Come home, white man

>>717248485 (OP)
might come back if they add druid. some more gameplay variety would be very welcome

>>717248485 (OP)
>paying to beta-test
lol.

>>717248485 (OP)
Not until they have actual leagues with challenges and rewards.

>>717248485 (OP)
>dying your hair LIKE A WOMAN
Not my ombre

I wonder how much money I could've saved through the course of my life not buying shitty games

guys you don't understand DARTHMICROTRANSACTION who collab farmed every poe streamer and asmongold to beocme famous says poe2's 0.3 patch is the BIGGEST PATCH EVER (the second content patch ever btw)
IT'S THE BIGGEST EVER

>>717248485 (OP)
I would come home, if they actually provide some fucking content.

>>717248485 (OP)
Remember when they were claiming 6 months for full release?
Niggas aint even finished an act and they're missing most characters and ascendancies. Absolute clowns.

>>717248485 (OP)
No. In Chris I trust.

>>717248485 (OP)
I can't believe I actually got rug pulled into buying this game, seeing all the poe1 monkeys crying actually made me believe they made a good game.... Never again, I learned my lesson.

>>717248824
5 years MINIMUM until we get some barebones early access alpha piece of shit.

>>717248485 (OP)
I will
thank you

>>717248485 (OP)
no mmo/gacha/live service game deserves to be my main game

>>717248867
welcome to the poe1 monkey squad

>>717248485 (OP)
What are your predictions? I'm gussing it will have shadow and marauder (2 ascends each) and a new weapon type like swords. No druid, no flails

>>717248745
Yeah, why would he lie about it

>still no druid
>still no act 4,5,6
>still no swords

>>717248824
>>717248879
Chris is making a tabletop game, like Erik did. It wont be a digital game
>>717249281
They wont add shadow without adding mines, they are inseperable

>>717250368
>Chris is making a tabletop game
Holy fuck that's cringe.

>>717250435
His two passions are MTG and Diablo 2
He already made a D2 clone so he's gonna make an MTG clone now

>>717248485 (OP)
give me all 6 acts and i will

I'd respect Chris more if he made a card game. His hiring post said they should have a knowledge of d2 art and systems or something. It implies its an arpg which is wierd

>>717250636
It was an art role, i dont think anything in that hiring post specified it would be a digital game

will return IF
>complete endgame rework
>duelist or shadow
>daggers or swords
>loot gets added
>descendancies removed
>sanctum and ultimatum removed

>>717250346
Whats so special about druid exactly? Shapeshifting classes never interested me

>>717251437
>complete endgame rework

This plus basically anything new will get me (and we basically have Act 4 + Unarmed Monk confirmed)

However without an endgame rework, will probably skip.

>>717251437
Sanctum is wonderful in PoE 2
I think people hate it just because its one of the ways to ascend. But its basically a strict upgrade to Sacntum in PoE 1, which I already loved

>>717252026
compared to poe1, yes, I just personally hate the honor system in an ARPG.
I never bothered getting a 3rd or 4th ascension cause the challenges became a chore, and the perks I'd get from them felt more like punishments than rewards.

>>717248485 (OP)
poe2 is dogshit lol

>>717251902
Nta but its something new, hopefuly with interesting mechanics, plus druids are cool.
I expect all the other characters to just reuse mechanics from poe1 but I also half expect that the shapeshift will be just a reskined weapon swap.

>come home white man
>there's not a single white male you can play as
No thanks I'm good. Insane how in 2025 a game exists where you can't change your skin color or character sex.

>>717251902
But what if you didn't eat breakfast this morning?

>>717252545
Mercenary

>>717251902
it's been a while since a crpg has done a druid that keeps it's form permanent and not a timed buff

>>717253271
But whats the point of the base class? I sort of dont get why youd want a permanent shape shift. I mean its just basically a reskinned ascendancy because im assuming you're gonna be permaformed in whatever ascendancy you choose, so whats the point

>>717248485 (OP)
I predict it will be a shit flop

>>717248485 (OP)
twitch drops!
2 subs = pet!
new class guys everyone login!
and then 2 weeks later it'll be dead because poe2 has fundamental design problems they refuse to fix

>>717251437
You forgot a mechanic unique to poe2, revamped passive tree, removal of state stacking and giants blood, redesign of timeless jewels, buffs to minions so they don't die when you walk off screen, hotswap between controller and keyboard, in game trade house with all items and affices supported.

This game is a dumpsterfire

>>717248485 (OP)
>White man
This game is 100% chinese.

>>717253701
Also do your skills change? If so whats the point of skill gems, is it just gonna be trigger gems?
Albeit it makes a lot more sense in PoE 2 with their new system, where they attach skills to gear and ascendancies so I guess that would make sense, but which weapon would they be locked to?

>>717248485 (OP)
I got my money's worth from the initial release but I'm not coming back until 1.0 when it releases in two decades.

>>717248485 (OP)
I'll play it when it released
Everyone I've seen who tried it liked it a lot but said it'd get even better with time so I'm patient

>>717248485 (OP)
Only if Sparkmage is enjoyable like in 0.1

>>717252573
i wouldn't be shitting myself rn

>>717252545
Witch

>>717255150
Sorry anon, you cant have fun as a caster. Its not allowed anymore.

>>717255380
Then I shant be returning, I enjoyed the easy carrying of friends and the visibility of Spark.

>>717255010
End of 2025 is release

>>717248485 (OP)
>path of dogshit
no thanks rather replay TQ II EA demo ad infinity

>>717248485 (OP)
D4 good

>>717256382
>0.3
>patch every four months
>end of year release
what drugs are you on

this shit is almost as bad as dilator4

>dodge button
no thanks

>>717248824
>everyone melting down over "the vision"
>everyone hates chris
>bald fucking retard
>chris leaves
>suddenly everyone says how amazing he was and how much they miss him
fucking retards lmao

>>717256804
>people can't be wrong in their assumptions

>>717256804
?
Only retards shat on Chris. Mostly harvest n***ers who never got over their item editor being removed

>>717256804
PoE players are just loud
Jonathan Rogers also went from the most praised dev at GGG and gave 1000 interviews talking about everything with all the streamers sucking him off non stop, to the most hated because of the long months of Kalguur

>>717256859
Yeah, and they deserve to be called retards.

>>717253701
>>717254902
From what I've seen in trailers and such, I assume its going to be similar to how you can now assign a skill gem to alternate weapon slot, so that when you use the skill you'll automatically swap the weapons too.
So for example: you get a maul skill gem, that uses a "3rd weapon slot" lets say paws, that give you some stats, like I imagine bear form would give you armor or such.
I'm not sure if this will be available to druids only, or if its available to all and druids just have some ascendancies to improve or change it like wolf form or something.

>>717256516
Shill post

>>717248676
Get your eyes checked pal

>>717248485 (OP)
Not until this fat retard understands that you can't have slow combo skills and POE1 slot machine item drops in the same game.

>>717248867
Anyone sensible already burried POE by the time POE2 got announced. No wonder the only ones left were rabid addicts.

>>717248485 (OP)
I don't pay for betas

>>717252026
Sanctum is honestly the most enjoyable gameplay in PoE2 and while it does need some tweaks I'd really love to see them expand it. More floors, more layouts, more traps, fuck just let me run all sorts of crazy shit.

>>717259653
It is wild how much better Sanctum is in PoE2 compared to 1.

>>717251902
personally i love druid and i dnt even like the shapeshifting , d2 druid was peak druid and i love the doggos summoner and elemental caster druid more than the shapeshifter , poison druid was cool too . last epoch has some cool shapeshifting druid stuff in it

>>717252026
sanctum is not the problem , its the fact that its mandatory is the problem . u basically have to do sanctum if u want to get ur ascend early game , or wait till later . ppl hated lab when it was first introduced too . i guess it will be better with time as more content/way to ascend come and ppl get used to the sanctum-1 at lvl 25ish

>>717253701
druid isnt only shapeshiting , druid is nature magic , heals over time , nature summons etc

>>717248485 (OP)
>Come home, white man
you are on /v/, sir

>>717260972
Lil bro this isnt WoW, you aint getting fucking heals over time

>>717260805
It is certainly a eyebrow raising decision to make the players first chance to Ascend to be stuck behind content that disfavors slow builds, melee builds & builds that can't one shot. While the player is still using hodge podge gear from the shit drop rates.
Say what you will about Lab, but at least Lab-1 only really cared about you having a movement skill socketed for ease of travel. If your shite build/gear has to slowly pick away at Izaro for 5 minutes while you run around in circles and regen you can do it and get your power-spike.

>>717259585
both settlers and merc were great leagues , only issue with settlers was it was left on for too long . and the mercs introduced in the last league are basically the best merc system in any arpg . so if any1 isnt playing poe1 cos of poe2 then they r just missing out , i wud rather play poe1 atm than poe2 till they get poe2 launched and running properly so like 2-3 yrs imo

>>717261321
As someone whose first char in PoE2 was a Warrior in very shit gear, floor 1 is not very anti-melee. The only instant cast projectile is one that does no damage and while the boss is a lot to deal with melee, it's far from impossible.
Floors 2&3 are a different story, but by then you have better Skills and Supports.

>>717248485 (OP)
>Come home, white man
is it f2p yet?

>>717261464
> ,
> .
>any1
>cos
>r
>wud
Anon, what the fuck.

yeah, that whole Armour mechanic with that first Trials area sucks a fat dick. maybe if it was only half as many floors. or they just removed the dipshit Armour mechanic where "uhm you got hit too much so you lose because I said so :)"

>>717261642
hey i learnt how to type on a nokia ok , dnt wanna go over the char limit

>>717261742
The char limit here is TWO THOUSAND.
You can afford to type out your sentences properly, lad.
And the space before a , or . is just wasting said character limit.

>>717248485 (OP)
>JewTube fag
Go home brown man

>>717261642
>not streamlining your language so you can blast faster
ngmi

>>717261798
Do you not understand a joke unless it is suffixed by a (/s) ? And since you probably do not understand , being young and all , early on we used to have a thing called sms ( short messaging service ) which were not free and if one went over the word count it would count as multiple sms instead of only one . There i typed it all long like and explained the joke too .

>>717262134
If it was meant to be a joke, it wasn't particularly funny.
Thank you for not being a total douchebag like the average user here. I'm used to everyone being an insufferable brain-damaged jackass.

>>717248485 (OP)
>teehee let's add Poe1 league mechanic/features before finishing the actual game this will certainly take too much time
>and let's release updates like leagues to sell more mtx
Just how fucking stupid are they?

>>717262489
Impossibly so.
And people will keep giving them money even though they had a prime chance to do a full reset.
Port the MTX, I don't care, but you could've started over with all the League mechanics. Make a strong core game, then introduce improved/revamped versions of each League over YEARS rather than MONTHS.

>>717248824
>People look into GGG's tax returns (weird, but they are official documents)
>See Chris is not listed on there
>Everyone panics that he is gone
>Chris says it is a "clerical error"
>In 2025 it is revealed that Chris is no longer at GGG, this is after him not being seen for years anyways
>In his first appearance since leaving GGG he says he is making his own new game AND he left GGG in 2023
>There was never an official conformation of him being gone, never a tribute, never even a fucking word about it even though he was the face of the game and company and the guy who founded it over a decade ago
So what are the odds that GGG/Tencent hate Chris and once they knew he was making a new game (and poaching staff) they opted to not give him any attention? There is no way you don't make a post or video about Chris when he leaves. He was the central pillar of the game. Even people said MUH VISION it was still in reference to him. Every PoE meme was about him. People pointed at Chris as the game designer who lead the team and was able to make decisions unlike people at Blizzard.
One of the most awkward break ups in modern vidya and no one says anything because all of the major (and even minor) PoE content creators are straight up in bed with GGG and were probably ordered to not talk about it.

>>717256804
These calls of anger mostly came after two poorly implemented patches. Expedition nerf bomb that really needed to be spread out over a few leagues (and also communicated better) and then the implementation of arch nemesis that took, what, 3-4 leagues to actually get right after dozens of nerfs? The community was right to be angry about those, even though people did take it too far as per usual with autistic gamer retards. Also having patches that are tiny but then contain dozens of ruthless changes when it is a mode that almost no one plays is just not reading the room.
However, Chris was still beloved. People memed about the vision yet he was still the face of the game and someone people liked and openly said they missed even before he was officially gone.

>>717262775
Unlikely.
He most likely dipped out to "retire" for a few years and live off his fat stacks of cash while jerking off to his Black Lotus collection daily.
He did so quietly because he didn't want a big sendoff (for some reason).
Then he got bored and decided to make another game in direct competition with his previous game.

>>717262489
Part of it is GGG, part of it is the community
>0.1 releases
>Frequent patches
>They see the state of Cast on X
>They fundamentally change it and ruin builds
>Respeccing is so expensive it is cheaper to remake your character
>They then nerf and ruin gas arrow interactions (may have happened before Cast on X, I forget)
>Respeccing is so expensive it is cheaper to remake your character
>Two crippling nerfs to two of the most popular playstyles with no ability to respec easily rightfully makes everyone mad
>GGG pussy out and get cold feet, promise they won't make major balance changes like that anymore and will wait for big patches
>Commit to a league structure for PoE 2, basically meaning they're treating it like it is released because it only gets a major update every 4 months like PoE1
Just dumb. They made respeccing cheaper now and you can release nerfs as long as you communicate it clearly. They literally just did it in a shitty way back to back and waited for a while to make respeccing cheap enough to the point that people could do it reasonably if their build got nerfed. It is early fucking access.

>>717263013
Yeah but he IS poaching staff from GGG AND because of NZ employment laws he is competing for new hires as well. If he really is making an ARPG and not some kind of weird TCG/Board Game then GGG/Tencent would absolutely be pissed. It is direct competition with a recognizable face.

One of my friends previously worked on smite and smite2.
His friend moved to kiwiland to work for GGG, so my friend got a free cat out of it.
Looking forward to summer 2027 when acts 4-6 are released. As of right now, act3 sucks so bad i couldn't bring myself to play again and the endgame sucks.
Act one was so goood though.

>>717263252
You have it slightly off.
GGG orchestrated that situation.
>Announce that you are TESTING THE GAME on a public scale and plan to make CONSTANT balance changes (which makes it look more like a beta than a glorified early launch)
>Realize that your studio isn't properly designed to handle such a setup and devise a way to get out from the obligation, by simply not treating it like a beta (giving players the tools they need to actually test stuff)
>In this case, don't offer players a respec with the balance changes and let them go thermonuclear over it so you can "apologize" and "back off" to 3-month cycles (their business model)
>Now you get to safely monetize the game like you always did and people get to go back to their usual "bitching about an endless monsoon of nerfs that you can safely ignore by dangling a new carrot in their face" every 3 months

>>717263320
I trust Chris waaaaay more than jonny boy. Mark1 is still at ggg and is great, mark2 neon is cool. Everyone else I care about already left GGG. Well, stoner basement art guy from the exilecon gave a fantastic panel.

>Introduce slow, deadly combat with smaller packs of enemies with at least SLIGHTLY more complicated skills/AI (slightly)
>Introduce early game bosses with actual mechanics, moves to be dodged, and high damage that can be deadly (and aren't just Merveil freezing you)
>Introduce combo based gameplay, using set up and pay off skills
>Introduce support gems with upsides and downsides along with making it so you can have multiple 6 links for different situations
>THEN PUT IN PoE1 MECHANICS THAT REQUIRE SPEED, SPEED, AND MORE SPEED NOTHING MATTERS BUT SPEED GO FAST SPEED GET ALL THE SPEED YOU HAVE TO GO FAST
>MAPPING IS THE SAME SPEED CLEAR META HAS PoE1 LOOT DROPS FROM ONE INDIVIDUAL MAP ARE SHIT, YOU GOTTA DO 100 MAPS TO GET 1 DECENT ITEM SO GO FAST GO FASTER GO FAST GO FAST
>No time or ability to do combos vs hoards of rape monsters in maps that have density on par with PoE1 maps (not giga-juiced ones)
>Introduce Huntress who has an entire parry mechanic that everyone ignores because they found a lighting spear build that one click clears the entire screen
>Every class is about finding a build like that

>>717263616
Mark is the only thing keeping the game together. He actually plays it, and thus he sees the same annoyances as the player and pushes to get them fixed.

>>717263604
I cannot deny that the league structure is better for marketability and selling MTX.

>>717261629
White people dont ask this question
Quality costs

>>717263717
>>Introduce Huntress who has an entire parry mechanic
Which sucks balls.
Baseline, you can only take 1 hit at a time or you get staggered for 5 seconds where enemies get to guaranteed kill you.
So you can't use it against packs of monsters cause they will multi-hit you.
And there are a fair few bosses you can't use it reliably against because they have multi-hit or adds.

I have nearly 4k hours in PoE1 and 300 hours in PoE2. I could write an entire thesis on why PoE2 has fundamental flaws that need to be addressed.

>>717263937
Yep. That is my entire point. How could they think parry would ever be good or useful? The AoE on it is also tiny. You can be attacked by 10 monsters, parry, and 1 or 2 of them get the debuff. It needs to be reworked from the ground up. It feels like parrying was completed a year ago and they just put it in the game without considering what the game has become.
There is a reason everyone uses passive block instead of active blocking.

>>717263717
It really is amazing how they wanted the combo-based gameplay to work, then balanced 99% of the game-time around systems that do not allow the player to interact with it.

>>717264135
THE BASIC MELEE ATTACK IS THE BEST MACE SKILL BECAUSE ALL OF THE OTHER ONES HAVE BUILT IN DELAY. Jesus fucking Christ, how do you fuck up that bad? Armor is so useless that Warriors cannot survive without going Armor/ES and maxing out passive block while using giant's blood (which needs to be removed, honestly).

>>717264049
Agreed.
There's this thing I've been thinking about here and there and it feels like most parts of PoE2 are made by individual teams who aren't communicating.
Mob designers (not the bosses) are just making more advanced PoE1 mobs and boss designers are making these grandiose mini Soulslike encounters. Whomever has been working on Warrior made quite a few parts of his passive area shit while Monk gets fantastic passives, in much the same way all of Warrior's skills have shitty added attack time while Monk just gets tons of cool, good, free combo skills.

>one year to 1.0
who actually believed his lies?

>>717264345
>>one year to 1.0
The original claim was 6 months lmao.

>>717264297
I did not put it in my post, but yes. That is another fundamental issue. The Warrior part of the tree has random downsides and absolutely useless passives. The Monk/Ranger areas (especially monk) are filled with insane passives with no downside and better upsides than the Warrior one. ALSO they left ES scaling on the tree but like only 1 or 2 life notables. What the fuck?

>>717264345
>>717264365
>We hope to have it out by the end of 2025 at the latest!
>It has been 7 months and we've had one new class added
>Hints that there might not even be a class in 0.3 (but I am doubting this, I drink druid makes it)

>>717248636
It seems like 0.3 will have exactly that.

I’m truly not expecting anything better or less manipulative than diablo immortal but have they had any progress on the mobile game at all? Any announcements? It’s been six years right? Nothing?

>>717248485 (OP)
I will when the game totally comes out fully later this year.

>>717263717
>THEN PUT IN PoE1 MECHANICS THAT REQUIRE SPEED, SPEED, AND MORE SPEED NOTHING MATTERS BUT SPEED GO FAST SPEED GET ALL THE SPEED YOU HAVE TO GO FAST
>MAPPING IS THE SAME SPEED CLEAR META HAS PoE1 LOOT DROPS FROM ONE INDIVIDUAL MAP ARE SHIT, YOU GOTTA DO 100 MAPS TO GET 1 DECENT ITEM SO GO FAST GO FASTER GO FAST GO FAST
It's not the maps or things like Breach, Deli etc. It's the items. Generating a single item in POE is like 8 layers of RNG. You NEED to be killing shit by tens of thousands to ever see any kind of good drops. As long as the items work the way they do, the whole "slow combat' meme can never be viable.
They need to either introduce massive buffs to quant and rarity or implement some kind of smart loot system that will both prioritize items that you actually want for your character and cut off low rolls or people will 100% gravitate to something that can clear entire screens and go fast because that's what the game demands of them.

>>717264432
It was a pretty blatant lie, yes.
Also, Druid is probably getting nixed, but their exact wording was that they'd have to cut "a class" from the update.
So we're getting Shadow instead.

>>717248485 (OP)
>what if we slow down the gameplay... but keep the same dogshit droprates!
Bravo, Jon! Bravo!

>>717264462
People will gravitate towards AoE/projectile spam speed clear regardless because it's the difference between getting 1 good item per hour and 10.
There is no way (short of hard cooldowns on content thus hard-capping the potential for speed clearers) to make slow and methodical play viable in an ARPG.
>prioritize items that you actually want for your character and cut off low rolls
So Diablo 3.

>>717263252
It so crazy how they care about the game as if it was already finished when it's nowhere near close the release.

Style system like DMC that will give you better loot the less speed spammy your build is?

>>717264462
The tier system needs a major overhaul. That was their answer to smart loot. Make it so items will generate with a minimum mod tier so that it has a higher chance of being good. As implemented it doesn't really work. They need to raise the available tiers and make it so you basically only get tiered items at a certain point.
Also, THE LACK OF SCOURINGS AND ALTERATIONS MEANS CRAFTING SUCKS FUCKING BALLS. Collect 100 bases and just do essences + alt + essence + exalt x3 and hope the item is good unless you have 1000 divines to spend.
Also the inflation of the economy is so much worse than PoE1. There are no divine sinks and no exalt sinks. The economy is broken, busted, and shitty. Items cost hundreds or thousands of divs. In PoE1 shit like MB is 121 divs and that is the best unique in the game.

>>717264716
I do not understand why they released 0.1 when they did. I see only three options (in order of least to most likely)
>They are just too proud and didn't wanna delay again. Felt like they needed to put it out there to make meaningful canges
>They needed financial help because the game was expensive and EA keys generated them a huge windfall
>Tencent forced them to do it
If it is not one of those three then what they did makes no sense. The game was so blatantly unfinished in 0.1 it didn't feel even like an early access game.

I wanted a slower, more methodical ARPG and what they gave us was 3 acts of unbearably slow gameplay and then it suddenly turns into zoom zoom kill the screen to grind 1000000000000000 maps for nothing. No fucking thanks, I'm done with GGG. I'll stick with LE, TQ2 and GD, at least those have a clear fucking vision of what they want to be.

>>717264774
I still wonder why people even use divines as a currency in Poe2 besides them being rare and the "de facto" choice.
They are actually completely worthless when you think about it.

>>717248485 (OP)
you are definitely brown

>>717264906
It desperately needs an innate increase to movement speed, the reduction of armor movement speed penalties, and or movement skills. I want a slower ARPG and yeah, it is too slow. You just waddle across the battlefield (especially during the campaign) with your 10-15% MS boots in maps that are too large.

Tencent shill thread

>>717264973
It is literally just because too many exalts drop and trading 5000 of them for an item is not practical. So they opted to use divines. I actually recognized this problem early and put every exalt I got into divines that multiplied by like 10x in just a week or two.
It is absolutely just a hold over from PoE1 where people recognize Divines as the high tier currency due to meta mod crafting.

>>717265058
Does this look like a thread where people are shilling the game?

>>717265106
Don't respond to bots.

>>717264652
If you have a better item generation system, slower builds at least become viable, even if they're not optimal.
>So Diablo 3
If they're dead set on combos and slowing everything down, then yes. Otherwise, they need to admit that the whole idea was DOA and go back to POE1 style skills (which Jonathan's inflated ego will never let him do).

>>717264774
>Also, THE LACK OF SCOURINGS AND ALTERATIONS MEANS CRAFTING SUCKS FUCKING BALLS.
It does and, if anything makes the item RNG problem even worse. In POE1 you can at least reasonably craft some pieces even when you got unlucky with raw drops. In 2, your options are either picking up something good off the ground or buying it on trade.

>>717265106
Yes, you're too stupid though to understand why

just play poe1 it's better

I can't imagine playing without autoloot

>>717265076
I just find it interesting how it specifically is the currency item people chose to rally behind.
Fuck man even orbs of chance have more intrinsic value then a divine orb currently.

>>717265173
PoE1 has different levels of crafting
It has basic ass "Essence + craft on a mod" poverty tier
It has pretty decent item that you craft a mod on
It has alt + regal and then multi mod to make a pretty damn good item that is honestly enough to last you forever unless you're super juicing
Then it has high tier locking prefixes/suffixes, rerolling, cannot roll attack/caster slamming, etc. Stuff that is expensive and makes some of the best items.
Finally, it has insane stuff like lock crafting that is used to make mirror-tier items

PoE2 has literally two forms of crafting
Exalt slamming bases you either found or used an essence on
Omen crafting that costs hundreds or thousands of divines

It is just so dumb.

>>717248485 (OP)
No Bald Fucking Retard™ ruining the game, no care.

>>717250480
Can't wait for him to make "turn 2: the Gathering" and then somehow ruin it because ZOOM ZOOM ZOOM isn't what he wanted after all.

>>717265548
It is primarily due to the rarity + PoE1, really. I agree with you that other orbs are more useful, but they're not as rare. The problem is that with no sinks it is strictly inflationary. Items would cost, and I am not even kidding, like 10,000+ exalts, but without sinks divines creep up to be an absurd number of exalts. It is just a broken economy.

>>717248485 (OP)
I'm waiting for the full release of Titan Quest 2, I played the EA and its some good shit.

>>717265754
I am interested in TQ2 but I don't wanna play the EA. Hopefully it will release in 2026 like they said and not go into 2028 or some shit.

>>717264459
same

>>717265000
Their entire design philosophy is fucked. You can have very slow gameplay but not with the expectation that the player will grind away a gorrillion maps for no gains whatseover. Or you can speed it up but then you're just making PoE1.5, which the game already is.

It doesn't help that the community is fucking retarded and absolutely cannot accept that the game isn't PoE1 and are trying so very hard to turn the game back into it.

What are the chances of Act 4, 5 and 6 being dropped in 0.3 at once?

>>717265815
Just a heads up, it' doesn't run very well on my RX6600 with upscaling even on low. I can dip below 60fps easily. There's plenty of time to upgrade till' full release

>>717265925
0%

>>717265925
Lol. Lmao.

>>717250368
It's gonna be a card game

>>717265867
There is a lot of cross over between games but I think over time more and more dedicated PoE1 and 2 fans are going to sort of just pick a side. Content creators will flop back and forth between them for bucks, but PoE2 has attracted way more of the D4 audience than PoE1 has.
Looking at the numbers, however, PoE2 has higher highs and lower lows, while PoE1 has higher highs and also higher lows. Basically they end up having the same number of players after about a month, but PoE1 has a greater retention % while PoE2 has a higher starting number.

For now at least, GGG, financially speaking, does need to focus on both and I think that is to the detriment of PoE2.

>>717248485 (OP)
I will always find it funny that people said when this game first came out that it won't be about running around as fast as possible blowing up the screen with one button like all other arpg's.

>>717250368
With the state of the game the only traps and mines you'll get is pitfall traps which you'll have to dig yourself and cover with branches.

>>717265925

>>717250368
>>717266405
I don't know if mines are gonna be in the game, but shadow is tied to traps right now. Which sucks cause no claws. Do they even have daggers in the game? I forget.

>should we focus on finishing the game?
>no, let's spend our dev time working on the endgame treadmill that we're going to have to rework anyway for the 1.0 release to satisfy the top 5% poopsock autists

Why can't I just find good drop items like in Titan quest? Why are people so obsessed with crafting? It sucks

>>717248485 (OP)
Not until 1.0

Did they revert the retarded changes made?

I think I like poe2, the armor design improved a lot and you no longer look like a hobo unless you pay real money for the horseshit they sell. That said, I wont touch the game until they add duelist/swords, the fuck is taking them so long?

also the POE1 subhuman niggers that are upset they cant clear the map with 1 button need to go fucking kill themselves.

>>717266671
You're lucky to find 1 good affix on an item, but to get a substatial upgrade over what you got, you'd need 4 good affixes, the odds of you getting that is extremely low.
add crafting and now all those items with 1 or 2 good affixes become viable options to use.

>>717248485 (OP)
What a piece of shit game this was lol, no way I’m wasting my time again.

>>717266812
>also the POE1 subhuman niggers that are upset they cant clear the map with 1 button need to go fucking kill themselves.
Oh fuck off. Blame GGG. They implemented league mechanics that incentivize you to speed clear so of course people are mad when it is harder and slower. They straight up stole breach and delirium from PoE1 which are inherently about speed. They are probably gonna add Legion which is about speed. They made it so individual monsters and bosses drop fucking nothing which incentivizes killing thousands (aka speed). I want a slower game, but GGG clearly does not.
>The armor design improved a lot and you no longer look like a hobo unless you pay real money for the horseshit they sell.
Yes. Cosmetics in PoE2 really are optional because you look cool without them if you're wearing similar types of armor (Aka all dex, strength, or int) if you start mixing and matching it can look a bit silly but still leagues better than PoE1. Also uniques look great.
>That said, I wont touch the game until they add duelist/swords, the fuck is taking them so long?
They're retarded. They thought the best way to introduce people to the game would be slow ass maces with built in delays on every attack. Of course they had monk, but monk shits out lightning and huge ranged projectiles with every attack making it barely "melee"

>>717266671
See: >>717265575
In PoE1 crafting is flexible enough that even though it does stink to not find good items, you can make them at different investment levels.
Also it should be said but with the latest expansion you actually find much better items in PoE1 now. I am not even kidding. PoE1 has higher quality loot than PoE2. Between mercenary items, the new memory strands, gambling, and different league mechanics you actually just find good shit. The price of decent rare items kind of crashed this league because of it. It made getting a fairly strong character pretty easy in SSF or in trade.

>>717266812
>also the POE1 subhuman niggers that are upset they cant clear the map with 1 button need to go fucking kill themselves.

It's especially funny because you can actually do this in PoE2 with the right builds because the balance is completely busted anyway. You can completely ignore the combo system and just zoom zoom in maps. One could argue that it's even faster in PoE2 because you can more easily implement gems that one-shots bosses alongside the zoom zoom build because of the nature of the game.

>>717267269
The current meta of PoE2 with lightning spear and the rhoa mount is hilarious. It is not as fast as true speed clear in PoE1 thanks to shit like HH and reverse chill and the various increases to MS, but it is really close and far faster than most PoE1 builds AND cheaper to put together.
The game is a fucking mess, and I want it to be good.

arpgs are for subhuman retards

I think the current problem with PoE 2 is that they clearly had an idea for an entirely different game. People ITT have picked up on it and have commented on it. But, they have developers who only have experience on PoE1s gameplay. Trying to tell someone to re invent the wheel is hard when all they know how to do is use the blueprints for the old wheel design.

is act 2 less performance hoggy yet

>>717262910
Expedition was retarded for multiple reasons. Yeah, some builds are dealing damage in Shapers per second. On tradecore. With 2k health. And hardlocked 0% exp at level 95. No one gives a flying fuck. A lot of skills are absolute dogshit that struggle to break 500k DPS past the first week unless you want to, again, have 2k life and 50000+ deaths. MAYBE if you go tradecore (again, might as well just admit the build is shit) and push that damage to 2m-3m a second. Whoops, uber bosses have 70% damage reduction. Sorry! Looks like you're just playing a ShitBuild(TM) and have learned your lesson. Next league, you will be a stinking metanigger jew and play one of 4 fair and balanced abilities abusing the same fair and balanced mechanics that deal 1-2 million damage on day fucking one and scale exponentially even in HCSSF.

Now, what is the answer to the latter problem of over preforming builds? Is it, perhaps, deal with the problematic scaling vectors, like multiplicative damage through traps or mines or totems? The handful of absolute cancerous triple dipping projectile abilities? Those skills that just have in-built 200%+ more damage multipliers for no fucking reason?

Nah. Lets just take every single fucking support gem and nuke them by half.

Oh, whoops. Looks like those builds that were dealing 5m+ damage on day 2 of a new league are now dealing 2.5m. Meanwhile, the 200k damage build is now literally dead as opposed to figuratively dead.

Thats okay, we can fix this issue in PoE2.

>Oh, wait.

>>717266405
>>717266474
There is literally a mines cluster in the passive tree. Shadow is mines, its like 99% confirmed

>>717269296
I just didn't remember, but I am pretty sure they also confirmed traps. Kind of dumb if they have traps AND mines but no claws since there are no claw clusters I know that one.

>>717269508
I thought they were planning to combine traps/mines into a single thing since there's no real point in having both.

>>717270839
I could be wrong, I just remember seeing a lot of talk about traps.

>>717266671
Because Titan Quest has very little complexity so making "good" items drops is fairly straight forward?

>>717263717
I kinda liked twister (or whatever it's called) huntress, and supposedly some streamers didn't mind parry. Otherwise, you're right.

>>717270839
Yeah, you're right. It is combined. Mines will be a subclass of traps, i said there is a mines cluster node but its actually trap cluster node.
Anyways, shadow is for traps/mines, not for daggers or claws. We even have datamined basetypes for traps

>>717248485 (OP)
Blood mage physical caster status?

>>717273025
ded

>>717251902
Bears are cool. That being said they most likely held it back due to the reception that Warrior/maces got in 0.1. It would have never gotten any usage if they shipped it as is with Huntress coming from all the previews from previous years. Dunno how they'll solve the slow combo playstyle other than redoing the class from scratch though

>>717273361
I dont get the idea here. You put bear form on certain skills like swipe or maul or something like this, you transform for a second and then revert back?

>>717273581
Bear Skills are just a different weapon type, transforming is just weapon swap, but for animorphs

>>717248485 (OP)
I rather sniff brokenglass

>>717273581
The idea is you Bearmorph, rampage around killing stuff, then swap back, set up some combo skills, then bearmorph again to nuke bosses.

>>717273581
Some STR/INT spells get certain buffs/effects from melee skills, and I'm assuming Druid ascendancies support that playstyle even more.

>>717248485 (OP)
No thanks!

>>717273974
https://youtu.be/1R83nNiXixI?si=qj6I5Gjm8Oao7Se2&t=61
after seeing this I gotta ask is the combat more fun that PoE2

I can't even fathom what the hell they were thinking removing all tree HP while leaving ES to scale out of control..
And then making Armor even worse than it is in PoE1.

>>717273581
Funny enough, they wholesale copied it from D4 where shapeshifting skills transform you just for that particular attack.

>>717274119
>?si=
Lad.

>>717274159
PoE2 druid was announced before D4s was I believe

>>717273361
The constant transforming looks retarded

>>717274119
No. It is far clunkier than PoE2 and is also only like 6-7 hours long. I think it is a good pace and 12-16 months of tweaking can get TQ2 into a fun spot, but right now the combat feels janky.

>>717271636
>Anyways, shadow is for traps/mines, not for daggers or claws
Daggers are Dex/Int weapons with 15% base crit so why wouldn't they be for Shadow? If they ported over PoE1 ascendancies 1 for 1 Sabo would specialize in traps and Dex/Int spells while Assassin would cover close quarters crit melee/projectile attacks with melee weapon archetypes

>>717271636
Shadow is Traps and Daggers.
Claws are being turned into a Glove type.

>>717274617
I wonder if they're gonna be put in with the supposed monk unarmed ascendancy that is coming. Right now unarmed makes no sense. There are like 2? unarmed skills and both are support skills that deal almost no damage.

>>717274398
Bears can't roll, so you have to go back to human if you want to do it to avoid attacks
That's also why you can't play as a bear in any fromsoft game btw

>>717274147
Because STR gives you hp will int no longer gives u increased energy shield. So they balanced it out

>>717274807
No, they added a bear roll animation.

B8

>>717274232
If he didn't know enough to post it he's not going to know what you're talking about either.

>>717274898
It literally takes less effort to post the non-scuffed version.
I can't even fathom how people keep fucking this up.

>>717265510
Is it confirmed if she's a troon?

>>717274807
>Bears can't roll
>he doesn't know
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rO2MmCsf7Vg

>>717274119
If you put a gun to my head and aid "PLAY THROUGH THE CAMPAIGN OF POE2 OR TQ2 NOW!" I would choose TQ2 everytime.

>>717275039
it's very important for Google to know he posts on 4chan, and what posts, and in which threads though

>>717275412
This isnt the own you think it is lil bro
One is meant to be played once then thrown into the trash, the other is meant to be played for a long time

>>717275412
same there’s just way more live in the world, POE feels like looking at excel sheets

>>717275039
if you use the 'share option' and click 'timestamp' it always includes ?si=

>>717275636
Right click>copy video URL at current time generates without a tracker. 2 clicks anywhere on the video with consistent positioning. Going through the Share button to generate a timestamped link is 3 clicks and depending on if your monitor is zoomed in or not, may also require scrolling down.
Copying it from the URL at the top of the page generates without a tracker.
It is LITERALLY always easier to generate without the tracker.

>>717274119
fuck no and its 1 act for 30, its a shit deal

>>717264462
Every currency item needs to act like a veiled orb in that it gives you a measure of control over the outcome. Have a crafting menu and slam an item with a regal for a choice of 3-5 different options. Habe imfluence orbs give you the choice of 3 influence mods added, etc.

>>717275602

>>717265925
>>717266447
Isn't that the female druid?

>>717267616
*superhuman retards

>>717273581
No, you stay until you use a non-bear ability. They are showcasing automatic shapeshifing which Jonathan is very proud of.

>>717278464
What type of non-bear ability would I want to use?

>>717275602
doesn't change the fact that poe2 campaign is a fucking boring and painful slog to go through

>>717248485 (OP)
poop2 is bad.

>>717278560
uninstall.exe

>>717278560
A spell. The way I understood these videos, you cast in human form.

>>717275412
The TQ2 campaign is like 5-6 hours long, so yeah I'd probably choose that too. 0.3 isn't out yet.

Shoutout to D3 Witch Doctor even though she's basically a reskinned Necromancer.

>>717264456
They canceled the mobile game years ago, they used the tools they developed for mobile to improve the console versions of PoE.
The old mobile team is now the dedicated console team.

>>717274807

>>717279464
It's for the best, and they could always revive the project sometime down the road. If they really wanted to.

>>717279548
fake, bears cant roll, it says so in the Book of the Jungle

>>717279548
look at him go

>>717279590
*rolls*

>>717275412
You know the TQ campaign is static right? It's the exact same experience every time as the map never changes.

>>717279709
good, means you can plan a route and get through it faster if you want, the map generation in poe2 does nothing for the campaign at the moment since the map looks and feels the same, you just need to find the exit again

>>717279548

>>717279816
The campaign is the game though, what are you getting though faster for?

>>717279964
oh you've never played an arpg before then

>>717248620
Kek x2. These used to be paid positions. Now you pay to be in said position.

>>717280048
It's a single player game too, just answer the question.

>>717280168
your attempts at bait are cute

>>717280204
Embarrassing lil gup.

>>717268905
Spot on and the reason why the bald faggot is hated. I'd say you can add the absolute scam nature of the last nerf fiesta that was justified with making the game poe 2 ready, but completely unnecessary due to the fact that the games got divorced. And that decision was already clear to them, but only a league later communicated with the world. Fuck BFR and his ongoing scam, and fuck his enablers.

>>717279018
If im playing a bear melee guy what spell would I even wanna throw? Not even fire wall makes sense since you aint shooting projectiles. Maybe a curse?

>>717256804
Those are all Jonathan's ideas, Chris was just the message boy
>N-NOOOO, IT WAS ALL CHRIS!!
Then why POE2 is the way it is? Surely they would have stirred that boat long ago after he left the company 3 years ago

>>717265510
Why do you advertise that tranny in every thread? Horrible man visage, even with his ten filters applied.

>>717280546
this one >>717273931

>>717280546

>>717281841
>>717281462
So are his slams faster than mace slams or why would you use this for bear specifically

>>717281841
Wait a minute....place multiple volcanos around a boss use earthquake strength staking titan build with dual Mjöllnir...

Can i have VFOS? We have VFOS at home, in poe2, i feel like a made a normie reddit collage but with words

>>717282993
Mobility slams.

>>717262775
49%. It was clearly apparent that whatever this "vision" was, Chris was never satisfied. POE2 should've been his "vision" game it seems but received luke warm reception, so is his "personally developed" ruthless mode. It's clear that whatever Cris had in mind wasn't working or wasn't really pressured, so it be only logical to part way like that. All considered that since he is the face of GGG all the attention and "broken promises" are basically directed at him.

Tencent surely played role but I'd say it was more like an opportunity for him, to finally relax and step down and let the "conventional" management to take place since there ain't much left for him to do there anyway in terms of "fixing the game" considering the scope of the company now..

I’ve ceased to care about the game until they

1) Stop catering to Softcore faggots completely. They don’t respect the game and don’t deserve to play it.

2) Rework health, recovery, and town portal such that you die from multiple mistakes rather than just getting one-shot.

The game doesn’t need more content until they fix those issues.

>>717285135
What proof do you even have that he was behind ruthless? Is he the one thats been yapping and glazing Elden Ring and Dark Souls? Oh, its Jonathan?

>>717248485 (OP)
I want to play more PoE2 but the only weapon I like out of the current options is crossbow, and I simply can't play that forever. When they add daggers and swords and shit I'll come back.

>>717248485 (OP)
I will return when I get Cyclone and reworked endgame. The atlas in poe2 is 100% dogshit and worse than poe1 atlas in every single way

>>717280546
I assume Jonathan will come up with a build that makes you cast something every now and then.