Thread 718704108

which mouse do you use?

sensei ten
I want a replacement mouse with side buttons on both sides, but I can't fucking find one anywhere.

>>718704108 (OP)
based wired chad

>>718704108 (OP)
Razer Basilisk V3

>>718704108 (OP)
that one
when it dies ill buy it again

>>718704108 (OP)
my deathadder from 2016

>>718704108 (OP)
wired deathadder v3
not going back to anything now. I love this thing

>>718704108 (OP)
I use a Deathadder V3

Zaopin z2 with silent khail switches

HyperX it's shit. I'm thinking of getting one of those wireless mice where the whole mouse pad charges the mouse.

>>718704859
these speed-hole mice look so retarded

>>718704108 (OP)
Skill Korp skp m10, wired
I don't need more

Amazon pack of 50

>>718704108 (OP)
My 8 year old G502 just won't die. Love that little nigga

>>718704926
Yeah I don't know why I bought it. I think I was drinking and reading Junji Ito. I also wanted to try a lighter mouse but it's just not worth it.

>>718705008
Based 502 enjoyer. I've had mine for about 6 years now.

>>718704108 (OP)
Had my g502 hero for 7 years now. Absolute tank of a mouse, only just now starting to show wear in the side grips, never had a problem with double clicks.
Plus it intimidates limpwristed zoomers with its weightiness.

i refuse to use anything that isn't wired
it isn't performance autismn or wireless paranoia anymore. i just obsess over having wires to tangle my legs in. i need my wires

>>718704108 (OP)
I used to use a decade old g502, but now I've switched to a modern g502.
There is nothing wrong with my old mouse; I'm just using the new one to test the claim that modern Logitech switches don't last and quickly begin to double click. After 4 months of neet-level usage, it is still fine. I wish it was a bit heavier, however.

>watch a review of a mouse I'm interested in getting
>he takes a point off because it has no RGB lighting

>>718705250
>heavier
bruh open it up and hotglue some shit like nuts on each side

>>718705008
>>718705250
mine started double clicking so I couldn't ADS properly

>>718704108 (OP)
WHYD YOU POST MY EXACT MOUSE HOW DID YOU KNOW STOP FUCKING GANGSTALKING ME

Shit like mice make me hate rightoids even more. My only choice in mice is a few obscure left-handed office mice. There is not a single left-handed gaming mouse in existence. I swear to god it has to be malicious - there's no reason other than hatred and spite for difference that they don't exist.

>>718705152
Now that I realize it 2015 was 10 years ago, so I've actually had it for a literal decade at this point. The only "problem" is the wrapping around the cord in one spot is frayed and the groove for your thumb is worn smooth.

>>718705408
I've thought of that, but since I am using the mouse for testing purposes I feel like I should keep it as-is.
>>718705324
Having RGB shit should be an automatic loss of a point. God I fucking hate RGB.

Still using my logitech G400s from over a decade ago

>>718705502
>Shit like mice make me hate rightoids
what?

>>718705442
>literally the most popular gayman mouse ever made

>>718704108 (OP)
Razer naga v2 pro. I've had it for over a year and the mousewheel is starting to get overly sensitive and causes me to scroll when I don't mean to which is kinda annoying
other than though 10/10 mouse would buy again

>>718704108 (OP)
£3 optical notepad mouse black from poundsavers
made in china
it double clicks and sometimes randomly right clicks
but thats fine

>>718705698
I always used Naga but I've had like 4 of them so I decided never to buy R*zer products again

Mouse and keyboard autism should be ignored. Just buy whatever you want, they are all the same cheap pieces of junk manufactured in China anyway.

>>718705676
right-handed, not right-wing politics
this is very obvious to anyone with reading comprehension, retard

G305
Hell I have two of em. Thing just fucking works and I don't need gay gamer design, RGB or a billion buttons

>>718705814
oh, lol

>>718704108 (OP)
Steelseries Rival 3, corded of course

>>718705698
Got a naga at some point, started double clicking after literally less than a month
Decided to never buy another razor product ever again because of that

>>718705502
Have you not tried Google?

>>718705791
not true my g502 has a weird move the mousewheel sideways for two extra buttons feature and is super annoying to open up to clean

>>718704108 (OP)
The best mouse ever made

Endgame xm2 8k wired - It replaced a zowie fk1+- that died after a few years of abuse, scroll wheel eventually gave out. Had it a few months, really growing on me, nice coating on the mouse, clicks feel good, didn't think i'd like a smaller mouse but it's solid.

It's pretty good. Was expensive though.

>>718705945
Doubleclicking is why I bought this expensive mouse in the first place. It should never doubleclick thanks to optical switches apparently, which is great for the 2 mouse buttons. Can't say the same for the rest of the 14 buttons but they haven't crapped out on me yet though so that's good.

>>718706118
>not enough buttons
>looks lumpy
i'd rather use a crappy heated mouse for comfy winter playing

I fell for the Ninjutso meme. The mouse is good, but there are much better and cheaper mice nowadays. Still an amazing mouse considering how lightweight it is.

Bouncing between some razer bullshit and a corsair harpoon, both are double clicking.

>>718705502
just use the fucking mouse in your right hand like a normal person, it's not fucking hard at all and the keyboard layouts are much more sensible, you tard.
t. lefty with a left hand so dominant I had to sell my first guitar and buy a lefty because I just couldn't do both rhythm and precision with my right hand no matter how hard I tried

>>718706138
Forgot pic

>>718705324
I will never fucking understand the obsession with stupid-as lights

>>718706138
I chose Endgame specifically becaise I hate bloatware, turns out they make solid mice

>>718704108 (OP)
i'm on old g400. had it for about 7 years before it started double clicking. soldered new switches and keep using it.

>>718706418
its not an obsession it just looks cool
like clear plastic or anime titty designs

>>718706330
It’s practical durable mouse that doesn’t need such gimmicks. It feels great, works well and is long lasting. My one has lasted me 18 years and will probably last me a lot long it is truly the best mouse ever made and the only one you will ever need. It also the mouse used by many expert gamers such as RSJGaMeRPrO.

This thread is brought to you by fucking logitech.

>>718706771
>looks cool

except it doesn't

>>718706771
>it just looks cool

>>718706857
matter of taste
clearly you like bland, tittyless mice

>>718706118
yeah i miss this lil nigga

What are the best "moba" mice? I need one with a lot of programmable buttons for productivity software. I'm thinking of either getting an Aerox 9 or a G502 since I already have a G403 so I'm used to logitech software

>>718704108 (OP)
they need to stop putting rubber on things this shit just flakes away

>>718706410
Never. I shouldn't have to. Rightoids don't have to, why should I.

>>718707172
not if you actually look after your shit

>>718707251
this

>>718707251
cleaning it just removes more rubber faster

>>718705502
This wouldn't be a problem if they still made ambidextrous mouse designs (like what I've been looking for), but all of them stopped producing them a few years ago. Fuck knows why.

>>718704108 (OP)
whatever mouse I can find on the shelf at goodwill.

>>718705502
i'm left handed and use a right handed mouse

>>718707251
nah i'm with that anon rubber breaks down with time no matter how you take care of it, and they're high points of contact given they're made for grip. they always turn out shit. awful material for mice.

>>718707485
I don't care. I'm not doing it.

>>718706975
I like to stare at the monitor while I'm gayming, not at my hands, retard. Maybe if you weren't fucking with your keyboard during squads, we wouldn't lose every fucking match.

>>718705502
having a left handed mouse doesn't matter because the keyboard layout is right handed, you'd need left handed everything, I'm left handed and wouldn't switch to a left handed mouse because of this

>>718707612
its a mouse not a keyboard and what of when you arent staring at the screen?
shall everything adhere purely to function over form?

>>718707549
i've had my razer mouse for 12 years and the rubber is still intact

>>718707251
rubber breaks down with cleaning and the finish on the plastic of your keyboard/mouse wears down. I have a glossy spot on my spacebar where my thumb rests but the rest of it is still matte. Trackpads on laptops are notorious for this.

>>718704108 (OP)
Fucking hate how every single version of the G502 other than the original is fucking garbage

>>718706975
yeah and yours is shit because you're a fucking drooling retard who is amused with lights like some kind of retarded baby

>>718707449
my asshole is probably cleaner than the average mouse scroll wheel of a gayming computer

>>718704108 (OP)
this one is the best. i wish i could find a similar one like that but vertical. being able to unlock the scroll wheel is something i can't live without now

Take the China pill and stop buying overpriced crap from a company that considers you cattle.

>>718708089
i bet the retard has an rgb mousepad too

>>718708131
?

>>718707882
intact and gummy. maybe you like that feel in your hand, i think it's awful.

>>718708131
why would I support a country that would think of me as cattleb

>>718708089
>>718708132
you lost
I remember the huge push boomers made to get rid of rgb marketing but rgb stood the test of time

>>718708212
nah it feels fine

>>718708212
projecting

>>718708083
The metal scroll wheel has coating to stop it from rusting but it naturally gets rubbed off from use. If you look at a G502 from that's seen use for years it might just have a green scrollwheel from patina.
If you clean the scrollwheel with alcohol it's just gonna get worse.

>>718708131
which brand would you recommend?

>>718707841
>heh, I'm staring at my right hand while my teammates die, not my left!
>shall everything adhere purely to function over form?
Yes.

>>718708279
anyone who actively pays more for random lights has lost in life

>>718708382
kek

Fockin BEAUTIFUL

>>718708382
zoomers are turning 30 in like ten seconds, retard. There are zoomers on this board who are literally oldfags by this point.

>>718708465
only the cheapest products have no rgb nowadays so it's the opposite, failed poorfags can't get the nice lights

>>718707967
>>718708440
absolute lackluster arguments
not even puritanical just incoherent whining

ZOWIE EC1-DW checking in. Overpriced, but pretty good for the Intellimouse feel.

>>718708308
well if you're acclimated to it whatever. consider trying a new one or one without and noticing the difference and it'll be night and day, which is why i'd rather not have something on it that's designed to degrade.

>>718704108 (OP)
Fievel.

>>718708674
nah you'll always be a zoomer

>>718708328
what is there to project here

>>718708717
fuck off retard

rgbtards have brain damage

>>718704108 (OP)
GWolves Fenrir Asym 8k with sapphire skates on a cordura mousepad. I like speed and finger-tip grip.

>>718708998
nice cheese-grater

>>718708959
great counter-point!
however, no

>>718708882
this

>>718709063
>told to fuck off
>doubles down

zoomers can never just let it go

>>718709063
fuck off retard

>>718705324
link?

>>718709041
Thanks, it has grip tape where my fingers rest now. Finger-tipping a mouse means you only touch it with the tips of your fingers, holes are meaningless. I'm not putting my full weight on the thing like a savage.

>>718709125
>>718709145
no

>>718709206
https://youtu.be/-hRvEGdx9jE?si=yrsyvJmxUIQBD674

Corsair M75. Recently got 4 of them for free because I get lots of free shit at my job. It's a fine mouse, not perfect but definitely quality.

Previously used a Zowie EC2A, still my favorite mouse by far but the scroll wheel is total ass on that thing. I've had two of them and the scroll wheel quickly stops registering 80% of the time.

>>718709441
damn it's pretty good

After going through three Logitech G series mice for years (G203, G604 and G Pro) and having to suffer double clicking BS, I decided to buy one from China, the Incott G24.

It's pretty much a Chinese rip off of the G Pro, but it has hot swappable switches, which is now a mandatory requirement when I look for a new mouse to buy.

>>718704108 (OP)
kys shill

>>718709375
he sounds as gormless as I'd thought he would

>>718709441

But that's a Rat. Specifically a RAT 69. It's the upgrade on this badboy.

>>718708717
I love it when superficial retards with zero thought process such as yourself try to frame everything as an argument. I'm not picking your brain, I'm laughing at you, sperg.

>>718709550
christ you can't have a single thread without these retards showing up

>>718709594
that looks.. cold

>>718704108 (OP)
Some shitty 30 dollar mouse I got at best buy.

>only person to like RGB retardation ITT is going full retard

pottery

>>718709642
they've become brainless bots who can just spew the same shit over and over

>>718709630
and yet you argue while i remain right

>>718709630
>>718709734
ignore the retard

/g/ - Video Games

>>718709818
whatever helps you cope...

>>718704108 (OP)
The one in your picture. I don't care if it's heavy. It fits very nicely in the hand and is still affordable I assume

>>718704108 (OP)
I think im using the exact same logitech one. I used to use a steelseries one, and liked the huge size with just a couple extra buttons. Before that were a couple razers, one that was big for FPS with also 2 extra buttons, and then another with a shitload of buttons for WoW. All of them started fucking up at some point, however. One stopped allowing to scroll, another stopped clicking properly, and one stopped allowing click inputs. I got frustrated and ended up with the logitech. Probably lasted me a few years now so far with no issues.

>>718709963
it's gaming tech you wannabe janny

>>718704108 (OP)
Best wireless mouse. It just works.

>>718705324
Some lighting is fine in your keyboard, maybe your mouse, but some people go so fucking overboard with RGB on everything. Motherboard, ram, gpu, psu, aio cooler, their fucking case, their chair, the goddamned gayming headphones. The best part is that these dumbasses don't even customize it. They leave it on rainbow vomit

>>718704108 (OP)
Logitech g502 + k120

>g600 finally died
>come to learn they've been out of production for years and the only way to get a replacement is to pay $500 to some pajeet on scamazon or holy grail thrift shops and second hand PC stores

it's suffering. I've got a Corsair scimitar as a replacement, which feels close enough to actually use, but still not nearly good enough as the G600 was.

Asus Gladius III because you can hot swap the switches for quite ones

>>718710339
having a lit keyboard is the only thing I'd deem necessary - never needed lights on a mouse

>>718705008
>>718705250
How did yours last so long? I had my last one for 5-6 years then the laser started to go and the cursor would move on it's own

>>718710339
there are even rgb tables now

>>718710453
pretty much

>>718704108 (OP)
An old x-tech that I stole from my nephew.
He doesn't need it anyways, he just plays roblox and fortnite.

>>718705412
rip

>>718710453
>having a lit keyboard is the only thing I'd deem necessary
In what way is it necessary?

>>718710671
to see your keys in the dark?

>>718710462
This and the nicer MX version suck for even work. The shape is on point, and the ball is smooth rolling but 125Hz polling rate is cursed. Glad I moved to https://www.gamingtrackball.com/products/gameball-thumb-standard-edition for work and RTS.

>>718710453
I wouldn't call it necessary, but it's nice to have
>>718710518
>rgb tables
Of course there are. They put those rgb hexagon things on the wall from ikea too

>>718710671
if you have a keyboard with custom keys and you play in the dark? are you retarded?

>>718710821
>I wouldn't call it necessary

it depends on your keyboard

>>718710783
>>718710832
Do you niggers not touch type?

>>718710339
>they leave it on rainbow vomit
My GPU came with RGB but I bought it because it had the performance I wanted at the price I wanted. I don't fuck with the lights because I don't have to look at them because of my windowless blackout case. I liked this case so goddamn much I reused it when my built my new computer instead of buying another case. The case I had before this went through two or three different builds. I'd just strip it down completely and blast the inside of the case outside with the garden hose and dry it with a leaf blower before rebuilding.

>>718710783
learn how to type. The f and j keys have those indents on them so you can index your fingers properly without looking.

>>718710783
you need to look at your keys?

>>718710954
Do people usually buy new cases? I've always reused mine until I found one that I liked better.

>>718711071
You are like a baby.
My record is 157 WPM at 100% accuracy.
Clone Holy Panda switches by the way, for anyone asking.

>>718711296
prove it

>>718704108 (OP)
g502

>>718705698
>numpad on the side
>dials number
Moshi moshi

>>718705838
Same. I have a new one just sitting in the box next to me for when the current one shits the bed. I hated it at first but I've come to really like it. My only real complaint is the scroll wheel gets too loose and finicky.

>>718711234
Seems to be what everyone's doing. I've been building since 2009 and it took me 3 attempts to find a case I like.

>>718704108 (OP)
Razer Viper Ultimate but it’s pretty worn down now. I’ve been looking for a new one.
Is there a mouse out there that satisfies these criteria?
>wireless
>lightweight
>right-handed ergo shape
>big enough for a comfortable palm grip
>doesn’t have stupid configuration bloatware
>ideally has swappable switches
and most importantly
>isn’t made by a garbage company
Price isn’t an obstacle.

>>718711912
I have a Corsair 4000D and the only reason I could see to not reuse it would be if I couldn't fit these huge newer GPUs in it. It's a pretty big case so storing it would be a pain in the ass too.

>>718704108 (OP)
you can get pretty decent cheap clones of premium mice (logitech g pro x superlight, razer viper v3 pro etc) like the vxe r1/r1 pro for around 20-50 usd
many mice from kysona and attack shark as well
paired with a cheap artisan clone like the ATK sky you basically have a logitech g pro x superlight and artisan zero for less than half of the the price

same with keyboard, you can get a wooting hall effect clone for like 50 usd, for example the ajazz ak680 max and ak820 max he

>>718705412
New ones have optical switches, no longer an issue

>>718710909
>>718711026
>>718711071
>customer keys

>>718707485
Same. I just got used to it over the years.

>>718708382
Your reaction gif is almost 20 years old. Hope that's a wake up call

>>718712765
a wake up call for what? your retardation?

>>718712765
what a retarded post

>>718712634
>customer keys
Wut? Like the buttons with pictures they have for McDonald's employees?

>>718712765
>wake up call
What did Karen-anon mean by this?

>>718704108 (OP)
I am currently using my g604 lightspeed. I have repaired this thing several times. Replaced the rubber, swapped out the shitty switches it originally came with when they started giving me the Logitech double click, cleaned up the scroll wheel when it was giving me shit, and even glued one of the side button back together with plastic cement when it snapped because of shit design.
This piece of shit will continue to get use until its completely unable to be repaired, or when repairing it is more expensive then just buying a new Mouse with more then 3 side buttons.

>>718711912
I've gone through 3 cases since like 2013

The most basic mouse I can buy. Fuck gaymer shit

>>718706279
>mushy sidebuttons
>woobly plastic
>batteries turn to shit after a month
bought some chink mouse instead, still better after 6 months and only cost 40 bucks

>>718713605
this
>>718708790
based, zowie is peak

>>718712207
Don't let that stop you. When I sold my used hardware for the upgrade last year I still had my apollo from 2009. I wanted to turn it into a built machine so it would sell easier and so I don't have a big useless box taking up space. I had a 1070 to stick in it so I drilled out the rivets in the HDD cages and removed it. I had a spare SSD sitting around so I used that.
I spray painted the chrome plastic trim on the case black so it didn't look so gay. Computer aesthetics were very different back then. For some reason everyone wanted seven 5.25 optical drives and two or three fan controllers. Shits changed so much.

>>718713268
thats what I meant, I started in 09 and I'm on my third case. Once cable management options improved that drastically slowed down the appeal for me in new cases.

>>718704108 (OP)
G502 Hero
Bit of a tank but I like it. Had it for a couple years now and it still works except for mouse 5 because I got lysol in it while it was plugged in

>>718713032
I think he means like mwcro keys or something

>caring about tranny lights

what makes someone like this

>>718715330
macro even

>>718704108 (OP)
I like symmetrical mice

>>718705376
>OP1
This anon has done his research.
Great taste.

>>718708376
I clean mine with alcohol and have had it for 3 or 4 years, the scrollwheel is fine, the skates are disintegrating though lol

>>718713032
Imagine being at computers

>>718705376
>>718715693
that looks small and retarded

>>718704108 (OP)
I've been using the OG G502 since it came out without any issue at all (except for the rgb colors bugging out every now and then but who fucking cares). I'm scared I won't be able to go back to back to a normal mouse when this one croaks

>>718705590
I programmed mine to change color depending on the battery percentage remaining, which I find handy since now I never run out of battery half way through a firefight. Other than that, RGB isn't worth the shit on my shoe

>>718710378
You can find them only somewhat marked up as Logicool G600Ts. Cheaper than a Scimitar or Naga retail still at least.

>>718704108 (OP)
Razer Niga Pro V2

the g502 fucking sucks lmao

any mmo mice that dont suck complete fucking ass?

>>718704108 (OP)
Logitech G502 Proteus Spectrum.

You can get a new model of the line G502, and it's quite affordable, but I would avoid all the wireless options.

>>718716616
Why would you want a big mouse?

>>718704108 (OP)
that's a good mouse

>>718708131
I was buying the same logitech mouse every few years until it wore out, and the quality has gotten so bad now that I returned the new one and stuck with my broken POS where nearly every button double clicks
what are the good midrange chink brands?

heres your mouse bro

>>718710339
razer sells rgb mousepads now. it is kinda neat if it wasn't so disgusting

>>718717748
Because I have big balls

>>718704108 (OP)
G502 is the only mouse with a good sensor and at least three side buttons but no more than 6. Plus it has a convenient middle button for changing music tracks.

>>718704108 (OP)
glow in the dark one with side buttons

>>718704108 (OP)
zowie ec1

Op1 8k

>>718704108 (OP)
keychron m6

VXE R1
>cheap, can replace 3+ times before you reach the price of a same spec/switch/sensor Logitech/Razer IF it breaks

>no need for software or chink software install; You can even map modifiers INCLUDING win key combos, all through a browser page

>2.4G dongle + BT + wired mode, all in one for your choosing
>good sensor
>good switches
>cheap as fuck

>>718705502
Theres a plethora of ambidextrous mice to choose from, there's also a left handed Razer Naga with swappable side buttons

>>718718892
kino

>>718718908
>kinda neat

kinda GAY

>>718717273
Honestly, the Logicool branding always makes me feel like I’m buying some bootleg anime version of Logitech, but yeah you're right-still cheaper than the Scimitar these days and you aren’t stuck with iCUE or Synapse bloatware. I grabbed a G600T off a JP seller last month and it’s been rock solid, even if it looks like it time-traveled from 2012.

I had a steelseries rival 700 or something for a long time. I liked that it was heavy and had a programmable vibration feature so I could time roshan respawns in dota 2.
It eventually broke and now I've been using a G502 because I like my mice to have a fucked up shape.

Currently maining the MCHOSE L7 Pro.
Basically a Logitech Pro X Superlight but
>even lighter (39 grams)
>more durable
>better build quality
>much better stock feet
>up to 8k polling rate (not really needed)
>omron optical switches
>better mousewheel (not like the garbage one from the superlight that stops detecting the middle mouse click if you lift the finger slightly without a click being audible)
>same/better latency
>no garbage ass logitech software
and for like half the price.

I got a Deathadder and I kinda hate it.
The shape feels off, but mostly I hate the scroll wheel.

>>718721543
nice

Endgame. Perfect mice and affordable. GG mousepads too.

>>718721561
is it the v3? i have an ec1 and i was thinking about getting one to replace it

>>718720023
Any reason not to get the Nearlink version if 1k is fine? For some reason I don't see many people talking about it, but it has the best battery life.

>>718704108 (OP)
Swiftpoint Z2
One of the rare moments of my life where I felt like overspending on silly bullshit. But it's a cool mouse.

Someday i'll get it

>>718720023
>web driver
This needs to become standard. Peripheral support in Linux is dogshit

>>718723664
Getting high on pingu mouse juice

>>718723448
It's a Deathadder "Essential".
Further than that I'd have to get into the program that I had to download to turn off the fucking light.

Any chinkmouse with a free-scrolling mousewheel? That's one thing I can't live without now

HIPER GMUS-500 DRACO.
YES, you heard me correctly its HIPER GMUS-500 FUCKING DRACO. No, i dont know what that means either. I also attached 100g sticky rollers under it so it can weight even more. I am insane.

>>718705698
This was liquid dogshit when I bought it a few months ago. Sometimes when I would scroll the scrollwheel would just say "no" and not scroll for 1~3full fucking scrolls. This happened both infinite scroll and normal scroll. Returned that garbage the same day. Will never buy Razer again.

>>718704108 (OP)
MX518
i bought like 5 of them when the refresh came out

Anybody have suggestions on mice that have 5-8+ side buttons, but doesn't have like, 14+ or some shit and has them relatively big rather then tiny?

I want something with a lot of buttons for productivity and bindings, but I don't a ton of tiny ones that I could mispush like what MMO mice have

So far I'm looking at the Asus Chakram and Logitech G5012

>>718704108 (OP)
That shape and build is usually a good standard for gamers. Can't play with other types of mouse, they just feel lacking in comfortability now.

>>718724695
kone pro xp is an option
somewhat similar in shape to the mx518

>>718708713
Wrong, cheap products have RGB lights in them now. HyperX products are plenty cheap and competitive in their price point and build quality, you are simply a sucker for paying more for a functioning board in custom fancy colors if you go beyond their price points.

Had a G703 for a few years before the scroll wheel died entirely, and it doubeclicked on EVERYTHING. Switched to a Deathadder V3 a year ago, specifically for the digital switches, and haven't had a double click yet. Took a while to get used to the size(slightly smaller,) but it's fine now.

Never buying Logishit ever again.

>>718704404
I seriously cannot find an ambidextrous mouse (side buttons on both sides) available anywhere now, it's pissing me off.
This should not be a hard-to-find item.

>>718704108 (OP)
That one of course. Silly question.

>>718725239
older zowie ambi mice like the fk1 had buttons on both sides
newer versions of everything including are getting rid of them though to save weight which why you can't find them
you might want to look at stuff on ebay for new old stock etc

>>718705250
It comes with optional weights for weirdos like you.

>>718704108 (OP)
I've been using a Corsair Darkcore, its pretty nice being able to swap between wired/wireless whenever you want.

>muh weight

poor excuse how having shit aim and reflexes

>>718705698
It's too bad they raised the price of this and now you can only get the shitty "hyperspeed" version that's battery (double A...) and wireless only, or pay double the price for the "pro v2".

>>718704108 (OP)
got this for $70 off and love it

>>718725417
Not this model. It did come with a different thumb button I could switch out, however.

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>>718704108 (OP)
I want a quite mouse that doesn't do this
>CLICK CLICK CLIIIIIIICK
and has a good censor

what are the options?

>>718704108 (OP)
when is the ultralight wristlet meme going to fucking die? I literally just want a big weighty mouse that won't chip and double click but corsair is retarded and can only understand the first part of that sentence

Are there any mice like this that's specifically for gaming?

>>718723952
>HIPER GMUS-500 DRACO
Oh shit, this looks even better than my corsair, I wanna buy it but it looks russian or some shit, they sell to Canada?

>>718723846
Yeah I'm never buying Razer again because of their Synapse shit. Glad that basically everyone is abandoning the bloatware and moving more to webdriver stuff.

I miss my razer diamondback

Using a WLmouse Sword X. It's good. Magnesium mice feel nice. I still have my DAV3 pro, as well.

>>718704108 (OP)
Lights off

>>718717656
I have the Logitech G502 Lightspeed and it works fine using the wireless if you pair it with the mouse pad thing that charges it too.

mx518 legendary cus im used to a 518 and wore several out
i have a g400 mint in box should I ever need it

yes my penis is huge
no you cant suck it

>>718728931
Yes. I think Razor makes one. If not, then there IS a brand out there that does, but I can't remember what it is. But I think Razor does.

Whatever's the cheapest wired one, with side buttons
Same thing for keyboard: the cheapest wired mechanical full keyboard

>>718707315
logitech g903 is ambi because it's modular. you can take the buttons off both sides, swap or disable them. entire mouse can be customized with software. but there are downsides
1) fucking expensive
2) good but not $140 good
3) used ones go for cheap specifically because pieces are missing
4) was made and marketed specifically to shill the optional $100 "mousepad that charges your wireless mouse"
5) it will eventually double click which is what people say but it only happens to me if i bash m1 like a nigger would

if you can find an auction or auction(s) for a steal that will net you a full set of all the accessories then it's a pretty good ambidextrous mouse

>>718704108 (OP)
That one

>have old logitech g502 that still works well
>retire it to the side for my 2nd backup computer
>only just realize the removable bottom is missing for some reason
WHERE THE FUCK DID IT GO?

G305. Light, simple, and I've had it for years

>>718704108 (OP)
Been using a G502 for like a decade now. Retired the original and got the newer Hero version a few years ago.
Only complaint is the rubbery side grip stuff that starts to "melt" after a while. The wired version is cheap enough that I can just replace it after a few years though.

>>718733773
My G502 Hero still has that. You just have to tug on the little edge by the thumb rest.

>>718734427
>Only complaint is the rubbery side grip stuff that starts to "melt" after a while.
Yeah, wtf.

>>718704108 (OP)
Razer DeathAdder Elite.
Razer peripherals are usually overpriced dogshit, but I've had the same DeathAdder Elite since 2020 and I suspect they've cheaped out on manufacturing since Covid. I've heard some of the newer models have issues with ghost clicking or faulty scrollwheels but mine hasn't had any problems since I bought it.

>>718704727
hello me it's me again

>>718734828
>they've cheaped out on manufacturing since Covid

Razor products were always made cheaply newfriend.

I'm still using a Rival 300, but it's wearing down.
I wish I could find a mouse that has room for my ring finger to rest on top. My thumb, index, and middle finger have a palm grip but my ring and pinky use a claw or just drag on the mousepad. Every mouse I've tried is too small except the vertical Logitech one designed around having all four fingers on it, but I don't like that position.

>>718704108 (OP)
i use the one in your pic

>>718705324
>718705324
i hate rgb faggots so much

>>718704108 (OP)
Zaopin Z1 Pro

>>718704108 (OP)
g502 is comfy for playing practically everything that isn't an FPS, g502 is too heavy if you're a low sensitivity player. But I'm using a razer deathadder v2, wired. I've started noticing it weirdly tracks when it's not supposed to. And I might need to install the razer software to correct that or simply buy a new mousepad cuz it's dirty. I ain't installing their fuckin bloatware. Too many third party applications can can be a nightmare on windows that will cause game crashes. I've learned the hard way about how certain DLLs hook into things that they're not supposed to.
I still haven't converted to wireless yet when it would probably make my life so much easier cuz the cable length always makes it tricky for me in how my desk is setup. One day I will change to wireless, but it's when I can think of absolutely nothing else to spend my money on. I've got a few wired mouses in my house too. So even if my razer mouse inevitably double clicks I've got like at least 4 other mouses to fall back on. If Razer decide on making a death adder V4 I hope they just go back to the classic shape, I'm less enthusiastic about the v3.

>>718721543
L7 isn't a superlight. A7 is. That looks more like a Pulsar X2 mini.

Check shapes at Eloshapes.com

>>718704108 (OP)
Best mouse I've ever used, literally no problems ever

>>718738205
The 502X is only 89g wired, which I appreciate is still like 30g higher than the current FPS superlight meme mice, but is only a few grams heavier than a traditional smaller mouse like a G203 since they got rid of the fucking metal scroll wheel and removable magnetic panel for making it even heavier.

>>718739161
>The 502X is only 89g wired
I have the older model. So I thought it remained the same. Then I suppose it's fine for FPS now. That's comparable to when I was using a Logitech g403 or a Zowie EC2-A/EC2-B. And even lower than an older Deathadder Chroma.

For me it's G402 Hyperion Fury. None superior.

What's a G502 Hero replacement? It works fine after 3 years, but I don't want to deal with the logicrap software anymore. Is there a G502 clone from a decent brand? I don't want to give up the button layout or the scroll wheel.

>>718704727
Doesn't work like that goy
Newer models are not the same machine anymore

>>718741751
g502 x

>>718704108 (OP)
8 years bros, my scroll wheel is finally giving out. what do I get next? i like all the buttons

>>718711296
You seem really proud of that

Any other mouse brands with a mouse similar in shape and size to a G703? It is perfect in my hand, but I don't want to buy logitech anymore.

>>718704108 (OP)
Keychron M3A1

>>718742602
Use blutack to clean things like that

>>718742576
https://www.eloshapes.com/mouse/compare?p=logitech-g703-lightspeed-vs.-teevolution-terra-vs.-pulsar-x3
https://www.eloshapes.com/mouse/find-similar?p=logitech-g703-lightspeed

Have used two of these in the last ~13years. Replaced the first one when the scrollwheel kinda broke and it would always scroll one tick in the opposite direction after a certain amount. Second one just recently got the exact same issue so I will probably get a new one soon.
I wanna try a new model but idk if the buttons on the sides are gonna bother me and most mouses seem to have that.

Says Mazer E-Blue on the bottom. Probably had it a decade at this point.

>>718743746
cool site, thanks

wireless, magnesium limited run with synthetic sapphire mouse feet

>>718744156
>>718744182
This better have hotswappable microswitch sockets otherwise
>double-clicks in you're path
>money stolen

>>718744307
4 thousand hours in aimlabs
never once got a double click

Luv me macros

>>718706771
i'm indifferent so i have no dog in this fight but just out of curiosity what are your thoughts on racing car gaming chairs?

Logitech mice have the least durable middle click known to man
I have had no joke 4-5 Logitech mice (office + gaming) all develop the exact same double clicking fault on the middle click specifically

>>718742576
Unironically a death adder
Pick your poison wrt wired or wireless
I went wireless personally, it's pretty similar to my ancient g403 which died (lol fuck logishit never again)
Razer is a meme because they have been great forever, I honestly wish I'd never got sucked into the logihype marketing machine

>>718744520
Not just the middle click, but the scroll as well, can't believe how scammed I got by the g pro

>>718708376
fuck man is there a material that scrollwheels can be made from that doesn't eventually go to shit?

>>718708998
based. personally im waiting for the 12 gram mouse they're releasing later this year

Im using the 2011 razer naga for 25 years

>>718723458
last time i heard nearlink trade off was the hit or miss connectivity issues given that its new tech

>>718704108 (OP)
Exactly the one pictured. I like it.

>>718705814
you're on the /pol/ website in a thread about mice and some retard starts sperging out, it's not too farfetched

>>718708998
you are the only other anon i respect in this thread
i have found artisan pads very nice
if you crave speed, the raiden is leaps and bounds faster than my x ray pad plus

>>718744373
I'll make a thread later with this image

>>718704108 (OP)
I like the g502 because of the buttons but almost no other mouse has the same (or 1 or 2 more, but not mmo mouse tier) amount of buttons.
Recommend me some mouses with more than the average amount of buttons

>>718725397
>>718725239
>>718704404
Same, I have been stuck with my Razer Lancehead TE for years now since it's the only one I've found that has side buttons on each side. It's a great mouse, but man is the build quality shit.
Each mouse I've bought from Razer always ends up with the mouse wheel malfunctioning. So I recommend it, but only if you plan on getting a new one every year or so.

>>718705698
I'll be the third person to say the scroll wheel is fiddly, which would normally be a dealbreaker, but this is the only mouse with a 4-6 side-button profile like that currently on the market so I don't have a choice. Previousl I was using the Logitech G604 (pic related), which had the same side-button configuration, but iy got old and started double-clicking and Logitech no longer sells them, so Razer it is I guess.

deathadder v2

rgb lighting is for faggots

>>718742602
jesus

>>718704108 (OP)
I switched from G502 to Viper Mini 2 years ago, it's great. I wish I could afford carbon viper mini.

>>718744156
Does anyone make something like this but with a right-handed ergonomic shape? It's always ambidextrous but with right-handed side buttons and I don't know why.

feels pretty nice so far, web driver is also quite nice

>>718706118
I still use mine daily. Every few years I clean the insides and replace the pads.
It's a shame they stopped making them.

got viper v3 pro after years of cheap wired chinese mice. The sensor is good enough for me to feel the difference. Using it with cordura pad since it's pretty humid where i live.

>>718704663
I'm thinking of getting that my viper just died

>>718710307
>It just works.
Until it doesn't.

>>718704108 (OP)
that one

>>718745164
how fast does the coating wear off on these 3d printed mice?

>>718704108 (OP)
Cheapest Logitech wireless mouse. I don't play with mouth and keyboard, I only game on controller.

which wireless mouse should i get if i have fingertip grip but i never touch the bottom half of my mouse

>>718704108 (OP)
A4Tech X7
Been using them for years. Cheap, simple and near-indestructible. And I like 'em heavy

>>718747617
Damn, that brings back memories. I had the one with the spider motif. They weren't bad at all.

>cheap as fuck
>feels good in your hand
>has everything you need
Take the budget-pill, I can't imagine retards that buy razer products that break every few months.

Why is Logitech GHUB so dogshit?

Seriously I'm convinced the 'people' who made that piece of shit software don't even use the thing.

I really love logitech wireless pro
its shape is just perfect
but its also kinda expensive so I just get chink rip off instead
work exactly the same for 1/3 the price

>>718742576
Had this for years, but became too heavy as my tendonitis got worse. Love the shape

>>718705008
>have a g502 for like 6 years
>pandemic hits and the mouse starts gitter skipping and becomes unusable
>find one on ebay for like $10
>its been 5 years since then
>starting to worry
>check g502 prices
>$70, its all fancy and has sharp edges now
what am i gonna do bros

>>718748118
i transferred from the 703 pretty nicely to the deathadder v3 hyperspeed
the shape is nearly identical and it's about half the weight
software is shit, but it's still better than logitech

>>718704108 (OP)
G502 Hero. It's pretty good

>>718748329
razer basilisk v3
i actually prefer the location of the sniper button ahead of the side buttons and the feel of the sniper button is immensely satisfying
it also has infinite scroll and is about 20 grams lighter while being the same price

>>718744621
I don't expect anything that doesn't have an optical scroll wheel to last but there isn't a ton of options for those.

>>718747910
I just use Onboard Memory Manager. Have to use the old pre-G-Hub software for my G600 which is still mildly shit.

>>718748738
What does that do? I just have 3 profiles that I occasionally swap to, can I just set those with a profile switching button with OMM?

>>718747857
I have had this mouse for just a few months, worked fine at first, but now its already dying. Laser keeps flipping out, causing cursor movement to be off or just stop entirely for a second. And its not because I have been hard on it or anything, I unsubscribed from WoW just after getting it and pretty much everything else I play with a controller...

>>718704108 (OP)
Lamzu Paro Aurora. Optical switches and encoder that hopefully will last for some years.

>>718704108 (OP)
Deathadder v2

Thinking about replacing it with an endgame op1 v2 because of the fucking squeaky scroll wheel. Fuck Logitech/Razer for not having easily openable mice.

>>718747857
>literally me
my current one turned 5 a couple months ago

>>718704108 (OP)
Trust Verto or Gembird MUS-ERGO-01, I don't remember exactly which one I've got, but they have similar profile and both have wired options.

>>718738205
Looks like I wasn't paying attention. Razer already released the death adder v4. And they've committed to ruining the shape. It's over. I can accept separating the buttons from the shell. Not so much with what they did to the shape since v3. I hate whoever is giving razer advice. The last good razer mouse will forever be the V2.

>>718704108 (OP)
for me it's the g502 hero

>>718747857
>>718748824
>>718748894
>hurr durr retards
>dies within months

my last razer lasted me 8 years

>>718704108 (OP)
the simplest logitech rat
all those sharp edges and multiple buttons make me uncomfortable

>>718713212
>>718704108 (OP)
Anyone know of a chink wireless mouse that's superior to these?
I'd rather avoid Logitech again.

>>718750004
https://www.wlmouse.com/products/mini-pro

>>718710818
>Due to hazardous materials classifications with lithium batteries, we can only ship GameBall Thumb to the United States and the United Kingdom.

Lol.

>>718749995
maybe because you're fat

>>718704108 (OP)
g502 lightspeed, looks almost like that pic.
logitech build quality is shit, but it's the best brand for comfort for my hand, i've tried some others and i just get cramps.
i'm just gonna have to continue dealing with double clicking and scroll wheel reverse scrolling

>>718704108 (OP)
Deathadder V2. I like it but it did start suffering from a jumpy scrollwheel around 4 months after I got it but the problem has near fixed itself, outside the occasional jump when I scroll down too much

Endgame gear, Pulsar or Zowie for a wired mouse?

>>718711296
>>718711071
I am typelet :( no matter how hard I try my peak is like 75 wpm. I use the keychron q1he btw. Maybe the keyboard is cucking me but I doubt it, it feels very high quality.

>>718750559
Endgame is really good if you want simplicity

>>718750559
endgame is so far beyond all other wired mice manufacturers it's not even funny
it's to the level that i prefer wireless mice and i still use an op1 8k

>>718732568
I just don't trust any wireless device. Also, their price is much higher.

>>718741751
You can still keep it and use the software "Logitech Gaming Software" which is discontinued, but I like it several times more compared to that shitty "G HUB".

Unfortunatly, if you need G HUB for other devices, like the headset, you have to take a decision about what to install (as the old software gets disabled), which is the reason why I won't buy any Logitech products, aside the gaming mice.

vertical mouse chad reporting in
you guys want your wrists to stay healthy, don't you?

>>718750894
i counteract my mice actions with mastrubation

>>718750894
i've used a regular mouse 12-16hrs a day for 24ish years with zero strain injuries. often gaming intensively for 4-8hrs of those days
just exercise common sense
don't have anything under your wrist (especially not "pads"), don't keep going if your wrist hurts, sit so your wrist is level with the mousepad, etc

>>718750894
I just use a high enough sensitivity that I barely move my wrist at all. Mostly just small adjustments with my fingers.

>>718750894
what kind of cock-loving limp wristed faggot would need this?

>>718725397
>newer versions of everything including are getting rid of them though to save weight
Fuck this gay earth.
The whole "ultralight mouse" push is an excuse for them to cheap out as much as possible, skimming down material to the bare minimum to reduce production cost, while convincing dumb consumers that it'll give a competitive advantage in shooter games.

>>718751637
the price of a mouse is not in the amount of cheap ABS plastic the shell is made of, the price is in making the mold (which is more complex on lighter mice) and acquiring expensive parts like sensors

>>718704108 (OP)
I use one of these.

>>718751818
BASED

>>718735084
damn that looks fucking nasty and i'm not even talking about that nail

>>718751818
fuck i miss this thing
do they still sell them?

>>718704108 (OP)
just got this and i really like it - glad I could re-assign the buttons because I don't care about on-the-fly dpi changing

Superlight all the other mouses are trash and the pro's using them are paid to do so like the fit influencer who try to shill their shit supplement products. I tried like 20 different brands, and they all sucked dick.

>>718704108 (OP)
They need to make a new g600.

>>718751729
>making the mold
That's part of R&D cost, not production and manufacturing cost. There had to be a justification to go ahead with designing a new mold, and they figured out it would cut down on material significantly enough to be worth it.
>and acquiring expensive parts like sensors
This is a cost theu have to consider regardless of the form factor of the mouse.

You can try to soin it how you want, it's obvious that the reduced material weight is a cost-cutting measure. Even pennies shaved off is huge at a mass prduction scale.

>>718752561
it really doesn't matter, the point is a more complicated mold is more expensive and hence making the mouse is more expensive. also, more intricate molds require a lot more maintenance, so yes, it is part of ongoing costs.

>>718752607
the mouses are made for 5$ in a chink factory, like all of them.

>>718752561
>>718752561
>it's obvious that the reduced material weight is a cost-cutting measure
this is not true, it's dramatically more expensive to produce thin-walled plastic products than thick-walled ones
the raw material is essentially free but thinner walls require vastly better tolerances and QC

>>718752665
just the sensor on a modern gayming mouse will cost you $20-$80 from pixart depending on the SKU
osome discounts for bigger customers but nothing too dramatic

>>718745746
>>718746330
Thus isn't in stock anywhere either.
Only scalpers with hugely inflated prices on eBay.
Fuck Logitech
Fuck Razer
Fuck Zowie
Fuck all these mouse companies, all of them utter cheapskates trying to dictate what the market wants instead of providing what consumers want.

>>718752756
Yea the sensor cost money, the plastic is worthless, and they all are produces in china.

>>718752756
>it's dramatically more expensive to produce thin-walled plastic products than thick-walled ones
Again, they have the machinery and molds to do it already. That investment is done, it's mostly a one-time investment to have new molds built. Over time, this is far cheaper due to cutting back on material at scale.

This little dude is somehow still going after like 8 years, maybe 10? Best mouse I've ever had for sure.

>>718752935
you have zero knowledge about anything, it's passively more expensive at every step of the process to produce a product with narrower tolerances
why get in retarded internet arguments about shit you don't know anything about? just play your gacha and fart into the couch, you dilute the signal to noise ratio of the internet

Wired microsoft mouse from 2006 fuck this data mining thread

>>718753016
>to produce a product with narrower tolerances
That applies to products with mechanical parts, where they'll need a higher level of precision to move smoothly without wear. This does not apply to computer mice (outside of scroll wheels, which break early anyway as their build quality is actually shit), we are talking about a molded plastic shell that only needs to hold enough rigidity to keep its shape in your hand. You are the one that has no clue about the mass production of these products, including why all the major companies invested into ultralight mice in the first place. Their marketing really worked on you, huh?

>>718735084
>poop in every seam

>>718751637
you begin to notice it after using a light mouse for a while. going back to the regular 100 gram feels strange

>>718753718
All you're feeling is a difference of inertia.
There is zero evidence that it'll make your aim better, but if you prefer the feel I won't argue against that.

keychron m5
it's a flagship sensor in a vertical mouse shell
100g, top tier wireless and wired latency
though i've seen an ultralight 20g mouse with the same sensor and i'm wondering if losing the shape could be worth it if it meant shaving off 80% of the weight

>>718705698
loved my naga since 2010, i've been through 3 of them.
one had scrollwheel failure after 6 years, the next one got mangled when i was hauling it to a mates for a lan, the top shell peeled back on the right click, tearing out the switch and crushing.
i bought a naga trinity (wired, of course) and i've used it since.
im kind of bummed though, the 12 button panel is losing connection randomly, and im forced to use the synapse software to disable the fucking scroll wheel side click bullshit, so im looking for a new 12 button MMO mouse, since the new ones are actual dogshit, had a mate buy one since they saw i was enjoying mine, and it had faulty swtiches on arrival, he returned it, and got another, with a dead scrollwheel on arrival, he returned it and got some steelseries monster instead.
im honestly wondering if i can dig those 2 broken mice out of my parents electronic waste room and Frankenstein them together, either jamming the second ones encoder into the first, or the firsts swtiches and top shell onto the second.
give me 12 side button mouse suggestions

>>718751156
>i've used a regular mouse 12-16hrs a day for 24ish years with zero strain injuries
you're still underage though

>>718754941
i'm 30 but yes i suppose i'm rather young at heart! thanks for noticing. heh.

>>718754974
How can you play 12-16hrs a day as 30 year old. Something doesn't make sense here.

>>718755017
use your own imagination about ways a person can make money without working
some of these ways also don't have an asset cap and you can make additional money with stocks and it doesn't count as income

>>718755128
>use your own imagination about ways a person can make money without working

you're euro fag so government money.

>>718755164
american but yes

>>718704404
That looks kinda good.
I'll check it out

>>718755447
sorry anon they don't make it anymore, only ones you'll find are used for double the price

>>718704108 (OP)
razer basilisk v3, wired
the middle mouse click is starting to become unreliable after ~1.5 years of use
not a good sign

>>718709525
>but it has hot swappable switches, which is now a mandatory requirement when I look for a new mouse to buy.
You don't need to worry about that if you a mouse with optical switches. Mechanical ones are just outdated tech at this point.

what is a good g600 replacement
that wont break the bank?

MX518 till I fucking die.

>>718755724
mechanical switches are superior to optical if the contacts are gold plated (eg D2F-01F)
also the latency of properly-done mechanical switches (like those on the Endgame gear mice or on Zaunkoenig's) will always be a little better than optical

>>718755754
CoolerMsster MM730. Hidden gem.

>>718750847
You don't trust wireless devices? In what way? If it's performance/reliability you're worried about - pros use wireless mice in tournaments. Wireless tech for peripherals is entirely reliable nowadays.

>>718755891
NTA but every wireless mouse I've tried has increased DPC latency, which matters to me as I work in audio.

>>718755785
No? Gold plating improves durability significantly, but there is still wear where there would be none with an optical switch and thus performance will degrade over the lifespan. Higher price on top of that. Also, optical switches have no debounce delay, whereas mechanical ones do.

>>718750847
the best wired mouse has 0.6ms of latency and is $90
the best wireless mouse has 0.9ms of latency and is $70
your clicks registering 3/10000ths of second slower is a small price to pay for no cable drag

>>718756125
Can happen, but that's more of a driver issue than one inherent to wireless tech. Still, that's not my area of expertise - in gaming, wireless is not an issue at all anymore, else it would not be a thing at the highest levels of play where it could cost you prize money in the $ 100,000s

Razer Viper V2 Pro. Earlier I had Viper 8khz (not knowing no game atm can handle 8khz kek) and I really liked Viper's shape so I just stayed with it
>>718704926
How do you even clean this shit? My hands sweat a lot, after ~2 weeks of gaming those holes would be filled with mix of sweat and dust,

>>718756150
gold plated microswitches don't degrade in timespans that can occur within human lifespans. no one has even worn out a D2F-01F. the only thing that can happen is the leaf spring can lose its tension, but that happens with optical switches too. sooner, because they're not as time-tested.

>Higher price on top of that
optical switches are more expensive, don't you know you need an entire LED for every switch? which also puts considerations upon battery life if it's a wireless mouse. ever wonder why "optical switch" mice have mechanical mouse3/mouse4/mouse5?

> Also, optical switches have no debounce delay, whereas mechanical ones do.
optical switches essentially contain two forms of DAC which both add 100% unavoidable delay that cannot be reduced or eliminated through any means. optical switches WILL ALWAYS be slower than properly implemented mechanical switches which use zero-delay debounce methods (eg. SPDT)

>>718756383
>more of a driver issue than one inherent to wireless tech.
True, howevr it doesn't matter as all the wireless mice I've tried have dogshit drivers that constantly poll at their highest polling rate regardless of DPI/sensor setting, and that can cause huge DPC latency spikes. I don't gain any advantage from using a wireless mouse to begin with, wires are no trouble for my setup, so I simply don't want to bother with wireless mice due to the risk of increased DPC latency via bad wireless drivers. I always opt for a "plug-and-play" mouse (i.e. no driver/bloatware requirement) for the same reason.

There's more to a mouse than playing shooter games.

>>718710378
>g600
I have seen only 1 other mouse with the ring finger button and the 12 macros on the side. some EVGA mouse. I tried it and it was insanely uncomfortable
it's a good thing I have 8 g600 spares sitting around. I never want to use another mouse as long as I live. boggles my mind how nobody else is doing the ring finger button thing

>>718747646
I admit, it's mostly just sticking to 'it works, why change it' principle. Definitely a lot better alternatives out there, but I always come back for the one and only

i've never had audio issues with my vidya despite using a wireless mouse, keyboard and controller all at the same time on my pc, so my only conclusion is that dpc latency is a meme

>>718756932
That's not really what DPC latency affects.
It can affect roundtrip latency of audio, i.e. if you record audio and want to simultaneously hear (monitor) its playback during recording (say if you want to record bass as a DI, for example), then DPC latency issues will become your worst nightmare.

>>718704108 (OP)
my g502 died after four or five years so I replaced it with the new wireless g502x
love how the optical switches feel
the latency increase is negligible and I haven't had any connection issues but I'm a high dpi fag so my mouse is always at optimal distance to the dongle
wish the DPI switch paddle was longer; it's too short to for my usual retardo grip but it's removable so I was thinking of just making a longer one

>>718757167
so it only affects people who produce music for a living? i guess it’s only a problem for 0.001% of the population then

>>718756437
Fine, the wearing out of gold switches is pretty much irrelevant, but the optical switch eliminates it entirely.

Mate, these LEDs cost nothing and their power draw is completely irrelevant to the batteries of wireless mice. You get budget mice with optical switches nowadays. And m3/etc are usually mechanical (non-gold) because they're still cheaper and these buttons are used far less, so not nearly as prone to failure.

And optical switches don’t run through “two DACs”. They use a photodiode circuit with nanosecond propagation delay, far below debounce times (which are in the ms range). Yes, good mice with SPDT switches and proper firmware handling have virtually no debounce delay (it's <1ms), but you need no such trickery for optical switches.

I will agree that if you buy at the highest quality, then the difference between optical and mechanical is irrelevant in terms of durability, delay, and cost. It mostly comes down to the actually feeling of a mouse click, which is personal preference. But when compared to "normal" mechanical switches, nah, optical switches are superior.

>>718757304
>so it only affects people who produce music for a living?
pretty much.
Even LatencyMon, the most popular tool to measure DPC latency, will literally state to you that your system is suitable for handling real-time audio tasks if you pass the tests. Like I said, I work in audio so this matters to me. It won't matter to gamers.

>>718757328
>Mate, these LEDs cost nothing and their power draw is completely irrelevant to the batteries of wireless mice.
retard
LED is the most power-hungry feature on a modern mouse, far outstripping the MCU and photosensor
even the sensor's "power draw" is mostly from the infrared LED hence why all LEDs in wireless mice have aggressive dormancy states
i've made mice, you're a retard online. won't bother to read the rest of your post

>>718711296
mine is 158 at 100%

>>718757439
not the guy you're replying to but i'm curious are you in the industry or hobbyist? how true is it that pixart has monopoly on all the gaming sensors such that you can't even build your own mouse?

>>718758794
it is true and what's more, pixart will gouge you on prices for sensors if you're a small company making mice. i was paying $50 for PMW3360 when it was new while the big companies could get them for $20 or less for their "collaboration" version with minor firmware tweaks. razer and logitech in a sense collude with pixart, it's a mutual relationship based on paranoia.

pixart's sensors are also full of random bugs, the QC on firmware is not good nowadays, to the extent that you might say older sensors are superior in reliability. eg.:
https://www.reddit.com/r/MouseReview/comments/1i1qt0e/3395_3950

>>718756932
I have dpc latency issues but from the nvidia driver. Absurd high polling rates can cause dpc latency and a lot of wireless mice can go up to 8k when 1k is plenty.

>>718759047
damn that sucks. are you still in the industry? landscape has pretty much changed since then though now we have chink mice that costs less than $20 using a previous gen sensor.

>>718728302
Fantastic mouse, sadly the cord on mine started to fail and the mouse kept disconnecting and reconnecting which is apparently a common problem.

>>718744182
Get rid of that center dot, they should be on the corners only

>>718746409
Well, yeah. Nothing lasts forever.

>>718741751
>model i
>has 4 buttons instead of 3
>still have to deal with their gay software but only once to rebind the buttons if needed

>>718717656
I have this and it's prebby good, would recommend for anyone that needs one

>>718704108 (OP)

Microsoft Compact Mouse for business and enterprise

>>718750894
I'm not a limp wristed fag that needs it in the first place, no

>>718761804
sovl

>>718762586
prevention is easier than curing

>>718733573
Yeah this is literally the ONLY one I can find in stock as new, but like you said it's expensive. I also prefer wired mice but at least it can be used wired. However, I've had bad experiences with all Logitech mice released this past decade. Their bloatware sucks, and their switches suck. I use my PC daily for work and gaymin, it needs to be highly durable mouse. It doesn't look comfortable to me either, but it's my only option aside from chinkshit or ebay/ali.

>>718755891
I don't trust them because they sound as if they are less realiable, but the most important, it would require more money.

>>718756330
A G502 can be found for less than 40€ during a sale. I think it's fair, even if its ms are much higher.
The cable is not bothering me, as it's held by something behind my monitor's stand, but I understand that it can bother someone else.

>>718704108 (OP)
i dont know, but similar to that, same brand and same buttons

>>718756330
characterizing wireless vs wired mice as only being about 0.3ms of latency is simply inaccurate. wired mice are more accurate for various reasons. one of EMI. your wireless mouse experiences unavoidable interference from many things, including 2.4ghz wifi, poorly shielded microwaves (and almost all of them are poorly shielded,) your neighbor's microwave, competing 2.4ghz devices like printers, etc.

i guarantee if you download MouseTester and microwave a hot pocket, your wireless mouse's report graph will show hundreds/thousands of errant reports. your wired mouse won't unless the cable is utter dogshit. if it's an 8khz mouse it REALLY won't because the cable shielding has to be very very good on 8khz mice.

>>718706138
I have the endgame xm2 wired as well and I feel like it's too long for my hand and giving me pain in the fingers over time

>>718704108 (OP)
i use a wired version of this thing. I need to replace the bearings with ceramic though, i have a bit of stickiness to the trackball. it's pretty nice though.

>>718704108 (OP)
>Razer Basilisk V3 on sale for 45$
>not even a month later the scroll wheel breaks so it's in that permanent slide mode
>drooling retards tell you to use the razer malware and it'll fix it
>it does not
>turns out it's a common issue
Imagine paying FULL price for this piece of shit, thank god for returns

this is not a meme

>>718767770
compared to a keychron m5 it absolutely is

>>718704108 (OP)
That one
Replaced the board and I'm using silent yellow huano switches
Not a single mouse I would rather have than this one.

>>718767770
>logitech in 2025
nah, that thing won't last past the 2 year mark, the rubber parts will start turning to goo and something will break.

>>718704108 (OP)
>which mouse do you use?
currently using the WLmouse Beast X Pro.

Anybody have any obscure trackball mouse recommendations? i know about the meme gameball, that thing sucks i swear people must be paid to shill it.

>>718767770
This helped my wrist so much I bought another one for the office
t. unc

>>718712098
i threw my viper ultimate against a wall playing company of heroes 3, it was still working but the shell and left click (not the switch) was completely fucked. ended up going with a viper v2. no meme 4k bullshit, they deleted the ambi buttons and rgb to reduce weight. i paid about 80 usd.

>>718767936
How so? I've never heard of it

>>718767770
Why don't they make gayming mice like this? Decrease weight, better sensors, better switches, let's go. Ergonomics are important.

>>718704108 (OP)
steelseries rival, they don't make em like they used to (mostly the shape)

>>718768953
>they deleted the ambi buttons
This is something more and more companies do and it's so fucking retarded. There's a limit to sensible weight reduction and it's crossed when you remove useful buttons that weigh fuck all.

>>718705502
do you have a left handed keyboard too then where the WASD keys are on the right edge
or are you some mutant that uses the numpad or arrow keys?

>>718767770
i'm probably going to have to get one of these for ARPG's. its the only genre that aggravates my carpal tunnel.

>>718769156
i sympathize for my left handed gamers but since i was forcibly converted to rightism as a child i just didn't need them.

G305, bought it not long ago to replace my old corsair M45 since it was 12yo, so far its great, been using the same battery for 4 months, it doesn't have any LED lights and the speed regulator is nice, i hope i can use it for 10y or more

>>718710378
They still make them for Japan, but it's called logicool there

>>718704108 (OP)
I just bought the one in OPs pic. I hope it's good, haven't started using it yet. My PC parts just came in and I'm gonna start building my pc in a few hours.

>>718768046
I've been using it daily for little over 3 years now. No issues except staining (don't get white).

>>718704108 (OP)
Some $30cad logitech

>>718769512
I'm righthanded and I still appreciate them.

>>718704108 (OP)
I've used this mouse every day for like 7 years and it still hasn't double-clicked a single time. GOAT mouse.

>>718704108 (OP)
Deathadder v2.
The rubber on the sides is wearing off because my sweat melts that kind of stuff and it's bothering me and I can't find a reasonably priced replacement piece of rubber.

Is there a vertical mouse with an unlockable scroll wheel and decent amount of side buttons out there? I don't have carpal tunnel but I can feel the strain from twisting my forearm and it's not very comfy. Always felt like this but vertical mice look so fucking strange that I thought it's some weird gimmick.
Are there any downsides to using one?

The ol' reliable, Logitec M510.

>>718768968
it's a top tier sensor wrapped in a verical mouse shell
basically as good as those esports mice

anybody else notice almost all the hands posted in this thread are brown?

>>718710818
buy an ad faggot

>>718767186
well i came from the zowie which was >>718706415
huge compared to the xm2 so it;'s not really an issue for me - i've played nearly all day when i'm not working and no issues with pain or discomfort - i originally used an EC series zowie for many years but after a terrible accident with shoulder surgery and pinning my arm muscle back to the bones i went with the FK due to it feeling better and the XM2 has been great so far

>>718704108 (OP)
every mouse I've ever owned has eventually developed problems with random doubleclicks on the left and right mousebuttons and the scrollwheel occasionally jittering in the wrong direction while scrolling
is there any mouse on the market that doesn't have these problems?

>>718774125
i doubt it, has to do with the materials the switchs are made of. plastic just doesn't stand up to decade+ of wear and tear like that.

>>718713605
nta but my superlight 2 is fine
plastic is sturdy, battery doing fine and side buttons arent really mushy
if youre playing games where you would use them a lot i could see why you wouldnt like them but they still have a clicky switch

i did hear the superlight ergo was flimsy as fuck though beacuse they didnt add enough support for the larger size, i guess to keep weight down

>>718774125
any mouse with optical switches

razer with 2 side buttons

>>718706118
>mx500
>mx510
>mx518
>g400
>g400s
>mx518/g400s HERO
yup only mice that matters

>>718704108 (OP)
I just want a mouse of reliable build that that doesn't have double clicking, mouse wheel jumping, programmable DPI button on the fucking BOTTOM OF THE MOUSE or the thumb button that fucks with your grip.

All while not being too small, flat as fuck for no reason, or having the stupid holes to make it "light".

Does something like this even exist in the current grift economy? I pretty much gave up.

>>718704108 (OP)
g502
I'll probably buy another one after this one breaks

>>718774664
no, but if you can find an MX500 in good shape that would probably be the closest you could get

>>718746501
I've been using this mod for 16 months and the coating is just as good but it discolored as you can see.

Now that Gwolves released the Fenrir/Fenris there's no point to the Cyber 4.

>>718774664
If the buttons are programmable your could just unbind then

>tfw i fell for the "Razer Essential" trap
That shit lasted me 1 year. It wasn't even a good mouse. Fuck Razer i'm never trusting them again. Got a Logi 502 after that

>>718774664
the market right now is AIDS
I hope you find your dream mouse anon. I'm still looking for mine among this heap of "ultralight" cheap shit.

>>718775869
It is extremely fucking bad.
I wanted to try either Basilisk V3 or G502X. Ended up having big gripes with both that could have been fixed if they just stopped putting dumb shit on otherwise decent-feeling mice.

G502X and non-X are utter shit to hold onto. X has the thumb button detatchable but the whole ergonomics are just garbo, plus double clicking because the switches are not fully optical.

Basilisk V3 has a non-removable thumb button, and people complain about the wheel giving out too.

I'm sticking to the death adder V3 right now because it's as close as I can get to something ok. And I just RMA'd it because the wheel would start jumping or missing some ticks.

>>718774479
Does optical actually help when you're still rubbing plastic against plastic?

>>718769602
I give it one year max before you double click.

>>718775196
yeah been thinking of getting the asym but i wanna try my hand at 3d modeling my own fingertip sized clone of it with a cheap aliexpress mouse's internals first. good to hear its just discoloration though i'll probably get it mjf nylon printed like yours.

>>718769602
>G305
My condolences.
I threw mine in the trash after it become double-click hell. Its battery life is great, but its switches are atrocious.

>>718706118
A mouse so good, they had to stop making them as they weren't getting repeat business when the mouse lasts more than a decade.

I wanna try those ultralight knockoff on aliexpress but I'm stingy
shit like the scryox and stuff

$5 cheap Rii mouse for general computing, and a secondary $24 Razer Deathadder essential for gaming. paired up with a Logitech k120 keyboard.

>>718777318
it stops double clicks entirely
they are caused by poor connections in the switch but since the optical switch is just a laser that checks if its being blocked or not you cant get two clicks unless you actually press twice

i never had that issue with the scroll wheel youre talking about but scroll wheels are always optical afaik

Scyrox V6

>>718774605
>>mx518/g400s HERO
This thing is a piece of shit and the wire is so shoddy the entire mouse breaks in the most esoteric of ways within a few years. Bought it for my dad to replace my hand-me-down G400 which started having connection issues and now it's worthless. The old G400 actually still functions even with its own wire problems. I'm glad they discontinued it even if it was for the most cynical reasons imaginable to prevent more people from being suckered in.

>>718706118
there is a chink copycat with modern insides...right?

>>718704108 (OP)
Microsoft office mouse

>>718704108 (OP)
idk some chinese mouse i got for ~ $10

Is the razor deathadder a meme

>>718783828
fuck chinks

>>718783975
they make 90% to 99% of all mice in the world tho

>>718782073
>the entire mouse breaks in the most esoteric of ways within a few years
it's lasted me since they released it, what the fuck does your dad do with his mouse?

>>718784202
fuck chinks