LONGSWORD CHADS WW@?

Our threads have.... fallen...

I just beat the bird chick at the avian marsh or whatever, am I supposed to go to the tomb place up at the avian dwelling or?

>>717729002
You can if you want. Why not take a gander?

>>717728852 (OP)
Tiger guys second phase is BS but I will persevere

its been a week and these chinks still havent released 1.5

>>717729202
His second phase is a lie, you just fight it exactly the same way. The lightning sfx is basically irrelevant.

>>717729358
its actually easier because you can clash his weapon attacks

Eh perfect a new thread

Just want to say that I dont know why but I just totally had a fucking hunch when I got to this part and I was fucking right

>>717729521
The mimics don't have the instrument or a talisman on the forehead

"soulslike" isn't a genre, you know.

nobody asked

>>717729257
Good. Maybe they realized that creative vision matters more than appealing to retards who are realistically never going to play your game anyway, because the definition of soulslike has changed. It does not mean souls. It does not mean Dark Souls 1.
For most people, soulslike is epic boss battles with elaborate music and presentation, where you progress linearly from level to level with shortcuts as a gimmick youll use once or twice, and shitty RPG mechanics that is just "multiple different combat abilities that mostly do the same thing lol". Mind you DS1 had this problem too, but the difference is this was never all, or even most of what DS1 was.

DS1 was a game where if you tried to attack while your stamina bar was drained, it would not automatically regenerate for you while spamming inputs until you stopped and put yourself in the danger of only being able to defend by repositioning YOURSELF.

This was the game with weapon durability and the tightest roll requirments.

The game where you couldnt sprint while locked on.

The game where estus, even when boosted with humanity, would diminish slowly every time until you were back to 5.

The game where you could go to the catacombs first by accident and want to quit the game.

The game where you could get cursed and it wouldnt just magically get fixed at the bonfire.

The game where you couldnt just teleport back to the hub whenever you wanted to (until late game) but had to actually calculate whether it was worth it to travel back to where a shop or blacksmith was, based purely on memory (I had to do this whence cursed, especially because I accidentally killed the undead bitch seller)

These types of people never liked souls. They like the abstraction and therefore reduction of souls.

The aspect of souls that could be reduced to what I saw souls as before I ever played it:

A twitch streamer rolling around epicly a boss bigger than them, with bombastic music swelling and progressively flashier moves.

information is given voluntarily all the time, just accept that.

>>717729558
The what now

Gonna go ahead and assume this door is a boss.

>>717729686
you are a retard if you think the current get-up and healing systems are functional

>>717729521
I thought they were all obvious. The very first one is in an entirely grey area with nothing but a pool of blood coming from the shrine, for example. But then again I play these sorts of games all the time and can predict 99% of traps or ambushes, so maybe that's just me.

>>717729848
Clearly they are if we beat the game

>>717729867
That blood one was obvious yea

THis one I wasnt really sure but i just felt like it.

>>717729848
Do you think posting achivements somehow means something? 90% of gamers online today could get through Dark Souls 1 fine. Blind? Less confident, but I think they could stumble their way through. That doesnt mean they have the capacity to appreciate and understand its design decisions.

>>717729867
>>717729943
The mimic shrines also look different as I said>>717729558

>>717729848
Are you one of those posters who says stuff like "once you're down you're dead, there's nothing you can do regardless of if you get up immediately or wait" too?

Well he just two shotted me

>>717729686
>the definition of soulslike has changed. It does not mean souls. It does not mean Dark Souls 1.
>soulslike is epic boss battles with elaborate music and presentation, where you progress linearly from level to level with shortcuts as a gimmick youll use once or twice, and shitty RPG mechanics that is just "multiple different combat abilities that mostly do the same thing lol"
it's been this way for a while, since bloodborne, so that's 11 years now. arguably, demon's and dark souls were the outliers, and this new brand of boss rush style game, or whatever you want to call it, is the de-facto style that sells like hotcakes. but I get your point, the first game had a charm that none of the others managed to encapsulate, not even bloodborne, even if it was one of the better titles released on the last 11 years.

so how does this game compare to dark souls 1?

>>717729943
You develop a feeling for things like this, it is a sign of becoming good. Eventually you'll be able to predict ambushes all the time too and boss attacks before you ever see them, pattern recognition is a powerful tool.

>>717729974
I can't say I ever noticed that honestly, I didn't notice breathing or the reversed chain in Souls either.

So this is where Qiao Lin ends up

>>717730213
>I can't say I ever noticed that honestly,
Maybe if one were to utilize their eyes, thou could sighteth the difference

Dude, what are these fucking movements on the Tiger

I cant even chase him down if he's got the target on the Quest guy

This is like 10x worse than Bo Sorc

>>717730298
Why would I ever need to look at my surroundings when Wuchang is right there?

Just got to bandit cove. Sitting on longsword since it works well enough. What are people using? Spear seemed weak, sword seemed like a glorified magic stick but I barely have 1 weapon of each type so idk

>>717729982
im sick of repeating this but here
in most cases you can wait long enough for a standard dodge
in others you can rely on the get up dodge i frames
there is a brief blind spot between the get up phase and reverting to standard dodging where you can get and have no options
this is a retarded way for a video game to work and in a game with so much enemy tracking where active dodging is not possible, get-up iframes having blind spots is completely unacceptable, which is why they are changing it

>>717729968
i posted it since the immediate rebuttal would be calling me bad
this game genuinely isn't that difficult by action game standards but it is poorly designed

>>717730338
The hitboxes are incredibly shit but most of the time you can just hug his asscheeks and whittle him down from there.

JUST KIDDING, FUCKING GOT HIM HAHAHAHA

>>717730426
>What are people using?
Whatever they feel works best for them.
>Spear seemed weak
It's got some good stuff but you have to work a little harder than other weapons although the Steam Powered Spear is great.
>sword seemed like a glorified magic stick
1hand sword is fantastic and yes, it is the weapon type to use for magic.

>>717730480
They aren't changing it drastically, they're slightly adjusting the i-frames. Your explanation is a world away from it "not being functional" too, and you haven't explained why healing doesn't function at all either.

>>717730609
>axe
how the fuck were you struggling with tiger using axe

>>717730426
Axe is the GOAT exploration weapon. The stagger and life steal trivalizes enemies.
Longsword and DB are better vs. bosses that can be deflected/clashed, which is most of them

>>717728852 (OP)
Wuching
Wuchong
Wuchingchong

>>717730649
I was just pissed at the movements at first, but my first fight with him was here >>717730018

Which means it only took 15 minutes, so not too bad eh

>>717730648
>and you haven't explained why healing doesn't function at all either.
the time required to initiate healing is longer than virtually every other game of this type i've played and feels at odds with the pace of the actual combat
i think part of this is so you can't brute force fights with the extremely generous 15 cap on mana jars but they went too far with it in a game where enemies' attacks just fucking levitate them to your position
>>717730648
>They aren't changing it drastically, they're slightly adjusting the i-frames.
if 1.5 doesn't address the precise issue I mentioned I'll be shocked

>>717729521
You know it's a mimic when it says, "Interact" instead of "Offer blood". I thought there was only the one at Doomwillow Beach until this point because it's such a stretch between them.

>unreal slop
>souls slop
>parry slop
>china slop
you should be ashamed for shilling this garbage

Is there any quest that can bork after Tiger?
Any to do's before moving on?

>>717730770
i think the setting is very interesting and the combat usually works

>>717730819
great yonder gang line iirc where you need to give the medicine to shin jiang or w/e the fuck her name is

>>717730748
I don't know if you know what functional means, anon. And they've told us exactly what they're doing,
>Slight adjustment to the invincibility frames during Wuchang’s get-up animation after being knocked down.

>>717730896
i already did that and found the other two kids token down in the forest, shitsux

Hmm

>>717730169
>so how does this game compare to dark souls 1?
level design philosophy, boss rush philosophy, healing restrictment philosophy, defensive risk vs reward philosophy, shortcut philosophy, "miss out on quests" philosophy, boss rush philosophy, etc. Is the same, only thing its arguably missing is narrow choke point corridors to restrict movement and dodge rolling to create combat encounter situations where you have to problem solve as a result of not having easy access to all tools of defense and spacing.

After 3 weeks of trying to defeat Honglan I've uninstalled.

>>717731876
Go there
>>717732218
How is someone so bad at playing video games that they're stuck on a boss for 3 weeks? Do you not use your eyes? Do you not experiment? Do you not try different things? Do you not think? Are you even sentient?

>>717732279
What is there to experiment? I do one attack and she does 10 attacks non stop.

>>717732218
just counter her thrust bro

the second fight is almost entirely a dps check though

Nice title screen.

>>717732363
I counter that, then reach the second phase and die because there's nothing to counter anymore.

>>717732352
>I do one attack and she does 10 attacks non stop.
Zero thoughts, head empty. How do I acquire this mental state where I never, and I mean NEVER, use any sort of critical thinking skills whatsoever?

>>717732382
Why does this splash screen show the tomb area, I have the same splash screen but when I went there the white robed guy just spouted some shit and fuck all else to do. I left and wen tsome other way

>>717732397
>die because there's nothing to counter anymore.

>>717732417
Your only thoughts are about a shitty videogame. My thoughts would be incomprehensible to you, cocksucker.

>>717732480
>My thoughts would be incomprehensible to you
Well, yeah, because you don't have any.

>>717732397
you can counter her weapon attacks

dodge the kicks and ki blasts, dodge for the back shots and counter the thrusts

>>717728852 (OP)
Im playing with the spear because the l1 attack feels really strong and it hasn't disappointed me yet

>>717732424
i have no idea to be honest. when i was exploring zhenwu it changed from the snow starting screen back to the first starting screen

then after avian forest it gave me this but now that im in the ferry place its still giving me the tomb

also i believe you go back to the old man later

>>717732468
I feel like I got baited by EXACTLY this fight to getting the parry move for longsword. I used it a lot in that fight (just how the webm shows) and I have NEVER used parrying again. All my future boss fights have been just dodging and baiting for backstabs. Just beat wo sorcerer whatever she's called

i assume after bai masnion i come back and accept story teller's mission right? is that the start of chapter 4?

>>717732629
Yes
>>717732621
>wo sorcerer

just found out one NPC turned hostile because i didnt give him an item i had

AND that the option to give him the item required talking to him repeatedly which i thought i did twice but no option came up

fuck

>>717732621
same

i tried deflecting vs. the ming general and it sucked and that was the only time it tried deflecting. switching between axe and dual blade

>>717732424
Pretty sure it's just tied to the last shrine you used before you quit, but I haven't tested it properly. For example mine was the burning building for chapter 4, but when I went back to beat Bo Sorcerer and finish the elder's quest the title screen changed back to Avian Marsh.

>>717732818
I have never had Avian Marsh as a title screen, what does it even look like?

>>717732480
>Bad at a game
Uhh, uhh, the game is shitty, not me!

Incomprenhensibly stupid.

>>717732919
>Avian Marsh
The tomb

>>717732995
Oh

Are basically all the NPCs quests done at the boat place? I just realized there isnt anyone else anymore besides the Elder who's waiting.

>>717733095
fang yao and he youzai finish at worships rise in ruins

apparently I already did the wrong answer with the red woman....

>>717729686
based

>go to do Vermillion Honglan in NG+
>die significantly less with a weapon I keep pressing the wrong buttons on
What the fuck... I was having such a difficult time with her on NG but I only died like 4 times this time. TOO EASY, TOO EASY

>>717733305
oh yeah forgot your pirate bro....

>>717732210
>"miss out on quests" philosophy
>Is the same,
It really isn't.
In DS1 if you somehow missed Solaire in Undead burg near broken statue you could return for him much much later and 'push' him along his 'route' despite the fact you already cleared all the bosses you could sommon him for and moved much farther in the story.
In Wuchang you as much as look in the wrong direction and you can breake some NPC's questline.
For autismos ITT, yes that was a hyperbole but not a big one.
I really dislike the fact the game has multiple paths and gets praised for it while you're expected to take one invisible 'correct' path if you don't want to break shit.
One more DS1 comparison.
Remember 'ring 2 bells' at the beginning?
You could go kill spider tits without breaking the game.
In Wuchang if you decide to go for Mt.Zhenwu first instead of Cloudspire you get punished with broken NPC quests.
I like the game, already plated it and doing another run right now but some of the design choices are questionable, to put it mildly.

>>717733695
There's only really entering Zhenwu here that actually "breaks" quests though, the rest are just fail states which I assume you don't have an issue with considering you're defending the notoriously retarded Souls quests. I don't think you could argue either is better honestly, at best you could say Wuchang quests explain themselves better.

>>717732468
Maybe I have some bootleg version, because she does not do this for me. Even after a counter she immediately launches into attacks again.

>>717734485
I only parry her lunge attacks and I'm always able to get two swings in after

Axe is a noob trap. It's way too slow for way too long. LS or fire magic are by far the best. LS is just an efficient honest playstyle and fire magic is extremely simple to boost the fuck out of if you're paying attention and in chapter 3 you can pick up a spell that nearly oneshots large bosses.
>b-but stagger
I've seen numerous axefags completely struggle to play the game when they are inevitably forced to actually dodge

>>717734528
Phase one, yeah. Phase two... ugh.

>>717734591
hmm i dont remmeber anymore

phase 2 i also only parried lunges i believe. otehrwise i just stayeda way and dodged all her water shit.

>>717734558
axe destroys regular enemies zero brain required which is what i wanna do when im exploring.

>>717734737
>axe destroys regular enemies zero brain required which is what i wanna do when im exploring.
Everything destroys normal enemies with zero brain required

>>717734762
you actually have to dodge with the other weapons. you dont have to do that with axe.

>>717734832
You're not very smart, are you?

>>717734558
So you're admitting it's good, but pretending that people who play Axe can't dodge so therefore the weapon is bad?

I'm going in gang. Follow me

>>717734854
Stop getting defensive over everything.

>>717735003
I'm not getting defensive, I'm asking a genuine question because it seems like you haven't even touched other weapons but attempt to speak with authority on something you don't know

>>717734274
You can already fuck things up at the beginning, in Shu Sanctum if you decide to kill the Priest and Centipede before Lu Hongliu.
>I don't think you could argue either is better honestly,
If I can return form endgame area to beginning area and still salvage NPC quest I think it's pretty obvious which one is better.
It wouldn't even be that hard to implement it in Wuchang similarly for many quests.
For example Nian Suichang, the friendly helper / rival. He could be handled in similar way Solaire was in DS1.
Stuck to a place if you don't talk to him and then move along if you remember him later, with some parts of his journey skipped (if you kill Ai Nenggi before you 'push' Nian to Hillswatch area he wouldn't get his ass kicked and would move immediately to Ai Nenggi boss gate to congratulate you for slaying him).
Obviously you can't make all quests foolproof but devs should at least spend some effort to make some of them salvageable.
Shrugging and pointing out other games have similarly bad or worse quests won't ever improve anything.

>>717735038
You're EXACTLY who I'm thinking of. You are that person that gets defensive over stupid shit.
Axe is absolutely the most faceroll weapon for exploration, especially on first playthrough which is honestly the only one that really matters. Trying to argue otherwise is retarded.

>>717735183
You're just admitting you haven't used any other weapon. I accept your concession

>>717735093
>If I can return form endgame area to beginning area and still salvage NPC quest I think it's pretty obvious which one is better.
It is not a 1:1 comparison because Wuchang actually progresses through a series of events chronologically that change the game areas, but regardless you can only rarely do that in Dark Souls. Progressing in the game fails a lot of quests if you don't fully complete them before (mostly) arbitrary points, just like in Wuchang.

>Shrugging and pointing out other games have similarly bad or worse quests won't ever improve anything.
I am not doing that. You're the one singling out Wuchang as having uniquely badly designed quests that don't follow the Dark Souls philosophy, I'm just pointing out that they do for the most part.

>>717733695
>>717734274
I feel like the game actually misleads you into falling quests. I've never played a game so hostile to blind progression.
Another example is how you can get those two rings, and description states that you can use them to combine into one.
If you do "Use" the rings, they'll just disappear into a puff of 10,000 souls. Fuck you, have a nice day.

>>717735524
>If you do "Use" the rings, they'll just disappear into a puff of 10,000 souls. Fuck you, have a nice day.
doesnt the description tell you using the item will convert it into souls? i may be wrong

>>717735630
>doesnt the description tell you using the item will convert it into souls?
Yes. Since there's no "Combine" option, people think using them will join them despite that not being the case for literally any other item.

>>717735630
Kind of, they say they contain myriad souls or something, but it doesn't clarify whether it's just flavor text or information.

>>717735678
It's hard to know what rules the game operates by when the translation is already so spotty.

You know, spear has a little bit of a learning curve but once you get it, you get it
>>717735770
>It's hard to know what rules the game operates by when the translation is already so spotty.
I'd assume that since there's no option to combine and if you use anything else, Wuchang quite literally just uses it, the only thing you can reasonably assume is that she'll use them just like any other item. Everything by that point has been reasonably straightforward.

please stop modding the game and put a bridal dress on wuchang or something...I can only get so erect

>>717735885
I used it because I just wanted to test if the game would be so cruel since I already fucked every other quest up. Not sure what I expected.
I think it's safe to assume that no matter what you do in the game the outcome will be the worst possible. Playing without a guide is near impossible with how many hoops it makes you jump through.

>>717735524
I don't think it's that bad. The characters actually explain their goals and specifically where they're going most of the time, and if they don't the game tells you in the UI or the item description hitns at who to give it to. That's already better than the majority of soulslike titles on it's own, including Soulsborne Ring. The fail states all make sense and can be reasoned out, unlike say Solaire where he dies to the maggot unless you grind an arbitrary item for an unrelated npc to open a random door.

There's two objectively dumb bits like the cave to Zhenwu just being wide open or the elevator to the mistress boss not being locked until you meet her at least, but otherwise they're fine in my eyes.

>>717736172
Fang Hao and He Youzai
The quest breaks if you speak to the NPCs in the wrong order.
Quests break if you rest between talking to some NPCs. Quests break if you lack certain items when you speak to NPCs, where the only way to proceed is to *ignore* the NPC until you find the quest item and then returning.

No, it's bad. It's very bad.

>>717733695
>One more DS1 comparison.
>Remember 'ring 2 bells' at the beginning?
>You could go kill spider tits without breaking the game.
>In Wuchang if you decide to go for Mt.Zhenwu first instead of Cloudspire you get punished with broken NPC quests.
Your reply just made me formulate a thought ive always had about DS1. But most people would never except it because the word I'd appeal to, like 90% of words in the modern day, doesnt actually refer to its unique meaning. Its one of those buzzwords arbitrarily made more "special" by use and association to the point its not actually more "useful" but because its more relevant, its more used.

Useful versus Use. Ironic Words that probably originally meant the same thing maybe, but despite their similarities, are fundamentally different.

Anyway I doubt anybody can guess what I noticed. But it has to do with "interconnection" as a hint. Think about how something truly interlinked, would affect the think it is linked to. I've basically given it away but we'll see if anybody can make the connection.

>>717736023
Since I just got the rings in NG+, it's worded weird but it does tell you to link them at an altar.

>>717735678
yeah with years of playing souls shit i was naturally hesitant to use any consumables

>>717736541
No it doesn't, it tells you to link them to make an offering that you can then present at a specified altar.
Besides that the text Duryal gives you when he teleports you to ch4 is vague in the extreme and though there's a double confirmation required it still doesn't really clue players into understanding what they need to cancel and explore more for.
I love the game but the story progression is impossible to defend.

>>717736647
>No it doesn't, it tells you to link them to make an offering that you can then present at a specified altar.
Yes, it does. When I read the description when I first got them in NG, I was thinking "what altar?". My immediate thought was bringing them to an altar to use them at. However, because I didn't know where this altar was, I ended up just using them. As I said, it's worded weird but it quite literally tells you to use them at an altar. Just so you know, I am American and the only language I speak is English and I was able to discern this without looking it up. I only found the altar later after I used them in my initial playthrough and made the connection upon finding it.

>>717735524
>I've never played a game so hostile to blind progression.
>Another example is how you can get those two rings, and description states that you can use them to combine into one.
>If you do "Use" the rings, they'll just disappear into a puff of 10,000 souls. Fuck you, have a nice day.
Funny you say this, because the very first time I played dark souls 1, I read the description of the fire keepers soul, and consumed it. It seems I win again with my dark souls 1 comparisons. I REALLY truly think alot of you guys are too lived in an era completely disconnected from what it is like to play Dark Souls 1 for the very first time blind.

Thats why I say most people really dont understand Dark Souls. Theres this sort of abstraction and Idea of Dark Souls that has taken over the actual experience of the game. Its a collection of buzzwords that have all arbitrarily been decided to be "good", but for every example you can make that the thing is "good" I could easily make and show a game youd consider it bad for.

"Interconnected"
"Slow and Methodical"
"Soul"
"Dark Fantasy"
"Story you have to Piece together"
"Influential"
"Challenging"
"Unforgiving"
"Have to Pay attention".

Half of these already apply to Classic Tomb Raider and before the remasters came out. I remember people UNIRONICALLY VEHEMENTLY telling me that the game was outdated and trash and mogged by Super Mario 64, the most braindead kiddie borderline mobile game gameplay loop of "complete level, collect arbitrary reward that allows you to keep playing to collect more arbitrary reward". About how the game was clunky and not fluid like Mario.

Anyway Im just ranting at this point.

>>717736893
A lot of people lack basic comprehension. Even the guy you're responding to thinks the item description states you can use them to combine them into one when it, in fact, does not. I completely understand where you're coming from with your posts but a lot of people will argue that them being retarded is the better way to view things.

>>717737025
>Even the guy you're responding to thinks the item description states you can use them to combine them into one
Wrong. That's not what I said.
>Link it with another ring to have it act as a key, an offering for a certain altar
Link them to have them act as a key for an altar
It doesn't say how to link them at all
It doesn't say you have to link them at the altar
It's a vague enough description to bait players into thinking you have to use them
Just because you somehow inferred in your dreams that it meant altar was used to link them doesn't mean that's what the description states

>>717737025
>>717737116
It's far too easy to interpret the description as having to walk up to an altar and "using" the rings to combine them. Which altar? You've passed by probably hundreds of altars so far, which one is it? Well only one way to find out, let's walk up to this one, use the ring and... oh whoops.

>>717737116
>It's a vague enough description to bait players into thinking you have to use them
It does not.
>Just because you somehow inferred in your dreams that it meant altar was used to link them doesn't mean that's what the description states
Do you not know how to read sentences? The comma is there for a reason. The only way you can possibly interpret that "using" them will link them is if you lack reading comprehension. Just because you, and quite frankly a lot of other anons, are incapable of reading doesn't mean I just conjured something out of thin air. The altar and where it's at is unclear because you obviously can't connect it at the shrines as there's no option for it and, once again, there is ZERO options for combining in the menu as well as the fact that not even a single other item combines with anything else, you can only assume that you have to link it at an altar. It's not that hard, dude. The only other item you've had to use somewhere, by this point, was the statue in order to fight the first Honglan fight. If you take that into consideration as well, you can assume that there's going to be a point where you have to use an item someplace else especially with a description like the one on the rings.

AH SO
CHING CHONG
TING TONG

>>717737301
You looked it up in a guide and are post-hoc trying to rationalize it to us for some reason. Your arguing is dishonest because you always present what I'm saying as another conclusion entirely. The Chinese aren't gonna pay you for this, dude.

>>717737348
I'm not being dishonest and I haven't look at any guides. You quite literally did come to a different conclusion that I thought of. So, yes, that's why saying that. I don't care what the chinese are doing, that has nothing to do with your inability to comprehend what you read. You're making an assumption that I'm just lying when I'm not. If you truly want to believe that, that's your choice but that doesn't change the fact that the description literally tells you to link it at an altar.

>>717737301
Look at genius over here who got the true ending on the first try by simply reading the item descriptions and somehow discerning exactly what he was supposed to do.
He figured out he was supposed to talk to Ching Chong before Chong Ching and not go down the narrow dirt path before killing the Demon of Heaven's Fury in the Bing Bong temple 2 hours later.

Dark Souls is nowhere near as bad. You can't permanently block yourself out of endings by performing an innocuous arbitrary task in the wrong order, something which can happen dozens of times in Wuchang. There's literally no way to tell what consequences doing something will have. The Firekeeper soul was definitely bait, but all eating the soul really did was prevent the Firelink shrine from working.

>>717737604
>by simply reading the item descriptions and somehow discerning exactly what he was supposed to do.
As I stated before, I used them because I didn't know what altar it was referring to.
>He figured out he was supposed to talk to Ching Chong before Chong Ching
I have absolutely no idea what this is referring to.

>>717737681
So clearly you don't actually know how bad it is and
>>717737348
was right.

Even in NG+ you'll only get the true ending even with past experience by sheer blind luck because there are literally moments where it breaks from speaking to NPCs in the wrong order. You also can't tell which actions lead to progressing quests and what breaks them, or even when a quest is broken. What will you differently in NG+? Was doing X a contributor to progressing the quest? Will killing this boss first this time break the quest or did I actually fuck it up the first time in NG and missed an NPC I didn't know about? WHO KNOWS!
You either used a guide in NG+ or you never actually got the true ending and your insinuations are born from either sheer retardation or an attempt to be a le funny man.

>>717737974
>by sheer blind luck because there are literally moments where it breaks from speaking to NPCs in the wrong order
Again, what is this referring to? I don't know anything about this

The game might objectively be only 7/10 but I really fucking want to replay it already and try a different build and stuff
I wish I didn't have so many other games to play
I miss Ziyun-chan

>>717737301
Based anon speaking truth, obviously you don't use super important sounding items from your inventory like that. Least of all if they mention some vague usage, just like boss souls in Dark Souls. People were always complaining about how stupid it was to have to eat all the umbilical cords in Bloodborne to get the secret ending because it was such a stupid concept that most people wouldn't naturally figure out.

>>717738095
You know where you get research journal 3? If you go up and talk to the dude before the little girl then rest, he'll disappear and your quest is permanently fucked.

>>717738593
see
>>717737278

How are you supposed to know you're not locking yourself out of the quest by *not* using them?

steelrising was meh. like a solid 7/10. not enough variety in enemies and level design, and progression systems stopped offering cool things to do very early on. if Wuchang was S and Ste**ar was C then this is like a C+. blogpost over.

>>717738679
I didn't know that but I did notice Fang Yao first because I saw that path open when it was normally closed. The only reason I even went upstairs was because I obviously saw Yu Xia since she stands out. I did not know that talking to Fang Yao second broke anything because I talked to her first. I can't recount exactly what I did because that was over a week ago but obviously I talked to her first. I originally thought He Youzai gave both rings but now that I'm here on NG+, I notice they both gave a ring each.
>>717738752
You don't.
>what altar
>I have no idea what altar this is referring to
>let's try the shrine
>doesn't work
>can't think of anything else, don't feel like revisiting everywhere
>let's try seeing if using them acts like every other item or not
>okay, it does
>[sometime later]
>find altar
>something clearly goes there
>must be the rings I used

>>717738981
Yeah exactly, blind luck. You can't figure that kind of interaction out through in game cues because there are none. It just dicks you.
I'm ok with being practically locked out of a good ending in blind NG, but I think Wuchang goes beyond what's reasonable in terms of quest breaking triggers. It's not enough that you know what to do, you have to explicitly know what not to do.

>>717738752
Lots of ways.
>a shrine is not an altar, obviously you're looking for something very distinct to use it at and not just the bonfire equivalent
>the unfused rings don't say to offer them or use them whatsoever, they both distinctly say you need to combine them into a causality ring before they can be used as an offering
>that method has never been a concept in the game so it's weird to jump immediately to that conclusion
>the importance of the item obviously implies that how you use it is important too, so be wary about using it
>by playing the game and failing once or twice because having the ability to fail in a videogame is fine
And last but also least, if you've ever played a game like this before then the concept of wasted key items if you use them wrong exists. Like the boss souls already pointed out.

The Reborn is such fucking dogshit on spear

Im waiting for 1.5 to start ng+, I hope they will add a few new costumes

Is there a better synergy for areal bulwark than empyrean crash? I don't know how to use axes without earthshatter so it feels a bit awkward to swap into a weapon that gets completely cucked out of its skyborn might so easily. Feels great if you land it and hit the rampage into a charged r2 but that requires a lot to go right all at once, I often end up just swapping back into steam chain. Or is there a better spear for wep swapping? Feels like the chain is the only good weapon art

Who the fuck is this guy?

>>717740278
Keanu Reeves

>>717739469
Spear moveset is dogshit all by itself, by far the worst weapon type in terms of base moveset, only saved by some gimmicks of the weapon skills like the one turning foes around.

Tell me about WuChang. Why does she steal panties and hate Pandas.

>>717740036
Red Tassel (or the DLC spear version of that one) and Cloudpiercer are both just as good Disciplines as Steampowered Spear, but axe doesn't have too many unique Disciplines that have the range for how far Aerial Bulwark sends you back. You could use Spearveil instead and then any of the axes would work, I guess. You don't need Earthshatter either since Spear already grants Resilience if you dodge with Aerial Bulwark or Spearveil.

>>717740278
The emperor maybe? He's wearing yellow robes like the Reborn was.

>>717740347
She's a bird and birds are jerks

>>717740394
>Spear already grants Resilience if you dodge with Aerial Bulwark or Spearveil.
It's really fuckin' short, if I don't swap with a full 5 tiers of feathering, It won't last long enough to both land rampage and also get into a decent attack chain. Plus spearveil feels kinda shit to use, the window isn't much wider than areal and you can just hold areal for as long as you want and it gives 4 stacks, which is a back to back weapon swap. Cloud piercer's tracking is too shit, I've missed point blank explosions, and I'm concerned red tassel won't be much different with its tracking.

>>717740521
Wonder if the Bai lineage is a remnant of the Bo.

>>717740521

>>717740278
The emperor. Yu Xia was the emprah's consort, Honglan had the hots for Yu Xia, so Xuanyuanzi manipulated her into going into a quest to get shit to revive him.

>>717740571
>It's really fuckin' short, if I don't swap with a full 5 tiers of feathering,
I assume you'd be switching often if you're bothering to plan for it, which means you'll be going back and forth to re-up the buff. Spearveil grants 2 feathers each time, so it funds the combo too.

>Plus spearveil feels kinda shit to use, the window isn't much wider than areal and you can just hold areal for as long as you want and it gives 4 stacks,
Spearveil is also a lot easier to use requiring no set up and is way faster to come out, it can be spammed endlessly with a little timing practice too. But most importantly you were asking about weapon switching and specifically wanting earthshatter bonuses to use axe, Spearveil would leave you close to the enemy to capitalise on Resilience duration a lot more than Aerial Bulwark would since you'll immediately be in the middle of attacking when you use it.

>Cloud piercer's tracking is too shit, I've missed point blank explosions, and I'm concerned red tassel won't be much different with its tracking.
I don't know what you mean, they both just go in a straight line and one of them continues on that straight line for a while. It's pretty easy to hit with, but to each his own.

>spear

>>717741496
>0 mercury

>>717741264
>I assume you'd be switching often if you're bothering to plan for it, which means you'll be going back and forth to re-up the buff. Spearveil grants 2 feathers each time, so it funds the combo too.
It doesn't fund the back and forth, and it's short enough that I end up just using empyrean for a gap close and using the last of the resilience to steam chain back into spear to line up another aerial. I kinda wanted to keep to axe once I'd closed that gap, but it doesnt quite work. If any of the dual blades had decent gap closing skills I'd happily lean into the clash they have after an aerial.

>spearveil
Maybe I'll just fuck around with it a bit more, but having to use it twice to generate the same ammount of feathering as aerial just felt bad to me, but you're right in that you don't waste any time closing gaps.
>I don't know what you mean, they both just go in a straight line and one of them continues on that straight line for a while. It's pretty easy to hit with, but to each his own.
>straight line
Unfortunately the game has another plane of movement that enemies can take.

>>717741496
The tracking here does look very good tho on that ebb and flow

Reposting list of recommended mods:

>performance
https://www.nexusmods.com/wuchangfallenfeathers/mods/5
>faster elevators
https://www.nexusmods.com/wuchangfallenfeathers/mods/136
>faster sprinting
https://www.nexusmods.com/wuchangfallenfeathers/mods/42
>skip intro text
https://www.nexusmods.com/wuchangfallenfeathers/mods/141
>skip intro logos
https://www.nexusmods.com/wuchangfallenfeathers/mods/9
>set own respawnpoints for people who hate runbacks
https://www.nexusmods.com/wuchangfallenfeathers/mods/185
>item spawn console
https://www.nexusmods.com/wuchangfallenfeathers/mods/86
>adds preorder items to deluxe (banned on nexusmods lol)
https://files.catbox.moe/3pxi1f.7z

>>717741942
I'M STILL IN A DREAM SNAAAAKE EATER

>>717741919
you did not beat the game

>>717740278
Some scrub who got filtered.

>faster sprinting
these indian didnt-beat-the-game n****** dont realize how such a mod would break every boss
>save points
lmao. fucking open a trainer at that point

>>717741783
>doesn't fund the back and forth
Not always, but it funds the switch and then you can use the Axe moveset tanking hits with the basic attacks + Resilience to refund the return to spear easily. I can't remember the costs of specific Disciplines to speak for Empryean, but it works for the cheaper ones. You could also try the Draconic Bombard axe firing a projectile after Aerial Bulwark.

Look I'm not saying anything concrete or that what I'm suggesting is better than your approach, I'm just offering ideas.

>Unfortunately the game has another plane of movement that enemies can take.
Don't play coy with me, bucko. I know you know I meant that all you have to do is face the enemy.

>>717728852 (OP)
>LONGSWORD CHADS WW@?
preparing for tiger

>>717742224
>You could also try the Draconic Bombard axe firing a projectile after Aerial Bulwark.
That's a pretty good idea. Empyrean is 2.
>Look I'm not saying anything concrete or that what I'm suggesting is better than your approach, I'm just offering ideas.
I know, I'm trying not to come off as defensive or argumentative lol. Another problem is Empyrean is just outright the best axe in terms of damage, and scorn seems to be a "buff with fire or else" sort of deal.
>Don't play coy with me, bucko. I know you know I meant that all you have to do is face the enemy.
kek, I'm trying it now, that anon posted a webm that showed that it didn't easily overshoot on the charge and miss things point blank

Spear with Upward Force is very silly, it's easily the best launcher attack. You can completely stunlock some bosses to death.

>>717742224
>You could also try the Draconic Bombard axe firing a projectile after Aerial Bulwark.
It's good and if you use it with red tassle it leaves a charge left for you to immediately swap back into the spear charge and close that gap+clash, but it makes the axe portion of the playstyle even more one dimensional. I think I'll try scorn+spearveil for a bit.

>>717742381
>scorn seems to be a "buff with fire or else" sort of deal.
I don't know if Empyrean beats a buffed Scorn personally, but certainly it has the advantage of using any temper and not needing resources. You have no idea how much it hurt to realise that you don't seem to be able to temper both weapons and then switch into Scorn either, my dream was dead before it even began.

I missed this on my NG run. I meant to come over this way but forgot

how does spear fair with demon of obsession? i'm on ng++ and I really don't want to fight her again

>>717743012
Weird place, it's just a warp back to the Annalum but... you can warp from the main bonfire? I guess it's for the lore? There's nothing else in this fuckoff area

>>717729257
They're desperate for damage control. These are the same devs that lowered everyone's graphics in a patch and said the game is now optimized

Since a shitload of things is copied from DS1 are there illusory walls?

>>717743129
normally looking walls that you can pass?
no

>>717743028
pretty good i think, she gets staggered a lot by spear skills

why is panda so useless? he literally gives nothing of value

>>717743474
>+10 weapon upgrade feather
>nothing of value

>>717743474
>best spear
>def spell
>+10 feather
>cute hat

longsword is the only weapon that feels good

>>717743528
dont you get the chiesel for plus 10 near the end so you don't even need it? besides you I was lvl 90 when I finished the game and was able to get only one weapon to +10

>>717743578
>cute hat
wow

So, tried fire buffed scorn, and the full weapon art wasn't connecting with the oomph you'd expect, definitely feels like it doesn't match the convenience of empyrean being cheaper and letting you chase bosses and dodge attacks

>>717743640
>dont you get the chiesel for plus 10 near the end
You get it from the Emperor so you can use it for the entire last chapter.

>>717743657
fire is the only way to win against the late game bullshit

>>717743528
aside from the nine tri force benediction you find a feather anyway

there's fuck all weapon diversity this is big shit

>>717743748
lmao, I'm in ng+ anon

>>717743830
whats your point?

>>717743748
wtf is this crazy damage? just a fire buffed heavy attack?

>>717742307
Same, stopped outside his door, maining Lashing Whip since I found it except on Ai Nenqi who required some big axe bonks.

>>717743907
yes. fire sword+fire buff and taping l1

>>717743901
I beat the game with leech :^)

>>717743640
>you can only use fully upgraded weapon against handful of endgame bosses therefore it's useless
not sure if retarded or just pretending, there's also NG+
>>717743780
one
this way you can upgrade 2 weapon types per playthrough

>>717743907
Infernal Firebrand (weapon skill), it shoots a bunch of small fireballs they just all land because the hitbox is so big
this isn't even that great, lotus cluster bomb spell can nearly onetap him with the same mechanic

>>717743989
>ng+
everyone is dying in one hit for the first 30 hours. its boring

>>717743989
You can find a feather, buy another one from panda, you can get one from the guy that gives you the feathering longsword at the dock if you purposefully mess up his quest and I think there's one more I don't exactly remember right now, that's four in one run

>>717744041
theres literally no difference between lvl 6 and lvl 10 when it comes to dps

>>717743989
There's three feathers actually, one is behind the last riddle door.

>>717744041
>buy another one from panda
What's even the deal with that panda? I bought a couple of items at the start, found him later in the vault in the palace and he had nothing more. Does the fucker add new stuff to his inventory later? I keep piling on the bamboo thingies.

>>717744137
Yeah, chap 4 he gets the final discipline benediction and chap 5 he gets a +10 feather. He's poorly implemented, he should have had other items for purchase with normal currency. I feel bad for any anons who wastes bamboo shoots because you need like, 14 minimum for his best shit.

>>717744137
not sure if entirely correct but if you find each bamboo shoot you can buy everything in one playthrough

>>717744029
>NG+
>first 30 hours
If you're not finished under 10 you're doing something wrong.
30 hours is full 'first time and zero idea where everything is and what the fuck there's to do' territory

>>717744029
is ng plus fun? i feel like there's a lot of empty running,ignoring everything except bosses

>>717744221
>not sure if entirely correct but if you find each bamboo shoot you can buy everything in one playthrough
yes but you dont need everything, in fact you dont need anything that panda offers

>>717744796
I did this and my daughteru died :( I forgot to knock on her door.

how did killing emperor transport you into the end dungeon?

>>717744982
The floor broke

>Finish game with longsword + the occasional axe
>Go for a 100% run with dual swords
This shit is actually busted, what the hell

I feel like the game is really close to being great but it has pacing issues. Some levels are too long and too boring. Plot only becomes cool near the end. and OMG so many ladders. I GET IT I'M SUPPOSED TO LOOK AT HER ASS I GET IT... CAN I PLAY THE FUCKING GAME?

>>717745067
so how come you can't go back to the same room and fall down?

>>717745298
Small development studio please understand

>>717745298
entrance was caved in

>Bandits talk about the kids their boss had killed when he turned their mother into his personal onahole
>One got decapitated the other managed to run away
>You'd think that the one you found was the one who ran away, who you give the doll figure to
>It's actually the decapitated one
>where's the other kid?

>tfw struggling harder on the emperor than honglan v2 or perfect bride
I'm just so bad at big and spastic bosses. So, so bad.

Wuhchang the shoe stealer

>>717745110
i switched to dual after getting my ass handed to me with one handed during bo sorc, haven't looked back since

How do I open this fucking door at palace hill? Is it just one of those things you run back into later in the game?

>>717745863
Kinda.
If you fail the door riddle you get teleported into that area and you can open it after fighting whatever is in there.
Otherwise you'll open it on chapter 4.

>>717745863
If you fuck up red riddle door on the opposite side of the area you'll get teleported there.
Not sure if you can open the door now but once you get to ruined version of palace that area becomes accessible.

>>717745719
Same. I can dodge constant back to back attacks no problem, but movesets like the emperor pop up and then I struggle forever. I don't know if anyone else can relate, but it's like in rhythm games how Hard is actually way easier than Easy because it actually follows a rhythm.

>>717745863
You need to answer "wrong" (feathered transcendence) on the quiz door

>>717745961
>>717746004
>>717746032
Goddamnit. Okay, thank you. That was gonna drive me wild otherwise.

>>717746021
>but it's like in rhythm games how Hard is actually way easier than Easy because it actually follows a rhythm.
This happens to me way more than it should...

>>717745863
if you answer the benediction door riddle in palace hill with 'feathered transcendence' it will take you there

>>717745719
>>717746021
Have you considered getting gud :^)
>first try btw

QUICK tell me
>weapon you're using
>fav boss
>hardest boss

>>717746119
At least you get a free autism diagnosis, anon.

>>717746159
You're not fooling anyone, pal. Third try on that weapon maybe.

>>717746370
>>weapon you're using
NG with one-handed swords, now longswords (new run not NG+)
>fav boss
Either Fang Ling or Zhao Yun
>hardest boss
by amount of tries either Honglan or Honglan 2
Honglan 2 is harder but in Honglan your build is still half done so it can be trickier

>>717746370
longsword - fire and whip versions
Bo sorcerer - the worst part is you can't wear her skin
Honglan 1st edition - even on NG+ she kicked my ass a lot, for some reason, HongLenia was easier to handle despite the fireworks

>>717746370
lashing whip
bird malenia
bird malenia
bonus points for blame image

>>717732218
first phase
>keep distance and counter her thrust attacks
second phase
>keep distance, dodge projectiles
>she will either thrust attack or spin attack
>counter thrust for easy blows
>also counter spin but then immediately dodge, wait until her combo ends in a jump attack for easy backstab (try to dodge behind her right when she lands)
repeat until her hp bar reaches zero

>>717746370
Red Tasseled Spear
The first boss, funny cannibal fire guy
The blue bird fuck in the jungle
Maybe I'm retarded but that was by far the most tries on a boss

>>717746370
>weapon
gonna try firebrand on a fresh save rather than ng+
>fav
perfect bride, closely followed by yangzi
>hardest
honglan1, died way more to her than 2 for some reason, DoO is a close second

>>717746370
>Currently experimenting with spear and fleetness weapon swaps
>Bo Sorceress hands down
>Probably the emperor reborn thingy

>>717732218
I don't know if you're still here, but go spear, grab the launcher attack and just loop her to death. Launcher into backstab and repeat until dead.
Alternatively the 1h sword has a good launcher, too.

>best weapon is in the first area and you can unlock life leech needle super fast
blood axe trivializes the whole game, you never need to learn anything.

>>717732218
only annoying part of the fight is her kicks that do stupid amounts of damage even with high def, once you get the hang of dodging them it's just a matter of time anon

>>717747356
I've heard this exact statement from virtually every weapon class except maybe spears.

>>717746370
>weapon
steampowered spear and red-tasseled spear
>fav boss
zhao yun
>hardest boss
zhao yun probably
honglan was the boss i struggled with the most because i didn't know about the steam chain strat at the time

>>717747449
Axe is on a whole different level though, you can literally facetank anything that isn't a grab because on top of doing stupid stagger damage, it's also the heavy armor build.

>>717747584
I literally faded through every single Zhao Yun combo on my second try just by using Evasive Maneuver. To this day I still don't know how many moves he has.

Hows dual swords? Been using them and I enjoy you can spam their attacks more than the axe for some reason.

>>717747786
with blademaster skill and constant clashing it's hard to lose desu especially against inner demons and those huge mace guys in cloudspire, they're my fav weapon so far

>>717746370
>weapon you're using
longsword
>fav boss
Vermillion Honglan
>hardest boss
DoO

>>717728852 (OP)
>give xuen his chisel
>he helps me with the boss fight
what a swell guy

I wish someone made a mod that replaces all chinese names into japenese. I cant follow this game's narrative at all because every name is instantly forgotten after I see it on screen

Alright, what's the deal with Huang Yan?

If her son is dead, why is she obsessed with finding him a bride? To experiment with resurrection?
Does she have any idea that they're planning on bringing the emperor back?
If she's planning on resurrecting her son, why is she collaborating with Ai Nengqi?
Both her and the Ming General are lanky and weird, is that just alchemy bullshit?

>>717748909
just pay attention to 2nd names
these asian niggas put their surnames first which are irrelevant

>>717748921
>If her son is dead, why is she obsessed with finding him a bride? To experiment with resurrection?
Why are you assuming her son is dead? Nowhere is this said isn't it?
>Does she have any idea that they're planning on bringing the emperor back?
Unlikely, the Ming only defend Cloudspire for its rich red mercury deposits.
>If she's planning on resurrecting her son, why is she collaborating with Ai Nengqi?
She just wants to weaken the Ming because she hates having to bow to them.
>Both her and the Ming General are lanky and weird, is that just alchemy bullshit?
Opium is one hell of a drug.

>>717748602
you made a jarring mistake anon

>>717748602
Wait, you can summon him to fight himself? How does he fight?

>only shrine I missed was in lotus pond where you fight honglan
cmon man

>>717745653
the other kid is the one in the house looking for his parents, who gives you the key to the theater, after you finish his mini quest he says he's gonna go to reverent temple
in chapter 4 you get his doll from the jar

I do not like this lame chinese setting

>>717751076
Just keep playing and it becomes Gigeresque

does this affect anything and what do i choose

I have experimented a fair bit and it seems like axe is really the only class that compliments spears, every thing else has too much overlap.

>>717749004
>remember He Youzai because I talked to him like dozen times
>bitch starts to call him He Daxia
fuck you chins, make up your mind

>>717751809
Daxia (daxia) just means knight, it ain't a proper name so I don't know why they didn't translate it, it's some "oniichan" type of shit.

>>717735524
Kek I kind feel that way too
Some of the quest choices are super obtuse while others are pretty obvious

>>717751865
>Daxia (daxia)
Meant to say "Daxia (大侠)"

>>717751865
>it's some "oniichan" type of shit.
thought it's some strange archaic reading of chink squiggles but that makes sense I guess

>>717751392
nah not really, first option to continue her quest tho

>>717746370
>weapon you're using
Feathering longsword
>fav boss
Honglan both times
>hardest boss
Tiger

>>717728852 (OP)
Which longsword disciplines are worth trying? I never used any except sword counter and I'm on my 4th run of the game now

thoughts on magic/feathering spells? any that particularly stand out?

>>717752020
thanks anon senpai

>>717752462
A lot of anons recommend Echo of Lu Bingzhang but for me it's the fireball one. Fire is great in this game, it has good range, looks cool and has alacrity.

>>717752462
The backflippy triple fireball one
The jumpy javelin one
The one you get from Bo Sorc that summons all the icicles and applies frostbite
That one you get from the first boss that triggers a backstab and builds burn
That one from the final boss is insane

>>717752462
Oh also the bubble one trivializes the entire game

>>717752462
dhutanga is the go-to backstab spell
triple fireball and fire face remains consistent throughout the game
lotus lantern actually has the property of knocking enemies off their feet even though it's not stated anywhere
lotus soulflame bursts down large bosses when used close to them
bo magus shield is obviously fucking insanely good and the def spells can be worth using even without playing magic
regen seal is too expensive and annoying especially because it's 4 cost so while its best use is to regen between mobs if you took damage you have to hit something for the 4th stack in the first place
>feathering
I never used anything other than Lun Bingzhang

>>717752806
The good Feathering spells (much like weapons) only come at the end of the game for an NG+ run. Very annoying.

>>717752876
I can't imagine anything in the feathering tree being better than the motherfucking soulflame

>>717752918
Didn't try the soulflame one but the last boss spell (the one with the giant sword) hits like a truck.

What is the sexiest outfit in this game?

>>717753485
demon of obsession outfit with this mod https://www.nexusmods.com/wuchangfallenfeathers/mods/192

>>717728852 (OP)
THE FUCK IS THIS GAME
I THOUGHT ITS GOING TO BE AWESOME LIKE WUKONG
SIMPLE BUT GREAT

THIS IS SHIT AS FUCK
REFUNDED

>>717752462

>>717754005
STOP SHOUTING RETARDO
IT'S ANNOYING AS FUCK

>>717754029
I always thought that spell could be really good if you built for it as it's very cheap, but never bothered trying it out.

>>717754064
I AM FUCKING MAD

>>717754115
OK!

>>717754115
git gud retard

did they remove invisible walls in Wukong? if not Im not playing that doghist ever again

Does Magic stat so anything for spells like shield bubble or AOE heal?
I didn't notice anything but it would be nice if heal healed faster or lasted longer at higher Magic.

>>717754005
wukong is canine feces anon

how tf do i talk to him here?

>>717754258
nyo

>>717754318
there is another path that leads to him

I just started, where the fuck is the dodge or block button

>>717754318
One of the paths from the first shrine leads to him

>>717754005
FILTERED BY DHUTANGA DETECTED LOL

>>717754318
From the shrine, take the path that goes up, and you'll see the road to him to your left.

>>717754005
Wukong was made by the chink goverment

this was made by some stinky bug eyed people living in their moms basement

>>717754648
>>717754603
>>717754374
found, thank you

>>717728852 (OP)
Is it gacha?

>>717754748
The government would never allow the widespread historical Chinese practice of cannibalism to be on display

>>717754819
Yes.
You collect panties.

>reach Worship's Rise in ruins
>check Panda hangout
>2 red-eyed fucks
>2x radiant red feather
>2x Red Mercury Essence
Christmas came early this year

>>717743657
It's been a while since I tested it, but I think Empyrean with leech was doing equal or better damage than scorn anyway. Scorn loses way too much blunt damage in exchange for slash that it doesn't use. I don't know if the axe skills do slash, but the r1s definitely do blunt. It also hurts scorn that there are pendants that just straight up boost physical and blunt damage by a % with no downside. Plus empyrean's weapon skill combos into the 3rd r1 instead of the 2nd so you build feathers faster, spend more time with clash active, etc.

>Died so much to the perfect bride that I had to clear my madness 3 times
>Losing patience
>Read a comment on youtube about dual sword and the health regen on clash
>Fuck it I'm at my wits end
>Respec, stronger clashes, more damage on consecutive hits and more defense if I have skyborn might as my gems
>Kill her first form without needing to heal
>Get slapped around a bit by the 2nd because I'm unfamiliar with her pattern but manage to kill her to
I worked very hard to get these panties.

>>717755173
>I had to clear my madness 3 times

>>717755302
Her spin move was one shotting me at full madness.

>WEDDING DRESS WEDDING DRESS WEDDING DRESS
>YOU WAN IN?? OK GET DRESS, PLAY NICE
>WEDDING GUEST?? GO THRU DOOR
>*go through door*
>ROR JUST KIDDING ARR NPC DED RORORROROR
FUCKIN CHINKS RRREEEE

>>717755417
just don't get hit

What do I answer here? I'm trying not to fuck up demon of obsession

>>717754885
I'm asking a serious question. Is it a gacha or not.

>>717755595
Doesn't matter for Obsession. Only door that matters is the one that takes you to her boss area.

>>717755595
1 gives extended Alacrity benediction
2 has a demon fight and exp items
1 is the "correct" path but it doesn't really matter

>>717755913
Bro... Your Bo blood? You do want your maddening incense, right?

>>717755173
After getting my ass handed to me couple of times I found a simple strat.
Her every move, even the long range ones end up in the middle of arena if she's standing close to wall, she can't reach you if you just run away.
Now for the damage.
She has this move where she spits a projectiles then makes vomiting noises and spits another one.
If you dodge towards her through both to get closer, she ALWAYS follows up with a long range slide + forward thrust and all you have to do is find the right distance so you dodge through her, ending up behind her.
Then charged heavy for a backstab since she's just standing there.
Wail on her while she's down but don't push your luck and sprint away early enough so you don't get wrecked if she wakes up pissed.
Repeat 5 times, she ded without touching you.

>>717755173
>read a post that doesn't understand mechanics
>dual swords
Every time.

>>717756308
I was using LS up until I got to her.

>>717756386
You know you could have parried her first form, right? Most of her attacks are just handing you your turn back if you do.

>>717755913
>>717755903
ty, that helps

Atm I am playing Lies of P, but I can pirate this to try it out and eventually buy it.

Is the scorn axe worth grabbing? It looks like a worse version of Empyrean

>>717756634
k, keep us posted

>>717728852 (OP)
They should make a DLC or sequel to this with Wuchang in European wars the time, getting a white paladin husband.

After progressing to chapter 4 I returned to Refugee camp and found a bunch of bird people.
Any other place noticeably changed? (besides wrecked Worship's Rise area)

>>717743012
Where is this? Missed it.

>>717758679
based

>>717758679
Wuchang infused with madness and Bo magic as she goes murdering her way through Europe!

>>717758870
Anon... we leave feathering behind in the dream

>>717758870
Not possible because of the lore.

What triggers appearance of a mad guy near a tent covered with post-it notes in refugee camp area?
It just happened on my first playthrough, but I couldn't talk to tent or fight the guy following two playthroughs.

>>717757421
Thanks I will be sure to do it

>>717755834
You're unironically so incredibly retarded you should die. I'm being serious.

where's the update you HACKS

>>717758990
>>717759042
That's what I get for still being in chapter 5.
I haven't finished yet.

>>717759236
Big chance you'll get fucked at the end depending on your choices

>>717759468
I didn't give my doctor guy the chisel because I caught in an earlier thread that it forces a bad end.
I'll see what other traps await in this level.

>>717759712
Whatever happens you can always NG+ and watch her ass bounce for hours so it's okay, truly the joy of impermanence

>>717734485
that's because you have to unlock the attached skill variants, one of them makes countered enemies flinch
without it the counter is useless and you're better off just dodging

>>717759712
Depending on your answer at 3rd red puzzle door in chapter 5 you can be locked out of the best ending and a boss fight.
The best end also depends on bunch of NPC quests ending correctly

>>717759881
I might pull up a guide now then because I have a few items so I think I can get a couple of different endings.
I was sad to see uhh what's her name, the consort, was dead when I reached chapter 5 because I looted her clothes. I thought I did okay by her but I guess not.

>>717759712
>I didn't give my doctor guy the chisel because I caught in an earlier thread that it forces a bad end.
Did you give the kid a scarf back in Cloudspire? If not you're getting cum jarred.

>>717760196
Eh maybe? I don't honestly remember. In Cloudspire I did some stuff for the confused old lady, did something with a bowl, and helped the gang out.

>>717755434
this pissed me off too. Until that point I was going slow and exploring all quests I could find. How was I supposed to know??!?

>>717755434
You aren't a guest bud, you never got an invite. You violated the NAP and now you pay the price.

>>717760141
People die even if you do everything right.
Can't have too happy endings in souls-likes.

>>717760141
>so I think I can get a couple of different endings.
No lol you can't get any ending other than the Jar or the Rape ending if you didn't do the scarf kid's quest

>>717761258
this is number 1 bullshit game

I cant fucking believe I missed that shortcut to the closed gate of the Refugee Camp and deliberately destroyed like 90% of all quests in this game by defeating the South General before I cleared out all of Cloudspire.

This game truly forces you to do NG runs because you are destroying shit so fast.

Even the new menu background already tells me it's endgame. I'm so demoralized...

>>717755434
>>717760610

>normal person
>plays through the game
>misses some things or did things out of order, npcs dead
>jarred ending
>did I make some mistake?
>try NG+
>hey this is cool I didn't notice this before

>/v/
>play through game
>has to go look at wuchang thread for self validation
>gets spoiled on thread
>FUCK I BRICKED MY SAVE NOW SHIT GAME SHIT GAME
pic related it's what you should be doing

>>717730609
>Serve Ming, not Qing

why would a genocidal rebel leader say that?

>Moments before disaster

>>717761542
>Even the new menu background already tells me it's endgame
That's the grass field menu you get if you hang out in avian marsh area.
Nothing to do with end game yet even if the monument at the back looks vaguely similar.

>>717761542
Not endgame at all. You're at like ~45%
What's the outfit?

>>717761643
I'm more angry that the Bo Magus raped my Wu than anything else.

>>717740278
Historically, the Manchus actually gave him a proper burial after he hung himself as the Rebels entered Beijing. How the fuck was he spirited away under the watchful eyes of the new Qing-Dynasty government to Sichuan to become some dragon mutant?

>>717741045
>bitemarks on the tits

h-hot!

>>717761694
that was so fucking retarded. What else am I? so I went right and never interacted with the sexy girl

>>717761989
Very carefully

>>717749083
Lanky is just Souls aesthetics.
Ming China didnt really consume Opium that much. It was virtually unknown during that time period and even later during Qing it only became more widespread and less of an absolute luxury item when the British flooded China with cheap Bengal Opium.

>>717762109
>What else am I?
You are someone delivering a dress to someone. You aren't a guest. You're a glorified doordasher.

>>717762410
kek I dont think I ever got that quest

>>717748921
>lanky and weird
Bo Blood. They're the descendants of bird people with purer blood than most of the others.

>only shows item description and not what it does when placing pendants in warehouse

>>717756156
>You do want your maddening incense, right?
What even is the point of that stuff?

>>717762893
>I want to be mad right now
>I'm not near the shrine
>I don't want to generate a demon on death
I think these are the conditions under which you would use one

>>717763027
>I want to be mad right now
/v/ must sniff a lot of maddening incense

>>717761542
Wait what dress is that???

After the cancer the ice area was, this avian forest is so much nicer and prettier.

>>717763371
for me it was the other way . snow is just boring

>>717763371
neither area was particularly bad
i thought the ice area was going to be shit too with how much complaints there were and it was just whatever

also the exploding zombie towers were completely pointless you just fucking walk around them yet i remember cleraly people bitching about them early

i'm really fucking skeptical of anything people complain about now. going to bai mansion later today and then taking the storyteller's quest, i cant wait to see how overblown the difficulty of the latter bosses are

> take the wrong door
> quest chain ruined
You cannot begin to comprehend how fucking angry I am right now.
How much does this fuck up the game?

>>717763712
probably not that much? its mainly just the kids you meet isnt it

>>717763712
it doesn't

>>717763712
The gang dies much earlier.
Not like you can save them (all), most die later anyway.
This doesn't affect the endings.

Dont think im supposed to fight bo sorceror now, even with the old guy's help I barely did half her health.

>>717763712
>How much does this fuck up the game?
You miss the 8 foot tall woman doing the Killer Instinct leg uncross and recross.

>>717756487
Dual Swords can parry too, but that anon definitely doesn't know how to play if he cleared his madness. If anything you want as much madness as possible at all times. She's super fucking easy with Dual Swords too

>>717764354
That's normal. She's the second hardest boss in the game, I think. She had me feeling that way all four runs I've fought her right up until things just pan out right and I win.

>>717764372
I've literally only cleared for that boss due to the sheer amount of damage she was doing.
I parried the shit out of honglan, didn't occur to me to parry her, I was treating her like the mistress due to her habit of using a strong one shot attack.

I wish panties and shoes are seperate items...

Which area should I do first? Zhenwu or Avian Marsh? Which one breaks less NPC quests?

>>717765537
Neither breaks a quest. Avian Marsh is optional but recommended

>>717764372
>Dual Swords can parry too
Can they? I thought they could only do the block not the full counter thing Longswords can

>>717763712
What makes me angrier is that the quest breaks as soon as the boss door is opened. At the very fucking least they could have designed this quest in a way that it only advances IF she is killed.

>>717765845
It would definitely make more sense that way since Wu resets time on death

>mfw gtx 1060
>unreal engine mod makes the game run comfortably at 60fps at mid settings
Fucking BASED

God, I love modders. Shit like this inspires me to want to learn how to make mods.

>>717765790
yeah the animation is quicker than sword counter too I think, you also do a running lunge if you attack after a successful block

>>717766497
What mod?

Do I just copy over the "Saved" folder to back up a file before I get the ending? I fucked this up last time and don't want to again.

>>717766530
What do you think, anon?

>>717766530
https://www.nexusmods.com/wuchangfallenfeathers/mods/5

Forgot to mention that I'm using Lossless Scaling as well, so it's actually making the game run comfortably at *30* fps.

>>717766601
There are at least two engine.ini mods. Which?

>>717766497
Does it fix UE5's trademark stutter?

>>717767069
I spent a lot of time trying to see how high of settings I could get away with, but when it runs at 30 fps it looks pretty seamless. I'm going to actually play the game in a bit now that I've got it as optimized as possible to see if the stuttering has disappeared entirely.

What are anons most hated enemy type? Because I hate those stupid birds with crossbows, seriously who thought giving an enemy type multiple high damage fast ranged attacks was a good idea.

>>717766656
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1A71Q9jd0sm0MaCRWib8SJEY_urNk-Wuyl2pK5UI_4DI/edit?gid=1403108104#gid=1403108104

This changes too many options. How many of these are placebo or an actual detriment?

Tell me about Wuchang!
Why does she steal panties?

>>717762109
>>717761694
can you explain please

>>717767723
To give to me so I can cum on them

>>717767429
>seriously who thought giving an enemy type multiple high damage fast ranged attacks was a good idea.
It's a mob copied from Elden Ring and its an absolute nightmare of an enemy over there too

>>717762109
>>717761694
>get told to go right
>go down
>no lights
>curtains
>big door
>hmmmmm.... this definitely looks like a boss fight
>let's go take a peek upstairs to see what's going on up there first

>>717765467
It's honestly so weird that they aren't.

>>717767483
It made a pretty significant difference for me. I don't know nearly enough about grafix to tell you why, exactly.

>>717767429
TOO EASY, TOO EASY
>>717767843
Their crossbow isn't rapid fire and that enemy is nothing compared to the avian hunters. It's not even a copy in the slightest

>>717767857
The "correct" path is also filled with curtains, big doors and elevators- also the fact the quest fails the instant you enter the room, not after killing the boss like with the monk.
No reason to defend what is obviously bad game design bro.

>>717767724
If you go towards the direction she sends you, you'll trigger a boss fight and dooms a group of NPC children and a butler to early death.
You have to search the palace first and interact with NPC that later becomes the boss to not fuck up those quests.

>>717768442
>another anon that can't read or tell what context clues are
You love to see it, you love to see it. Upstairs looks NOTHING like a boss fight. Not only that, when has there EVER been a boss fight upon going up an elevator in these types of games? I've played DeS, DaS1+DLC, DaS2+DLC, DaS3+DLC, BB+DLC, Sekiro, ER+DLC, Lies of P+DLC, Nioh 1+DLC, Nioh 2+DLC, Stranger of Paradise+DLC, and Lords of the Fallen(2023). Not a single one of these games in the base game or in DLC have a boss fight after taking an elevator up or down. A big, empty hallway with no lights and a single door isn't the biggest "boss room ahead" sign for you? Come on, dude.

>>717768717
kekaro you can feel the seething coming from this post, that anon got you good lmao.

>>717768834
That's the best you can come up with? lmao

>>717766656
I use this and have a 4090 (laptop kek) and can only run the game at 40-50fps at max settings. Sometimes even drops to 30+ fps. Sometimes I drop the settings down to medium and performance doesnt improve the slightest.

I guess I'm fucking fucked. I get the feeling that this game is running better on worse hardware somehow.

>>717767429
The senior maids in cloudspire can suck it

>>717768883
Did you refresh the shader cache?

>>717769130
I used to fear them and exclusively tried to kite them with magic, but since I had to respec to dual blades, I am now breezing through all these super aggressive enemies with one hand.

The game really has certain cheat-code weapons.

>>717769159
I'm technically illiterate. How do you do that?

>>717768883
I run a mix of medium and high

>>717769256
Honestly, I'm just going to post a link. I don't want you to think I'm trying to trick you into deleting anything important.
https://portkeygamessupport.wbgames.com/hc/en-us/articles/14659998310803-How-To-Clear-Your-Shader-Cache

What's the best discipline for one handed swords?

>>717768348
mkay now make a webm of fighting one that you don't get unawares

So there's a pendant that increases the damage of bullets. What's that about? Is there a gimmick weapon that shoots bullets that I didn't try out or something? I didn't bother checking the movesets for every weapon I found.

>>717768348
The axe just spoiled in how braindead using it while exploring is. You just mash light attacks and most enemies just die without the chance to do anything.

>>717769516
>Is there a gimmick weapon that shoots bullets that I didn't try out or something?
TWO of them
>I didn't bother checking the movesets for every weapon I found.
...

I just reached the bad ending spot, do i still need to backup my save or the game was patched so you can continue NG after reaching one of the endings?

>>717769434
thanks anon.

>>717769516
Firearm blades

>>717769662
Forced into NG+

>>717769598
>>717769714
Sounds cool, I'll have to try that next time.

>>717769510
That one poise-break stab that comes later in the tree. The lower branch.

Perfect for the evasion sword, which lets you get behind the enemy to punish them with a heavy stab that breaks their poise and opens them up for obliterate.

>>717769779
Oh yeah, sounds like a good skill, thanks.

>>717769289
Framegen? And are you using the mod too?

Kek I get 60-90 with Framegen on a good day.
But yeah, I'm gonna test the shader cache thing that anon posted, maybe there is still hope.

>>717769976
No framegen

>>717769909

You are putting points into feathering to reach that discipline, so it becomes a no-brainer to use the Spear of Lu Bingzhang as well - and since the Discipline costs 2 Skyward Might, you need a shitton of stacks to make it useful, which locks you into playing a magic build.

You are kinda locked into a very cancerous playstyle with this tho and people will claim that you didnt beat the game kek.

>>717770068
Is TSR better than DLSS?

>>717770139
I don't know. I haven't changed the setting since launch

>>717769512
>tackling your problems without a plan in mind
Sounds like a fools errand

>>717769536
>The axe just spoiled in how braindead using it while exploring is. You just mash light attacks and most enemies just die without the chance to do anything.
I mean, you can do that with other weapons too. Like Longsword, Dual Blades, Spear, and 1hand Sword

>>717767483
Forgot to *also* mention that I changed my monitor’s refresh rate to 60hz. I think that helped a lot with the texture scaling.

So basically, installing the engine.ini fix, turning down refresh rate, and using lossless scaling makes the game run smoothly (confirmed just now that it’s without stuttering) at 60 fps at mid settings.

>>717766548
It worked. I won't need to go through this a fifth time.

>>717729257
I already 100% and beat it legit.

I am once again asking: what on earth the Bo Sorcerer meant by this?

>>717730230
Isnt this who the old lady asking for dumplings looking for

>>717771374
Archaic way to express that she wants you to fuck her cloaca with your feminine penis.

>>717771374
She has to be the only real avian left. Everyone else is a mutated descendant in the process of feathering.

>>717771374
She means that Wuchang is trying to mess with the cycles of death and rebirth and if she continues doing so, she'll destroy herself. Wuchang has been at it for thousands of years already and in many of the cycles, she's gone insane.
>>717771512
No, that's Qiao Ying. Qiao Lin is her son.

>>717771609
I'm pretty convinced the "Wuchang" you are playing as is actually Bai Yu

>>717771786
Nope. Bai Yu is dead. That is fate. She will never be revived.

>>717728852 (OP)
>found shiny axe on roof by fire nigger in first area
>good bye sword things

>>717771872
Oh... I need to go for the proper endings AS SOON AS THEY PATCH THE FUCKING GAME

>>717772159
>needing a patch that's going to make the game easier
heh

>>717772260
I beat the game on the current 'tard difficulty. I don't need to prove myself to anyone.
I just want the combat to be enjoyable. I don't care if it's easier.

Sex with Fang Yao?

>>717772351
I'm not proving myself to anyone either and I'm doing NG+ right now, about to fight the final boss and get jarred

>>717771872
I'm not convinced. All the fights are about putting down revivals and the final cutscene is a Charon type boat to the afterlife

Is it possible to make a magic build without one handed swords?

>>717769779
Are you misunderstanding what "Poise Break" is or does Vanguard Breaker really do count as a backstab move?

>>717772523
The true ending (Bound by Fate's Threads) is taking place in the real world after Wuchang (Bai Ziyun) decides to finally move on rather than continue trying to find a way to revive her sister.

>>717772427
No. Sex with evil women.
Demon of Obsession? Sex.
Bo Magus? Sex.
Bo Socerer? Sex.
Huang Yan? Sex.
Huang Jian'e? SEX.

>>717772609
Poise break is a status ailment, I understand. But in my testing, the enemy's actual poise bar (the round one) gets filled quite fast when I do two fast vanguard breakers.

>1M copies sold
>DLC confirmed

We cant stop winning, Wu-chanbros.

What's the build variety like? Can I be actuallty tanky? Playing Elden Ring and getting very bored of every hit > 70% of my life despite using the strongest armor in the game with most of my points in hp

>cant save the cute commander

sade

Full STR Axe playthrough or full DEX no magic onehand sword playthrough?

>>717767429
Those fucking bag carrying cunts that poise break you

>>717773220

>>717773459
but you can wear her still warm, sweaty and only slightly bloody clothes
that has to count for something

>>717773436
Yes, literally every weapon tree when fully built makes you either tanky as fuck, a self-heal monster who just deflects every enemy blade, or a heavy warrior who just poises through everything, takes little damage and heals yourself after.

In this game, the armor isnt just drip but actually useful in terms of stats. You will find yourself changing your armor according to the bosses and areas many times over.

>>717773587
based thanks, picked up

>>717773459
There were no female commanders in the Imperial Guard! Because they were all eunuchs!

>>717773587
>either tanky as fuck, a self-heal monster who just deflects every enemy blade, or a heavy warrior who just poises through everything,
Spear does none of this kek

>>717773508
>full DEX no magic onehand sword playthrough?
You'd be gimping yourself. The Zhanlu Sword hits like a truck though since it has VI scaling for both Agility AND Feathering so having both of those high will make it a great weapon to use and you don't even need to use magic. However, I'd recommend it regardless unless you truly like cock and ball torture against certain enemies and bosses.

>>717773665
I kinda wished Fromsoft games had the clash mechanic. It's kino as fuck to larp as kung fu fighter who is just wildly attacking the enemy and deflecting blows at the same time. I previously thought sekiro was like this, but in that game I could either attack or defend (sure, this was the game mechanics but still)

>>717773694
I found that spear evasion skill pretty strong desu. You actually did AoE damage whenever you did your kung fu backflip.

>>717771786
If that's the case, how are there two wuchangs in the same cycle?

>>717773751
>forever denied the Zhanlu because I fucked up his quest-chain

sad.

>>717773885
How can you fuck it up? You can get it with either exposing him or remaining silent. I know this because I have 2 of them

I think I just bricked my save by talking to the storyteller after fierce tiger :(

>>717773994
As long as you didn't teleport, you're fine. If you did... Well....

You literally only need the starter sword to win the game.
Nice of the devs to offer shitters an "easy mode" without actually offering one.

>>717772743
jian'e is a plain jane at best, yan though.. her legs are long enough that you ain't getting out of that leg lock

>>717773981
I did all of that right, but when he apeared the third time in the refugee camp, I didnt know that you needed to find that shortcut to open that door with the bridge. I thought that I needed to progress Zhenwu temple until I can open that door, and when I defeated the South General, he was gone. The child with jar probably as well.

So how do you use axe against humanoid bosses? It's too fucking slow for backstab fishing.

>>717773694
>hit autododge+damage button
>hit "turn around I want a free backstab" button
Spearcels don't know how good they have it

>>717774179
Strong attack has clash the entire spin, 3rd light attack has clash and the follow up staggers.
Basically almost everything staggers on axe so you can unga bunga.

>>717774059
>You literally only need the starter sword to win the game.
Just like in heckin dark soulserino......kino....

>>717774265
Alright, in your opinion what are the discipline skills that are worth using?

>>717774056
He asked if I wanted to proceed and I answered, while looking at the cave right next to him

>>717774270
NTA but that "starter sword" he refers to is probably the One-Hand sword you get very early. Yes, that thing is busted. Has no special stats, but that evasion skill is literally the "I win" button.

Anyone else get caught by the failed brides lunge attacks like 50% of the time? They're a genuine menace

>>717774186
>>hit "turn around I want a free backstab" button
which move is that?

>>717774343
Earthshaker causes a stagger or knockdown (not sure about the rules) and gives you an hyper armor buff afterwards.
Rampage I tried using but didn't quite find the niche and I haven't tried the corrosive explosion one.
As for weapons arts the one you get from the empyrean axe is great since it makes you jump and staggers on landing and I'm pretty sure it sets shit on fire if used from a switch draw.
All the other axes comes much later in the game but there's one that's fucking kino and you shoot a cannonball from your axe.

consider wuchangs ass in pirate boots

>>717774524
>which move is that?
Steam powered spear turns any humanoid around with it's weapon skill

Sorry but axe is not canon. The MC's arms are literally sticks there is NO way she swings those fuckin things your axe playthrough was fan fiction.

>>717729686
You're a real gamer, congrats anon

>>717774582
You mean the overlord set?
Yes, shit is fucking coomtastic

>>717774714
The MC isn't really human

>>717774161
>I thought that I needed to progress Zhenwu temple until I can open that door, and when I defeated the South General, he was gone.
Did you not create a topological map in your head to determine that going through Zhenwu Temple was NOT going to open that door to the bridge? Personally, I saw "does not open from this side" and went "how do I get over there" and after some trekking and navigating my way through avian forest, I came up on the other side.
>>717774382
>he answered the call
tsk tsk, anon. tsk tsk

This is so wholesome...

>>717773508
You can with Boreal Abyss. The weapon skill counts as a "Throwing Item" so pendants that boost those will also boost this weapon skill.
There's a pendant that boost ailments for throwing items. Pair it with the Ice Temper and you'll proc frost alot.

>>717774869
Grown women around teenage boys. Wholesome indeed, anon

>>717774869
Would be a shame if some dutiful citizen reported those traitors

>>717774832
Yeah, I thought that avian forest was a late game map and didnt know that there was a very convenient shortcut that lets you get to the door even without actually moving into the marches.
Welp, I'm planning for a NG anyway, since I missed not just this questline.

>>717767857
so? just because right happens to be a boss fight, doesn't mean left isn't a boss fight you massive retard. chances are 50/50. There's no reason to assume there are npc's on the left.

>>717728852 (OP)
Bros I'm too old, I suck at video games now. I love Chinese culture and history but I'm dogshit at this game :(

>>717768348
how did you make such high quality webm?

tips on thunder guy in zhweng temple or whatever? using longsword and I had LESS trouble with bo sorcerer than this dude

This game makes me want more games with Jade Beauties.

Will Wu-chans play the other Chinese games that are coming out later this year?

So was the Ming dynasty really this fucky or are they embellishing.

>>717775084
ANON, YOU HAVE THE POWER OF SIGHT. YOU USE YOUR EYES. YOU GO UP AND LOOK AROUND. YOU KEEP YOUR PEEPERS OPEN AND FUCKING LOOK AROUND BEFORE OPENING ANY DOORS. How fucking difficult for you guys to think like this? Is there nothing going on in your brain?

>>717775182
Don't let him take the pace or get away from you, stay on top of him the entire time and every time he whiffs back stab his ass. Once you realize his back/sides are totally safe he's a memefight.

>>717775098
Don't worry you can just use the dual swords and mask R1 with leech
Or you can just use an Axe with Rampage and Leech

>>717774056
what do you break by teleporting?

>>717775197
It's literally the fall of the ming dynasty and it's a small snippet of a region of china.
In china if your dynasty fails then you get 30+ warlords rising up in arms, raping everything and wanting to be the top dog themselves.
It was true in 300BC and it was true even until WW2.

>farming for avian hunter
I remember some people posting about doing this. You can just buy those equips, retards.

>>717775164
The area is dark and there's not much going on plus it's short. I'm no wizard and all I use is 'webm for lazys'. It's supported by some BR. He changed retards to lazys like a faggot but it makes better webms than the webm for retards as this one is actually still being updated.

>>717775182
He's ultra weak to corruption and maybe frost.
There's anti-thunder balls that absorb a certain amount of damage that you can take pre emptively as well

>>717775273
>HUR DUR I'M DERANGED
Retard you pick one side then you go there a bit, before going the other way. So stop acting like a moron. You didn't make any deductive decision dipshit. You either read it somewhere or went upstairs cause it was 50/50. You didn't use your big brain power you mega nigger to solve some puzzle.

>>717775098
don't give up anon, you can do it!
>>717774758
no I mean the pirate set that you get from he youzai

>>717775197
Late Ming was quite fucked up. The depopulation of Sichuan is a historical fact, but whether it was truly the Wild Tiger Rebel warlord who did it or just war, plague and famine, is contested.
There are scholars who think that it was all Qing propaganda to portray Zhang Xianzhong as a monster who genocided Chengdu, after all, the Qing actually presented themselves as "Avengers of the Ming" since both Ming and Qing hated the rebels more, and the Qing was actually "invited" into Beijing witout a fight to restore order.

In any case, the fall of the Ming was actually quite prolonged, since there were Ming remnants in Southern China and on Taiwan long after the Qing took over.

China's current claim over Taiwan can be traced back to that time when a Ming loyalist fled to the island and set up a government in exile on it, only to receive a naval invasion by the Qing later on.

>>717775276
>>717775489
ty

>>717775523
nobody sane goes down 2 floors then see a boss fight and say hmmmmmmm I should waste time going upward cause MAYBE i will break some quest. Nobody thinks like this because it's nonsensical and stupid and the fact that they design games like this and you accept this, doesnt' make you smart, it makes you mentally retarded

>>717775523
Just because you're retarded doesn't mean everyone else is dipshit. Downstairs could not be any more obvious that it leads to a boss fight. It's literally perfectly set up for it. Whereas when you go upstairs, you can look through windows and get views inside all the rooms. Not only that but an elevator has NEVER led to a boss fight in ANY game in this genre. OPEN YOUR GOD DAMN EYES, YOU FUCKING IDIOT

>>717775098
this game actually has an easy mode.

>>717775558
>Taiwan
I'm fairly certain that it was dutch controlled even after the ming fell. Sure there was a bunch of Han settlers but it wasn't part of the middle kingdom.

>>717775638
I did this. I went down, saw the big area. "huh boss fight let's check it out"
Then after dying I went the other way to explore.

>>717775815
Yes, the Dutch controlled Taiwan until Koxinga, who was a Pirate like Wuchang defeated them with his Ming-loyalist troops.

He set up an exile government on Taiwan until the Qing took over the Island.

>>717775681
>us that it leads to a boss fight.
so what? >>>>717775681
Literally so what you fucking mongoloid. It could've been any boss there. Unrelated to whatever the fuck is upstairs cause you can't know. Thats the whole point. For all you know somebody upstairs will tell you to kill somebody downstairs so you might as well do it first. So again, nobody thinks like this because its nonsensical

>>717775915
exactly. AFTER dying. which is what I've done as well but I was already locked out of a quest

these FUCKING ARCHERS IN CLOUDCANCER

>>717775920
Lol I was reading the article about the history of taiwan and just got to that part when you (You)'d my post. Well the more you know.

>>717776075
Koxinga is an interesting character. I wonder if another Wuchang game would deal with his exploits. Would fit the piracy theme.

>>717776035
you can safely sneak up on most of them

>>717775997
https://voca.ro/13noBv4vtblC

>>717776383
lmao faggot seething hahahahaha

>>717776729
What can I say, you got me

>>717776140
Chinese pirates seem to be more like privateers in the west, since I find it funny how you arent just arrested on sight by the Ming (yes, they attack you, but because of your feathers and not because you are a pirate).

>>717748921
Chinese tradition. If your child dies unmarried it's bad fortune for the family, so you find another family with a dead child and have a Barbie corpse wedding. Also if you're engaged and your fiance dies you still gotta marry the corpse. Illegal today, but they still do it and even rob graves of women cause of the shortage.

The game doesn't really say outright, but I assume her son died, either before or during being physically attaching to the bride, in an effort to keep him alive.

>>717777291
>The game doesn't really say outright,
Xuanyangzi does say "he got what he deserved". Referring to Huang Yan's son after you defeat her.

>>717777291
Never heard of this

>>717777256
Duh, I mean Wuchang's Bai clan seems to be noblemen. You are probably only larping as pirate because your daddy couldnt secure you a cozy office job.

>>717777291
Sounds like bullshit but I believe it.

>>717777828
Wuchang's father was the local governor of the place. Wuchang and her sister fleed when he tried to resurrect his son but made him a monster that killed him.

>>717777828
>Duh, I mean Wuchang's Bai clan seems to be noblemen.
Wuchang's dad was an official, it's stated multiple times.

>>717778243
>it's stated multiple times
>pic doesn't state it anywhere
What did anon mean by this?

>>717778169
>>717778243
wtf where is that mentioned that her dad was an official?

I'm only at Zhenwu as of now, will I get it once we return to the Bai mansion?