Thread 716471697

I LOVE VAMPIRE THE MASQUERADE:BLOODLINES!

>>716471697 (OP)
It's a pretty good game.

>>716471697 (OP)
2000s goth aesthetic is what's really what made it kino

>>716471697 (OP)
I like the original dev team too.

>>716471697 (OP)
Prove it and post you're are favorite track!

>>716471951
My man’s of course.
https://youtu.be/qakZ94ng1nY?si=ybzkTRY_mhjTxM2s

Fucking Jews upped the price and never put it over 50% sale anymore

>>716471894
cute girls in the art department with nerds and dudebros as writers/designers

peak development team

>>716471951
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HwKvAkBUBGE
handsdown the most underrated song in the soundtrack

>>716472037
What made him so based?

>>716472159
Charisma, plus he knew what he was and never denied it.

>>716472159
>saves his best equipment for his special cliental
>starts off selling a fuckin mac 10 one of the best guns in the game

>>716471894
boyarsky looking fat with an eff ayy tee
goddamn

>>716472464
In one of tim cain's videos he said that boyarsky was stress eating during the development of vtmb

Hello, /v/ you're up way past your bed time, aren't you?

>>716471894
>>716472058
How many of those foids were devs, and how many were booth babes?

>>716472754
this apartment's probably 3k a month for being in santa monica

>>716472159
>Knows he has a weight problem
>Just don't give a fuck

He knows what he is, and he's a rare helpful NPC.

>>716472754
https://debofnight.com/

>20 years later
>no game comes even close to it

no game could ever match it nowadays, studios are too big, and smaller teams don't get funding, it's a flawed game, but an absolute masterpiece in atmosphere
how do you cope knowing that games peaked in the early 2000s bros?

>>716471697 (OP)
I literally just finished my playthrough 30 mins ago. Last played like 15 years before that. Fun times, was nostalgic as fuck, recalled all the times I struggled and got lost and confused.
Btw, how are you.. supposed to fight Ming-Xiao? I went ham on her ass, chased her spawn down and whittled away at her for a good 3 minutes, it seemed that her HP bar was just not moving sometimes. Vision of death came in real handy, but I still had to pop 9 bloodbags (haven't had to use any anywhere before&after).

>>716473463
Guns are the easy route, specifically automatic weapons, get all of them. Blast the spawn the minute those lil motherfuckers spawn off and then go back to blasting her. Melee is more difficult but you can still pull it off.

The biggest problem with her bossfight is how small and basic the arena is, you can't do anything interesting with such limited space.

>>716473417
mid 2000's*

>how do you cope
I don't, I loath in sorrow

>>716472159
He looks past the Nosferatu PC's appearance and treats him like a person.

why the hell is this game still so expensive? I remember getting Deus Ex for like a buck years ago while I pirated this one because it was much more expensive. It's still $20 on gog and I've never seen it go on more than 50% discount, it's pretty crazy for such an old title

>>716474147
Bro just pirate it, the people who made it aren't getting any of that money.

>>716474179
I already did, I was just wondering what's been keeping its price so high compared to other games released two decades ago

>>716473417
I'm pulling for Inxile to deliver on clockwork revolution and all the features they are promising. Inxile also has a couple of key ppl from vtmb dev team

>>716474147
>>716474431
Activision

>>716473417
>54 KB PNG>20 years later
>>no game comes even close to it
Play The Nameless Mod

>>716473417
Bloodlines 2 looks like it's going to surpass its predecessor in pretty much every way, with the caveat of being tonally very different. It's way darker and less goofy and lighthearted. Bloodlines 1 is very endearingly camp.

>>716474956
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>716471697 (OP)
Fuck Sabbat. Fuck Anarchs. Fuck chinkoids. Camarilla for unlife.

>>716474956
Rik Schaffer being absent makes it irredeemable

>>716475016
>>716475021
Don't give the shill any (you)s and he'll go away.

>>716474815
damn that company to hell

>>716474815
Now that xbox owns Activision I wonder if they are willing to do a vtmb remake. A couple of troika devs are at obsidian and a couple are at inxile, surely a remake would be easy money for them

>>716471697 (OP)
I just want games that give me the same atmosphere with a memorable hub zone world at night. I tried asking for dirty urban decay games on /v/ and no one could give me anything.

I enjoy VTMB purely on the atmospherics level. I don't really have faith that The Chinese Room will 'get it'. They've already displayed that they're moving past the music like Chiasm and that whole direction. So already the new game doesn't reflect the mood anymore. VTMB will remain a product of the early to mid 2000s in general artistic direction.

>>716475069
>Rik Schaffer being absent
???

idk, i kinda want to try it, but it seems like a cheap 2000s tv show

>>716474956
It's not really hard for Bloodlines 2 to be better because it has the benefit of a 4+ year development cycle by a much less disjointed team. As a consequence it's trivial to have better writing, better voice acting, better combat, choices that actually matter, much better clan reactivity, all that stuff. Bloodlines is a good game, but it's egregiously unfinished, and the unfinished nature becomes more and more overt past the halfway mark.

>>716475507
>moving past the music like Chiasm
That's really too bad. I think the devs were out of touch and didn't realize how many people still listened to that kind of music. I've been listening to Skinny Puppy and Kidneythieves a lot lately and they would probably both fit the game.

Deus Ex is probably the closest thing to the hub at night that you'll find.
>American McGee's Alice
>Devil May Cry 1
>Silent Hill 1
>Earthbound?
Probably the closest games from around that time with a similar feel in some way. Seems like they're all industrial-horror in some way. I'm not sure why it seems like that style faded away.

>supposedly super scary
>just a bunch of random shit flying at you
Love the game, but Nosferatu lair was way scarier imo

>>716475341
Activision need Paradox's cooperation to remaster or remake VTMB. It's a similar problem to Prey 2006 and Wolfenstein 2009.

>>716471894
But those are 99% white people... that's so yucky and gross and problematic and a huge red flag urghhh right in my ick like can't they read the room and see how bad a look this is??

>>716472048
Troika is dead, feel nothing for pirating it.

>>716475969
>But those are 99% white people...
What has changed?

>>716475824
it was scary back when the game came out and during the first playthrough

going through it for a second or third time you notice it's a pretty annoying section where nothing really happens

>>716471697 (OP)
I love the first half of the game
The second half was a slog

>>716472840
get a load of this guy

>>716476067
>The second half was a slog
the only part i really had an issue with was ming's temple. even if you're a combat character the enemies there are so tanky. i didn't really mind too much else but it feels like your damage stops scaling appropriately at a certain point.

i was looking for a list of devs for vtmb and this came up lol

>>716476149
i quit my first playthrough in the sewers, the next time i played the game and finished, i specced into combat stats and i didn't really have a problem with any point in the lategame as firearms ventrue

>>716476040
There are no white people in the room.
Only British.

>>716474956
I wonder how much prostitute murder and smut videotape missions there will be in Bloodlines 2.

>>716476203
yeah i played malk first that was decent at combat using guns and i didn't have much trouble except with ming. i didn't even have an issue with the sewers and was surprised to see how much people hated it. but when i replayed as a gangrel it was a lot worse. protean kind of sucks and the big female monsters hit you as fast as you hit them in melee.

game balance can be all over the place depending on what you're playing even if you build properly.

>>716474956
Fuck off, go spam your game informer shit.

>>716476149
The problem with VTMB is not limited to the game turning into a combat slog. The writing seems to get much worse the further into the game you get, and by the time you get to Chinatown it's like the game is running on fumes. There's a reason the discussion of VTMB is so focused on Santa Monica because that is the hub where the game is at its best. After that hub everything begins to fall apart in ways that no amount of fan patches could ever fix. The game badly needed to have major sections rewritten. Or at least expanded because the illusion of player agency falls apart, you're just railroaded from one increasingly jank quest to another, and the increased focus on combat is just the cherry on top of those issues.

>>716471697 (OP)
It's a pretty unique game. I even have it in one of my vidyagem lists.

>>716476268
It's apparently very detective-focused. So I'm sure there's a bunch of grisly murders for you to investigate. (I assume you impersonate Fabien the vampire PI?) But I wouldn't expect copies of missions from 1 because they seem very averse to rehashing.

>>716471894
Never seen them before but thisbis exactly what I expected them to look like.

>>716476378
I honestly found the PC Gamer article more informative because it was a lot more focused on the dialogue and voice acting and stuff (which are all excellent). Game Informer's article was overly focused on talking about how awesome the combat, traversal and exploration are, and we don't play games like this for that.

>>716475813
>Deus Ex is probably the closest thing to the hub at night that you'll find.
Yeah that's true and i agree with that assessment. But if Cry of Fear was not a horror game then it would be VTMB, another close one. Not in the actual gameplay direction or monsters being around but the setting is perfect. Just add in a few night clubs and gothic industrial music and then it's the same thing almost.

>>716476626
I wish the Black Death on your mother. Now fuck off.

>>716476559
Oh, right. Bloodlines 2 takes place in modern day Seattle. Even more reason to expect this shit to be absolute fucking garbage.

>>716471697 (OP)
Hope you enjoy the threads you'll still be able to have until the "sequel" releases. After that the shilling will be in full force and every time you bring up the original you'll get a bunch of pajeets bombarding you with "actually it always sucked, play the sequel instead it's so much better".

>>716476596
Chad moore the bald guy on the bottom right looks exactly the same 20 years later
https://youtu.be/_Pv5YI_G0I4?si=mrS3a4HvNW2FPimJ

>>716476898
Brother that's literally happening right now. We're trying to have a comfy bloodlines thread and some faggot is forcing talk about the "sequel".

>>716474956
The only thing it's surpassing Bloodlines 1 on is the development difficulties.

>>716476626
>we don't play games like this for that.
One of the joys i had with VTMB was it's urban exploration. So that's not entirely true, it's not true for someone judging RPGs like the people who frequent codex.

>>716476717
It's Seattle as envisioned by British people who have never actually been to Seattle, sorta like Homefront 2 and its weird version of Philadelphia. It's very noticeable that the old version of Bloodlines 2 was made by people who actually lived in Seattle compared to the new team.

>>716476559
damn, she's so quirky!

>>716471697 (OP)
OP, in the future specify no BL2 talk allowed.

>>716476898
I don't think that's true at all. If anything the release of the sequel will have more people revisiting the original and wanting a remaster. This isn't a case where the sequel is a totally different kind of game so the new fans aren't interested. There's gonna be a huge normie uptick in interest in the first game.

>>716475657
>it's trivial to have better writing, better voice acting, better combat, choices that actually matter, much better clan reactivity, all that stuff.
Literally only the combat has any chance of being better.

>>716476985
The difference is that Bloodlines 1 released in a very rough state as a result of its development woes. This appears to be the complete opposite. Everyone who played it said that there was nothing to indicate it had any development issues.

>>716477071
Doesn't seem very quirky. If you were left waiting outside a detective's office for an hour you'd be pissed, too.

>>716477281
Didn't ask for your opinion, you retarded Pajeet shill now crawl the fuck back to your sewer

>>716471697 (OP)
I will never finish a non gangrel playthrough. I can get only halfway through playing Tremere or Malk waifu before I inevitably decide to restart so I can self insert as a Gangrel chad. Its the same issue I have with every RPG really

>>716477120
The voice acting is definitely better, or at least more consistent. And the stuff like clan reactivity and choices does seem to be hugely improved. The fact is, your choices don't really matter in the first game for the most part. They just didn't have the time/resources to make them matter.

>>716477316
>And the stuff like clan reactivity and choices does seem to be hugely improved
They literally removed the clans that would've played the most different and just replaced it with "we're brujah so we'll choose the aggressive dialogue option".

>>716477107
The point was that shills are going to shit talk the first game and try to revise history and claim that actually everyone always hated it. It has already been happening, it's only going to get worse.

>>716477305
What kind do you play? I like doing a tanky battlemage kind of character that uses guns and Animalism/Fortitude. Protean feels awful though, the animations are way too slow, I couldn't stand playing that.

>>716477468
Tanky Protean focus. I fully agree their melee animations are terrible but I love it anyway.

Smash or pass?

>>716477619
Smash daily

>>716477386
No, what I mean is that your clan status has a far greater impact on how characters perceive you. Characters care about what clan you are, how you dress, and how you talk to them. More critically, I think, you're not going down a railroaded story. For example, your clan has basically no impact on your relation with Lacroix in the first game. That isn't true in 2. Every character has their own perception of you, and how you talk to them, about them, or how you speak to others in their presence (and what you were wearing while you did it) impacts character perception.
>"we're brujah so we'll choose the aggressive dialogue option".
No, that's not how it works. For example, you have to think about how characters perceive the Brujah clan. The things you say will be interpreted differently because of who you present as. There's a lot of things Troika might have implemented if they'd had time, but simply aren't in the game or aren't executed well enough to matter.

>>716477427
No, people are just going to become a lot more frank about how bad the gameplay is, like what happened with Silent Hill 2 when the remake released. For years people tried to claim that the bad gameplay wasn't actually an issue. But yea, it really was.

>>716477468
>I like doing a tanky battlemage kind of character that uses guns and Animalism/Fortitude.

My brother that was how I played through as a Gangrel. Animalism is underrated.

>>716477712
The troika dev team vtmb button up stays on during sex

>>716471951
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCdOlcPY4P0

>>716477712
you seriously have to wonder what the fuck happened to adam sessler

>>716471697 (OP)

o/ HAIL

>>716478407
You mean to how he turned out later? highlighted the same thing, not sure which embed works.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjIpPUE8epA&t=411s

https://youtu.be/XjIpPUE8epA?si=GTsCH-m032qsK2G6&t=411

I'm not reinstalling I'm not reinstalling I'm not reinstalling I'm not reinstalling I'm not reinstalling I'm not reinstalling

>>716474732
No can't do my friend since they're under microsoft now

>>716480089
The character creator they showed off in their latest trailer is more soulful than most of the recent AAA rpg games

>>716471697 (OP)
Why is it that every day one retard wakes up and makes a thread for vtmb, owlcat, morrowind, new vegas, mass effect, and diablo? These are the most casual reddit games ever made. Why would you devote your life to thinking about such awful things 24/7?

>>716477907
You actually have that? If so, how come?

>>716482550
>These are the most casual reddit games ever made
I think that title belongs to Baldur's Gate 3

>>716483029
Not mine. Former troika dev posted a pic of it on twitter

>>716482550
better than the 500 gachaslop threads clogging the catalog

Bloodlines 2 looks like it's going to surpass its predecessor in pretty much every way, with the caveat of being tonally very different.
Let's face it, Bloodlines 1 wasn't a great game in the first place and aged poorly.
Dan Pinchbeck's genius will finally give Bloodlines fans the game they deserve.

>>716485723
2/10 do better.

>>716471697 (OP)
It was actually made in darkest period of World od Darkness series. It's a miracle the company survived.
>>716471894
Where's Tim Cain?

>>716485001
Here's the thing. It unironically isn't. The level of discussion is objectively and measurably much higher in umamusume threads, which is a much more complex game than VTMB despite being a gacha. And the sad thing is there are actually complex and interesting CRPGs, but you make threads on this movie games every single day. I'd unironically rather have gacha than CRPGs at this point, and I like CRPGs, I just don't like you, but you make 99% of the RPG threads and you make them every single day. It's really gotten quite bad. You are the worst poster on 4chan.

>>716476142
No one answered me. I wonder why that might be.

>>716486139
Not even OP but go off gachatard, hope that rant helped you cope with your gambling addiction

>>716486568
Nah, you need to fuck off. The retard making morrowind threads everyday is 1000x times worse than any gacha thread. I will take an army of them over a single one of you.

>>716486664
Ok buddy

>>716486728
Yeah, spamming an image doesn't give you a right to play goyslop every day. You post that so you can feel morally superior in consuming shit and being the main problem with this board, you are the worst and most ignorant kind of dullard.

>>716486834
Alright buddy, why don't we calm down with some nuggies and gachapulls, my treat?

>>716486927
Imagine if umamusume started with you just picking pips on skill page where only 3 of the skills actually mattered and it was the same skills for every character, and then you just slowly walked through a game where none of your input actually mattered and all you needed to do was pick up a fire axe and mash m1.

>>716486130
Not in the pic. Maybe he didnt attend e3 2003

>>716487139
Counterpoint: Gambling.

I dropped it after meeting the fat tit vampire chick because I assumed that was all I needed to experience

>>716486728
He's unironically right, these threads have gotten pretty repetitive and spammy. They were already circular cliques 10 years ago.

>>716487312
What of it? All good RPGs are built on dice rolls, not deterministic systems. Its literally probability management. (gambling)

>>716476717
>modern day Seattle
Oof, Im guessing its dead on arival then

>>716487465
Wow, I guess I never thought of it like that, thanks for opening my eyes anon

>>716471697 (OP)
Here's some cool tidbits of vtmb info from an troika dev.
https://x.com/Pappylicious/status/1680344519739592705?t=6Ch07XRVWGxyGhMuyPurLA&s=19
https://x.com/Pappylicious/status/1682942028576075776?t=cAdIrORPi59_xcJIGb33rQ&s=19

>>716471697 (OP)
/v/:
>FNV: non stop people calling it a tranny game
>is legit good and fun
>VTMB: literally an awful, ugly, boring, pile of trash that is only played by trannies, constant glazing

>>716472840
3 of them are booth babes.

>>716485723
This looks like something from 2015

>>716477305
>I'm a furry awoo Owu ~!
Ok, furry.

>>716486728
Are you literally unable to discuss anything without regurgitating memes and pretending you just made an ebin gotcha? Have you ever had a single original thought in your head?

>>716477712
Webb looks genuinely annoyed.

>>716478407
politics is a literal mental disease.

>>716488231
And I still want to fuck the Asian MILF dev. What were those booth babes doing? Did the agency have no one HOT to send?

>>716488274
Well you're wrong, it looks like a game from 2025 because it is Bloodlines 2 (due out later this year).

>>716488274
It almost literally is. This version of the game's been in development for at least half a decade.

Sex with loud british women

>>716488524
>the Asian MILF dev

She's the voice acting coach.

>>716476040
Looks like they have several Nosferatu in the team, now I'm confident.

>>716488201
Both of these are awful

>>716488350
Nah you're clearly the king of gotcha

>>716488889
You're telling me she's responsible for Nika Futterman's greatest performance? I already said I want to fuck her, you don't need to sell her harder.

>>716488201
/v/ logic in action: call anything with a cult following "trannycore" if it doesn’t align with your outdated taste, then turn around and obsess over it when it fits your flavor of autism. VTMB gets the oh-so-special treatment because it had goth girls and edgy writing two decades ago. FNV just had better staying power and actual replayability. Cope harder.

>>716473417
If someone made the game today, it would be banned off most stores and the game devs would get death threats.

>>716479834
Im reinstalling it

>>716473463
Flamethrower I think? Definitely guns.
Damn, I kind of need to replay this game I think, been a while.

>>716488554
Lighting looks good ,animations are not that good they look like freaking skyrim my man

Always gotta do a nonmalk, malk and a nossie run when I reinstall. Gotta be one of the most replayable games for me. Not many I can do a back to back

>>716491028
>Gotta be one of the most replayable games for me
How? There's no gameplay. Even the rpg mechanics are dumbed down for normalfags that don't play video games. This is one of those "finally a game dumb enough for me to play" anti-gatekeeping games.

>>716471951
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qctQqxb9phA&

such an ethereal quality to it the fact that it isn't in the base game is such a tragedy

>>716491139
Thats pretty much any “imsim” Its more about the sum of its parts and if you like it aesthetically.

>>716476521
>the people that like VTMB are coomers
Accurate.

>>716491871
Vampires and eroticism have been intimately interlinked sine the very beginning.

>>716477983
This is such a simple song but to me it's a masterpiece, how the fuck did this not make it into the game

>>716491871
VV manipulated me and I'm okay with that

>>716472159
Cuz he's fat Larry with an F-A-T , he knows he has a weight problem he just don't give a fuck

>>716479834
I never uninstall it, simple as. Every time autumn roles around I know it's time make some mulled cider and do some vampire larping.

>>716492587
For me it is the same amount of effort to reinstall it as to play it since I haven't had an internal DVD-ROM for like a decade and have to hook it all up.

>>716482550
Because they think the games are neat and want to discuss them.

>>716477305
For me it's always Malk, it helps that Malkavian is one of the two clans I've actually played for a Vampire the Masquerade Chronicle, the other being Brujah, but honestly I just like their play style. Dementation + Obfuscate melee build makes most fights hilarious, you just get to play around with whole levels of enemies and be a real menace. Plus Malkavian has the best dialogue trees

>>716482550
>Why would you devote your life to thinking about such awful things 24/7?
>Gachafag
We need to nuke Japan again, but first we need to gather all the weebs and invite them all to a special , all expenses paid trip to a specific city in Japan. The smell would be horrible, but once the nuke hits it should go away after a few years

>>716472159
Mercurio was more based, dude was ride or die after you help him one time, but Larry had Charisma

Recommend me some good mods for VTMB NOW.
I'll falling down a nostalgia-hole thanks to VTMB and FF7 threads.

>>716477305
As a clan I like Ventrue the most, I never got people saying they weren't good in the sewers. Obviously not as good as Toreador or a Brujah but it wasn't the nightmare people made it out to be. The only really annoying spot was trying to go through the Museum non lethally and Ming Xiao because you're so defensively designed you don't really have to the tools to break through her high defenses so the fight drags on.

Gameplay wise it's probably Malkavian Gunslinger or a Tremere Mage.

>>716494835
The Clan Quest Mod for the Sabbat path was probably the mod I enjoyed most.

>>716471697 (OP)
I wish more rpgs did a modern setting like this. Its a vibe.

>>716471697 (OP)
Still listening to the OST. First playthrough I played as a Malkevian and thought the dialog was just wierd lol

>>716471832
FPBP

>>716474956
I don't trust the Chinese Room to pull it off, looking at thier past work.

>>716474956
Ok Chinese Room dev

>>716474732
>Microsaarft
lol, lmao even

I always thought the spas 15 was just some gun they made up but there actually is a gun that fugly irl

>>716475341
>unironically wanting Microsaarft to demake Bloodlines
holy fucking reddit
>b-but the troika devs at obsidian-
they WILL inject tranny shit into the demake and you WANT that. you fucking tranny faggot, neck yourself.

>>716472748
>>716472464
in their interview boyarski was still getting emotional discussing VMTB's development. Guy got honest to god PTSD from developing the game.

>>716475813
I think an urban gothic vampire game can only function if it's set in the 90s like VTMB was. ''Goth'' isn't really a scene/lifestyle anymore, at least not like it was in the 90s

>>716474956
The original bloodliness 2 made by Mitsoda?
Maybe
The trash that's being made by the chink room?
Not a chance

>>716498496
Why? What was so bad about the devlopment?

>>716494453
Man if VtmB 2 wasn't such a shit how I would've loved to see Mercurio as an actually embraced Ventrue

>>716495553
>you don't really have to the tools to break through her high defenses so the fight drags on
Yeah, this rings a bell. Ventrue have good RPG tools with Presence and Dominate and Fortitude makes you threat with guns. And aside from having to quick-load the Xiao fight an unseemly number of times I probably had more fun with my Ventrue playthrough than my Gangrel one, since much more of the game was open for a (socially adept) Ventrue's taking.
And it's a cool clan! You don't have to be the stuck-up rich kid the archetypes make them out to be.

>>716498598
activision ramming their ass without lube. Were told to wrap it up, then had to wait because HL2 was supposed to be the first game on the source engine. So they had to sit on a half-finished game. Then they had to release a half finished game on the same day as halflife 2.

>>716498496
>think an urban gothic vampire game can only function if it's set in the 90s like VTMB takes place in 2004, and there are still alt / goth girls out there I live in a uni town and I've seen plenty.

>>716471894
I miss the times when games where developed by a small group of nerds.

>>716498665
>Mercurio as an actually embraced Ventrue
I wouldn't wish that on him.

>You don't have to be the stuck-up rich kid the archetypes make them out to be.
I mean, you could but why? Best part of being a Ventrue is being an asshole.

>>716498685
Laibon are cringe.

>>716498242
I'd actually prefer the Boomer rpg devs at inxile to handle the remake.

>>716471951
>>716472037
>characters that could not possible be made today

>>716471697 (OP)
>shit game elevated by boomers because of vampire lady on box art

>>716500261
back in my time bait used to be believable

>>716490191
VTMB is pure jank with shit writing
most unsatisfying exploration in a game like this I've ever played
tiny even for the era in which it was released
super ugly looking
need to constantly use console to get around bugs
the chicks in it aren't even hornycore, you interact with the hot ones for like 5 seconds and they don't do anything horny

>>716495553
>As a clan I like Ventrue the most

>>716502778
The rise of the merchant class and it's repercussions have been a disaster for western society. If you can't trace your lineage to a Patrician Family of The Eternal City, I'm not Embracing you.

>>716482550
>>716501449
You've never played video games, and you never will.

>>716472754
>no curtains
how is the PC not getting fried by the sun

>>716499627
>Best part of being a Ventrue is being an asshole.
Ventrue just like to be in charge they're not always assholes, and I kind of like Ventrue being actually competent and inspiring leaders not just people who need to be obeyed because they fail rolls all the time and fall into their clan compulsion like an unlucky loser. Imagine rolling low, couldn't be me

>>716503582
wooden boards on the floor
window

>>716471697 (OP)
Werewolf: the Apocalypse game WHEN?
And no, fucking Earthblood doesn’t count.

>>716503735
Sure but at some point, even if you're a very magnanimous and diligent Ventrue with your own people, you get to shit talk someone on the other side of the aisle or whatever rivals in the Camarilla you naturally develop.

>>716503735
Yeah, for me it's that "noble and/or ruthless" warrior" thing they've got going behind the scenes.

>>716503863
How would it be done? Because from what I hear about WtA it’s pretty different than VtM.

>>716504438
Beat-em-up with Pentex goons and gore.

>>716486130
He was busy working on Temple and Troika HR at this point, he only joined Bloodlines during the last six months of development

>>716491749
>Thats pretty much any “imsim”
No, Deus Ex is nothing like that and there's a billion different things you can do. VTMB is not an imsim, its a shitty casual action adventure game with shallow rpg mechanics bolted on.

>>716504438
Werewolf isn't that hard to adapt, hardest ones would be Changeling and Mage.

>>716506193
>beat em up
Fuck, I meant hack and slash. Just give me lots of combos, good maps and a wide variety of enemies to tear to bits. Maybe play with verticality so I can climb up and jump off of walls/cliffs/whatever in Crinos.

>>716491374

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIQffl3TtEo

Why are all the best game OSTs named "Festival"?

>>716475069
damn he's really not there huh? need so more rik tunes

>>716506341
nta, i agree that bloodlines isnt an imsim and calling it a fps action adventure is a distressingly accurate label but i dont think its shitty, its just very unique and maybe disappointing compared to the mechanical depth of arcanum and toee

>>716475069
He was on the Hardsuit version. I don't know why they kicked him off the Chinese Room one.

>>716506341
>its a shitty casual action adventure game with shallow rpg mechanics bolted on.
What a retarded take, it's a CRPG with meaningful skill checks throughout the game and there's nothing wrong with action adventure games either.

>>716500409
We need to go back to this aesthetic

>>716503863
>>716504438
Best I’ve come to it is, unsurprisingly, modded Skyrim. I’ve got three out of the five forms figured out.
>Homid
Basic human, obviously. Or whatever race you prefer, I suppose.
>Glabro
Unsure, best idea I’ve got is opening up racemenu and manually increasing my height and melee skill.
>Crinos
Werewolf form plus the Growl mod.
>Hispo
Don’t know, thinking of downloading a direwolf mod and using polymorphy on it. A vanilla solution might be the ice wolf but I don’t like the colour scheme.
>Lupus
Polymorphy mod to transform into a regular wolf. I chose the pit wolf since it’s a bit stronger than the normal version. Makes travelling quite fun, turning into a wolf and moving at breakneck pace through the wilderness. Crouching before transforming makes the wolf form attack whatever’s in front of it.

I hear some dude is remaking VtM Redemption in Skyrim. It could be fun to download that and use the above instructions to roleplay a modern day Garou.

>>716509121
Redemptrim got cancelled by activision

>>716471697 (OP)
I hate that there was such a short period in game graphics history where we got to have reasonable poly count meshes with high resolution textures, before PBR ruined everything.

Nothing beats the aesthetic of games from 2000 to 2005. We had finally gotten enough power to have character poly counts of 3,000 to 5,000 and we could use 1k textures, sometimes multiple, which was plenty of room to adequately paint detail. Every texture felt hand crafted with so much detail. Games really felt like art. The facial animations in VtM:B are still better than anything you see today in AAA.

The reliance on high poly sculpts and normal maps to fake detail that reacts to light has turned all modern game graphics into plastic, shiny toys. There's just too much going on.

I wish we had more time with the graphical styles of games like VtM:B before normal maps came and ruined everything.

>>716508187
Chinese Room and Paradox just wanted a completely fresh start from the Hardsuit version, and that basically meant jettisoning everything.

>>716509717
All of the downtown skyscrapers use normal mapping thoughever
Their geometry is fake 3D

>>716509406
They just name changed everything and carried on, did they not?

>>716471697 (OP)
>The estimated budget for "Vampire: The Masquerade – Bloodlines 2" is believed to be between $20 million-$25 million or $35 million
Instead funded network of hydrogen refueling station and nuclear facilities, we have wasted on DEI clarify trash.

>>716510653
>The estimated budget for "Vampire: The Masquerade – Bloodlines 2" is believed to be between $20 million-$25 million or $35 million

>>716506416
What I want is a Hunter the Reckoning CRPG more than anything. The GameCube game for it was was pretty cool but an actual RPG adaptation would be kino beyond compare

>>716498023
>>>/pol/511431872

>>716504097
>>716504003
>>716503735
>>716499627
>>716498685
What I find very interesting about the Ventrue is how they tend to mirror the elite of whatever era they are in. Obviously they made the pivot to mercantile power as their primary focus, but it's not as if the lords, ladies, and knights era wasn't its own pivot. The first feudal ventrue in europe were sometimes disparaged as "warlords", similar to how nowadays they get flak for being rootless commerce driven elites. But what's funny is the Ventrue never really changed, the world did and they just followed in suit to maintain their power. The Ventrue still engage in rites that were last updated back when Rome was a republic, and yet if you pay close enough attention you'll notice that despite how many "back in my day" elders they have, those same elders are still wearing suits.

Hell, at the end of the day their core argument is still "We should be in charge because it's better for everyone." While the statement does not come from any place of genuine concern, it is often true simply because their competition is so much worse. They're a wonderfully multifaceted clan while also having very focused and fleshed out themes.

>>716512338
I like the Lasombra better for being ruthless cunts, Ventrue are just egotists but have some level of honor while the Lasombra genuinely don't give a shit about anything but success

>>716471697 (OP)
cool game, the part with the vampires feeding off of menstrual blood was kinda weird tho

>>716509121
I guess what I mean is what would the general gameplay aspects be like? I mean I’ve heard that WtA is much more combat oriented than VtM which focuses more on the social and RP aspects. Also I don’t know how Garou interact with the world aside from knowing they absolutely hate anything touched by the Wyrm. Which is pretty much everything in modern society. I know there are outliers but I don’t have enough info. Part of why VtMB was great because you got to see multiple factions and conflicts that the Kindred have to deal with. I guess the answer would have the game be set in a rural area. Pentex will be the obvious antagonist but also have conflicts with other tribes, some shit with vamps, and maybe fae as well. Maybe put it in the rural south or southwest.

>>716475824
It's scare on a meta level. The game is on the Source Engine. Once you know this and you realize just what props can do to a hapless player on that engine, it's terrifying.

Although the developers also knew this which is why the flying objects are their own entity class with fixed damage, rather than simple props that put the player at the mercy of the physics engine.

>>716512942
The Lasombra love of backstabbing does fall somewhere between Sith and Skaven. I've had some bad experiences with Lasombra in play though due to players who only really see Obtenebration and don't want to engage with anything else the clan has to offer.

>>716471894
>Valve, please let us use your new game engine
>it's unfinished and there's no documentation? That's ok, we'll figure out how to use it ourselves

Holy based. Modern devs could never

>>716476040
Wait didn't they make Dear Esther? On the Source engine? Why aren't they licensing Source 2 to make this if they're comfortable with the engine

>>716513926
>Also I don’t know how Garou interact with the world aside from knowing they absolutely hate anything touched by the Wyrm
Well, the Garou Nation isn’t as much of a united front as they might like to think. They might share the same ultimate goal of saving Gaia, but each tribe has wildly different ways of going about it, some of them entirely counter to one another. The Glass Walkers, for instance, are Garou who embrace human culture and technology, seeing how powerful they have grown and seeking to turn that might against the Wyrm. This runs counter to the Red Talons, a tribe that consists entirely of lupus and think the best option is the complete extinction of humanity. Another example is the Get of Fenris and the Children of Gaia, with the Children preferring nonviolent solutions to problems - sometimes to their own detriment - and the Get having an intense warrior culture that views anything short of total annihilation of the enemy as cowardice.
For players new to WtA, some of the more modern-day tribes work well for an introduction to the setting. You can basically play a Glass Walker as a regular dude like yourself that can turn into a werewolf because he happened to have the right ancestry. Beyond that, look up the tribes on the wiki for a quick overview and the read more about any that interest you.
Matilda a cute.

>>716515796
Interesting, I’ve looked into them a bit. And I know there are different philosophies on how to deal with the Wyrm. I’m just wondering how you would place that into a game. People mainly know WoD for its urban horror stuff on account of VtMB so I’m trying to figure out a way to bridge the gap of having there be werewolves from all walks while not being too much.

>>716515254
To be fair shadow magic is pretty cool, but Lasombra being the most devious assholes in the entire World of Darkness is even more hilarious.

>>716516514
Placing it all into a game would be impossible with how expansive even a single splat’s lore is. I think the best idea would be to pick a location in the world and then extrapolate what tribes, Pentex subsidiaries, etc would have a reason to be there.

As for gameplay, I know it’s a “Skyrim with guns” tier comparison but I really do think an MGSV style game would do a W:tA a lot of justice. A big part of Garou life is basically hopping from one Pentex location to the next, killing as you go. A number of disconnected maps and a central Caern to return to could be a lot of fun. It would make the world feel expansive, like you’re travelling long distances between missions, with big open spaces for running/stalking in lupus and big clusters of enemies to tear apart in crinos. You could play it as lupus being stealth and speed mode, homid being ranged combat and crinos being hack-and-slash melee.

>>716474956
you might be actually retarded

>>716474956
recorded this fresh vid just for you

Has anyone here played the tabletop? I've only played that AI game.

>>716519863
Been DMnig since V1. I'm the "guy that runs Vampire" at the local club.

>>716520347
Do you still run it in the historical 1990s setting or are your stories set in 2020s? I don't think I could ever play a game set in modern times.

>>716519863
I run both - V5 modern and Revised classics games.
The former is perfectly doable with the right crew. But yeah, some players definitely tie ther setting to the era.

>>716471951
Does it count if it wasn't unused? Eh, I'm posting it anyways.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQC9sToSdmM
FUCK I WANNA HAVE SEX WITH DAMSEL

>>716488424
LOL

>>716520495
Bah, sorry, gotta bail, unexpected friend call.
Feel free to go to /tg/'s Wod general if you have questions. Could help foster conversation.
>>>/tg/96166620

>>716490191
Cope harder tranny, VTMB is literally a better selling game than New Gayvas

>>716518060
There's nothing wrong with enjoying a unique discipline, but the problem I have had is characters that are Lasombra in name alone. They don't act any different from a Brujah, but they have Obtenebration and use it for everything.

>>716519863
Played and ran.

>>716473417
>how do you cope knowing that games peaked in the early 2000s bros?
Masturbate and then play those games. There are hundreds of games from the 2000s and before that I haven never touched. In a way, I don't really need modern gaming.
>>716473463
The biggest problem I faced was that her tentacle slaps took out a chunk of my health in one fell swoop. So, my solution was to get furniture stuck under her arm, completely removing that from her arsenal. Then I just blasted away with guns.

>>716521085
>Fallout 3 above New Vegas
Wait... but /v/ said...

>>716474956
I genuinely want bad things to happen to you. I know you posted bait but this is just straight disrespectful

>>716476203
>>716476283
I never found the sewers very hard, just incredibly tedious.
>>716476521
>Red Alert 2
>Metal Slug
>Hotline Miami
Good shit. The only porn game I ever put time into was This Romantic World.

>>716521085
Steam charts:
current total players
FO4: 17k
FNV: 5k
VTMB: 80


yes

EIGHTY total players

LOL
the game IS A FUCKING MEME PIECE OF SHIT THAT NO ONE PLAYS

>>716472159
how many people here even know that he's literally getting pegged by the bar goth girl dominatrix that's getting maledom'd and abused by the russian mafia guys who nut on her face after she's done pegging him, lol. my nigga is anything but based, he's a living lolcow

>>716520678
She has anger issues tho

>>716471697 (OP)
I recently finished VTMB for the first time a few days ago. Absolutely tremendous stuff, the voice acting and speech animations are great and the atmosphere is just delightful. I got the ending where you side with the Camarilla but still take out LaCroix and store the sarcophagus like it's the ark of the covenant.

Any VTMB shitposts?

>>716524027
乗り込ん。

>>716523376
It's a niche 20 year old game made by a gamedev team that made like 3 games and went poof because they all flopped. Nobody is claiming it's a hyper succesful AAA game, but it's a buggy unfinished mess that has some pretty good humor, nice atmosphere, great artistic direction, and well written characters and dialogue interaction/trees that are fun if you like the setting. I personally never beat it without cheats since the game is absolute garbage in terms of balancing if you don't make meta builds, but I did beat it with godmode and noclipping through certain parts where I'd get stuck because of bugs or retarded combat, still is a better game that any Isometric CRPG ever made, and obviously better than any obsidian game except for kotor 2. If you are a bethesda fan you should relate to why people like it, since bethesda also has never finished a game and never released a polished game without bugs either, nobody actually plays bethesda games because they're good, they play them for waifu modding and because they like to turn their brains off and listen to some podcasts in background while playing a bad buggy meme game like FO3/FO4 that doesnt have any story or rp elements, so you can just treat it like GTA sandbox.

>>716488861
Wow, I never knew that she had pink shorts.
>>716498515
>set in the 90s like VTMB was
Really, I thought it was set in the 2000s?

>>716523376
Shitting on the original isn’t going to make people like the trash sequel, shill.

>>716508573
It's pretty rad.
>>716500409
If that's true, then all the people responding to the bait itt should be very concerning.

>>716471951
only those who have witnessed the true ending know
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxa_pZnARq0

>>716524784
The tabletop game was from the 90s but yeah the game itself takes place in the year it came out. They mention the Bush administration.

Care for a drink?

>>716524027
>Any VTMB shitposts
ppl used to spam "don't open it" in these threads

The ending would've been better if there was an actually antediluvian in the sarcophagus and served as a setup for a sequel. Shit was so anticlimactic, in retrospective now the game really had reddit/tumblrina coded writing in many aspects, the corpo bashing is so on the nose, and it never really makes sense for villains to be so dumb and cartoonishly evil and arrogant while somehow succeeding and coming as far in society as they are in the first place. Jack also gives such cringe im da jokah baby vibes too, at least Nines is a good bro and makes Anarchs cool despite Jack's cringe character. I still love the game but its really flawed, comes with the setting I guess, VTM is a dogshit franchise
>>716488861
sex
>>716491871
sex

damn now i remember why i replay it

>>716524539
How would the Yakuza cast fair against the Kuei-Jin?

>>716523376
It has a cult fallowing. It's not mainstream like fagout 4.

>>716521239
Playing a Lasombra as a Brujah should be a crime

>>716526006
>the corpo bashing is so on the nose
They didn't do enough, considering what the world became 20 years later

>>716525665
Her tits have been nerfed by the way. Predictably.

inshallah.
I hope you are all very excited for VTMB II and will open your wallets.
it will surely be a good game, you can trust me.
if you don't, you are kafir.
As-salamu alaykum to my malkavian brothers who lost their fight with the sun.

>>716526354
Who let the fucking Assamites into the thread?

>>716526432
Bro you can't call them that. That's their word

This is what they took from you: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xRCZePzzqM

>>716526006
>The ending would've been better if there was an actually antediluvian in the sarcophagus and served as a setup for a sequel
Hard disagree, Vtmb is the most interesting when it's a spy thriller/mafia story with vampires, Jack uses the rumors and superstitions of kindred society as a basis to set up the trap, that is more interesting than just another big bad monstr to kill.

>it never really makes sense for villains to be so dumb and cartoonishly evil and arrogant while
They are dumb and cartoonishly evil and arrogant because they can get away with it, because humans and weaker vampires are easily controllable and pushed around, imagine the average asshole middle manager with supernatural powers, imagine an annoying HR person that can magically dominate people.

i hope there is a disabled vampire in a wheelchair with vitiligo and fibromyalgia

>>716526880
with big tits

>>716526197
It's more satisfying to btfo a villain that's actually intelligent, dangerous, and a threat, than a spoiled midwit brat like LaCroix. Also, I'd argue that making light of how dangerous the 0.01% hyper elites are by portraying them as idiots is initself insidious and subversive, as it fools the masses into thinking they could easily defeat them by playing their game, and also constantly putting the idea into heads of people that they are incompetent and not dangerous so you don't need to worry and act now. Results in people like Tim Cain and Leonard Boyarsky working for Microsoft the biggest corporate company in the world and making games like the outer worlds and clarifying multiple times that they aren't critiquing capitalism in fallout or the outer worlds and that they love their corporate masters and worship money. In fact all of escapism in itself is subversive because it's created exactly to passify the masses from rebelling and destroying the system. It's a double edged sword. Games should treat topics like this more seriously, nothing as disgusting as virtue signalling and gas lighting of the working class by larping about defeating the corpos by saying "rich people dumbos and poopoo bad haha, pay the fuck up and give us money now paypig" in a video game. More kino game would be moreso something that constantly demoralizes the player and reminds him of his weakness and inferiority compared to the corporate and rich overlords, so he gets angry and frustrated enough to do bad things in minecraft or something along those lines

>>716526569
Oh boo fucking hoo, the nocturnal predator that feasts on the blood of the living can’t handle being called a name.

>>716506193
>Pentex
The original, cooler, corpo niggas.
Umbrella was only a pale and soulless copy.

Nosferatu best clan

>>716526949
you are just like day of the rope schizos from /pol/, the revolution will never come, the market system is able to adatp to its internal contradictions and absorb any would be vanguard, Marx was wrong, get over it

>>716527235
That health insurance CEO went down pretty easily. Remember that's all it takes.

>>716526853
I just never get a feel that LaCroix is someone worth respecting and fearing, it just makes no sense for someone in his position to display like zero strategy or leadership capabilities or even any manipulation and gaslighting skills. It's obvious from the get go to the end he's just a vapid immature asshole, and he shows like no redeemable traits, be it physical or strategical. I get that "ventrue and camarila... le bad" is like all of VTM and VTMB, but c'mon man, at least give us something to work with to make the ending where he gets BTFO satisfying rather than "oh that's it?"

>>716527396
CEOs are just like officers in the army, one is downed another one steps up seamlessly

>>716527641
what if all of them were killed. millions of them.

>>716524027
I've played the game twice, and I'm pretty sure I got the same ending both times let LaCroix blow himself up and then the Anarchs come in to greet me. The only difference was that the first time I went at it alone and the second I had the Anarchs help.
>>716525361
The actual first ending I got was opening it like a moron, but that was a genuine misinput. I loaded a save from right after I killed the Sheriff.
>>716523979
Angry sex with Damsel.

>>716527718
The problem is that people who aren't CEOs then become CEOs

>>716528126
They get killed too

>>716471894
>Only 2 browns and ones an Asian woman.
No wonder it was so good.

>>716528439
Where the fuck do you see 2 browns, retard?

>>716526207
Still would. I dig the high class escort vibe

>>716528174
and that's how you get the millions of deaths every time

>>716527847
Playing Monopoly with Damsel so she either has to lose or participate in capitalism

shame that BL2 is going to be serviceable at best

>>716526880
Any elder worth their vitae would push such an abomination into the sunlight at risk to their own personal wellbeing.

>>716525092
nice ass, malkav

it's such a shame this never made it to the game.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6--0qHvhXw&list=RD_6--0qHvhXw&start_radio=1&ab_channel=RikSchaffer-Topic

>>716527718
>>716528126
>>716528174
>>716528761

>>716525092
Imagine Strauss comes to the tower to find out what the fuck happened only to see the fledgling breaking it down with a Garou over Lacroix’s twitching body. What would he even do at that point? He’d have no literally reason to expect a werewolf would be up there. Could Strauss 1v1 a woof he wasn’t fully prepared to face?

>>716531814
aren't elders actually superior compared to the typical Garou?

>>716491374
i love this track but i also hate how it replaces this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYpg8bqKbW0
in the unofficial patch

>>716485723
the dutch angle while feeding makes me want to vomit

>>716532298
Depends on how old and prepared Strauss is, as well as the garou in question. After a certain point kindred > garou (see Caine, methuselahs and antediluvians) but I feel like Strauss is at the point where it’s much less clear-cut. Remember, Hardestadt the Younger, a 6th generation Ventrue with four dots in fortitude, got his head blown off by a bog-standard shotgun because he didn’t see it coming. Strauss may be a powerful Tremere, but Thaumaturgy needs prep time to really shine, and unless he rolls with anti-garou spells on principle I think a werewolf in the one place he’d least expect one would at the very least give him a run for his money.

>>716533698
>Remember, Hardestadt the Younger, a 6th generation Ventrue with four dots in fortitude, got his head blown off by a bog-standard shotgun because he didn’t see it coming
He was weaker because of the Withering though, that was pretty explicit plot point.

>>716485723
Close, but no dice.
The shill isn't retarded enough to plainly state how better 2 will be, he usually just hints it and gets less and less subtle as people call his shilling.

>>716532565
Man, I've been playing UP for so long, but also haven't touched the game since like 2020, because I remember Smaller God playing twice, but Festival never.

>>716485723
>(pleasurable moan)
thx for spelling it out

>>716474956
>Bloodlines 1 is very endearingly camp
So was Resident Evil 4, and now the remake is soulless corporate slop.

>>716524027
nice, I finished my first playthrough like 2 months ago I think. went with the sabbat ending since it seemed fitting for tremere somehow

>>716507856
They're using some of the music he wrote.

>>716533882
You’re right. Still, I stand by the fact that the surprise would give even a weaker garou a huge initial advantage.

>>716526063
The average Kuei Jin is weaker than the average Kindred, but the Kuei Jin just outnumber them because asians are bug people. Kiryu and Saejima would one punch and the jin would explode into a mass of gelatinous entrails. Majima would carve the sharkman into fish fillets.

>>716471951
hollywood no contest
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ff1DjBe3LOM

>>716472159
Nietzschean characteristics

>>716477619
Not a single pass

>>716533698
There are so many Thaumaturgy paths, how would we know what kind of powers he has access to?
He could insta teleport out of there as soon as he saw the werewolf or throw lighting.

>>716471951
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6--0qHvhXw

>>716482550
Tranime poster, of course, is retarded.

I just want more vampire/gothic horror themed games.
Why is this type of setting so rare? It's an established "vibe" everyone knows about, but it seems to get very little actual representation as a main theme for a game.

>>716536054
>Why is this type of setting so rare? It's an established "vibe" everyone knows about
because nowadays it's just called a soulslike by unoriginal philistines

Vtm was cool, but I really want a modern Redemption game, another party based CRPG where you create a cotterie, recruit companions and shit.

>>716536054
Castlevania kinda petered out as a franchise and it's big revival would've been the show, but it was pozzed garbage with modernized dialogue and literally zero atmosphere.

>>716494453
Why couldn't we fuck him?

>>716536382
And who would you have make it? Owlcat?

>>716536525
I recently played some owlcat games and I disliked them strongly, I don't know what people see in them, they feel like dungeon crawlers not CRPGs.

>>716519863
Played.
Honestly, TTS aren't my thing and if you ever want to play you should temper your expectations that a session would run like a VtMB roleplaying game

>>716536382
There is this modding project
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNcGzzrn4_U

>>716536710
Good to see you again, queen