Thread 719113254

>No ridiculously low level cap--no level cap at all, in fact
>The ability to keep playing after the end of the main quest, with bonus content depending on what factions you went with
>A much larger, more open world with more locations to find; the game really rewards unfettered exploration
>Boston is a huge, dense city rather than Vegas's three buildings
>The Settlement/building/settlement defense system
>A perks system that actually encourages different character builds
>Better item crafting
>Much cooler power armor (with jetpacks!)
>No invisible walls
>An excellent "survival" mode; I can't imagine playing without it
>Flying around in vertibirds
>Along with the jetpacks and vertibirds, just a more "vertical" game in general; there's a lot to find on building tops and elevated highways
>Behemoths and mirelurk queens
>A gun that shoots actual cannonballs
>The ability to call artillery salvos on enemy fortifications
>Can blow off enemies' individual body parts, allowing for more interesting combat tactics overall

no

>yes
>no (yes)
>shaun? (yes)
>yes (funny voice)

>>719113254 (OP)
My only gripe is that the player character HAS to conform to the outdated gender roles of the traditional husband-wife marriage. There's no room for player freedom and expression because they didn't bother to make an option non-binary players (hopefully won't be the case in the next game, seeing as starfield let's you choose your pronouns)

>>719113254 (OP)
I wish it had more weapon variety, more old fallout guns and real guns would have been nice.

76 mogs 4
that's how sad your game is

>>719113254 (OP)
Oh, boy! Look at all these Pipe Guns I've found!

>>719113254 (OP)
Fallout 4 is the most fun to go back to

>>719115165

If I just want to sink hours into a looter shooter while listening to podcasts would 76 be a good fit?

>>719113254 (OP)
also better furry mods than New Vegas DESU

>>719115517
>If I just want to sink hours while listening to podcasts
yeah but that goes for a lot of games
at the end of the day its an mmo and you do mmo things
its janky and of course has the fucking microtransaction bullshit that wants you to sign up for the subscription or else your stash limit is tiny

>>719113254 (OP)
>predefined character that is also voiced
>gimped dialogue system
>settlements are mostly under development because that’s YOUR job
>ugly weapons and armor with retarded looter shooter rarity system
>gutted rpg mechanics
>tin can power armor that runs on aaa batteries
>retarded factions and characters
>awful writing and quests
It’s amazing how bethesdrones will go into a frenzy to defend the fucking slop trough like this.

>>719113254 (OP)
It is a horrendously buggy 6/10 game

Seriously release Skyrim was much less buggy than this shit. It is NES TMNT tier. It is clear that no one working at Bethesda has any self respect or any pride in their work.

By far the weakest Fallout game.

>>719113415
You can refuse or fail most quests though? You can even let a child die

4 is only good with at least 1gb worth of mods and Cyberpunk 2077 won

>>719116983
i can refuse all the quests by not playing fallout 4

>>719115517
No, because on top of paying for the game you also have to pay for a subscription to get more storage space for all the loot you'll be collecting, since the "free" version of FO76 intentionally gives you a criminally small amount of stash for your junk.

>>719113254 (OP)
>the game really rewards unfettered exploration

>>719116249
>get mortal draw
>use it on flying lizalfos
>blocks

>>719113254 (OP)
>No ridiculously low level cap--no level cap at all, in fact
Forget builds, be everything
>The ability to keep playing after the end of the main quest, with bonus content depending on what factions you went with
I'll give you that
>A much larger, more open world with more locations to find; the game really rewards unfettered exploration
I'll give you that, although I'd like to point out that a lot of these locations feel totally disconnected from each other, while NV has networks spanning the mojave
>Boston is a huge, dense city rather than Vegas's three buildings
I'll give you that
>The Settlement/building/settlement defense system
In return, Diamond and Goodneighbor are the only developed settlements. They're full of unique characters and quests while the rest of the settlements are generic farmsteads with radiant quests
>A perks system that actually encourages different character builds
A leveling system that makes builds meaningless
>Better item crafting
Kinda, I didn't enjoy having to grab every desk fan and duct tape I saw
>Much cooler power armor (with jetpacks!)
I'll give you that
>No invisible walls
Lol
>An excellent "survival" mode; I can't imagine playing without it
It's much better than NV's hardcore mode, but it's not without it's flaws
>Flying around in vertibirds
I'll give you that
>Along with the jetpacks and vertibirds, just a more "vertical" game in general; there's a lot to find on building tops and elevated highways
Fair. I personally didn't enjoy the raised highways and the loading elevators just plain sucked
>Behemoths and mirelurk queens
What about them?
>A gun that shoots actual cannonballs
It's not cool, it's not fun to use, and it's not realistic. A good gun should be at least one of these
>The ability to call artillery salvos on enemy fortifications
It's a massive chore to set it up in a way that's actually useful, but it's fun
Cont.

>>719117261
>Can blow off enemies' individual body parts, allowing for more interesting combat tactics overall
Only works on two enemies, and I could be wrong but I remember crippling being more important in NV than FO4

>>719113254 (OP)
It's auto-levelled bonus to %-stat dogshit with progress that constantly feels abitrary and not like an RPG at all.
The locations and graphics look cartoony and fall flat.
The game is boring.
The combat is boring.
The loot is random % stat bonus garbage.
The story is stupid.
The writing is stupid.
The factions are ALL stupid. It doesn't feel like Fallout. It feels like a corporate Funko Pop journey through a dead IP (because well, it is).
The voiced protag was an ebin fail.
The settlement shit is annoying and intrusive.
The tone is vapid and simultaneously non-existent. The armour all looks shit.
The guns all look shit and feel shit to shoot.
The stealth is shit.
You cannot specialize in a single weapon or "build". Everything is a cookie cutter.
The revamps to level-ups are garbage.
The revamp to SPECIAL and the removal of skills is shit.
The game runs like shit, looks like shit.
VATS is now slow-mo garbage.
The perks all suck.
Why is everything green?
The quests are all boring. Go here, kill thing, lockpick a door or two, do some banal stupid hacking minigame that no-one knows how to play, make some irrelevant dialogue choices that may or may not give you EXP, pick up the macguffin (if applicable), shoot an auto-levelled bullet sponge miniboss that drops a randomly-generated "legendary" weapon with some modifier on it like "more % damage if you stand still for XYZ seconds while on fire" and then return. Zzzzzzzzzzzz SNORE SNOOZE ZZZZZ SLEEP.
>Paid fucking mods

I bought it physical on release day and the first time I played it I was so underwhelmed. It is genuinely a 6/10 game. I mean that with full fucking sincerity.

>>719113254 (OP)
Too bad it's extremely lame and boring though

>>719117157
You can go anywhere after leaving the vault. The loot system makes it fun unironically. You can do all of the main out of sequence and there will be dialogue for it. You're given more freedom than any game before it.

>>719117090
You also chose to become a woman and that wasn't a very good choice now, was it?

>>719113254 (OP)

>No ridiculously low level cap--no level cap at all, in fact
Bad. If there's no builds it all just feels the same every time.
4 also has way too many "mandatory" perks.

>The ability to keep playing after the end of the main quest, with bonus content depending on what factions you went with
Actually a good thing.
>A much larger, more open world with more locations to find; the game really rewards unfettered exploration
>more locations to find
>90% empty settlement garbage
They ruined the feel of the entire world with the settlement system
>Boston is a huge, dense city rather than Vegas's three buildings
"huge"
>The Settlement/building/settlement defense system
This system ruined the game. unironically.
>A perks system that actually encourages different character builds
You mean 1 omnibuild with perks in a type of firearm
>Better item crafting
sidegrade
>Much cooler power armor (with jetpacks!)
Power armor being powerful is one good thing F4 did.
>No invisible walls
There are absolutely invisible walls
>An excellent "survival" mode; I can't imagine playing without it
Lazily implemented survival mode that people had to harass them for not including on launch
>Flying around in vertibirds
You don't fly them. You watch the world pass by on an on rails train ride through the sky
>Along with the jetpacks and vertibirds, just a more "vertical" game in general; there's a lot to find on building tops and elevated highways
Positive
>Behemoths and mirelurk queens
ok and?
>A gun that shoots actual cannonballs
reddit tier
>The ability to call artillery salvos on enemy fortifications
what fucking enemy fortifications lmao
>Can blow off enemies' individual body parts, allowing for more interesting combat tactics overall
been awhile but pretty sure this is ghouls only.
Others just die when it happens

4 is a downgrade from even 3 in terms of being an RPG
You need an extensive amount of modding to make it a decent shooter

>>719117572
more freedom to look at empty buildings and loot trash
wow!

>>719113254 (OP)
Being able to play after the main story ends only highlights how little your choice of faction affects the world.

>>719117261
no level cap doesn't make builds meaningless. you need to pick and choose stats and perk points to allocate during early and middle game to flesh out your build

Is this the brat correction by deathclaw dick thread?

>>719113415
op bfto for being a retarded bethesdaslop faggot

>>719113254 (OP)
>No ridiculously low level cap--no level cap at all, in fact
yes
>The ability to keep playing after the end of the main quest, with bonus content depending on what factions you went with
worthless, the extra quests aren't fun
>A much larger, more open world with more locations to find; the game really rewards unfettered exploration
not really different from new vegas
>Boston is a huge, dense city rather than Vegas's three buildings
yes
>The Settlement/building/settlement defense system
garbage
>A perks system that actually encourages different character builds
no, perk system got completely neutered, and killed most roleplay, "want to be a guy with a flamer? pick heavy weapons perk, what to be a guy with a minigun, pick heavy weapons perk" and so on, no cool thematic perk, just "do more damage with x weapon"
>Better item crafting
no
>Much cooler power armor (with jetpacks!)
yes, the jetpack sucks though
>No invisible walls
wrong
>An excellent "survival" mode; I can't imagine playing without it
the only thing making the game bearable, thanks to it's awful difficulty settings, playing on normal is way to easy and you are a tank, and playing on harder difficulties makes every enemy a bullet sponge
>Flying around in vertibirds
only good for survival, though they are a bit buggy
>Along with the jetpacks and vertibirds, just a more "vertical" game in general; there's a lot to find on building tops and elevated highways
meh, its very deceiving, builds usually have 1 to 3 floors max, and taking an elevator that only works on 3 floors max barely adds "vertical gameplay"
>Behemoths and mirelurk queens
meh
>A gun that shoots actual cannonballs
not good
>The ability to call artillery salvos on enemy fortifications
worthless, unless you are right next to a settlement where you built an artillery piece, the range of those things is simply too small
>Can blow off enemies' individual body parts, allowing for more interesting combat tactics overall
not really

>>719117747
There'a more quests in FO4 than the previous entries though?

>>719117808
>flesh out your build
kek
by getting literally everything relevant before you're halfway through the game

>>719113254 (OP)
Half of those are blatant lies rajesh

>>719117801
If you actually did play it after the end you would know npcs comment on your main game ending in the dlcs

>>719118050
not possible with level gated perks unless you avoid finishing the main quest

Can we talk about how rushed the beginning of the game is?

>HI HERE IS UR WIFE AND UR BABY
>OH MY GOD INTERACTABLES!!!! THEY WILL COMMENT ON UR FAV FALLOUT LORE!!!!!!!!!! IT'S SUGAR BOMBS LIKE OMFG THEY HAVE NUKA COLA IN THE FRIDGE ROFLMAO PEAK FALLOUT!!!!!
>KNOCK KNOCK!!!! HI ITS ME UR LOCAL VAULT GUY!!! IT'S VAULT TEC CALLING!!!! LOL IT'S THE 1950s AND IM FROM VAULT TEC, REMEMBER VAULT TEC LOL IT'S THE 1950s AND IT'S VAULT TEC FROM FALLOUT
>WELL ANYWAY
>GZ UR IN THE VAULT EVEN THO U DIDNT ASK ASF LOL...
K CYA!
>BTW I SAID YOUR NAME IN AUDIO CHAT EVEN THOUGH YOU TYPED IT IN, ISN'T THAT LIKE SO RADICAL? THAT WON'T HAPPEN AGAIN SO ENJOY IT WE SPENT THOUSANDS ON THIS ONE THING ALONE.
>DID I MENTION I WILL SAY YOUR NAME??? I SAID IT.
>OK BYE FOR REAL
>O SHIT WATS THAT???
>BOMBS FALLING 2 MINUTES AFTER U GOT A VAULT PLACEMENT WITHOUT BEING ON THE LIST OR ASKING FOR IT OR PAYING FOR IT EL OH EL THAT IS VERY NARRATIVELY CONVENIENT ISNT IT LOL
> HAHA DONT ASK QUESTIONS BRAIN OFF TIME.
>BABBY AND MAN AND WOMAN GO IN VAULT FOR NO REASON
>????????
>OMG ITS A BOMB
>OMG ITS A VAULT
>OMG ITS A VAULt JUMPSUIT #peakfallout
>OMG!!! EPIC TWIST TIME UR ACTUALLY AN EXPERIMENT
>NOW ITS 200 YEARS LATER.
>NO BABBY AND WIFE. LIFE BAD.
>FIND BABBY AND WIFE. LIFE GOOD.

Every time I play it and think about it for more than just 10 seconds I cringe and die inside. It's so so so so amateur and hamfisted

>>719118241
People who rush straight through the main quest one objective after another can barely be called people.

>>719117801
You get hand over power to the BoS, Minutemen or Institute and it reflects in the world. Minor quests like the Cabot how can add encounters to the world too.

>>719113254 (OP)
>1(one(uno)) actual town in the entire game
>3 smaller towns not counting faction outposts
>Literally EVERYTHING else is either dungeons or base building

>>719118309
same goes for people who meticulously do every side quest before finishing the main one
i finish the main quest around level 25 usually

>>719113254 (OP)
I would like to point out that Fallout 4 is majorly lacking in cool guns. The service rifle is cool, the laser RCW is cool. The hunting shotgun is cool. This isn't even a realism thing, most of the guns just look lame as fuck. It's a sin that there's not a single pump action shotgun

>>719117701
gold medal projection

>>719118696
You will use the laser musket and you will like it

>Hi there, we're The Institute.
>Haha, get it? Like, the Massachusets Institute of Technology except ... it's in Fallout haha!
>We like to be the good guys here at The Institute.
>So we made up this genius plan of making highly advanced robots using our preserved scientific autoclave habitat with advanced working pre-war technology and hydroponic farming capabilities and pre-war specimens untouched by the radiation from the world above to identify and replace perfectly random individuals who are living in the ruins above.
>That random scop seller in Diamond City? We killed them and replaced them with a 1:1 perfect copy of their psyche and physical appearance using synthetic robots!!!!
>We are doing this because um well uhhhhhhhhhh DUHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH fjfjfkghgagkajfnllssssss;'a;aa;,amalfmfffsggggggjksf.
>In summary our activity is the last best hope for the wasteland and all mankind.

man

>>719118696
Fallout 4 did have a Tommy Gun, that was cool. Of course, it's immediately ruined because I soon found the Combat Rifle.

And there's the returning Railway Rifle, that's always nice to see.

>>719113254 (OP)
>4 dialogue options
>No actual RPG mechanics
The only redeeming quality of 4 was when Emil admitted that "Day of the Rake" Nate was the person laughing at his bud executing a filthy leaf in the streets from the intro of Fallout 1

It's lame game for lame-o's

>>719113254 (OP)
I've only ever gotten the urge to replay FO4 once in the past 10 years. The worldbuilding and NPCs are so unmemorable not even new lewd mods get me excited to play it another time.
The only thing that'll make me play it again is if it got a fuckhuge trainwreck mod like The Frontier.

>>719113254 (OP)
>emil's retardation accidentally created the best protagonist in the whole series
That's pretty much the only redeemable factor of this steaming pile of shit (apart from Piper).
>inb4 muh shooting mechanics
It doesn't fucking matter when I can just install mods for NV that put it on par with FO4.

>>719114726
>real guns
No.
Sick of all those MODERN GUN mods and the cawadoody faggots who make them.
Modern guns have no charm.

>>719118975
>The only thing that'll make me play it again is if it got a fuckhuge trainwreck mod like The Frontier.
London? although that seems more mediocre than something outright bad to laugh at

>>719118861
Don't forget
>Every single other faction wants to blow up the Institute
>Despite there being tons of tech that would help on the surface and a massive sheltered habitable space
>Nope no time just blow it up who cares
Everyone in fallout 4 was written to be fucking retarded. God I hate Emil.

>>719119357
I mean, with FEV so close to the Institute
I'd burn the whole place down just to make sure it was destroyed.

>>719117261
>>719117736
>>719118019
Fallout 4 has no invisible walls inside the world map. FNV and Fallout 3 are the only games that have that (and 3 uses them only to cordon off DC).

>>719116983
No you can't, it either gets registered in your quest log (same as accepting it) or they approach you with the quest again a short time later

>>719119357
Only the BoS and Railroad want to destroy it. The Minutemen help if you ask them but they can coexist with the institute if you get that ending

>>719117261
>>719113254 (OP)
I liked building up settlements into firebases and slowly colonizing the wasteland under my banner

>>719119662
>Refuse or fail
Doesn't disprove the point.

>>719114049
>outdated gender roles of the traditional husband-wife marriage
>non-binary
>pronouns
This checklist is weak bait.

>>719119157
Who said anything about modern guns?
>>719118882
The tommy is cool, but like you said that's immediately ruined by how weak it is. Personally I think the 10mm SMG from 3/NV was cooler

>>719113254 (OP)
Everything Bethesda makes is shit.

>>719118280
It was the only part of the story they cared about, at least until the vault itself
The art book shows off how everywhere past (wartime) Sanctuary has increasingly little concept art and work put into it, to the point where things like The Glow are just a couple of concepts as if everyone was spitballing ideas right before being fired

>Hi there, we're the Railroad.
>You may remember us from a sloppy straight-to-DVD Disney kids' movie circa 2006.
>It's tough out here in the Wasteland. It's hard. We have to survive daily against constant, multiple threat vectors, any one of which could end us on the spot, or doom us to a life of constant agony and pain; which we already live anyway, but you get the idea.
>We're just going to assume it makes sense to you because you're the one playing the game and anything we make you do, you will automatically justify in your head as being the Right and Moral Thing to Do. Hashtag #meta am I right!!!!!
>So anyway um have you heard about this one specific brand new dangerous threat vector called um, well they call them "synthetics", or "synths" for short, and well basically they are dangeous robotic terminators that can appear at any time, any place, and appear as any person. They will kidnap and kill people and assume their social role and, if necessary, their economic position in whatever remains of human society in the God-awful ruins of post-apocalyptia.
>They carry advanced directed-energy weapons and have state-of-the-art pre-war scanning capabilities. They do not eat, do not sleep, feel no emotion, have ostensibly perfect accuracy with their strange, dangerous new weapons, and have a penchant for randomly attacking and killing literally -anything- that goes near them.
>AND IT'S SO UNFAIR THAT PEOPLE HATE THEM!!!!!

my experience is that Bethesda fallouts are richer in physical content within the game but they dont give you much of a narrative reason to explore there since there isnt much in the way of good quests, where as new vagas is ectremely limited in content, but there are quests for everything and the quests are overall of a higher quality

fallout 3 is far better than new vagas if you just want to wander around and explore, but the experience does feel a little flat overall because you dont really feel like there is a reason for doing it, and you dont really feel like you are apart of something

fallout 4 alleviates this somewhat with the survival and settlement building aspect, which I really like, but ultimately that still falls flat eventually for the same reasons

honestly im convinced that the people with EXTREME neurotic hate boners for fallout 3/4 feel such a strong emotional reaction because they are looking something to fill a void in their lives and need that strong narrative aspect and feeling like they are apart of something

>>719120204
I love that's it's a legitimate debate in the Railroad if Computers and Toasters deserve rights.

>>719119670
Yeah but that's only if you side with Institute. If you think the Institute is fucking retarded and want to take their tech and facility and put it to better use that's simply not an option for any of the factions.

A bud got me a 76 key for a dollar and i think i spent more time in it compared to fo4
Got to level 50 and dropped it though

>>719120204
>feel no emotion
is that ever actually stated? im pretty sure the entire point is that they do feel emotion

>>719120204
>>719120418
Gen 3 synths are clones retards. You're critizing a very stupid narrative and yet you somehow don't comprehend it. Bad fortune.

wats blud yapping about

>>719120689
There's enough computer in there to copy a Miss Nanny's persona into

>>719120504
Yeah but irrc the sequence was an sneak attack that took the instute off guard. If you didn't blow them up you'd lose the chance later on.

>>719120620
>>719120689
>Caring about the self-professed capacity of emotion of a relentless killing machine and / or the generational demarcation they belong to as if it has any bearing on people's perception and understanding of the situation while they live in the reality of that situation, in a dangerous world where they are 1. killing people and 2. are yet another threat
Oh but wait,
hold on,
I'm not sure anymore.
Those robot things that have been killing people,
some of them they say that they feel emotions :( big sad.
We have to do something to help them!

r u 4 srs like
...
bro.
r u 4 srs bro

>>719120990
Well I guess all those human clients who got personalized memories in the Memory Den were robots too. Sorry anon.

>>719121176
of all the things to hate about fallout 4, ripping off an old ass sci fi trope is an odd one

>>719114049
haha yeah we don't talk about starfield here

>>719121319
>You can't criticize this incredibly stupid bullshit because it was handled better elsewhere in other media.
bro is 4 real serious OMFG LOL

>>719121176
>schizo meltdown
take your meds nigga

once you get better go and play the game and try to find out how gen 3s are made

>>719121319
all bethesda games are love letters to old media.

>>719115517
Honestly yeah. But they keep fucking it up more. I've been thinking of going back just cause it's the only fallout content we're going to get for another 10 fucking years
>>719117114
>>719116189
It used to be on gamepass when I was still subbed to that so I always just used an alt as a mule to avoid paying them before I quit :^)

>>719121176
>a relentless killing machine
but they weren't all relentless killing machines?

>>719113254 (OP)
Kill yourself

>>719121176
>we should do things to help sentient beings that are innocent, and the innocent should not be treated as the guilty

well, yea, i am serious, bro.

>>719121495
>take your meds nigga
Nta but I wish brownoids would stop coming here to say that to people when they use words they never learned in their esl classes

>>719113415
>yes (funny voice)

>>719121495
>schizo meltdown
Take like iodine salt for your low IQ or something holy hell!

>>719121589
Wrong. They're love letters to commie bullshit and ANTI-AMERICAN PROPAGANDER. Go back to the USSR traiter

>>719119148
i'm still certain that Emil either forgot or never knew in the first place that the soldier he turned into Nate laughed at the bloodshed. he probably thought that NPC was just standing there. emil strikes me as being that ignorant.

>>719120418
>this mr handy shows more emotion than that synth
>we dont rescue robots though because they don't look like people
the factions suck so much

>>719121828
>>719121923
Yeah that's cool and all; but you're talking about the issue from the perspective of being the player and the artificially-written Railroad; it makes zero sense for the Railroad to exist from the perceptions of the NPCs that literally live in the Fallout 4 world... that's what my post says... it makes zero narrative sense for the Railroad to organically exist as a faction in Fallout 4 given the behaviour and perceptions of the synthetics as a group in the world of Fallout 4.
My posts are an exegesis on the shit writing that runs throughout Fallout 4. How can you not see that? Jesus.

>>719122551
they're made to mirror the underground railroad
bit like complaining about abolitionists existing before the civil war

>>719122062
you mean trumps best friend?

>>719122638
What?

>>719122631
Yeah gotta agree with you here.
> it makes zero narrative sense for the Railroad to organically exist as a faction in Fallout 4 given the behaviour and perceptions of the synthetics as a group in the world of Fallout 4
The same could probably be said about the actual underground railroad at the time.

>>719120990
you know, that side quest pretty much trumps the entire "are synths human or robot" plotline seeing as how Curie the robot is overwhelmed by Curie the synth's overarching humanity. also, it is so stupid that her motive for becoming human is that robots cannot do things without humans when literally the entire reason we build robots is so that they can do things without humans. everything surrounding curie is so stupid.

>>719121701
>it's the only fallout content we're going to get
maybe that Fallout 3 & New Vegas remaster rumor that circulates every once in awhile is true and we'll get that? dare i cope? i got the Oblivion Remaster out of coping so maybe it will work again?

>>719121976
>>719122013
Why be so mad? Take a chill pill.

>>719122631
Yes I fucking know that it's a sloppy ham-fisted attempt to narratively mirror the real-life anti-slavery movement that existed in the United States during the 18th century and early-19th century.
They share the same fucking name.
That doesn't make my posts any less critical of the poor writing.

Christ it's like I'm talking to a Gen 1 synth. Getting more a Fallout 4 experience in this fucking thread than I ever did playing the pos game itself.

>>719122840
>The same could probably be said about the actual underground railroad at the time.
HMM I DUNNO DID SLAVES / BLACK PEOPLE GO AROUND MURDERING RANDOM PEOPLE AND KIDNAPPING THEM AND REPLACING THEM WITH 1:1 SYNTH COPIES WHILE TERRORIZING ENTIRE COMMUNITIES IN A WORLD FRAUGHT WITH DANGER AT EVERY TURN AND WHERE SURVIVAL WAS NOT A DAILY GUARANTEE HMM NO THEY DID NOT

WAS THERE EVER A REMOTE QUESTION THAT ESCAPED SLAVES WERE UNDENIABLY HUMAN HMM NO THERE WAS NOT

OK, fuck it. Fallout 4 was made for people like you. Enjoy it.
I give up not because you've "won an argument" but because you are, literally (as in factually), too fucking stupid to comprehend what I am fucking saying.

>>719113254 (OP)
>my game?
>glitched
>the Railroad?
>dusted
>my son?
>plugged
>lil' Shaun?
>not my son
>not even my wife's son
Ahh...Fallout 4.

>>719123168
>HMM I DUNNO DID SLAVES / BLACK PEOPLE GO AROUND MURDERING RANDOM PEOPLE AND KIDNAPPING THEM

>>719113415
>Yes
>No [Speech 30]

>>719123273
Not but be honest for a single fucking second OK and then when you respond to me again pretend like you're NOT on 4chan

No cap

>>719123124
I was only one of those replies but it actually is a schizo melty this time. Just used to seeing replies saying it for no reason lol

>>719117384
This, even with hundreds of mods it's still so soulless, I tried to get into it but couldn't.

>>719121275
Let me know when they manage to copy a machine processor to a human mind

finna

>>719123416
>I am stupid, so any time I see a remotely verbose post instead of some stupid 24-second-long Twitter / YouTube / TikTok shat, I assume it's due to that poster having schizophrenia
I bet you post on /pol/ and have opinions about why the world is going to shit as well. Fucking irony

>>719123328
>pretend like you're NOT on 4chan
Yes. They did. They didn't clone and replace people because at the current rate they're still about 25,000 years off of developing the technology to do so. I would still be saying the exact same thing if we were having this conversation at a bar instead of on /v/. I can't tell if you're trollan or not man

>>719117261
>>The Settlement/building/settlement defense system
>In return, Diamond and Goodneighbor are the only developed settlements. They're full of unique characters and quests while the rest of the settlements are generic farmsteads with radiant quests
A misconception. The settlement System was only added fairly late in development, which is why the system barely interacts with the main quest.
It's more likely than not that an earlier idea of settlement control and the Minutemen's radiant everything is the root cause of the genericism of nearly every settlement.

>>719118038
Errrrm- ChatGPT proved you wrong?

>>719123416
No problem mate.

>>719123581
It's Fallout. Science is used the same way magic is in fantasy settings. Plus FO4 writers aren't into consistency in internal realism.

>>719123695
Have you seen that post? It's like an aneurysm in text form. That term fits it. Sorry if you don't like it.

>>719123695
>I bet you post on /pol/ and have opinions about why the world is going to shit as well
I don't give a darn how or why the world is going to shit and I can't stand /pol/fags. Try again
It's not because it's "verbose" it's because he's having a word salad aspergers meltdown over something he doesn't understand.
Fun fact: The medications they use to treat people who are easily agitated due to autism/asperger's are typically lower, off label doses of the same medications they use to treat schizophrenia e.g. Abilify, risperidone, quetiapine :)

>>719113254 (OP)
New Vegas has always been trash FUCK you tranny freaks

>>719124310
That's your opinion and you're entitled to it even if it's wrong

>>719121176
>Peaceful Synths literally break free and look for people to help them, often times going directly to the railroad
>NOOOO THEY'RE ALL KILLING MACHINES AND MUST DIE
I know the average post IQ here isn't high, but come on. You could at least pay attention to the games you play.

>>719113254 (OP)
And it has at least two wives unlike nv which has zero.

>>719116983
>Refuse quest
>"Ok... Here come talk to me if you change your mind"
>Talk to WHOEVER added to your miscellaneous quest tab

>>719124469
OK sure but that's because you are looking at it from the narrative perspective of being the player.
It makes no sense for a random everyday Wasteland survivor to give a shit about the emotional compexity of a fucking robotic synth that go around in packs hunting people. Do you think they care about the delineation of Gen 1 vs Gen 3? It's the Wasteland.
It's ridiculous that there were people who went
>Oh wait hang on we've got it all wrong we should start caring about the synth who murdered and replaced and impersonated my neighbor's husband because it says it feels emotions.
It's patently ridiculous. That's what I am saying, nothing more. Why are you shitting on me for saying that? What, you think Fallout 4 handled this Phillip K. Dick shit with grace? Dude -- like did we even play the same fucking game???? Are you on crack???? Just jumping on some bandwagon because you see people jumping on me due to them being retarded and unable to perceive a post being formatted in a way so thats its delivery when read is funnier???? Christ almighty what the fuck are you people????? You're the Goddamned synths here it's like I'm talking to LLM automatons. Fucking irony that you would dare suggest to question my IQ.

>>719124723
Just like irl

>>719113254 (OP)
>no level cap at all
No hard level cap but there is a soft one

>>719124289
>I don't give a darn how or why the world is going to shit
Frankly unsurprised as fuck.

>>719113415
>ignores dialogue
>maybe even unintentionally
>random npcs become mute / broken
>the usual console commands don't fix it
Thanks, Todd.

>>719125039
I FUCKING HATE YOU KARLA I WON'T FUCKING DRILL YOUR WALL FOR YOU STOP MESSAGING ME ABOUT IT GOD DAMNIT.

If we don't get a Fallout Spinoff game soon, I might actually be forced to consider buying Fallout 76.

I'm scared.

>>719116983
thats not how role playing works

>>719123882
New Vegas counts go to and talk to [NPC Name] as a quest while 3 and 4 counts that as a single step in a quest.

>>719113254 (OP)
>>A perks system that actually encourages different character builds
You call THIS bait?

>>719114049
Ok I see your point, but if you kill yourself and leave the functional humans alone, this wouldn't be a problem.

>>719125349
My name isn't franky

>>719125579
>buying a game that does everything in its power to sell you micro-transactions
I seriously hope you don't do this.

>>719125579
76 was actually pretty good. It had a lot of good stories and zones with real atmosphere.

>>719125950
Was. They fixed it and promptly messed it up pretty badly.

>>719116249
>predefined character that is also voiced

You will never be a woman, society will never accommodate you. At best, you can sympathy-bully people into tolerating you. But you will always be hated deep down, by others and most of all, yourself.

Why does Bethesda always use family as a plot point?

>>719126015
oh, fair enough. I played it a year or two back with my brother. We did the Pitt stuff, got pretty strong, and quit.
Some areas were really comfy to hang out in.

>>719124969
It's not about the Narrative perspective, it's human psychology. You get enough human-looking people acting terrified, you get sympathy. You get people talking about an oppressor that you also hate, you get sympathy.
As the railroad is an organization that can function with low numbers, the Railroad doesn't need the entirety of the general populace to be supportive, they just need individuals exposed to "The Good Ones" like Valentine, or people underexposed to infiltrators, like people outside of large settlements, diamond city residents born long enough after the Broken Mask, and haven't been recently drawn into a frenzy by Piper.
But let us not forget something very important about the origins of the Railroad. It was founded by 3 people, at least one of which was a gen 3 Synth. And Synths still make up some of their ranks today.
And biggest of all: They're not particularly large of a faction. There's probably less than a Hundred people over all.
>Jumping on a Bandwagon
You said something Retarded, anon. Retardation gets the most (you)s because people want you to stop being retarded. That's how shit's always worked

>>719117028
I fucking wish, cp2077 plays like shit, and maintains the record of the only game removed from PS store. Imagine being so bad even console won't take you. LMAO

>>719124969
Who's perspective are we supposed to see it from? Nate isn't a random everyday wasteland survivor. He's an outsider looking in, like the player

>>719113415
>yes
>no(end dialogue and repeat again to me later so i can say yes)
>tell me more(say something else then repeat same question to me with same options)
>sarcastic(yes, but reddit humor)

>>719126108
It's extremely lazy writing. They're trying to make you connect to someone based on a relation alone so they can use that to push moral dilemmas on you. Bethesda writers can't think of (or even worse, are scared to even try) ways of having you constantly interact with someone to build rapport with them and a connection, so they just throw it in. As with most Bethesda slop, it's just barely scraping shit together so they can say they've got a game for you.

>>719113254 (OP)
op bait, but
i recently played through all the mainline games and had to drop 4 because it's just, shit
the shit i had to do to even get that game to run was ass. going from playing the older games that had actual dialog to (dedicated reddit button) was too much
1 > 3 > NV = 2 >>>>> 4

>>719126246
retard

>>719126547
put 3 right next to 4 and you've got a decent list

I want some Nuka-Cherry now.

>>719126126
I played it with one of my friends from way back that I kinda grew apart from. Chillin in the wasteland with your bro is a fun time
>>719126108

>>719126662
I don't know anything about the PS store but CP2077 did sucked.

>>719126039
This is a very weird self report given that both Nate and Nora are like this. The fact that most people call them Nate and Nora just proves my point. How the fuck can you have a proper RPG when your protagonist has a name, a fucking predetermined backstory that the player didn’t make and a fucking voice.

>>719113254 (OP)
>A perks system that actually encourages different character builds
There are no character builds since you can max out every perk. It's like trying to say that Skyrim has builds.

>>719123312
thats 1, literally 1 interaction where the dialogue goes that way and its because you get asked if you are a casino worker since the dudes dont trust House not dissarming Freeside to make it part of his little dictatorship.
every other interaction where you pass a speech check makes the quest take another route or gives you more options to approach it or finish it, it isnt just "i clicked the button with the number and it said succesful, finish the quest for me NOW".
FO4 took all of this out and replaced it with a yellow marker highlight for the dialogue choices that automatically lets you resolve every quest with a "we are friends now, stop killing people" type of line.
>>719128825
it also doesnt help they dont have a personality of their own and that the only thing playing as either Nate or Nora changes is the sex and the VA of your character because they get nothing to differentiate their interactions with other characters.

>>719121176
>Those robot things that have been killing people,
>some of them they say that they feel emotions
Which really who cares? Raiders are 100% human and are capable of feeling emotion and yet they are shoot on sight.

>>719113254 (OP)
so it's better because it's... less of an rpg and more of a sandbox?
but what if I what I'm after is an rpg? you know, from this series of rpgs. I wonder if these games are each individually designed to give different experiences and I wonder which of those experiences are more intriguing.
I dunno if I wanted a sandbox experience I couldprobably go play something like, Just Cause or Grand Theft Auto instead...

>>719131542
No it’s more that in an effort to dumb things down for normalfags that Bethesda keeps removing more and more complexity from their games.