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what am I in for? in nine hours
>>717285169I played this for 250 hours and never interactive with anyone
>>717285116 (OP)If you're like me, it'll be kind of fun for awhile but you'll drop it before you ever beat the base game.
Then you'll possibly see something showing that the game's story actually gets interesting in the expansions years later, and pick it back up and find "oh, this DOES actually go somewhere good and isn't complete shit".
I'm kind of shocked they haven't revamped the base campaign even more than they have so far. It filters out a shti ton of people.
>>717285116 (OP)Generalw belong on /vg/
>>717285116 (OP)you're in for not being able to play it for several more hours due to maintenance for 7.3 lmao
>>717285432>Generalwgood one retard
>>717286634its going to be a while like 10 or so hours
>>717285116 (OP)Game that is as wide as a lake but deep as a puddle. As a new player you will have a ton of optional content to the point where it is pretty daunting at level 15, but it has been years since any of it received any meaningful updates. You can play as any role in a party now that AI companions exist so you don't even have to wait as DPS to go do stuff minus a few story requirements. Unfortunately, SE is also filled with extreme retards so a lot of the classes and jobs feel like shit to play for many many hours until you finally have a decent kit. Do not pay money for this game until you do everything you want to do as a F2P.
>>717285116 (OP)>in nine hoursWon't the game be down for patch 7.3 in 9 hours?
>>717286634>Aug. 5, 2025 1:00 to 10:00 (GMT)So that's starting in 5 hours and 12 minutes from now and lasting for 9 hours.
(It could go back up a bit earlier. Like half an hour to an hour)
>>717285116 (OP)It's a game that assumes it's your first MMO, and as a result of the passage of time (+10 levels every expansion, new abilities to add) removes some stuff from the front end to avoid clogging up at the back end. In short: it's a slow starting game. Story-wise, too. Has a lot of stuff to do, though. And given that the trial gives you access to the base game and the first two expansions and most of its side content for free, it's not a bad deal.
You'll have to see if you like the game.
>>717285192this
it's pretty sad though
I got all jobs to level cap in endwalker but have not talked to a single person
man these bait threads really fell off after dumpy got janny raped.
I can't believe they added a 2 hour cutscene of the WoL having sex with Sphene in 7.3
the only thing that sucks about the free trial is the gold cap. I literally bought the game just slightly after getting into heavensward because I hit the gold cap and I didn't want to not get money from quests and shit
>>717285116 (OP)The greatest adventure story you'll ever experience.
Do make sure you do all available side quests before continuing with the main quest.
If you want to know which class is canon per expansion:
>A Realm RebornWarrior
>HeavenswardDragoon
>StormbloodMonk/Samurai
>ShadowbringersDark Knight
>EndwalkerPaladin
Dawntrail does not exist. The story ends after Endwalker.
for new players it's fantastic.
it's only straight up dogshit for everyone else who isn't an unreal raider (99% of the non-sprout players)
>>717289638>adventure is when you walk in a straight line between quest markers to watch cutscenes
>>717289359Uwaaa.. sugoi zo...
>>717289837>playing video games is just pressing buttons at the right time while looking at a screen
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>>717289837>anon when he realizes a lot of story games are walking in straight line with cutscenes
for new players it's fantastic.
it's only straight up dogshit for everyone else who isn't an ultimate raider (99% of the non-sprout players)
>>717289938>xiv is the only game I've ever played>>717290085Even story games typically have gameplay, but I guess you only play walking sims from itch or something like the resetera faggot you are. For a game to be an adventure there has to be, you know... an adventure. Wandering, exploration, danger. XIV has none of that. It's hundreds of hours of cutscenes.
>>717285116 (OP)visual novel disguised as a mmo with barebones gameplay
>>717290334>Even story games typically have gameplayOh, like XIV then.
>>717290434Three hours of cutscenes per 20 minutes of gameplay that's impossible to fail. Wowie zowie what a game!!!
>>717285192You didn't interact with the dawnfail expansion?
>>717290504So it has gameplay. Curious how you moved the goalpost so quickly.
>>717285116 (OP)Doing busywork for npcs every expansion.
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>>717290504>impossible to failthey will find a way this game has some of the biggest shitters ever
>>717285116 (OP)I hope you are ready for hours of errand running back and forth in empty souless zones multiple times for 45 mins then get a cut scene of talking heads nodding at each other.
I used to LOVE ff14 but you have to be a certain type of autist like I was to play it for thousands of hours waiting for the mmo part to materialize.
>>717290583Curious how you said it's the greatest adventure game ever and now your cope is that it has gameplay at all. Where's the adventure in walking on a guided tour? Did you write for Dawntrail by chance?
>>717290504>impossible to failClearly you weren't there for the whining about the solo duties in Endwalker.
Because you're a moron talking out your ass about something you're completely ignorant of.
>>717285116 (OP)Do NOT pick a healer. Even if you play healer in other games, or think the WHM robes are nice, or whatever other reason you might have. The healing is dogshit in this game. It peaks in your first ~15 hours of play and then goes steadily downhill and never recovers. Play DPS or Tank, but don't play Healer.
>>717285116 (OP)maintenance in 4 hours. when it begins they turn off the download so you won't even be able to do it during. and then you'll have to start over for tomorrows patch
>>717291052>you said it's the greatest adventure gamedid I?
>30 minutes of having to listen to Sena Bryer pretend to be a woman
Nah thanks dawg.
>>717291403No you didn't, that was me!
>>717285116 (OP)Do pick a healer. Even if you play healer in other games, or think the WHM robes are nice, or whatever other reason you might have. The healing is engaging in this game. It begins in your first ~15 hours of play and then goes steadily uphill and never goes down. Do not play DPS or Tank, but play Healer.
>>717291618I thought as much. I sure don't recall posting that.
>>717291648Quit Glaring at me and take that robe off, I have a staff for you to examine.
>>717291808...hmm.. nyo :3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60D7LJ1NRoc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JUXrxZaOu0
what is the best song in 7.2?
>>717292815The Occult Crescent songs are pretty good.
>>717293025yeah. 7.2 is really strong musically
>>717292815not even a contest
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwk0GPaYb4o
>>717285116 (OP)10 years too late anon
>>717293025I hate that you almost never get to hear much of the FFV battle theme because the fates are over in 10 seconds
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_nlG-U8HDY
>>717293136Was such a good song.
>>717293136Groovy my man
that bass is slapping
ya dig?
who/what is the 7.3 trial going to be?
>>717293221>get to hear more of this song in the 7.2 trailer than ingamecursed. CURSED.
>>717293221Solution: swap the FATE and CE music with Orchestrion plugin
>>717293136Here's the full version without the battle interrupts
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrUGPt4rxus
>>717293136>Arcadey Night Fever
>>717285116 (OP)A good game until you reach the end of Endwalker, base and not the patches. Just quit after that.
>>717293358I hope there's a twist and it's not Calyx or one of his machines
>>717292815>>717293221More crazy Soken bops! How does he come up with so much kino??
>>717292815It has a lot of good songs, but probably Roses of May. And yeah, I know it's a song from 9, but oh well. The part with the bass drum is so good.
https://youtu.be/JolH2HGGz-U
>friends keep teasing about jumping back in this
>tell them fuck it i'm down just let me know
>months pass as they get roped into fotm to fotm
their current cope is that they are waiting for a mutual friend to get back from deployment, as if he isn't going to be busy for a while after that
i'm thinking about jumping in with just myself and another friend since i haven't played since shadowbringers
how bad have they fucked up MNK and DRK?
>>717293903>how bad have they fucked up MNK and DRK?They removed keeping track of buffs for MNK. DRK is just as shit as it has always been since ShB last I checked.
>>717293740the choice of the slower and sadder version of beatrix's theme while elevating its pomp and circumstance to something much more knightly or even glorious is really interesting, it's kinda trying to wrangle a sad theme into being a badass theme and that context is appropriate for fighting a weird reminiscence of beatrix and not the real person
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xNYDJUndMA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zq9pHIVtWKs
>>717293903drk is in a good place atm. mnk is in the middle of melee dps atm iirc and has a new combo system in addition to its standard 123
>>717293903>how bad have they fucked up MNK and DRK?monk now builds up sabin blitzes instead of keeping track of greased lightning stacks, some positionals died, largely the same otherwise but now it's not cancer to play in content you're not familiar with
dark knight is largely the same as it was in shadowbringers but has a couple of new options and attacks
>>717293358>>717293563It's Shale, merging with Calyx who is a gay little nobody, just a computer program of Shale's to confuse the Wol and gay friends.
Shale then initiates the combat data from observing the Wol fight Zelania into Necron, Necron then does big damage and kills Sphene.
Wuk gets all menstrual, has a temper tantrum and, goes limit break then kills Necron.
Wuk is then inducted into the Scions officially and says how she'll keep the memory alive of Sphene through her smile, that she'll have to smile even harder as she's smiling for two now.
>>717294049It is kinda wry. Which fits, I suppose, when you're fighting a weaponized mech built off the corrupted concept of a long dead person.
>>717294125die, ironic wuk stan
>>717293440>>717293136https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1X4ahM7TcU
primals version. you can actually understand the lyrics
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5E1e2C8q4o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACCo_mOIMoQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aL8Le3f0mAI
>>717294232You dipshit, I'm not simping for her, I'm writing what will happen tomorrow. I don't want it to happen but it will.
>>717294245The primals version is terrible, the entire album is worse than the in-game songs
>>717294035>>717294103>>717294120Well I suppose it could have been way worse.
Shame not much has changed with DRK. I like the aesthetic and fuckhuge sword, but man did it become a shadow of its HW self. I didn't mind dark arts weaving at all.
MNK I think i'll have to try out myself to get an impression. It sounds like an improvement but I kinda liked the positionals. Kept me on my toes. To me it sounds like dumbing down, but if they added a new system to it to focus on instead of buffs and positions, then i guess it cancels out.
>>717294336i post them mostly for the lyrics.
and i think i prefer the primals sugar riot theme
>>717294458DRK opener at 100 has 5 double weaves iirc
>>717294326aw gee whiz guys i'm just being realistic (long rambling fanfiction)
>>717294458DRK is still trying to find its identity (gameplay) ultimately. I wouldn't say I hate it, but it feels a bit aimless to me. But it did that in ShB and EW as well.
MNK I kinda like, but I'm also not a long-time monk player. I'm a Dragooner, and I just switched to Monk for 7.1 because I was mad over losing my Nastrond charges.
>>717294635>lost our fucking nastrond machine-gun'TWAS A GRAND AND GLORIOUS DREAM WE SHARED
one more sleep till wuk is dead and sphene is crowned queen of xiv!
>>717294787I'll be working so I'm counting on my /v/ros to let me know if Wuk is gone or not by the end
>>717294761Yeah, it irked me more than losing Spineshatter Dive.
I want Geirskogul back to 30s CD as well. I get that it's 1m now because it gives you LoTD every time you use it now, but you can have an internal CD for LoTD. They didn't need to make it a 1m.
looking forward to being 100% correct
>>717285116 (OP)>In nine hoursShit I still remember how I had to keep the computer on for two whole days to download gta v on pc a year after release, I wouldn't be able to go back to regular copper after being so many years with fiber, even if the fiber is only 600mb.
>>717294878for me i'm still waiting on the rest of that FUCKING rework we were supposed to get last expac
even if the sheer vitriol samurai's changes caused is probably what made them step back, shelve the rework and decide jobs needed looked at as a whole
>>717294572Yes it's fanfiction the fuck did you think it is, the script for 7.3? Are you retarded or ESL?
>>717295263don't get your hopes up. it'll just be a pruning and consolidation
>>717295350He's saying it wasn't funny, tard-kun
>>717295263Yeah, that's probably what it was. A lot of dooming over how they'd gut DRG.
In the end, they didn't quite gut it, but as I said, I still don't like some of the changes. Just not enough to hate them.
>>717295373i have extreme hopes for it already based on them following through with their raid design changes, something they said they'd do and clearly meant it since they're adding UI elements like below HP castbars for enemies, which is only useful in the context of multiple high-priority targets you have to individually keep track of
i personally have no reason or cause to suspect they're not gonna give jobs SOME kind of once-over that they're going to follow through on
>>717295576yeah dragoon's changes since then have all been trying to rock the boat on the job as little as possible. notably they've also been de-emphasizing its job gauge in a similar manner to a lot of jobs getting their job gauge lowered in importance or impact, up to and including black mage who has been pretty much rocking the same mechanics since heavensward. touching black mage is, if nothing else, what makes me think they're serious about poking at jobs in the future
I'm not subbing until there's signs of MASSIVE improvement, Square.
And I'm a person so desperate to play I created cute girls on the benchmark for hours today.
>>717295691What are you hopes for DRG going forward? Like with a full rework?
I really dunno. I hate the notion of losing abilities because I get attached to them (except Dragon Sight. Fuck Dragon Sight), but I'd like Dragoon to be more about jumping, agility, etc.
>>717285116 (OP)a VN that occasionally has you do braindead easy mmorpg dungeons
>>717285116 (OP)Better download all the 3rd party cheat tools to play the game for you. If you don't people who do will shit on you.
>>717294875i will be up very early specifically for the purposes at being furious at hirois shit writing.
>>717295845i'm mostly hoping for that, yeah, a higher focus on actually jumping or otherwise being an agile spearfighter. i am painfully aware that actually "capturing dragoon" in a tab target MMO is an insanely tall order for similar reasons as to why dragoons get passed over so often in square enix's obsession with 3D action games, but at the very least i'm hoping for less shit like replacing spineshatter dive with a dissidia airdash that is functionally the same thing as monk's teleport and dark knight/gunbreaker's dashes (gunbreaker's hurts especially, it's supposed to be THE dpsing tank and it lost an attack! and one of squall's techniques too!)
i do feel more wiggle room for this kind of thing could be coming since they've begun allowing phoenix downs as normal items, hefty cooldown or not that's still some laxed adherence to balance and rigid pipelines that the game hasn't felt in ages
>>717295517It wasn't meant to be funny you low IQ ESL.
>>717296092How would this focus manifest for you? Not a gotcha, but I'm curious. I share your opinion as you see, but I'm not quite sure how they would make good on it. XIV has... a fairly hard time with verticality, and that's what a Dragoon would really need.
>>717295785what improvements would you like to see? not shitposting im genuinely curious
>>717296092DRG needs
>Jumps as GCD attacks to give them more weight and importance>Extremely high mobility, a jump like shukuchi with a very short cooldown so they can leap all over the field>a javelin toss like in Jack's game that can be held down and charged to assrape enemies
>>717289283I used to get a lot of friendly whispers when I was a sprout, but when I lost the leaf it stopped :(
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So what theme do you think they will go with for necron?
https://youtu.be/3IXijnKO8Ow?si=iVt0MN7LxZ535jpD Or https://youtu.be/d4AQ7kRcn_A?si=DF_vOlGHJDnQJ6NJ both are good honestly
>>717296405Oh and
>a charged jump that can be held, DRG hovers in the air like in PvP, used for downtime so they crash back down when the boss returns
>>717296239don't know! i'd probably just settle for jumping around being a part of dragoon's animations like ninja running and jumping around all over the place in its own attacks. i personally want a "myself as a mount" thing where i'm doing long-jumps as a form of locomotion like estinien does in some cutscenes. but as far as combat and job design goes dragoon is a big mystery and i don't think i'd ever get a design where i feel i'm doing it justice, so woe betide the developers having to do it for a paycheck
>>717296405>Extremely high mobility, a jump like shukuchi with a very short cooldown so they can leap all over the fieldstill fucks me up that reaper has drg mobility abilities... but better
>a realm reborn
soul
comfy zones
The Final Coil of Bahamut is peak
>heavensward
all zone design ruined from this point forward thanks to flying mounts
>stormblood
lyse is one of the worst characters ever
>shadowbringers
emet-selch is literally the best villain in the entire final fantasy series, i kneel
ryne is one of the worst characters ever
>endwalker
emet carries again
>dawntrail
dunno i quit
Imagine IF DRG moved towards the 11 style where man and dragon work together.
It would make sense now that the Dragonsong War is resolved and there is peace
Estinian and Vritra have been kind of acting that way for a bit
>>717296510necron is a dungeon boss
>>717296609>ryne is one of the worst characters evertf
>>717296567Kinda like how SAM has counterattack abilities MNK would usually get, or how PCT fulfills the BLM job fantasy of cycling elements better than BLM does, or how WAR has all DRK's lifesteal. They need to start from square one with a lot of jobs.
>>717296606scared you wont get a seat at the WWE SUUUUPERRRR SLAAAAAAAM
>>717296729I am fully prepared for the bald meltdown if DRK ever steals the drain-tank gimmick from WAR.
>>717296639I wouldn't like that myself. Not a fan of the idea of DRG as a pet job. I'd rather it just have high mobility and dart around and call on dragon power (Nastrond, Stardiver, etc.)
>>717296639Know I was thinking we were going get a dragon summon with how dragoonโs sb class quest ended
>>717296276Anything. Everything.
>>717296639Lone-wolf chuuni spearfighter with a fetish for betrayal and acting aloof is cooler
>>717296778It really should be. Warrior should be "I AM TOO ANGRY TO FEEL PAIN" or "THE PAIN JUST MAKES ME HIT HARDER".
>>717296405Make all dragoons attacks into jumps and would be the best class in the game or maybe like 90% of the gcds and ogcds
>>717296707https://youtu.be/LkIN4Zu9Wsw?t=51
sorry anon
also, on rewatching this i wonder if we'll get a faceheel turn from meat sphene
>>717296925WAR's interesting for that in how tacked-on its lifesteal gimmick is, nothing alludes to it and there's nothing in any of its quests or lore that suggests it doing that, DRK DOES because of it dabbling in dark magic and dark powers that would normally be considered Void aligned
I would give DRK Bloodwhetting and give WAR The Blackest Night both under different names
>>717296974Guessing the twink will become a monkey then
>>717297073>give DRK Bloodwhetting and give WAR The Blackest NightOh thatโs horrible I hate that
>>717297073most people don't understand exactly what Hit Points are. they're not 'a numerical value indicating how much injury you can take before you die' its 'how willing you are to fight'
while keeping your blood inside will keep your HP up, so will steeling yourself versus fear, ignoring pain and keeping your morale high. this is why you lose HP from the monster screaming or shrieking, its because its shaking your resolve. this is why bards can restore HP in most fantasy games and why you are just as potent at 1 hp as your are at 100
will lil nigga finally get to do something
predictions on the next tank class? i was thinking mystic knight or something that uses a hammer kinda like nero in the praetorium but that'd probably be too similar to WAR
>>717297073Yeah, it feels weird that they gave it to WAR and leave DRK with... what? Exactly? A barrier, more or less, and some regular mits. Was someone confused on the team?
>>717293903you really shouldn't go too much by the whims of fotm friends
It'll be some styler from Solution 9 wearing street glam and his magic move will be to suck himself off while bending 360 degrees outta the room.
I'm not excited, I just feel a pain in my left nut anytime I think of this
>>717297807Anon I think you need to go see a doctor, you may have testicular torsion
>>717285116 (OP)Just play OSRS lmao nigga
No one is playing this dead slop
>>717297171>stupid kid goes muh evolution>turns into a monkey kujalmao.
>>717285116 (OP)Fuck all these pantywaist fags going WOKETRANNIES and whatnot.
If you like a well-crafted story with interesting characters who grow on you, I think you'll have a good time. It DOES take a while to ramp-up though. You start the game as just some no-name moron who got put into a situation, so you aren't given a lot of "good stuff" story-wise until I'd say around level 20ish. By then a lot of the characters have dropped their guard around you and you become just another part of the team and whatnot, so you get to learn more about them, the world your in, etc.
There are some legitimately funny as fuck parts, some melodramatic parts, some parts that are akin to "The Red Wedding" from Game of Thrones in terms of shock value and such. Some twists, some turns, some twists that any person should see coming a mile away.
It's got a lot to offer the player as far as the Main Story Questline is concerned.
Insofar as the players themselves, most are pretty cool, but the obnoxiously loud players and such do get to be grating at times. I, personally, almost always never paid them any mind, but your mileage may vary.
>>717294787>>717296606speen is single handedly holding the DT story together at this point
she's so cute
>>717285116 (OP)i used to be straight before playing ffxiv
Maybe DouTei will be the bad one. The horse drawing where it's like perfectperfectshitperfect.
Maybe they finally make a game out of this game again.
at 9,9m MGP constantly (especially with the tomestone grinding in Gold Saucer) so dumping 100k MGP at once every so often to do gold card gacha lmao.
When does the patch release, in how many hours?
>>717298686game goes down in 2 and a half hrs.
For 9 hours.
>>717297579They said they wouldn't be using past jobs anymore. So likely something completely new.
>>717297591dark knight is themed around counterattacks, dirty fighting, and "revenge", and TBN is pretty much the only method they have remaining to communicate that idea
it doesn't mean however that they can't or won't retool it in the future to either more clearly express that idea or even just ignore it, like machinist having enough wiggle room to go for the edgar styled gadget fighter after most of its heavensward and stormblood life spent trying to go a bit harder on the gunfighter mustadio side of it
>>717285116 (OP)>2.95MB/syou won't be playing this week anon
>>717298686at 6 pst, in 2.5 hours.
patch usually won't hit the launcher till a few hours after maintenance starts. once you can download the patch, datamining becomes possible and as such spoilers
>>717298457endwalker was the bad one
>>717298146Itโs going be a monkey or crab, place your bets
>>717285116 (OP)>what am I in for? in nine hoursSome good Big Black Roegadyn gooning sessions!
>>717299253Did you say Big Black Roegadyns???? NICE
>>717299253>>717299324I hope your parents are not aware of your behavior.
In 6-9 hours FF14 ends forever as we know it. Either the game is saved, or it is sunk.
>>717299619I don't think its that serious yet.
8.0 though...
>>717299728Then you haven't been paying attention.
>>717299846the only thing at risk is athenaareia's ragebait career if 7.3 doesn't magically destroy the game
>>7172997287.3 is the indicator in terms of story. They had a year of complaints with plenty of time to plan and implement course correction.
8.0 is the indicator in terms of gameplay and Job design
>>717299728every patch is a pivotal point
sure the game truly doesn't end until we see what they got for 8.0
but this patch will be a decent indicator of how they intend to course correct this god awful expansion, and how 8.0 might look
never mind that they have been trying to since release
course correcting is important as all the issues this game has cannot be solved with just a good patch
which modernslop you guys goin for when the servers come back
>>717296510Is that LotA and Dalmasca in the portals?
How good are the armor in this game?
I haven't played since the start of 7.1
what are the chances of this sphene joining the scions after all is said and done
>>717300314None, I don't like them
>>717300039i hope they banish the whole writing team.
>>717299728my goals for it:
>give reason to give a damn about Tural>a satisfying conclusion to Sphene's little arc>a satisfying conclusion to Calyx's current plans>a proper stinger
>>717300509Ranges between mediocre and good, artifact armors for jobs are almost always a sure bet because they're emblematic of each job and its core aesthetic
Drachen Armor for Dragoon from ARR has pretty much been the game's promo set for a decade
>>717299963kek.
why are you calling xir by xir chosen name though?
>>717300652none of them will happen.
>>717300741the tummy window for the female drachen set cannot be topped
>>717300520Sphene is the most popular character introduced since Erenville.
Her becoming an A list scion? I'd give it about a 25% chance. I think they'd do it the same way they did the Exarch. I think the most likely thing though is that she'll just remain the queen of alexandria alongside gulool ja. boring
>>717300741Did the graphical update do it justice?
>>717300850Meh, graphical update was overall a loss. Unnecessary for the resources they put into it compared to the outcome.
>>717300805they're in order of likelihood, from least likely to most. they've gotten good at stingers.
i really don't know what they could do with Calyx. him 'dying' or getting deleted seems just as likely as him suddenly having an ascian sigil. i personally think he'll be the antagonist of act 1 of 8.0. he knows too much to go down so quickly, and he's not even real, very likely the only time we've seen him is the stinger of 7.2
>>717300850It and Warrior are the most improved out of all the ARR artifacts, I think.
>>717300992i hope not hes tainted by hiroi slop. i want 8.0 to be new.
>>717300815>mfw texture updates for AF so it doesn't look like ps3shite anymore
PLEASE tell me the modern outfits are stopping after Dawntrail. I'm so fucking sick of this shit
>>717300629What are they then? I'm having a brainlet moment
>>717301221lindblum and burmeicia.
>>717285116 (OP)You're in for professional voice acting from the leading stars of today
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bHoE5jiNJM
>>717300938You do know that everything they did for it also applies to newer stuff, right?
>>717301408Qualify your post, while examining the resource cost.
>>717301483reaching critical armchair-development levels
>>717301210No, but they will be restricted to crafted outfits and the cash shop like before.
Can I look like Dark Knight Cecil in this game?
>>717301030>tfw can use Drachen pieces in my DT era glam set without it looking offFeels good man.
>>717301586Irrelevant post, non-sequitur response.
>>717301601Closest set is Stormblood's Abyss set but its textures and materials haven't been updated yet so it still looks a bit plasticine.
>>717301601In regards to the helmet yes, there's something very close, there is no skin tight bodysuit for that Amano Dark Knight look.
>>717301483>>717301651>examine the resource costnavel gazing armchair development
>>717301295Oh you're prob right I can't retain anything in DT worth shit. I only remember them being offhandedly mentioned in text only
>>717301601The helmet is in. You get it from the Heavensward Collectors edition.
>>717301483Most of the work that went into the graphical update also just went into the overall overhaul of the engine that makes the quality of shaders and textures in newer content better than it used to be on top of contributing to updating older stuff.
>"I feel a little sorry that we weren't able to properly depict her. We may have been able to make her more straightforward, so we're pushing her in the forefront as this character. But again, we're going to be reflecting that learning into [content patch 7.1] and onward, we're hoping that we can show more of what makes Wuk Lamat so great, and I'm hoping that we can regain from there." - Naoki Yoshida
Yoshi was serious when he said this. Wuk Lamat is not going anywhere, until you understand why she's so great
>>717301926Graphically yes, most of it was done in house the idea was to cut costs by standardising design across the 3d models, but arguably it changed the look of many 3d models and they can't revert them back to the originals as the originals were created by an outsourcing development studio, Virtuous Singapore who no longer works with CS3.
People are asking for a toggle option for the older graphical models, the option to keep the current but it's impossible.
There was a large amount of people very upset, especially in Japan due to the graphical update ruining the look of their own characters.
People in NA think you can simply mod it back, and it is a work-around in the west but most people in the East, in Japan play on Console so this issue has been particularly stinging for them.
It is as big an issue for the JP console base as the MSQ is for Casuals.
There have been multiple threads on JP Official forums that have thousands of pages, detailing how upset they are with the graphics update, but people have been proactive in recommending changes particularly 3d render artists have shared their work, for free in those threads.
>>717302126this is at exact odds with how wuk was depicted in 7.1 and 7.2, ie barely. it was jarring
>>717302126What are all of our psychotic retards going to do when Wuk Lamat says goodbye forever in 7.3?
Are they going to deny reality and insist she'll come along in 7.4? Are they going to kill themselves? Are they going to rant and rave because her departure from the story wasn't in her death?
Sure, the MSQ is shit this time around but would you guys say the armount and quality of the current content barring the MSQ has been good compared to previous expansions?
>>717302619she's gonna get Lyse'd harder than Lyse.
the earliest we'll see her again is 7.5 where an event takes place in tural and she'll join us for a instance battle or something
>>717302626I wouldn't even say MSQ is shit, it just drags on. Amount of content is amazing, quality is hit-and-miss. It was like this while stuff was actually coming out in Stormblood and that's retroactively my favorite expansion. Reserving judgment on deep dungeon until it's out.
>>717302282>People are asking for a toggle option for the older graphical models, the option to keep the current but it's impossible.so?
are you honestly trying to undermine the update by citing "muh character's mole shifted 1 pixel" loons?
>>717302818stormblood is dogshit.
>>717302850you don't understand
they're JAPANESE
With the game going done soon what should I play?
>>717302619>What are all of our psychotic retards going to do when Wuk Lamat says goodbye forever in 7.3?Cry about the fact that Wuk was around until 7.3 for 10 more years.
>>717302850>Trying to undermine the updateYou're attempting to use psychological blackmail in order to manipulate my response, as a defensive strategy to deflect from the information provided.
In short, you've no interest in discussing the graphic update and the outcome, but you do want to shut down any presumed erroneous talking point of which you're not versed.
Also another way of saying you've no idea what to say so you want the conversation to stop without losing face.
>>717285169this bullshit ruined the game for me
>>717303241Rock and stone brotha I'll play with you if you want
Chose the perfect time to pick the game up again and make a female hrothgar. Didn't even know I wouldn't be able to wear most head gear, but my disappointment comes to an end soon.
>>717285116 (OP)Play final fantasy xi instead, it's an actual video game rather than an over-rated visual novel.
>>717285116 (OP)nothing with that download speed lmao
>>717303421Genuinely thought they'd never do it
>>717303293So true. The only thing we can discuss about the update is the bad things (a few deranged nuts on the forum are assmad the facial features of their character are half a mm displaced).
>>717285116 (OP)what the? the patch is already up?
>>717303437Actual gay retard. Final Fantasy XI is fucking good. It's fucking good and fun. Whore.
>>717303437>it's an actual video game rather than an over-rated visual novel>target mob, choose "attack">tab out while I swing>tab back in when I have 1000 TP to use an attackits more of a VN than xiv
>>717303507Why do you think you're able to discuss the update at all when you're lacking even in fundamental awareness of the purpose of the update from the studio design?
Iโm planning on making a new Hroth char, probably starting PLD but moving into Ninja as the focus, even though last I tried it it was killing mah fangers.
Also I wanted to finally do some content I never did on my main, like BLU and the Hildebrand quest line. Is BLU still approachable these days without an FC or what have you? I should probably try to find one for Deep Dungeon stuff too thoughโฆ
>>717304010depending on your server novice network will jump at the chance to help a sprout out. use and abuse it
>>717302126>Proceeds to silently cut multiple MSQ scenes of Wuk Lamat and put less emphasis on her in 7.1 and 7.2Bro, you fell for his lies again
>>717304128>entire character concept is a ploy to make post-shadowbringers migrants start peeling their own skin off in rage and ostracize themselves from the game's larger community, excising themselves like a canceri never doubted you, yoshi-p
>>717303987Don't worry. I also think another bad part of the graphical update is that they used it to make awfully racist conquistador armors. It got so bad even a Korean person had to call it out for being GROSS! And Koreans are Asian, which as you know are infallible and always right.
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>>717301030>log in to check if anything changed with regular outfits>they just applied materials onto them so they look like less shit but any part that has non-blank textures still look blurry as shitlol
How hard was it for these hacks to just run the OG texture files through some upscaler AI? Seriously
>>717304379Find a 2x4, it has the same proportions and personality.
>>717304607what an impossibly specific thing to get triggered over
Square enix should mail out a t-shirt to all the players saying "I survived Dawntrail" as a trophy for putting up with that rancid dog shit. The absolute worst jrpg story experience Ive ever had and I doubt it will get dethroned in my lifetime
>>717304693FF6 is worse and I am not kidding at all.
>>717303948you're right, i'd much trather do fetch quests for 30 different npcs for four hours then kill three easy monsters at a quest location then go back to reading more dialogue., what was i thinking
>>717304739I think you need to leave.
>>717285116 (OP)Cutscenes, cutscenes, cutscenes, plot exposition. Game doesnโt open up until youโve done 300 hours worth of all the campaign and main missions
Incoherent, batshit post collages are my favorite neo-trancerism.
>>717300039>8.0 is the indicator in terms of gameplay and Job designDon't get your hopes up man. We've been on this path since 4.0. I protested the combat streamlining when it was first announced at the Stormblood fan fest (if you listen to the keynote you can hear me scream 'NO!' from the audience when they say they're cutting Fracture). The animations and presentation have always been on point, but this team figured out their combat formula decades ago and they have neither the design chops nor the courage to change shit now. We're hitting 2 minute bursts and walking in, out, spread, stack every single patch 'til the end of time.
>>717285169Thatโs why you play on the Japanese servers to avoid wh*toid gooners
>>717304338>from the game's larger communityYou do realize Zeev has lost 70% of the playerbase right? You retards clinging onto this shit are the minority.
>>717285116 (OP)>ARR sucks>Heavensward is really good>Stormblood story is meh, good art direction, get a GF basically though you do get somewhat side lined by her>Shadowbringers really good though lacks much needed content that people expected because Covid>Endwalker also good as it also concludes the main story, setting up a whole new one>Dawntrail is start of new story but it's absolutely horrendous, worst writing in the entire game, and if you use English dub, it's even worse as the new character who side lines you completely is voiced by a tranny who also can't voice act or sound feminine
>>717304870and all just to say "i'm not owned! you didn't own me! yoshida didn't own me!" over an imaginary joke scenario too
>>717285116 (OP)Have fun trudging through hundreds of hours of boring garbage quests just to get to the occasional fun trial/alliance raid. HW and ShB have goated stories though so at least you have that to soften the blow
>7.3 has no custom deliveries
>>717305192because no one from tural is interesting enough to warrant one
except maybe mablu and wuk evu
>>717305192It's wild they were adding 3 per expansion from Stormblood to EW. I have all the achievements from them too, so I have a feeling they'll do only 2 this expansion.
Because honestly you can only do two clients per week anyway, and the EXP gain is the same no matter which tier you're doing.
>>717302126I want to see shim die a death like you would see in happy tree friends
The Guild Wars 2 is objectively better than the Final Fantasy 14, you silly trannies!
DEAL WITH IT!
>>717305431They could have gave it to that one lion dude to help rebuild the birdโs village
Why do I see a player zoning in and out of a deep dungeon? Are they hacking to get a map with accursed hoards?
>>717305918probably
that's what I did when I was farming for the accursed title
>This dude ITT who's been running daily damage control for Dawntrail since 7 0 release is STILL here, still running nonstop damage control
>He's invented numerous thread enemies he's convinced himself are the source of literally all criticism towards the expansion
He does it all for free btw
>>717305918There are addons that will tell you if it has it and where it is on the map.
I go to sleep tell Yoshida to not bring the servers back up too early, I wanna be here for the story meltdowns
>>717304887Probably, but I'm saying 8.0 is the position specifically because of the level issue. They've stated they want to stop at level 100, so one of 3 things happens in 8.0.
>They say fuck it, go to level 110, add a new capstone ability, and everyone knows its fucked forever>They stop at level 100, don't implement any new progress system or job changes, and the game dies because design stagnation is the death of expansion based MMOs>They stop at level 100, rework the jobs in some way now that jobs have an end point, and implement some new progress systemRegardless of the option, 8.0 is the decision point specifically because it's the 100+ expansion.
>>717285116 (OP)Empty map with nothing to do, nobody in sight, dungeons are just about sprinting through as fast as possible, story is just doing errands for people, and it constantly goes down for maintenance. It's awful.
>>717285116 (OP)a very easy early game since they nerfed the shit out of everything
it'll be a slower starting MMO than pretty much anything you're used to because it's heavily story focused, this is both a positive and a negative since unlike other MMOs it has something to hold you over until the gameplay actually becomes challenging
Oh and kino music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9f44iJftVM
>>717304906Enjoy never talking to anyone. Ever.
>>717306019I'm pretty sure I've found out who this Homestuck fella is, there's a guy on r/shitpostxiv named Oograth in the Hat who's responsible for at least half of the threads there whiteknighting Dawntrail and seething about "doomers". A cursory glance at his posts and you can see he has a very similar posting style and argumentation style as our dear Honestuck. He also has a Bluesky account by the same name, as well as a YouTube channel by that name (which seems to be as old as his reddit account so its definitely the same person). On his YouTube you can see that he's also a fucking MLP lover.
https://www.reddit.com/user/Oograth-in-the-Hat/
https://m.youtube.com/channel/UC6-DEvg0MfEqzmHwRY_p2Pg
https://bsky.app/profile/oograth-in-the-hat.bsky.social
You think they'll ever add more minigames and puzzles in the MSQ instead of the point and click stuff?
>>717306658The bodyswap instance event was so cool
The Thancred MGS event was ok too
And some people bitched they was too hard...
>>717306647rare sphene tum...
>>717306842don't get too feisty that's a trancer posting it
>>717306019>resub for a month with every expansion to play the story and do some of the raids on release>didn't come back with dawntrail for obvious reasons>still shill ityou'll never stop me but even I won't defend that garbage
>>717306647fuck off reddior
>>717306647Homestuck plays on Coeurl so if you can find out what server that guy plays on that would be helpful. I don't think it's him though even though the writing style is somewhat similar.
>>717307092no...
EOS after all?
The doomers won
>>717307140>Homestuck playsDOOMERBROS..... WE LOST
>>717306981What's funny is that not even leddit wants them lmao.
>>717307298I used that word loosely. By "plays" I mean he loiters in Pearl Lane while he posts about how much he wants to fuck overweight animals on /trash/.
>>717307427Ah you were talking to yourself nvm
I've never seen this so called Homestuck but I sure as hell see you niggas bring him up all the time
>>717285169Based on EVERYONE I know that's ever played FFXIV except for one dude, this
>>717307489He's really easy to spot. Just look for the really smug somethingawful style posts that repeat every day or so.
>>717304693>The absolute worst JRPG story experience Ive ever hadDawntrail is bad, but if you want to see something even worst play star ocean 4, i was in disbelief on how bad the story, and dialogue was in that game.
>>717307632>Stuff from last year or older
>>717307679Just scroll up for a repeat post in this very thread.
>>717304607
>>717296609>ryne is one of the worst characters everr u gay
>>717306071That's a fair point, if any expansion were to break the trend it would be the 100+ one. Since we're hopium-posting, it'd be sick if the pvp team took over the pve side and reworked the entire game to feature waves of multiple heavy hitting enemies that required cycling between crowd control, limited aggro tools, and constant defensive maneuvering from all party members. Alienate the entire audience, but at least it'd be a change of pace.
>>717285341The Japanese are stubborn as fuck, unfortunately. It's why they'll never retcon Dawntrail or rewrite it to make more sense and feature anyone other than Wuk Lamat for 95% of it and out-pace her mentions against 12 years worth of other characters. They'll keep investing in shit systems like the moon that's just "boring-ass Levequests but with other people nearby" and Occult Crescent which is just "A giant Unreal Engine 5-looking Generic Island reusing Bozja and Eureka ideas even though those are both dead content areas just like this will be"
They'll never bring back Class Diversity.
They'll never tell a story as good as Shadowbringers & Endwalker again.
They'll never return to 3month patch cycles.
They'll never learn from mistakes like the shitty cash shop additions lately or the blacklist ID debacle
They'll never mix up the cycle of four 8mans > one 24man > four more 8mans > 2nd 24man > final four 8mans > final 24man.
You will never be a woman
Well /v/ thoughts?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7jpI86AZa34
>>717307974He's very protective of Kaiyoko Star for some reason.
>>717307784NTA and I don't even hate Ryne, at least not until Eden but
>I want to fuck them = good characterIs room temperature IQ logic
>>717308025That dude is cringe and I refuse to watch anything from him
>>717303071You realize this is a Japanese game?
my xivvas are we thinking the trial is necron or calyx?
>>717308083He hates the Japanese. See pic related
>>717307735
>>717305578They did one in 6.3 and one in 6.5 as well, so I wonder if they're really skipping them for DT.
>>717308025Didn't this unfunny mutt go through like three different humiliation rituals live? Like putting on a dress and painting his nails.
>>717308150Calyx(forma de necro)
>>717285116 (OP)A "multiplayer" game in which you never interact with anyone.
>>717308010Play something else then, I am enjoying the game every day
what did you guys do up to the end of 7.2?
i queued for paradigm's breach just to make people do it with a time limit
>>717306019>>717306647Are you upset that the narrative is out of your hands again, lil buddy?
>>717308052I think he's just a contrarian tbqh
>>717308332Legitimately was busy jorking my paenits to lalafells so this post is incredibly timely
>>717308332based CT cucker
I forgot to do my subs and just turned in some last minute tomes
>>717308332I was busy taking pictures of the EW AF gear to compare against in 7.3.
... I failed.
>>717308070but whats so bad abt her other than being a retard and summoning shiva that makes her "one of the worst characters ever"
the only possible conclusion is that anon hates hebe pussy
is the stuff leading up to heavensward still a massive slog of "pray return to the waking sands"?
>>7173084722.x is the slowest part of the game yes. unless you enjoy political intrigue
>>717308472yes and no. It's still there but at some point they updated to massively cut down on the filler
>>717308472yeah it's basically primal of the week sorta thing. with some smattering of imperial stuff. and you have to do CT
>>717308070ummmm eden was like THE PEAK raid it had the cute lesbians :3
>>717308332Hunts and HoH solo. Im 20 S ranks from getting the shb mount and 100 away from EWs. I probably will stop chasing hunt mounts from here on out unless there is one I really want. I can get into a whole tirade why I hate the activity but I wont.
>>717308332I've played Nier Automata and kinda understand the story behind it, beautiful game that I would recommend but story a bit convoluted and absolutely needs more research to understand.
Luckily I have this. If you're wide awake and have nothing to do for a few hours you can watch this while waiting for the patch to go live.
https://youtu.be/9WU1mvH6bqo?si=NWK0lI0xkAr4e_-h&t=1
>graphics are being updated
my poor pc...
please don't be too demanding
>>717308613Nier Replicant was one of the most depressing games I ever played
>>717308573Ramuh Leviathan and Moogle Mog should be made optional like the Warring Triad, Doman Auspices, and Sorrow of Werlyt just to make it less of a slog for new players
>>717308672if you can already handle dawntrail it'll be fine it's more textures and materials updates for existing gear
>>717308672It's just some gear for this patch it seems, since I didn't see any mention of zone changes (but that could just be omitted).
EW AF gear, part of the Manderville relics, two regular Stormblood katana models (for some reason?) The Eastern Garlean LARP armor you get during Yanxia quests, and Hien's gear.
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>>717304010Shut the fuck up faggot, kill yourself and fuck your mother, goddamn retard, no one gives a shit. Shove your blog up your asshole.
>>717304338>post-shadowbringers migrantsBro I started on 2.0 launch day in 2013 and I cant' stand Wuk
>>717308332I got done with my WT so I can have three of the new maps
>>717308609is it because hunts are monopolized by ultrautists and hasn't changed as an activity since heavensward when everyone got their own B rank?
>>717308798kys nigger spammer
>>717308879sure but did you start posting about her every day and start begging for her to be retconned from the game and start following AI generation youtubers that run FF16 footage while bitching about FF14? we aren't talking run of the mill wuk dislike here we're talking about obsessive haters
>>717308879Well actually you're titanmen and you bought your account to doompost the game because you're mad about Zodiark so there.
>>717308914yeah i forgot to not turn in my WT book this week. so i'm short 500 tomes.
though you'd have gotten a braaxskin map from last week's anyway
>>717308613Nier Autotomato isn't that convoluted desu
and i say that as someone who really likes the game
>>717308972No I just unsubbed until I see if 8.0 is any better than DT
So either doomers or hopers are going to be devastated tomorrow.
Actually, scrap that. Probably only hopers since if something happens against the doomer agenda, then they'll just move to the next goalpost or thing to bitch about.
>>717285116 (OP)A mildly kino slog
Followed by a mildly kino slog set of patches
Then a kino expansion followed by kino patches then a kino expansion followed by kino patches then a kino expansion followed by kino patches then a kino expansion followed by divisive but I believe kino patches then steaming festering dogshit followed by a couple patches that have been trying desperately to salvage the situation, in a few hours will be the third such patch and many are predicting the death of a character who if does die will lead to even more people dropping the game.
>>717309081see it ain't about you. calm down. relax. have a handful of skittles. there's hating wuk and then there's being obsessed with wuk
>>717308613Now go play Drag-on Dragoon
>>717309152I played the series in such a backward order
Started with Automata
Then played Replicant
Gonna start Drakengard 1
Then end with D3
>>717308613you need to play drakengard 1 and 3 to get all the references in the nier raid as well as nier and near tomato
>>717285116 (OP)To start with don't worry about gil, all the gear you need you will get from dungeons and quests, you'll need to save your gil for teleport taxes, especially if you join a free company early
On that note, don't join an FC based in Kugane. Teleporting away from there can be expensive for new players
Next when you find a job you like stick with it throughout at least ARR, don't try to level up all the jobs simultaneously.
You get an experience bonus the larger the gap between your highest job is from the job you're leveling
>>717289359But what about female players?
>>717309281The music in Drakengard isn't terrible, it's actually brilliant. It's just not pleasant to listen to standalone.
Can the musicians topped paved in solitude? for SOUUUUUULLLLLLL or will it be wacky fighting music techno beats
>>717289283well, then you go and talk with a person, whats the problem?
>>717308332i played genshin because i'm a masochist and hate myself
also i got the new robot so i needed to gear her
>>717300561The director is the problem, as long as Yoshi is there every writing team will be heavily constrained by progressive ideology.
>>717309426possibly. .3 trial songs tend to be emotionally charged so i'm looking forward to it
>>717300815It looks cool on the big damn hero protagonist but giving in to NPCs was retarded
>>717309563You realize Yoshida was around for the other expansions too? And arguably MORE involved during ARR/HW since they had to prove themselves after rebooting
>>717285116 (OP)>what am I in for?
>>717309573I'm just expecting a Necron remix in the style of the Zeromus one
>>717309671worst chart i've seen in a while
>>717309679if necron is the trial that is. course there's levels of references. how dense the memberberries are. like p8s being a emperor palamecia reference
>>717309629You realise people aren't born progressive, it's a mind virus.
>Graphical adjustments have been made to player character models based on feedback from the community.
Is there any information on exactly what details they are changing?
>>717309857lalas now have large breasts and butts
>>717309857they finally perfected that lalafell chin they showed off at fanfest.
Can't wait to see the huge list of PvP Job adjustments while the normal Job adjustments are +10 Potency on MCH or some shit.
>>717309857Please oh please let it make the Official Forum schizos flip out again. That shit was so funny
>>717309857>Female Lalafell player models now have a roll of condoms attached to the belt region of all chest gear. This new feature cannot be hidden.
>>717309857Making femra titties even smaller (and that's a good thing!)
>>717309671Nigger what's this Chinese shit, left to right top to bottom.
>>717309931>Implied condom usageI will now unsubscribe
>>717309679They could make it more somber. Mix it with Paved In Solitude, etc.
>>717310076Anon if you impregnated a lalafell with your hyur seed the baby would be too big for her tiny body
>They finally put Enshroud on a low CD
>>717308384>>717308405>>717308434>>717308609>>717308613Very neat. After I finished the Nier raid I decided to head over to Balmung with my Big Black Male Roegadyn EB to have some fun, if you catch my drift :). Anyway, despite all the doomposting, I've still really been enjoying my time with Dawntrail so far.
>>717310076They don't use them as contraceptives, it's purely for condom play.
>>717309671Mostly accurate but I'd honestly put my EW dropoff as being as soon as Elpis started. The memory mcguffin was the dumbest shit. That's when I knew that the fujos had won.
>>717309679Necron's in the dungeon. Calyx is gonna go SSJ and it'll be Dark Messenger. I'm expecting it to just be an incredibly bland rearrange that's not even at the right speed like Exdeath.
>>717285116 (OP)Absolute kino from hw to ew. Arr is comfy but boring so play while drinking and or with friends
Dt is aids
>>717285192why you didn interact with anyonhe in 250 hours?
are you afraid to talk with people?
Full patch notes up https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/topics/detail/c04405c6cbe8519a0b6c8aa5e4d88a5d447419c9
Nothing will ever top Zeromus so who cares.
>>717308332I played other games, I even checked out tortanic for a bit it was alright I might play more at some point, mostly I did singleplayer games though. Last night I quickly jumped on to check out the end state of cosmic exploration and did namingways escort quest and a few normal trials from the party finder.
>>717309857Never is. But it's giving us another free fantasia, so nice I guess.
>>717310334>That Enshroud changeWe're so fucking back.
>>717310370Zeromus wasn't that great.
But the music was nice.
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A story that starts off very slow, ramps up to some amazing highs, and falls into a big low in the most recent expansion. I might suggest doing the free trial up through the first few expansions if you haven't already bought the game / paid for it. If you have I think its too late technically unless you use another account. But then you'd have to go through it again on your paid account or buy the expansion again on that one.
On the plus side, the latest expansion is essentially an entirely new story arch, so you'll get a complete, and genuinely very good story experience finishing the one before it.
Also great OSTs through and through.
Gameplay wise, its pretty fun, but the early combat is a bit dull. Much more enjoyable at higher level / end game stuff once you have all your abilities, but I guess thats typical of MMOs. Most of the complaints people have about jobs/combat are things you will not encounter yourself until end game (job homogenization or the two minute 2rotation/burst windows) and then you can make your own decisions.
You'll encounter an annoyingly high amount of these groups
>>717285169 unless you find yourself a nice group to play with in advance.
Despite its faults, I think it is still very much worth playing. For the story up through Endwalker, and for the raid content well its all pretty good through out even Dawntrail.
Well they fixed picto's hammer so it probably won't be a loss anymore but aren't they going to lose even more damage now that 111 has been nerfed? Or is hammer really that strong they have to tone down the basic combo?
>>717310323I hated Thavnair so fucking much both as a zone and as an addition to the lore of the game. Back in SB given the embassy, I thought we were going to get some sort of not-Dutch sort of nation + if you look at the Thavnair named clothing items they don't look like they'd come out of curry land. At least in Tural I could laugh at the lizards that think they're people, but there's no way you can tell me those elephant fucks were worth saving in Thavnair.
>No DRK buffs
CUT MYSELF INTO PIECES
>>717310460I don't play RPR.
Explain why this is good to me. Wouldn't you still need to burn through your combo before you can do it again? I assume that combo is much quicker than 15s?
>>717310658People get mad at DT but Thavnair was the same thing, I mostly hated how poorly designed the singular zone they gave it was.
>>717310334>Chat bubbles will not display when using performance actions, during battle, or during PvP encounters.They could be pretty useful in dungeons, this is dumb
>>717310779I'm glad its not in combat
>>717310727>I assume that combo is much quicker than 15s?Yeah it's over in just a few seconds, so now you can double enshroud with less time between bursts
>>717309909lol, just as expected
>still didn't get my nastronds back
MOTHERFUCKER
>>717310727it fixes the issue that reaper had versus viper, in that viper could use its cooldown phase back to back and reaper couldn't
when is paladin getting nerfed
>>717310690why the hell would the buff dark?
What's the worse possible way they'll graft XI onto XIV when the just a replica mask starts slipping off here
>>717304379Babysit a retarded cat in Brazil until you kill grok.
>>717310942maybe some kinda pointless alliance raid.. oh wait
>>717285116 (OP)Did they neuter the aggro mechanics in this game? I remember 12 years ago you used to have to try harder to keep aggro and some dickhead DPS could easily steal aggro if the tank is under geared or wasnโt doing his rotation properly. Now it seems like you can keep aggro by auto attacking as long as your tank stance is on.
WoW if the girls were hotter, the armor looked better, and everything else is 10x worse.
>>717310779The digest mentions theyโll probably reconsider it when gauging usages for it.
https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/520781
>>717310942Some kind of Echoes of XI
>>717311017Tanks didn't want to do their job, at all, so after a failed attempt at making DPS do their job for them, they just made it so Tanks get infinite aggro as long as they actually touch the enemy.
>>717310779For now, they just don't want it to lead to tactics where chat bubbles are mandatory.
But they probably will reconsider.
>>717292815https://youtu.be/ZZiFAvFkNtk i really like this song
i have like 3 fantasias that were given for free and i've never needed them
i love my thighlander
>>717311043>>717311104Thats gay. Tank role is super boring now.
>>717310779i don't understand why every single feature they implement has to come with caveats
When are they gonna buff Sceptors? I wanna 1-hand with my black mage.
is there a reason they feel like single target skills need to do more aoe damage?
>>717310334>5 potency on Diawe are so back bros
>>717311253Deprecated since end of ARR
Had some niche use in Bozja or some other content piece where you didn't actually use your equipped weapons iirc
>>717310727Right before going into burst you would have to enshroud first with like <9 secs on your raid buff, refresh your damage debuff twice and use 2 enshroud gcds to kill enough time for you to have the second enshroud up during burst, so now it will make it easier to set up.
>>717310942They chose not to, thankfully, but the alliance raid is the lowest effort way they could have gone about giving XI some recognition.
>>717311158See the problem here is you're not a miqo'te or an au ra so you're not as likely to be mentally ill.
>lv 15 warrior
>haven't come even close to dying
>aggroing and killing literally 20+ crabs above my level, barely a scratch
Makes me miss classic wow where 2 same-level random zone mobs puts you in a life or death situation.
Does it ever get hard? Other than whatever super mythic+ extreme raids you don't get until 300 hours into the game
>>717310334>Not even an attempt at fixing black mageI've resigned myself to mobility but couldn't they make some attempt to make it work better, baby steps are a better choice here so you can learn each change over time instead of suddenly having a totally different class come 8.0
>>717311441In the regular overworld? Nah. Especially not as a warrior.
>>717311441The world is not dangerous. Even if you somehow aggro a high level mob you can just run away easily
>>717311441you'll only have issues in the overworld if you're an undergeared dps
>>717311492you will get a full rework in 8.0 and you will like it
>>717285116 (OP)troonslop propped up by sunk cost cucks
>>717311581mite b cool actualy
>>717311441How are your attacks not missing if you're fighting mobs above your level
>>717311683ranting about homestuck didn't work. initiate the tried and true
>>717310942Fake Vana'diel becomes too much of a recreation to where CoD sniffs out XIV but then we just straight up kill her with o my azem o my dynamis and take a giant shit on RoV.
Will a full rework ever fix the input delay after pressing a key?
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Hello everyone, Mr happy here. Welcome to my guide on how to fuck a white bitch
>>717311770no cause thats a server problem and the japanese are retarded, just use noclippy like any sane person
>>717311808oh i know his ass gets booted out the instant he cums
>>717285116 (OP)I think it's subscription based so I never played it even though I bought it and I dont even remember when I bought it
>>717310183>I've still really been enjoying my time with Dawntrail so far.It's ok some people are just born mentally challenged. No shame in it.
>>717311808Wait is that a mirror outside? What is she taking a picture of? Also Happy should do some posture exercises to help raise his shoulders.
>>717310334>LITERALLY +20 potency to drill
>>717311979Damn I just cruised through EO on MCH so thatโs even nicer.
>>717311770nah that's a deeper seated thing
This is probably the best themepark MMO I've ever played. Unfortunately themepark MMOs still kinda suck ass and get boring very quickly.
The music is fantastic though, its worth checking out even if you have no interest in the game.
>>717311927And those people sit in xiv threads all day screeching about the game.
>>717310779I guess they don't want what happened with WoW's bossmods, where the addon would automatically make your character talk to create a chat bubble like:"[player] has living bomb!" that lets everyone else easily see what mech you have
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>not even in the top 10
dead troonslop
>>717311979and MCH is still gonna be bottom of the pile phys ranged
>>717312163Yea thatโs pretty much it, and knowing players they would try to force shit in pf
How long until leaks
Am I going to wake up to wuk schizo folder dumps regardless of whether she lives or dies?
>>717312292Hey I remember this youtuber he straight up doesn't write or narrate anything, he generates all of it with AI. What a fucking poser that he can't even hate the game without passing its buck off to a machine. What a fucking poser YOU are for taking him on as part of your radical folder.
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>>717312349whenever they allow the patch downloads, leaks will start rolling out shortly afterward
>>717312349Yeah the rage pig is gonna keep oinking no matter what happens. Leaks some time in the next few hours after patch data becomes available for download.
>>717312349you're presuming folderkun or any other shitposters actually play the game
>>717312408doomers are all soulless and creatively (and emotionally) stagnant.
>>717311492BLM is fine tho?
reminder to filter posts including images but without text and every thread on this board is immediately better
>>717312620why even lie so obviously
>>717312349foldie is gonna have to wait for someone to telephone game the plot of 7.3 before he can misrepresent it as egregiously as possible for the sake of the agenda
>>717312349Iโm dipping asoon as the pc patch goes up
>>717312349you got about 6 hours til the patch, hang out chill and shitpost til then my friend
>>717285169Fpbp
>>717285116 (OP)FF xiv tranny general thread
>>717289638Dawntrail sucks ass, but it's clearly setting up moving pieces. It's another ARR but sloppier. It also doesn't help that it comes off the coattails of the conclusion to a massive arc.
>>717310334>AOE heals buffed in rangeHeaven forbid I have to actually think about where I'm standing in relation to everybody else
If this is an upcoming encounter design thing couldn't they at least have made it a trait you get at a later level instead of fucking with old fights that have mechanics specifically designed to force the healer further away from others.
>>717311870gj missing out on the free trial
>>717312795this is cole evyx right
he was malding so hard about no ultimate in 7.3. it was hilarious
>>717308070>>717308446Ryne is a cute little bean who wants nothing more than to make you happy!
Guys, what if it's not Necron or Kuja, but...an original character?
>>717312851Yeah it's looking like all of dumpy's Youtuber idols are all fucking retards
>>717312252>Bad damage>No job identityJust
>>717312642Kys, the timer removal makes in particular paradox feel too tacked on.
>>717312741I don't believe the WoW propaganda. There is NO ONE getting into WoW without prior experience in the year 2025.
>>717312814maybe the next few fights will have an enormous battlefield
>>717312852wanna shag the hag
>>717312620Mating pressing this old man for lying
>>717312909you know the one ha ha ;)
Only mentally ill people still play this game. Everyone left after endwalker.
>>717312907Yea they should buff it to do more damage other then that itโs fine
>>717312716>caring about getting spoiled over any 7.x story oof, face-melting cringe
>>717312824Don't care I'm not about to pay monthly just to play a game, won't ever start
>>717312814Iโm sure ranged will still find a way to not get healed anon
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>>717312897what do you mean
this looks like a sensible person
>>717312909Coeurl's nice and temperate
>>717313253Even in Pagos? Have you been yet?
>>717312909There's something very chuddy about Ultros and very tranny about Faerie
>>717313298There's several layers of insanity to this post I'm not clued in on but I get the feeling you're gonna say I know exactly what it is and then give me a full rundown because you know I'm not your thread nemesis too
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>>717313410there's a new schizo poster that thinks everyone is one dude who thinks the zilart aren't written as well as the ascians and that proof of this is that he didn't know that cassie gives a lot of light for eureka relics
>>717313216Ultimate tards really need to be quiet for 5 more years.
>>717313053that's hardly a statement although he's basically asking if the developers know what the fuck they are doing
>>717313539Oh wow this game really has had WoW's torch passed to it then hasn't it. This is shit you'd normally have to go to WoW fan-sites to find
>>717304098I remembered hearing horror stories about Novice Network. Never touched it before.
>>717308818Be at peace brother.
>>717312909Doesn't really matter anymore, just don't choose an ESL one like Behemoth, Moogle, Shiva, etc
>>717313410>ugghhh i'm like soooo confused and have no idea what you're talking about but i do know you're alluding to a thread feud with a certain poster!Lol you're a fucking parody dude, you can't even play dumb properly.
>>717313624depends on the server. balmung's is really nice and helpful to the point of being draconian against people using it as a chatroom
its shitted up by people from off server, as is usual
>>717313684>ask a gibberish question>pretend thread schizos and retards with imaginary friends aren't normal on /v/>get mad when the obvious correlation is made>lose all ability to act when ecker frontends for ban evasion go down
I don't fucking get it everybody in these threads is already heavily negative, what's the point of the folder dumping.
>>717313769>everybody in these threads is already heavily negativeAre we, now?
PHOENIX DOWN BROS WE ARE SO BACK
>>717313684How can you access the internet from the mental institution you're in?
How can you access the internet in a straitjacket?
>>717313836Yes, this thread is maybe a little different from people telling OP story is good pre dawntrail but for the future of the game everybody is doomposting anyway
>>717313701Good to know. I was thinking either Balmung Marlboro or Goblin anyways.
My experience on Aether last time was rather fascinating. I've seen more wipes on LoA alliance in on month there than I had seen in a few years on Crystal.
>>717313836Yes, delusional tranny, your samefag defense forcing in these threads isn't "shifting the opinion" on the game dying.
>>717313836Yep, even you're eternally seething because nobody likes your disgusting furtranny waifu.
>>717313769These threads are actually pretty fine when foldie (who is also the part-time doomer) isn't here. Critical, sure. But nowhere near the constant, unending stream of "wahh game dead wahh it will never recover"
>>717313904because all the shitters go to aether looking for a carry. mind you there are still shitters on crystal
>>717313769Im always fascinated in people existed just to dump images in a thread about a game they hate. Cant imagine a worse waste of time. I just come to these when patches and live letters hit. No reason to come any other time when its just this spam.
post some moded bimbo vieras
>>717313769Because Hydaelyn wasn't heckin evil while Zodiark was actually le good and that's made me wake up in the middle of the night screaming for years on end don't you understand
>>717313939Pretty easy to tell when he's not here, nobody's posting about trannies or trying to redirect every conversation to Wuk Lamat or posting about black cocks or screeching about Homestuck
For some reason "counter-spamming" triggers him really hard too I've noticed, stuff like modded viera porn when somebody from /vg/ is here and he totally flips his fucking lid and starts demanding their blood and wailing about /vg/
>>717313972>Im always fascinated in people existed just to dump images in a thread about a game they hate. Cant imagine a worse waste of time.You say this because it makes you seethe to see it, and it confirms to him that it works. All time spent on 4chan is a waste of time you fucking retard.
please kill wuk lmao
itd be so fucking funny
>>717314038>Pretty easy to tell when he's not here, nobody's posting about trannies or trying to redirect every conversation to Wuk Lamat or posting about black cocks or screeching about HomestuckYeah. The cutoff is always really obvious. You'll have people mostly discussing things like rational adults.
Then suddenly folder dumping, BPD dooming and sperging out about trannies, Wuk, Kate, Homestuck, whatever all starts at once.
>>717314038lalas irk him too
>>717313939You can get them to short circuit if you post their social media but mods throw a tantrum when you do like with the Barry pics.
>>717314140>if you post their social mediaHuh?
>>717314178The schizo stalks literal faggots on twitter and has convinced himself that everyone who hates Dawntrail is one of them and they're all the same person. It's severe mental illness.
>>717314178I can show you the world
>>717309280I went: 1.22 > dod1 > dod2 > automata > dod3
If i could go back tell myself what order to play them in, id play them like:
Ps3 repliCAN > dod1 > dod2 > dod3 > automata
>>717314290Is this AthenaAreia
>>717314119I will say he's done an absolutely masterful job of making it so that nobody but himself gives a shit about Kate Cwynar. Now I associate her face not with middling localizations or The Woke Menace, but with the presence of a fatherless lolcow.
should i use one of my three fantasias to turn back into a lala?
>>717314330I would still rather she get shitcanned (or at least demoted and chained to Koji's chair), but I sure as shit am not gonna spend every last moment of my life thinking about Kate fucking Cwynar.
>>717314178There's a handful of circlejerkers on Twitter that still get up to all the usual Zodiark Trancer stuff years later, endless shilling of WoW and endless habitual replying to randos they find that don't hate Dawntrail and begging for admissions of guilt from the FFXIV_EN corporate Twitter that doesn't usually respond to people in the first place. That volkeroathsworn account another fellow posted has a habit of changing his handle around when he's spotted but I'm guessing he doesn't care anymore since he hasn't in a fair bit. The larger circle can be found just from them replying to eachother.
>>717314373Wow, fuck that cat.
Shining, shimmering, splendid
>>717314373The emphasis of the "Yes" you receive is directly proportional to your current desire to be impaled upon Hyur penis
>>717314102Wicked nihilism man, I tip my fedora
>>717314467Who is irrelevant to the next patch?
>>717314373Always yes. Best race for fashion (because they can wear anything and it just works, including hats), best race for mounts (because most are resized to fit them perfectly), best race for emotes, best race for duties just because small and fierce.
>>717314434>There's a handful of circlejerkers on Twitter that still get up to all the usual Zodiark Trancer stuff years laterWait.. Endwalker was how long ago?
>>717314467would you call the dwarf from shadowbringers beast tribe?
what about the omicrons , loporits, aekasodara and the pelupelu? are they beast tribes ?
>>717314649>elvenresurgence jerking off athenaareia in his retweetsoh fuck i'm nooticing
>>717314714You know damn well that's not why it was changed. And you know that because it's a retroactive change, and because they already previously changed it to simply 'tribe'.
>>717314649I heard tell that the AthenaAreia guy had Venat/Hydaelyn in his video acting as a whiteknight strawman.
Can't confirm of course because like hell am I going to watch any of their deranged tripe.
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>seething paypiggies itt
>>717314714allied society fits pretty damm well to what they are. better than antribe
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Sorry Trancers, but I'm gonna haha, I'm gonna do it. Sorry, but I'm just gonna do it haha.
>>717314937AIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEE
>>717314937>no emetpiece of shit yoshitpiss
>>717314937NOOOOOO WHERE IS EMET??????
>>717314937>no emet-selch backgroundlmfao they knew
>>717315110Dusted him dude.
HOLY FRICK YOSHIDA GAVE THE TRANCERS AN EPIC CLAPBACK
>>717314937>Zenos backgroundNeat.
I don't use the regular launcher though unfortunately.
>>717285116 (OP)only game where i wandered into a player house, and found a basement full of naked lalafel dummies. Stay away frrom this shit.
patch is up already
see you on the other side
>>717314937NOO BUT YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO HATE HER SHE'S LUCIFER SHE'S AN EVIL BITCH WHO GENOCIDED EVERYONE SO SHE COULD REIN OVER THE INFERIOR SUNDERED LEPERS AS A SELF-MADE GODDESS
>>717314937>Wuk Lamat backgroundWell that'll be work well worth doing for all 10 people who love the Ape beast.
>>717315374That one was added a little while back. 7.1 or 7.2.
I remember people being really upset about that.
>>717315237Was this on Materia, if so where exactly was it so I can avoid it, haha
>one sleep until either dread or hope
welp
>>717315485Flip a coin heads dread, tails hope. Let me know how it lands remember to flip it once onto your hand.
>>717315564Juan and Venat for me.
no particular reason :^)
>>717315587That's actually a really good fucking glam.
(And it's also going to be overused to hell and back.)
>>717315587oh neat that's the reaper training doll innit
>>717315731yeah, the 6.3 dungeon one