Thread 719210050

devs expose Nintendo, they are scamming consumers

https://www.ign.com/articles/nintendo-reportedly-almost-discouraging-switch-2-development-as-studios-told-to-launch-games-on-switch-1-and-rely-on-backwards-compatibility-instead

>Giving dev kits to indies and smaller devs while fucking over AAA devs who just want the switch 2 devkits so they can be lazier with optimizing their games
Seems based to me.

>>719210050 (OP)
I won't take this seriously until they list what studios were denied Switch 2 kits

nintendo seal of quality stopped mattering since nintendo wii. it used to be nintendo rejected third party slop but now they just allow it.

>>719210162
>they can be lazier with optimizing their games

You mean just... making Switch 2 games, instead of Switch 1 games in makeup?

>>719210050 (OP)
Telling them to release on the console everyone already has so that they don't have to buy new hardware for no reason is pro consumer. Devs are the ones trying to fuck consumers over with hardware requirements.

>>719210281
why is it all ai slop
surely no one buys this shit right

>>719210971
>Devs are the ones trying to fuck consumers over with hardware requirements.

What if you just want to make a Switch 2 game? You know. The console Nintendo released.

>>719211070
Then you would be forcing millions of people to buy unnecessary hardware just to play your game fucking over all of them.

>>719211238
So why did Nintendo release a Switch 2?

>reportedly
after the shit these "journalists" have been pulling, I'm not believing a thing until proof is posted.

>>719210050 (OP)
>devs continue releasing new games on switch1
>I can keep pirating them
Sounds like a win to me

>>719211294
they were facing pressure from all sides, investors, gamers, third parties, hell, even their own games were struggling to run on the switch 1, you just know they wanted to keep milking the switch 1 for as long as possible but sales had slowed to a crawl, it was like trying to draw blood from a stone with investors breathing down their necks at the same time

>>719210050 (OP)
>people actually paypigged for the shitch 2
Lol, lmao

>>719214372
Furukawa's blood-from-a-stone maximalism is going to bite Nintendo hard in the ass in the next few years. Especially if the next general Direct doesn't deliver and/or doesn't happen for a while. While things are not quite at a tipping point yet, the playstyle hostility and lack of unique engaging content in MK World (which NEEDS to be an evergreen game), alongside the past two showcases being filler multiplat showcases that don't help justify a Switch 2 purchase, are being noted by people.

>He's so mad he made yet another thread
Okay, taking bets on what's the next bad news that Sony will receive. He always does this.

You want to know what is really a disaster, just finding out that only the next gen in-house Xbox home console using the Magnus APU will be their only device with BC while their OEMs using Magnus won't. This Xbox will cost $1200 and only be sold on their Microsoft Store website. Xbox is dead, lol.

>instead of talking about the topic of this thread, tendies now start talking about random schizos
Nintendo is obviously fucking retarded when it comes to 3rd party developers and anyone who has had to work with them will tell you this. They dont care because they dont have to care. Developers will come to them on their knees begging to understand what to do even when they are literally being shit on by nintendo instead of just not putting games on the bing bing wahoo slop machine.

>>719216026
>believeing any rumor that's basically just "LOL TRUST ME BRO"

>>719215578
i really doubt it, the big two home consoles made people get used to a game or two per console generation, nintendo's approach to a game a month feels like absurd abundance of stuff to play in comparison

>>719210050 (OP)
so IGN sold digital foundry to richard for a small fortune and now they're straight up ripping entire news articles from their podcast and snaking them via SEO. dirty dogs

>>719215817
the caco has been uncannily consistent with his preemptive spergouts
last week when this happened we had the full humiliation conga line which included bungie's CEO doing a golden parachute, marathon being fucked, hoyoslop pulling out of the kikestation, and snoy having to sell evo to literal pajeets

>>719210050 (OP)
i hope the unnamed AAA developer is the call of duty guys because of that promise they made to launch call of duty on nintendo hardware

What's wrong with that? If they are good developers and make their game for sw1 they will get a way bigger playerbase and get sw2 boost of resolution/framerate but they are probably lazy fucks who don't want to optimize for sw1

>>719210050 (OP)
Total AAA death

>>719216768
>"just" keep paring down your games that are mainly designed for PS5s to run on the equivalent of a souped-up Xbox 360
>it's soooooo easy

>>719217448
>optimizing games is le bad, won't someone think of the modern pajeet devs?
i would give a shit if games actually looked like they need that much power, but they don't

>>719217625
>I expect you to support the equivalent of 20-year-old hardware forever

>>719217987
When said 20 year old games look better than current games? Yes.

>>719217448
If you designed them to run well on the ps5 and not barely scrape 30 fps at 720p it wouldn't be an issue either way. So yes, make that shit run on the switch.

>>719218126
Okay. What's your pipeline for optimizing a PS5 level game for the PS3 with extra RAM? Go ahead. Tell us.

>>719218694
nta but thats not my job, devs are getting paid to do that sort of shit, it's their problem

>>719216026
where are the sources
what specific developers have been denied a devkit
surely you can answer these questions since you made this thread

>>719211294
Piracy was becoming an issue on S1

>>719210050 (OP)
>>719216026
Artdink recently announced a Switch 2 version of their A-Train game, same with Nihon Falcom for the upcoming Trails in the Sky remake, or even this spanish studio of 3 people for their Anima gate of memories 1&2 remaster (which doesn't have a Switch 1 version btw)
I'm bound to believe this is another ragebait article that we've been feed non-stop about Nintendo and the Switch 2 for months

>>719213562
Yes

Remember, journos are subhumans. Always

>>719219603
It was a consistent issue since it launched, and yet ironically enough switches are harder to jailbreak than PS4s and PS5s, given you need a modchip for the former (unless you want to pay up the ass for a v1 model) but you can simply softmod kikestations through the in-console browser or a BD you can buy for peanuts.

>>719219212
They did figure it out: they came to the conclusion that it's simply not worth the time and money to specially whittle games down by two entire generations worth of fidelity. Deal with it.

>>719211070
Can you promise that your game will support 4k resolutions, the camera, mouse mode and/or 120fps?

That's the factor that Nintendo demands. If you can promise at least one of these two display modes and one of these features you will get a dev kit. If you can't then you don't... you may as well just publish on Switch 1 then.

Most likely they don't want year 1 to just be "ports of later PS4 games" and actually would rather have fewer games but then games that actually use the features beyond just better graphics.

>>719219882
have fun going bankrupt then lol

>>719219909
Mario Kart World (the flagship launch game) doesn't support 120fps, 4k, mouse mode, OR in game camera features lmao.

>>719219909
>Source: it came to me in a dream

>>719219882
Graphics have barely moved in 2 gens. You act like it's a big deal.

>>719220207
They have moved. You're just blind, and dismiss the ways they have moved as "memes" that "don't count".

>>719220708
They are memes that don't make the image better, but do cause blur, artifacting, smearing, light sources having a fucking delay before they react fully pretending to be realistic, all while pushing resolution down to ps2 levels making them look worse than the previous gen. Honestly, calling them memes would be a compliment for how bad they are.

>>719220069
"4k" technically includes 1440p and it runs at 1440p/60.

Also it DOES support the camera. DK Bananza supports the mouse in that coop and that sculpting mode.

Essentially one of the display modes that you need to have are 1080p/120fps, 1440p/60fps or 2160p/30fps.

>>719220987
>actually 1440p counts as 4k because I said so!!!
>B-b-but Bananza!!!

>>719221068
What's Bananza's resolution and frame rate on PS5 and PC?

>>719221379
Forget Bananza, PS5 can barely run MGS3 without shitting itself.

>>719221424
no anon, not the pis5, the pis5 PRO can barely run it without soiling and melting itself

>>719216026
>no one mentions resident schizo until this post >>719215817
>clearly not a tendie
>calls him one anyway
Hmm...

>>719219882
>>719220708
I'd argue graphics in recent big-budget games have gotten worse because they essentially threw away artstyle over graphic fidelity.
The OG MGS3 on PS2 is still a beautiful game to this day because said artstyle made it age like fine wine while I'm not impressed at all by the remake.

>>719210050 (OP)
how will nintendies make this the devs fault because we all know nintendo is never wrong or to blame

>open comment box
>type Eric
>leave thread
>don't read anything

is it just me or is nintendo easily the worst company in the entire industry?

all this bitching and shit flinging about sony and xbox and pc and whatever, and the whole time, nintendo has been the most absolute unapologetically dog shit anti-consumer company out of all of them, but i guess they get a pass because muh heckin marios or whatever

>>719222079
Journo propaganda

>>719222079
Nah, Nintendo are greedy fucks but they are nowhete near the literal rape and murder factories that exists within the western AAA sphere.

>>719222079
>He says as Sony raises the prices of the PS5 to $800 with the promise that they'll raise them again out of sheer greed

>>719222079
>and the whole time, nintendo has been the most absolute unapologetically dog shit anti-consumer company out of all of them
That would be valve, who deserve far worse scrutiny off the single fact they were the first ones to add lootboxes to a paid game (csgo wasn't free when they added that shit) and the rest of the industry followed.
And mind you that's just the top of the iceberg of bullshit valve has done.

>>719222517
it's true, valve is much worse than that company that will sue you into the dirt if you as much as put Mario on a child's birthday cake, that's why Half Life and the Source Engine never got any spinoffs at all and I have to pay $10 a month to have a steam account lest all my games and account get deleted.

I bet Eric's behind this.

>>719222828
reminder valve invented mod DRM and constantly goes full glassed earth on workshop rehost sites harder than nintendo does to rom sites lol

>>719222079
Nintendo is like Valve, they may be a corporation at times, but they're all about video games from the ground up, everyone loves working there in Japan like everyone loves working at Valve here in America. They care about video games and they know what their fans want. Sony and Microsoft don't care about gaming at all and only got in because it was becoming popular. They wanted to remove the stigma of gaming being for kids and nerds and turn it into the garbage it is today while spitting in their fans face. Anyone who defends the PlayStation and Xbox currently, everyone knows they're getting paid on the clock.

>>719222379
>Moore's Law Is Dead (MLID) actually believes the PS6 will be the same price as the base PS5 currently and the PS6 handheld will be the same price as the Switch 2 or lower
Snoyroaches are a whole new kind of stupid

>>719210971
>and that's a good thing!

>>719222897
You're trying too hard

>>719224735
Damn straight.

>>719210050 (OP)
Controversy marketing thread

>>719222079
>>719222517
Ever notice how people are trying to cause a war between Nintendofags and pcfags?

>>719224794
Where am I trying? PlayStation and Xbox are the worst.

>>719210050 (OP)
Just let it go, it's over.

>>719210050 (OP)
Where's the scam?

I put a switch 2 in my basket last night but i didnt buy it
maybe ill buy it today

>1440p counts as 4k!!!!
>anyways what about the PS5 and PC?????
KEK

>>719210050 (OP)
Isn't this basically what Microsoft already does with the series s?

>>719225957
nintendo is scamming those poor innocent giant third party devs by trying to discourage them from releasing games on both switches so they can try rip off customers

>>719210050 (OP)
>multiple people citing "reports"
>not one, not one single source report given
>no names
>no people coming forwards
>just multiple eceleb toobers and sensationalim sites posting "reports"

why do people just make shit up an-
no, better yet, why do YOU people fall for it every. time?

>>719210859
nintendo doesnt give the seal to slop, though?
like you cant find that seal on any of these >>719210281 games

>>719210281
Those games don't require a dev kit because they're just images

>>719225931
2 months from now:
>Switch 2 Sales in the US Are Outpacing The Original Console by 50%
4 months from now:
>Switch 2 Sales in the US Are Outpacing The Original Console by 30%
6 months from now:
>Switch 2 Sales in the US Are Outpacing The Original Console by 10%
1 year from now:
uh oh

>>719210050 (OP)
>Campfire simulator

Holy LMAO. AAA shitslop makers SEETHING, while based Nintendo encourages proper games, including, but not limited to, Stallion simulator, What if Zelda was a girl simulator, Homeless junkie simulator and ballbusting simulator!

>>719210050 (OP)
>scamming consumers

How? If they release a Switch 1 version you know you're buying a Switch 1 game that runs on backwards compatibility. Every Switch 2-specific title has the Switch 2 banner on it in the eshop.

>>719211070
There's backwards compatibility. The point is that those AAA shitslop studios want to release the same game for two Switches. Instead, Nintendo tells them to release it on Switch and allow the players to play it on Switch 2, while paying only once for the game. There's no reason AAA studios needing more processing power, unless they want to release unoptimized UE5 slop. Meanwhile, if they have to develop it for Switch, they'll have to optimize it so that it runs well on both consoles, instead of running like shit on both for double the price.

>>719211070
The hardware is out. Devkits aren't a requirement

Lmao the board is filled with favela seethe threads, what kind of bad news will hit Sony this week?

>>719227539
So you're essentially saying people shouldn't make Switch 2 games. Just continue to make Switch 1 games forever? What if you want to specifically just make a game for the new console that Nintendo dared to release? Why is that a problem?

>>719210050 (OP)
How come Switch 2 is selling when Nintendo is outright obstructing game development?

>>719227693
>We have a product for studios that can't access the Switch 2 devkit, it's called Switch 2"
ftfy

>>719210050 (OP)
This is good for piracy tho. If the ddevs are forced to program for S1 and put hidden S2 modes that means you will be able to use existing S1 emulators and just enable the hidden graphical modes.

>>719222517
CSGO wasn't the first Valve game with an on game economy, Mannconomy in TF2 released years before CSGO even existed
It wasn't even the first game with that mechanic playable outside of Asia, that was Maple Story

>>719227738
It's a cult much like apple. I would even say it's worse than apple.

>>719210050 (OP)
Kek
Yfw you didn't boughted a switch 2

>>719227735
nta but i also agree
there's nothing they have done that couldn't be done on switch or even a ps2 hardware aside from muh gwaphix
westoid game depth is just that bad and shallow

>>719227839
>westoid

>>719227839
So why release a Switch 2? What am I missing here? Nintendo released a new console. People want to make games for the new console. They tell people to make games for the old console. Okay? Cool. Why'd you release a new console?

>>719227936
uhh so you can enjoy mouse mode and the webcam of course

See you in the famitsu thread :)

>>719210971
Anon, the Switch is now 8 years old and devs struggled porting shit to it a couple years in. I dont get how you people defend EVERYTHING Nintendo does.

>>719227936
to play switch 1 games at 60 fps, duh
are you so stupid you cant understand something that simple?

>>719228145
Most Switch 1 games are unpatched. They still run at 720p30 in handheld mode, if you're lucky.

>>719228145
What if a developer doesn't want to make a Switch 1 game?

>>719228116
There are people in this thread that will tell you that everything that has been ported to the switch 1 runs fine. These awful bastards will tell you bloodstained is playable on the switch, it's absolutely insane.

>>719227936
Nintendo does nothing wrong, schizo

>>719228145
Is that why you have to pay extra for the enhanced versions of switch 1 games for switch 2?

>>719228196
>These awful bastards will tell you bloodstained is playable on the switch, it's absolutely insane.
Didn't that shit release on the vita?

>>719228145
Devs have to pay nintendo to be able to release S2 performance patches.

The funny thing is once devs stop porting newer games to Switch 2 because they cant be bothered to port games to Switch 1 tendies will think this is some grand conspiracy against their corpo masters

>>719228269
So? Pay up goyim.

>>719228193
See >>719227754

>>719228245
It didn't, but it made me realize that some people have the lowest standards there can possibly be to call something like that port "playable". I got a modded switch and one of the things I really wanted from it was portable bloodstained, and all I got was almost 30fps locked, heavy input lag, and internal resolution set to 40% of what it's supposed to be. This was 2 years ago, not at release. After many many patches. People actually go and pay for this shit. Having a modded switch gives you a good perspective on how bad some ports on the switch are and I tried quite a few.

>>719228528
I don't consider unmodded switches usable. Overclocking is a necessity to get most games playable. Mission Control is pretty important as well.

Everyone 18+ outside Japan that still cares about Nintendo is either a cuck, a roastie or a dumb tr00n.

>>719210050 (OP)
I have a question as someone who has developed mobile apps but never console stuff. How can they test it? If you make a game for Switch 1 intending to release it for Switch 2 too, how can you test it without a dev kit? You need to hack a Switch 2 to test it? Is there a development emulator? Or you're supposed to think "if it works on 1 it'll work on 2"?

>>719228528
the steam survey shows most people have shitbox PCs
they also never seem to complain about dogshit performance on a pis5
why is bad performance on unoptimized games on a portable console suddenly an issue?

>>719228702
Shitbox PCs don't choke playing Bloodstained.

>>719210050 (OP)
Story sounds fishy and clickbaity, but it’s obvious there are problems with Switch2. They stopped reporting sales after the second week and appear to have nothing interesting coming down the pipe besides Prime4, which is a Switch1 game. Everyone knows they rushed it out the door, but it’s still baffling to me that they don’t have one heavy hitter like Smash ready. The last one is seven years old.

What's more likely, Nintendo isn't giving devs devkits, or publishers aren't rushing to commit money to make ports for a system with 6-8 mil installbase?

>>719228867
Both are plausible desu. Nintendo forcing gimmick shit down our throats is not uncommon.

>>719228782
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1aFJMis71E
I wouldn't call 720p and still barely getting a unstable 50-60fps to be "not choking".
Sounds like iga had to do more optimizing for the switch then.

>>719228998
>all epic settings

>>719210050 (OP)
I bought a Nintendo to play Nintendo games. Why the fuck would I play a 3rd party title on a switch instead of my computer? You gaymers are retards

>>719229060
It's a metroidvania, the fact it doesn't run at 4k on a portable is dogshit optimization.

>>719229107
Nintendo consoles used to have excellent third party exclusives from developers like Capcom, Konami, Squeenix and Atlus.

>>719229107
Ask vanillaware.
Still waiting for the PC release of all their games

>>719229167
I am quite sure you can download artbook PDFs on your desktop.

I did some digging and found out that the only Switch 2 games actually using DLSS so far are Cyberpunk and Fast Fusion. The other ports don’t have it because Nintendo hasn’t even implemented DLSS functionality in their dev kits yet. What’s the fucking point of making hardware that supports DLSS if they’re not going to use it? No wonder why so many third party games run like shit.

>>719229146
That was 40 years ago.

>>719210050 (OP)
That makes sense. If you're an indie developer making games that run on the Switch 1 and Switch 2, you might as well make them for the Switch 1 first.

>>719229228
I didn't realise the 3DS came out 40 years ago.

>Our new console costs a million bucks
A few months later
>BTW all of our new games will go to the console you already owned LOL thanks for the money retard!
/v/eddit thinks this is a pro consumer move...

>>719228702
It's not expected for the anemic hardware on the switch 1 to handle 3d game ports all that well. But you'll talk to people in these threads and they will tell you proudly that it does, and it just fucking doesn't. It extends to first party games. Why shouldn't the Switch be able to handle the TTYD remake at 60fps? Why does funkopop zelda go from 60 to 30, and then to 60, and then to 30 and 60 with nothing in between most of the fucking game?
>they also never seem to complain about dogshit performance on a pis5
Oh no, they never complain about it, not even right now with Delta, no waaay.

>>719229107
why would i give valve money when they are goyim happily spreading their asscheeks to be fucked by zionist circumcised cock instead of helping gamers? especially when i could just buy switch 2 games on the jp eshop for 55 bucks at launch because digital in japan is actually cheaper than physical?

>>719229226
DLSS in Fast Fusion is pretty awful so I'm kinda glad. The Pure update was sorely needed and I fear that most games won't have that option.

>>719229270
The funny thing is most people probably thought this is going to be a stronger console, but it can't even run elden ring properly

>>719229146
>Konami
They still get decent support from konami funnily enough.

>>719229251
3DS is older than some of the posters here.

>>719229342
elden ran fine on the ps4, what the fuck went wrong

>>719229280
>>It's not expected for the anemic hardware on the switch 1 to handle 3d game ports all that well.
The switch 1 runs motherfucking BOTW.
A fucking metroidvania has no excuse.
>Oh no, they never complain about it, not even right now with Delta, no waaay.
Bad example when snoys are in fact defending the pro somehow getting less performance than the base PS5.

>>719229342
Elden ring is notorious for running like shit on all platforms though, its not really a good example.

>>719229251
>enshitified versions of MH
>excellent third party exclusives
Seek help.

>>719229458
But enough about Rise.

>>719229374
wait then how the fuck does it run so badly on my PS5? It goes sub 30fps all the times in some areas in SOTE.

>>719228998
>>719229060
I don't know why he can't run it at more than 60. I tried it 2 months ago at 90 locked (with mangohud that is) with settings maxed out and with the low input lag setting mode on.
Point is that is 10 times more playable than on the switch.

>>719227834
>didn't boughted
Retard, it's havedn't buyed.

>>719229407
So it's a problem that the snoys defend hardware running games like shit but not a problem that the nintenbros defend their hardware running games like shit?

>>719229642
probably because the switch 1 is portable and ancient while the pis5 gets advertised as the strongest home console evar and costs twice as much as a switch 1

>>719229313
It’s still very dumb of them DLSS would at least help every game run above 30fps if that’s really their target standard. But with games like Elden Ring running so poorly, people are mocking the Switch for being a hardware toaster again even though it’s not even using its full capabilities. This is probably proof that the Switch 2 was rushed out before Nintendo was ready to let third party devs use DLSS properly. They shot themselves in the foot here.

>>719210050 (OP)
>at least one AAA developer
So, who the fuck could it be? We know Bandai, Square, Konami, Sega, Capcom, Ubisoft, Activision, EA and Gearbox have had plenty of access to dev kits. There's some utter dross to be had there, so who's the absolute lowest of the low that even Nintendo doesn't want them getting their hands on a kit?

>>719229342
Elden Ring was a fucking mess on release, and it probably still is. Imagine using a company who are notorious for poor optimization as an example.

>>719228998
Oh I get it.
He had the framerate smoothing setting switched on.
Right now I'm running bloodstained on my deck at 160FPS with maxed out settings.

>>719210050 (OP)
I told you assholes this already but you're all dumb cunts and tried arguing with me

>>719222079
With all shitposting aside, I legitimately refuse to believe anyone actually thinks this in an industry where micro$oft, nusony, ubislop, tencent, EA, activision, and square exist. How utterly fucking stupid and ignorant you'd have to be...

>>719229837
Stop, you are asking too many questions.

>>719210162
>Nintendo gives advantage to smaller studios and indies to develop games instead of the AAA corpos
>/v/ finds this bad, evil, and all around unacceptable because it "hurts" the billion dollar corporarions and their shareholders
/v/ truly is a magical place where the little guy is bad and rich people are good. I guess it's communism or something to support small devs and indie, at least I have been called that for criticizing corpo greed.

>>719230080
stop making shit up and post sources

>>719227638
The Shitch 2 doesn't have a dev mode, and I'm pretty sure Nintendo will deny licensing your game (and possibly sue you) if they find out you're deving on jailbroken hardware.

>macaco thread
For every one of these threads you spam, for every samefag shitpost, one bad thing will happen to sony. You killed sony.

And you're still raped n gaped btw

>be Nintendo
>launch overpriced console with 2 games
>don't put out a zelda, f-zero, starfox, animal crossing, smash bros, paper mario at the same time

Retards

>>719230135
Sources for what?
/v/ being pro corpo?

>>719230080
Indieshit already runs fine on Switch 1. It's higher end games which badly need the performance.

>>719229981
Nice try nigger, the deck's screen is capped at 60hz and the OLED's at 90hz. You cannot games at a frame rate your display isn't fast enough for, techlet
>t. actual deck owner

>>719230206
Greenlighting Kirby Air Riders before F-Zero is insane. Literally no one was asking for Kirby.

>>719230268
Hey man you're funny.
Let me give you a tip: use mangohud FPS limiter instead of the steam interface limiter. Less input lag.

>>719230268
With vsync off and no framelimiter you can easily get fps > hz. Completely pointless outside of benchmarking, but you can do it.

>>719230282
What would a new F Zero even be like? They can't match GX, let alone improve on it.

>>71923031
>With vsync off and no framelimiter
>Dood I fuckin' love screen tearing and stuttering

>>719230206
Name a single nintendo console that launched with all of those games within the span of three months.

>>719230318
It's wasteful and not any "smoother" but not completely pointless. Try playing any old shooter at 300fps with vsync off on a shitty 60hz screen and it will be much more responsive than just locking it.

>>719230363
All they have to do is remake GX, redo the graphics, add more courses, and online

>>719230363
As if GX was the perfect f-zero game and there is literally nothing they could change or add

>>719230546
>All they have to do is remake GX,
They can't even do that, because there's no analog triggers.

>>719230206
they seem to be doing the right thing given it broke basically all sales records everywhere to the point of still having stocking issues months after launch

>>719230576
It's on the NSO online... it must work somehow.

>>719230636
You have to buy the NSO Gamecube controller or suffer crippled controls. I don't believe that Nintendo would make a Switch 2 game which is only playable with a special controller.

>>719230720
They put put Mario Sunshine in the All-Stars pack... they don't give a shit.

>>719230026
You need to remember that you're in a bait thead anon, nothing here really matters.

>>719230487
It's not the 90s-2000s anymore, Nintendo is bigger than it's ever been, it's competitors are shitting themselves, there's no reason they couldn't have put a ton of money into a selection of games, games their fans would lap up, for the Switch 2. People buying it to play BoTW, a 7 year old game with better graphics are chumps. Frankly the console is an insult.

>>719230408
Tearing past some high framerates is barely noticeable on 3D games
Stuttering/framepacing can be experienced at any framerate whatsoever, vsync is not gonna always give you a way out of that. What you get with basic bitch vsync is a lot of unnecessary input lag, with the stuff we have these days.
None of these points matter anyways.
The point is bloodstained can run smoothly (without tearing) at the refresh rate the OLED offers (90), maxed out, 100% internal resolution, no stuttering because you can cap the frames, and you can cap them with something that will introduce no discernible input lag. Battery life at around 5 hours on the OLED. Only issue is the game does not recognize the 1280x800 resolution so it stays at 720. Not a huge deal on the OLED where you can't even see the black bars.

>>719229107
You're not supposed to have more than 1 platform, that's not the right narrative!

>>719230867
I'm aware, but I've seen people on xitter and jewtube and r*ddit seemingly unironically say this. It genuinely makes me feel like one of the the last sane people on the internet

>>719230921
Why would Nintendo have to try if their fans buy it up anyway?

>>719230576
Analog triggers are a meme when in real gameplay you either floor it or not press it at all.
If you want analog acceleration or tilting just use the right analog stick.

>>719226867
The seal used to dictate what nintendo was willing to sell. So by what the seal represented back when it meant literally anything, this aislop shovelware has nintendo's seal of approval/quality.

>>719231018
Try playing a racing game more complicated than Mario Kart some time.

>>719210162
The pretzels you lads must be twisting your whole two neurons into trying to pretend this is a good thing.

>>719230921
>>719231016
>Nintendo sux now they need to be like the old days
>If nintendo doesn't do thing no one else has ever done before that would result in a worthless front-loaded system and terrible games made by teams who never wanted to make them, it's an insult.
lol, the absolute state of /v/

>>719231065
such as?

>>719231226
The one we are currently talking about, F Zero GX.

>>719231226
Wipeout

>>719230282
>people don't want this series were the last game sold 10 million copies, people want this series where the last game completely flopped!
You underestimate how massive Kirby is in japan.

>>719231031
>well no they dont apply the seal of quality to these games, but actually they do spiritually!
anon...

>>719230206
In their defence it is working for them but I don't understand how they don't have a plethora of new games in those series ready to go considering how long it took them to actually launch the Switch 2.

>>719227209
DK bananza was the best selling game of the year in only 16 days, and its on a brand new console.

keep coping, snoy.

>>719231676
I don't understand how they don't have devkits considering how long it took. It's not like the PS5/Xbox launch where they're constrained by supply chains either

>>719227735
are you people retarded?
people always keep making games for prior consoles when new consoles come out for a few years.
it happens literally all the time, usually 1-2 years of support from big names and 3-4 years of support from 3rd parties following a new console.

Any game that can't run on the switch 1 at least at 30fps (even if it dips) is simply not worth playing, simple as.
Focus on GAMEplay, I have graphics fatigue.

>>719229823
It wouldn't. Dlss doesn't give you more fps. That's not how it works.

>>719215578
>NEEDS to be an evergreen
mario multiplayer spinoffs already sell gorillion copies
>filler multiplat
as if any other modern console had many "release window" titles, and wasn't purely hardware upgrade

nintendo has literally no incentive for drastic shakeups, it's the same with pokeymans: brand loyalty and momentum are more than enough for cruise control

>>719231674
If you're not old enough to know what their seal of quality actually was then fine, but it doesn't change they're inundating their store with aislop shovelware that they approved of and their seal means absolutely nothing these days. Hell, I didn't even know they were still doing it, it's that worthless now.

>>719231801
...Yes, but Nintendo is saying developers SHOULDN'T make games for their newest system. They want dev kits to make Switch 2 games. For the Switch 2. That Nintendo themselves released, and so far, has been a success. Nintendo is, for some reason, telling devs instead, to just make Switch 1 games, and port them.

>>719231725
Not even close. At least say Mario Kart World, which also isn't true, but isn't eating shit like Bananza a week after release.

lmao as an indie dev I adore seeing literally who entitled Chinese devs getting shut out

>>719210050 (OP)
Nintendo is doing this because they lost trust from thirdparty devs holding secrets. I Remember that dev that said the switch 2 was real and had a devkit of it months before the switch 2 was shown and confirmed. That made Nintendo pissed.

>>719232637
So autism. There's not even anything fucking special about the Switch 2 to warrant being worried about leaks. That's not to say it doesn't have good games, but what? Nintendo worried about fucking mouse control?

typical nintendo fucking everyone over

>>719233105
You don't remember how much speculation and shitposting there was about the C button?

>>719210050 (OP)
so this is why that last direct had that switch 1 only title for no apparent reason

>>719210050 (OP)
Switch 1 means more people buy the game AND there is higher potential of a physical release AND the devs have to optimize for a weaker console

Nintendo is smarter than they are

>>719222079
It's true but retards are still too retarded to admit how low quality and greedy Nintendo is.

>>719210050 (OP)
>"Reportedly"

NDS

Nintendo really seems to be in the process of burning as much goodwill as possible. This reminds me of the Playstation 2 era when Sony treated developers like absolute shit because the system was so popular they could get away with it, but then that arrogance came back to bite them in the ass with the PS3.

>>719234396
That's a good thing
Let them learn that lesson.
Everything related to this console is a real shitshow.
Not even the wii u was this bad

>>719210050 (OP)
The Switch 2 has devastated OP's butthole so hard he calls it a disaster lmao

>>719234396
Nintendo's been doing that a few times.
That's why mainline GTA games were almost never in Nintendo consoles.
That's why mainline Final Fantasy games went to Sony.
Hell that's why Sony consoles are a thing. Nintendo has been on a rollercoaster there since the SNES. The Wii U should have taught them a very valuable lesson, but the Switch 1 being successful made them forget.

That's cool, or sorry that happened.
Still not gonna buy a switch 2 tho. Have a good one.

>>719222517
This. But Valve is /v/'s sacred cow you're not allowed to make fun of.

>>719234396
>Nintendo really seems to be in the process of burning as much goodwill as possible.
Yeah not really. Thing is, what you want to pass as "burning goodwill" is more malicious compliance and it's solely towards third party developers and not consumers. After all they haven't said no to them, they went along with their ridiculous game key idea for example knowing no one will buy it.
The kicker is that unlike the ps1 and 2 era, there's nowhere to go.
Nintendo and pc players have standards and won't buy their low quality games even if they are ported to their platforms.
Sonyfags just don't buy games period anymore and Sony is going third party anyway.
Xbots don't exist anymore.

Throwing that in with consumers being more aware of companies now than in the past third parties are now basically locked into a situation where they can't even blame Nintendo like they tried to with the N64 since everyone knows they had the option not to but chose the cheapest one.
On the topic of being aware no one trusts journalists concerning Nintendo because of all of their antics during the switch era like the constant rumors of a switch pro and advertising piracy to spite them.

In other words, third party developers are getting fucked by their own scummy tactics and they get to watch their house burned down.

>>719235582
>The Wii U should have taught them a very valuable lesson,
It did, they realised they can survive on their own products as long as they don't have a hack like iwata at the helm.

>>719234624
Anon even the og Switch is still raping him, he is getting spitroasted so hard he is seething 24/7.

>>719234396
>burning as many bridges as possible
>Anyone who released games on Switch 1 also releases games on Switch 2 (meaning they have dev kits)
Stop being a little bitch and making up scenarios in your head.
>>719235582
There was an exclusive GTA game on DS. Otherwise Rockstar just didn't bother to port.
>Final Fantasy
Sony offered them a better distribution deal since they could use the same distribution channels as they used for their CDs.
>that's why Sony consoles are a thing
Because Sony wanted to steal Nintendo's IPs and Nintendo told them to fuck off?

>>719210050 (OP)
>dont cater to the new one
>cater to 160 million other consumers
>anti consumer

>>719234624
8 years (and counting)!

Anima I and II remaster by a 3 person Spanish team is coming to Switch 2 (with no Switch 1 version)
https://youtu.be/q6XSK6Vjtio?si=dplXCCcf9Q75cGqE
Seems like it's very easy to get the dev kits

>>719236909
Oh so OP is just a lying fuck like usual?

>>719234624
A disaster! (to his butthole)

>>719235991
Over half the posts talking about gay ben reference how fat he is and that he can't count to 3. We get a thread every tuesday acting like steam crashed and burned. /v/ makes fun of valve all the time.

>>719228787
> raises legitimate concerns
> zero engagement from tendies
Many such cases

>>719210050 (OP)
Why would releasing games to a wider audience for cheaper be a "scam"?

>>719227209
Fuck off Nintendeen

>>719210050 (OP)
>indie dev
>Digital Faggotry
fake, gay and opinion discarded.

>>719237037
Of course, a lot of major third party companies are confirmed to have dev kits and small teams also have it. These devs that didn't get one are probably literal whos

>>719210281
exactly. if they want us to actually believe it show us which one can't get it. is it a popular one, one big team or just one random dude doing random slops?

>>719215818
anon, I don't know the stuff you're talking about. I only got that Xbox will be $1200 and not have BC with all of Xbox's games.

>>719238847
It's almost as if none of it is true.
They've been reporting sales with the same frequency they always do.
Not having anything interesting is an opinion and not a fact making it irrelevant and the first year has
Mario Kart
Donkey Kong
Pokemon
And possibly Splatoon Raiders
For first year heavy hitters.

>>719210162
this post was a direct affront to my iq

>>719238847
>>719239979

You lost and got raped;;; Eric

I feel safer knowing that there are still heroes in our world ready to altruistically defend multi-billion dollar mega-corporations.

>>719211057
They approve developers, not individual games. It leads to the store being flooded since the quality control is only on the developer side and if the game boots.

Anti-nintendo schizo having a meltie this early in the morning

>>719240139
You lost and got raped;;; Eric

>>719210050 (OP)
Worked for PS5. I don't see the problem.

>>719240139
imagine being a snoy lmao

>>719222079
how is, devs don't get a s2 devkit
anti consumer?

>>719227936
For starters, Bananza would have been severely limited on what they could accomplish gameplaywise had it been on the Switch. So the question Nintendo is posing onto developers, "what are you doing that justifies the capabilities of the Switch 2 that simply can't be done on the Switch?" Instead of opening the floodgates, I think this is good idea to help give novel games some time in the spotlight to help push what the Switch 2 can achieve that the Switch can't.

>>719221535
>>719215714

>>719210859
"seal of quality" has never implied more than "not counterfeit"
if you think even at its inception with the NES that they were keeping shit games out, you are out of touch with reality

>>719219717
"pay up the ass" or skim ebay and facebook listings for hackable serial numbers because they never know what they have

>>719241218
>seal of quality" has never implied more than "not counterfeit"
Well, no. It wasn't so much that as much as it meant that the game wasn't literally unplayable.

>>719239767
they're going a route similar to the 3DO or to GPU manufacturing by letting third parties manufacture "xbox" consoles that play "xbox" games, but only the in-house design, e.g. founder's edition GPU equivalent, will have backwards compatibility, and other versions with the same core hardware won't

>>719241510
That's such a terrible idea, Microsoft truly is retarded

Why the schizo OP writes like those boomer ass posts on social media?

>>719241451
>it meant that the game wasn't literally unplayable.
So why did Superman 64 get the seal? When it's literally unbeatable?
The seal isn't about gameplay quality, it's about authenticity. That's it.

>>719220987
>"4k" technically includes 1440p
Only a console user would think this.

>>719241717
The Seal just means that the game won't blow up or reprogram your console to do something it's not supposed to do.

>>719230268
>You cannot games at a frame rate your display isn't fast enough for, techlet
The techlet here is you, retard.

>>719210050 (OP)
>starfield set for space gameplay changes, new game systems, and a few other smaller delights, bethesda says
Fuck off Todd, I still don't believe your lies.

>>719241717
>When it's literally unbeatable?
Because it's beatable, obviously. The controls are ass and the time given is absurd but you can finish the game.
>it's about authenticity
No, it was never about authenticity. It was quite literally a guarantee that the game was reviewed before being approved.

>you lost and got raped, Eric
>you lost and got raped, Eric
>you lost and got raped, Eric

>>719210050 (OP)
It probably won't hurt Nintendo directly but it will limit its growth. The best selling Nintendo systems always had a lot of third party support even if it wasn't their main platform. With poor sales of third party games and Nintendo being weird about devkits, most developers wont even bother. The real money is being made on Steam so they'll just focus their efforts there.

>>719216307
>Rumor
Gamescom just happened and its obviously people who work in the media talking to developers on the show floor.

best console on the market right now for people who like games and not woke movies for deranged child killer trannies and boomer women :)

>>719227209
Tendies are going to cope and seeth but this is already happening. First month was 1.6M. This month was 400K. So a 75% drop. That would be fine if it was a supply issue but it absolutely isn't. The new cope is going to be "its not Christmas".

In fairness though, the economy is shit for the average consumer so that is a big reason its falling off. Though Nintendo could have just released it at a better price or not wait fucking years to get the thing out.

>>719245013
>>719245119
>>719245370

You lost and got raped;;; Eric

>>719245482
Hodor, hodooor, hodooor!

>>719210050 (OP)
OOF, and yesterday we learned that the Switch 2 is just about to fall behind the PS4 after the "biggest" console launch ever.

>>719245586
>>719245636

You lost and got raped;;; Eric

PC master race reporting in. Can I get a QRD on why some retards not getting a dev kit by Nintendo is a problem for Nintendo in any way?

>>719245805
Hooodooor, hooodooor!

>>719245636
Switch 2 is currently selling worse than the PS5.

>>719245826
It’s not,

You don’t even really NEED a dev kit for the switch 2. Mist switch 1 games, especially indies, just use the SDK on their website rather than a hardware based kit. Dev kits are extremely expensive, legally restrictive, and are normally only available to trusted partners in the early years of a console’s life cycle. I imagine Nintendo is being especially careful this time around for fear of software exploits being revealed.

Tl;dr this is a nothingburger

>>719241980
No it doesn't.
It means it was produced though official means. That is all.

>>719244737
>Because it's beatable, obviously.
It's literally not beatable without cheats.

>>719246035
I believe it, Nintendo is practically giving them away for free in Japan and its still selling like dog shit, it's looking grim in the rest of the world.

>>719245959
>>719246035
You lost and got raped;;; Eric.
Lying won't save your tranny ass

>>719210050 (OP)
My enthusiasm for 3rd party support is rock bottom for Switch 2, game-key cards have sucked away any interest I have in it. It's just gonna be another Nintendo console where I only get 1st party games and that's it again.

I think this will be my last Nintendo console (and console in general), companies don't let you own anything anymore so I'm just gonna pirate everything on PC.

>>719210050 (OP)
Fuck I hope that one AAA studio that got cucked was ND or Ubi. I hope Nintedo spends 10 minutes going over that camfire game in the next Direct just to piss in their face some more. Apparently: MS, EA, Capcom, Konami and CDPR all have kits but I haven't read anything else about T2, ND or Ubisoft.

>>719246215
HODOOOOOOR!

>>719245826
The Switch 2 is a Nvidia T239 and if you want to use DLSS, ver 3.1 from 2022 and 2023, respectively. If devs were genuinely worried about writing to the silicon it's easy to just buy that and run. If devs aren't genuinely interested, they don't need a kit. Someone big is pissed off and making a lot of noise.

>>719246532
You lost and got raped;;; Eric

>>719246743
Hodor hodor hodor hodor hodor;;; Hodor

>>719210050 (OP)
So much for Jewtendo taking players from other platforms, huh, Olímpio.
Now you should be asking Nintendo, where are the games?

>Hahah the price of games and software will keep those filthy third worlders out from my white aryan Nintendo console!
>Wtf why is no one making Switch 2 games this is bullshit
Comedy of the year

>>719245826
Means less games for their system. Long term, it could mean third parties don't even bother if the thing isn't as successful as the Switch 1. It doesn't hurt much since most people buy Nintendo products for their games but will probably hinder its growth long term. People forget some of Nintendo's most successful consoles had a ton of third party games.

>>719220987
ONLY 60 fps?

>>719246801
Kek, cooked that retarded, mentally ill subhuman Nintendo slurper!

>>719246801
>>719246882
>>719246910
>>719246943
>>719247020

>>719246943
>Means less games for their system
Why? They want people to make games for the Switch 1 instead, so they get a game for 2 systems instead of 1.

>>719246801
>>719246882
>>719246910
>>719246943
>>719247020
You lost and got raped;;; Eric

>>719247105
You can only downgrade games for 2-gen-old hardware so much.

>>719246943
You don’t need a development kit to make games for a console. Most indies don’t get them. Do you really think every dev putting out AI hentai puzzle match slop has a dev kit on hand?

Most just use the SDK tools Nintendo has in their website. They’re pretty easy to get your hands on. I haven’t made a game for switch 2 yet so I don’t know the process there, but if the process is in any way similar, I can’t imagine this will result in anything besides a few journos making a big stink about it for clicks. The games will be fine

>>719247168
Hodor hodor hodor hodor hodor;;; Hodor

>>719245119
>Gamescom just happened and its obviously people who work in the media talking to developers on the show floor.
So basically you admitted you believed a rumor. If what you said was true there would be NAMES, not he said she said bullshit. You need to stop being a gullible nigger.

>subhuman is doing his one and only job since he was born which is quote spamming
Kek, has anyone ever wondered why the "other" tendies never question this behavior but get immediately mindbroken when they see Olímpio In a post?

>>719247363
>>719247402
You lost and got raped;;; Eric

>>719247479
Hodor hodor hodor hodor hodor;;; Hodor

Reminder that Olímpio is a confirmed homosexual, a tendie and a pathological liar.

Don't ever try to argue any of his mentally ill fantasies, wiki and twitter screenshots and much less his reminders.
Remember that he is a pedophile from kiwi farms.

>>719247562
>>719247905
You lost and got raped;;; Eric

>>719248038
Hodor hodor hodor hodor hodor;;; Hodor

>>719210281
>they greenlight these garbage cashgrabs
>meanwhile senran, tokyo clanpool, and senran got fucking bodied and are now dead and buried
something really fucking fishy is going on

>>719248164
Blame Sony

>>719248052
You lost and got raped;;; Eric

>>719248202
>muh snoy bogeyman
you're the cancer that is killing nintendo

Can someone please explain why two retards in this thread keep replying the same thing to each other

>>719248246
People haven't learned to ignore the Ericbot

>>719248246
because the mods wont rangeban him
its one schizo talking to himself

>>719248232
>>719248303
>>719248304
You lost and got raped;;; Eric

>>719248232
They stopped because Sony banned them that's objectively the truth

>>719248202
Hodor hodor hodor hodor hodor;;; Hodor

No idea why anyone would want to play games available on any other platform on a Switch 1 or 2 anyway to be honest.

>>719248419
>>719248567
You lost and got raped;;; Eric

>>719210050 (OP)
...they are scamming customers by extending the life of their previous console?

>>719248775
You lost and got raped;;; Eric

>>719246035
Trvke . Bingtendies on Svicide watch ;; Eric winned

>>719248246
>>719248304
>its one schizo talking to himself
No. I thought I'd try to show him how he appears to others, and maybe he'd start to act like a real human being for once, out of shame if nothing else. Alas, he's too far gone.
I remember when his mind wasn't as broken as it is now, and he could even still speak. He would spend his whole days in BotW threads, defending it and posting webms where someone deliberately made the game run bad on an emulator to prove that it can't be emulated.
I thought he was retarded then, but now I learned to appreciate his past self, by comparison.

every single bad news story about the switch 2 on the internet has been wrong

they have sold millions of them, 2 million in the US alone by the end of July and I can still walk into any store and pick one up easily right now

why is their so much unwarranted hatred for this console online

>>719248870

You lost and got raped;;; Eric

>>719248246
It's just one retard and he replied 3x to your post, he just does this, he will spam quote you and larp as 20 different guys that are ultra offended that someone challenged his retarded Eric spam and Sony obsession that has been going on for years.

>>719230921
Why are you not naming a Nintendo console that launched with all the games you said in the previous post?

>>719249017
>ummm actually the bad things are lies because sale number good

>>719240139
I know, the anti woke movement has done trillions of damage to corporation yet the left still side with them against us

>>719249603
>>719249960

You lost and got raped;;; Eric