Thread 715317204

Remember when fighting games were good?

>>715317204 (OP)
nope

From the 90s until the mid 2000s

>>715317261
FPBP
I love my father and am white

tohsaka so cute

>>715317204 (OP)
I want to smell it

>>715317204 (OP)
Yes, 1991, 2001, 2008, 2014, and 2018

>>715317204 (OP)
Sex with Miyako. I would do her, right now.

>>715317204 (OP)
why would anyone make this face while kicking

>>715317204 (OP)
Every time a skinny bitch raises her leg, my nose demands to be near.

>>715317204 (OP)
My cock would barely fit.

>>715317495
手はどこ?

>>715317204 (OP)
The best fighting games was, is, and remains AH3.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Xe4z0qn-ZI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8lv7T-rM1To
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hL7qgCHIrlc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xJN4tQVeYk

>>715319514
Factually correct. AH3 is actually too good and the fgc is too used to slop to actually appreciate it properly.

>>715319864
>>715319514
Cool now play the game together

>>715320168
I've got a room up right now

>>715317204 (OP)
the only good part of that horrible game

>>715317204 (OP)
Imagine thinking XD was good.

>>715318657
11 year olds actually stretch properly, their sexual development is mostly complete. Your cock would fit in nicely since she lubricates properly and will probably orgasm before you do.

>>715320168
I would play. Genuinely. But it's 5:30 in my timezone and I haven't slept. I'm about to pass out.

>>715317204 (OP)
If I like UNI should I play Melty?

>>715321231
they're very different games.
only similarities are strong system mechanics and 2As being stupidly rewarding.
it's free though so try it anyways

>>715317204 (OP)
type lumina IS good.

sex with Miyako

>>715317826
because is funny XD

>>715317204 (OP)
There will come a day when they are once again good.

>load up sf4
>easy to find people to play
>opponent mashes so hard the game lags and my combo drops

>load up sf5
>can't find a single soul

>load up sf6
>characters zooming more than half of the screen
>my character freezes and I can't do anything
>replay that 5x while my opponent is running away to recover his bar

I hate it here

>>715317764
Yes I want to smell her feet as well

>>715317204 (OP)
Some modern fighters are fun.

>>715317204 (OP)
FUCK UNDERAGED GIRLS
YES YES YES

Play Mai

>>715323394
>posts the one that's not fun

>>715324456
Only one that could be more fun than granblue is uni2 and that's debatable on if you'd consider it modern or not

>>715324641
I honestly don’t understand how anyone can have any longtime background playing fighters and find Granblue fun for more than two seconds(when a new character drops). I can’t honestly think of more fighting games more boring than this shit.

>>715324456
Works on my machine.

>>715325234
Strive and SF6, Tekken has been a thing for a while.

>>715320794
thanks, epstein

>>715317204 (OP)
Why didn't french bread gave Lumina crossplay?

>>715317204 (OP)
>type lumina
>nasu slop in general
Lol lmao

>>715319514
You have said the actual truth

>>715317204 (OP)
No and fgc fags hate every other fighting game except for one that they swear up and down that it is actually good but is literally the exact same as the others. No one wants to go through the humiliation ritual of losing 24/7 for 10k hours straight until the magically become slightly above average ranking.

So anyway I just bought a leverless controller and while I find doing inputs and using buttons pretty easy after some time movement feels really fucking weird. I'm too used to dpad.
Also I tried different games and while most felt fine to great on leverless Granblue felt fucking terrible on it.

>>715326834
Retard

>>715317204 (OP)
no
I do miss the simple days of t-m though

Thoughts on Yuri?
She was very fun in CvS 2

>>715327498
seethe

>>715317204 (OP)
>shorts instead of panties
Pic unrelated, right?

>>715325459
Strive and SF6 are way better than Grub though, unless you like every character doing the exact same combos

>>715328467
Strive and Sf6 have dull aesthetic and nothing fun in them. Granblue is at least faithful to Granblue.

>>715326834
It’s one of the two non-slop multiplayer genres. If you don’t like them I hope you like RTS or else you’re a slop eater.

>>715317204 (OP)
I liked Fighting Climax Ignition

>>715328535
>Granblue is at least faithful to Granblue.
So it’s a boring gacha game?

>>715317261
fpbp

burunya~~

Yeah 5 minutes ago was pretty sick.

>>715317204 (OP)
I don't know who needs to hear this
fighting games were never good
they are the equivalent of minigames from side scroller beatemups

>>715329106
I remember when racing games were good.

>>715329106
sorry you suck lol

Still pissed that devs censored skullgirls.

>>715319514
unblock me amlux

>>715317204 (OP)
What is this pose called?

Why do people bitch about the FGC supposedly being overrun with zoomers when every tournament and event is 95% 30 and 40 something year olds like pic-related?

>>715328197
CVS2 is one of her least fun games. What does she even have other than her fireball? Most of her specials don't seem to work as intended and I don't remember her having any particularly good buttons.

Now 2k2UM? THAT game has a fun Yuri. SUMAAAAASHU

>>715328568
Wait a minute, that's just Taiga and Misaka.

>>715317204 (OP)
MBTL was ass
>>715329335
Because these people don't play fighting games, much less actually attend tournaments.

>>715328636
A good aesthetic. Better than what you’d get out of strive or sf6.

>>715329545
Don't be ridiculous they have the same colors and hair lengths, it's absolutely Rin and Satsuki

>>715328546
RTS atleast has a decent single-player aspect, fighting games do not.
>It’s one of the two non-slop multiplayer genres.
That's not a high bar and you know it, besides that is becoming less and less true, soon it'll only be rts

>>715329335
guilty gear strive/all of smash is full of zoomers and troons. anything that requires real skill isn't filled to the brim with undesirables.

SF6 is good.

>>715329609
Okay? How does that not make it boring as shit to play because everyone does the same thing?

>>715319217
アナルの中に

>>715330073
This is a joke right? Fighters have been filled with stupid nogs for decades.

>>715330214
Is it?

>>715329332
The delish hebe spats extravaganza pose.

we've got a live one >>715329441

>>715317204 (OP)
Be honest

>>715332117
About what?

>>715330224
>because everyone does the same thing?
Everyone doesn't do the same thing.
Literally anyone who actually plays the game can tell you this.

>>715333420
>normal > special > normal > special > normal > special > normal > special/super
yawn

>>715334026
OK retard.

>>715334216
I accept your concession.

>>715317204 (OP)
Molty blood is a terrible game. You can go on fightcade and play all the fighting games that are actually decent. It's quite depressing, I generally try to champion new things by fighting games have been absolute trash for like 2 decades now.

>>715317204 (OP)
are those skechers?

>>715334356
They've never been good, the fightcade ones are just your biased nostalgia

do people still play xrd and +r?

>>715334356
>trash for like 2 decades now.
Most games made this decade are wonky as fuck, yes.
2010-2020 had some great games.
2000-2010 was probably the best time to be a fighting game fan though.

>>715334356
Actress Again is fun tho

>>715334726
+R yes, XRD not as much

>>715334909
There's nothing that can compare to Jojoban, MvC2, Alpha 2/3, VSP, kof 98, etc. Hell, I'd take karnovs revenge over pretty much anything made in the last 2 decades. Ground zero was inarguably melty blood, but blazblue is when the AIDS really started to spread. Those people took over EVO from Combo Breaker and fighting game culture as a whole in the West.

>>715334636
Fightcade games are so good that I genuinely feel like someone is ripping my heart out of my chest when I hear this
https://youtu.be/EMtWq2kA_nc
https://youtu.be/WmWWv865-tw
https://youtu.be/My9oCdmm4BI
I guess it really is nostalgia, the real kind that's painful and has a sense of loss, not just wallowing in arrested development.

>>715335835
Its 100% nostalgia. All of those games are fucked up in different ways that would get them fucking *roasted* today.
Its just that they're old and they get a pass from everyone.

>>715335835
yes the music is good but you are fucked if you think hftf is good, especially with jotaro, ice, kak and petshop crawling around

>>715334726
well going by the casual>hardcore>casual gaming cycle, it's going to be a long time till arc makes another proper guilty gear so +R and xrd are gonna stay relevant for a long while

>>715335983
>All of those games are fucked up in different ways
Yeah, that's why they're fun. Fighting games are about a fun meta of characters that excel at everything that makes the game fun, not having a patch every other month to arbitrarily shake up the meta until the next game at which point its completely aborted and forgotten by everyone. This is why people like MvC2, because the top tiers are fun to play. Sentinel is the ultimate fighting game character and it feels really good to control characters like that well. New fighting games don't have characters that feel unique and special to control, at best they have gimmicks that set them apart but still just feel like bland functions.
>>715335997
>petshop
Not really "allowed" on fightcade. I played Chaka mostly and I could handle every character just fine except vanilla ice, which was really tough when it was a good player. I used to go into the lobby once in a blue moon and people would think I was sharking just because 90% of the lobby was fucking retarded.

>>715319514
Homing Dash is the coolest shit ever and more games need to use it.

>>715336303
Boy I sure can't wait to fight nothing but Chun and Yun today!
Old games deserve more shit. They're all fucking kusoges that are miserable to play online unless you're a tier-whore.

>>715336494
>Boy I sure can't wait to fight nothing but Chun and Yun today!
3S sucks shit dude, did you see me include it? Not my fault you chose shitty ass 3S to play.

>>715317204 (OP)
Mbtl is the 1st 2d game I ever played and I still think it's mediocre shit at best.
>>715328535
>>715329609
Each GG looks completely different with Xrd looking like shit compared to both +R and strive and if strive had a dull aesthetic it would've actually had the same turnout as granblue when it comes to players and a playerbase. Actually even then it still would've done better with it's music attracting more people, character designs attracting more people, giving all the people who loved watching but never playing GG or making excuses not to play GG a game they could actually pick up and enjoy due to it's Tekken tier skill floor, and due to it STILL not being as sleep inducing as granblue a.k.a the striver retirement home.

>>715335102
why does xrd make certain posters so angry?

>>715336563
All of those games have fucked up top tiers lmao. MvC2 is actually a complete joke when played at anything beyond scrub level.

banning characters is essentially the same as dodging them unless you are in a tourney, but at that point its an instant loss

>>715336776
>MvC2 is actually a complete joke when played at anything beyond scrub level.
MvC2 has the greatest team variety of any tag game. Here's 19 different teams that saw competitive play.

Yes, I played Pokken a few days ago

>>715336578
Its the third worst Guilty Gear game. Only Isuka and Overture are worse.

>>715336578
It's a mediocre middle of the road game that has both the worst overall newcomers and worst RC system. Also don't the way it looks.

Does anyone want to play SoulCalibur?

>>715336303
>Yeah, that's why they're fun
No, they're fucked up in the same ways as the new ones, you're just a nostalgia fgc fag

>>715317204 (OP)
CUNNEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEYYYYYYYY

>>715337505
>in the same ways as the new ones
I don't think I can learn mvc2 in less than 24 hours.

>tfw the creator of tranny gear killed the genre and is now retiring
pure evil

>>715337757
Strive is the gift that keeps on giving. So much seething and coping for literal years

>>715337625
>B-but you need a college course to play mvc2

>>715337791
well only literal cultists still play strive

>>715337757
>>715337846
He isn't retiring and also have you actually seen the way retards act in the anime fighter community as a whole? Especially the way some acted about Xrd? Calling that shit god's gift, acting like daisuke was Jesus despite so many not even fucking play it, and editing him onto pictures of Jesus.

>>715337840
Why shouldn't fighting games be hard to learn? I want fighting games where someone does some crazy shit and you think to yourself
>man that was cool as shit, I wanna do that
Nobody has ever felt that way about a modern fighting game. Devs tried to make them simpler to make them more accessible to normalfags, but normalfags just want to do cool shit anyways. So now you just got a handful of people hanging out in discord playing these casual "hang out" games and no one gives a shit about them cuz they're boring.

>>715337757
Also how could he kill the genre if literally no one is taking anything from strive and there are a bunch of new games being announced and still made.

>>715338007
well does not matter
tranny gear strive literally killed the entire genre as a whole
rest in shit

>>715337757
clever
no one will bother him about going back

>retards here believe in 2026
>marvel watching zoomers are going to take the time to learn inputs on a DOA tag fighter
AHAHAHAHAHAHA
WAAAAAAAAAH

That's right. There isn't going to be a 2026. The world will end come 23:59 on December 31th.

>>715338302
But anon arcsys got zoomers to play and learn dbfz and strive solely because of how they look plus tokon is gonna be a game where you can just control one character the entire match and never have to do any character switching.

>>715338008
>Why shouldn't fighting games be hard to learn? I want fighting games where someone does some crazy shit and you think to yourself
>>man that was cool as shit, I wanna do that
The cool shit should be actually fun to learn, there's no organic way to learn any of it by playing the game normally (pvp)

Smash already solved so many issues with fighting games and casual audience
I dont know why devs want to continue to dumb shit down

>>715338652
GOD I WISH
This life without a bird gf is excruciatingly painful.

>>715337846
>well only literal cultists still play strive
Nah that would be burn out +R fags

>>715339162
>Smash already solved so many issues
no, it didnt

>small XD girl thats unusually strong for her size
why is this so common?

>>715338008
>d no one gives a shit about them cuz they're boring.
Way more people are playing modern games than old ones. You got replaced.

>>715339404
Holy kek

>>715338302
>a-arcsys is gonna collapse any day now!
you will keep losing

>>715339432
>way more """people""" are playing modern """games""" than old ones
Fixed your post buddy, no need to thank me.

>>715339498
>Fixed your post buddy, no need to thank me.
lol seethe, I'm sure you have lots of fun with the thirdies on fightcade though

>>715339431
japans national sickness, paedophilia

>>715339492
see you in 2026
if that black swan event does not happen this year

>>715317204 (OP)
so much fum!!!

>>715317204 (OP)
No, unless you mean the porn that is.
Now that's good.
https://gofile.io/d/V8sENH

>>715339028
>organic way to learn
The only way to learn counterstrike is to buckle down and study, do targeted practice, and yprac maps. When you learn chess, go, or shogi, it's all studying. There is no competitive game you organically learn. Not even smash. MvC2 already had autochains for normal tards.

>>715340019
>two touched
just like strive then

Why yes I remember today, what do you want to know about?

>>715317204 (OP)
Why is she so enthusiastically showing her cameltoe to us?

>>715340047
Hot, got any more?

>>715339886
yawn

>>715340616
?

>>715340635
you retards have been predicting the collapse of everything for a decade+ now. Its boring.

>>715339028
learning through failure is organic learning.'

suppress your ego and ascend or live like dsp and suffer.

or just play a different game that is ok too.

>>715340667
well rich people are building under ground bases in places all over the world
and even training to use guns
i wonder what could the event be

>>715340751
meds

>>715339527
>fightcade
>zoomie literally incapable of even imagining offline play with actual humans next to him
No surprises here I guess.

>>715340597
Check the link again

Most games in general are trash. Just explore and you will find the good ones

>>715341214
Don’t really care what you boomers do in your gay little circlejerk

>>715342260
Your asshurt reply very clearly says otherwise.

>>715340078
I am thankful for horses.
Horses basically fund Cygames, so the horse game being successful increases the chances of Granblue getting a season 3

>niche anime game with short combos becomes top 3
>devs make doa tag fighters instead

>>715343583
A generation of fighting games developers got brainwashed by BBTAG, think about it

>>715317204 (OP)
Yes, the last good fighting game was Blazblue.

>>715340019
Doing infinites in melty is tournament legal btw

I will punch the first STRIVER I come across...

Anyone wanna play some KING OF FIGHTERS
>>715329335
You've never been to a major.
>>715341214
It breaks my heart how many people refuse to even check out their local. If your local sucks that's fair but at least give it a try
>>715341982
Neat game but I found it kinda clunky
>>715342260
Of the three locals I attend regularly only one is more than a third 09ers
Most offline players I know are 16ers and Strive kids

>>715324387
made for BWC

>>715324387
Mai has never had an interesting kit in any fighting game she's ever been playable in

>>715345568
I'd play but Chris with boobs is gay

>>715345831
Which KOF

>>715317204 (OP)
blame arc system works for it, all the slop started to come when they took control of every anime I.P and all shit played the same (only the first guilty gear was good, all the sequels are tryhard and/or edgy slop)

>>715317204 (OP)
She kicks high

>>715319514
>>715319864
>>715326280
>>715336442

How do I get into and learn AH3, and does the specific version matter between SIXSTARS EXTEND and base LOVE MAX? Or are we literally talking about base AH3

Play Soulcalibur.
steam://joinlobby/544750/109775241959000239/76561199021052341

>>715346576
you read the wiki and absorb the knowledge and you are EVO ready
also get the XTEND version

>>715346830
Already have EXTEND from a couple years back. There's so much to learn in the this, even from simply picking characters with the many different arcana choices on top of learning the characters. I assume it's a Mizuumi wiki.

>>715346952
you pick this girl and press this button and dumpster everyone
>w-what arcana???
her default one is fine just like any othe character

>>715343583
>niche anime game with short combos becomes top 3
who?

>>715346952
Yeah, it's the mizuumi wiki. https://wiki.gbl.gg/w/Arcana_Heart_3/AH3X
Some pages are incomplete but the pages for the older version of the game are usually fine.

>There's so much to learn in the this, even from simply picking characters with the many different arcana choices on top of learning the characters.
If you don't know what arcana to use, pick love or maybe flower if you like to burst a lot.

>>715337757
Why did Daisuke do it?

>>715347620
my paizuri (and naizuri) slaves

>>715346576
For Mizuumi, the XTEND wiki is bare, but the vanilla AH3 and SIX STARS wikis have decent info. Even then, not much. For writeups about the game's fundamentals, read these:
https://arcanapost.wixsite.com/arcana
https://frostsrants.wordpress.com/category/arcana-heart/
Ultimately, the best way to learn AH3 is by actually playing it. If you don't have friends to play it with, there are two main Discord servers to beg in. There is a larger one for appearances, but the smaller one ran by Frosty is more active.
As for versions, XTEND is the version everyone (lol) is on because it has three extra characters and two more Arcanas. XTEND used to be SIX STARS, but the game was updated to XTEND with zero means of reversion, which sucks because XTEND added quite a bit of MUGEN shit. Dark Heart in particular is extremely derp, and she's Top 1 by a considerable margin. LOVE MAX is only worth playing casually because the Story Mode has a different final boss and you get a cool artbook, but as for fundamentals, it isn't too different.

>>715347129
This and throw out random Excaliburs

>>715347684
>GG disappears for years
>Comes back with Xrd attempting to capture the modern audience with a new visual style and an attempt at capturing old GG gameplay
>Not as successful as their sister series made to replace the hole they left
>New game comes out, another attempt to capture heights in visual fidelity
>Now we recreate everything from the ground up and focus entirely on a new audience instead
>Even alter characters stories to create mass appeal to western ideologies

Now GG has the popular audience, with mass marketing by also killing other direct competitors, such as their own sister series and we can never go back to old GG

Fuck. There used to be a really cool website that listed all the arcanas in a right side column on the site, that detailed the stats ups/downs they gave you, as well as any additional special effects the arcanas may or may not have.
It was really good because the actual game only tells you half of it for some reason. But now I can't find it.

>>715347129
The magnet arcana is really fun with Fiona imo.
Your attacks have got a lot of swing to them, so magnetism can really put your opponents into tight spots.

>>715319514
I really like how your special meter replenishes quickly, encourages you to use it. But if you don't use it, you can raise the ceiling of your meter, allowing you to benefit even more from how it quickly replenishes.

PYROKINESIS

Learning SF and one thing that nobody mentions that I kinda hate about this game is the amount of input buffering you have to do every fucking micro second. Maybe I should switch to charge (similar problem though lmfao just I don't keep doing dp inputs over and over in neutral). and jesus hell I need to get better at anti-airing. they always seem to jump over me at like such an awkward range my ryu can't freaking touch them with his stubby ass cHP and again I hate having to buffer the DP then slow reactions make me miss out on the punish or even worse when I miss the DP (undershoot the range/overshoot the range)

>>715349371
If you're buffering DPs in neutral just to deal with jumps then you're too slow, you should not need to pre-buffer in neutral for anything besides extreme reaction checks like beating fireballs with super

Will I be shamed here but I currently like fighting games now. (tbf my favorite fighting game was P4AU and DBFZ)
>easier execution but still there if you want to hit a higher skill ceiling
>actually force people to play aggressively instead of poking and pussying out
>character balance for most games are actually pretty solid. most tier lists just feel like content creators following the trends and retardposting instead of actual deep analysis.
My biggest problem with the genre right now is the community. Everyone even in game is kinda a douchebag and nobody wants to have good sets. It's just everyone screeching about game balance and direction and constantly DOOMposting over and over and over again. I think it's just boomers/gen x are burnt out of the genre and zoomies are the most obnoxious cunt generation less that fighting games are getting "worse". That being said I think we need one more popular "anime-styled" fighter that replicates the late 2010 era. Feels like every fighting game did get street fighterfied and it's more about short combos and neutral which makes a lot of games insanely poke heavy which can get annoying.

>>715349592
slow as in my reactions are too slow? ugh i just need to figure out how to handle street fighters who are in the dumb range. there's like a certain range people can get into me and I just have to eat free pressure even if I call them out on the option. well tbf I just need to learn the counters. it seems like if they jump a little before mDK range or close range i can't freaking punish

>>715349695
>>actually force people to play aggressively instead of poking and pussying out
That part of the game that you think is "poking and pussying out" is the actual fighting game part that you never learned to play. Modern fighting game design lets everybody shortcut to simplified gambling where they can scam wins off a coinflip, character balance feels "solid" because they can all flip a coin

>>715349882
footsies is fun but just playing really defensive tag isn't. btw i might have sounded hypocrite in my next sentence but i meant more games now a days are very offensive poke heavy and not defensive aka you're more inclined to go on the offense rather than sit back. defensive play is just lame sorry

>>715349814
>slow as in my reactions are too slow?
Sounds more like your inputs are too slow. You may need to be mentally prepared for a jump but you should never need to be pre-buffering a DP just to AA DP. Dealing with jumps at different ranges can be a question of using different AA options or moving your character / crosscutting as needed, but you'll know where the other player is before they jump so you should be able to visualise the angle of the jump in advance. If people are jumping and then you're being caught off guard by the jump arc at the last moment then you're not familiar enough with the other player's jump arc, because it's not like you have air control in SF

>>715349695
>tbf my favorite fighting game was P4AU and DBFZ
of course you enjoy modern rushdown sloppa then

>>715350179
yeah that's the point of my post. o_o

Didn't fighting game community crucify the guy that made online play possible?

My main fighter right now is KOF XV and its legit driving me mental. Fucking self harming just to play a fighting game where I can get matches without using discord.

>>715350338
>ucking self harming just to play a fighting game where I can get matches without using discord.
didnt snk fixed kof15 matchmaking or something

>>715349972
>i meant more games now a days are very offensive poke heavy and not defensive aka you're more inclined to go on the offense rather than sit back
The core tenets of Modern Fighting Game Design (derogatory) are:
>Universal mechanic that allows players to go from neutral straight into point blank advantage, which has no direct counter that isn't itself a guess
>Point blank guessing situations which loop into themselves and/or skip directly into the corner
>Lack of neutral resets even on correct defensive decisions so that players either go from offensive win into looping Oki or from correct defensive choice into situation reversal into oki
>Hail Mary gambling button that can randomly reverse the whole game

These are barely fighting games anymore, they're just nested Rock Paper Scissors that leads to more Rock Paper Scissors

>>715350468
Yes but the game is shit

>>715347915
This is just the inevitable fate of any long-running series that survives long enough to become marketable to normies. Xrd was the last gasp of the OG spirit, with a new coat of paint but the same soul underneath. Strive is Guilty Gear lobotomized for easy digestion - smoothed out, declawed, and repackaged to chart on Twitter hashtags. The irony is they *did* succeed in making it more popular, but now it’s indistinguishable from everything it once stood against. Characters aren’t even characters anymore, they’re TikTok archetypes filtered through localization teams that want everything to read like a Netflix original. There’s a reason old heads cling to AC+R like it’s a life raft. We might’ve asked for rollback, but not like this.

how do i force roman cum

anyone up for some aacc

>>715351263
able and willing

>>715323394
I'm having a decent time with grubble. I still get matches but I don't know how long they can keep it up. It's getting hard to get my B rank character up to higher ranks when I sometimes have to wait like 4 minutes for a match. I hear everyone's at S now so that might be why.

>>715317204 (OP)
>LE BAJIQUAN IS THE STRONGEST AND THE ONLY CHINA'S MARTIAL ARTS

>>715317204 (OP)
>were
They still are.

>>715351382
https://invite.meltyblood.club/3093

>>715351547
ENTER

>>715317204 (OP)
Is there any hymen left if you stretch it like that?

>>715334726
+R and Xrd still have players. Not as much as Blazblue probably because Guilty Gear has three games that people pick from but I can always play +R whenever I get on. I don’t play as much Xrd but I have seen lobbies open the few times I have played it.

>>715330768

KEK

>>715350338
You posted that yesterday

>>715354215
I wish CvS2 had the presentation and aesthetics of the first CvS.

>>715328197
I wish she would sit on my face

New fighting games almost never have good character designs. It’s really a shame, I might have played Strive if it had Delilah playable.

I wish fighting games were still based.

>>715355021
alll the girls in pic are over 500 year old

>>715355021
What the fuck were they thinking with that one on the top right lmao

>>715356101
"sex"

>>715356101
Nasu gave us compensation for Len not being in the remake so far. DA Noel made certain groups of people in the fgc a little upset, which Len will probably do again if they look at her vn.

>>715356101
I read the Tsukihime wiki about that character and it said something like "she looks 14 when she becomes a vampire because that's the age when she was the happiest in her life."

>>715356239
erm, i dont get it, what is this whack ass chinese humor joke!?!??

>>715356702
You should see his super

>>715355901
they matured from icky fanservice

>>715340078
>When you learn chess, go, or shogi, it's all studying
objectively false, you have to play to learn how an opponents thinks and learn strategy. you can't just look up how to win in whatever unique position you're in you have to learn that by playing.
>There is no competitive game you organically learn. Not even smash
again objectively false, you can even actually learn rts games because when you find out about control groups you can unironically learn and intuit core strategies in the game whereas almost every facet of a fighting game is meant to as complicated as possible so it's impossible to organically learn without misunderstanding some things or never fully knowing how many things work. Even most rts games let you record and watch replays of your matches which let you watch what things your opponent did which can tell you many important facets of the game to learn whereas fighting games can't even do this well.

>>715358656
I don’t get why you think those are any better in that regard than fighting games. You have to have experience playing to know how to win. Chess doesn’t even have neutral to add to that. Fighting games have replays too and you can take over replays to see what you could’ve done differently.

>>715340745
>learning through failure is organic learning.'
you can't even learn decent bnbs due to how complicated whatever combo system most fighting games have you always gotta google a fighting games wiki to get basic tools under your belt.
>suppress your ego and ascend or live like dsp and suffer
It's not an ego thing, needing to give up and grind 10k hours just to start to get into one specific fighting game to maybe, potentially... start to have fun. It isn't worth it.

>>715358921
Combo systems are incredibly difficult and complicated. Especially in older games you have to spend at least 500 hours to get basic bnbs down.

>>715358902
>You have to have experience playing to know how to win
You can actually get experience by playing the game meanwhile fighting games require a college course to then potentially start getting experience
>Chess doesn’t even have neutral to add to that
What retarded take is this? It's a game of strategy you could loose more pieces then the opponent has and still win in the end. Neutral in a fighting game is trying to tag the opponent first to take away 50 to 80% of the opponents life and go back to neutral or a more favorable position for yourself and tag them again for another combo you had to spend 5k hours learning and practicing in training mode to do to win.
>Fighting games have replays too and you can take over replays to see what you could’ve done differently.
There's hardly anything to learn besides just
"Oh my combos just aren't good enough i need to train another 10k hours in training" or "I didn't lab for 10k hours for the specific scenario"
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>>715359456
If you don't know the rules of chess you can't learn it just by playing. You could learn fighting games by just playing easier than you could chess. Use replays to see what move would've won against whatever the opponent did. Chess is turn based instead of actively interacting with your opponent, you don't need to approach your opponent to move a chess piece, you just do it. That's the thing about chess and rts games, they're just unplayable before you've spent like five years on them playing nothing else. Fighting games aren't like that.

>>715359113
Play SoulCalibur instead, I think the only character who has half circles in his combos is Kilik.

>>715359113
that bnb most likely only does 5% meanwhile any opponent past complete newbie most likely at least labbed for 1000 hours for a combo that does 50%

should I look over my replays today

>>715359113
I can do that sol BnB rn

>>715358656
>objectively false, you have to play to learn how an opponents thinks and learn strategy. you can't just look up how to win in whatever unique position you're in you have to learn that by playing.
You can, you can ask an online bot what the best move in your exact situation is and get world champion tier advice. It's a really easy way to cheat in online chess games

>>715359942
This combo does just under a fourth of most character's HP, and by adding a single 4D input at the end tacks on another 50 or so damage for a mere 25 meter

>>715359942
It does just under 1/4th of Ky's health bar ignoring guts scaling and you can add more damage by doing tyrant rave after fafnir for 25 meter. It'd be better to have a stronger combo but at a very basic level, you can get by with a combo like that.

I know capcom isn't doing so well in these games but what about a turn based Fire Emblem multiplayer fighting game https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtGmFFbc2-k

>>715359764
>Chess is turn based
completely btfos your previous claims
>If you don't know the rules of chess you can't learn it just by playing. You could learn fighting games by just playing easier than you could chess.
All you need to do in chess is see what would've been more optimal or smarter choices meanwhile fighting games require you to lab atleast 1k hours on some niche mechanic
>>715360195
just because it's "easy to cheat" doesn't make chesses fault that you're being a faggot. If you cared you wouldn't be cheating and just wanted to have fun
>>715360293
>>715360417
just means that the dmg in strive is more bloated and you can loose a match against someone in under 3 combos. the opponent who had 5 mistakes worth of leniency is 10x more likely to win against someone who only has 2 mistakes of leniency

>>715359764
>That's the thing about chess and rts games, they're just unplayable before you've spent like five years on them playing nothing else. Fighting games aren't like that.
Which is why every new fighting game (that isn't street fighter or mk) player base drops lower than a thousand 2 months after release...

>>715360898
>strive
Sorry sis you got the wrong game. Die, emaciated freak!

>>715360898
>Strive
Blud, we all play AC+R here..

>>715361396
>we all play AC+R here
>we all play
>play
hahahahah lmao

we all play missing link here actually

>>715361232
>>715361396
sorry i don't recognize a fighting game by its autistic buttons. i ddin't spend 20 years in academics of guilty queer

>>715361396
>>715361564
This is an Isuka board, get the fuck out, plebs.

>>715361597
But you ddid spend 20 years being The Raped, by the sound of it.

>>715361737
Now's not the time to project your trauma at quilty queer academy...

>>715361737
using that word is toxic
there's no shame in losing

>>715361839
I’m sorry if I brought back some of your bad memories

>>715361892
The Raped is a state of mind. There is no shame in losing, no matter how bad you lose, but being a coward and living in fear of defeat is shameful.

>>715361597
Why are you even here?

>>715361597
>sorry i don't recognize a fighting game by its autistic buttons.
whats a real fighting for you then..?

>>715317204 (OP)
I'm playing OG melty right now for the story. Sion a cute

>>715361912
you're the one recalling your time that you got raped for 20 years >>715361839
>>715362427
>>715362530
>you have to know every fighting game by heart to be allowed to post on 4channels.org

>>715362795
I can just tell you got destroyed and instead of trying to improve you went back to Fortnite while seething about fighting games for all eternity. You wear it on your face, it’s too obvious.

>>715362893
sorry you got raped for 20 years anon

i like getting raped

>>715363139
I’m sorry that happened to you.

>>715363283
I didn't go to guilty queer academy though?

>>715362008
So is that why lowtiergod constantly plays fighting games? so he isn't "defeated"? Just take one look at him when he's playing them

>>715355901
>>715358652
>icky fanservice
>tekken and streetfighter coooom
?????

>>715363815
It’s his job pretty much. Continuing to play them automatically puts him above the retard whining in this thread.

>>715317204 (OP)
Post more Miyako please

>>715363187
Wanna be friends?

>>715364510
I want to make her squeal in delight

>>715364237
>Continuing to play them automatically puts him above the retard whining in this thread.
He's clearly more retarded then you since he put himself in a position where he has to play them despite not liking it. Why would i want to spend everyday getting raped

>>715364819
You’re supposed to enjoy getting better. He mostly only plays new games but that’s still better than someone afraid of playing anything.

>>715349695
I like Persona and I hate what things are like now, but more because they keep making sure you can't have fun.
>This character had unintended cool stuff? We're taking it out! Only intended mechanics should stay.
>Fast, high octane matches? No, you can't have actual anime fighters, but you can have retard damage that's easy to access so games end fast anyways, that's the same thing right?
>Balance? Yeah, we balanced the characters by making them less unique, that's good enough for us.

>>715365215
>we balanced the characters by making them less unique, that's good enough for us.
SF6 bros don't look....

Melee was dank until tourneyfags ruined it
I still mog without wavedashing, dashdancing, ledge guarding and spamming cause I use smash moves to build damage and meteor smashes to KO

>>715364920
Most fgc fags themselves can't stand the current state of fighting games, and all the old ones are also horrendous and filled with 99.9% of players with 10k minimum, either way it's shit.

What is better than combos? TAS combos

>>715366162
literaly cheating

still practicing out in training mode, but AC3 is really fun even learning. There's so much hidden stuff to learn because it's not as documented. Weiss is pretty fun and cute too

>>715365879
Most of them are playing the games they like. Even new ones that I dislike have people who like them and play them. I’m fine with the state of fighting games because you can play the best old ones whenever you want. There’s really no valid argument against now being the best fighting games as a genre have ever been. And there’s no other pvp genre that’s better so unless you prefer singleplayer I dunno what you want.

>>715366604
She's autistic

>>715351630
ggs.
fuck I wish kohamech 5C broom spin wasn't an autofollowup. without broom poke it she really lacks a good button between 2A and 2C range.
also with caoko you should save rain for when you're close to the ground.

>>715366434
you don't bow down to ai or computers do you anon

>>715366604
I'll play some AH3 if anons make sure not to skip the intros and are in NA.

not a single mention of cotw
i wonder why?

>>715367125
Potemkin meterless bnb in strive be like

>>715367259
Boring shit game

>>715367185
I'm too green and also EU sorry

>>715367185
Why don’t the devs just disable the ability to skip intros online

>>715367429
Cyclone Zero have no idea what they're doing.

>>715367392
but why? the snkfags in their general are decrying other games as "playing themselves for you and holding your hand 24/7" and that's why you guys play them instead of cotw, the apparently most technical modern fighter that's too hard for you casual slopdrinkers (so they want to say of you)

>>715317495
This post annihilates the FGC

>>715367398
I have that game and I'm eupoor too
Play me

>>715367059
hey man ggs
so that broom spin wasn't intentional? lol no wonder, it definitely won me some games
thanks for the aoko tip but I think I'm about to drop her, she's really cool but...
her confirms are way more difficult that satsuki and the whole zoner thing doesn't seem to work against any character with a good long range projectile like shiki (there's so many shikis jesus christ) or even your kohamech, and she has no good anti-air they all sucks so much, then there's the dp back motion for her best orbs, and they are negative edge, it's too much xD
but anyway, GODtsuki still bitching strong

>>715367546
The answer is
any game ≠ my game = bad game

>>715367681
maybe in a bit, I said I'm still learning but also I have to go eat.

>>715367546
Playing snk games is like being proud of learning how to ride bicycle backwards without a seat

>>715367259
I don't see the point speaking about it here when its just met with shitposting.

>>715369237
People booed at the 1 million dollar cotw tournament yesterday nobody likes your shit unnecessary game

>>715369541
do not post this again once tokon is released. MaxD00D is like the asmongold of fighting games and will bring in lots of new people into the genre. His skill and knowledge cannot be questioned or the fgc cabal will send its assassins to you

do people usually play +R on steam? is it hard? t.xrd babby

>>715369926
Yes you need to lab billion frcerinos before hitting online unlike your fireball into yrc sloppa

>>715367684
>so that broom spin wasn't intentional?
no and half the time it happens cuz I fuck up the command grab (really wish aacc had +R's input parser). worst of all the cancel timing on it is weird
>any character with a good long range projectile
not being able to set orbs weakens her keepaway but honestly the mobility and rain still make her a pain to approach. From what others say, her main weakness is when she has to get in herself.
>she has no good anti-air
negative edge orb, IABD jB and IABD rain. 623A has big disjoint and 4f startup. and of course when you've got orbs set, approaching from the air becomes scary.
though you gotta remember that melty is a grasshopper game. good anti airs are a privilege, not the default.
>GODtsuki still bitching strong
I really think I'm missing something in the MU cuz monorisuto makes it seem way easier https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m52RGuoggjs&t=6947s
It's probably the jetpacks. I need to jetpack harder

>>715369926
who do you want to play

>>715369926
If you can play Xrd you can play +R fine. The biggest change is probably the lack of an input buffer which makes it executionally harder and can take some getting used to.

>>715370198
probably dizzy or slayer
also what the FUCK

>>715370418
Arcsissies this is your mindset

>>715370418
Mizuumi chads win again

>>715317204 (OP)
>type moon shit good
LMAO

>>715370418
both strong characters

>>715371020
>20 seconds intro
JFC

>>715371643
she farted

what happened to doujin or amateur fighting games?

>>715372032
they are somewhere hidden

>>715369541
i never liked max but this webm always gave me confirmation bias

>>715354617
Having proper 2D backgrounds with that high of fidelity really makes it look leagues better than the 2.5D they pulled in CvS2. I was also bummed 2 ditched the stages being themed after the characters and just went for generic world locales.

>>715372032
https://x.com/gurizuri_bu/status/1941466546355962069
They're still being made. Fighting games will never die.

>>715372032
Stuck in arcades like the 4th revamp of AKB and Daemon Bride.

>>715373318
me on the top right in the background

>>715373318
Me on the bottom right

>>715371020
I miss the SOVL of OG GG

>>715369541
this moment is the reason why xrd doesn't have 200+ daily players

>>715374039
slayer or venom werent in og gg though

>>715319514
>actually playing Arcana Shart instead of just fapping to the girls
lol. lmao.

>>715374109
High skill floor?

>>715374219
lack of shilling. there's a reason why the biggest fgc content creators never play online on stream. they'll get their ass kicked, and make the game look bad.

>>715372032
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1742020/Idol_Showdown/
Here's your amateur fighting game, sir

>>715374690
That's actually a pretty good one for being completely free.

I’m sure this is an overused question but which game should I play to learn fighting games? Besides SF6 because I don’t like its aesthetic

>>715375245
Just play whatever game you think looks cool, just know that some games are easier than others and finding players at your skill level might be more difficult in certain games.

>>715375245
Dragon Ball FighterZ PC NA EC Lobby 37.

>>715375354
fuck this guy lets play some dragon balls

>>715375245
Guilty Gear Strive or Granblue

>>715336442
Learn darkstalkers

>>715375245
There's no definitive answer. It would be easier to ask "Which [game series] entry should I play?".

>>715375569
>>715375478
>>715375434
DBFZ
>>715375381
I agree with this guy

>>715329172
Same. It fills me with a seething rage. Skullgirls was my first fighting game. (Other than street fighter)

>>715375245
karnovs revenge

>>715320794
>Israeli IP

>>715329172
How hard is HFTF? I know that wakeup reversals are impossible, but I see it as a way to break from bad habits in other games.

>>715319514
My right ear enjoyed from the second video.

>>715317204 (OP)
>Remember when fighting games were good?
spam leg sweep

>>715369926
It’s “harder” but it gets exaggerated. The hardest part is that most characters have to adjust their combos slightly based on their opponent’s character’s hurtbox or weight, but most of the time that only means you need to have 2 or 3 slightly different versions of a combo, which is easy to remember after you play a bit. FRCs are not that hard, if you practice them you’ll be able to do them consistently, and you don’t need them early on. In terms of neutral or knowledge checks it might have a few more confusing things than xrd, mostly moves or characters that didn’t get into xrd, and you can use replay takeover to test out stuff against those. Everyone plays on Steam, when you open it you should go to “Quick Match”.

>>715336568
that's because it IS mediocre shit at best
its why it died almost 2 months after it came out and why AACC still lives

>>715340019
that guy dropped the infinite but Wara let go of the controller so he got hit on
this is what a perfect infinite looks like

>>715317204 (OP)
Yes. They're still fine but kinda boring and sort of samey. There's a similar lack of AA titles as there are in other genres, even though most fighting games are not AAA to begin with. It's just that I think the genre was the best and the most fun when everyone and their next-door neighbour was making janky fighting games.

Any modern fighting game worth playing?

That guy in those PCSX2 dumping threads who claims there's one "anti-PCSX2 schizo" obviously never tried practicing a fighting game on that thing. Frame limiter is a choppy input dropping piece of shit.

>>715377886
What are you looking for in them?

>>715378050
I don't know. Like DNF Duel or City of the Wolves.

>>715378283
then play those games lol

>>715376885
If it had a better roster it might be okay. Not having Len hit type lumina like a truck.

>>715320656
like the face she's making? the emoticon?
kid, XD is the pure essence of the SOVL shared by both america and japan in the 2000s, the BY-FAR best iteration of the internet, video games, anime/manga and all fans thereof. The SOVL you lack, and have never known. It's literally an icon of paradise lost. It's fine if you don't understand it, but if you sincerely think it's "bad" you are lost beyond all measure. Just reading such a statement drains my SOVL.

>>715317204 (OP)
pic unrelated

How difficult is it to learn Vampire Savior?

>>715379076
imposible

>>715379076
Plays Sasquatch or Felicia, you'll be fine. Combos are just chaining normals into a sweep, game is about movement and speed.

>>715377435
funniest thing is that the infinite has more utility as a blockstring rather than a combo.

>>715378624
lol no, no amount of chars matters when the gameplay is dry as fuck.

>>715374690
God, I hate what they did to this game. It's just not the same.

>>715376021
The actual combos themselves are usually "A, B, C, specialmove/custom combo/tandem combo." It's an exceedingly simple looking game to play. I wish i had the technical prowess to play old joeseph because Purple Hermit's kickass "get over here" move brings me life.

>>715379793
If it had Len it’d be the best modern fighting game, gameplay is a non issue when they all suck even worse. Having more of the proper roster would help keep players from the appeal to Tsukihime fans and older Melty blood fans.

>>715380060
I wish I could play Dio because his combos look fucking awesome and he has a bunch of cool stuff, but I'd probably have to take ten years of piano lessons to learn him.

I'm going to drink her pee directly from the source!

>>715360076
>pic
That's fucking horrifying...

>>715380106
this isn't Street Fighter, people won't play a shittier sequel when they can just stick to the old game.

>>715378624
>>715380106
>Not having Len hit type lumina like a truck.
Delusional
I'm glad Wara isn't in MBTL because he'd be dry as fuck to play.

>>715380606
I would agree if the old game had rollback on Steam. 90% of the players are in discords and having a discord for a game like melty blood is always going to make it impossible for people who actually like melty blood to play it there.
>>715380707
Len still gets more art than any of the new characters in the remake. Even if you don’t count her old art.

no passionlip no buy

>>715359113
>>715360076
See? You control the buttons you press!
Combos are the easiest part blud

>>715380937
you could've supported concerto.

>>715380937
>Len still gets more art than any of the new characters in the remake
Art and popularity doesn't necessarily mean people will actually fucking PLAY a fighting game.
Like if I said see me in AACC right now, you wouldn't right?

>>715380202
I can't do combos for shit, you can mostly get by with good fundies in HftF. For DIO as long as you have good movement you can do well with him, combos only make a difference for people on the exact same skill level assuming same amount of mistakes.
Also just play shadow dio, even a comboless cretin like me can do his loop

>>715376021
Depends on character. It is a very fast game regardless but different characters have different levels of optimal play. Fundies are king in jojo rather than gimmicks and you can make up for a lack of combo knowledge or other things with good movement, pushblock, etc

>>715381370
Popular characters help a game keep players. Believe it or not, characters do matter in any game, even more in fighting games. I don’t have the community edition installed right now and I’m not good at it because I’ve barely played it against competent people, so I’d rather not play it right now. If AACC was something I could actually open on Steam and play online I would be playing it. I have considered practicing it more to play here, but that’s not something I can always do to play it.

>>715319514
Based but we need some fucking rollback
Also not a fan how they removed the kino sidepanel art and suddenly the game is 16:9 instead of 4:3 which I'd argue made it less aggressive.

>>715317204 (OP)
im going to learn blazblue and im going to main Es

>>715317204 (OP)
she looks like she pleases old men for money

>>715381992
It might keep players but MBTL is boring enough to have people drop it even with a principal cast of Tsukihime characters.
I seriously SERIOUSLY doubt that the lolicons would rise up to support a diminishing game singlehandedly like you're implying. It's not like Arcaan Heart has been any more alive with its literal classroom full of middle schoolers.

>>715319514
>found out the creator that made Arcana Heart is dead
>no more Arcana Heart

How depressing. This seem like a fun series atmosphere wise.

>>715380060
>>715381568
I see. Thanks for the responses.

>>715317204 (OP)
Cute shoes.

>>715381992
lol dodging bitch

>>715382391
lolicons were already picking miyako and DAN.

>>715383075
Yeah, and most of them are gone now.

>>715382391
Just having lolis isn’t enough. DA Noel is in type lumina. She’s not very strong but she’s also not as popular and doesn’t have the history Len does. Being an alt of Noel diminishes her status as her own character as well. Miyako is also a good character but still not as popular as Len. Having Len, in best case both Len and White Len, would be a huge boost. If it didn’t have either DAN or Miyako even less players would’ve stuck with it for as long as they did.
>>715383075
I could play +R if you want. I don’t feel like playing a game I have little serious experience in without practicing.

>>715333420
>420
Ayy lmao

>>715380937
Saber has several times more are than Len. Where are all the Saber fans in TL?

hit me with some fighting game truthnukes

>>715378283
DNF Duel was trash. They had one shot to make a DFO fighting game and they fucked it up. It's a shame because I think a sequel that fixes the major issues could be pretty good but there's a 0% chance of it happening.

>>715383996
DP type moves with loads of invincibility are a crutch, same with any other character who abuses i-frames

>>715383772
Saber is from Fate. Putting Len in something like Granblue wouldn’t particularly boost it because the rest of the cast aren’t from the same series. Saber also wasn’t in the older Melty Blood. I like Saber, and actually like all the guests they added in their own series, but their inclusion as guests was not as helpful as a proper roster would be. She is still a popular character to be seen there but Len would have a bigger boost for Melty Blood than Saber did. Out of the guests Saber probably did bring and keep the most players.

>>715384081
just shimmy or safejump lil bro

>>715383996
This is the greatest special move of all time.

>>715384106
>Len would have a bigger boost for Melty Blood than Saber did
this has to be one of the most delusional statements I've read this day.

>>715384437
This is why I should keep in mind anyone I discuss things with on here has likely never touched the series in question.

>>715384343
SEE YOU LATER

white len could save lumina

thanks doc

>>715383423
>would be a huge boost
To my experience, lolicons don't play fighting games. Not even you seem to be playing as much AACC. CF and UNI are also filled with lolicons who don't play.

>>715383996
balance is a spook

>>715385413
I play +R and some CF and UNI2. Lots of lolicons play fighting games and the type moon community has a large amount of lolicons, or at least people willing to like a loli. Miyako and DAN were common sights last I played some type lumina online, so even if not as much as Len would they still brought in their fair share.

>>715385596
>Miyako and DAN
I actually ran into a lot more Aoko and Akihas than either of those two.
There's only like one honest to god Rachel and Platfag around here on /v/ while a bunch of people who post Mika/Linne don't play UNI.

>>715385112
i look like this

>>715385596
>type moon community has a large amount of lolicons
but none of them say the retarded shit that you do

>>715385773
I’m actually working on learning Rachel. Linne and Mika don’t sit right with me. I tried Vatista but she’s weird to play. Not her inputs but how you lose projectile wars so you need to go on the offensive, many matchups are like playing Guile against Deejay or JP.

>>715386268
And Typemoon is primarily made up of gacha players while a small portion are VN readers, with even less playing fighting games

>>715386836
The vn reading portion is larger than the entirety of most fighting game communities. Fgo being very widely spread doesn’t negate that the core parts of type moon are already huge.

>>715387174
Larger yes, but having a high population of general audience members still doesn't translate to playing a fighter. Look at MK.

o lawd he comin

>>715387356
I don’t think Len alone would bring it to being as popular as a game like sf6. I think Len’s addition would be a very noticeable boost and the best single fix they could do. If it began with an entirely better roster and didn’t have PC issues for so long it could be at least around Granblue and Strive. Len would still be a big step in the right direction for bringing more players to the game, more than any other character could. A significant amount of type moon fans have played or do have an interest in Melty Blood, so a popular Tsukihime character would help greatly.

>>715388084
>would be a very noticeable boost and the best single fix they could do
Spoken true as someone who hasn't played a lot of MBTL.

imagine how boring len would be in lumina
>no combo AT
>no cat walk
>no kamone mix
>no funny 3C abare
>dorito won't delete life bars
>neco oki would be the same shield rps as everyone else
and considering how every lumina button is already pure red and half screen, she'd lose her trademark air superiority

>>715388084
>more than any other character could
not nanaya, ryougi, sion or satsuki?

>>715388270
Improved gameplay would help. But even if they ported the gameplay 1:1 from aacc there’d be less of a boost than Len would give it. Fixing the gameplay and adding moons might be the only thing that could be close to how much Len would help. Ideally they’d do a large game update or even a new game, and have Len be the first new character. That would be the absolute best way to save it.

>>715388481
Len>Nanaya>Sion=Satsuki
I am fairly certain out of anyone not in type lumina Len is the most popular, and this is taking into account the fighting game aspect.

>>715384067
What was wrong with it? Is it worth it to pick up for $10 when it's completely abandoned just for the story modes?

>>715317204 (OP)
Why is she shitting her pants?

>>715388405
>>715388270
Why is Lumina bad compared to AACC? Never really played melty blood.

>>715388850
MBTL is the first game in the rebooted Tsukihime universe and more importantly, still the first version of the revamp. In comparison, the older game, Actress Again (Current Code) is like the 5th revision of Melty Blood that was basically built up for like 8-9 years.
MBTL has far less options in characters, movement is stiffer, gameplay is a lot more streamlined which has both its upsides and down, while the combo game is wholly unsatisfying and repetitive. Its universal mechanics are also way too easy to use and interrupts the flow of gameplay that already feels stilted in comparison.
I'm of the mind that says MBTL would still be a boring as fuck game even without the comparison being made to its predecessor. The roster has little to do with its downfall for me because they would not have been able to save it in the long run with how boring it is to play.

what fighing game character can command grab you for 12 frames

>get challenged by a (?) rank player on Fightcade
>it was an alt account

>>715389529
Chipp Zanuff

>>715317204 (OP)
Yes but that was about 20 years ago

>>715388850
every button is like this and the only reason they did this is so clashes would happen.

>>715390637
arcana heart have similar hitboxes on everything like the bottom one

>>715391087
And AH3 is better than MBTL

anyone want to play me in any of these games
NA West
i have the skill level of a fetus

>>715391627
add melty and blazblue to your fighting game repertoire thx

>>715391627
why not just play randoms, whats the point asking here as if people will help point out your flaws or help your gameplay after

>>715391627
Not playing rn but main(s) for each game?

How's uni2sys celes and how good is the punch loli

>>715391087
buttons having notable hurtboxes at angles that you play around is imo one of the defining traits of melty.

>>715392193
shit and punch loli is shit dan tier joke character

>>715392193
You have mobility but your buttons aren't as big as the others. I hear she's a bit lacking on the damage end but I haven't fought a really strong Mika in a bit so I can't 100% corroborate the damage claim because everyone has damage in this game if you know your routing.

>>715388789
>for 10 dollars
Lmao. This shit was free twice on epic, you're retarded if you didn't pick it up by now.
>just for the story modes
LMAO

>>715392252
and what makes is shit

>>715392839
scroll up to see all type lumina slander and all that stuff also applies to under dogshit 2

>>715385112
Len love.

>>715392908
Kagetsu Tohya was so good… Has to be my favorite vn.

>>715391087
Arcana has a lot of clashing because moves have clash frames, not because they have obnoxious type-lumina hitboxes.

what about rachel

>>715394708
Well, did he?

>>715394708
Why does this nigga write like its 2010s facebook

>>715389778
NOOO YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND I CAN'T LOSE MY MEANINGLESS RANKED POINTS OR A HANDFUL OF MEXICAN STRANGERS WILL THINK I'M A LOSER!!!

>>715392540
why do you have to reply like an insufferable douchebag?

>>715392193
It's good if you like legacy fighters and don't mind learning longish combos. She can hurt people pretty badly but you have to be smart about how you approach due to hurt short buttons limiting her options but she can get really screwy with her 8 way Mika missile attack (particularly the EX one which can let you get some nice cross-ups).

>>715395610
I didn't, I just reply to retards appropriately. Now piss off and go do actual research instead of being retarded.

how do i play her

>>715382556
Examu were legendary devs as far as I am concerned.

>>715395939
Issues at home, possible small penis. Got it.

>>715395990
Learn how to weave through certain attacks with your drive's select invuln options and just overhead the shit out of people and punish careless projectiles.

>>715396109
I didn't ask for you to tell me what your overpaid therapist said in his most recent analysis about you.

>>715396223
Extremely small penis I see. How unfortunate.

>>715396407
Refer to here and read it closely this time, even though it may seem extremely difficult for you. >>715396223

>>715391627
>everyone dodged you
you are the god gamer here

>>715396578
Damn anon I get it, you've got like half a baby carrot down there. You don't need to tell me twice.

remember to do your daily grddle
https://www.whosgotgrd.com/

>>715391780
Some people do give advice. I learned how to play fgs thanks to nightly UNIST threads back in the day to the point I was able to take games off of top players (though never went beyond to the point of taking more than maybe 1 set and haven't been on the grind lately).

>>715396726
Are you usually this pathetic or is it just a sunday special?

>>715396842
I'd rather just play

>opponent switches characters

how do you live with yourself

>>715396842
I guessed Merk because he got seemingly more punishes but I guess you can get alittle GRD gain on combos too.

>>715397179
>if it's their main
Feels good because they're showing respect
>if it's anybody else
Feels good because they're less confident now

>>715397179
Try that on my rolento

>>715397307
What if they switch to a character they're remarkably less good with?

>>715395990
pray to god they have geriatric reactions for her 6b, and hope they're retarded and crouch block her drive strings instead of just reacting to her drive lows. The only real 'good' way to open people up is to make people scared to anti air her somehow and then instant d6b them from a jump in. When you get a hit she does get safe jumps from shotgun but her damage isn't good so it kind of goes back to hoping your opponent can't defend or play neutral for shit.
Otherwise, good luck. She's considered the worst for a good reason.

Can anyone recommend a good leverless controller for someone just getting into SF6?

>>715397412
Feels bad because they most likely gave up the spirit of competition (unless we're in a regular lobby then it's no big deal).

>>715397179
Before they nerfed Belial, people would constantly switch to him if they lost in the lobby. It was so annoying.

>>715396849
well nobody helped me so that's the norm

I spent my whole day jerking off instead of playing fighting games

>>715317204 (OP)
Fighting games like Melty Blood and QOH were great. But today they will demoralize you for playing it.

post your secret google doc knowledge on your game

>>715399918
That will be 20 bucks

>>715399391
Who's "they"?

>read guides online for character
>dustloop says it's an awful move because blah blah blah
>the move is actually a PARTY crasher and is pretty fucking good.
I mean for me that only happened once but I wonder if anyone else on supercombo or any of the other fighting game wiki had someone write shit that you heavily disagree with.

>>715399918
It's pinned in the discord, bro

>>715400727
It happens all the time.
Whenever I played GG which I hated because some nigger wanted me to play it with me they kept insisting 6p was good for some characters when it wasn't and other options were pretty much always better.
For games I do like, I remember some people say certain grabs and rekkas are bad and punishable on hit but in practice it is rare to find someone who knows how so they aren't that bad.

>>715397179
i swap characters when im trying to chillplay and some goober picks his favorite autochar

>>715400727
>dustloop lists a combo
>some don't include momentum or micro dash if they require it
>most matchup charts are empty because they have to be from a very experienced player yet they can't even make observatory and easy guidelines for the matchup

it is tiring

>>715399918
every character has different damage scaling on their throws

>>715391627
I'll play 02UM if you're still looking

>>715317204 (OP)
At full force.

>>715320656
>>715378837
I have adopted xD in my 30s after sneering at it in my teens.

>>715400727
I write for a wiki, mostly just my main but also tidy character and system data pages. The thing you have to understand is that anything can seem good early on because you're new to the game and/or people you play aren't ready for it. It's about stuff not being good long term, you focus on what defines your character instead of gimmicks. That said I feel like people do have a tendency to not explain why you shouldn't actually use stuff.

>>715404168
yeah and i've played in tournaments, some of these guys just don't play the character and write for shit desu.

>>715404168
ok but most fighting games are years old now so the knowledge is out there. Even if it isn't at least write down what you know, then if new tech or strategies are found, use that outdated knowledge as a base as to why it doesn't work.

>>715404301
well tbf to this guy, im talking about android 16 5m and it's crazy that the wiki said it's a shit move considering that thing is just a FUCKING COCKMUNCHING good on oki. just run up, wait a little, hit them with the 5m, these dumbasses always block low or if they dont it's oki baby just continue your blockstring.

I asked Google AI to give me combos and it did

>>715383996
fighting games were only good because of 90s spritework of a cool ensemble cast of anime characters.

>>715317204 (OP)
Fighting games were only ever fun before nerds figured everything out.

>>715321023
Dodging btich.

I'll play AH3 if anyone else wants to.

>>715406315
GOOD MORNING SAR

>>715406398
I'll play if you make a new thread. This one is almost dead.

>>715407804
I'll host if someone ends up making a new thread then.

I looked over my replays and noticed I don't interrupt the opponent enough.

>>715404168
>. That said I feel like people do have a tendency to not explain why you shouldn't actually use stuff.
that's because you can explain to someone why a move is bad or why you shouldn't spend meter on X one thousand times and the other person will always say "nah im sure its not tht bad" or "nah you're just bad" and then its a matter of learning the hard way
sometimes its better not to bother explaining things and go with a warning