The box. You opened it. We came, now you must come with us.
>>716214387It is a means to summon us.
>>716214323 (OP)why did he tore the sexhavers in half
>>716214387https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R88QdlIlg-E
>>716214484he tends to do that
>>716214484He was just exploring the further regions of experience with them.
>>716214484>hePinhead is unironically the og they/them, at least in the books, pinhead is not a male or female, but androgynous with a very feminine, borderline angelic voice inducing euphoria. But for the film they went with a dude, and he's pretty iconic at this point, and the game is inspired by the film.
Anyway, to answer your question, it's cenobites' way of giving people immeasurable pleasure
>>716214870age restricted video
>>716215249There's literally a sex scene right at the start of the video, lol.
>>716214870Looks actually pretty good.
Nothing groundbreaking but someone who like the first 3 movies I think it's for me.
>>716214323 (OP)How good is the new Hellraiser movie?
>>716215041>giving people immeasurable pleasureThey make getting literally split in half and spitroasted pleasurable?
I never saw the movie or the books.
>>716214323 (OP)Am I tweaking or did they manage to get Doug Bradley back to do the voiceover?
>>716215249https://player.vimeo.com/video/1102301023?h=63404c4147
>>716215406Yes, you're in trance-like state where your sensations are turned up to 11 and ripping your flesh off and your body apart makes you bust, you aren't in pain, but you're basically orgasming perpetually. Hellraiser is a pretty fucked up franchise, but then again, it's written by a mentally ill faggot, not even kidding, that's also why it's so fucked and based, gives the guy a lot of creative freedom.
>>716215434They did.
>>716215435I like that sex part
Will it be Agony but good?
>>716215367Infinitely better than all the direct to video trash that preceded it.
>>716215729>Infinitely better than all the direct to video trash that preceded it.alright, I will watch it, though I like the trashy hellraisers.
>>716215729>>716215367You basically want to watch a couple of early movies, the latest one, and ignore everything in between because all those were dogwater.
>>716215406the pain is so intense that it becomes pleasurable
I think the victims they take just suffer horribly. Frank never said anything like "yeah actually it started feeling good after a while."
>>716215249>age restricted videothen stop being a child?
>>716216140I am 23. Google wants me to show them my passport to see age restricted videos
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>>716214323 (OP)so, which video game character would be spared by them?
>>716216228not gonna show em
>>716216280Heather Mason for one.
>>716216310why do you even have a passport then? need it for a lot more than just getting through airports
>>716214870>>716215353it's great to see that not only is this not some dogshit asymmetrical game, but it'll even have combat which is pretty rare in horror games lately
>>716215367The main chick was pretty hot for a Jewess. The Pinhead was okay, didnโt add anything to the film, but wasnโt bad either.
>>716216425doesnt mean i have to send a photo off it to google retard
>>716215367It was crap
First 2 is where it's at
>>716215835>>716216659NTA but will I like any of the other ones, like Hellraiser 2, if I thought the first one was a bit meh? the body horror was great, Doug Bradley was excellent every time he was on screen, but everything else was just.. awful.
>>7162167613 is worth watching once. It has some cool scenes.
>>716216864I'm morbidly curious about 4 as well since it's funny to me that horror franchises kept going to space around tha ttime, and I like Jason X quite a bit, but I've heard 4 is downright miserable.
Oh, so this is why he got removed from DBD lol, it's gonna be a 1vX
>>716216761Just pirate this shit and watch all of them for shits and giggles. Some people seem to like direct to video b movies, even tho most seem to hate them.
>>716216981it's a single player-only game
he got delisted from DBD because Clive Barker finally got the rights to Hellraiser back, and DBD's old agreement was with the previous company. they have to re-negotiate everything all over again with Clive now. I'm sure he'll be back though.
>>716214323 (OP)>SaberOh boy. It'll be garbage!
>>716216981It's a single player horror game. No one would be this excited over multiplayer slop.
>>716214323 (OP)>now you must come with usSo it's based on the movies and not the book.
>>716217103yeah I probably will end up doing that. I went through every single Puppet Master movie two years back, and my god that series drops off a cliff hard after the third movie, which was the best one.
Curse of the Puppet Master was so bad I had to take a few month break from the series before I could stand thinking about starting up the one after, and that one managed to be even worse!
then there was Legacy after that, which was made up almost entirely of reused scenes from all the previous movies.. and then after that was Puppet Master vs. Demonic Toys and I was about ready to kill myself at that point.
>>716217164>It's a single player horror game.Good decision
>>716217283Well yeah, pinhead was androgynous and had a girly voice in the book.
>>716217283Clive wrote both.
remember that licensed moviegame slop gets delisted after a couple years, sometimes even 1. pirate it and fuck 'em
>>716217283Noone read the book by comparison.
>>716217643So? Not like it gets removed from your library.
>>716214323 (OP)is hellraiser just pure gore porn or is there actual substance?
>>716219931There's a bunch of substances. Blood, sweat, sperm, saliva,...
>>716215406The other anons are not entirely correct. It's not that the pain just becomes pleasurable because senses are cranked up to 11, it's that sensation and seeking sensation is so cranked up that the people experiencing it eventually can no longer tell the difference between pain and pleasure, and seek more and more extreme sensations to test the bounds of what can be experienced. Both the original book and the original movie make it clear that suffering that fate is pretty horrible until their mind breaks. In the book the guy ends up cumming so hard and so long it starts to hurt, and he experiences immediate horror to realize that is the closest thing to actual pleasure he is going to experience and it's been all of 30 seconds and the cenobites haven't even started in on him yet. In the book and movie he then talks about how it it is complete torture until things start to become dull and then, know longer remembering anything else, more extremes are sought. It should be no surprise that it is inspired by and somewhat of a critique of BDSM culture. It should also be no surprise that it inspired a quite a few popular culture species/races/cultures.
Fun fact: Clive Barker never liked calling Pinhead, Pinhead. He ended up naming the character the Hellpriest, which was also pretty weird because originally the Cenobites had no connection to Hell or a hell, they were just Cosmic Horror like sex club purveyors. But it seems like with Hellraiser 3 the idea that the Cenobites are literal demons of Christian, or at least Christian-like, Hell was pretty much solidified in both the public conscious and Barker's depiction.
>>716214323 (OP)Did Clive also write that comic where Pinhead saves a little girl from a rapist? She opened the box and believed him and the other Cenobites were angels, and he spared her, taking the rapist with him. Was that in character (meaning they wouldn't hurt clearly innocent people who have no idea what the box is) or completely OOC?
Imagine being Anthony Allen in that scene and having to be all like "damn, Clare Higgins, you fuckin' fine, all sexy with your tight body and horrific androgynous monster face. I would totally have sex with you, both my character and the real me." when all he really wants to do is fuck a 16 year old in his favorite pub. Like seriously imagine having to be Anthony Allen and not only stand in that attic while Clare Higgins flaunts her disgusting body in front of you, the favorable lighting barely concealing her stretchmarks and leathery skin, and just stand there, take after take, hour after hour, while she perfected that resting bitch face. Not only having to tolerate her monstrous fucking visage but her haughty attitude as everyone on set tells her she's A FINE TART and DAMN, CLARE HIGGINS LOOKS LIKE *THAT*?? because they're not the ones who have to stand there and watch her mannish fucking gremlin face contort into types of grimaces you didn't even know existed before that day. You've been fucking nothing but a healthy diet of blondes and brunettes and later alleged rape victims for your ENTIRE CAREER coming straight out of the boonies in Hartfordshire. You've never even seen anything this fucking disgusting before, and now you swear you can taste the sweat that's breaking out on her dimpled stomach as she sucks it in to writhe it suggestively at you, smugly assured that you are enjoying the opportunity to get paid to stand there and revel in her "statuesque (for that is what she calls herself)" beauty, the beauty she worked so hard for with Clive Barker in the previous months. And then the director calls for another take, and you know you could kill every single person in this room before the studio security could put you down, but you sit there and endure, because you're fucking Anthony Allen. You're not going to lose your future acting career over this. Just bear it. Hide your disgust and bear it.
What was the lore behind the Cenobytes again? If you didn't touch the box to release them, you'll be spared by them right?
>>716221425It's MOSTLY in-character.
You're talking about Comic Clive Barker's Hellraiser: Bestiary Issue #4.
Link here: https://readcomiconline.li/Comic/Clive-Barker-s-Hellraiser-Bestiary/Issue-4?id=122163#1
The girl in this story was afraid and just wanted help. The box doesn't care what you want. The box only cares that you want.
The cenobites aren't going to take some little girl that hasn't experienced life yet when they can get their hands on a true degenerate instead.
Check out this HP fanfic oneshot where Harry dabs on Voldemort using the puzzle.
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/2452681/1/Evil-Be-Thou-My-Good
I never thought we'd be in the timeline where hellraiser gets a good videogame but i'll take it. Now saber just need to get the rights to jericho and polish that up.
>>716214323 (OP)>Hellraiserah the wonderful abomination from the mind of one of the worst mentally ill faggots alive. wonder if the game is gonna be any good
>>716214323 (OP)>Took nearly 40 years for a Hellraiser gameHope some of the fans are still alive
>>716216115He says "some things have to be endured and that's what makes the pleasure so sweet". I think he did derive some mind raping pleasure from it, but the juice wasn't worth the squeeze and he wanted out.
>>716221527Innocent people can get caught in the crossfire. There's also a cringe Reddit misconception that the Cenobites are "good" or "neutral". Cenobites are slippery weasels that may lie to you and stab you in the back, when they're summoned they can leave or take people, they can even take the multiple people at their own discretion. It's possible to talk your way out of an encounter with them, but whether or not they spare you is entirely at their own discretion. So screw the Redditors who think the Cenobites are le ebin good guys.
>>716222869I think it has to do with them coming from "hell", which implies that they do something to sinners and punish wicked people.
That alone wouldn't make them actually "good", but it puts them into a "good" kind of corner, you know what I mean?
>>716219931What do you mean by "actual substance"?
>>716214870Sad thing is, if it didn't have the Clive Barker and Hellraiser name on that trailer, you'd have a ton of journos coming down to call it a gooner game when this is pretty normal stuff you'd see in a movie. A video game trailer couldn't get away with this alone without the association of the name Clive Barker, Hellraiser and relating the movies.
>>716221527Hedonist get bored of hedonism. They discover box. Cenobites show up and take them away. If they really like you, you become a cenobite. Otherwise they get bored with you and let Hell dicks around with you for eternity unless you manage to escape. Then they get all pissy that you're out there living as a literal skinwalker and start making deals with the random idiots you left with your box, and they're probably taking a random MILF back while they're dealing with you.
>>716221253>critique of BDSMwhat is even there to critique about a fetish. As long as it is strictly between 2<= consenting adults, who cares.
>>716223153This doesn't explain where the Cenobites come from or what they are like... at all.
>>716223082Xir's asking if the Cenobites are a metaphor for le grief and le trauma so xir has an excuse write a letterbox review so xir can blog about how the movie spoke to xir's depression and dark tormented past so xir can revel in the comments congratulating xir on how strong xir is for overcoming their struggles like the narcissistic cunt xir is.
>>716221527They're "angels" of an evil god that love to fuck with people who overinduldge.
>>716223305>As long as it is strictly between 2<= consenting adults, who cares.So you care if it's between 3?
>>716223334I'm upset that we've moved into a time period where neopronouns are used correctly on 4chan.
I know you're using them ironically to make a joke.
I'm still upset they've been normalized to the point that you know how to use them.
>>716223432>between 32 or greater. I don't care how 1 adult gets their rocks off as long as it is within legal parameters of their local law.
>>716223307In the book they're just interdimensional beings and their backstory is kept a mystery.
In the movie version (and this backstory was provided by Clive Barker, the author of the book himself, so he himself gave the Cenobites new lore for the movies) the Cenobite realm is governed by a god, Leviathan, which is responsible for creating the Cenobites. The Cenobites are people who open the box, so if someone has the right frame of mind and has been tortured long enough, Leviathan may promote them to becoming a Cenobite if it thinks they're right for the job.
As the sequels go on the Cenobite realm gets rebranded as Christian hell or something along those lines, when the aids got to Clive Barker's brain he even started insisting that.
>>716214870Thanks you fucking retard. I clicked this on work and now IT sent me an email to have a talk with them.
>>716223087Slapping the homo's name on the title as has really given this game carte blanche to be as degenerate as it wants without backlash from journos.
>>716223562but <= means less than or equal, just FYI.
But to make this clear because the numbers kinda confuse me:
If 1 person does it by themself it's ok?
If 2 people do it by themselves it's not ok?
If 3 or more poeple do it by themselves it's not ok?
Or what? I'm confus.
Barkers Books of Blood are a pretty great read (contains a fair bit of homosex tho) and I really liked Mister B. Gone (especially the audiobook with Doug Bradley)
>>716223305A critique of BDSM in the sense that you can think of it like the porn threadmill, which is why every porn site front page now has step sister and cuck shit on it when it used to be a lot tamer like 15 years ago. People who get into more deviant sexual practices can experience something similar where their desires and fetishes just grow and grow as a form of addiction or sensory greed. Humans have that capacity.
>>716223743<=number means less than or equal to number
number<= means greater than or equal to number
2<= means greater than or equal to 2
1 adult doing whatever with his fetish. I don't give a fuck and neither should Clive Barker
2 adults doing whatever with their fetish. I don't give a fuck and neither should Clive Barker
3 or more adults doing whatever with their fetish. I don't give a fuck and neither should Clive Barker
>>716223307>where do Cenobites come from"Not here" is the best description they should be given. The gaps in knowledge about them and their motivations is where all of the intrigue exist.
>>716215041In the movies he's revealed to be a british soldier from ww1 who turned to opium and asian prostitutes for his shell shock. Then he discovers the box
>>716223941I'm have a fetish and what I jerk off to remained the same for the 17 years I've been watching porn and masturbating. Like if I look at the porn I downloaded 15 years ago and what I download now, the only difference is the image quality but the overall content is the same.
I'm genuienly confused by people who somehow completely change what they get aroused by merely by watching different kinds of porn. I'm not even interested in stuff that doesn't depict what I'm already into.
>>716216115When he says "jesus wept" right at the end of the first movie i think he started to get it
>>716224002Just don't put math equations in sentences like it's normal syntax. Write like a human.
>>7162169314 was a lot better than people said it was but still pretty shit
A perfect movie for a hungover sunday
>>716224002>number<= means greater than or equal to numberFirst of all, I don't know any notation where you use the number before the signs, so if wanted to say
>2 or moreI'd use
>=2because an X is implied (x >=2)
2nd of all, if you want to flip between greater and less than, you don't move the number, you flip the sings (<,>)
3rd of all: this is all pedantry, as long as you're cool with people being kinky you're good.
>>716222325clive baker is fucking kino you plebeian
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKXnT8FVleY
>>716224385It's impossible to get past that characters' lines only exist so Pinhead can give a cool retort. Like that one guy going "I will cause you pain", who the fuck talks like that?
Looking back, who was in the wrong?
>>716223690no prob, glad to get you a free vacation
>>716223941Step incest and cuck are the fetish their search algorithms understood as a trend presently. Even as degeneracy go, it's tamer than rape, gangbang, incest rape bang like what the internet made me believe what Songs of Fire and Ice is. I remember "oops I got stuck" or whatever you call it being a trend not even a year ago. And that's not even putting cosplay porn of [FOTM] into the equation.
>>716222173I like Barker's stuff because he's a mentally ill faggot.
Takes that kind of mind to make actual fucked up horror
>>716224623I RECOMMEND
AMPUTATION
>>716214323 (OP)So fucking glad this isn't another Dead by Daylight knockoff that'll die in a few weeks.
>>716224657i didnt watch it, wtf am i looking at here
>>716224801You should, it's pretty good.
>>716221253There really isn't a single original thought in 40K.
>>716224801If I'm remembering right, idiot cenobite muscle unit can't understand how gates work. Gets stabbed by own magic box dagger and becomes their own sacrifice victim.
>>716224521The one written by Clive Barker was great. The one where the Pinhead got replaced by Kristy Cotton. Until Mark Millar took over and shat all over the story with his edgy too cool for school dialogue.
am i the only one that likes hellraiser 3?
>>716225008It was awfully fair of Pinhead to take it. Especially since she was doing pretty much whatever before that.
>what if we made the demon ladies slurp up vomit
>>716225064was that the one with the playboy art gallery thing? i liked that one.
>>716225064The soundtrack is fucking amazing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pW_cD47guIU&list=PLevZnwIIxgksOWU91KpyRgB47t8v9rKap&index=1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyd2gVPcM18&list=PLevZnwIIxgksOWU91KpyRgB47t8v9rKap&index=9
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqJzAeTb12Y&list=PLevZnwIIxgksOWU91KpyRgB47t8v9rKap&index=2
>>716224932Back in the super early days when it was just the tabletop, they fully admitted to stealing shit from other sci-fi and fantasy stuff.
Fairly certain there were a gazillion direct references to star wars, back when it was just 3 movies
>>716214323 (OP)Finally!
Take this thing with you, it don't belong on earth.
Not with THESE graphics.
>>716225185>>716225225The biggest complaint was how goofy the new cenobites looked and the big explosionfest at the end. Totally the way to end your psychological horror movie
>>716215434He sounds like he's been smoking 4 packs a day.
Old Man Balls > Puzzle Boxes
>>716225446I watched the first one and I had no idea wtf was happening, all I know is I would bang him in his slut woman form so long as I wasn't aware it was actually an old man with a ball.
>>716221253I've never read the book, but in the comics it is mentioned there are several different versions of hell. Pinhead, in his human form, even enters one of them.
>>716224932Of course not. It's all from Dune and other scifi works.
>>716214323 (OP)>Undying>JerichoI remember reading reviews as a teen that they were terrible to mediocre.
Are they actually good?
>>716225446I only watched the first Phantasm so far and at least as movies the Hellraiser films are far superior.
I am however very intrigued by the overall world building of Phantasm and might give the sequels a chance.
>>716221253Hellraiser 3 is when the movies went completely off the rails and never recovered.
>>716225849I don't recall anyone trashing Undying, it's an excellent game.
Jericho is.. okay. it deserves the mediocre scores. 10/10 visuals, enemy designs, but super repetitive. also always found it weird that it's not a co-op game when it feels like it was meant to be one.
>>716214323 (OP)this should be banned before release
>>716225185>>716225008The reboot lore was retarded, it was like a kid on the school playground making up rules for a game as they went along to make sure they'd always win. Not five minutes before Pintranny takes Chatterer, they establish Pintranny isn't obligated to take anyone stabbed by the box, so why take Chatterer to begin with?
>>716215041A eunuch is still a man, I suggest you take 5 minutes to stare into the void and reflect on how the troon mind virus has altered your way of thinking.
>>716225881The first Phantasm is a surreal incoherent artsy movie. The sequels are more accessible and coherent. They're basically road trip movies with the Tall Man gradually turning the US into an apocalyptic wasteland. It's a mix of Mad Max and Evil Dead. The original four movies are worth watching, only watch 5 for completionist reasons, 5 is complete dog shit.
>>716221527>What was the lore behind the Cenobytes again?Basically each Cenobyte is made up from eight Cenobits.
>>716225446Sell me on Phantasm. Watched the first one and was really disappointed. Very overrated.
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>>71622145610/10 that was a great read, but was he really accused of raping someone? I can't find a single fucking thing about this dude, and his imdb has jack shit in it.
>>716226359Second movie is better. Better paced, better action. Still surreal and confusing, but more fun to watch.
It's all downhill after that.
>>716221527Pretty sure they take off in a fucking spaceship at the end of one of the movies so all things point to it being an alien having fun with human beans.
>>716223087Hellraisers plot is literally about gooning though
>>716226271I love artsy, incoherent movies (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCoYazbA1Ic and Mad God are my favourite of that kind) I just think the first Phantasm wasn't really artsy/incoherent on purpose. The acting was just very stiff from everyone involved and the pacing wasn't very good. I still enjoyed it, don't get me wrong but I didn't feel like
>man this is too deep4me
I really hope they dont try and explain what leviathan is or have you talk to it god fucking forbid
>>716221456I hope I see more of your posts in the future.
>>716214484He just wanted to demonstrate that dying an agonizing death is the ultimate coom.
>>716214484Sex is midwit entry-level pleasure to him. It irritated him.
>>716214323 (OP)I'm 38, yet have never seen hellraiser.
>>716226720Most of Clive Barker's stuff is. People don't remember how controversial his stuff was when it was first released since he had very explicit sex, gore, homosexual, and other non-standard (for the time) relationships. The horror genre (books) was still pretty tame before his breakthrough
>>716224580For me, it's Midnight Meat Train
>>716227324Reminds me of that snuff hentai someone storytimed on /b/ back in 2006-something. It was just a regular sexy time, then suddenly they blow the girl's brains out and people were like wtf why
>>716227002Running through the maze and seeing it in the background would be enough for me
>>716227519I have forgotten about this movie but it used to be my absolute favourite when I was like 14 or so.
Still think an actual hidden cannibalism ring under new york would've been coolre than the monsters but it was still cool.
>>716227530>suddenlyShe quite clearly admitted that the JFK assassination got her wet and had already agreed to get domed with a low calibre revolver just before she came.
>>716214323 (OP)NO JAMIE CLAYTON
NO PLAY
>>716224623AAAAAAAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAOOOOOOOAAAOAOAOAOAO
>>716214323 (OP)>single player gamelame. no one wants single player games anymore. they should have made it asymmetrical multiplayer like dead by daylight or texas chainsaw massacre
>>716225698Everything stole from Dune. Half of Star Wars looks like it was made with set-pieces for a dune movie that didn't happen.
>Luke being a moisture farmer on a desert planet>Evil Emperor is prescient>Sarlac pit>God Emperor Jabba Atreides IIThe original, good Star Wars reads like someone copied Dune and just moved things around enough for it to be an original story.
>>716228651What do you mean how? I just never watched it.
>>716216115After awhile you morph into a cenobite. And they seem to enjoy it.
>>716228783do it now you plebeian and read the books.
so what do the cenobites do when no one opens the puzzle box and they don't have someone to torture?
>>716227458Same but a couple of years younger. I would catch bits and pieces of it when I was a kid and my parents were watching the movies in another room but never sat down and watched it myself.
>>716229220I think there's plenty of "souls" in their realm to have fun with.
Then again, they're extradimensional beings so time probably flies differently for them.
>>716221456>coming straight out of the boonies in HartfordshireFucking dying here m8
>>716229009she's not in it because its based on the first three films
>>716229220Working on their backlogs.
And I mean "backlog" in an absolutely literal sense.
>>716229220they design new puzzles
somebody has to do it
Hellraiser lore is so cool the idea that there are some other dimensional pervert beings that just exist to live in pain because it gets them off is so fucked up and weird in a good way that it makes me sad that really none of the movies have even properly explored how cool it is. First movie gets the closest, but its a very, very messy screenplay, 2nd movie feels more about the surreal and less about the pervert pain side.
This trailer is literally just a couple having sex. It's too tame, we need to be playing some truly degenerate coomer type that got himself into this situation.
>>716216186Why you still playing game manchild
>>716229663i don't think the general gaming public is ready to see some guy dressed as an anime girl wearing a chastity cage and getting railed by giant dragon dildo hooked up to a hydraulic arm
It's been a while since I watched the movie so maybe it was addressed but how did Frank manage to escape the cenobites and manage to stay alive as a skinless mummy?
>>716229945it seemed like a total coincidence that Larry's blood drips brought his flayed, destroyed, desiccated remains back to life when they absorbed into the floor boards?
>>716229803It's crazy, reading that and realizing that you could explore this, game or movie and it'd be like a truly contemporary and honest exploration into sex, depravity and porn abuse but we can't go there because it's too honest and too real to put out there. You don't even have to condemn it as some puritan fag, Hellraiser has never been from some critical puritan angle satirizing BDSM. Just genuinely and earnestly exploring this weird shit in horror form could be so kino
Instead its just pastiche, its remembering what once was an earnest dive into this stuff and now its commercial. I'd love a game or movie about some degen coomer that gets into chastity play, takes it too far and ends up in a fucking hell dimension for coomers
>>716229945Blood spilt in the site of his capture apparently is enough to revive him, but he needs to consume the flesh & blood of other men to become notskinless again
>>716230260Puppet Master deserves a game first
>>716219931The first two have substance I guess. I hate horror movies, always did because I thought they were all low budget skip. but until I saw hellraiser 1, I was blown away great it was. Yeah the franchise went to hell with the sequels but give the first two a shot.
>>716230473Nah Scream does.
>>716230473anon...
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1757610/Puppet_Master_The_Game/
no one plays it tho. the dev's other game Horror Legends was better and has Radu from Subspecies
>>716214323 (OP)question from a retard
does the box have magic that tempts/influences people to open the box
or is there just a known legend about a puzzle known by extreme hedonists?
>>716230636oh wow, didn't know this even existed. guess i'll give it a try
Is there a specific name for the coomer horror subgenre?
>>716230785The Eremite, who's essentially the keeper of the Lament Configuration, seeks out depraved individuals and approaches them with a proposition.
>>716224654He says something closer to "don't make us put some pain on you, pal". Should've said "we don't wanna hurt you" and it would've been far less retarded sounding.
>>716230785>does the box have magic that tempts/influences people to open the boxYes in that once you start it keeps you entertained by playing cute musical notes + giving a lightshow so you don't give up midway and keep solving the puzzle
>or is there just a known legend about a puzzle known by extreme hedonists?Yes, in the movies it's some occult item that the depraved will seek
>>716230173Consuming restores their flesh, but they never get their skin back. Frank had to skin his brother and wear him Buffalo Bill style.
>>716229220Sit around and watch Netflix.
>>716230934>tfw you will never be used primarily for breeding by an alien and killed laterhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ha2g5sCGrtg
I want these to be remade or a new one, but not by shitty nu-hollywood.
>>716231102>cute musical noteshow can i resist such a thing
so i this a 1st person horror shooter or what
>>716231687there's a reason this track plays when Kirsty is opening the box
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HsGgiQpP5QI
>>716231665just watched the first two of these recently, the first one is so good and then the second one kinda sucked. it was super obvious everyone was phoning it in, and I thought it was weird how Michael Madsen and Marg Helgenberger seemed to hate each other, like off-camera. meanwhile in the first one they're obviously all over each other for the role, but the chemistry between them was believable.
>>716231853The book makes a point of noting how completely lame the music is.
HELLRAISER, IN THE THUNDER AND HEAT!
>>716232207that does not answer my question in the slightest
>>716231665I want an entire game about Sil in her Giger form.
>>716214323 (OP)Man I need to watch these movies, all I remember is seeing a guy with an alien penis attached to his scalp chase some girl through cool looking hell when I was little.
>>716231883Yea, 2 and 3 are way more trashy, but I still like them. 1 is a really good alien movie, though. 3 is just weird with the ending and all.
It's like Wishmaster where 1 is fucking amazing and all the other are trash.
>>716232260Clicked on wrong post.
>>716231493I miss body horror and practical special effects.
>>716232327I actually didn't even bother watching 3 after being disappointed so much by 2, plus it doesn't have any returning characters like Michael Madsen.
1 really is a genuinely great movie, the reputation it has as being super pervy (when it's not even that much) made me go into it with low expectations.
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>>716232603Watch "the Void" if you like that stuff.
Cool indie film about cults and was inspired by The Thing.
>>716231493This is literally the absolute peak of practical gore effects, and I've watched way too much horror in my life. This is the best of them all
inferno wasnt bad
there, i said it
>>716224932Shut the fuck up about your faggy 40k garage nerd geek faggot. Nobody cares and we are all sick of hearing you whine
>hurr durr this is a 40k reference durr lolShut the fuck up for once. Not everyone is a loser who cares about that bland franchise made up for virgins
>>716232663Yea, I wouldn't recommend 3 only if you really want to see how it ends.
> the reputation it has as being super pervyWell for American standards, it's pretty pervy, especially for that time.
>>716225438Probably and he's fucking 70 years old now.
>>716232897There's no bigger red flag than someone having strong negative emotions towards something he instead just shouldn't give a fuck about.
>>716224932i can fix her (i can't actually fix her)
Event Horizon, the Yuuzhan Vong, System Shock and Dead Space has made it impossible for me to consider Hellraiser that's not set in space.
>>716233225there's a Hellraiser movie set in space, though.
lol dude like just don't be a giga coomer and don't open the box lol literally just don't open it lol
>>716233225>>716233276think it's Hellraiser: Bloodline also explains the origins story a bit.
>>716214323 (OP)Was it really necessary for Kristin to send to eternal hell to all those girls just for fucking her awful husband?
>>716231493Where is this one from?
>>716233609...literally Hellraiser 1, anon
>enemy is shouting GOD constantly in morse code
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlvga-_v2PQ
I'll just be over here waiting for the next abarat book
>>716233879this webm is from the new movie, I assume? it looks really good just based on that.
>>716234068The new movie is fine, the hate is overblown and it's the most effort that has gone into the franchise since the second one
>>716234146Previous movie intro was kino though
>>716233879I prefer the OG take on Leviathan, but even then it was cool to see it again in the new movie. Leviathan and the Cenobite realm/Hell are the most interesting parts for me.
>>716234146I agree. I think it was the first entry into the franchise I'd rewatch since a long time.
Is it just me or does Clive Barker have a thing for hooks?
>Hellraiser: Pinhead calls forth hooks on chains
>Candyman: Candyman has a hook for a hand
>Midnight Meat Train: The butcher hangs human corpses on meat hooks
>>716214323 (OP)>It's not another doomed multiplayer gameThank fuck.
>>716234068It has its problems, but visually it's the best looking Hellraiser and probably one of the best looking horror films in recent memory.
>>716234367Yeah, definitely there's some level of obsession.
>>716234542In a battle of logic or fists? Pinhead's not that tough, pre-cancer Jigsaw could probably fight him. Honestly Pinhead would probably just shake his hand. Love your work, man.
>>716234859>Pinhead would probably just shake his hand.Isn't Jigsaw anti hedonism?
>>716234542He did in Dead by Daylight.
>>716234542god, you made me miss old /tv/
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>>716225280Imagine, you open the xbox, phil comes to you as a cenobite and starts peddling indescribable pleasures of gamepass.
>>716234542Jigsaw would win purely through the shit nature of Saw's writing
>Pinhead gets captured by Jigsaw. How? Don't ask questions. >Even if Pinhead manages to escape it's only to find that the trap he escaped was actually just a trap that was set up by someone copying Jigsaw's work who created the trap but didn't know Jigsaw was just using the copycat's work to set a more elaborate trap because ???>Pinhead can't escape this trap. Why? Because Jigsaw said "game over" therefore the trap is inescapable so that's that ok???
>>716235283Why the fuck did he do it?
>>716234146It's just so utterly conventional and safe, just like the Netflix TCM and all those other remakes/reboots for the zoomer generation.
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On topic with the game itself, system reqs are out and its something my shitbox can run for once. Devs seem to know how to optimize, thank god.
>tfw solving the puzzle to chat with Pinhead but just get the meathooks instead
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>>716235795here's you meathook, anon
>>716235764They will not make the game look good at all. It will look like a pixelated fucking mess at minimum settings, just upgrade it man, your last chance to get a good powerful computer.
>>716235795>solve puzzle box>Pinhead shows up>"Hey buddy, I think you've got the wrong door. Leather club's two blocks down."
>>716214323 (OP)>You WILL open the box>You WILL see the sights we have to show you>You WILL like it!
>>716234932Yeah Jigsaw would hate and beat the shit out of Pinhead.
>>716236487You WILL hookmax and chainmax
You WILL become torturepilled
You WILL reject your cringe skin
The best Cenobite is confirmed to be in.
>>716234441>probably one of the best looking horror films in recent memory.The movie looks hideous. To simulate darkness they just toned down the brightness, every exterior shot looks like total ass.
>>716225579>I watched the first one and I had no idea wtf was happeningNobody fucking does
>ayys or some shit are reanimating corpses to be slaves on their home planet or in their home dimension and because of the high gravity there the corpses are shrunk to dwarf like height>some teenager and his older brother set out to stop it>except they don't because it was all a dream and the teenager is just coping with his older brother dying in an accident>except it wasn't just a dream because the tall man suddenly appears and grabs the kidI don't think even the script writer or director knew what the fuck was going on. Shit's an incomprehensible mess
Remember to watch Clive Barker's Nightbreed, it's basically Hellrasier. That guy cutting his own face off to join them. All things are true. God's an Astronaut. Oz is Over the Rainbow, and Midian is where the monsters live.
>>716237183Every movie is like that now, can't see shit. And you can't hear what anyone is saying before an action scene starts with LOUD (!!!!!!!!) ear-shattering noises. Supplementing video games with shitty youtube videos, I just quit movies like a decade ago. Shit sucks.
>>716237470Just downmix bro
>>716214323 (OP)is this why they had to remove the hellraiser dlc from the stores
The fuck is hellraiser?
Can i get a very qrd?
Are those movies? Is tbis game like Undying?
>>716237993no, see
>>716217128>>716238026how tf do you know what Undying is but not what Hellraiser is? or google?
>>716238026holy zoomerino with no media literacerino
>>716238136boobs of the year perchance
>>716235565>Jigsaw reverse engineers one of Philip LeMarchand's puzzle boxes>he uses his newfound understanding of interdimensional travel to invent a supernatural trap that springs as soon as Pinhead is summoned>"Captain Elliot Spencer, up until now, you have done nothing with your life except gratify your basest urges..."
>>716233065I can't take horror seriously when it's clearly just a bunch of tubes flopping about, like a macabre pool toy.
>>716238505Well a 2 second mute clip isn't a fair representation. With a score, sound effects and the context of the entire film it hits different.
This is more about the practical effects used since that one anon likes them.
I found that scene very disturbing but in a good way.
Bodyhorror is a favorite of mine and it's more about appreciating the creativity and the practical effects than being genuinely terrified.
>>716238157Because I play games, I don't watch horror media, it's retarded
>>716238782Yeah it's very retarded that you don't appreciate anything else.
>>716221253oh so it's just a movie about slaanesh like event horizon was about the warp
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>>716225280Here's a shit edit.
>>716214323 (OP)is harry damour gonna be in this?
>>716215041Your talking about the reboot whoโs a tranny
>>716239067Pinhead had to recall these after they showed a RROD upon completion.
>>716215367Huluraiser is terrible and not worth watching. It has a 10 year olds understanding of the material.
>>716239206Pity, some folks solving those would probably love to get a red ring.
>>716239159The reboot's pinhead is based on the book, not the film, pinhead was a "tranny" in the novel. The first film had its own take on pinhead which ended up being extremely popular.
>>716223690dude you're getting promoted
>>716239159Culture war obsessed brain damaged tourist retard
This Hellraiser stuff seems too violent.
There needs to be an Evil Dead/Hellraiser crossover where both are summoned by the same group. Have the Cenobites trying to act all professional while the Deadites are being a bunch of chaotic fucks.
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>>716240003What will ash do tho?
>>716228334If this is a genuine opinion you hold, you are literally Indian.
>>716224082I personally fucking love immense/endless spaces like this and would find joy in just walking around and exploring them to my heart's content.
>>716240176Make some misogynist comment at the open throat chick before weaseling himself out of dealing with either group.
>>716240176Ash could never solve the puzzle. He would have to be a regular bystander.
>>716240271Or just a based zoomer. Zoomchads strongly prefer multiplayer pvp and coop games. Millennials and other boomers prefer single player slop.
if pain is pleasure does that mean you can hurt a cenobite by fucking it instead?
>>716240742pleasure is pleasure, pain is pleasure also, there's no pain pain
>>716240651Zoomers are essentially Indians.
>>716240176Some physical comedy of him flipping about.
>>716240620>nobody knows who solved the puzzle an why they're after ash>it was one armed man>gib joke about how a one handed man could possibly solve the puzzle requiring two hands>cue ash's cut off hand
>>716241019What do you mean proof?
>>716241019>Proof ?Like, just read the book you retarded double nigger?
>>716241138it's just a bait, stop engaging with that retard, lmao
At what point is it OK for us to just say "No. I will not read the book. It's 2025, and books are the most primitive medium, not fit for modern human consumption."
>>716214323 (OP)They did a pretty good job with the Doug Bradley sound alike, unfortunately it's Saber interactive so the game will be low quality Eurojank like all the other recent movie adaptation games, but at least it isn't asymmetrical pvp.
>>716241367I would say about the time white people have become extinct
>>716241479Even the ancients knew oral tradition > the written word. Imagine fucking reading the Illiad. It's obviously meant to be shared with the spoken word.
>>716241591Imagine being so convinced about your own retardation. You can't be a troll.
>>716241591>Imagine fucking reading the IlliadOr instead of imagining, you could just, you know, READ IT.
>>716214870looks like Outlast Trials, pass
give me a game where I can chain and hook people to death
>>716214870Looks alright actually
>>716241892It's called Dead by Daylight, and people have been playing it for the past decade.
>further proof that creativity has been dead since 1980's
>>716241367Well to be honest I don't read anymore, I've only read one book this year and this was a dumb book about Miyamoto Musashi and the art of war or something. Didn't learn much from it and it felt more like wasted time than anything else to me. Most books I read over the years didn't leave a strong impression on me. None of them made me want to dig deeper into the subjects I was reading. Whereas I started photography after watching Godland (2022), started watching videos and reading stuff online about the occult after playing Lust from Beyond .... I mean games, movies and anything straight to the point and visually attractive makes me want to do things more than just reading books. That's how I work I guess
>>716238026Hellraiser is a series of loosely connected movies centering around the summoning of extra-dimentional S&M beings called Cenobite, typically led by the Hell Priest Pinhead with a puzzle box called the Lament Configuration for a big gory finale.
I highly recommend the 1st 2 films, 3 is fun in cheesy 90's slasher sort of way, 4 is Sci Fi madness, 5-9 were just generic horror movies that just had the Hellraiser IP shoehorned in to then just to keep the film rights from reverting back to Clive Baker, 10 is extremely low budget movie that tries to "play the hits" of the previous series, but was at least conceived as a Hellraiser movie, the 11th and most recent movie billed as a gender flipped remake, is more of a modern send up of the 2nd film with a slasher movie victims cast, the makeup effects are excellent for a Hulu movie.
My thoughts on the game is it's clearly inspired by the 11th film but is using 1st films iconic Cenobite designs. Hellraisers are typically not action movies
>>716241138>>716241260>>716241229Where does it say pinhead is a tranny or a they/them which wasnโt a thing back then
>>716240909Except zoomers are cool and creative and Indians are lame and copy
>>716240176Search for whatever macguffin page of the Necronomicon it is that will undo everything and then completely fuck up the incantation.
>>716242015full of troons, faggots and cheaters even ignoring all those problems you have to buy a DLC to be able to play as pinhead
>>716242727nta but "tranny" was never used in the description. the description was "androgynous" with a "feminine" voice
>>716225185I just assume he went home. I mean, what are they gonna do, torture him? He evens holds up his hands like "lol whatever.'
>>716241056>cue ash's cut off handLost it.
>>716241367I like books because they can depict scenes and events that would annihilate the budget of any movie.
>>716238961Where are my Khorne & Nurgle movies?
>>716243623The idea that books, or writing, are outdated is harebrained anyway. While it's an old as fuck medium, it still has many advantages and can do things that other mediums can't do. On /v/, the question why there aren't any movies or games that truly encompass Lovecraftian horror (the insanity etc.) is asked ever so often, and the reason is because that only really works in writing.
>>716221997read that one years ago, is pretty good
>>716214484Because he is based, death to all sexhavers
btw women owe me sex and I will continue to be petty and misogynistic until they give me what they owe me, which is sex. WOMEN OWE ME SEX!
>>716215041>>716239473>being from hell that wants to mutilate and torture other people for (sexual) pleasure is a trannyhow transphobic
>>716245130>order of the gashcmon now what is a person supposed to think
>>716239473Nobody cared about the book or the shitty remake though. People care about pinhead from the movies and Doug Bradley's performance
>having normal sex is now enough to get cenobites on you
Shouldn't the couple be sex degens?
>>716245235Wine, shackles, blindfold, and ball gag are shown about 10 seconds into the trailer.
>>716224657This movie was alright but I hate it because it was the first movie me and my ex watched together and she was a narcissistic cheating whore
>>716215367The cenobites look like rubber dolls
>>716240457You should check out the GMod workshop. Tons of maps like that you can explore like crazy. Most are 'liminal' but some are pretty cool like VoidPlaces or anything with abstract in the description.
>>716245508Holy vanilla, wine!
>>716214323 (OP)I don't have the screencap but I'm posting the thread
https://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/610470578/#q610470578
>>716214323 (OP)Kind of sad it's just more Hellraiser.
Stuff like Jericho and Undying really seemed like they were grasping at something that could have been great had the team or tech been there. I was hoping if Barker ever tried vidya again it would be refining those ideas or something new.
>>716216140Yeah, surrender your data to the jewtube people.
>>716217141They are THE best gaming company now.
Cope all you want.
>>716214323 (OP)I hope this doesn't get censored, I'm tired of faggots policing shit for grown adults especially horror
Yeah what do cenobites even do in their spare time?
Do they just stand still doing jackshit? The souls in hell are already being tortured so what do they even do or do they not experience time at all?
>>716247668Torture people, torture each other for fun, come up with new sights to show you, sharpen their torture instruments...
They're often depicted as a monastic order, so maybe they spend a lot of time meditating on the sublime union of agony and ecstasy or w/e.
>>716245130You are Iโll in the head stop over thinking shit he isnโt a tranny
No Angelique cenobite, no play !
Another thread and some faggots are obsessing about troons whatโs up with that
>>716239473The only realistic tranny role ever
>>716248720Pinhead isnโt trans
>>716249058Entrรฉes to some. Appetizers to others.
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>>716215835The only legitimately good Hellraiser movie is the first, it's a good creepy movie. The second one is nonsensical and slop, but has cool special effects. The third one is cheesy as fuck but there's a charm to those kind of things. The fourth one was going to be a really really good epic movie about the Toymaker against the Cenobites, but the studio meddled so much that the release is nonsensical and shitty. BUT you can watch the "restored" version of it on Youtube with the unfinished scenes stitched together to get an idea of what it was going to be and some deleted scenes for more context, and it's pretty decent that way.
>>716249393I think Hellseeker is neat.
>>716248763He's technically intersex in the book and movie 11
The Cenobites being people in their former lives is a movie invention
>>716238724I just rewatched the first two movies and honestly the effects haven't really aged well for the most part. Frank's resurrection near the beginning looked pretty good but that's about it. Also holy fuck in the second movie the script writer's understanding of how psych hospitals or hospitals in general work is just fucking laughable
>Channard walking out of the operating room right in the middle of open head surgery when he's paged over the intercom WHILE THE PATIENT'S SKULL IS STILL OPEN AND HIS FUCKING BRAIN EXPOSED>Kyle just casually trying to hand Kristie an entire bottle of sleeping pills near the beginning>that one patient in one of the padded rooms who's got a crucifix >Channard somehow just fucking walking out of the mental institute with patients and taking them home without raising suspicion
>>716214323 (OP)Hellraiser 3 is my comfort movie. I like them all. H1 is probably my favorite. I didn't think Bloodlines was that bad. Inferno was a good Silent Hill movie. I don't remember jack shit about Hellseeker. Didn't watch the others.
Started playing that piece of shit DBD because it had Pinhead in it. I will buy this game even if it's crap because I love me some Hellraiser.
God damn I love this retarded franchise.
>>716229009She's so hot
shame she snipped the dick off
>kills innocent women and force them to live suffering forever
>>716229220https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlWGQaFxWKI
Your cenobite form bros?
>Videogame controllers on my head
>Bleeding famitsu magazines on my cock
>>716239067Oh no thats great.
>>716214870>"Her box. You opened it. I came"
>>716240457But please, feel free, explore. We have all eternity to know your flesh.
>>716242727Did you know that concepts can be older than the current terms we have for them?
Like someone like you would have been called a cretin, or a subhuman some time ago; while today we merely call your kind "retards".
>>716245235It's heterosexual sex, which is pretty haram today
>>716214323 (OP)according to ancient canaanite art, the days of noah were the closest humanity ever got to the depravity of the cenobite realm
>>716245708If the movie is from 22 and she is your ex that means you can't have been together for more than three years, which is basically nothing for adults.
Therefore I conclude that you're some underage faggot who thinks his two month fling was a "relationship".
Don't take it too hard, there's plenty of fish in the sea.
>>716250862>InnocentBitch opened the box, should have read the ancient Cannanite terms and conditions before agreeing to them.
Admit it this is too fucking uncomfortable
>>716245235Opening the box is enough to get the cenobites on you. And given the occult texts strewn about, they know they're playing with forces they shouldn't be.
>>716252196Yes but unless you're literally a terminal greater ancient autismo you will have desire when opening the box
Also the box entices you into solving the puzzle further through cute sounds and lights to keep you entertained
>Hell Raiser
>you only Raise Hell by Hellraiser 3
>>716251989>finally get the cenobites to remove nerve harp>organs regenerate, wounds seal up>take in a deep breath, finally free of constant agony>laughing and crying with relief>giant fucking meathook from the heavens impales youHow do you respond without sounding mad?
>>716251989>>716252619should have chosen Love instead of Liminal
>>716214323 (OP)>open video game>figure collection quickly scrambles>I see Hellraiser over the desk>there's only 30 minutes>Figure collection quickly subsides>there's only one fighter left still playing with colorsWhat the fuck, /v/?
>>716251434Fuck off, Pinhead, I want to walk endlessly in impossible mazes and landscapes while my autism ensures I'm satisfied doing just that and nothing more, good luck waiting for my autism about this to run out.
hope it's as long as SH2 remake at least and not not just 6h or whatever, unless it has lots of replay value
>>716224580>Clive BarkerHaven't heard that name since that turd releases
>the pizza box
>you opened it
>we came
>>716214323 (OP)>buy physical copy>the package is a box>open it>they come
>>716255583Just don't open it, anon.
>>716255583Digital chads win again
Hellraiser 5 was a pretty paint by the numbers horror movie in spots, but also gonzo in others. And the summation at the end feels like an Outer Limits or Tales from the Crypt coda, which pushes it into being a halfway decent watch for that alone. Too bad 6 was almost a direct copy of the script, but making it a continuation of 2.
>>716221997There's actually a sequel to the fanfic using the plot of 6, and is pretty good.
why did clive not do anything more with tortured souls?
>>716216186>ZoomedYou're still a child
>>716214387We have such sights to show you!
>>7162168932, 3, and 4 are absolutely worth watching if you enjoy the first movie which is legitimately good. 5-whatever are absolute dogshit and were repurposed scripts with cenobites thrown in so the studio could keep the rights. Haven't seen the new one with Trannyhead.
>>716257982It's a slasher horror with the Cenobites thrown in, the budget is much higher than any other movie in the series and they stuck with makeup effects and mostly practical sets instead of CGI so it looks awesome.
>>716233980Based pic, looks like an OG and I'm stealing it to repost whenever I get an opportunity so fuck you and also thanks.
>>716215041>all the anons bitching at thisClive Barker was a pozzed BDSM enthusiast faggot. In case the themes of his works didn't made it clear, he was a deviant and a sexual freak and he didn't shy from inserting that stuff in his books.
>>716262510Hellraiser is a rejection of everything you accuse him off.
>>716262593The fuck does this even mean.
>>716214323 (OP)Please tell me it's a singleplayer horror game and not another DBD clone?
>>716262731I presume he's critical of things he saw in the gay community despite being gay himself
>>716215367seems par for the course like those direct-to-DVD ones that were generic horror films repurposed into Hellraiser
>>716262731nta but frank is a degenerate who's become bored with 'regular' degeneracy and is searching for even more extremes, the cenobites are positioned as the inhuman end point of that thinking.
>>716214323 (OP)Do I have a pinhead's mentality?
Since I was a kid I dreamed of taking someone, tie it to a chair and get an assortment of puncturing objects, from a thread to a needle, to a thorn, knives, glass and such. and start puncturing the subject's skin little by little to see how far can it take it until it passes out or becomes numb to the pain.
and I've only watched Hellraiser just last year for the first time eve.
>>716263587Do you want to do it to yourself as well? Then no.
>>716263902Nah, that's an emo thing to do.
>>716263994not cenopilled, will never see such sights
>>716263587No, you're basically just your average edgy teenager. You're undoubtedly a goth faggot who owns a trenchcoat, gets bullied a lot, and draws doodles of Ted Bundy or John Wayne Gacie in your school notebook. Also you clearly have no idea what the movie is about so when you say you watched the movie I'm willing to bet you just watched a death scene compilation on Youtube.
>>716230934I hate when people dismiss Species and call the movie Emanuelle with alien because she only had sex in 1 scene, It's not erotica
>>716264603far from it, just an average dude who wears comfortable clothes, none based on trends nor tribes.
all I do is watch movies, play games and listen to the everyday news. I'm not into any sort of popular trends nor I'm up to date with the latest pop culture.
and yes, I've just watched it for the gruesome scenes and just the first movie, I couldn't care less about the sequels since they don't look interesting at all.
But I might try and rewatch the first one paying more attention and commit to the rest of the lore.
>>716264824Who is "people"? At least here on 4chan chuds call everything "porn" that has an attractive woman in it. See: all the seething about gacha threads
>>716225064I lked more than 2 I also like 5 because it feels like sillent hill.
4 has some interesting ideas but i really didn't like the structure of the movie and the ending was meh.
never watched the others but i saw a clip of a recent one with some new dude the auditor. It looked....fine?
My problem with Hellraiser 2 is that Hell is just boring.
Sure the matte painting of the labyrinth looks nice, but it's actually just fucking empty corridors as opposed to the gory rusty kino from Hellraiser 1
>>716214323 (OP)I didnโt realize there was another thread madeโฆ someone make another one after this one is finished
>>716262510Isnโt that the polar opposite of the case? That Barker wrote the story because of the stuff he was disgusted by in the gay scene?
>>716252450>Die Hard>Not a single person dies with an erection
>>716267579Exactly. /v/ is retarded. The entire message of Hellraiser is all that kink shit is vile jew garbage.
>>716245214LMAOOO
>>716246259I mean I donโt see why thatโs out of the question. If this does well itโs entirely possible Saber or whoever else might want to revisit those two games or even work on a completely new project with him.
>>716246498>webmKek
What would happen if you were just a random person standing in in the same room as a person that solved the box?
>>716268286Depends on if torturing you would be funny or not
>>716249664itโs a movie invention but itโs also something barker always intended iirc and his idea
>>716251459actually chud you canโt say that anymore please refer to him as disabled or special thank you
>>716257982The tranny pinhead one sucks. They basically ripped of 13 Ghosts which wasnโt even a good movie
These movies are too violent. I don't like them.
>>716268286It's inconsistent
In the first book for example the nurse that checks on Kirsty after she opens the box doesn't even notice the cenobites there
On the movies the bystanders definitely notice them and then it's just random, in Hellraiser 3 Pinhead kills bystanders or turns them into cenobite just like Hellraiser 4, in Hellraiser 2 they need to open le box as well
>>716214323 (OP)Why did they release the trailer to this on the day of Ozzy Osbourne's death?
>>716214323 (OP)as a bonafide masochist i would open the box in an instant
>>716268452>13 Ghosts which wasnโt even a good movieIt's peak early 00s schlock, zoomer pleb
>>716232480What extension is this?
>>716268513The trailer came first. Ozzy died like 10 hours later.
>>716263587Well, Pinhead presumably has self-mutilated genitals and nipples. Are you into that?
closest thing to a berserk game. I'm interested
So do they only punish sex havers? If you were just a basement dwelling incel would they leave you alone?
>>716269148They punish anyone who opens the box and the only case they didn't is because it was some autismo girl that solved the box without any desire, just pure autistic function
The difference is degen sex havers are the ones most likely to look for the box and its promises of extreme sensations
>>716215662Something like that
>>716229769Why you still posting here manchild
>>716230260Soon hopefully.
>>716230589Iโm glad you saw the light brother.
>>716230598Just play DbD lol.
>>716232698I watched this. It was ok. One of the better horror films released in the 2010s (which saw a lot of slop).
>>716214323 (OP)>mindblowing gore is ok>but no nipples lolwhy are americans like this?
>>716223307Humans transformed by an eldritch horror.
>Pinhead: WWI veteran with PTSD.>Chatterer: Teenage male prostitute.>The Female: A nun obsessed with sin.>Butterball: Just some fat guy.
It will likely never match this hidden gem of the horror genre.
>no cenobite that's just the true form of a human based on liminal and extreme sensations
>>716269527for me it's how
>male cenobites all have names>female cenobite is just "female cenobite" like ms pac man, smurfette etc.
>>716229663>>716223614>>716221253I think the shift from creepy inter dimensional demons to generic demons from hell is a disappointment, the whole leviathan and Hellpriest angle is cool and all but it was so much more interesting when they were these otherworldly entities from a hellish place beyond that we had no idea of.
>>716215041 Books? Isnโt the first Hellraiser movie Clive Barker adapting and also adjusting the Hellbound Heart?
>>716214323 (OP)>clive baker's ____you know it's gonna be garbage
>>716270000Who the fuck cares, alright? It's like Star wars- don't question the autistic lore
>>716269492There is literally bare tits where you can see the nipples right in the beginning of the trailer. Get the dick out of your eyes fag.
>>716229009Can't wait for the blender animations...
>>716225579The Tall Man was a Civil War-era mortician who attempted to travel to Hell, only to be killed and possessed by an alien/demon resembling a golden sphere.
>>716243623The only thing I don't like about books is I suck at remembering what characters look like, especially when a character comes back after a few hundred pages of absence. It's not a problem if it has a movie or TV adaptation, but then that's where I override their intended appearance with how they look in other media.
What would they do if I smashed the box with a hammer or something?
>>716224932There's plenty you're just stupid.
>>716225698>>716225247Its never been shy about paying homage to other franchises, it wears its influences and references on its sleeves blatantly, and clearly something about it worked since others just wholesale copied them later on too but without any of the respect (Starcraft).
>>716238961Hellraiser inspired Slaanesh/Haemonucli iirc so yeah
What if you solved the box in a public place with 100s or 1000s of people around?
>>716250362Sounds like the first movie is still kino if the only criticism is outdated effects. Still havenโt seen the second one but I heard everything after the first drops the ball in some way or another so I guess that checks out.
give me the tldr on the lore pls. why does the box summon hell people? who made the box? the devil?
>>716270776You just condemned a whole bunch of people to be tortured for eternity.
>>716268452>They basically ripped of 13 Ghosts which wasnโt even a good movie
4chan to Some, Reddit to Others
>>716233225>the original not warp sequences for Event Horizon were lost in a Serbian salt mine and they never fulled recoveredWhat a waste
>>716271249No the lore is wishy washy. Sometimes only the actual person who solves it gets tortured.
>>716270372>Woman chopped to pieces>Nipples and vagina blurredI love burgerstan
I think these movies have too much gore. I dont like that sort of stuff in horror movies.
https://youtu.be/guDp4dKkRFU
Is Hell real? How do I avoid going there for all the bad things I've done in life?
>>716271534Who can defeat the Salt Mine?
>>716234859Pinhead is that tough. The guy is more or less immune to all conventional forms of harm. Going off his comic interactions John would probably strike him as a perfect victim.
>>716234932In his own eyes maybe, not Pinheadโs.
>>716234932That didnโt happen.
>>716235565Nothing like that happened in Saw albeit you can criticize it for being convoluted but thereโs nothing as egregious as that.
>>716271973just don't die or interact in any way with mysterious occult artefacts
being in the ICU for weeks after almost dying while in diapers, unable to even drink water & in diapers is the true Hell on Earth experience
>>716271973Is hell real? Look at how bad earth is, there seems to be a pattern with these things.
>>716214416EXPLORERS
OF THE FURTHEST REALMS OF EXPERIENCE
>>716272325Its over for me?
>>716271973Yes. Allow us to show it to you.
>>716226891>Mad GodBased
I have a love hate relationship with it because I love stop motion and most of the visuals but man it feels too silly at times
>>716235659the netflix TCM was genuinely awful though with like one or two cool scenes. hellraiser was way better but still had its issues.
>>716235764brokie problems
>>716236487>>716236783>>716239206kek
>>716271973In hellraiser or in real life? Hellraiser if you get sucked there you'll have to have someone bleed on your corpse then return and suck blood and steal their skin. Real life you have to worship Christ.
it looks cheap as hell, PASS
>>716214323 (OP)Alrighty as long as I'm cumming
>won't even have 1 million levels
Wow gayming sure has degenerated, crazy how a current year game manages to be less complex than a fucking NES game
Based to some. Cringe to others.
>>716223432>man: I consent>woman: I consent>doug bradley: I DO NOT CONSENT
laugh
md5: 46bbc24fbe64a8ae6bfcfe51c2b3a44f
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>>716217141Whatโs wrong with Saber?
>>716241382I donโt see why that would be the case. Also that is Doug Bradly. Dummy.
>>716228334>>716240651>>716241367>>716241591There is such a thing as making your bait too obvious you know.
>>716240909Don't be spiteful.
>>716241892>looks like Outlast Trials,and thatโs a good thing!
>>716250672Which CDs are embedded in his head, anon?
I only ever watched the 1st movie. I dont know the overall lore. Who even made the box?
>>716214387Demons to some, Angels to others.
>>716251167The scene where he's yelling and it's going up and down in pitch is unintentionally hilarious
>>716214323 (OP)Box? There is no box to open. The game is guaranteed to be digital only on PC.
>>716240742i have no idea what clives idea is,
but i interpret it as, all emotions and sensations, if unchained for the normative perspective of good and bad, can be 'enjoyed', by twisting ones soul. if you do this, pleasure becomes essentially unlimited -- an orgasms lasts, what, 7? seconds? heroin lasts a day before your body starts to mute it. pleasure easily becomes numb. but pains not like that. it lasts and lasts and lasts, it essentially never gets dull. so imagine if you can now consume pain as a form of pleasure, the intensity and the limitless duration.
but i dont think its as simple as permanently inverting your sense of pain and pleasure, but more like, stretching out and expanding your soul so that you can never conventionally experience things in one dimension ever again
i.e., you can appreciate 'pleasure' like getting your dick sucked, but that's just a small, isolated dimension
you have experienced being able to simultaneously experience and enjoy getting your dick sucked, your throat ripped out, your balls tickled, perceiving screams as physical sensations on your body, etc.
so, i think they 'can' experience normal pleasures, its just they are paltry compared to multi-sensual extremes.
at least thats the vibe hell raiser 1 had -- the other hellraiser movies were just like -- 'nah, its just hell and it sucks.'
>>716215406Cenobites are basically Slaaneshi daemons (which is ironic, because Leviathan is pure Order). 'Normal' sensation is utterly meaningless and only pain so great it's indistinguishable from pleasure or vice versa means anything to them.
>>716217283We see Leviathan in the trailer who doesn't exist in the books, so yeah.
>>716221527Hedonistic demons born of Leviathan, the God of Flesh and Order, whose autistic hatred of Life manifests through the Cenobites as a mad desire to catalogue every possible experience whilst steadily making others into the same reflections of the empty hedonism that the Cenobites represent.
>>716269527>>Butterball: Just some fat guy.basado
>>716268575>>716271272Iโm way older than a zoomer and saw it when it came out. It was never good. Itโs watchable but not good
>>716273465Like most of the great evils of the world, it was made by the French. Specifically a French toymaker named Philip LeMarchand.
>>716273585You get a box with the collector's edition.
>>716270021semi-decent bait
>>716270776very likely something like this would happen
>>716225446You think when you die, you go to Heaven.
YOU COME TO US
>>716232897embarrassing meltdown kill yourself sperg
>>716226172She wasn't obligated to, but the Cenobites doing that to each other is on brand - they explore every experience after all, even their own. And ultimately, not only is it technically a 'reward', but it absolutely doesn't matter in the end. Leviathan will just remake Chatterer regardless.
>>716249058>>716249372>>716251958Good posts.
>>716252770Why? That probably would have been worse.
>>716273898i have never read the comics or books but leviathan never made any fucking sense to me. god of order but he made the cenobites that are crazy chaotic demons?
its also confusing how in some manifestations, there are angels (and a heaven? and a good god?) and in some others the cenobites are just like, aliens (making leviathan technology?)
>>716274018in that movie wasnt the box originally designed by some satanist guy who wanted to summon a demon, which by the way also made no fucking sense because whats the difference between a demon and a cenobite
also that movie makes it canon that pinhead is doomed to die by being blown up in a space station
so thats good i guess
>>716274338Love will probably just make some bitches dangerously obssessed with you
Liminal literally meant he was in constant unavoidable nerve pain
>>716215653what does that have to do with the story though
>>716244002>On /v/, the question why there aren't any movies or games that truly encompass Lovecraftian horror (the insanity etc.) is asked ever so often, and the reason is because that only really works in writing.Nothing encompasses this better than The Midnight Meat Train itself even - the way the Father of Fathers is described could never be accurately depicted visually, so the film adaptation never even bothered.
So if you solved it in a football stadium during a game literally everyone there would get dragged in with you?
>>716274018Oh fuck that statue looks cool
>>716223334Kek.
>>716216468I wouldnโt say itโs โrareโ but we are slipping uncomfortably close back into the hide and seek era of the early 2010s with all this streamerslop liminal space Backrooms shit popping up.
>>716251167>implying anyone on /v/ is becoming a CenobiteIt's skinned cumrag status for us.
>>716274597the fact the box is usually sought by coomers wanting even higher pleasures
>>716263587quite an embarrassing post but thanks for your honesty.
>>716268895no actually that would be the berserk musou game.
do sex havers really grip their bedsheets during sex
>>716270776Depends on the cenobites summoned. If they're the ultra fucked up kind, then you've caused an unprecedented massacre. If they're more professionally minded, then only you are going to Hell.
>>716222173barkerโs one mistake was cameraman fuck that garbage
i watched the hellraiser for the first time a few months ago
great film
>>716225064The visuals are a slight improvement over the previous movies but that's about it. Aside from Doug Bradley, all the actors are kind of shit (most of the dialogue is pretty shit though as well so to some degree it's kind of understandable why they struggle with their line delivery). Also the plot becomes unbearably stupid towards the end after the Boiler Room massacre
>Spencer tells Joey Pinhead will eventually come for the box and when he does she needs to lure him into the window>So basically all she needs to do is chill in her apartment until he shows up>Sees a news broadcast (which turns out to just be supernatural fuckery) covering the massacre at the Boiler Room>Drives down to the Boiler Room because ???>Enters the Boiler Room and continues going deeper and deeper even after seeing piles and piles of corpses because ???>surprise it's a trap>instead of just running back to her apartment, proceeds to run basically fucking everywhere else in New York because ???>what should have been a simple task to destroy Pinhead becomes needlessly complicated purely because of a string of ???s
>>716225446>here's your protagonist, bro
>>716274429The Cenobites actually aren't chaotic. They're hedonistic, but structured. They covet pleasure and pain, but engage with it in the most mechanical and methodical way possible. Thry speak of passion and desire, but exist in a timeless and sterile dead labryinth. They're essentially biological machines that only exist to make more of themselves.
>its also confusing how in some manifestations, there are angels (and a heaven? and a good god?) and in some others the cenobites are just like, aliens (making leviathan technology?)In the comics, multiple Hells exist. A demon from one of said Hells closer to what we think of as the Biblical one meets the soul of a guy, finds out he was touched by Leviathan, and is so fucking disgusted he immediately kicks him out.
He looks really young.
25 at most with that smooth face, that's not really the face of a terminal coomer degen, so clearly the asian bitch was corrupting him for that big white cock
>>716252770I simply do not trust Leviathan and the the Cenobites definition of "Love".
>>7162259242 was already off the rails. The "everyone used to be human" thing is stupid, the "actually from hell" thing is stupid. The villain of 2 is IMMENSELY stupid.
I don't mind horror movies being stupid but it kind of sucks when the original premise was genuinely chilling.
>>716273446wisconsin death trip, short bus, and the fat of the land
as a person with anhedonia all this stuff seems so pointless and incomprehensible to me
>>716276305The sameness of life is what's dull to you. Come. We have such sights to show you.
>>716223690hope you got your promotion man
>>716276381no I cant be bothered
>>716227530>>716227882Can you guys explain to me what youโre talking about
Are they literally from hell? Like is the devil involved?
>>716276582It's "Hell" in that it's a torture dimension beyond all human experience, but it doesn't map to any conventional hell as we'd know it. If you take the comics as canon, then other Hells exist and demons from those find Leviathan revolting and automatically reject any soul influenced by it in any way.
>>716275504You mean the most badass Ice Cream Man in horror? Clint Howard ain't got shit on Reg.
>>716276582Depends on the continuity. Sometimes they're just interdimensional sadomasochists. Sometimes they are demons from Christian hell. Sometimes something between the two.
>>716269148Modern version of Hellraiser is a guy on SSRIs solving a web version of the configuration with the promise of doujins more vile than the shitting dicknipples drug mindbreak hard vore NTR that can't get his dick hard anymore.
>We have such tags to show you
>>716227519>>716227871>>716274725I loved the MMT movie. As a kid it fucked me up pretty badly like so many other horror movies my parents insisted on watching back when I shared a room with them but I still liked it even back then and *really* liked it when I returned to it as a teenager. The twist at the end sticks with me to this day. Is the book any good?
>>716276582they call it hell, but it's not the biblical hell
i mean it is essentially a alternate realm of eternal suffering presided over by immortal beings bent on the torture of humanity, but it's completely unrelated
>>716276582yes. or at least hell as we typically know it exists alongside them. satan/lucifer is real and pinhead actually gains his armor that enables him to like destroy planets in the novels.
>>716276927>Is the book any good?The book is very different and more focused on sueprnatural/eldritch/even more overt existential horror (America essentially only prospering by being the feeding grounds of a timeless horror) but it stands fine on its own. Go check it out.
>>716277095Sounds interesting enough. Guess Iโll give it a look. Thanks.