Thread 718658606

>>718658606 (OP)
Is that... A WOMAN??? In MY videogame??? wtf I HATE women!!!

>>718658606 (OP)
modern? they weren't any better in the past you know

>We need to find someone to play our charismatic villain
>...
>ah fuck it i'll do it myself

>>718658796
I look like this and say this.

Why do americ*n female VAs all do this fake anime voice now? They don’t even succeed at sounding cute at all, it just sounds weird and off. Why not just speak normally?

>dubnigger
You brought this to yourself.

>>718658606 (OP)
When I was a boy there was a kid at school whose mother nearly ripped his left ear off his head and he used to try to fold the ear so we could see where it was put back and it usually opened back up a bit and got blood on his shirt so he ended up having to wear like an eye patch but over his ear but he just took it off anyway and made the ear bleed again

>>718658992
because vtubers are popular

>>718658606 (OP)
>japanese voice """acting"""

>>718658852
Not a VA but Eli Vance's facemodel is unironically that. They never even asked him his name. That old nigga probably froze to death over a decade ago

>>718659060
OP's pic is the epitome of Japanese female voices though.

Depends. I just really hate the wannabe high pitched and the trying so hard to be a dommy mommy voices. Those legit make me wish I was deaf

>>718659169
erm racism much?

>>718658992
They usually have "fat voice" as well. A dorm mate from Pakistan pointed out the concept of "fat voice" to me and now I can't unhear it in tubs of absolute lard.

>>718658606 (OP)
>modern
>third wave
>western
>karen
>white

>>718659235
you are a weak person who allows himself to be troubled by frivolities

>>718658606 (OP)
>actress
>male

>>718658606 (OP)
it's because of the anime uwu voice isn't it

>>718659320
That means literally nothing coming from a /v/tard

>>718659293
you got all the way to college without conceiving of fat voice? are you actually retarded?

>>718659354
you should take it to heart and become a better person instead of reflexively lashing out

>>718659426
>become a better person
No thanks. Especially if it's this site's interpretation of what a "good person" is

>>718658606 (OP)
>english va
yuck!

incels are critical of women? shocking

>>718659515
japanese voice actors only sound better because you don't speak japanese

>>718658726
>*sad* kurwa
>>718658606 (OP)
>play Per Aspergers
>story has a turnaround point where everyone is after you but all of a sudden girlpowering girl decides to trust you out of nowhere and it's not even done in a half believable way of her distrusting what the other party says about you
>the PC is voiced by what I can only imagine is the voice actress Homeworld 3 but bass boosted
>Ears nearly bleeding by the time I'm finished with the game
I forgot about /v/ game recommendations.

>>718659515
Dubs from the early 2000s voiced by nobodies has better voice acting than modern dubs.

>>718659293
fat voice is so gross

>>718659630
t. high pitched voicelet

>>718659564
for certain voices I would agree, it's somewhat like a magic trick. For others the VA is just so out of their league it's just impossible to listen to

>>718659681
go on a diet you cow

>>718659498
legit question why english dub sound so fucking bad?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6KCk2cN7xyI

>>718659719
go on testosterone maybe you will eventually sound like a man

>>718659564
I studied a good amount of Japanese and can listen quite well for myself. I can absolute hear the emotion in their words during dramatic scenes.
English voice actors pretend they are on a playground while Japanese voice actors become the character they are supposed to be playing. There's a world of difference.

>>718659823
you are fat

>>718658606 (OP)
there is nothing more ear bleeding than
>anime voice
>wanna be strong woman (like Valkyrie-Apex)

and fuckers been doing this for 10 years now, WHAT HAPPENED TO OLD GEN VOICE ACTRESS?

>>718658898
The funniest part is he aged pretty well as the series went on so it only added to the he is kane thing.

>>718659367
To be honest I'm from a country with next to no fat people back then. I'm also retarded as well.

>>718659564
No
>>718659681
Fat voice isn't deep voice stupid lard

>>718659880
you are not a real man

>>718659564
No, it's because most jap VAs actually put some effort into their work.

>>718659959
cope lol

>>718659797
that portuguese one is on part with english voice acting today

>>718659958
another high pitched voicelet enraged

>>718658606 (OP)
>SUBhuman weebs thought reading text on screen makes them superior

>>718660038
JIGGLE SANDWICH

>>718658796
Nice try 1pbtid, but it's a nepo hire who's terrible at her job. Try to keep up.

>>718658606 (OP)
>English dub

why do all have that horrifying inflection and vocal fry, why can't they just talk like a normal person?

>>718660247
they don't, you're just a retard and you hate women because they rightfully don't like you

>>718660297
go back to sucking cock for your onlyfans you dumb slut

>>718659515
frieren dub is hot as fuck

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3BoNsdziVc
>amerishits will defend this shit

>>718659959
You are obese

>>718660360
go back to women never wanting anything to do with you for the rest of your existence

>>718660247
If you hate vocal fry never go to Finland. 95% of them have it on 100% of the time.
https://youtu.be/Q0yL2GezneU?t=979

>character has a nasal voice
>WTF why does this character sound so annoying
>check the voice actor
>it's a tranny

>>718660393
she sound like a fat "woman"

>>718660415
Fat

>>718660393
holy fuck that's bad

>>718660390
it's awful and completely changes her character

>>718660415
I'm imagining you voicing this line in your hideous vocal fry fat girl tumblr voice and laughing heartily

>>718660247
The american voice actor industry is completely inbred, they're all just aping each others' anime voice in addition to being influenced by vtubers. There's a reason some directors go for british VAs only.

>>718660458
you mean improve

>>718660390
No it's not. She looks young and is supposed to sound young but tired. The EN voice completely clashes with that.

oh is it not as good as your japanese childrens cartoons? oh poor fussy babies

>completely unknown theatre actors voice acting
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3ZbmCLmgaU

>>718660505
no it changes her into a mother-like figure which isn't her character at all. just awful

>>718660548
>dublet being retarded

But I repeat myself.

>>718660473
no woman is ever imagining you at all, you are invisible and disposable to them

>>718660548
tranny post.

>>718660589
thats exactly her character you retard

>>718660623
dispose of this *unzips dick*

>>718658726
>>718658852
Jokes aside I wouldn't have a problem with that, what I dislike is this modern genre of voice acting that sounds so strangely sterile and almost surgically delivered, not in a emotionless way but in a "I am a voice actor/actress and I will pronounce everything clearly and nicely and my voice is inoffensive and lacks any character". Take pedestrians in nu-Hitman or Jedi Survivor as examples of what I mean.

I hate the limited amount of VAs in German dubs. Like there is always one girl, who sounds like a rude brat with a really annoying voice.

>>718660623
I'd tell you to show tits, but then that would mean you'd show your fatass on camera no thanks.

it would be beneficial to euthanize any human who has a strong opinion on western vs japanese voice acting

imagine how much better the world would be if women couldn't talk

>>718660664
>le elf with no children, never been in a relationship and has only touched humanity for a very brief time she's been alive is actually a mother figure!!!
she's actually very immature and undisciplined, outside of magic she doesn't teach Fern anything a mother would. Their relationship is student and master not mother and daughter.

>>718660746
I swear we have only like 2 female german dub voices and they are fucking everywhere. And the guys who voiced Dieter in Werner and Captain Blaubär.

>>718660679
Their delivery is often severe for no reason and almost all of them use a fake anime voice.

In other words they provide a voice, but no acting.

I'll just leave this here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ci8dIpNcyEY

>>718660746
I basically clocked out of German VA like a decade ago (probably even more) and even if I happen to catch an ad in German nowadays, it's still just as bad.
Like, what the hell.

>>718660760
you'd drag your dick through a mile of broken glass for a shred of attention from a 2/10 woman

>>718659293
>They usually have "fat voice" as well.
whats a fat voice. give examples

>>718660679
It's mostly shitty voice actors trying to both justify their job and stand out with their "performance" and the only tool they have is their voice so they try way too hard and sound like shit. The equivalent of a stage actor that won't stop wildly gesticulating for every single line or a child trying to be the best singer in a chorus.

>>718660891
these disgusting retards
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mlElu4AiWk

>>718660871
Nah, my wife is just fine. She is pretty and skinny unlike you, fatty.

>>718660842
>every (AMERICAN) game dub ever

>>718660891
Have you ever watched that Bioware interview with Jennifer Hepler? That's fat girl voice

>>718660842
kek, they really aced it

>>718660820
Yeah, I don't know what's going on with our VAs, but their business seems to be very incestuos.

>>718660845
Kingdom Come's German dub is fantastic though. It's vastly superior to the English dub and actually fits the history of the era. I wouldn't completely give up on it.

>>718660891
I looked up "fat voice" and got multiple oneyplays compilations

>>718660842
this dude is great
https://www.instagram.com/p/DNiv3dVOOE7/

>>718658726

can be kino

>>718660842
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvwKkeqT1yk

>>718660820
kek true
I watched immoral guild recently and they put literally all the big female anime VAs in it next to a new guy who did a decent job
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TO0gh2ym4r0

SPHEEEEEN LISTEN TO ME

>>718659564
Nip VAs at least tend to sound like their characters a bit. Dubs often sound like the people involved didn't even know who they were voicing.

>>718661432
It's very hard to do voices that aren't your voice, don't be a h8er

>>718658606 (OP)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQ_FSVWR6ZE
>b-but things were better in MY day

>>718661496
SPHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEN

>>718661543
I like that they "fixed" it and it was just as bad so they just turned the music up

>>718661452
The huge gatekeeping in western VA careers don't help either.

>>718661593
Kek, you can't polish a turd, they tried though.

>low budget game gets critically acclaimed actors to voice silly goofy ahhh characters
I want to go back so bad /v/ros

>>718661667
The other bitch in the scene lucked out, nobody notices that actually they both sounded shit because one was worse

>>718660664
excuse me anon you called me a retard but then didn't reply to my post in which i posted a legitimate retort to your argument
if you don't reply I must insist that you are in fact the retard in this situation

>>718661715
>ahh
go back

Are there any good examples of modern VA's?

>>718661425
>0:23
Oh, it's THAT one again. I'm sure she's been around for like 30 years, how does she still sound the same?
>0:32
That one, too, is fucking ancient. Where's the new blood?

>>718659564
trvth nvke

>>718659867
this you, nigga?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvh2v_dMJvA

>>718658726
Worked for Warframe til they got big, now one of their first voice actors/interns runs the fucking company lmao.
>pic related

>>718662662
NICK GURS

>>718662125
don't remember a single line of dialogue out of hades desu and i didn't even dislike the game
it's just a giant uninteresting word salad

>>718662827
i remember Hades sounds like a poof

>>718662827
same i just mashed through all the dialogue. dont care for the character designs either at all. i only cared about the meat and potatoes of the gameplay.

>>718658726
Nothing wrong with that.
Also, forced meme.

>>718659564
between high pitched piercing "cute" jap jibberish with subtitles and high pitched piercing "cute" eng jibberish meanwhile forcing myself to make up what the FUCK is she talking about i'll choose first

> American voice "actor"
> Only can do generic anime voice #134672
Yawn

>>718663019
PAIMON SEXXO

>>718662662
why are women like this so attractive

>>718663094
(You) have an oedipus complex

>>718660891
Project melody

>>718663094
>why is a conventionally attractive woman.... attractive
a question for the ages

>>718658606 (OP)
>>718659169
fuck both. I want more indie games with absolutely no voice acting like Intravenous so I can make up their voices in my head and use my imagination.
(I personally imagine them all sounding british because it's funnier that way)

>>718663019
Paimon English va sounds like a 40 year old woman.

>>718662028
there was nothing to argue, you basically agreed with me and Im no guy to beat a downed man
sure she has her quirks but through the story she is basically teaching fern, stark and the side character of the week something or takes care of them like a teacher/ master/ mentor or like a mother which she isnt but its her biggest regreat since episode one
I dont know what to argue here really because she has a mature and calm voice in EVERY dub, japanese included
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOMwfN4Fj3g

>>718661407
kek

>>718663286
idk which one you mean since old VA was fired, her speak was ear piercing and awful

>>718663168
probably because i had older girls fawn over me as a young kid and kissed them lots... wait a minute

>>718663094
You are (may god have mercy on your soul) straight.

>>718662125
Zagreus does have a cool voice but I can kind of hear the VA's inexperience. He does a good job with giving him a proper voice but his delivery doesn't register enough. There are noticeable flat spots.

>>718663440
The old one. She’s also an example of fat voice.

>>718663326
>posts a webm of the character who has to do the mediation because Frieren is too detached from humanity to do it

you're a disgusting faggot

>>718662125
>this singular man ends up voicing half the fucking cast
>he still does each unique voice well

>>718663472
being a straight man attracted to adult women on /v/ is like being a homosexual in aleppo

>>718658606 (OP)
>[anime grunt]

>>718662217
>Where's the new blood?
really good question, maybe its just not worth doing or hard to get into
both of them have been in the industry for over 20 years what you expect of course you know them

>>718663572
I played the demo for FF7 remake and I tried both dubs.
For some reason the english VA added a shit ton of random grunts where there were none.
Like when cloud jumps out of the train, he does this retarded grunt that just isn't there in the jap version.
I have no idea what the fuck is up with that shit, it was awful.
I don't know if it continued on the full game cause I dropped that shit lol

>>718662217
>>718663632
>where's the new blood?
SAG-AFTRA, if you recall, required $3000 signups and exclusivity contracts n shit, and paid dues. If you didn't do all the shit SAG wanted, you wouldn't get work.
Now SAG's dying due to its own hubris, you should begin to seen a wider range (hopefully) of VAs in coming years.

>>718663670
it titillates the 99% woman and gay male fanbase of FF

>>718663720
that explains why only the male characters do this.

>>718658796
No arrow therefore you look like that and say that

>>718663670
NNNGH ASSHOLE

>>718663491
so fucking what? even here she treats him as her kid and pats his head and says good boy
who fucking does something like that? your teacher? get the PTA involved right fucking now for you special ed school you fucking retard

>>718658606 (OP)
>Californian union hire tries to do a fancy British accent

>>718662125
that's neat

>>718664179
>who fucking does something like that?
Condescending bitches.
Not mothers.

Is old school pure text to speech better?
I kind of like the voices in SPAZ and even in SPAZ2 I switched them back to the TTS from human because the humans were fucking terrible but I could see how it'd get real old real fast if it was standard in the industry.

>new Dawn of War trailer
>Steve Blum
god bless him

It's not just the voices but the words themselves, western games insert too much trendy 21st century twitter vernacular in games where it doesn't belong

>>718664443
see>>718664425
I never realized he voiced like half the units and generals in Zero Hour. The man has actual range, i just dont get why so many games dont let him use it.

>>718658606 (OP)
>voice acting
fix'd

>Japanese release has full voice acting
>English release deleted all voice acting

>>718664468
weebshit does the same. one thing ive also noticed is that weebshit loves to do this retarded thing where they insert american regional accented style speech like "yer" instead of "your" and apostrophes into words like e.g. "cookin'" etc. its fucking atrocious.

>>718663710
Is SAG-AFTRA even a thing in germany? I thought it only operates in the US.

subs = born before 2000
dubs = born after 2000

subs = >100 IQ
dubs = <100 IQ

>>718658606 (OP)
woke lamat was so bad it killed the game

>>718663929
Nooooooooo

>>718659515
I prefer the JJBA OVA dub over the original because it sounds much funnier

>>718659293
>>718659630
John Goodman and John Belushi had charming voices

>>718665778
Coombrain

>>718665778
Clem a cute.

>>718658606 (OP)
>Modern Voice Actors
english especially are all fucking shit
let AI take over

>>718658606 (OP)
>american voice actress

>>718665778
>singlehandedly killed the western fanbase

>>718658606 (OP)
>dub
retard

>>718658726
For me it's when it comes to singing, like whrn Melty Blood's opening was sung by Raito who was only brought in to compose

Seriously, though, why does English voice acting suck so much? It's a lot better than what's in my country (VAs who can't even act and only do it for money), but it still feels kinda disingenuous, especially in anime and Japanese games. It's like they're scared to go all out at times, even when the scene demands it.

>>718663094
Listen kid, being gay is going to be an uphill battle

>>718666893
forgot image

>>718658726
Warioware cast was better that way.
>but muh fully voiced cutscenes they obviously couldn't handle!
Didn't need them.

>>718658606 (OP)
>actress
Made up word. The profession is actor. There is no such thing as an "actress". You don't say doctress. You don't say dentress. You don't say pilotress. You don't say chief executive officress. You don't say chefress. You don't say Teachress. The word is fucking ACTOR. Fuck the French.

>>718659564
I speak japanese and japanese is objectively better

>>718660417
I'm finnish and I have very noticeable, unavoidable and constant vocal fry due to larynx structure
A lot of other people I know also have this issue
Might be why it's become standardised in the language but there's not any real studies I can find regarding it

why so many seething tards ITT?

>>718667289
Reddit tier mental illness right there.

>>718667817
Jap voice acting is only better when you're consuming some anime bullshit that requires anime bullshit voice acting which only retards consume. When the superior western games are dubbed into Japanese it's vastly inferior.

>AI voices using old games voice acting as basis
A NEW CYBER AGE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vy1h5dSEhlI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDsUb7wVCrw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CNxgL5pUIo

>>718661425
why wasn't Immoral Guild ever dubbed into English? it's such a good anime with quality production (for a harem ecchi / isekai). Is it because it was too uncensored/erotic? or is it because of something like the lolis or whatever. I doubt the anime wasn't a success

>>718660664
most intelligent dubtard

I'm currently watching Dragon Ball Kai dubbed (70 episodes in). and the dub is fucking excellent. The voice actors deliver their lines perfectly. The script is perfect. I can literally immerse myself in the dialogue and forget this was a Japanese product to begin with.

This is why reading this thread doesn't feel real to me. Complaining about dubs as if they cause ear bleedings when that's simply not close to being true.

>>718660664
>retarded dubnigger missed the part where Fern is literally the mom in the relationship

>>718668691
ecchi dubs are kind of rare and funny enough for germans it seems to be the opposite
they even dubbed this kino

>>718658726
It can work and make for some memorable characters
>Alien race that almost enslaved and killed all sentient life sounds like a random guy from the midwest

>>718665778
>Kneel Petersuck

>tfw I always feel like a turbo-chad for not watching and arguing about gay shit like Frieren
>tfw I don't watch the newest trendiest gay anime that will be forgotten as fast as it trended
>tfw haven't watched any anime since Covid lockdown
>tfw haven't watched anime in years
>tfw I don't watch anime

damn it feels great to be a turbo-gigaChad

>>718668691
dub actors break down when they see an animated nipple.

>>718661363
Terri Brosius was already an established vocalist in Tribe, which ia probably why shodan isn't as laughably amatuerish as Diego

>>718663485
apparently they will work the new actress like a slave until she replaces all lines in the game
i might start a new account in english if that happens

>>718669649
Last thing I watched was the last season of Non Non Biyori, being the Überchad that I am.
Just haven't been interested in anything since

>>718660390
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3BoNsdziVc

>>718658606 (OP)
opposed to... outdated voice actress?

>>718658992
>>718659515
Only time I have a problem with american/english voice actors are when I play games dubbed.
The voice acting in RDR, E33, Baldurs Gate, GoW, Warhammer, Assassin's Creed and GTA is amazing which leads me to believe this is likely a problem with jap writing and not american VAs specifically.

>>718659515
Fuck off, weeb

>>718669925
this guy was totally "im acting!!!" tier. sucks compared to the peak kino that is DeS voice acting
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0TJ5-XFctE

>>718669925
VAs in dark souls are so fucking basic, yet they MOGG the shit out of modern day VAs

>>718670193
dubs from other countries sound natural, it's only the americans who make it sound retarded like that

>>718659515
Frieren is better dubbed than subbed.

>>718663670
>>718663720
I'll anime grunt all day into your arse, no reach around though.

>>718670657
>naturalistic shakespearian theatre acting is "basic" according to weebtroons
its so fucking tiresome sharing a board with you people
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MhqcI5MUl6g

>>718665778
For comparison, Japanese vs American dubbing.
Character is supposed to be a princess and it's voiced in Japanese by a chick. It's voiced in English by an American dude who thinks calling himself a chick makes him a chick, he doesn't even go through the effort to shave or cross dress.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnP4LQhYTvQ

>>718670657
>speaking like a normal person instead of going EHHHHHHHHHHHH Y-YOU DEFEATED RADAHN??? SUGOI DESUNE!!!! is "basic" now

>>718665778
>make your main character of your mmo expac a troon
>bleed players left and right
>lose 2.9 billion yen

I expected XIV to falloff after Endwalker but I didn't think it be this fast

>>718670508
That guy voiced Gaius Van Balesar in FF14, he was amazing. He was in Game of Thrones.

>>718671080
>speaking like a normal person is basic
Yes? Do you not do that every single day with ease?

>>718670883
thats the dialogue you fucking retard, and its great
im talking voice acting

>>718670657
I think it helps that there's a wide range of accents beyond what burger ears are used to with 'posh' and 'cockney'

Pic related, I could name on one hand the number of Welsh accents in vidya

>>718671289
You'd think otherwise based on the way japanese vas act

>>718670193
It's just a matter of priorities and the type of game.
English first game->The budget (which is generally higher) goes to english voice actors. Other languages usually suck.
Japanese first game->The budget goes to the japanese voice actors. Other languages suck.
Also, western games->usually realistic and mo cap, easier to perform
Japanese games->usually cartoon, need to over do it a bit to compensate the lack of facial expression.
To add to that, there tends to be desire to appropriate the japanese games, transforming their scripts into the ones american cartoons would have, and a different voice direction that is "better" for americans.

>>718659295
... Is that a patamon wojack ?

>>718671413
what the fuck are you saying you fucking retard? is dialogue not voice acting???

>>718658606 (OP)
OP pic is me when I play any Japanese anime voice acting themed game like Persona, Final Fantasy, Xenoblade, etc. Just some of the worst type of voice acting to ever exist

>>718659515
>watching dubs
>at 2x speed
>and having it playing on the background while doing something else

The modern zoomer anime experience.

>>718671461
Having spoken several sentences of broken japanese in a row to them I can say that is how japs respond

>>718671550
No. Do you think the voice actors are in the booth ad-libbing their lines? The script is not the performance.

>>718671753
obviously nobody is talking about the script. the thread is about performance. the voice acting sucks in elden ring and is peak in DeS and DS1 despite the writing style being similar.

>>718660842
never gets old

>>718658606 (OP)
You really don't know how well we got it nowadays

>>718658606 (OP)
>All english 'voice acting'

>>718671870
i dont play weebshit visual novels

>>718671753
Retard

>>718658796
The problem isn't that she's a woman.
The problem is that she sounds identical to every other talentless cunt from california that speaks exactly the same with the same inflection in all delivery.
Forspoken is the number 1 example of what I am talking about. They somehow managed to make a black woman from the ghetto of New York sound identical to every other awful californian white woman. It's so glaringly fake and unpleasant to listen to that only a stupid woman could defend it.

This generic cunt voice has completely destroyed female video game characters. Every single one sounds so fake and flat. Like they are talking down to children as they deliver lines. It's an actual epidemic.
Pauline from DK bananza drives my point home completely. Absolutely repugnant character voice that completely ruins the game.

>>718671937
Begone, retard tourist-kun

>>718672005
indeed. you may leave now.

>>718671838
>the voice acting sucks in elden ring and is peak in DeS and DS1 despite the writing style being similar
Explain why the voice acting in ER "sucks"

>>718660937
>a child trying to be the best singer in a chorus.
I quit DK Bananza because of MMMM-WOAHOAHOOOHH every time you unsealed one of those gold thingies.

You have unsalvageably shit taste if you put up with that awful trash voice.

>>718658606 (OP)
>Polish voice actors

>>718659515
I stick with dubs in anime and games. The one time I ever switched to Japanese was trials of mana.

>>718671928
Correct, I'm not playing a Warhammer 40k game with any other language.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1IaMSz8AFk

>>718661715
Say the word ass or get the fuck out of here, you dumb FUCKING NIGGER FAGGOT.

>>718670657
Because they use British VAs, not americans

>voice acting
>dialogues
>story
>in a video game

>>718671838
>obviously nobody is talking about the script
That is literally what "the dialogue" is referring to. The words and how they are written which is not the voice acting.

>>718672227
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFDXdBCdnWE

>>718658726

Soul.
Stronghold still has some of the funniest voice acting ever, and that was one guy doingbalmost everyone, including women.

>>718672328
Yes Grandad, it's not 1975 anymore we can have voice acting in our games now.

>>718663094
Because there's a statistically higher chance they are just as racist as you.

>>718671470
Japanese dubs are always good

>>718672337
you fucking said "dark souls VA's are so basic" implying youre talking about performance? are you insanely severely autistic? why cant you just have a conversation with me like a normal person without sperging the fuck out?

>>718672175
I would argue you have unsalvagably shit taste if you got Bananza at all

https://youtu.be/un5gJ5pDdVE?si=c6yGI6aEx6iJ_5Vf&t=2867
(47:46)

What do you mean man this sounds beautiful?

>>718666340
Pathetic feminist vermin

>>718672453
>>718672279

>>718672410
And the footage posted to rebut that claim relies on the strength of the lines as they're written moreso than the ability of the actor delivering them
I'm not even the one who made that claim, I just pointed out that the dialogue is not the voice acting as it's mentioned in that post

>>718668034
Women are retarded and think they are a hivemind when a man criticizes any woman so they act like you are personally attacking them and cry about the incel boogeyman.

>>718672628
Grandma, it's time you went to sleep your dementia is kicking in/

>>718658992
Americans can’t do cute female voices because they are all 40+ year old women trying to sound 15. It’s been this way since anime dubs first started. See Haruhi and Wendee Lee.

>>718660501
>british VA
Everyone need to do this, I hate the british but they're pretty good

>>718672674
jesus christ fuck you anal retentive retards. im out of here. no point in discussing shit with you guys

>>718659517
Projecting.

>>718672625
That's not a dub, you stupid nigger.

>>718672227
They can be a bit repetitive because the pool is not that large and they draw on TV actors and shit so it's funny to recognise them from outside gaming.
I don't really play games dubbed anymore outside of nostalgia now though.

>>718660393
>all that glazing I'm the comments
feh

>>718669649
I've been coming to 4chan since 2005 and "watches anime" has universally been the number 1 sign of shit taste every year I have come here. Weebs are always smug cunts with the IQ of an amoeba every single time.
You can expect weebs to believe certain things and they will prove it if you care to investigate.

Briana is good though

>>718659564
No, they sound better because they don't sound like bored commiefornicunts.

>>718672893
You know what else isn't a dub? Your virginity card ever getting revoked.

>>718672426
I didn't purchase it.

>>718658606 (OP)
Have you guys litened to the VA for the girl in pragmata? It sounds cringe as fuck like a white girl trying to sound "anime".
Im playing that shit in japanese

>>718668075
Because japs don't give a fuck about western games.

>>718673084
Who?

>>718670193
>RDR
I dont know about others, but werent both John and Arthur VA literally whos?

>>718670657
Because they are actual actors.

>>718658606 (OP)
Yeah I don't consume any american media anymore, or games that use american voice "actors".

>>718673183
Best Jap games have amazing English dubbing, so what are you trying to argue here?

>>718669226
Is the Kai dub the one on Nicktoons? Because that was the DBZ I watched when I was a kid.

>>718672328
>>718672628
>>718673284
How many gifs of laughing old women do you have anon?

>>718673216
nu ff7 aerith

>>718658606 (OP)
>Buy Dragonball Sparking Zero
>Play in English due to nostalgia for BT3
>Literally everyone sounds tired and old

>>718673284
Grandma your dementia is starting to worry me now

>>718667817
Case in point
https://youtu.be/8BNhV2Gcq1g

>>718673119
>Your virginity card ever getting revoked.
I'm not a virgin like you, I went to have sex with hookers. Your mother sends her regards btw

>>718673454
yeah it looks like it. But I can't confirm 100% because I pirated the episodes and I'm not watching them on TV. I'm just marathoning them on my PC

>>718673685
You shagged my dead mother? Then again fucking a corpse is the only way you can prevent a girl from saying "no".

>>718673178
Anime VAs have forgotten what real children sound like and think that they sound Pokémon characters

>>718673608
when does it become the right time for a new younger person to be cast? Apparently Frieza english VA remained as Frieza's VA until his death. and now a younger guy that sounds just like him is the new VA.

what's frustrating to me the most is Android 18's new voice. It fucking sucks. Her old voice was perfect I don't know why great VAs are always replaced when they still haven't dropped the gig.

>>718669226
>DB english dub
>excellent

>>718673914
IIRC the Kai from Nicktoons censored all the blood. Notably the scene where Frieza gets cut into two.
But yeah, I agree the acting for Kai was pretty good.

>>718673918
>is the only way you can prevent a girl from saying "no"
You forgot about money

>>718673372
No they don't.

>>718658796
BASED

>>718674391
You have fallen into my trap.
Elden Ring and the Souls/ Bloodborne games all Jap games all with English dubbing, all of them.
Get fucked.

>>718658726
shit like this is how you end up with a dub like SH2/3 and those were fine

>>718674491
And the voice acting is all terrible in them.

>>718659293
FUCK I thought I was the only one who knew what “fat voice” meant. I’ve described it too others before and they didn’t get it. I feel incredibly vindicated right now

>>718670193
>Baldurs Gate
Don't know about the others but that one is the very definition of forced overacting
>>718672794
Japan has 60+ grannies voicing 10 year olds, age's not the problem here

>>718674632
>I'd rather double down on being a retard than admit to being wrong.
We know.

>>718659564
Japanese voice actors sound better because Americans are THAT bad

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ci8dIpNcyEY&t=8s

>>718674812
weak bait

>>718658726
i didnt know that could happen to a beaver

There's bad voice acting and then theres so bad its kino.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AmnVHIvOQEw

>>718674726
only fat people dont know what fat voice is because they themselves have fat voice and its all they know.

>>718674156
Z
>I will not forget what you did to my best friend Frieza. You took from him what no one has the right to take! Life! I wont let your sacrifice be in vain Krillin. I can still see the look on your face. He had no right...

Kai
>Krillin can't be brought back to life with the dragon balls a second time! and I refuse to take the death of my best friend setting down! he was a good man. one of the bravest I've ever known. The fate this bastard dealt him was the last thing he deserved!

Kai's dub is perfect. the dialogue doesn't have any mistakes

>>718674223
the one I'm watching is uncensored. probably from the blurays

There's a ton of good ones actually
https://youtu.be/OzDaLJXxvy0
https://youtu.be/3dDk58b7Ju8?t=169
https://youtu.be/qyQY0YUDcC8
https://youtu.be/_hOPE5bee_o?t=848

>>718675373
>>718674156
the delivery of the lines too. it's bad in Z but great in Kai:
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/mqbI0CjgUX0

>>718675604
Yeah we know there are good ones, it's already been posted. Jap games don't have to equate to mean anime games you realise that?

>>718658992
The only westoid voice actress that actually sounded cute-ish to me was Laura Bailey in Persona 4 and Catherine. I'm an ESL however so maybe I just don't have the ear to hear what sounds odd to natives, though.

>>718675912
On a second thought, Karen Strassman deserves a shoutout too as Aigis and Nanako.

>Hi I'm voice actor and this is me recording right up in front of the mic listen to my mouth noises
Hades is dreadful how do people listen to this without going insane

>>718674156

I'm western yuro, but I gotta admit the Mexican dub is pretty good.

>>718676286
Also known as Bastion syndrome.

>>718676286
It's a deliberate direction choice and one that I personally enjoy. There's a lot of dialogue in the game, so having the characters speak in a more whispery and calmer tone helps them not be as tiring to listen to.
In fact I could listen to this bitch talk all day. Her voice is so pleasing.

>>718658606 (OP)
remove sag fags from it, use AI voices instead
Or, make people read

>>718658796
HOLY BASED

>>718674812
Japanese will have a mix of young and old VAs, while in America they’re ALL grannies

>>718662662
>shaking milkers
HHNNNNGGGGGGG
I bet she'd make a meanest jerk off with a disinterested face, then briefly smile and send you away

>>718661079
>Kingdom Come's German dub is fantastic
second game or first?
Also I liked the Bioshock dubs

>>718658606 (OP)
some of the worst dogshit audio i've seen come out of a """"remaster"" in years.. capcom can't do VA's worth a fuck https://youtu.be/tZCxqrRD-d0?t=69

>>718678038
I only played the first. I held off from playing the sequel, because it seemed very woke compared to the first for some reason.

>>718678935
i mean it has literal homos if i'm not mistaken. but i was willing to look past that maybe.

>>718679117
I am not looking past that. It honestly makes me not want to finish KCD I. I already felt like I got most of what I want out of the game anyway.

Make way for the greatest dub ever
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ve-SiqRYLXM
Unironically we must RETVRN

One of the few mediocre japanese voice acting I've heard was the PS2 port of Ys VI, it's super monotone. There's also Ai Iijima's "super" performance at 10101 WILL The Starship (a notorious PS1 kusoge)
https://youtu.be/P-VJl4tJrBk?t=1109
But those are outliers.

>>718658606 (OP)
American female voices in general

>>718658606 (OP)
>french voice acting
They somehow get the gayest Parisians to voice everything, movies dubbed in French are completely unwatchable, it got even worse over the past decade as you can sometimes hear the nafri and negro inflections, fucking vile.

>>718659797
>portuguese

>>718658606 (OP)
the goat

>>718658606 (OP)
>>718658992
women's voices are so boring and bland that they're forced to do this gay shit

>>718662662
womana

>>718678935
I think the actual wokeness of the game is overstated, but people feel betaryed that vavra went from muh historical accuracy chud /ourguy/ to defending putting niggers and fags in the sequel on twitter. Also in general how weird is that how staunchly he was against it back then but than jumped on it when it was already going of out favour.
I thought this didn't happen anymore because of the internet but it seems that trends show up in slavlands on a delay still.

>>718680735
>I thought this didn't happen anymore because of the internet but it seems that trends show up in slavlands on a delay still.
That and the fact that game development takes many years, so when the game comes out, if might follow social trends and feds, which are no longer popular. He really bet on the wrong horse.

>>718658606 (OP)
you anons bitch all you want, YOU NEVER faced true horror
I was playing borderlands the other day, and I kid you not, it had indian voice acting

>>718680735
its actually understated how woke the game really is blacks, homos, jews, gypsies, refugees, cumans and worst of them all w*men
this game is woke as fuck and has garbage writing on top of it

>>718665778
>ARR, American VAs
Overall low quality, VAs kicked and replaced
>HW, English VAs
Zero issues
>SB, English VAs
Zero issues
>ShB, English VAs
Zero issues
>EW, English VAs
Zero issues
>DT, let's try American VAs again
Immediate shitshow

>>718662662
Post the webm of her zonked out of her mind while flashing her tits

>>718659564
Americans have no economic incentive to be good at their jobs while the Japanese do in spite of their inferior economy.

>>718681175
That makes sense but still. He got a lot of eyes on the project by getting himself into the whole GG debate but decided that the woke will be the ascendant power after all even those he was on opposite side? Though to be fair maybe in 2016 it felt like it would, but I think he should have known him turning coat wouldn't be accepted anyway.
Was either of those his genuine belief, did he actually change his mind in the meantime, I don't really know.

>>718673664
>the goys is just anime but live action
really makes you think

>>718658606 (OP)
more like ANY english VA

>>718663094
>why are women like this so attractive
Peak mommy aesthetic

The Japanese have a pedigree for having their 40 year old women voice act for teenage characters for at least a couple decades more professionally than ENG dub VAs who are the lowest of the low in the english voice acting totem pole.
Voice Acting in the west is so looked down on that movie actors are replacing VAs while VAs in Japan are still an entire industry with academies and agencies.

>>718675249
...is bread soup supposed to be weird? I always ate it as a kid.

>>718679907
I like Cyril Monge.

>>718675249
I actually like this

>>718660393
JESUS

>>718671128
It wasn't just the trannyshit that was a problem, it was that Woke Lameass was also a genuine Poochie.

>>718681328
>%2F
nice soundpost, retard

>>718660393
That sounds fine to me.

>>718675249
>KEEEEEEEEE-YAAAAAAAAA

>>718658606 (OP)
>modern voice actress only does a sassy black british accent

>>718660393
Why does the cute little flat elf girl sound like a 40 year old woman?

>>718683946
disregard, am retarded. just a catbox blip

>>718675249
is she supposed to be a super autismo? if so then this voice fits

>>718660393
they should bring LTG to voice her
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iq7gRSW2GD0

>>718660393
God that's terrible

>>718660393
Sex

>all the complaining uses dubs of weebshit to "prove" their point
No one cares about dubbing weebshit, weeb. The actors don't try and the directors don't try to get them to. Of course it sounds bad.

The minute you take VAs who were stuck in anime dub hell and give them a native English role, suddenly you find oh, actually, they're pretty good.

You okay gramps?

>>718658606 (OP)
Modern EN VAs are infinitely better than 99% of older ones.

>>718687001
>one set of turds is less smelly than another set of turds

>>718681413
AHHHHHHH Anons hold me!!! I can't bear this horror!!!

>>718685439
If the VAs are incapable of treating anime dubs the way they treat their other jobs then that is 100% on them and is a huge flaw. If they're so good in other works then just do anime dubs like they do those.

>>718658606 (OP)
Having to hear a black person with a british accent tarnishes any experience for me.

>>718658606 (OP)
What's ze matter big guy? You don't like the chainsmoking valley girl voice?

>>718685439
>>718687001
Explain Ada and Hinako

>>718658606 (OP)
me when I kept seeing Nikke ads on youtube where all the female english dub voices sound the same

>>718689357
Literally only brownoids do

>>718688918
I don't see why you're listening to Asian games in English anyway. You should be listening to them in Japanese, Korean and Mandarin, depending on where it's from.

She's not going to play Ninja Gaiden or troon ops

>>718659515
To be fair, that's probably only on Netflix.

>>718689601
And SEAniggers

>>718660393
porn voice

>>718689907
Those are included in brownoid

>>718659564
People always say this but even if that's the case it would still make more sense to listen to something you find less bad.

>>718668075
No shit retard all dubs are trash.

>>718690110
>People

>>718658726
>only have a single female in the entire dev team
>use her to voice all the female characters
sometimes it actually works out great

>>718690849
Rare had some serious talent at their office. I liked the voices for all the guards in Perfect Dark and the institute NPCs, and it seems they were done by random employees.

>>718685439
the thing is.. their point is not proven, but rather the opposite
American voice actors can't act for shit

>>718660393
if you dislike this you are gay simple as

>>718691984
You've never felt the touch of a woman, sukdeep

>>718689654
I never said I do.

>>718691878
Yes they can, you're just asserting otherwise because you don't want it to be true. It's completely non-serious to try to argue Americans can't act, that's lunacy.

>>718673664
this is fucking ass

>>718658992
Because they have literally no training as an actor. They simply emulate the amateur performances they grew up with. Anime/Video game VAing is basically the lowest paying gig an actor can have. That guy on Law and Order who's only line is "yes, sir" gets paid significantly more than voicing a main character in a 90 hour does. Background actors in commercials that work 2 hours for one day get comparable pay. It's literally the bottom of the barrel and the only people who do it are shit actors that couldn't make it as anything else and amateurs.

>>718660393
Good VA, bad miscasting.
Far too sexy

>>718661452
>Dubs often sound like the people involved didn't even know who they were voicing.
That's unironically what happens most of the time because of NDAs and leak countermeasures. Many VAs don't even know what they're playing in and the project has a codename. Or when it's just too obvious to try to hide it they get obscured game/movie footage.
That wouldn't be that much of an issue if they had the original to compare themselves to, but they often don't. If it's a simulrelease it's 90% the case.

>>718658726
That's honestly preferable to Youtubers.

>>718660679
Most "voice actors" are Youtubers and other such non-actors who instead of having even local theater experience were just people raised on and imitating 2000s Funimation and Persona dubs.

>>718659908
They're too high up their asses and ask for too much money, so devs just hire literal whos, which does have an impact on quality, but most normalfags don't care.

>>718658606 (OP)
>buy japanese game
>english dub can't be disabled before starting new save
>mute tv

"feel the power of my MAGIIIIIIIIIIIIIC"

>>718660390
>>718670423
>>718670821
ask me how i know you're all ethnic minorities. that's right, none of you are white and it's detectable because you have opinions like this.

>>718675249
>That sound mixing
>That audio quality
>Urrrrgh
>Na-NOW
>KEEEEEEEYYYY-YAAAAH
KEK
You're right anon, there is a charm to those horribly bad dubs
These are comfy with how hilarious they are

>>718660532
It's obviously the most important plot line in the story

Perhaps the dub enjoyers are slow readers (ESL) or they simply have mommy issues.

>>718670193
>leads me to believe this is likely a problem with jap writing
Possibly the most retarded takeaway I've ever read in my entire fucking life. Do you think Japanese people, who SPEAK JAPANESE, are the ones WRITING THE FUCKING SCRIPTS THESE AMATEURS ARE READING FROM? Holy FUCKING SHIT you have got to be ragebaiting. No part of this is the Japanese's fault.

>>718684368
She's like a thousand years old, retard

>>718658726
can be kino
>deus ex

>>718697406
How come western games have good voice acting then?
The only time english vas become a problem is when they have to voice japanese media.

>>718696251
>most normalfags don't care
they don't care about A LOT of shit, that's why the standers are so fucking low
and you know what? when you point out something they be like
>OMG bruh who cares

>>718671427
Almost all the NPCs in The Witcher 2 are Welsh. The clear outlier being Letho which is ironic because he's played by Mark Lewis Jones

>>718697406
To clarify: their Japanese scripts get translated and "localized" by English speakers who then sprinkle in (((TOPICAL COMMENTARY))) and dead memes like big chungus and then these talentless VAs are directed, or not directed, to read off the bloated and cumbersome scripts with the shittiest flow and cadence humanly possible.

>>718658606 (OP)
AI will fix this. games will be 100% male.

>>718698003
Because whoever is in charge of the licensing or publishing or does the bids (I have no fucking clue how it works) picks the SAME fucking losers every time. I think SAG-AFTRA intentionally does this intentionally to prevent Japan from doing successful overseas. POINT IS, it has nothing to do with Japanese writing, which is translated before the dub work is done.

>>718659564
Japanese VAs sound better than people dubbing over Japanese media because the people hired to do that are the actual bottom of the barrel. Good english VAs exist, they just aren't hired by the Japanese for some reason. Some of the best voice acting I've heard is from nobodies reading for audible. I think there's some kind of weird nepotism or something going on within SAG when it comes to working with Japan because if I didn't know any better I'd say they were intentionally sabotaging their work.
Part of the reason I believe it has to do with SAG is because English (as in actual UK english) VAs are much better at their jobs. Think what you will of Fromsoft as a developer but their english VA work is leagues ahead of any dubbed work for other Japanese games. And it's not just because it's the original, AC6 has an english dub and it's still quite good, although they're American. I really don't know what their problem is. Maybe good VAs just don't want to associate with anime.

>>718663168
i'm not sexually attracted to my own mother, i simply like older looking women. if anything i blame my teachers for being extremely hot

>>718660664
have you read the manga at all? frieren acts like a child being taken care of by fern, she's barely even responsible for herself, nonetheless having any kind of motherly instincts

>>718671474
beautiful, ain't it?

>>718659797
Why did the english dub feel the need to add that shitty inner dialogue lmao

>>718662662
reb is actually good at her job, much better than steve ever was

>>718659797
Funis VAs were literally not actors at all. I think Sonny Strait may have had some very minor acting work prior to DBZ but Schemmel, Sabat, etc. were all locals pulled in off the street for cheap. Ocean's VAs also did a lot of western animation work and the difference in quality between them and Funi is blatant as is the difference between most anime dub VAs and western animation VAs from the '90s and 2000s.

>>718658726
Literally StarCraft and WarCraft III

>>718658992
They are being ironic

>>718661715
This game had 200% of Blizzard's old charm and wit.
>Gammel's the name.
I finally recognized the main VA as Rattlesnake Jake from Rango.

>hire some guy that does documentary narration
>ends up being kino

>>718698641
>I think there's some kind of weird nepotism or something going on within SAG when it comes to working with Japan
I can't really say anything worthy on that but it's more likely that when Japan wants to sell their games to the west then they contact American publishers, so the chances that they'll try to push SAGfags are higher.
>Maybe good VAs just don't want to associate with anime.
I can however say something on this.
Dubbing for weeb content (jRPG, gacha, anime) is considered the worst of the worst in the industry. Those in charge don't respect it and VAs who take the gigs feel like they deserve better. It's rarely something that they'd do willingly, it's almost always a stopgap on their path to Hollywood. This doesn't mean that you can't find passionate weeb EN VAs (IIRC the MC from "Koi wa Sekai Seifuku no Ato de" is voiced by a serious Super Sentai fanboy and he does a decent job, definitely better than the anime dub standard), but it's just rare.
Another thing is that the EN VAs that you know and respect know their worth (or ask for a bit too much), while actual, unironic Twitter randos don't, and they'll gladly work for pennies thinking that this is their once in a lifetime chance and they'll craft an entire personality around their one role. From a business standpoint, after you acknowledge that dubfags are mostly subhumans who don't know (and don't WANT TO know) any better, this is a net positive. Most of them are true amateurs with zero experience, training or education. This once again doesn't mean that you can't find true talent among them, but it's going to be harder than it should be.
I come from a country which has a very cultured, respected and professional VA industry, I really pity you burgerbros.

>>718664238
I thought that worked in FF12 but then again FF12 was people who mostly do western animation or western animation mixed with anime dubbing and I liked the accents going more with class/area. Like Ashe sounding more like a mid-Atlantic accent versus the Empire characters having full on British accents while the low class characters have standard American accents.

>>718658606 (OP)
I literally mute all voice acting in video games now.
Even japanese VA's in japanese games are awful.

Take the subtitle pill - you can read the dialogue ten times faster than a VA speaks it.

I love a few voice actors. I love hearing Cristina Vee and Kari Wahlgren and Sarah Williams pop up when I play games. No clue if they're bad or not but hearing them makes me enjoy a game more.

>>718682013
made up

>>718658726
>iconic villain of the franchise was just some guy in the office at the time

>>718701570
see>>718658898

>>718698551
That is a thing I agree.
But Japanese writing still sucks.

>>718681413
no way some studio paid for indian voice actors... sir, this is not real.

>>718701772
Literally fucking who?

>>718697406
Yes? A lot of games from the '90s and 2000s were notorious for having Japs writing translated versions of the English scripts and Jap VA directors which is why a lot of it was so clunky and bad. It's been replaced by localizers who hate Japane. But either way it's only rarely ever been good.

>>718658606 (OP)
>ATATATATATATATATATA
>SUGOOOOI NEEEE
>AAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Can't believe people will honest to God listen to Japshit with this.

>>718703350
Its better than "eat your hamburgers Apollo".

The only two types of dub I will tolerate are british stage actors or random schmucks they found off the street/in the office.

Joost

>>718660679
I dislike how "tuned" a voice is for each character. They have to sound one way.
There's a character in Final Fantasy 14, Estinien, who sounds like a sort of knock-off Liam O'Brien or whatever most of the time, but in HeavensWard, he's recovering at the end of it, and talks differently, without his gruff overtones, and I was like,"did something happen and they have to change actors or something?"
But it turns out the voice actor was just allowed to use his vocal range, which makes sense, because the voice behind all these characters is after all a voice of a person, and those people have ranges.
So it's weird to me that characters are stuck with one distinct sound, while their actors are capable of more, since both share the same voice.

>>718691179
Sometimes all you need is some malleable clay and good direction.

>>718659823
Fat is tied to estrogen though

>>718675912
>Laura Bailey
That cunt has been doing the exact same voice since bloodrayne with no changes at all, she is absolutely why the industry is so jewed, just someone who doesn't deserve anything being taken care of because of nepotism and a rotten old pussy.

>>718705901
I like her husband tho.

>>718705985
It's not that she sounds odd but it's just the same thing every time with maybe a little inflection or a bad accent put on top of it. The woman has no talent and nothing of worth besides being resembling an industry that needs to die.

>>718658992
It's BPD voice, not anime voice
Modern voice actresses all do it because they all have BPD

>xey don't consoome the of media in its original speech
ishygddt

>>718658606 (OP)
how i felt every time i heard a f*male soldier screech during bf6 beta

>>718658606 (OP)
>female with an african accent
I fucking hate it so much

>>718706820
I am NOT listening to the bug language they call "mandarin".

>>718659564
Depends, there's good and bad VAs in all languages. I've listened to Japanese VAs who I thought sounded like dub VAs. I looked at the cast and discovered they were all idols with no VA talent or experience. In the same show they had regulars who didn't sound like shit. Happens with dubs too if they are lucky enough to get anyone with a modicum of talent, they run laps around the amateurs. There's also a VA who is Japanese American fluent in both who voices themselves in the English dub. Aside from the forced baby voice they were asked to do, you can tell they are just a better VA than the other dub VAs.

>>718708242
>I've listened to Japanese VAs who I thought sounded like dub VAs
Examples?

>>718658606 (OP)
I turn off voices in every game I can.1

>>718705289
>I dislike how "tuned" a voice is for each character.
Unfortunately, I've found this is true for voice acting in general regardless of language or context. I'd guess it's partly typecasting and partly the actors/industry forming a cabal. Very rarely do I come across a voice actor who not only has range but is allowed to use it.

>>718708275
Off the top of my head Onipan and Kemono Friends (2?).

>>718709217
And which JP VAs did you dislike?

Armored Core 6 had some of the best voice that I've ever heard. I hope we get Armored 6.5

>>718658992
I don't really get anime voice either. Where did it even come from, was there some original performance that used that kind of tone? Were they trying to mimic how japanese sounds (it really doesn't) or they it just happened to be this way for some other reason, because nobody talks like this. Is everyone aping it now because that's what anime is supposed to sound like without reflecting on it so we have that acting/tone that's weirdly specific to american anime dubs.

>>718662662
what the fuck

>it's a character voiced by Morinaga Chitose
>it's an opening song by Yakushi Ruri

>>718709643
Titular characters from the former, the penguins I think in the latter.

>>718708834
Are there other examples you can think of?
It kinda sucks they can't use all of their range, like you said

>>718710945
And you honestly think they sound bad?
This has to be b8.

when did dubfags get this frail?

>>718711486
Dubfags were always frail.

>>718703350
You cannot argue it is not the peak of entertainment as a language.

>>718696939
>the people who don't watch dubs for white people? White people!
Every dubfag I've met has been white.

>>718658606 (OP)
all voice actors really. I fucking hate voice actors in general. Probably the least talented and most arrogant of all "creative" types.

>>718660390
Im not into anime much but Ive seen clips of her talking and I thought it "felt" wrong for her to sound so old compared to how she looks. Im sure theres some lore im missing like shes a 700 year old demon hunter or some shit but the voice just doesn't match to me.

>>718658726
bobr... no...

>>718708242
>There's also a VA who is Japanese American fluent in both who voices themselves in the English dub.
who?

>>718710061
I think it's because of the powerpuff girls. bubbles has that proto "anime voice" and her va went on to work in the dub industry.

>>718714001
She is like about a 1000 or something yes, but the point is that despite her age she actually is as immature as she looks, so sounding old doesn't fit, just for a slightly different reason.

>>718706820
this, other languages are fun

>>718658606 (OP)
"Voice acting" is such a meme. If you arent voicing a cartoon character you can just speak normally lmao anybody with a nice voice can do that

>>718658606 (OP)
It's because half of it is nepotism, the industry, while the other half is toxic positivity preventing the filtering out of the truly untalented. I wouldn't be surprised if they hired internally for it ("Hey guys, anyone have a nephew or niece that wants $200 to record some lines?") That's why nothing sounds good anymore (at least VAs from the States), they genuinely have people coming from the streets or within the company, with zero training doing the voices. Everything is flat, uninteresting and conversational.

>Oh who's that doing the voice of Titania the Fairy, Queen of the fairy court? why, its Janet from accounting!
>Oh who's doing the voice Ressler the rugged warrior exile, why that's the CEO's nephew Tim!

Its just no talent, drab bullshit.

>>718658898
>>718701570
ONE VISION
ONE PURPOSE

>>718715839
What does this mean in relation to the post

>>718715656
Post the last 3 American games you've played. Now.

>>718715934
Thats how it should be done, fuck "professional" VAs and celebrity faggots draining the budget to speak into a microphone.

>>718715656
>Oh who's that doing the voice of Titania the Fairy, Queen of the fairy court? why, its Janet from accounting!
this is how all of the old school rts games with voice lines everyone loves did it. chris metzen voiced like 4 different units in starcraft.

>>718716045
Then you're just going to get dogshit voice lines from people who have no idea how to even read retard

>>718670193
There are lots of talented American VAs, but you won't find them doing voices for Japanese properties because weebshit is the bottom of the barrel. Any literal who off the street can do voices for anime properties, the people with talent and range can command higher salaries than weebshit gets budgeted for.

ADR is also a part of it. Having someone come in and read a line off the page is completely different when you have a director who understands the story and the tone that's called for.

>>718698641
This is the other part of it. Union nepotism has basically ruined the chances of finding good performances in a dubbed anime. The old guard have either dropped off the face of the earth or have moved onto more prestigious roles.

>>718673178
all actresses in Japanese games are like this, always a 40 year old woman pretending to be UGU!, and gasping all the time.

>>718660585
this is the way to do it.

>>718715656
Some of the best voice acting for any game in general came from a guy who wrote books, hated video games, and never even attempted to pursue a career in voice acting.
https://youtu.be/BMCbJuURt0c?t=37

>>718706514
You're probably right

VTubers would unironically do better voice acting than most English VAs

>>718717157
Talent can be anywhere, that being said, many modern VAs today are from Youtube

>>718679907
I saw one streamer playing Mass Effect with French voices and every single one of them sounded like it was done by the same fat, sweaty, hairy guy who smokes 3 packs a day

>>718658726
any given employee in the office is going to care more than a "professional" voice actor will

>>718658606 (OP)
>English Voice Acting
Every single time.

>>718659564
lol you've done it now

>>718658898
KANE LIVES IN DEATH

>>718701570
I don't remember his exact background, but he was specifically a producer/director for those so he wasn't some random guy from the dev team or accounting. He just ended up playing the role himself.