Thread 718955746

>Firebolt
>Miss
>Sacred Flame
>Resist

>drop down to the underdark early and grab radiant orb breastplate
>she now debuffs everything to shit and the game has barely started yet

>Saving Throw
Name a more needlessly complicated mechanic. Really cool when my Hold spells miss and the enemy lands theirs every time.

If you want your cleric to do damage you need some levels and respec to tempest or light domain

>>718955886
> needlessly complicated
What? It's literally just rolling with a bonus trying to get higher than another number, just like every other mechanic in the game. If you fail at it just make your number higher or use it on enemies with a lower number.

>>718955886
You should've stayed in school if you can't handle the comparison of two numbers.

>>718956040
>>718956146
Notice how they never actually explain how the mechanic works or why it can't just be a simple percentage chance. They just go straight to insults to protect their Bear Sex RPG.

>Tencent astroturf
>Bypass board Ad rules
>Allowed

>>718955746 (OP)
Why is she trying to attack? A healslut must heal.

>>718955746 (OP)
>>718955871
>>718956040
>Casts sleep
>Smites you
Nothing personal, kid.

>>718956626
healing is a waste of a turn in this game

>>718956492
Offense number > Defense number, spell works
Defense number >= offense number, spell fails

The more you know. And you could convert it to a percentage if you wanted but if this was already too hard for you, there's no point explaining.

>>718955746 (OP)
Why do they tilt their heads back and talk to you like this? It is because I was a dwarf?

>>718956763
There are items that turn heals into ridiculous full party buffs and you get the first of them right in the druid grove.

>>718956763
Yeah man bless with no concentration is so awful

How does 5E calculate the DC of a spell?

Shadowheart was only good for sex. I never took her anywhere and I wish I could have forced her to get knotted by a wolf.

>>718957241
8 + proficiency bonus + spellcasting modifier

There are also feats or magic items that may affect it further

>>718957241
the caster of the spell has a spell save dc that needs to be beaten. It's not based on the spell, it's based on the caster and always the same for all spells from that caster
8 + casters proficiency bonus (just a number that goes up with level so that higher level things are stronger) + the stat bonus of the casters spellcasting stat (int for wizards, cha for sorcerers, etc)
Then, the defender rolls a d20 and adds the relevant save bonus (which save to use depends on the specific spell, like reflex to jump out of the way of an explosion or fortitude to overcome poisons)

never played druid, should i do circle of the moon or stars?

>wow look at all these cool spells
>Requires Concentration
Fuck this game.

>>718955746 (OP)
>start the fight
>whoops the entire party now has bless via a non-concentration bonus action (Whispering Promise + any bonus action heal) and a blade ward on them all (Hellrider's Pride)
GG

>>718955746 (OP)
Give her the Headband of Intellect you get from the smart ogre, dingus.

>>718957548
>proficiency bonus (just a number that goes up with level so that higher level things are stronger)
I was wondering about that too. Are skill points just... gone? I already learned that attributes points now come at the cost of a feat.

>>718957719
That depends on what you want out of the class. Do you want to blast enemies at range with spells a lot or do you want to transform into an animal and attack people in melee range a lot?
It's hard to just say which is superior since it's a bit apples to oranges since the playstyle is different

>>718958092
Yes, that's correct. You're either proficient with a skill, and thus apply your proficiency bonus to it, or you aren't, and thus apply only your related ability modifier. Of course, there's also Expertise, which applies double your proficiency bonus to the skill.

>>718958092
Proficiency bonus replaces skill points, saving throw improvements, and Base Attack Bonus as the "number that just goes up as you level". It's probably one of the best changes that 5e makes from 3rd edition because it streamlines a lot of the tedious bookkeeping.

Assuming you let Shart be her default class and subclass, what the fuck is she actually good for?
She's the one companion I never quite figured out what to do with

>>718955746 (OP)
Using firebolt from Shadowheart or Astarian is a trap. It's from their half-elf racial ability, and it uses Intelligence for the attack modifier, which neither are particularly strong in.

Sacred Flame is a legit spell that uses a saving throw, and you largely use spells with specific saving throws to target enemies who are weak in specific saving throws (though Sacred Flame is just a cantrip, so it also works well enough as a "I have nothing else at the moment and I'm at range"-thing going for it.

The game doesn't do a very good job explaining some of this stuff for people not already familiar with the system. It's actually one of my gripes with Larian on this, but I strongly suspect this (along with not giving a preview of future levels) was on purpose so the typically daunting info thrown at players doesn't intimidate non-CRPG players from playing.

>>718958242
Oh, and I forgot to ask another thing.
>the stat bonus of the casters spellcasting stat (int for wizards, cha for sorcerers, etc)
Do spell scrolls still use int mod for everyone regardless?
Also, I don't quite remember spells actually missing before. It was all just either save throws, or spell resistance. But now they use attack rolls? Which also use the class' primary attribute modifier? What's it matched against? Just enemy AC, like for melee attacks?

>>718958415
She can help aid your stealthy rogue with a few of her abilities, but if you don't have one in the active party, she's not all that useful outside of basic cleric stuff.
It's why most people respect her at Withers to be a cleric with a different subclass.

>>718958415
She's still a cleric so she's a broken support. She can still do this >>718957838 which makes your party fucking immortal as early as first hours of chapter 1. She can still stack radiating orbs on everything. It doesn't matter if the subclass is trash.

>>718958556
*respec, not respect
but maybe some of you do that too.

>>718958595
Huh? How do you get non-concentration bless?

>>718958595
Yeah, but the fact that literally every subclass can use that same loadout, but with better synergy/better alternative options kinda makes Trickery pointless.

>>718955746 (OP)
>WIS class
>using INT spell attack rolls
5.5e should've come out earlier to provide some QoL changes to BG3

>>718958675
Whispering Promise. It gives Bless bonuses to any creature you heal for 2 turns. Mass Healing Word turns it into an aoe Bless that needs no concentration.

>>718958758
Is this true? What the FUCK?

>>718958675
The Whispering Promise, anon. It's a ring you can buy in Act 1 either from Volo on his visit to the Druid camp, or from the goblin trader when you visit their camp.

>>718958415
She's a cleric so her main use is slinging spells. Just treat her as a holy themed wizard.
Healing Word is also an extremely strong spell for the entire game which massively assists in action economy. Just remember that healing word is for instantly reviving unconscious allies as a bonus action and NOT healing.

>>718958675
nta but the ring they're talking about gives a Bless-like effect (which does not stack with Bless) to any party member you heal. It stays on for a period of time without you having to concentrate on that effect.
Something like a Mass Healing Word would trigger it on your party members

>>718958820
It's because Shart's Firebolt is a racial spell that is hardlocked to INT

>>718958898
Oh, so it's just for one spell?

>>718958820
All of her class-based spells you Wisdom, but her Racial spell (from half-elf) is Int-based, like any other half-elf that is half High Elf.
They really should've given both Astarian and her a different racial spell.

>>718956492
Because if you have basic understanding of how D&D works then you wouldn't need an explanation

>>718958959
Yes.
If BG3 used the 5.5e ruleset then the player gets to choose which casting stat to use for spells gained outside of a character's class

>>718958475
Scrolls use the default casting modifier of the character's most-recently-leveled class, so if you have a Cleric, they'll use Wisdom, but if they multiclass into Warlock, they'll switch to Charisma.
Some spells use attack rolls, some use saving throws. In the case of attack roll spells, it targets AC, yes.

>>718959156
What if it's a non-spellcasting class?

You can tell a shill made this thread because he's actually explaining the game's convoluted mechanics lol

>>718956492
If you don't how how d20 rolls against a target number work in 2025, you should play a lot of old fantasy RPGs before opening your mouth and lurk moar, zoomer-kun.

>Mage Hand
>cantrip
>Find Familiar
>ritual
>can only cast either once per short rest
Explain this horse shit to me. Now.

>>718959246
In the event that a character has no levels in a spellcasting class, their scroll spell DC defaults to Intelligence.

>>718959362
You can tell a retard is posting here because he can't compare two integers and tell which one is bigger

>718959362
>Nobody talks about the game's mechanics, strange! It must be a shill
>Somebody is talking about the game's mechanics, strange! It must be a shill
shitposters used to put more effort into things back in my day

>>718958758
Apparently Solasta 2 will use 5.5e, but due to the fact the game isn't officially licensed, most of the character options will be homebrew.

>>718958475
3rd edition DnD and Pathfinder also had spells that target Armor Class. For example, the 3.5 spell "Scorching Ray".
Actually, it was a bit more complicated in 3rd edition/pathfinder because most spells that target AC would target your "touch armor class" instead of your normal armor class which was (usually) lower. I think there were some spells that targeted normal armor class but I can't think of any at the moment

>>718959505
Hm, I guess, I could unload SOME of the scrolls on Astarion then. He also seemed to default into the arcane trickster, but maybe the game just highlights it, when subclasses unlock. Is there a "canon" subclass for every party member?

>Cast Hungar of Hadar
>Trivialize multiple encounters
>Play paladin
>Smite damage is so comically high that you can just eliminate threats by blinking at them

>>718955746 (OP)
unironically this is my main problem with the game even on the lowest difficulty

>>718959769
Paladin is small time compared to bladesinger or swords bard with 2 levels of paladin
Now THAT bullshit is unstoppable

>>718959698
Yeah, I remember touch. I wouldn't say it's the same as targeting AC. It ignores a lot of modifiers. I still remember that Heal/Harm used that in NWN. I fucking DESTROYED that dracolich in the Undrentide with Heal.

is DND really dogshit like this?

>>718959823
The thought of watching this man play BG3 sounds absolutely insufferable.

>>718959823
Missing things/spells failing as a core mechanic is probably the aspect of DnD rules that transfers the worst to video games. It's just not a fun mechanic to deal with where a random number generator can just make you skip your turn.

It's fun in real life when you're playing with actual people because it evokes an emotional reaction when people get a clutch critical hit or someone rolls bad when they really need it, but in vidya its just kind of annoying.

>>718959971
You sort of need to explain what you mean before anyone could really say yes/no/it depends

>>718959971
depends

>>718955746 (OP)
first BG3 gameplay thread, congrats

What's the best difficulty mod? The one that adds more enemies to encounters?

>>718958415
trickery gives spells that aren't normally in the cleric spell list which can generally be useful like dimension door, mirror images, and dominate
disguise self can be useful too but it's not likely anyone is using shadowheart herself for crime or as a face
invoke duplicity is nerfed compared to the tabletop version but it's still advantage i guess
poison is a pretty shit damage type but i do like having poisoner's gloves, derivation cloak, and broodmother's revenge on her with the divine strike

>>718960101
Ig-MISS threads was being created like every half hour near the game's launch.

>>718959769
>hunger of hadar with sleet storm
yep, its gaming time.

>>718960050
It works a lot better when the spell still does something on failure imo. Like instead of immobilize it reduces their movement by half, or does half damage, or if a spell has multiple effects it only does one, etc.

I'm playing wotr right now and the sudden difficulty spikes are aggravating. One second I'm easily carving my way through everything, then suddenly I'm up against someone who requires a roll of 20 on literally everything.

>>718960264
no it wasn't.

>>718959871
Well, yeah. Barbarian's main issue is how much it relies on melee. Giant removes that by giving every weapon the Throwing and Returning tags and giving a free elemental d6 on top of that. Even without that, it has even better versions of Berserker's bonus action throws, all of which benefit from unarmed/throwing damage bonuses, which are easy to get and stack like crazy.

>>718960352
>no it wasn't
>yes it was
>repeat
closed that up for ya

>>718960440
wow both are ugly
I miss my wife morrigan

>>718960440
shadowbros... not like this..

>>718960546
But anon, she's right here.

>>718959725
As far as I know, the highlighted options are the "canon" options.

>>718960779
jesus fucking christ...
I'm just glad Larian is able to carry on where Bioware dropped off a long tiem ago.

>>718960779
nobody thinks veilguard is official tho?

>>718960879
Okay, it's not happening then. My OCD is willing to trade the canon SUBclass for gameplay improvements. The combat Rogue seems much better than the other options. Not respeccing anyone into a different class on my first playthrough though.

I started a new playthrough after having played it for a year.
I didn't realize the added Bladesinger subclass got its own spellcasting animations. It's kinda cool as hell

>>718961048
I found it very difficult NOT making Astarian a thief rather than the default spellcasting one. Having that extra bonus action and dual-wielding hand crossbows to ensure you get that sneak attack off every time feels too good.

>>718961048
sadly all the rogue subclasses are kind of bad past level 3 because unlike every other class the rogue just never gets anything useful again past level 3. You're best off mullticlassing into something else once you nab whatever subclass bonus looks the best to you.

>>718955746 (OP)
>firebolt
scales with int
>sacred flame
your enemy is too dexterous. literally just use a crossbow for ranged.

>>718961279
Not multiclassing either.

>>718961008
But anon, it was made by the actual main BioWare stuido. They can't even pin the blame on a D-team of nobodies like they did with Mass Effect Andromeda.

>>718961325
Then just keep in mind that he's never going to get any relevant abilities for the rest of the game after you pick the subclass

>>718961106
Get phalar aluve, longsword animations with bladesinging look extremely fucking sick
It also synergises with the class extremely well, especially once you get the boots that also proc reverb when you apply statuses to enemies.

>>718961325
Ur character will suck massive dick then. Just pick 3 rogue 2 fighter then 7 of any other class u want it's a win win. I like 5/7 warlock paladin but 5/5/2 with fighter also works. 20 lvl cap lets me get all 4.

>>718956492
What?
Youre playing a turn based RPG and you actually dont understand addition?

>>718961503
Oh nice, I forgot there was a finesse longsword you could nab down there
thanks

>>718961639
>>718961454
I'm not against multiclassing in principle, but I'm not gonna do it on the first playthrough. For the canon sake, and simply I don't want to do it before I get a good grasp on 5E and class balance. Don't want to just follow some guide.

>>718961325
Ignore them, full rogue is plenty good. The "ability" you keep getting as you level Rogue is more Sneak Attack damage.

>>718961503
I thought I'd like playing bladesinger but the limited number of bladesongs per long rest just doesn't jive with how I try to stretch out the time between long rests as much as possible and often having 5+ combat encounters between long rests

>>718961808
You know what you do you chief me and other anon just warning you. Rogue used to be good into the 20s on 3.0 edition with shadow dancer. It's just ass on 5e besides level 3 thief dip

>>718961748
Also do the illithid side quest, he starts selling reverberation boots and the side quest can be solved by a single person under invisibility to turn the turrets in mage tower off.
Plus caustic band from the female trader in the same camp.

>>718961846
Nah you're just wrong. It's ok if bg3 is Ur first DND game but don't give him bad advice if you don't know what you're talking about aha

>>718961889
Anon, why would you do this? The game WANTS you to long rest as much as possible. I do it literally every 2-3 encounters and burn all my spell slots as much as possible.
Bladesinger is by far one of the coolest subclasses mechanically, although i prefer a 6 bladesinger 6 sorcerer splash.

>>718961440
? oh I can't hear you, must be wind

>decide to pick up arcane archer fighter
>quickly realize battle master can just do the same shit but better
what is the point of this

>>718961808
Multiclassing is not necessary whatsoever in this game.
no need to grognard metagame an RPG that already isnt challenging

>>718961982
I am not wrong. Been play DnD since the 2e days and well into the 5e days.
Haven't touched 2024 DnD yet though.

>>718962027
Because I'm a martial at heart
No resources left? Whatever, just keep swinging
Can't do that with bladesinger

>>718962218
>isnt challenging
I'm playing on normal, and some of the encounters, especially early on, were pretty bullshit.

>>718961982
You're confusing "min-maxed optimal" as the only way something can be "good".
Something is not "bad" for not being multi-classed and min-maxed. Save bad for things that are actually bad.

>>718962098
Nah, anon.
Arcane archer gets
>banishment, a level 4 spell, at character level 3
>non-concentration faerie fire on the attack that cannot miss which is incredibly powerful
>easy access to blind, another powerful status effect, as well as enfeeblement which cucks boss damage output
His options are flat out better for a party player than maneuvers, and they target different saves. It's a class that allows underutilized status effects that typically require concentration shine.

Banishment in particular is fucking nuts. Don't want to fight a hard enemy? Just banish him for 2 turns and overbuff yourself into oblivion before he reappers. Complete shit stomp.

And since you're purely archery focused, grab the 19 STR club from the mage tower and titanstring bow.

>>718961808
1. If you just want to experience the story you can ignore theorycrafters and play whatever you want, 5e doesn't have any options that will make your character unplayable and BG3 is so piss easy that you could beat the game with a full party of wizards that only ever cast cantrips.
2. Just be advised that the reason you're only getting theorycrafters responding to you is that BG3 is a theorycrafting game, not a roleplaying game. The story is simple and once you've seen it the game gets pretty shallow unless you turn into Honor mode tryhard math problem. It's not tabletop and you'll be consistently disappointed if you treat it as such. Still worth a first playthrough in my opinion.

>>718962281
Martials also have resources that get expended in 5e though, like Rage charges and superiority dice. In terms of game design BG3 is clearly designed for you to just spam rest any time your stuff starts running low. You get tons of camp supplies and there's no time constrains on anything

>>718955746 (OP)
>save scumming - the game

>>718962263
Rogue is absolute ass beyond thief dip you literally have no idea what you're talking about when it comes to power gaming. If you're a casual roleplaying fine but you're wrong about the mechanics of the rogue class if you think it's as competent as taking fighter or even pal dips or even another raw class completely. This isn't 2nd edition anymore.

>Persistent Spell (Metamagic)
>phantasmal killer/wierd
>phantasmal killer/wierd (scroll)
>spell penetration, spell penetration+, and mythic one

it s time to wreak havok. and with lot more spell slots than in laughable bg3

>>718956492
It is a simple percentage chance. The system is all predicated on the use of the d20, upon which each facing of the dice, or each numerical increase of one, represents a 5% chance. It occasionally uses the d4, d6, d8 and d10 to calculate damage, but this is kept fairly simple as all damage lumped on from there is additive (Such as 2d4 + STR Modifier + 2 Fire Damage) while crits are multiplacative.

>>718962501
>there's no time constrains on anything
That's what I thought, and then I learned that those dead people in the burning building weren't always dead.

>>718962501
>there's no time constrains on anything
Several things in the game run off of long rest/fast travel countdowns, such as Nere and the svirfneblin in the collapsed tunnel.

>>718962603
Nobody argues that pathfinder has stronger casters. BG3 does have much more enjoyable martials.

>>718962423
i guess i just like how battle master can utilize both melee and archery while arcane archer is purely focused on archery, makes it feel like you have less options. ill try to stick with it though

>>718962569
>when it comes to power gaming
There it is again.
We're not talking about "power gaming". We're taling about whether something is "good" or "bad".
You're confusing min-maxed power-gamer shit as the only way something can "be good".

Full rogue is good for how the math works in 5e. Not "bad". You can obviously min-max/multiclass to your powergamed heart's content, but that's not what we're talking about.

>>718962694
I'd also argue that BG3 has more enjoyable casters because Pathfinder has too many stackable powerful buff spells and casting all those buff spells is fucking boring and NOT casting all the buff spells feels like playing poorly which feels bad.

>>718962694
And it's actually something BG3 does FAR BETTER than base 5e DnD. Martial characters are so much more fun in BG3 the later you get in the game, simply due to how they changed jumping compared to pen-and-paper and more interesting items

more like IGMISS

>>718962948
Pathfinder does have buff bot at least. Angel oracle is fun as fuck to play, one of the strongest gishes i've done.

>>718963007
Why even wear the wizard hat at that point?

>>718962332
Like with typical Larian slop theres always some sort of environmental gimmick to abuse like "push" or exploding a barrel/dropping a chandelier, etc. Act 1 is full of these.
Even without them you should be able to just use movement/action economy to edge out the AI for the most part.
Not to mention the game gives you so much in terms of camping supplies it seems like it expects you to be resting constantly.

>>718962984
Jumping, shoving, kicking, throwing and abduction with a barbarian, are probably the main reasons to play BG3 entirely, there's so much cool shit you can do with it.
On my recent run i used giant barb to throw a robot at the top of mage tower from the window. Nigga fell and got over 60 pure damage.

>>718963092
How else do you know she's a wizard?

>>718963042
Buff Bot also isn't perfect because it cheats spell duration. For example, lets say you have ten spells that each last one minute and take 6 seconds to cast. By the game rules, the first spell should be running out by the time you cast the last one, but with buff bot you just cast all the spells at once so you would just have all six spells at once with full duration.

>>718962569
NTA, but Rogue does alright. Its 3/4 BAB, so even if you take a quarter Fighter levels in your first 20 the most you're going to get out of it is 15 --- > 17 AB. If you're going to take any significant amount of levels of Rogue, its pretty much the same to go Rogue as to go Rogue with a Fighter Dip. But Rogue does have a lot going for it on its own.

Skills that include Tumble, Use Magic Device, all the utility stuff (Hide/MS/Lock/Trap/Search) and Appraise, which will help with coin intake - it also stacks damage dice much better than most classes as well, as Sneak Attack keeps piling up indefinitely. UMD allows you to play a little bit of Backup Wizard through wands, scrolls and enchanted items, and you get free feats along the way too, including useful stuff like Improved Evasion and Defensive Roll. Yes, you're 5 AB down on the Fighter's 20, but you can make that up with an enchanted blade, Weapon Focus and a DEX or STR belt.

The trap that most Rogues fall into is going Dual Weapon, which tanks their already middling AB to the point where they end up missing a lot.

>>718962694
>BG3 does have much more enjoyable martials.
im not sure about "enjoyable martials" in bg3, all meele jobs in bg3 are the same, with just some little passives difference. maybe monk is okay, and paladin can do magic explosions, but all those rangers-hunters-barbarians-warriors-meele rogues it is all same shit that sucks as

most good combat things come not from dnd but from larian games, like jumping, throwing, that came from dos2

>>718962332
The main problem I found was that I tried playing it as if it's an MMO or something.
Healing/healers suck dick. Better to just stock up on potions and swig 'em like it's fruit-wine as bonus actions instead of trying to do the whole tank+healer-meme and spend precious actions healing for 2d6 (it rolled 3, enjoy your "healing").

Early game is the most challenging because you have the fewest tools available to you.

>>718963279
>3/4 BAB
are you getting confused with pathfinder or 3e here? i think the discussion was around BG3 which is 5e (homebrewed)

>download secrua armour mod
>have her clothed in slutty skintight haremwear the whole game

>>718963348
Jumping was actually a bit more limited in some cases in DOS2 due to being completely tied to skills with cooldowns.

Anyone else think Hexblade is shit?
I was told it was the best patch 8 class. Force pushing niggas over cliffs is fun but the rest is kinda boring

>>718963442
The trick to healing in 5th edition DnD is that the most optimal time to heal someone is after they fall unconscious. Someone at max HP and someone at 1 HP are both exactly equally as effective as each other so healing is just a waste of time. But healing someone at zero hitpoints instantly returns them to 100% power. In BG3 they added some extra restrictions to make this strategy weaker by limiting characters that just woke up but it's still optimal to just heal on down most of the time.
That's why bonus action healing is the best healing in the game. A bonus action heal that heals 1 hitpoint is more powerful than an aciton heal that heals a trillion hp

>>718963604
anon shadow blade is one of the strongest weapons in the game after you get the resonance stone. honestly its overpowered even before that

>>718963693
It's a lot better in BG3 since drinking a healing potion is a Bonus Action in this instead of Standard like in pen&paper, so you can push off being knocked out a bit longer, and they actually made it so you can throw healing potions at allies like a Final Fantasy Tactics chemist.

>>718963693
Oh yeah bro it's so smart to deliberately lose out on action-points by letting your party-members go down constantly.
It's especially smart because usually it'll cost you 2 AP since you spend 1 AP getting your party-member up and that party-member will also be missing 1 AP.
In short: what the fuck are you talking about?

>>718963604
Hexblade is very strong, it's just kinda monotonous. CHA to attack is unnecessary in this game for a gish to function well because of the insane amount of buffs and debuffs for rolls you can stack, so literally any other gish is more fun.

this is shadowheart
say something nice about her

>>718959362
>You can tell someone who actually played the game made this thread because he's not spamming Shart pictures or posting that one Twitter screenshot
ftfy fat retard.

>>718955746 (OP)
Combat cantrips were a mistake. Magic users should be limited to their daily limits, and make use of weapons or items otherwise.

>>718963693
Also one of the reasons why the goodberry + find familiar meme makes a party extremely resilient in tier 1 play. Unfortunately doesn't work in BG3 because Larian didn't give summoned creatures their own inventory.

Btw, earlier you said the spell DC uses the main stat of the last class you took. Does it work the same for melee attacks?

>>718964207
Sorry, can't hear you over 2e melf minute meteors machinegunning encounters to dirt.

>>718963937
First of all, as I said this is more true in actual 5th edition rules because in core 5th edition rules you wake up with your full actions and no penalty. BG3 added a homebrew that removes your action which makes it weaker.

As for losing an action, consider that if you spend an action to heal someone to prevent them from falling down, you're also "losing" an action. So, your choice is to lose an action earlier in the fight or later in the fight.
Almost always, it's better to "lose" the action later in the fight, because an early action can kill an enemy, thus reducing incoming damage. Spending your first turn doing damage with two characters and then your second turn casting a heal is superior to spending your first turn attacking with one and healing with one then your second turn attacking with one and healing with one. Also, keep in mind that bonus actions are inherently less valuable than standard actions and if you're raising your allies from unconsciousness with healing as a strategy then you would obviously be only doing it as a bonus action, so even during the turns your "healer" is reviving people they still are using their full standard action for something else.

What's the cheesiest most broken build to make honor mode easy mode

>>718964139
Her ability to have inconsistent scars is very unique.

>>718964368
also, it's important here to also understand that from a core mechanic design perspective, DnD 5th edition was designed so that healing options are vastly inferior to the rate of incoming damage at all levels of play. There is never a point in 5th edition where you can outheal the damage you're receiving from a level appropriate encounter like in an MMO, with the exception of extremely optimized heal focused builds using a bunch of obscure expansion book stuff that isn't available in BG3. DnD 5th edition is designed such that you're meant to kill things before they can kill you by doing as much damage as quickly as possible, trying to outheal damage is a bad strategy.

Did the official mod tools make modding it simpler. Is there a mod laucher like Mod Organiser or Vortex for it? Quick glance at Nexus shows that woman modders who mod XIV and Sims seem to really like BG3

>>718964259
Melee attacks don't have a "main stat." It's based on the weapon type and any relevant perks. Only time it would come up is if you have something that uses your magic stat in place of your melee roll, like with Shillelagh.

>>718964548
Not broken but i found this build on Youtube and it was so much fun.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCdDsMYlwls

Is the game finally finished or do they still have an update coming?

>>718963007
>shart worshipping selune

>>718964816
>woman modders
there's a vampire boyfriend that they can fix in the game. women fucking LOVE that shit, and will literally fight each other over whether it's better to fix him or not.
It got so bad taht Larian had to ban discussion over Ascended Astarian vs Redeemed Astarian because women were getting so fucking toxic on their forums over it.

Dunno if they ever lifted that ban or not

>>718964259
>>718964949
in base 5th edition the saves for abilities like Battle Master attacks is pretty much the same as spells, but in Baldurs Gate 3 they simplified it and just made it 10 + either str or dex if its a finesse weapon + any special bonuses

>>718960267
One of my favorite combos

>>718965142
>make a selune worshipper
>romance Shart
>hatefuck each other
dont' actually know if you can do that, but sounds like an idea to pursue

>>718956763
You are clueless lol.
Healing spells are great, if you got the right synergy it will AOE heal you and buff you as well, even up to 2 buffs with full AOE heal which is important in late game boss fights.

>>718965259
She does have unique dialogue if you romance her as a selune cleric.

>>718955746 (OP)
There is a way that makes you hit EVERY sacred flame attack, every single one without fail.
You just have to build up for it.

>>718956989
ok why charisma its needed for spells?

>Tencent astroturf
>Bypass board Ad rules
>Allowed
Chinese advertising will be exposed.

>>718965415
Stun build? Since Stunned causes auto failures of DEX saving throws?

>first playthrough was me being a basic bitch knight and interacting a lot with the origin characters
>second playthrough is me being a dwarven Dark Urge and killing every origin character (I got sick of their shit) except frog bitch because she's strong

I hope i can make it to the end of act 2 so that I can recruit Halsin and Minthara

>>718957719
>never played druid
Big mistake, one of the most fun classes in the game. I like spores, its the best necromancer in the game

>>718965619
I think a lot of people don't play druids because the game already potentially gives you two of them.

>>718955746 (OP)
>>718955886
skill issue

>>718965462
Classes that cast spells by exerting their will on others or the world or being self actualized are based on charisma because that's the stat of your ability to exert your will.

Spells that are resisted with charisma are spells where you resist them by reaffirming your exitance. That's why Banishment is resisted with charisma.

>>718965784
*except in the case of Warlock, which is still CHA-based instead of Int-based because of 3e-players getting mad during the playtest, causing WotC to make them CHA-based again.

i'm playing with these mods and im having a lot of fun
i'd recommend everything here except the extrafeats one because it doesn't add anything useful desu

>>718965619
I want to try a full necro-spore druid at some point. I only partially had it with a weird rogue/spore druid multi-class, and the abilities seemed like a lot of fun

>>718965692
Thats fair, as long as you actually use them and not bench them in the camp

>>718965915
Why would Warlock be int based? They don't need to know or research anything. They just have to try to control the Eldrich horror that has connected to them. Their powers are more similar to a sorcerer where they're just trying to control the power with their will. Having them be int based never made sense.
Lore wise, completely ignoring any historic designs, cha makes the most sense as the stat. Hell, even wisdom would make more sense as a casting ability than int.

>>718966401
Warlocks are still studying typically in order to get ahold of the outer planar being in order to make their pacts, and some even have a specialized Tome for rituals.

>>718958823
I don't think I've ever seen the Goblin trader sell that item, I would definitely have bought it in a heartbeat, or looted it from the corpse at some point.

>>718966401
The lore works both ways, which is why originally there was talk of allowing INT or CHA

>>718966474
It would be a reasonable character concept to make a warlock that likes to research as a hobby but there's nothing about how the class functions lorewise that would make you think that their spell strength is based on knowledge.

Like, making a Fighter that likes to do a lot of book research about fighting techniques and is super autistic about fighting styles is a good character concept but that doesn't mean that attack roles for all fighters should be based on int.

>>718955746 (OP)
reminder div2 is better

>>718966702
>but there's nothing about how the class functions lorewise that would make you think that their spell strength is based on knowledge.
Incorrect. That very warlock fantasy in needing to contact/study/research in order to create that pact makes more sense INT than CHA.

>>718965915
There's a reason Warlock is the only class in 2014 to not explain their spell casting stat, it was a last minute change. All the lore and skills point to Intelligence but people complained in the playtest so they just did a "Find & Replace" to swap to Charisma.

Also why there were 3 Cha-based classes, and only 1 Int-based class. Last minute change.

>chinaslop adspam thread
>>>/bgg/

>>718955886
>Name a more needlessly complicated mechanic.
THACO

>>718966796
DOS2 is better in some areas, and worse in others.
I absolutely fucking hate DOS2 itemization, with the MMO-style scaling of armor and weapons.
If you took a DOS2-type game and instead used a more BG3 item system, it'd be great.
Oh, and ditch "physical/magic shields".

>>718966363
I can't bring myself to bench Jaheira.

>>718955746 (OP)
>main hand attack
>hit

>>718960373
Zerker still better because of prone and 4 attacks vs 2, BUT Giant is 1000% more fun and still able to dickslap HM

>>718961982
someone in a BG thread yesterday said Shadow Blade is bad, and EK is bad
it's /v/
lol

>>718964950
does this still work since Giant got damage riders fixed?

>>718955746 (OP)
Did you know the reason her firebolt misses so much is because she gets it from her racial bonus which scales off int? Shart has like 8 int and that's why it always misses. Unfortunately even though she has better proficiency with sacred flame, that spell gives your target a chance to avoid damage with a saving throw.

>>718967697
>damage riders fixed
What's this about? Both how it used to work, and how it works now?
Not familiar

>>718958415
Pretty much there to use guidance for advantage on skill checks, cast bless, and to heal.

>pirate game
>character creator
>default human is black
>s'aight, par for the course
>want to make a decrepit old man old one warlock
>all faces relatively handsome
>only 2 balding hairstyles, neither of which look nearly deranged enough, 15 negrohair variants however
>cannot make your character look old, maxing out the slider just gives a few slightly visible wrinkles
>physique choice is literally just 2 things: chadlite and chad
>all voices sound exactly the same as well and fit only 1 single fucking character archetype
>uninstall
So much for fucking inclusion, i cannot play as a decrepit old man, i cannot play as a kyriakos grizzly half human half gorilla, but i sure as fuck can play as a vitilogo drag queen sheboon.
Super bare bones character creator, genuinely embarrassing. You get more customization in vanilla world of warcraft than you do this.

i want to fuck laezel

>2 years later
>still in Steam's top 10
What in tarnation?

>>718968041
I take identity theft very seriously

>>718968084
Trannies leave it running 24/7.

>>718968041
i don't remember posting this

>>718968041
Completely natural urge for white human males.

Can someone explain what the fuck was wrong with Larian when they gave Paladin a spell that can just double the fucking damage (Divine Smite)? What's next? Spell that allows you to skip to the ending?

>>718967962
>default human is black
I always pick half-elf. It seems like that's the "white" race.

>>718968084
it managed to achieve cult status.
got normal people who love the game, but there are incredibly dedicated people obsessed with it at this point who will play it forever (similar to things like Undertale and such).
Some games get to that point.

>>718967791
it was counting elemental cleavber as a rider SOURCE so all the extra +damage you had were added to it and multiplied by the usual amounts, then the same was done for tavern brawler, etc
now it's treated as a damage rider itself as it should've been (think of the ring that adds +1d4 to throws - that is a damage rider)

>>718968159
nothing since paladins are the shittest melee in the game

>>718968159
Attack roll spells can all crit, anon. And besides, it was Wizards of the Coast who made it so that Smite dice double on crit.

>>718967962
>all voices sound exactly the same
You will never hear the PC voice except when they're confirming an action.
I was disappointed by the character creator in general. I thought it was going to be a super robust detailed character creator, but it felt more like picking from a couple presets.
I also couldn't make my creepy bug eating monkcel with negative charisma as lanky and gross as I would have wanted.

>>718968363
that makes sense.
Thanks anon

>>718968041
>>718968096
>>718968143
I fucked Lae'Zel.
Also, https://kemono.cr/patreon/user/3127491/post/107818876 if you have VR. There's some Shart and Karlach stuff, but you can pretend they don't exist.

>>718968450
>I was disappointed by the character creator in general. I thought it was going to be a super robust detailed character creator, but it felt more like picking from a couple presets.
Yeah, same. Even NWN2 has more options, iirc.

>>718968408
But paladins are excellent for parties.
Like Slurms MacKenzie.

>>718968363
>think of the ring that adds +1d4 to throws
>tfw when I realized karlach could solo most encounters by throwing motherfuckers at other motherfuckers

>>718968559
It's because the voice you select has a much more direct effect on something when you play Durge, and I imagine they had to limit themselves in some way in terms of budget than to have more than 10 people record those same amount of dialogue.

>>718968606
>tfw when

>>718968606
The game lets you stack stupid amounts of throwing damage. It's hilarious.

>>718968529
>every time I see her I think of that horror JAV series and think of the fat frog girl
>laugh my ass off

>>718968675
>the tfw face when I play a role playing RPG game with first person FPS shooter elements

>>718968041
she's very easy to lay

>>718968675
>>718968675

>>718968606
>>718968757
I had Karlach kill the Inquisitor on her very first turn in Honour Mode just by throwing a spear at him. The homebrewed Tavern Brawler is fucking stupid.
>>718968808
Oh God it hurts.

>>718962603
Spell pen is just mandatory in wotr, since most of your enemies have very powerful magic resistance.

>>718968832
>she's nothing but a nasty cunt to me
>hates every decision I make
>I WANT TO DRINK YOUR SWEAT! I AM GOING TO FUCK YOU WITH OR WITHOUT YOUR CONSENT!
Jesus lady, can we just be friends?

>>718968971
Her romance gets oddly cute once you get past the initial stages.

>>718969125
Because most everything about her early on is from the perspective of someone who's effectively been in a cult their entire life, and deep down is actually sweeter than how they were raised

>>718968041
did i write this?

>>718968971
>Jesus lady, can we just be friends?

>>718965142
shar is such a retarded goddess it's a net improvement even if shart's black hair is better

>chinaslop adspam thread
>>>/bgg/
You can report our posts, but they're never going away. So long as the jannies allow literal ad hypocrisy, they will always have a problem

>>718969125
I kind of hated the romances in the game in general. I liked the characters, but they're all so aggressively player sexual you almost have to lock in a romance just so you can go to sleep without worrying about getting raped.

>>718970221
Just let Wyll have his space at the party, anon. And remember, a wizard offering to teach you magic is the Faerunian equivalent of a man in an unmarked van offering you sweets.

>>718970221
>I kind of hated the romances in the game in general. I liked the characters, but they're all so aggressively player sexual you almost have to lock in a romance just so you can go to sleep without worrying about getting raped.
Divinity was way better about this but since this game much so much money from the ex-Bioware crew I think we're stuck with obnoxious romances going forward in the next Divinity

>>718955746 (OP)
niggas that played this game are like
>humm out of all the hot women in this game i'm gonna date the most generic white woman i've ever seen

>>718969870
What's wrong with Shar?

It just sucks how many spells in the game suck just because DnD said so. I can't wait for DOS3 to see what newer Larian can pull off with an actual video game RPG again.

>>718970576
I thought there were a lot of good spells to play around with in BG3, with the issue of some being clearly better (maybe that's what you're talking about?)

>>718970335
They're working on a space game next, apparently. They might level off a bit, unless the Ass Effect crowd decides to reward them heartily for it.

>>718970673
There are a lot of good spells, yeah. So it's more of a nitpick. It's just surprising still how many bad ones there are, like why even have them in the game? I get some cantrips being bad because they're free, but sacred flame is a joke. Then there are one or two that give advantage for like one turn but it costs an action so why wouldn't you just take two turns anyway? That's still two dice rolls and it could have been two good ones.

>>718970726
There's 100% going to be a lot of romance options in whatever space game they make.
The BG3 romances pretty much cemented that a number of people will stick with the game forever over their waifu/husbando, and talk it up forever as well
It's easy on-going engagement for wahtever game they make

>>718970418
she's shit in that she's just straight-up evil and also really petty to boot
ever since she was hideously betrayed when selune created the sun her entire existence is just lashing out in any way possible to spite her, in shart's case hinging everything on some kid she abducted because she happened to be raised by selunite parents

>>718960440
why are you like this

>>718957194
>>718955746 (OP)
>Are you the follower of Lady Shar/Vlaakith/etc.?
>"No!"
>tfw

>>718970994
So Shar is essentially a perpetual Woman Moment (tm)?

>>718970881
They just need to space it out better. Do what mass effect does and tie the romance progress to plot points.

Uh.. Viconia? Are you okay?

>>718971072
her portfolio includes lying, trickery, darkness, secrets, cuckolds for some reason, and she made up some donut steel weave ("shadow weave") different from mystra's weave because it's tangentially related to selune and she wants full control over her own magic
so yes

>>718971072
Yes, and don't forget that cuckolds take solace in her shadow according to Ketheric.

>>718970994
I dunno, I like there being a couple of options that are blatantly "this person is Evil" capital E in a fantasy setting. Not everything needs to be shades of gray.

>>718970306
>>718970335
I understand why its there, because horny people will buy games, and you need to make sure they won't miss the opportunity, so everything is super flag posted.
It just annoyed me because I played my ugly as fuck negative charisma monkcel. A character no one should be throwing themselves at.

>chinaslop adspam thread
>>>/bgg/
You can report our posts, but they're never going away. So long as the jannies allow literal ad hypocrisy, they will always have a problem

>>718971678
i do too
but if someone cares about shart letting her remain a sharran is still a shit decision

>get shadowheart to 25+ AC
>move her around the combat zone with spirit guardians

Mechanically and thematically the glow up girl after act 2

>>718972005
>get lv 2 cleric spells
>Spiritual Weapon
>get lv 4 cleric spells
>Spirit Guardians
gaming time

>>718963007
Nourish me Shadow-sama

>cast three spells
>have to camp

>>718972249
I'm kinda the opposite. I lean too heavily on cantrips because I never want to find myself without spell slots, especially if I think I may need counterspell

>chinaslop adspam thread
>>>/bgg/
You can report our posts, but they're never going away. So long as the jannies allow literal ad hypocrisy, they will always have a problem
You're also getting kicked off the jannies for false ban reasons. Happy we can help with that

>>718972249
Go Warlock and get em back on short rest

>>718972325
Except for a few instances though, there really isn't much of a downside in just resting to get spells back though.
Unless you're mostly not picking up food, maybe.

>>718959971
Yes, just ask /tg/, it's only really popular because it was the only thing around for the longest time.

>>718972786
Simple archetypes, and "kill things, get treasure" is easy enough for casual players to understand.
Lot of other TTRPGs (with a few exceptions) demand more "roleplay", and a lot of poeple largely want to just roll dice and kill monsters

>>718955886
I think fighters taking resilient to will saving throws is good, makes a lot of spells on you fail. The +1 to wisdom isnt important.
>>718955746 (OP)
>have a cleric
>respec to heals
>cast daylight in act 2
>cast spirit guardians and kill everything

Right now i partially played through with 2 battlemasters and 2 rangers. Have to rest a lot but some stuffs easier not having a cleric that does little damage, especially in act1. Sucks not having some spell utility sometimes but spike growth is great, goodberry gives some healing for out of combat not needing to rest as much, and game gives plenty of scrolls and vials.

>>718955886
>>Saving Throw
>needlessly complicated

>>718973536
you see, there are 20 possible results on a d20... that's more complicated that 2!

>/vrpg/ wrpgtard states this game doesn't have role playing
>give shadowheat the sentient amulate and cast tasha's hideous laughter on her pretending I'm tickling her

looks like roleplaying to me

What is the quintessential, pragmatic and based "not interested in your bullshit" -playthrough.
>Durge either way
No, I'm not interested schitzo murderhobo shit. I just want to kick the everloving fuck outta whatever the divine faggots or their flunkeys decide to throw at me whilst telling my companions to either "grow the fuck up", "get over it" or a mixture of the two. Hentai niggers from space decided to put a worm in my brain and now I gotta save the world, getting it out; I have no time for nonsense.

>>718963604
Hexblade's curse on a magic missile build is war crimes levels of busted anon

>>718974078
Well now I need to look up what Hexblade's Curse does. I haven't played that subclass

>>718973756
All I wanted was a female halfling werewolf romance, but apparently the devs cut that early in development.

whos best girl besides shadowcute?

>>718964548
>Tavern brawler open hand monk/thief using elixirs
>Sharp shooter hand crossbow swords bard
>Any cleric, light and life are great
>Armor of Agathas abjuration wizard

Monk and bard should each be putting out hundreds of damage a round easily. Cleric throws out buffs and sits in spirit guardians. Wizard fills whatever gaps the team needs in terms of control or AOE while being virtually unkillable and shitting out damage with magic missile

What's everyone's favorite location from the game? Mine's Rosymorn. There are a few locations in Act 3 that compete, but the view plus the music here puts it over for me:

https://youtu.be/GT3othsUIm4?t=6

>>718973993
Barbarian or Monk are both capable of mostly going their own way with a party that's mostly there to support you the few times you can't unga-bunga or OPM your way out.
There should be more than enough XP mainlining the game to reach the tiny level cap.

Temple of Elemental Evil is being re-released on Steam next month, but I think they're only making sure it runs okay on modern machines.

I hope they do more with it to bring it up to speed, but seeing how NWN2: Enhanced Edition turned out, I'm not holding my breath.

>>718974429
Minthara, because Minthara doesn't want to get spitroasted by the insufferable druid with Worf's hairline like shart does

>>718973993
This was my last character. Duergar ranger all the way. Egotistical faggots wanna stand around and talk before they fight? Fine, I'm gonna go invisible and shove this sword up your ass. Thanks for standing still

I really want a Pathfinder 2e game. Things are so much better
You failed you hold person? tought luck kid
You failed paralized? Your enemy still loses an action

>>718975406
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ossianstudios/pathfinder-the-dragons-demand/description

Funded and being made. It's a much smaller indie team, and they got a couple of their modules officially released for Neverwinter Nights 1 (Ossian Studios).
But characters will be represented like they are miniatures in a tabletop game, so keep in mind it won't have Larian or even Owlcat level production values.
And also who knows whether it'll turn out good or not. But it IS Pathfinder Second Edition.

Best shadowheart mods?

>>718975958
https://www.nexusmods.com/baldursgate3/mods/11983

>>718972249
use scrolls.
you most likely have dozens of them in your inventory.

I really hated this game, all the male characters were so annoying and rage inducing I couldn't get past the goblin camp.
Now that I have genderswapped all the male characters to women the game is far more enjoyable. Gay vampire being a creep faggo? Nope now it's a sexy vampire chick. Annoying quirky wizard being a r*ddit faggot? Not anymore, now hes a sexy annoying but in a cute way chick. Cringe inducing black guy who sold his soul because he's a retard? Nope now it's a cringe inducing dusky hued vixen idiot who sold her soul.

>>718975951
looking at the video, if they pull it off, this actually looks promising
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RlM0MdEwKzM

>>718955886
So this is really a problem of the saving throws being too high and not balanced organically. Same thing with Pathfinder games. Very annoying to throw out a sleep and it's useless to do so for 3/4 the game because you know it's gonna get resisted.

Tabletop dms obviously make the dc closer to a 14ish rather than an 18ish to make it actually doable.

Is there a mod that lets you make a custom race with whatever racial bonuses you want? I really want the orc bonuses but hate the thought of looking like one. Same goes for the Gith.

>>718976804
cast disguise self on yourself after every long rest

>>718977045
But then I can't customize how I look and have to settle with the hideous creations the devs give me

>>718967158
THAC0 is literally just roll higher than "Your chance to hit minus the armor class of your target." It sounds more complicated than it is. The only difference from modern systems is it is subtractive rather than additive, which is why 0 AC is very good, but 20 AC would be terrible.

>>718972249
>4,000 food before completing Act 1
Camp early, camp often.

>>718977704
It's worse from an intuition standpoint because Armor Class is allowed to go below 0 (in the systems where it was used).
If AC never did that, never would've felt weird.
I'm not old enough to have been around when Gygax created D&D, but I strongly suspect it was written the way it was because of the tabletop wargames he was modeling it off of, and those likely had a much narrower range of a target "Armor Class" (whatever term they would've actually used). But I don't actually know that, just my assumption.

>>718974429
jaheira, but she's not romanceable

>>718955746 (OP)
What I love about BG3 is that shit like this makes people who never touched DnD get the full experience.

>>718977920
That's correct. It was basically a holdover from the Chainmail days.

>>718978920
Nah, the full D&D experience would include something like this:
>I cast a spell!
>Alright, which one?
>...
>Which spell do you cast?
>Um...
>Where is that on my sheet?
>The section that says "spells".
>...
>This one here.
>Um...
>...
>...
>...
>I cast Earthbind!
>Okay, on who?
>...
>Um...
>I want to cast Earthbind on this guy.
>He doesn't fly, you know.
>What?
>That guy can't fly.
>...
>You know what Earthbind does, right?
>It traps them and keeps them from moving, right?
>It keeps them from flying.
>...
>They can still move, they can't fly.
>It doesn't stop them from moving?
>No.
>I don't want to do that, then.
>Um...
>...
>...
>...
>I want to cast Hypnotic Pattern.
>Okay, where?
>...
>Um...
>...
>I want to cast it on that guy.
>Centered on him?
>...
>I want to cast it on him.
>It's an AoE spell, you know.
>It is?
>Yes. 30 foot cube.
>Oh.
>In fact, you could probably get some of the other guys if you aim it between them.
>Um...
>...
>...
>...
>Okay, I do that.
>What's your save DC?
>...
>Your save DC?
>...
>Um...
>Should be written near your spells.
>Where are my spells?

>>718965619
I made a 6split spore/necro and had a blast

>>718978920
>get the full (DnD) experience
If that were true, the game would simply not run every couple weeks, or completely make certain party members unavailable for you to use for that session.

>>718968953
My tavern brawler barb/monk just threw people into abysses

>>718959971
the older versions were better because they had actual fucking rules.

>>718968971
She literally the only waifu you can be married and have a child with

>>718979771
>raising another gith's kid

>>718979904
Don't githyanki in general raise other people's children? Breeders are a specific caste.

>>718979904
See I knew you’d say that but you can also literally get married, hand off the kid to some other gith and then go ride across the astral sea with your wife

>>718980290
when do you get married?

>>718955746 (OP)
that magic system is too gay with the misses, too punishing since it also consumes a spell slot

>>718980381
When you fly away on a dragon

>>718968971
i feel like every bioware game had this ice queen who only falls in love with the player character. its just tradition now.

>>718980482
"I can fix her" is a very popular trope.
It's why the vampire is so damn popular with women in BG3.

>>718977920
Not him but the reason behind the negative AC must be the pastel colored train cars. Just like how 42 is the answer to the ultimate question of life, the universe, and everything. You don't have a precise explanation, you just feel this is the way it is.

>>718979486
Painfully accurate.

>>718980994
Even the narrator throws shade at Astarion fans.
https://youtu.be/ahNOz4fJ_LQ

>>718979486
>Tfw my friend went Champion Fighter for his very first campaign
Easy street.

>>718978920
Yeah, but it also streamlines the hell out of it. No arguing with the DM over whether the goblin is "technically" in cover or not, or spending 30 minutes waiting on Kevin to figure out how many sorcery points he has. BG3 is the fantasy of DnD without the four-hour egg timer between every combat round.

>>718956663
I don't like how they nerfed sleep in 5e. It should be a 10ft aoe spell like in Baldur's Gate 1/2 and pathfinder

PF2e is a lot better than 5e
Glad there's a mod for it for BG3

>>718972249
Resource management should be an important part of the game but BG3 throws you so many food at you while barely (if ever...) restricting Long Rests that spamming it is almost expected, especially that there are plenty of exclusive cut-scenes locked behind them. I suggest you to prioritize mechanics that re-charge on Short Rest (e.g. Rage, Ki points etc.) and make sure to exhaust what your weapons offer too.

By the end of Act1 you suppose to have multiple items (mostly Amulets and Rings) that provide certain spells or Class Actions. Since they have zero impact otherwise and there's 99% that you have better alternatives available at that point I usually put all of them into a separate Pouch. When I know I'm near a Rest I'll equip them and exhaust whatever they have to offer in the next fight of two. Freebie is always good!

>>718975958
The only 2 Shart mods you need are
>A (Somewhat) Cuter Shadowheart
>Really Shadowheart

>>718979629
You also forgot characters trying to use class features and spells without knowing how they work

>>718982923
Sleep was best in the Gold Box AD&D games

>>718984746
It turns out most people do not actually have the rules autism to play tabletop gaming at all.

Let alone the synthesis of that and roleplaying/narrative ability to actually tell an interesting story through the game.

>>718983362
While I actually enjoy 5e, from looking at this mod, if it actually works out the way it looks like from the images, that's impressive as hell and I'll need to give the PF2e mod a shot
Gameplay modification mods are my favorite mods

Everything about the writing in this game is embarassingly bad. It's the one thing holding this game back the most. Characters suck and are boring, story sucks. quests can be embarassing, there are shitty cameos of literal tranny e-celebs.

>Every 2nd NPC is either gay, a tranny or the most obnoxious zoomer hair looking monkey nog possible.
It goes past parody and you actually unironically start to ignore it and just laugh at it because it's so obviously forced.

should i try DOS2? idk much about it but hear its good. any noob trap classes i should avoid or is the game relatively balanced?

Bait works better when you don't post them back-to-back immediately, while a thread is mostly dying down. For future posts.

>>718985347
The gay gnomes were just too much

>>718985416
It's pretty balanced, just make sure your party is either 2-2 split or 4 of the same in physical/magical damage

>>718985434
There are like multiple gay faggot relationships among deep gnomes and not a single straight one. How do they even reproduce at this point. Their fertility rate has to be 0.1 or something.

What if Larian made a ... 6 character party game?!

Why the fuck Halflings look like inbred fucking retards with big heads holy shit? They should be just tiny people.

>>718985742
Because halflings were originally designed to look like hobbits (and were named accordingly until the Tolkien estate sued them)
The proportions in that image started in 3rd edition, and wasn't even consistent following it.

>>718985265
>there are shitty cameos of literal tranny e-celebs.
Isn't just one?

>>718971134
English rose

>want to be a cool necromancer/poison mage
>literally EVERYTHING in the game is immune to those specific damage types

>chinaslop adspam thread
>>>/bgg/
You can report our posts, but they're never going away. So long as the jannies allow literal ad hypocrisy, they will always have a problem
We noticed you wait until the paid for ad duration expires to delete these posts out of spite, further proving you are a janny promoting these very against the rules paid ad threads.

>>718956492
Are you seriously having trouble comprehending 5e mechanics? The most normie friendly system of all time?

>>718986412
>game lets you build edgy death god
>proceeds to fill every dungeon with undead, constructs, and poison-immune bugs
It's like Larian personally sat down and said, "Yeah, necromancer bros deserve to suffer."
What's even the point of Animate Dead if everything that dies turns into dust or explodes into moths?

>>718986412
Your necrotic damage, bro? What kind of amateur death mage are you?

BIG MISS!

>>718987753
> those specific damage types
READ THE POST MONGOLOID

>>718971072
>Selune wore the same thing I did once
>I must destroy everything she holds dear

>>718988326
Lex Luthor-level of hating

>>718974429
Gale.

>>718988030
>>literally EVERYTHING in the game is immune to those specific damage types
Dumb gypsy doesn’t know what literally or everything means

>>718964949
>>718965225
So, all the melee attacks still use STR modifier, unless it's a Finesse weapon, then it's DEX? And other "main" attributes (with a star) only used in Attack Rolls for spells? In short Paladins still use STR for Attack Rolls, not CHA?

>>718989601
Yes just dip hexblade so you can dump str and go all in on cha

>>718990215
Is that the one with the op summoned weapon? I keep seeing that one brought up in these threads. Which kinda makes me want not to play it ever, because it's way too cheesy.

>>718990285
It's also retarded roleplay wise which is why I hate it so much
A paladin did a pact...? Lol ok

Multiclassing is for homosexuals.

>>718971072
I personally believe in the Dark Moon heresy so it's more like a BPDemon woman moment

>>718971291
How the fuck does she get any followers? At least other evil powers promise something tempting for mortals.

>>718974725
Rosymorn Monastery Trail is the only place in BG3 that felt somewhat like Baldurs Gate 1 or 2.
Every other region or act is pure bullshit.

>>718990905
Shar is definitely astroturfed, no way a deity like that would ever have any significant amount of prominence. Even the full retard maximum evil gods that only psychos would draw vaguely promise their followers power. Shar doesn't though, if anything she promises the opposite of it by claiming loss and absence will free them from even wanting it.

>>718990957
Really? Worst location pre act 3. What exactly reminds you of bg 1 or 2 in the monastery?
I dislike larians everything's destroyed approach to map creation.

>>718990992
I don't know. I really disagree.

>>718991283
Viconia...

>>718991257
It felt a little like reaching the Firewine Bridge while enjoying the warm evening sun.

SANJAYA:
> Arjuna laid down his bow and began speaking quietly.
ARJUNA:
> What is a god that would not promise power,
> Even promising the opposite of it,
> That loss and absence will set you free?
> What full retard maximum evil god is that?
> What psycho would follow that god?
KRISHNA:
> In a world where the Nine Hells exist,
> Where war and bloodshed reach through every spring,
> Where those who preach good submit lands to fire and ash,
> Would you rather not stay in shadow,
> And keep your mind a secret from everyone else?
> Would you rather consign yourself to another being,
> Who wishes nothing but good for you,
> Who wishes to return you to the primeval darkness of being,
> The spotless void where the presence of pain is nada because presence itself is nada?
ARJUNA:
> Krishna, my greatest compatriot,
> What the fuck are you talking about?
Krishna:
> Wait and you shall see, my friend.

>>718990992
Loss is what draws people to Shar worship in the first place. You shouldn't underestimate the power of
>loss

>>718955746 (OP)
How do people tolerate Tactician or Honor mode with this shit, especially early game? One miss and your whole party could be wiped. I don't want to long rest after every other encounter.

>>718991894
They're just doing it for the dice and the achievement, but if you really want you can always cheese the clear with mods that make it easier.

>>718991894
If any encounter ends up becoming a losing fight due to one miss, you probably fucked up in multiple ways leading up to that point. And in an example like OP's where it's a Cleric that's missing spells, you shouldn't have relied on their damage cantrips to begin with. Them landing is more like a nice little bonus, where the class's real strength lies in buffing the consistency of the fights for other characters or providing an extra beefy target for the enemies to be distracted by.

>>718955746 (OP)
D&D is a fundamentally poor system, yes, but it's something we put up with because it means game makers have to actually implement a proper systemic ruleset of any kind into their game.

>>718960101
Nice. Now we are only waiting for the stellar blade gameplay thread.

>>718991894
you take the high ground and kill the enemies before they can get to you which act 1 allows you to do quite a lot.
Going in melee close range before level 5 is just suicide.

>>718991894
>Tactician or Honor mode
It's clearly not meant for a first playthrough. Those modes encourage meta knowledge and cheesing. It's not a challenge in the usual sense.

>>718992294
I don't think anyone familiar with RPGs should play anything but Tactician mode on their first run. The game is way too easy.

what did she mean by this

>>718956492
>im too much of a retard to understand rolling a d20 + my stat modifier

>>718992294
Tactician does not require cheesing. Tactician does not require min-maxed multiclass abortions or even the best classes. Tactician is 'I want to play the game' mode, and everything easier is varying degrees of tard mode.

>>718991894
>How do people tolerate Tactician or Honor mode with this shit
by respecing companions the moment it become available

>>718991894
The game is incredibly forgiving

>>718956492
Notice how all criticism of the game is lobbied by people who got exposed as being filtered by the game because they didn't bother reading the tooltips

You whiny faggots are the reason I need 9999 mods to make the game have a SEMBLANCE of difficulty

>doing honor mode with friends
>One guy is Arcane Archer raping everyone
>other faggot friend is a paladin reading guides thinking he's going to get every single DPS item AND the hair and everything, constantly dies and does nothing. Dumped STR to 8 but can't save scum his gay potions in MP so he does no damage
>other guy is moon druid, also tanking like a champ, doing good damage, casting spells
>decide to do magic missle evo wizard because I've not done any caster that is not bard or cleric
It's a lot of fun at level 5 with just the spellsparker, the ring to activate the rad orb gear is going to be delightful when I get it. 1 level of hexblade for the curse is top tier too, the guy I saw suggest it is a real one. Makes the missiles rarely roll low
Maybe you don't get the useful metamagics (and they are godly, I admit) but wizard class features are comfy, and I'm looking forward to Evo 10 a lot. Already the spell sculpting has been good when I need to drop some AoE down on the melees

>>718955746 (OP)
>We purposely built her wrong, as a joke.
What did Larian mean by this?

>>718993330
100% this. I got super downvoted on Reddit on the RPG forum when I said I thought Big Gay 3 is the easiest CRPG out there and it offended a shit load of people, but it's true.
Playing medium Kingmaker is harder than this game's Tactician. It's weird because Tactician in Div OS 2 was really good and quite hard.

>have to choose between fun feats that expand how you play or +1/5% chance to not wasting your turn on missed spell/attacks
Who approved this shit system?

>>718993974
5e is just piss easy at the table too. If you have a DM that uses the MM and CR ratings to try and make difficult encounters they'll still get rolled over unless you have a truly terrible party of PCs

>>718993886
your faggot friend doesn't need to save scum to get his viagra, he's just fucking it up

>>718994156
>fun feats
They're all dogshit.

>>718994226
Niggers will do anything but play pf2e

>>718994260
I tried telling him that his guide-reading shit isn't going to work in multiplayer because he might not get the hair (we're going to roll on it), there's another guy who wants the DPS stuff too (they'll need to split it, the 2 acid ring, and the 4 psychic one), and he can't save scum Potions of Faggotry to dump STR in a MP game because we're not going to sit there while he does it but he doesn't want to listen.
I've done honor a few times, and the druid and fighter aren't morons. I think those two classes could carry a run alone even if he did nothing and I did nothing (but rad orb is hardly nothing)

>>718994260
>>718994894
sorry by save scum, I meant rest scum and level scum her shop and blow all our gold (no one can steal to a reasonable degree yet so gold is low)

>>718994156
Anon, the game SHOWERS you with ways to increase your attack rolls. You get a ring in goblin camp that gives bless with no concentration to anyone healed by your healer, this works as a bonus action heal as well, even if you're at full health. Reverberation, radiant orbs, a myriad ways of gaining advantage, arcane acuity, all this shit is designed to make even a character with mere 16 in the attack stat function well. The only combat stat i would increase to 20 is STR because it allows you to pick up mid sized humanoids. So ditch those guides that recommend taking ability improvement and focus on fun feats instead.

>>718957784
Thats 5e for you

>>718994957
this guy actually plays the game

>>718994736
Yeah but they're fun e.g. charger can be used to escape attack of opportunity and bypass weight limit on push without lolblast, shield master can be used to fireball your own ally without nepobaby's careful spell, mage slayer+sentinel make mage enemies and bosses stay on their place, etc.

>>718957784
More like
>Required concentration
>Spell only last for 10 turns because dispel magic doesn't exist to poof away control spells

>>718995037
Anon, absolutely nothing stops you from taking those feats. 5% hit bonus is shit compared to the vast majority of them in actual combat when you're swimming in buffs and hit enemies with debuffs.

>>718991417
Now I see it. The outside region is awesome, sure. Doesn't make up for the atrocious inner part and the giths basically cheesing the fights. Laezel doesn't have their power.

>>718993886
>constantly dies and does nothing (as paladin)
Kek

>using cantrips
Just use your spellslots, dumbass. Rests are basically free.

>>718993954
You know the rules. And I don't think it was intentional and it was more like they're just fags who love elves so she got a Firebolt cantrip she can't hit shit with like Astarion.

>>718993974
>Kingmaker is harder than this game's Tactician.
It really isn't.

>>718995872
But I only have 2k camping supplies left!

>>718993886
The one time I played online I just rolled a moon druid so I don't need gear. I saw faggots fighting over gear coming from a mile away and lo and behold it happened. Was still a fun session but we sadly only made it to the beginning of act 3.

>>718995950
I don't, as I limit myself to non sweet veggies and ramp up resting cost. Suddenly, resting is anything but free.

>>718956763
>everyone taking significant amounts of physical damage
>have hellrider's gloves
>burn 1 spell slot to give your entire party blade ward and not only undo a chunk of the damage on everyone but halve all incoming physical damage

Story mode tourist detected.

>>718955746 (OP)
the nortubel of bg3

>>718994939
I just loot everything and sell them in my MP playthroughs to get the gold needed to start level scumming for those potions without holding others up.

>>718995930
it really is. Big Gay 3 is EXTREMELY easy. I think you might actually have to have brain damage to not be able to get past Tactician.

Is there anyway to make the combat more fun and less tedious? I don't like any of the classes or the combat?

I have no issues with fights like in IWD2 or PF:KM or WoTR but BG3 is so fucking boring and the combat feels so artificial.
I also have no issues with turn based combat like in Underrail or Age of Decadence.

>>718996016
>non sweet veggies
I can understand the other requirement but not this one. Is it just RP autism?

>>718996220
>guys this combat sucks I don't have constant stimulation and input im not frame counting there arent audio cues why cant i perfect block slide cancel 720 dolphin dive noscope animation cancel QTE button buttonmash minmax statdump stepvanish movement god fidgetspinner skibidi Ohio on god no cap no cap fr this is boring

>>718971134
>They are the prey and we are the hunters!

>>718955746 (OP)
Built for BFC

https://nymp4.rule34.xxx//images/992/20393249ca146df41677d0c364ef2591.mp4?12673912

>retards itt thinking firebolt exists to attack enemies with
The game has explosive barrels, other interactable environments and field effects in every single encounter. It couldn't be any more obvious, yet you mock yellow paint when clearly you yourself need it.

>>718996613
Meet me before Friendly Arm Inn and will 1on1 you with my uncapped level sorcerer. I have your IP, I fucked your mother and you are my son. prepare to die.

>>718996812
>firebolt doesnt exist to attack with
>yeah nigger just waddle your 8 hp ass into melee and hit them with your stick.

>>718978715
Based and mature-pilled.

>>718996220
Just install Brawl. It's INCREDIBLY fucking janky (especially with initiating combat on friendly characters), but the sheer chaos of every single encounter absolutely redeems it. It's also not as easy as I thought it would be.

>>718995930
It really is, anon. Kingmaker's difficulty isn't just inflated numbers, it punishes poor party comp, bad feat choices, and bad pathing with actual consequences. BG3 Tactician is diet challenge mode. You get spoonfed so much power by level 7 that nothing is threatening unless you're AFK or trying to get Lae'zel killed for the 40th time.

>>718978715
Her jaw is too manly compared to her BG2 depiction but otherwise theyre pretty damn close to the mark. Also
>bush
Shes a druid. I shouldn't have been surprised but I still was.

>>718996996
>isn't just inflated numbers
Idk about that. If you set difficulty to the max, Kingmaker becomes a pure AC wank.

>>718997120
>tfw did this my first play on accident.
>thought alchemists fire was just a nuke in a bottle
>supreme disappointment when I threw one at ketheric

>>718985742
Is she about to pee on that totem?

>>718996968
>Based and mature-pilled.
>posts image showing her with skin like an 18 year old

>>718997314
Not my fault you have eyesight issues and can't see the clear wrinkles and lines on her face. Image is fine.

I'm travelling with a party of 6 thanks to some modded characters. Should I use the enemy hp increase mod to balance it out or will that fuck me over later on ? Playing on tactician but I'm on console so mods can't be removed once chosen.

>>718996146
Both are easy, really. Bg3 is extremely easy.

>>718996356
>Is it just RP autism
Yes. Can go alcohol only, too. I feel bg3 is better with survival elements.

>>718993886
Your paladin friend does not sound very good at the game.
You don't need to save scum or even rest spam to do the dump STR build. If he was good at the game he could have hoarded hill giant pots in act 1 and use his money to buy the fingers when he sees them at lvl6+

I've done many STR dump runs online with friends and you don't need to do the hair builds. Plus even if he fucks up the hair he can go for the mirror later anyway.

The only build that I think genuinely sucks to do online no matter what is necromancer builds because it makes turns take even longer when you have to wait for all the undead minions to do their actions one by one and that gets old fast

>>718996996
True. Both are easy imho. You could argue its easier to ruin a character in pf1e. There I agree, as there are obvious traps and plenty, too.
Bg3 is easy, as soon as you get the hang of it. My second playthrough was a new yorker criminal, a horc monk with nothing on, but shoes, torch and the bling (rings) and booze (potions). No scrolls, as he's illiterate. Solo was easy af, and I was no expert on my second run, far from it.

>>718997539
why play with more than 1 main guy who solos everything and a couple guys who buff and heal you between fights? game is so piss easy

>>718998383
Party banter, I'd say.

>>718998321
my point was moreso he's a guide reading faggot (and to be clear, nothing wrong with reading up on stuff or guides, if you know WHY they are doing what they are doing) who refuses to just accept that doing a standard 16 STR build and taking ASI for 18 is more than enough for right now and he can respec later into GWM and redo stats.
Or hell, take 1 level of hex at 6 for 11/1 and SAD charisma.
Nope, guide says 8 str, so 8 str it is, even if he has two potions total. I think potion faggotry is gay anyways. That should've been the first thing Larian nerfed

>>718971678
The problem with Shar is that she's pointless evil in the sense that nobody would get anything out of her that they wouldn't get better elsewhere.
Bane? makes sense to worship if you're a power hungry tyrant, for example.
Shar only makes sense if you're a completely misanthropic loser with nothing going for you.

>>718998593
Yeah I really don't know why potions like that made it into the game at all as anything other than a rare drop. I don't like a lot of the Elixirs they went with, but there are some fun ones like the Bloodlust Elixir

>>718998996
There's the gauntlets and the club too. I think they just didn't want any low STR party to get too restricted by carry weight. Personally I really enjoy getting them just because I can jump everywhere.

Wyll's quest, and him in general, feels rushed as shit and wasted potential. You save Ravenguard and then he forgets all his apparent years long animosity towards you in one dialogue option because you shared your memories with him through the tadpole, as if he has reason to trust that as genuine. And almost nobody in Baldur's Gate recognises you as the famous hero and son of the duke. Mizora is all over the place too, you can refuse her bargain of saving Ravenguard, and still save Ravenguard, and she just pouts. Barely feels like Wyll's a warlock plotwise.

>>718998593
Yea that's what I meant by him being bad at the game
He doesn't properly understand how to play the game nor its systems, since he's just being an NPC following everything the guide says like a robot

From your other post it sounds like he's already fucked up whatever guide he's looking at anyway so really he should just respec but I have a feeling he's going to be a stickler and stay that way for the rest of your run

Also pots are based and let you do meme builds. Of all the things that are easily abusable and outright broken in BG3, pots are very low on that list.
>>718996993
KEK
This mod looks based, I should try it out
I can already see how much the fps will tank when you do the group fights in acts 2 and 3

>>718955746 (OP) Sacred flame: 1 dmg

>>718999234
Every interaction with Mizora and Wyll is her being some campy bad bitch (hot as fuck) and Wyll going DAMN YOU TO THE HELLS, MIZORA

>>718996993
That looks very stupid and fun. Does the RTwP mode have it at one action every 6 seconds or is it just pure chaos?

>>718999270
>Of all the things that are easily abusable and outright broken in BG3, pots are very low on that list.
Well, I mean, fair enough. There's certainly enough other stuff that breaks the game. I refuse to use the resonance stone, for one. They'll remove Giant Barb's bug that made it good (not even on the same level as the meta builds, but really fucking good) but leave that in. Baffling sometimes, but it's easy enough to ignore the worst of the cheese

As far as my retard friend goes, yeah. That's why I said I wasn't worried, another friend playing warrior archer and a moon druid on another can carry honor mode alone. Druids are just amazing with lack of gear being kind of boring.

>>718998383
Did you even read what I said ? lol
I want to make it harder potentially, but not if it will become so hard later on that it ruins the game and I can't remove the mod. I'll be travelling with a party of 6 regardless.

>>718998963
>completely misanthropic loser with nothing going for you
many such cases

>>718996993
That's cool but what does it do besides cosmetic?

>>718958415
I made her an absolute healslut and buffer who could crowd control with Spirit Guardians

>>718999516
Varying levels of pure chaos. You can set it up to be RTWP with companions doing their thing with their own AI a la Dragon Age but you can also go TB-mode at will to let yourself do the thing you need. There's also a mode that lets all enemies think for a second before doing all of their turns at once as an upgraded Swarm AI thingy so that it's TB but the turns are much flashier and faster. You can let companions limit spells so that they don't expend all of their slots in 2 seconds or you can allow it. You can also allow you but also every single enemy in the game cast spells without any slot or ki restrictions. You can set up HP multipliers so that you actually have a chance to react to anything.
Predictably, you either have to position yourself accordingly or give in to the chaos. I had the whole overland Goblin camp cleared out with only one of my guys actually trying to deal damage while the other one is absolutely dead, the other is downed and the third is spending all the time getting the downed guy up so he can get downed again. You'd have to revise a bit of how you approach combat in general, though.
>>718999669
Fucks up the whole gameplay loop, basically. You can turn it off at any moment at the press of a button, though.

>>718999565
Yea the resonance stone is pretty dumb with how OP it is
You sound like a fun player to play with. I wish some of my friends were still down to do some BG3 runs, but I think they're all fatigued as we did a fuck ton of them, need to wait a couple more months so I can encourage them to do a new run with the new subclasses.
I think some of the most fun online runs I've done in the game are when everyone agrees to come up with some unique meme build (but it actually works so you're not dead weight) or doing themed party builds, those can get so chaotic and OP even when you're not trying to cheese the game.

Speaking of things Larian never fixed, the issues with some of the feats are really retarded with how Larian has never fixed them despite some of these bugs being around since launch, so you still need to rely on mod fixes.

>>718955871
what game is bella ramsey in now?

>>718999895
when DivOS2 is on sale I'm going to grab it for my poorfag friend and the other two already own it. I think that is going to be a ton of fun because it's harder and the builds are WAY more open.
I want to see what godawful horrible builds my friends do and if I can carry on a geo/pyro or archer or something
I do wish there were more games like this for multiplayer

>>718999956
Busy ruining the world in manga.

>>718996812
Yeah her and Astarion's firebolt basically solves several early game encounters. Particularly the looters in the ancient temple if you jump into the pit, there's an oil barrel that wipes them all

>>719000136
Hope you guys have a good time with it, I'm personally more of a fan of Div2 than BG3 just because of the way builds work but the health/armor system was very flawed so I hope Larian has a better idea of how to handle it for when they eventually do Div3

Since Larian's doing the space game next though I hope the wait for that isn't too long, I really don't want that game to release in 2030+

>>718994226
>5e is just piss easy at the table too.
The campaign that I'm currently playing in is 5.5 and the DM makes sure that every combat is ballbreaking, which is exactly what the players at the table want and this includes someone entirely new to DnD.

>>719000396
>I really don't want that game to release in 2030+
Amen anon, I'm already old and don't want to die before I get to play one more silly writing but fun gameplay Larian RPG

>>719000449
Yep well said anon, here's hoping the wait's not too long
Nice talking with you too

>>718998593
Larian made the mistake that you have mmo merchants instead of actual rpg merchants and powerful crap is everywhere littered. Their idiot map designs leads to boring design with few side quest dungeons, if any. Look how much bg1 had in terms of side quests. Rpg merchants need to have set stock, not random and constantly refilling. Swen wants the people to be creative and ultra powerful, lame.

>>719000307
>Purple barrel will in some cases instantly kill two of the Intellect Devourers
>Oil barrel in the temple
Incredibly easy encounters.

>>718999234
He should've been a fraud. The goblin who took his eye was cut, too.

>>719000686
Wand of fireball is 10 min from the start of the game and the rest is made piss easy.You never play bg 1.

>>718955746 (OP)
Are there any loli mods yet?

>>718986412
>saw the crafting system
>immediately wanted to make a poisoner/rogue build
>wonky ingredient system: barely ever got poison stuff, all the while I was swimming in Potions of psychic resist
>95% of act 2 is immune to poison, and a good chunk of act 3 as well
>no feats for it
At least throwing bombs was fun as fuck

>>718955746 (OP)
I played a Draconic Sorcerer in a Durge run recently and it pretty much trivializes this entire game

>>719000686
BG2 had another issue of shops selling static but absolutely BROKEN gear. Fucking Defender of Easthaven aven and Firetooth

playing without a party limit is just so fun

>>718955746 (OP)
>using your early game cleric’s turns trying to hit stuff when its literally only her job to be de/buffing and healing
Makes me wanna start another run.
I keep wanting to start, but then lack the time to commit to it.

>>718957719
Moon.
Beast boy is a fun build.

>always want to evil durge
>never get far with it
Is slayer form worth it even? I hear its pretty whack. Especially on fighty classes who its maybe just a sidegrade to.

>>718955746 (OP)
Have they implemented the lone wolf perk from dos2 yet?

>>719004045
Slayer form is complete shit. You might find some worth if you're a melee-heavy class but all the cool Slayer-specific abilities you get use the form's absolutely AWFUL mental stats, so it never ends up being worth using over your normal form.

i genuinely hate the combat in this game. d&d doesn't translate well onto computers because the computer is actually trying to kill you. a real dm would at least give you a fighting chance or make up funny descriptions if you keep rolling 1s but here you just miss over and over and reload a save. kind of cancer

>>719004490
my man, this game was made so soccer moms can beat "tactician"
it even gives you pity dice by default

>>719004335
see, thats so sad.
Finally a game that really gives you an actual reward for going evil, and it’s just bad. Not even on purpose, and they absolutely hate balancing shit in this game, except the final update ‘heres a bunch of op as fuck subclasses lol’

>>719005121
Swarmkeeper is hilarious. I made a dual hand crossbow swarmkeeper/open hand monk in honor of Jason stathams hit film “the beekeeper” and flying across the map on a swarm of bees to punch someone is fun

>>719004736
Problem is the broken builds are super broken while the meh shit can't survive with just +1 store equipments and not backtracking/stealing every single thing you need, which is how normal DnD campaigns normally went. And then there's shit like gnoll archer attacking 3 times while you're still only able to attack 1 time if you don't explore everything around first to EXP farm and not starting the encounter from inside the cave.

>>719004736
i mean i'm not suffering too much, i am dramatizing a little. it is quite irritating to miss like 3 times in a row, though. the worst is when i need to do something like knock a chandelier down on an enemy and i deal 1/2 damage to it with an attack that can do like 3-14.
you think you formulated a strategy or did something smart but then you rolled a 1 so fuck you, with a human dm it's at least relatively funny

>>719006203
I watched my fighter friend miss every single attack during the goblin camp fight. We were rolling with laughter
I think RNG in RPGs is fine

>>719006494
well, sure, it's amusing when i'm playing tabletops with my friends, but i'm definitely not going to be giggling to myself missing 3 times when i'm alone in a dark room in front of my computer screen

>>718955746 (OP)
Just don't play gay porn "games", retard

>>718955746 (OP)
Speaking of shadowheart. Trying to finish leveling her but the prompt is bugged. Tried reseting game and its still happening. Only choice I had was spells since they are just lvl 3. Is there another way to fix it ?

>>718964548
this fucking stealth archer build:
https://youtu.be/JLkItLjbj8s

video is long but only because it goes through every single bit of gearing at all levels as well as strats for bosses and explaining how it works
tl;dr stealth is broken

>>718964816
use bg3 mod manager

>>719009859
this lady is like the only Youtube person I see the autismo theorycrafters who don't even play the game anymore and only play spreadsheets say good things about

Bladesinger is just ridiculously good, what the fuck
He may be even stronger than swords bard because he's also almost impossible to kill, 30 AC on level 3.

>>718980428
you are not building correctly

>>719010417
the tradeoff is you get hit once on a 20 and you die instantly like a sad paper bag

>>718997183
No. She's just considering if she can fit the whole totem in her

>>719010584
That's why you split into a shadow sorcerer who comes with a built-in unlucky crit protection even before the darkness bullshittery comes online.

>>719010453
it's been years since playing but i remember thinking "better not use this spell since it has a failure chance" many times

>>719010584
the other tradeoff is there don't hit that hard compared to other shadow blade users, and much less if not using it
It's well balanced, unlike Swords Bard (OP)

>>719010720
Perhaps but you should know your enemy or at the very least use common sense
>see enemy
>want to use hold person
>enemy looks like some sort of cleric
>spell casting characteristic is not main stat
>hold person fails
Well duh
Also you can check the enemy's stats by left clicking them
Or use abilities or skills that would reduce their save throw before hand with another character.
You will be surprised how much those spells can help in the battlefield if used correctly.

>>719010720
"Save or suck" spells aren't great, especially if you aren't build for high spell dcs. Most of the best spells in the game don't suffer this issue though. Things like hunger of hadar, spirit guardians, sleet storm, bless, fog cloud etc have powerful effects that don't force saves at all

I'll give it to larian, they made a lot of really cool items that play around with the system's mechanics in ways that the actual TTRPG would never.
Are the items balanced? In the sense that there's such a variety and so many ways to make broken builds, I guess.
Really tickles my 3.5e loving brain.

>>719010417
Sword bard's burst potential is way higher than bladesinger. High AC is nice, but killing the enemies before they an go is even berter

>>719011319
>Sword bard's burst potential is way higher than bladesinger
On their own they are actually the same (self haste vs flourishes), and bladesinger gets shadow blade without dips.

>>719010990
it's been years so i cant really explain my position well but what annoyed me the most was the all-or-nothing with spells. would have been more fun if the spell always succeeded but could have less power/duration/aoe etc depending on how much it was resisted

for example if the chance of success on poison is 80% then there's a 20% chance that the poison would be 20% less powerful.
if the chance is 25% then there's 75% chance it is 75% less powerful. maybe not exactly like that but something like it would be more fun than "you get nothing".

>>719011812
You'll be happy when they make a pathfinder 2e game

So which Origin is the best written? Already completed the game once as Dark Urge.
Custom seems pointless.

>>718966401
>Why would Warlock be int based? They don't need to know or research anything. They just have to try to control the Eldrich horror that has connected to them. Their powers are more similar to a sorcerer where they're just trying to control the power with their will. Having them be int based never made sense.

5e warlocks were originally supposed to be INT based but they changed it to CHA for legacy reasons. All the lore for them is still INT coded.

>>718955746 (OP)
>Op realizes a turn based system where you have low accuracy is a bad idea

>>718955746 (OP)
>pop spirit guardians
>put on wards
>sit in the middle of the enemy pack and chuck shit at them
Shart's default build is actually really fucking bad, that's why people struggle with her
you gotta respec her

>>719014143
Also, her firebolt is int based, so the accuracy will almost always be bad if she's a Cleric what's with the wis focus.

>>719014261
Shadowheart being dumb is funny

>>719014349
And mechanically relevant.

>>719011945
you already played the best written one
Wyll kinda feels like the other designated MC because >CHA but he's...Wyll
I recall Gale having some neat stuff
what I am saying, is you ain't getting a Sebille in this game

>>719014261
Stats are the least relevant ever in 5e. Turn based is just garbage. Cantrips are stupid

>>718959769
If you wanna see some real bullshit multiclass a paladin into hexblade
I think booming blade does more damage than any smite spell and it doesn’t even use a spell slot

>>719015286
I think on Honor it's pretty bad compared to the other options.Pure Hexblade is a lot better in my opinion. Full upscale Shadow Blade, 3 level 5 spell slots a short rest (so three level 5 smites, yes, regular hexblade gets 4 smite spells including one paladin doesn't get), Hexdrinker and distraction ghosts. Adding paladin weakens it.

Although Elf Sorcadin is probably really great too (booming blade and full upcasted SB, with LOTS of smites)

>>719015286
>>719015778
For Honour Mode you'd only be getting one level in Warlock compared to the five for Tactician and below.

>>719015884
oh well yes, if you're referring to 11/1 then I don't really count that as a real multiclass but it's a pretty high fucking value dip and keeping the improved smite at 11

>>719015286
Booming Blade is a full smite at level 11 and only deals more if the enemy moves. They never move.

>>719016345
>They never move.
Just shove them.

>>719016345
>They never move.
free disengage from Swash, it's fun

>>719016376
But I used my bonus action to hit him again. Any melee worth its salt is attacking at least five times a turn.

>>718959935
Swords bard doesn’t need admixture to be the craziest nonsense in the game, just the mystic trickster ring. Nothing says “fair and balanced” quite like attacking four times and then laying down unbreakable CC spells.

Shadowheart sucks not because of cantrips, but because of her utterly horrendous stat spread and the absolutely atrocious armor economy she has to work with in the game. Larian thought it would be really funny to give her 13 points in both STR and DEX for a mother fucking cleric--a class that is already desperate for high stats across the board. But some of her best armor/weapons are so at odds with one another when it comes to creating builds for her that it boggles the mind as to what in the ever-loving FUCK Larian was thinking when they designed this bitch. Too many cooks doesn't even begin to describe it.

Her Dark Justiciar half plate is medium armor, which is good for hybrid builds, and can technically lend well to stealth while still providing adequate protection. But this also requires at least 14 in DEX. But if you want to use the accompanying spear you get in Act 2, you need fucking STRENGTH. But wait, she's a spell caster, so DEX is required as well. Larian also gives you a bunch of super strong shields in Act 3, but good fucking luck making her useful in melee range if you have her go full DEX. So, basically, with Clerics, they try to be both melee and spell-based while not being particularly great at either. But with Shadowheart, this problem is exacerbated ten fold

>>719017283
just fucking respec her and change her stat spread you giga autist.

>>719017383
That doesn't fix the whole problem, retard

Any mods that make Eldritch Knight NOT shit?
>dude, just multiclass
No.

>>719017796
You'd rather mod than multiclass?
How queer.

>>719017796
>Any mods that make Eldritch Knight NOT shit
Eldritch Knight is one of the most powerful builds in the game, just throw weapons.

>>719017283
Clerics are either melee with support or spells, they can’t work with both. Unless you’re slapping of of the free stat items on her, she’s either a melee war cleric or literally anything else spellcaster. Dump her strength because she’ll never use that shit because she’ll never be in the same postal area as her targets. She can engage in incidental melee once she kills Viconia and gets her stat mace.

>>719017862
If I have to multiclass, then it's not Eldritch Knight.
>Yo, it's sk8terboy65789 here, and I have the BEST ELDRITCH KNIGHT BUILD for you guys!
>See, what you do is, take three levels of EK, and then multiclass into Assassin for 5 levels, and then dip into Fighter....
And that's when I exit YouTube.

>>719017796
is this post a joke?

>>719017796
>eldrich knight
You mean the class that’s attacking five times per turn at like level 5 and 7 times at 11? You mean the class that caps 30 AC by midgame? You mean the booming blade user that smites twice a turn?

>>719018007
>EK
>then dip into Fighter

>>719017796
skill issue

>>719017948
>dump STR
>incidental melee with mace
herp derp

>>719018007
you should exit the game too if you can't figure out that 12 EK is the strongest melee possible in the game right now
How retarded are you, man?

>>719018060
he doesn't even know what class he is KEK

>>719018084
The Viconia mace gives you strength for free. It’s a stat boost item like the stick of strength or the gloves of dexterity.

>>719018060
No one likes pedantry
lmao

>>719018104
What are you primarily doing at level 12 in combat as an EK?

>>719018165
hitting something with booming blade like 7 times without haste because of war magic?
Again, are you retarded?

>>719018047
that just sounds like Battle Master.

>>719018165
Attacking. Seven times. You do like 400 damage a turn trivially. You also are AC fuck you and have great saves. You can also use any number of items to boost spells while also attacking seven times. You will always get a free extra attack with your bonus action every single turn.

>>719018274
lol no
I don't think you've played this game before

>>719018236
Again, Battlemaster. I want to immerse myself into the role. If I am primarily using melee as an EK, then I'll just forego the pretense and go with the more melee oriented subclasses of fighter.

>>719018274
Battle master is battlefield control and consistency. EK is perfect defense while also hitting as hard as or harder than paladins.

>>719018350
battlemaster doesn't have war magic you fucking retard
>I picked a fighter and I use melee
>how could this happen to me

oh this is the same retard as the other thread who thinks EK is weak because he's in act 1 still dying to gnolls
lmao

>>719018440
No, but I am attacking with my sword rather than using...war magic. How are you this dense?

>>719018495
>I picked a fighter and I have to hit things with my sword
>how could this happen to me
lol retard

>>719018350
If you want to primarily use spells as a fighter, what the fuck are you playing fighter for? You understand that you get like two level two spells by level 12 right? Your spells are for things like mirror image, grease, magic missile, shit like that. You just also get access to booming blade, the strongest cantrip in the game.

>>719018485
Let me rephrase my original question to the idiots here:
>HOW DO I MAKE ELDRITCH KNIGHT'S MAGIC NOT SUCK ASS WITH MODS

>>719018485
EK is only slightly worse than Battle Master out of the box and passes it quickly.

>>719018547
Anon...EK is literally a magic/melee hybrid class. Or...is supposed to be, on paper...

>>719018613
>how do I make a fighter attack things with level 2 spell slots because I can't read
well you start by deleting the game and then maybe carrying a toaster into your full tub

>>719018613
If you want good magic, DON’T PLAY A 1/3rd CASTER. Your spells are for support and incidental damage, you are a FIGHTER so you HIT THEM SEVEN TIMES.

>>719018686
retard

>>719018613
Play a caster instead, retard.

>>719018742
Okay, so just play Battlemaster and ignore EK for being a superfluous subclass that adds nothing to the table in terms of fun or roleplaying. Gotcha

nigga wants to cast Int spells with a 4 Int IRL lmao