Can we talk about how genuinely unnerving this scene was? And what’s worse we don’t know if (You) or Kris is the one that is forcing there to be no dialogue choices

>>716187896 (OP)
baby's first creepypasta moment

>>716187896 (OP)
no deltatroon, but we can talk about how genuinely unnerving your "friends" on discord who want you to cut your cock off and kill yourself are.
stop getting groomed

>>716188310
>>716188458
holy BASED, I just bought even more OpenAI stock

>>716188310
baby's first gaming creepypasta would feature bloody hyperrealistic eyes and a character calling itself god or some shit
tobert gets the appeal of traditional creepypasta while having great taste for horror

>>716188458
I don’t go on discord and I hate trannies… but I still like Deltarune

>>716187896 (OP)
you sound like a fag but that was great
weird route is kino as fuck

peanus weanus etc.

You know what was REALLY unnerving in delta rune?


why, my peenus weanus of course :)

hahah! :D

it's my weeeeeenus peanus! :) hahah

ITT: deltarune scenes that unnerved me, of course, my peanus weenus :D

hahaha!

kids get scared by ms paint game maker games lole. did you get scared because the purple ms paint dinosaur tried to groom you?

>>716188886
baste

>>716188637
okay egg

Sometimes I forget that /v/ gets insanely hostile when it comes to any attempts at conventional horror but will starting shitting bricks in fear when a game has a brown protagonist or something like that

>>716189094
Nah I legit hate this fandom faggotry stuff, 99% of the time but Deltarune is just good. And troons are gross abominations

>>716189160
Go to resetera if you don’t like being around chuds, tranny

>>716189160
>nooo not the brown people
that anon was right in calling you a fag, he nailed it

>>716189160
immediately triggering post, well done

>>716189160
>YOU KNOW, THIS REMINDS ME OF BLACK PEOPLE BEING SHAT ON
Kill yourself.

Oh there's an actual proper thread in the catalog, see ya later niggers

>And what’s worse we don’t know if (You) or Kris is the one that is forcing there to be no dialogue choices
You should be considering it's Susie.

>>716189160
Based
500 more replies seething to your post incoming

dont worry it will get patched soon

>>716189160
Not sure why you posted that in this thread, but it's pretty off-topic.

>>716187896 (OP)
>Can we talk about how genuinely unnerving this scene was?

>>716187896 (OP)
>>716189768
>patch 5.0
>fixed dialogue box that had no dialogue choices by mistake

Its coming

>>716187896 (OP)

>>716187896 (OP)
I dunno. Kris is obviously really broken up about what you did to Noelle, and having to give you back control again. I don't think it's him, though. He fought you off in the Noelle scene if you take too long/mess around too much, but this is an explicit 'pause'. I definitely think it's meant to represent some kind of 'glitch' in the game, that you've fundamentally broken something. Not just with Noelle, but with Susie, too, since she mentions 'the three of us'. I think that's the important part. Whatever the 'main route' is, Noelle (and Susie) are integral to it. I think this is a clear indication that you can't go back any more.
Also perhaps a hint of Susie being either jealous or, more likely, worried about being excluded by her new friends. Poor Susie, bros.

>>716189883
The scene without context isn’t very unnerving, but given that there is 15+ hours of story leading up to it, including scenes where you slowly corrupt a young woman into being a murderous psychopath and even rape her to make sure she is corrupted forever, it hits a bit harder. Also when this happens the screen becomes slightly tinted red and the audio cuts off completely. If you actually played through weird route yourself you would get it

>/v/ is now sucking Toby Fox off over what is in essence one segment in a drawn-out retread of the white phosphorus bit that will take years to finish and didn't actually have an intended conclusion when he started making it

You DID beat the Knight pre-nerf didn't you?

>>716190060
This is all true but the characters are fantastic and the story so far has me utterly gripped

>>716190060
spec ops really traumatized people huh

>>716187896 (OP)
Yeah OP it is a cool moment but it made me think about something else
Are videogames really this inefficient?
9 years for this? It just doesnt seem worth it, should had made the game on RPGMaker or something we could have 10 times the story in 10 times less the dev time

>>716190060
What is the white phosphorus bit

>>716190318
I agree, it is kind of pathetic that it’s taken him this long to make it. To be fair each chapter is very high effort and has a great attention to detail but it kind of exposes how much of a hack Toby is. There’s a very solid chance he doesn’t even know how it should end

>>716190060
Except the white phosphorous scene forces you to make the Bad Thing happen and then chastises you for it. Toby games mog the shit out of Spec Ops because being the one who chooses to make the Bad Thing happen makes all the difference

>>716190161
>nerf the hardest part of the boss
okay already beat it without the mantle.

>>716190372
armyguy accidentally barbeques civilians

>>716190372
From Spec Ops the Line. Basically Undertale and Deltarune lean really heavy into the guilting the player and saying they are evil monsters for playing the game and wanting to see all the content

>>716190060
>and didn't actually have an intended conclusion when he started making it
Bullshit. It's really fucking obvious Toby has this planned out.

>>716190451
>From Spec Ops the Line.
Oh I think Ive heard about that before but never actually looked into it

>>716190372
In Spec Ops: The Line, there's a scene where you need to dump a bunch of white phosphorous on 'enemies' to progress. Once you do it, however, you find out it was actually a bunch of innocent civilians and you have to walk through the result of it, seeing their charred corpses

>>716190418
>Wow you want to play the whole game and see the alternate route with a shitload of new content? YOU PIECE OF FUCKING SHIT FUCK YOU! AND PEOPLE WHO WATCH PLAYTHROUGHS OF IT ON YOUTUBE ARE EVEN WORSE!!! (Yes Undertale literally said this)

>>716190161
My steam is on offline mode and still using the old version. I'll beat the knight before updating.

>>716190451
>Basically Undertale and Deltarune lean really heavy into the guilting the player and saying they are evil monsters for playing the game and wanting to see all the content
After realizing how many dirty rank shitskin turdworld jeets are clogging this board this take started making more sense to me

>>716190539
Miles better than 'You want to continue playing the one route the game has? Do the bad thing and feel bad for it!'

Like I said, it did the same thing but much, much more effectively.

>>716190527
So actually nothing like snowgrave at all then.

>>716190549
>>716190606
Nope, UT and Deltarune are infinitely worse because the game even says you’re a piece of shit for watching genocide route on youtube lol, eat shit Toby

>>716187896 (OP)
I am not unnerved by Mother game ripoffs

>>716190709
>the game even says you’re a piece of shit for watching genocide route on youtube lol
>Deltarune
where

>>716190709
As opposed to Spec Ops straight up going 'FEEL LIKE A HERO YET, HUH?'? Let's not pretend either game is subtle at all, but UT giving you the choice not to do it at all makes the weight of it much more impactful than 'enable our misery porn to advance'

>>716190781
Rearrange the letters in Deltarune and let me know what that spells. Do you think Toby magically changed his position on this between the release of UT and DR? If anything his position has strengthened with how much guilt tripping happens in the weird route

>>716190805
Where?

>>716190549
The amount of brown people on this board really explains why people get so astronomically bootyblasted at any morality mechanics in any game, if an old game like Halo CE released today you'd have constant seethe threads about how killing your marines cause them to turn on you (i.e. basic game design)

>>716190805
They are equally shit, if Toby just left out that Flowey dialogue about how people that watch a playthrough on youtube are sick fucks I would concede

>>716190948
lmao is that what got you buttflustered? The silly flower making fun of you for being a secondary? If you feel called out because of that, then that scene absolutely should be there

>>716190868
>If anything his position has strengthened with how much guilt tripping happens in the weird route
how would you know that

>>716190906
I’m fine with morality mechanics you tard, the issue is obnoxious guilt tripping and finger wagging. Also I am 25% English, 50% Irish, 25% Polish and can prove it

>>716190868
>Do you think Toby magically changed his position on this between the release of UT and DR?
NTA but yes. Deltarune has a whole bunch of shit that shows there are things about Undertale that Toby regrets.

>>716191034
>im fine with morality mechanics but not with them having any sort of consequence

so you just want the 'you lost karma' shit from bethesda games? kek

>>716189883
Irony poisoned twitter nigger

Is there a single villain route in gaming that doesn't have "guilt tripping"?

>>716191164
Depends on what you consider 'guilt tripping' and how thin your skin is

>>716191021
I did true pacifist and couldn’t bring myself to do genocide. Watching it on youtube felt like a fair compromise, I got to enjoy the correct version of the game and then see the alternate, evil version of the game without it weighing on my conscious. But then that faggot flower ruined my day and pissed me the fuck off when he said I was a SICKO and even WORSE than the people who play genocide route themselves. I was literally being punished and mocked for wanting to experience all the content the game had to offer on my own terms. Tony Fox is a disingenuous little piece of shit and he should be glad that I dont find chink women attractive and would never visit the island shithole he fled to like a coward.

>>716190906
>if an old game like Halo CE released today you'd have constant seethe threads about how killing your marines cause them to turn on you (i.e. basic game design)
this is probably what fucks me up the most, undertale isn't even a flawless masterpiece but the amount of bad faith arguments for some of the most straightforward game choices feels like something that solely exists in a post-2000's world
>>716191164
going by /v/ standards probably not kek

>>716191164
Its almost like evil is bad or something

>>716191275
Ok that got a raugh out of me

>>716191275
You gotta be underage, if not touch grass.

>>716191275
Oh the tobster got you baaaaaaaaad lmao

>>716188310
if this was a creepy pasta it'd be low effort blood and gore shit. this is incredibly subtle with it's creepiness.

>>716190161
>He nerfed the Knight
nooo

>>716190161
How much smaller did the swords get? They were unforgiving, but they weren't unfair.

>>716191275
BASED

>>716190539
Why are you taking the message of the game so personally? The way it delivers the message is literally as if it responded to your hostile acts of killing monster for EXP. What do you think should happen if not that? Should they just ignore that you're killing everything? It's your choice, and the game is merely pointing that out and to you it's enough for it to compare it to a game that railroads you into feeling bad, since you couldn't even say no to the white phosphorous. Undertale tells you multiple time that you can stop at any time because if you don't like it why would you do it? You can't even read bro.

>>716191164
Never got round to playing Undertale Yellow genocide but isn't that one supposed to be written with the idea that there's any actual cause to your violence with freeing the souls?

>>716190161
lol I remember everyone here complaining about the knights sword tunnel being bullshit with its hitbox

buff knight

>>716187896 (OP)
That's some garbage art, totally inconsistent perspective.

>>716191469
>You can't even read bro.
>Why are you taking the message of the game so personally?
nta but how is he taking the message of the game personally if you think he can't read it?

>>716191676
Because he's taking things emotionally instead of rationally? Pretty simple. You ever talked to a woman? Nevermind.

>>716189167
There's no way to like this game unless you're gay

>>716188310
I didn't even have time to finish my fries

>>716190161
Huh, I never noticed that Ral and Sus appear in Ch4 guitaroo lol

>>716191746
>Because he's taking things emotionally instead of rationally?
That still requires reading.

Have you guys ever noticed how people complain about what Flowey and Sans say but never about Undyne says?

Undyne is mostly not breaking the fourth when calling the player an abomination, but Sans and Flowey break the fourth wall completely and criticize the player directly. As in, you're not merely following a story about evil, you're being evil yourself.

That's why people get annoyed.

Do you think Toby regrets the "sans is from another world" plot? We're halfway in and we still have no idea what makes sans special enough to be the only one from Deltarune, much less any info about Papyrus or the significance of being a skeleton.
Like, if UT didn't exist, he's just the store guy that fucks your mom.

>>716190451
>>716190539
Spec Ops starts with a stop sign telling you turn back

>>716191789
Semantics. You're taking my jab too literally. I'll just think you're pretending and give the benefit of the doubt.

we should talk about how cute Kris is

>>716191637
>Cabinet
>Dimetric
>Cavalier
>Trimetric
>Military
I don't get it

>>716191812
Probably too much of a Mike-esque mystery, which Toby has recently admitted to not truly care or appreciate.

>>716191812
i refuse to turn on my nigga sans, toby is just yanking our chain
he wrote UT with DR in mind, and he updated sans workshop if you talk to the goner clam
he WILL be relevant, and possibly the most relevant of all

>>716191637
Cheating perspective is standard practice in top down pixel art games. If you're gonna complain about something, complain about Noelle's room.

>>716190161
oh wow she did get nerfed. Yeah i beat her mantleless but the hitboxes on the sword tunnels were genuinely bullshit

>>716191794
>2 characters
waow

>>716192047
yeah
usually stories are centered around only a few characters

>>716187896 (OP)
>the character doesn't speak
>ooooOOOOOooooOOOO!
.

i fixed the game

>>716191862
Just find these kind of "you can't read" comments annoying.

>>716192002
Toby clearly dislikes sans
Spamton got a bit of popularity and Toby went absolutely fucking all out for him
Sans cant even get his battle theme played without toby running you over, despite being one of the most popular indie characters to ever exist
He probably came IRL after some people turned on Sans by having him fuck Toriel

>>716192002
>he wrote UT with DR in mind
lol

>>716192008
>complain about Noelle's room

>>716192229
retard

>>716191812
That fat skeleton faggot had his time in the sun. I appreciate that other characters (Mostly) are allowed a chance to shine and there shouldn't be any sans from another world, sans some big hero come to revenge you if you snowgrave, ect. Going and running you over if you play that misbegotten song makes me think he shares that sentiment and there won't be anything deeper

>>716192224
I think he just hates his fans honestly. Taunting us with not being able to see Papyrus after he hinted we would be able to see him in chapter 2 and the whole Mike situation kind of gives it away

>>716190161
>no spin cake fix

>>716192384
>fighting sans
highly doubt it
>the payoff of sans being delivered
guaranteed

>>716191164
Warcraft 3

I think it's funny that offsite, 4chan is stereotyped as being a putrid den of psychopathic edgelords who blow up vans and hack people, but you step inside and it's people gushing hot steamy tears because the fatass skeleton called them stinky for doing the bad time route

>>716192467
The Mike thing is completely on Toby.

>>716189160
>deltarune
>conventional horror

>>716192627
Yeah we all a bunch of big ole softies :3

AY
I GOT A GLOCK IN MY RARI
AY SEVENTEEN SHOTS NO THIRTY-EIGHT

>>716192641
>literally one word from the famously unreliable con artist

thats on you. it was just a reference to that one soda commercial from 1997

>>716192293
headcanon

toby didn't even know back then that he'd be doing this as his dayjob

undertale was supposed to be a fan project like his earthbound hack

>>716192627
>yeah uh i wouldve probably killed you lol (he never attacks you on pacifist or neutral routes, as opposed to literally everyone else trying to kill you)
>"AAAAAAAA SANS WAS ALWAYS, ALWAYS THE BIGGEST PIECE OF SHIT FUCKING ASSHOLE. HIM FUCKING MY MOM IS NO SURPRISE, HES SUCH AN IRREDEEMABLE PIECE OF SHIT HOLY FUCK"
>anyways shout out to my nigga asgore for goring 6 children haha
It is quite hilarious

>>716192627
These groomed kids dont belong here at all

>>716192724
>headcanon
>toby (PERSONAL HEADCANON)
you are not toby fox

>>716187896 (OP)
I cried when I watched this cutscene on my ipad while eating french fries

>>716190060
>/v/ is now sucking Toby Fox

fnaf babies are 20, jobless, and posting on 4chan now.

>>716192724
Besides him literally saying it, Clam Girl already btfo's you since hes shown he had susie files before UT was made

AIEEEEEEEEE

>>716190161
Fucking Christ, that's retarded. The Sword Tunnel is doable and I'm not a bullet hell autist.
What's the latest version without the nerfs? I'll have to get that. I think I have the first update that came for ch3 and 4.

>First drawings of Tenna. Originally he was actually supposed to look more like an ant and had 4 arms. I ultimately didn't like that idea though.

>>716192926
This made me scared and I cried

>>716191759
faggot hater here, deltarune is great. Fuck niggers fuck troons.

You genuinely have no idea how good of a game you're missing out on.

>>716192775
>sharty in a nutshell

>>716192846
>>716192926
Toby reused a lot of undertale characters

Susie was basically just a character that was going to appear in UT but she was let go at the last moment
same case with gaster

>>716192995
I played undertale and it was the gayest shit I ever played. Thankfully I pirated it the day it came out so i only lost 3 hours of my life. I know how fucking gay and shitty it is.

>>716192641
>People come up with these 2deep schizo theories of mike
>It's just a fuckin microphone nigga

I guess I can't throw too many stones as I latch onto any biblical/prophecy shit but I'm in it for weird occult stuff not
>Tenna was spamton's abusive ex-partner and he loves him but spamton has body image issues and and
soap operatic shit

>>716193016
>susie was (HEADCANON)
yeah im gonna go with mr. fox with this one thanks

>>716189897
It's clearly Kris trying really hard to say something, and being unable to with you in control. The only thing broken so far is Noelle, everything else is working "As intended".

>>716192986
HAHAHAHAHA HE LOOK FUNY HAHA how do I save? A pic? On my iPad.

>>716192705
>Just thinking of "Mike" causes Spamton to blank out with static in his eyes.
Nah Toby made that shit seem ominous as fuck. I'm not even one of the people who was making Mike theories.
> reference to that one soda commercial from 1997
Funnily enough thinking Toby was referencing that is in itself a crazy theory.

>>716190451
>sell a choose your own adventure book
>people read the book
>people re-read the book and make different page choices
>toby fox has a hissyfit shouting "NOOO YOU CAN'T DO THAT YOU HAVE TO LEAVE THE FUNNY FURRY CHARACTERS AS THEY ARE"
>this made him a fucking multi-billionaire with more money than I can even physically comprehend and landlines to every big business CEO in gaming
Every day I am more and more convinced I'd be better off cutting off the internet entirely and just living in the woods.

>>716193016
Ralsei cannot exist as a cut character from UT

>>716190060
>>716190451
>this bait again
kill yourself

>>716190948
I feel like his tongue was in his cheek there. He's aware people will go looking, so he stuck up an acknowledgment that you're not getting the full experience if it's not you pulling the strings.

>>716193106
too many coincidences to think it wasnt intentional. toby references random old commercials all the time. all of floweys voicelines are from an old mcdonalds commercial

>>716192986
Haha, he looks funny. How do I save a picture? On my 5090TI PC.

>>716190161
Yes. I hate it when games get nerfed like this, even though that attack was absolutely bullshit. He should've made the sword graphics bigger instead, lol.

>>716193073
it's common sense lil bro

if Tobyfox had planned anything at all, the entire game would already be out by now

did you beat the knight before the nerf, anon?

>>716193109
>toby fox has a hissyfit shouting "NOOO YOU CAN'T DO THAT YOU HAVE TO LEAVE THE FUNNY FURRY CHARACTERS AS THEY ARE"
Where? Undertale and Deltarune don't do that.

>>716189160
been a while since I was on /v/ mainly shit wasn't this defensive

whos nineball? wheres chief? ahh

Hey guys do you now how to save a pic on Chromebook? I got scared when the skelitin was making loud noises with mama and spilled my milk on my iPad:( now I have ptsd and only drink soi :(

>>716193293
undertale does, chara/murderboy's whole thing with tainting the save file and asriel asking if you don't have anything better to do and toby's whole spiel on the deltarune release page about "the characters in undertale are just as you left them"
deltarune doesn't, because that's endgame stuff, and deltarune isn't FUCKING DONE YET

>>716193109
It's all about execution

a good joke will be ruined if it's delivered by a chud

>>716193353
pedo dogwhistle momento

>>716190948
If toby sincerely believes that flowey statement then he also believes such pithy statements as:

>In this world, it's kill or BE killed.
>Don't you realize that being nice... ... just makes you get hurts?
>NOTHING you do really matters!

Or it was just a teasing twist of the nerve to make people who watch the genocide route but mock those who play it feel awkward.

>>716187896 (OP)
Fake glitches are really effective if they're used sparingly.

>>716193367
>and asriel asking if you don't have anything better to do
Every thread it feels like people get bent out of shape over new things for incoherent reasons, Flowey/Asriel says this line like 6-7 times in the game when you keep repeating shit

>>716193439
Cute kris :3

the more red herrings you have, the better your game is

>>716193192
>not bald
not canon

>>716193491
You can tell who didn't actually play the games.

>>716193583
It's (you)!

guys should I be bi? All the chareters in my favrit games in the who wide worl undertale is gay and there my frens so I wanna be gay like them :D

>>716193658
stinky little shartypedo

>>716189883
kek I entered this thread just for this image, fuck deltarune thirdworlder faggots.

>>716191531
It's arguable that the protagonist feels bad about having to kill the final boss of that route.

>>716193658
Anon. If you would suck ralsei's dick, you're already bi. If you wouldn't, you will never be bi.

>>716193491
>Flowey/Asriel says this line like 6-7 times in the game when you keep repeating shit

The point is: what's wrong with it? Why wouldn't I replay a fun game?

People are mad because Toby asked questions that are really dumb when you look into them, and these questions took the spotlight away from the stuff they actually enjoy from the game.

>>716193658
You should be more like Berdly actually

>>716190161
I FUCKING CALLED IT!
I expected the nerf to be lower damage. I was considering attempting to no hit this fight, but decided against it when I remembered that I had only successfully dodged the sword tunnel attack a single time in about the two dozen or so times I had done the fight since the chapter came out. Maybe the no-hit is back on the table now, though I feel bad doing it in a nerfed version.

>>716193760
>The point is: what's wrong with it? Why wouldn't I replay a fun game?
Nothing.
Why are you letting in-game characters reacting in-character decide how you feel? They're just game characters, if you want to play the game then who cares what they think. They're just code.

sex with nepeta

>>716193760
So every character should say WELCOME TO CORNERIA and that would be peak gaming then

>>716193439
Get back in the video game retard we're doing our 300th no hit knight attempt

>>716190161
Toby is such a pussy for caving into twitter not once, not twice, but THREE TIMES LMAO

>>716193367
Undertale doesn't.
Chara taints the save file because only people who no longer value what the characters "think" of them should be able to do genocide. If you're sad that the funny skeleton man says you're an evil murderer, why are you doing things that make him call you that? Who is holding a gun to your head and making you do things you don't enjoy?
Asriel asking if you don't have anything better to do is telling you that while there is probably more to see, it's not going to be as good as the first time around, especially now that you've seen the true pacifist ending.
Toby's spiel is meant to comfort people who came to the same retarded conclusion you did about Undertale's message and somehow felt that it was powerful critique. I hate them almost as much as I hate you, don't worry, Toby just doesn't want to completely alienate a crowd he's trying to bring to understand.
Deltarune also doesn't, and won't, because Toby does not think you're evil for being mean to NPCs in a video game, he thinks you're retarded for being mean to NPCs and demanding that they still like you and show full respect to you as you kill them.

>>716193695
dont f%&#*^ing say that about undertale fans were not f&(@&$king p;@#!!! F*****K U!!! Im going fking kill u like chara and be gay like they/them too. Now guys serusly should I go bi? In the undertale discord everyone is rly mean to me becus I sayed im not gay but when I said I might go bi cuz eveyone was mean then eveyone was rly nice to me and gave me tons of likes. SO SHOULD I BE FREAKIN BI???

>>716189883
I'll bite. What's a scene that unnerved you recently?

>>716192768
hey as long as sans can swallow the fact that I made a save to beat him at lv 1 before bringing that save to the surface, then we're chill. he's still kind of a dickhead but thats just who he is.

>>716188458
WHY DO YOU CONSTANTLY THINK OF TRANNIES. YOUR THE ONLY PERSON WHO TALKS ABOUT THEM. ENOUGH. THREAD DERAILER!

>>716193819
>Why are you letting in-game characters reacting in-character decide how you feel?
They're the author speaking through his characters. Toby does that very often.

>>716193875
No, it should be like Half-Life 2, where every NPC is sucking your dick.

>>716191537
Source?

>>716193913
Real play is to become a transbian. It'll make you so popular they'll make you a moderator.

>>716193898
>because Toby does not think you're evil for being mean to NPCs in a video game, he thinks you're retarded for being mean to NPCs and demanding that they still like you and show full respect to you as you kill them.
Toby doesn't care one way or the other, what he really gets his rocks off to is you thinking you're being mean or not mean at all when all you're doing is following whatever trail he made for you. Player agency, feeling cheated, Halloween hack, blah blah blah wahtever.

>>716191448
by this much, i love the nerf i was genuinely fuming fighting this cunt for the last few weeks

>>716193942
>no actually I can just tell when dialogue is meant to be directed at me the player from the developer and isn't just how characters are feeling
>there's no way to explain or predict it it just is what it is and only I will ever have the true interpretation
Shut the fuck up you fifth world hypernigger BROWN FAGGOT

>>716193658
I find drawn gay furry shit to be hot but actual dudes not
I guess I'm porn addicted at best

>>716194005
Ok I'll ask the discord if I should be normal, gay, bi or trasbain

>>716193942
>They're the author speaking through his characters.
So there's no actual message to takeaway because all the characters say things that are in opposition or otherwise contradictory to each other, meaning that you shouldn't take them seriously
Serious question though, what's the point of bad faith arguing over a game for more than 10 years because it's made you THAT upset? Shit's definitely not ironic, you'll hit a point where you'll have spent more of your lifetime crying about it than you haven't

>>716193936
he canonically can tell if you killed his brother before just by looking at your face, so this isnt far off

If I can be mod im being trainsbain

>>716194116
>You can't kill my brother!
>But he can kill you :)

>>716194086
>i was genuinely fuming fighting this cunt for the last few weeks
I keep forgetting most of /v/ is unironically shit at video games.

>>716193760
>what's wrong with it? Why wouldn't I replay a fun game?
UNDERTALE is designed to be played precisely three times. Maybe a fourth, if you're feeling generous. Yes, it is weird to waste your time playing the game any more than that, and you should have better things to do than engaging in mindless sentimentality.

>>716194204
I beat jevil 2nd try on switch 2 and the knight i got really far into like 2 attacks off but that nerfed attack i knew had fucked up hitboxes

>>716194116
its fine, he probably learned his lesson about not being observant in whatever happens in deltarune, but as long as he doesn't manlet rage over me being stronger than him in base form then we can chill and get some grillbys
>>716194190
Papyrus is the only monster in undertale that can not kill you under any circumstance in the entire game. Papyrus is also the strongest monster from a moral integrity standpoint.

>>716194190
>>But he can kill you :)
Papyrus never kills you, retard

>>716194074
I wouldn't say he gets off on it, I think one of Deltarune's points in particular is how artificial peoples' expectations of ideas like "choice" and "freedom" are in games.

>>716194086
It's fine. The starstorm hitboxes are pretty forgiving too

>>716194106
>what's the point of bad faith arguing over a game for more than 10 years because it's made you THAT upset?
irony poisoning is a helluva drug

>>716194190
his brother doesn't kill you though

>>716194238
Exactly. Time spent playing it a fourth time is time spent NOT discussing it online with your friends and making fanart to advertise it to other people.

>>716190060
You don't need to go on the weird route to beat the game. Disingenuous faggot

>>716194252
>he probably learned his lesson about not being observant in whatever happens in deltarune
I thought Deltarune was a prequel, sans notably isn't lazy at all in DR and couldnt tell what type of day Susie/Kris had by looking at their faces

>>716194238
>Maybe a fourth, if you're feeling generous.
A no mercy run unironically feels more "evil" than a full genocide run.

>>716194290
That's true. I'm glad we agree.

>>716194086
I cried at this part it was so hard and scary....... it gave me nitemares and I peed my bed for weeks

>>716190161
the tunnel wasn't even the hard part.
It's the one where he aims the insta-kill piercing swords at you.
Jackstein fight wasn't hard, it just dragged on for a bit too long, it didn't need that fix.

>>716189160
Adding a little zesty (you) spice to this post, will check back in for more salt later

>>716194329
deltarune and undertale are called "parallel stories" I think so its honestly just my headcannon on things. I get the impression just because it makes sense why he would be so keen eyed in undertale but lax in deltarune.

>>716190161
wow, knife hallway wasn't even that bad.

>>716194413
the jack thing is exactly because the fight is too long, at least is only if you lose twice, so it shouldnt affect most people

>>716194249
while I applaud you for being persistent, /v/ is still shit at video games. throw that shadow mantle on the ground and beat him you casual

>>716194258
If it's been this many years and he's still obsessed with it, I'd say he gets off to it at least a little bit, but also it's been this many years and a dozen games of note and a billion RPGmaker sloppas have already examined "what does choice actually mean and what freedom does a player really have in a premade video game" and frankly I just kinda feel like Toby isn't doing anything groundbreaking or really interesting at all, it's just that the vast majority of his players just... don't play other games. Like, at all. So it's their first time on the merry-go-round and it just blows their mind. Of course, it doesn't help that this time around the meta stuff is juggled against half a dozen increasingly knotted plot threads purely in the game world itself, and then there's a big layer of SHIPPING AUTISM BAIT thrown on top because why the fuck not, what we really need is 400 more years of "Kris will fuck Susie!/Kris will fuck Noelle!/Noelle will fuck Susie!".

>>716194441
It made me and all my friends cry my one friend got so scared he threw his iPad and broke it then we all went to the discord and begged them to make it better cuz some people that play this game are just KIDS!

>>716190548
If you're willing to deal with depotdownloader. You can install any older version at any times.
Steam keeps all version of the game just in case the dev fucked up an update and wanting to revert.

>>716194290
It IS better to engage with other human beings, or to create art about something you're passionate about, than to mindlessly replay something you've already beaten three(!) times.

>>716194252
>>716194253
>>716194278
Still doesn't stop his brother from attacking you.

>>716194581
thats fine, papyrus is a cool guy. I enjoyed fighting and then hanging out with him. are you some kind of faggot that isnt down to chill with a cool guy? Need sans to hold your hand and keep you safe from the only person who wont kill you under any circumstance ever?

>>716194579
Its the only game that works on my ipad

wow what a terrible thread

>>716194190
Toriel le goat mom is capable of killing you but Papyrus doesn't.
It's kinda silly that a retarded skeleton is more competent at subduing you non-lethally than le wholesome mommy.

I've always wondered what discussions in the Japanese fanbase are like, I feel like there's a ton of western-exclusive talking points that only happen because of the amount of retards that brute-force their way into learning (broken) English

>>716194490
>Of course, it doesn't help that this time around the meta stuff is juggled against half a dozen increasingly knotted plot threads purely in the game world itself, and then there's a big layer of SHIPPING AUTISM BAIT thrown on top because why the fuck not

toby was front and center for homestuck and studied its rise and ignominious fall in detail so he knows exactly how to make something popular. he relies on porn and shipping autism to sustain a base level of discussion in-between releases

Guys whats youre guys's name on the discord mines bluey48975200

>>716194695
its not silly because papyrus unlike a lot of monsters is a man of integrity. Toriel was lost in her own grief and failings but running away from the responsibility, papyrus tackles things head on even in the genocide route. For a man of such strong moral fiber, its not surprising that he can avoid killing.

>>716194679
why are you 10 years old

>>716194746
I don't like it.

>>716194581
"attack" is the nicest thing a monster can do in undertale, literally every other monster aims for the kill. even sans just threatens you but does no harm to you in 99% of the choices you make

>Chapter 5 starts
>THE FESTIVAL
>Susie is ready to throw down with the Knight when they show up
>Games? No knight.
>Rides? No knight.
>Big town announcement? No knight.
>Noelle wants her cloaca? No way fag, gotta be ready for THAT KNIGHT.
>It gets so bad that she's accusing townsfolk about knowing where the knight is and what they're up to?
>Around the time she makes Monster Kid cry and Catti tries to exorcise her, YOU need to step in and calm her down.
>Also she's ruining the fair.
>Bring her to school, get her some of Ralsei's Cauldron Cake™ and calm her down.
>Goat boy explains that a Darkner would never endanger Lightners like that.
>It's halfway through chapter 5, and there's no knight, so they're probably not doing anything today, and you two can go try and get those shelter codes!
>The moment you step out of school, you're in the Dark World again as the town in engulfed in a fountain.
>I TOLD YOU BRO
>BUT 'NOOOO SUSIE YOU'RE CRAZY'
>'TAKE IT EASY SUSIE'
>'CALM DOWN SUSIE'
>'KNIGHT'S NOT ATTACKING, THAT'D BE BREAKING THE RULES'
Didst someoneth sayeth Rouxls?
>NOT NOW YOU MONOCHROME ASSHOLE!

Honestly, I think an excuse to wind down after chapter 4 is definitely needed, and a gut punch after that would be fitting.

>>716194885
>even sans just threatens you but does no harm to you in 99% of the choices you make
Out of nihilism due to his awareness of how determination works.

>>716191759
I like both Deltarune and Steven Universe, I am a straight male and not trans.

>>716194490
>what does choice actually mean and what freedom does a player really have in a premade video game
Not the point Deltarune is trying to make, by my estimation. Right subject matter, wrong idea.
What Deltarune seems to be trying to express, at least right now, is that freedom isn't all it's cracked up to be. Not because it's MEAN TO THE CHARACTERS, because you, the player, have a lot of options a game will never have an answer for, and you often choose not to engage with them solely because of that. A puzzle game can't stop you from looking up a walkthrough, nor can it alter all its puzzles to account for you reading one. You're agreeing to some constraints to get the gameplay out of the game. Constraint, lack of freedom, is an essential part of games.
It's not asking "what does freedom really mean", it's saying "whatever you think it means, you're already giving some up, so what do you think the right balance is?"

How do you deal with the fact that this game hates you for playing it

>>716195159
it doesn't fortunately. in fact the spooky voice man was hyped that my soul was shining against the knight, and seam was my personal hype man when I beat the knight without the mantle.

>>716195159
The game loves me, a handful of characters might hate me but I don't particularly care.

>>716194581
Doesn't stop you from attacking him either.
>BUT HE SAID
I know what Sans said, what matters is that since Papyrus won't kill you, no matter how cruel you are to him, killing Papyrus is unjustifiable, that's why Sans will only ask you if it's your responsibility to do good with your power if you kill Papyrus.
If it is your responsibility, why did you kill him or at the very least proceed without bringing him back? If it isn't your responsibility, then you don't deserve the power that you have.

>>716195159
>How do you deal with the fact that this game hates you for playing it
By realizing that I'm a white guy born and raised in the 1st-world, so I don't have the same psychotic problems the pathological liars here have

>>716195335
How did you get this picture of me you fucker

>>716195159
Chapter 4 is one of the most genuinely uplifting power of friendship shonen schlock (complimentary) in a recent video game, without irony.

>>716194792
Ummm nevermind plz forget this post my friend from the discord said dont tell ppl about it. There really smart I think there the same age as me but some time they get rly mean if I say I might not be gay but if I say maby ill think about it there really nice :D

Clearly, Deltarune’s message is that modding and fangames are bad!

>>716190161
>Fixed a visual issue where after defeating Tenna, it was erroneously showing texture data instead of static
huh, i thought it was intentional

>>716195482
gerson's fight is the opposite of that

>>716195482
deltarune's message is that you have to have sex with faggoats (faggot goats)

>>716195507
Anonymous, keep it cool and see sarcasm for what it is.

>>716195284
while sans cant do shit about it if he doesn't like me having this power, its still a fair point. That said at the end of the day, even if every other monster deserved to be stuck underground which, within reason they do not deserve that but still even if all of them did, papyrus deserved to see the surface.

>>716195482
Bad? No. You're free to install mods whenever you want, but it's up to your discretion. Only you can make a prediction as to whether you'll care about feeling like you "really beat" Deltarune if you play a mod of it.

>>716195159
Kris will get over it. Honestly can't wait to see the eventual heart to heart scene where we have a conversation.

>>716195159
That exact detail turned 2 seconds of a door opening 1 inch into a good scene

>>716195159
This game (Kris) hates you (the soul) for playing it (existing in it)
That seems about right. It's not like Susie will recognize you and your feats. It's not like the Vessel will return to give you a rightful body to enact your will with.

>>716195136
>A puzzle game can't stop you from looking up a walkthrough, nor can it alter all its puzzles to account for you reading one.
not to be pedantic but it totally can. i only say this because i was just thinking the other day how sometimes developers do a dick move and randomize puzzles and solutions in games specifically to foil walkthroughs

>>716195127
Are you autistic

>>716196039
I was going to mention that there's a bit of an "arms race" there but the point is unless you've got some kind of miracle engine that can alter the rules of every puzzle in an unpredictable way for every player, there's going to be SOMETHING to document.

>>716196109
where do you think we are?

i hate the undertale community so fucking much it's unreal

>>716196109
I'm pretty sure I'm not.

>>716196236
At least it's a real community and has 0 shills

>>716196192
For me I don't know how i'll feel when i kiss a guy til i do it so i might try it and see if it feels weird and see if im gay hopefuly so i can get more likes on the discord

>>716196236
the only Undertale community I can tolerate is /utg/ on /vg/, the rest of the Undertale fans I find on Tumblr are completely insane and I want nothing to do with them

>>716195507
irony poisons a story
oh, ralsei's hat? gone. (laugh) mike? here's three of them! look, this one even has a schizo corkboard. (laugh)

>>716196285
/utg/ is fucking awful and has been for years, uty surprisingly has one of the most enjoyable communities at this point.
>>716196273
its somewhat bothersome that you are clearly using this opportunity to genuinely roleplay this fantasy of yours.

>>716196285
it might be a slightly different brand, but /utg/ is also completely insane

>>716196256
if a game has no marketing budget (which it does), the fans are the shills.
the porn in particular.

>>716195136
One option you always do have is to turn the game off. But are you gonna do that? No. (laugh)

>>716195159
Then why did my SHINING POWER light the way for those dumbass kids? We're the fourth party member and the protagonist of this story. This world needs me and I'm helping it with my anime powers

>>716196429
if all fandoms are shills then i dunno what to think anymore

>>716188310
>how dare you have fun and be immersed in a video game

>>716196358
Explain how you feel these things are related more explicitly, anon.

>>716196524
give him frodos wig and he will look like Elijah wood

For me the reason i love Undertale so much is i can drar in Paint and it looks like its realy from the game. Here's my OC but PLZ dont copy because i been copeyed of before wen other ppl copeyed my >:(

>>716196603
i personally, and autistically, feel that every aspect of a story that directly references the community or community in-jokes, theories, etc. is a net negative and that kind of ironic humor (no, it isn't literally ironic, but 'irony' is rarely used to refer to actual irony including in gerson's text unless you think he's talking about writing stories where you bring an umbrella on a sunny day) should be excluded whenever possible, especially when such jokes are only able to be added because the story is taking 15 years to make and were clearly not part of the original draft because they didn't exist yet. you can say they're minor silly jokes that don't matter, and they are, but it still rubs me the wrong way, maybe even more than the whole rose/dot/spiderweb snowgrave switch-up. it just bothers me.

>>716187896 (OP)
A gay game was unnerving? Noooo.....

>>716193927

>>716191759
copium

>>716196802
CHAOS REIGNS

>>716192627
I say this and look like this

>>716196729
I think I can give the mike thing a solid pass because toby grew up around that kind of fandom stuff with the starmen.net forums. maybe it was too on the nose but it felt like it was done with a fondness I can appreciate
>>716196802
while I love undertale/deltarune, I can respect that choice of game.

>>716196571
Now you're getting it, anon.

>>716188458
literally rent free

>>716196802
omg that's really scarry... this made me cry but heres a sneak prefew of my game im making in Paint

>>716189883
>le i posted it again

>>716196729
>no, it isn't literally ironic, but
I would never have made the connection that just referencing the community in some capacity was "ironic". If you're directing anger or spite towards your community, that's irony, because a game is fundamentally supposed to be an attempt to share something, and how can you share with someone you're seething at? And also evidence of a possible case of what you might call "irony poisoning", since you're lashing out at someone with a work that they're not supposed to like in the first place and thus can't hurt you by disliking.
But just acknowledging the state of the fanbase never struck me as ironic unless it somehow came back around to being a part of the direction of the story itself, which is obviously wrong, cart before the horse level.
Basically, I get that they grazed close to being worthy of complaint, but to me they didn't hit that point. Am I making sense?

>>716190161
When did this come out?

>>716190386
>There’s a very solid chance he doesn’t even know how it should end
This is bait, right?

>>716193658
Embrace futas
best of both worlds

>>716197060
i interpreted the ralsei hat thing as 100% spite since there were so many people going "why does ralsei look like this, why does he have pink eyeshadow, put the hat back on" after chapter 2 and if it was written then it might have been topical then and we're only getting it years later. the mike thing is whatever i guess, yeah.
>Basically, I get that they grazed close to being worthy of complaint, but to me they didn't hit that point. Am I making sense?
as long as you say that they came close, then yeah, makes enough sense. different people have different levels of acceptability for this type of thing and i guess mine is just lower than others'. i don't want the artist to talk to me while the work is being made, even if i'll listen to the breakdown afterwards, i just want the whole damn thing at once, as close to 'in a vacuum' as it can be

>>716188886
Kennedy Cartoons, I understood the reference

>>716190161
>they actually nerf the knight
yeah, the final boss is definitely gonna be so piss easy now
as for the anon's question, yes of courseno mantle, no revivemints, and no HoldBreath too

I'm getting sick of posting this, I wanna do some more animation edits instead

>>716197257
I think thats a fair view on it. I think you are somewhat right on the hat but it falls within a tolerance for me, but I can see from that angle how these things can be frustrating.

>>716197040
uh oh, mintaroo meltie

>>716197320
omg this is scary why do you like to give ppl nitemares

>>716190318
>>716190386
Making this shit on rpgmaker would be far harder than making your own framework. I'm guessing the reason it takes so long to make has to do with thematic and plot execution than anything else. That type of creative output is difficult to rush, especially when you have the crushing expectations of toby's fanbase.

>>716197335
shit i forgot
the "chuffing a fat dart" reference/line from ralsei is where i draw the line. that one just feels so goddamn forced i can't excuse it.

>>716193109
>>716190451
He doesn't actually want you to not do the evil routes, it's just playing with narrative.

>>716197390
personally laughed at that one but it is extremely self aware, as well as the "sus" joke. I think if it gets worse than that, then that is probably my personal limit before it gets to me.

>>716190161
>"nerf" the knight
>just made it so that you're actually damaged when you touch the sword instead of not
People would really rather just have the game be inconsistent as long as it meant they could gloat about how they figured out to navigate through the invisible hurtboxes.

>>716197365
I can't relate, whenever my brain tries to make my dreams scary I get super powers and destroy everything. My dream self is too powerful for me to have nightmares.

can someone post OP youtubelink, shan't be playing at the moment

>>716197574
undertale makes me cry and pee the bed its so scary

>>716197645
I'm sorry man

>>716197713
Umm didnt anyone ever tell you not to assume a gender

>>716197583
https://youtu.be/FNX5e3GFuo4?t=1006

Timestamped, but 16:45 if that doesn't work for you

>>716197763
It was the royal man, as in like mankind. Be whatever you want to be, dude.

>>716197812
Im they/them like chara my hero

irony poisoning is bad for you

>>716196802
Gary loves you

Chara is even more cooler then Mario cuz he has a freaking NIFE

>>716191275
>Flowey: lmao you're a secondary and a pussy
>Anon(whose a fag): AIEEEEEEE MY DAY IS RUINED!!!!!!
thank you for the laugh, anon
really means a lot to me

How do I make Sands forget you're genocides

>>716197993
u have to press the A button ever steps for 500 steps and beat sans thing 50 times in a row and go and somthing I forgot then you go in a secret room and read his diary and u right in the pages that I forgive chara and he thinks he rote it then u press a every step back to your house and go to sleep and wen u wake up he says say I forgive you and its a rly sad part that made me cry

>>716197765
what a nothing burger

>>716194413
>insta-kill piercing swords
>hard part
low risk high punishment
homing swords just ask you to move ANYWHERE, it's lenient even with the spinning circle
i think i ate shit on starstorm more often just because i put myself into a bad spot

>>716191275
To be fair, Flowey is absolutely right.
At least I get the job done.

>>716198320
I've been playing shmups for ages and have a good amount of 1ccs but I have still never figured out how to dodge "rapid string of aimed bullets from all around you" attacks

>>716191275
Based Flowey calling you a cuck watching from the cuck chair lol

>>716198396
You can notice which set of them is aimed directly at you and simply dodge only those. The rest are no immediate threat.

>>716198396
in case of homing swords specifically, it's just about using observing the larger environment and not focusing on the one small "safe" spot (which doesn't exist obviously), basic qte shit
see a sword -> move perpendicularly or in any direction if you hold breath -> don't get cornered
sword circle makes your play area smaller, but it is not much different from the regular green box conceptually

>>716198516
But they're all aimed directly at you

>>716198774
I'm talking about the second phase version of the star vacuum thing, where it leaves behind all those red seeker bullets

>>716196668
it's ok Toby, you tried your best don't worry about it.

>>716197567
He just made the attack inconsistent in favor of the player instead of against the player. Some of the swords can literally cover the entire soul and still not damage it because of the nerf. It's the easiest attack of the Knight's to no-hit now when it originally was the hardest one.

>>716198981
Oh shit wrong attack sorry

>>716191164
7th Stand User
RPGMaker autism with Chrono Trigger level of various endings

I'm just getting around to weird route now, what was the thing that was changed? It was something kind of rapey right
Also, what was the bug with dess's closet that took forever to get fixed?

>>716199406
>what was the thing that was changed
If you're in the weird route on chapter 4. Then when you're in the vents at the Holiday residence you can exit the vent through a dialogue box while Noelle talks to Kris. Then you can possess Kris and put the ring on the Doe. Again

>>716199406
When (You) raped the doe, there was a visual of a rose losing its petals, which changed to a glass cracking/thorns growing effect.
The closet bug was that there used to be a barely visible second Kris sprite in the closet when he entered it.

>>716199770
>When (You) raped the doe, there was a visual of a rose losing its petals, which changed to a glass cracking/thorns growing effect.
Was it changed to something or just removed entirely?

>>716195136
>dude rules and conventions in art
feels like extrapolating a bit too much from a funny animal rpg

Your thread is less active so you get a smaller Susie

Can anybody tell me why this board is full of so many faggots?

>>716200384
Nah I'd say it's extrapolating the right amount. Toby is smart.