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Anonymous No.718936361 >>718936629 >>718936712 >>718937542 >>718937921 >>718938365 >>718938627 >>718939112 >>718939245 >>718939297 >>718939354 >>718940135 >>718940560 >>718940850 >>718943103 >>718944470 >>718945519 >>718945783 >>718946381 >>718946659 >>718947765 >>718948319 >>718948463 >>718948548 >>718949376 >>718949794 >>718950196 >>718951196 >>718951826 >>718953706 >>718955153 >>718956972 >>718958019
>Wanna play human centric game where I get to kill aliens
>I can, but somehow, the humans are also "bad" and dystopian
why does this happen?
Anonymous No.718936430 >>718936875 >>718938597 >>718943347 >>718943840 >>718945930 >>718947494 >>718947653 >>718948305 >>718951196
if you believe the hell divers are the bad guy you fell for media literacy propaganda and are weak minded
Anonymous No.718936568 >>718936685 >>718937127 >>718943981
I've been replaying enemy unknown and it's refreshing/comical how far they take the xeno dehumanization angle, the whole thing is like starship troopers but fully earnest
not surprised they had to buckbreak the IP with chimera squad to pay reparations
Anonymous No.718936629
>>718936361 (OP)
because you’re a bad person
Anonymous No.718936685
>>718936568
>xeno
>dehumanization
????
Anonymous No.718936712
>>718936361 (OP)
>somehow, the humans are also "bad" and dystopian
Nowhere in the game is this implied.
Stop reading retarded twitter drama and stop listening to the devs
Anonymous No.718936875 >>718937187
>>718936430
This. There is 0 observable difference between a satire of something and a celebration of that thing. You get to choose. I choose celebration.
Anonymous No.718937127 >>718939083 >>718939186
>>718936568
Prophet Bradford (PBUH) would be rolling in his grave if he saw what humanity got up to by the time of Chimera Squad
It's sickening
Anonymous No.718937187 >>718937423
>>718936875
Based. Everyone’s so desperate to decode irony that they forgot you can just like cool shit. Giant bugs exploding, power armor, orbital bombardment-why overthink it? I’m here to press buttons and watch aliens explode, not write a thesis on the socio-political ramifications of the Helldivers’ war crimes.
Anonymous No.718937423 >>718937901 >>718938383 >>718940279
>>718937187
It's also got a lot to do with age. Apparently the creators of StarCraft 1 thought we were supposed to laugh at how rowdy and badass the terran unit portraits were, a lot of older players i talk to say it was obvious to them. As a 10 year old, i thought they were the definition of cool.

Kids playing helldivers 2 right now are going to grow up to be so based we can't believe it.
>inb4 sign tappers
No country can function without strong dedicated warriors.
Anonymous No.718937542 >>718937683 >>718938160 >>718951196
>>718936361 (OP)
>No, you don't get it!
>Your ancestors on Super Earth waged an unjust war against the Cyborgs over a century ago!
>The Automatons are the good guys, WE'RE the aggressors!
>I-Ignore the human heads on spikes, mangled bodies, viscera collecting factories, and organ harvesting crates for their cyborg overlords!
Anonymous No.718937683 >>718938290 >>718943924
>>718937542
>Your ancestors on Super Earth waged an unjust war against the Cyborgs over a century ago!
The thing is, many leftists thing this is genuinely justification for white people to die in real life so of course they would apply that logic to the game.
Anonymous No.718937901
>>718937423
I read ya...

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"SIR"
Anonymous No.718937921
>>718936361 (OP)
>the humans are also "bad" and dystopian
>HD2
Anonymous No.718938160 >>718938984 >>718948670
>>718937542
Are the cyborgs still running things and building robots as cannon fodder? I figured that they just optimized themselves into full robots.
Anonymous No.718938290
>>718937683
And just like in real life, it's all based on lies by a certain tribe in the middle-east
Anonymous No.718938365
>>718936361 (OP)
Just play EDF nigga
Anonymous No.718938370
Play EDF, nigggaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
Anonymous No.718938383
>>718937423
It can be both funny and cool
Anonymous No.718938597
>>718936430
These types of people would literally roll over and try to reason with an alien species that are hellbent on your extermination. Only to be killed without any discussion by the alien species.
Anonymous No.718938627
>>718936361 (OP)
I wish there was an human faction, because violence against aliens never felt like violence to me.
Anonymous No.718938731 >>718939220 >>718940684 >>718957415
>Wanna play human centric game where I get to kill aliens
this is one of the most oversaturated fucking genres in the market. Don't act like you're starved of games like this. I want a game where you play as xenos and kill humans, yet there's only like 3 I can think of
Anonymous No.718938984
>>718938160
Helldivers X account put out some cryptic binary posts a while back. Translated, the cyborgs asserted independence and proclaimed their automaton children wouldn't live under Super Earth oppression.

That, and the devs clarified the automatons are 100% robot. Those bio-processing plants are probably for the borgs benefit.
Anonymous No.718939083
>>718937127
yeah but torque's cloaca got me wildin
Anonymous No.718939112
>>718936361 (OP)
>I can, but somehow, the humans are also "bad" and dystopian
Why do you think this? Where in the game does it tell you that you are the bad guy?
reply within 3 minutes or you are a baiting faggot
Anonymous No.718939186 >>718939493
>>718937127
xcom 2 and chimera squad are only canon if you're one of the shitters that couldn't beat enemy within (AKA like 70%+ of players)
in the correct timeline the xeno menace got exterminated in 2015 and we never looked back
Anonymous No.718939220 >>718940684
>>718938731
What do you mean theres just halo destiny, space marines, helldivers, EDF, xcom, half life, gears of war, deep rock galactic, dead space, mass effect(?), lost planet, and of course space invaders.
Anonymous No.718939245
>>718936361 (OP)
Should I boughted when it comes to xbox? It looks fun h but I have no interest in braindead survival modes
Anonymous No.718939297 >>718939378
>>718936361 (OP)
nigger halo has been around for decades
Anonymous No.718939354 >>718946894
>>718936361 (OP)
Anonymous No.718939378
>>718939297
thats the problem, decades of human bad propaganda
Anonymous No.718939493 >>718939920 >>718939986
>>718939186
is it true that if you beat xcom1 you were banned from buying 2 and chimera squad? i wouldn't know because i'm a shitter who didn't finish the game.
Anonymous No.718939735 >>718940017
You can't flesh out fictional humanity without making it somewhat grey or a comedic archetype. Otherwise you make self-unaware slop. It's not some woke conspiracy. Even Doom wrote the doomguy's backstory to be in a shitjob because he refused to shoot on civilians. The other option is to make it farcical with Duke Nukem or 40k Space Marine type of thing.
Anonymous No.718939920 >>718940056
>>718939493
if you try to buy those games after beating xcom 1 a squad with arc throwers will come to your house, zap you, and take you to Vahlen for her science projects
Anonymous No.718939986
>>718939493
They couldn't ban you from buying it, but the devs did pay some indian company to dox every account that had the winning achievement for 1 and purchased copy of 2 on steam, and infect their computers with bricking viruses.
Anonymous No.718940017 >>718940220
>>718939735
>Otherwise you make self-unaware slop
According to...?
Anonymous No.718940056
>>718939920
>get autopsied
>vahlen unlocks Neural Damping genemod
Anonymous No.718940135
>>718936361 (OP)
Have you considered joining the EDF?
Anonymous No.718940192 >>718941367
>tfw never got an xcom sequel dealing with the consequences of having a hyper-militarized black ops group filled with PTSD-stricken soldiers, some of which are literally part-ayy and part machine
at least we got saturday morning cartoon freedom fighters and fucking buddy cop bullshit with aliens, huh
Anonymous No.718940220 >>718940368 >>718940373
>>718940017
Me. There literally has never been a well-written fictional human faction waging war that wasn't somewhat evil or saturday morning cartoon caricature.
Anonymous No.718940279
>>718937423
The southern space confederate good ol boys went completely over my head as a kid. When I returned as an adult I just thought it was cool and unique and its not even on the nose or overly critical like literally 100% of media involving confederate aesthetics would be today.
Anonymous No.718940368
>>718940220
Uh
the humans in The Orville?
Anonymous No.718940373
>>718940220
>i never read a single book or watched a single movie or television show in my life
Weird thing to admit to but you do you.
Anonymous No.718940560 >>718940912 >>718952817
>>718936361 (OP)
>one side in Western politics leans nativist/realist, the other globalist/utopian
>the globalists dominate for a couple of decades, culture being downsteam of economics this results in nativists being painted as backwards losers in the public imagination
>worm turns, nativists resurge as globalism stumbles, kids wanna blast aliens in their vidya, and money talks
>but everyone in the media, finance and tech just spent the last 20 years learning that nativists were just a bunch of dumb hicks doing evil because they didn't know any better (not even counting the ones that just generalized to 'whitey bad')
>meanwhile a handful of nativist-types that managed to sneak past the tribal filters are laughing all the way to the bank as everything they touch turns to gold
People trying to have their cake and eat it too, somewhat successfully I might add
Anonymous No.718940684 >>718944480
>>718938731
>this is one of the most oversaturated fucking genres in the market
If this were 2008 yes this would be true, though even back then about half of them mixed pozzed shit in.
>>718939220
>space marines
two games in the past 15 years
>Xcom
Hasn't had a relase in 5 years
>Half life
Dead for 20 years and even half life 2 you had to play as "the resistance" which is gay as hell
>Gears of war
Dead
>Mass Effect
Dead and the second two were extremely pozzed
>Destiny
Asswater
>Dead space
Boring horrorshit, not at all what OP was talking about and you know it.

You should have mentioned quake 4 or star wars republic commando but those are 20 years old ffs.

The badass pro-humanity space marine killing aliens genre is talked about as if it was this huge thing but it died before it was really allowed to take of because it was overtaken by the beginnings of the woke zeitgeist in the 2010s who had to fun police the cool parts of it and fill it with messages.

The past 15 years have been loaded with games where you play as "the rebellion" against a vague clone of the british empire, PVP shit, and gachashit.

With the death of concord and suicide squad, and the massive success of helldivers and space marine, it's clear people want something that makes them feel patriotic and unashamed to impose their will on inferiors, rather than stories that are subtle metaphors to shame people for being born white and wanting to defend their civilization against hordes of monsters.
Anonymous No.718940828 >>718943069 >>718943164 >>718957735
Humans are evil in real life. Why is it so hard to accept?
Anonymous No.718940850
>>718936361 (OP)
They aren't, that is a retarded fantasy made up by retarded faggots on the internet who don't understand satire.
The satire doesn't come from humanity being bad, but from the absurdity of the world required for them to be good.
Anonymous No.718940912
>>718940560
Anonymous No.718941367 >>718942049 >>718944034
>>718940192
I like the concept from the older sequels of xcom being shuttered after they won and only kept going as a strung together civilian organization, because the populace overruled their governments and kept it going out of (entirely correct) paranoid fear.

Realistically, afterwards you'd have billions of civilians with rage at losing family members and soldiers with xeno combat experience and a chip on their shoulder from fallen comrades, the first war would galvanize humanity so hard they would send sectoids floating out of smoke stacks before they make them citizens, you would NEVER convince the OG generation that they can be tolerated, much less accepted as equals.

Xcom would never again want for experienced recruits after the initial invasion, hell, a few weeks or months into it. After they win, at best, xenos might be a repressed minority group and have to endure the long, slow trudge to civil liberties that women and niggers went through from scratch. Look at all the foreigners settling scores in Ukraine just because they hate Russia, it'd be 400x times that for xenos because no human would have any tangible argument for or stakes in ensuring their survival - to the contrary, nearly every person you meet would have a deep, personal revulsion for them and want their extermination. Guys making jokes about having sex with vipers and making half-breeds would be lynched by angry mobs. Look at the meatgrinder of WW2 and picture asking the red army to shake hands with Germans.
Anonymous No.718941486 >>718944114
>play game
>humans are chads and no hint of them being bad at all

>read twitter
>>ummmm ackshually the humans are bad because reasons
Play the game and stop reading about it nigger
Anonymous No.718942049
>>718941367
Effortposting should get (you)ed
Anonymous No.718943069
>>718940828
kys
Anonymous No.718943103
>>718936361 (OP)
Super earth lore is just comedic flavour so team killing is funnyer. Its just a goofy Starship Troopers parody.
Anonymous No.718943164
>>718940828
Genx fag
Anonymous No.718943347 >>718943417 >>718943514 >>718944527 >>718950759
>>718936430
If you believe the hell divers are morally gray you're a secondary who never played the first game and doesn't understand the true spirit of the setting.
Anonymous No.718943417
>>718943347
Yeah, Helldivers are true heroes.
Anonymous No.718943514 >>718944527 >>718944552
>>718943347
I'm one of these people because I hate top down shit. Can you enlighten me? I'd love to be convinced.
Anonymous No.718943840
>>718936430
Them being the bad guys that serve an objectively monsterous regime is the only reason the Helldivers are cool, shut the fuck up you whiny faggot. If the bullshit about freedom and heckin democracy was actually true and not just lip service, they would be gay as shit.
Anonymous No.718943924
>>718937683
Chuds sure are retarded
Anonymous No.718943981 >>718944603
>>718936568
Humans liberated the alien slaves of Advent and get rewarded with viper pussy. If you have a problem with that then I guess you're just a homo.
Anonymous No.718944034 >>718944513 >>718945232 >>718958671
>>718941367
>Look at the meatgrinder of WW2 and picture asking the red army to shake hands with Germans.
The GDR existed and was one of the most successful economies in the soviet bloc.
Anonymous No.718944114
>>718941486
The news broadcast lay it on really fucking thick that Super Earth is evil as shit and all the enemies you fight in the game are justified in wanting to kill Humans.
Anonymous No.718944157 >>718944220
didn't you know chud? sincerity and reverence are problematic, everything needs to be steeped in multiple layers of sarcasm, irony and politics.
Anonymous No.718944220 >>718944328
>>718944157
There's nothing sincere about the Helldivers or Super Duper Earth.
Anonymous No.718944301
I feel bad for 40K fans. Ever since Helldivers 2 came out they're no longer the gayest and most obnoxious fan base anymore. I hope they're doing alright.
Anonymous No.718944328
>>718944220
congrats anon, you grasped the point anon was making. those special ed classes are paying off!
Anonymous No.718944470 >>718944640
>>718936361 (OP)
You get to kill a lot of aliens in here
Anonymous No.718944480 >>718945915 >>718950759
>>718940684
reddit spacing also it's a good think that a genre that appeals to the lowest common denominator normie died out. Human centrism is a concept for brainlets with no imagination
Anonymous No.718944513 >>718945232
>>718944034
an even better example is balkans who adopted Turkish culture and traditions despite literal centuries of systematic mandatory yearly child sacrifice who were shipped off to castration mills with 70% mortality rate to give the entire ottoman empire a constant supply of eunuchs.
Anonymous No.718944527
>>718943347
>>718943514
Please respond to this anon, I'm also curious.
Anonymous No.718944552 >>718944925 >>718944952 >>718954964
>>718943514
>Bugs
Super Earth government refuses to let you exterminate them for good because they want to farm them for oil. All the bug deaths are literally the fault of Super Earth.
>Cyborgs
Clanker equivalent of sand niggers that you invade because your own government faked a terrorist bombing against your own people just so Super Earth can have their puppet government installed in the Cyborg territories.
>Lumis
Bunch of autistic squids who just wanna grill that you assault first under the pretense of "They MIGHT have weapons of mass destruction!". When you win, your government tells you "Okay, they didn't have any weapons of mass destruction, but we stole a bunch of technology that they did have with which we can make our own WMDs capable of popping entire planets!"
You're a slightly edgier Saturday morning cartoon villain. And it's very depressing that a bunch of neocon faggots and trannies overtook the playerbase with the release of the goy-ified second game thinking they're some kind of grizzled traumatized nu-40k Imperial Guard veterans struggling in a hostile world out to get them instead of having fun being properly unapologetically evil arseholes like we did back in the days of the first game. They're cowardly moralfags.
The second game is also just overall generic TPS trash. First one wasn't just top down, it had funny bullshit like a shared screen meaning you were literally not allowed to split up or abandon your comrades, and removing an entire dimension from movement and aiming made for a good amount of entertaining friendly fire situations, which is something that was basically integral to HD's identity. Friendly fire was pretty impactful too, you could down your lads in less than a second if you blanked out while holding the fire key.
Anonymous No.718944603
>>718943981
bro...
Anonymous No.718944640 >>718944980 >>718950491
>>718944470
Except that game has missions where humans are the bad guys.
Anonymous No.718944925 >>718945803
>>718944552
>All the bug deaths are literally the fault of Super Earth.
Isn't this kind of actually a good thing though? It presumablykeeps all of humanity united by having a perpentual non-human common enemy, even if it is manufactured. Sure, some lives are lost, but wouldn't more lives be lost if humanity just continued to be at war with each other? I haven't played the first game so I'm mostly talking out of my ass, I have no clue if there are still civil wars, rebellions and such in this setting or how deep the corruption goes beyond literally making enemies for Earth to deal with so they can steal their shit.
Anonymous No.718944952 >>718945860
>>718944552
>all the enemies are brown coded
based
Anonymous No.718944980
>>718944640
>Except that game has missions where humans are the bad guys.
Yes anon, there are bad humans, there are bad humans in the real world too. But is not "the humans are the bad guys".
And all your soldiers and every named npc you control is absolutely above board except the token Weyland Yutani betrayer. My main gripe was the amount of dark skinned women, holy hell, where the white women at.

Anyhow i just wanted to shill what i believe to be a fantastic game on a thread about killing aliens in vidya.
Anonymous No.718945232 >>718945797
>>718944034
>>718944513
Realpolitik for xenos might happen but it's not going to happen in the same generation. It's going to be like fifty years down the line before OG survivors are no longer the majority and their children begin to question the 40-foot pits serving as alien POW camps. The war and their societal trauma would also be on a far more severe scale than WW2 - unprecedented. "Never again" rhetoric ensures remaining xenos are hunted down and their hovels bulldozed over for years. Reconciliation with xenos is already going to be strained by default because of their innate physical differences, much less with all the atrocities they committed during the first war.
Anonymous No.718945519
>>718936361 (OP)
There are dozens of games where aliens are straight forward bad guys. You're just fixating on one where there's some nuance to use it as a vector for the culture war.
Anonymous No.718945620
HFY-fags are always the most retarded """""fans""""""" in any fantasy and sci-fi fandom. I thought the trannies were the worst, but I was wrong. You can ignore trannies, but a HFY-fag is the bigger attention whore. Avatar really broke their minds, huh?
Anonymous No.718945783
>>718936361 (OP)
I WOULD HAVE TOLD YOU TO PLAY HALO BUT YOU'RE A CONTRARIAN FAGGOT
Anonymous No.718945797
>>718945232
That's possible, I just think you're underestimating the power of propaganda and the sort of societal levers available for use on humans who are always much more adaptable and malleable than one would think, even discounting for the level of personal experience and trauma.
Anonymous No.718945803 >>718946025 >>718946095 >>718947021 >>718948601
>>718944925
At that point literally anything we do is a good thing because we're a parasitic invasive species that lives off conflict and needs a CONSTANT excuse to fuck something up. It's in our nature. It's why 99.99999% of all fictional content we consume has conflict at its core. We need to fight and strive and struggle and stand against adversity, the only thing that changes is the excuse. Best we can do is find an excuse that makes us feel justified.
When you go this deep into human nature and necessary evils - villainy as a concept ceases to exist. All that's left is adapation to the environment.
Anonymous No.718945860 >>718946010 >>718951024
>>718944952
Lumis are a species of scholars and knowledge seekers. There's nothing brown about them.
Anonymous No.718945915 >>718950564
>>718944480
Coincidentally non-human centrist works are really only liked by the politically captured midwits who live in the middle of the bell curve. Anyone dumb or exceedingly smart understands why human centrism is peak and even necessary. Space is a Harsh Mistress.
Anonymous No.718945930
>>718936430
It's hilarious. Try asking normalfags what fascism even is.
>ITS BAD OKAY!!
Anonymous No.718946010
>>718945860
Sounds like muslims and the way they larp at being smart.
Anonymous No.718946025 >>718946108 >>718946516
>>718945803
Yeah you're pretty right, but in the case of Helldivers, who's loss is it? At that point why not farm them, especially when the species you're fucking with are I assume hostile to humanity by default anyway whether or not humanity attacks first. I mean, fuck em, right?
Anonymous No.718946095 >>718946516
>>718945803
>we're a parasitic invasive species
Anonymous No.718946108 >>718947397 >>718948265
>>718946025
Also as I said before, I didn't play the first one, so I'm already assuming that diplomacy and maybe even peace treaties or something with the robots or the aliens are literally impossible but I could be wrong.
Anonymous No.718946381
>>718936361 (OP)
Because you're a little cunt who deserves to have your love of violence undercut with the consequences of it.
Anonymous No.718946436
Is there a mod to change the annoying chain smoker girl voice to something else? She doesn't have to be kawaii uguu, just something with a slight amount of appeal because its annoying how many faggots choose to play as girls.
Anonymous No.718946516 >>718955267
>>718946025
Fuck them, yes, but FUCK THEM. PROPERLY. TO DEATH. FOR GOOD. We keep them going, keep them coming back, keep them killing US, our citizens, our civillians, our children. Don't know how you see it, but I'd rather risk a civil war where I have to dome Eddy from across the street with a railgun and then cry myself to sleep over it because I don't have anyone to do barbeque parties with anymore than maintain the survival of a manufactured enemy that feels no remorse or sympathy for me and the people I care about as it unwinds my intestines without a second thought.
You do you, though. Morality is subjective. It's just another method of adaptation to the environment. Whoever kills or subjugates the other is the moral victor.
>>718946095
Seeethe forever, cowardly shartroon.
Anonymous No.718946657 >>718948003 >>718955414
The idea of these sorts of settings is to show how statists will use any amount of mental gymnastics to justify the atrocities committed by their government while hating the enemy for doing the exact same thing. And it worked brilliantly in the case of helldivers 2 because now fascists embarrassing themselves publicly by doing mental gymnastics to justify the actions of a fictional government. Their brains are so poisoned by wing-cucked politics they literally cannot imagine a third option between supporting statism and dying.
Anonymous No.718946659 >>718947369 >>718947643
>>718936361 (OP)
>gently mock authoritarianism in a video game
>retards on the internet take it personally
what happened to trannies being snowflakes?
Anonymous No.718946894
>>718939354
This game is kino but I wish an itchy asscrack on whomever designed the facehugger eggs and their interaction with the drones mandating a specialist be present in every mission at all times.
Anonymous No.718947021 >>718947280 >>718947329 >>718947502
>>718945803
In order to get into space one's species must be selfish and combative to create the technology needed to get into space. What happens once you get into space and have to deal with the hard realities of limited resources, delta-V, and keeping together planted even in a single system separated by light minutes and hundreds of thousands of kilometers? Oh, that's right, not magical space communism or 60s liberalism. To survive in space you need order and you need military that can act decisively. By the point you've spread to other stars with the traits needed to get to space in the first place and the traits needed to keep even a single star system alive and fed, you have no room for error or to act as benevolent towards other races. We live and die off of assessing threats and it is highly HIGHLY unlikely that alien species (should we have any in our immediate bubble) would be kind at all.
Anonymous No.718947280
>>718947021
TRVKE
Anonymous No.718947329
>>718947021
wtf I support a first contact war now
Anonymous No.718947369 >>718948264
>>718946659
Hmm. Strange. Only one of these strawmen actually kills himself when his delusions aren't validated
Anonymous No.718947397
>>718946108
For Lumis there is a strong implication that they straight up wanted to be left alone. We were the aggressor and we did it for a reason that was fake just so we could take their shit.
Cyborgs may or may not be neutral. There is nothing in the game that suggested they wanted to exterminate us. The reason we delcare war on them is because of the bombing specifically, which was faked by Super Earth. We're the invader. They're the defender. Same for lumis. Only difference is they're willing to counter-invade until they kill us.
hell, even the bugs might just be dumb fucking animals who would stay in their shithole planets if not faced with a consistent perpetual attempt to kill and harvest them. You don't blame a bear for defending its den.
Diplomacy and peace treaties in AT LEAST one case weren't even necessary, and most likely it wasn't necessary in ALL THREE cases because we're consistently the aggressor for manufactured reasons.
It's the second game that got all vague about it. Lumis in HD1 never even used humans as fodder for atrocious experiments, for example.
Anonymous No.718947494
>>718936430
Retard, play Helldivers 1.
They are an analogy for the United States (wars for profit and oil, false flag 9/11 to justify support for "anti terrorism" among people that wanted to be left alone, Saddam- I mean the Illuminate totally have WMDs, we just HAVE to invade Iraq now and loot their artifacts)
Anonymous No.718947502 >>718947716
>>718947021
>We live and die off of assessing threats and it is highly HIGHLY unlikely that alien species (should we have any in our immediate bubble) would be kind at all.
You're an arsehole. A cunt, even. And that's okay. Just don't pretend like you're not. I'm not. That's the beauty of the first game. Just be a cunt. It's cool.
Anonymous No.718947643 >>718947740
>>718946659
They take it personally because they want to live in a fantasy land where it's ok to maim and kill people without any remorse because the government said so. When you question that fantasy the conditioning kicks in and they automatically assume you must be one of the evil bad people the government is fighting.
Anonymous No.718947653 >>718950186
>>718936430
Super Earths government is literally 1984 though. I remember animal farms "more equal" quote being used twice.
The other factions are also the way they are now because we fucked them over.
Anonymous No.718947716 >>718947901
>>718947502
Oh, I'm nott denying it, but I'm saying that you must be not only to get to space but to hold together a semblance of coherence among disparate star systems and planets, and that we should expect aliens to do much the same. Walk softly and carry a big stick.
Anonymous No.718947740
>>718947643
>they want to live in a fantasy land where it's ok to maim and kill people without any remorse because the government said so
that has already existed for hundreds of years lmao you can be a cop and do basically whatever the fuck you want in any nation
Anonymous No.718947765 >>718948368
>>718936361 (OP)
Because generic good guys are a cheap trope meant to entertain children who lack perspective.
Anonymous No.718947901
>>718947716
It's not really a necessity in our case in HD1, even if war upon first contact would be the only feasible scenario IRL, because we never went to war with any of the races upon first contact. We invade when we're well established.
Anonymous No.718948003
>>718946657
I just think it's funny and goofy to play the 'bad guys' fighting even worse 'bad guys'
Anonymous No.718948264
>>718947369
at least you admit you're delusional
Anonymous No.718948265 >>718948801 >>718958114
>>718946108
>I'm already assuming that diplomacy and maybe even peace treaties or something with the robots or the aliens are literally impossible
And you would be incorrect, because it happened.
>The cyborg workers of Cyberstan declared independence from the SE federation unilaterally, but the SE government actually recognized it tacitly, because they were busy fighting bugs and the public wasn't going to support a war against fellow humans without cause, even with top notch propaganda. They then engineered a false flag 9/11 bombing that was pinned on a "cyborg extremist" to justify war
>the Illuminate came to Earth for peaceful First Contact, it was SE that ambushed their fleet and attacked them because of imaginary WMDs (then executed anyone who protested this attack). But at the end of the Helldivers 1 campaign, the SE gov SIGNED A TREATY WITH THEM "allowing" them to leave the galaxy in return for letting the SE pillage their black hole tech, which they then turned into WMDs, the Illuminate hadn't done that themselves because they weren't geared for war. So yes, they signed a treaty with this propagandized aggressive nonhuman menace that apparently couldn't be reasoned with (and executed everyone who protested that this was contradictory to their past propaganda, just like how the bug propaganda went from them being an abomination that must be wiped to a useful farm animal)
mucho texto
Anonymous No.718948305
>>718936430
Super Earth is evil in that they're completely retarded. The only reason in-universe that the 3 factions even exist is because Super Earth does comically stupid shit like building farms full of Terminids or bringing the illuminate back with their dumbass dark matter explosion.
Anonymous No.718948319
>>718936361 (OP)
>I can, but somehow, the humans are also "bad" and dystopian
is that bad? self righterous human empire among beasts is the coolest shit ever, let it be a fantasy or sci fi setting
Anonymous No.718948368 >>718948527 >>718948527 >>718950148
>>718947765
>t. fiction consumer
acting like you're better than anyone when you haven't found your way out of this cesspool as a full grown adult is certainly a choice u can make
Anonymous No.718948463 >>718948771
>>718936361 (OP)
>the humans are also "bad" and dystopian
This isn't the case with the helldivers. All of the propaganda that is put out about them is true - you literally see it in game where a small platoon worth of helldivers will destroy critical assets and literally thousands of the enemy.
Anonymous No.718948527 >>718948651
>>718948368
>>718948368
>u
Retarded brown zoomer thinks 4chan is for kids. You're here forever.
Anonymous No.718948548
>>718936361 (OP)
There’s nothing really dystopian about Helldivers 2. Play the game. You’re fighting a war against three galactic threats and you’re the savior of every red-blooded citizen. The game never hammers you over the head with the morality of what you’re doing - it presents the atrocities you commit as funny, or necessary, or admirable. There was a Major Order last week where we had to kill the monsters that show up in dreams. How does the government know what shows up in dreams? They can read your mind, duh.

Citizens in Super Earth are happy, dedicated and physically capable (except for the moderately feeble young adults, which the Helldivers saved last year.) They behave more like Tarantino characters than real people. They’re caricatures. Nothing about them makes you feel bad about what’s going on, even if you watch one die.
Anonymous No.718948559 >>718948726 >>718948936
>galaxy is bad and dystopian
>humans must be bad and dystopian to survive
what's the problem exactly? why is it ok when 40k does it?
Anonymous No.718948601 >>718948746 >>718951392
>>718945803
>but FUCK THEM. PROPERLY. TO DEATH. FOR GOOD.
But why though? I'm sure you would agree that it is in our nature to desire an enemy to unite against, it's one of the best ways to unite people. If we stop the war with bugs, then what do we do? We would by default devolve into human on human wars and children/people die anyway because again, it's our nature to desire an enemy. In my opinion, when the enemy becomes each other then I'd consider that a serious step back into our development as a species. If war is inevitable and a part of existing as a human, then why allow for conditions that would cause a war amongst humans? Aside from that, I don't think the decision to either farm the bugs or exterminate them is a moral issue as far as how the bugs are treated, since they're literally just giant mindless insects and they have a lot of resources humans can use. If casualties can be brought to an absolute minimum when dealing with them then I don't see the issue. People have died from cows and bulls but we still farm them.

I can't really comment too much on the cyborgs or the aliens
Anonymous No.718948651
>>718948527
two (you)s for the price of one
thanks lil kouhai
Anonymous No.718948670 >>718948950 >>718948950
>>718938160
>Are the cyborgs still running things and building robots as cannon fodder? I figured that they just optimized themselves into full robots.
The Automatons are being referred to as "children" of the Cyborgs, and the initial bot attacks were a distraction to rush and take over Cyberstan with a hidden fleet, so the Cyborgs probably made them. Did they then consciousness transfer to full metal robots, or are there still OG Cyborgs on Cyberstan? We don't really now.
But the game repeatedly hammers in that Automatons are also sentient to some degree, they have casual conversations, goals, emotions etc. Or the "crude simulation that totally isn't real" according to SE correspondance.
Anonymous No.718948726 >>718949009
>>718948559
>what's the problem exactly?
allow me to show you.
Anonymous No.718948746 >>718948801 >>718949125
>>718948601
>it is in our nature to desire an enemy to unite against, it's one of the best ways to unite people. If we stop the war with bugs, then what do we do? We would by default devolve into human on human wars and children/people die anyway because again, it's our nature to desire an enemy.
Hitler thought the exact same shit with the perpetual civilizational war nonsense and look at him now.
Anonymous No.718948771 >>718949424
>>718948463
Helldivers are simultaneously highly-trained and incompetent. Every death in the game is canon. I’m not disregarding what you said but I’m expanding it to say that Helldivers are completely expendable shock troops. They’re like Kasrkin from Warhammer 40k; yeah sure they’re highly-trained and can get shit done with the right writer, but you’re just as likely to see a Kasrkin get a support weapon dropped on their head as you are to see one complete every objective on their own without a single death.
Anonymous No.718948801 >>718949140
>>718948265
Kek holy shit that's brutal. I'm not gonna lie I don't even have an issue with that, it's not too often that you get to play in a setting where humans are pieces of shits but you don't have to care about it. Feels bad for the aliens though.
>>718948746
Yeah but he didn't have actual aliens to redirect the ire of humanity on, just each other, and that's why it turned out the way it did with that mentality.
Anonymous No.718948936
>>718948559
>galaxy is bad and dystopian
Super Earth made the galaxy bad and dystopian for themselves by chimping out at every occasion to maximize corporate profit and secure the seats of politicians. It's comically, moustache twirling evil, and the point is that you can play as a cog in this machine of suffering that knows nothing better and revels in it and play along with the LARP, this doesn't mean it's something good.
Anonymous No.718948950 >>718949017
>>718948670
>>718948670
My read of the situation is that Automatons are made from Citizen brains converted to socialism through invasive surgery and cyberization. It’s why corpses are usually missing their heads in Automaton missions when they aren’t in Illuminate or Terminids.
Anonymous No.718949009 >>718949298
>>718948726
>if you care about things outside your immediate sphere of influence that means you don't care about things within your immediate sphere of influence
Anonymous No.718949017 >>718949110 >>718949523
>>718948950
This was a fun theory and made sense considering that "bio processors" exist, Automatons have human skulls that take them out if destroyed, the headless corpses etc.
But it was apparently debunked by a dev, they're 100% robotic. Apparently.
Anonymous No.718949110
>>718949017
>australian and german authorities have joined the server
Anonymous No.718949125
>>718948746
Where Hitler was wrong is he thought only that. A uniting force who is a physical enemy is fine, but we also need great multi-generational civic-national works to truly thrive that inspire the current and future generations. But we also cannot have that without either ethnic homogeneity or cultural homogeneity, otherwise it falls as Rome, as many others.
Anonymous No.718949140 >>718949181
>>718948801
The black hole tech aliens, aka the Illuminate, have come back to the Galaxy and they’re completely geared towards killing us. It’s great, they’re back for revenge and THEIR AUTOCRATIC INTENTIONS REMAIN SHROUDED IN SECRECY.
Anonymous No.718949181
>>718949140
I would be upset with this if it didn't mean more content!
Anonymous No.718949298 >>718949416 >>718949506 >>718950628 >>718950720
>>718949009
Yes.
The unfortunate truth is that everything except the human liberal is conservative (all mass and energy are conservative).
So any outgroup preference is just entropic and destructive.
Anonymous No.718949376
>>718936361 (OP)
How else are you going to write a lighthearted story about committing genocide?
Anonymous No.718949416
>>718949298
>ayo fuck the Earth, fuck the environment, mass suffering for everyone outside my family/trailer park/economic zo- I mean country, that's fucking based and shit
No.
Anonymous No.718949424 >>718949743
>>718948771
>completely expendable shock troops
Everything that is sent to war is expendable. Helldivers are given top shelf equipment and exert influence over the research and development of the nation to provide weapons better at killing the enemy. And because they are the only offensive force super earth seems to employ, they are actually kind of the humanitarian approach to the situation, since super earth could just as easily arm and ship out every man over 18 to the front with a rifle like the Guard or something.
Anonymous No.718949506
>>718949298
As much as the midwits and bleeding hearts who live comfortably in one of the most peaceful times on earth want it, it's precisely because of them we will be thrust back into conflict because of their softness and desire for peace. History is not kind, nor is space.
Anonymous No.718949523 >>718949623
>>718949017
Bio-processors are probably a joke because Super Earth uses bio-processors too, they even have commercials suggesting old people volunteer to get mulched.
Anonymous No.718949623
>>718949523
The process could be immensely sped up by just legalizing vore
Anonymous No.718949743
>>718949424
>And because they are the only offensive force super earth seems to employ
Missions take place behind enemy lines. You’re in an active warzone, it’s why you can see destroyers firing at the ground in the distance and why huge plumes of smoke can be seen. Convoys are explicitly β€œtake them out before they get to the front lines.”
Anonymous No.718949794 >>718950235
>>718936361 (OP)
Humans are the good guys in 40K, try that
Anonymous No.718950148
>>718948368
It's so cute how you jumped to the projection stage immediately. Nobody said that I want to find a way out of this "cesspool" yet, here we are.
Anonymous No.718950186 >>718950378 >>718951298 >>718951656
>>718947653
And the lesson you should be able to learn from the setting is that in times of actual crisis it makes sense for a society to dial back individual freedoms in favour of server to the greater good of society at large. There is nothing liberal or individualist about being a soldier in an army, but without soldiers in an army your society would not survive

Hilariously, people still pretend that "communism" and "fascism" are opposing political views
Anonymous No.718950196
>>718936361 (OP)
>in the distant future, there is only war
>wtf why is this country constantly at war not a utopia full of rainbows and unicorns
Anonymous No.718950235 >>718955939
>>718949794
>Humans are the good guys in 40k
Way to out yourself as a tranny tourist.
Anonymous No.718950378
>>718950186
The Second Galactic War was caused by Super Earth fucking everyone over barely 100 years ago and they not only failed to learn anything from it, but are doubling down on their ideology. The thing you should get out of HD2 is that everything’s fucked.
Anonymous No.718950491 >>718950625
>>718944640
Humans have always been the bad guys in Aliens.Or more precisely, Weyland Yutani has been the bad guys. Xenomorphs are just animals.
Anonymous No.718950564
>>718945915
Really big cope. Congrats
Anonymous No.718950625 >>718951091 >>718951543
>>718950491
The golem myth and it's adaptations have done unfathomable damage to western storytelling.
Anonymous No.718950628
>>718949298
If that were true, humanity would not have ever reached the state we are in now where we control the world, because even similar people would have destroyed each other and never learned from each other, that includes cases of people of the same race.
Anonymous No.718950720
>>718949298
civilization is, by definition, an "outgroup preference"
Anonymous No.718950759 >>718950951 >>718951524 >>718955716
>>718943347
>>718944480

Biggest faggots in the thread.
Anonymous No.718950917
Reminder that the fermi paradox is an anthropocentric meme. Our exploration of the universe is so primitive and barebones trying to establish any kind of standard is just retarded pontification, and The Dark Forest breaks down under even a little bit of scrutiny.
Anonymous No.718950951 >>718951104 >>718951467
>>718950759
>n-no, you don't understand
>humans are awesome and I'm super special for being born one even though I'm a massive loser and have never ever done anything of note myself
You are mentally a grade schooler.
Anonymous No.718951024 >>718951605
>>718945860
>Lumis are a species of scholars and knowledge seekers
Sounds jewish
Anonymous No.718951091
>>718950625
I am not sure of what you mean by here.
Anonymous No.718951104
>>718950951
Isn't it funny how HFY tards somehow never realize they are just engaging in participation trophy glorification, but on a full species scale?
Anonymous No.718951196 >>718951470
>>718937542
>>718936430
>>718936361 (OP)
The point is literally everyone is just fucking evil at this point so who cares just get the job done
Anonymous No.718951198
Humans are aliens too.
Anonymous No.718951298
>>718950186
>in times of actual crisis i
THEY CREATE THE CRISIS
FOR THEIR BENEFIT
ARE YOU PRETENDING TO BE DUMB
Anonymous No.718951369
I wish creators weren't such chicken shits and were willing to make more stories where humanity willingly joins the evil aliens to dominate the galaxy instead of always either making humans against all aliens, or the pet allies of the space hippies.
Anonymous No.718951392
>>718948601
You don't develop as a species if you maintain a status quo. Letting the bugs live is a status quo. You're stagnating. Which, I don't find it an issue, we should go back to primitivism as far as I'm concerned because techno progress is incompatible with our nature, but I don't think it's a better war than among humans.
Treatment of bugs isn't a topic of concern. The fact that we have them slaughtering our non-combatants is. At least a human war has a chance of having some humane conventions, bugs are just dumb animals. They'll eat us legs first if they wanna.
> If casualties can be brought to an absolute minimum when dealing with them then I don't see the issue.
Which is the opposite of the case, and also the opposite to the goal of uniting against a common enemy. We don't do wars against cows, and most of them are in a very controlled environment. Bugs aren't livestock, they're a species-ending threat if provoked.
Anonymous No.718951467 >>718951601 >>718955782
>>718950951
>[my race/ethnicity] are awesome and I'm super special for being born one even though I'm a massive loser and have never ever done anything of note myself
HMMM
Anonymous No.718951470
>>718951196
But the thing is though only HFY-fags have a problem with humans being evil. Just like in Warhammer, everyone is vile and evil, but it's for the benefit of their survival.
Anonymous No.718951524 >>718956159
>>718950759
>Biggest faggots in the thread.
Anonymous No.718951543
>>718950625
Only a wicked people wrestling with god would ever build a dreadful golem.
It's not a story that should be retold as if we were the protagonists.
Anonymous No.718951601
>>718951467
literally me
Anonymous No.718951605
>>718951024
Jews may be clever, but they seek knowledge only as a means of subjugating the goyim. They're also not brown, come on.
Anonymous No.718951656
>>718950186
>create crisis
>take away freedoms
>deal with crisis because it affects your bottom line
>don't give back freedoms
>???????
>enjoy servile slave caste you just stripped all the rights from
The founding fathers would have strung you up.
Anonymous No.718951826 >>718952014 >>718952128 >>718955347 >>718956206 >>718956261
>>718936361 (OP)
Because pretentious "writers" think everything needs to be deep social commentary about the evils of mankind
Anonymous No.718952014 >>718955347
>>718951826
Literally just Americans.
Anonymous No.718952074 >>718952242 >>718952508 >>718952521 >>718952789
What I don't understand is why can't humans be objectively evil in some media? I thought you RN-nogs were supposed to be able to separate fiction from media unlike libshits? Also it's not like humans being evil stops people from becoming their fans. See the Empire from Star Wars.
Anonymous No.718952128 >>718952363
>>718951826
2000 AD and Warhammer is 'satire' but really it's just meant to look cool to sell issues and figurines
Anonymous No.718952242 >>718952521
>>718952074
Because media is fucked on all sides by people who believe if you include something in your game it means you condone or support it for real when its something bad.
Anonymous No.718952363 >>718952650
>>718952128
Warhams stopped being satire a long time ago, it's been played 100% straight for many editions.
Anonymous No.718952508
>>718952074
Frankly, I think it would potentially be both fun and interesting if you had a game where you played as aliens and had to actually fight and try to survive against HFY level crazy evil humans that were scarily competent and advanced.
Anonymous No.718952521 >>718953292
>>718952242
>>718952074
The schizo in me thinks irony poisoning was done by the elites to smokescreen people into losing their ability to question authority through satire.
Anonymous No.718952650
>>718952363
It's not as hilarious as first edition, but the rogue trader game and shootas, blood, and teef are still very much more silly than stuff like Darktide and Dawn of War. Even Boltgun sorta
Anonymous No.718952789 >>718955853
>>718952074
I thought Fire Warrior was a cool game for earnestly placing you as a "good" alien against an evil humanity. Shit game, but anything like that is still a rarity. Apparently it's thought that audiences "can't relate" with non-humans so publishers discourage nonhuman protags.

I guess there's Avatar but avatar's portrayal of that sucks for other reasons. The poor superhuman underdogs who have a literal benevolent nature god addressing all of their problems
Anonymous No.718952817
>>718940560
This is a retarded reductionist analysis of these issues.
Anonymous No.718953292
>>718952521
I think it's as simple as "people used internet anonymity to spam sentiment that cynicism and critical thinking were bad until it started to set in through blunt force"
Anonymous No.718953706
>>718936361 (OP)
S.E.A.F. good
Super Earth citizens good
Federation of Super Earth bad
Why is that hard to understand?
Anonymous No.718954964 >>718955039
>>718944552
Whole lot of words saying super earth did nothing wrong
Anonymous No.718955039 >>718955157
>>718954964
>Whole lot of words saying super earth did nothing wrong
Anonymous No.718955153 >>718955436
>>718936361 (OP)
>why do people think that wanting to murder everyone who isn't me makes me a bad person?
>don't they understand that I'm a special perfect little angel and I should be free to do whatever I want
>this is MY universe, I alone decide who is allowed to exist in it
>me me me me meeeeeeeeeeee
Anonymous No.718955157 >>718955587
>>718955039
why is he red
Anonymous No.718955267 >>718955572
>>718946516
The bugs are pretty much infinite fuel and energy so keeping them around solve many problems
Anonymous No.718955347 >>718955412
>>718952014
>>718951826
HD2 was made by Swedes tho
Anonymous No.718955412
>>718955347
You misunderstood, it's a satire of Americans specifically.
Anonymous No.718955414 >>718955551
>>718946657
>nooooooo if you kill your enemies they win
Anarchists are unevolved subhumans holding humanity back
Anonymous No.718955436 >>718955536 >>718955828 >>718956837 >>718957225
>>718955153
Aliens are not humans. Why treat them like fellow humans?
Anonymous No.718955536 >>718955889 >>718956523
>>718955436
Humanity is majority African, Indian and Chinese.
Share with us your opinion about those people.
Anonymous No.718955551
>>718955414
>say "killing shitloads of random civilians drives people in those countries to terrorism"
>get misquoted for decades
they should put a variant of this in helldivers actually it's a perfect it
Anonymous No.718955572
>>718955267
Nice try, oil jew. Now please enter the chamber.
Anonymous No.718955587
>>718955157
Someone was criticizing Israel and he couldn't denounce them purely on anti-semitic grounds.
Anonymous No.718955716
>>718950759
biggest crybaby in the thread
Anonymous No.718955782
>>718951467
literally every /pol/tards mentality
Anonymous No.718955828 >>718958219
>>718955436
>not mes are not me
>why treat them like me
>me is the only real person
>me
>meeeeeeeeeeee
Anonymous No.718955853 >>718955938 >>718955962
>>718952789
>tau
>good
Being naiive to the realities of the setting does not make them good
Anonymous No.718955889 >>718956451
>>718955536
Every single chinese person and non-american african I've met has been kind, courteous and hardworking while over 90% of Indians I've met have immediately been rude, tried to haggle or avoid work
Imagine the amazing world we could live in if Pakistan and India nuked each other
Anonymous No.718955938 >>718956435
>>718955853
It does, actually. They have the purity of a child.
Anonymous No.718955939
>>718950235
They are though only troons think otherwise
Anonymous No.718955962 >>718956114 >>718956410
>>718955853
not wanting to murder literally every single alien in the universe as a result of suffering under aliens in the past makes them objectively more moral than the imperium actually
Anonymous No.718956114
>>718955962
but imagine if that did make the imperium the good guys. then these guys would be the good guys too and that would be cool
Anonymous No.718956159
>>718951524
No need to post a picture of yourself bro
Anonymous No.718956206 >>718956350
>>718951826
based pretentious writers for making useless eater consumer scum think about the morality of their very existence
Anonymous No.718956261 >>718956350
>>718951826
literally arguing that you should just consume product and not ask questions is okay in this context apparently
Anonymous No.718956350 >>718956606
>>718956261
>>718956206
>games are heckin art chud
Who cares I want to shoot the aliens
Anonymous No.718956409
I can’t believe they’re getting the good halo shotgun before Infinite. 343
Anonymous No.718956410 >>718956464
>>718955962
>be naiive retards
>get trolled by dark eldar
>now butthurt ar dark eldar
>cant tell difference between Dark eldar and Craftworld Eldar
>start war with craftworld eldar
Bravo Tau! Proving that ignorance does indeed can be evil.
Anonymous No.718956435
>>718955938
Wanting to enslave everyone does not make them good
Anonymous No.718956451 >>718956880
>>718955889
>avoid work
Good goy
Anonymous No.718956464 >>718956632 >>718956968
>>718956410
this is still somehow better than just wanting to kill the craftworld eldar because they exist
Anonymous No.718956523
>>718955536
African population numbers are entirely fabricated btw. We have no real estimate. So it could be much better, or worse, than we imagine
Anonymous No.718956606
>>718956350
You're borderline illiterate
Anonymous No.718956632
>>718956464
>lets attack these dudes because arr rook same
Pretty much first step to becoming like imperium.
Anonymous No.718956837
>>718955436
>directionbrain us vs them
People like this will always demonstrate on their own how retarded they are it seems
Anonymous No.718956880
>>718956451
>Being a lazy piece of shit who does nothing makes you le goy
Nice try moishe
Anonymous No.718956968
>>718956464
The deserve it though
Anonymous No.718956972 >>718957087
>>718936361 (OP)
>humans are... LE BAD
Media illiteracy strikes again.
Anonymous No.718957087
>>718956972
>man who plausibly hates and wants to exterminate most of humanity
Anonymous No.718957225 >>718957390
>>718955436
Makes one ponder if aliens have differing morals and beliefs and may not care for living beings the same way we do.
Anonymous No.718957390
>>718957225
all life eventually submits to big xeno cock. so it doesn't matter how their lessers are treated
Anonymous No.718957415 >>718957491 >>718957581
>>718938731
I prefer game where you kill bad aliens and are friends with gsood aliens and some times even kill bad humans
Like Freespace and Wing Commander
Anonymous No.718957491
>>718957415
that sounds like a nice fair compromise to be quite honest
Anonymous No.718957581 >>718957670 >>718957967
>>718957415
Bad aliens as in individually, or the trope of whole certain races of aliens being bad?
Anonymous No.718957670 >>718957775
>>718957581
Halo is a good example. Brutes need to be cleansed, same as prophets, but Sangheili are misunderstood bros
Anonymous No.718957735
>>718940828
You can't lump in all the races together. Sure non-whites and jews are evil and need to be minecrafted for the greater good, but white males(who are usually the protagonists in any humans vs xenos game that is worth playing) are basically gods on earth.
Anonymous No.718957775 >>718957835 >>718957870 >>718958893
>>718957670
Worst warcrimes against humanity was done by Elites...
Anonymous No.718957835
>>718957775
if humanity didn't want warcrimes done unto them they should have simply got gud
Anonymous No.718957870
>>718957775
no surprise there, it's all about aesthetics. if turians did 100 9/11s people would forgive them because they think they're handsome
Anonymous No.718957967
>>718957581
By example I provided
Freespace - we have fully genocidal race, Shivan who are never tried to be diplomatic with us or other guys, Vasudans, evil faction of these Vasudan aliens, Hammer of Light who are against alliance between Terrans (us) and Vasudan are helping Shivans
So entire races or evil faction from other races
Anonymous No.718958019
>>718936361 (OP)
Helldivers filters the retarded from the sensible.

Is past humanity responsible for the evils it finds itself against? Yes. Should the current generation of humans be blamed for those evils coming back and committing atrocities against them? The Terminids spreading across the galaxy and massacring innocent civilians in a mindless advance? The Automatons turning people into literal blood pulp fuel? The Squids turning your neighbors into mindless slaves? If you say yes, you're just evil. Funnily enough, what the average Bluesky user thinks.
Anonymous No.718958114 >>718958287
>>718948265
>>the Illuminate came to Earth for peaceful First Contact, it was SE that ambushed their fleet and attacked them because of imaginary WMDs (then executed anyone who protested this attack).
Wait a fucking minute, the SE is just the US
Anonymous No.718958219
>>718955828
You sound hysterical.
Take a deep breath.
Anonymous No.718958287
>>718958114
>noo dont attack a race first that turns people into zombies! Just let them have a unpredictable first move!
Anonymous No.718958671
>>718944034
It was still massively behind the Western half, and the Soviets built up a wall to stop people from escaping to the side that wasn't being controlled by communists.
Anonymous No.718958893
>>718957775
They were also the first to petition to have Humanity join the Covenant due to the sheer amount of fightan spirit they had despite the near constant losses and setbacks. The Elites saw in Humanity a kindred warrior spirit.