Thread 718414454

Do you guys wanna talk about Banjo-Kazooie? You don't have to if you don't want to. I don't wish to inconvenience anyone. It's your choice. Sorry if I'm bothering you, terribly sorry.

>>718414454 (OP)
Kazooie is a male.

>>718414885
This is a falsitude.

A whole thread for a bear and bird? There's never been something so absurd.

I don't really mind backtracking since I also enjoy Tooie, but it's really weird to me that they made it so you have to backtrack at least once between Feezezy Peak and Gobi's Valley in order to 100 percent the game and then nowhere else. It's the inconsistency that bother me.

banjo tooie is so overhated it's almost a parody.
Really the only bad banjo is the xbox abomination I'm not even going to name.

My thoughts:

-Banjo Kazooie is dead
-Banjo Tooie had a better Metroidvania like design but Kazooie had better and more consistent platforming
-I want to fuck Gruntilda in the ass

I replayed both games to 100% last year. Fun games. Tooie’s better if you’re not 100%ING it, otherwise Banjo’s better.

Also playable King Jingaling in Threeie? When are the Tooie mods going to come out? I need new levels.

>>718416774
Hey man using the Pack Whack to double jump is pretty cool

>>718416070
It's a yin yang

The more I replay Banjo-Kazooie the more I want to try a mod that adds a bit more momentum and maybe a long jump to their moves
Just to see what it's like

Some level ideas I had:

African safari, Ocean pirate voyage for the golden Jiggy with Blackbeard who turns on you because of seasickness and becomes the boss, mall level with skateboarding gimmick, remixed Kazooie levels, Giant’s Lair, Rainforest that gets flooded, becomes water level halfway through, space level, Hell level with Cerberus boss.

>>718414454 (OP)
Why did they lie

>>718414454 (OP)
What is a breagull? A seagull with tits?

>>718418216
To make you play the game more

>>718418331
I always got the impression it was supposed to be Bree + eagle but someone fucked up th spelling. I know Breegull Beach is a thing but I still think the original intention was eagles and not seagulls.

>>718414454 (OP)
Sure thing, anon. What do you like about Banjo-Kazooie?

>>718416079
I like the expanded world stuff but it's objectively less fun than banjo kazooie, there is a lot of nothing happening, at least that's how I remember it

HURRY UP WITH THE PC PORT

>>718419184
For Kazooie or Tooie? I hope there’s one for Tooie. I need custom Tooie moves and levels injected into my veins!!

>>718414454 (OP)
I wanna fuck kazooie.
I love me a foul mouthed tomboy.

>>718420167
Based.

Kazooie after not getting a new game for 20 years

haha

>>718416039
T. Grunty

Kazooie is always pregnant and so is Ostrich DK

>>718414454 (OP)
I played this earlier this year. So much better than I even remembered. Was so pumped to finally play the sequel... WTF happened.
How did they drop the ball that hard?

Grunty's Furnace Fun is my all time favorite level in a video game

I wish every video game forced you to pass a quiz show on the game before you can beat the final boss

>>718423068
I probably play it through every 5 years or so and it's always better than I remembered it. It really is perfect. I can't even bother with Tooie. I've tried just about as many times as I've replayed the first. Everything is flawed, except the music and sound design.

>>718422653
>so is Ostrich DK

>>718422571
Kazooie should have ordered the small pizza.

>>718423068
>>718423567
Pleb opinion. Tooie is the mature game for smart gamers.

Sex with fat green hags

Grunty Industries is overhated

Banjo Kazooie is my favorite Donkey Kong spinoff game.

>>718422571
Oh my GOD yes!

>>718422571
>>718425072
>canonically obese greedy bird wife who actively whines if you aren't stuffing her beak full of greasy, fattening food
I wish I was Banjo

>>718424626
It is not the mature game. Like DK64 its designed for children with no respect for their time, who love repetition like Blues clues. Maybe it is smart but if you cant grasp how adults will not subject themselves to that insane amount of repetitive bullshit than you aren't.
It killed the series after such a strong start.

>>718425495
I think more what killed the series is the fact that Rare just doesn’t have any interest in making any more Banjo games.

>>718424626
contrarianism is not a real personality

>>718414454 (OP)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMHbEU8NCQc
New hack

Six years later and it still feels like a dream.

>>718418216
They didn't lie. All that stuff is in the game and freely accessible.

>>718416070
I think they wanted to make sure players weren't just binging through every level so they threw a curve ball to force people to leave at least one world unfinished.

>>718428192
This. It was entirely to pad out the game's play time and ensure that kids couldn't just rent it and beat it in a weekend. A lot of games did that back then.

>>718418216
the fucked up thing is that stop n swop works
they just disabled it in tooie

>>718418994
How did the Banjo series become the center of hetero erotica smut?
https://youtu.be/qOGAIK4ZElc?si=k4rr3QVxhUZzqnTG

kazooie is one of the greatest games I've ever played. tooie is also really good but I still prefer kazooie

>>718429423
>how did furries draw porn of famous vidya anthros
a mystery for the ages

>>718429423
I love the OG comic but giving Kazooie a canon-compliant voice turned this into comedy gold.

>>718414454 (OP)
Still in my top 5 after all these years. And I enjoy Tooie as well even with its issues.

I'm a few levels into Tooie and enjoying it so far. There's a few places where I can understand the complaints I've heard about the sheer amount of space and backtracking, but to be honest, nothing so far feels any worse than doing a final sweep of the whole level just for 2 or 3 missing notes did in the original.
Are things just not at their worst yet?

>>718434550
The later levels get much worse with the backtracking, yes.

>>718434550
If you're playing on emulator or NSO I totally recommend going to the cheat code room and entering CHEATO SUPER BANJO which makes Banjo walk way fucking faster and the entire game way fucking better

>>718435580
Any particular reason I wouldn't also do this on actual hardware? Would it be locked by default? Or do "real cheats" wipe your saves like in Kazooie?

>>718435947
No reason not to on the N64 version, it's specifically the only hidden cheat that doesn't fuck with your save. On 360 it disables saving though which is gay.

>>718436042
Lucky me, then, I'm playing on N64. I might try it if my patience starts wearing out. Terrydactyland is looking suspiciously longwinded.

>>718436192
Yeah Terrydactyland is the exact reason i refuse to play without fast walk on lol. Especially cuz on N64, you have a bunch of lag. So i think it's fair. IDK why they didn't make his walk speed faster by default, they really should have

>>718414454 (OP)
Where do i download it?

>>718435947
There's no penalty for cheats in Tooie. It's just on Xbox they don't let you use fast walk cuz of the dumb leaderboards

Fast walk isn't a code the game ever gives you or tells you about in any way, you'd literally only find out about it from the internet or strategy guides. But it makes Tooie way more tolerable holy shit.

>>718436447
I'm fine with Banjo being a bit slow, but I would've appreciated a passive "talon trot is faster now" move or something right about now.

>>718436192
Terrydactyland is coincidentally the one place in the game where the super banjo cheat lets you sequence break an instance of required backtracking.

>>718416079
It's honestly not that bad outside of being the first home console Banjo game in 8 years. It's barebones and repetitive, but overall it's just average. The redesigns are hideous though.

>>718436613
I don't like that using super bear makes you able to sequence break some stuff, and trivializes any minigame with a timer, but i can put up with that cuz Tooie with default speed just is not an enjoyable experience. You save HOURS of your life with fast walk on, I can never go back

>>718418216
What did she mean by this

>>718416347
For a second there I thought your post had some sort of rhyme... I think you fucked up big time

>>718437230
People seem to think she means masturbation but im 90% sure she means she wants to stick it up Mumbo's ass for denying them answers for how to get the secret items

>>718414454 (OP)
Anyone out there working on that port?

>>718418216
Why didn’t they use the memory pak?

>>718414454 (OP)
Will always be my favorite game, but I hope Microsoft leaves it the fuck alone since it's a high likelihood whatever they would do would be generated AI.

>>718434550
The drop-off happens after Witchy World

>>718434550
It's a compounding problem. Terrydactyl land is the worst part IMO and what I imagine most people think of when they talk about tooies issues.

>>718416347
Your post is true, and what I would call based. By the way, if any drawfags are here, you should draw her in panties, frilly and laced

>>718439538
A bird fucker has no room to talk

>>718439538
God i want her to rape me so badly

I had a dream I was playing Banjo-Threeie once. You team up with Grunty's head for some reason. And there's a lot you can do with kicking Grunty's head on a magic string.

So are any of you guys hyped over the fanmade Banjo-Kazooie: Grunty's Revenge remake?
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLDksGJgYtBTAOPnpQrjhp_eaOY-avZSpx

>>718434550
tooie is only shit when you go for 100% or when you replay it.
the first playthrough is magical if you enjoyed the first game.

>>718436575
i'm almost certain that superbanjo is hinted SOMEWHERE in the game, similar to how "nest king" has an obtuse message hinting to it

>>718423068
The only problem with Tooie is that it runs at like 8FPS on original hardware

>>718440371
looks like a NINTENDO HIRE THIS MAN unity project
no thanks

>>718414454 (OP)
Loved these games as a kid. Went back and played them again around 5 years ago. First one doesn't really hold up as well be tooie is still phenomenal

The older I get the more I realize that Nintendo has been run by complete incompetence since the 90s and has been just plain lucky in its endeavors.
BK was the only game that remotely had a mascot, storyline and good platforming on the N64 compared to the mountain of trash.
Tooie was then the best sequel to any game and to this day, no other game has any of these sequel winks in their games like recurring characters, gags, etc.
It is so sad and pathetic.

>>718439538
cloacafags are the worst

>>718441379
>no other game has any of these sequel winks in their games like recurring characters, gags, etc.
I remember when bait used to be believable.

>>718441379
Nintendos issues with the N64 were self inflicted. They stated they made it hard to develop on intentionally, but since it was on carts too it was financially a lot more risky for devs to invest in. It also couldn't do 2D, so games like SOTN were opted to be made on the playstation instead.

>>718440680
nah it's not unfortunately. I wish they just gave it to you when you find the first set of 5 cheato pages, that'd be perfect

>>718436608
I'm okay with Banjo being slow cuz you're supposed to fall back on him during difficult platforming segments. He's supposed to be slow and safe with his fluttery jump. Talon Trot is faster but less safe

I just wish Talon Trot was faster, not Banjo. For what's supposed to be the fastest movement option it's WAY too goddamn slow for Tooie-sized worlds. Even in BK I always felt like it was a liiiiiittle too slow

I like the idea of big hub worlds with interconnected levels where finding the 'level' can sometimes be a puzzle in of itself.

tooie was better
might rewatch that banjo kazooie speedrun video again, where there's something about the grunty board game

>>718440009
For some reason the shape this takes in my head is being allowed to play any pair made of the three. Paired Banjo and Kazooie have their whole moveset, Banjo and Kazooie both have different moves with Grunty. Banjo's focus on using her physically like a ball and chain, a whip, etcetera. Kazooie can kick her around, roll on top of her, and gets a lategame egg that zaps Grunty to its impact location. At least one segment where you have to use Grunty's head as the claw in a claw machine configuration, with Kazooie carrying her.

>>718444668
Well, Grunty's head would give Banjo-Threeie a meaning since you're controlling three characters now.

Level good

>>718414454 (OP)
honestly like yooka laylee

>>718419184
3ds port never ever

Was the music note change in the xbox 360 version justified or does it make the game too easy?

>>718447112
Too easy. We came up with a potential cool idea for this a few days ago

>take away the mechanic of extra lives entirely
>make it so dying loses ALL your Notes
>however, the new purpose of the gold trophies is they permanently safeguard 20 Notes each (so if you die with 3 trophies, you always keep 60 Notes after death. Die with 61 Notes you lose 1. Die with 99 Notes you lose 39)

Put 5 trophies per level. Now this makes it so PRACTICALLY, losing Notes isn't much of a punishment because you'll probably die with at least a FEW trophies on you. The amount of Notes you'll need to recollect in the vast majority of cases will be so low it's negligable. A very soft punishment. At the same time it means you REALLY want those trophies, they are now valuable in a highly concrete way and it will really motivate people to go out of their way for them. It's a very tangible way to directly reward the player for exploring thoroughly.

Also you could do challenge runs where you don't get trophies on purpose. Perhaps give the player a special reward for finding all 100 Notes without getting any trophies, since they've proven themselves worthy.

>>718416070
I can't remember this, it's been a loooong time since I've played it. Qrd?

>>718448143
Thats a pretty cool idea
I guess you could have the notes colored like the bananas in dk64 and then a trophy for each color

>>718448143
>>however, the new purpose of the gold trophies is they permanently safeguard 20 Notes each (so if you die with 3 trophies, you always keep 60 Notes after death. Die with 61 Notes you lose 1. Die with 99 Notes you lose 39)
The problem with this is that what notes would remain and what ones would you lose? The player would have to backtrack anyways to check where the notes were lost. Notes are also used for the player to mentally keep track of where they've been, meaning players can get lost if certain notes weren't respawned.

>>718448267
Second race needs speed shoes, speed shoes are unlocked in Gobi's Valley which is firmly after Freezeezy Peak. It's the only case in the original game where you have to either ignore the intended level order entirely, or leave a level before it's finished.

>>718448350
Just have the Notes you already collected be a different color. Gold Notes are ones you have never collected. The colored ones you have collected previously.

>collect 3 trophies and 75 Notes
>die
>have to recollect 15 of them

Now you have a pool of 75 previously-collected Notes and you only need to grab 15 of them and it does not matter which 15 you get. It's not a significant inconvenience it'll take you like 2 seconds to get those Notes back

I don't know why you'd play Banjo-Kazooie when Jak and Daxter exists.

N&B is better than people give credit for, yeah its not the same type of platforming as the original games but it was still fun and it invented a small subgenre of games where you craft vehicals

>>718414454 (OP)
Loved playing this game with my stoner friends. We had so many goofy memories surrounding it.

>>718448732
I don't know why you'd play jak and daxter when ratchet and clank exists

>>718448742
my only experience with that game is when my friend let me play his copy at his house. i created an ant vehicle called Ant Jemima and when we tested it out, all it could do was drive in circles. then i turned the game off and we played Halo Wars.

>>718418216
how did the n64 render two scenes at once?

>>718448952
ratchet and clank sucks that's why faggola go suck a dingus

>>718449131
Honestly no goddamn idea, that part of the game always breaks on emulators.

Thread will go to sleep soon. Say "goodnight bear"

>>718414454 (OP)
What level tropes are there left that weren't used in Kazooie, Tooie, or Grunty's Revenge?

>>718414454 (OP)
It's the best game ever made.

>>718440371
That one looks awful
I wish this one was still being made
https://x.com/bkgrredone

>>718414454 (OP)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1KaSfoe0l8

>>718416347
why would you want to fuck a woman in the arse?
you know there's the correct hole right next to it (which does not have shit inside it)
are you gay or something?

>>718453040
How did they get away with a house party when Bottles was still missing?

>>718450648
Goodnight bear.

>>718452410
Space and wild west/cowboy were used in Witchyworld and touch upon elsewhere, but are still worth doing full proper levels for.

Canyon. City/urban. Inside an insect colony.

>>718448143
where do you even die in this game besides the bottomless pit in the rbb engine room

>>718414454 (OP)
WHERE IS TOOTY
WHAT HAPPENED TO BANJO'S SISTER

>>718452410
Power plant/electricity based. Board game world, like with chess/checkers/playing cards iconography.

>>718453901
Impregnated by me

I 100% the game every year, very relaxing experience

>>718444101
Wrong. WRONG. You are wrong. Tooie is worse, Tooie is worse, Tooie is worse. Gotcha! I win, you lose!

Tooie was tedious, also less charming, worse writing. BK is godlike though.

>>718414454 (OP)
What does a picture of a screen door have to do with Banjo-Kazooie?

>>718438773
Huh. I always felt the opposite, that up through Witchyworld the game feels unbearable because you're constantly trying to solve puzzles you can't solve yet, and after that it massively opens up and gets a lot more fun.

>>718439538
bird... erotic...

>>718456059
>Tooie was tedious
Your impatience and lack of ability to find joy in longer-form content is not the game's fault

>less charming
Your failure to appreciate the nuance and substance that is naturally brought about by a more stoic, melancholic and serious tone is not the game's fault.

>worse writing
Literally not even remotely?

>BK is godlike though
You can very easily beat all of the levels except CCW within 15-30 minutes while simultaneously scrolling tiktok and pooping your pants

some of you unironically need jesus

>>718434550
it's just brainlets. you need to remember like 10-12 things for backtracking to have a "smooth" experience, without having to redouble efforts because you forgot the hooks from past levels. that doesn't seem like a lot but it's actually a massive iq filter.

>>718452410
Other than Gobi's and Mayahem there wasn't a ton of real world inspiration of the kind we'd later see more of in games like Sly Cooper. "Banjo and Kazooie go on vacation around the world" would be a fun setting for a game.

>>718450648
Goodnight bear.

>>718452410
Savannah, Medieval town, Gruntymart

>>718414454 (OP)
Anyone celebrate Greg Mayles leaving Microsoft and Rareware because he's an asshole who was actively BLOCKING new Banjo games after Nuts and Bolt failed? Hope that son of a bitch dies horrifically. Rareware became shit because of lazy hacks like him.

I honestly hope Rareware is closed down especially because they don't make anything decent in general.

>>718457218
Too busy sulking about the fact that I'm definitely gonna pay full price for Yooka Laylee again despite it being one of the worst games I've ever played because the changes they've made actually do look pretty compelling.

I'm returning to /v/ for this specific thread because OP didn't post some horrid incendiary bait to get people to reply. You are too good for this cesspool.

Two things:

I'm still waiting on a decomp for Tooie. I know it used some trickery to make the larger worlds work but Bottles' Glasses can't export them and I've never seen a mod from that game. Tooie has more moves and I liked it. People who slam the bigger worlds are fools. Plus it's a lot funnier.

Nuts and Bolts should have used the Blast Corps IP but it's fine for what it is.

What made the games special was the amount of detail they could cram into an N64 cartridge which blew SM64 away. Without those limitations the franchise is aimless. Yooka-Laylee sucked even though it tried to be like B-K. I love the characters though and hope they get another adventure.

>>718456532
Wait, is pooping your pants optional

>>718453901
>>718439538
Tooty and Kazooie have gross indulgent lesbian sex on Banjo's bed when he's not home

>>718458179
no

>>718453901
Probably moved away from Spiral Mountain

You know how horse girls get horny riding such a big muscular animal a s feeling it move under them? Kazooie. She's jilling off in the backpack sometimes, entrances by Banjo's musculature

>>718419184
This. Why the fuck has there not been a pc port of Kazooie when its been decompiled for a year now?

>>718440371
HOLY SHIT
NINTENDO..........

You say that you won't crash your plane
But what if you board a guy called Bane?

>>718449131
ask the programmers they're on twitter, I think it's macsomething and sutherland

>>718442217
>It also couldn't do 2D
what is yoshi's story, bangai-o and mischief makers then?

>>718456628
I need Kazooie's huge fat ass and belly.

>>718458296
While obese

>>718448379
You can't even do that, Gobi's Valley requires the Beak Bomb which js learned in Freezezy Peak. One way or the other you will be forced to backtrack.

>>718448143
You're still having to go back and re-collect the same notes, which was always the main issue. It's still gonna be a pain in the ass. But then, if you make it such a non-inconvenience then why bother with it as a punishment at all? Seems convoluted.

I think it should be more like a deduction of a percentage of your overall note score for dying, like Bananza does with its gold system. Notes respawn the way they do in the original B-K, and you'll have to collect more notes, yes, but you don't have to re-collect the SAME notes. You can fuck off to different world if you want. Notes can still be colored different to show that they've been collected once already, for 100% completion purposes.

One thing I actually quite liked in Nuts & Bolts was the rewards for completing challenges included notes. Maybe add that to the reward for completing certain quests, or challenges, which gives the player another way to recoup losses from dying.

But really, I'd like to see notes stay as collectables, which can be exchanged for a separate currency that's used to unlock things. Maybe a pool of magical music power, like the way the notes are presented in B-K. (Their musical magic unlocks the note doors.) Have the penalty deduct from this magic power instead of the actual note total. Have someone like Tooty exchange the notes for more magic power, which unlocks sealed doors and other things. You can still have the challenge reward system like above, but instead the quest giver gives you a cleft note, which can be turned in to Tooty to help recoup losses from dying. Maybe have repeatable mini games that offer cleft notes for performing well, in addition to just letting the player return to previous worlds and collect regular notes manually.

Finally, the extra life system can still work similarly to the way you've outlined, with lives acting as a sort of credit buffer for the death penalty, but without the needless repetition or re-collecting the same notes you lost.

>>718463241
>"Banjo, you lazy lump! Stop stuffing your face and help me find the gold teeth in this mess you've made."
>"I think that's niggers, Kazooie."

Hey before the thread dies, does anyone here remember the name of that Banjo mod that came out recently?
I want to play it but forgot the name

>>718466307
Banjo Nostalgia 64

>>718466535
Oh yep that was it thanks

>>718414454 (OP)
Banjo was never good.
>>718426435
What's his placement on Ultimate's tier list?
Where's Banjo-Threeie?
Where's Banjo-Redooie?
What the fuck is going on with Rare right now?

>>718414454 (OP)
Bill

>>718437563
>People seem to think she means masturbation
WTF, who thinks that?

>>718449131
It's actually really easy to render two scenes on old hardware. N64 could render to a texture, then do things like break the screen apart into jiggies or fold it like SSB's paper plane transition. You can tell when it happens because the screen gets blurry like every other texture on the N64. You know how the game freezes and the screen gets blurry every time you pause BK? That's when it renders the screen to a texture so it can smoothly draw all the menus on top.

In fact, that's not even the only way to do it. On most 3D hardware you can just render the smaller scene first and draw everything else on top of it. That's how Portal managed to render everything cleanly through its apertures

>>718470924
The effect i find impressive is some lof the reflective surfaces in Tooie. I understand it's likely a very primitive "cheated" method but it still wasn't something you saw much at all at the time.

>>718466947
>B-B-B-B-BUT
seethe, cope and mald blockhead

Junjo!

"jinjo" always sounded like a racial slur to me

>>718440371
The other 3 retards can fuck off. Looks like a good style and standard BK stuff but it will never see the light of day. Even if it does, it will be taken down for copyright shit

Even Banjo-Kazooie?

Playing it for the first time
About to start the mansion stage, so far the levels have been nice except for the underwater sewer shit

>>718460994
They are 3d objects with a fixed camera. The N64 couldn't show sprites the traditional way. You had to render a 3d quad then set its texture to a sprite, usually with billboarding so it always faced the camera.

>>718438773
Jolly Roger Lagoon is one of the best water levels in a 3D game and Grunty Industries is one of the best levels in the series, so no. The only really subpar worlds are Terrydactyland and Cloud Cuckooland, but everyone acts like these are the whole game. Hailfire Peaks had performance problems on the N64 but is fine on other versions.

>>718483480
Quads are how modern hardware renders sprites, even today. Neither the N64 or modern graphics cards need billboarding for 2D because you can just render orthographically instead of using a perspective matrix. It's way more efficient than blitting pixel by pixel in software, which is extremely taxing on the CPU thanks to massive modern resolutions. Nowadays even browsers, image editors, and application windows render on the GPU

>>718484408
The N64 did do billboarding, a lot. Trees in SM64 for example are just a flat image that rotate with the camera. It becomes very obvious with camera hacks.

>>718414454 (OP)
I just 100% Tooie earlier this year and it sucked ass. The complaint about backtracking is half true - it's not so much of an issue going back to previous worlds, but it's running back and forth in the same world that's tedious. Even teleport pads doesn't fix the problem being more of a bandaid at best and at worst being an admission by Rare that their level design sucks ass.

>>718486028
I know what billboarding is. You just don't need it for 2D scenes. You can set the transformation matrix to a simple orthographic projection and not have to rotate anything.

>>718414454 (OP)
Any drawfag around who wants to take reqs?

>>718414454 (OP)
Mad monster mansion is the best level

>>718482427
People who make these projects should remain co.pletely dark and then just shadow drop them so the ckrpos can't do anything to stop it from getting out there

>>718480862
I love SkellyDoll.

>>718486229
Controlling Mumbo is pure bloat even as a Tooie enjoyer. Nothing of value would be lost if you were to simply cut his "gameplay" entirely and just make it so he would cast his magic straight from his hut each time.

>>718487201
I can see what they were going for. If Mumbo had his own full moveset and getting around as him felt different, it'd be awesome. But they spent so much time developing little gimmicks and so little time making the levels actual challenges that require you to use your actual moves evenly

>>718480862
It's one letter off an actual derogatory name to call someone, albeit an old timey one.

>>718488026
Tooie was a bit too ambitious for its own good. The solitude up mechanic was what pretty much the entire game post Witchyworld is designed aroind but it's just way too clunky to switch characters. Also there's a lack kf actual cooperation between Banjo and Kazooie once separated, at most you just have to guide each one separately to a pair of switches.

>>718434550
To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand Banjo Tooie. The jiggies are extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of theoretical backtracking most of the moves will go over a typical player’s controller. There's also Kazooie’s nihilistic outlook, which is deftly woven into her characterisation- her personal philosophy draws heavily from Narodnaya Volya literature, for instance. The fans understand this stuff; they have the intellectual capacity to truly appreciate the depths of these levels, to realize that they're not just large and in charge- they say something deep about LIFE. As a consequence people who dislike Tooie truly ARE idiots- of course they wouldn't appreciate, for instance, the humor in pushing George Ice Cube to his death, which itself is a cryptic reference to Turgenev's Russian epic Fathers and Sons. I'm smirking right now just imagining one of those addlepated simpletons scratching their heads in confusion as Greg Mayles’ wit unfolds itself on their television screens. What fools.. how I pity them.

And yes, by the way, i DO have a Beautiful Grunty tattoo. And no, you cannot see it. It's for the ladies' eyes only- and even then they have to demonstrate that they're within 5 points of my top score in the witchyworld ring jumping minigame (preferably lower) beforehand. Nothin personnel kid

>>718419476
For both, obviously.

>>718483679
I actually like Terrydactyland.

CCL sucks but at least being the bee is fun.

>>718482504
She doesn't fuck human men, she fucks her husband who is a cartoon bear. Fix yourself.

>>718488823
>>718488026
>>718486229
Solo Kazooie is SO fun to play as though. They must have played Spyro 1 during development.

Nice of SkellyDoll and Cabezilla to be the only two niggers on earth drawing Kazooie.

how did banjo tame here

>>718469560
>>718437563
>>718437230
So girls have this thing called a vagina and instead of sperming they stick things up there to get a good feel. Crazy shit.

>>718491997
Food, shelter, and company. The fact that he found her squatting in a backpack on the beach (it was hers first) implies she was homeless or orphaned or something.

>>718469560
Gooner Kazooie is based.

(718414454)
I am here to make a Bee Radical ANNOUNCEMENT!
Did you ever notice Banjo and Kazuzuzuzu used haha brief aside hidden nintendo levels using the internal clock OBEY character portraits to trap you in a world of endless puzzle solving? Behold as I christen a new game created in this very REPLY CHAIN with a randomly chosen image from youtub dot kom.
Eekum Bokum!

>>718491846
HD Kazooie fucks

>718493142<<
Shill for Sundown natural vitamins.
WILLPOWER.

>>718420167
Imagine going at it in her cloackussy

>>718493065
>>718493275
Hello Spamton.

Who turned on the Markov chain bot?

>>718414454 (OP)
love this game so much for its worldbuilding and atmosphere

If there was a villain in the series besides Grunty, what would you want them to be like?

>>718498161
I think someone with some charisma might be neat. Imagine Banjo and Kazooie having to throw down with a local celebrity. People guarding collectibles and making obstacles because they want to impress their idol rather than because the game is British and thus everyone is an asshole.

>>718498843
>Charismatic villain
>Bad guy is a sly son of a bitch who's competent enough to at least try to exploit both Banjo's dopeyness and Kazooie's unlikability as a person
>Contrasting Grunty, who was so dismissive of the duo that she probably barely knows Banjo from Kazooie
I like it. Makes me think of how Lord Farquaad in the first Shrek completely refused to even acknowledge Shrek as a person, and then you get the Fairy Godmother in Shrek 2 who makes a point to weaponize Shrek and Fiona's insecurities.

>>718450648
>Thread will go to sleep soon.

I guess not. Fucking what the hell.

Good morning, bear!!!!

>>718502170
Good morning, bear!

>>718502170
>Kazooie talks sincerely and non-sarcastically when addressing Banjo in private.
CUTE

>>718492198
Ice cold key up the vagoo doesn't sound too nice

>>718503219
She submits to being slammed like a cudgel by Banjo. She's clearly some kind of masochist.

why is the relation between Banjo and Kazooie feel so wholesome?

>>718504676
Because she's mean to everyone except for him.

This is a thing in th Xbox version of Banjo-Tooie for anyone who doesn't know. They added a list of titles for each Jiggy and marks if you already got it

>>718506125
this defeats the purpose. Not even hints... lol. Just dead giveaways. What the actual heck.

>>718506386
>this defeats the purpose

This is exactly what i say whenever anyone suggests Banjo games should have a map, but no one ever listens

>>718506125
I can feel myself turning into Cranky Kong in real time.

>>718414454 (OP)
The first game is quite a treat
But 2 smells like stinky feet

>>718416347
>I want to fuck Gruntilda in the ass
I can see you're a man of class

>>718438463
They already released the game intending to use stop and swap for the sequel. Couldn't update the game to change it so...

>>718444051
>nobody else likes hub worlds
damn

>>718453114
tiiiiight

>>718483365
That's Clanker's home you rude fuck

>>718510876
Gruntilda deserves retribution for what she did to poor Clanker

>>718512717
Poor fucker probably had the worst fate out of everyone in the series.

Gruntly wanted to steal a weird lookin bear loli instead of the Humba Wamba chick or any of the other hot babes for their beauty.

Didn't she ever consider she just might turn into a loli bear herself?

>>718414454 (OP)
>he fell for the crt meme
go back

>>718514861
Maybe it's just a youth (and weight?) transfer machine. Tooty got FAT.

>>718513006
I think you've forgotten someone

>>718516529
At least Loggo probably doesn't have much (if any) painful physical sensations. Clanker based on his internals was originally an organic whale that Grunty mutilated with machinery and turned into a garbage processor.

>>718516529
I love the environmental story telling of this game. Going to Mad Monster Mansion and seeing that it could of been Grunty's vacation home or perhaps some world she grew up in.

>>718516892
That's pretty horrifying when you put it that way but I don't think Clanker has Grunty shitting down his mouth on a daily basis

>>718518275
Loggo must have been pretty relieved that Grunty is no longer capable of pooing after the first game.

>>718470924
>You know how the game freezes and the screen gets blurry every time you pause BK
Oh yeah, OOT did that too. The effect was broken in quite a few emulators for the longest time, just like the photos in BK's ending, so I guess that confirms it's the same effect

>>718512717
>N&B he gets dissected even further
it's really fucked up because he clearly had flesh. He's gotta sit there, unable to scream, seeing his jaw hanging as a wall decoration for the rest of his life. Could be worse, did you see what happened to him in the original concept art for N&B?

>>718463241
>racist image

Literally did not read, your opinion about anything is completely worthless

>>718519926
Believe Jewish testimony, chud.

>>718519926
dogshit newfag reply to a 10hr old post

>>718520043
>>718520518
You're mad because I'm objectively correct.

Anytime anyone spews racist bullshit, that is an EXTREMELY reliable indicator that whatever the fuck they're trying to talk about is of literally no value in the goddamn slightest. By being a racist, you are demonstrating, unprompted and ahead of time, that you are a fucking retarded dipshit with a broken soul who cannot function in the goddamn world and who absolutely should not be taken seriously for any reason. Your opinion about anything is 100% valueless, you are not an intelligent or thoughtful human being and whatever the fuck you were attempting to talk about other than the racism is GUARANTEED to be embarrassingly stupid. Every goddamn time.

>How dare you accurately judge my intelligence and character as poor, based on information about myself I'm willingly giving you!

Nah fuck off. I'm just noticing the obvious patterns. Anyone who includes some offhand racist comment in their post is ALWAYS saying the most dumbass shit along with it. It's extremely apparent your opinion about anything & everything is exceedingly low-value.

>>718521958
I am not reading that kike

>>718498161
I always liked the idea of YL's villain being a CEO even if they barely did anything with the idea. Put a CEO in a new Banjo game that tries to destroy Spiral Mountain to make way for tacky souvenir shops and coffee shops and you got yourself and who talks in a lot of business jargon like Mr. Grizz in Splatoon and has overworked salaryman mooks dotted across the worlds, I think that'd be fun.

>>718522093
Thanks for proving my point that you don't read, dipshit

>>718502738
She's never nearly as abrasive with Banjo as she is with everyone else.

>>718522283
Imagining half Capital B, half LOG but you actually fight him.

I am making a Banjo inspired game.. I hope you guys heckin' play it...

>>718518794
Yeah, I remember having to go into plugin configuration and manually toggle different render to texture behaviors to get different games to work.

>>718487201
>>718488026
This kinda highlights another problem with Tooie. Mumbo and the form changes don't really add much new to the game mechanics. Most of them are just
>Transform
>Go to point A to unlock the door/gate

That's literally it. There's no clever use of abilities that changes the traversal and gameplay in any meaningful way. Witchy World was the worst part of this since the truck is just used to honk the horn and open some gates.

>>718521958
>objectively
>all this shit
you will always be a 14-25 year old newfag nigger

>>718522943
I probably will. Rare isn't making more of them, so bring on the indies.

>>718523463
To be fair the transformations in Kazooie were largely the same. Hell id argue the Tooie ones have more going on with shit like the Submarine's missiles and the Snowball's health/size gimmick. The only transformations in Kazooie that anything goong on af all besides being able to pass certain terrain were the croc and the bee (which Tooie stole and added to)

>>718521958
based soul evaluator

>>718503219
I've heard of people using ice cubes in the bedroom sometimes.

>>718523463
>>718487201
>>718488026
Oh yeah, you just reminded me I have this thing written up in my notes. About how you could remove Mumbo Pads in a Banjo-Tooie remake and just have it so Mumbo learns a new spell he can use whenever he wants, like how Banjo learns new moves.

>Levitate - Mumbo yoinks the telekinesis ability from Nuts and Bolts and uses it himself, because Mumbo does what he wants. Upgrade: He learns to self-levitate for a few precious seconds, the same way Peach does in Smash Bros. So no gaining height.
>Power/E.M.P. - (Replaces Mumbo's original zap stick melee attack.) Mumbo gains the ability to shoot projectile blasts of magical lightning. Tapping fires instantly and leaves foes paralyzed. Or, you can hold the button to charge up the attack, creating a truly powerful lightning bolt beam that insta-kills most enemies. This lightning powers up rides in Witchyworld and interferes with electronic mechanisms in Grunty Industries. Upgrade: Tapping now gives you the powered-up version. Holding gives a much bigger electric blast that can kill a group of enemies.
>Sunlight/Rain Dance - Mumbo gains the ability to change the weather, having various effects for each map. (JRL starts off cloudy when you first arrive). As long as you're standing outside. Upgrade: He gains the ability to change the time of day, which affects what characters are doing and when certain events take place

I was gonna post all that to Reddit, but I never finished it cuz I could never think of anything interesting for Enlarge, Summon, or Life Force/Heal that would be useful during normal gameplay and not just super context-dependant gimmicky thing. I want everything he learns to genuinely expand his toolkit. Yeah Mumbo could heal himself, control enemies/statues, change the size of objects or become giant Mumbo/tiny Mumbo, but like....who cares, y'know?? I do really like the idea of removing Mumbo Pads tho and just having him learn new spells.

I want to play as Bottles in a new game. He could be unique. Make him be SHIT when just walking around normally but have him be a master at digging at super speeds and exploring shit underground

>>718522943
Do something special with the movement. Banjo-Kazooie is great but that's its biggest flaw. You have quite a few situational moves to use as keys to locks but the only consistently useful technique to get around is Talon Trot and it's not that interesting. Have lots of props to use your moveset on, and not just ones where the move is absolutely required.

That's why everybody jacks off Mario 64 despite having less interesting worlds than BK. Chaining your moveset to scamper up the terrain feels good

>>718515868
But then she should have turned into a loli, not a hot adult.

>>718516529
Ruined due to Any Sixx memes.

>>718517205
I loved the barrels in the cellar I wish that area was bigger.

>>718527615
I want forward roll to work a bit differently. I think there should be a brief second before the roll starts where Banjo is just jumping slightly and lunging forward, which turns into the forward roll.

During the short lunge window you can press other buttons to turn the forward roll into different things. If you press A during the lunge you'll do a long jump where the forward roll uses it momentum to launch you forward

>>718521958
It's not racist to mock a claim that was proven to be fake

Why do people make fan art of Kazooie bullying banjo? She never says anything bad to him and when she fucks with him in Tooie he strong arms her.

>>718521958
>I'm just noticing the obvious patterns
ironic

>>718523463
>not enjoying the van transformation for the fun of running monsters over
What would someone so allergic to fun get out of any BK game?
>>718519926
>>718521958
You will never be a woman.

>>718422653
You've failed basic bird biology.

>>718525557
>reddit
Maybe you should return and stay there.

>>718529917
When I was a kid I used the van to get the tickets from the slot machines because I didn't think to grenade egg them.

>>718529716
Self inserting as banjo I assume

>>718529716
Im pretty positive she sasses him some times, just not as often as everyone else

>>718532356
I can't find any quotes from the wiki where she directly sasses Banjo.

>>718529716
That's the only thing that kinda bothers me about Skellydoll's art. Kazooie never insults Banjo in the games. She's always just called him "Banjo", unlike all the other characters who she gives degrading names. At most she messes around with him when she pecks at his head. She's like a total Tsundere for Banjo.

>>718480862
They literally called them Jinjos because the first one they made was orange, and the dude who made them was a ginger

Grumpy was pretty deep into the dark arts man. She made herself so immortal not even rotting away to skeleton and getting completely blown apart was enough to finish her off.

>>718535449
Where is her philactery

>>718414454 (OP)
banjo kazooie is the nortubel of rare

>>718535768
Its Dingpot. Its why he feels confident backtalking her and why she bothered hauling him with her to Cauldron Keep.

>>718533085
This is my sole complaint with SkellyDoll also. It's a shame, because she draws the duo like a god and gets them at least 80% accurate. You could maybe justify it as her teasing Banjo a bit more now they're romantically inclined since she feels more comfortable with him and she knows he knows she doesn't mean it.
>>718532356
>>718532882
The closest thing would be this exchange in Tooie.
>Mr. Fit: Fancy some exercise?
>Banjo: No thanks, I don't need any.
>Kazooie: Yes you do, Banjo.
Which is still INCREDIBLY mild compared to her insults towards other characters ("plague-ridden pest" for Dilberta, mocking Bottles immediately post-mortem, etc.). She's also more forceful about insisting Banjo stay near her than he is with her if you try to leave a world as Banjo while they're separated. That's about it.

>>718530545
Take it up with them.

Do you think Banjo X had potential or would it have wore thin?

>>718536710
As long as they'd kept it as a platformer, people would have been much more accepting of the "remake but different" premise.* Either they change it enough to feel like almost a sequel and people enjoy it as Banjo3, or it doesn't feel distinct enough but can still be sold as "Banjo-Kazooie+".
*Come to think of it, didn't it have the same premise as Final Fantasy VII Remake in 2020?

>>718537194
Banjo X would have at least been honest about what it was instead of rugpulling the shit out of everybody

>>718537371
The entire premise of Banjo X was a rugpull though

>>718537371
>>718537439
Sort of, sort of not. While Banjo X's premise did revolve around being a "remake" of Banjo-Kazooie where things pan out differently, with the characters fourth-wall-breakingly commenting on the disparity, it would still be a platformer collectathon and an adventure in the vein of the first two games, which is what the early trailers promised. N&B by comparison was basically false advertising.

>>718535449
We've never even seen her get KO'd, either. At the end of Banjo-Kazooie, she's still conscious, just physically impeded by the boulder. And she can somehow hop around as a skull. Even Bowser and Ganondorf that tanky.

>>718537992
>Klungo is so retarded he never thought to swig his giant potion to get Grunty free

>>718536341
One of the Playtonic devs doesn't know how birds work lol

Cartoon Universe also commented that Octavia from Helluva Boss can reproduce without having sex because she's a bird and he thinks birds fertilize eggs outside the body. Why the fuck do so many people not know how bird reproduction works

>>718539259
Who said Kazooie wasn't having sex?

>>718516529
Fresh logs just dropped:
>>718539880

>>718537992
Grunt > Bowser/Ganon

>>718541359
>>718541281
>>718541203
>>718541126
Therapy, seek it

>>718540475
HD
>>718542853

>>718541126
They should give Humba Wumba more cute outfits to wear depending on the world like in Nuts & Bolts or Peach in Super Mario Odyssey

>>718535449
>>718537992
Yeah, that's the real success toward Grunty
Her goals are petty and she's a victim of self-sabotage on par with Dick Dastardly but she's the most powerful character in the whole series sans L.O.G.

>>718543613
Yeah she specializes in magical transformations. She should take an alternate form in each level. I always wanted mermaid Humba in Atlantis

>>718544023
Who's winning this?

>>718544231
Grunty is a more entertaining villain IMO. K rools motivations basically just come down to him trolling DK because he's mad at him.
Even in tooie grunty has a goal to get her life back, she blasts banjos house at the start and kills bottles but then moves on.

>>718544231
>With scaling to the wider Mario cast
K. Rool
>With one-time magical artifacts and doomsday machines
K. Rool
>1v1 standard equipment and powers, no calcs, no scaling to the moon punch, etc
K. Rool but just barely

>>718544098
It'd help her out given her big glaring elephant in the room flaw
Lack of proper characterization

>>718544373
Grunty is definitely Rare's funniest villain. Kriplespac is close though.

>>718418216

isn't there a sheet of ice in the way of the ice key room to stop you from going inside?

>>718544876
not if you can see a nice ice key which you can have for free

I had a dream where there was a modern Bananza-style BK game made by Nintendo and there was a part where Kazooie rapped in jpop gibberish like Pauline/Splatoon. Woke up with a boner and some precum.

>>718544231
Grunty could learn something from K. Rool.

>>718544231
>Both fat and green with asymmetrical eyes
Rare was on something

>>718548160
Grunty is a Jew. Rool is just a crocodile.

>>718544231
K. Rool has a gun. Grunty does not

kazooie if she real

>>718549768
Secretary birds are a freakishly close analogy for breegulls.

>>718549887
>>718549768
We have the technology

>>718550224
This would make the nonstop pissedoffness accurate too.

>>718549768
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCyrkrt3-7s&list=RDjCyrkrt3-7s&start_radio=1

>>718416039
Heh
Still waiting for banjo threeie and half life 3, holy shit did they predict that

>>718524145
Difference is the levels in Kazooie was half as large so you don't spend all that time running/teleporting around. And the Mumbo/split up mode is just more time wasting.

>go into kickball stadium in hailfire peaks
>crowd ambience continues outside
>keeps continuing everywhere
>only stops when I leave the world
Is this normal? Man, that's kind of annoying.

>>718552498
Which version of Tooie are you playing?

>>718552614
N64.

>>718450648
STILL ALIVE

>>718552498
It's a very common audio glitch

I fuckin love Kazooie bros and it's not even a weird sex thing, she 's just endlessly entertaining. Her being a completely unrepentant cunt amuses me greatly.

>>718552498
i had something similar happen in sm64
the music in bbh just stopped completely while the rest of the audio and even the wind outside remained
it was actually kinda spooky for 10 year old me

>>718548050
Maybe some future fans will make it real 30 years from now or something but an actual Banjo-Kazooie-Kong game would be fun.

>>718477350
>blockhead
Steve is so good the stinkies had to bar him from tournament play. Meanwhile Banjo is a low tier shitter, Drool is even lower.

>>718555223
Grunty here makes me think of Washizu.

Its crazy to think that during the M64 era that Banjo was getting top billing on N64 marketing right beside Mario and Link.