Thread 718312218

>game is times longer than it should've been
Post em

I want to fuck Aubrey.

>>718312218 (OP)
Reminds me of that skilled catgirl BF player

>>718312218 (OP)
Guys, I'm thinking about doing a video essay about this game and how it relates to my daughters suicide.
Is this a good idea?

>>718312757
bitches mean yes when they say no

>>718312218 (OP)
how many times?

I liked the ending, but I think it would've been nice to have a game about a suicide the had no answers or reason behind it that the characters had to come to terms with

Combat was dogshit though

>>718312218 (OP)
Is this the game that started the whole "earthbound-like game about depression" meme?

>>718312218 (OP)
It should have never been a game at all, but a webcomic.

I wish I also have her power to go back in time and stop myself from buying it in the first place.

Hollow Knight is a 15 hours game stretched out to 50 for no fucking reason.

>>718313238
Fifteen times

>>718316816
Being a game works in its favor more than it doesn't. The issue is it's just too long.

>>718312218 (OP)
Omori wasn't too long
When I beat it I still wanted more

>>718312218 (OP)
The game has like 4 final bosses and finales its like they cant decied what they wanted the game to be about
at first its about a neigbouring kingdom invading than a foreign empire and then the same Kingdoms starts a second atack and at the end some evil guy shows up and its a time travel story
Love the game but hate the story

>>718317501
Agreed, I hate these fucking zoomers that think a game is too long if they don't get a hit dopamine every 5 seconds.

>>718316816
Nah would've been ass as a webcomic. Unless it's some multimedia comic, I like the OST

>>718312218 (OP)
star ocean 3
legend of dragoon
dk 64
metroid prime

>>718313347
>absolutely awesome story in an rpg, conwuer the bad giy save the world everyone gets a family youre going to be extremely happy
>main character just pulls a gun out as soon as the villian is dead says ",ok my task is complete" and blows his head off, completely out of nowhere
that would be amazing

>>718317501
I beat RE2 twice and it is shorter than my Omori playthrough.
>When I beat it I still wanted more
I hope I could bomb that useless whale while you're inside of it.

>>718317145
I liked this game!

>>718317812
How long was your playthrough? Took me around 18 hours.

>>718317906
>18 hours
Did you just speedread the whole thing?

>>718318052
Nah, I didn't do any of the side content tho.

>>718312218 (OP)
it's the perfect length

>>718318052
For me it was 40 hours because I autistically do everything (including shit like grinding money for all the paintings)
>>718318094
So yes

>>718312218 (OP)
This game is so melodramatic and it's hard to take it serious when even the in real life parts are silly and quirk chungus.

>>718312218 (OP)
Never read the book but i looove jerking off to the characters

Is this game as faggy as it looks?

>>718320145
Its not woke at all.

>>718312218 (OP)
what the hell was basil's problem? fucker could have at least written

>>718320205
I'm going to download and play it, thx.

>>718320145
No. I assumed it would be full of woke shit but I was extremely surprised positively that it had none. No gender, no faggotry, no pronouns. It really is a great game.
>>718320316
Good choice, have fun

>shota perfume
Based Japan

sisterfeet

>>718320498
nice

honestly needed more time with kel, the other characters fell short

>>718312413
She and the other one have removable panties

>>718320584
More quality time with Kel would be nice

>>718320706
Omocat is really based for triggering westoids so much

>>718317808
that was suda51's first game, super fire pro wrestling special

The plot follows the path of a fictional pro wrestler attempting to prove himself as the strongest there is. Through a long train of ranked matches, he slowly gains notoriety as a wrestler as well as the grudging respect of his contemporaries.

The hero encounters Akira Maeda's fictional sister and falls in love with her, but she spurns his romantic intents, causing him to fall into a deep depression. To make matters worse, just before his championship match, he watches as his American trainer is killed right before his eyes. Even after becoming the undisputed pro wrestling champion of the world, it's a hollow victory without anyone to share it with. Deciding that everything was all a waste of time, he commits suicide.

>>718320706
No, I want to fuck the blue haired Aubrey. The one that headbutted Earth. That Aubrey is the sexiest woman of all time.

>>718320917
I think she has removable panties too. And the dead one as well.

>>718317501
>wanted more combat encounters that stop being challenging third of playthrough in
You are deeply disturbed.

>>718318094
>I wanted more
>skipped half of the game
lol

>>718312218 (OP)
>tease that something is wrong
>game is back to being cute for next 6 hours
>tease that something is wrong again
>game is back to being cute for next 6 hours
>tease that something is wrong yet again
>game is back to being cute for next 6 hours
Omori doesn't have pacing issue, it just doesn't have pacing at all.

>>718322623
I'm NTA.

>>718322716
what did you expect, jumpscares sonic.exe styles where you just plain fucking die?

>>718322716
Thats only for the dream sections. The real life sections are what's wrong.

>>718317501
I've done everything in this game and I still want more.

>>718322883
I want the game to remember what it's trying to do, it's a story game that forgets the story and trails off every 5 minutes. It's like it's told by Nern from LISA, expect even his potato bitch wife tales were more focused.

>>718312413
I want to FUCK the flower boy.

>>718317501
>>718323325
It's unfinished, but try the Reverie mod. You get to run around with the girl baker, Sweetheart, and Spaceboy.

>>718323481
gee it's almost like the game is about a kid failing to stay inside his shell despite his best efforts to withdraw further inside.

>>718317501
you must be demented, the humphrey section didn't need to exist literally at all and the girlfriend section was at least twice as long as it needed to be

>>718323481
>>718322716
Your comparison doesn't even make sense. The stories are completely different, hence the execution and pacing of the scenes are different. Every 5 minutes doesn't mean anything, the stories are nothing alike.

>>718324491
>Reverie mod
I've got 2 questions before I get into this:
>does it have any woke content?
>does it have new music?

>move on to install mods
>mods have DRM
cucked game

>>718312757
I like Omori because he is a hikikomori like my daughter, except he is alive. Oh god I wish my daughter was alive too ;_;

Omori also likes knifes and he is cool. And there are picnics in the game and that's good because I like picnics and I will never have my daughter back. Why am I such a loser?!

Omori is like my dreamchild he has a σ_σ face I love that. He is also alive why aren't real daughters alive!? I got childless a lot of times but I love omori and he wouldn't kill himself because he's so nice and cool.

We would play videogames all day and watch Hazbin and other cool cartoons on TV, and I would hug with him because hugging is so good. I wish I could have an alive child.

>>718326368
>>mods have DRM
You fucking what? What mods have that and how do they work?
This is the most cucked shit I heard since the Switch custom firmware that had DRM (the devs got fucked for life by Nintendo, and in this case it was deserved).

>>718326507
That will be over 2 million views on jewtube

>>718326269
>does it have any woke content?
No, it stays very much in the same tone as the base game. Maybe even less gay since Basil is still in Faraway, while you as Sunny has moved to the city. Closest it gets is a headstrong girl who is a massive fan of Space Boy, and a boy who is a big fan of Sweetheart but still isn't a girly as Basil.
>does it have new music?
Plenty, some of it even stands out to me.

Also it has an Alice, if that's important to you.

>>718326601
pics seems to imply that. haven't checked because I don't install tranny mods

>>718312757
Why do women try to train men into effeminate cucks if they want serial killers who beat them? Is it a convoluted way of filtering potential partners?

>>718312218 (OP)
any game longer than 20 hours is a boring slog to me. I'm not a virgin NEET who has all day to play vidya anymore

>>718312218 (OP)
Game would've been at least 5 hours shorter if enemies didn't respawn. LISA, Undertale, Felvidek and F&H1/2 did he right thing by not respawning its enemies, or doing it only in dedicated farming zones. Wasting time on clicking though some bunny that decided to attack your overleveled party is not fun.

>>718327187
Basil doesn't qualify as woke shit for me, neither do boys crushing on girls or girls crushing on buys, so it seems fine. It is very rare to see western game modders inserting mental illnesses into literally everything they touch, so I appreciate it.
>Plenty, some of it even stands out to me.
Excellent
I'm going to play this. How far is it from being complete? It says it has around 10 hours of play time, which is pretty impressive.
>Also it has an Alice, if that's important to you.
What does this mean?

>95% of Headspace is completely pointless
>75% of the Real World is just shitty fetch quests
>the gameplay is complete garbage
OMORI should have been a VN.
it still wouldn't be good because the characters suck and the twist doesn't make sense, but at least it would be better

>>718317501
I think the problem is just how much of it is non-optional and stretches out the time between story beats. I think if a lot more of it was optional or else in the Hikikomori route where you're committed to not getting the story it would have been much more tolerable.

>>718328842
They should have at least done the Earthbound thing where you automatically win the battle if your level is too high.

>>718312218 (OP)
Is it long? My Universally Loved save has 19 hours and Omori route save has 16. I've put more time into Pokemon games as a kid.

>>718329015
I mean not inserting, obviously.

>>718328485
They dont need every man to be fuckeable, only a few is enough. The majority is more useful as effeminate cucks who they can manipulate.

>>718328485
What makes you think they aren't trying to have both? That's why they also push for open/non-monogamous relationships.

>>718312218 (OP)
Hollow Knight feels bloated.

>>718312757
I know grief makes people do stupid things, but genuinely, how in the name of god can that guy think that was a good idea?
And why did people actually support it?
jesus fucking christ just end me already

>>718328485
Society is a gigantic shittest. You failed.

>>718312218 (OP)
OMORI's only redeeming value is its cute boys.

>>718312218 (OP)
its over tranny lovers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0WKn_2-c_U&list=LL
cheater completely expòsed

>>718328485
Chad is for fucking around.
Effeminate cucks are for settling down and th«aking care of the kids (often from past relationships).

>>718330406
why didn't he write back or leave clues? that was very rude of him

>>718312218 (OP)
Genuine question, is there a game with worse pacing than this?
I really mean it, I would play just to see how is there anything that manages to be worse.

>>718329015
>How far is it from being complete?
That's a good question, as I have no idea how much story is supposed to be left.
Currently you can explore the Subway Station, Fallen World, Sweetheart's Castle, and Pyerfly Woods, as well as one Real World sequence, though that's not nearly so long as any of the ones in the base game Sunny route.

>>718331345
any trails game

>>718326269
If you consider homo content woke (just in case you don't care just like japanese cartoons have yuri and yaoi couples, trap shit and more from time to time) there's two homo npcs but surprising enough it's much less woke than Undertale or Deltarune.

>>718317501
You wanted more because there was very little of the game that was substantial in regards to the plot. The balance between the real world sections and the dream world sections is all fucked. Nights 2 and 3 could stand to be shorter by half, because once the player gets into the real world the dream feels like distracting filler, which is accurate for what the game is going for, but it goes on way too long compared to the real world payoff sections.

>>718331345
I sadly can't believe I am going to say this but Deltarune. It might be difficult to see it now when there's a pause with each episode but when the game comes out fully and you decide to play it from start, remember my comment.

>>718331345
why do you think games can't have intermittent plots?
>start new episode, get to new zone
>get to safe hub, get new task for the episode
>along the way, intermittently witness some freaky effects that hint at something going on behind the scenes
>episode finishes, you get to witness a new segment of the overarching plot
is it so hard to picture an episodic format? fucking paper mario had a structure like this (hub area->new area->talk to people->main dungeon->finish mission->cutaway to peach and new exposition dump->rinse and repeat)

The Legend of Heroes: Trails series is filled to the brim with filler shit. Everything takes 3 times longer than it should at minimum, and enemies constantly escape situations they shouldn't be able to so you can fight them again later.

>>718322716
You just described life.

>>718317501
>>718312218 (OP)
feels good being a chad who enjoyed the dream world section of omori (except the cheese hamster part fuck that), too bad its make or break for alot of people

>>718332078
Damn, I was afraid of this when I played chapter 1 and 2 to get ready for 3 and 4. It was so long that I got deeply tired of the game and only got back a week later.

>>718329634
>And why did people actually support it?
This is the biggest wtf to me.
One retard does something tasteless on the internet? Same old
People rally around it and overwhelmingly support it? Meteor strike this planet pls

>>718332514
he looks like Obese Female Wojak in the thumbnail

>>718331345
omori is the only game i know which has a plot so tasty if you're unspoiled, that it is a detriment because the other 95% of it is a video game you have to go through

>filters everyone
>gets canon body pillow merch
ENTER

>>718320706
My fucking god, based.

>>718332180
I think a lot of games work that way, I guess the only difference is how less formulaic and more natural good writing makes it look

>>718312218 (OP)
I loved it because the dream world segments is why I bought the game in the first place, it looked comfy
I was very surprised when "warning this shit depicts themes of suicide" when opening it for the first time kek

...I beat this game while using Cheat engine speedhack

>>718333213
>paper mario
>good writing
now you're just taking the piss
I was just pointing out that games having intermissions is ubiquitous
besides, if you paid at least a semblance of attention you'd notice the parallels between the dream world and real life segments

>>718333537
this but just on the switch emulator sped up to trash collect for the recycler black space 2 easter egg

>>718333579
NTA but Super Paper Mario had good writing faggot, can't speak for the others

>>718333579
>besides, if you paid at least a semblance of attention you'd notice the parallels between the dream world and real life segments
That is literally barely subtle at all, the thing with Omori is that despite the dream world making sense (even if feeling fillery) and whatever, it doesn't make it less boring/slog and too long for its own good

What gets discussed about this game up to this day in its fandom or spaces (like its general, reddit, etc.)?

With Undertale you could understand because there were open bait points like Gaster and AU possibilities injecting some artificial life into it until Deltarune dropped. But with Omori? The only thing I could think of would be of symbolism theories from dream world or what would happen after the reveal in the ending. Is there really much discussion about the main plot itself or its characters to this point?

>>718334587
I guess the ending is up to interpretation so there's that. When it comes to the fandom tho it's mostly just teenagers and troons getting into shipping wars.

>>718331824
>"homo content" isn't "woke" because there are "yuri and yaoi" couples in anime
this is your mind on /v/. fascinating.

>>718332078
Awful opinion, Deltarune is literally the opposite of OMORI. It's the same basic concept but with actually good pacing and writing.

>>718334587
shipping. also, arguments over whether or not Sunny will get forgiven by his friends/whether he deserves forgiveness or not
OMORI's fandom is pretty much dead nowadays though.

>>718335269
As I said, let's wait for the game to drop out fully and people play it from the very start, ok?

shotas

The fun thing about OMORI's Headspace segments being so bad is that it makes people forget that the Real World segments really aren't that good either.

>>718334587
That's enough complaining-about-games-you never-played for you, anon-kun

>>718335116
I mean, or you think it is always woke which makes some games you enjoy also woke or it isn't by default unless it's very clearly covered by a tiny political motivation for progressive representation.

>>718335685
I am not complaining about anything there, I am asking what people is currently talking about Omori, years later. The game doesn't even seems to have any deep lore to retain spark enough discussion for so long. Oh, and I got all the achievements btw.

>>718312218 (OP)
Touhou Mystia's Izakaya being like 60 hours of doing the same thing and I haven't even touched the post game content due to how mind numbing it was

>>718335613
People like the real world segments more because they actually feel like they advance the plot or reveal more meaningful information (it happens in dream world too but it's very specific and short moments, like the lost library), definitely not because of the gameplay aspect that feels like whatever they thought of to keep the player busy.

>>718335269
>Deltarune is literally the opposite of OMORI.
deltarune is similar to omori and vice versa, the only difference is that deltarune is a much shorter game. chapterly releases has blinded you from the way deltarune does actual plot and storytelling. it has gaps just like omori, just like LISA, just like pretty much any of these games. toby has to make an actual game as filler between these segments. the difference is that you like it comparatively

/v/ seethed so hard over the Legend of Zelda segments in chapter 3 just like how /v/ seethes over omori's dreamworld

LISA btfos both these games and the parts when it's not dealing with the plot are infinitely more nonsensical

>>718330403
>verbal diarrhea autism faggot cannot summarize his thoughts succinctly and present them in a digestible form that wouldn't insult the bits used to store it

>>718336981
>ends with him saying its better than off

>>718336981
It was funny. And btw, you're doing the same thing by writing all that instead of simply replying with tl;dr.

>>718336927
Sure it has gaps but the gaps in omori are much larger, events in the light/dark worlds both matter

>>718336927
>deltarune is a much shorter game
Is it? With the 2 new chapters, I'd say Deltarune is pretty fucking long, and it will definitely be longer than Omori by the end.

>>718336927
Yeah hard agree, after playing it and after the hype died down, I recently watched my friend do a Deltarune playthrough from start to finish
As it's released in chapters? Fine
As ONE ENTIRE game like the rest? It's a mix of Toby trying to please
>the people that play this as it comes out
>the people who will play this game a decade from now, complete
both at once. Most chapters are a slog if you don't care about dark worlds, but the super interesting stuff happens at the very end of the chapter. Chapter 4 is the only one to break this cycle, and even then, it's only in really short bursts throughout the chapter. Really, the part that makes it acceptable is that singular Chapters are much shorter than your average YIIKlike. You could sit through these Zelda games, or interacting with Darkners that aren't super important in the grand scheme of things that you also don't really care for (Rouxls Kaard for me, for instance), because all that good tasty shit is waiting for you at the end. On the other hand, if you actually LIKE the zelda segments, or the darkners you spend the majority of your time with, or like Susie (which the game heavily relies on you actually liking as a character), then it is completely enjoyable throughout. I cannot say Deltarune is not similar to OMORI/LISA because actually caring for the segments is a big part of it, having less gaps of "downtime" to the actual story shit due to a chapter release cycle doesn't make it unique.

>>718335269
Saying deltarune has better writing than omori is peak retard. Deltarune doesn't even have better writing than undertale and that games message is basically killing bad no matter what

>>718335269
>with actually good pacing and writing
completely subjective
the pacing of undertale was much much better than deltarune, you're holding it to a different standard because of the way it's released in segments yet you compare it to an actually complete game

>>718336927
retard, the problem with OMORI isn't that "it has gaps", it's that these "gaps" are too long, badly written, not funny, don't have good characters, and contribute almost nothing to the main plot (+the gameplay is shit too). none of these issues apply to Deltarune.

>>718338373
>it's that these "gaps" are too long, badly written, not funny, don't have good characters, and contribute almost nothing to the main plot (+the gameplay is shit too).
all of these apply to deltarune besides the length depending on who you ask
>NO YOU SEE ITS BECAUSE I LIKE THEM THAT THEY'RE GOOD
is not an argument retard. i feel like ive had this argument with a homestuck fan before and we saw how that ended
i can tell you're already assuming deltarune will end in a satisfying way just from how you feel about it so far

>>718338578
>homestuck
You're right
Are Deltarunefags the homestuckfags of 2025?

>TO BE CONTINUED 2026
YOOO OMORI CHAPTER 1 WAS LIT
KEL HYPE BROS
I WONDER WHEN WE'RE GONNA SEE RW MARI

>>718338752
always has been, always will. been real.

>>718336927
You can remove 95% of Headspace in OMORI and literally nothing would be lost. You can't say the same about Deltarune because the Dark Worlds ARE the main plot.
Deltarune's biggest advantages over OMORI writing-wise are that -the main characters are consistent between the dark worlds and the real worlds, which allows them to have actual character development -the Dark World segments have actual consequences in the Real World -Kris is way more interesting compared to Omori/Sunny -Unlike Omocat, Toby Fox is capable of writing funny dialogues -Deltarune doesn't have shitty, boring side quest that serve no purpose besides lenghtening the game

>>718338928
You know what, considering deltarune and paper lily, I wish more of these types of games would go the omori route and release fully finished.

>>718332078
I really can't see Deltarune suffering from the same pacing problems as Omori. Omori dragged because after the revelation that Headspace is a fabrication by Sunny, you continue to spend more time there even though you know it has no bearing on anything and is essentially an intentional waste of time in-universe. I get that it's ludonarrative harmony but I don't think that the game is better or more clever for showing you that your fantasy adventure is meaningless and then making you go on increasingly longer fantasy adventures because it's the main character's coping mechanism. I still think Omori's pretty good, but I just found myself wanting to go back to the real world whenever I was in Headspace because I found that part of the game much more interesting and purposeful. I can see Deltarune being longer than Omori, but as far as story:gameplay ratio I think there's just more to chew on in it. Especially since in Omori you're being mislead until the big twist at the end that pretty much everything is in service of, meanwhile in Deltarune there's much more overarching mystery and character moments

>>718338292
Please don't reply to me ever again if you don't have anything interesting to say besides "uhh, your opinion is, like, subjective, ok???"

>>718338076
if you think that anything in Deltarune is worse than this, you may have brain damage.

>>718339412
>shows random inconsequential joke that has no bearing on the story or themes
Thanks for proving to me that you are a retard.

>>718339412
Susie x Noelle writing is harder to sit through than this, and is way more abundant than two minutes. Deltarune is the first game that i've seen the main intended yuri ship fall out of favor sheerly from how poorly written it is.

>>718339101
>You can remove 95% of Headspace in OMORI
I am completely aware that this is a shitty cop out but the headspace sections being so long and pointless that you forget about what you were doing in the real world until they suddenly end and you wake up is kind of the point.

This is fine for your first playthrough but it makes even thinking about replaying the game painful. Which is made even worse by the fact that the two routes require playing through the headspace slog twice and the hikikomori route has no new interesting content to offer until the very end game.

>>718317501
I couldn’t fucking believe after going all over to grab the keyboard letters that they had you do the fucking whale. Three sections of that horseshit when I just wanted to see the interesting part of the game

>>718339584
This is true. I'm sure the retarded Noelle ship is written badly on purpose though. On the other hand, parts with Susie x Kris are written extremely well.

>>718339618
I've played this game 4 times, and enjoyed headspace more every time. I think it's because I was less locked on finishing the story and found myself exploring more for whatever secrets there might be in sunny's mind.

>>718339412
>two minutes of this cringe that nobody who played omori defends
>an entire game littered with the worst lesbian pairing ever forced upon a player because of the creator's dyke fetish
ill go with the former

>>718339412
it's a dumb silly dream world that's been in the making for years, so it's perfectly reasonable for new elements and characters get introduced out of nowhere as if they were well known. hell, hero apparently does a shitton of things offscreen given how many rewards you earn with him as a leader from helping others

>>718312218 (OP)
Simultaneously too short, where even after doing every one of their sidequests not nearly enough time was spent fleshing out all of the side cast of characters at home base that had very promising writing, and too long because the combat had nowhere near the complexity or depth it needed to be fun playing beyond 30 hours, let alone the 60 it took to beat it.
Game was basically nothing but potential building only for a few moments to really pay off and the rest completely squandered.

>>718312218 (OP)
>yeah most of the game is mediocre, but at least the twist is great!
>t. OMORI fans
no it isn't, the twist makes no sense. even if you somehow ignore the logistical issues, am I really supposed to believe that nobody, including the police, realized that it was a cover-up? her body should have had obvious bruises, at the very least.

>>718340276
It's the other way around. The twist is not that good, but everything in the game is great.

>>718339529
it accurately the game's overall writing quality, you're just a coping retard.

>>718340276
They knew, anon.
That's why the dad left

>>718339584
>>718339867
oh, so the people defending OMORI's writing in order to shit on Deltarune are just brainrotted "game bad because lesbians" retards, thanks for letting me know

>>718338752
Reminder that toby famously worked on homestuck.

>>718339753
The talk of Suselle being outright bad writing is overblown. It's one-sided, nor do I believe watching Noelle fawn over Susie is interesting, but because it is pretty clearly the logical result of Noelle's fixation on "safe fear"; she develops a crush on the school bully (who hasn't actually hurt her). The only thing that could happen to make me really start hating it is to portray Susie as 100% both understanding and reciprocating Noelle's advances, but that hasn't happened so far and I doubt it will happen given even their festival "date" is platonic on Susie's end (since she already said Kris and her are a pair at the end of Chapter 2 and wishes Ralsei could come).

>>718340276
They did know. Sunny's dad disowns him over it and divorced his wife because she was trying to sweep it under the rug. It's also why in the dream world no adults show up, why Basil keeps disappearing, and why Sunny is replaced with Omori. Anyone that knows the truth must be expunged.

>>718340746
You feigning stupidity doesn't work here. The intended, mainline lesbian ship that the creator is pushing, losing favor on tumblr of all places, mean the writing isn't there.

Sex with Sunny
Sex with Kris

>>718340781
ive only ever heard this
>toby, who did chapter 2 scenes where they interact in general, the ferris wheel scene, who had the entire chapter 4 house segment dedicated to it, is writing is bad on purpose because uh... it's not going to be reciprocated!
take here. atleast twitter/tumblr drop the act and straight up say kris is going to cuck her.

>>718339101
>the main characters are consistent between the dark worlds and the real worlds, which allows them to have actual character development
This is a straight up lie.
99% of Susie's character development takes place within 1 chapter, within a couple of hours, and the outcome is an unbreakable bond to the main character who isn't really themselves in the first place. Omori's character development is replaced by how dreamworld main 5 characters (that you spend most of the game with) contrast their real world selves being that 4 years has passed. None of them revert to their past selves at the very end, Aubrey (the most drastic) still has been permanently changed by the events you gradually uncover, even when she's friendly again.
Any other DR character development (Noelle's, Berdly's) is quite literally worse than Omori's because ironically they think it was a dream, and revert to their pre-dark world selves. You saying "but they'll find out eventually" like some cashout waiting at a future chapter doesn't change this fact.
> You can't say the same about Deltarune because the Dark Worlds ARE the main plot. - Deltarune doesn't have shitty, boring side quest that serve no purpose besides lenghtening the game
The main plot points of Deltarune are
>hey im from undertale what is happening? i wanna see asriel and where sans came from (toby made sure to state you only play this game after undertale)
>the knight and the prophecy coming to fruition
>what the fuck is up with the character im controlling
>what happened to dess
And none of these required 99% of the dark worlds. Yet, the setting and vehicle to the plot is just as important. Finding Toby's idea for a dark world being interesting isn't guaranteed, as we can see from the chapter 3 zeldaslop segments (that has an entire section of it cut out btw because it was more of an unimportant trek than it already is). It's just a different, shorter shade of shit than Omori's dreamworlds.

>>718341147
i would say tumblr doesnt speak for the rest of the fanbase but this is literally deltarune lmao, ive already seen how the threads here percieve suselle kek

>>718341385
Except I don't think it's bad, I think it's Noelle using Susie as a means to an end and the character implications behind it are interesting / satisfactory even if the scenes themselves are intentionally awkward.
>It's totally going to end in a happy storybook romance even though the information we have doesn't convey that because... why else would Toby write the scenes?!
And the Chapter 4 house segment is explicitly about getting the codes to the bunker. Noelle just uses it to attempt to get closer to Susie because she doesn't know why you're actually there

>>718339101
the characters in headspace are frozen in time faggotron. they haven't developed at all. the contrast is made markedly clear the moment you meet them in the real world

>>718339753
>Susie x kris
No such thing.

>>718340276
They did know retard. Maybe if you didn't speedread and paid attention to the game you wouldn't make yourself look like a retard.

>>718340605
>>718340908
i am aware of this theory but I don't find it convincing. how does it explain the cops/paramedics not finding out about the cover-up? again, the fact that the suicide was not her true cause of death should have been fairly obvious just by looking at her body. furthermore, even if it's true, I don't think it makes the twist much better, sure it explains that plothole but, in my opinion, sunny's parents helping him too makes the twist lose quite a lot of its impact.

>>718312218 (OP)
any JRPG, CRPG, turn based game: Persona, SMT, Expedition 33, Baldur's gate 3

>>718339618
They could have made characters forget objective without the need to make it so long. It would still get the point accross without the abysmal pacing.

>>718342160
Yeah I know that, that's why I wrote in my post that this is one of the reasons why OMORI sucks compared to Deltarune, because that makes the Headspace characters completely boring, please learn to read retard-kun.

>>718341147
damn, Krusie must be a really bad ship if Tumblr likes it that much.

>>718342915
It's not a theory, there's a room in black space where Sunny's dad says it explicitly. Also the police knew as well, but Sunny was 11 at the time so he couldn't be tried. His mom tried covering it up saying "I've already lost one child, I can't lose another one" And the Dad divorced her over it.

>>718328115
This doesn't imply that at all.
It just feels like a stock disclaimer trannies put up to virtue signal about piracy being le bad. Meaning if you have questions about running it on a pirated version of the game, they won' help you in their discord safe spaces lmao

>>718341147
>losing favor on tumblr
>screenshot posted by a 4chan user who clearly voted in that poll
?

>>718320816
sounds kino

>>718312218 (OP)
I got the point of the second half but it could've really been shortened.
Seems like they decided to double down on the endless fake credit rolls and ending fake out with the second game though, but I haven't played it.

>>718343974
Ralsei also has blushing moments with kris. Kris x ralsei?

>>718341786
>99% of Susie's character development takes place within 1 chapter, within a couple of hours
Bad faith arguing, bait, or retardation? Who knows.
Ironically this describes the RW version of Aubrey much more accurately, it takes her literally one day to realize that "actually, bullying is bad!" lmao.
>how dreamworld main 5 characters (that you spend most of the game with) contrast their real world selves being that 4 years has passed
Yeah except that in practice this means that you spend most of the game with boring, one-note characters. Omocat is simply not a good enough writer to execute that concept in an interesting way.
>Any other DR character development (Noelle's, Berdly's) is quite literally worse than Omori's because ironically they think it was a dream, and revert to their pre-dark world selves.
nigger, Deltarune has an entire route about making Noelle more confident through the Dark Worlds, and Berdly can literally become comatose because of them.
also, despite the fact that he's not a Light World character, Ralsei is also a great example of the difference between DR and Omori, considering how boring all the Headspace-only characters are. Seriously, who gives a fuck about Space Ex-Boyfriend? Even the biggest OMORI fans never talk about these characters, they're almost worse than the magic characters in Umineko.
>zeldaslop segments (that has an entire section of it cut out btw
Yeah, because Toby Fox understands that pacing is important, unlike Omocat. Glad you agree.

>>718343293
>there's a room in black space where Sunny's dad says it explicitly
Your screenshot doesn't at all show Sunny's dad "saying it explicitly", there are a million other ways you can interpret that line, especially when you consider the fact that this is just Sunny's representation of his dad.
>Also the police knew as well, but Sunny was 11 at the time so he couldn't be tried.
Anon, that's not how it works, children aren't allowed to kill someone without any consequences, even if they're 11.

>>718312218 (OP)
>everyone thought Mari hanged herself
>she actually died while falling down the stairs
And no one pointed out that those produce completely different wounds on the body? What a huge plot hole.

>>718346680
>there are a million other ways you can interpret that line
Really, so why don't you tell me the million other ways to interpret this line
>Anon, that's not how it works, children aren't allowed to kill someone without any consequences, even if they're 11.
I'm a leaf so I don't know how the American justice system works, but here in Canada a minor can get off scot free, even in the cases of Manslaughter like Sunny
>>718348408
>tfw when another retard never read the thread.

>>718346680
Him going from chopping down a tree that took his daughter to giving up and telling Sunny to fuck off is pretty telling. Do you seriously think he just arbitrarily decided to hate Sunny and left his wife for no apparent reason? Get real, anon. It is very obvious that he found out the truth and decided he wanted nothing to do with the boy that hung his daughter and his wife that wanted to defend him.

>Anon, that's not how it works
Literally how it works. Involuntary homincide isn't punishable by law. Convincing the police that their 12 year old did not intend to kill Mari and it was just an accident with a testimony from Basil and the mom would be extremely easy. Only way for him to face any actual legal consequences would be if both his parents pushed for it, but Basil's and Sunny's testimonies would get them a charge of involuntary manslaughter which would may land him in Juvie.

>>718349282
I'm American can confirm nothing would happen.

Sunny killed Mewo

>>718333579
>>paper mario
>>good writing
It has amazing writing for the kind of game it is
bad paper mario writing is shit like sticker star

>>718335582
>

>I share a board with people who genuinely think that a child can get away with murder with zero legal consequences
Horrifying.

>>718354016
>Dumbass doesn't know the difference between manslaughter and murder

I never played omori but you are telling me THIS was the character some people got upset for being gay on other thread? Jesus, Are you guys for fucking real?

>>718355370
There's literally nothing suggesting he's gay. A little fruity sure, but not gay.

>>718355370
There's not really anything in the game that indicates if he's gay or not. Hell, when he realizes Sunny has a crush on Aubrey, he's supportive of it.
Though it wouldn't be a surprise at all if he doesn't end up with a few pics of Kel toweling off after a basket ball game, that he keeps under his mattress.

>>718355370
You know which group posts shit like that here.

>>718355370
If omocat literally confirmed it in this right instant no one but falseflaggers would be shocked or even make a big deal of a boy this fruity being gay.

>>718355090
>implying that it wasn't intentional
That's irrelevant anyway, a 12 years old teenager absolutely could get tried in a juvenile court for manslaughter.

>>718349762
>Him going from chopping down a tree that took his daughter to giving up and telling Sunny to fuck off is pretty telling. Do you seriously think he just arbitrarily decided to hate Sunny and left his wife for no apparent reason? Get real, anon. It is very obvious that he found out the truth and decided he wanted nothing to do with the boy that hung his daughter and his wife that wanted to defend him.
ah yes, because Black Space is a 100% reliable interpretation of what happened in reality.
> Involuntary homincide isn't punishable by law.
yes it is? that's called manslaughter?
>Convincing the police that their 12 year old did not intend to kill Mari and it was just an accident with a testimony from Basil and the mom would be extremely easy.
even if he didn't get punished he would still be tried retard, and, at the very least, get court-ordered therapy.

>>718356432
Nobody said it can't you retard, that doesn't mean its guaranteed in the slightest

I feel like too many people are assuming the police would take things into their own hands when ealistically all that would happen is the police inform them about Mari's death and his parents would simply lie about what really happened and refuse to press charges.

>>718317289
that's as many as five threes...

>>718356734
>"wtf, this girl clearly didn't die of suicide?"
>"uhhh, yeah, but don't worry I swear that my son killed her totally by accident, his best friend who just had a schizo meltdown can even give you his testimony"
>"alright then, don't worry about it, have a nice day!"
>this is what OMORI fags actually believe

>>718356981
Considering their Dad left them, I am surprised that he didn't nothing for how frustrated he was.

the truth is omocat just thought two shotas hanging a girl was badass and didnt think the rest of it through, arguing about it is futile

I just want to see more art of the world where Mari didn't die.
I just want these kids to be happy.

>>718356981
>the police inform them about Mari's death and his parents would simply lie about what really happened
If someone is suspected to have committed suicide, a medical examiner will assess the circumstances of the death EVERY FUCKING TIME without exception. They would know what happened immediately upon examining the body.
>and refuse to press charges
Manslaughter is a criminal offense, not a civil one. You can't just decide to "not press charges" against lil' Sunny.

>>718357528
yeah she probably creamed herself thinking about getting asphyxiated by a couple shotas in the process of writing it

I really hate Basil. I hate how he came up with a stupid, borderline psycho idea and how the game think he has any right to demand to not be ignored by sunny or left behind because of his own fuck up. It's even worse how the black space version reminds you of what you did as if he had no fault for anything

>>718348303
I can't believe basil is fucking dead

>>718358080
Basil was partly at fault, but the whole point of the game is forgiving yourself.

>>718317145
maybe prepatch where the stealth was mandatory and slow
postpatch you can go gunblazing through the majority of levels
great game

>>718358282
Ok I get it but I still just dislike how it acts as if he has any right to point a finger at you or judge you for leaving him behind, like fuck right off. What sunny did was not intentional, hang a girl to fake a suicide on the other hand...

>>718358112
Dead sexy.

>This thread
Kek and this is why japanese writing always makes sure to hammer the message over and over with zero subtlety and internal monologues for everyone at all times- we don't want players feeling lost at the plot.

>>718343974
Do people genuinely delude themselves into thinking this is anything more than a close friendship?

>>718340753
What game hasn't he worked on?

>>718356724
>ah yes, because Black Space is a 100% reliable interpretation of what happened in reality.
It's from the hangman hole rooms. They all correlate to real world events and several things in the real world even prove that what ever happens in these rooms are indicative of reality. You can literally see the chopped down tree, Aubrey and Basil confirm the scribbled photos, and the flashbacks show the vhs tapes as actually happening proving that everything shown in these rooms are 100% based on reality.

>yes it is?
No, it's different. Only if it is ruled as an unlawful or negligent act and not an purely an accident would it be deemed as manslaughter.

>retard
lol

>>718339412
Considering this is a dream it being so random and absurd like that fits in, despite the cringeness.

>>718359129
Mario 64

>>718358583
>What sunny did was not intentional
Source?

>>718359574
>It's from the hangman hole rooms. They all correlate to real world events and several things in the real world even prove that what ever happens in these rooms are indicative of reality. You can literally see the chopped down tree, Aubrey and Basil confirm the scribbled photos, and the flashbacks show the vhs tapes as actually happening proving that everything shown in these rooms are 100% based on reality.
>"some events that happen in Black Space are, in some way, representative of something that happened in reality" =/= "all of the events in Black Space are 100% accurate flashbacks". it's completely possible that Sunny's dad left because of Mari's pseudo-suicide, and thus Sunny blames himself for his dad leaving. or that Sunny only subconciously thinks that his parents know what really happened.
>No, it's different. Only if it is ruled as an unlawful or negligent act and not an purely an accident would it be deemed as manslaughter.
pretty sure that pushing someone down the stairs and then covering her death is unlawful.
>lol
I accept your concession.

>>718323325
>He denied Kel’s high five
monster

>>718320584
>>718320760
holy based

I love the manga so much bros

>>718312218 (OP)
Should've been onee-shota incest kino.

>Gender swapped Basil looks exactly the same
That checks out.
>Gender swapped Hero looks exactly the same
but why though?

>>718362831
We've got at least one more Polly scene to look forward to, when everyone crashes at Basil's before the climax.