Thread 717390738

Can I start with Yakuza 6 (as it's the one I happen to own) or is it a significantly better experience to just start at the beginning?

He owns the worst entry in the franchise.

>>717390738 (OP)
Buy 0. See if you like it.
Buy Kiwami 1 and 2.
Then buy 3, 4 and 5.
Then you can play 6.

>>717390738 (OP)
>>717391554
Play in release order.

Yakuza is a very story heavy franchise, you're going into what was originally marketed as the franchise protagonist's last ending. Just start at either 0 which is a prequel or Kiwami which is a remake of the original.

>>717390738 (OP)
I actually can not think of a worse jumping off point. Maybe 2? But then again it's at least early enough in the series you can kinda ignore the previous game(s). Start at 0.

>>717391582
Playing in release order only really makes sense if you're playing the original ps2 release of the first Yakuza game. With how much Kiwami adds to super tie into 0 you really should start with 0

>>717391000
7th*

>>717390738 (OP)
Why do you own only 6?

I started with LAD (7) English dub and got about 50 hours in before thinking I should probably start at the beginning instead
Then I played 0 for 100 something hours and completed it, moved to Kiwami and completed that and then got about 20 hours into Kiwami 2 before thinking I should probably start at the actual beginning.
Then I moved to Yakuza restored on PCSX2. Finished that and Yakuza 2 emulated.
Then moved onto Yakuza 3,4,5 on steam.
Currently 70 hours into Yakuza 5.
I think from what I've read 6 is a bit shorter

>>717391000
Not a weird question, there are a lot of games where it really doesn't matter because it tells an understandable standalone story.

6 is the worst place to start, despite many characters not returning or only showing up for a second. It's the one that was released to wrap up all the previous games.

>>717390738 (OP)
Start with 1 on the PS2, don't play Kiwami games, it's a fuckin awful and ugly demake, with removed content and worse cutscenes.

>>717391857
13th*
1, 2, Kenzan, 3, 4, Dead Souls, BP1, BP2, 5, Ishin, 0, K1.

Why they get rid of Haruka's dick sucking lips?

>>717390738 (OP)
You will understand nothing
Kiwami, 0, K2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, TMWEHN, 8
Not sure when to play Pirates since I never touched it
You can play Judgement around Yakuza 6/7 and Lost Judgement after Yakuza 7

>>717390738 (OP)
What a retarded question.

>>717391857
0 doesn't exist if you're a real fan

>>717395594
>Not sure when to play Pirates since I never touched it
It's 8 Gaiden. It takes place after 8, specifically 6 months after 8.
JE was after 6, before 7.
K1 is not before 0 and I have zero clue why you put it there. Not only did it release after 0 but is made with the expectation you played 0. It is not 1, it is K1, and treating it like 1 is completely and utterly incorrect.

>>717395753
huh? its the best one thoughbeit?

>>717396319
Kys 0 troon

>>717391396
Yakuza 6 is peak soul

>>717391396
thats not yakuza 4

>>717396710
He said worst, not best

>>717390738 (OP)
>just start at the beginning?
I'd recommend starting with Yakuza 0. Not only is it the beginning of the series, but of a lot of the prominent characters going forward.

I started with 1 and even if it's the most pushed so far and that people really oughta start from the PS2 classics, they will never make me hate 0

what is the problem with 0?
like assuming i play from 1-5 first

if you start with Yakuza 6 you are one of the absolute dumbest retards ever to step foot on this planet. start with 0, retard. don't listen to 0-deniers.

>>717395753
>>717396503
tell me what makes 0 so bad you cocksucker. I understand all the complaints about the kiwamis, especially related to majima, but whenever one of you fucks says 0 is bad you never present a reason.

>>717397382
>what is the problem with 0?
nothing, it's one of the best games in the franchse. don't fall for contrarianfag/nostalgiafag psyops. even the fucking devs want you to start with 0.

>>717397493
YWNBAW

>>717397382
You can straight up start with 0, it was specifically made in mind with new people coming into the series, don't listen to the retards in these threads.

>>717397521
>tranny nu-RGG devs want you to start with the tranny game
shocking!

>>717397528
Nice reasoning you fucking nigger

>717397587
i will be thanking God tonight that i'm not a cock smoking semen gargling faggot like this retarded piece of shit

Trannies finally show their true faces. Transkuza 0 and Like A Tranny will never be canon. Just like (You) will never be real women.

>>717390738 (OP)
Play the one with pocket circuit, it's the only good one.

>>717393374
logical failure

>>717397895
How? 6 is the 13th game in the series unless you count 1&2 HD as another release at which point 6 is the 14th since 1&2 HD came out before 5.

>>717395753
0, 1, 5 and 6 are all equally as kino. stop the cap.

>>717397382
0 is a prequel, there's literally no point in skipping it until u do any of the others. 0 haters are just retarded faggots who didn't want more backstory to flesh out their already established characters more AKA they made majima an actual human being instead of just a schizo retard.

Yakuza died with Nagoshi

>>717396831
Rubber bullets.

>>717397943
>he can't count
i feel sort of bad for you kyodai

>>717397587
>tranny tranny tranny!

>>717397705
(You)

>>717391582
Yakuza is the only series that I would say is an exception to this rule.
Yakuza 1 doesn't give you enough time with many of its key characters in order for the climactic and emotional moments to hit the way they're clearly supposed to.
Playing 0 first gives you that extra time with these characters which I feel very directly improves the experience of 1. Nishiki in particular benefits massively from this, and seeing as he's the core of the conflict in Y1 it seems pretty important to have a deeper understanding of his and Kiryu's relationship.

>>717391582
That's like telling someone to start DrakeNieR with Drakengard 1. They'll hate it, rightfully so, and possibly drop the series without knowing just how kino NieR is. Yakuza 1 on the PS2 was jank as fuck, and not in the "good bad" way.

>>717398156
Hit a nerve, troon?

>>717397587
>nu-RGG
But 0 is 10 years old
Nagoshi didn't leave until 2021

>>717390738 (OP)
This game could've been peak ludo kino if it was Kiryu actually tying up all knots/ repaying the debts from the past games instead of wasting resources to introduce yet another new location and set of characters that won't ever return

>>717398262
Nishiki benefits from it heavily but the downside is it causes issues with a few things related to other characters. Nishiki also gaining that backstory in 0 propels people into thinking he's super important in 1 when he's basically on the side for 90% of the game until the very end. K1's cutscenes at least help bridge the gap from normal egotistical guy to jealous egomaniac but still, his actual story appearances are still identical to 1 so barely any of the post-Jokerification of him is fleshed out, just the decline.
>Makoto is built up as this major romantic love interest for Majima which K2 then further reinforces, but then you get to 5 and all of that comes crumbling down because its flashbacks take place only two or so years after 0's ending and the letter directly contradicts the ending of Majima Saga.
>Majima also has an enormous and dramatic personality shift between 0 and 1 which people to this day still have issues reconciling despite the entire "I'll be your clown" scene that they don't even think it's the same character.
>Shimano is presented as this masterful planner and schemer who you have to be careful around instead of a random villainous bald man who is treated like a throwaway villain.
>Kazama is treated as this 30D chess master in 0 when he was basically just a hobbling old man whose best days were behind him in 1.
>Sera is treated like this incredible Yakuza member who is extremely responsible, secretive, and powerful when he does nothing but make constant mistakes over and over and looks like he's shambling along.

0 is a strong first game despite being an anniversary game but also sets up a bunch of expectations for new players both in the story and gameplay that 1 and K1 are just not prepared to address or smooth over.

So how hard did she rode the cock carusel during that year she went MIA after Ichiban proposed?

>>717398726
Isn't Hazbin Hotel's fandom full of trannies? so you kind of proved his point anon

>>717399379
not really, anon. just pointing out your inconsistencies.

>>717399424
Just saying, mixing the word "tranny" into games' titles and such is Reddit tier behavior.

>>717399463
what are you even talking about? besides, doesn't reddit love trannies?

>>717390738 (OP)
Y6 is probably the worst game in the series to start with except maybe Gaiden tbqhywf
start with 0 and then go release order

>>717399484
>what are you even talking about?
>>717397705

>>717399601
not everyone on here is the same person, mate.

>>717399628
I'm convinced this entire thread consists of 5 or 6 people including you and me.

>>717399694
i doubt it, that's some schizo shit. my first post was >>717399312

>>717399739
>my first post was >>717399312
Never said it wasn't.

If you aren't going to play the PS2 games, 0 is the logical starting point.

>>717399821
then why direct this >>717399463 at me, kek? also you didn't answer my question of "doesn't reddit love trannies?" because they do, so i don't see how that specifically is Reddit-tier behaviour.

can you fags get a room

>>717399905
You asked for an example. I quoted an example.

>>717399927
where did i ask for an example? going over my posts, i didn't ask for any examples of anything. wtf are you smoking anon.

Looney troon having a melty

>>717398836
Majima saga convinced me for good that Horii is cancer and got promoted to Yokoyama's right hand man for this reason. First time he got his hands on Majima was the Dead Souls karaoke, where according to Ugaki, Horii's idea was to record a completely straight and serious version of Majima singing a little girl song. Ugaki had to convince Horii to let him ad-lib this, actor knew his character better and managed to salvage the song.
By Yakuza 5, Horii was allowed to start writing more than just song lyrics, his biggest contribution was Haruka's part, mostly the princess league. You can bet your ass he was working with Yokoyama and was roped into the Park-Majima drama too.
Come Yakuza 0, Horii jumps on it and writes Majima singing romantic shit for women and doing it completely straight, no improvising, no mocking the lyrics. Turning point for the franchise, dumb roasties completely displace the old fandom.
I'm almost sure much of Majima Everywhere system was Horii's ideas. He was probably behind the kiwami heat actions as well.
By Kiwami 2 it's ogre. Entire Majima saga written by Horii, just doubling down on pussy slavery and rubbing hands at the merch revenue from f*male fans.

>>717400670
Based noticer

>>717400670
how do you even know any of that?

>>717402101
5ch, JP interviews, twitter accounts of devs.

Yakuza was officially dead to me after this waste of time

>>717396710
>>717396831
Akiyama's segment in 4 is the peak of the entire series.
But the rest of 4 kinda blows.

>>717404262
Tanimura is cool

>>717404490
He was kinda forgettable. And by that i mean that in the 7 years since i've last played Yakuza 4, I can only remember that he had an Aikido based fighting style and that he was the one to fight the final boss who fucking sucked because he was basically just Jingu, shooting at you while his guards attack you. And i took out Munakata first so the last enemy i fought in the whole game was just some random swat guy, which thematically sucks.
Shinada was the better one and done protag IMO.

>>717404856
He had the GOAT fight music THOUGH. That guitar riff was my jam.

>>717398262
0 secondaries seriously kill yourselves with your dogshit secondary takes

Why does Akiyama look like a plastic doll in Y6? It's very distracting.

>>717405073
But I didn't start with 0

>>717405207
You played it. That's enough to be considered a cock sucking fake fan.

>>717405073
yeah senpai Shinji, Reina, Kazama, Yumi and Nishki were such compelling characters in Y1, I'll remember their deaths forever

>>717396710
Yakuza 4 is boring but 3 is more annoying to play

>>717399598
>the worst game in the series to start with except maybe Gaiden
wdym RGG themselves said Gaiden is a great game to start with

>>717408034
Because after playing gaiden you'll want to start the game from 1 to 6

>>717390738 (OP)
slo

>>717390738 (OP)
dumb

>>717391000
but enough about 0

>>717397493
heat system
>>717397549
start with 3 or the original first two so you actually learn how to play

>>717392494
It's a weird question for a game series that's known precisely for its connected storyline.

>>717390738 (OP)
Yakuza 6 killed the series.

>>717397382
It's mostly because you'll be missing out on some small references and get spoiled by future events at the epilogue.

>>717390738 (OP)
Fuck this dogshit game

>>717390738 (OP)
It's the worst Imho. Start with 0 and skip 4 and 6, if time matters or play 7 and 8 if you don't have much time for games. 0 and 7 have perfect stories.

>>717398262
I started with the original and enjoyed it greatly. The camera was the only shitty part about it.

>>717412538
i don't mind the camera as much as the second or so delay when going between camera angles

>>717397549
>it was specifically made in mind with new people coming into the series
It wasn't. Not at all. It was specifically made to be an anniversary game for the existing fans which is why it has an absurd amount of references to previous games, more than any other before it. All of their Japanese marketing was pushing the fact that it was the 10th anniversary as well.

http://fftranslations.atspace.co.uk/rgg/rgg0.html
Nagoshi's take on its creation was
>Nagoshi: But when talk turned to the subject of the 10th anniversary of Ryu ga Gotoku's release coming up soon, some people thought it might be too backwards-looking to release a story about the past at such a time. I, though, thought that maybe its true form would be to take those 10 years, first of all sum them up, and then create a foundation for us to look towards the 10th year. Not only that, but we had a lot of ideas, and if we were confident that it would turn out well... then it would also raise expectations for the game that was to follow. "Let's just go for it and do RGG0, then," was how the project began.

https://jpgames.de/2021/02/interview-daisuke-sato-on-the-past-and-future-of-the-yakuza-series/
Sato had hindsight on his side when he was saying this so keep that in mind:
>The second was that the series had gone on for years at that point, making the barrier to entry on the higher end, but Yakuza 0 happened to be an optimal entry point since it was a prequel. In addition, Yakuza 0 was well-received, which was also a key to the success of the series.

They didn't plan on it getting new people into the series by being a prequel, it just happened because of serendipity. They were simply making a brand new Yakuza game like any other, just with a focus on the anniversary coming up. They initially didn't even want to make a prequel.

>>717390738 (OP)
>Can I start with Yakuza 6
No.
The Yakuza series is a LITERAL linear saga, and Y6 is essentially the "finale".
And the game sucks ass to boot.

>is it a significantly better experience to just start at the beginning?
It is undeniably the only valid way of going about it.
If you're unsure about the franchise, just do the casual route and play the Yakuza 0 first.
It's arguably the most polished game of the bunch, a prequel title story wise, and a great, self-contained tale if you so desire.

>>717390738 (OP)
worst game in the series and that says quite a lot

>>717413887
that's not yakuza 5

>>717390738 (OP)
You can, it is indeed a story heavy game series but the story is abysmal anime tier garbage

>>717390738 (OP)
can you start with Yakuza: Like A Dragon?

>>717414376
yes

>>717414376
It's a soft reboot which will spoil you on 6 in addition to having moments in the last third of the game that have no real gravitas to you. Going into 8 after it isn't worth it at all without having played the rest of the series since the majority of it is about Kiryu, his life, and his friends, not Ichiban. You're basically treating 7 as a standalone game or somewhere you stop to play the rest of the series. 8's experience would be awful if you only had Ichiban's knowledge of everything, all of Kiryu's content wouldn't hit at all.

>>717414376
Start with whatever game you want

>>717391582
This. You are experiencing the series in a completely and utterly warped way if you go 0 -> Kiwami 1 -> Kiwami 2 -> Rest of series

You see characters in a different context then what you would have if you played from release. Your perception will also be warped in terms of how the technology and thus gameplay evolved over the span of the series.

Furthermore, Kiwami 1 is full of retcons. It also leans into the "WACKY MAJIMA" shit much more heavily than the original game ever did.

>>717398262
Nishki was never mean to be a particularly "deep" character. This view arose from the warped perspective that people who played 0 first have. All you had to know about Nishki was that he's a former friend who changes for the worst while you're in prison for his sake. His character was never meant to be more than this, because you don't need more. But then they expanded his character in 0 and decided they had to insert a bunch of shitty retcon cutscenes into Kiwami 1 explaining how le wholesome Y0 Nishki turned into the ruthless Y1 Nishki.

>>717391396
I bought it because the steel case was being sold at my store.

>>717390738 (OP)
The more games in series you play, the worse 6, 7 and 8 will be when you play them.

>>717414710 (Me)
Look, if you are going into it just as "I want to play a good game", instead of "I want to play through the Yakuza Series", by all means play Yakuza 0. It is by far the best game in the series.
But if you want to play through the entire series after that, I would still strongly recommend playing based on release date from that point forward, it is simply the most natural way to experience the series' evolution in terms of characters/story, technology, gameplay and overall quality.

>>717391396
I didn't think 6 was that bad. Onomichi is a great map

>>717391396
>worst entry
That's 8

>>717404856
>Shinada was the better one and done protag IMO.
True, but his fighting style sucked.

>Start Yakuza 6
>See those exposed thighs
NANI?!

>>717390738 (OP)
>can I start Star Wars from episode 9 or is it better if I start it from episode 1?
retard

>>717416729
huh?

>>717414141
Y4-5 are two of the best games in the series.

i got into this series this year and played every game a couple months ago but i already want to start re-playing them

>>717390738 (OP)
>significantly better experience to just start at the beginning?
No, the correct experience is playing 0 and forgetting the rest exist.

>>717418028
that's 4 and 8

>>717391554
>Buy Kiwami 1 and 2.
Absolutely fucking not.

>>717419861
contrarian faggots like this still wouldn't like K1 and K2 if they literally sucked your dick when you purchased them

>>717420059
>You don't like the shit remake, you must be a contrarian!!!
No, I don't like it because it's shit

>>717420289
just kill yourself already faggot

>>717393207
>with removed content
Doesn't the Amweican version of Yakuza 1 have a ton of missing content?

>>717420309
After you, Kiwamibabby