Thread 719727650

Any vidya where you fight for Christianity?

>>719727650 (OP)
mine, kind of. but not the way you'll like.

>>719727650 (OP)
what, by talking at people about the jew on a stick?

>>719727650 (OP)
Civ 4-7.

>>719727650 (OP)
Crusader Kings

>>719727650 (OP)
Medieval 2 Total war you can ask Pope to start a crusade and fight for the Jerusalem

>>719727650 (OP)
There was this bible gaem RTS, that was so on the nose it looked like a parody.
So basically, it was an RTS where you either play the christians trying to convert people, or the globalists trying to fucking murder them.
Of course the globalists had all the cool shit, soldiers, tanks, guns, and you gun the christians down en masse, and if you play christians you basically only have an army of WOLOLOs.
It also played like shit.
Anyone know the game I'm talking about?

>>719727650 (OP)
best I can give you is hitting goblins with a sword

modded mount and blade warband

King Arthur: Knight's Tale.
Your morality is a quadrant of this
>Old Gods vs Christianity on the X axis
>Rightful vs Tyrannical on the Y axis
It's fucking cool.

Generally speaking old gods get a lot more mages, christianity a lot more knights. Rightful gets sages (buffer units), tyrannical gets rogues for stealth kills.

>>719727650 (OP)
FAITH

>>719731208
was it the rapture game?

>>719727650 (OP)
Fallout New Vegas Honest Hearts dlc.

>>719727650 (OP)
Minecraft

>>719729318
ye

>>719727650 (OP)
Closest I remember of a game you play as a religious crusader would be the Penitent One from Blasphemous but his religion, or rather, what his sect specifically worships is still confusing (he seems to regard some icons like The Twisted One as holy, but he is opposed to the current church worshipping the Miracle).
It seems it's the entity that sent Anunciada.

>>719732274
They chose to crucify Jesus over a murderer because he healed the sick and fed the poor and told them to stop turning his fathers house into a market.

>>719732106
I think so, yeah.
Don't really remember the name.

>>719727650 (OP)
This shit is such a load of copium, Christians IRL are all cucks who think if you let your enemies kill you you win.

>>719733723
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left_Behind:_Eternal_Forces

What year did 4chan suddenly have this influx of e-Christians?

>>719734014
Why do jews rape kids?

>>719734014
They've been turfing hard with stormfront fighting for the narrative since like idk, 2015ish? Stormfront was the only one who cared to try before then

>>719734085
Because they're jews, and that's what they do.
Now are you going to answer my question, Juan?

>>719732274
i'm not a christcuck but Luther was based for standing up to the corrupt catholics and hating jews
shame it led to decades of war and murder of europeans

>>719734014
why you seething so hard about God actually doing something that's leading towards a great Christian revival, especially in the youth?
i though you people wanted Him to "show Himself" or just "prove" Himself to you in whatever way, but apparently when He does it in a way you don't like or didn't ask for, you seethe and continue to deny His existence cause the sign you get wasn't to your liking.

>>719727650 (OP)
CK2/3 (2 is better)
Total war medieval 2 teutonic campaign
EU4

>>719734342
>why you seething

>>719734014
It's not an influx of Christians. It's the understanding of the average atheist 4channer (like me who first visited in 2006) of how the disparaging of Christianity is an attack on their identity even if they don't identify as Christians. I am an atheist (thought christened) and Christian culture is superior to others simply because I am not automatically an enemy to Christian culture of which I am part whether I like it or not. Sometimes it leads to LARPing because what else will someone like me LARP as? Mughals? No, let me slay the heathens as a white Christian.

>>719734401
It's real funny that the first thing I thought about seeing that scene in the theater was "just like 4chan" lol.

>>719734014
My guess is with the current world going crazier and crazier more people started going back to tradition and the like. Additionally with how much impact jews have been having behind the scenes with this madness they have started seeing this as separate from Christianity.

>>719734014
counter revolution

>>719734342
>that's leading towards a great Christian revival
youre being played by the vatican stooges
bible says the world will get worse to closer we come to the 2nd coming of Christ

>>719734342
Your god hasn't done shit, you just fell for a cult that says you'll be tortured forever if you don't because you're a gullible coward.

>>719727650 (OP)
medieval 2 total war

>>719727650 (OP)
uh, nyo? that would be racist...

>>719734014
Fuck you, you dirty little kike. /v/ rightfully belongs to us based tradcaths. I may be brown-skinned and from Brazil, but my ancestry is definitely European, and I can feel my crusader blood flowing when I own you people online.
Fuck. Off.

>>719734563
The Bible says that Christ would come back when the people he was talking to were still alive, your religion disproved itself two thousand years ago.

>>719732274
Luther may have said this stuff, but American Protestants don't know shit about him and instead blindly follow the Scofield Reference Bible and Dispensationalism, resulting in their worship of Jews and Israel.

>>719734291
Had he not made up his own religion, he likely would have become a Saint. He may have sent more people to hell then Satan could ever hope to have done. Sola Scriptura is a cancer.

>>719734620
>has nothing to say but just incoherently rage like a demon possessed lunatic against a God who wants nothing but the best for him

>>719729318
Well, no, by killing them. Are you stupid?

*cock sucking noises*

>>719734240
Okay I'll try to answer this honestly. People are starting to slowly realize that Christianity is an important identity to filter out the godless, malicious and evil lifestyles that have been glorified in this satanic Weimar 2.0 western occupation government for nearly 60 years.

>>719734834
Their chief faggot DesTINY is not only a cock slurping faggot but a pedophile as well.

>>719734620
Oh no! I had to take part in my community by going to church for an hour once a week, be nice to people, and donate to the poor while praying that the world becomes a better place! The horror!

>>719734014
Just 4chan's contrarian nature taken to an extreme. For no other reason than Reddit fedora threads in the early 2010s, degens on here flocked to Christianity as a LARP identity so they wouldn't get called Redditors.

>>719734709
he did not.
he predicted that the people he was talking to will witness the destruction of the temple in their lives.

>>719734871
but the chinese are doing the same and they're not christian

>>719734014
They're incels who have latched on to a sex-negative religion because it lets them pretend to be better than other people.

>>719727650 (OP)
Knights of the Temple: Infernal Crusade
Knights of the Temple II

>>719735030
The next temple destruction is gonna be quite the sight because now nowhere on earth do they have anywhere to flee, the Lord shall not be mocked.

>>719735158
lmao what? chinese culture is about reporting your neighbor for social credit benefits.

This thread again? Last one was good, but give it a rest man

>>719734291
>Luther was based
He was directly responsible for splitting Europe in half and plunging it into religious wars, the apogeum being the 30 Years War which wiped out 1/3 of the continent's population and ruined entire regions. Oh, and made conquest by the Ottomans that much easier.

>>719735201
indeed brother

>>719732664
Honestly, considering the historical context they probably chose to crucify Jesus because he was going to end up getting everyone killed by the Romans like Bar Kochba did because he believed the fairytales about God saving the Jews despite terrible odds (except when he didn't). Mark is the one Gospel worth a damn as a recounting of events.

>>719735201
>The next temple destruction
???

>>719734563
My man, before any of that can happen, God will work it out to make sure that as many people as possible will be able to come to Him and be saved. There were be signs and wonders and so many other things showing up to the point that it would next to impossible to actually deny Him, yet people still will, and those who still deny the existence of God despite so many signs actually being shown as they always kept asking and demanding for will end up being the ones that willing take the Mark of The Beast upon themselves, therefore forgoing their soul for the rest of existence.

The fact any of that will come to happen at some point doesn't take away from the fact God still works towards the Salvation of as many people as possible and frankly, I don't understand why you're even that hung up over it. I'm Orthodox, not Catholic, so I don't care about what the Pope or the Vatican says.

>>719734014
The year where sexual frustration started to rise among the youth

Some of the Total War games.

>>719734970
he wants to just spend all that time he wasted on church on masturbating to the vilest, most degenerate of all porn possible while locked inside his room for 24 hours straight, lol.

>>719735169
we're better than you

>>719727650 (OP)
Shin Megami Tensei

>>719735270
no, he wrestles power from the papal office by opening the scripture to all people showing their hypocrisy.
the pope ruled kings until that point and corrupting the teachings of God.

>>719735316
Greater Israel, the third temple, all these roads of zog globohomo bullshit lead to this exact point where these demons try to bring their messiah the anti-christ to earth. Why do you think these companies are funneling billions into AI?

>>719734834
>>719734953
true

>>719734620
>you're a gullible coward.
The establishment is on the side of lgbt woke demons though.

>>719735385
Why are christfags always thinking about what other men do with their dicks?

Call me crazy but I'm pretty sure you can't be Christian and a violent man that 'fights' for it.

>>719727650 (OP)
Amen. Yeshua is king!

>>719735404
>Trannies out of nowhere
Well, to give you credit, your social congregation is pretty good at making up enemies in their head

>>719734014
4chan Christians are more embarrassing than fedora atheists were

>>719735304
>Every single (((media))) in existence portrays the Crusades as a cynical conquest.
>In reality all evidence points to the contrary - equipping a retinue, travel etc. were so expensive that lords completely bankrupted themselves in the process (the King of France used FIVE YEARS WORTH of his entire budget); they knew full well that the land is mostly desert and badlands and that they could not count on plunder, but they still went.

>>719734085
New christian convert here
I was raised jewish, and i have heard rabbis make joke about boys in a sexual way, im lucky i didnt get molested.
People joke about c*tholic but rabbis

>>719735462
why are atheists everything they accuse christians of being? these niggas are the biggest hypocrites ever

>>719735270
shouldn't have sold indulgences then and weakened europe through war :)

>>719735318
just saying the next big thing will be christian nationalism that will be more ugly than anything before seen on earth.
just dont fall for that psyop, the catholic church is the harlot mother church after all.

>>719734014
Mid 2010s. It's just contrarianism. If religion gets popular again they'll all switch back. None of these dorks goes to church or has read the bible.

t. went to catholic school

>>719734970
>He thinks his money goes to the poor

>>719735404
casting the first stone i see

>>719735568
>sold indulgences
You mean that practice that came about 300 years later and concerned only the nobility?

>>719735459
made up bs that wont happen

>>719735459
And God has just done nothing and allowed this to happen but sure yeah he's gonna show up and fix everything in two weeks for real this time.

>>719735459
>Why do you think these companies are funneling billions into AI?
So they can cut wages and jobs and increase productivity and shareholder returns while minimizing expenses like every corporation ever? The state religion is Mammon-worship, not Christianity

>>719735513
they're the same coin

>>719732664
A mix of this >>719735314 among others.
Also Barrabaz was a revolutionary. It was less about getting Jesus killed, but more about getting him freed. The people wanted a second coming of a warrior king like David which Jesus didn't fit.

>>719735483
Idk about that anon the Lord was described as a warrior who will bring down all his enemies, Jesus even flipped tables and whipped the money changers for turning his father's house into a market. If I see some degenerate subhuman spreading wickedness to the helpless it wouldn't really sit right with me walking past instead of slamming his head into the pavement until he begs for mercy.

>>719735540
>I heard an off-color joke once!
>It was like I was literally raped!

>>719732664
Jesus was a self taught mage that showed actual magic to the commoner, and the apostles were his apprentices. Differently to the alchemist or suddis, Christ taught magic trought principle and self realization, and so the early christians, the so called "gnostics", surfaced. That shit didn't went good with the synagoge because if magic is real then there is no reason to be a good boy shabos goy nigger cattle so they got him and his people killed off. And yet, after that, they still got the nerve to borrow the Kabbalah, and use it for themselves, and conceal the fact that Jesus was a damn high level wizard.

>>719735471
you are so fucking stupid and evangelists broke your stupid retard brain further

>>719735513
It's the same people, no one sane bases their entire lives on politics or religion.

>>719735874
you are called upon not to pass judgement, that is God's place not man, 'why worry about the speck in your neighbors eye when there's a pillar in your own'

>>719735926
>if magic is real then there is no reason to be a good boy shabos goy nigger cattle
I don't see how that follows. Especially since the Bible says magic is real.

>>719735201
>>719735316
>>719735459
Jews don't accept Christ as the Messiah and believe he is still yet to come, so they are looking forward towards trying to build the Third Temple where they will be able to start their usual Old Testament Jewish practices in again with sacrificing unblemished animals and whatnot in hopes of God finally sending their expect Messiah to them, but what will happen instead is that the person in the future who will be the Antichrist and in charge of the One World Government will ultimately end up taking over The Third Temple, likely by force via invading Israel and taking over, then he will put himself into the Temple as the icon of veneration for all on Earth, like some sort of "living god" , and he will begin to conduct all manners of vile practices within the temple as a mockery towards the God of Christianity... all of it ultimately culminating in Christ's Second Coming to destroy the Antichrist along with his army that have risen up to try and fight against God to somehow prove that humanity is somehow better or above their own Creator.

However... There's still a long way to go towards there since the place in which the Third Temple is supposed to be built upon is in the hands of Islam, so Jews will need to somehow get that land back, whether through war or other means, then also, they don't have the specific types of animals they need to the sacrifice, although, they apparently managed to somehow bioengineer the perfect needed ones and are still doing further tests on it secure further, proper results. We're still in the very beginning stages of it, but you never know how fast some of it could actually change or proceed.

>>719736012
Anon, Christians hunted down "Witches" for sport and they were just magicians, and the general sentiment towards those practices is frowned upon or just plain ignored by the general public. Solomon was a sorcerer too, and yet, the average christian thinks that things like the Kabbalah or Vedic Mysticism are satanic or something, and yet, it was the exact same thing that Jesus originally taught in the first place.

>>719735508
Whatever helps you sleep at night, knowing you'll never be a woman with a womb.

>>719735874
>If I see some degenerate subhuman spreading wickedness to the helpless it wouldn't really sit right with me walking past instead of slamming his head into the pavement until he begs for mercy.
So how many times have you actually done that?

>>719736032
>the Antichrist and in charge of the One World Government will ultimately end up taking over The Third Temple, likely by force via invading Israel and taking over, then he will put himself into the Temple as the icon of veneration for all on Earth, like some sort of "living god"
thats just the pope

Praise Almighty God, Creator of the Heavens and of the Earth, of the seas and of the land, of the mountains and valleys, of the forests and deserts, of the fish and of the birds, of the beasts and of mankind, of man and woman, of rich and poor, of black and white, of jew and gentile. Hallowed is His name.
As created us, He knows us. He knows that the Commandments we should've followed are too much. That we are sinners, that we make mistakes, that we are flawed and imperfect. Many of you might think this is unfair and will be angered by this. Many will attempt to understand it rationally and look for reasons to disbelieve. Many will simply be too proud to accept their own flaws and reject this message.
But God did not make a mistake creating us. He did so with full knowledge of who we'd be and what we'd do. He made us despite our flaws, our weaknesses, our sins. That is why He sent His only begotten Son, Jesus Christ, to be a sacrifice for our sins, to enter into death itself and defeat it, so that anyone who believes in Him will be saved and overcome death with Him.
God wants a personal relationship with you. He wants you to know Him, to choose Him, to have faith in Him. It isn't about right or wrong, good or bad. It's about believing in God.
As I said, many of you will reject this message. But many of you will read these words and think to yourself "What if?". "What if he's right? What if OP is not a faggot today?". I say to you: try it! Try praying! Just try it, open your heart and ask God for help. Be completely and totally humble and honest, and I promise you that God will make Himself known to you.
God loves you, even if you don't love yourself. Never forget that.

Christ is King

>>719732191
Technically Mormon aka Jewish

>>719727650 (OP)
Dante's Inferno

>>719736008
>that guy is a wicked man who raped children and then murder the parents so he can further rape said children uninterrupted
>but like, uhm... i guess i can't judge evil and degeneracy when i see it cause like... uhm.... "do not judge" or something like that... idk not sure, i don't actually understand what that means but i'll just take it at literal face value and apply it towards everything and use it to shut up people when they try to tell me i'm doing bad lol
this is you. be better.

>>719733981
>Disbarred attorney Jack Thompson, who had strongly criticized violence in other video games, was particularly displeased with the game. Thompson claimed "The game is about killing people for their lack of faith in Jesus," which he claimed made it incompatible with basic Christian doctrine, and subsequently broke his connections with Left Behind publisher Tyndale House.

Huh. Gotta give him credit for sticking to his convictions.

>>719736301
Mormonism would be actually a pretty convenient Christian creed for americans, but at this point it's insanely cucked. You truly can't fix Christianity.

>>719736214
kabbalah is satanic jewish mysticism they adopted instead of accepting their messiah.
all mystic teachings tell you you can be god what makes them satanic from the get go.
the israelites and now christians rely on God to do these things instead of themselves.

>>719736301
???
What do they have in common besides wearing magic underwear and being willing to have debates about religion in public?

>>719736227
Not yet but if I do happen to see some nigger or other type of feral degenerate pressing a child or the elderly, someone who can't protect themselves you can bet for sure they'd be picking on someone their own size and is willing to seriously hurt them to the point of near death.

>>719735471
Here in America boys are still having part of their dicks cut off at birth because Christians want them to have less sexual pleasure later in life, you control freaks still are the establishment.

>>719736414
Mormonism actually has all the features that modern Cuckstains Cuckservatives beg for a la racism, no feminism, and polygamy.
The only drawback is you have to be a Jew

>>719736234
Kind of, but not really. There WILL be a "Black Pope" which is basically Satan's puppet in charge of the Church, which will allow the Antichrist, who is going to be the leader of the One World Government to lead people towards the One World Religion which will center around him as a person specifically being venerate as God. It's not going to be the Pope specifically who gets venerated like he does IRL right now by some, it will be the Antichrist specifically, the leader of it all. The Black Pope will just be one of the pawns in the whole play that will help him achieve world dominance.

>>719736329
if you don't like being a submissive cuck who serves his betters then why the fuck did you pick that religion? if you seriously want to be some manly badass murder machine who curbstomps his enemies pick literally any pagan religion or, i guess, islam
your messiah died on a cross and forgave his murderers like what do you expect?

>>719736425
>all mystic teachings tell you you can be god
Kabbalah doesn't teach that?

Why's this website and it's userbase so fucked in the head?

I'm not asking this as a newfag, I'm asking this as someone who has been here for over a decade, partook in the culture and usual shitpost flinging and shitting on others, but every since I became properly Christian, there's something that just changed about my entire feeling of this place. I barely ever post here like once or twice a month instead of daily, if something comes up like a new game release and that's about it, and every time I open it up, there's just something stirring in me that makes me feel disgusted and unfitting to be on here anymore. I started noticing the huge amount of conversations where people do nothing but just insult and curse at each other with no point for anything more and more and it all just feels so absolutely vile and disgusting, I just can't explain it but it feels like whenever I open this thing up again, I'm entering Sodom and Gomorrah, and anytime I don't conform to the usual shitposty personality that's been made up around this place, I just immediately get pointed at and shat on an either immediately called underaged or a newfag or whatever other type of slur possible depending on the context of my post.

This whole thing was something I had awareness of before this as well, but generally just ignored or tried not to pay much attention to it, but now it's just this feeling of filth that I keep getting myself in whenever I come visit again, which I shouldn't be in anymore or engage with.

>>719736485
Canaanites are Jews, and Graham is a New Canaanite

>>719736425
>kabbalah is satanic jewish mysticism they adopted instead of accepting their messiah.
And yet is the key to manifestation.
>all mystic teachings tell you you can be god what makes them satanic from the get go.
This is the entire premise of the Vedas, and they precede Satan's character and Hebrew scriptures in the first place. Think about that.
>>719736329
W-we must be better men?!

>>719727650 (OP)
Darklands

>>719736301
Joshua gives us the King James Version bible not the book of Mormon and he believes Jesus Christ as the Lord made flesh on this earth, not the heretical teachings of mormonism that say Jesus was just the first creation of the Lord denying him as the son of God.

>>719734620
my pastor warned me about demons such as you...

>>719736649
So this was a pasta all along?

>>719736698
Yeah, but all his language and all the exterior indications of his religion point to Mormonism.

>>719736571
the blakc pope is the jesuit general. the bad pope that points to the white pope in the vatican.
>which will allow the Antichrist
vicar of christ literally means in place of Christ which is the anti christ. man instead of God changing the laws and times of God.
> One World Government to lead people towards the One World Religion
so roman pagan catholicism. the pope already guides politicians and nations from the UN as some person of authority.

>>719736486
If they're actually physically assaulting someone and you jump in to save them, then you're doing the lord's work.

>>719727650 (OP)
Why are Christian conservative states trying to censor and ban certain vidya and anime? Why are they trying to erode internet privacy?

I never really felt that connected to religion. Well I consider myself catholic but I don't see much meaning in attending to masses and the like. I can't ever grasp what I'm supposed to be doing there as I hear those tales of old being recounted and their parables explained. I don't really understand the fervor others have.
But I really respect those things. People with a drive to build cathedrals to their God, to don armor and fight for a holy crusade and somehow finding peace in something as simple as attending to the church.
Sometimes I feel at some point religion resonated with me wrong. I have the belief, but just can't find this passion people do.

>>719736721
Of course the cult leader is going to say that anyone who would make you question the cult is a demon.

>>719735158
chinese are just as decadent as the west, just look past their propaganda and you will see.

>>719736637
it pretty much does.

>>719736684
>And yet is the key to manifestation.
so satisfying your material pleasures acting like your own god? thats satanism in a nutshell.

>and they precede Satan's character and Hebrew scriptures in the first place
dont make me laught. satans world religions were always pagan. worshiping the creation instead of the creator.

>>719736649
4chan has always valued personal freedom and Christians are control freaks who get off on exerting power over others.

>>719736910
>it pretty much does.
Please cite where

>>719736649
the end result of 4chan shitposting is to mindrape yourself until you inevitably troon out and then kill yourself. we've witnessed it time and time again.

there's dark energy to this place

it'd be better off fully christianized desu

>>719736637
Kabbalah is about the body of god, which is also your body because, as per the "Torah", he created (You) at his image, with all that implies. You have an arrangement of bodies that you have access to, like the body you use when you are in a dream. The Kabbalah have some parallelism to the Vedic Chakras, is all about reaching high frequency to use non-local entanglement, and thus, manipulate reality (or something along those lines).

>>719736951
You can leave any time you pearl clutching faggot.

>>719736910
I'm not even going to waste time with you. Enjoy this last (You) as my charity token.

>>719735270
No, the pope did that.

>>719737029
It is always justified to make fun of terminally online tranime addicts

>>719735513
We are stronger actually. We must be to withstand temptation and corruption in this place.

Can someone tell me how much of God is in a person? Cause I remember a game that stated the reason people could go on polarized skill trees was because they all had a fragment of God in their souls, so this basically meant everyone had a potential to ascend to angelic levels growing wings but also they could fall into necrotic trees.

>>719736942
its some time since I looked into it but its basically a practice of acquiring a state of higher self by combining the male and female, the snake climbing the tree and reaching the Ein Sof were you reach your own godhood outside of God.
a simple google search spits this out more detailed.

>>719736649
There are many jews, pagans and heathens who spend their entire time attacking christianity here.

>>719737204
>dumbshit tourist mindbroken by having to post on an anime site because everyone else banned him
>copes by screaming and crying about "tranime"

>>719737292
Way more posters on here attacking Jews than attacking Christians

>>719736742
Nigger how? He quotes specifically from the bible about the fall of the temple and the entire point of his character is that no matter how far you've fallen to sin and sickness you are never too far from God's mercy.

>>719736929
>personal freedom is when i can jerk off to child porn, crossdress like a faggot then become a cuck who ultimately either troons out and chops his dick off or gets a vasectomy then kills himself from how miserable he is
>christians are control freak because they tell me how jerking off to child porn and other degenerate stuff will lead me down a path where everything that's already discussed will happen one way or another and will lead to nothing but my constant misery and untimely death
you're so angry about the idea of people trying to help you not end up engaging yourself in activities that will literally hijack your mind, turn your retarded and then keep you enslaved to them in a loop of shame over and over again that you take that as them trying to 'exert dominance' over you and wanting what's worse for you. you're a literal slave in chains to your own subhuman, degenerate desires yet you don't see those as something that's 'exerting power' over you. it's only those who actually try to pull you out of that self inflicted, handicapped degeneracy that you see as enemies.

>>719737216
> they all had a fragment of God in their souls, so this basically meant everyone had a potential to ascend to angelic levels growing wings but also they could fall into necrotic trees
This is pretty much the premise of the Kabbalah in simple terms for the most part.

>>719737292
You're all the same to me. You'd laugh at me if I believe in ghosts and goblins but you do the same thing.

>>719737371
Well that's because everyone hates jews, christians have done nothing to warrant such attacks.

>>719737383
Hey also refers to gentiles, comes from Ogden Utah a city literally founded by LDS Mormons, Mormons are infamous for preparing for the apocalypse, he did missionary work, etc

>>719736951
>the end result of 4chan shitposting is to mindrape yourself until you inevitably troon out and then kill yourself. we've witnessed it time and time again.
You people say shit like this with the self awareness of a goldfish.

>>719737531
So are you saying the entire population of Ogden Utah was Mormon? That's retarded because majority of american cities will always be american protestant he reads from the KJV bible not the book of mormon.

>>719737292
i've noticed. luckily, there are been some i actually manage to reach, along with some christians, or at least people who sort of believed or were in the process of it, but weren't yet sure and needed some questions answered, so i answered them and it seemed to be what they sought for and it helped, so i'm happy with at least that. even if it doesn't seem like much, at least it was something and it helped save some people. that's worth more than anything else. those who are willing to hear the truth will hear it and those who don't want to, just won't, no matter how hard you try to "prove" it to them or argue over it. best you can do at that point is to just leave them to their delusions since it's clear that God hasn't worked in them yet for them to be able to accept things as they are.

>>719737513
Being their loyal pets is enough. Not attacking, mind you, just calling out the retarded.

>>719737420
What "loop of shame"? Normal people don't think that everything enjoyable is sinful, that's your desert cult using guilt to control you.

>>719727650 (OP)
>for
Ehhhhhhh
Dante's Inferno?

>>719737730
Most christians do not serve israel, you are thinking specifically of american evangelicals who are an obnoxiously loud minority.

>>719737513
Christians have demanded everyone comply with your religion's demands for two thousand years, and now that people are getting sick of it you're trying to play the victim.

>>719737682
Yes, almost literally. Its a huge nod to the Deseret. Christians dont use gentile in their language, Mormons do because they consider themselves descendents of Canaanites, Jews
Specifically Jews so sinful that other Jews wiped them out
Beyond that he doesn't give you a Bible, he gives you a book of nondescript scripture.
He explicitly quotes Ecclesiastes which is old Testament

He is A MORMON

>>719737513
No sorry I grew up in the 90s and had Christians trying to ban my shit and Sunday school teachers telling me I'd be going to hell fucking me up mentally for years you guys can fuck right off

>>719737836
most christians are brown, the white ones serve israel by either being evangelicals or by being boomers who fellate israel nonstop because of post-war propaganda
if you are a young white christian who hates israel you are a minority

>>719737879
Believing that Jesus Christ was the Lord made flesh on this earth disproves him as a mormon, he's a protestant.

>>719737874
Demanded who? Looks like the middle east is still muslim and india still hindhu despite being colonized by christians for centuries. Christians show up, ask if anyone wants to join and then move on, we do not for the most part forcibly convert people.

daily reminder that pic related is who you are arguing against in these threads, lol.

>>719736649
the world is ruled by satan and hates people in Christ. shouldnt come as a surprise to you. read the bible.

>>719737956
Do I get any kind of gibs for being this minority?

>>719736258
>He wants you to know Him, to choose Him, to have faith in Him. It isn't about right or wrong, good or bad. It's about believing in God.
>it isn’t about right or wrong, good or bad
Usually Christians aren’t very forthcoming about admitting they don’t have an objective morality, so that’s refreshing.

>>719737979
Mormons believe Jesus was a son of God in the flesh, but not Eternal

>>719738071
nope only death and persecution

>>719738124
Wrong. Mormons think Jesus was the first Man created by God denying him as a the son of God which is heresy in the broadest sense for denying the word of God.

>>719737874
Nobody cares faggot. Take your bitch ass back to r/atheism where it belongs.

>>719738219
https://newsroom.churchofjesuschrist.org/article/what-mormons-believe-about-jesus-christ

>>719738035
https://www.dailykos.com/history/user/CajsaLilliehook
these are the people on your side btw

>>719738219
mormons are scientology tier

>>719737513
>Just because we've ruled the world and mismanaged it for the last two millennia is no reason to attack us! Focus on the Jews!

>>719727650 (OP)
DOOM and Pony Island I guess counts?

>>719738317
Mormons are Jews

>>719737836
The religion is literally Israelite mythology, anon.

>>719737717
Based. We can make even 4chan a little better every day just by leading by example and giving correct information.

>>719738320
>mismanaged

you can get off our internet and computer anytime you like if it's so bad.

>>719737717
Proof?

>>719738293
I'm not clicking your heretical filth link just know that Lord Jesus Christ is the son of God and our lord and savior.

>>719737771
>Dante's Inferno?
There's more bare titties in that game than the average porno movie.

>>719737956
The average believer is a self destructive retard that would throw away his own self preservation in vain. As Jesus himself said, you know the tree by the fruits it bears, and the only thing that makes the average schizophrenic Christ maniac from this site set off is simply pointing at the facts, because the core of his worldview is founded on lies.
>>719738035
>You either are part of my death cult, or an hedonistic redditor. Call it.
No, i don't think i will.

>>719734014
2016 /pol/ tourists

>>719738504
>I wont read
Then I accept your concession and wonder why you wasted our time

>>719737979
Don't all Christians believe that, no matter what sect?

>>719737990
>Christians dindu nuffin!!!
Who do you think will fall for this revisionist bullshit?

>>719738508
>Hell is full of visible bare sex, adulturers and debauchery
WOOOOOOOW

>>719738508
i mean, yeah, he's in hell. everything's full of debauchery there.

>>719738508
I mean, you also literally beat the shit out of Satan at the end too.

>>719738035
Why are christfags so obsessed with what other men do with their dicks?

>>719738584
Your retarded link has nothing to do with the original topic thinking all of Ogden Utah is mormon and every interaction with Joshua Graham shows us he's not mormon when his core belief of the Lord goes directly against the heretical book of mormon.

>>719738317
How come 4chan entirely forgot about Scientology, anyway?

>>719738690
anons and redditors really do share the same personality

>>719738593
Sorry bud, I can see the state of the world and how christian and not have managed themselves. If you pile up all the atrocities committed by christians they are as nothing compared to those of pagans and heathens.

>>719738690
Again with this false dichotomy. But anyway, why would you believe something that is not true and act on that?

>>719738671
Im a christian and I never got why christian focus so much on masturbation as the greatest evil that could ever exist.
especially when the bible says its not a big deal anyway.

>>719737942
sometimes i forget i'm speaking to a bunch of old bitter jaded faggots on here lol

>>719738776
They’re quite simply not as powerful anymore. The only person able to get away with being a Scientologist without any real pushback is Tom Cruise.

>>719738776
idk you just don't hear about them much anymore. Maybe their reputation just got out and they decided to lay low?

>>719737942
RAPE SUNNY!!!!! UOOOOOGHHHHH

>>719738880
>especially when the bible says its not a big deal anyway.
Explain what happened to Onan then

>>719738894
Sometimes you forgot that the very thing you stand for oppose freedom of expression and personal transformation with nonsensical restrictions, hahaha opsie daisies!

>>719738526
This argument isn’t convincing because it’s the productive of really obvious motivated reasoning. Christians want this to be true because it would affirm their beliefs, so they repeat it constantly in the hopes they manifest it into reality.

>>719739005
Onan got owned for avoiding doing what he was commanded to.

>>719738850
We don't know what atrocities white pagans did or didn't commit because Christians had a monopoly on information in Europe for a thousand years.

>>719732274
Wtf I'm protest now!

>>719738690
seriously though, how do people who don't believe in anything ultimately come to terms with the idea of death? it doesn't seem like they ever do, given as example all these billionaires and whatnot that are pumping money into "immortality research" and all this other type of shit to try and extend their life instead of just coming to terms to the fact they will eventually have to face death.

or how do they even see their children when they first ever get to hold them in their arms? how can they love something that's supposed to be just a "clump of cells" that will come to grow and go through life only to ultimately die and then... just nothing. how do they come to terms with any of those things which just lead to the general idea that everything you do now here in this life means absolutely nothing, so you might as well just do whatever like murder and rape cause once you're dead, you're just dead and nothing matters? how does one realistically even begin to deal with and come to terms with anything that this whole idea of "nothing after death" entails?

>>719739005
>commanded to cum into his wife
>rather spills his seed because "it wouldnt be his child"
>masturbation le ebil
fucking read your bible. most people masturbate because they dont have a hole to cum into.
its more evil to use a condom and have sex with a women if you think about it and how many christians fall under that category?

>>719739026
holy esl

>>719739067
>this argument isn't convincing because i'm biased so i don't want to believe in it, lol.
>i'm very smart and above others btw, did you know i have an IQ in the triple digits and i'm better than everyone else???
>lol, just thought i'd let you know in case you haven't noticed by vastly superior mental faculties haha :)
this is you. you will never be what you think you are.

>>719738850
What the fuck did heathens do? The occasional Viking raid 1,000+ years ago? Please.

>>719739148
How do Christians come to terms with their belief that the vast majority of people will be tortured forever after death for not joining their cult?

>>719732274
Luther was a Jew himself, he was just sour grapping with his melties.

>>719739352
Billions will burn in eternal hellfire (And that's a good thing)

>>719739352
your soul will die, you wont be tortured forever. you just cease to exist. doesnt mean it will be pleasant, will most likely feel like your soul is burning away.

>>719739352
>How do Christians come to terms with the stuff they made up in impotent seething?
Something's for sure? Not my problem

>>719739278
>ackshually, you’re the one that’s biased!
How am I biased for calling out motivated reasoning? You’re clearly working backwards from a desired conclusion. That’s not a method you use when you want to seek truth, that’s a method you use when you want to create a useful narrative

https://store.steampowered.com/app/2266320/The_You_Testament_The_2D_Coming/

This is surprisingly even-handed for a wacky bible game. I'm pretty sure if its like the 3D version you can even recreate the
>Jesus and his whip, casting out the money changers. Also you can use magic!
scene.

>none of the atheists in this thread can write properly
perhaps the best argument for sending your kids to a nice christian private school

>>719739090
Except we know what the ancient greeks and romans did because we still have records from before christianity? Human history extends into the past beyond christianity you know?

>>719738735
Correct, because its a response to your fallacious claim

>>719739454
Your presence literally cannot stop existing, and your container of existence cannot be absent from some place. This is why, when you dream, you have an astral body experiencing other place, but you are in this same plane at the same time in you physical one. This is where re-incarnation comes into play. Jesus taught similar principles, originally.

>>719739592
All atheists are pajeets until they're proven to be israeli mossad posters.

Jews are the unique race on this Earth that seems to be genetically evil and their beliefs and practices are harmful not only to the entire mankind but also to every living being, the nature and consequently, Earth itself.
Really, how come? It's like they were crafted to be evil, the harbingers of doom.
They will burn down the entire planet if it's for their greedy goals.

>>719739352
Easily. It will feel as if justice has been done and served since you are, by your sinful nature alone, a criminal deserving of death in the eyes of a Perfectly Good God and will be dealt with as such unless you repent and ask Christ to forgive and save you. Your punishment will be deserved and you will be made aware of it upon death as well unless you eventually come to repent in your living life and be saved.

>>719739309
Genghis khan, millions of chinamen cannibalizing each other, millions of indians crushing each other to death under juggernaughts, africans killing each other for their gods. The list goes on.

>>719739592
>Bro you have to write long paragraphs of gobbledygook for your null statement bro

>>719739592
Again with this
>If you're not christian, you're an atheist
Since when your desert cult get the monopoly of god, huh?

Honestly I will always tip the fattest fedora than be a christnigspic any day.

>>719739627
>Jesus taught similar principles, originally.
no, it was Jesus that talked about the second death of the soul.
>Your presence literally cannot stop existing, and your container of existence cannot be absent from some place
you exist because God upholds your existence. there is no existence outside of God. when you decide you dont want to exist together with God you cease to exist since there is no existence outside of God.
Jesus Christ is the way to God, there is no other. rejecting Christ and the shedding of his blood for you is rejecting the atoning death of the Son of God for you.

>>719736008
>you are called upon not to pass judgement
>doesn't read the rest of the thing in context
every. single. time.

>>719736301
Mormons are a perverted Christian cult

>>719736649
You're a fucking frogposting piece of shit.

>>719739680
Also don't forget in the Americas with the Aztecs ripping the hearts and beheading women and child sacrifices on the belief that the sun will not rise until this blood tithe is paid. Thry found anti-chambers in Mexico City filled with THOUSANDS of headless skeletons, so many headless skeletons that they quickly resealed it because it would have shown the Aztecs killing women and children for THOUSANDS of years for every single sunrise until Cortez came to put a stop to it.

>>719739715
because God said so. he can do what he wants. he is God after all.

>>719739812
>you exist because God upholds your existence. there is no existence outside of God. when you decide you dont want to exist together with God you cease to exist since there is no existence outside of God.
You are so close, man.
>Jesus Christ is the way to God, there is no other. rejecting Christ and the shedding of his blood for you is rejecting the
But unfortunately, your retardation blinds you.

>>719739148
By coming to realize the truth: meaning can only be derived from finitude, and eternity is antithetical to life. You have to understand, eternity destroys all meaning, it flattens it and stretches it out to nothing. Eternal life is an oxymoron. Finitude can only provide meaning because meaning, and all life, is bound by time, because to live is to experience change, and to experience change is to exist within time. To get rid of that is to render life void. Everything ends, anon. It’s not a bad thing, it gives reality structure.

>>719739821
Technically a Jewish cult, like Christianity
Analogous

>>719739934
so you hold the belief that you are god upholding yourself?

>>719739887
>MY jewish tales said that you're going to hell Jimmy!
Is this what was going trough Dante's mind when writing the Divine Comedy?
>>719740000
I don't believe in nothing. I'm at home with the facts.

>>719739974
christianity is the continuation of scripture, not an offshoot of the OT.

>>719739974
Similar, yes, but Mormonism explicitly sprang off of Christianity, so it's a cult of a cult

A meta analysis of 83 studies also shows an extremely significant inverse correlation between intelligence and religiosity by the way even when controlling for a myriad of socioeconomic factors:
https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/0146167219879122

>>719739817
Changes literally nothing

>>719727650 (OP)
>>>/pol/
>>>/x/
Why do you assholes feel that you're welcomed here?

>>719740086
>>719740094
Fair

>>719740086
Which biblical prophecies did Christ fulfill?

>>719740047
do you take dante as some kind of authority? its full of bs.

>>719740047
>I don't believe in nothing.
then what do you believe in?

>>719740145
>punjabi or mossad kike so thoroughly verbally buckbroken in this thread he has to bring /pol/ out of nowhere
Kekaroo.

>>719740202
Catholics do

>>719740157
all of them. you cant read the OT without seeing the picture of Jesus Christ painted everywhere throughout.

>>719740105
yes, christian people are on average smarter than the average atheists since they're the major foundation upon which everything you have today has been made, researched and constructed through. explorers were christians, inventors were christians, researches were christians. but keep coping like the double digit dunning kruger midwit that you are.

>>719740235
Historically speaking /v/ has an intrinsic link to pol

>>719739668
Oh right, the eternal torture is deserved because 6000 years ago two people ate a fruit they weren't supposed to. Holy shit you people are insane.

>>719740202
Ah here we go. The cornered god botherer decides to try and start an epistemological debate in which "without a source of universal truth, you have to have faith in your eyes ears blah blah blah"

>>719739148
>life extension research is ... le bad!

>>719740238
>catholics do
do you know how many heretical practices there are in roman catholicism?
they pray more to a queen of heaven than God.

>>719740157
literally all of them, lol.

>>719740296
Lol, no science before Christ huh

>>719740235
>Kekaroo
Favorite character. NOW.

>>719740350
I simply asked what you believe in since I have no fucking idea lmao.
most likely some new age bs that is rooted in satanism.

>>719739950
To expand on this or maybe just re-state it slightly differently: meaning does not emanate from some higher platonic realm. It is created, destroyed, and re-created by living creatures experiencing change via time. It cannot exist any other way. Anyone arguing to carry meaning from beyond time, from eternity, is only trying to create more meaning within the confines of linear time, because that is the only way to be alive. Eternal life is a lie, not because someone is trying to scam you, but because the very concept negates itself. To live is to change. To live eternally is to never change again. Before you argue against that, ask yourself, does heaven allow you to change your mind? To improve yourself? To make a mistake? Or does your faith and actions within linear time decide how you are for the rest of eternity? And if so, what is that if not death dressed in fine linen?

>>719740447
I'm not that anon, I'm atheist so I don't have some kind of "universal belief system". I can just recognize that's the bullshit you're trying to pull because I see it all the time.

>>719740145
Why do you hate fun?

>>719740291
>Zephaniah 3:13
>Isaiah 2:3
>Jeremiah 23:8
>Hosea 3:5
"No!"

One thing all denominations agree on is that we should judge by the fruit of the tree, “you will know them by their fruit”, then let's compare the fruit that the 2 most important denominations have given us:
Catholicism:
>Practiced by violent 3rd world shit skins mostly
>Created Mexicans
>The fringe branches of catholicism are a syncretism between black magic, voodoo shit and sacrificial rituals to Santa Muerte
Protestantism:
>Practiced in white countries, 1st World countries
>Lay the foundations for democracy, natural science and America
>Mormonism, the most relevant fringe branch of protestantism is a cult to American exceptionalism that teaches racial consciousness and exhorts white people to have children
Conclussion: Protestantism is based, catholicism is brown

>>719740235
What fucking board does this "discussion" belongs on? Give us an answer, you stupid faggot, because it doesn't belong on /v/!

>>719740291
>>719740379
NTA, but please give some actual examples.

>>719740531
you are free to believe whatever you do.
I wont even attempt to try to convince you since its fucking pointless if the person in not desperate for answers.

i'm feeling 4chan start to accept the lord into their hearts minute by minute

a new age has begun

>>719740692
so long as i have a five day work week for $16/hr. and it's still not above the poverty line i'm gonna need a lot more love from god for convincing

>>719740202
I already told you, i don't believe in anything at all because believing is useless. Dogmas are not facts. This is why religion is not needed to acknowledge truth, there's a myriad of them, and most of it is a waste of time. The truth is that which never changes, and every aspect of the world around you, including ephemeral cultural flavors are part of the field of change, and by themselves they are not worth a damn.

>>719740419
Bejitabros, explain yourselves?!

>>719740639
exodus, the slaying of the spotless lamb. for example.
Isaac the son of Abraham is a picture of Jesus Christ for the only begotten son (abraham had another son beforehand).
Joshua and the angel of God as a conquerer.
etc.

but basically if you cut out the pictures of Jesus Christ out of the OT you end up with an empty bible.

>>719740943
verses?

>>719740692
I'm pretty much done with this globohomo society expecting you to work until you die. Can God please hurry up with the anointing already?

>>719740576
all of them were fulfilled if you are a true believer and have the understanding given to you.

i genuinely hate this fucking website and don't even know why i keep coming here

for fuck's sake you have your own boards to talk about this horseshit you fucking numbskulls

>>719740296
>muh midwit meme
the average midwit still believes in god dumbfuck. the dumbest and biggest shithole countries in the world tend to be the most religious
get btfo by 83 peer reviewed studies

>>719740332
>ignores the entire thing he just read so he can immediately default to the garden of Eden as a way to escape having to address the fact he's a sinful degenerate who, out of his own free will, chose to engage with and do the most heinous things imaginable that are deserving of them when face with a Holy God who is nothing but Pure Good and who doesn't tolerate evil
No, you will be there because you deserve it due to your own actions that you chose to engage in. You have lied to people. You have cursed them. You have stolen something at some point in your life. You lust over others, which by its very essence causes adultery in the heart, even if you did not physically commit it. You are angry and bitter and resentful or jealous and envious with others and wish harm upon them, which in essence is the same as having committed murder even without physically doing it. You are, by all accounts, a vile criminal deserving of punishment.

Either you eventually come to terms with that in your waking life then beg God to forgive you and help put you on the right way towards Him, or be made ware of all this I'm telling you being the truth upon your death when you will no longer be able to do anything to atone for any of the things you have done or said and will be send straight to the pits of Hell with the rest of the demons, allowed to be tormented and burned by your own actions throughout life. You will come to experience everything you have ever done to cause harm upon others from their own point of view, and you will feel their own emotions in the moment, and you will be tormented over and over again by that as one of the many ways you'll be dealt with done there. There will be no escape for you. Every single thing you feel so proud of and high above it all right now and smug about, you will be stripped of and made as miserable as possible with no room for any positive emotion or reaction to anything whatsoever. It will just be constant fear and torment. Repent.

>>719740820
its not about religion but faith.
everyone is an atheist until the point were they desperately need faith and hope, just remember Jesus Christ is always there once your time comes.

>>719741067
calm down bro

everything will be fine

jesus loves you more than you could ever know

>>719741124
Fuck off you sadistic suffering fetishist.

>>719741053
May you explain how there's currently no sin in the world?

>>719740995
all of the OT.

>>719740943
Seems like you're going about this backwards.
Rather you should say that if you cut out the parts that the NT copied from the OT, you'd have an empty Bible.

>>719741267
non-answer
concession pre-accepted

>>719741067
This site needs a religion board ASAP, even /lit/ goes to shit for a lack of one.
>>719741174
You are wasting your time dude

>>719741240
there is no sin in my life.
for you or others it might be different, but I am cleansed and dont have any desire to act against the Lords commands.
as I said, for a true believer all the prophecies are already fulfilled.
for an unbeliever on the other hand...

>>719741067
There's 10 other pages of threads to read if you don't like this one.

>>719741376
>there is no sin in my life.
Before you proceed, I'd like you to know that lying is a sin.

>>719741337
lmao, are you ok?
OT-->points to--->Jesus<---points to<--NT

>>719741339
???
the entire point of the bible is to show you God. start to finish.

>>719741124
NTA
>No, you will be there because you deserve it due to your own actions that you chose to engage in. You have lied to people. You have cursed them. You have stolen something at some point in your life. You lust over others, which by its very essence causes adultery in the heart, even if you did not physically commit it. You are angry and bitter and resentful or jealous and envious with others and wish harm upon them, which in essence is the same as having committed murder even without physically doing it. You are, by all accounts, a vile criminal deserving of punishment.
Shouldn't repentance and atonement cover this? Why is a specific sort of faith required instead?
Someone harmed my family, he should atone or be punished, not be able to use faith as a get out of hell free card.

>>719741438
good thing that God isnt a liar.
Jeremiah 31
33 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, declares the Lord: I will put my law within them, and I will write it on their hearts. And I will be their God, and they shall be my people. 34 And no longer shall each one teach his neighbor and each his brother, saying, ‘Know the Lord,’ for they shall all know me, from the least of them to the greatest, declares the Lord. For I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.”

>>719741329
>No argument
NTA, but is he wrong? Why is /v/ a dumpster for this shit?

>>719741124
>No, you will be there because you deserve it due to your own actions that you chose to engage in. You have lied to people. You have cursed them. You have stolen something at some point in your life. You lust over others, which by its very essence causes adultery in the heart, even if you did not physically commit it. You are angry and bitter and resentful or jealous and envious with others and wish harm upon them, which in essence is the same as having committed murder even without physically doing it. You are, by all accounts, a vile criminal deserving of punishment.
none of this, not a single thing, is deserving of eternal punishment. You have to understand, there is not a single thing any person can do or has done on this planet that deserves eternal punishment. Yes, even the horrible example you’ve come up with in your mind. The other one too. None of them. Not even Hitler or Stalin or any historical killer. If there is nothing we can do to merit eternal salvation, then there is nothing we can do to deserve eternal punishment.

>>719741124
>No, you will be there because you deserve it due to your own actions that you chose to engage in. You have lied to people. You have cursed them. You have stolen something at some point in your life. You lust over others, which by its very essence causes adultery in the heart, even if you did not physically commit it. You are angry and bitter and resentful or jealous and envious with others and wish harm upon them, which in essence is the same as having committed murder even without physically doing it. You are, by all accounts, a vile criminal deserving of punishment.
Do you have any proof that i did any of that?

>>719741487
You still haven't given any examples of OT prophecies and their fulfillment.

>>719737942
>omori image
worst than being a christcuck

>>719727650 (OP)
Arguably any Lord of the Rings game.

>>719741693
Cuckstains riding the Gamergate wave to push their puritan beliefs on people, basically political opportunism and a captive audience to spam your unhinged Cuckstain manifestos

>>719741124
Jannies and Anons, the paragon of virtue right here.

you know what? FINE i'll just say it

EVERY KNEE SHALL BEND

EVERY TONGUE SHALL CONFESS

CHRIST IS KING

there i said it

NOW LEAVE US ALONE

>>719741862
Ok, fine, you're saved, you're excused, go play video games.

>>719741768
The fact that you're raging like a demon, constantly insulting everyone that speaks against you and using cuss words for everything already proves the fact you're full of wrath, bitterness and malice, which are already a sin in themselves. So even if by some means you didn't do anything else listed there (you did, you're just lying that you haven't, God knows regardless) , you are still committing sin by acting like a violent, uncouth criminal.

>>719741940
y-you too

>>719737204
xd

>>719727650 (OP)
Stronghold Crusader get the Definitive Edition which was released not long ago
they have plans to add more features till December, being able to build our own custom Lords
more maps/campaigns and finally working multiplayer and an unit count almost to 10k (in extreme mode)

>>719741862
that doesn't work. unless you actually believe in it, it holds no weight. God knows you inside and out and knows whether you're being honest or not.

>>719741862
Lol fuck off Jew

Mods? Any reason why this thread is still up?

>>719735513
When will we get our Aalewis

Why does Christianity appeal to black and brown people so much?

>>719741829
Jesus Christ is their fulfillment, every single one.
if you are not in Jesus Christ then ofc you cant see them being fulfilled. the kingdom of God is within, you dont see it with your eyes or touch it with your hands.
that changes the moment you repent and are born again, then you are aware of the kingdom of God and all prophecies being fulfilled.
you want a physical fulfillment of the kingdom like the jews did and rejected their king.

>>719741757
NTA, but it feels like genocide-level crimes are worthy of eternal punishment.

>>719741945
>The fact that you're raging like a demon
Do you have any proof that i did any of that?

>>719741862
you can just close the thread that is explicitly about christianity at any point buddy. nobody forces you to be here.

>>719742136
>you just... dont get it
Lmao

>>719742143
They genuinely are not. I’m not kidding. You could push the button to kill every single person on this planet right now, and you still will not deserve eternal punishment.

Anyone arguing otherwise lacks an understanding of what eternity is.

>>719742027
>Accept christ
>Noooo not like thaaat
You people are mental basket cases, you know that?

>>719742048
>putting your faith in mods and jannies instead of in the Savior
Why?

>>719742048
They're in for the joke the bunch of them lol

>>719742136
You keep dodging the question. I'm starting to doubt you have any actual answers.

>>719742247
You wouldn't be on this site if you was really religious

>>719742206
kek, just like the bible predicted. I mean just read John, its full of OT scripture that Jesus fulfilled. here is the part about you.

John 12
When Jesus had said these things, he departed and hid himself from them. 37 Though he had done so many signs before them, they still did not believe in him, 38 so that the word spoken by the prophet Isaiah might be fulfilled:

“Lord, who has believed what he heard from us,
and to whom has the arm of the Lord been revealed?”

39 Therefore they could not believe. For again Isaiah said,

40 “He has blinded their eyes
and hardened their heart,
lest they see with their eyes,
and understand with their heart, and turn,
and I would heal them.”

41 Isaiah said these things because he saw his glory and spoke of him.

>>719742323
same applies to you >>719742346
read John

>>719734014
>sudden
Theyve always been around youre just findoling their arguments more concerningly accurate because jews are accelerating us to the end times like we said they would.

>>719742323
Anon, this is how they operate, circular arguments and just making a sacred goat over a lie, their cult have no real answers.

>>719739592
I did write two posts for why the central promise of Christianity is false, here >>719739950
>>719740464
But no one’s taken me up on arguing against it. Which sucks, because I do find the subject fascinating and have been trying to find more Christian apologia written in regards to it.

>>719742227
You did not accept Him. You're just treating this as something you just wave away that doesn't matter. Proof is right there in the post you just made immediately just going back on it and insulting the thing you just falsely attempted vowing to. That will do nothing but cause you even worse issues down the line. Whenever you inevitable break down completely and have to actually truly come to Him and beg Him to help you out, remember to also ask Him to forgive you for having done what you did just now and falsely swearing to Him only to them immediately turn back on it and curse Him and His people.

>>719742547
>Proof is right there in the post you just made immediately just going back on it and insulting the thing you just falsely attempted vowing to.
Do you have any proof that i did any of that?

>>719742332
did Jesus sit and eat with the noblemen and priests or with the sinner and tax collectors?
where else would you go with Christ than the dregs of the internet?
I was here long before you as a sinner myself.

>>719742467
hey man, I cant force you to read the word of God yourself.
I cant make you see if you insist on staying blind you know.
read the NT and the OT and ask God to show you his glory. sometimes you have to put some effort in yourself you know. its between God and you, not God, me and then you.

>>719742467
Thats not what circular logic means

>>719742583
kill yourself

>>719742487
fuck time. its sucks. I want to look at glory after glory without having to get tired and sleep all the time just for everything to get worse.

>>719742467
you don't know what cults are

>>719742725
This. But you get the point.

>>719742709
>>719742593

>>719742739
>immediately froths at the mouth and rages out like a demon possessed lunatic

>>719742790
Time is what allows you to experience looking at glory. Removing it removes the meaning of glory.

>>719742346
>>719742435
>Isaiah prophesized that one day someone would disagree with the Bible
>someone disagreed with Jesus, therefore the prophecy was fulfilled
You're disagreeing with me right now, doesn't that mean you're fulfilling the prophecy and the OT was actually talking about me?

>>719742816
If your organization depends entirely of people buying false narratives, teachings and mental frameworks, and deliberately ignore the facts, in order to carry on some vague objective, odds are, that you're in a cult. Fortunately, you can always call it quits, it's not a big deal really.

>>719742958
you ever did something you were really into to the point you forgot time existed and when you looked up 8 hours have already past?
well, cut the clock out and you have an idea of eternity.

>>719735513
>were

>>719743019
proof that what Christianity says is false?

>>719743009
I just said the OT is talking about you lol.
thats what is so neat about the bible, it has everything covered from the get go.

>>719727650 (OP)
kingdom come kind of

>>719737942
>troonmori
Deserved

>>719743138
Proof that what Christianity says is real? Why your religion in particular, that claims that others outside traditions are "demonic" despite being there first, is the "only and true one"?

>>719742830
There's zero politics in this thread. Wouldn't it be an /x/ thread?

>>719743019
>in order to carry on some vague objective
This is how I know you haven't even read the Bible and are just talking out your ass, thus proving you don't actually know what cults are and just attribute that word to anything you don't like or disagree with. There's a very clear and concise objective for Christians written down in the Bible to follow through with, but you wouldn't know since you didn't read nor do you care to know since you're stuck in your ways thinking you somehow have genius level IQ and knowledge above literally everyone else out there despite not doing anything in life to warrant that belief, you just overly inflated it by yourself to feel better about falling short of whatever expectations you used to have for yourself or your life the past.

>>719743019
the bible predicted false teachers in sheeps clothing that corrupt the teachings and false believers tho.
so why quit something that predicts everything so accurate? faith isnt a cult to begin with and religion is a human creation.

>>719739148
How do you force yourself to believe something with zero evidence? That seems way crazier to me. Hundreds of religions and you're so sure you happened to be born to the only right one.

>>719743159
"Someone's gonna disagree with me" isn't much of a prophecy. It's bound to happen over the course of time; it's like predicting that a building will eventually crumble or that someone will one day have a fight with his brother. It's bound to happen.

>>719743078
Eternity simply being a forever flow state does nothing to resolve the central question: how can that be meaningful?

>>719743228
because the bible says that God alotted other gods over the other nations because they rebelled against him.
pantheism in pagan cultures are the other corrupt gods.
everyone was under a false god besides Abraham who was chosen by God alone to form a nation and people for him.

>>719742826
Not really. I do think 4chan is one of the most arrogant corners of the internet and that arrogance is the root of denial of christ. Also i personally think that the christian minds before the 1900's understood the human psyche a lot better before the jewish influence of modern day (psuedo)"psychology" that we have today. Actually come to think of it this has pretty much spred to all of our education. Not that this applies to you, just saying its something to keep in mind who was keeping us on the right path until the ww2

>>719743489
Sounds like mortal cope. Meaning doesn't require something to be finite.

>>719743434
its something different when God told you about it over thousands of years ago.
its God saying there will be building in the future that will crumble because I put it there, I will write it down for you, so keep out.

>>719743228
The Caananites who sacrificed their children to Moloch, a bull headed demon and engage in all manners of vile sex rituals and other shit like that weren't "demonic" because... uhh... they just weren't, okay???

I guess Medieval doctors believing your body functions based on multiple different types of "humors" instead of what's agreed upon now and that illnesses were caused by having a certain imbalance of humors to which the treatment was usually bloodletting or drinking urine were actually right since they were there first with that idea and modern doctors should just revert back to that practice instead cause it was clearly older than what me have now, thus obviously better and in the right.

>>719743530
>because the bible says
And what about the Vedas? Or what Plato and Plotinus says? They talked about God BEFORE all that, so what's special about this one?

>>719743642
How is being agnostic more arrogant than being sure that you were born into the one true faith that ever existed out of thousands? I admit I don't know, but I won't worship something I'm not sure of.

>>719743489
>how can a time that you enjoyed spending be meaningful lol
am I talking to a wall here?
did you never enjoy a videogame and forget the time?

>>719743276
Considering that the anons went with racist responses, I'd say it fits.

>>719743642
It's always funny the fact that just being bold enough pointing out the truth is seemed as "arrogant", but i really couldn't care less. Let the truth be arrogant, you don't fool anyone with this stuff anyway.

>>719743649
>Meaning doesn’t require something to be finite
Thank you for addressing my actual argument, even if it does nothing to resolve it. But to your point, yes, meaning requires finitude. Or more accurately, meaning only ever arises FROM finitude. Name something eternal yet meaningful. Odds are you’re either going to name something meaningless, or something you don’t realize is actually finite.

>>719743683
If it specified exactly which building and which day, even which decade, you'd have something. But a general "the sun will rise in the East" prophecy really isn't convincing.

Medieval 2 crusade expansion and conquest of the Americas

>>719743691
did I fucking stutter when I said God put other gods over other nations?
he is the one that made sure false gods gave these niggers their vedas and pantheons to believe in and wrote it down so we know about them.

>>719743789
>muh racism
kek atheists really are stuck in 2011 internet niggerhell

>>719743815
I addressed your argument because I'm not that retard. I can't give a concrete example because nothing is eternal. But taking something finite and making it eternal doesn't automatically strip it of meaning. Would you love the Earth any less if you had absolute assurance it would last forever? What about the sun?

I don't appreciate a sunny day because it will end, I appreciate it because it's warm and feels good. I would prefer Summer if it never ended honestly.

>>719743894
>>719743530
NTA, but if the big G G)D put small g gods in charge of other nations, aren't those nations doing his will by worshiping their gods?

>>719743780
No, not at all! I don’t want to just repeat shit until you give up. But saying something is enjoyable does not mean it is enjoyable forever, and eternity flattens out all sensation. I understand the analogy you’re making, I just don’t think it’s viable.

>>719743938
Pretty hypocritical, anon.

>>719743845
nah, he described the building down to a t with every crumbling brick in minute detail.
he is God after all, he knew everyone in and out before they were even born and gave us a detailed description in his Word so his people arent fooled.

>>719743425
Literally just ask God to give you "proof" in whatever way He sees fit you will personally understand it and He will. But you will immediately scoff at the idea, never do it, then continue to just mock when you haven't even tried doing the one thing that would actually give you whatever "proof" you want over anything. It's not like anyone could ever concoct something up for you specifically that will somehow convince you of anything since you w ill STILL find a way to twisting anything you're told against whoever tried to give you an answers just so you can continue to deny it.

Either go directly to God and humbly ask Him to actually show you the truth for what it is or stop trying to get some kind of answer from others that you hope would somehow please you because you're quite literally never going to get one since ever explanation you would get for anything from another human being, you will immediately shoot down so you can continue feeling morally and mentally superior in your unbelief. You don't want answers, you just want arguments to scoff at and "deboonk" to feed your own ego. If you truly wanted the truth, you'd go ask God directly to just reveal it to you for what it is.

>>719743974
THIS THIS THIS
I would love life all the more if I had eternal youth.
And endless summer sounds nice, though I'd just prefer a shorter winter and a longer summer.

>>719743789
>Just a couple of images of black people is enough
You're such a marshmallow

>>719743975
he put them there as punishment lol.
>go out into the world and fill it
>lol nah we will build a city that will reach heaven in babel :^)
>ok, lets see how that turns out for you

>>719743789
>CTRL-F nig
>9 matches
That's extremely low for a thread this long. Or are you referring to something else?

Christ is King!

>>719743974
>Would you love the Earth any less if you had absolute assurance it would last forever? What about the sun?
Now we’re getting down to brass tacks: yes I would, and you would too. Love is a finite resource which makes it precious and meaningful.

>I don't appreciate a sunny day because it will end, I appreciate it because it's warm and feels good. I would prefer Summer if it never ended honestly.
But you do appreciate it because it will end, otherwise you wouldn’t care if it passes you by. You know that summer will eventually pass into fall and then winter, and that you won’t always be around to see it come around again, and eventually in the deep deep future, it won’t come around ever again.
Likewise, you know that life is fleeting and ephemeral, which is why you want to live well and fully. If it never ended, you wouldn’t care about living.

>>719727650 (OP)
Crusader Kings

>>719743985
>and eternity flattens out all sensation
bro, every sensation and enjoyment you can have on earth is absolutely nothing compared to a second in heaven.
true christians arent so excited for eternity with God for no reason.
all the enjoyment here is fucking goyslop compared to what God has to offer.

>>719743894
So in your lore, this desert God of yours, that came after the all pervasive platonic God, is the actual big guy of the place, despite being recorded after said civilizations, and borrowing a bunch of stuff from Mesopotamic/Babylonian material, and just slapping a chronicle of some semitic people acting like retards across nations, is the ACTUAL only considerable truth? This is your case?

>>719744029
What the fuck is this insane rant. I just won't believe in anything with no proof sorry dude. And praying and feeling tingling in your balls isn't proof.

If Zeus came down and started smiting he would get my worship, short of that I'm not interested. Apparently this motherfucker is doing miracles left and right 2k years ago and now he can't do shit.

>>719744016
Please cite the OT chapter and verses that give those minute details.

>>719744262
>immediately does what I just said he would
Either ask God for proof or don't ask at all.
You will never get a response to your liking because you will continue to reject every single response you are given. Ask God to show you the truth or stay in your pit.

>>719744216
This is a you problem bud I assure you. I would appreciate life even more without the arbitrary time limit and aging bullshit.

It's fine if you feel the way you do, but you can't assume everyone feels the same way. And your claim of "if you were eternal you'd get sick of shit" is kind of pointless because you never know until you experience it.

I get that stories love writing the world weary immortal, but I bet it would be fine. I appreciate Summer because it's amazing every day and every other season is shit. If I could freeze us at like July 25th or so I would and drag you all along with me. I love engaging in nothing but my favourite shit and no I don't get sick of it. I could eat Pizza every meal for the rest of my life.

>>719744110
>TO YOU VEDIC NIGGERS I GIVE YOU MY BEAUTIFUL FOREST AND MEADOWS TO SURROUND YOU IN NATURE, NOW FUCK OFF
>Ah, Abraham, my dear, my son, here's some desert in the middle of nowhere for your people <3
You can't make this shit up

>>719744251
>that came after the all pervasive platonic God
he came before.
>despite being recorded after said civilizations
God was there before the flood happened. all civilizations we know about came after the flood with their false gods.
>semitic people acting like retards across nations
they had a very separate recording compared to other nations.
also they eradicated child sacrificing cults, so they are based and not retarded.
>This is your case?
yes, child sacrifice and abortions are an abomination. who could ever be in favor of that?

>>719744361
I prayed when I was younger dude. My attempt to go super saiyan was a better use of my time desu.

>>719727650 (OP)
Castlevania

We need /a/'s mods for /v/.

>>719744283
its in the NT actually
2 Timothy 3
3 But understand this, that in the last days there will come times of difficulty. 2 For people will be lovers of self, lovers of money, proud, arrogant, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy, 3 heartless, unappeasable, slanderous, without self-control, brutal, not loving good, 4 treacherous, reckless, swollen with conceit, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, 5 having the appearance of godliness, but denying its power. Avoid such people.

>>719744395
>I appreciate Summer because it's amazing every day and every other season is shit. If I could freeze us at like July 25th or so I would and drag you all along with me

AAAAAH I SHOULDN'T HAVE GIVEN ANON TIME POWERS

Reminder that there is only one god: Lord Moloch, the insane demon god who hates everything good.

>>719744236
>bro, every sensation and enjoyment you can have on earth is absolutely nothing compared to a second in heaven.
Don’t stop at a second. What comes after? And then after that? And then after that? Can there be change? Does it get better? Can you be better? Or are you locked into the pattern you established in your earthly life for eternity? If so, what makes that different from death as an atheist views it?
>true christians arent so excited for eternity with God for no reason.
The vast majority of Christians have a child’s view of eternity.
>all the enjoyment here is fucking goyslop compared to what God has to offer.
All God has to offer is glory, but there exists nothing after that.

>>719744468
Why are they false? If anything, is the Hebrew scripture that borrows a bunch of shit from everywhere possible and created their all powerful OC donut steel that does everything for them. Even the concept of hell is Greek stuff, and Jesus refer to it as "Hades".

>>719744216
>Love is a finite resource which makes it precious and meaningful.
But the heart is infinite.

>>719744449
>in the middle of nowhere
Israel is smack in the meeting place of three continents, it's not the middle of nowhere. It's the middle of EVERYWHERE.

>>719744449
the levant isnt some fucking desert you uneducated nigger.
you have the Jordan, the sea of Galilea, the fucking mediterranen, olives, cedars, wine, honey, fresh water springs etc. it is a rich region and always has been.
its more north than fucking egypt and they were a rich ancient region.

>>719743750
Agnostism is obviously a default, isnt it obvious in the very term faith?
On the inverse, you can always tell a j*w by using arrogant language like "the truth" >>719743813 because they believe they are all gnostic because they worship the devil. Now thats some insanity.
Christianity is not only what developed the west, it's the only major world religion that names the jew*
*no islam saying doesnt count instructing to kill jews, since it instructs to kill ALL non-muslims
*lol lmao even to pagans LARPERS trying to source some new age shit

>>719744643
There you go. You don't worship dogshit of worth, you just simp for Israel. Can't help it?

>>719744262
sorry but you 100% believe tons of things without proof and it's untenable to say otherwise. do you KNOW you have a brain in your head? have you opened up and checked? no, you go by the evidence. do you KNOW your family loves you? how do you know they dont secretly hate you? prove that they're not lying. you can't prove anything in this world actually, you are forced to accept speculation based on evidence. do you KNOW dinosaurs walked around 300000000 years ago and died to a meteor? how did you PROVE it? do you KNOW that other planets are trillions of miles away? PROVE it

>>719744701
>you uneducated nigger.
Woah there anon, i thought Christians couldn't be racist? Sinful much??? I deserve some of that salvation stuff too, just share me a little

>>719744395
>I would appreciate life even more without the arbitrary time limit and aging bullshit.
No, you would appreciate a much longer life. I would too. But I think deep down you know that eventually you’ll require an ending, you’ll require change. It’s part of being alive.

>It's fine if you feel the way you do, but you can't assume everyone feels the same way. And your claim of "if you were eternal you'd get sick of shit" is kind of pointless because you never know until you experience it.
Maybe so, but there is reason the world weary immortal is a popular trope: being deprived of an end is infinitely worse than it coming too soon.

>>719744749
Where do you think we are?

>>719744776
THERE IT IS
IF NO GOD THEN BRAIN IN JAR

>>719744636
>What comes after? And then after that? And then after that? Can there be change? Does it get better? Can you be better?
ofc, its the opposite of earth. instead of everything getting worse over time everything will get better and more glorious. also you dont die so you will see all of it.
do you imagine heaven as some boring place lol? heaven comes to earth and can be experienced in all its glory for eternity.
>The vast majority of Christians have a child’s view of eternity.
how would you know?
>All God has to offer is glory, but there exists nothing after that.
if that is what your outlook is I feel genuinely sad for you. you have never seen true beauty in the first place since everything on earth is corrupted.

>>719744776
Holy projection. Truths are self evident btw.

Christian "followers" arguing in a thread made under false pretenses. And here I thought lying was a sin.

>>719744553
>People will act like people
Wow, what a prophecy.
"In the last days", this applies to people everywhere all the time.
This is the very opposite of prophesying minute details that I was inquiring about.

>>719744521
Mods that mod least mod best.

>>719744639
have you read some about the pagan gods of the greeks or vedas?
they were full on degenerates, practicing bestiality, incest, castrations, rape, murder etc.
man fuck that. look into these other gods and their stories. you have never read or seen anything more vile after that.

>She throated the donkey most vigorously, the bulge was witnessed by Jeshua prodding at the inside of her belly.
-Pornografians 1:21

>>719744890
exactly, and when you look around this creation with your eyes you barely even comprehend what you're seeing. you dont even know what you are, your brain is just activating neurons using electricity. do you even know how your body generates electricity? do you understand how much order and logic is in the world around you - do you seriously think it came from chaos and disorder and randomness? ALL the food you have ever eaten grows out of the ground infinitely replenishing itself, ALL the water you need literally falls from heaven itself. you're in a place that was intentionally created for you to thrive in and you sit here going "no, it must be from when nothingness exploded for no reason because thats what scientists told me". even though its SO OBVIOUS considering there is objective morality on earth. ALL humans objectively know that hurting an innocent child is bad, how do we know that? how are there moral laws our bodies instinctively know without a law-maker? the fact you have guilt, remorse, intuition, etc is extremely indicative of there being a higher power

>>719744920
>Mods that mod least mod best
Yeah, because these threads should be allowed for faggots like you, right?

>>719744713
Wat? What does that have to do with my post?

>>719744749
Silksong drops tomorrow, in 48 hours you'll look back on this thread and miss it when /v/ goes full hivemind for the game.

>>719744998
>they were full on degenerates, practicing bestiality, incest, castrations, rape, murder etc.
Do you have any proof of any of that? Or it just happens that your appointed rabbi already filled you in on "problematic cultures"?

>>719744251
it doesnt have to be the first religion to be correct, yes, satan has been around since creation, he was around since adam and eve, and babylonians worshipped satan and there have been tons of pre-christianity satan worshipping tribes all over the world. so what? after enough lawlessness God decided to incarnate in order to teach us how to live a proper life because clearly humanity was lost

>>719745050
>your brain is just activating neurons using electricity
Wtf i thought we were made in the image of god bros, what is this shit

>>719744806
>nnooo, you cant hurt my feefees, your supposed to be a soft kitty cat
stfu nigger, God used more harsh language in scripture.
>I deserve some of that salvation stuff too
were sinful humans, we deserve nothing but death and agony. its Jesus Christ alone who is gracious enough to die for you and offer you salvation.
its you who keeps rejecting him and calling him a retard. think about that more often.

>>719744920
>Mods that mod least mod best.
"no please I just come here for culture war and soijaks, anything but good moderation!"

>>719734014
I was always a Christian (been here for 16 years) I just don't bring up my faith here because I wan to talk about vidya

>>719744878
>ofc, its the opposite of earth. instead of everything getting worse over time everything will get better and more glorious. also you dont die so you will see all of it.
How can heaven be better than what it already is? It’s the best. You think God is keeping the volume low until you arrive? How will you see all of eternity? It doesn’t end, it’s oxymoronic. How will your life on earth have any meaning when an innumerate amount of ages have passed in heaven for you since? How can life here have meaning? Can you change your mind in heaven?
>how would you know?
Not to get snippy, but talking to you isn’t disabusing me of that notion.
>if that is what your outlook is I feel genuinely sad for you. you have never seen true beauty in the first place since everything on earth is corrupted.
It’s your outlook too. To be in heaven is to be united with the glory of God, forever, to look into his face and be united with his love. That is what Christ promises. What is beyond God’s glory?

>>719745064
>Silksong drops tomorrow, in 48 hours you'll look back on this thread and miss it when /v/ goes full hivemind for the game.
in 48 hours at least this board will be talking about videogames

>>719745181
Satan existed before god? Won't that make Satan "God" instead?
>>719745216
A marshmallow AND autistic. It seems that your god has punished you twice for what i can gather from our little exchange.

>>719745064
>Silksong drops tomorrow, in 48 hours you'll look back on this thread and miss it when /v/ goes full hivemind for the game.
The video game board discussing video games?! The horror!!

>>719745193
?? how is there any contradiction between what i said and what you said? yes, the human body was made in the IMAGE of God. its like how a glove was made in the image of a hand, without a hand to fit inside it the glove is useless. you are an eternal soul that is piloting temporary flesh, and you experience this whole creation via electricity, which is basically God's language. electricity flows through all living things, and all matter in fact has electrons in it

>>719744472
>I prayed when I was younger dude.
If it didn't seem to work for you at that point in time, how would that invalidate the chance it would now if you haven't even tried it again?

Think of whatever it is you specifically want to ask about, make it clear you don't even believe in Him to begin with and that you feel retarded or schizophrenic for even trying to talk out loud to something you don't seem to believe in then just say if you would be willing to believe if you did get some kind of sign from God, and if He is real and willing, to show it to you in whatever way He sees fit would best work for you specifically.

Best case, you eventually get some kind of revelation, worse case, you just feel stupid about it. Either way, if God really doesn't exist, at that point nobody would even know. You would be "foregoing" on any specific kind of set of morals or whatever you have in place where you just want pure logic and nothing else since nobody would know you ever had that chance, so you can just put it out of your head if you real feel the need for it and just continue seeking things out your way if that didn't seem to work for you.

But it really does feel more like a matter of "pride" or something where you don't want to forego on that specific kind of thought pattern or morals or whatever you made up for yourself where you just want concrete physical proof that you can logic out instead of just relying on anything "spiritual". You need to force yourself out of that place at least for once and see whether trying to pray again like you used to when you were a child does yield some kind of result or not, then regardless of the result, you can just add it to your list of things then for the future to keep track of.

>>719745296
Videogames haven't seen a good release since 2014

>>719745297
no the timeline is very clear, nowhere did i say satan existed before God, satan existed before Yeshua walked the earth though of course. in the bible, satan and the fallen angels were meant to act as guides to help humanity in this creation. which means they have been here since the creation was formed, but satan and his angels rebelled and have plotted against humanity

>>719744920
>>People will act like people
read more carefully, it says
>5 having the appearance of godliness, but denying its power. Avoid such people.
its says "godly" people will act like this. not clear sinners but people that are supposed to be followers of God.
thats what I meant when talking about "minute detail".
how many supposed christians act the way that Paul describes?

>>719744815
It's a popular trope because it's mortal cope as I said. We have no option for immortality so we have to sour grapes it. I thought the dumbest part of The Good Place was them obliterating themselves instead of existing in heaven forever.

>>719745351
Why Christianity needs to be so pathethic man, the cool videogame heroes doesn't need this faggot shit.
>inb4 it's just a game dude
And yet, it's possible to triumph without dogmas.

>>719745361
Then leave /v/

>>719745439
Ask how I know you are a jew

>>719745439
How is anything he said there considered "pathetic"? By what standards?

>>719745110
bitch, europa was fucked by zeus in a bull form. every european with knowlege of greek mythology knows that.

>>719745428
>mortal cope
It’s the conclusion of a finite creature with a finite life in a finite world. And in that world meaning is created. It doesn’t flow from anywhere else. To be eternal is to remove yourself from time, to remove yourself from change, to remove yourself from life, and to remove yourself from meaning. It’s antithetical to life.

>>719745485
What movie?

>>719735613
There is a bittersweetness about seeing the kids at mass knowing that at least one of them is going to end up like (you)

>>719745610
The Lighthouss

>>719745649
>I'm heckin grooooooming kiddos!
>wtf why do people hate my baby torture pedo cult???

>>719745247
>How can heaven be better than what it already is?
wdym? existence on earth sucks for most people on earth.
>How will your life on earth have any meaning
it has zero and I am glad it is that way. compared with eternity my short stint on this cursed world will shrink to nothingness. thank God.
>innumerate amount of ages have passed in heaven for you since?
heaven will come to earth, it didnt even start yet.
>Can you change your mind in heaven?
no, you accumulate riches in heaven (the future existence on earth) now through doing the will of God in your life.
>but talking to you isn’t disabusing me of that notion.
I think you lack perspective to make such a statement.
>To be in heaven is to be united with the glory of God, forever, to look into his face and be united with his love.
and thats a bad thing how? you dont want to live with God and all his people forever in a world wide harmony without death and disease living as God intended for Adam and Eve in paradise?
why chose this earth ruled by corruption, bad leader and demonic spirits that want nothing but the worst for you?
I mean, how are you able to put up with that?

>>719745398
>in the bible, satan and the fallen angels were meant to act as guides to help humanity in this creation
I need you to quote from the Bible and not from Milton.

>>719745797
where in scripture does it support or promote baby torture or pedophilia? you realize those are jewish customs and the overwhelming majority of child abuse is SRA (satanic ritual abuse), right? you realize satan hates humanity and the fallen angels and their descendants are jealous of humanity and how we have the spark of God within us, and so they kill us in endless made up wars, abortion, ritual abuse, etc?

>>719745297
youre just a rebellious child. idk what youre talking about.

>>719745797
So are you a scared atheist or a jew?

>>719745982
>>719746038
why does the church promote circumcision?
why does the church indoctrinate young children?
why does the church cover up pedo priests?

>>719746128
By the desperation in this post: clearly a jew.

>>719746182
you think a jew would want circumcisers in prison?

>>719745943
i mean the fallen angels rebelling against creation is literally straight from the book of Enoch, which the (evil) vatican church tried to have all copies of destroyed. its supported by genesis 6:4 which talks about the angels rebelling and having sex with human women and creating a race of giants. giants walked around earth and the modern jew has invented dinosaurs recently to cover up all the giant bones that prove it

>genesis 6:2 talks about angels having sex with human wives
>That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.

>genesis 6:4 talks about how they created a race of giants called the nephilim
>There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.

>>719746128
>why does the church promote circumcision?
why are you just making shit up?

>>719746128
Circumcision is Old Testament stuff. Jesus freed everyone from the old law.

It's not indoctrination. It's protection from the enemy's world.

Those are Catholics.

>>719746238
why can't you admit you're part of a child grooming cult?
is it because you were also groomed by them as a child?

>>719746128
because the church is evil? the vatican church has been taken over by jesuit (jew-suit) priests over 500 years ago. why did the vatican church try to burn all copies of the bible during the reformation 500 years ago?

im with you that the church is evil, the answer is simple: they are run by jews.

now where in scripture does it say we should "indoctrinate young children" or "protect pedo priests" or anything like that? your issue is not with scripture, its with the people who claim to be experts at it. i totally 100% agree with you that the vatican church is bad, that has nothing to do with our amazing Creator or the supernatural collection of writings we call the bible

>>719746294
Why are jews like obessed with claiming the church is a grooming cult? Usually people that claim that are pedophiles.
Care to explain why you are so obsessed with grooming children?

>>719746218
it was more about satan wanting to corrupt the seed of mankind to prevent the birth of the Messiah more than anything.
he specifically wanted to prevent Genesis 3
I will put enmity between you and the woman,
and between your offspring[e] and her offspring;
he shall bruise your head,
and you shall bruise his heel.”

>>719745064
What, won't be able to post your daily bait & culture war bullshit?

>>719746294
again, what you say is just not supported in reality. the overwhelming majority of RITUAL ABUSED CHILDREN are from satanic sex cults. here's a harrowing video you should watch so you can update who you should focus your hatred towards:
https://rumble.com/v30wuya-the-blood-cult-27-victims-27-witnesses-from-lois-sasek.html

>>719746294
I chose to be christian myself. my parents never forced me. I wasnt a true christian until my 20s.

>>719745923
>wdym? existence on earth sucks for most people on earth.
You’re not understanding me - I’m saying that Heaven, being in God’s light, is the very peak of existence/reality/perception. If it’s going to get better, that would imply that it COULD be better, that God’s love could be improved upon.
>it has zero and I am glad it is that way. compared with eternity my short stint on this cursed world will shrink to nothingness. thank God.
According to God, this is complete nonsense. Your life on earth decides your soul’s fate in Christianity, it’s what matters the most.
>heaven will come to earth, it didnt even start yet.
Not what I’m saying. I’m saying that your earthly life is somehow meaningless compared to what you will experience in heaven, but also the only thing that matters because it decides if you’ll be in heaven or not.
>no, you accumulate riches in heaven (the future existence on earth) now through doing the will of God in your life.
If you cannot change your mind, then you cannot perceive time, you cannot perceive being alive. Your mind changes every second of your life. Being in heaven strips you of that, strips you of life, of meaning. Riches are meaningless on the sands of eternity.
>I think you lack perspective to make such a statement.
I would tell you the same.
>and thats a bad thing how? you dont want to live with God and all his people forever in a world wide harmony without death and disease living as God intended for Adam and Eve in paradise?
That’s not being alive. You do not have choice, or even the thought of choice. You are simply a vessel made for witnessing glory. That is not meaningful.
>why chose this earth ruled by corruption, bad leader and demonic spirits that want nothing but the worst for you? I mean, how are you able to put up with that?
I didn’t choose this. This is all there is. It’s up to us to improve it, not wait for God to wash it all away.

>>719746396
He doesn't care. He just wants anything he can convince people that the church did even when they are innocent because it isn't about the children at all.

>>719746378
what you are referencing is basically what i refer to as the "seed war", which has been ongoing for thousands of years. the descendants of the giants (nephilim) are what you would call the modern day jewish elite (rockefeller, rothschild, etc). they are NOT human but are demons who hate humanity. that is why there is so much war, poverty, violence, abortion etc happening. we were promised war between the seed of the serpent (satan) and the seed of the woman (mankind)

i always get banned for posting this so i hope you save it and check it out because it is the true history of the world you live on and the society around you

>>719746218
The Book of Enoch is so fucking kino. Best book of the bible along with Solomon Testament and the Book of Revelations.

>>719727650 (OP)
Faith is quite possibly one of, if not the, best Christian games ever made. Bonus points for the dev being Christian and a former(?) missionary as well
>>719734014
The truth is that modern society has failed young people so horribly that Gen Z and Gen A are willing to do something every generation before them has discarded: go to church and pray to God. There's a huge upward spike in young people finding religion that contrasts every trend in religious attendance since the Boomers.

>>719746321
your church does the exact same thing
it's hilarious how easy it is for people like you to see the abuses in every other religion, but as soon as it comes to your own it's gone
>>719746368
religion is literally a grooming cult where you indoctrinate children with lies and tell them they'll be tortured for eternity if they refuse to participate
your priests also rape children and you turn a blind eye
I will happily call out jews for doing the same thing, but I don't see any jews here, only shabbos goys (christians)

>>719746508
i totally agree, so much mindblowing information in the book of Enoch, i mean the dude is literally interviewing angels and getting an understanding of what it's really like up there. so cool man

>>719746562
i am the church, i dont believe in any institution, the church is the people who have had their hearts transformed by the life and death of Yeshua and His teachings. i dont put my faith in men or other men to tell me about scripture, i dont put my faith in a building or group of people dressed up telling me they're more holy

>>719746218
The Book of Enoch is so fucking kino. Best book of the bible along with Solomon Testament and the Book of Revelations.
(>>719746583 My apologies, didn't notice that i uploaded some AI mush by mistake. Here's a Dore's painting to make up for it)

>>719746396
>b-but the majority
your organization protects and hides pedophiles while the congregation turns a blind eye
I'm not watching your 50 minute video on why jimm saville is a satanist or whatever.

>>719746664
who is "your organization"? the vatican church? yes, i bet i can go on a lot longer about how evil they are and how they should not be trusted. but are you able to see there is a difference between the institution of the church and the teachings in scripture? you have a hatred of the church and its blinding you to everything else

>>719746559
>Faith is quite possibly one of, if not the, best Christian games ever made.
Thanks for putting me on. Looks terrible but I'll give it a whirl when I get $15.

>>719746562
Yeah yeah it's always like this with weak people like you. Because you can't groom children yourself you project claiming religion is doing that.
You shout and claim they did (something) and hope someone will believe your lies. And that's why here you are, desperately shouting in an anonymous board achieving nothing.

>>719746765
> if you accuse me of grooming kids it means you're just jealous! you wish you were grooming kids like me!

>>719746640
>>719746723
then you have no basis for your religious beliefs. Everything you know about christianity was created by men, mostly men of the church telling you about scripture. The bible is entirely the work of men telling you what to believe, and has been edited by the church for thousands of years to modify its claims. You are not part of the church only insofar as you are not currently sitting in a church.

>>719746449
the fuck dont you get that God is infinite? God is perfection over perfection over perfection infinitely. you will never get tired of it and it will never stop.
>Your life on earth decides your soul’s fate in Christianity
nope, its God revealing himself to you and your response to it. only then your life even starts in the first place.
>but also the only thing that matters because it decides if you’ll be in heaven or not.
God has chosen that before you even existed. you simply are a partaker in his glory.
>Being in heaven strips you of that, strips you of life, of meaning. Riches are meaningless on the sands of eternity.
how the fuck would you even know. again we are back at the point about a good videogame and forgetting time entirely.
always funny when an atheist wants to explain the glory of heaven away, like wtf dude. did you ever spent time with a girl and the time just an away?
>I would tell you the same.
you know nothing but this drag of a corrupt and dying world. you dont know shit and put it as the best shit ever. you glorify goyslop, nothing else.
>You do not have choice, or even the thought of choice.
God gave us a choice from the beginning, he wont take it away then either.
> It’s up to us to improve it, not wait for God to wash it all away.
there we have it, the same rebellion humanity suffered under. we can do this, we are just like God, we can create heaven on earth.
nigger, the air is full of poison, food is unhealthy, water full of plastics.
its time to admits humans fucked up and cant even manage to keep this planet alive or even themselves. humans suck at running things and we only make shit worse. face that reality.

>>719745415
>how many supposed christians act the way that Paul describes?
As many now as a hundred years ago, as a thousand years ago. Hypocrisy is not exclusive to the end times.

>>719746810
And now you bring jealousy even though nobody had mentioned that.
This speaks volumes: the reason you are so spiteful is because nobody cares about your opinion and you are jealous the people are listening to the church. So you are desperate to paint them in any bad light to make that stop, which you can't.
Ah that explains a lot.

>>719746583
I think the reason why all the Abrahamistic religion chronicles are so unappealing for the usual mind it's because they lack imagination. Most of the holy bible it's just historical accounts, ancient civ laws, poetry hyms, and Hebrew/Christian philosophy. And on top of that, the great mythological parts that lay out the divine beings were deliberately left out. It sucks.

>>719746905
"men of the church telling you about scripture", you are just projecting, the bible is a supernatural faith constructed of 66 books from over 40 authors, and this is before the idea of what we now call "churches" were really prevalent. its more like diary entries of people who lived at the time and wrote down what they saw and experienced

>>719746905
NTA but you're not getting it. The church is not a building. It's people.

>>719746497
its the whole reason that God commanded the israelites to go to canaan and slay the giant clans. and not mix with the people there. guess who didnt listen...

>>719746984
its a historical narrative about what happened on earth, i dont think its boring at all and the teachings in there are amazing and profound

>>719746962
actually you mean envy, not jealousy. Christians don't even know their sins
you literally said
>Because you can't groom children yourself you project claiming religion is doing that
pathetic

>>719747004
that's neither here nor there
when I say "the church" does this or that, I'm obviously not saying that a big building with a steeple is grooming children. The people of the organization do that

>>719747007
exactly, the israelites (human beings) failed to destroy the seed of the serpent and thus we were promised war with it for ALL generations (including ours)

>>719745297
Youre arguing with a jew. They predate christians but satan does not predate God. They have very poor logic.

>>719746218
>giants walked around earth and the modern jew has invented dinosaurs recently to cover up all the giant bones that prove it
They invented dinosaurs to cover up the fact that every fossils found looks absolutely nothing like a giant human?

>>719727650 (OP)
Infernax

>>719747025
>pathetic
Yes I know. Through decades liars without a voice have been screaming that the church grooms people. Why do you do that when you are repeatedly disproven?

>>719746946
wait till you see the one world religion and christian nationalism that is on the horizon. we have seen nothing yet about how ugly religious people can get.

>>719747126
there has never been a fully intact fossil of a dinosaur ever found actually, and the first "dinosaur" wasnt invented til 200 years ago, and despite having ZERO fully intact fossils of ANY species of ANY dinosaur we somehow know about hundreds now, and we know what they ate, and we know what killed them hundreds of millions ago. allegedly. i dont believe any of it because its speculation from jews on earth.

and yes they have 100% found giant femurs, spinal cords, skulls etc which the smithsonian has confiscated

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYs7vh2WYAQ

>>719747107
Ok but grooming them for what though? To also be Christians? To help them on their path to their second birth? If you say anything about rape, you're delusional.

>>719727650 (OP)
Nova Aetas
>be an animist giving thanks to sky father Tengri for living another day on this war forsaken land of Calradia
>your bible thumbing lord is constantly seething that you won't make the jump over to light that is Catholicism
>use the accumulated wealth gained from your many campaigns to rebuild the temple of Minerva before leaving for the New World to dab on some Aztec fucking shits

>>719746497
>modern day jewish elite (rockefeller
The Rockefellers are as WASPy and goyish as they come

>>719747126
most likely dinosaurs as in big reptiles actually existed but not as they want to make us believe.
we have elephants, blue whales and crocodiles to this day. most likely some form of bigger reptiles existed along side humans just as animals do now. they were just wiped out with the flood like all the rest.

/thread

>>719747004
I can appreciate faith as a concept, because human existence needs to be proactive, and being overly bound to the material world is bound to make humanity reactive and destined to mediocrity.
But if I were to commit to faith at a personal level, I would probably pick some form of esoteric natural law wankery. Binding your philosophy to a "group" whether you consider the group to be emergent or not just seems like another form of materialism to me. It is one thing to decide to believe in something on faith, it is another entirely to believe in a packaged up collection of ideas. There is a bit of an out here in that so many people like to play mister potato head with their christianity, but I suspect the ability to do that to the religion is itself an evolved trait - that is - you get to play mister potato head to the degree which it has been found acceptable to the DNA of the religion.

>>719747018
It sucks moshee, the Bhagavad Gita alone it's more deeply divinely inspired and resonates better with the heroic spirit of the individual and the longing for personal transformation than some psychotic Jews being retarded across the desert and their messiah telling you to trow your belongings to the pit for whatever reason

Reminder that Gen Z and Gen A will all convert to Christianity and there's nothing that any jaded, godless nihilist or neo-pagan larper can do about it

>>719746915
>the fuck dont you get that God is infinite? God is perfection over perfection over perfection infinitely. you will never get tired of it and it will never stop.
You’re just agreeing with me angrily. God is already perfection, there is no “improving” in heaven, once you get there, it’s the same, forever. And I’m not arguing that it’s boring anything so banal, I’m saying that since heaven does not allow the soul to change, to think differently, to change its mind, it becomes completely antithetical to life: death dressed in fine linen.
>nope, its God revealing himself to you and your response to it. only then your life even starts in the first place.
Life is defined by change and the passage of time. To be alive is to be able to change. Heaven is the opposite of that.
>God has chosen that before you even existed. you simply are a partaker in his glory.
Calvinism aside, that removes even more meaning from eternity.
>how the fuck would you even know.
Because I can use my own reasoning to come to the conclusion. You know, the very thing that God supposedly imbued us with when we were created in his image. It sure wasn’t our physical bodies.
>again we are back at the point about a good videogame and forgetting time entirely. always funny when an atheist wants to explain the glory of heaven away, like wtf dude. did you ever spent time with a girl and the time just an away?
I have. I’ve spent a lot of time with a woman I love, and I want to spend far more time with her in the future. But I know that our time together is only meaningful because it’s not infinite.
>you know nothing but this drag of a corrupt and dying world. you dont know shit and put it as the best shit ever. you glorify goyslop, nothing else.
What have I glorified? I haven’t glorified anything. All I’ve said is that meaning can only emanate from finitude, from here. You have yet to come up with a counter argument for this, all you’ve done is make things up about me.

>>719747569
Seems more like christianity will convert to the new generation.

>>719747664
just imagine the world but good, how hard can it be.

>>719747529
yeah too bad the bible has zero contradictions and even the buddhists teach that Christ was likely an incarnation of buddha, funny how even islam teaches Christ was a great prophet, funny how every religion seems to mention Christ in some way, and then you read scripture for yourself and find out how its the actual truth

>>719747569
At least they will join a community that is localized. Rather than sending their money over to a bunch of talking heads that already get paid to spew bullshit over the internet. Nothing wrong with supporting your local economies.

>>719747664
Sorry, ran out of space, I don’t want to leave your last argument hanging before the thread dies: >>719746915
>there we have it, the same rebellion humanity suffered under. we can do this, we are just like God, we can create heaven on earth. nigger, the air is full of poison, food is unhealthy, water full of plastics.
What a horrible abdication of responsibility and care for reality. You only see death and misery and hatred, you yourself partake in it, just by using that slur. You don’t believe in a better world being possible, the only thing you believe in is that eventually your Heavenly Father is going to come pick you up from school after a long day.

>>719747780
Don't care

>This shit reaches bump limit
OP is a faggot & coward.

>>719747218
What;s wrong with Christian nationalism?

>>719747985
>You don’t believe in a better world being possible
thats what Revelation is about. God creating a new heaven and a new EARTH.

>>719747228
They’ve found hundreds of fossils that are 99% complete and are able to find other fossils from the same species to fill in the gaps. And of course they didn’t find them until recently because until recently we didn’t understand where to look, and when fossils were found previously, they were seen as dragon bones or nephelim bones like your schizo rant maintains.

>>719748072
not scriptural and will be abused by corrupt officials.

>>719748182
cool unsubstantiated claims bro yeah they found 99% fossils lol that last 1% was just missing uh oh

>>719748072
but in the guise of doing the "will of God". I forgot to add.

The best thing the Japanese samurai and shoguns ever did was slaughter every Christian missionary and convert.

>>719748108
And then what? The new earth is created and everyone lives happily ever after and there’s nothing that ever happens after that, because even the greatest and most powerful religion in the world still understands that all stories have endings.

>>719748258
The T Rex fossil “Sue” was found 90% complete. They’ve found around 30 other fossilized T-Rexes with less complete preservations. Enough to fill in the gaps.

>>719748070
I laughed like a retard reading this one. Bumping for this thread to end, have my (You)

>>719748197
>>719748283
So basically neocons?

>>719748409
>The new earth is created and everyone lives happily ever after
oh no, the agony of everything being fine. no murder, no child rape, no paying taxes to pedophiles. the absolute horror.
dude, what a fucked up mind do you have. almsot seems like you enjoy this cursed earth, but I cant help you with that.

>>719748072
>A bunch of savage niggers from the congo are equal to your kin o algo

>>719748409
Before the thread dies I do want to thank you for being the only person to actually engage with my argument in good faith even if your arguments weren’t great. My statement still stands though: meaning can only be derived from finitude, and eternity is inherently meaningless.

>>719748509
dinosaurs never existed man its time to wake up to reality. carbon dating is complete pseudoscience and has never worked since they started it in the 50s, they literally outright say it doesn't work since they dropped "nukes" which scattered radiation which messes with carbondating (nukes are another hoax), its literally one big layered set of hoaxes. your source for literally everything, whether you know it or not, is the US government. the smithsonian who has your "90% T-Rex fossils" made it up and they are provably liars, the government who bought all the big bones in the 1800s and 1900s are provably liars. you're living in a fanfiction instead of reality

>>719748545
yes, but turn it up by 10 and absolute monarchical power in the name of God.
criticise israel now? wait till the mob turns on your for criticizing the pope...

>>719748557
>of everything being fine
Of everything never changing again.

>>719748337
This was pure autism from the Japanese at the time. But unlike Jews, crypto Jews and their useful puppets, they couldn't subvert themselves. No wonder why didn't last long over there.

>>719748610
Fuck you, fuck this thread and fuck those that feel welcomed to fill this board with off topic nonsense.

>>719748673
everything will change always since you cant fit the absolute infinite glory of God into a box and say thats it.

Once again /v/ surprises me with how high quality off-topic threads are. Good job guys, see ya after I finish Silksong.

>>719748639
My man, your entire worldview has been constructed from pieces of ramblings and contradicting philosophies, and completely collapses under the slightest scrutiny. Dinosaurs are real, as are nuclear weapons. Nuclear fission is very clearly possible and it is why life exists on this earth today. You don’t understand the depths to which you’ve deceived yourself. I’m not sure you ever will.

>>719748337
How was any of that a good thing?

>>719748678
>"Only by preserving Japanese irrationality will we be able contribute to world culture 100 years from now."

-Yukio Mishima

>>719748646
Isn't Christian nationalism more of a Protestant thing?

>>719748780
>everything will change
Incorrect, God is eternal and unchanging. You do not understand your own faith.

>>719738293
I read the article linked, i must say. It is quite clear to me that Joshua was a Christian and not a mormon. He clearly understands Christ to be fully God, uncreated and not a creation of God the Father. In contrast with the mormon belief wich is politeistic. God, Christ and the Holly Spirit are distinct entities or gods in the mormon doctrine.

>>719748870
They managed to have 200 years of peace free from Jewish antics.

>>719748846
LOL
dinosaurs are provably fake and so are nukes man its time to wake up just look at literally all the footage of nuclear tests for yourself
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYs7vh2WYAQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYr6uGTsL7A

nuclear fission has NEVER been demonstrated ever and it doesn't even make sense because it doesn't produce gas which is required for explosions. they lied to you and you believe it for no reason. start living in reality with things you can prove

>>719748784
Dinosaur fossils being discovered helped people understand that the narrative they have been fed by church traditions for thousands of years is in many ways bullshit and meant to keep them docile and controlled.

>>719749003
>meant to keep them docile and controlled
Then how come they had so many wars?

>>719748961
that had absolutely nothing to do with the banning of Christianity nor do Jews have anything to do with it. you are retarded.

>>719748993
>nuclear fission has NEVER been demonstrated ever and it doesn't even make sense because it doesn't produce gas which is required for explosions
>gas is required for explosions
This is just incontrovertibly false.
The nukes are fake crowd is hilariously misinformed.

>>719748824
High Quality Shit.