Thread 718501060

Why would the Adeptus Mechanicus be the fourth faction?

PLEASE BE GOOD PLEASE BE GOOD PLEASE BE GOOD PLEASE BE GOOD PLEASE BE GOOD PLEASE BE GOOD

>>718501253
nigga its gonna be DoW 3: 2

>>718501060 (OP)
I sleep. I'd like not to sleep, but I've been burned enough times by GW.

>>718501060 (OP)
>I thought it was gonna be Asura's Wrath 2
?????

please be dawn of war 1 with graphics

>>718501430
It's already better than DoW 3 because it seems like there are actual glory kills again and they use cover mechanics from DoW2 instead of whatever the FUCK they were doing in DoW3. I suspect it's more like a mix between DoW1+2, which is fine for me since I enjoyed both of those games.
Adeptus Mechanicus is a bit baffling as a fourth faction when you already have Space Marines though.

>>718501253
>astartes
>nucrons front and center
>no name dev
>no name publisher
>modern GW content
its gonna be shit

>>718501253
>Primarishit
>From the makers of Iron Harvest
Not a chance

THEY KILLED CYRUS IN THE TRAILER
WHY
WE'RE ALSO GOING BACK TO KRONUS

>>718507231
its probably just an excuse to primaris him

>>718501060 (OP)
>fresh take on RTS gameplay
I am going to purchase a game for the first time in nearly 10 years

>>718510067
you should wait a while till after launch, its probably going to be shit

Dawn of War 2 but with more units like Dawn of War 1
>Large empty map with choke points and no terrain interaction
>Run your armies at each other while spamming hero abilities.
>DoW 2 req points and power nodes
They really can't stop slurping Company of heroes cock.
>Iron harvest devs
Oh yeah its gonna be turbo shit

>>718504460
AdMech are likely the cause of shit going wrong by waking up the Necrons. It's not like the Imperium is a single entity with everyone getting along either, there's different hierarchies that actively compete with each other.

>>718510962
red pill me on iron harvest, I only saw a bunch of concept art and thats it

>>718510620
But this is why nobody makes RTS games anymore. We're all stingy cunts waiting for the next age of empires 2 thats never gonna come out. Even a valid attempt is gonna be a purchase from me, and if its truly dogshit I'll refund.

>>718510620
This

It straight up looks like DOW 3 guess the dumbasses are still trying to make a MOBA / RTS instead of an actual RTS game

Not gonna buy on launch thats for sure.

>>718511996
that's not the issue. the issue is that it looks like shit. If this looked anything like DoW I or II stylistically i'd be interested. Hell just the fact they put Primaris marines front and center is enough reason for me to lose interest. that's just not what warhammer is to me and I imagine that goes for a lot of fans of the original 2 games. theming and aesthetics are a big part of a visual medium.

>>718501060 (OP)
No IG, no buy.

>>718501060 (OP)
it looks exactly like i thought it would
fuck
at this point i only have myself to blame for expecting anything

>>718501430
I was told dow3 would have good gameplay if it wasnt crippled by the moba shit

>>718509437
He got rekt as a primaris though. It's probably just a spoiler.

>>718511969
Was interested before it released, looked cool but everyone kept saying it was bad to play.

>>718501060 (OP)
didn't dow3 megaflop?

>DoW2 theme
>Cyrus in the trailer
>Kronus

Man they really want us to forget DoW3 ever happened.

I'm mildly optimistic.

>dow1 instant classic
>dow2 strangle the golden goose a bit to make it work harder
>dow3 sell the goose's rotting corpse
>dow4 dress a group of indians as golden geese and tell them to make a good game

>Chaos is the secret 5th faction enemy
>It's Emperor's children

>>718515775
Dont be, game and minimap looks more like dow3 so they just want us to think it never happend. Might still buy it if it will be half playable since I am a fag for DoW.

https://youtu.be/lAPm8fIy5mg?si=i_wva5dPFXrhh3LM
>Playable Necrons and Mechanicum faction
>Apparently new system is a cross between 1 and 2
Man, this is grea-
>Cyrus confirmed dead in in the fucking trailer
FUUUUUUCK
SAVE US FORCE COMMANDER ARAMUS HAIRGEL
WE NEED YOU MORE THAN EVER

>>718512707
Imperial Guard was his slave name, he's called Astra Militarum.

So you're only fighting Orks and Necrons?

No Chaosniggers?
No Eldar?
No Tyranids?

The Blood Ravens symbol is wrong, who the fuck are these devs?

>admech with no forgeworld designs

Yikes...

>not relic developing
>published by deep silver

I won't get excited for it but please don't be shit

>nu 40gay shit like primaris and sniggers
40k is dead and gw killed it. there will never be a good game again because it's been poisoned at the source.

>>718518036
No you're fighting Orks, Necrons and Admech.

>>718511762
Yea, politically. Or throught the threat of force (autoloaders yadda yadda). Within an RTS map's distance no admech would dare actually engage astartes in battle because they would be absolutely fucking obliterated

>>718518408
Also funded by the german government so you can bet there will be nothing grim about it

>>718517018
>OG cyrus voice
>Angels of death soundtrack
Seems interesting enough, I hope vanilla ice and thaddeus returns somehow

>>718518226
Why is his rifle carried instead of built in? If he drops it he can't pick it back up. Also I hope that's not wood on the gun.

>>718501253
ZERO CHANCE LMAO

Is Steve Blum back?

Why Cyrus exactly? No Hairgel and Gaben Angelos?

>>718501060 (OP)
>41k
Huge pile of shit, but the majority of toddler diddlers will praise it for its daring revival of something irrelevant.

>>718512547
>Hell just the fact they put Primaris marines front and center is enough reason for me to lose interes
Are you retarded? They putted them in the center because 1) They are marines, GW spoiled child 2) This is how they look up now and they want to be lore accurate.
And for fucks sake, you aren't going to notice the retarded vent mask for most of the gameplay
>and I imagine that goes for a lot of fans of the original 2 games.
As of now, the overall opinion is positive from most people

>>718518837
40k admech takes inspiration from DaVinci. According to sculptors.

The animations look like utter dogshit wtf were they/them thinking?

>>718518738
Seems more like it's relying on nostalgia.

>>718519346
I dont care what the excuse is, primaris marines are lame.

>>718519626
Ok boomer

>>718501060 (OP)
>no chaos
>no eldar
>no tau
>get AdMech
I get Mechanicus is getting popular but did it really need to replace the other staple factions?

>primaris

They have work cut out for them to get any decent looking units into the game.

>>718519397
That's an idiosyncracy I would expect from some corner of the Imperium more than the ugly "efficiency is artistry" of the Admech.

Cyrus is already a Phobos Marine when he got stabbed

Did they hire his OG voice actor just to kill him and be a dreadnought?

>>718501253
The soundtrack Is glorious...

>>718520068
Yeah, it was glorious when it was the ost for DoW2 in 2009.

>>718501253
is not made by relic at least which means that you'll not have to deal with the retarded zoomed in camera that plagues CoH3 AND AOE4 plus you can expect the game to have some bones at launch

>>718501060 (OP)
i welcome them trying to really expand upon mechanicus as a faction
with them being once equal to he imperium in power they certainly feel like they're as significant as the grey knights

>>718501060 (OP)
Dunno, asset reuse?

>40k game
>not empire vs chaos
Dead on arrival.

>>718520278
B-b-but i can merge it with the old soundtrack while i play starcraft

>>718501060 (OP)
Why the fuck can't it be like DoW1? this just looks like 2 (which was shit).

>>718520645
trailer gave me some hope, definitely base building in it and the ork footage looked a lot like dow 1 ork gameplay

>>718519397
>oh cool it's a guy piloting a robot walker
>hey wait a minute the guy is actually just a gunner and the walker is actually piloted by a gimp nugget
before I knew what they looked like I thought mechanicus would have cool high tech shit like marines but better. imagine my disappointment when I found out what they actually were like.

>>718520869
originally the mechanicus were completely non-standardized. they had units ranging from lightly augmented guardsmen tier stuff to heavily augmented units that could give a space marine a run for their money.

>>718514937
Because it was shit. But now that 40k has hit new peaks of popularity it would be stupid of them to not try and capitalize on it.

Holy fuck just make DOW1 again with better graphics that is all we want

>>718520869
Well, being able to modify a criminals body that far without it expiring from infection is pretty high tech.

>>718501060 (OP)
>relly on nostaliga from dow2 with Cyrus and dow2 soundtrack
>gameplay looks like dow3
>primaris
>new devs
It will be shit.

>>718501060 (OP)
It has base building so im caustiously optimistic, i dont give a fuck about fidelity because im not a MUH GRAPHICS fag

>>718501060 (OP)
oh dear god please no it's going to be so bad WHY DO YOU FORSAKE THIS FRANCHISE SO

>>718520869
The gimp is just a servitor for controlling the perpetual motion of the ironstrider

>>718521459
>snigger hut
what's the point of base building if it just lets you build nu 40k slop?

>>718521295
40k borrowed from the old style of crude genesis between man and machine, big bulky steel shit that sticks out. the rule of cool applies here. though ive never thought those guys looked interesting, neither this nor the old version of their design

>>718521586
Youre a tourist thats never played a game of 40k in your short life.

>>718521459
im not concerned with the graphics, im concerned with the aesthetic style. so far, DoW II looks better to me.

At least there is some hope this won't be shit

>>718501060 (OP)
I hope it sucks, 40k fags deserve worse

>>718521459
>base building
>it's just a button that you press which brings a building down to a pre-determined location
it's over for us, 40Kbros. We lost.

Maybe Creative Assembly will save us with Total War 40K.

I'm tired of the instant negativity on every new game thread.

>>718501060 (OP)
>Why would the Adeptus Mechanicus be the fourth faction?
because the Mechanicus, just like Marines, Necrons, and Orks, have recently gotten new model releases and box sets
that's literally all it is

its become painfully obvious in the past few years that GW is making devs make games about currently being sold product

>>718521736
I played the old video games and I played the actual toy soldier game on tabletop simulator. I will never accept primaris slop or beast sniggers.

>>718510067
It looks like it's just another slight twist of the first Company of Heroes, which is why DOW 2 and 3 were so radically different from 1.
>>718511969
Not him and I've only put in 7 hours 2 years ago, but it felt extremely lacking. The "you can get things like heavy machine guns for free on some maps" idea but felt absolutely worthless in practice because you can just spawn them normally and not lose out on an entire infantry squad that could capture points, and the "you can have units pick up weapon boxes on the map and swap to a different one" is made completely irrelevant because you could just spawn units with those weapons to begin with, and units were functionally identical across the 3 factions. It also suffers from being an alt-history version of WW1 because I'd rather just play an actual WW1 RTS

>>718522074
Lmao what. Admech got a single model this edition, just like every faction has.

Its last large release was at the end of fucking 8th ed you absolute buffoon

>>718521948
they literally show the player placing down a building in the trailer before you get more upset at your own imagination

>>718521956
Well shit I guess devs should make better games then.

>>718522126
>I have never played the game

Thats all you had to say kid

Primaris are cooler than first born

>>718522350
Shut up Cawl! Go back to your Necron boyfriend

>>718522347
if you play 10th edition you are an absolute niggercattle retard

>>718522497
one step closer to 40kart

>>718522221
they literally just released a mechanicus box for horus heresy

>>718521459
>has base building so im caustiously optimistic
So did Dow3.
>source
played open beta 2 weeks before release, even had some fun once figured winning strategy in 3v3, still didn't buy.

>>718522497
>brother, your hearing damage is not service related

>>718501253
*blocks your path*

>>718522497
we laughed because we didn't know how much worse it would get

DoW3 2.0

>>718522631
Thats mechanicum for HH, literally has nothing to do with the admech for 40k. There is no cross pollination of rules or models.

Its also just a combo box, one of many that are released constantly through the year. This game doesnt even have a release date yet and you seriously think a box set announced last week has any bearing on a game that'll probably come out next year?

I dont expect a reply to this because you'll realise how retarded you are

>>718522990
warhammer was never a serious setting

Lmao why did they choose to go for total war style cards? I caught a screenshot and genuinely thought it was TWW40k for a second.

>>718522213
Yang Wenli...

>>718522574
Its hilarious how predictably pathetic you guys are

>>718521948
>Maybe Creative Assembly will save us with Total War 40K.
CA is turbo incopetent. TW 40k won't work on current engine and in current tw format of large boxy formations. And I don't trust them with developing new engine that will work well with modern-ish combat.
It isn't total war warhammer, where all they had to do was to code flying units and introduce magic system that spawn explosions and effects and still it feels like downgrade when compared to older tw games(fuck you rome 2 and your engine)

>>718521223
nobody wants firstborn though?

>>718523216
sorry the only response I'm hearing from you is gw dick sucking

>>718521948
While I do think it'll be 40kTW don't count your chickens before they've hatched. They did say fantasy and history. We could be cursed with age of sigmar total war, we could get LOTR Total war, we could get someething else.

>>718513482
The mobashit wasn't even a major issue, the game was going three different directions and none of them came together coherently. The single worst change was using fucking Empire at War style cover circles, that's even more primitive than DoW1 cover paint.

>>718523125
That or why it has a sterile shitty UI that looks like it was made out of apple store assets or why it has skinny dow3 marines (we know why, they are just flipping assets) or why squads size is so small.
I'm optimistic about what they say on the steam page, but immensely unoptimistic about what they have shown in the trailer and having tried out iron harvest I'm already expecting poor pathing and input lag.

>>718501253
people who post yotsuba are all good people so they deserve the best of the best
your wish has been granted

>>718511762
Look if you want to get technical, the admech are not even fully part of the imperium. They're technically thier own entity. And the Astartes are thier own branch of power within the imperium too. So neither answers to the other at all. So, while fighting between them wouldn't be allowed to spiral out into a multi system conflict, a single chapter somewhere coming into conflict with an admech fleet over any number of reasons is definitely possible. The 40k universe is gigantic. But I am interested to see what reason they contrive for it to get to that point. And I get that they probably wanted to try and do something different from the previous games on release but thematically and gameplay wise, the eldar or tau would have probably made more sense as the fourth faction with a ranged focus.

>Cyrus and the DoW2 music parts were the only good things in the trailer
DoW 2 trailer remains unbeaten
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KojB4Q4AoKM

>>718523991
Dread still goes hard.

Why every map in the screenshots and trailer looks super-boxed in? No wide open spaces to be seen.

It makes me legitimately sad that AdMech got shoved in this to satisfy GW's retarded as fuck idea that they should be the rivals to Necrons. My excitement has already imploded.
Where's the Eldar? Where's Chaos?

Why every map in the screenshots and trailer looks super-boxed in? No wide open spaces to be seen.

>>718521586
>nu slop
Unlike the old cyber boars ?

>>718523098
>Thats mechanicum for HH, literally has nothing to do with the admech for 40k. There is no cross pollination of rules or models.
GW doesnt care and neither does its customers.

The four horsemen of the apocalypse...
Primaris, Nucrons, Sniggers and the shit 40k admech gets instead of the 30k kino

>>718518734
Pure Youtube quaternary bullshit opinion, enjoy your little movies.

>>718524214
Which of these Mortal Kombat characters aligns with which Dawn of War 4 faction, anon

What made everyone hate dow3 so much? I've never came to play it.

>>718524406
Man why does it look so cramped and like clash of clans or something

>>718524451
Ah so you really have literally no idea what the fuck you're talking about, good.

>>718501060 (OP)
>>718501253
>>718501430
>>718504460
If the game is a mix of DoW1 and 2 it might be one of the greatest rts games of all time.

>>718524406
>>718524508
All of the vehicles look bigger than land-raiders scaled next to the infantry.

>>718501060 (OP)
>looks more like DoW2 rather than DoW3, so should be better than 3
>look up the devs
>krauts responsible for Iron Harvest
My expectations are null. After all these years, the best that a DoW game could hope to be is just a synthesis of the best elements of 1 and 2, without needing anything beyond that: take 2's visuals, audio, artstyle, mechanics and physics with 1's gameplay and its scale, but looks like we're never ever going to get even that.
Also, the nostalgia bait is palpable
>soundtrack, Spike Spiegel and quotes reused from the previous games
>visuals trying to imitate 2's, but still off, even more so in motion

>>718524268
>Where's the Eldar? Where's Chaos?
It's funny how people have been bitching about years about how Chaos appears at the last second and steals the spotlight but now that we might have one of the few games without Chaos people are bitching about it lmao

>>718501060 (OP)
At least it's not chaos

>>718523216
You say that, yet he is correct. You gay bitch. Quaff the sludge, consumer.

Trying to imagine (actually *imagine*) playing current 40k, lmao.

>Oops, all Primaris
fuck this i'm going back to DoW2

>>718524715
I'm fine with Chaos not being in, but going as far as putting AdMech in over them is just stupid.

>>718523098
they havent even released a combo box in 6 years. why are you arguing about this when you arent even paying attention?

>>718518036
The expansion will add tzeentch and eldar

>>718524406
there's a nonzero chance that the game is soft grid based
this is the iron harvest devs after all

>>718524715
desu all the evil factions are gay and shitty. chaos, tyranids, nucrons, eldar (yes, eldar are evil; yes, both of them). well, playing *as* them is cool, but as antagonists they're gay.

>>718523112
>thing is un-serious
>thing is un-serious and also incredibly stupid corporate slop
...
>"lol what's the difference?!?!"

>>718518036
in that order: chaosniggers are going to be added ASAP, eldar too, maybe not at an earliest convenience, imperial guard, then the 'nids for something different, maybe, MAYBE tau, eventually, sisters of battle/dark eldar never ever, or as a half-assed variance of the previously released armies, more or less same for the rest

It's surprising the amount of people with intense reactions without looking at the images for more than a half second. You can clearly see
>base building
>largest army sizes in the games (vanilla) history
>cover and veterancy
>capturing resource points
>non lane-based maps
In all the screenshots, I'm guessing more /v/fag 40k """fans""" are just brown retards

>>718522965
>the devs of this will totally save our flag game
kek I tried this out and got bored after the 1st mission

>>718525336
Y-you forgot about someone

Since this is the dark crusade planet hopefully that means each faction from that game might make it in. But lets not get ahead of ourselves the game will likely be shit

>>718525365
I'm worried about how many different units each faction is getting because the necrons only went up to doomstalkers and triarch stalkers, no arks or monoliths let alone tesseract vaults or the silent king or c'tan shards

>>718524712
I'll be satisfied if it's clearly better than 3 and they deliver on their promises like bringing back and upgrading sync kills.

>>718525647
Yeah that is curious, but all the screenshots we see armies below 1/3 popcap, good chance those will be late game units they want to unveil closer to release? That's my cope at least

>>718525336
>High Priority
Chaos (Naturally)
Nids (10E starter faction)
>Middle Priority
Imperial Guard
Sisters of Battle
Leagues of Votann (New army, GW needs to advertise them)
>Low Priority
Genestealer Cults (Minor faction, could pop up as a surprise though)
Tau (Background faction, not much to do with them narratively that's good)
Eldar (Nobody gives a fuck about them, they're NPCs present to help the Imperium sometimes)
>Dark Eldar (Never happening)
>Non-Inclusions
Imperial/Chaos Knights (Rolled into other factions, AdMech are already getting at least one)
Custodes (Not their kind of game)
Imperial Agents (See; Custodes)

>>718525731
The steam description says they brought back sync kills

>>718525647
Flayer and reaper warriors will count as different units and you will get 3 different flavors of immortals
Enjoy

>>718525647
>no arks or monoliths
Monoliths are in, they cover art has them.
AdMech are also getting Knight Castellans/Valiants.

>>718525365
If you can't instantly intuit from the clear mobile game genetics and soulless art design from looking at these images for 1 second and instantly intuiting the game being bad as a result, you are lower iq than me.

Company of Heroes and its consequences have been a disaster for the RTS genre.

My expectations are in the dumpster but maybe it will be good, that would be nice

>>718525971
And the Knight, as shown in a screenshot.

>>718516875
would be kino
GW let us use more minis for our ec armies fucking PLEASE

>>718525365
i hope you are right xoxo

>>718526057
>its 2025 and people still want to micro workers

>>718526007
>I-I'm not low IQ because I can't see what's right in front of me
brown secondary post, monkey reaction brain

>>718524451
>GW doesnt care
They do, that's why they have 100% diferent units that aren't comparable and each play with diferent ruleset.
30k Mechanicum troops are either lobotomised but not servitorised thralls with barely any augmentation that serve as meat shields or turbo cyborgs of death with jetpacks and heavy guns. Mech also have like 4 or 5 diferent robots.
While 40k AdMech have basic troops in form of skitarii, like elite imperial guard but better in every aspect because of extensive cybernetic modernisation And AdMech have single robot type that is way diferent from 30k ones.

>>718524541
neither did i, but i heard it played like assfaggots

>>718526548
I'm being serious, if you can't fire up dow1 and look at the models and see the artistic touches and adaptation to a different medium, versus this where they literally just pick a specific model from the unit to recreate one to one, you are a stupid dude.

>>718527283
>A space marine...INSIDE of a space marine

>>718525365
Keep screeching shill, we can clearly see:
>skinny marines ONLY ever seen in DoW3 meaning asset flip
>DoW3 graphics and general aesthetic
>low unit count per squad, unlike dow1
>shitty generic UI you see in literally every mobile/scam game
You weren't even born when DoW1 came out, you weren't even a fucking spermatozoa when the first edition of 40k came to be.

There is no Guards in DoW4 because Blood Ravens killed al the Guards on Kronus in Dark Crusade canon ending :)

>>718514479
Its just like Space Marine 2, if you actually scrutinize the model and the scale Tidus is already a Primaris Marine at the start of the game. For whatever reason GW has a rule that you can only portray Primaris marines, even if the plot point you have is a first born marine becoming one.

>>718527356
I see about 10 models per squad, and 16 squads if less than a third of pop cap, this'll be a big game. Rest of your sperging is schizo babble, secondary

Units blend in too much. This is 40k. Units should pop in the fancy colors you paint them in.
You know - like they did in the two good games of the franchise.

Doesn't help that the special effects of everything are overbearing for no reason. Not every single ork shooter firing needs to perpetually have muzzle flashes like a flamer going off. Not every lightning weapon by the mechanicus needs to be blindingly bright on every shot. Not every tank round needs to produce smoke and dust on impact. Save that stuff for active abilities and special weapon upgrades that actually have an impact. Pretty sure readability will be a real issue the way this looks right now.

In terms of animations, I'm glad sync kills came back. But standard movement and shooting animations look about as cartoony as in DOW3 and I fucking hate it. Everything is just slightly overanimated. Ork boys running are all synchronized and they all sway from side to side with every step. People firing basic guns seem to jiggle for no reason. Hell, I don't mind models having animations while shooting, looking around, yelling, stuff like that. But this is just everyone jiggling with the recoil of every bullet. It just looks goofy. The only DOW that did animations like this was 3 and I am perfectly down to earth when I'm saying they should take no inspiration from anything that 3 did.

>>718526149
I think it looks alright but they need to make the colors pop a little more.

>>718511969
Played all campagins and even 1vs1.
It was okay, but the design was
>too hero focused
>too much infantry spam heavy (ironic for a mech game)
You spend first 5 minutes spamming medics and meleeing all combat units and capping all of the map.
Prime example why adding melee to CoH would be retarded.
Mechs looked great, but were just slow tanks.

Overall one of the examples why "lets make a multi plat RTS!" is something that should result in instant execution.

>half the anons itt say the game is too cartoony
>other half say the game is too desaturated
kek

>>718517018
>Hairgel comes back
>he's wearing the ultra golden Custodes armor he was gifted in DoW2

>>718527727
not a contradiction.

>>718519397
>davinci was right, he was just 40500 years ahead of his time

>>718518737
it's funded by the german government because they want to kick the warmachine into action for eternal war with russia and israels enemies

>>718524406
thats how a lot of maps are in dow 1

All I want is Dark Eldar and Sororitas

>>718514937
Yes rightfully so. I have like 2000 hours in the first two games each. I played the multiplayer beta for DOW3 and never even bought it. It was just all wrong.

I've never played DOW2 is it good/worth checking out?

>>718528017
worlds biggest soulstorm fan here

Day 0

>Anons still didn't notice that all we did is make DoW3 have different shading and camera angle.
>Just as expected, most of them did not even remember why DoW3 was bad.

>My cog boys get to be a faction in an RTS
Fucking finally, I really like this and I hope that they end up adding all of the other factions.

>>718528487
u might like it but dont expect an rts
campaign is diablo with 4 characters or something close to spellforce
multi is microing 4 squads with no other strategy

>>718501060 (OP)
Good rivals for necrons

>>718501060 (OP)
>iron harvest devs

Those losers abandoned their own indie game project and people expect them to make a good Dawn of War game?

Roflmao

>>718528487
Obviously
Its better than DoW1 even, but DoW1 has hardcore nostalgia protecting it.

>>718528487
I love the campaigns
skirmish are different than dow1; I didn't care much about them, but it's obviously a matter of tastes

>>718528629
>multi is microing 4 squads with no other strategy
>never played 1vs1 or against dumb bots

>>718528510
I have 21 minutes played on Soulstorm lol

>>718525852
Koronus was literally a Tau planet

>>718528803
>>never played 1vs1 or against dumb bots
no these also are entirely about microing 4 squads. thats how the game works.

>>718524541
>>718527159
Played open beta. Was moba trying to be rts and almost every aspect was bad. Army painter was nice.
1 You had base building but it sucked because you couldn't build/move your hq building, also couldn't build outside base zone.
2 units were based around 3 predetermined elites, as in you had your basic units like tactical marines etc, but they were worthless because summonable elites mowed them down with single click, like angelos and gorgutz had 1 click ability that deleted every single infantry unit around them. This is before we got into more elite stuff like terminators or knights that had even more deleting power.
3 game mode, only game mode at launch was, league of legends, where you had to destroy shield egenrator, then turret(that did actuall damage) and then nexus. Each side started with 2 generators, 2 turrets on each side of base zone and 1 nexus building. They added anihillation mode months after launch.
3 overall systems were dumbed down, like covers instead of coh based cover system from dow2 or even 2004 dow1 cover system with zones considered cover that gave buffs and zones considered open area that gave nerfs instead we got worse verion of cover system from 1 with fixed cover places that also were capturable field generators, that then would be destroyed by enemy and would no longer play any role in game, also there were stealth zones, meaning that was black(literally it was black rectangle) where you could hide your units(inlcuding knight lol) and enemy couldn't see you(you couldn't shoot) and you could have units from both sides hidden there unaware of eachother(this one I might misremembering but it sucked either way).
4 It looked bad, everything was plastic.
Overall game was dogshit.
For bonus point it started with only 3 factions instead of usuall 4.

>>718528874
You only played singleplayer
If you did, you would know that 7+ squads is a standard battle.

>>718524541
part dow2 players upset its not dow 2
part dow 1 players upset its not dow 1
large part being a directionless piece of shit

>>718528860
Key word being
>was
Tau are irrelevant

>>718529065
oh shit! 7 squads... thats huge. how do u even micro that insane amount of units

Wonder if we'll get knights again.
I'd like a the game to get knights and actually get a good community behind it, since I'll never get my knights mecha game.

All they really need to do is bring back the last stand mode and that'll hook people, they can make the actual versus multiplayer unapproachable and tryhard and it won't matter as long as they do that
T. Enjoyed 1v1 in DoW2

>>718529289
I spotted a knight with some skitarii so they're probably the ad mech super heavy.

>>718529350
>All they really need to do is bring back the last stand mode and that'll hook people
They apready confirmed it on the steam page, along woth customizable CPU games, 1v1, 2v3, and 3v3

>>718529214
Shut the fuck up retard, you got schooled.
You never played anything but SP like every retard hating on DoW2.
Go back to Attack+Move boxing vs bots your precious 15 squads and babysitting them so the pathfinding fucks up.

>>718518737
Oh so it will have German audio again like DOW1 and DO-
>steam page already disconfirms it
You cheap ass motherfuckers. Bad omen. Only 3 didn't have German so far. And its English VAs sucked ass too.

>>718529445
>last stand mode
The real reason Dow2 tards like Dow2

>>718529445
>3v3

>>718501060 (OP)
Because people love skittles because they are adorable.

>>718529496
as opposed to... attack+moving with my 4(sorry, 4+3) squads?

heh we mekankums now chrome boy

>>718529289
Good news; >>718526149

>>718529649
>boy
NIGGA, YOU MISGENDERED HER

>>718529496
its a real shame he missed out on pressing the retreat button

>>718529496
Can DoW 1 even have 15 squads? I remember most games ending in like 10 minutes or less

>>718530114
u might be noob

>>718530114
Nobody here actually played 1vs1, only modded comp stomps so yea.

>>718530114
Technically yes, since there's a few squads with a pop cost of 1 and you can get to a total of 20 infantry pop (some factions having special conditions to exceed this), but most normal infantry squads are 2 or 3 cost so around 10 squads is what you would end up with normally.

>>718530257
>I didnt do it, therefore no one else did

did dow1 have the retreat button? I remember it being literally the most braindead retarded shit in 2, like something you would expect from a console game.

>>718526624
>gw doesnt care about the difference between 30k and 40k mechanicum because marketing go woosh, so if they come out with stuff for 30k it will boost 40k stuff.
>retarded sperg: "NOOOOOO da rules and art are different"

>>718530257
You really missed out if you never played DoW1 PvP. One of the best experiences I ever had in RTS.
>>718530651
No, they brought that in from CoH.

>no nids
ITS THE SECOND MOST POPULAR FACTION WHY ARE THERE LITERALLY ONLY 2 GAMES YOU CAN PLAY AS THEM WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING

>>718530114
with orks for sure

>>718530752
please understand, our technology simply cant handle them

>>718530595
>Rushes Necron Lord and keeps you in base with Wraiths
Sure

I'll buy it if necrons have a proper campaign of their own

No half assed each faction is their own "chapter" in an overarching story bullshit

>>718530882
>guy who sucks at games complains about """rushing"""
tale as old as time, try scouting

I wonder how much complaining will happen if the Tau gets added if the game gets an expansion pack

>>718530705
I don't even understand why it exists. every rts has a retreat function, it's called move your fucking units away. a special button that makes your units automatically run away and gives them a huge defense increase is something from a mobile game.

>>718530651
>braindead
>I do not understand the purpose so its braindead to me
>would expect from a console game
What console game does this alone?

>>718530752
I hope theyre never added. Boring shit faction and they've been in too many games

https://exhentai.org/g/1313472/908a40829b/
https://exhentai.org/g/1313472/908a40829b/
https://exhentai.org/g/1313472/908a40829b/

>>718528487
The campaign is pretty neat, even if it has super uneven difficulty and drags in the second half. Feels kind of like playing Commandos or something. It's all about microing and positioning of your four main squads with RPG style upgrades in between missions. I never played beyond the first level of Chaos Rising, but it looks like it expanded the RPG stuff even further for weirder shenanigans.

>>718531027
NTA but as a DoW2 pvp player, this is how the entire thread feels for me

>>718531338
DoW2 PVP sucked tho

>>718530667
Anon there is no rules for 30k stuff in 40k and vice versa. 30k and 40k stuff looks completly diferent. They are trying to keep is as diferent as possible, despite both being cyborg religious cult.
GW is going hard into preventing system mixing, this is also why daemons of chaos that were made for both whf and 40k got fucked hard.
This is why GW won't give you 30k units in Dow4, they consider Adeptus Mechanicus and Mechanicum completly diferent product lines.

>>718531153
Not trying to defend it because I hate it as well, but I think their reasoning in CoH was that it was supposed to be a conscious choice between either manually retreating your units, in which case they were still controllable but more prone to damage, or forcing them into a mindless rout into your rear sector with the retreat button. Why they thought implementing something like this actually held any depth is beyond me.

>>718531027
>>718531338
Everything seems like a rush when you're so slow

>>718530882
Kek you must have been trash, if you think that's in any way scary.

>>718530651
It was added into Dow 2 from Company of Heroes, Dow 2 was just coh with 40k paint just dumbed down and with less base building.
Retreat option was kinda neat because it allowed to save your expirienced squad when bad decisions were made or you were overwhelmed.

>>718501060 (OP)
Is that Gorgutz as the Ork leader again?

>>718531319
>never played beyond the first level of Chaos Rising, but it looks like it expanded the RPG stuff even further for weirder shenanigans
You should play it, corruption mechanic was peak. You could fully drink chaos cool aid and gain chaotic superpowers.

>>718531492
>they consider Adeptus Mechanicus and Mechanicum completly diferent product lines.
They only do this because the departments are basically pitted against one another, they aren't allowed to work together on anything. You used to be able to use a bunch of 30k Mechanicum stuff in 40k but they've since curtailed it along with stuff from other factions.

>>718531492
>explain to retarded sperg that this is a marketing thing
>sperg: REEEE NO THE RULES ARE SEPARATE THE SKY IS BLUE THE GRASS IS GREEN REEEE
shut the fuck up you stupid nigger.
GW released mechanicus shit on tabletop, so they also put it in the upcoming game, because to their corporate and marketing people thats the same fucking shit.
what the fuck is wrong with you?

>>718531158
there are phone games that have that mechanic

>>718524406
Why are the control points on the minimap yelling at my eyes. I just want to know how many enemy units are running around.

>>718532218
Current phones play CoD
Also Clash of Clans has base building, so DoW was always a non-PC casual mess

>>718531896
>You used to be able to use a bunch of 30k Mechanicum stuff in 40k
That's the neat part, you never could. Only unit that was usable, secutarii was just upgrade pack to skitarii.
Rest 30k mechanicum units never got proper 40k rules. Only time when crossplay was possible was when both system shared 7th ed ruleset, but that was almost decade ago, before 8th ed.
>>718531905
>GW released mechanicus shit on tabletop
Anon Mechanicus only got single model this entire edition.
Mechanicum is diferent army from diferent system with diferent vibe and diferent aesthetics.
It's like saying that DoW got orks because Age of Sigmar/ToW got orruks/orcs release and it works as marketing.

>>718531905
Not him but you are retarded
Do you really think that GW forced the devs to put the 40k Mechanicus in the game because they want to shill their 30k models who are completely incompatible with 40k and have a completely different aesthetic? Literally not a single 30k model has appear in the trailer

>>718523730
The cogboys became part of the Imperium under the Emperor when they became the Adeptus Mechanicus rather than the Mechanicum, but yeah, de facto they're still basically their own mini empire within the greater whole because it's amazing what you can get away with when you have a monopoly on making the big guns. As for reasons for fighting, the mechanicus would be very interested in all the Gifts the Blood Ravens have collected over the years, and it's not beyond the more callous and ambitious Magi to go after a weakened Marine chapter if they think they can get away with it

>>718531153
DoW 2 in general feels like they were testing out the mobile game waters.

>>718525647
Milk and cookie youtuber says he had some access to the devs and the game and he says there are 110 units in the game, which actually gives me the opposite concern.
I worry the factions will have their entire fucking Codex and the game will just be completely unbalancable with dozens of worse than useless noobtrap units and a few OP bullshit units that just insta win anything.

>New DOW announced
>everybody with most retarded opinions about what was good/bad about DoW1&2 come out
What a cursed fanbase
This is how DoW3 was focus tested into schizophrenic mess

>>718532572
Don't forget about the assault drill and a couple of knights, not that knights are really a part of the army anymore. Also a lot of the 40k range meshes well with 30k.

>>718513482
Some mods make fix Dow3 and make it a good game.

>>718533250
>and he says there are 110 units in the game
Well if you take out the 10 Commanders that's 100 across four factions.
We know with certainty that there's
>Intercessors
>Assault Intercessors
>Eradicators
>Bladeguard Veterans
>Redemptor Dreads
>Invictor Warsuits
>Gladiator
>Repulsor (Executioner?)
>Warriors
>Skorpekh Destroyers
>Triarch Praetorians
>Canoptekh Doomstalker
>Triarch Stalker
>Monolith
>Skitarii Rangers
>Kataphron Breachers/Destroyers
>Electro-Priests
>Onager Dunecrawler
>Knight Castellan/Valiant
>Boyz
>Meganobz
>Deff Dread
>Beastsnaggas
>Battlewagon
So we can kinda fill from there.

>>718533250
Maybe it'll be like wc3 with campaign only units or some shit like that.

>>718526057
Fuck off, RTS would be so much better if CoH had actually spawned any clones. Unfortunately, in reality, it's all C&C and Stracraft clones.

>>718530510
the main thing is in the first game had separate pop cap for infantry and tanks. You could have 10~ squads and then up to like like 8~10 vehicles depending on what faction you were.
In DoW2 tanks and men use the same pop-cap.

>>718531838
yes

>>718534216
I thought that was a lot more than 24.
Anyways; for Marines (starting 8/25), we can see
>Heavy Intercessors
>Jump Pack Assault Intercessors
>Hellblasters
>Sternguard Veterans
>Infernus Marines
>Terminators
>Impulsor
>Gladiator variants (+2, Valiant/Reaper/Lancer)
>Repulsor Executioner
>Ballistus Dread
>Brutalus Dread
>Infiltrators
>Incursors
>Reivers
>Eliminators
>Inceptors
Holy fuck I hate Primaris names.

>>718518734
I can't wait for space marine shitters to complain about their definite armored manchildren being unable to fight 100 to 1 against every faction in this game. Recently i've already seen space marine newfags complain about how the bluhd rahvens drop off like flies in the Dow 1 and 2 intros

I went back to verify if any of this was actually asset flips, and fuck no it isn't. I haven't played since the open beta, so I forgot just how awful 3 looks. The models and animations are completely different than what's in this trailer. Granted the stuff in the trailer doesn't look (or sound) good, but it's far better than 3. Units in 3 walk like they all wear moonshoes and shoot like a grandma with a jackhammer. The only think that looks worse in this are those slugga projectiles, they look like fucking plastic yellow nerf balls. In 3 they are at least a fast tracer with smoke trails.

>sync kills are back
Nice.

>>718534216
Remember that weapon variants can be considered new units.
Like total war does that with their units, this is why you have chaos warriors(shield and axe) chaos warriors great waepons and chaos warriors halberds, or spearmen and spearmens(shields).
It's quite easy to bloat unit count if you treat weapon variants as diferent unit.

>>718534798
Continuing on to Necrons, who start 6/25;
>Immortals
>Deathmarks
>Lychguard
>Flayed Ones
>Ophydian Destroyers
>Lokhust Destroyers
>Lokhust Heavy Destroyer(s)
>Ghost Ark
>Doomsday Ark
>Canoptekh Wraith
>Caniptekh Reanimator
>Scarabs
>Tomb Blades
>Doom Scythe
>Annihilation Barge
>Command Barge
>Shard of the Void Dragon
>Shard of the Nightbringer
>Transendent C'tan

>>718518425
>Muh nu shit doomposting while GW posts record profits and company growth
You don't have to like it but sharing your opinion on top of it all just makes you look dumber

Warhammer 40k is gay shit now.

>>718531524
i can forgive it in CoH because they had suppression which made manually retreating units near impossible and is loosely based on WW2 units and concepts, so a full scale retreated giving up the area like that could kind of make sense.
Maps in CoH were also pretty big so a full retreat of units often did completely concede ground as it would take too long to move your units back into position after doing so. There was a trade off; keep units alive for sacrificing territory and it was stupid hard to take lost territory back in CoH 1.

A one click full retreat button in DoW2 makes no sense lore wise as most factions often preach death over retreat, especially imperium forces and things like orkz and 'nids quite honestly don't care about retreating.
Mechanically the maps are small too so retreating doesn't even feel punishing because your units end up back on the front in no time at all so that's not really a valid reason either and it was much easier to push around and take area in comparison to CoH.

basically they took a feature that worked in CoH due to the setting and map size and then gutted it and put it on smaller maps.

>>718535092
Yeah, I'm wondering if each unit (especially for Marines) will have 'upgrades' into new units.
>>718535129
AdMech now, starting at 7/25 if we're generous
>Sicarian Infiltrators
>Sicarian Ruststalkers
>Skitarii Vanguard
>Kastelan Robot(s)
>Skorpius Dunerider
>Skorpius Disintegrator
>Alternate Electro-Priests (There's two versions)
>Sydonian Dragoon
>Ironstrider Ballistarius
>Pteraxii Sterylizors
>Pteraxii Skystalkers
>Serberys Raiders
>Serberys Sulphurhounds
>Archaeopter Stratoraptor
>Archaeopter Fusilave
>Armiger (2 Variants)
>Knight Warden (& Alternate)
Overall probably the messiest faction. Fuck I'm glad I'm not an AdMech fan, that's basically their Codex minus the characters.

I forgot I bought and refunded DOW3
I’ll just keep playing Ultimate Apocalypse

>Dawn of War II: Announced 2008
>Global Financial Crisis: 2008
>Dawn of War IV: Announce 2025
>???

What's the lore explanation for first borns ceasing to exist?

>>718529894
>make tranny rep character a part of the faction that has race wide mental illness
Genuinely, what were they thinking? It's like making a plague marine story about HIV awareness

>>718535696
Rubicon good
Shortkings bad

>>718531524
CoH and DoW are tug o war kind of games where losing a squad early on goes into snowball, so CoH does really use the retreat button, because it's complex in several ways
DoW2 is such a basic game it didn't needed it and just made it more braindead than it was

>>718535696
Primaris are better and they know how to make them plus you can convert firstborn into Primaris anyway

It looks kinda slow and total war-y. Like micro isn't going to matter.

>>718535646
And finally, Orks, probably the oddest at just 5/25
>Gretchin
>Nobz
>Lootas
>Burna Boyz
>Stormboyz
>Tankbustaz
>Kill Kanz
>Squighog Boyz
>Flash Gitz
>Kommandoes
>Deffkoptas
>Trukk
>Gorkanaut
>Morkanaut
>Gunwagon
>Kill/Hunta Rig
>Shokkjump Dragsta
>Boomdakka Snazzwagon
>Megatrakk Scrapjet
>Looted Leman Russ
Orks may be the ones getting shafted considering all their various vehicle possibilities.
So generally speaking
>Marines have plenty of options
>Orks may cut a few behicles
>Necrons have little room
>AdMech aren't even making the cut on their own

>>718536145
The unit card layout doesn't help (nor is it tradable)
Seriously what is wrong with the StarCraft 2 system

>>718536258
HOLD THE PHONE I ZOGGED IT
>Gorkanaut confirmed as a building unit
>Mek Guns also in, allowing for Smasha Gun, Taktor Kannon, Kustom Mega-Kannon, or Bubblechucka

>>718536358
>Tradeable
I mean readable

>>718536358
all these new "RTS" are just fucking souless MOBA lite trash

>>718536358
Also the fact there are "reserves", which is a total war system.

Infact I bet my bollocks that this is going to be a total war/traditional rts hybrid, where direct unit control is more about giving general orders rather than gookspamming.

Cyrus being the commander seems weird but perhaps appropriate. Out of the 4 factions they could be the ones utilizing stealth the most. Maybe their units will be relatively strong but few in number, far more so than in previous games.

>>718536998
Anon Cyrus is only the commander in the prologue.

It's gonna get revealed that Blood Ravens are actually a successor chapter of the Alpha Legion won't it?

>>718537237
Alpha Legion is like third, maybe fourth on the list of likely founding Legion, anon.

>>718501430
its going to a f2p online hero shooter

>>718537237
Nah
It will turn out that every main chapter "shared" some of their geneseed that one night to create Blood Ravens

>>718534798
Primaris names are retarded because GW are greedyass kikes who most likely failed copyrighting tactical, assault, devastator, etc...

At least there's no lame and gay votann or tau in the game.

>>718532572
>>718532587
the problem here is you spergs are too autistic to comprehend the thinking of corporate and marketing.
to them mechanium and the adeptus mechanicus are the same funny machine people with cogs and red coloring on silver metal.

>>718535129
You're assuming loadouts don't count as different "units" like some games do which means

>Warriors with flayers
>Warriors with reapers
>Immortals with gauss
>Immortals with tesla
>Lokhusts with destructors
>Lokhusts with exterminators
>Triarch Stalker with heat ray
>Triarch Stalker with gauss
>Triarch Stalker with tesla

etc.

>>718537280
That makes them the most likely answer.
>>718537424
>posts his barely-concealed fetish

>>718527393
That's not true at all. Titus is wearing Mk8 Deathwatch armor and using a Deathwatch bolter + chainsword. He's even wearing a firstborn Mk8 helmet with the angry darth vader mouth.
He doesn't get any primaris design cues until he has his surgery.

>>718537531
I could honestly see it going that Marines have ugrades that turn the unit into a new unit, while the other factions have the traditional weapon upgrades

>>718524605
It really does look like a fake game ad. Probably because the trailer is nigger-rigged. It doesn't feel like the models are moving in a 3D plane at all, it's like they're entirely separate.

>>718501060 (OP)
1st DLC faction will be Votann
Then Sisters of Battle
Then Tau
And that's all

>>718527746
""""GIFTED""""

>GUYS THE GAME LOOKS LIKE A MOBILE GAME
>WHY DOES IT LOOK LIKE DOW1?

When are we getting the reveal that the Blood Ravens are a fake chapter made up by Trazyn to steal shit for him?

I haven't been too up to date of my warhammer 40k fluff, but why the fuck does everything look like fischerprice toys?

>>718535783
there are tranny characters in every faction

>>718518734
not in a lot of lore, not in tabletop

I tried. I genuinely, sincerely, earnestly tried. I tried to like the primaris designs but I just can't. They're shit. The helmets are shit. The power armor is shit. The bolters with fucking picatinny rails are shit. And above all, the lore is shit.

I shan't be touching this.

>>718537726
Just like battle sectors each will have a sub faction also all at the low low price of just 30 $ per faction oh and they will also make modding damn near impossible / impracticle so you WILL have to pay for their dog shit.

GW 40k fat sperg cock suckers will still pay for em and call it fair

>>718537458
Anon the same corporation is anal about mixing systems and now for years has been deleting rules for units that could be used both in 30k and 40k like marines tanks and dreadnoughts.
Also there was no big Mechanicum release lately, just starter set because new edition of Horus Heresy dropped, DoW 4 likely has been in development for years now, AdMech being starting faction have nothing to do with any 30k release.
Not to mention GW marketing team was always dogshit at it's job. But be prepared to see "Dawn of War 4" tab on GW webstore, they did it for total war warhammer, despite warhammer fantasy being deleted and only models left were some not yet canned leftovers.

>>718505104
>Iron harvest creators
Oh fuck my ass, no way its that real, the game is gonna be pure dogshit

>>718509437
>Stealth increases durability
What

The fact that GW has now gone out of their way to have AdMech replace Eldar as the rivals to Necrons is so bizarre and laughable to me that I can't take this game seriously because of it.

>>718539116
It's just something like "good survivability thanks to stealth", just phrased in a weird way. Or it actually does somehow literally affect his durability, who knows with those retards.

>>718539116
Stealth in 10E gives enemy units -1 to hit rolls with ranger attacks against the unit with Stealth.

>>718539125
Admech seems to be the modern rivals of the necrons since cogboys can't stop plundering their tombs, raping and desecrating necron bodies and looting their blackstones.

At least we won't see another jobber of khaine for a long time.

>>718539125
And all of this because one moderately successful indie game.

>>718537832
It was promised to him 3000 years ago.

>>718539116
Tabletop 10th edition stealth is just a debuff to enemy accuracy

>>718501060 (OP)
>primarishit
>nucrons
>steampunkredditmech
DOA

>>718539837
I can't wait for the bloodravens getting gifted more of the primarch's wargear like Dorn's chainsword, Vulkan's hammer or Jaghatai's jetbike.

>>718539125
You do know that the fucking void dragon which is the true omnissiah that the admech worships is a C'tan right

>>718538272
how many times do I have to talk about marketing before you fucking retards understand that your fucking essay about mixing the systems and lore
IS
NOT
RELEVANT

>>718539916
>t.eldar enthusiast

I think an age of empires 3/impossible creatures format could be good
>Select your loadouts
>Deploy a roster you curated
Losing a unit in dow1 and reequipping it kinda sucks

>>718539125
Eldar are a dead NPC faction that have done nothing but lose for over twenty years. They don't deserve to be in Dawn of War.

>>718540173
have they tried making them look less gay or maybe more fuckable

>>718527393
Cyrus was a 10th Company sergeant who usually wore Scout armor, and in the trailer he's wearing the Primarine Phobos armor meaning he got turned into a Vanguard Sergeant.
Kinda weird to have him as a hero unit while also killing him off meaning he's only going to stick around for a few missions at most.

>>718501253
bro it's 40k
It's going to be bad. What's wrong with you?

>>718540249
Literally yes. They made a big titty barefoot leader for the Eldar and she was an utter failure that only managed to spawn some porn of her getting railed by Guilliman.
GW literally made an Eldar waifu and they STILL weren't popular.

>>718540249
No Tyrion equivalent for their race already lowers their manly points. Eldrad is a lame and gay wizard, at least Teclis is better than him especially teaching the empire to access the winds of magic.

>>718540249
They've been literally doing that for the last 10 years or so and everyone hates it

>>718540249
They actually have been trying but GW isn't particularly good at that sort of thing, pic related

Well we got Cyrus and probably Jonah in the trailer, who else are you hoping to see return(outside of Avitus obviously).

>>718540618
visarch has a god-tier model but then he's a pathetic beta orbiter

>>718541013
Tarkus coming to finish the job
Martellus because of course he'd be there
Avitus as a Daemon Prince in the token Chaos DLC.

>>718541258
Anon, I...

>>718541013
I see no reason to bring back Cyrus and not have all of them return in some form along with Gabe.

>>718541013

The Redemptor Dreadnought could have been Thule.

>>718540037
Anon GW marketing will be units looking 1:1 like models and most likely Cyrius miniature because he's a poster boy of new Dow. Adeptus Mechanicus being in game have nothing to do with anything related to Mechanicum in marketing or otherwise.

>>718541440
>and most likely Cyrius miniature because he's a poster boy of new Dow
We literally see Cyrus die and be put on a death pyre, anon.
Also he's a generic Phobos Captain with a headswap.

>>718541440
>and most likely Cyrius miniature because he's a poster boy of new Dow.
100%, they did it for Titus, no way they'd miss the chance.

>>718501253
lmao it will be as good as DOW1 Defective edition
>>718521948
we have lost with recent remaster it was a humiliation ritual for it's fan now they will be pissing over it's grave with DOW3 part 2

>>718527283
Adrian Smith draws some weird stuff.

>>718541013

I know exactly what unit you could
Combine everyone into.

>>718541636
>Also he's a generic Phobos Captain with a headswap.
And titus is random MK X marine with chainsword and pistol, basic assault intercessor with headswap, and yet he got unique model.
It's low hanging fruit and GW will go for it.

>>718501253
Sorry, anon, but the trailer shows it to be a direct copy of Dawn of War 2.

>>718542001
Why even make a model release? Just have 5 named blood raven character heads on a single tiny upgrade sprue, easy $50.

>>718542001
>And titus is random MK X marine with chainsword and pistol, basic assault intercessor with headswap,
He's a Primaris Lieutenant, the most prolific model made by GW. There's over a dozen of them at this point.

>>718541440
you are wrong, and the reason is because you understand MODEL marketing and fuck all else.
cogmen sell good, make more stuff for cogmen.
put in game and release cogmen stuff on tabletop.
>"b-bu-bu-but boss do you mean 40k or 30k"
cogmen.
make more. you are paid to figure out where it will fit to put in more cogmen.
marketing shows more cogmen will make money.
MORE. COGMEN

>>718542107
Indeed

I shall not engage with /v/ about dow4 because general census seems to be extreme doom, I will wait until after release to see if any of you changed your mind about it

>>718542370
>I will wait until after release to see if any of you changed your mind about it
you mean after the wave of usual shilling and trolling pollutes the waters.

>>718542075
Then it will be fucking good.Get fucked DoW1 purists.

>>718541013
YOU HAVE CAPTAIN
DIOMEDES

>>718542440
dow2 fags really seem to hate any semblence of complexy or strategy. game already has last stand(your actual favorite rts) so whats the issue

>>718542370
that's right you should stick to reddit where you belong with the other shit eaters

>>718542427
What the fuck do you mean pollute the water? It's happening right fucking now, everyone writes it off as DoW 3 again or something worse despite not playing it pr watching extended gameplay, after all we got less than 30 seconds of gameplay footage, yet retards here already burying there game
Just wait and see, no preorders of course

>>718542082
GW would rather sell you one named character for 50 bucks and if its an easily tweakable intercessor body with a different sculpted head?

>>718542696
This is true which I've always thought of as weird because it'd be less effort to just give you the heads plus you'd have to buy the bodies separately and GW is huge jews

>>718540618
I think Eldred is pretty cool
Also his frail wizard body beating abbadon in melee is funny

>>718541013
>Tarkus
Was in the DoW3 prequel comic where he fought Orks and caved in a Farseer's face with his skull after denying the witch. Likely to return to play an advisor role due to his experience.
>Martellus
Also showed up in the comic, mostly as tech support. Don't think he'll return, at most being mentioned in dialogue.
>Thule
Fate unknown according to the DoW3 White Dwarf article about the BRs, might unfortunately be killed off to get rid of the old Dreadnought models. Since it's also dealing with Kronus, him conveniently dying means everyone else gets to find out what unfortunate truths he concealed after DC.
>Hairgel
If Gabe is the player character for the SM campaign, unlikely see him returning since he was a mute self-insert with no personality. Otherwise, might be the mute self-insert player character Gabe orders around.
>Thaddeus
Might return after his penitence crusade, becoming more mature, but ultimately he's not very important or popular.
>Diomedes
Might represent the Chaplain hero again, but won't have a large role. DoW3 actually released a Primarine Chaplain skin of him.

>>718542671
shilling and trolling, retard.
not doomposting
are you stupid or a shill begging for another chance for a company that has thrown most of its chances in the gutter?
40k has a LONG history of problems with getting good game releases.

>>718542592
Oooh, little manbaby is butthurt, boo fucking hoo
I'm tired of shit eaters like you because all you say is bad, nothing positive, bile vomit of shit, nothing creative, you turned this place into shithole and you will jump the ship the moment you get a better alternative

necrons are peak

>>718540618
Ah yes, Tyrion the cuck of Asuryan, eternally owned by Malekith in the end times, railing Allariele in Athel Loren

>>718542082
Because having full model will make consoomers more exited. It might be super easy to make, possibly there even is head that would work for kitbash, but GW releasing official model for dawn of war 4 sounds better for marketing purposes.
You want little timmy who played the game to be exited because he can buy little Cyrius and potentially buy entire marines army.
Treat it as entry drug, at worse it will be collectible item for whales.
It ain't rocket science they alredy did it for Titus from space marine 2.

>>718543031
Why do they always pick the ones that glow green instead of the ones that glow yellow or blue

I hope they add shitsodes just so I can kill them as another faction

>>718523216
Wait is there seriously someone on 4chan who unironically defends the state of 10e 40k? Have you played a single other wargame in your life?

>>718521948
>Maybe Creative Assembly will save us with Total War 40K.
>Maybe Sauron will save us from Sarumon
Nigger stfu I hope they both die

>>718543384
The Bloody Magpies will appreciate more sets of esteemed golden power armor being gifted to them.

>>718522497
For me, it's the desolatlors
They are so retarded I love them

>>718524541
Memes and retarded russians asshurt about CoH 2 depicting soviets as subhumans. The big complaint was that "it plays like a moba" but DoW 2 had literally moba heroes in it and no one complained.

I'm going to enjoy this in a schadenfreude kind of way. I think that there are so many "40k fans" who only played dawn of war a decade ago and only remember "for the empra" and "blood for the blood god" memes. it's going to be funny seeing everyone's reactions when they learn how much gw has done to make everything gay and stupid since then.

>>718521956
>I'm tired of pattern recognition
Then boy do I have the website for you!
>>>/reddit/

>>718542942
>40k has a LONG history of problems with getting good game releases.
Yet I'm not falling for discord tranny astroturfing that 40k was always shit and that all games are bad and basically if you like 40k you are a fucking moron, etc.
If DoW IV turns out to be good you won't be able to discuss it here because by that time you would have already killed the interest to form healthy discussion, just a hate circlejerk about same points every single thread
>gw bad, gw woke, gw games bad, 40k is shit, 40k is reddit, 40k is normalfag hobby, dawn of war was always shit and overrated and dow 1/2 are still discussed here because you have muh nostalgia goggles, CoH was always a better game and RTS as a genre should remain dead and buried
GW is a bad company, yes
GW doesn't follow quality control with their game, yes
But for the love of god just say anything else about the series you used to love when you were younger and happier, talk about mods, talk about 40k fan content in general, mock GW and their stupidity, just shitpost for fun and not out of spite
Please

>>718541258
>he doesn't know

>>718543206
Because it's what people recognize, I hope DoW4 has army painted options that let you change it though

>>718543648
>it's going to be funny seeing everyone's reactions when they learn how much gw has done to make everything gay and stupid since then.
Anon, it's the DoW secondaries that bitch and moan about the state of 40k even though they get all their opinions from Twitter

I’m sorry but the gameplay graphics didn’t look that good.

>>718543206
>or blue

>>718524406
Honestly, when I first saw this on the presentation I went
>Oh fuck they made a mobile game
Something just doesn't look right.

>>718543646
>The big complaint was that "it plays like a moba" but DoW 2 had literally moba heroes in it and no one complained
Dow2 had moba heroes in narrative campaign, it wasn't problem because it was narrative about your squads, so you upgraded them and shit.
In skirmish you had single "moba hero" who was slightly better than Dow1 commander but still couldn't take multipme squads at once.
Dow 3 went full moba, each player had 3 special hero units, each of them could delete multiple enemy squads no problem, Angelos outside normal attacks had skill that deleted all infantry around him and second one where he acted like jump infantry and did a flip in terminator armour and while striking ground he also deleted like half of enemy squad.
Beside heroes being so above standard squads only playable mode at launch that was taken straight out LoL didn't help to beat the allegations.

>>718524541
>mishmash of DoW1 and DoW2 that satisfied nobody who only liked one or the other
>no multiplayer modes other than ASSFAGGOTS at launch
>heroes (Elites) are extremely overpowered compared to the previous games
>only 3 factions at launch, IG relegated to campaign NPCs again
>campaign's story was largely nonsensical and rehashed DoW's plot where Chaos was behind it again (as campaign NPCs in the final mission)
>ugly artstyle and cartoon animations, voice acting was much weaker than previous entries, not even bothering to reprise roles of recurring characters

>>718543206
It's just too iconic
Also GREEN IZ BEST

>>718543646
dow 2 sucked too

>>718521956
It looks bad. Only a dev working on the game or a jeet marketer for the company would get emotional over people saying so.

>>718541013
As long as there are no niggers i will be happy

>>718501060 (OP)
>nu40k
>primatishit
>nuCrons
>flanderized admech
>orks I guess

Dogshit game incoming.

>>718541258
SPESS MAHRINES
TODAY
WE ARE
IN SPESS

>wrong Blood Ravens chapter logo
>Cyrus wears gay Phobos armour
>gay Nu-Blood Ravens colour scheme instead of DOW1-2 style

>>718544439
Librarian Jonah...

>>718522965
It's sort of amazing that the board game is so much more fun that the video game version of this.

>>718521223
They literally just did that, like a few days ago.

Employees of King Arts Games are pro-censorship and cancel people out of their social environment, if they don't tow the leftist-wokeness line. Virtue Signaling on their Website, see picture.
I really hope people like that don't see a single cent from this project.

Black Tech Priest in the trailer feels also like a forced diversity hire.

Have you compared the Interface with the Iron Harvest Interface? This feels like a reskin from their last game.

The base building looks also pretty barebones. no FFA or 8 players, maximum is 3v3, also pretty disheartening.

Graphics look weird to me too. Also beginning the game with 4 factions again feels so lame after having so many factions in DoW1, which is still the best game in the series.

>>718544073
>In skirmish you had single "moba hero" who was slightly better than Dow1 commander but still couldn't take multipme squads at once.

Well duh, faggot. DoW 2 skirmish had a limit of like 8 squads. The heroes were still vastly more powerful than regular units and could easily take out a couple

>>718544562
Not too late to make up for it

>>718539116
You get hit less = you stay in the battle longer. It should've been worded like Stealth increases Ranged Defense.

>>718544664
And still fucked up.
Dunno how you fuck up upscalling and fixing 20 years old pathfinding but here we are.

>>718501060 (OP)
>>718501253
its going to be mid and you know it

Aight, I'm just gonna go back to playing DoW 1(not the demake) every once in a while until DoW 4 release, I cannot form any opinion on a RTS before trying it out myself
But there is one thing that is 100% certain - Necrons will be hella busted on release, DC levels of bullshit

>>718544726
But could he delete like 3 units with single click?
Remember that in dow 3 you had 3 such units with usually "delete X number of squads in second" aoe skill.

>>718501253
I want to believe.

Iron Harvest is a horrible RTS if it can be called that one.

However Relic is also dogshit now who were lucky they were decent a long time ago.

Their only real chance of not sucking is being picked up by any Microshit studio or Creative Assembly.

>>718542440
>i hate rts and im bronze in league despite playing 8 hours every day
yeh we know bro.

>>718527976
Lol, no they aren't. Dow1 maps are more like starcraft. Flat plains connected to higher open zones by ramps.

>>718545112
>he can't grasp that units in an RTS with 20 squads per side will be more fragile than in a game with 8 squads per side
Sorry, but you are too stupid for this conversation, anon.

>>718517018
>2
its doa

>>718545273
have you actually played the game? go boot up bloodshed alley

>>718545226
>Creative Assembly
Their recent track record even with total war games isn't assuring.
They somehow got fantasy setting with tabletop game made for total war, and yet they somehow fuck it up. Not to mention that their main cashcow warhammer 3 was mess for a long time and was only held together by ammount of content from previous warhammer titles. 3 kingdoms got killed, and pharaoh was a flop, not to mention hyenas disaster.
CA isn't competent in terms of rts development, they don't even have engine for game like dawn of war.

>>718544678
Interestingly enough, black tech priest doesn't bother me, in fact it amuses me because they are basically starcraft 1 workers on steroids
As for the woke shit, due to lack of funding it's already getting dialed down so hopefully there won't be much of it

>>718545226
It was a shitty CoH mod, at best. They didn't put any work into making their units actually fit the map design so you end up with mechs and vehicles that can't navigate any of it most of the time. I had so much hype for that game and ended up so disappointed by it. Sadly this game is going to be ass.

>>718543029
yeah you should jump back on the ship to reddit

>>718545081
Mid is still very good compared to the most abyssmal dogshit imaginable that was dow3

>>718521948
>to a pre-determined location
you stupid bitch

>>718545226
A 40k Total War game would be a lot more interesting to me than this version of DoW4, but I don't even think the Warhammer Total War games are good. In fact, Warhammer killed that franchise imo

>>718545585
What took you so long to reply?
Too busy shitposting on /tg/?

>>718545426
Anon I played dow 3, you don't get 20 squads and most elites weren't late game units but early game. Non elite units were made out of wet paper and had no staying power, elites just deleted everything in seconds.
Dow 3 sucked balls and died shortly after launch. Elites were part of reason why.

>>718501060 (OP)
I'm just looking forward to hearing more about Steven Wanovus

>>718521956
Contrarians are a staple of /v/ posting

>>718545734
no I'm busy watching kino and I'm only checking back in during intermissions to call you a stupid faggot that needs to go back

>>718524440
>nuslop unlike old giga kino
yes

>>718525971
Monolith could just be a campaign plot element.

>For the first time no Eldar
>Chaos still probably going to be the secret final boss some how
Also why are we going back to kronus lol

>>718545846
>kino
zoomzoom

>>718545759
>b-b-b-but anon I played dow 3, you don't get 20 squads...
I didn't bother reading the rest of your post. Hope you don't mind.

>>718545612
>the most abyssmal dogshit imaginable
but enough about dow2
dow3 simply existed
its difficult to feel any emotion of any kind about that game
its not bad it simply is
which is probably the worst thing you can say about anything.

>>718546107
I accept your concession now go back

DoW2 was fine. I had a decent campaign experience from it which is more than I can say for many RTS games post 2010.
It just didn't leave a lasting strong impression compared to DoW1. that said, gameplay wise, DoW2 did age better because holy fuck DoW1 feels so fucking janky to play now if you're used to CoH and it doesn't play well at all compared to other legacy RTS titles.

>>718543773
Spare me your schizophrenic fanfiction.
I aint reading that.

GW has a history of bad games because it is notoriously tightfisted with its contracts so few people are interested in trying to make a 40k game because they don't like the potential profit margins they will need to hit.

>DoW3
Gave us more Macha porn
>DoW4
No Macha, so no more Macha porn
Clearly 3 is superior to 4

>>718546030
>kronus
Because we will finally get the answer for the 20 years old question
>From which legion do Blood Ravens descend?

>>718519397
Jes Goodwin needs to fucking retire already.

>>718519765
They should just go whole hog and have Chaos Demons and Traitor guard fighting Tau, Votann, and Sisters of Battle.

>>718520417
>40k game
>not empire vs chaos
Only cool thing about it. Spiky marines are the single lamest thing about 40k and it's annoying how every other videogame is "Whoops, it was chaos all along!"

>>718546330
>GW has a history of bad games because it is notoriously tightfisted with its contract

Oh don't embarrass yourself.

>>718544440
It's over, how will the game be a success after failing to secure the tertiary fanbase?

>>718545995
Knights are in game, so necron equivalent also would be there.
Remember monolith was also in dow1 as unit.

>>718543850
Army painter is already confirmed

>>718546471
>Posts a game with less than 500 player peak

>>718546214
>parrot responce
as expected from a low IQ zoomgroid, kek

>>718501060 (OP)
The 4 Armies should be as followed:
Space Marines
AdepMechs
Imp Guards
Chaos (To keep unique models down)

This way we dont need to worry about any faggy aliens cluttering the game with needless bullshit and we can focus on what really matters.

>>718546030
>Also why are we going back to kronus
Nostaliga. If Cyrius and Dow2 soundtrack wasn't clue enough.
Every dow intro/trailer, even dow3 had bunch of nobodies doing fighting, dow 4 have most recognizable nostaliga bait character that isn't Angelos.

>>718546593
>MUH STEAMCHART!!!!!!!

>>718546593
Exactly, retard. That game was obviously never going to sell millions, so it destroys this fucking argument:
>GW has a history of bad games because it is notoriously tightfisted with its contracts so few people are interested in trying to make a 40k game because they don't like the potential profit margins they will need to hit

God you are dumb. Learn to be quiet, dude. You are not among intellectual peers and only shitting up the place with your low IQ.

>>718546404
>From which legion do Blood Ravens descend?
Gays Workslop will never answer that

>>718540559
Yvraine and the Ynnari were a dumb idea to begin with on all levels

>>718546710
>Chaos

>>718546593
>steamcharts player count determines whether game is good or not
Go back retarded reddittor

>>718546710
go back to hh

>>718546407
>it's annoying how every other videogame is "Whoops, it was chaos all along
Believe me, the same shit will happen in this game too

>>718546590
Can we change the necron glow though or is it stuck to green?

>>718546471
>>718546745
you have no idea what is being discussed...
got it.
next time just say you are a fucking retard and don't understand.

they want a big enough chunk of any revenue that it becomes hard to make a profitable game for them unless its REALLY fucking good or done REALLY fucking cheap.
you just posted REALLY fucking cheap.
congrats retard.

>>718546391
They'll just make the necron lord or techpriest a woman.

>>718546710
actually it should be tau(farsight enclaves), eldar, vs inquisition, black templars vs nids, death guard

>>718546992
The chronomancer is a woman

>>718504628
>>718524506
>>718525039
>>718539916
>>718544440
>Nucons
What's wrong with Necrons?

>>718547046
God, that would be hot.

>>718539125
they got tired of writing about eldar losing all the time. admech can actually go toe to toe with necrons and stand in direct opposition to their beliefs.
eldar and necrons beef is a footnote in lore that has never been covered or expanded on

>>718547060
Old necrons: Silent soulless robot slaves to the C'tan star gods

New necrons: Quirky squabbling old-timey nobles with super technology (the C'tan are their slaves)

See:

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Zahndrekh

This is a british don quijote who thinks everyone he fights is a rebel of his own race and says things like "jolly good pip pip old chap"

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Trazyn

This is a character written by someone who thought the blood ravens stealing everything meme was funny and decided to make a character whose gimmick is to try to steal everything

He has stolen custodes, grey wardens, and is trying to steal the emperor

He once sued another necron for damaging his collection and when they went to court the judge got mad when he saw that some of his collection was stolen ancestral heirlooms from the judge's clan

>40kucks shit up their own discussion because they are too retarded to recognise most obvious bait in existence
Feels good to be a fantasychad, our threads are always comfy

They are so fucking cool.

>>718547079
>>718539125
The eldar/necron thing barely exists now "oh the necrons beat the eldar's creators back in the day so the eldar are mad at them" while necrons don't give a shit about eldar

Meanwhile Admech is secretly a cult of an unchained shard of the void dragon and the C'tan are of course the real nemesis of the necrons so no shit admech vs necrons is a thing

>>718547060
Nothing. They're just mad because the youtuber told them they were bad
>>718547110
not reading that but you're taking the setting way to serious like a shitlib.

>>718547110
Nucrons are just spes tomb kangz minus Nagash and Settra. Oldcrons still exist within the lore and there's technically somewhere between with oldcron-nucron like the flayed ones are some weird virus-cult that draws power from reverse warp or something.

>>718547241

>>718546634

>>718547119
>our threads are always comfy
Dead like the setting

>>718547241
>the youtuber told them they were bad
no one told them that.
its a grognard thing, retard.

>>718547110
>reddit spacing
Go back

>>718547307

>>718547241

>>718547306
>its a grognard thing
Yeah so its a secondary thing like all grog opinions are.

>>718547302
Better dead than being a 40kuck tranny, lmao

>>718501253
It won't be good, you can see a woman right there on the splash art. GW is woke now and 40k sucks dick as a result.
Hell they can't fucking help themselves. Look here in pic related.

>>718546984
>I made up the thing about devs not wanting to make games
I accept your concession

>>718547203
too much floating bulshit!

>>718547203
oldcrons are cooler

>>718547508
wait until you see the primaris vehicles

I hope they dont kill my boy Cyrus, we already got Davian Thule as Dreadnought.

>>718547110
Zahndrekh is fully aware of his 'episodes' and plays into them to keep his court on their toes. He's confided to Oberyn about it.
Trazyn steals things because he wasn't a warrior or high noble before Biotransference, he was a historian, and after waking up several thousand years early he realized that if he didn't keep himself pre-occupied he'd go insane like the Destroyers, yet he didn't have the rank to be a full blown ruler, the knowledge to be a Cryptek, or the skill and mind of a proper warrior. So he kept doing what his job was before; cataloguing and history keeping. He knows full well that the Galleries of Solemnance are never going to see any visitors besides those he personally 'invites' to tour it, he's stealing things to keep himself sane.

>>718547534
>>>>>>>>>>>>>has to post artwork
now post the models. Not your models, because i know you have none.

>>718547238
in DoW itself I never really even saw the eldar and necron rivalry at all. Eldar in these games have always been this semi neutral force that tries to stop the other factions because they prophesize the coming of a bigger threat that other factions are too unaware of because of they're fighting for short term goals.

>>718535421
>while GW posts record profits and company growth
That's usually a BAD sign for the quality of a thing. It means rampant greed and unsustainable practices are at play.

lol

Retards arguing with other retards over most trivial shit is the best form of entertainment this board can provide
Please do continue to bicker in the next thread too

>>718547603
>Eldar in these games have always been this semi neutral force that tries to stop the other factions because they prophesize the coming of a bigger threat that other factions are too unaware of because of they're fighting for short term goals.
In all three DoW expansions that 'bigger threat' is the Necrons.

>>718542517
THOSE MOTHERFUCKERS BETTER RETURN WITH MOTHERFUCKING CAPTAIN DIOMEDES

>>718547665
He's a Chaplain now. He quite enjoys his job.

>>718546752
If it will translate in more plastic being sold they will greenlit it.

>>718547726
Even during the peak of the Blood Ravens' popularity they weren't given an army supplement much less an army book.

>>718501060 (OP)
>pr*maris
>those graphics
>random studio
>no chaos, guard or eldar in sight
Yeeeeep its gonna be another cash grab akin to remastered edition of first dawn of wars or space marine.
>>718519626
Based take, AAAAAAAA GEEDUBZ I SHALL TAKE YOUR METAL BAWXES FOR THAT INSULT!

>>718547661
I love how GW has such a small vocabulary of not just words but also storylines that they're fucking pulling this with necrons now

>Necrons are this semi neutral force that tries to stop the other factions because they prophesize the coming of a bigger threat that other factions are too unaware of because of they're fighting for short term goals.
And the threat is the tyranids

>>718547661
Only dark crusade I think? In winter assault it was chaos, and in soulstorm wasn't it dark eldar? In DoW2 it was first tyranids, the chaos, and in retribution it was about the traitor inside the blood raven chapter.

>>718501253
It plays exactly like the latest CoH, which nobody is playing right now. take a hint

>>718547582
i debased myself and oldcrons too much already by posting such low resolution pictures
i cant find high res pictures of oldcrons so i refuse to disrespect them like that
a man of your "character" might
but i shall not.

>>718546634
I accept your concession now go back

>>718547849
Winter Assault ends with Necrons popping out, and are the main threat Taldeer is there for.
Same for DC.
In SS Caerys is primarily there to stop the local Dynasty from rising.
Even in DoW2's Eldar campaign which is the canon one the group fights Kyras to get Taldeer's spirit stone back since it holds the locations of numerous tomb worlds that would threaten the Craftworlds.

>>718547865

>>718547307

>>718540302
Getting the old VA also. Yeah I believe the Primaris thing or those niggas are pretty wasteful with resources.

>>718546752
Not directly but they've said that Cawl had to use traitor Primarch's geneseed to create Primaris for "some chapters". Not everything needs to be said out loud, which is something GW need to be reminded of.

>>718547865
>secondary
>respect
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
KILL YOURSELF LYING NIGGER, YOU NEVER HAD ANY MODELS, NICE LARP THOUGH
AHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHA

>>718546752

Why do you guys want EVERYTHING to be explained in a fictional setting?

>>718547402
>"I don't like you said this thing so now you are making it up so I win"
oh, so its back to writing schizophrenic fanfiction again?

>>718547725
I take it Chaplain Diomedes with peak baller armor. Just inject that shit into my veins.

>>718547769
>popularity they weren't given an army supplement much less an army book
They had rules in 4th edition of marine codex. There was also index astartes article about them describing chapter in depth, second only to chapters that had their own codex like ultramarines, blood angels, dark andgels and space wolves.
There was also Angelos model when dow 3 released.

>>718501253
>Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment.

>>718548078
>keeping things vague and devoid of any common sense, like a psyker lenient sm chapter, is actually le good!
Go back and kill yourself

>>718547357
no its a "I really like this thing from older times and they changed it massively" thing
why are you being stupid about this?

Look this nigga drip.

>>718537237
It's been all but confirmed they are thousand sons though

>>718548291
Fuck you, Leandros
You don't deserve this drip

>>718548291
Based Leandros

>>718540559
maybe they should have made her an interesting eldar instead of a guilliman simp

Space Marine 2 should have been the Blood Ravens instead of the Smurfs

If they really want it to be the Smurfs the enemies should have been Word Bearers or Emperor's Children, even Iron Warriors or Death Guard would have been acceptable

So many posts here reek of marketing

>>718548401
>needing marketers when you have cultists who do it for free

Don't see Eldar big disappointment already.

>>718548391
>the enemies should have been Word Bearers or Emperor's Children, even Iron Warriors or Death Guard
Why not just make the chaos enemies black legion with support from the others? Then you can use every flavor for more variety in enemy design so it's not just rubric or rubric with a flamer for majors.

>>718548401
I do it for free

>>718548071
i never claimed i did
sir tard

>>718548401
Why do you hate marketing?

Reading this thread kinda feels like i'm back on /tg/
>>718547110
Stupid shit like this is why necrons are now really cool robots with retarded lore

>>718548391
I don't mind being smurfs but Chaos faction should be expanded in general. Those guys turning into space powder kills the mood, give me some fleshy fuckers to kill.

>>718548663
>no dawn of war 3
Be a good paypiggie

>>718548865
Fuck that game, it won't taint my library. I refunded back them

>>718548935
then*

>>718548078
>muh heckin mysterios

>>718548310
That's what the Alpha Legion wants you to think

>>718548935
Argument nr1
Your library will look weir with dow 1 dow 2 dow 4 but no dow 3. Terrible look for library shamefull display.
Argument nr 2
Dow 4 will most likely be just like dow 3.

>>718548401
>>718548663
zased non-DOW3 buyer

>>718549232
I will pay money to NOT have DoW 3, like how I literally paid more to NOT have Halo 4 (I bought the MC Collection games individually, so I can NOT choose Halo 4)

>>718547378
HOLY SHIT
A BARELY VISIBLE WOMAN?!?!?!?
Its so fucking over, how can we ever stop the woke menace? Like, what's going to be next? A military faction that only employs woman as soldiers?

>>718549232
I remember to this day when they announced DoW 3, me and my friend were turbo DoW 2 fiends at the time. We had this gut feeling of being shit. Now DoW 4 I feel like they are trying to fix the mess from the previous game, but yeah I can understand people being skeptical. Worse case scenario I will refund it also.