why do some devs give their games nonsensical endings?
wouldn't it be better if the story had a cohesive conclusion

Man, seeing my dumb drawover as a thread header got a chuckle out of me.

>>716091949 (OP)
that happens when you have fanfiction writers doing the story.

>>716092043
you mean just dumb teens who don't know any better
doubt any of them played the games that inspired the game they made a fangame of

>>716091949 (OP)
I mean, the story had a mostly cohesive ending for what it was. I mean, as a prequel, it's options are inherently limited by the thing it's a prequel to, so it's not like any of the characters can be shown to go on to be massively important or anything, since that raises the question of what exactly happens to them for them to not be seen in the original. Obviously Clover was always gonna bite it, but the rest of the characters at least get to live out their lives in peace until UT happens. The ending's mostly just a status quo sort of thing. Only one more soul is needed to break the barrier, and the next human hasn't fallen yet, so everyone's just gonna have to wait until the next one comes, and whatever happens happens. Until then, life goes on.

>>716091949 (OP)
because it makes people talk about their game for ages. if everything is answered no one would talk about it anymore

>>716091949 (OP)
they cant write

having finally played it myself, the ending isn't as bad as a whole as I wanted to say it was. its just very specific moments like roba agreeing to the suicide that are completely botched, but when the plot demands that the game ends with a character being dead its not a terrible concept. Execution is key

this image always gets a laugh out of me.

>>716091949 (OP)
As a writer myself, endings are the hardest part of any story. It's why I prefer to get mine out of the way ASAP and work backwards through the series of events before a proper draft.

Clover's sacrifice would've been a bit better if they did it *against* the wishes of the main cast. Like, while Starlo, Martlet, and Ceroba are arguing about what to do with them, Clover takes the chance to slip away by themselves to Asgore's castle, where they then fight Asgore (you can even leave it up to interpretation as to whether or not their sacrifice was entirely intentional or if they were actually trying to complete their mission of getting justice for the 5 human souls), and lose their soul to him just like in flawed pacifist.
You could even have a sappy ending with the main cast as Clover stumbles out of the castle with the last of their energy to see their friends one last time, make a big show of it.

>>716092043
Sometimes fanfics are kino though

>>716092786
I think conceptually, clover trying to be 'clearly' self sacrificial in the pure pacifist run itself isn't bad itself. for one of the pure route endings its not terrible for it to have a sense of finality, but I think it being against the wishes of the main cast is absolutely key. possibly he could sneak off to asgore like that after the cast turned his offer of their soul down. sneaking away in the night or something like that do to what he "knows must be done"

I still think Clover should have gone to save Kanako in pacifist even if Kanako was just a plot device the devs promptly tossed aside once Roba had her fight

>>716092262
>since that raises the question of what exactly happens to them for them to not be seen in the original
You could always do the KOTOR solution of having it set so far before the main game that everyone in the prequel will be long dead by the time the main game starts.

>>716093565
honestly nothing wrong with them having multiple endings that dont flow into undertale properly. would be pretty cool if it was just variations of neutral that ended up leading to undertale, "walk not the middle path"

>>716093690
That was what I originally thought was the entire thing with UTY happening maybe 10 or 20 years before at least, but then the devs come and say it is only a year which fucks up a lot of stuff, just because they wanted to force Flowey into it

>>716093697
even after all this time, i think its retarded how they had a "what if... clover killed everyone?" route and not a "what if... clover gets to live?" route.

Hey smellows, guess whose /vrpg/ thread just died?

>>716093818
you're far from alone in that thought looking at all the different stories people have written for the game. its been mentioned before but the royal guard outside of undyne genuinely isn't a big enough threat for them to be so scared of keeping clover safe. yes undyne herself IS the outlier but she's not winning a fight in the dunes, its out of the question and I dont think she has it in her to attack while clover sleeps. shes too anime hero for that.

>>716093975
it was weeks old and had over 700 posts, what about it?

>>716094038
thread... lived a good life

>>716093975
that thread was LONG anyways.

>>716093761
> the devs come and say it is only a year which fucks up a lot of stuff
It really doesn't. The story mostly handles any problems that would arise from it taking place so close to the original game by having most of the game set in the out-of-the-way locations of the underground, so it doesn't really clash with anything in the original.
>just because they wanted to force Flowey into it
Flowey existing in UTY isn't an issue, there's nothing in the original game saying he couldn't have encountered one of the previous fallen humans, and the way he acts in UTY is pretty consistent with how he acts in the original game, most people just don't get the fact that Flowey isn't actually some cunning mastermind who's perfectly capable of manipulating anyone into doing what he wants, and is in fact kind of an idiot who tends to misread situations constantly and fuck things up for himself all the time.

also a fangame update, lambdarune (one of the chapter 3 alt takes made before chapter 3 and have been stuck in limbo) finally posted an update where they are finally adding a battle system (previous demo was just cutscenes)

>>716091949 (OP)
>OP post is all about the ending
this is the only thing people talk about when it comes to UTY lmao

>>716094392
Not quite, people also love to argue about you-know-who.

>>716094392
it's either that or the foxes
not that the rest of the game is bad, it's just kinda mid until the wild east and steamworks where the team finally figured how to make a game instead of copying beats from UT

>>716094392
its probably because the rest of the game ranges from kind of rough, to pretty good but that one ending in particular is troublesome.

>>716094392
wrong, we also talk about the cowboy getting with the vixen.

>Clover wants to sacrifice himself
>He goes with Starlo, Ceroba and Marlet to see Asgore
>Marlet tells to Starlo and Ceroba to wait outside
>Same thing happen like the Flawless Ending, you can choose to fight or sacrifice.
>When Clover dies, Marlet returns with Clover's belongings
>Then is the same as the pacifist ending
And in the flawed pacifist ending Clover decides to sacrifice himself just there in the roof.
And that's it, better endings that we got

>>716094250
looks neat, hope it finishes so we can have more DR content.

>>716095424
while it would rip off undertales pacifist ending, his friends escorting him to asgore and not stepping in to save him in true pacifist would still feel fucked

what UTY needed was going off track to find kanako and kiss her comatose gooped lips to wake her up, Disney style while Ceroba catches us in the act and we get a fight harder than her hardest fights all for raping her vegetable daughter

>>716094474
>>716094476
>>716094561
I guess that is true, plus me pointing it out is basically just saying the obvious
I think I wish more active around when it first came out to talk about it with others, since now it's basically just the shit i'm talking about

>>716096014
>they tried to stop him
>suddenly a barrier of spears drops
there fixed and now you have undyne fanservice too.

>>716096268
I'd prefer an "inside the mind" style fight like flowey's where you purge kanako off the integrity infection

>>716096351
what if it was a soul only exploration bit.
the conflict between integrity and kanako has warped the structure of kanako's mind to such an extreme that its an outright labyrinth that you need to get through to purge integrity
you use wasd to shoot in specific directions

>>716096351
>>716096504
the flashbacks from roba's fight could be moved there too, sure they are interesting but they break the pace of the fight a bit

>>716091949 (OP)
It seems to be expected now in most media, it's happened with movies and TV.

>>716096351
>>716096504
I feel like having the story completely derail to actually be about saving Kanako would've been a massive misstep, it would've completely fucked over the story and the game's pacing, and totally ruined what it was building up in the Steamworks with Ceroba acting all suspicious.

Which one was better?

>>716097000
ok but the game already derailed with the whole "achually ceroba didnt go to the true lab" despite building it up for the whole last area. that was one of the major points of argumentation for the first year after release

>>716096313
it could work, but uty overplays how ready asgore is for the killing. Id expect something more like in a neutral ending they walk away from asgores castle, but in a true pacifist run they turn back around and run to try and save clover and are either too late, or show up as clover has decided to give up his soul. it at least takes the damning writing of the main cast accepting the soul off their heads.

>>716096313
undyne's never seen a human before frisk

>>716091949 (OP)
Most people complaining that a story or ending didn't make sense simply didn't understand it.

>>716097000
Makes more narrative sense for the thing Ceroba was hiding to be "she's planning to kill you" rather than "She plans to leave Kanako in Mengele's basement forever"

>>716097223
its not that it doesn't make sense, it was just badly written
and this is a fact since the devs wrote the story when they were in high school

>>716097030
UTY's from a narrative and gameplay standpoint beats UT's Flowey
But nothing will beat the cathartic feeling when Finale's drop kicks in, and i mean nothing. It's the reason i think the Omega flowey beats Asriel and Sans.

>>716097201
Where are you getting this from?

>>716097201
and? Yellow is already breaking the canon since their conception

>>716097000
it would but the hard truth is that too many people like kanako (aka the version of her in their heads) to not want an ending where she gets saved
>>716097273
what? the former was already what she was hiding from the rest of them. that's why she wanted his soul in the first place

>>716097223
skill issue is always on the writer/artist's part, not the audience's

>>716097223
the fact that ceroba doesn't react to clovers sacrifice being a 1:1 mirror for her daughters sacrifice that accomplished nothing is a significant misstep. its like its writing itself aggressively towards ceroba having a come to jesus moment about not letting children take on the responsibilities of adults, and she instead is suddenly the first person to be ok with it.

>>716097223
there's nothing really confusing about the ending. i think most anons ITT get what it's going for. they simply don't like it because of it requiring the MC, a child, to commit sacrificial suicide.

>>716091949 (OP)
because creatives are retarded and need a real actual person who's lived an actual life to reign them in
see: how the mass effect 3 ending was written
it was one fag locking himself in a room
also: Kojima
death stranding is all the proof you need

>>716097581
specifically that it requires that happening under the supervision of adults that care about the child but become retarded suddenly to let the moment happen.

>>716097423
>what? the former was already what she was hiding from the rest of them. that's why she wanted his soul in the first place
Which player only finds out after they've come to believe Roba's planning to kill them.

>>716091949 (OP)
I genuinely don't understand how people don't like the ending. Clover is all about justice. Clover wanted to figure out where the missing humans went, found out that the humans were killed, but it was ultimately the fault of the human race in general and the most justified thing would be to sacrifice themselves.

>>716093818
The Clover kills everyone route makes sense and I actually like the subversion of the route being somewhat justifiable and not just "Clover evil lol". Clover doesn't know if Flowey is lying or not, so Clover is completely acting in self defense for any encounters that they don't seek out since to them they WILL die, and for any they do, well... the monster race are literally going to genocide humanity. The only thing that's a little dumb is Clover not having an honorable fight with Starlo.

>and not a "what if... clover gets to live?" route.
Flowey would have never let that happen lol.

>>716091949 (OP)
to be fair, the fact the yellow soul canonically has to get the anime figuring jar treatment backed them into a corner with what they could do
a forced fight against asgore where you are forced to lose wouldve been just as bad if not worse
genocide is the best ending precisely because it doesnt give a fuck about the established canon, so its allowed to give you a satisfying ending

>mfw Genocide Axis
waku waku clover, you can become super saiyan!

>>716097929
>a forced fight against asgore where you are forced to lose wouldve been just as bad if not worse
multiple anons here claim that would've been better lol

>>716097127
No, what the game was building up during your time with her in the Steamworks was that she's lying to you and manipulating you for her own purposes, which we find out is to finish Chujin's serum project using your soul and Kanako's body. Ceroba telling Starlo and Clover that she wants to go to the lab to save Kanako was a cover story to be alone with Clover so she could take their soul. This is why she doesn't have Starlo tag along with them, it's why she doesn't let you use the Steamwork's built-in mail system (so no one else knows you're with her), and it's why she leaves if she detects your soul isn't pure, because it won't work for the serum anymore.
The entire Steamworks section is supposed to be building up to the fact that Ceroba is hiding something, building up to the game's twist. Having the twist be that "oh she actually wasn't lying about saving kanako but she wants to take your soul, mwahahahah!" would've been stupid.

Honestly I like the endings we got, but I watched through this fan animation and god this ending is so fucking kino.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ta97QPytNAM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_JZE7URQt5I

>>716098046
the grass is always greener on the other side
there is a reason nobody talks about the flawest pacifist ending

>>716097924
one of the common ways people rectify the ending isn't by keeping clover from killing himself, its by suggesting it not happen in front of his friends that give up talking him down almost instantly. again what others said, thematically we get it, but it wasn't executed in a way that ties together very well. I keep saying it but ceroba at the very least should not have been the one to agree to things. it flies in the face of the character arc you watch her go through immediately before that.

>>716097929
I think flawed pacifist is as satisfying as genocide. Killing Ceroba is practically doing her a good favor, her daughter is practically dead and she shut her cunt tight after her husband died, getting those furballs reunite in the afterlife is doing them a service. Or should i say, it brings justice.

>>716098137
>again what others said, thematically we get it, but it wasn't executed in a way that ties together very well
oh I thought people were mad about Clover sacrificing themselves at all.

>>716098207
some people are but I think it really is because clover is a kid and a kid having to sacrifice themselves for justice itself, is not just. Clover would have deserved better from those that should have been in a position to care about him. Thematically he gives his soul up to be just and it does land as an emotional moment, but if they really wanted to make that ending they should have found a way for clover to do it despite the objections of those around him, not with their support.

>>716098105
honestly can not stand this video, I can not fathom what they are going for with this writing for asgore but it does not fit. fangames also overuse the whole unavoidable attacks but yellow is guilty of that itself I guess when it comes to asgore.

>>716098436
NTA, but that honestly would've been good and would hit way harder. him still going through with it despite their protesting

>>716098563
yeah I could see it playing out well. even with the issues in the ending its still very emotional as it is, I just feel like it could have been so much stronger.

>>716098551
>I can not fathom what they are going for with this writing for asgore but it does not fit.
funny hearing that, since a decent amount of fags wank that guys videos for being more in-character and in-line with undertale's writing

>>716098551
>>716098642
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7vM6NUGq4Q

>>716098067
>Having the twist be that "oh she actually wasn't lying about saving kanako but she wants to take your soul, mwahahahah!" would've been stupid.
No, what they did was stupid. That would've actually been good.

>>716098642
I didn't watch any of the other videos after that shitshow so I wouldn't know if they made stuff that was good.
>>716098694
its dogshit, pure unfiltered dogshit.

>>716097593
wasn't mass effect also due to EA meddling with the development of 2?

>>716098804
>its dogshit, pure unfiltered dogshit.

>>716094229
>there's nothing in the original game saying he couldn't have encountered one of the previous fallen humans
Flowey can be a little bit of an idiot but he's not a monumental retard with no planning capabilities.
Undertale starts with him trying to kill Frisk, had Frisk not been a superhumanly determined little freak and Toriel not been around, it would've lead into the obvious: kill Toriel/Asgore and just leave.
In UT he wants Frisk to challenge Asgore so the Souls are out in the open for him to take them while Frisk and Asgore fight, he doesn't need to plan for it, he can expect it to happen because Frisk is now functionally immortal.
But he only arrives at that plan after realizing he's no longer in control of the timeline.
In Yellow, he has no such issues, he absolutely should just kill Clover the moment he arrives, take his Soul, kill Toriel/Asgore, take one of their Souls and just leave.
There's no cunning needed for that.

This is quite literally the same argument that shuts down Dess being human.

>>716099263
you know what, I can tell you are invested in this thing so I feel a little bad now. my opinion is unchanged but to each their own.

>>716099463
>he absolutely should just kill Clover the moment he arrives, take his Soul, kill Toriel/Asgore, take one of their Souls and just leave.
Yeah, except we know what happens when he tries to take Clover's soul, and it doesn't work out for either of them. Plus, Toriel and Asgore aren't pushovers, it's just that we only ever really see them fighting people they don't actually want to fight, so we don't have a good idea of how strong they really are. We know from UT that Flowey's never actually beaten Asgore by himself, so it's possible that a single soul might not be enough to take down a version of Asgore who actually wants to fight.

>>716099470
I don't really care. You've all proven that you like slop.

>>716099792
>Yeah, except we know what happens when he tries to take Clover's soul, and it doesn't work out for either of them.
with UTY team having the player control clover, it is specifically the player's determination that stops flowey at that moment (and the player's presence at all already breaks UTY because the player is more determined than anything in universe, even frisk's determination isn't actually his but the player's)
if flowey did exist back when any of the other humans did, without player intervention, then he could easily have nabbed a soul, specially if he still had control over the timeline

>>716099919
the person that made the video you're talking about also made a lot of uty videos. I apologize that you have issues.

>>716099963
Flowey having control over the timeline in UTY is a gigantic plot hole because Undertale already established that a human soul is more powerful than ANY monster soul but everyone seems to just ignore this glaring issue with the entire story.

>>716099792
Flowey literally tells you he's killed everyone.
And why wouldn't you believe that, he can save and load, eventually even the toughest opponents won't be able to stand up to it, that's quite literally what we do to Sans and Undyne, Sans literally has to try and cheat to even come close to "winning".
It's not that he can't kill Asgore, it's that he's never gotten Asgore to reveal the SOULs to him.
>The king has six of them locked away.
>I've tried hundreds of ways to get him to show me them...
>But he just won't.

>>716099985
>quantity = quality!!!!
lol

>>716100240
flowey doesn't have a soul, he just has an insane amount of DT
even so, the player's DT is still much greater than his

>>716100240
Flowey doesn't have a soul, he's just determination. they clearly played with the idea that clover had just a little less determination since in the genocide route he surpasses flowey.

>>716091949 (OP)
>why do some devs give their games nonsensical endings?
At least it's better than having no ending because the dev is too lazy to make a single game, and instead is shamelessly milking his own franchise, stripping it from its soul and turning into a worse product overall

>>716100316
what an odd post to make. have a good day anon, I wont be engaging in this any further.

>>716094250
I don't remember this part with tenna

>>716100317
That doesn't matter, undertale established already that a human soul is more determined than anything that exists in the underground.
The red soul is not special thats retroactive shit the fandom came up with
The only time flower has power over the timeline in undertale is when he has MORE HUMAN SOULS than you do, because nothing other than more human souls is stronger than a human soul.

>>716100441
that's back from when people thought mike was tenna
here is a video with the "playthrough" of lambdarune
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EtYlUHXQzE8

>>716100491
>The red soul is not special thats retroactive shit the fandom came up with
we have no confirmation that the red soul is NOT special, we have no confirmation that every human is as determined as another. we know that one human soul, that fell on top of the grave of another human who supposedly had the same color soul in life, had more determination than even the living clump of determination. there are a lot of gaps in our knowledge that allows someone to write up a scenario like uty

>>716092262
all they had to do was let you fight asgore but have it be unwinnable (or make it winnable but really fucking hard and state that losing is the canon ending)

>>716094578
>Retard mother
>Autistic father
What would her problem be?

>>716102030
completely neurotic.
she's scared to the point of complete paranoia that she's going to get one of her parents worst traits, only to develop a new one as a result.

>>716100879
You can fight Agore, but only in the flawed pacifist route (which is the least taken route in the entire game because why would you do the pacifist route and throw it all away at the last fight).
Fighting Asgore should have been a Neutral ending. And should have happened when you said "no" to live with Martlet Instead of Flowey killing her no matter what choice you made.

>>716092424
>>716099470
Is Zenith Martlet harder than the Roaring Knight and Sans?
I was able to beat the Knight with Mantle but I got filtered by Zenith Martlet

>>716102867
no idea, I need to go and try the fight. realistically its gotta be harder than sans,going back and looking at it hes not really that "hard" he just turns the expected rules of the game on their head.

>>716102867
Zartlet is harder if you don't have the Golden Bandana

>>716091949 (OP)
The ending was fine, the genocide's ending of Martlet not jumping you with the royal guard is the retarded part.

>>716103235
they would have been a burden on her in the fight. thematically her actually stopping and facing you was a good character moment. what the fuck is RG01 going to do in this fight when zartlet is calling down Armageddon

>>716092604
>As a writer myself, endings are the hardest part of any story
No they fucking aren't. Endings are easy. The problem is that being a writer gives you brainrot. Fans know exactly what they want out of endings, but as soon as a fan becomes a writer, he starts hallucinating about being deep and meaningful, deluding himself that his work needs to have impact and make people poop their pants.
Endings should
>match the tone of the work
>generally be happy, though not if it goes against the tone of the story
>generally be clear and robust, except in extremely limited circumstances
>be what the story was leading up to and not feel like it came out of left field
When in doubt, just marry everyone off and have them live happily ever after. People rarely complain about endings like that.

>>716104247
Don't listen to this hack, people! Proper ending should
>be unhappy
>come out of left field
>make the entire journey completely pointless
The whole point of the story is to boost your self-esteem by making other people feel dumb for engaging in it.

>>716102867
Yes, Zarlet pre nerf is the hardest thing in any (full length) UT/DR game

>>716104868
>>be unhappy
>>come out of left field
>>make the entire journey completely pointless
so basically TLoU2 ending?

>>716103624
Base Undyne literally clears all UTY monsters and Clover as well, it was on purpose

Took an anon's advice in the last thread and tried tracing to get a skeleton. Still not how I'd like it, but this took me 3 1/2 hours. So this is the best its gonna get.

>>716106005
while martlet herself is a goof off, zenith martlet is unarguably stronger than undyne the undying let alone her standard self. undying was intense but she also didn't fight someone at lv 19.

>>716106195
>nine inch tails
so thats why he's edgy, he's a tailet that a dog could mog and he cant cope with it.

>>716102030
High functioning autism in her areas of interest, which flips on a dime to borderline retardation when she exits her areas of interest.

>>716097030
Honestly a hard choice.
Canon Omega Flowey is the perfect rug pull, and executes the save meta gimmick very well, but ultimately is just a glorified cutscene that isn't hard.
UTY Omega Flowey has an insane care put into making the each of the specimens, to the point the canon soul phases look like a joke (and they are a joke, you can't even get hit), and the anticlimax of the ending is nice, but there just isn't the same buildup and payoff UT had with Flowey.

In any case, it will be very hard for Deltarune to out do both of them. Insert here a very long rant about how much I was disappointed with the Chapter 4 Titan battle and how that felt like Toby trying too hard.

>>716106201
Zenith Martlet
>25 attack
>40 defense
>time limit before melting and gets weaker over time
>no soul modes
>fighting a weaker human who has less DT than flowey still

Base Undyne
>50 attack
>20 defense
>no time limit
>can force green soul mode which immediately turbo fucks clover as well
>would have more DT than clover in Undying but wouldnt even need it

>>716104247
>When in doubt, just marry everyone off and have them live happily ever after. People rarely complain about endings like that.
Yeah but that's painfully safe and boring.

Martlet Talonjobs

>>716096351
This might be controversial but I don't like the assumption everyone makes that the Integrity human is an irredeemably evil person. They did kill at least some monsters but that doesn't make them a genoslide-tier mass murderer, we have no context for the number of or situations that lead to those deaths. Maybe Chujin just sucked at his job and that's why his soul got AIDS.

It feels like an extension of people acting like anything other than true pacifist in Undertale is evil. There is some room for philosophy in that, because you can save and load, you may have a moral obligation to do the most right thing even if it takes a number of tries, but in-universe the other monsters outside Undyne don't treat you like you're Hitler for most neutral run outcomes. Integrity couldn't save as far as we know, so for her it could have been pure self-defense without the luxury of rewinding time and finding a better outcome.

>>716106569
Would you rather be bored or would you rather be enraged?

>>716106201
Lv 19 Clover is weaker than Lv 19 Frisk

>>716106504
green soul wouldnt fuck over clover because theres no chance in hell undyne isn't letting them defend themselves and block.
>weaker human
lv 19 clover is an inch away from taking over the timeline himself
>>716106738
and undyne did not fight lv 19 frisk

>>716106289
As funny as that would be, the shirt has nothing to do with his tails. Its just the name of his favorite band (which he keeps on payroll to play his theme music)

>>716106683
Bored, but I'd also rather be impressed.
People shouldn't completely shut down their creativity for fear.

>>716091949 (OP)
>kid you've known for a few hours wants to kill himself to free your kind
>you are retarded (marltet not calling royal guards for backup, Ceroba. , starlo not braining you in geno but will kill you in pacifist)
>anons are confused on why you'd go along with it

WE know that JUSTICE is freeing the monsters and fucking over the humans so its the most justified thing one can do. What's the problem?

>>716106504
>time limit before melting and gets weaker over time
No there isn't. If anything Zartlet has more longevity since she didn't have to die to reach that state.

>>716097030
Also, forgot to mention how well made the first phase is.
The whole glitchy aesthetic is what I'd expect out of a decent Gaster battle in Deltarune.

>>716106785
>undyne isn't letting them defend themselves and block.
She does it for Frisk.
>lv 19 clover is an inch away from taking over the timeline himself
Level 1 Frisk already takes over the timeline with no questions asked.

>powerscaling matchups
don't make me post Shu (forma dorada suprema)

>>716106504
>Using stats
The stats don't mean the same thing in UTY and UT, this was stated by one of the devs of yellow during a stream
If they did meant something then Knight Knight (a random mercenary from the Core) would be stronger than the Zenith of monsterkind, Knight Knight has 36 in both stats

>>716106201
>zenith martlet is unarguably stronger than undyne the undying
What the fuck are you on about man

>Powerscaling Undertale
Niggas need to be reminded about NARANJA soul

>>716107040
>undyne isn't letting them defend themselves and block.
>She does it for Frisk.
sorry that was actually a fuck up on my part. I meant to say that shes not going to do that.
>Level 1 Frisk already takes over the timeline with no questions asked.
controlling the timeline does not equal attack power, but frisk is absolutely stronger than clover, but im saying undying would get splattered without a fight against lv 19 frisk, and she would against lv 19 clover as well.

>>716106195
I just realized I got the colors wrong

>>716107147
>this was stated by one of the devs of yellow during a stream
They said stats are actually accurate in UTY, the calculations are based off of it
UT was never stated to be wrong or anything

>>716106785
>and undyne did not fight lv 19 frisk
Its an apples oranges to comparison then

>>716106589
Integrity did try to murder a toddler.

>>716107174
The meme is wrong since Martle has two whole health bars, one of the devs even said she would have survived in the Zenith form if Clover didn't take her first health bar
Besides HP is a social construct in Undertale, its super inconsistent, Super undyne takes thousands of damage per attack and yet the monsters in hotland only take dozens or hundreds
Btw if you think Zartlet is weaker than Undyne then that would make Axis (a robot that already killed a human) weaker than Mettaton, which goes against the narrative of UTY

>>716107369
I'm saying frisk beats clover beats martlet beats undyne
>>716107174
im genuinely convinced that the stats are just scaled differently since the fight is done with the justice blasts considering afterwards clover takes over the timeline and justice nukes asgore. There is absolutely no chance undying would beat endgame clover

>>716107191
Whats with that soul?

>>716107096
Can you really call it a fangame thread without at least 1 Shu?

>>716107191
Val no diffs Zartlet and Undyne

nubert beats the shit out of everyone

>>716107468
>she would have survived in the Zenith form if Clover didn't take her first health bar
Wasn't her first health bar just her bra?

>>716107468
>one of the devs even said she would have survived in the Zenith form if Clover didn't take her first health bar
you mean the same devs that got basic UT facts wrong and instantly make UTY non canon even ignoring the ending?

>btfo's your powerscaling thread
And yes, he beats Asgore too.

>>716107526
>I'm saying frisk beats clover beats martlet beats undyne
That's too many degrees of separation. Might as well be arguing how many Spongebobs it would take to beat Zartlet.
>There is absolutely no chance undying would beat endgame clover
Maybe so, but that's more due to him gaining control of the timeline.

Did you guys know that going by stats an Aaron solos the entirety of UTY pacifist route?
>Kitsune Ceroba
>AT 13 DF 15
>Aaron
>AT 24 DF 12

Hey, are we getting a new /vrpg/ thread anytime soon?

>>716107827
asgore is gonna beat the fuck out of him next chapter

Where is Naranjanon anyways? Haven't heard from him in a while.

ENTER

>>716107854
>uty bosses getting mogged in stats by normal UT enemies
this is accurate. uty bosses are weak as fuck compared to ut. just because your headcanons about UT stats isnt lining up doesnt mean toby put the numbers there for no reason

>>716107468
>Super undyne takes thousands of damage per attack and yet the monsters in hotland only take dozens or hundreds
same reason clover can rocket to LV19, it is all about intent

>>716107553
Orange soul is Kid Goku falling into Mr. Ebott.

>>716107868
Whenever you feel like making one.

>>716107946
"Tsk tsk tsk sans, did you forget what that S in your name stood for?"

>>716107946
Mogged by Clover (jacket)

>>716102030
Being a goop monster locked away in the True Lab

>>716107829
im not using this as powerscaling like how deathbattle clowns use it. im asserting direct superiority of each person in that order, though phrasing it that way I was asking for it since thats how they come across.

>>716108012
That's probably the crappiest Strong Bad cosplay I've ever seen.

>>716108083
Not pictured is the immediate aftermath where Clover's zombified corpse started strangling Flowey.

>>716107941
I'm in this thread I haven't posted progress since I have been procrastinating like crazy, I'm about to finish one of the first cutscenes of the game and after that is done I'll start making the first platfoming rooms
I still have plans to release a gameplay demo in a few months, which would consist of the game's intro, some platfoming rooms, a proper tutorial for the fight system and one or two fights with common monsters + the boss fight from the prototype

>>716108130
I'm more concerned about that TV. It could kill someone.

>>716107946
>Oh shit it's SHU

>>716092604
the ending is the easiest part sitting right next to the beginning. those are the two parts you should know before you start working on everything else
the hard part is actually connecting the two.
my advice
>work on the absolute beginning and where it goes
>move to the ending, start working backwards
>create a skeleton (not that kind) between the ending and the beginning
>in this skeleton include the major plot reveals and developments needed to build towards the ending.
>once you finish the skeleton, put a little meat on it and flesh out the developments between the major things
from there, you can deal with all the flavor, minor details, and insignificant nothings. as you actually build that part of the story.

>DRY's berdly equivalent is Shu
kino

>>716108282
Who replaces Mario in this situation?

>>716107968
>doesnt mean toby put the numbers there for no reason
I mean, he did make the entire royal guard canine unit weaker than the random civilian monsters from waterfall and hotlands, unless they are that pathetically weak in lore

>>716108197
I still think Dina should be fucking the brains out of Starlo until he sees actual stars. He does not belong anywhere near Ceroba.

>>716108393
Undyne the WEAK

>>716108412
>unless they are that pathetically weak in lore
Seems pretty plausible to me. Asgore wants nothing more than for the humans to evade capture so he doesn't have to kill them.

>>716108512
Reminder that acording to Shu, his inexperienced son is on the same level as Undyne

>>716108250
on the topic of nothing burger updates, still no update for DRY2.
i did find an artist that was able to make a decent sprite for one of the flower girls, however. but since he's not from here i wont be sharing it.
but i will give you guys a few greens.
ideas, hit me.

>>716108680
greens for UTY, or DRY? anything goes?

>>716108680
Shu (piss form) jobbing to Clover (jacket)

>>716108767
anything.

>>716107721
The powerscalling discussion around the different orange fangames are going to be crazy, I can already see people making videos comparing Riley's and Val's biggest feats

>>716108803
alright, if you're game, could I get a wholesome Ceroba/Reader green?

>>716108675
shu is probably the funniest thing to come out of UTY

>>716108680
A very sloshed Roba accidently/unintentionally spilling some of her secrets to the bartender.

When are we as a fandom going to accept the fact that Undyne is a jobber supreme?
Lost to a toddler, lost to heat, lost to Shu, lost to a teen doe.
Gets a powerboost in genoicde and still loses.

>>716108680
kanako getting a metric fuckton of hugs from cole and the consequences that follows

>>716106826
Sure, but there's nothing wrong with knowing the limits of your abilities, anon. It's perfectly respectable to say.
>I am a hack.
>I have no business trying to write a deep and original ending.
>I have neither the talent or knowledge to pull off something truly memorable.
>I am only suited to writing slop served in a trough.

>>716091949 (OP)
Hot take but Chujin and Ceroba were in a toxic relationship. I don't think it would've worked out when Chujin valued his research more than his family
I also think the devs were implying that Ceroba was starting to move on after the pacifist ending. Though I can hardly tell when she has the charisma of a fucking doorknob

>>716108969
shes a jobber but shes a passionate jobber. her pure belief that things could live on even in the genocide route is a good trait despite being dead wrong.

>>716108969
undyne is the third strongest monster in the underground after asgore and papyrus
it tells more about monsterkind's strength than undyne herself really

>>716109063
>anon's thinly veiled furry lust

>>716108969
shes the least jobber, undying is literally the strongest natural monster weve seen, humans are just that broken

>>716109063
>I don't think it would've worked out when Chujin valued his research more than his family
She'd never leave him and he'd never leave her. The only way it falls apart is when someone dies, like what happened in the game.

Besides Chujin didn't value his work more than his family, he was just convinced that his work was the only way to protect his family.

>>716109129
realistically without saving power undying would slaughter most any human to be fair, but papyrus is the zenith of monster moral integrity
>>716109145
>veiled
anon I dont think theres even a thin veil there

>will dodge, will self heal to max, will have the hardest attack patterns
>will go undying and ALSO obtain more DT than (You) at the end to reset the timeline
>battle theme will btfo megalovania
>will end all powerscaling discussions forever
ENTER
THE HERO.

>>716098105
I don't like how Martlet isn't more shaken up by Asgore killing Clover. Even if she knew this was bound to happen, I'm surprised she didn't take greater offense to that happening.
Otherwise, the fight's a great alternate take. I loved how Flowey started seething over Clover not being able to break free from the death loop.

>>716109331
no anon this isnt the deltarune thread, its the yellow thread.
look for the homostuck thread.

>>716108868
I am going to make the power scaling debate so much worse when I finally get my game out. Half a dozen new super forms, all the strongest monsters in history, and a completely different system of measuring stats so you can't even compare those against each other.

>>716109373
Can't wait.

>>716109063
>starting to move on after the pacifist ending
Yup yup YUP. Another mom """befriended" by some good food and bad laughs.

>>716109373
What's your game about, anon?

>>716109373
make sure the game has three different mutually exclusive scaling systems that are never used together and trying to compare them only makes things more confusing.

>>716109145
That pic was there to grab your attention. But yes I do want to fuck 'roba
>>716109250
The way I see it Chujin had to make a choice. In the end he was lost in his own world as his work consumed him, so we can see what choice he made there

>>716109373
>Half a dozen new super forms, all the strongest monsters in history, and a completely different system of measuring stats so you can't even compare those against each other.
Shu BTFOs all of this btw

https://files.catbox.moe/7zgqtd.mp4

>>716109443
he can't keep getting fucking away with this

>>716109443
He can't keep getting away with this

>>716109373
Waku waku, i can't wait.

>>716109520
stop shilling your shitty oc, redditor

>>716109351
she was going to be and then asgore orders the royal guard to escort her out of the room but the devs cut it because they thought it "didnt fit asgore's character"

>>716109443
Sorry, boner, she's taken

>>716109443
Another mom to add to the harem

>>716109565
isnt this a thread of shitty ocs though? the strongest would be the shittiest

>>716109585
>shu stealing the bear girl
anon won't be happy about this

Martlet is the real mom figure to Clover. You'd only momcuck Kanako.

Papyrus on the other hand, he's the real [Big Shot]

>>716109585
>the bear girl too
fuuuck... he can't stop WINNING.

bird model

>>716109701
She's getting boned either way. The moment she lays an egg, it's over.

>>716109679
according to the original artist she gets cuckquean'd by his OCs

>>716109652
>beat Undyne 14 times

>>716109373
Are you going to add blackjack and hookers as well?

>>716109447
Its set during the human-monster war and you play as the only monster to take a human soul during the war. So that means there's the player character (forma de (you)), the height of monster civilization before the humans exterminated their best and brightest, loads of high Lv monsters from all the fighting, and more than two boss monsters. And a level system completely unrelated to LOVE, so you can't get an easy measuring stick to compare characters against each other.

Of course its not about power scaling, but as a consequence of what it is, I can already tell it'll be power scaler bait

>>716109701
Papyrus is a cool dude unlike that smarmy little niglet

>>716109912
Oh, you're that anon! Good luck on your project, bro.
So how's the story going to work? I'd imagine as a monster you wouldn't be fighting a lot of other monsters in the war.

For the love of god, please don't let this thread devolve into donut steel oc shit, just about anything else would be preferable.

>>716109493
>The way I see it Chujin had to make a choice. In the end he was lost in his own world as his work consumed him, so we can see what choice he made there
I don't think he did. The man was clearly not well mentally. In his mind he was doing everything he could for his family. He just wasn't salient enough to realize what he was doing wasn't helping his family at all.

KANACLOVER(KANACOLE)

>>716110045
>please don't let this thread devolve into donut steel oc shit
What do you think UTY is

>>716110045
To be fair, UTY is a game built around donut steel characters.

>>716109850
That was from a flashback from long ago, he has actually beaten Undyne countless times

>>716108784
:(
fine but its going to be a complete shitpost
>good end timeline where clover gets to live in the underground
>somehow, wanting to sacrifice himself convinced asgore that he was good enough to live in the underground
>as a gift of goodwill he got a neat rain-coat from undyne for if he visits waterfall (she didnt want to give it, mind you. she's willing to tolerate clover since asgore said he's fine but thats it)
>oh but whats this? ITS SHU!
>he lands in the dunes with his royal larp outfit (a suction cup falls behind him shortly after. he crawled across the ceiling)
>Shu "halt! human!"
>Ceroba "shu, not this time. clover got permission from asgore to be here"
>S "that is merely because the king is weak! he does not have the will to follow through with the plan to free us!"
>C "(its true, i guess. but thats not a bad thing...)"
>Martlet "just ignore him clover, the real royal guards should be here soon. he wont really be able to do anything"
>shu holds up an amulet, and is suddenly enveloped in a yellow light.
>C "huh thats new. cool party tri-"
>shu launches a bolt at ceroba
>-10
>C "that... actually hurt? how?"
>STarlo "oh hey i remember that. this weird art-e-fact we found behind dina's a few weeks ago. it makes you yellow and has its own attack"
>C "oh thats why it hurt, it wasnt his."
>ST "clover! dont get hit by it!"
>M "arent we all over reacting a bi-"
>shu launches a bolt at martlet
>-11
>M "huh that actually did hurt"
>S "and now for you! HUMAN!"
1/2

>>716109983
>So how's the story going to work? I'd imagine as a monster you wouldn't be fighting a lot of other monsters in the war.
Everybody wants (you) for their own purposes, while (you) and Racter (the poor monster you're stuck to) just want to survive. Conflict comes from there. I thought about including a bunch of humans as enemies too, but decided against it since that would add other souls into the mix, and frankly I find humans to be the most boring part of the setting.

>>716110128
undynesissies...

>>716109904
>Blackjack
>>716109912
Speaking of which, are you going to add other pre war monsters from fangames? Like blackjack from UTY? I mean mlstly as cameos and such

>>716110169
>shu launches a bolt at clover
>+5
>everyone stops
>S "what... just..."
>ST "oh yeah thats right. blackjack said the art-e-fact had the power of water! (dunno why it looks yellow though) that raincoat must be inverting its damage!"
>C "starlo that doesnt make any sense"
>-10
>C "stop"
>S "no. the human must be apprehended! even if the amulet wont work, i shall take him by hand!"
>ST "now hang on there pardner, dont you think it'd be better to get to know clover first? you might understand why the king-"
>-9
>ST "...dunno why im surprised that it hurt"
>shu pulls out a staff and charges at clover.
>clover steps to the side as shu tries to jab clover with it
>it instead jabs into the ground and shu catapults himself into a chasm.
>clover "will he be alright?"
>ST "dont worry about it clover, he always comes back (annoyingly enough...)"
>C "yeah this one time he got launched so hard he made a hole in a wall. you can still see it on the mountain over there"

>>716110118
>>716110086
Nah, the characters in UTY aren't that bad when it comes to OCs. They're not particularly strong, or charismatic, people don't love them by default, they have actual issues, etc.
Shu is like unironic Sigmario, and watching people (especially on r/undertaleyellow) completely swoon over him feels like watching people under mind control that I'm somehow resistant to. I feel like Commander Shepard over here.

>>716109824
Anons rave on Shu's artist all the time but they never mention his other OCs.
These two are messed up. The "boyfriend" literally got mindbroken into dating his stalker and it never gets called out because the artist thinks it's "cute".
Not to mention the guy was close to dating the bear girl before all of this happened.

>>716110248
>Shu is like unironic Sigmario
Please don't make him sound based.

>(especially on r/undertaleyellow)
Ah, I see why you're acting pissy, you're an unironic redditor that has to deal with unironic shufags. How I pity you.

>>716110248
Everyone here is obviously taking the piss anon, nobody is taking it seriously

>>716110248
I've played undertale yellow. Who the fuck is shu???

>>716110248
I think the people going on about shu are taken by the sheer silliness of it and engaging in the art of longform shitposting, instead of actually praising the character.

>>716109585
Even the girls from other universes want him...

>>716109464
Funny thing is, Undertale already has that. You have Determination which gives humans their power, magic which is what monsters get their power from, LOVE, which is distinct from magic and DT, and then robots which are just electricity and metal, so they can be super tough without even having a soul.
>>716109520
No way man, Darkblade totally no diffs. He'd just teleport behind him, then click the sheath on his katana shut, and Shu would split in half life in an anime.

Narratively speaking, Genocide is the best and worst written route
Best because it really hammers the point that Clover brought a fucking gun for a good reason, even if shit's a toy gun to him, that shit is a nuclear warhead for 89% of monsterkind and Axis telling him about blu's death really made him go super saiyan and gained LV out of pure rage.
But also kinda trash that some bosses just threw themselves into the meat grinder (Looking at you, North "i'm gonna bring a peashooter to a fucking gunfight" Star) and Clover's justice turning into vengeance is something that happens in such a swift way, i think that through starting Genocide, we should've gotten more and more clues about what went down, finding Kanako's lifeless body with the same aura as the blue soul would've been a great start to make Clover start thinking to not make a single exception for monsterkind as a whole.

>>716091949 (OP)
so you'll talk about it

>>716110339
>Someone who looks cool and strong for once!
Ah yes these are normal Susie words

>>716110265
I swear to god, the only reason people give Shu and all this other nonsense the time of day is because there's just nothing left to actually talk about. It's like that post from that one half-life tumblr account that describes itself as a cactus in the desert whose flesh hydrates but also slowly poisons you, but there's nothing else around.

>>716110376
>and then robots which are just electricity and metal, so they can be super tough without even having a soul.
anon... all the robots in Undertale have souls and aren't even "robots". They're ghosts possessing robot bodies.

>>716110326
>he didnt recruit shu

Has a kid ever tried to kill you?
Not with a frying pan or a knife, just a pair of old ballet shoes.
Did their attempts threaten your life at all?

That's how weak monsters are.

>>716110334
>>716110323
I know that's the case here, but god is it so much worse on r/uty.
>>716110312
Yes, I know, but it's one of the only places to find a good concentration of uty content these days, and every once in a while some of it manages to be half-decent, so I do what I must.

>>716110265
You're saying that like yandere and dom fetishes aren't super common here, and like people aren't already cooming over a gender swapped version of this too.

>>716110186
So are you playing as the human or Racter? Does Racter generally have control over the SOUL or is it more like Asriel and Chara's situation?

>>716110339
>Mooch isn't there
This little gremlin continues to be my favorite by everyone forgetting about her.

Martlet on the beach (she broke her back to take this photo)

>>716110326
OC from some reddit kid who is unironic power scalling wank, he is the second strongest monster in the Underground (now the strongest thanks to a powerup) and Cerona is madly in love with him >>716110128

>>716110513
idk, maybe integrity got that Chun-Li lightning kicks. First thing a monster sees is integrity casually approaching someone and doing the SA2 from 3rd strike.

>>716110339
Shu fucked EVERYONE in this pic btw, including Tenna in the top right

>>716110339
>Kris
>Ralsei
>Fucking Berdly
AIEEEEE SHU-SAMAAAA

>>716110583
It's ok, she's bendy. Similar to how an OWL can rotate their heads 270° degrees both sides, she can do the same with her spine.

>>716091949 (OP)
>>716092043
>>716092246
Idk how to tell you this but those teens grew up, studied "creative writing" or something, and ended up writing for games. They didn't learn anything, their writing has not changed or improved since they were 14, and they cannot comprehend writing a protagonist who isn't a self-insert.

>>716110583
>No cute tailfeathers
Still a good pic

>>716110326
>Who the fuck is shu???
You must've speedread, he's like half the game's soundtrack.

>>716110816
In case anyone is wonderimg, the themes in that video are all random chinese sounding music with no leitmotifs

>>716109904
I don't know if I can fit the hookers in without it breaking the tone.
>>716110238
I'm gonna be honest anon, I still haven't played UTY, mainly because I'm still waiting for someone to make a good ending mod for it. That probably won't happen now, but that's why I initially came to these threads. Now I'm here to keep track of DRY, Naranja, Wildfire, and the other fangames, while also discussing my own since the anons here talked me into working on one. I will play UTY at some point, just not right now since I'm busy with development.

I didn't even know Blackjack was alive during the war.

Anyways no, I don't want to include any per-existing characters since the whole point of setting it X thousand years in the past is so I can have more creative freedom.

>>716110326
He's some kid's super powerful unbeatable fox oc who every female character in existence is head-over-heels for and thinks is awesome. People on reddit seem to genuinely like this character for whatever reason, whereas people here tend to rewrite him as furry Mr.Satan. I think that latter characterization can be slightly charming, and the idea definitely fits into UT's world, but god is the former grating to see unironically.

Big mouth

>>716111025
>furry Mr.Satan
no anon please dont endear me to this, fuck

>>716091949 (OP)
I don't know, but I just watched a video of what a Soulless Pacifist run would look like in Undertale Yellow and it was kino. It's better than Undertale's own ending for the genocide route IMO.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRsBeAK-MoM

>>716111075
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8OIyUNgJCws&ab

>>716092312
>if everything is answered no one would talk about it anymore
people still talk about mgs4

>>716111089
I remember there being one decent green about Shu basically being a total jobber, but somehow managing to distract Undyne or whoever and buying time for some human she was hunting to get away, and I thought that was a decent way of writing him. If that's what the original version of him was, I honestly wouldn't have too many issues with that, but that ain't the case I'm sad to say.

>>716110547
(you) were a human, until you died. Now you're just a soul in Racter's body. Racter is a corpse without (you). He can talk on his own and that's about it.

>>716110326
an extreme self-insert who is the strongest and literally every waifu wants to fuck him, he also calls out every character's shit personally in the story, it is absurd to the point of being funny

>>716109250
If Ceroba wants to put her family back, then maybe they should just stick together...

>>716110248
I like the idea of Shu being monster Mr Satan, with all of those reddit posts being posts he made on monster twitter to try and look cool, meanwhile lives in his mom's basement and hasn't been in a real fight in his life.

>>716111089
Our interpretation of Shu is really funny, he is a loser who lives in his mom's basement, photoshops images where he beats Undyne and posts them on the undernet and his kid brother is the only one who buys his bullshit
And in case you are wondering Shu actaully tried to join to the royal guard but he somehow fucked it up and was so embarrassed he didn't try to join again

>>716111389
>>716111359
the thing is, despite all the lies, Mr. Satan is actually a really good person when the cards are down which makes all of his other stuff endearing. if people are going all the way with it to that extent thats hilarious and I dont want it to be

>>716110382
Genocide makes a lot more sense if you consider Clover remembering shit.
>Clover tries to stay with Toriel
>Reset
>Clover leaves the ruins
>he keeps dying, reset
>Clover waits for Toriel to save them from the dark ruins
>Reset
>Clover tries to give up their soul willingly
>Reset
>Clover tries to fight Asgore
>he dies, reset
>Clover tries to stay with Martlet
>had enough of this shit, kill them both, Clover is stubborn, encourage him to remember so this doesn't happen again, reset
>Clover finally remembers all the timelines he has experienced
>Clover wanted justice for the fallen humans, in return he was forced into a time loop of endless death and persecution by monsters that prey on children so they can wage war on humanity
I'd piss all over monsterkind too.

>>716111476
Like I said, it's better than how Shu is normally. I'll see if I can find that green I mentioned, it's basically the only Shu related thing that's even half okay.

>>716111089
The reason he hates Undyne is that he failed the notoriously easy royal guard exam and Undyne laughed at him for it. He lives in his mother's basement and larps as Goku to make himself feel strong. He genuinely believes that his act has fooled people into thinking he's a badass that they shouldn't mess with, but the only person who actually believes his act is his kid brother. Undyne knows about his twitter larping, but leaves him alone out of pity.

>>716110434
There's only the one robot in Undertale. UTY has Axis, who is just a robot. Even with Mettaton his strength isn't from his soul, its explicitly stated to be from his metal body.

>>716110339
>>716110423
Fake image, here's the real one

>>716111285
Does anyine have the pic of Undyne saying that even if the entire royal guard attacked Shu at the same time, they wouldn't be able to beat him? Thats the funniest Shu related image

>>716111476
Alright, here's that green: https://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/708317695/#q708364940
Honestly, this is probably the best this character has ever been depicted, and it's almost certain the original creator has never seen it, and never will, so their CWC-esque bullshit will continue unchecked forevermore.

>>716110247
The only thing wrong with this is that any of them know who Shu is. Other than that its perfect.

>>716111840
its honestly more funny to imagine them being aware of it. I cant bring myself to want to bully some autist, im sure they couldnt take it in good stride but the idea of someone turning your character into mr satan is still hilarious

>>716111871
Shu is the underground's most infamous lolcow, everyone knows him

>>716111871
i like to imagine that shu is only known because he keeps doing annoying shit that nobody can really ignore.

>Starlo didn't dig a pit to trap Ceroba in so now he spends all day LARPing
What could've been...

>>716111476
Shu is too. Under all that boasting and bragging is a kind and caring guy. He's too afraid to show that without his mask of false bravado. He really does care deeply about his family, and half of the reason he keeps up the act despite it not working is because it means the world to his brother. He'd hate to shatter the little guy's dreams by telling him that he doesn't have super powers and his kung fu is fake.

>>716111915
Keep in mind that his character is genuinely meant to be monster Goku. So he might take the Hercule thing as a scathing insult, especially since its such an obvious self insert.

Did we get autosaged?

>>716112361
>because it means the world to his brother
about that... (does this remind you of any other foxes?)

>>716112509
Seems like it
It was nice while it lasted

>>716112463
yeah like i said I have no intention of actually chasing down the autist and showing them.

>>716112512
forgot to post pic
and it looks like the thread got autosaged. whelp

>>716112512
Wei is basically bargain bin Kanako in that guy's official lore. If that's not what you meant, then no it doesn't

>>716112463
>>716112568
>monster Goku
Comes more across as chadhan to me, just with no self awareness.

>>716112361
If this version of Shu was an official character, he would have a legion of fangirls, bitches love loser/frauds who care about their friends and family, just look at Reigen from Mob Psycho, he was almost as popular as sans among Tumblr girls

>>716108512
How would Shu fare against her Undying form? Does the Warrior in Blue finally job?

>>716112569
>Implying he would be doing anything other than screaming at her to get Kanako out of the lab right now

welp, mods hate video game discussion as usual.

anyways its hilarious to me when people write starlo as saying "angel help us" and shit because of deltarune when in uty he says "lord"

>>716112639
Heh... maybe he'd break a sweat... maybe...

>>716112509
yep, i got a warning about the time it happened.

>>716108889
>>716108938
>>716108973
sorry about those greens anons, SOMEONE decided that we arent allowed to have fun.
i'll throw em in the next fangame /vrpg/ thread tomorrow

>>716108083

>>716112656
Why the fuck do jannies have some kind of vendetta against UTY?
Why do they think threads about UTY constitute some kind of general? (they're not)

>>716112603
There is another guy with an OC self insert who is basically Gohan, even his creator describes him like that, his name is Kyubi and has a crush on Martlet, also acording to his creator Kyubi is stronger than Zartlet and Asgore

Couldn't we just make a new UTY thread here? This one got cut short, so I see no reason why we can't have a little extra time to make up for that.

>>716112557
there is a new hug clip

>>716112719
It's Deltarune they hate. We're just caught in the crossfire.

>>716112719
Its one mod that's declared a personal war against Undertale and Deltarune. We know its a mod because he keeps banning people and only mods can do that.

>>716112719
its UT/DR as a whole. they've been seething for more than a month

>>716112673
Well at least it wasn't outright deleted

>>716112735
unfortunately not, the anti-UT/DR janny is on the hunt.

>>716112727
Kyubi is also Chujin's son, is paired specifically with middle aged Martlet, and there's a comic of him mauling jaundice Clover to death

Here's the other part of that header image, in case someone wants to make a thematically appropriate sequel thread.

>>716112735
You can, but you run the risk of being banned since Undertale's number one hater is awake again.

>>716112860
>>716112735
I'd not risk it, we already pushed our luck too far with yesterday's thread too

>>716112774
its a shame, through all of the silly stuff being talked about in this thread, we're genuinely discussing video games and being pretty peaceable about it. it reminds me of how threads were before 2010, maybe a little faster but still something genuine in them. "/v/ culture" is only important when its a shitpost

>>716112774
So mods can just pick and choose which threads they personally hate?
Shouldn't they have some kind of manager to tard wrangle them on this kind of shit?

>Thread lasted between 17:00 to 23:00
Well at least we know how long and when he sleeps

Am I supposed to go on the homestuck thread or this one to talk about Deltarune? This one's more active
God this janny meltie makes it fucking annoying to find right the thread

>>716112903
Pushed our luck? We had 30 posts then got deleted for doing absolutely nothing wrong. There's no luck to push here.
>>716112934
I think it being genuine discussion is the reason its banned. Only /pol/ threads and paid posts are allowed to get attention.

>>716112986
they do.
the manager treats this place as his personal kingdom.
>>716113015
homostuck thread got autosaged too.

>>716113015
Before I get ESLed *Find the right thread
That's what I get for inserting a word into something I already wrote without proofreading

>>716112569
Poor Chujin, he has to spent his entire afterlife watching Shu fuck his wife and Ceroba constantly comparing Shu with Chujin

>>716112986
They should, but they don't because this site is horrible run.

>>716113072
Imagine how Shu feels when she keeps talking about Chujin, and moaning his name in bed. imagine how he feels when she whips out the purple dye

>>716113018
it's really unfortunate to consider the truth in that. people say "/v/ hates video games" but that just came from old jokes about nearly 20 years ago when people on /v/ were so passionate about video games that the discussions were intense. we were a bunch of autists sure but we had a good time.
now 20 years later and people took it as the truth avoiding OC and discussion as much as possible.

>>716112986
Human history is a succession of inane squabbles, each one leading the closer to total destruction than the last.

>>716113015
>>716113069
this was the yellow thread.
its about to not be.

>>716112569
I can't believe this image actually made me feel disgust. I don't like that it did that.

>>716112463
>Monster Goku
If he actually were monster Goku, Shu could be a fun character, but he is super boring and generic, he doesn't even like fighting as shown by how annoyed he is at Undyne

I recently learned how to combine .win files.
Will try combining the Anatomically consistent Martlet mod with the Dust Devil mod to see what happens.
Maybe it'll brick my game or just crash upon loading, idk

>>716113212
Oh hey, you again. Yeah, I don't think the mod called Dust Devil actually came out, the one I linked in whichever thread it was was a different mod with a similar idea called Flawed Vengeance.

someday I will have my own fluffy monster gf
someday some fangame with fluffy monster gf will be made

>>716113275
You can already play Deltarune Yellow, you know

>>716113275
You ever think Clover drinks from Kanako's milk?
Maybe Zartlet's, too. Wonder if that would give him powers.

I just realized that other thread from earlier is still viable, even if this one isn't.

>>716113212
Zenith sexo

>>716113395
Is Kanako's milk chocolate flavored?

>>716113382
I know but it isn't enough
I've been waiting for monster gf content for literally years, I'm just starved for anything

>>716113476
>game saved
thats pretty good

Page 9, look's like we're about to cross the event horizon. This was a pretty good thread everyone, nice work. Almost gives me hope the next one'll be half decent.

>>716113492
Damn I wish
Kanako's warm choccy breastmilk...

Do you think Clover and Kanako would spoon
hehe
like the amalgamate

>>716110339
"We truly were, a Sans Undertale Yellow."

>>716112758
That's really adorable. Deltrarune should have more interactions like that.

>>716113609
yes

>>716113572
We could always go hang out in another existing thread. We've done that before we got evicted from out own.

>>716112673
It's alright, just post 'em when you can.
Sidenote, if it's alright, could you make that wholesome Ceroba/Reader green I requested about something specific, like Ceroba comforting/cuddling the Reader to sleep or something like that?

>>716113609
You wouldn't hug Amalgamate Kanako, right?
She'd be all melty and ruin your clothes.

>>716113643
it was a pretty good thread, no reason to make other peoples discussions more annoying not that much of that happens anymore.

>page 9
what?

>>716113515
Do you think the other fangames here like Naranja or Oldentale will include monster GFs?

>>716113395
>>716113492
that milk is only for clover's descendants

>>716113723
mods went on delete spree for a moment that it freed more threads

ILOVETV

>>716113723
Janny of the tranny variety seething about Deltarune
Yet, this isnt a deltarune thread

>>716113664
eeeeh. sorry but i have it half written and was going for a platonic angle.

>>716113763
Fair enough, I should've been more specific when I requested it. Still looking forward to it though.

>>716113476
How do you get Zartlet without doing a Genocide route?

>>716113718
Anon, there's a life support thread that had uty discussion going on it before this one even started
>>716113736
I might do a bit of ship baiting. It can't be hmofa though, since Racter is a bird

>>716113736
naranja anon already showed a few monster girls from his game but he also said you can't date them, which makes me very sad

>>716113824
If I knew how my life wouldn't be miserable

>>716113845
Who knows, we still don't know the full cast, maybe you could date one in the future

4chan is currently shitting itself so the thread's probably gonna die as soon as it comes up long enough for /v/iggers to spam threads about the connection screwing up

>>716113824
Give Martlet a sudden hug causing her to poke herself with the needle because she kept that thing in her back pocket.
Reminder that Martlet would've stayed stabilized in that zenith form if Clover hadn't killed her.

I have a fangame idea and it has a monster girl companion character but it'll probably take me until like 2040 to make it

>>716114060
post it in the /vrpg/ UT/DR fangame thread once someone makes it

>>716113395
quick green before this thread leaves
>Kanako becomes heavily pregnant and starts lactating, but her breast size causes her to constantly leak
>Clover has to start drinking from her milk to shrink them down
>At first, it's only in small doses
>Enough time passes that Clover starts gradually drinking more milk
>To the point where Kanako is concerned that Clover might be getting addicted
>However it seems that does little to shrink Kanako's breasts
>Instead she notices that Clover has put on some extra weight from overdrinking...
not a fat fetishist but I found the ending to be slightly funny

>>716114010
If you squeezed her butt with your hand, could you accidentally turn her into Zenith?

>>716114008
Get on board the Falcon kid, this thread's about to blow!

>>716114010
never really liked theses /aco/ proportions this artist draws her with. her design as it is is really fantastic.

>>716114060
tell us about it in the /vrpg/ thread, anon

i like this bird

>>716114231
that's just his horny art, his regular art has her with more regular proportions, roba too
have you seen his first roba drawing?

>>716114231
>pink and yellow tails
no...

>>716113824
Martlet was helping Roba clean up and decided to help herself to the blue lemonade in the basement fridge

>>716114294
I haven't but I do like that art much better. the hyper exagerrated characteristics never did it for me. the /aco/ look just feels like a drag on designs that are already attractive.

>>716114294
I miss sig drawing roba (and UTY in general) like you wouldn't believe.
Guess that's just how cowboy shows go...

>>716114280

>>716114404
at least he drew some DRY recently >>716110080