Thread 718650512

Why don't gamers use Linux for gaming?

>>718650512 (OP)
I started to use it. Not too many issues so far. I'm especially happy because of the shit windows is going through.
I can see why people don't want to use it. There are like a million versions and there is always a fear you picked the wrong one or your game just doesn't work
Also some games really won't work because of shitty kernel level anti cheat

Doesn't it require alot of work to get games to sync with all the other programs they use like live service stuff and background programs? Since modern gamers don't even know how games are made I imagine they don't want to bother.

the biggest problem with linux is that the window buttons are round and ugly and un-reactive, like on windows, if you hover the minimize button, it will change color, but on linux, if you hover the button, like it's so small you can't even see if it changes color. also when using the web browser, switching tabs with the mouse is giga annoying because there is a bar at the top of the screen that shows the time n shit, but because of this gay ass bar, the window tabs are like not at the top of the screen, so you gotta move your mouse up to the top of the screen, and then a little down to click on the tab. absolute nigger design. this is why open source sucks. full of clueless niggers. windows had it right from the start

It's not good for games.

>>718651107
>there is a bar at the top of the screen that shows the time n shit
I never had that, it's probably specific to a certain distro or something. But I would be very surprised if there wasn't an easy way to move it.

>>718651342
what the fuck are you talking about? it's fucking gnome, you retard. the literal #1 desktop enviroment, and you dont know about it? what the fuck is your problem?

>>718650512 (OP)
What do you call this mental illness?

>>718651523
The #1 desktop environment (by usage) is windows you delusional tranny.
Why would I know about some other desktop environment than the one I use? I'm not an obsessed freak.

>>718650512 (OP)
No media presence depicting Arch as a normal thing to use as your OS. That's literally it.
Normalfags use things that they think are used by other normalfags and will put up with a lot of punishment and inconvenience to do so.
>Oh but muh Arch is so difficult
It is the beginner's OS, you really just need to be able to read.
>>718651523
I suppose another problem is that GNOME is sometimes the default instead of being thrown out of the standard repositories like it should be.

>>718651674
what, you're not even a linux tranny and yet here you are, dismissing my criticisms on linux despite your complete lack of knowledge on linux? do you actually have down syndrome?

because it's shit

>>718650512 (OP)
>looks ugly
>unintuitive af
>no driver support
>most applications don't work
Fuck Linux

>>718650512 (OP)
I mean I just had to write a text file to be able to use a controller I just bought so stuff like that is probably why. Great controller though.

>>718651763
You are dumb and brown. I use linux because it's better, not because I want to waste time learning about every flavor.

>>718651891
>looks ugly
takes one to know one
>unintuitive af
just say you're stupid
>no driver support
write your own(you cant because you're retarded)
>most applications don't work
wine + proton + seethe

>>718651642
>What do you call this mental illness?
which one? the OP or these threads always get bump limit?

>>718651920
you're an ignorant poser being disingenuous for no reason. and on top of that, you're calling others brown. prime example of pot calling the kettle black

Does Mint have good UI/UX design or is it full of shit like >>718651107 ?

if u use linux u will get hacked

Because most people think windows just works, and it does for their uses. Doesn't help a lot of the stuff people quickly talk about as positives for linux are things the average consumer doesn't give a fuck about. Average dude #48425 is more likely to assume you're a criminal pedophile the moment you talk about privacy or telemetry than anything else in current year.
And no matter if you don't care, they DO care about being able to play live service product #85 with an anticheat refusing to run on linux.

>>718650512 (OP)
Gamers do. Normalfags don't though and that is a much bigger segment of society.

>>718651107
Footfags deserve all they get.
>>full of clueless niggers.
It's ok, eventually they might learn to never touch Ubuntu or anything using Gnome with a 40ft pole.

>>718652038
I use mint xfce and it works pretty well for me. I do have some complaints here and there, but it's a nicer experience than windows. I wouldn't go back unless I was really force to. ChatGPT is pretty decent for figuring out any issue you run into.

>>718651107
Sounds like you're describing Gnome and I don't know why anyone who isn't RHEL user or a Macfag transitioning into a girl would go for that. Any self-respecting gamer would go for Plasma, that's what Steam Deck uses. People who wear a dunce cap would go for hyprland.

>>718652038
I wouldn't call it good, but it's oldschool Windows-like.

Good. I don't ever want to see Linux break 5% desktop share. Then it will gain corporate commercial interest and become just as enshittified as Windows.
niggercattle please stay in your pen

>>718652038
default is Cinnamon which mostly resembles Win 7/8.1
most new Linux users are zoomer retards who have this weird pre-emptive nostalgia for Win 10 and cry without muh KDE.

>>718650512 (OP)
Because Linux gives you nothing over having a Windows. And Windows is easier. Why would you want something harder to get subpar or the same experience?

>>718652098
I've been on arch since like 2018 and while I have a nuclear option old windows laptop for my chink controllers when they need firmware updates, I exclusively use Linux and have enjoyed every minute of it.
Currently playing subnautica, just got the cyclops and kinda burnin out ngl

>>718652038
Mint with cinnamon is effectively copying the homework of windows 7 with changes instead of being apple faggotry for the poor like gnome does.

>>718652038
you'll see how trash mint is as soon as you install it and open firefox. they added an extra bar at the top of the firefox window just so they can show the name of the application and add the close and minimize buttons instead of integrating it into the place it should be as marked in red

>>718652316
Not to run defense for Mint but you can easily change that in settings.

>>718650512 (OP)
I don't need it, I just play games so Win11 is fine for me. It just works.

>>718652548
just that fact that it comes like that is telling enough of the ethnicity of the people in charge of mint

>>718652316
Pretty sure that's how it used to look on Windows XP.

>>718652316
solution?

>>718652683
and then microsoft figured out that it's retarded and had it removed in vista (this incident happened 20 years ago)

>>718652804
Well Mint is copying the homework of old Windows not new pajeetsoft Windows.

>>718652854
adding a whole new bar at the top is just a completely unnecessary waste of space. like what the fuck are you even talking about "old windows and pajeetsoft"??

>>718651945
>a bunch of extra steps
On windows, the games and drivers just fucking work.

>>718653031
you could use a few extra steps in your life you fat fucker

>>718653001
Well I don't know what to tell you, that's what old Windows was like. I used XP until 2009, it was great.

>>718653087
Nice projecting, Chunks. The only people who use linux are immense landwhales who have a million hours to sit in a chair and try to match windows performance with every game individually.

>>718653031
Not really. Never managed to figure out why GoG Frostpunk did not run on my Windows PC.

i do. arch (btw)

>>718653154
Everything works flawlessly on Steam. Though certain versions of Proton do perform better with certain games.
Only real issue I have run into is using multiple monitors with different resolutions and refresh rates. Easily enough to fix

i had to go back to windows because my vr headset doesnt work on linux

>>718652245
And that's great. But without the average person being tempted to do so, it'll remain niche. Which isn't even a bad thing, the "why do you not play linux? you should because [shit the average person doesn't give a fuck about]" is just funny to me. For the average Gamer(tm) the people pushing distros as vidya performance boosts + big talking heads like pewdiepie talking about it did infinitely more than decades of talk about privacy, open source principles and customization.

>>718650512 (OP)
Whenever I search for answers to questions about how to do stuff/fix stuff on Windows, I get indian usernames on the official windows domain giving completely useless answers. Whenever I search for answers to questions about how to do stuff/fix stuff on Linux, I get manuals and technobabble with information I don't even know how to apply. And I don't buy steam games so my games wouldn't "just work"

>>718650512 (OP)
>why don't you use Y to do the thing that already works on X, just because it might have a chance of working... if you're lucky or stick to what works, well more of it works now
>anyway you might get to do the same thing you'd do on X but now you wave the Y pride flag woaaah

>>718650512 (OP)
I'd actually like to use my computer. if linux trannies can actually settle on just 1 or 2 main distros that does everything windows does 1:1 we might actually have a competition.

>>718650894
Linux doesnt play well or doesnt really work with most modern online games with anti-cheat.

>>718655868
I'll accept your thank you on behalf of Linux. Happy to help

Even the biggest shills on jewtube still use windows lmao.

>>718651891
>looks ugly
That's just a lie, you can customize Linux way more
>unintuitive af
Intuitiveness is down to use. You just need to get used to it
>no driver support
This is a flat out lie. The ONLY thing that lacks proper driver support that's widely used is nvidia GPUs and even that's improved a lot over the last couple of years. Even just in this year alone there's been improvements
>most applications don't work
The only program that really doesn't have a damn good Linux variant is adobe photoshop. GIMP isn't there and that's obvious.

>>718653303
>Everything works flawlessly on Steam.
>except anything with online anticheat
yeah ok

>>718655868
Name one (1) game actually worth playing that has anticheat

>>718656301
it doesn't matter. if linux trannies actually want linux to be adopted by the masses then you have to pander to the majority.

>>718656347
I use windows at work and linux at home, personally windows does nothing better that I care about but I also would never let these fucking Neanderthals touch one

>>718656347
Really though, what modern motherboard doesn't have at minimum 3 m2 slots?
Dual booting is honestly the way to go. I'll use Windows every few weeks if I want to run an emulator with Lossless Scaling but otherwise Linux is superior for general use.

>>718650512 (OP)
Ask a Linuxfag what distro to use and you'll get a million different answers. Of course, the cultists will tell you that theirs is the "best" one even though it's just as shitty.

>>718656479
>Dual booting is honestly the way to go.
do you really expect normies to do this?
>Linux is superior for general use.
not unless you use adobe,autocad,office,solidworks, Lots of industry level audio and video NLEs etc etc

Because there's currently only one public facing product that comes with Linux installed and the public is getting dumber

>>718656627
What kind of a loser does work on their own machine lmao

>>718656775
so no retort then? cool.

>>718656827
Imagine using adobe though, for realsies

Actual brainlet behavior

>>718656637
>and the public is getting dumber
linux fags actually think normies will bother with shit like dual booting and reading manuals for troubleshooting when zoomers can barely copy paste a file.

>>718656883
>Actual brainlet behavior
>Actually thinking gimp is anywhere close to photoshop
this is your brain on linux

>>718650512 (OP)
Good is subjective.

>>718650512 (OP)
Install CachyOS

>>718656775
People who make their own money, ones who don't settle on being what's essentially a slave, who only receives the insultingly small drizzle his corporate masters deem to feed him.

>>718650512 (OP)
The only downside of gaming on Linux is that multiplayer slop with kernel level (((anticheats))) doesn't work.
Wait... downside?

>>718652316
>getting filtered by the basic checkbox setting
No wonder modern two digit IQ brainrotten zoomies get filtered by Linux so hard.

>>718657507
>linux trannies bitch about people not using linux
>refuses to cater to the most played games
>wonders why people don't use it

>>718650512 (OP)
Why hasn't there been a single attempt at making a dustro that looks and operates exactly like windows? Literally all you need to do to get people interested. Once they realize they can have an install wizard and double-click to run any game, they will start experimenting on their own.

Desktop is garbage.
Some games can run alright, until they don't, then it's more of a pain to troubleshoot then Windows.
I don't mind the latter really, it's the desktop that I can't stand.
Please don't @(Me) with gaslighting copeposts "it used to be bad but now it's good!!", it's past embarrassing at this point.

>>718651107
>switching tabs with the mouse
bait used to be believable

I've tried but there are tiny little annoyances that build up during use and end up infuriating me, shit like pressing a button and expecting it to work one way but it works in another way. I'm too used to the windows file explorer and it doesn't matter if the KDE *looks* like it but doesn't feel like it

>>718657678
The only game from this list that doesn't work on Linux is PUBG, but you're not a 3rd world SEA nigger to play this slop are you?

>>718657892
nigger BF6,league of legends and Valorant doesn't work on linux. on that list alone Apex legends,GTA 5 online,Delta force and siege don't work. it doesn't matter if you think those games are slop they're still the majority and if you want Linux to actually be adopted en mass it needs to actually work with everything. I thought you linux faggots were supposed to be smart?

>>718658147
only retards would install kernel level anticheat on their pc.

>>718658270
>only retards would install kernel level anticheat on their pc.
good thing that's the majority of the population.

>>718658147
>BF6,league of legends and Valorant
Require kernel level anticheat which is not technically possible on Linux, since it's more secure than Winjeet and respects your privacy.
>Apex legends,GTA 5 online,Delta force and siege
All work perfectly on Linux, use either BattlEye or EAC which are fully supported on Linux, disabled on Linux by developers (faggots).
>it needs to actually work with everything
It does work with everything. Even thought gaming is not the main focus of Linux, it does support all games very well, the only limitation is your own IQ and bad developers.

cant be arsed.

>>718650512 (OP)
I guess certain individuals are getting worried about the rise of Linux gaming, otherwise they wouldn't run such a shill campaign.

>>718652104
>Gamers do
loling at you actually believing this

>>718658290
>that's the majority of the population.
Based gullible retard.
There is a reason they hide real player numbers for those games and just show the number of accounts created (99% of which are bots, smurfs and ban evaders).
LoL and Valorant's concurrent player peak is at 20k at best, combined.

>>718658459
>It does work with everything.
>adobe,autocad,office,solidworks, Lots of industry level audio and video NLEs etc etc
it doesn't and the alternatives to some of those programs are nowhere near as good as their windows counterparts. believe me I WANT Linux to actually be better for everyone. microsoft needs the kick to the nuts.

>>718658459
>anti cheat isn't possible
yes it is. EAC and many other anti cheats work on Linux. It's merely a matter of the devs/publishers wanting it.
The anticheat will run it just won't have kernel access. Which honestly it doesn't need.

>>718658610
>Based gullible retard.
There is a reason they hide real player numbers for those games and just show the number of accounts created (99% of which are bots, smurfs and ban evaders).
LoL and Valorant's concurrent player peak is at 20k at best, combined.
sure whatever. keeps screaming at the skies that everything is just bots and retards keeping linux down

Linux sounds like a hassle to get up and running, especially with so many distros. Windows is just "turn on and it works" to the average person.

>its yet another thread where the same arguments that are outdated by a decade are repeated ad infinitum and people act like having preference or choice is bad
yawn

>>718658614
>office
Libre is better than office in most respects, especially since Windows insists on the fucking live service office 365 model.
>autocad
That 100% depends on file format. I'm not sure on the state of the cad situation these days but I remember that about 5 years back there were many linux alternatives already, just not with the common file system which will fuck you if you're using autocad for joint projects, not as much for solo projects
>adobe
Ya fucked. There's a webpage version I hear, not sure if any good. GIMP's also come a long way

my still working SSDs say fuck your windows

>>718658735
Mint is easier to install than Windows and probably more stable.
Not everything is Arch or Gentoo

>>718658614
>adobe
Works
https://github.com/isatsam/photoshop-on-linux
>autocad
Works
https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=86
>office
Works
https://github.com/winapps-org/winapps
>solidworks
https://github.com/cryinkfly/SOLIDWORKS-for-Linux

Once again, you're only limited by your IQ when it comes to Linux.

>>718658735
thats the funny part 90 percent of distros install easier and faster than windows does currently not helped by windows updating during install nonsense

If you use Linux your hobby inevitably turns into compiling kernels and similar to make games run and the act of actually gaming becomes secondary. ("Runs great on my DECK!" yeah but is it good?)

If you actually care about gaming you should just install windows. We all hate it but it just works and when it doesn't it's usually not your fault and someone else will fix it.

>>718658735
one of them can be booted, test driven, and installed all from a flash drive
one of them is windows

>>718650512 (OP)
Because most gamers are retarded.

>>718658995
>Once again, you're only limited by your IQ when it comes to Linux.
expecting the general public to do shit like run VM's and use the proper distro. this is why everyone makes fun of you.

>>718659039
You did your best but no camera shutter is quick enough to capture a Steam Deck at 100% battery unplugged. Now hurry up and plug it back in before you run out.

>>718659106
Huh?

>>718659171
I love this guy, what are your 5 top Tech Tips that he taught you?

>>718659264
that cable management is a meme is doesn't help cooling your pc

:)

>>718656301
forget about anticheat or multiplayer even name one (1) game actually worth playing

>>718659369
no one plays games on /v/

>>718659106
lol what a retard anon was right

>>718659369
Intravenous

>>718659171
that clip never gets old

>>718659489
I'll repeat name one (1) game "actually worth playing"

>>718659616
super mario brothers

>>718659171
Steamplay nuked my Debian desktop and trannies attacked me for calling it out

>>718653201
because you're a retard? maybe that's it

>>718659171
I use pop os, and it's great both for gaming and for productivity. You can very much install steam with apt now. That's what I did.

>>718651891
ik this is bait but ill bite because some retard might think its true
>>looks ugly
the amount of customization you can do on linux to make it look like anything you fucking want is top notch no other OS comes close to it
>>unintuitive af
depends on you starting distro, after using it for a year its really no different than Windows that much, problem is people forget they had to learn to use windows at one point as well and its now second nature
>>no driver support
im gonna assume this refers to nvidia, which is not true, i have RTX GPU and Intel CPU, nvidia drivers have had an insane amount of updates and work as they should, all games run the same like they do on windows
THOUGH there is some niche audio equipment that doesnt have driver support on linux
>>most applications don't work
the only applications that dont work are MicroShart Office and Adobe CC software
but you have alternatives for all of them, even on windows i've switched to LibreOffice years before i switched to linux because of how bloated MS office became
for Adobe stuff you also now have good alternatives
>Photoshop - Affinity Photo, Photopea
>Lightroom - Darktable
>PremierePro - DaVinci Resolve, Lightworks, Kdenlive
>Illustrator - InkScape

>>718656493
its almost like people have different preferences

>>718650512 (OP)
Is that the Tek Syndicate guy?
Damn I remember watching them like in 2012 or something
Their recent videos have like a few thousand views each lol wtf happened to them

>>718659718
what's a good adobe acrobat reader alternative? adobe has gotten too jewish with their pricing

>>718659718
>alternatives
I have to learn a new soft, instead of the one I used for years, because your system is trash. Why would I do it? Give me a fucking reason. Clearly, I miss something.

>>718659952
>Their recent videos have like a few thousand views each lol wtf happened to them

there was some infighting. he was properly sharing profits so the fat guy left and took most of the viewers with him.

>>718650512 (OP)
Apart from programming there is not a single good reason to use Linux

>>718661032
>newest window update literally kills SSDs
>next windows will be based around voice control memes
two very good reasons to avoid that dumpster fire

>>718660045
not getting fucked in the ass by China/Russia/USA for using winjeet.

>>718659706
Thank you for informing me that I need to tinker with my Windows install and be a peerless expert at troubleshooting to get a game to run instead of just installing it with GoG Galaxy and then pressing play.

I thought it was supposed to just work, fucktard.

>>718650792
>There are like a million versions and there is always a fear you picked the wrong one or your game just doesn't work
>Also some games really won't work
this.
people are used to apps and clicking shortcuts.
Linux is black magic for them.
unless you start putting it on pcs as default and people realize its more than enough for their normie stuff, linux won't ever happen

>>718650512 (OP)
dont know about the rest of you but im straight so i use windows 10 still

>>718650512 (OP)
I used Nobara, I thought it was great (but in reality KDE was great)

it's all fun until you want to play a new game, some old games wont work without hiccups so now you gotta experiment with proton builds and what not
you can't just install an app and run it
>inb4 just use win/proton
it doesn't work flawlessly (if it worked)

so all and all, Linux will never be "out of the box" experience, and it somehow did, it's after a decade or so

>>718659171
>yes do what I say
The terminal tried to warn him. He didn't listen.
That was a pretty bad bug at the time, but it did get fixed within reasonable time. Wasn't happening to just Steam either.

>>718660045
>your system
no its your jewish software thats trash because they dont want to release binaries for linux
thats got nothing to do with the system
>>718659973
you can use libreoffice to some extent to edit PDFs
but there is also Master PDF Editor

>>718650512 (OP)
I couldn't get past the estrogen check to download.

>>718662010
Your levels must have been too high, back to troondows for you.

>>718661147
Your PC got backdoors on a hardware level.

>>718662164
Windows is gay, Linux is trans.
Mac Chads it's our time!

>>718662497
based retard logic

>>718662946
That's not any logic. It's a fact.

Because the total number of people who install their OS on their own without having it come with their prebuilt are incredibly tiny. The number's growing, sure, but for every person who builds their own machine and installs their OS, there's like ten other people who just buy a prebuilt from the store with the OS pre-installed.

>>718662582
Macs are cucks.

>>718663515
i built my pc and its been running perfectly on a free unregistered copy of windows for over 5 years and plays every game all day and ive almost never shut it off. 9600kf, 3060ti (was a 2060 at first) why would i give a fuck about what os im using?

>>718650512 (OP)
It's kino but not plug n play. You need to install drivers manually. It did beat Windows for me.

>>718650512 (OP)
pc faggots are already fat tranny vegans and troonix users are the fat tranny vegans of the pc faggot gaming community or something o algo

>>718664728
Use the windows 7 start orb you ghoul!

>>718650512 (OP)
Because we don't want to deal with schizotrannies like >>718651523

>>718664865
I could actually do that but I wanted something Linux-ish. This KDE icon is aero enough imo.

>>718656493
>Choice bad
>Please tell me what to use Daddy Microsoft.

>>718664941
The KDE orb is garbo. You need something better

>>718650512 (OP)
Because desktop Linux sucks.

what if i only play indie games off of itch io? I played them through bottles on mint, but after an update it shat the bed. Otherwise, mint has been good to me.

>>718665663
Just use Lutris.

>>718650512 (OP)
I only use Windows because of Rocksmith. But when I get my amp, I'll only use Linux. Reaper + Linux combo is great. Plus, there are a lot of free AMP Sim plugins.

>>718651107

In Chrome:
Settings > Appearance > Use system title bar and borders: switch off

Every single thing that annoyed me I just asked ChatGPT how to fix and fofllowed the instructions.

t. NixOS user

>>718661358
There are zoomers who can into computers but there's still a lot of them who can't undestand the concept of directories and will dump everything on the desktop like boomers

>>718667206
>There are zoomers who can into computers >but there's still a lot of them who can't undestand the concept of directories
Then, they can't into computers

>>718661358
I totally get it but this was tried 20 years ago. Option to load from major oems like dell and hp. Some even for free vs buying windows. It didn't work. Normies will not use anything then what they use at work even if it ejected $10 every time you turned on your pc.

i can't mod my games on linux, major deal breaker

>>718650512 (OP)
I'm a Principal Software Engineer.
If I wanted to spend my free time doing the exact same thing that I do for a living (fucking with software packages and fixing other retards shitty code) I'd use Linux.
I just want to play my stupid videogames.

>>718667661
Linux is much more plug and play than Windows.

>>718651173
This is untrue.
I have been using bazzite for about a month now. I am getting much better performance than windows on the same machine
I have been playing MHwilds on 4k ultra using a 9070xt and it runs flawlessly
on windows I was forced to use framegen.

>>718667661
I'm a senior devops engineer and I feel like switching from win 10 to NixOS (especially with ChatGPT helping me along the way) literally took me an hour and actually felt fun.

>>718667947
many people don't care about performance, unless performance is too bad and it affects gameplay

>>718650512 (OP)
Because I am not a child and there is a bunch of stuff i need that only works properly on Windows.

>>718667856
Wrong in every way that matters.
We're a Linux/Unix shop, and I've been writing software professionally in 'nix environments for 25 years.
You just forgot about the 12 hours you spent trying to get your wifi, dac, or vrr monitor working.
That or you have the absolute most common hardware profile possible, in which case: congrats.

>>718667973
>the guy who enjoys deploying software packages had fun using an OS that literally exists to fuck with software packages
Enjoy your PacMan, I guess.

>>718668080
Well the game I was playing has tons of negative reviews because of the performance
But other than performance, I like it because it just works.
I don't have to constantly look for updates for drivers. I don't have to worry about random shit breaking often
But it's definitely a different experience
I always thought the Linux retards were obnoxious, but I'm starting to get it

>>718651173
It's perfecting fine if you're not looking to play multiplayer slop with intrusive anticheats

linux could be so much more, but it suffers from no central authority. everyone needs to build their own stupid flavor that tickles their butthole the way they like it so theres 14 "main" distros with 14 different UI/filesystem implementations, everyone shits on the most normalfag one (ubuntu) and game devs say no thanks. installing your os shouldnt be an accomplishment, it should be boring, like windows.

>>718661428
works on my machine.
>>718661358
In my experience it's really just that people are lazy. They'd rather deal with bullshit everytime than make a change to fix it and windows preys on that by making all their stupid bullshit just not annoying enough to completely hamper progress

>>718658542
Microsoft has reason to worry. Windows has a ~72% market share on desktop operating systems. That seems like a healthy share and nothing to worry about, but Windows had a ~92% market share back in 2010. There's an undeniable downward trend, and Windows is not the defacto standard it used to be. People are starting to treat other OSs as proper alternatives.

>>718668295
I'm on windows 10 because of muh games, but as soon as they force me to go to 11, I'm going back to linux.

>>718668328
>In my experience it's really just that people are lazy
it might be, but man, I have had problems on linux and they fuck you well. yo have to search on internet for some shady command line and hope it works

>>718668240
In addition to being plug and play, Linux provides premium features and performance for everyone, even those with a shitass PC. My shitty HDD feels like an SSD compared to Windows.

>>718668597
Holy shit: he's retarded...

>>718668597
one word: Drivers

>>718668656
But it's true. When my PC was broken, I used Linux and could even play games. Meanwhile, W10 refused to work on my busted PC. That's what made me switch. Since 2019, Linux has been my main system.

>>718650512 (OP)
most people don't even know how to create a live usb, or how to change boot order, or know how to get through the installation wizard

>>718663515
>1 in 10
more like 1 in 1000
most people are plebs

>>718650512 (OP)
reminder that this guy blew up his successful career due to his ego and some weird boobie streamer

>>718667326
NTA but I thought it was clear from the way he structured his sentence that he's talking about two separate groups of zoomers, surely you aren't some sort of ESL...

>>718668240
>the guy who enjoys deploying software packages had fun using an OS that literally exists to fuck with software packages
>Enjoy your PacMan, I guess.

Well, yes. I want things to just work once I put the initial effort to make it work. Now I don't need to worry about other distros like Ubuntu as well or bricking my system. I can just boot to a previous change if needed. I've since deployed VMs in the cloud with NixOS as their OSs and managed to automate even the setup of a bunch of stuff on them so I don't even need to SSH into the VMs themselves, only the master node in my cluster. I can have as many identical worker nodes as I want since its all using the same nix config file.

>>718668779
This statement is absolutely full of lack of understanding.
I don't even know where to begin...

>>718650512 (OP)
having issues i dont have with windows
bascially this dude
>>718650792
>not too many issues so far

but not issue free which is what windows is right now for me

because too many people are tech illiterate and don't know how to use a terminal for shit, thereby losing 80% of the power of linux right out the gate.

>>718669243
Congratulations!
You discovered the advantate of 'nix based OSs for enterprise infrastructure!
Too bad that's not an advantage for me booting up a game when I get off work...

>>718669303
Linux is faster and easier to use than Windows. The only good thing about Windows is Office, other than that, it's an outdated piece of shit.

>>718651945
if your response to "linux having no drivers for something" is to write your own drivers you are bascially admitting defeat and in fact screaming as loud as possible that linux is shit and worse than windows, which by your own admission it is

attacking the people with true grievance instead of attacking linux which is at fault.. is not how you convert anyone


but then again you wouldnt know that, you are using linux you are retarded

>>718669514
lol lmao even

>>718650512 (OP)
Lot of things are good for you but people dont do it. Like drink water.

Linux needs an awareness campaign and some sort of gen z ambassador. Zoomers could be the first linux generation

If water is so good why don't people drink it?

>>718669393
to be honest, terminal scares many people and it's kind of tedious to be writting shit just to copy and paste some files.
so it's natural for people raised in windows to avoid terminal. that stuff is for hackers and IT people

>>718669514
Okay, friend. What part of your "computer was broken" and how?
Why did it work with Lunix and not Windows?
If you cannot answer these questions you lack fundamental understanding, and are a command-paste-kiddy working off a nice helping of placebo.

>>718669657
as soon as no one can tell you what the actual programm is you need to click to start it they are gone... the simplest shit in windows is a headache in linux.. in windows if i install a program and it has not link on the desktop or in the mainmenu i can always just look for the exe file in the folder and start it. In linux you install something and there is no link and nothing and you then look in the folder only to be greeted by all kinds of files but no way of knowing which file starts the program because there are not dedicated extensions that just tell you its the thing to klick to start shit. No one can tell you what the .exe equivalent is.

>>718650512 (OP)

Do I still have to edit obscure text files to get my sound to work?

linux is a piece of shit, but it's way less of a piece of shit than windows is.

>>718651107
>the window tabs are like not at the top of the screen, so you gotta move your mouse up to the top of the screen, and then a little down to click on the tab.

Yeah even Microsoft fixed that in Explorer like a decade ago. Open-source is too often just masturbatory "I can do computers too!" engineer-designed slop.

Using Linux is intentionally wasting your time so you can have some made-up sense of superiority over people who Windows and don't want to waste their time. Convenience isn't something Linuxturds comprehend.

>>718651107
This post is a true masterwork in baitcrafting. You rarely ever see such a clever post nowadays. The descriptive nature, typing style, even down to the part of NOT mentioning the distro, and the innocuous use of slurs. Guy truly understands the eye of a real luddite.

>>718650512 (OP)
Im going to swap to linux but Ive always been fearful of running into the nightmare scenario of trying to do some basic ass shit and it doesnt work leading me down a rabbithole of random github pages just trying to get it to work

>>718650512 (OP)
It's because a lot of things don't work out-of-the-box. Whereas almost everything works out-of-the-box with Windows. Most people don't want to spend their time off troubleshooting.

That's it. All of these other things that people are bringing up is irrelevant.

>>718670507
>time to install linux and get into any game
5-10minutes
>time to install windows, all drivers/software by hand and get ingame
few hours
lol

>>718670838
>linux
>drivers
anon, do not lie to people like this.

linux is like what 30 years old? and i have to install flatseal to make my game work on a separate drive, just thinking about it is making my head boil

>>718670917
only retards use flatpak

>>718650512 (OP)
I use it in Factorio - runs natively, and can autosave without pausing the game (Linux only, on Windows it pauses when autosaving)

Worked just fine in Dota2 in the past

>>718670838
>>time to install linux and get into any game
>5-10minutes

I bet you can't even get Nethack running properly in ten minutes.

>>718670507
have a made-up sense of superiority over people is the only reason I come on /v/

>>718670838
and how many times are you going to install windows? every day?

>>718651107
I donate my data to microsoft so I don't have to deal with shit like this

im building an amd linux gaming rig, parts on the way. But I've been test driving linux for months on my laptop so not exactly a rookie

>>718671232
every 6 months when it loses around 10-20% performance.
>>718671146
Install CachyOS (3-5 Minutes with good Internet)
sudo pacman -S cachyos-gaming-meta (few seconds)
open steam and start gayme

>>718670838
>he thinks booting an emulator off a live-USB is the same as installing linux and booting into any game
Uh...

The simple answer is that i'm retarded and would rather spend my time playing games and using applications than figuring out how to use it. Even when I tried it it never made any sense. I would go to download something and it would only have a handful of distro options. Ok...guess i'll pick this one even though it's not my distro. Oops. too bad. And then even if I could get it to download, it's just some text file. I want to be able to double click and start the application, not downoaod some code and then magically (no instructiobs btw) know where to paste that code and how to run it to actually download said application. The easiest way is to just use the distros built in app store. But at the end of the day, it will never have as many applicatiobs as Windows, and they will never run as good as Windows. Plus, Linux versions of some apps have missing features. Some games just flat out won't work. And this meme that it's only multiplayer games is just that. A meme. I don't want every single purchase to be a gamble of "I wonder if this will work or not". Also, i'm not transgender, so I use Windows.

I've been running desktop linux for the last 26 years.

>>718671367
>winjeet grasping at straws
sad

>>718669836
How is it a placebo if Windows refused to work on my PC? I downloaded a distro and the PC started working normally again. But if you need so much troubleshooting in Windows, how does that make it more plug and play than Linux? It looks like Linux is a better experience for casual users and also for power users than Windows.

>>718671363
Oops!
>You use a non-built-in audio solution...
>You have a HDR or VRR monitor...
>You have an Nvidia GPU...
>You use wifi or have a non-intel ethernet port...
>You actually want it to properly utilize an asymmetrical CPU like a 9950X3D or literally every Intel model sonce the 13 series...

Who said linux was good?

Linux
>no shader compile stutter
>better cpu scheduler
>better filesystems
>better network stack
>better performance on amd hardware
>better emulator support
>doesnt spy on you
>no telemetry
>no recall
>no indexing of your private video and image files
>no kernel level anticheat giving retarded gayming companies full access to your pc
>no need for antivirus slowing down your pc
>better compatibility with older gaymes
>no windows update breaking stuff every month
wintrannies...

>>718671654
>>You use a non-built-in audio solution...
dunno what you're on about with this
>>You have a HDR or VRR monitor...
KDE has HDR last I checked, as do other DEs
Gamescope supports it
VRR works fine on Wayland
>>You have an Nvidia GPU...
modern Nvidia works fine
>>You use wifi or have a non-intel ethernet port...
mediatek 10gig NIC worked fine
>>You actually want it to properly utilize an asymmetrical CPU like a 9950X3D or literally every Intel model sonce the 13 series...
i use a 7950x3d, works ootb
use taskset if you want

>>718670635
run it in a virtual machine, try to get your normal workflow working in it, then take the plunge eventually

or get a minipc, put linux on it and gradually migrate when you're comfy, but this will limit what games you run

>>718671676
me

>>718671676
the benchmarks say Linux is better than Windows in every way possible

>>718668080
But most people care about not corrupting a 2TB+ NVME or SSD drive just installing a new CoD update

Yes saar keep supporting microsaar there are no bugs. Win 11 doesn't default turn off one CCD if you have more than 8 cores saar. Use for workstation too saaar. No problems moving large files saar

>>718671785
>Linux
>no shader compile stutter

>>718671654
>You use a non-built-in audio solution...
works fine on my dac
>You have a HDR or VRR monitor...
works fine on my pg32ucdp
>You have an Nvidia GPU...
works fine, only has problems with dx12 performance that nvidia is going to fix with the next driver (585.xx)
>You use wifi or have a non-intel ethernet port...
mediatek and realtek work fine retard
>You actually want it to properly utilize an asymmetrical CPU like a 9950X3D or literally every Intel model sonce the 13 series...
the cpu scheduler on linux works way better than the windows one

>>718671950
yeah doesnt happen on linux

>>718671974
>only has problems with dx12 performance that nvidia is going to fix with the next driver (585.xx)
they confirmed this?

>>718671882
Wrong, you have to manually add tranny flags to your linux desktop, Windows adds them automatically. Checkmate.

>>718650512 (OP)
>People don't use Linux because of software incompatibility
>Developers don't port software because nobody uses Linux
It's a fucking miracle. The community said "we'll port it ourselves" and the greater culture responded "BLOCKED".

>>718650512 (OP)
Because it sucks ass and nothing works

>>718651107
>>718670592
Based.

>>718669315
>Windows
>Issue free
0.05 rupees have been deposited to your account my good sir.

>>718669315
>kills your ssds
>sets audio to 100% with dacs
>prints stuff randomly
>black screens with nvidia
>restore function doesnt work anymore
the winjeet experience of the last few months

My experience with linux over the years
>icon and text scalling on most are off and need tinkering
>OOB fonts are ugly, you still need to install Windows fonts, or most .docx files will look like ass
>pad don't work wirelessly on some distros, PS pad need some alpha drivers from git to work
>native games either crash or have issues with fullscreen and image scaling or don't even launch, so much for indie devs supporting linux
>installing a non-steam windows game in steam is fucking tedious (inb4 Lutris - whole point of physical or GOG is to not use another launcher)
>unless you use a basic distro like Debian or FUCKING ARCH, you get bloat
>getting rid of bloat is harder than Win11
>FUCKING ARCH not being at all bloated, means you will spend an hour after install to get the basic apps running
>rolling release distros are pretty much as prone to updates fucking something up as Windows if not more, only you won't hear about it
>"gaming" distros like Bazzite, Manjaro or Pop have their own set of issue mostly being performance
>older games still run much worse than Win
>mods will not work in some cases and nobody will help you
>uncommon peripharals like support is ass or non-existent (joysticks, arcade sticks, trackir)
>pretty much every open-source alternative to proprietary software has an interface that is designed to frustrate
>linux better productivity is a meme, it's the last OS I would ever use for work ever
>there are real people who will defend Vim
So yeah, I'd say if you love solving problems you wouldn't have otherwise, linux is great.

>>718675013
>running the windows version through wine performance is better than the native Linux application
Linux is fucking dogshit. Some desktop environments don't even have thumbnail support

>>718651891
>No driver support
I don’t use Nshittia GPUs so I don’t have that issue.

>>718675978
>>718675841
>it was revealed to me in a dream
ranjesh...

>>718662164
You can disable everything in this image

>>718679218
>have to tinker to get the linux ootb experience
lol

>>718657870
WHAT THE FUCK ELSE WOULD YOU USE

>>718677354
I use nshittia gpus on linux and don't that issue either.

>>718650512 (OP)
the answer is multiplayer slop with kernel anticheats. Lots of those games ban linux users from playing the fame.

>>718680048
Ctrl + tab

>>718675802
>sets audio to 100% with dacs
This is not a valid complaint, that is something you should be doing. I always have my DAC set to 100% on Linux.

Bros I'm trying to play Ship of Harkinian but it's giving me this error. Any idea how to fix it?

>>718664728
>You need to install drivers manually.

Tried it a month or so ago. After the first restart Steam wouldn't launch anymore. Did a quick search and it was a known bug and the only way to start it was trhough the terminal.
That's just a shitty user experience.

>>718658929
>and probably more stable
(you)

>>718675841
Fonts are really bad on linux and there is nothing you can do to fix the kerning.

So what distro DO I use for gaming?

>>718685872
That question will get 100 different answers from 100 different people.

>>718685872
the unanswerable question...

>>718686264
>>718686386
I'm gonna use the first one I hear

>>718687030
Bazzite then.

>>718687243
Thanks downloading right now

>>718661428
>Nobara
you picked one of the less beginner friendly distros for gaming. I have been using bazzite for a few months and I haven't opened the console once. It sucks when there's some new multiplayer game with a shitty anticheat that I cannot play, but it's for the better.

>>718650512 (OP)
linux is shit and only tranny autists care about it

>>718650512 (OP)
I use it on all my PCs, only think I don't use it for is gaming because I don't want to install proprietary shitware like Steam on my linux install. I generally just have a dualboot with windows for just games and do eveything else on linux.

>>718650512 (OP)
Duuuuuude I need that kernel level anti cheat to play my jeet coded goyslop.

>>718688815
this but with chink casino goyslop

>>718650512 (OP)
>Why don't gamers use Linux for gaming?
Because gamers are retards who let corporations fuck them over with tpm and secure boot requirements
Also we lost vg thread to gacha faggots so I have to post here

I did, it's no problem. The only game I couldn't get working was a pirated copy of E33, so I dual-booted that one. It's no longer 2010, most of the popular distros with something like KDE are piss-easy to use. I'm on opensuse tumbleweed, and I'm not even German.

>>718691445
>The only game I couldn't get working was a pirated copy of E33, so I dual-booted that one
weak penguin energy

Pirated version of Forza Horizon 4 freezing on my Steam Deck while it runs just fine on my CachyOS PC. I don't want to buy 5 because it's shit, I can't buy 4 on Steam because it's delisted and I can't play my Window Store version for obvious reasons. Shit sucks

I want to confess: I've played Wasteland 3 using Proton because I thought controller doesn't work on native Linux version. Now that I checked it working perfectly fine.

>>718651642
How do you search with image hashes anyway?
How do you get an image hash?

>>718692706
it literally says in the field "drop image here"
you drop you're image there. it just werks

>>718650512 (OP)
Stuck on windows since Linux is genuinely being oppressed by a cult of technocrat bohemian grove faggots because freedom is scary and you must obey Nvidia, Pajeetyasoft, and Bill Gates. Tick tock oldniggers.

>Friend makes a Skyrim together server.
>Never modded Skyrim before but got the mod to load up under proton without issue.
>Can't connect to friend's server.
>They're using ZeroTier to connect to it instead of port forwarding it.
>Zero resources to funnel wine/proton through it.
>Realize this is the third time I tried to do a virtual lan party on linux that's failed.
I wish VPN clients weren't so shit, god damnit.

It just works

>>718656493
In the end there are only three distros people actually use. Debian, Arch and Fedora. Everything else that people use are a fork of one of those. And the only real difference is what fucking package manager you use. Literally just pick whatever distro has the coolest logo and be done with it. Desktop environments can be changed to your preference.

>>718694650
does the dps meter work?

Fuck Nvidia.
That's all.

>>718650512 (OP)
Because Linux fags have never found a way to explain what benefits the average user would get for switching from what everyone else uses. The autistic shit that they spew is actually an advertisement against it, scaring away normies from ever considering Linux.

>>718695361
I had fewer problems on laptop with Nvidia discrete GPU on Linux than I have with AMD drivers on Windows

>>718695107
I dunno, is that a mod? It should work just fine

>>718695732
its built into pd2

>>718695805
I haven't tried it but it should work without any problems. Mods works just fine on Linux.

>>718696241
i thought you were playing pd2 due to the widescreen mod. pd2 works, but i havent gotten the dps meter to show anything but 0, and i suspected it was because of proton

Will there ever be a workaround for kernel level anti-cheat?

>>718696358
Yes
Cheats that bypass that shit

>>718659489
why's the shopkeeper a coomer?

>>718683240
Windows is plug n play since 7. It just gets the drivers from the net automatically. Sure driver installation isn't that hard but still.

>>718692484
>OGL
Does it run with Zink?

>>718693517
long time a go i say zerotier had a gui, needed to be launched as root but it did work. this was 4 years a go so i don't know if anything changed.

So far the only games I can't play are some kernel level anti cheat, which I wasnt playing to begin with. And oblivion remastered which now runs like ass for some reason

>>718697151
Yes, although I don't know why would you run it with Zink unless you're gaming on NVK

Ive been too lazy to look into them wver since I switched, but how are mod heavy games like elder scrolls on linux? My gut instinct tells me theres gonna be problems with SKSE and idk if MO2 is gonna work
Do mod loaders like MO function

I wish more games had native Linux ports. But unfortunately with Proton release developers doesn't see any reason to make them. Nightdive was making native Linux ports but after Proton they just don't do so: their System Shock 2 remaster has SDL3 and Vulkan support yet they refused to port it on Linux.

>>718698123
>but how are mod heavy games like elder scrolls on linux? My gut instinct tells me theres gonna be problems with SKSE and idk if MO2 is gonna work
You use Mod Organizer 2 through SteamTinkerLaunch and everything works. It even creates nxm links handling so you can install mods directly from browser.

>>718697048
My linux system got drivers automatically from the net.

>>718650512 (OP)
I'm not learning how to code to use my computer, I'm just not.
When it's a single button to do everything I want it to, when you just need to click an installer and everything works, when it's an exact copy of windows without the bullshit, then I will use it.

>>718698679
>I'm not learning how to code to use my computer, I'm just not.
very weak penguin energy

>>718691445
>it's no problem
>there's immediately a problem
not an atypical linux experience

>>718669315
>windows
>issue free
yeah if you don't have any standards. You have to strip it the absolute fuck down to get a barely enjoyable experience.

>>718650512 (OP)
ZorinOS is great to just double click and install GOG .exe games the same way you do on Windows. It has wine and everything preconfigured and compatibility is great. It's the only linux option I've seen with a paid variant but the paid version just comes bloated with freeware and different desktop appearances.
BazziteOS is great for gamescope and a SteamDeck-like experience. It boots straight into Steam and has the desktop hidden behind big picture mode. I prefer Bazzite if using a portable/laptop, controller, or for when you don't mind using Steam as the frontend.

I think the kernel should be a flatpack

Don't mind me, just playing ToTK at 1440p 120fps

Not going to complete your stupid puzzles, lmao
Also, the amount of reused content is shocking. They didn't even change forest fog music.

>>718685872
CachyOS

>>718702757
Only right answer

Hundreds of CLI tools
Dozens of unnecessary options for most of them.
Man pages written by autists that just look like gibberish
QT/GTK bullshit, inconsistent themes

Fuck off I ain't typing sudo to open email.

>>718703660
sudo apt-get deez nuts

>>718703774
>not found

Polish jank runs great as well
>>718703612
>Hundreds of CLI tools
good
>Dozens of unnecessary options for most of them.
not enough
>Man pages written by autists that just look like gibberish
filtered
>QT/GTK bullshit, inconsistent themes
Much more consistent that winshit.

>>718667593
Gay nigger, I mod my games on the deck all the time. You're just retarded.

>>718702757
It's great on my deck. Every decky should install it.

>>718704101
Agree
Although I think people at subway aren't really fond of how I mod my game.

>>718650512 (OP)
If Linux is so bad why do you make this thread multiple times a day?

>>718703660
I saw a webm of comparison between opening up a browser between Linux and Windows. Windows was clicking an icon and Linux was a second faster but it involved hacking into the mainframe first. It was hilarious

>>718704204
Same here

>>718704312
Mod+B opens my browser

>>718704312
I... Also just click an icon on my taskbar to open my browser. WTF are you talking about.

How do wincels post on 4tran when typing terrifies them?

>>718704312
I saw a webm of your mom being railed by niggers

>>718657649
in his defense, any real company would have long since applied sensible defaults for the top few programs run.
i shouldn't need to change settings for something so trivial (i say this as a 10+ year linux user)

>>718704690
Title bar is disabled in Firefox and forks by default, this nigger enabled it himself

>>718704449
Literally exactly as I described is what I'm talking about. Idk what kernel/hash/popcorn/French toast version he was using but it was meant to demonstrate Linux speeds when all it did was expose the autism

>>718704882
That's how trannies open browsers. I just hit an icon on my taskbar in my Linux like any winjeet.

>>718704882
The video was about how it's faster to install and launch a browser than just open one on trandows. Obviously understanding basic reasoning is beyond the comprehension of 4tranners like yourself who can't even play trannyeo trames

>>718660045
if you can't do without photoshop why are you in a linux thread? do you also cry about mario not running on ps5?

>>718657678
at this point the only games that don't run on linux are specifically made to not run on linux

>>718705995
okay schizo

>>718706319
Explain why Timmy Tencent actively took Linux support away after buying Rocket League.

>>718650512 (OP)
because linux isn't good for gaming

>>718706548
Proofs?

>>718706440
you're telling me there's someone who knows? did a meeting memo or an insider email get leaked?

no? then you imagined it and think it's real

>>718706548
I agree
Linux is not good for gaming
It's great

>>718707250
You didn't answer me.

>>718650512 (OP)
Appealing to popularity is a logical fallacy. Lots of people listen to rap "music" and eat McDonald's, but that doesn't mean those things are good.

>>718707437
are you just stupid or someting? i certainly answered you.

i said there is not enough data to draw conclusions. and i even gave a few examples of what qualifies as credible information.
blame your genes if you can't figure it out after being told so explicitly, not me.

>>718707702
>claims I am stupid
>can't answer a simple question

>>718707870
>schizo experiencing delusions
wow, who could have predicted it

>>718707948
See
>>718707870

>>718679218
A simple "apt install" terminal command is too much for wintroons on /v/, they aren't editing their registry. Those tranny flags are staying right where bill gates wants them to be.

>>718661747
>bug happened for three days
>bug happened on a single distro
>keep posting about it 10 years later
linux is bad because of this for some reason, do we have a bug compilation for windows?

>>718711010
no idea but if i recall the newest windows patch was frying SSDs

can you guys recommend me some comfy retro games i can run natively or games i can run in the terminal? just want to put something on the second monitor

>>718707693
>Thighs: smothering my dick

>>718650512 (OP)
Anti-cheat, unfortunately. Shit like Valorant, Battlefield 6, Call of Duty won't work on it because they use something they don't want to support Linux with.

>>718651107
Look at different desktop environments, mod them to your liking (KDE notable) or stick to Windows. I don't care.

>>718657649
Being fair to Zoomies: They get filtered by file trees, even on 'Doze.

>>718657892
GTA5 Online doesn't work on Linux, FTR. It "works," but you'll get banned.

>>718658459
>which is not technically possible on Linux
LMAO.

"Technically," it is possible. It's just nobody has done the work because 2-5% marketshare.

i'm lazy and stupid and been using Linux Mint since 2019 as my daily driver without any real issues.

of course i don't try and play kernel level anti-cheat games or anything

>>718713471
FrankerFaceZ has a setting for better portrait mode layouts on twitch. Helps a good bit with optimizing your space

>>718714443
i had frankerfacez for a while but my computer is from 2010 and in extremely busy chats that spammed resulted in the tab shitting the bed occasionally.

>>718650512 (OP)
nerd shit