Thread 719165717

it wasn't even liked by the dragons dogma 1 fans

A man of his talents and he just immediately sells out to a mobile phone game company. He will never get recognized for anything remarkable ever again and will just be absorbed into that machine.

>>719165717 (OP)
I think that's more of a self own

>ACTUALLY it wasn't meant to be enjoyed by everyone, only my premium cadre of slurpers will get my genius!!!

Why do you people still like this hack

>>719165717 (OP)
Yeah... About that...

>>719165717 (OP)
You made a fucking Action RPG in the era of maximum popularity for that shit
The enemy design is shit and as usual the combat is designed to clown on helpless enemies with skill spam
The simulative aspects of the open world elements fall apart instantly
You didn't make a controversial game, you made a bad game like the original

>>719165717 (OP)
Yeah, you just made a dogshit game nobody likes.

>>719165843
>A man of his talents
lel

>>719165717 (OP)
Reminder that Dragon's Dogma 1 also sucked and it being good was just a meme spread by delusional /v/tards

brown favela monkey discord thread

>>719165717 (OP)
>bomb
>seethe at company with too many +10 million sellers to count on 4 hands
Pretty funny. Keep making aaa slop.

>>719165958
This shit sells so much and yet soulsfags will still demand to be taken serious as hardcore gaymer playing only the most difficult and obscure games.

>>719165932
because le wholesome BANG BANG PULL MY DEBIL TRIGGER XDDD devil may cry is le saved!! (dmc5 came out six years ago by the way)

>>719166239
>Reminder that Dragon's Dogma 1 also sucked and it being good was just a meme spread by delusional /v/tards
It took me embarrassingly many years to realize but the reason /v/tards praised the game was because they could make and share pedo models. They seethed really hard at 2 for not allowing that.

>>719165717 (OP)
who?

>>719166239
it didn't suck, it just had flaws and was old. But it was good enough to make me wanna 100%

>>719166239
This, it had some good ideas like the pawns but everything else sucked, spending the entire game running back and forth the same place and fighting the same 3 enemies was awful

>>719165717 (OP)
Lmao he was probably turned down by Nintendo at some point in his career.

The problem with Dragon's Dogma 2 is that it felt like so much work was spent on shit that ultimately wasn't needed. Itsuno should unironically learn a thing from FromSoft with how they just rehash tech and keep building on each game with more content instead of starting clean with every game. Elden Ring exists by stealing from 10+ years of Souls work, meanwhile Itsuno-

Devil May Cry 3 was a custom engine built off RE outbreak
Devil May Cry 4 was MT Framework
Devil May Cry 5 was RE engine
Dragon's Dogma 1 was MT framework
Dragon's Dogma 2 was RE engine

Making sequels in brand new engines with every game is ambitious, but you have to wonder how much of DD2's development was just spent on making DD1's gameplay work in RE engine again? What would it have been like if it just built of DD1's engine like DDO was? Once the next DMC comes out it will probably be on REX engine as well.

tendies are SEETHING itt LMAO

>>719165832
/thread

>>719166239
>>719166610
>>719166878
Soulless husks.

>>719167081
nobody is seething here Eric. Just you because your thread didn't go how you hope lmao

>Tendoids seething hard in the replies
lmfao

>>719165717 (OP)
That was a brutal self own though, he literally admits that only shit eaters defend DD2

>>719165717 (OP)
>/v/tards actually worshipped this hack
What a meteoric fall from grace. holy shit

>>719165717 (OP)
Glad everyone is realizing Itsuno was always a hack.

>e33trannies are desperately trying to spin this as a dunk on tendies
they’re really afraid of losing goty to silksong

>>719167916
>Trannysong
Ah yes, the game that everyone talks about but nobody is actually buying.

>>719165832
what fans lol

>>719165717 (OP)
I mean, fuck Nintendo, but DD2 was absolutely design-by-committee slop, Itsuno is fucking retarded if he thinks otherwise.

HE CAN'T JUST SAY THAT
SUE THIS MAN

>>719167916
DLC doesn't win GOTY. You should already know this after TOTK and Shadow of the Erdtree. Your bugslop will be crushed

>>719165717 (OP)
So journalists knew DD2 was trash and gave it 10/10 anyway.

>>719167954
and the e33shill exposes itself

>>719166842
>it didn't suck, it just had flaws and was old
Nope
Souls games have flaws and some are old, but still have a functional game design that makes engaging with it a good time. Dragon's Dogma mechanics are all over the place. The game gets boring fast when the player outscales the world in hp and stamina and realizes the power of abusing broken vocation skills.
What requires the player to take aim and impedes movement and forces quick thinking and evaluation skills in Dark Souls (2011) is a quite mindless task in Dragon's Dogma because never once it crossed the minds of DD gameplay designer that letting yellows charge mightly show or spam triple arrow while moving on the double would be a great idea.
>>719167517
Nah

>>719165717 (OP)
Based

>>719168120
and just like that the treacherous e33troon has been exposed

>>719165832
I had a blast

>>719168727
an ass blast

>>719166527
>This shit sells so much and yet soulsfags will still demand to be taken serious as hardcore gaymer playing only the most difficult and obscure games.
But enough about MHfags

>>719165717 (OP)
>I didn't make a good game
We noticed.

>>719169337
well I had a blast, personally.

>>719169383
I am happy that your bank account is increasing, good marketer.

>>719166086
There's also the fact that he made the game when crapcom was in full DEI mode and trying to make inoffensive games.

DMCbros??? our response? perhaps we treated DmC too harshly? perhaps the series ACTUALLY needed some changes?

He made a game for shareholders.

>>719165843
It's the sad fate of all Sony-centric developers.

They'd sooner die in obscurity than make games on Nintendo platforms.

>>719165717 (OP)
>>>>>
>Mfw
Nah this aint it. The absolute audancity of this nigga. This is "Kojima shitting on the US" tier bad when handling critisim. I almost channelled anger from the days Capcom cancelled MML3 and tried to blame the megaman fans for it.

>>719169850
>Sony-centric
Obsessed.

Still blasting. Don't care.

>>719165717 (OP)
Based
>>719165832
Wrong

>>719168727
it was a return to form

>>719165832
fpbp

>>719165717 (OP)
DD2 deserved so much better fuck Crapcom

>>719165932
Devs like that are always based tho
It leads to more memorable gaming experiences in the long run

What part of what he said is a dunk on tendies?

oh hey it's this TOTALLY ORGANIC THREAD again thrown up just before the last one hits the bump limit just like yesterday

Hmm... remember that schizo who was always trying to pit DMC against other fanbases?

>>719165832
Wrong. It was fun.

>>719171284
Yea I had an absolute blast, personally.

>>719171247
it was a whole group of brown schizos
it's the same ones who tried pitting Elden Ring/Fromsoft threads against DD2, same ones who tried starting EDF vs. HD2 fights, same ones who shitposted AC6, etc.

>>719165717 (OP)
Eeeh who cares we Nintendies here with our Monkey bing bing wahoo

>>719171342
this but unironically

>>719171442
it's more like bash bash urhee

>>719165717 (OP)
tendie sisters, our response?

>>719165717 (OP)
Tell me you didn't get hired on at Nintendo at some point in your career without telling me.

>State obvious fact with "Nintendo designs their games so that everyone can enjoy them"
>Tendies lose their fucking minds

lol?

>>719165717 (OP)
Empty as fuck pointless PR talk. He never said anything like that before the game came out did he. He was spewing out bullshit like "Yep everything you want is there."
Lying sack of shit.

>>719171158
Dragon's Dogma is part of the board culture. You just don't get it.

>>719170381
>This is "Kojima shitting on the US" tier bad when handling critisim.
He never said that. What he said was that he thinks that the theme of total alienation from society is something that Americans might not get, whereas the Japanese have their own word for people who live like that, hikkimokori.

>>719165717 (OP)
>you're a tendie if you didn't rike it
based retard

>>719165832
FPBP

>>719172523
Well I had an absolute blast, personally.

>>719169515
they still are

>>719166086
why are you playing as a girl bro thats kinda gay ngl

>>719168120
it's crazy that we're all ready in game awards season
it feels like the year just started
I'm getting old bwos...

>>719165717 (OP)
I always thought Itsuno was humble but turns out he sold out immediately and got high off his own farts for DMC5 (even though it wasnt THAT good).

At least Kamiya never tried to hide being an asshole under a mask.

>>719172784
>all ready
*already
how did this happen

>>719165717 (OP)
He clearly didn't design a game to be liked by anyone

>>719165717 (OP)
>um, actually, all the haters are just tendies, my half-assed game was peak
I thought you couldn't say shit like this in Japan without burning all your bridges?

>>719173012
He works for China mobileslop now

>>719168120
E33 is pure bugslop doughbeit
>UE5
>Asset store assets and animations with little next to no work done on them
>Shit faggot writing by leftists faggots
this game is what chinks dream for the future of all vidya and if you dont see this
then not only are you a massive faggot but also stupid and blind as fuck.

>>719172858
Kamiya has always been based. Itsuno is just a fag

>>719173012
Itsuno already old and is probably rich as fuck.
he does not give a fuck what nintendo thinks. hes too based!

>>719166086
You probably think digshit like Elden Ring has good combat.

>>719172656
true, I should watch my phrasing.

>>719168259
I remember you. You're the retarded Fromdrone who thinks Souls games have actual movesets, including bows.

heh, we dont make games for people to enjoy, we make it for the fan(s) who played dragons dogma 1 and thought "damn I sure hope he fixes none of the problems in this game"

>>719165832
but the hired advertisers and capcom sycophants had a blast, that's all that matters

>"No, my game isn't complete dogshit, you just didn't get it!"
>"I didn't get fired for being a hack who wasted years on slop that underperformed and is one of /v/'s most hated games of all time, I didn't want to make any more sequels!"
You fucking retards don't actually believe this, right?

>>719165717 (OP)
Let it be known that Itsuno has officially taken responsibility now. Capcom cannot be blamed.

>>719176631
No anon, it was Capcom! They FORCED him to get it out b-because Wilds got delayed! Exoprimal tanked, and Capcom NEEDED the game out before the end of the fiscal year! It's a good thing he epically pwned them with the game being a commentary on the company's reliance on sequels, though! Hahaha...

DD2 was such a piece of shit it made me look at DD1, at one point my favorite game of all time, in a worse light

>>719173393
Mald

>>719166272
This, they're always obvious about it.

Doesn't this game have microtransactions?

>>719165717 (OP)
>Itsuno:
>*/v/ explodes in rage and anger*
fucking lmao
GOTY 2024, cry about it

>>719176834
Souls combat is shit and you lying about bow and arrow movesets won't change that.

>>719176834
>posts DS1 and DS3 for is retarded bow posts
>DS2 and ER have the only good bow gameplay in the series
This is how i know you're retarded.

>>719177246
>Tanimura shit
>good gameplay or any kind at all
lol

>>719165717 (OP)
I'm pretty sure everyone hated how poorly it ran.

>>719177429
Yes you disingenuous faggot, DS1 and DS3s bow gameplay sucks that bad that DS2 blows it out of the water.

>>719177209
>>719177246
It's cute that a normalfaggot like you thinks he has an opinion
Here's a lesson in game design
If a shooter has to move slowly to take aim that makes hima target, making the very act of aiming a tradeoff enforcing the player to think carefully
Hopefully Itsuno learns this for his next game

>>719177587
it works on my machine (ps5 base
model) and I had an absolute blast playing DD2 on release, personally.

>>719166239
99% of the praise comes from the dlc unironically

>>719177848
>Fromdrone calling anyone else a normalfag or pretending to know anything abiut game design
You guys really are like modern tendies.

>>719169703
My response is that the series is concluded. DMC5 was good. A fine ending to the series. I wish more series would have the grace and dignity to just end instead of being allowed to rot forever as a zombie franchise.. Sadly they will probably do it to DMC too. They will release another DMC that will have no Reuben. No Itsuno. Everything will look and feel so different that it might as well be DmC because it will be DMC in name only. Nobody judged DmC too harshly. It was trash. Capcom has a history of making the best hits and worst shits. As for Itsuno, he is just one man. Any game he ever made that was good was made by a team of great men, so any bad game he made probably didnt have those guys.

DD2's fine. I think it's weird that it got such a terrible reputation. It's just eurojank. It's got a reasonably sized open world with a reasonable amount of quests. It has good combat, a cool AI gimmick, and a trippy plot. I know people were "expecting" more, but what they got is completely fine to play through over a weekend or two. Just like the original, frankly.

>>719165717 (OP)
Did make a game that DD fans liked either though. The game wasnt bad but its such a dissapointment that it mightve just killed DD for good.

>>719165717 (OP)
>OP hates Nintendo
>has no reading comprehension
like pottery

>>719165717 (OP)
>i made a shitty game on purpose, i swear
and to think i used to like this dude
ego kills a lot of talented ppl

>>719165832
DELET THIS
unironically this though since I loved DD1 but hated the second one so fpbp feat /thread

>>719165832
KEKAROOOOOOO

>>719165832
To be fair, the ones who hated it were mostly DD:DA fans. Vanilla DD folks seem to enjoy it a lot; though they’re kind of an endangered species at this point lol

>>719177056
It's funny how DD2 caused such brain damage to the discord troons that they are still making threads about this.
>>719177587
It had massive frame drops at first, but only in cities, where you spend the least amount of time. There's still fram drops today, but way less than before. People who keep saying it run bad never actually played it. Like the ones who say it's a bad game.
>>719178675
I agree. DMCV ended pretty well and unless he left some talented jap to work on another one, they better leave as it is. Itsuno has a cursed history with Capcom, but even being constantly screwed by them he never made a bad game. I hope his new game is cool, even though i don't like sci-fi shit.

>>719178764
It got a bad reputation because we were promised DD but finished, not DD with a couple of cool new features and worse everything else.

>>719165717 (OP)
dissing on himself lol

>"I didn't make a game designed to be liked by everyone!"
>"I made a game designed to be liked by no one!"
BRAVO, SHITSUNO!!!!

>>719179230
No, you made that up in your heads. You were promised a bigger DD1, which you got.

>>719179151
I love base DD and while I also love DA, I think people pretending it made an ol game great are fucking idiots, and I was wildly disappointed by DD2.

>>719178764
>Just like the original, frankly.
That was butchered to shit because of budget constraints.
That's why people expected more. They went out of their way to make a perfectly mediocre sequel instead of improving upon the original.
And you do understand that capcom is an AAA developer right? Not some indie team that can't make anything other than eurojank?
It being about the quality of the first one is the problem.

Then of course you have the horrible performance on top of that because "fuck you, why don't you have a geforce 100090?"

>>719179230
well I personally had an absolute blast playing DD2

>>719165717 (OP)
Oooh Shitsuno the Potential Man, enlighten us! Oooh, just imagine how good his next chinese funded AAA game will be... finally his VISION won't be held back by Capcom!

>>719165717 (OP)
I'd much rather play Bananza over DD2

>>719179341
No, you stupid fucking piece of shit. They explicitly said their main inspiration was all the stuff they wanted to do in DD but couldn't, and we didn't get that at all. And no, it wasn't DD but bigger in any sense other than just map size.

>>719179365
Bro Itsuno has a legacy worthy of respect bro you dont like vidya man youre just a poser lmao

>>719166239
This way you don't get the loot from the enemy though, which is usually a BBI weapon lv2 or armor lv2 (the DLC really fucked this by making them lootboxes) but I don't see the problem in exploiting an opening the game gives you to make a fight easier. You can also knock Death off a bridge for tons of exp if you have the right setup. Being able to do that kind of stuff in adventure games is cool - like killing the gazer by using the many throwblasts conveniently placed in the safe room a little before him, even making a forgery of the king's special ring and handing him the fake leading to him being unable to open one chest later is super cool. Skills like Hindsight Slash getting more power if you actually time it with a dodge is sick every time and even that Mighty Bend in the webm you posted gets a further boost in power if you release the arrow right as the bar fills up! No other game makes you feel like a walking ballista, it's awesome

>>719179151
I played both vanilla and Dark Arisen. I did enjoy DD2, but I still felt a great deal of incompletelness from the game itself. A lot of the backlash came from three fronts: those who wanted DD2 to tap on the unexplored concepts in DD1, those who are still mad about the performance issues at launch and refuse to play the game now out of pure spite (e.g. penguinz0 and the indian guy) and the "this game is pay 2 win" hate mob that overexaggerated the mtx. Definitely an overhated game imo, and I'm still holding out for DLC if Itsuno is actually implying that Capcom intends to milk the hell out of it.

Why do we hate Dragon's Dogma 2? 10 Vocations only?

>>719165832
i liked it.

>>719179816
why would anyone in their right healthy and stable mind hate it bro the games an absolute blast

>>719179343
I liked DD2 till the moment it hard cuts out of content. For me it was when I was exploring and managed to get into battahl, only to realize that there was no quests there, and then carried on further to see there was nothing in the volcanic isles, and was seeing the same fucking enemies, and that everything interesting or engaging is in the first region of the game. I was genuinely enjoying myself till this realization hits, and then it all felt like I couldnt enjoy it any more, the magic just evaporated and I was now just trying to get from A to B, not explore, because there was nothing to explore for
>enter cave
>its 10 seconds deep, generic enemies inside
>open chest
>wakestone shard, completely useless item because the game has no difficulty options and is too easy, so you never die
I would come back in a heartbeat if they add some difficulties and randomized the spawns so you werent running into the same enemies over and over.

>>719179816
its just clearly half baked

>>719165717 (OP)
Yeah, he made it for nobody instead.

The sheer fact that DD2 still had retarded mechanics like pause menu healing and near infinite potions when those things were already a big critique of DD1 was the nail in the coffin.

>>719170595
>>719171442
>>719171549
>>719168315
>Eric lost this hard
Lmfao
Your inorganic samefagging couldn't do shit

Another little thing about how shit DD2 is that, because the combat is piss easy and enemies are constantly attacking you i.e. easy level up, they added an unblockable magnetised attack to all of the three enemy types just to take some health off.

>>719179365

The game wasn't for you. Go play Kirby or something more your speed.

>>719179816
The game isnt perfect but people acting like it is the worst game ever made are just retarded.
A lot of poorfags couldnt run it on their toasters so they review bombed the shit out of it.

>>719180038
Well I personally had an absolute blast playing DD2 , personally.

>>719165717 (OP)
PEOPLE DIDN'T LIKE IT BECAUSE IT DOESN'T FUCKING RUN YOU RETARDED JAP FAGGOT

BURN CAPCOM TO THE GROUND

>>719165717 (OP)
all this confirms is that DD2 haters were posers all along and running low-spec systems.

>>719180160
just get a ps5 bro it ran great on my machine (ps5 base model) trust me bro if youre pc cant run it this might be a good option bro

>>719165832
I liked DD2 but it was disappointing. At its core it still has what made DD fun, but it didn't tap into any of the potential of the series. It doesn't help that Itsuno was making these grand claims about how much better it was going to be.

>>719166239
WRONG

>>719179816
Because its worse than the original by every metric other than graphical detail

> “However, people who enjoyed the game really loved it, appreciated the details and work. I’m very proud of it.”
>people who enjoyed the game

Yo, that's me! he remembered.

Itsuno should never have been allowed to leave the DMC mines. DD2 was like hearing a rap artist trying to make a rock album

>>719179513
Nope, he is a lying rat.

>>719180382
this
both DD and DD2 are a blast simple as Itsuno san never made a bad game after all

>>719180092
The offeset to consumables and pause healing was weight, the problem however is that the game is not hard, so you are not going to use your healing items as often, so the moment something does go a bit wrong you are stacked withg healing items to fix it rather than if the game was harder you would be using them more and so have less of them.

>discord sending reinforcements after being BTFO'd extremely hard yesterday

kneel

>>719180038
correct! he even made it the final song of the game.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIR9rHn2hVQ

>>719180627
Prophetic song in hindsight.

>>719179505
It is DD but bigger, in map size.

>They explicitly said their main inspiration was all the stuff they wanted to do in DD but couldn't
First of all, they did do stuff in 2 that they didn't in 1. Second of all, again, you're making this up in your dumb fucking head.

>>719180627
No bro, you don't get it bro! This song was le epic foreshadowing for him getting fired- I mean leaving Capcom after owning them with his game about how sequels getting churned out endlessly is bad!!!

I think people do get hyperbolic about how bad DD2 was. It was hardly the worst thing out there. The problem is that it just fell short of what we all hoped it was going to be in almost every regard. Nothing really felt like a significant improvement over the first one either. It was almost as if they traveled to an alternate universe where they made a slightly different version of Dragon's Dogma, and then they remastered that game, and released it into our timeline.

>>719165717 (OP)
Yeah, he made a game disliked by everyone instead.

>>719179976
>wakestone shard, completely useless item because the game has no difficulty options and is too easy, so you never die

False, I died constantly from fall damage

>>719179151
>. Vanilla DD folks seem to enjoy it a lot
No, just no
Vanilla DD fags fucking hated how warrior got only 3 active skills while every other job got 6,
Why, would you think they'll love Itsuno's decision to limit all jobs to only 4 active skills?
Because assmongol said that it's dd but better?

>>719180627
>The stage sets for greatness
>With no audience to witness the cast take their place
>Raise the curtain
>And let the drama unfold
He literally put discord trannies in the song, I fucking kneel

>>719181039
The 4 active skills thing is something shitposters latched on to because it looks “””objective””” the addition of core skills made your moveset more interesting.
>inb4 “muh useless DD1 delayed attack strings”

>>719180852
Oh yeah you weren't one of the people caught up in the moment you could immediately tell that much of DD2's hate was clearly not in good faith.

>>719179976
But it's not like that's the end of the game. They "ran out of content" but you start encountering tons of new enemies and shit after that.

>>719181150
>people who love dd are shitposter
well, that's a new way to defend dd2, I guess...
Anyway, 6 active skills allowed you to have more very situational skills equiped, and use them for memorable experience from time to time. Literally very big charm point of game.
With 4 skills, you equip only ones that will work in any situation.
It's fucking literally same shit, as it was with warrior in first game.

How's DDO these days?

>>719181521
>allowed you to have more very situational skills equiped
name them

>>719165717 (OP)
It has everything required to be a top tier game, the problem is entirely the people designing the encounters, dungeons and gear progression.
If this game was handed over to someone actually talented we would be eating good. It’s the fate of many games sadly

>>719165717 (OP)
To that I would say: "Well sir, why didn't the game sell?"

This is a business, not a charity.

(I bought this shit on day 1, deluxe edition. I have every right to be salty at this guy)

Dragon's Dogma 2 sucked so much ass it completely deflated the obnoxious fanbase of the first game. It's hilarious how smug and pompous the "fans" of that dogshit were. Now they're far more humble.

>>719181639
Correct
>>719179669
You think the issue is loot and not that there's no logical hit reaction and you can endlessly juggle such enemy?

All they had to do was make a new story and bring over the classes, enemies and skills from DDO + add a few more. Make some interesting NPCs like DD1 and send us to the moon in the post game; bring Bz back for a new song and BAM instant success. Instead they remade DD1 with less of everything + no lolis and a shitton of nigger NPCs everywhere Holy shit so much DEI in DD2. Owell I had a blast (watching the shitshow and failure of it all)

>>719181925
Another culture war roach!
Back beneath the fridge.

>>719181897
And you'll never ever replay DD2 for the rest of your life?

>>719178337
It's ass, sorry

>>719180095
>muh Eric boogeyman
DEBOONKED

>>719182642
DD magic seems to apply an appropriate movement penalty tradeoff for its damage.

>>719166527
Shazam lost.

>>719171684
This, I can't believe anyone with half a brain would pay attention to his public statements after that PR tour.

>>719183561
Damn shame it's blatantly designed around ai taking the aggro

>>719182020
No, endlessly juggling enemies is a staple in Itsuno's games. Seems dumb to complain about it lol

>>719179151
No, that's just more shill cope. I played and loved the first game on release and DD2 is a massive disappointment.

>>719165717 (OP)
Itsuno you had 1 (one) job, and it was implementing loli pawns to DD2, but you fucked it up, you fucked it all up.

>>719184920
well I had an absolute blast, personally.

>>719185280
Based. This was when I knew Dragon's Smegma 2 was going to crash and burn

>>719165832
I liked it but the game was clearly unfinished. There are those underground doors that block off partially modeled areas, but we haven't gotten updates or dlc that added those areas back in

Itsuno is pretty based but DD2 is clearly heavily marred by huge amounts of cut content and being released like a good year before it really should've been.
I hope his next game is better. Loved DMC5 though.

>>719167823
>Star Gladiator
>Rival Schools
>Power Stone 2
>Rival Schools 2
>Capcom vs SNK 2
>Auto Modellista
>Devil May Cry 3
>Dragon's Dogma
>Devil May Cry 5
>"hack"
Can't hit it right every time, but undoubtedly not a hack.

>>719186218
>>Devil May Cry 3
Wasn't it the worst and most gay one?

>>719165832
>The sequel was supposed to be bigger and better
>It actually has less content

The first DD was a fluke.

>>719177056
What sort of brain disease causes a delusional nigger to type shit like this? Your game has no dlc nor expansions nor battlepass. Its fucking dead

Thats not an opinion its a fact and you type like some bizarre shit is happening. Shazam really mind raped you

>>719186218
>slop
>slop
>slop
>slop
>slop
>no idea what this is
>good
>decent
>slop
Hack.

>>719186218
This is just telling me he should make more fighting games. His hit to miss ratio on stylish action games is bad but his fighting games are mostly hits.

My schizo theory is DD2 was still a year and a half to two years from release but Capcom forced a launch to pad their quarterly earnings and create room for Monster Hunter Wilds.

>>719186673
That's 2. 3 is the most revered one

>>719187237
not really all that schizo when most of the game's problems are QA related

>>719165832
FPBP

>>719165832
fpbp

>>719168015
Me, I love dd1. Hate dd2. Shrimple as that

>>719165717 (OP)
What weird thing to say.

WE PURPOSELY DESIGNED IT BAD, AS A JOKE

>>719165832
Fpbp

>>719173172
>assets
which ones?
>animations
the walking/jumping is all I've seen, the actual combat animations you spend most of your time seeing were contracted to a korean studio, not taken from UE.

>>719187958
How shameless Kojima is

>>719179151
Disingenuous fart huffing neger
DD2 is unacceptable as a 12 years later sequel to DD1, the existence of DA simply adds salt to the injury, it's not the sole catalyst of the distaste
nogger

>discord bumping their own posts over and over
lol

>>719187237
No that is exactly why and because it only sold a few million they had to release Milds early to hit their 10 year growth goal. They are going to do the same thing in Q1 of 2026 with RE9, Pragmata and Onimusha.

>>719166239
>cheesing AI in dragons dogma bad

>>719177848
>cheesing AI in dark souls good
lol
Do you even think about the shit you post?

>>719182829
>being this ironic

>>719165832
UH SHITSUNOSISTERS? OUR RESPONSE????

>>719165832
brutal fpbp

>>719187378
>>719187237
Stop narrating such obvious lies, almost as pathetic as this fag >>719179151
Core of game design and director's decisions were flawed
Even 10 years more in development wouldn't fix shit like game director deciding to have only 4 active skills

>>719165717 (OP)
holy frickin based

>>719168259
>that webm
Could you be any more disingenuous? You posted a clip showing someone who fully memorized the fight and knows the exact timing to get a headshot on Manus. An average player would have a horrible time playing through the game with only a bow as they have a long draw time, do shit damage compared to your average melee weapon, can only hit a single target and can't be used with a shield

Using a bow in Souls games is a challenge run. The bow in Dragon's Dogma is a core part of multiple classes, and has multiple abilities with different properties beyond just shoot basic arrow (and press L2 to shoot slightly stronger arrow in the case of DaS3 and ER)

>>719180815
Wrong on both accounts. Look at their GDC slides about all they had planned for DD1 before you reply to me again with your blinding ignorance and worthless retard handwaving.

>>719165832
fippybippy
Shitsuno's vision BTFO

>>719165717 (OP)
He also didn't make a Dragon Dogma game.

>>719180627
>It's not even half as good as
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcoLNTG1tTo
Bravo Hacktsuno
>>719186775
Considering that track record, is Itsuno more of a hack when you compare his track record to Ono and Inafune's?

>>719172775
OP here. Didn't I mention I'm a cute girl and I love to suck cock?

>>719189213
I mean I had fun with it, I had no problem with the combat (aside from some classes being a tad wonky)
seems more like a (you) problem

my main issues were shoddy performance, broken quests, retarded enemy placement/diversity and a serious lack of true dungeons
these things can all easily be fixed in post production with enough time

Based

>tendies and fromdrones seething in the same thread
pure cancer

>>719165832
The sequel is ass, but it's clear the devs had issues with the technical limitations of the engine. Maybe DD3 will be good.

>>719165717 (OP)
>releases a titanic flop which sinks his career
>starts seething about Nintendo out of nowhere like a hack
It's unironically over.

>>719190052
If you read in between lines, he admitted he created a flop.

>>719165717 (OP)
Usually you only have that sort of pride if you try something different miss. Bro made a game so tepid and by the book that people get bored even talking shit about it.

>>719165832
I enjoyed it I guess... but it was obviously dumbed down and destroyed. It even got infested with furries.

>>719165832
fpbp

>>719165832
I'm not gonna sugarcoat it, I only played/like DD1 because of the loli pawn.

>>719165717 (OP)
How is this a diss on Nintendo? He is saying that Nintendo games are liked by everyone, unlike DD2, so this comes out more as a compliment.

I thought 2 was good overall and I still want the series to continue with 3. And yes, I was a DD fan since the beginning, I remember following the news up until release. I played the PS3 version and eventually bought the game a second time when the Dark Arisen expansion released. Anyways, here's my thoughts on 2.

Good
>mystic spearhand was fun as hell, easily one of my favorite vocations across both games
>expanding on the grab mechanic by letting you pin down smaller foes was a great addition
>thief was also extremely fun, pinning a small enemy then planting a bomb directly on them was extremely satisfying
>strong attack finishers was a good addition
>open world was designed well
>I thought the armor design was better overall despite not being as freely customizable
>combat was more weighty and closer to Monster Hunter than in DD, but still was great overall
>Dullahan were great
>Enemy variants were actually pretty good

Bad
>no big dungeons, this is my biggest issue
>unmoored world was cool as fuck, but desperately needed a big dungeon and no time limit
>not enough new vocations, warfarer should not be a class but instead a default mechanic for all vocations (subclassing, you get two weapons/vocations, 8 skills total)
>story was bad but I don't play DD for story so that was a non-issue for me
>height/chest sliders didn't' go low enough for females
>trickster was a neat idea, but it really needed a way to do some damage directly
>pawn system needs a more elaborate way to command them
>there needed to be a way to forge all equipment up to end-game level and also forge vocations compatibility onto gear
>I didn't like towns not being complete safe zones
>Important NPCs could die too easily and should really just be given immunity
>EXP should be a resource that you spend manually to level, to prevent accidentally over-leveling yourself while traveling back and forth
>No real NG+ or hard mode
>the game needs a quick "get up" action after being knocked down

>>719190490
Please understand. snoys are barely able to read due to their Indian upbringing.

dont mind me bros just personally having an absolute blast with Itsunos masterpiece

>>719190490
>nintendo
>liked by everybody
But this is false, every single game is made with a demographic in mind.

>ctrl+f "blast"
>15 results
I expected more, you guys are getting rusty

>>719165832
fippy bippy

>>719165832
Put me in the screencap, pham.

>>719191034
and nintendo's demographic is 'everyone'
their reach is pretty much all-encompassing, in terms of age-range

>>719166239
DD1 was basically the demo for a proper game, they used the excuse that they didn't have the budget to develop it properly, that's ok, it was a fun game with some issues, DD2 didn't have that excuse and on top they had the experience from the first one, it just became apparent they are incompetent devs.

>>719166239
There are certain games that /v/ glazes because it hits the hipster goldilocks zone. DD1 was the go-to game to say you liked, if you were sperging out about Souls games, or whatever.

>>719191341
Blasters have moved onto Milds threads, myself included. No longer am I have a DD2 blast.

>>719191341
DD2 is a very niche game bro
Itsuno San himself said he didnt make it for every normie fag out there so its understandable if you cant grasp what others including myself personally are blasting about

>>719193441
Hard to believe when they made the game so easy

>>719193875
see, your not worthy to understand the blast.
maybe in half a decade you will once your favorite fagtuber tells you”aktually eeer it was a blast all along”

>>719194230
Look man I like the game but it ends right as the difficulty ramped up to the lower end of medium. Unmoored world was fun but there was fuckall to fight except for dullahan, some drakes and a few suped up ogres. The underground doors staying locked ruined my enthusiasm. I stopped having a blast soon after.

>>719165832
You rang, sir?

>>719194839
nah bro youre crazy man it was a blast from beginning to the end bro so much so I started the game again for all trophies it was a blast bro

Nintencultists didn't like being told their slop is the current day EA complete with the nickel and diming, huh?

You can tell how mad he is.

>>719165717 (OP)
He just made the same game again but with
>Furry race
>No hybrid classes
>One cool new vocation, one conceptually cool but boring as shit to play new vocation
>A even less interesting story then the first game story

>>719195650
More like broken, wait 12 years for a sidegrade at best.

>>719166239
1 to me was great ideas with not enough time in the oven to figure it all out. I was interested in 2 because my hope was it was going to address the issues with the original.
It didn't.

>>719165717 (OP)
>>719165832
this nigger can go fuck himself. why bother blue balling the fan base for over 12 years just to release such mediocre slop? and this is without taking into consideration the horrible RPG "mechanics" and abysmal performance. I have NOTHING but disdain for this nigger

>>719166239
this looks fun

>>719165717 (OP)
I legitimately don't understand why they have that mechanic to climb on the monsters but don't let you climb on the environments like in say Breath of the Wild.

>>719165832
>The post that killed Shitsuno and his troon cult

>>719193441
>Itsuno San himself said he didnt make it for every normie fag out there
That's the big standard you should do. Mass appealing to everyone is how you get ubislop games.
That doesn't mean the end product delivered what people wanted though, which was to take what worked with Dragons Dogma and improve on it. Itsuno didn't do that.

I hate having to look at animal niggas faces, nasty shit, furries a fuck kill em all

>>719195718
>Furry race
That's cool
>No hybrid classes
Well, the warfarer is a hybrid class that you can customize
>One cool new vocation, one conceptually cool but boring as shit to play new vocation
Yeah, trickster is very specific and pawn focused. I main red classes so it was borings as shit to me
>A even less interesting story then the first game story
I thought the twist was cool. Instead of getting to fight a bored god to take his place we fought one who really liked his job and lost to the indominable human spirit.

>>719196153
What is the name of this mental disorder?

Did 2 even sell that well?

>>719196331
enough for capcom to pay youtubers to shill for them

>>719180815
They did only some of it, and not a lot of you look over the old shit they planned for 1.

>>719166239
There is not a single Souls game (including Elden Ring) with good combat, and you're an absolute fucking retard who knows less than nothing about combat mechanics or enemy design.

>>719195718
If he made the same game but with DD2's combat mechanic improvements, I'd have been thrilled. That's not what we got.

>Can still remember Madeliene, Mercedes, Julien and Mason from 1
>Only character I remember in 2 is the one nigger in the capital and the whorehouse owner

>>719196331
It did well the first two weeks and then no more. Since shareholders only give a shit about opening week, that was enough.

>>719195718
I ended up dropping the censer as trickster when leveling it up and starting punching enemies.
Trickster is a neat idea but Jesus it's boring as shit. I did like it made me really enjoy playing as a sword and board guy. Fighter, Mystic Spearhand and Archer were the most fun I had. Rogue just deletes enemies too fast to enjoy imo.

>>719179151
>Vanilla DD folks
This guy shows up in ever DD2 thread to bring this up as if it's a sound argument for DD2 being a disappointment.

>>719196689
It really is bizarre that despite 1 having a paper thin story and okay at best cast, they still run circles over the cast in 2.
The main saving grace 2 has over one is it doesn't have a dumb cunt princess who gets you whipped. But then you have shit like the furries are completely fucking irrelevant to the story.

Am I really the only anon who thought playing Trickster was fun?

>>719165932
lol the sad fact is he fucked up on Dragon's Dogma 2 because Capcom pushed him to release something quickly in two years. It bombed and now he is just like "HEY BRO I KNOW ITS UNRELEASED GARBAGE BUT I DID NOT MAKE IT TO WHERE EVERYONE COULD LIKE IT"

>>719197048
yes in the 300 retards who enjoyed DD. you are the only one who enjoyed

>>719196689
>>719197040
The game was just way too bloated for the amount of content that it offered. That fucked up the pacing and made remembering (or even caring about) one-dimensional NPCs significantly less meaningful. FFXII has the same problem.

>>719165717 (OP)
I still prefer DD1

>>719165717 (OP)
>i-i didn't want to make a good game anyway!
lmao the cope levels are off the charts

>>719172858
Kamiya at least makes finished games and doesn't compromise his visions.

>>719197425
who would want to play DDDA when DD2 has a more alive multiplayer haha

>>719165832
>>719165932
based
fuck every single shitskin crapcum shill and bootlicker for hyping up this pozzed dogshit for normalniggers
game still runs like ass btw

>I made the game not like a Nintendo one to be liked by all the people, but for a certain type of audience
>Do you want a GOOD game? Play Nintendo, my fans like shit
What the fuck is he on about

>>719197678
I'm assuming he's trying to say he didn't try and make a game that every fag would enjoy, like say what Ubisoft tries to do since that's an easy way to make something trash, appealing the the lowest common denominator.
The problem is his game that isn't for everyone isn't good for the people who would want it.

>>719197217
Trickster was fun, though. Buffing pawns and watching them struggle to kill things was neat.

>>719165717 (OP)
>Washed up hack that stumbled on THREE different dream projects he had in a row after crapcom gave him a blank check for each is trying to whine about nintendo.

>>719196427
Filtered

>>719165717 (OP)
based, true fans loved the game.
dirty secondaries got filtered.

I never bothered to play it. Did DD2 at least have a noteworthy soundtrack?

What I don't get is how a developer like Itsuno can work on multiple projects that have all had issues of being unfinished (DD1, DMC4, DD2) and not fix that. Is he just terrible at managing scope? Scope doesn't seem to be an issue with other similar devs like Kamiya, say what you will about his games but no Kamiya game feels unfinished.

>>719197951
>blank check

>>719198341
No, it was generic.

>>719165832
OUCH!!

>>719198341
Downgrade all around. They included the dd1 ost so you could swap to it at least.

>>719198016
It was a sad day when shitskin children raped this word of all meaning.

>>719165832
POTENTIAL MAN BROS....

>>719165832
OH NONONONONONONONOOOOOOO GODSUNOSISTERS

>>719165717 (OP)
>to be fair you need to have a very high IQ to like my game

>>719165717 (OP)
Disses? Literally says Nintendo makes better games that everyone likes.

>>719165832
Ror

>>719166239
You can tell this is correct from how it assblasted the whole thread

>>719195884
Won't everybody just be sneezing around him lol

>>719169227
MH is objectively more difficult and the better game series lmao
That and MHfags don't actually bitch online 24/7 about how they want to get taken seriously as hardcore gamers that play the most difficult games unlike Soulsniggers that make it their entire personalities

>>719199174
You literally think games are good based on popularity.
You just told everyone you think "lowest common denominator" games have actual quality.
You're fucking stupid.

>>719165832
Exactly, all we wanted was more of 1, didnt even deliver on that.

>>719165832
This. Death to Itsuno, preferably from a car accident.

When did /v/ start thinking games that appeal to the majority (normalfags) are actually good? When has that ever been true? Souls games maybe for a while until they started getting bad.

>>719199417
Everyone includes you. You like the games too.

>>719165832
fippy bippy
OP BTFO

>>719199663
What are you trying to say, ESL?

>>719199409
>MH is objectively more difficult
Nope lol
>and the better game series lmao
Not even close

>Itsuno admits that he made a shit game
>LOL NINTENDO BTFO
What did the snoy crackhead mean by this?

>>719165832
Hidehacki Shitsuno should kill himself, as should the delusional retards who still defend his dogshit games.

>>719199663
>When did /v/ start thinking games that appeal to the majority (normalfags) are actually good?
There are people here who think Ocarina of Time, Halo, FFX, Skyrim, The Witcher 3, RDR2 and Cyberpunk are among the best games ever.

>>719198341

Honestly? Nope. I can think of a ton of DD1 tracks - Imminent Triumph, Coils of Light, Selection of Fate, and obviously THE WIND IS PUSHING MEEE.

Nothing really sticks out from DD2 after I played it. There were some tracks that I went "Neat, I guess", but none that really stuck out.

>>719165832
HOLY SHIT KEK

>>719199663
They never started getting bad.

>xe's still samefagging
say cheese for the epic screencap sister

>>719200525
Hi Sphere Tranny

>>719165832
I wanted to buy it, but
>No immolation
Not being able to run the demo was a blessing in disguise

the game probably would have gone over better had it not ran like absolute shit.

>>719166239
the warrior should do 20 flip jumps that end in a shockwave generated by the laser that comes out his butt while the player spams the dodge roll button

>>719196908
every*

Probably not true, I'm a Nintendo fan and Itsuno follows me on twitter.
He will be missed in Capcom, dude made the best 2D street fighter series and Rival Schools, also saved DMC.

>screencap gets posted
>samefagging suddenly stops
>thread dies
REALLY makes you think