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Anonymous No.718584994 >>718585070 >>718586585 >>718586884 >>718587986 >>718588171 >>718588263 >>718588437 >>718588572 >>718589585 >>718590147 >>718591369 >>718591419 >>718593273 >>718593612 >>718596438 >>718598004 >>718600661 >>718603892
So where's Vol. 2?

Are they having trouble with MGS4 because of how many direct references there are to the PS3?
Anonymous No.718585070
>>718584994 (OP)
They're busy with Delta
Give them a bit
Anonymous No.718585189 >>718587145 >>718587580 >>718587791 >>718588058 >>718589132 >>718598732 >>718599486 >>718606607
Portable Ops is considered de-canon now, right?
Anonymous No.718586585 >>718587054 >>718587912 >>718590586 >>718590907 >>718593938 >>718596924
>>718584994 (OP)
>Are they having trouble with MGS4 because of how many direct references there are to the PS3?
From what I hear it's because of how the game was built it's really really hard porting it to PC or something I don't know the specifics.
Anonymous No.718586827 >>718586971 >>718588236
My ideal collection would be mgs1+mgs3+mgs5

Mgs has a curse where the even numbered games all suck
Anonymous No.718586884
>>718584994 (OP)
Holding off until next year most likely. They don’t want to cannibalize their own sales by releasing two MGS game on the same console at the same time.
Anonymous No.718586971 >>718601402
>>718586827
Hoping the next game is MGS4, MGRR, MGPW, and maybe throw the Acid games in as a bonus.
Anonymous No.718587054 >>718587520
>>718586585
Well then they optimized it kind of poorly because the game never struck me as a very tailored game for the PS3 hardware.
Anonymous No.718587145
>>718585189
some of it is still canon
Anonymous No.718587236 >>718588368 >>718588405 >>718590684
I can only hope Revengeance is in the package even though I doubt it will be
Anonymous No.718587520 >>718591259
>>718587054
It was actually designed for the 360 originally, but kojimbo went over budget with the cutscenes and sony bid for the game to get a desperately needed game onto their system. And they were unfortunately forced to take it. So now mgs4 is 720p and sub 30 fps, often dropping below 15 even.
Anonymous No.718587580
>>718585189
Kojima said the plot outline he wrote is canon. IE Big Boss goes to South America to shut down a rogue Fox Unit.
Anonymous No.718587791 >>718588041 >>718589030 >>718591774
>>718585189
Honestly all the big boss titles after Snake Eater can just be de-canonized and it would make the series 10x better.
Anonymous No.718587912 >>718588024 >>718588292 >>718593938 >>718596924
>>718586585
The PS3 just had really fucked architecture and everything made exclusively for it is a total mess to port over. It's not just MGS4 but a lot of games stuck in this shitty limbo
Anonymous No.718587986 >>718588068
>>718584994 (OP)
I think the bigger problem is all the licensing in 4 they don't want to renegotiate.
Anonymous No.718588024 >>718588134 >>718593938
>>718587912
I thought the problem was more frequently the other way where multiplats on PS3 were not the way to go if you had a choice.
Anonymous No.718588041 >>718591337 >>718593180
>>718587791
As much as I think V's plot was pretty half baked, I thought the way it ties into MG1 and 2 was pretty clever so I'd like if that stayed
But I could take or leave everything else.
Anonymous No.718588058
>>718585189
Kojima and Konami still consider it canon to this day.
Anonymous No.718588068 >>718588278 >>718588968 >>718589478
>>718587986
>Swap out licensed shit like the iPod for generic crap
>Use A.I voices to swap out references if don't want to hire OG VA's again.
SO HARD.
Anonymous No.718588134
>>718588024
That is also true because those same multi plats basically had to bend themselves into a pretzel to work on the PS3
The two issues were the same, basically making a game for the ps3 sucked ass unless you went all in on making it for the ps3 (which in turn makes the game a bitch to port anywhere else)
Anonymous No.718588171
>>718584994 (OP)
MG4 is a bitch to port because it was coded specifically for the PS3 hardware. They would have to remake the game.
Anonymous No.718588236 >>718588949
>>718586827
ok i agree that mgs3 is better than mgs2 but going as far to saying that mgs2 SUCKS? you're out of your mind
Anonymous No.718588263
>>718584994 (OP)
I hope we get metal gear rising on switch (a ps5/ps4 port would be nice too).
Anonymous No.718588278
>>718588068
>SO HARD
For Konami? An herculean task
Anonymous No.718588292 >>718589076
>>718587912
I could buy this as a reason God of War: Ascension never got a remaster even though it launched in the twilight of the PS3's time on the market (even though The Last of Us is in the same boat but did get a remaster).
Anonymous No.718588368 >>718602395
>>718587236
Anon it's regularly 5 dollars on PC.
Anonymous No.718588405
>>718587236
same
Anonymous No.718588437
>>718584994 (OP)
Is there any reason to play this pc version of 2 over the original pc version of 2 (with mods)?
Anonymous No.718588572 >>718590425 >>718590781 >>718591732
>>718584994 (OP)
MGS4 won't be on it.
It'll be
>Metal Gear Solid: Peace Walker HD Edition
>Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance
>Metal Gear Solid V: Ground Zeroes + The Phantom Pain
for the main games. This is because, of these titles, none are on Switch/Switch 2 and only one is on PS5/XSX.
For side titles
>Metal Gear Solid: Ghost Babel
>Metal Gear Ac!d 1 & 2
>Metal Gear Solid: Portable Ops
>(Potentially) The mobile titles
>(Potentially) The Document of MGS2
>(Potentially) Metal Gear Solid 3: Existence & Original Secret Theatre Videos
>(Probably) Deleted Episode 51 Bonus Disc
I don't see Twin Snakes getting ported either. I imagine that will be on NSO though.
Anonymous No.718588949 >>718591774 >>718607075
>>718588236
>bait and switch with the protag
>raiden is lame as fuck
>actually your gf is honey potting you lmao you loser virgin
>big shell has very samey environments
>big shell level design bad
>incest fetish plot with otacon was cringe
I could go on but the less said about the game the better.
Anonymous No.718588968 >>718591731
>>718588068
This is the same company who couldn't bother updating a fucking menu screen text.
Anonymous No.718589030
>>718587791
I agree. V can go fuck itself.
Anonymous No.718589076 >>718592207
>>718588292
God of war 3 remastered
Anonymous No.718589132
>>718585189
Peace Walker contradicts it too much for it to be otherwise.
Anonymous No.718589253
Mg1 > mgs3 > mgs5 > mgs2 > mgs4
Mgr isnt even metal gear its just a nier automata demo
Anonymous No.718589334 >>718589692 >>718589963 >>718590167 >>718590230 >>718590930
Anonymous No.718589478
>>718588068
>using AI for resources in a series with MGS2 and PW's themes
Would be laughably lacking in self-awareness enough to happen.
Anonymous No.718589585
>>718584994 (OP)
I'm absolutely sure the only reason it's taking too long it's because of the MGS4 port. PS3's architecture was a mess. Rememeber we only got an RDR port last year and I'm don't know how good it is.
On top of that it also has a lot of references to outside stuff, not only Sony products.
Anonymous No.718589692 >>718590050
>>718589334
Pretty reasonable ranking. Ghost Babel was so good.
I'd put The Phantom Pain in C tier.
Anonymous No.718589786 >>718589979
Konami had a 360 version that apparently ran really well. I think it's just licensing shit for 4
Anonymous No.718589963 >>718590478 >>718590818 >>718591376
>>718589334
never understood the hate for 4. It plays and looks great. had the best multiplayer to this date
Anonymous No.718589979 >>718590163
>>718589786
Hopefully the remaster is based on the 360 build and not the ps3 one, but the yellow jews at konami will choose the ps3 version because they hate the west that god damn much
Anonymous No.718590050
>>718589692
It's a shame it never had a spruced up port. The sprites and animations are stylish enough to withstand a TV, but you're still stuck with the awkward GBC controls.
Anonymous No.718590147
>>718584994 (OP)
Its just MGS4 requires actual work to port, unlike Vol 1 which was just adapting the MGS HD Collection, and even then they needed several patches.
Anonymous No.718590163
>>718589979
Can you really blame them
Anonymous No.718590167 >>718590292 >>718590317 >>718590397
>>718589334
>Portable OPs that low
Fuck you. It's better than most of the MGS games.
Anonymous No.718590230 >>718591376
>>718589334
MGSV is the only good one, the rest are all shitty movies.
Except MGR, which is also good.
Anonymous No.718590292
>>718590167
PO is junk. It has the worst level design in the series.
Anonymous No.718590317 >>718592087
>>718590167
>Peace Walker but you need to backtrack the entire level to recruit soldiers
Fuck no.
Anonymous No.718590397
>>718590167
Handheld >>> into the trash
Handhelds are meant for simple 2d games not 3d 3rd person kino.
Anonymous No.718590425 >>718590574
>>718588572
I strongly doubt we'll get Rising. It's already on PC and Xbox, it would also require Platinum involvement which isn't in a very good spot right now.
Anonymous No.718590478 >>718590580 >>718590647
>>718589963
It's barely a game.
Anonymous No.718590574 >>718590881
>>718590425
>It's already on PC and Xbox,
Pretty irrelevant considering the Xbox version is just the 360 release and the PS5 + Switch are infinitely more relevant platforms to Konami.
>it would also require Platinum involvement which isn't in a very good spot right now.
All Platinum is needed for is to hand over existing files that Konami owns if Konami didn't keep the source code on hand.
Anonymous No.718590580 >>718590753 >>718591337 >>718591506
>>718590478
people overestimate how many cutscenes there are in 4. it's more like 50% game, 50% cutscenes, which is still far more than 99% of games.
Anonymous No.718590586
>>718586585
I doubt it has anything to do with it being a PS3 game. They had the game running on 360, but didn't port it because they didn't want to deal with shipping multiple discs.
Anonymous No.718590647
>>718590478
Are you new to Kojima? Half his games are cutscenes
Anonymous No.718590684 >>718598198 >>718602395
>>718587236
Why are revengeance trannies so stupid?
Anonymous No.718590753 >>718590839
>>718590580
There's like 8 hours of cutscenes in there and only 4 of gameplay. The epilogue is an hour and a half by itself.
Anonymous No.718590781
>>718588572
While speaking to IGN in an interview, Konami producer Noriaki Okamura was asked if Metal Gear Solid 4 would ever come to modern consoles. This prompted Okamura to say that the studio is aware of the situation surrounding Metal Gear Solid 4.
>"Unfortunately, we can't really say too much at >the moment with Vol. 1 containing MGS 1-3 >dot dot dot… you can probably connect the >dots! Right now, we still are internally >concerned about what we should be doing for >the future of the series. So sorry, we can't >really reveal anything at the moment. But stay >tuned!"
source:https://www.gamespot.com/articles/konami-teases-that-metal-gear-solid-4-may-finally-come-to-modern-platforms/1100-6526173/

Though not explicitly stated, it is heavily implied that MGS4 will be in vol 2.
Anonymous No.718590818 >>718590961
>>718589963
>had the best multiplayer to this date
Yeah, in Japan where they actually had fun rooms. The western servers were just retards banning all the fun skills so they could run around headshotting with assault rifles all day.
Anonymous No.718590839
>>718590753
there is no fucking way that is true, there are way more than 4 hours of gameplay unless you're speedrunning.
Anonymous No.718590862 >>718591476
I actually softened to mgs4 over time, it's the best classic style mgs game to date with most refined mechanics of the camo-suit
yeah moviegame and blah blah (wasn't there some comparison that shows that in percentage there are no more cutscenes than gameplay if compared to mgs2 for instance, people just memoryholed this) but it's still kinda cool and has a lot of memorable moments
the
>Activate it
part alone gave birth to so many memes it's crazy
also the motioncap and the cutscenes themselves are state of art and even modern games are not yet at that level 20 years later
I think we see another type of mgs2 hate where people were just upset they couldn't play as snake and though they were lied to by advertisement (it was all according to plan, the MEME and all)
actually this thread made me want to replay mgs4 right now
Anonymous No.718590881 >>718590919
>>718590574
What if platinum doesn't have the source code?
Anonymous No.718590907
>>718586585
Most of mgs4 engine was ported to PC with MG arcade, there was also a rumored X360 port that some konami devs talked about iirc
Anonymous No.718590919 >>718591121
>>718590881
Then Konami hires a company to port the existing PC version.
Anonymous No.718590930 >>718592245
>>718589334
>MG2 in S tier
You are either a contrarian or so fucking old that you actually played this when it came out and you're wearing rose-tinted nostalgia glasses. It doesn't hold up well.
>Ghost Babel in A tier
Come on now.
>MGSV in the same tier as GZ
What the fuck are you doing? GZ is by far the superior game.
>Peace Walker ranked this low
Weird but I can see how some people aren't a big fan.

It's not the worst tier list but I am still somewhat disagreeing with most of it.
Anonymous No.718590961
>>718590818
this isn't untrue but there were enough fun servers to have fun for a few years. i just miss it a lot
Anonymous No.718591054 >>718591137
Everytime i start thinking "was MGS4 really that bad?" i reach act 3 and go "!oh yeah right"
Anonymous No.718591121 >>718591581
>>718590919
not sure if it makes sense economically but I hope so, I'd rather get MGR than MGS4 desu (don't own a PC nor an xbox)
Anonymous No.718591137 >>718591484
>>718591054
>boomer has shit opinions amd memory problems
Not surprised
Anonymous No.718591259
>>718587520
chew you even havisfaction even a singlicious satisfact to snack that up?
Anonymous No.718591337 >>718591506 >>718591682
>>718588041
>pretty clever
>uhhhhhhh yeah the actual reason big boss comes back after he clearly dies is he has an impostor that was just as good as him, did everything he did under his name, didn't even get facial surgery to match his looks because no one truly knew what big boss looked like for some reason, and also was brainwashed into being big boss which somehow also made him a god of combat and stealth
Yeah, uh, real "clever".
>>718590580
The cutscene to gameplay ratio is literally 70-30 you retarded faggot.
Anonymous No.718591369
>>718584994 (OP)
>We're on the ps trippple now snake, xbox ain't got no gayyymes
Anonymous No.718591376 >>718591575 >>718602309
>>718589963
>never understood the hate for 4
The story is probably the worst of them all. It's disjointed as fuck with constant asspull after asspull as Kojima desperately tries to tie up every loose end, even if that means that he breaks his own canon. The bossfights are among the worst in the franchise and so are the codec calls (especially Drebins "bed time stories" after each boss fight).

>>718590230
>MGSV is the only good one
The crazy thing is that I don't know if you're trolling or not. You're objectively wrong but I know that a lot of zoomers have only really played V and watched YouTube recaps for the older games (if they even bothered) so they genuinely believe that the game is good. Anyone with half a brain cell can see that the game is open world slop with a criminally unfinished story.
Anonymous No.718591419 >>718591973
>>718584994 (OP)
i don't know but i hope it comes out soon, i've been holding off on getting into this franchise because i heard that 4 is practically impossible to emulate
Anonymous No.718591476
>>718590862
It's more refined than MGS3, but it doesn't really do anything especially exciting with the mechanics. The CQC expansions are slick but entirely irrelevant, even ignoring the structure of the game making sneaking through basic enemies a passing interest. And that's the crux of my real problem with MGS4: the game does not give a fuck about sneaking, and even the first two acts pale in comparison to the vast majority of MGS3.

MGS1 is also pretty light on stealth and exploration compared to other games in the series, but the difference between MGS1 and MGS4 is that Shadow Moses is an interesting place to inhabit; every room is memorable, every piece of music perfectly suited, every boss fight memorable and fun. Even a novelty like rappelling down the tower is more compelling than MGS4's obsession with putting you on rails to shoot things.
Anonymous No.718591484
>>718591137
Being a contrarian is not a substitute for having a personality, anon. Nobody thinks you're special if you post shit like this.
Anonymous No.718591506 >>718592129
>>718590580
>>718591337
MGS4 has the longest cutscenes in the series but it actually has more gameplay than MGS1 and MGS2 and only slightly less than MGS3
Anonymous No.718591575 >>718591842
>>718591376
I'm 29, played the entire franchise around 2011 on the PS3.
I still maintain that MGSV is the best one, with MGR and Peace Walker tied for second place.
Anonymous No.718591581 >>718591830
>>718591121
fuck you, mgr is out on every other platform you can have right now. 4 is stuck in ps3 hell
Anonymous No.718591682 >>718592129
>>718591337
>The cutscene to gameplay ratio is literally 70-30 you retarded faggot.
nice overreaction over a nitpick, sperg
Anonymous No.718591731
>>718588968
Wait what?
Anonymous No.718591732 >>718593265
>>718588572
>Metal Gear Solid: Peace Walker HD Edition
>Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance
>Metal Gear Solid V: Ground Zeroes + The Phantom Pain
This would be extremely fucking stupid because both V and Rising are already widely owned and would undercut the purchase proposition of the expensive collection.
Anonymous No.718591774
>>718587791
ALERT ALERT BASED SENSORS OVERHEATING
REMEDIAL ACTION: BIG BOSS IS A HUGE FAGGOT

>>718588949
WARNING WARNING CRINGE DETECTED PROTOCOL: SHIT TASTE
Anonymous No.718591830 >>718591887 >>718591951
>>718591581
MGS4 is like 70% cutscenes though, I don't give a shit about that
Anonymous No.718591842
>>718591575
How can you maintain that V is the best one when it barely even has a coherent story? Do you just not care for it and just wanna run around in an empty open world and do wacky operator stealth shit? Did you stop playing before the last act? It's literally an unfinished game.
Anonymous No.718591887 >>718592312
>>718591830
Press start and you can skip the cutscenes, then it's 0% cutscenes.
Anonymous No.718591951
>>718591830
>pause
>skip cutscene
Anonymous No.718591973
>>718591419
Not true, there are RPCS3 builds specifically for MGS4. I played through the entire first act without too many issues.
Anonymous No.718591983 >>718592037 >>718592159 >>718592227
Should I emulate the original PSP version of Peace Walker, the HD port, or simply wait for Vol.2? I'm not in hurry to play it, of course.
Anonymous No.718592037 >>718592624
>>718591983
I imagine having a second analog stick would probably make the HD port the best one for gameplay.
Anonymous No.718592087
>>718590317
Nigga, you hide in a box nearby, dump 10 corpses near said box and have your hidden teammate instantly recruit everyone around. You don't have to drag guys to trucks after 2-3 missions once that feature is unlocked.
I won't say it doesn't have problems but it's a pretty enjoyable game with 60fps and right stick for camera controls and it's fun how characters who aren't Snake are actually viable and there's some bare-bones health and stamina management which I wish they fixed up more so that those soldiers you recruit would be worth adding to a combat squad and switching up to play as.
Anonymous No.718592103
My top 3 favorite Metal Gear games are

>Metal Gear Solid
>Metal Gear Solid: VR Missions/Special Missions
>Metal Gear Solid: Ghost Babel
Anonymous No.718592129 >>718592383 >>718592893
>>718591506
>>718591682
>me when I'm retarded
Anonymous No.718592159
>>718591983
Emulate the HD port on RPCS3. Check this wiki entry for some settings: https://wiki.rpcs3.net/index.php?title=Metal_Gear_Solid_HD_Collection
Anonymous No.718592207
>>718589076
That's...not the same game?
Anonymous No.718592227
>>718591983
In the same boat as you and I found the emulated PS3 one better. Smooth camera movement(you can emulate that on PPSSPP but it's a bit janky still) and just more buttons to press makes it more fun in general to control. PSP one is only worth it if you have a friend you know you will coop with a lot, I doubt rpcs3 one can do that as easily as PPSSPP.
Anonymous No.718592245
>>718590930
>It doesn't hold up well.
Parts of it do not. It's a fun game, though, and the best Metal Gear ever got at tying together stealth and exploration.
>Come on now.
Where would you put it?
>GZ is by far the superior game.
It's the same shit. I agree with the general consensus that Camp Omega ranks as the best level across both MGSV games, but TPP still has a lot of great stuff in it and a lot of Camp Omega is honestly superfluous, if impressive.
>Peace Walker ranked this low
Why wouldn't it be? The AI is brain-dead, the level and objective design is much better than PO's and occasionally pretty good but not enough to offset the enemies being pathetic, and the boss battles are a total waste of time. I actually like PW, but if anything I'd drop it down before I raised it since it feels weird to put it on the same tier as MGSV.
Anonymous No.718592312
>>718591887
Yeah and it leaves you with 30% of game which isn't much.
Anonymous No.718592383
>>718592129
>you when you're having a spergout on a video game imageboard
Anonymous No.718592624 >>718592686 >>718592843
>>718592037
>second analog stick
I still wonder what the fuck Sony were thinking. I remember downloading a Monster Hinter game for PSP back in 2007 or so because it was popular and uninstalling it after mere ten minutes because lack of second stick made controls pure shit.
Anonymous No.718592686
>>718592624
Well if it could run it the PSP is the perfect button layout for the Dreamcast.
Anonymous No.718592789 >>718594924
I just want Portable Ops with proper controls and HD textures.
>the only way to get dual analog controls is with the vita tv
I HATE IT
Anonymous No.718592843
>>718592624
it was very retarded and for some reason nintendo didn't even learn from that shit and didn't put a second slide pad on the 3ds. which also had fucking monster hunter.
Anonymous No.718592893
>>718592129
Its an 18 hour game with 7 hours of cutscenes
Anonymous No.718593180
>>718588041
Please don't post something this embarrassing again. The other guy already told you why.
Anonymous No.718593265
>>718591732
>the expensive collection.
They're like $30 man.
Anonymous No.718593273
>>718584994 (OP)
Licensing. Vol 1 took ages due to it
Anonymous No.718593612
>>718584994 (OP)
It's not only the PS3 references, but there's a bunch of sponsored shit in the game regarding multiple other brands as well. I imagine that's adding to the hell of porting it.
Anonymous No.718593938 >>718594972 >>718596924 >>718600274
>>718588024
>>718587912
>>718586585
So the specifics about the Cell Processor that the PS3 had:
It was actually quite powerful, the motherfucker had NINE CPU cores in 2007 (when quad core CPUs were considered a luxury), the issue was that it's not like other multi-core CPUs where each core is near-identical and they just share process load, with the Cell processor each core was different and was made to handle a different aspect of rendering or processing

This meant when a studio was trying to make a multi-plat game, they were designing around the PC and 360 first because the 360 was essentially a PC with a triple core CPU and a locked down operating system that was essentially just Windows at heart, meaning things would just work between these 2 platforms without much trouble and it was easy to just have the cores share the load evenly for every task, but then when they tried to port to PS3 they found that this didn't work AT ALL with the Cell processor, this is why a lot of early multi-plat games on PS3 looked or ran like shit, because the devs couldn't figure out how to retro-fit their game's processes to each core of the Cell processor

I specifically remember the E3 where Sony had an entire section that was just a video of various developers going "We've figured out the Cell processor" and sure enough after that the multi-plats were either in complete parity with their 360 version, or they were slightly better, and at the end of each console's lifespan the exclusive games on 360 started looking or running a lot worse than PS3 exclusives, because the Cell processor WAS stronger, it just took everyone ages to figure out how to use it properly.
Anonymous No.718594924
>>718592789
I think PO is dogshit but it'd still be nice to see it get the update treatment. Same for Ghost Babel, even though GB controls much better than PO.
Anonymous No.718594972 >>718600274
>>718593938
Nice, thanks for breaking it down for retards (not me) hahaha what buffoons
Anonymous No.718595723 >>718595874 >>718596050
>kojima canned xbox 360 port for reasons
why is he so obsessed with sony's cock?
Anonymous No.718595874
>>718595723
>Kojima
>in charge of a remaster done almost a decade after he left Konami
Anonymous No.718596050
>>718595723
>canned
Sony literally paid for the game's exclusivity, retard.
Anonymous No.718596438 >>718597126
>>718584994 (OP)
the voice actor of solid snake said in a reasend interview that he came back and did new voice lines for MGS5 and "OLD SNAKE". it is in developmend
Anonymous No.718596924 >>718598236
>>718593938
>>718587912
>>718586585
Gabe Newall famously really hated developing for the PS3 because of stuff like that.: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKYT6NzsUZQ
Anonymous No.718597126 >>718600092
>>718596438
proof?
Anonymous No.718598004
>>718584994 (OP)
delta is coming out and they don't want anything to get its attention
also porting takes time
Anonymous No.718598086 >>718598297 >>718598434 >>718598449
Vol. 2 will just be MGS4 and PW for $60.
Anonymous No.718598198 >>718602395
>>718590684
They're all secondaries that never played a MGS game and only read a synopsis online/watched a cutscene only version. They all started loving MGR only mysteriously after certain youtubers made videos on it that raked millions in views, otherwise MGR would have remained in the depth of the forgotten MGS lore as a "yeah that happened" tidbit
Anonymous No.718598236 >>718601398
>>718596924
Gabe Newall probably hated the PS3 because it forced his lazy ass to make an actual functioning game instead of a barely held together glitchy slop shitfest that gets memed into popularity.
Anonymous No.718598297 >>718598376
>>718598086
and that's a good thing
it would be cool if it included forgotten games like Ghost Babel or even MGS Tough for the iPod. That shit is lost media nowdays
Anonymous No.718598376
>>718598297
fuck I meant Touch*
Anonymous No.718598434 >>718598568
>>718598086
i mean, that wouldn't be too bad. add portable ops and maybe acid 1 and 2 and that would be ideal.
Anonymous No.718598449
>>718598086
I doubt they will skip Portable Ops since the guy who is working on Delta was the same one who helped to produce Portable Ops
Anonymous No.718598568
>>718598434
A PO port with proper controls and 60fps would be so cash. Maybe they could help streamline the slog that was recruitment as well
Anonymous No.718598634 >>718598891 >>718599068 >>718600045 >>718601945
Please understand that Metal Gear solid 4: Guns of the Patriots is too much of a game. Back when they were doing "Vol. 1" they might've thought, that in theory, it’d be easy enough to do the rest of the games and even when this is true for stuff like Portable Ops, Peace Walker, MGSV and Rising, these people had no idea what awaited them when they had to face the indomitable beast that is MGS4. After almost 20 years, the trannies from RPCS3 barely managed to "emulate" this monstrosity of a game. Think of it like an ancient technology, baffling, arcane, lost in time. I believe they are just hoping enough time passes where nobody remembers there should be a ”Vol. 2” or if such thing ever gets release, it will be all the games previously mentioned, except Guns of the Patriots. Too much of a game.
Anonymous No.718598732
>>718585189
parts of it CAN fit with the canon
null, sokolov, campbell etc
you can't perfectly fit the whole thing with the later games, but honestly the series is duct taped together as it is
Anonymous No.718598891 >>718599245 >>718600045
>>718598634
use the 360 version as a base instead
Anonymous No.718598952
Well this is exactly how Ken Kutaragi wanted, if devs made the game on PS3 it would stay there because porting would been a nightmare and result in a shitty port that would damage the 360.

It backfired so bad he lost his job within months post release kek
Anonymous No.718599068 >>718599629
>>718598634
>RPCS3
RPCS3 isn't exactly a great emulator anyway, though. It's passable. Even PCSX2 isn't that great, really.
Anonymous No.718599245
>>718598891
Its ironically that KJP managed to port the open level into the xbox 360 and it allegedly run at native 720p w/ aa at constant 30fps..They had to drag kojumbo into the run and show him.

Apparently he was shocked enough that later projects would focus on the 360 ( like MGSR )
Anonymous No.718599249
Recently played metal gear 1 and 2 for the first time. MGS is functionally kind of a zelda adjacent series in that they've been remaking / retelling the same game for 20+ years.
Anonymous No.718599486
>>718585189
No, Portable Ops was always canon, its only certain details that aren't. Other than that, the broad strokes of the story are pretty much true.
Anonymous No.718599629 >>718606378
>>718599068
>Even PCSX2 isn't that great, really.
Got the impression that it's essentially been fixed these days even if took like what, one decade and half to achieve this?
Too bad there isn't an equivalent for mobile though.
Anonymous No.718599861 >>718602520
PCSX2 always fine they just made the good versions more than one click away to download for some reason for over an decade.
Anonymous No.718600045 >>718600172
>>718598634
And the thing is if the whole point of the collections are to get us through the MGS series then MGS4 is the most important one left from a plot perspective. Regardless of whether you hate it's story or not, it's still basically the big fancy finale timeline wise (not counting Rising) and any players invested in the story would get confused why MGS2's story never got a follow up.

I can understand people liking a game like Phantom Pain better, but nothing on it is nearly as important in terms of the overall franchise plot.

>>718598891
>use the 360 version as a base instead
There IS no MGS4 on 360, or ANY other console besides PS3. Even if they could somehow get the rights and get it running, it would have had to have been spread apart amongst a million DVDs since a 360 ran on DVDs while PS3 were on blu-ray that could hold way more data. MGS4 was a a huge game in terms of storage space at the time.
Anonymous No.718600092
>>718597126
interview is on youtube its about 8 month old and was about how he feld abou the kojima vs solid snake voiceactor ( him) i have forgott his name
Anonymous No.718600172 >>718601178
>>718600045
Konami had mgs4 running on 360 anon
Anonymous No.718600274
>>718593938
>>718594972
This isn't entirely correct
The x360 processor had a powerpc cpu called Xenon
It was an ibm powerpc cpu, just like the Cell
In fact the cores were modified Cell cores, it was tri-core with multi threading so effectively it was a hexacore
The difference was the GPU, the Xenos, and ATI gpu with a 10mb edram on it that was basically used for free anti aliasing
Meanwhile the Cell had 8 cores not 9, but one was disabled, because yields were bad, and one of the cores was always reserved for system operations
So 6 usable cores, but one was the main core and the others were secondary, so it was weird to develop for
Also they wanted to not have a dedicated gpu, but then put in the nvidia rsx, which was good, but the ps3 had another problem, the ram was divided into system ram and graphics ram, like a pc does, instead of how the x360 and all subsequent consoles have by having unified ram
So while both x360 and ps3 had the same 512mb of ram, the x360 had those 10 extra edram and it was also unified which made it work much better for games
Basically the ps3 wasn't just one bad decision, it was several
Anonymous No.718600661 >>718600759
>>718584994 (OP)
what if Volume 2 is just MGS4 + the PSP games?
Anonymous No.718600759
>>718600661
that's what it should be, nobody needs revengeance or 5 ported again
Anonymous No.718601178 >>718601540
>>718600172
>"The reason we didn't see the game hit Xbox 360? The fact that Microsoft's console used DVD as its game delivery media. PlayStation 3 used Blu-ray, which allowed for bigger games; MGS4 took up 50GB of space (even on PS3, it had to be published on a special double-layer Blu-ray, the first PS3 title to do so). Releasing the game on Xbox 360 would have required it to span multiple discs, and that was clearly a no-go for Konami.
>Regarding Xbox 360: "Games are stored on standard 8.5 GB dual-layer DVD-ROMs; however initially only 7.3 GB (6.8 GiB) were allocated to be used for games on the "Xbox Game Disc 2" (XGD2) early format."

Assuming the above to be true, MGS4 would have had to release on like 8 discs for the Xbox 360. And don't forget that even for PS3 there's multiple times throughout the game you have to stop in order to install parts of it to system while deleting data from previous acts. Pic-related.

That alone would have been a big pain in the ass to figure out for Xbox 360 and you know players would have complained hard over the wait times.
Anonymous No.718601398
>>718598236
How do you misstype so many letters? It's spelled "T-O-D-D H-O-W-A-R-D".
Anonymous No.718601402
>>718586971
Based, MGR>MGSV
Anonymous No.718601540 >>718601971 >>718602106 >>718602247
>>718601178
i get all that anon but im talking about now for a vol 2 if ps3 is so difficult to port, use what they made for 360
Anonymous No.718601945
>>718598634
>tfw Delta will fucking fund MGS4's port to PC and MGR to PS5, knocking out two "never evers" with one stone
Anonymous No.718601971 >>718602474
>>718601540
>use what they made for 360
>implying nips out of all people kept files from 20 years ago
Anonymous No.718602106 >>718602474
>>718601540
>use what they made for 360
That HDD has been erased and overwritten several times now.
Anonymous No.718602247 >>718602474 >>718602916
>>718601540
One small I think about, is if we do get a port would they actually bother to get back Otacon's voice actor just to re-record pic-related?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_69rBtxG1k

Konami would probably just remove the scene all together but I can imagine if Kojima was still involved he's insist on rewriting/recording the lines for every platform because he's that much of an autist and wouldn't want to compromise his "artistic vision".
Anonymous No.718602309
>>718591376
>>never understood the hate for 4
>The story is probably the worst of them all.
1, 2 and 3 are a tough act to follow. Its decent, and better than 5 by miles.
>It's disjointed as fuck
Huh?
>with constant asspull after asspull
Twists that border on retcons are an mgs staple
>as Kojima desperately tries to tie up every loose end, even if that means that he breaks his own canon.
Never happened (in 4 anyway...)
>The bossfights are among the worst in the franchise
Mgs1's boss fights are total ass, theyre painful minigames there to give a sense of progression and variety and only the fights with liquid and sniper wolf are actually worth a shit. The mgs2 boss fights are nothing special except for the metal gear ray fight and solidus but mainly because those are kino. Mgs3 is really the only installment with consistently good boss fights
>and so are the codec calls (especially Drebins "bed time stories" after each boss fight)
The codec calls are good except for the bedtime stories lmao i will never listen to them again
Anonymous No.718602395
>>718588368
>>718590684
>>718598198
I've never played it. I don't have a PC. Console only sorry brahs
Anonymous No.718602474
>>718601971
>>718602106
probably true
>>718602247
they'd just mute those lines or cut them out entirely
Anonymous No.718602520
>>718599861
That poorly coded emulator that has a resident schizo here still has less issues running 2 and 3 than the Master Collection.
Anonymous No.718602916
>>718602247
Given what the current director has stated, they'll probably leave the lines in to keep the work as true to the original as possible.
Anonymous No.718603892
>>718584994 (OP)
>spoiler
exactly, they don't know how to remaster the swapping disc joke
Anonymous No.718606378
>>718599629
>Got the impression that it's essentially been fixed these days
It's fixed in the sense that it runs everything well enough if you have the hardware for it (as far as I know), but it's not great in the way Dolphin is. It still isn't hard to run into problems.

I'm not shitting on the developers or anything. It's just how it is. Nintendo 64 emulation isn't great either even though it's been usable for 20 years.
Anonymous No.718606607 >>718606990
>>718585189
The story in PO is fucking awful. Who would want it to be canon anyway? Peace Walker seems to deliberately tread all over it, though. Very little about PO makes sense other than the broad gist of Snake going down to handle a renegade FOX.
Anonymous No.718606990
>>718606607
One of the first lines in peace walker is Kaz saying "we can finally put that mess in San Hieronymo behind us". They really want people to forget that game exists
Anonymous No.718607075
>>718588949
sounds like you have double digit iq my brotha