Thread 718838779

Is it safe to say that this is Platinum's best looking game in over a decade? Was Nintendo holding them back?

>>718838779 (OP)
Nintendo obviously did if you look at their games before and after Nintendo.

Overall I think Nintendo was a bad influence on Platinum, because they seemed to encourage their weakest aspect (gimmicky bullshit) while discouraging their strength (deep fun combat mechanics). Bayo 2 and 3 went harder on the spectacle but both lack refined gameplay of Bayo 1. I know some people swear by Wonderful 101, but I couldnt stand it because there's a fucking MINIGAME every other step you take. Hearing the NG4 director talking about how he wanted the variety in the game to feel more "natural" with the base gameplay such as the light stealth or platforming gives me hope.

>>718838779 (OP)
The switch hardware certainly was.

>>718840162
Bayo 3 was honestly way too fucking ambitious for the Switch 1 hardware, I don't know what the fuck they were thinking.

Predict Ryu's DLC weapons, I'm guessing staff and twin swords are off the table since Yakumo already gets those

>>718838779 (OP)
>platinum
if it is tech then probably team ninja

Think we'll gdt to play as the white haired girl?

>>718838779 (OP)
And yet it still looks worse than even Ninja Gaiden Black

>>718844923
Why?

>>718844835
I doubt it, the DLC seems finalized and I don't think they plan on supporting the game further

>>718844923
Looks like halfway between NG2 and NG3RE with a bit of Platinum sprinkled in (kino game)

>>718838779 (OP)
Literal goyslop
this will be the final nail to coffin for both team ninja and platinum

>>718841775
Hey that actually looks pretty decent
If only those blood decal don't disappear and you could see more body parts flying

>>718846778
has any NG ever had blood that didn't disappear?

>>718838779 (OP)
It's amazing how much better this looks than the trash Switch 2 fags are hyped for like that Daemon X Machina game. How is that piece of shit actually selling with no games?

>>718846628
>slopschizo
Keep spamming it.

DMR status?

The environment where it looks like you're inside a gaming pc case are the worst and equal to sewer levels

>>718848079
The enviroment actually looks like it was designed to be fun to fight enemies in, unlike NG3 with its cramped hallways and awkward geometry that makes wall running way less viable

>>718848079
Yeah I'm hoping for some more variety going forward.

>Boot up Black 2 after not playing on release
>Game now has insane levels of input lag
So I guess some driver update fucked this game up? Also is it literally impossible to get rid of the input lag completely?

Does anyone here nows how to paly the NGS2 black mod? On a pirated copy? The faggot piece of shit modder shuts down your game if it detects your copy is not legit.
I tried using the smart steam emu, but I still need the legit steam file, not the cracked one to run the game with the mod properly.

>>718838779 (OP)
Nintendo basically kept them in the cuckshed. They could never unleash their full power level

Looks like some 3rd person action game template for the UE5 marketplace, what's going on with the industry?

>>718841775
Talons, Scythe, Flails

>>718848027
You can pirate it day one, it doesn't have deshito

>>718852253
Why not just give up on it and emulate OG2? If your machine could play the UE5 game it can probably run the original on xenia

>>718838779 (OP)
what the actual fuck have they done to NG??

>>718841775
tonfa
but on the otherhand, if its a dlc i guess it wouldnt hurt to put all of his weapons in NG4

Their recent non-Nintendo games have been fucking NieR Automata and Babylon’s Fall. I think it’s more just that they’re collaborating with Team Ninja and TN has had a huge influence on balance which Platinum has been terrible at as of late.

>>718838779 (OP)
The fate of Platinum, Ninja Gaiden and stylish action games all rest on this game's success

>>718854447
>Their recent non-Nintendo games
what the fuck kind of a segregation is that? So what if Astral Chain was funded by Nintendo? It's a pure Platinum game from start to finish.

Babylon’s Fall was Square's game. They demanded a GAAS slop. Platinum had nothing on that decision which murdered any potential in the cradle.

>>718838779 (OP)
>Was Nintendo holding them back?
Mikami was holding Platinum back.

>>718854447
>>718855881
Ignore my retarded post I didn't even read OP's faggot bait

>>718838779 (OP)
Faggot

>>718852523
>>718852523
>>718852523
>>718852523
anyone?

Bump

>>718852523
>>718856142
>ngs2 BLACK
huh, they weren't kidding

To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to appreciate Ninja Gaiden. The gameplay is so complex, you’d need a firm understanding of quantum physics just to parse the hitboxes. The hitboxes operate on a subatomic level and the enemy AI patterns are essentially chaotic systems governed by strange attractors. Ryu’s i-frames function like quantum tunneling events, letting him phase through damage in ways that defy classical mechanics. I’m currently developing a unified field theory that explains the Essence economy. But of course, that’s only for those who’ve cleared Path of the Master Ninja without taking Planck-scale damage.

>>718838779 (OP)
I do miss the old games clarity and readability instead of seeing picturesque photos that is today
this is the reason why you hate modern games right?

>>718838779 (OP)
why it has cyberpunk ui -_-

>>718841775
I hope we get new weapons, at least one, but I doubt it.
So for me
>Falcon Talons
>Enma's Fang
>Kusarigama

>>718844923
What do you mean than even Ninja Gaiden Black? It's the best in the trilogy.

are you guys getting this on steam or playing it with xbox gamepass? I'm not sure what the meta is with the xbox shit nowadays, is it worth the hassle?

What would you have done in his situation?

>>718858862
Gross

>>718859367
You can just admit you can't handle the pace of 2/3re

>>718858862
https://www.nexusmods.com/ninjagaidenmastercollection/mods/314

>>718838779 (OP)
NG4 plot leak:

This shot from the trailer is taken from the aftermath of the last time Yakumo and Ryu clash with eachother. Yakumo uses his special powers to defeat Ryu and is deciding whether to give Ryu the death blow or spare his life. The shot is Yakumo looking at the severely cut down and battered body of Ryu. Seori begs Yakumo that he shouldn't kill Ryu, because both the dragon ninja clan and raven clan are descendants of the dark dragon and both have their role to play. She reminds Yakumo that his objective is to kill the dark dragon and with Ryu Hayabusa defeated, he can proceed and fight the dark dragon without other forces trying to interrupt and stop him. Yakumo spares Ryu as he concludes that Ryu won't get in his way anymore and continues on.

During this game it will be revealed that the dark dragon is acting as a bullwark to prevent a greater evil from entering the human world and that the demons that were allowed to enter the human world with the advent of the dark dragon were meant as obstacles for the various ninja clans to overcome, so humanity could grow stronger and one day be ready to face what lies beyond. The dark dragon also bestowed powers to the various ninja clans. The DDO and Ryu believe that the best strategy is to keep the dark dragon in a prison seal indefinitely, Ryu literally has a line in the game in which he admits that he is afraid of what lies beyond the dark dragon and that he doesn't want to risk a devestation to humanity, while Yakumo and the Raven Clan believe that the Raven Clan is strong enough to once and for all kill the dark dragon and face whatever lies beyond and exterminate that and the source of the demons so that humanity can finally be free from it all.

Yakumo proceeds to kill the dark dragon and the game ends. The DLC sets up Yakumo and Ryu as the two masters who will have to face a greater evil. The DLC is an introduction to a follow up world for a potential Ninja Gaiden 5.

>>718860349
>trust me bro

>>718860349
Yakumo is a badass, can't wait for this Platinum KINO.

>>718860180
>Refuses to shake woman's hand
Inshallah

>>718841775
>Scythe
>Falcon's Talons
>Kusari-gama
>Dabilahro
I honestly hope he gets something brand new, these are just some of my favorites from the previous games.

>>718860043
Buying it on Steam to have my own save files and game data to hopefully allow some mods, and to give Koei Tecmo money for bringing NG back I guess.

Why does every environment look like Mirror's Edge?

Was Ryu playable at Gamescom? Did they ever show off what he'd have in place of the Blood weapon mode?

>>718860180
Bark like a true ninja dog

>>718861730
Pretty sure Ryu's version of bloodraven form is called Gleam mode and it eats ninpo meter while you're in it.

>>718838779 (OP)
gameplay wise it looks great but i'm disappointed in the environment especially when platinum last game was bayonetta 3 which had great environment, this looks to be even worse than dmc v which i fucking hated, do we know what each studio worked on? because one of the reasons i dropped nioh was the boring level design and enviornment

>>718861642
It doesn't look like Mirrors Edge at al.

>>718863656
Pretty sure NG4 is entirely made by Platinum with only TN in an advisory role

>>718863656
Isn't this a kneejerk reaction when we have no idea how all the levels look and a developer said that the variety in levels increase as you get later into the game.

>>718863656
>bayonetta 3 which had great environment
Bait

>>718863656
>because one of the reasons i dropped nioh was the boring level design and enviornment
Nobody played nioh for the level design
>bayonetta 3
Dogshit game

>>718838779 (OP)
does it also run like complete ass due to US5lop implications as the webm implies or is it just a shit webm

>>718838779 (OP)
I really need this game to come out already, Ive been itching for some good action game for a long time, recent ones like Stellar Blade were meh

>>718847434
>Daemon X Machina
Thats coming to everything

>>718864987
Shit webm. Specs are very low.

>>718855881
>nintendo tardwrangling them means nothing, it's all thanks to platinum
>but SE tardwrangling them means it's SE's fault the game was bad
that's not how it works bud

>>718859067
This but unironically

>>718864491
Yes it did, it had one of the best enviironments in the cag genre the exploration was fun too
>>718864326
>>718864359
if platinum made the entire game then i will give them the benefit of the doubt
>>718864836
i mainly play souls and souls like for the level design and exploration if i wanted combat i will play any cag which will be most likely better
>Dogshit game
it was great just because it had an f tier story in a genre that has c tier stories at the very best doesn't mean it's bad

>>718865248
>souls like for the level design and exploration
Nioh leandls entirely into combat. Similarly to khazan after it. Difficult to go back to souls for me after dividing my time between those and replaying gaidens in time for ng4

>>718865134
>>718852703
well damn, nice to see an actually well optimized game for once
just not having denuvo alone likely means it would actually run on almost anything

>>718865248
>Yes it did, it had one of the best enviironments
like uhhh.... a desert.... and uhh green filter tokyo

>>718845452
> I don't think they plan on supporting the game further
What would make you say that?

>>718860180
Love from Kazakhstan!

>>718864987
its on platinum engine afaik

huge plus imo

>>718845452
Wouldn't be upset as long as their next game actually comes out within the next year or earlier.

>>718865349
nioh combat isn't good enough for me to tolerate all the other dogshit design, i immediately dropped 2 when the 2nd level was just exactly the same as the first but light blue with the same enemies but light blue
>>718865496
and china and paris, and there was tons of shit to find in every level, compared to most cag yes it was great.

>>718865897
>nioh combat isn't good
>2nd level
>talks about level not combat
Holy filtered

>>718859067
I've seen people here get filtered by a simple boss like the worm so yeah.

>>718864987
It's just a shit webm because something was wrong the recording in the video during this part. It's not running on Unreal Engine 5. The spec requirements on PC are super super low.

DMC5 was so kino, I hope NG4 can surpass it. I really want NG5. I think if the game sells 2 million before fiscal year is over then NG5 might be a lock.
It would be so awesome to get DMC6 and NG5 around the same time.

>>718866321
so how was NG4?

>>718838779 (OP)
>neon cyberpunk ai generated unreal engine 5 texture pack
Kind of lame.

Also: Sigma 1 > Ng2 > Ragebound > Ng3re > Black 2 > Black 1 > Sigma 2 > Ng3

>>718866418
Good but not as good as 6
t. 2031

>>718866087
i already played the first nioh until the nobunaga and his wife fight so it isn't like i'm unfamiliar with the combat, i just don't find it that good to tolerate the shitty level design and low enemy variety when i saw the same exact enemies at the 2nd level but blue i noped the fuck out

i could just play any fromsoftware for the exploration or any cag for the combat there's no reason for me to waste my time on nioh, it's like sony movie games, i could just watch a movie and play a better game instead of playing an inferior version of both

>>718838779 (OP)
it just looks like unreal engine shit to me
nier came out in 2017

>>718866321
>DMC5 was so kino
fuck no it wasn't
once the novelty of HOLY SHIT THEY ACTUALLY MADE A NEW DMC GAME wore off it turned out to be a playdough cave simulator where you fight with less tools than you did on 4 and with less snappy combat
it legitimately felt like westoids made the game, especially with how atrocious the aesthetic was compared to the 3 games prior to it, it basically looked like the DmC reboot but again and somehow even more drab and boring

>>718866508
Was ragebound even good, heard so many complaints about how easy it was.
For me
Sig1>2>modded sig2>RE>the rest in whatever order, didn't care for then incl black2

>>718866508
why do you even like Sugma 1 so much

>>718839957
astral chain was a pretty well realized experiment though

>>718866543
>low enemy variety
This is a problem with 1, not 2
>or any cag for the combat
Combat in nioh (and stranger of paradise) is interesting and unique enough to stand on its own apart from either genre.

>>718863656
>platinum last game was bayonetta 3 which had great environment
You're getting shit for this but I agree, segments like the chase in Tokyo where you play as idol Bayo or the part where demons first appear in Egypt have top tier skyboxes etc. and it'd be uncontroversial to recognise them as such if there weren't a million manufactured controversies and arbitrary narratives surrounding the game

>>718866643
It's like black minus the adventure stuff that made replays kinda tedious

>>718866321
dmc5 was dogshit
>enemies that don't fight back
>0 exploration and shitty enviornment
>dogshit mission design cutscene walk battle walk battle cutscene battle

honestly might as well delete the campaign and just have cutscenes between bloody palace levels it would probably more enjoyable

>>718866596
I thought it was amazing and it's my favorite.

>>718866801
You're forgetting
>V chapters

>>718866801
I don't get why people hold DMC5's exploration against it when it has more exploration than NG2 and 3 and some missions that are less linear than 3 and 4.

>>718866801
>bloody palace levels
Speaking of which, even bloody palace tiers in 5 looked like ass.
It feels like you're fighting in a gas station public urinal.

>>718866857
>Both look like they are fighting inside sludge while wearing weighted clothes.
I hate DMCniggers so much.
Just drop the pretense and move to rollslop like the rest of the normalfags.

>>718866321
I really hope NG4 is good and does well but I'm worried it won't have the same pull as DMC due to the story and characters. There's a ton of casuals who literally just play DMC for that and they do a lot of the heavy lifting for sales. Like people who play the game twice is literally less than 10% according to achievements. I'm not saying NG should have the tone and style of DMC, but this is clearly a huge factor in the game's success.

Maybe NG4 will manage to break the curse of weak NG stories and deliver something more entertaining like MGR, or at the least just something solid

>>718866543
>or any cag
But not every cag plays exactly the same, Nioh also has its own unique qualities, combat flow with mechanics like flux has its own distinctive flavor

>>718866596
>where you fight with less tools than you did on 4
It objectively has way more than 4, there isn't even anything to argue there.
>how atrocious the aesthetic was compared to the 3 games prior
Yeah, can't forget those beautiful gray hallways that make up 95% of DMC3. DMC4 is the only game in the series with any color in its environments and if anything the DmC reboot is the second most interesting looking one.

>>718866902
those are so fucking dogshit everyone tends to memoryhole them

>>718866801
>0 exploration and shitty enviornment
>dogshit mission design cutscene walk battle walk battle cutscene battle
Sounds like NG2 lmao

>>718866927
as a RE spinoff (by technicalities) 1-3 were always about having a decent amount of exploration and "key in hole" puzzles
it wasn't stellar by any means but the puzzle segments helped have a balanced pacing between fights and chill moments to just take in the aesthetic, and on replays you already knew what to do so it doesn't waste much of your time either
even 4 despite being dumbed down to shit still had some of this to an extent
5 is just a corridor simulator straight up

>>718866321
>>718866857
Based DMC5 enjoyer, fantastic action game, one of the best really

>>718867075
>Maybe NG4 will manage to break the curse of weak NG stories and deliver something more entertaining like MGR, or at the least just something solid
The one track we heard in a boss fight was pretty hype. I didn't care for mgr story the same way I didn't care for ng stories but platinum will definitely bring some memorable hype moments

>>718866735
i literally said in 2 in the 2nd level i ran into the exact same enemies as the first level but blue, if they can't have different in the 2nd level then there's no hope for the rest
>>718866751
it's so annoying how much hate bayo 3 get from one side you have normalfags hating it for bayonetta being stright from other side you have dmcfags hating it because enemies can fight back and you can do more than walking in a straight line and battle
>>718866902
it's so funny seeing these people shit on viola when she's so much better than V
>>718866927
>>718867254
For me it's because ninja gaiden has the absolute best combat in the genre tied with god hand

>>718867117
>It objectively has way more than 4, there isn't even anything to argue there.
Take out the borderline RNG disposable arms of nero and it very much does not.
Dante himself is also worse on 5 than on 4 due to being balanced around clunky super devil trigger mechanics and half his arsenal literally being dupes and reskins.

>>718867398
>i literally said in 2 in the 2nd level i ran into the exact same enemies as the first level but blue
Then you're missing out on kino because you expect soulsslop. Sad

>>718867482
>Take out the borderline RNG disposable arms of nero and it very much does not.
You clearly don't know much about Nero in 5. He has way more tech.

>>718867303
>1-3 were always about having a decent amount of exploration and "key in hole" puzzles
They had none of that shit, they were all corridor simulators but sometimes you were forced to backtrack through the same corridors.

>>718867570
>If I intentionally reword what was said to make it sound bad then I win the argument.
And this is why nobody likes DMCniggers.

>>718866857
Bloated boss HP is lame.

>>718867398
I think V mogs Viola tbqhwyfamalam.
He feels really original and creative, a very unique archetype for this genre.
The big flaw with V is that he has too few moves to use.
Viola is just plain awful all around and has no spark of originality. It was just Plat wanting to replicate Nero without any of the thought behind it. They had to patch the game after it launched because of how crappy she felt to play, so her a lot of her framedata got updated so she feels better. She still has one of the worst DT mechanics in the genre and the automated cat attack suck ass.

>>718867761
Where are all his homies. Fighting 6 of these later on is a trip

>>718867482
Devil Sword Dante has a bigger moveset than Rebellion in 4.
Balrog has a bigger moveset than Gilgamesh.
Both Cavalier and Cerberus have bigger movesets than Lucifer.
That's 4 melee weapons in DMC5 vs 3 in DMC4, and every weapon in 5 is better than the ones in 4.
>>718867638
>literally copy and paste the exact statement
>"you reworded my statement bro"

one thing i never liked about dmc is it never lets you feel truly free with the movement, not even with multiple enemies on screen
you always either teleport snap to enemies or have rather short dash/rolls, maybe a forward dash when locked into an enemy, not much else

>>718867761
This is just cope by 2fags because the bosses in that game are so unbelievably shit that being over in 15-20 seconds is a blessing.
2-3 minute boss fights is not bloated.
NG boss fights tell no story, you barely even get to listen to the themes before they're over. There are no highs and lows throughout the fight, no surprises.
Hopefully 4 will fix this.

>>718838779 (OP)
now if only they would have been more creative with the level design, enemy design and stuff like that then it would have been great. But all we have seen are these bland and boring white samurais everywhere and Sonic's rail slide....

>>718867984
That sounds more like a skill issue than anything else. It would be more helpful if you posted some video examples.

>>718868062
Tbf most ng bosses suck. I'd be happy with 4 if the bosses are aggressive, engaging and have killer soundtracks.

>>718868142
We've actually seen a lot of different fiend type enemies and some mechanical enemies. They've just barely been spotlighted extensively if at all and only show up for a second or two in some trailers.
They're keeping a pretty tight lid on most of the game and mostly just showing the DDO stuff extensively.

>>718867979
>Devil Sword Dante has a bigger moveset than Rebellion in 4.
In the same game where sparda, rebellion and DSD itself recycle 90% of the same moveset.
It also doesn't help DSD is basically not a real weapon, it only exists to give you fancy flying swords to make you feel cooler despite doing the exact same combos you were already doing.
>Balrog has a bigger moveset than Gilgamesh.
Bruhdder, do you realize this is what I'm talking about with dupes and reskins?
If crapcom was going to reuse content I would rather have them bring 3's weapons back like artemis and nevan.
>Both Cavalier and Cerberus have bigger movesets than Lucifer.
I will complain about this because cavalier in particular is clunky dogshit unless you exclusively use it as a movement option, and even then you could just trickster.
KC is also worse than base cerberus due to cramming what effectively should have been 3 weapons into one and doing so rather poorly.

>>718861730
>Was Ryu playable at Gamescom?
nope, demo ended once you beat the boss

>>718868062
>needs fake hype music as a cope for shitty several minute long boss fights
You can always go back to soulshit, pleb.

>>718868393
Enjoy your sloppa

>>718868062
>2-3 minute boss fights is not bloated.
It is, they are just long enough to feel like a slog unless you are specifically doing DPS combos, which turns the game into a bore.
Reducing the health of the bosses just in half would do wonders on both 5 and 4, they just feel like damage sponges to sandbag with otherwise to the point distortion hits don't even feel like cheating.

>>718868393
I need something to cope with how shitty and abusable ng2 bosses are

>>718868310
>>Balrog has a bigger moveset than Gilgamesh.
>Bruhdder, do you realize this is what I'm talking about with dupes and reskins?
Are you fucking with us? Because most of Balrog's moveset was brand fucking new; we went from a Karate-inspired moveset to Boxing and Capoeira. Only a few of the special moves remained like Real Impact and the dive kick.

>>718868310
DSD opens up way more possibilities because the swords are independent from Dante, so you can do different things while the swords are doing something.
It's really extensive weapon.
Balrog isn't even a reskin or a dupe. It functions completely different from any other gauntlet weapon in the series. All the other gauntlet weapons are way more similar. Balrog is a wholly new type of gauntlet weapon in DMC
I don't see how KC is poorly doing 3 weapons at once. It just werks. Charge for lightning, swordmaster for pole, ice for everything else. It's straightforward.

>>718868310
>In the same game where sparda, rebellion and DSD itself recycle 90% of the same moveset.
And that's why I said DMC5 has 4 main weapons, not 6.
>Bruhdder, do you realize this is what I'm talking about with dupes and reskins?
Balrog plays completely differently to every other fist weapon in the series. Funny how you're not complaining about DMC4 reusing Rebellion and also having a fist weapon (which actually reuses a bunch of animations from the older ones).
>I will complain about this because cavalier in particular is clunky dogshit
>KC is also worse than base cerberus
Completely disagree. And what, Lucifer is some amazing weapon that's the pinnacle of game design?

>>718868836
>Funny how you're not complaining about DMC4 reusing Rebellion
Because DMC5 shit like has 3 rebellions with different models and lady's bazooka twice.

People are so dramatic. DMC5 was good, maybe it wasn't the best in the franchise in every single way but that's fine that doesn't make it unplayable dogshit that's better off not being made.

>>718869005
You're right

>>718868952
So? It still has 4 completely unique weapons, compared to the 3 in DMC4.

>>718869005
It was good AND popular, that's the problem. New thing bad you see can't have people enjoying a modern video game on /v/

>>718838779 (OP)
Playing as Yuffie in Intergrade has convinced me we need a ranged-focused character for Ninja Gaiden... Or at the very least a Ninja-Action FF game.

>>718852523
>he really thought mods work on pirated copies
lol poorfaggot and also retarded

another NG thread another set of 300-400 posts of DMCbabs having an inferiority complex and desperately trying to claim their game is not just slightly faster FROMslop

>>718869417
What makes something "FROMslop"?

>>718869240
Yakumo's new weapon gives him some cool ranged options.

>>718869168
It has 4 melee weapons for Dante, plus tweaks and a few moves for RQ, plus the Breakers adding a bunch of extra moves to round out Nero, plus the various guns.
And like him or hate him, V has a very unique playstyle for an action game.

>>718869005
I thought it was great overall. My only actual issue was that I didn't like the shift to realistic face-scanned character models (and I still don't). I'm glad they brought back fire gauntlets for Dante since I loved the ones he had in 1. Balrog felt absolutely amazing with those sway dodges and the whole move-set in general. I thought enemy aggression was fine on higher difficulties as well.

>>718838779 (OP)
Yeah, fuck Nintendo.

Im excited for NG4 and Lost Soul Aside, Im sure they will both have flaws (more in the cae of the latter) but Im tired of soulslike, proper action games is what need
https://youtu.be/wdJHVu7oocg?si=a0wS3QofIZGP5p8M

>>718869835
Oh this is finally fucking released? Look promising.

>>718869898
Next week

>>718869512
I meant sort of V style (except not dogshit) where you throw giant Shurikens, cast spells, and use projectiles to teleport around for aircombos/grabs
I'm making Yuffie sound more fun to play than she really is. FF7 is just a turn-based game pretending to be an action game

>>718866318
It will never not be funny how fucking autistic Jin is

>>718866596
No way man, DMCV has the best combat in the series unless you're a top 1% DMC4 player
But I agree that due to the absolutely awful art direction and the overall lack of Dante I ended up not playing it as much.

Devil May Cry 5 was a good game
Ninja Gaiden 4 also looks like it will be a good game.

Feels good not building your personality around liking just a single thing and shitting on everything else like some annoying sperg. Feels good to enjoy video games.

>>718870130
Yeah I hear ya! I mean I think we still need to see more of it but the new weapon has bombs and the windmill shuriken, note that he swaps weapons after dropping the bombs. Might not be exactly what your looking for but it could scratch that itch a bit.

>>718852523
Are you the same anon asking about this in every ng thread for almost 2 weeks now?

>>718870442
He is lol

>>718866321
Topping DMC5 isn't really that hard. Enemys were extremely braindead, levels were super linear, and being forced to play as V sucked

I loved Astral Chain and I wish Nintendo did ports.

How long will it take to get nude mods?

>>718870442
It's a bot.

Since when did "linearity' become a bad thing about these games? They're all completely linear, maybe you could argue NG1 had a little bit of exploration because of a few areas but even that game is 90% just go down the single path there is. Who the fuck is saying "Oh yeah that part where I had to pick up a key and backtrack for 30 seconds is what made Devil May Cry great"?

>>718870641
Nude yakumo? day 1

>>718870547
They weren't really anymore linear than 4's. Mission 15 is probably the least linear mission in the Itsuno trilogy of DMC games.

>>718870364
I saw that clip before but didn't notice he was throwing the bombs with the arm weapons, that's pretty cool
Hoping they put in a shitload of Ninja Trails too

>>718870590
I don't know why they let Nintendo buy the IP from them, AC was great and it could've been a big IP for them if they kept it. I think Nintendo will have them make 2 though.

>>718870465
Should just buy the master collection by now, holy shit.

>>718870839
Mission 15 is probably the least linear in the series. There is mission 17 in 3 but its really just backtracking through previous areas. Whereas 15 in 5 has four unique paths through the level.

>>718870918
Probably because they need the money.

>>718870918
they traded it for w101

>>718838779 (OP)
They made absolute garbage even outside of Nintendo, so no.

>>718870818
It's wrong anyway, an action game SHOULD be rather linear. Obviously don't be a giant corridor but otherwise the more often you do the fun part the better. ""Exploring"" is almost never fun for me at least and I wish I could appreciate it. It's fun in souls games but.. that's only because combat encounters aren't that fun either in those games.

>>718870921
maybe hes a man of principles that doesnt want to give valve more money to delist more jp games while.buying a yacht company
still retarded tho, just learn to de-drm the mod at that point

>>718870818
I think it's just old good new bad.
The beyblade and dice game was always crappy in 4 that grinded the pace to a complete halt because they didn't know what to put in the levels they made and had to fill up these super long hallways with something that wasn't enemies, instead you get some brainead god of war-tier glorified box moving minigame. People always shat on the platforming in 3 and 4.
5 comes out and now those things are actually good and soulful.
It's gonna happen again
DMC6 will get revealed, everyone will get hyped, tons of people on the board will make threads being excited for the series return, this makes people mad because popular and joyful feelings = contrarian bitterness response.
The game will come out, people will talk about it and make webms, then they will leave like mentally sane people and then a couple months later it's going to be 'shit' too and DMC5 was actually a return to fvrm and the kino Itsuno send-off that cut the bullshit and distilled it to its purest form while still introducing creative and original new aspects trying to push the genre forward and not just staying safe.

I liked Astral Chain

>>718871319
DMC's advantage was the exploration aspect that balanced out it's bad shit.
Without it, with shit enemy variety, enemies that don't do anything, shit weapon variety and shit techs beyond enemy step refreshing make it a fairy dull action game.

>>718871495
You're an absolute fucking retard

>>718870818
This genre has some of the worst rose tinted glasses out there. People praise DMC1 for its "RE level design" but they completely ripped out everything that makes RE level design interesting, there's no real "exploration" it's just super fucking linear with the occasional backtracking. The only one that I would consider somewhat of an action-adventure game is NGB like you said, but its more fun as a novelty, not a blueprint for the genre as a whole.

Both DMC and NG decided that giving up connected levels for the ability for each mission to just take place anywhere and this has huge advantages. NG2 literally has you traveling to different places across the world which literally wouldn't work with NGB's level design.

>>718871323
Maybe he's a favela monkey. Could have just emulated 2 for free too.

>>718870818
Again why not just remove the campaign? if it's just walk battle cutscene, why not just remove the boring walking and just have the cutscenes in bloody palace? it's not like dmc have interesting movement mechanics

>>718870818
I think its a hold over from the Gen 7 days when everything was linear corridors. Now with everything seemingly going open world or at least bigger, action games being linear is seen as bad. Or its just shitposting.

>>718871446
It was a very good game. Hope we get more.

>>718871598
>Could have just emulated 2 for free too.
can he even? heard even ps2 emulation needs slightly more than potato hardware compared to running games with actual ports

>>718871597
nta but I really liked how Ryu goes on a global mission around the world in NG2, only wish China and a Middle-Eastern country were also included. Would have been cool if Hong Kong and Jerusalem for example had a stage.

>>718871968
My steam deck can pull between 40-50fps on xenia ng2 but I prefer cloud saves of sig2 + I actually like black mod. I think the issue with ng2 emulation is other bugs like audio and inventory issues

Thoughts on the new Onimusha? I'm not too sure about it yet. I hope they release a demo.
On one hand the gameplay seems pretty close to the original games, closer to 1 and 2 than 3 and especially 4 though.
However, oni weapons seemingly only being canned abilities you activate rather than actual weapons sucks. Upgrading the different weapons and seeing them change their look was cool.
We also haven't seen the Onimusha transformation yet which makes me a bit worried.
On the other hand the level-design and enemy encounters look near-identical to Onimusha 1 and 2 which I personally dig. It feels like a throwback.

Whether you people like it or not the reason souls took over is because there are more to the games than combat, i'm making a game that has combat most similar to cag but i'm taking 0 inspiration from them when it comes to mission/level design because they all mostly suck if the bonus arena mode is equal or even more enjoyable than the campaign then it's a failure

>>718872481
I would argue the element that made Demon's Souls and Dark Souls so popular was the fantastic level design. The combat was always more functional, not bad, but the most notable thing about it was even weak enemies could kill you if you weren't treating them seriously. Of course it feels like exploring a fantastical world has taken a back seat to fighting spectacular bosses since Dark Souls 3 and the series has only grown more popular so what the fuck do I know.

>>718872253
I think it looks interesting and I love the original games but it will get ripped to shreds on /v/ and be labelled soulsslop.
Aesthetically I think it could look a bit better too but that's subjective

>>718872253
I really like the Jackie Chan approach, that being using things around you to fight and gain advantages with. Kind of wish the whole game was just that.

>>718872481
You're too late, people are starting to get sick of ARPG's and Soulslikes now. The gamers yearn for pure action kino

>>718872481
I only ever played souls once all the way through. I keep coming back to cags and adjacents like nioh year after year specifically because the combat is so fun and interesting. I don't really care for exploring post apocalyptic medieval kingdoms over and over if the combat sucks and the game is 40+ hours of said combat

>>718872253
I love all 4 Onis
But here I just dislike the art direction, I hate the super realistic and utterly lifeless animations most of all. The issens are the worst they've ever been, they don't have that impact from the original games. The boss fight seemed a bit more cool but they just had to do the stagger shit mechanic.
I'm a bit disappointed, it's no longer a must play for me at least right now.

>>718872253
As a huge DoD fan, I wanted the series to come back as something closer to that but this still might be okay. It looks like they're going for a more realistic and cinematic approach which could be hit or miss. I actually think the story seems interesting so far and Musashi seems like he'll be a good MC. I'm concerned about combat options though, I hope it's not too overly limited. A demo would help a lot.

>>718872253
It's too early to tell, a lot of the gameplay they have shown have been lots of flashy executions and cool animations, typical of AAA game trailers, I need to get a better idea of the games nuts and bolts gameplay

>>718872481
>the reason souls took over is because there are more to the games than combat
the difficulty meme is the only thing that carried dark snore's popularity.

>>718872481
>is because there are more to the games than combat
And in the process the combat ended up being incredibly subpar

>>718860180
Based gay

>>718872903
>huge DoD fan
What do you think about the western version being harder and more grindy?
I only heard about this recently. I like the game quite a bit but I found it really tedious at time, kinda bounced off of it, and only then I heard about how the localization modified the difficulty vs the JP version

Did I installed the mod correctly? Fiendbusa is an absolute retard who never documents everything so I had to search on Plebbit for the newest version that is also open source. I just dumped all the files and put on this folder. Is there anything else I need to do? I launched the game and there is no indication of the mod being applied.

>>718860180
She'll die protecting Yakumo and he's gonna regret that.

Sigma 2 is good when there's not a bitch in your ear telling you it's bad

>>718860180
>Ryu 'no way fag's Rachel
>Yakumo 'No way fag's Seyori

Ok he might be based now.

>og ryu
not a virgin, has a cute gf
>modern ryu
shitty virgin

>>718873497
>Fiendbusa is an absolute retard who never documents everything
Not much to document when instructions are just 'unzip in game folder'

I'm Yakumo

>>718866596
barry just typing shit

>>718872721
Yeah that's what i'm saying there were more to them than just the combat, also Elden ring has fantastic exploration, finding the elevator that leads to the underground was one of my best moments in gaming ever
>>718872792
people aren't tired of souls design they're tired of the shitty combat and let's be real most souls likes still can't touch fromsoftware level design
>>718872840
i'm far more likely to replay a souls game over replaying a cag but i'm also far more likely to replaying the bonus arena mode in cag over replaying a souls game
>>718873039
maybe at the beginning but there are lot more difficult souls likes than fromsoftware but they still can't touch fromsoftware
>>718873247
the only thing that affects the combat are the items and rpg elements, thare are 0 reasons a cag can't have good exploration more open levels dungeons hidden bosses

>>718873497
The mod has 2 mod pages and one of them has a huge pasta of how it should be installed. You'll know it work if the music changed in the first level or if you see the gameplay is no longer sigma trash with no gore. What happened to your braincels bro

you know this will flop right?

>>718873402
I actually never knew that either until you told me just now. I dunno, I never found it grindy or tedious back then. To be honest, I really need to do a present day play-through but I don't know if my PS2 still even works and I don't think it emulates well. I still want an hd remaster port for this reason.

>>718873497
Looks fine. Latest version (16) comes bundled with nm so you just unzip in game folder and its ready to go. Although if you're the poorfag from earlier just use this guide since you'll need an older version
https://youtu.be/zYLXpKpJzO8?si=aItlKAqPMz1fTwCq

>>718866321
>NG4 sells well and gets critical acclaim
>Platinum go into pre-production of NG5
>Team Ninja make NG1 remake with modern graphics
>Ninja Gaiden content gets added to Nioh 3
>All NG girls get added to Venus Vacation

This would be the perfect timeline.

>>718873820
>NG4 sells well
too bad it won't

>>718873702
>thare are 0 reasons a cag can't have good exploration more open levels dungeons hidden bosses
It really doesn't bother me personally. I like arena after arena with combat being the exclusive focus. What do I care for a hidden wall with some items

>>718873820
>>Ninja Gaiden content gets added to Nioh 3
We'll get our boss fight bro, trvst me. They've given us rin hayabusa twice now

>>718873765
The nice part is that the jp version has an english option anyway, I think it's fully playable in english, just with jp dub.
It works great on pcsx2 nightly last time I checked but yeah I'd love a port too.

>>718873820
Don't forget a Dead or Alive 7 getting made!

>>718873738
>you know this will flop right?

It's gonna have mediocre launch sales but then go on to become a steam sales monster like DMC5 and MGR did, lock it in

>>718870818
>Who the fuck is saying "Oh yeah that part where I had to pick up a key and backtrack for 30 seconds is what made Devil May Cry great"?
The thing you're missing is that DMC1's levels were much denser because the devs designed them with the idea that you had to travel between rooms to obtain items to progress the game. When you remove the item collection aspect you also remove the need to backtrack and travel between rooms/areas. If the devs have no reason to actually make all the rooms/areas interconnect they're just going to design a bunch of open areas with a single entrance and exit and connect them with hallways or paths.
>>718871597
>NG2 literally has you traveling to different places across the world which literally wouldn't work with NGB's level design.
Except NGB had plenty of level variety
>ninja village
>airship
>middle-eastern town
>christian monastery
>egyptian catacombs
>military base
>roman aqueducts
>aztec temple
>frozen & volcanic caverns
>labyrinth
>demonic tower
location variety and interconnected level design are not mutually exclusive.

>>718873738
if they were smarter they would've included hardcore gay sex full penetration QTEs for the incredibly profitable chinese danmei fans

>>718874061
NGB level variety was insane for an inter connected world.

>>718873738
I know, that's why I'm buying the deluxe edition

>>718873890
If the game reviews well I can see it selling well

>Fast action game in a sea of souls likes
>Iconic gaming IP
>On gamepass so a lot of people will try it at least and have good word of mouth
>Has sexy characters which are always a bonus
>Releases on all major platforms at the same time (rare for NG series)
>GamesCom trailer has positive reactions in the chat from what I saw (at least on Asmongold's stream)

>>718874425
You and me both Jack

A muslim NG fan had a blast with the demo.
https://x.com/SultanHayabusa1/status/1959322114001129855
>This was incredible. Peak action gaming! I think TN and Platinum have cooked up something truly special here.
>The moveset is massive though, each weapon has like 40+ attacks!

https://x.com/SultanHayabusa1/status/1959355706731008155
>You can link into BR from normal attacks seemlessly for eg: XXX hold LT for BR then Y Y, then release LT and continue XXX normal attack combo.
>BR has its own moveset like 360 Y, back forward X, BB hold B etc

>>718874747
>literal who shill on xitter had le blast

>>718874747
>>BB hold B etc
>projectile attacks in BR form have their own strings
Holy fuck

>>718874747
>muslim NG fan had a blast with the demo.
Inshallah yakumo will defeat the dark dragon

>>718872792
>The gamers yearn for pure action kino
gamers? yes
actual normalfags? fuck no they will just go back to snoy TPS games and call it a day until rollslop is trendy again

>>718874747
Based Sultan

>>718870818
>Who the fuck is saying "Oh yeah that part where I had to pick up a key and backtrack for 30 seconds is what made Devil May Cry great"?
Me, I said it. Its immersive

>>718877795
Good.
https://youtu.be/R4RvEmSRVbo?si=7I4vVS_MiEFwdiB4

Ryu's extra constumes are kind of ass desu. Not the biggest fan of the blue classic but I get it, its legacy and iconic. NG3 Ryu though? Like it doesnt look that different from his regular look. No doppelganger? No fiend busa? Hell I would have taken some weird shit like Biometal

>>718878234
Yakumo's Divine Dragon Order suit looks pretty good. It's very different from his normal look.
I hope that they add more skins in the story DLC.
I also hope there are more skins in the game we haven't seen yet, at least one for each character when you finish Master Ninja, and hopefully also one for when you finish Mentor or whatever the equivalent of that is.

>>718878234
they intentionally made his new costume look like shit so the DLC costumes look better by comparison, it's typical marketing tactic to nickel and dime retards and there are still plenty of those around

>>718878375
Me too and also they add Ayane and put a skin where her butt cheeks are showing

>>718873738
This will flip your floppy ass, yes

>>718878453
I think his new look is great. I like it more than his 1 and 2 suit.

>>718838779 (OP)
W101 is literally the only good game Platinum has ever made and it only exists because of Nintendo.

>>718878453
His new costume is cool, I like how swole it makes him look no homo

>>718874461
>Releases on all major platforms at the same time (rare for NG series)
so did 3

>>718878717
NG didn't have any PC ports until the Master Collection (apart from Yaiba, lol)

>>718878630
>tendies
bruh come on

>>718838779 (OP)
>Was Nintendo holding them back?
>Wii U
>Switch
What do you think, retard?

>>718878884
Pure action games do terrible on PC (DMC5 being the one exception, and that was mostly due to hype and memes)

>>718879094
>Pure action games do terrible on PC
Maybe 15 years ago, players have fully embraced PC now because people want to be able to mod these games and play them at their highest framerates possible

>>718879094
This is a gamepass game. It has a chance of being played a lot if it gets good reviews.

>>718879607
>shadowdropped + gamepass day 1

I think the game will do fine, it's been a little under marketed but having big streamers hype it up and play it does a lot on that front. It's also coming out on the same day as Bloodlines 2 which looks like an absolute train wreck (I'm very sad about this the original might be my favorite game ever)

>>718880460
So far bloodlines has been brutally mogging ng4 in pre-orders.

>>718880654
Like I said, marketing has been pretty restrained so far. If they drop a demo, when Assmongold and Critical do big streams with nine hundred million viewers, I think we'll see a lot more interest. Maybe Bloodlines actually somehow ends up good? Maybe? But I don't think the discourse around it will be too positive when it releases.

>>718874461
The problem is this fails at the very first point. Normies hate action games. They want souls likes. The last time a pure 3D action game released was Ninja Gaiden 2 Black, and that game likely sold under 500,000 copies on all platforms. Meanwhile Elden Slop Nightreign sold like ten million instantly despite clearly being an asset flip cash grab of a game where the combat sucks ass. Wukong, Wuchang, Khazan. Action games aren't at risk of being replaced by souls likes, it has already happened. Ninja Gaiden 4 is just a relic from a better era that was only made because Microsoft really wants first party titles and went digging through their old IPs.

>>718880403
Even with those excuses those numbers are just sad, and I think every single CAG on Steam besides DMC5 peaked under 10k players. Expedition 33 was also on Gamepass and it still peaked at 145k. Fast paced combat + no pseudo-RPG stat grinding is a total turnoff for PCfags who want to sit in front of their monitors and grind out bigger numbers to beat bosses.

>>718838779 (OP)
it actually looks like old ninja gaiden

>>718880460
NG4 will live and die by its word of mouth, it kind of reminds me of MGR where a lot of Metal Gear fans were sceptical about it (ironically DMC fans were hyped) and people didn't really know what to make of it but then it came out and meme magic shot it into the stratosphere

>>718879235
I embraced PC but hate steam thanks to their antijapan policies since the chaos head fiasco.
I would rather buy the game on the switch 2 even if I play it pirated on PC.

>>718880654
But vtmb2 looks like shit. If GODtubers say it's underwhelming while they have nice things to say about NG4 then the tide could shift for the 1st week purchases.

>>718880654
>gamepass game
>pre-orders

>>718838779 (OP)
>Is it safe to say that this is Platinum's best looking game in over a decade?
Not a high bar.

Platinum is slop, everything they make is slop, and this new Ninja Gaiden game is completely soulless.

>>718881846
Previous NG games has a shit-ton of moves too, the issue was everyone just spammed the same 3-4 per weapon that were clearly way better than the others.

>>718880938
>Normies hate action games
DMC5 sold 10 million. Some of those fans will carry over to Ninja Gaiden.

>>718880982
This is where platinum comes in. They're good at hitting that normie factor. If the boss BGMs are on par with MGR and the characters are memorable then your average gaming goober will play it on hero mode and lap it up. Action chads will skip all the cutscenes and mute the dialogue and just play the game of course.

>>718882303
Stop trying to make me like spider clan ninjas Ive already murdered thousands of them its too late

Is there a fix for the audio bug in Xenia for NG2? I looked around and have gotten mixed results. Been playing NG2B and it just doesn’t feel good.

>>718882303
>Ayane but smug and edgy
That cross-eyed bitch may have a sexy back but isn't even the hottest pixel girl from her game.

>>718873820
You guys need to stop bait posting sexy costumes that won't appear in this game.

Microsoft is the publisher and that fully clothed shibori is the limit of what MS allows.

>>718883387
>Microsoft is the publisher
Wonder why did they even bother when xbox is dead.
Unless microshit moneyhatted the whole thing?

>>718882186
DMC in my eyes is like the opposite of Ninja Gaiden, and I love both. DMC is easy, NG is hard. DMC has a good story, NG doesn't have a story. DMC 5 sold well because people love Dante, Vergil, chicks like V (and some people even like Nero!) and these all have hours of distinct character moments, basically fan service to promote them further. Ninja Gaiden is all gameplay, and too hard to get into for potential players.

>>718880403
Also pretty overprized frankly, didn't they sell this remaster for 70 bucks?

>>718882303
>gets mogged by all other ng girls
ftfy

>>718883520
Supposedly the story is Microsoft really wants first party games from Xbox Studios to promote the brand and gamepass. Koei Tecmo did not really have plans to make NG4 but Microsoft (possibly even Big Phil Spencer himself) approached them with the idea, since Ninja Gaiden was an Xbox franchise for the most part back in the day. This is evidenced by Team Ninja not even being available to make the game since they are making Nioh 3, but it was made anyway with Platinum as the developers.

>>718883239
Nope, you just have to play it safe and restart at save statues whenever you get to them. Usually the sound will cut out within a minute or two if starting up the game or it will be stable for an hour or two, so if you have a good start with the sound you should be able to clear part of a stage, save them come back and try to roll good luck with audio again. I play the game this way and have sound 90-95% of the time.

>>718883553
Every new NG has hero mode now and its no doubt gonna be piss easy if thats what you want. Difficulty wont be a problem for NG4 in terms of accessibility. The hard part is selling an old school linear action game to modern audiences when everything is an ARPG or open world now.

>>718881846
Ok so? OG NG2 had 58 moves for DS without counting the generic basic moveset and water shit applicable to each weapon. So even by going by pure numbers, not only you have less moves but less weapons than any prior NG game minus original NG3. This is a fucking joke lol.

>>718883520
In some interviews they say it was the presidents of KT and Platinum that are friends and they started to talk about making a game together and then Phil Spencer got involved (not sure who approached who) and they committed to making NG4. Makes it sound like TN was only along for the ride under order of KT to help steer the game in the right direction and share assets.

>>718883953
The fuck do you mean so? He is spreading objective information. There isn't an agenda here for you to get angry about.

What's the best version of each game to play

>>718884168
Play them on youtube

>>718883953
>OG NG2 had 58 moves for DS without counting the generic basic moveset and water shit
I'd have to boot up to check but old Team Ninja did a lot of trolling with the move lists to make them seem much, much bigger than they actually were (X, XX, XXX, XXXX all listed separately for example). Even if we pretend 58 is the actual number, let's not pretend you used even a quarter of them while playing.

>>718884168
Sugma 1. Any version of 2 except Sigma (unmodded). 3 Razor's Edge

>>718883953
Oh shut up chud, no one fucking cares. The game looks fun, the weapons look good
>But but where's the war hammer, where's UF, where's kusarigama?
Up your ass.
Stop crying nigger, you sound like a fucking baby.

>>718884127
>>718884307
>>718884375
Cope trannies.

>>718885106
Lil bro is just saying random words now

>>718885106
I counted the number of moves for the True Dragon Sword on that chart and it doesn't reach 58 (and this list includes the water moves + there's repeated moves)

>>718883309
>but isn't even the hottest pixel girl from her game.
Who is?

>>718882303
She reminds me of Christie from DoA (my waifu)

>purchased and loved NG2 Black
>purchased and loved Ragebound
>will purchase and love NG4
Simple as

I wonder what difficulty to start on, normal looks pretty easy but based on what was said at gamescom is might be a decent enough challenge to the uninitiated. Although I've been typically starting games on the hardest difficulty lately.

>>718887212
I probably will go one higher than normal.

I'd rather my first play through be too hard than too easy.

>>718886995
Reminder Rachel was in Christie's DOA4 ending trying to fuck some Steven Segal looking dude kek.

>>718887212
Normal, then swap to Hard if it's too easy.

I’ve only seen character action threads ever agree on two things
>The Bayonetta sequels are generally worse than the first game (can’t agree by how much though)
>God Hand is amazing
can’t even agree on the name of the genre lmao

TOOOAAAAAHHH!

>>718878234
>NG3 Ryu though? Like it doesnt look that different from his regular look.
If it were up to me he'd be in his NG1/2 outfit instead, because that's the one I have nostalgia for. Otherwise I agree, and I'm expecting some zanier outfits down the line. We need like a Fiend Ryu, and maybe some kind of ornate armor.

someone saved footage of a reviewer who accidentally dropped some Master Minja difficulty gameplay

>>718881229
You could probably convince a lot of normies to preorder just by playing up FROM THE GUYS WHO MADE MGR.
If Yakumo has even a handful of edgelord lines or some cutscene fights, there's a non-zero chance it'll pop off like that again.

Koei is why it’s good Platinum isn’t.
It’s why Platinum is going bankrupt and only helping with games, they’re never going to make a single player game again at that company.

>>718889141
This looks like it has the depth of a proper PS2-3 era game, you're getting my hopes quite up I must say.

>>718889403
>game is a success
>Team Ninja make the NG5 and Platinum make MGR2

perfection

>>718889141
>survives two full UTs
lmao it's smegma 2 all over again

>>718871597
Bro looks like has a camel toe.

>>718890260
>>game is a success
It will be if it's on Gamepass. See Assassins Creed Shadows, 3m players.

>>718891416
>See Assassins Creed Shadows
Hopefully it will see similar success.

>>718890260
Why would Platinum make MGR2?
It’s not a live service game

>>718883861
This is about the opposite of how it actually happened as per the Gamescom interview. The presidents of KT and Platinum had met up as they know each other well and were talking about how it might be great if they did some form of collaboration, and since everyone at KT and TN had long wanted to return to Ninja Gaiden that was brought up as a good idea for it. Then it started to really pick up steam when Phil Spencer heard about the idea and put his full support behind it.

>>718889290
This is what really fucking gets me about their non-existent marketing strategy. Just a single trailer with the DDO elite boss theme would have people lining up.

>>718892817
Because they made the first one and Kojima doesn’t care anymore. Konami owns the IP, and if they smell money, they’ll greenlight it whether it’s live service or not. Platinum might suck at keeping the lights on but they still know how to make a hype action game when someone else is footing the bill. It's either them or some off-brand pursuit of Raiden with QT events from Tencent. Pick your poison.

>>718894193
It's coming. They're gathering data on people's reactions so far. Last trailer has yet to come out.

>>718895623
I'll believe it when I see it, TN have historically been terrible at marketing and that's even putting aside how "people's" reactions constantly steer them in wrong directions when it comes to feedback instead of being confident in what they've made.

>>718890260
Why would they make a metal gear game when konami holds the rights
Also pinja paiden 4 will flop hard and will kill tn for good this time

>>718894193
>>718895623
It's weird how despite the positive reception of the demo NOBODY has mentioned the boss theme.

>>718889141
This looks so bad
Literally look similar to those gacha game combat

>>718896601
It's not that weird, people would barely be able to hear it at a live event. The only reason we know about it is the leaked footage and the types of people that would be looking into something like that are focused primarily on understanding the mechanics and combat, or focused on sperging out and schizoposting as you can see.

Whenever you got BotA in 2, it should've added a new weapon that let you wield it in reverse grip style with a falcon talon in the other hand. Genshin's fighting style was cool as fuck, I want them to add this as a weapon type for Ryu in 4. Or add it in Nioh 3 or something.

>>718870310
Based.

>>718890928
it's smegma 2 with air combos
enjoy your DMC-lite lmao ninja gaiden is dead