Thread 719092148

What do you want from the next Zelda?

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>>719092148 (OP)
>What do you want from the next Zelda?

I don't really know how to top TotK to be honest. Mind you, I said that about BotW too.

>>719092148 (OP)
A Zelda game, instead of Ubislop.

>>719092148 (OP)
No more BOTW-like crap

BotW map but this time the Sheikah are purple

>could have easily made an interesting game about flying between islands and making aircrafts, almost like an inverse WW
>no, we must include Hyrule again, and mines!
>the sky that we originally advertised? Just a bait and switch. It's mostly empty lol
t-thanks Aonuma

>>719092148 (OP)
bikini zelda with huge tits

>>719092148 (OP)
>open-air again with original items
>more dungeons like Hyrule Castle populating the world
>brand new world (Read: not another fucking 3D with Hyrule for the 30th time)
That's it. They can do whatever they want about anything else, this is the only three things I desperately need.

>>719092307
Birds shouldn’t be this beautiful.

>>719092745
>flying between islands and making aircrafts
You can already do that. Also, building vehicles is gay as shit. Thankfully Nintendo made it optional, it's just a function of what Ultrahand can do.

A game focused on Sheik.

Zelda devs seem obsessed with making gameplay systems, spending years experimenting and refining them, then making the bare minimum token content for it only to abandon the previous gameplay system in the new game so they can work on a new one, where the content will also be dull, forgettable, and sparse

I would like a Zelda game with meticulously handcrafted content that feels unforgettable, I want the game to feel like a top tier RPG/JRPG but with dynamic gameplay, instead of feeling like the worst parts of MMOs

>>719093082
>You can already do that
Yeah except that the islands are mostly barren and they are too far in the beginning (minus the fact there's an invisible barrier at the start) forcing you to go down to Hyrule and make you use those stupid tower chutes. And to even do the few sky dungeons you have to go to the villages on the ground. I want a sky-only adventure. I unironically wanted skyblock zelda edition

>>719092148 (OP)
Real dungeons

>>719093609
>only to abandon the previous gameplay system in the new game
I mean, yeah. That's a good thing. Each game tries to be different from each other and try out new gimmicks and mechanics. Only autistic retards want to play the same game over and over again.

>>719093917
It would be a good thing if they explored even 10% of what the gameplay system can do before abandoning it in the next game

It's like spending years and tons of money on building a crazy concept car, driving it around the neighborhood once, then scrapping it for parts without ever going full speed on a racetrack with it

>>719093915
This. Real dungeons and real music. Fuck off with your tech demo dungeons and sparse piano music

for the love of god give us a new setting
old school green tunic link
No breakable weapons
I want thick heavy forests to get lost in

>>719092148 (OP)
New map. Link and Zelda going on an adventure together. Tweaked combat. No durability. More "specialized" tools like BotW instead of TotK. Caves like TotK. More focus on "layered" exploration like sky-mountaintops-flat land-underground-underwater. Dungeons that aren't sterotyped trash where its "Go to generically themed dungeon. Get tool. Use tool. Beat boss with tool." They should be similar in scope to the DLC dungeon in BotW. Same focus on the living, breathing world with lots of interaction BotW and TotK had. Absolutely nothing from OoT and its clones unless Midna's butthole is a surprise side character.

>>719094058
>tech demo dungeons
Hyrule Castle shits all over whatever prior 3D dungeon you could possibly think is good.

>>719094405
but the new dungeons should have "push this stone in" -> a random door anywhere in the dungeon opens type puzzles again

>>719092485
Eric here. Zelda is shit.

>>719094687
God, I hate random block-pushing puzzles so much. Why the fuck do they need to pad out the dungeons with so much fillershit all the time.

>>719092148 (OP)
Since this game model don't seem like it's going away all I want is BotW/TotK again but biggerer and betterer

>>719093374
Why do trannies love Sheik so much?

>>719094241
>Tweaked combat.
At the very least they need to drop the retarded focus on lock-on.

>>719092148 (OP)
Just make wind waker 2 i dont give a shit

>>719094405
>giant castle with nothing but the same handful of enemies to fight
>only things to find are more weapons
>"puzzles" are you moving shelves
How was it better? Le heckin atmosphere? Fuck off.

>>719096203
>>giant castle with nothing
Least delusional OoTnigger.

>>719095995
There's a lot more the combat needs to be good than just that.

>>719096203
>giant castle with multiple interconnected routes, secrets and things to find and 10/10 music
The only way you can pretend it's bad is if you're the kind of retarded OoToddler who thinks dungeons need a dungeon item that's then used as a glorified key to unlock every braindead puzzle in the second half of the dungeon, and also there needs to be slow block/statue pushing.

>>719092148 (OP)
Structured adventure. Real dungeons.

>>719092485
what makes totk better than botw

>>719096646
>secrets and things to find
Again, a bunch of filler reskin weapons and worthless logs thanks to NoA butchering the localization.

>>719096132
Made to incubate Link/Rito hybrid eggs.

>>719092307
fpbp

Majoras Mask 2 but not Majoras Mask. Make it something new.

>>719097110
>worthless logs thanks to NoA butchering the localization.
Not my 問題

>>719092148 (OP)
A return to the actual Zelda formula.
Wind Waker and Twilight Princess barely count, Skyward Sword doesn't count and BotW/TotK definitely don't count.
Just want to reconfigure some large ancient building interspersed with some combat. No room by room puzzle solving, no puzzle enemies that turn everything into moment to moment puzzleslop.
>>719092485
Better UI.
Actual dungeons.
Combat is exclusively littering.
>>719093609
It's just Aonuma being retarded and ascending to higher and higher positions while his underlings are all unassertive and struggling through Japanese work culture.
>>719093917
The systems should build on eachother. Recent Zeldas peak at the tutorial and maybe just staple puzzles on the side, but nothing on top.
>>719094405
And it's still a single dungeon with the kind of complexity you'd expect from the first BotW dungeon, not the final and only dungeon. I also thought it was peak BotW, aside from everything that was just the tutorial again, but it can't carry the game on its own.
>>719096646
A dungeon should encourage the player to keep the layout and configuration in mind, rather than being solved room by room.

>>719096203
>>"puzzles" are you moving shelves
That's not a puzzle you stupid retard. That's exploring, looking around the environment and finding secret hidden passages.

Something I realized recently: classic Zelda games were like Metroidvanias but overhead instead of sidescrolling. I will not elaborate.

>>719092148 (OP)
For it to fuck off.

>>719097530
>it's still a single dungeon with the kind of complexity you'd expect from the first BotW dungeon
That's not a BotW's first dungeon (well it can be) and it has some of the best level design I have ever seen in a 3D action-adventure game. That kind of complexity needs to be a staple going forward.
>not the final and only dungeon
BotW has 5 dungeons (7 if you get the DLC, Master Trials and Champion's Ballad).
>aside from everything that was just the tutorial again
What? Do you mean the game building off its ideas and expanding their concepts? That's just good game design.

>>719092485
>I don't really know how to top Totk

You need Christ in your life. You sound possessed or retarded, in which case all you can do is pray for wisdom.

>>719092148 (OP)
Ocarina of Time reimagining

open world with no loading screens
900 gold skulltulas
instead of sheika and zonai there's crafts
play through the first three dungeons in any order
play through the last six dungeons in any order
bombastic set piece cinematic boss fights
can climb anything but gone is the glider beware of heights
magic bean plants are controllable but they degrade quickly
no magic meter just the stamina bar for everything
all the medallions are spells and elemental arrow types
every grotto in the game has a shrine puzzle of sorts
young link can ride epona
can switch between adult and young link anywhere using song of time
songs can be macroed if you would rather press one button to have it play
ice cavern and bottom of the well are expanded into larger dungeons
bottom of the well is how you initially access shadow temple
gold skulltula tokens reward you with either health, stamina, inventory space, movement speed, crafting recipes

>>719098692
And a playable naked Young Link

>>719092148 (OP)
Whatever ISN'T in it.

>>719093915
Yes

>>719093609
>devs seem obsessed with making gameplay systems, spending years experimenting and refining them,
indeed, the rumor is that these systems are going into the next Starfox game. where you use your ultrahand to build vehicles to get around and explore planets.

>>719092148 (OP)
More of Echoes of Wisdom, but 3D world.(maybe do it as a spin off)

Dungeons given the same treatment the overworld got in BotW

A widely different setting like Wind Wanker offered.

The franchise is moving in the right direction, but needs the world to feel more "alive".
As it is it's a mildly amusing sandbox, but the next step is to flesh out the world a bit more. They started doing that by having all the zones/areas/biomes feel more complex than before but it still comes off too simplistic.
Basically add more content to the tech demo they made.

Wind Waker but in space

>>719096869
Everything good from BotW but with more content and better main dungeons

>>719098225
if I were ranking dungeons from the series I would have Sky island start in Totk as number 1 and Hyrule castle in Botw as number 2, ngl, those are better than everything the series had to offer

>>719092148 (OP)
Drop the "Make your own fun" sandbox design approach from the Switch era cancer games, and go back to properly crafted dungeon experiences.

>>719099045
Sandboxes are so much more fun than strictly linear games. I am wary of them going back to the before times.

>>719092148 (OP)
A TP like

>>719098882
>Star Fox
>Ever getting another game
>Ever getting another game that's not just 64 again, if anything
You wish. Neither Miyamoto nor Star Fox fans know what they want

>>719097530
>A dungeon should encourage the player to keep the layout and configuration in mind, rather than being solved room by room.
Hyrule Castle has more interconnectivity which necessitates memorizing the whole layout than whatever "real" Zelda dungeon you're pretending is good.

>>719098896
How do you make a more real realized world than BotW/TotK? The games already do a good job of having the inhabitants feel alive.

>>719092148 (OP)
the same game but with a slightly different map and more are you a human captcha puzzles

>>719099223
Zero might be getting a remaster, but the next game is likely going to be a sandbox style game.

>>719099162
>Sandboxes are so much more fun than strictly linear games
The problem with sandbox games like ToTK where a mechanic is the core design is that if you're not a turbo autist that can make crazy shit with the build system, you're just going to get bored

>>719092148 (OP)
smaller but denser open world, shrines to have unique aesthetics per region, tools that use magic as a resource, more robust potion brewing stuff for the new MP bar

>>719099396
Or you can just play the game normally and not build vehicles? Do you think Ultrahand exists for the purpose of solely making a pointless car?

>>719099396
The problem with linear games like OOT where a mechanic is the core design is that when it gets iterated on it then ages poorly. After you play through the game a couple times and remember it too well you're just going to get bored.

>>719099045
Your favorite Zelda game sucks and features no actual exploration.

>>719092485
There's nothing to "top" here, the game is really boring after your first playthrough.

>>719092485
Except those mountains are less than half a mile away and 300m high at most.

>>719096851
>Structured adventure
What does this even mean? A linear and railroaded game with a retarded sidekick who needs to tell you how to open a fucking door?

>>719096646
For starters I think that Zelda fans could stand to play games that were not made by Nintendo to get a better idea of what dungeons can actually be. Hell even if you're a tendie that would never touch other hardware they did release the first Grimrock game on the switch

>>719100501
It means he wants another OoT clone but wants to pretend he's an oldfag so he needs to steer away from how open ended the original LoZ was, so he needs to focus on the mandatory parts of the game and pretend the "structure" is what made it fun as opposed to the open ended exploration, since BotW did that well.

>>719097110
There's lots of weapons in Hyrule Castle because it's combat focus, but it's not the only thing that exists in the level you know.

>>719099551
>Proceeds to post that one video showing how one player drags the Koroks by hand and another showing how it's dragged with an over-designed contraption, mocking the former.

>>719099572
>After you play through the game a couple times
Why do you need to play it more than once? It's a crafted experience for a reason, not a "do whatever, we don't care" sandbox

>>719100535
Hyrules Castle in BotW is one of my favorite video game dungeons. I've played Grimrock. I went through the tower in the BG1 expansion. I've played both Thief games and a million fan missions. I've been through the giant 3D mazes like Foggy Bogbottom in Forgotten Sepulcher. I've swam through the Cistern in Tomb Raider. I've spent well over 100 hours in Bitterblack Isle. I've played a fair number of gridmaze blobbers. etc etc. I do agree that tendies don't play enough games, and that's why a lot of the ones who grew up on OoT think Hyrule Castle in BotW was bad. They're conditioned to like OoT style dungeons, which are fucking boring.

>>719100882
and Forgotten Sepulcher in Arcane Dimensions*

>>719098990
Sky Island was great, it's not really a dungeon though.

>>719092307
yes

>>719100631
Wonder if these people are going to commit mass suicide when the Switch 2 Zelda goes even harder in BotW's direction. Aonuma already told them this type of gameplay is the staple now.

>>719092148 (OP)
Hopefully another empty grass field simulator with gmod physics puzzles. Make sure there's no permanent items or dungeons since that's from the dark era of Zelda. Wouldn't mind if they just re-used BotW's map again since that's just smart asset re-use, but let them have time to breathe so give it another 6-7 year dev cycle and charge $90 for it.

>>719097204
Pringles nose

Why is the mouth not part of the beak?

>>719092148 (OP)
>if TotK didn't exist
Make another game in the same style as BotW but not a sequel
>since TotK exist
Make something else, maybe a classic Zelda again

>>719100882
>They're conditioned to like OoT style dungeons, which are fucking boring.
The style of OOT's dungeons is ridiculously good, the difficulty is nonexistent. It adds up to a package I can't call perfect, but it's good enough that I wanted to see it refined, and I've been annoyed Nintendo couldn't provide ever since. Maybe putting the guy specifically behind OOT's dungeons in charge of the entire series was a bad call!
I don't like most of BotW, but I do actually like Hyrule Castle. I could enjoy a dungeon or two similar to it in a future Zelda game. I just also want to see some puzzle dungeons. I could settle for something designed like BOTW's or even TOTK's normal dungeons if they were on a scale like Hyrule Castle.

>>719101841
>The style of OOT's dungeons is ridiculously good,
A central room with some moving gimmick and a bunch of auxillary rooms that you have to go through in a mostly linear order doing braindead, slow "puzzles" that are eye shooting, block pushing or using the tool you were just given. Where's the good part?

>>719092148 (OP)
Same as I've wanted in the next zelda since MM, more MM

>>719101841
>I just also want to see some puzzle dungeons.
Those already exist in BotW/TotK, and they are much more fun than previous games. Hell, random Shrines in BotW have better puzzles than the entirely of games like OoT and TP put together. They have far more going on mechanically and, better level design.

>>719100814
>Why do you need to play it more than once?
wow nice replayability you have there, totally a game worth owning

>>719101023
Replay it and pay attention to the design of it. It makes total sense as a dungeon.

I would like a game that further explores Link’s transgender tendencies.

>>719101841
>The style of OOT's dungeons is ridiculously good
no not really, the best one is the one the fans criticize, the water temple

Something that's a worthy successor to OoT and MM. There hasn't been a Zelda game since that comes close.

>>719102552
>the fiest Zelda games I played at age 8 are the best ever!
Wow, that's a crazy coincidence!

>>719102552
Thankfully, because TP surpassed OoT and MM is far outclassed by Shenmue & Outer Wilds. Gimmicks do not a good Zelda game make.

>>719102286
>same cruddy sheikah theme
>shitty non-music
>no unique enemies, just goo eyes
>same looking forgettable bosses that can be beat in a second
The puzzle themselves are more dope but fuck everything else.

>>719101482
>Wonder if these people are going to commit mass suicide when the Switch 2 Zelda goes even harder in BotW's direction
I simply stopped buying+caring

>>719103009
>same cruddy sheikah theme
>>shitty non-music
>>no unique enemies, just goo eyes
>>same looking forgettable bosses that can be beat in a second
True, OoT is garbage with some of the worst boss fights in vidya.

>>719103009
>non-music
This was the worst thing about BotW for me. It was just so...dull.

I wanna swim underwater and have satisfying combat like Wind Waker again.

>>719093917
>That's a good thing. Each game tries to be different from each other and try out new gimmicks and mechanics. Only autistic retards want to play the same game over and over again.

Tell that to the Star Fox fanbase

Zelda peaked with OoT. Downhill ever since. MM was good, but not an upgrade.

>go back to magic instead of tech
>stop giving Link the ability to construct things
>learn how to combine puzzles, combat, and an overworld because they clearly forgot now that shrines are so separate from everything and the "dungeons" are worse than the shrines
>shitload more enemies, who gives a fuck if they can't use weapons or cook
>make horses worth using again

>>719092148 (OP)
to be a zelda game

>>719103305
When did WW have underwater swimming. That was only MM and TP.

>good story with themes of bravery, sacrifice, loyalty, betrayal, love, hate, war, peace, honour, piety
>interesting characters
>non-childish art style
>nothing that reminds you of the world we live in (no sheikah slate or anything else like that)
>magic not machinery as anon said above
>bring back the OoT lore: 3 goddesses and six sages

>>719103320
It could have if Nintendo didn’t push for a holiday release.

>>719092148 (OP)
Better dungeons, better rewards, maybe an iteration of the durability system for weapons players can ignore mid to late game once they get unbreakable weapons? A better combat system
NO ZELDA MC, FFS

>>719092148 (OP)
good dungeons, less boring padding

>>719103305
When did WW have satisfying combat. That was TotK and TP.

>>719092148 (OP)
This
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxvM1A_uHuI

>>719092148 (OP)
a finished game

I want it to be an actual Zelda game, which we haven't had in well over a fucking decade. Never gonna happen with Aonumale and Fujibayashit desecrating the corpse of this franchise though.

>>719094405
You actual subhuman retarded ape creature. Hyrule Castle is not a fucking dungeon and apart from size its no different from any other outdoor ruins area you can find in the game.

>>719106675
where's my lock and keys?? where's my linearity?

>>719098692
>open world with no loading screens
900 gold skulltulas
Stopped reading right there. Fuck off.

>>719099572
As opposed to getting bored before even finishing Break of the Weapon or Tiktok

>>719092148 (OP)
A real Zelda game

>>719106272
>I want it to be an actual Zelda game
I agree, but they already said they aren't making any more OoT clones so I don't know what you're worried about.

Zelda games from 1998 to 2011:
>Ocarina of Time
>Majora's Mask
>The Wind Waker
>Twilight Princess
>Skyward Sword
Zelda games from 2012 to 2025:
>Breath of the Wild
>Tears of the Kingdom (BoTW but shittier)
What happened? We barely get any games now

>>719107595
jews

>>719092148 (OP)
I want BOTW 3 just to spit at /v/

A hookshot/clawshot.

>>719092513
BoTW 3 wil be announced this year

>>719107595
Almost like because video games take more effort and money to make now compared to the 90s......................................

>>719107882
They take more money and effort but turn out shittier than ever

>>719107924
Nostalgia is a mental illness btw.

I want Link to be able to have sex with the NPCs

I'd like to move away from the advanced ancient technology stuff. Just plain old medieval high fantasy.

Tired of open world shit. Anyway, Zelda is dead to me just like nintendo is.

>>719101483
>$90
That's too optimistic. They charged $70 for a fucking rom hack, mark my words the next Ubislop Zelda WILL be $100 and shit eating tendies WILL buy it!

>>719108128
Link is gay now, he wears womens' clothes

>>719092485
Based. TotK is the ultimate Zelda game.

>>719108128
One more OoToddler rejected.

a 2d game, then back to a 3d game once there's a better engine

>>719108160
Reminder that TotK is so good it's the highest rated game of 2025.

Shit yourself harder lmao

>>719097352
>nintendo
>being weird and creative in 2025
LOL

>>719108249
New Super Zelda Bros.?

>>719092485
>NOOOOOOOOOO STOP IT STOP YOU CAN'T ENJOY VIDEO GAMES ON /V/ YOU MUST HATE EVERYTHING AND BE DEPRESSED AIIEEEEEEEE MODS DO SOMETHING!

>>719108237
call me whatever you want, at least I have a good memory of a good zelda game. you're stuck with the open world trash.

>>719108309
>nintendo being weird and creative in 2025

They literally just released a cripple wheelchair simulator with dual mouse controls.

Say what you want, but Nintendo are still batshit crazy in the best way.

>>719108445
you sound cringe

>>719108438
I'm glad Nintendo went back to making games that are actually about exploration as opposed to the cinematic handholdy trash they started making with OoT.

>>719108534
>OoT didn't have exploration

>>719108534
open world has proved that exploration is a boring game concept.

>>719108438
I've been playing since Zelda 2 released, you OoTrannies are complete faggots who reject everything about the series to circlejerk your hallway cutscene simulator. BotW/TotK is a return to Zelda 1 and you can die made knowing that actual tradition and freedom won out over your story slop.

Mario:
>dead since 2017 (no new 3D game)
Zelda:
>dead since 2017 (ToTK is a ripoff)
Smash:
>dead since 2018 (no new game)
Bros, why are all of Nintendo's franchises dying?

>>719108568
OoT didn't even have a world. Just a series of rooms connected by corridors and a sky box jpeg.

>>719108438
I called you a retarded fanboy because you're a retarded fanboy.

Realistically:
>Iterate on open world scheme
>Instead of continuous wilderness, have a series of "Great Plateaus" featuring dense exploration, macro puzzles, quest storylines etc.
>Hyrule Field, sea, sky, or whatever still exists to connect these regions, acting as an open space to ride Epona/whatever mount, and have large scale conflicts
But if I could get anything I wanted, it'd be my autistic childhood dream-game in which you control Link/Sheik/Ganon simultaneously.

>>719108631
>>719108445
>>719108445
>>719108606
>>719108568

You lost, Eric.

>>719108660
Dude, shut up and go sit down.

>>719108660
>Just a series of rooms connected by corridors and a sky box jpeg
holy based

>>719108779
meant for >>719108445

>>719108631
Mario Odyssey - 97 metacritic rating
BotW - 97 metacritic rating

It just keeps happening.

>>719108628
BoTW is closer to Minecraft and those shitty survival RPGs than to Zelda

>>719108779
>>719108838
>>719108874

You lost and got raped;,; Eric.

>>719092148 (OP)
I want to see Link impregnating Zelda. Fully animated, interactive, uncensored sex scenes.
I could not care about anything else in the series.

>>719108938
Who's that fag

>BotW was originally going to have a hookshot but was removed because it invalidated the slow and tedious climbing mechanic
>EoW was going to make traditional combat permanent but made it a temporary powerup because it invalidated the slow and tedious summon mechanic
>rather than work on improving the slow and tedious thing, just get rid of the fun option and force the slow and tedious thing on us
So what unfun mechanic is Aonuma going to force on us next?

>>719108963
>>719108960

You lost and got raped;,; Eric

>>719092485

BotW is a masterpiece. TotK on the other hand insists on being fucking annoying and time consuming. It's amazing how much of a downgrade it is, in terms of fun.

I'd love BotW mobility with classic formula with Katsuya Terada's art style.

>>719109027
>BotW is a masterpiece.

>>719108568
Correct. The world was actually empty and lifeless and the dungeons were railroaded and simple.

>>719109027
>>719109087

You lost and got raped;,; Eric

An actual Zelda game with proper temples and dungeons.
An actual sountrack.
End the open world meme.

>>719108963
Why do so many retards want the shitty Hookshot back?

They should make it like Dark Souls and give Link a sword and shield and dodge

Why is there so much BoTW fanart with Link being gay with that shark fag?

>>719109116
cope faggot

>>719108606

No it just proves that you're a retard who didn't know what Zelda was about and catering to you with dungeonslop was killing the series.

>>719109116
>an actual Zelda game
>no, not like LoZ, I mean like OoT

Since we suddenly care about metacritic, OoT is sitting there with a 99 which is better than any of the Ubishit Zeldas' scores. But nooooo that doesn't count right? Fucking faggots. You WILL call me Eric, I own you.

>>719109116

You lost and got raped;,; Eric

I want more games like botw and totk, just to spit on /v/ manchildren trannies

>>719109123
fun things are fun

>>719109218
>>719109305
You lost and got raped;,; Eric

it would be cool if the gimmic was a snow world where resources are scarse and link sets out on an adventure to find a rumored non snowy green lands, and on his journey he gets wrapped in the whole rescue zelda thing so now you have to not only find and rescue Zelda, but also find the rumored green land.

that would be cool, it would be like wind waker but with snow instead of ocean.

or even better if hyrule gets overtaken by the desert so the whole game is desert themed like the game sand land.

>>719109214
LoZ had 9 dungeons, tourist.

>>719109178
Because most of nu-Zelda's fanbase are genuine homosexuals and troons.

>>719109089
Botw and Totk is more empty than OoT. And Oot actually had dungeons, faggot.

>>719109116
>This simple ask makes Tendie cultists haywire

>>719109401
>>719109376
>>719109431
>>719109412

You lost and got raped;,; Eric

>>719109218
OoT has like 19 reviews vs the 150 reviews BotW has.

BotW has way more 10/10s than OoT.

>>719109116
this nigga gets it

>>719109484
And yet 99>97 fucking COPE faggot LMAO

>>719109484
quantity =/= quality

>>719108568
Did it? If there's a literal camera pan that shows you all the areas in the field with a companion character who tells you what to do and where to go at all times, what exploration actually exists? Planning your route, figuring out where to do, and finding secrets is non-existent in OoT.

>>719109514
>>719109531
>>719109553

You lost and got raped;,; Eric

Bootw/Totk mindbroke this board forever

>>719109412
>Botw and Totk is more empty than OoT

Kek this is delusional. A single well in TotK has more gameplay, enemy variety, rewards and creativity than the entirety of OoT's Hyrule Field.

Genuine question to any jannies who might see this post, fucking why haven't you made Eric into a filtered word yet?

>>719092148 (OP)
I want the BotW/TotK formula but set in a different land. Some more progression options would be nice, especially magic. Some other miscellaneous changes I would make:

>Link can learn skills a la Runescape. For example, he can level up his cooking to make better dishes (including Hearty dishes so you can't make full heals from the start)
>Weapon durability increased by 3x, with broken weapons being repairable either at a blacksmith or if Link has high enough leveled smithing
>Fishing
>Fuse a couple of shrines together to make mini-dungeons

>>719109575
>f there's a literal camera pan that shows you all the areas in the field
soul

>>719109376
>tourist
I guarantee I've played through LoZ more times than you have. And unlike you who just looks things up about it to shitpost about, I actually like the game.

>>719109629
This nigger is going to pretend that the breathshit games don't have the smallest enemy variety of the whole series lol

>>719109575
>If there's a literal camera pan that shows you all the areas in the field
soulless

>>719109412
Only if you define empty as "not having shitty themed lock and key dungeons" and nothing else.

>>719109629
>Kek this is delusional. A single well in TotK has more gameplay, enemy variety, rewards and creativity than the entirety of OoT's Hyrule Field.
No it doesnt. I played those shitty games. The content is recycled repeatedly. That's what makes it boring. In OoT, I can remember every area cause it was memorable and unique. The switch zeldas have nothing like this. Everything leads to another shrine. The exploration you guys shill is really just a lot of padding with no payoff.

Despite it's "raving reviews" Botw and Totk are one of the least talked about zelda games cause it's so bland.

>>719109848
>I played those shitty games
you clearly didn't

>>719109841
>shitty themed lock and key dungeons
Said dungeons are the most memorable dungeons in gaming history. People can recall them. No one can recall anything from the switch games.

>>719109756
A single bobo in BotW has more behaviors than the entire enemy roster of OoT combined.

>>719109848
>>719109756
>>719109730
least obvious samefag

>>719096203
>"puzzles" are you moving shelves
That would still put BotW/TotK Hyrule Castle leagues ahead of the "puzzles" in OoT-formula dungeons. There are only a handful of good puzzles split between OoT, MM, WW, TP, and SS.

>>719109937
and yet is the most boring enemy ever

>>719109739
Yet your "clever" retort that implies BoTW is closer to the original LoZ than OoT because of an open world aspect while ignoring the fact that LoZ had actual dungeons and a memorable soundtrack, both things which BotW doesn't have.
So yeah, a tourist or an illiterate retard. Your choice.

>>719099914
Uh, ya? That's okay. A game doesn't need to be able to put 500 hours into it or replay it 5 times to be a good game. That's a bad metric.

People who thought Zelda's greatest strength was exploring some greenery until you fall down a hole and find a chest with 5 rupees in it and NOT its dungeons and Metroidvania-esque design are fucking retards. This series really is fucking doomed.

>>719110008
Loz dungeons were basically either clean the room or move a block, so yeah you're retarded

>>719092148 (OP)
Sword and shield combat with no fucking modern or futuristic technology

>>719109848
>Botw and Totk are one of the least talked about zelda games cause it's so bland.

Holy fucking lma0o

>>719109973
>>719110008

see >>719109946

>>719109848
All I hear is "my name is Eric and I always get raped by my dad"

>>719110093
>with no fucking modern or futuristic technology

Yeah I really hated the robots, UFOs, telephones and trains from the previous Zelda games.

>>719110138
based

Nintendo not going third party like expected really mindbroke /v/troons 24/7 huh?

>>719109721
>filename
>>719109619
I really don't get it.

>>719108438
>It's trash because it's open world
Not how that works.

not fucking openworld slop

>>719100631
>Umm, ACKSHUALLY, the original Zelda game was EXACTLY like modern open world survival with crafting ubislop!

More open world kino

>>719110183
If Nintendo went 3rd party you could actually buy that shitty new Mario Kart for a nice sale on Steam, so yeah good timeline missed.

>>719110083
>>719110274
>>719110304
>>719110343
>719110363

see >>719110138

>>719092513
Nu-Zelda is basically the only "nu" thing that is objectively good. At some point, not liking BotW and TotK is you being soulless.

I really do like the combination of items gimmick from TotK. Maybe just a minor gimmick in the next game but I do like to see it appear in some form.

>>719110363
>actually seething
holy jej

>>719110094
journalists are the least trusted people in modern era.

I just want a Zelda game that isn't trans coded.

>>719109629
It's hilarious how the only reason OoT's Hyrule Field was made big and empty was so Epona wouldn't be worthless.

>>719109935
>Said dungeons are the most memorable dungeons in gaming history
If you were 8 when OoT came out and didn't play non-Nintendo games, sure. The Water Temple is a great litmus test. If you think it was hard and complicated, you're and idiot OoToddler. If you think it was tedious and boring, you actually play video games.

>>719092148 (OP)
An actual Zelda game would be nice

Shitposting aside, would love to see some actual deep combat mechanics in place. BOTW and TOTK had fun exploring but very boring combat. Spin to win is so lame and repetitive.

>>719110363
>>719110429
>>719110461
>>719110495

see >>719110138

>>719110284
That's always how it works.

>>719110414
nu zelda is one of the worst zeldas imaginable. she is clearly fitting for the reddit audience with her blandness and "independent minded" shit she was made around. no wonder she appeals to modern retards

>>719109412
BotW and TotK have more density of content than OoT's Hyrule Field despite being several times the size. There's always something to do every minute or so from the last bit of content. Horses to tame, shrines to conquer, minibosses to fight, resources to gather, enemies that drop valuable weapons, and terrain features like mountains, rivers, gorges, and etc to navigate past.

>>719109973
No, that would be literally any OoT "boss".

>>719110472
I said memorable, speedreader.

>>719110526
>>719110567

Wrong, Eric the pedophile.

>>719110545
>BotW and TotK have more density of content
Botw and Totk has no content. It's just an environment simulator.

It's going to be another botw and I'll enjoy all the seethe from this place while I have fun on my switch 2

>>719092909
Neither should humans, but you exist. OwO

>>719110090
>moving the goalpost
You don't understand what made Zelda games so endearing. Dungeons tell a story that blends all the world together, they were carefully crafted to fit with the setting of the area that they were in. Only so much detail could be added into an 8 bit game, but with time, these dungeons became more detailed, more unique, with an actual story to tell.
You can't compare that to the generic design of BotW fisher price style physics challenges.

BotW and TotK are very impressive open world and physics tech demos that use Zelda as a skinsuit.

>>719109376
And those dungeons were practically just combat gauntlets that rewarded you with an item and a boss fight at the end.

>>719110008
Any time someone gets mad at LoZ-BotW comparisons and talks about the number of dungeons in LoZ ignoring that they were the weakest part of LoZ, it's clear they don't actually play it and only bring up things they read about it online for shitposting purposes to pretend to be oldfags.

>>719110607

see >>719110138

>>719110669
cope

>>719092148 (OP)
Give me Ocarina of Time 3. I want normal dungeons, I want cool items, I want Hyrule field, I want secrets and sidequests that reward me with heart pieces, I want a sexy or cute companion, I want a proper adventure, I want a proper Zelda game damnit

>>719110669
>>719110741
see >>719110138

>>719110672
>they were the weakest part of LoZ,
what makes you say/believe that?

>>719110567
I remember it was fucking boring.

>>719110741
Also want cool and quirky npcs, nice little compact secrets, and level design.

>>719110425
>can't refute me
jej

>>719110779
>>719110802
>>719110827

see >>719110138

>>719110827
>still
top jej

>>719110414
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FuX5_OWObA0

>>719110789
But you do remember it.

>>719110665
Proof that I’m human?

>>719110779
>what makes you say/believe that?
I'm older than you and actually played LoZ multiple times as opposed to running through it once with a guide like you did years after playing OoT.

>>719110865

see >>719110138

Looks like Devin found the thread

>>719110865
I remember it was dogshit compared to Constantines Mansion, which was a dungeon from a much better game that came out at the same time.

>>719110872
Say the word that would get you instabanned by mods back in 2005, tourist.

>>719110950
You sound upset ;)

>>719110957
At least you can remember a dungeon from OoT. Can't remember even one from the switch games. Oh wait, they don't exist.

>>719092148 (OP)
Make it an open world souls-like.

Enjoy your 20m copies sales Nintendo no need to thank me.

>>719092485
The way to top it is to go back to the original formula: Big sprawling labyrinths that are hour-long grinds to get through. Gate progress by having specific tools with obtuse control interfaces and single, blatant, use cases. Have very few to no NPCs and no supporting cast that shows up to upstage Link. And remove all references to Ganondorf.

>>719111031
see >>719110138

>>719110416
I loved Fuse. Fucking around with a shit ton of different items with unique properties was great.

>Eric
>Devin
Who?

Currently replaying TOTK on my switch 2, I want more of this kind in the next game.

https://strawpoll.com/NPgxeaPJAZ2

Let's settle this

>using strawpoll
keek keeekkkk

>>719110672
Zelda 1 had more screens dedicated to dungeons than its overworld. They were also way more fun than burning a bush, walking off the screen, walking back to the previous screen, burning the next bush, walking off screen, repeat ad infinitum. People who pretend Zelda's exploration was EVER better than its dungeons all need to be ground into a human goo used for lubricating train parts.

>>719111183
>>719111216
You sound upset, Eric ;)

>>719092148 (OP)
Wind Waker sequel in BotW style (just for hot Tetra) with TotK building used for building boats

>>719111183
What did Xe/Xi/Xo/Xum mean by this?

>>719111031
I remember every Divine Beast, the DLC dungeon, and Hyrule Castle. Now make your next feigned wit shitpost.

>>719111293
see >>719110138

>>719111284
Neither of those are dungeons.

>>719111091
Don't play dumb, Michael

>>719111410
Shut up, Chris

>>719111216
You've never played LoZ, nor do you know why people at the time liked it so much. You read stats about it in a vacuum online and pretend to be knowledgeable about it.

>>719111406
>IT DOESN'T COUNT
I accept your trooncession, Eric.

>>719111125
/v/...

make Twilight Princess open world and we're back bitches

>>719092513
>>719110526
OoT slop wasn't true zelda to begin with
and was railroaded and moviegame-like for retards.

>>719092148 (OP)
It'd be pretty cool if I could just get BotW with good dungeons, none of the powers and no durability.

>>719111457
nvm let me grab a vpn

>>719111447
>refuses to answer the oldfag litmus test while claiming seniority to validate his retarded opinions
top zozzle.

>>719106970
you missed what the gold spiders do this time around, your loss

>>719111447
I have played it, thats how I know its dungeons are the best part of it. Nintendo agrees with me because the overworld wasn't even originally planned lmao. Burning bushes with a candle that needs a screen transition to "reload" is not exploration, its just trial and error.

>>719111494
OoT won, faggot.

>>719111691
>>719111706

see >>719110138

>>719111546
What fake litmus test do you think you posed? Shitposting about a game you clearly haven't played and don't care about isn't a litmus test.

>>719111447
How much is left of LoZ1 to like when you say "no actually all the dungeons sucked" lol

>>719111551
Oh is it a giant golden spider turd??

>>719111457
>Eric getting anally dilated
kek

>>719109123
Hook shot is fun, but the glider needs to go.

Why do they give Link womens' clothes in BoTW? He's supposed to be manly

>>719111770
Oh why having to decipher the schizo bullshit the npcs say, of course!

>>719111861
see >>719110138

>>719111861
cause it's le funny. just like putting mario in a dress. in reality it's to appease Blackrock.

>>719111691
>I have played it, thats how I know its dungeons are the best part of it.
Wrong.
>Nintendo agrees with me because the overworld wasn't even originally planned lmao.
>Nintendo agrees with me because they knew their original idea sucked and changed it to be something actually good
There's also the fact that every interview from the time talks about exploring the world, and LttP interviews specifically talk about environmental interactions they wanted to add, but you go ahead and pretend they never cared about that till BotW marketing started.

>>719111861
Look at modern Nintendo's audience, they know them all too well.

>>719110779
Dungeon 6 and 9 are really the only interesting dungeons in LoZ because of its high difficulty (or the later case, how easy it is to get lost on a first playthrough). They are all combat gauntlets that don't really stand out that much, and there's a reason no one talks about the SQ.

>>719111970
Eric, you worship the tranny platform steam.

>>719111970
correct answer

>>719111706
>OoT won
>Fake zelda fags are stilll seething over Botw
you sure about that?

Elden Ring + BoTW hybrid with Midna as your companion

>>719111861
>Link
>Manly
dude's been wearing a skirt since like 1986. he wasn't even aware pants were a thing until Twilight princess.

>>719111753
>can't post the word that would get you banned from 4chan back in 2005 while saying "I'm old so my opinion is law"
What a faggy poser lmao
Keep up with your "BotW is a return to form™ from LoZ" though. It's hilarious you actually think this.

>>719111770
Most of the game time was spent in the overworld exploring. The dungeons were fine, but they were just simple combat gauntlets and not the highlight of the game.

>>719112006
If you didn't have dungeons to do the overworld would cease to be interesting.

>>719112041
Why would I seethe over a game I purged from my mind?

>>719112027
>>719112060
>>719112110

Why are you sametrannying?

>>719092148 (OP)
I just want more tight adventures with strong story beats and memorable characters featuring varied gameplay based on problem solving instead of their new "entertaining gameplay, do what you want lol" philosophy of BotW/TotK, which are fun games of course but I barely remember anything from them except for mushroom collecting and that hot chick in glasses that you never see again after the start of TotK. It's like Nintendo is trying to make every game a Minecraft. Whatever happened to proper adventure games that made you care about what's happening? They were so good, and I would gladly play 10 more of them instead of 10 more BotWs where you climb cliffs and collect useless koroks and mushrooms so you could collect even more of them on the next cliff.

>>719111968
Hey funny you mention ALttP because it improved on literally every single last aspect of Zelda 1, rather than just appeal to sone vague notions of "freedom" like BotW.
>but muh heckin art of Link looking off at the mountains
You fell for gaslighting from Aonuma, a guy who has played a whopping half hour of Zelda 1 in his lifetime lol.

>>719111052
>that are hour-long grinds
Oh great, more cutscenes every five seconds and block pushing.

>>719112110
>>719112148
>>719112157
see

>>719111457
not looking good, Eric!

>>719098692
Not bad, as long as there's proper dungeons this would be pretty ideal.

>>719112069
maybe for you I guess but when I first played it the simple combat gauntlets were challenging enough to heavily weight my time towards dungeons than the overworld, which is pretty simplistic outside the lost woods and the process of finding dungeons.

>>719112148
all that required effort, and Nintendo is a zombie company being run on pension funds so they dont have to try to make good games anymore.

>>719112017
Quite, Sean

>>719092148 (OP)
I wanna get out of Hyrule again. We're getting more BoTW style zelda like it or not, so give me a different land. Maybe some classic dungeons, even if only 4 of them, though I don't see how they'll pull that off if they decide to make it completely open world again.

>>719112231
>>719112236
>>719112238
see >>719111457
not looking good, Eric!

>>719112148
Nintendo is run by jews so they won't

>>719092148 (OP)
I want more breath of the wild, I want more cope and seethe from nostalgic manchildren here.

>>719112301
>>719112236

Eric, samefagging won't save you.

>>719112148
I'm with you, the best part of ToTK was the spelunking for me. Barely gave a shit about the vehicles after a short while, even with autobuild.

>>719112301
this

>>719111819
Hookshot is boring and needs to say dead. It was great and only good in LttP. If they want to bring a similar item back, it would need to be a physics based grappling hook.

>>719112413
see >>719112380

>>719112060
You stink of reddit OoToddler immigrant.

>>719112072
What? Removing the dungeons from the map doesn't change the overworld.

>>719112415
The hookshot is fucking cool.

>>719112415
>Hookshot is boring
No it isnt. One of the coolest items ever to the point they gave you two in TP and Skyward Sword.

>>719092148 (OP)
Big, new original world. No game-changing gimmicks. You can access the first dungeon within 10 minutes if you're not a drooling retard, no expository fucking around for a good half-hour. You get an item and every new item you get you can access more of the world map, or reach new hidden areas, or get to existing spots faster. About ten dungeons, with all of them being memorable and unique soundtracks for each one. Shake things up by having Ganon be the decoy villain and not the TRUE final boss.

>>719112526
>>719112530
Eric, replying the same thing like that makes you VERY obvious.

>>719112474
Said the retard who is literally unable to pass a very simple litmus test that any oldfag would know while using age as his main reason to say he's right.
Extreme projection, it's just too funny.

>>719112148
>just want more tight adventures with strong story beats and memorable characters featuring varied gameplay based on problem solving
Okay, so just play BotW.

>>719112514
Yeah it does, because the overworld is propped up on interacting with the dungeons. You will wander around to do nothing without the dungeons. All progression is tied to them. It's just a map with no objective otherwise.

>>719112582
>>719112670

Then you post
>I accept your tronnycession
But replace the o in tronny with an a ;)

I want them to use the same map again and charge tendies even more.

>>719112576
Who the fuck is Eric and why are you having a schizo melty over him

>>719112157
>Hey funny you mention ALttP
How so? Let's take a look at what they cared about back then
https://shmuplations.com/zeldalttp/
Looks like exploration and environmental interactions were always what they focused on and wanted to do more of.

>>719112707
are you okay retard

>>719112670
>>719112712
>>719112713
Eric, you lost.

>>719092148 (OP)
More of the same but not open world, make it into distinct zones you progress through. Also add more ways of character progression like talent systems and items that give permanent buffs

>>719112235
>dungeons
Well that's because you played it once using a guide so you never bothered to explore, but no amount of looking things up could make you die to wizrobes less.

>>719112712
kek based accelerator

>>719112530
Clawshot was a huge downgrade. OoT Hookshot was fun as fuck, but after that they started limiting what you could hook too way too much.

>>719092148 (OP)
More of the same but with an even bigger open world.

>>719112774
>>719112804
>>719112848

>obvious ESL lack of comma
SAAAAAAR

>>719112707
Not the same guy, retard.
You're so mindbroken about people laughing at your hilariously retarded "I'm old so I'm right!" angle that you're creating boogeymen instead of answering a very simple question that would actually validate your oldfag status.
Yet you are unable to, because you're a tourist.

>>719112582
Sorry, but the fake oldfag posteuring isn't fooling anyone. Try looking some more stuff up on knowyourmeme.

>>719112670
?
You can remove the dungeons but the map is literally the exact same. Finding the dungeons is the most fun part of LoZ, not going through the dungeons.

>>719112774
>>719112908
>>719112925
Least obvious samefag.
Do it, tranny coward pedophile

>>719112851
I did dislike how more limited TP was. In OOT, it felt like you could hook to practically anything that looked hookable. OoT devs really thought of everything with that game.

>>719092148 (OP)
Keep the open world, axe the "open story" bullshit. go back to 8 temples that you are intended to tackle in a certain order, none of that "wander around wherever you want and see the story scenes in a random order" bullshit.

>>719112925
If you could find this so easily, you would already posted it because it's you who is getting butthurt about not having your seniority recognized. That's why it's a litmus test, you illiterate retard.

>>719112530
Imagine pretending the double claw in TP isn't the most boring fucking tool ever put into a Zelda game.

>>719113047
do this first >>719112707

>>719112989
Keep the open world, keep the "open story" bullshit. keep the 4 dungeons that you are intended to tackle in any order, more of that "wander around wherever you want and see the story scenes in a random order" kino.

>>719112526
It controls like shit and it's incredibly boring to use escpailly when it functions like a key and not an actual item. What's cool about it?

>>719112928
It wouldn't be very interesting if there was nothing to go through
>>719112824
I didn't use a guide, I played it for the first time when I was like 8 or 9 when my brother's friend was replaying it at a party
He gave me a few tips from his memory but I spent the rest of the weekend doing it on my own, I easily spent way more time in the last 3 dungeons alone than the overworld because I wasn't very good at the combat

>>719112415
>literally the coolest thing ever
>"this fucking sucks actually"

>>719113071
I liked it

>>719113152
see >>719113097

>>719113138
The entire idea of pointing an advanced grapple hook that ziplines you to something is just cool. There's nothing deep about it.

>>719092148 (OP)
I want proper dungeons
At least 8 of them

>>719113047
Again, you're not fooling anyone. You're not old enough to have played any 2D Zelda before OoT at launch, and you weren't here before 2011. No one cares about a fake oldfag test you read somewhere.

>>719113097
>le epic snarky retort
Imagine calling yourself an oldfag and then getting butthurt because someone else asks you to prove that you're an oldfag.
Too funny.

>>719113213
So, it's cool because it controls like shit and functionally boring to use.

>>719113163
>>719113179
>>719113213
>>719113230
>>719113241
samefag.

>>719112713
It's just Devin. He does this shit whenever you do anything less than suck Ubizelda's dick until its durability wears put. Randy and Peter can vouch for me, just ask them.

>>719113179
SPIDER PAN

>>719112908
>You're so mindbroken about people laughing at your hilariously retarded "I'm old so I'm right!"
It's just you getting mad that you can't pretend to be an oldfag having grown up on OoT.

>>719113261
>>719113241
Eric, replying the same cope like this makes your sametrannying even more obvious.
Now do it.

>>719113241
>can't answer a very simple question any oldfag would be able to answer
>creates imaginary scenarios in his head
It was funny how you were so butthurt about not having your seniority validated. Now it's just sad.

>>719113274
sure
>>719113316
That's some Kyle shit I'm not gonna lie.

>>719113316
>>719113363
Eric, do what I told you first ;)

Why did they never do another dark Zelda game after Twilight Princess?

>>719113363
>can't answer a very simple question any oldfag would be able to answer
And which question is that? Show me where I dodged a question you asked.

>>719113152
>f there was nothing to go through
Not really. Caves are a single screen and they are still great to find.

>>719113449
cause nintendo went straight family friendly and straight gimli minded.

>>719113451
Just say the word that would get you instabanned by mods back in 2005.
It's pretty simple.

>>719113418
>>719113502
see >>719113428

>>719092148 (OP)
I would really like to get an actual Zelda game instead of what we've gotten for the last decade.

I don't understand how people defend a hundred caves and wells in TotK as good content. You go in, you shoot the blue thing, and you loot something irrelevant to upgrade something you'll never use. You know what else has this design? Nu-Assassin's Creed. You find endless chests in the city that reward you with upgrade materials for items you will never upgrade. This shit is BORING.

Zelda is so gay kek
Imagine being a gay elf going around screaming "AAAAAAAHHHHH YAAAAAAAHHHHH!" Kek what a bitch

>>719113526
>>719113549
>>719113554
Do what I said first, why should I do anything for you?

>>719113479
most caves are not great to find frankly which is a little bit of the problem with the overworld past dungeons, most of the secrets are fairly useless even for a game where rupees are useful

>>719113526
First off, no one has cared about getting around wordfilters since weaboo and candyass. Second off, you didn't ask that. Do you not know English? I know this site has a lot of new ESL shitposters.

>>719113609
>>719113554
>>719113549

Eric, you are a pedophile

>>719113549
True
90s+2000s = GOD era
2010s+2020s = Brown tranny era

>>719113554
Nintrannies have never played the last 20 years of open world games because their system of choice was always too dogshit to run them until the Switch era. This type of game is still new and novel to them.

>>719113701
>>719113714

>Brown tranny era
but enough about yourself, Eric.

snoyjeet trannies are mentally ill

>>719102286
Kek, awful bait

>>719113772
99% of BoTW fans are gay and trans
Fact checked by snopes

>>719113636
Never was disappointed with any of the caves as they are always useful, and the ones that straight up steal your money are funny to come across.

>>719113904
>>719113905
see >>719113772

I hope they make them dark like Ocarina of Time again.

>>719113672
As a reply using your age as the reason why you're correct:
>>719110967
Learn to read, retard.
And no, it wasn't a simple word filter (which is why you posted word filters that you can find in knowyourmeme, more hilarious projection).
It was an entire meme and the objective was to be the first one to spam it to be the first one banned in the day.
Imagine being a newfag being so butthurt about not being recognized as an oldfag. It's so sad.

>EVERYONE I DISAGREE WITH IS A SINGLE SCHIZO!!!
I'm afraid there may be more more than one schizo in this thread.

>>719114012
>>719114042
>>719114050

see >>719113772

>>719114008
All of the posts you reply to are made less than a minute apart from each other, you're the samefag

>>719114117
Eric, literally nobody has ever fallen for your phone.
The fact you still try just proves it's you.

>>719092148 (OP)
make totk, but good
>depth that are actually terrifying, have to plan out your dives, run away from enemies
>islands that are actually interesting
>a surface world that has actually changed

>>719111410
I’m not, Steve.
>>719111441
You too, Benjamin.

>>719114273
shut up zelda

>>719114228
totk but good would be not making it in the first place

>>719114331
>>719114228
see >>719114170

Going as far away from the diarrhea that was BotW and BotW 2 as possible. As a long time Zelda veteran it was almost unbearably embarrassing to see Zelda francise assraped by BG3 and Elden Ring.

>>719114432
john, take a shower

Seriously why is Owen allowed to shit up EVERY FUCKING ZELDA THREAD?

>>719114490
Elden Ring basically destroyed every action rpg out there.

>>719092148 (OP)
>greater enemy variety
>more classic zelda tools like the hookshot
>large, interconnected dungeons that are actually part of the overworld like hyrule castle
>NO SHRINES
>greater focus on water areas especially underwater
>no british slag zelda
>scale back or just remove the nuts and bolts shit as it's far too easy to break the game
>more dynamic NPC AI
>A story that doesn't revolve around ganon or malice for a change

>>719092148 (OP)
make OoT again

>>719114571
Martin deflecting all the blame as usual

>>719114490
>>719114493
>>719114571
>>719114586
>>719114650
>719114659
total Eric meltdown, kek

>>719092148 (OP)
Actual temples and level design

>>719092148 (OP)
dont care if they stick with the botw/totk format for the open world, i just wanted harder dungeons and puzzles

>>719114727
see >>719114704

There sure are a lot of pajeets shitting all over this thread

>>719114490
For me I'll never get tired of seeing the look on Aonuma's face as his $70 romhack lost to a zoophillia simulator and a guy wearing fucking plate armor walked past him to get his award. That's a mogging that'll stay with that absolute fucking hack for the rest of his life.

>>719114042
When did that happen in our linear reply chain?

>>719114812
the same pajeet that made pic related threads

>>719114812
You can tell exact moment too.

An actual Zelda game would be nice

>>719114849

Eric, that snoytranny cope is just pathetic.

>>719092148 (OP)
Just take the "sage spirit" system, expand the shit out of it (mechanics, AI, controls, etc, maybe even making them playable)

...and just have the next game be a party based RPG, because the cast has also typically be a big point in favor of Zelda.

Yes LINK gets all of his gears and skills by the tutorial... but his party members unlock new skills only over tune. Many of them have to work in combination with Link's skills to get things done.

If it is still a direct followup of TotK story wise: some event forces Zelda, Link and Company to escape hyrule and find refuge in some other country (make it an archipelago with one big main island so it's kinda like a Wind Waker 2 and you can attach shit to your main ship to upgrade it that way, party initially capsizes and is spread out across all the different islands), then in the end game you return to hyrule, deal with the big bad and in the post game a hyrule map (without over or underworld) is available too with some new quests, but the meat of the game is on the new map.

I.e. have the new big bad be Rauru's brother, that awakened with his entourage from some cryo sleep after Rauru's soul passed on and thereby "officially died for real this time". Guy is super racist against humans, sees them as lesser and now claims the crown for himself. Then after defeating him a number of his entourage (one probably also turned coat over the story and joined the party) swear fealty to Zelda and the Zonai are now officially a new race in Hyrule permanently settled. Zelda is officially crowned queen after this, ending it as a trilogy... said Zonai big bad just coincidentally be called Vaati or something.

>>719114849
That greedy gook really expected his dlc to win.
I’ve never played BG3 but I’m glad it blew him the fuck out.

>>719114954
Who should Link's allies be?

>>719114930
>>719114935
>>719115015
sametrannying won't save you
see >>719111457
not looking good, Eric!

>>719114870
Lmao
You’re in this topic too?
Mentally ill faggot.

>>719114954
>Just take the "sage spirit" system, expand the shit out of it (mechanics, AI, controls, etc, maybe even making them playable)
>...and just have the next game be a party based RPG, because the cast has also typically be a big point in favor of Zelda.
Dragon's Dogma?

I want Link to marry Zelda

>>719112110
>>719111706
>TRUE ZELDA DOESN'T HAVE OPEN WORLD
Hyrule Field
>BUT THE KOROKS
Skulltulas
>SHRINES
Grottos
>BREAKABLE WEAPONS
Pic rel

What Zelda has the best OST? I'd say either ALttP, OoT and WW

I want young link to get his insides rearranged by a like like

>>719116775
Out of all of those games, WW easily. LttP has a great OST but it's like 5 tracks at most. OoT is very boring outside of Gerudo Valley.

>>719116775
Music is something I never cared too much for with Zelda but it's surely ALTTP, so many memorable tunes that they use in the games to this day

>>719092148 (OP)
I want it to deploy a mind-killer virus that reduces you and every bot/spammer in this engagement farming thread to vegetables.

>>719116615
now show the dungeons

>>719116856
>WW easily
fuck no

>>719116856
I like Song of Storms and that song that plays when Link grabs the Master Sword

>>719117018
They're okay, major problem is they don't really stand out.

>>719117281
WDYM by they don't stand out? They're popular with Zelda fans

>>719117856
It's boring and doesn't stand out in my mind. Gerudo Valley does and it's by far the most ironic track on the OST as a result.

>>719118084
That's just your mind though

>>719116856
OOT Forest Temple is one of the best tracks of the whole franchise

Is there a worse dissapointment than Link's Awakening 3D?

>>719118537
It's funny because of the meme. The actual song is just dogshit.

>>719093082
Building vehicles is the only part of the game that's remembered

>>719118726
I love the song, I don't care about memes.

>>719116837
Why would you want to do that to a little kid?

>>719118794
By retards who didn't play the game? Sure.

>>719116775
Skyward Sword is kinda eh but it has a great title theme

>>719092148 (OP)
-i'm fucking sick of open world games, so i want it to go back to being more linear
-i'm fucking sick of hyrule. It needs to be set somewhere new.

I love Kass!
>>719092148 (OP)
Yoshiaki Koizumi directing.

>>719119031
Ganondorf did nothing wrong by wanting to destroy Hyrule
Honestly i'd like a Zelda game set in a post-apocalyptic land after Ganon wins

>>719119042
He's married.

>>719119042
>Yoshiaki Koizumi directing.
You want a buggy and broken games with shit level design and obnoxiously long opening prologues?

>>719103823
>3 goddesses that Link can have sex with

>>719092148 (OP)
Let me go back underwater ffs

>>719092307
Also let me fuck a duck

>>719119164
To me, I know. I love Kass!
>>719119252
Name one Koizumi game you're describing.

>>719116615
Holy fuck you are a disingenuous faggot.

>>719119365
They haven't brought back the iron boots?

>>719119438
>you're describing.
Sunshine, obviously.

>>719092148 (OP)
No more weapon breaking, good and plentiful actual dungeons, actual music, a fucking story, and a game good enough I will want to play it again after I finished it the first time.

>>719092148 (OP)
A Nortubel crossover

>>719107595
Only OoT and MM were good, the rest were shit. The amount of games made in a time period doesn't matter if the games just aren't good.

>>719119583
Okay, fair point, but that level of experimentation is more fitting for Zelda than Mario. He's also able to tell more interesting stories that way.

>>719119615
Whats that

>>719119614
Why do retards think BotW had no story but something like OoT did where the entire "story" is
>this guy fucked things up so you need to collect the 6 macguffins from the dungeons to stop him

>>719119730
MM and TP were good, SS was shit
Still better than getting 2 BoTW games after the first one wasn't that great

>>719119848
And yet OoT's story is ten times better than Botw.

>>719119730
based honest take

The next one needs a different hyrule for sure. Caves were good and should stay, making them connect to bigger underground areas but not one big level like the depths. Kill shrines. Don’t care for sky islands. Make actual narratives that don’t rely on handwaving. Make combat have an actual use exp and level system :) . Totk dungeons were definitely better than bots dungeons but they could still be improved. Anything else?

Im still astounded that I said that Totk was going to be a rehash and recycling of Botw content, and defenders kept telling me that Nintendo is giving them an entirely new game. And then we get Totk and find out I was absolutely right. They'll never live it down.

>>719120105
Dungeons need to be Dark Souls-tier, they're very easy now

>>719119765
>He's also able to tell more interesting stories that way.
When he's not pushing his male feminist propaganda in games, maybe.

>>719120208
Since when is he a male feminist?

>>719120036
It's not. Not at all. You just have nostalgia from when you were a kid and had only played 5 or 10 games.

>>719120360
>. You just have nostalgia
yawn boring. Ive had people who werent born when I was and they still enjoy the game.

>>719120289
When he's pushing for more female representation in Mario.

>>719120471
Can you try that again in English?

>>719120515
He pushed for Pauline and Peach rejecting Mario?

>>719092148 (OP)
Weapons that don't break after smacking something with them 3 times
Real Dungeons
Music that isn't pling plang plongs separated by 3 minutes of silence
Progression that isn't just how many inventory slots and hearts you have

>>719120036
>>719120082
>>719120167
>>719120471
>>719120515

Eric, sametrannying won't save you.
and everybody knows you haven't, Eric.

>>719119848
BotW had a story that took place in the past, same thing with TotK. All of the interesting shit happened before you even play the game. It was the perfect vehicle for a non linear open world game, which is why everything is so fucking shallow when you look at it after the fact.

>>719120567
>>719120639

Eric, sametrannying won't save you.

>>719116960
Are you implying Babyfied OoT zelda has better dungeons than OG?
I don't have the webm of WW's final dungeon tutorial so look for it

>>719120685
OoT has the best dungeons in the entire Zelda series.

>>719119848
Things actually happened in OOT. It had the basic structure for some form of narrative in place. Fuck all happened in BOTW until it ended.

>>719120557
No, he told the 3D Mario team to add Peach to 3D World to literally push "m-muh female representation". They talk about it in interviews.

I think now would be a good time to expand on the Great Ocean, Wind Waker managed to fudge a sense of exploration but imagine if it really was an endless ocean with boundless isles to discover and explore

>>719120749
So it was originally going to include 2 toads like in NSMB?

>>719120739
I love OoT but this isn't true. They are damn good but the dungeons in Majora's Mask were the peak of the old formula. Twilight Princess had some good ones too.

>>719120739
>>719120747
>>719120749
You lost, Eric the pedophile

>>719120872
MM's dungeons were way too busy, which makes sense considering the context of the time mechanic and only having 4 of them. However, I think they have some of the best sub-dungeons (the stuff before the main dungeons).

TP's dungeons were too structured compared to OoT. It felt more like a cinematic experience like it was leading you through it on a scripted path. You never felt like you beat a dungeon on your own merit.

>>719121015
>way too busy
with what?

Why don't they call it the Legend of Link?

>>719120808
Who knows.
https://www.polygon.com/2013/6/12/4421244/nintendo-thinking-on-a-different-frequency-with-playable-princess/
Meanwhile based Miyamoto liked being in the game so he can see her sexy suit.

>>719121098
too many enemies and shit, it gets too confusing.

>>719119365
qrd on these cosplay conventions? I've always wanted to go to one but I'm 34 and I think it's a bit cringe to go at my age..

>>719121216
I can maybe see it as an argument for everything but Snowhead, which is an insanely well designed dungeoned. I think Stone Tower is amazing though. Swamp is mid, Ocean is a mixed bag but I liked Zora swimming on the N64.

>>719121258
As long as you look good, nobody will give you weird looks

>>719121186
Couldn't have he just said something along the lines of "we just thought it would be cool to add her" or say that she was playable in SMB2

>>719120639
>BotW had a story that took place in the past
This isn't inherently a bad thing for storytelling and only would be in the context of Zelda if the previous games had more involved stories that you had control over. Painting it as a negative is pathetic shitposting from N64babies who feel the need to shit on it no matter what.
>It was the perfect vehicle for a non linear open world game
You still have plenty of sidequests and side characters with stories that occur in the present, and the NPCs having cycles and behaviors helps make the world feel alive. BotW/TotK also have 1 of 2 Zeldas with an actual personality. Any replies from angry N64babies insisting that doesn't actually matter and it's bad because they say it's bad and it's not like the game they grew up on will be ignored because they are the eternal niggers of the Zelda fanbase.

>>719120739
"No"

>>719121015
>MM's dungeons were way too busy,
Stone Tower is the only good dungeon from an OoT style game.

>>719121918
>forest temple

soul

>>719121717
He's just a tard who can't even beat the first level of SMB. Your average typically movielover.

>>719121990
>the puzzles suck, the combat is bad, the layout is simple and railroaded and the bosses are a gimmick joke
>but it's just soul

>>719121186
WTF, Japan has soiboys too?

>>719121186
>>719121990
>>719122005
>>719122109
Eric, your snoytranny cope flopped and you got raped.

>>719092148 (OP)
They really need to figure 'something' out, because the stories and cutscenes in Breath/Tears have been fucking atrocious.

forgive me for what i'm about to say for it shall be the truth.

totk ue5 remake for $80

>>719122167
See >>719122150

>>719122047
The music is kino though

>>719122167
The cutscenes are well directed and the VA's do a great job. Not close to atrocious.

>>719122236
>>719122167

Eric, your pedophile cope flopped.

They should being back the different tunics

Bump

>>719122282
>the VA's do a great job

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mO1QBTG6EXs
Add this kino music

>>719122282
>"Demon King? Secret Stone?"
>"Secret Stone? Demon King?"

>>719122404
You got raped, Eric ;)

Link should've fucked that green shark-like chick from BoTW

>>719122404
Absolutely.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-zJoodY5Cs

>>719122282
Absolutely not. They're Mario Sunshine level.
>>719122331
I'm not some living strawman, anon. I liked some aspects of the games and hated others.

Link = GOD tier
Tingle = SHIT tier

>>719122608
I accept your tronnycession, Eric

WHERE'S MY TWILIGHT PRINCESS SEQUEL?

>>719122807
Errrrrrm, that's a yikes and an oof from me.

Remember Ben Drowned?

>>719122047
soul

>>719121840
>This isn't inherently a bad thing for storytelling
no it is. every game that tries it fails miserably because it actually just sucks as a concept. FFXIII did it and sucked, BotW did it and sucked. stories should play out over the course of the game, nobody wants to spend the whole game "remembering" the story.
The only way the concept could work is if the game was a detective story to begin with and you were uncovering what happened in a case.

>>719122953
You sound upset ;)
And totally. Organic how this thread died the moment it hit bump limit

So who are Link's parents

how can you say botw/totk are bad games? they were two of the best selling games this gen

Huh what happened

>>719123179
>it's bad because it's bad
Nope. It would only be bad if some form of interaction with the story was lost because of it, but that doesn't apply to Zelda games. Saying it's bad because of an inherent quality that doesn't make something bad is a paper thin excuse for just wanting to shit on it and needing some pretend justification.
>stories should play out over the course of the game
As opposed to Zelda games where you get a quick premise, get told to gather the macguffins, and then fight the last boss?

>>719123897
>As opposed to Zelda games where you get a quick premise, get told to gather the macguffins, and then fight the last boss?
Is it really that different from BoTW, except this one has an open world

Bomp

>>719124183
?

>>719124073
>Is it really that different from BoTW,
You find the memories which give characterization and context to characters that have actual personalities, as well as do the major cities where you talk to the champions, so yes. There's far more actual storytelling than other Zelda games. MM is the only one that does anything with its sidequests, and even then BotW and TotK have tons of sidequests and characters. SS has a little bit of a plot and TP has Midna, but those are still extremely sparse.

So are they going to keep making games set on the BoTW for the forseeable future?

>>719124246
!

>>719124309
!?

>>719124374
?!

>>719124429
!!

>>719123480
>sales=gud
kys

>>719124305
No, they are moving on to a new world with thankfully better hardware.

>>719124492
You lost ;)

>>719111125
Majora's Mask > 3D Open > 3D Linear

>>719124494
Does the Switch 2 even have better hardware?

>>719124484
¿?

>>719124623
>>719124593
Why are you such a retarded pedophile?

>>719124706
Because he is a snoy

A game in set way in the future, and go with me here, demise returns from ss. And the story is about breaking the original curse that has them reincarnated over and over.

>>719124838
Fair

Will we get a remake of Twilight Princess?

>>719124914
Just like the sony vp

>>719124962
Also fair.

>>719125034
Lmao

>>719124292
I wish they would gave Link the ability to talk but I know that's something Nintendo's ever going to do. Guess I'll just settle for lots of dialogue options at least.

>>719125136
Can you imagine Link saying quips like
>Well, that happened
and
>NOT IN THE TRIFORCES!

>>719125206
He would talk but he wouldn't be an autistic retard like the CDI Link.

>>719125274
CDI Link is ARYAN, what are you talking about

A Zelda game.

I THINK LINK SUCKS

I'll buy a Zelda game again if it has dungeons (and if it's not another ALTTP rehash)

>>719125136
Same. Silent MCs are a stupid holdover from when games were trying to copy too many tabletop mechanics, and it's exceptionally bad in 3D voice acted games.

>>719125486
Why are silent MCs bad?

I miss when Cobson made those shitty drawings sperging all over the Zelda DiC cartoon

>>719101841
>but it's good enough that I wanted to see it refined
The OoT formula is outdated, dead end game design. Fuck off with this shit already.

>>719125664
Because scenes where characters talk at you instead of to you are terrible for storytelling and immersion breaking and only retards with a bastardized idea of what rollplaying is get mad at a voice that isn't their own.

>>719126013
Faggot

>>719126958
Keep drinking the koolaid that your favorite childhood game was some kind of undisputed masterpiece and not just a mediocre transitional title with tons of growing pains.

>>719127121
Keep being a faggot.

I love all Zelda games :)

>>719127253
Don't think. Zelda is more successful, popular, and better received than ever. It's time to get over it, the OoT formula is finally dead. The world is healing.

>>719127370
>the Zelda formula is dead
ftfy faggot

>>719127370
Why is the OoT formula bad? I think the game kinda still holds up despite being an N64 game
I liked BoTW thought i don't care for open world games