Thread 719935112

what the hell does this mean?

I'm stuck in Grandgate

>it just keeps going
Shit man I didn't realize I signed up for Trial of the Fool by walking into a goddamn room.

>>719935112 (OP)
it means
on the twelth harvest send 40 music dregthread, 2 music fine thread and a lawyer. thank you very much

>>719935195
i'm literally seething at this exact fight right now too kek
seriously what in the australian hell were they thinking?

>>719935193
The platforms are levers. They move when you stand on or smack them.

STOP FUCKING RIPOSTING ME YOU BRAT
I DON'T WANT TO FENCE WITH YOU

Somone last thread told me I'd get double jump if I did this game's Path of Pain. I assume they meant buzzsaw hell so I did that and all I got was a stupid melody. If that wasn't PoP where the hell is it?

The one time she should actually go nude

What is it with Major Outlets and outright lying about the lenght of the game? I saw a video that said "All bosses" and it was 20 minutes long, had like 7 bosses, and people were complainining that it was shit
The channel has like 4 million subs

>>719935112 (OP)
Delicate flower quest
NOW WITH TIMER

I don't know where to go after Clockwork Dancers.
Feels like I should have the ring thing or a double jump to get to my next destinations but I guess I missed them.

What is up with Blasted Steps? Huh? Hollow Knight didn't have anything near this level of difficult platforming in the early game.

>>719935112 (OP)
I'm going to fug the bug

I hate beastfly so fucking much like you wouldn't believe, worst part is my pride you not let me leave until I defeat it

Just found the foreign savage merchant. Should I buy curveclaw or save up for fractured mask?

>>719935359
Cashing in early because no one knows for sure how to get the true ending or fight all the bosses because the game is BIG
Its fucking huge and rushing to the normal ending is like, 10% of the fucking game

>>719933131
Greymoor-Sinners Road (Straight up from halfway house)
Sinners Road to the Mist (hidden wall in the room above the bench room in sinners road, very top left)
Mist-Exhaust Organ, boss is in there

Mist is fucking annoying by the way
>Semi randomized areas
>Have to play music to the butterflys to follow them to the right exit
>Repeat this a bunch of times and it eventually leads you out

>>719935374
I want to strangle the devs. Why did they think locking a damage upgrade behind this was a good idea? I'd rather just murder the gourmet and take the damn oil.

>>719935112 (OP)
Is this a potential skip? Does this guy capture you when you die or with an attack? Found him backtrack exploring after getting wall jump. Located between Deep Docks and Hunter's March

>>719935359
>>719935475
Yeah it seems like no one actually found the true boss yet?

>>719935439
Check your map
Did you forget about the area below the citadel? The dark one with all the claustrophobic hallways?
Theres more to that area

How in the fuck does the gambling work?

>high halls mob arena fight
what the actual fucking shit is this, dude?
i beat like 12 waves (jesus fucking christ why is it so long) and then the game spawned TWO of the miniboss at once that already killed me like three times when it was just one by himself, and that was that.
i genuinely do not understand how this is supposed to be done, completely at a loss here.

>>719935381
hostile architecture has gone too far

>>719935541
I don't know, but it only takes like 3 minutes to make him go broke.

>>719935475
>rushing to the normal ending is like, 10% of the fucking game
lmao good to know, I'm going to keep taking my time

>my tactic for most enemies is 1 hit and run
How can I improve my combat?

>>719935507
If he captures you then you get to go to prison and early ice mountain

>>719935565
>>719935381
I keep tied up rosaries on me the entire time this game because of that.

Gotcha bitch

>>719935112 (OP)
what a liege lord would expect of his vassal serfs every harvest

Anyone know how to get to the far top right area in Putrified Ducts? My bug is stuck

>>719935112 (OP)
duh

Finally beat Beastfly after like 40 minutes. The pogo on the Beast Crest seems way too dangerous to ever use.

>>719935535
The Underworks? I'll admit I left as soon as I could escape but the map looks complete to me aside from a fire area to the right that doesn't seem to have an open gate.
Any tips where in the area I'm looking?

how's the game so far

>get all the way to the door
>ok actually you forgot to ring one bell so now go back
You're kidding me right

>Evolved the base crest to gain a focus bar that fills with successive attacks to gain a damage buff
I'm gonna be so serious team cherry this could heal +dmg +speed +stun +rosarie beads on hit and is i still wouldn't use it because of that divekick

Hornet is getting RAPED by roaches right now

>>719935643
What zone?! Just tell me that at least.

Finally beat the judge. Once everything clicks, you realize it’s actually a really easy boss. Is there a comfy friendly village in the citadel?

>>719935809
Hah

>>719935112 (OP)
looks like a letter for logistics

>>719935761
I didn’t even remember ringing any bells but when I got to the door it said I rung them all.

>>719935761
Theres a backup way in, go do >>719935481 for the backdoor

>>719935785
I don't understand the hateboner for the divekick
It's not even bad, just different

>>719935802
Mount fay, and prepare for path of pain 2.0

I can't fucking do it.
I can't fucking kill Groal in Bilewater. I don't know how to fight him. The arena is so small. The contact damage rapes me, and the angle on his spit kills me. I don't fucking get it. I can't keep doing this I can't do this fucking run back where I have to do a whole routine of cleansing myself before I get to the trap room.
It's fucking ridiculous. This whole zone is fucking terrible. This boss fight is terrible. The trap room fight is terrible and needing to do it every time to fight the boss is fucking stupid. This whole zone can go to hell.
HOW DO I KILL GROAL WHATS THE FUCKING STRAT

>>719935606
damn i shouldn’t have killed him

>>719935830
Yeah judging by the cobwebs on the actual citadel entrance nobody has been there for fucking years. So it’s literally ALL zombie bugs?

>>719935869
Not that anon but it needs better hit detection and it needs to go further.

>>719935357
>Frequent uncaring exhibitionist
>Every occasion that actually makes sense to go nude has her fully clothed
I like to think the seamstress was expecting her to wear something underneath that cloak and was shocked to see Hornet casually stripping.

Beat Trobbio finally

The game only gets harder and harder

>>719935595
I've lost over 40 rosaries to this fucker so far.

My left thumb hurts so fucking much man

>need to pay 30 breads every time I want to enter
Old faggot

Is it possible to open pic related? Thought playing in front of it would do the trick, but nothing happens

>>719935709
Then why do they fit so well in there hmm?

>>719935849
I just hit them to see if anything happened.
>>719935856
That looks like a roundabout way to go back in.

>>719935606
>Go to jail
>Wind up nude
do you think they ran a train on Hornet?

>>719935959
I tried that too.

OK I'm now being filteredededed

>>719935951
It's not that bad, you just don't go back until you can buy everything you want.

Lol I remember in the first day of release I was getting worried about how it seemed I discovered more than half of the map. At least that’s what I thought. Now I’m overwhelmed and actually making plans like I did for the first hollow knight. Tc still got it.

How would you guys react if Team Cherry patched out most of the 2 mask damage attacks and added a bench closer to the boss fights? But it’s the easy mode, and the normal mode is as it was at launch

The fact that no one knows how many weavenests exist is very telling considering theyre marked on the map

What's some of your favourite music so far? I'm only just about to enter sinners road, but bellhart is very comfy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyFIQ3crD6o

>>719935951
look above the door, my man

>>719935606
>early ice mountain
Did I miss something? It didn't look like there was any way for me to get further up.

Is it me, or is the game WAY stingier with its money than Hollow Knight ever was?

I'm sure normies aren't finishing this game without ""mods"".

trying to fight a single common enemy feels like im fighting for my fucking life. give me a godamn break.

>>719935951
i missed sherma at this place, also, does anyone how to get to the thing slamming the wall to the right?

>>719936045
I would be INCREDIBLY SMUG

Are there any secrets you can get with corpse jumping?

>>719936056
Nah you need the grappling hook

>>719935959
that's a dlc entrance

>>719935849
Actually now that I'm back in Bellhart, I don't even know what it wants me to ring.

Guys I fucking hate the second lace fight
I feel like I'm playing no items, fox only, final destination, but it's bug fencing

>>719935959
Opens after witch's crest quest.

>>719936012
This guy is stupid. Just don't look in his direction and wait for him to come closer then smack. Technically you can run past him as long as you don't get hit.

>>719936045
I can settle with contact dmg being reduced to 1 or invulnerability bell charm allowing you to heal even when hit desu

>>719936152
The benches you activated in the act 1 areas that had fuck huge bells over them.

In the coming weeks Silksong will get easier through patches.

Savor the feeling of mogging everyone else /v/.

what the fuck is this thing

I really hope Team Cherry learned their lesson and added a godhome equivalent at launch
Some of these bosses would be criminal to spend dozens of hours just to fight again

>>719936227
Witch charm quest

>>719936227
Dunno but it looks like the thing that gives you the poison trinket that Hornet says is "not a bug"

This guy's meant to be a kid, no way he survives until the end

I only saw sherma like twice. The first time you meet him and then somewhere else along the way before greymoor I think. Uh, am I supposed to have seen him again by now since I’m at the last judge

>FLEA BREW

BROOOOOS I'M FUCKING CUMMMMMING
BEST SHIT IN THE ENTIRE GAME

should i free the guy in sinners road or unlock the area by blacksmith?

>>719936235
I hope there is a new game+

>>719935439
>>719935748
Please send help.

>>719936219
I doubt it. I wouldn't be surprised if they just disappear and never do any DLC or make another game.

>>719936235
I dont think there is one sadly

>>719936286
I freed him, dont get anything immediately and I havent seen him again yet
But Im paranoid Ill miss something if I go forward and he dies or something retarded

>>719936203
Ah, so it's those ones. I thought it was the three bell ones.

>>719936319
>>719935748
I'd suggest the whispering vaults in the bottom right citadel area. You'll be able to get to the rest of the underworks from there.

This stupid ass place is White Palace 2.0

it's honestly not worth killing anything in this fuckass game since it takes forever to kill a single common shit enemy.

>>719936418
Have you tried throwing things more often?

>>719936458
but then how am i gonna heal????

so any of you completed the map yet

Did some people actually have trouble with Lace's first encounter? I beat the shit out of her first try

>>719936490
long range tools keep you safe, no need to heal

>>719936276
Was I supposed to encounter sherma anywhere? I haven't seen him since his first appearance, and I'm in blasted steps.

>>719936393
Not really, you can buy a wall grip off the old lady merchant.

>>719936490
do kunais take up silk?

>>719936380
Thought I had checked everything along the bottom right and it was just closed doors and one that needed a key but I'll check. Thanks.

>>719936508
That fight was the most fun I had with the game so far.

>>719935112 (OP)
The diagonal pogo is perfect. They should not have added alternative crests at all.

>>719936045
I really hope at least they take out the 2 masks damage from hazards. Seems absurd

Whats the best crest I'm just using the reaper one atm

>>719936584
i've been using the sikspear so much, i completely forgot about the pins. lol.

>blasted steps
>apparently already locked myself out of some obviously not mandatory but still entertaining stuff
fug

>>719936554
I saw him at the gate, at the house you have to pay to enter and at the Bell place and then I just saw him there swimming, there's probably a particular order to do things and I'm sure I missed some encounters

>>719936649
huh? what stuff?

Bros where is Shakra in act 2 I can't fucking find her and I can't summon her in the town

>>719936639
We don't know because shaman hasnt been found but Wanderer scales really well with nail upgrades and is a pretty simple general use nail

>DUDE JUST FILL THE ROOM WITH FLYING ENEMIES THAT SPAM PROJECTILES AND PARRY MOVES AND RUN THE FUCK AWAY FROM YOU LMAO
>AND EVERY OTHER WAVE HAS THAT FAGGOT GHOST THAT DRAINS ALL YOUR SOUL AND YOU CAN'T GET TO HIM BECAUSE THERE'S A MILLION FLYING NIGGERS IN THE WAY SPAMMING PROJECTILES
>AND AFTER THAT FUCKING ENDURANCE GAUNTLENT OF RETARDATION LET'S THEN THROW TWO MINIBOSS NIGGERS THAT CLEARLY WERE NOT DESIGNED TO BE FOUGHT TOGETHER IN THE ROOM AT THE SAME TIME LIKE IT'S FUCKING GODSKIN DUO
this is easily the least fun room in the entire game
fucking niggers

That took about 10 tries. Had to save the spear for the ads and then I won. Boomerang wasn’t that good.

>>719936274
I eagerly await the graphic depictions of what just occurred there.

What's the reward for the target practice challenge? Thinking whether to save up for actual purchases or to try my luck there.

>>719936714
prison sequence and whatevers going on with sherma i think. Who knows what else. Doesn’t have anything to do with actually being in blasted steps maybe, but I am too far along to start all over again

>>719936746
Thank you, your shizo rant made me realize something, before this there is a secret room full of the silk draining guys, you do something there and they don't appear in the fight anymore

I went back and watched the original trailer, is that skill where Hornet throws her needle and then zips over to it mid air still in?

>>719935112 (OP)
Is it normal to be in Act 2 with base health and only one needle ability? I have three mask shards. I don't have many charms either though.
I've spent hours exploring. I thought I was taking my time and being thorough, but I feel really weak and underequipped.

>>719936894
Yeah.

Should I insert 70 beads for the machine displaying a model of the citadel in the choral area? I missed the first one that was 40 beads in the citadel because I couldn’t afford it

>>719936380
My bad, I didn't explore the clock enough like a fucking idiot.

>>719936901
Hornet plays like a glass cannon with no cannon and I've been playing for a very long time. The enemeis in this game are just retarded damage sponges

i am missing a purple flower :v

>>719936872
you can still encounter sherma later, same with the prison dudes that can trap you

I got the face shard in deep docks by kiting a little flying bug and used it to pogo onto the upper ledges. Fucking awesome. I'm guessing you get a double jump and wall jump later in the game?

>>719936853
The first one is just a crafting bag for more resources, he says he'll give you rosaries for the 2nd one but I don't trust him

>>719936990
It's a map

>>719937021
You have multiple different cannons. I'd suggest using them more often.

>>719936393
this is baby mode, I did it with the diagonal pogo

*BAM*

hey

>>719937021
The cannons are the spells you learn
All of which deal significantly more damage than your nail until your nail is maxed out

>>719937049
Yeah not an argument, you're still just spitting at enemies.

>>719937047
Thank you. Map girl doesn’t come to the citadel?

>Sister Splinter 1 try
>Widow 2 tries
>2x Moss Mom just took me 4
Is this normal??

>>719936880
WHEREEE ANONNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN

>>719937021
Yeah, I've been getting that impression too. She's just glass.
I was really, really hoping for a Bash-like ability with her needle. I thought I remember seeing one in the trailers, but I doubt it works exactly like Bash. Why no other game has copied that ability is beyond me. It's an incredible movement and offensive option.

>>719937029
I killed the prison guy thoughever.

>>719936853
First reward is a tool pouch upgrade (carry more shard/tools), the second harder challenge that gives a 220 bead rosary on completion. The guy implies he's going to come up with a third but if he does I haven't unlocked it yet. Also, rest at the bench before trying and then alt F4 if you lose too much

>game encourages fast gameplay but punishes you for doing so
AAAUUUGGHHH

>>719936746
it genuinely doesn't make sense how they expect you to fight two of those big hammer fags at once
if one does the overhead swing and the other does literally any other attack you are guaranteed to take 2 damage
and of course they have 200 fuckmillion hp each so you can't even burst them down with tools because this game is made by sadistic fucking niggers

Am I wrong in thinking the beast crest controls like shit compared to the original?

Holy shit the caltrops MELT bosses.
Traps are kind of absurd

>>719937021
The enhanced Hunter crest is the glass cannon build.

>most enemies and environmental hazards do 2 damage
>every single bench costs money
>if you keep losing to a boss, you will slowly have your tools taken away as they whittle down your shell shards meaning more losses leaves you worse off than before
>if you die, most bosses require to do a run back where is it very possible to die
>most bosses don't even have the decency to drop mask shards or rosaries or any other resource on death
>due to this, it is possible to go the whole of act 1 with only 6-7 masks
>also since most enemies do 2 damage, 6 masks does not clear any damage breakpoint since 3 hits will kill you regardless
>all of these decisions were deliberate and optimized over 7 years
You have to admit, it's pretty funny

Guys I don't think we'll see Iselda out here.

Fourth Chorus had some great animation

>>719937146
Does the reaper get enhanced?

>>719936901
Wait how do you only have one needle ability, the thread storm is super easy to find. There's not too many masks shards though, no, I'm just past the belltown unlock and I only have 5 (one mask a quarter) but also it barely matters everything in the damn game does two masks so the first upgrade that actually makes a difference is to 7 masks.

>>719937108
You mean Hornets second airdash?
You gotta find it

Just want to say my enjoyment of the game increased significantly once I unlocked sprint and realized I can non-stop sprint from map to map. The unique attacks and jump is really cool too. Feels like I'm a border collie or some shit.

Man, The Mist sure is confusing to navigate

>>719937119
skill issue

M-m-maybe I should come back?

>>719937161
I don't know, but I'm getting the feeling that only the Hunter crest gets enhanced because it had no special skill and the other crests already have a special skill.

>>719937136
the moment i saw the pogo on that thing and the fact it doesnt have a normal heal i noped the fuck out

>>719937152
When team cherry said they were having the time of their life making this game they were not kidding, I assure you

>>719937206
Guess I'm going back to the hunter crest once its enchaned

>>719937196
It's just a string converter.

>>719937209
Do I need it for anything? Like doors or something?

>>719935465
I have never gotten a boner from Hornet. I faiul to see what people see.

>>719937145
WE KEEP TELLING YOU TO BUY IT FROM FORGE DAUGHTER BRO

>>719937021
The cannon is her tools. There are a few bosses I've seen people complaining about which you can completely trivialize by just throwing knives at them.

>>719937106
you can push a cart here to reach a hole in the ceiling, you need double jump though, and you can figure out the rest

Is this what I need to do to progress? Some anon told me that the pin-dash upgrade was somewhere in a lava area

Is it possible to fix the broken bench in sinners road or was that just a joke at my expense?

>>719937259
Anon caltrops are from a quest in sinners road

>simple boss moveset
>phase two with and add
>phase three with two adds
Bloating the bosses health and pretending you made an interesting fight by throwing more enemies with it is so lazy

>>719937152
game was probably tested by skilled players, they didn't balance it around casuals

I hate these little niggers like you wouldn't believe.

>>719937217
You're completely right. It feels like a work of hedonism by rich people who know they never have to work another day in their lives. Not like the first game, where they actually had to prove themselves.

>>719937268
I only got obliterated by one boss so far and I actually realized I missed a tool, but no the issue is that the sheer number of common enemies that take way too many fucking hits its annoying.

>>719937290
Yea top left wall is breakable, do platforming and you fix it

>>719937268
I think the throwing knives are deceptively weak.

They LOOK weak but they do so much fucking damage.

Don't get captured guys, seeing Hornet naked isn't worth it

>exploring Blightown without a map
>manage to accidentally wander into The Mist before getting the map

>>719937253
i always thought Divine was the hottest thing ever.

>>719936639
Reaper if you're a scrub
The ability to basically refill your spool after healing is great

>play for 10 hours with default keybinds
>everything is fine
>suddenly I lose the ability to platform and play like a retard
>overwhelming urge to change keybindings
>I can immediately play perfectly with the new bindings
WTF is wrong with me?

So besides using the Flea caravan what is the intended way to get to the rainy city above?

Kinoooooo. Was so nice fighting this guy after seeing him 6 years ago.

Whats the point of longnail? Its slow and has a shitty arch. Does it to loads damage compared to others or what?

Shoutout to whatever this thing is
it has saved my ass from flying enemies SO many times, when you throw it it always lands in that blind spot that flying enemies like to camp where your nail doesn't reach, it's so good

>>719937414
it penetrates shields

>>719937354
They do as much (or more) damage than her nail, which means they're awful against most normal enemies due to low ammo for their damage. But that means they're incredible against bosses, which are designed around you only getting 1 hit every 5 seconds (as opposed to dumping 12+ hits in 5 seconds).

>get to Widow
>ok this isn't so bad
>phase 2
>I hate physics

>>719937406
Ride the wind up

>stun the boss
>hitbox changes
>die
I hate this game so much it's unreal.

>>719936720
You have to repair the third town, then take her quest and go down to the hospital and save her ass

What does the single lifeblood butterfly plant in wormways mean? Did the alchemist experiments end up creating lifeblood?

The Wanderer crest feels like cheating at times. There is no way I can go back

>>719937098
patience is key for that one

that said, if you go VERY hard at it, SUPER aggressive (like die on purpose to leave silk, charge up before hand, and dump 4 hits of big damage and CHASE CHASE CHASE) her behavior changes and she gets more aggressive and will heavily delay summoning the second boss

I already hate Mount Fay.

How long until you get the enhanced hunter crest?

>>719937423
woops lol

>>719937439
Wait until phase 3

>>719937454
mark the spot, trust me

>>719937448
>reaper
deserved.

I am getting filtered in greymoore bros
I am not gonna make it

>>719936801
gotta be a troll

*record scratch*
(bone bottom spoilers)

I can't kill Groal. Please someone help me what's the strategy for him. I've not needed more than 5 tries for any boss. I'm on 3 fucking hours for this fucking boss. Please

Anyone figure this shit out? No idea where to even start with it.

>>719937171
I went there twice before a thread told me how to navigate it. I'm unsure if there's an actual clue or they expected experimentation from the players, but you want to play the needolin for the glowing bugs and they'll lead you to the proper exits.

>>719937508
Those birds are pretty gay.

>>719937371
I still don't know where the map is and I'm pretty sure I got everything in that area lmao

Sitting on the Bellhart bench is the first time the music of this game has impressed me. For what I hope are obvious reasons.

What was that last phase haha?

>>719937534
I got this pretty quick.
You need to make a continuous pattern from top to bottom. Start by flipping the second from the top to see if it matches the top slot. If it doesn't the top is wrong. Flip it once and try again. Once you've matched the top two the rest are easy.

>that one flea that was peeping on hornet in the bath
How long did you let him look?

Where is the kidnapper that can take hornet to prison?

>>719937557
The green buys with weapons are also no easy game. I am getting raped and hard.

>all those small ants crawling around Hunter’s March
What are those? Are they smart too or just dumb bugs?

>>719937456
>only one tool slot
That's a dealbreaker.

>>719937163
>thread storm is super easy to find
Where is it?

>getting bullied by everything
damn maybe i shoulda replayed hk before sneedsong

>last judge is basic compared to the last few bosses
>keep dying because I get cocky

They did this on purpose.

Favourite tool?
Obviously the spike trap is good, but what about others? Is the throwing spear that much better damage-wise than base knives?

>>719937673
Above crows thing

>>719937714
Caltrops

>>719937601
Oh duh that's so obvious now, thanks man. Guess my brain is starting to burn out from this marathon.

>>719937168
I don't know. Maybe.
Where are her other nail abilities? I must have missed a few. I still only have the one.

>>719937687
This game is so much harder I don't know if that really matters. The movement is also pretty damn different so HK might not carry over all that much

>>719937170
It does a lot later on if you get creative.

/v/ sucks 90% of the time but damn, this place really is the only place where you can get comfy discussions and actual guidance in the first week of a game like this

Ok I feel kinda better knowing the beastfly fucked everyone up some.

https://youtu.be/H4WCRgzUlRw
I really like Choral Chambers and how it informs Hornets character as opposed to the Knight. Instead of quiet contemplation like the City of Tears, Hornet's determination is pervasive. A one woman army against a second god

>get to the area with the what i'm assuming is 5 hp without needle upgrade flying enemies that fire ricocheting projectiles all while platforming over pits
aight guess its sprinting through this area.

Should I do it? What's gonna happen?

>>719937874
It's fine. It's just a relic collector in the form of music.

>>719937858
Those guys are best ignored, which sounds like bad enemy design.
Those guys are best ignored.

>>719937858
Once you know where to go you can ignore them. They're not actually in the way.

>>719937152
>>due to this, it is possible to go the whole of act 1 with only 6-7 masks
you are telling me i can get more than 5 masks???
literally how

>>719937563
It's in the bench room. Left in the vertical room under the corridor that leads to the mist

I'm having fun with the game but I'm in the middle of Act 2 right now and I don't really feel like I'm getting rewarded much for exploration...this game relies to heavily on its currency I think

>>719937369
>Hornet can snap people's necks entirely unarmed
Holy shit, my cock.
Everything's worth it.

>>719937840
I took a 100 rosary loss intentionally just to stop dying to him over and over. I had no problem at all with HK until Pantheon shit but now I'm actually wondering if I'll get through Silksong without modding

>>719937986
Not that guy but I'm several hours into Act 2 and I JUST got a 7th mask. You should get your sixth before the end of Act 1 though.

>>719937593
It was kino as fuck and you're a brainlet if you don't get it.
>fight gets progressively harder as you fight the duo, both very coordinated movesets and aggresive with ballet-like movements. When you kill one of them the remaining one fights letargically, as if suffering from the death of their pártner.

>>719936012
Dash jump before he spawns

>50% extra shards / beads in act 1
>you heal for 8 silk and cast spells for 4 instead of 10/5
>hunter crest dash is like 15% longer
>can just rez next to boss room instead of running back for 2 minutes, 12 times in a row
modders pls

>>719938021
The problem is that a ton of stuff are centered around shops.
So the rosaries are technically good exploration rewards but that's predicste don the fact that you need to spend them.

Pharloom's kind of a shithole, isn't it?
You can't take a single seat without paying like 50 bucks for a bench to appear.

>>719938021
Yeah, the game is far too stingy with upgrades

>>719938052
i only found 2 shards exploring
no fucking money to buy the mask shards from vendors
i guess technically could get 1 already but fuck this money issues in the game
i never had geo problems in first game

>>719937714
Boomerang is better

>>719936059
HK had shit that cost 1800 geo though

>this is obviously the way you go first since you find the entrance earlier than the lava area
>add a bunch of shitty pogo platforming and a gauntlet boss
>if you survive that here's a bunch of traps that were designed around having sprint
>if you manage to make it past them here's a literal trap save point that will kill you if you dont find the secret area
>also you cannot physically go further without going and getting the parachute even though you could get all the way up to this point without it
>now come back for the shittiest boss fight in the entire game and your reward is the worst crest in the game

>>719937986
I've found six mask shards so far in act 1. Currently being filtered by the Last Judge

>>719938148
Yeah, but Geo wasn't really that hard to find by the time you actually needed that stuff.

>>719938148
Hollow Knight shat out money at you.

>>719936498
I'm missing the Abyss and Verdiana but otherwise yes.

>>719938042
I just bought this item called the Sting Shard and if I had it for the fly, I would’ve beaten it way faster. This is very strong. I heard people spent hours or just gave up against it, it took me 10 tries but still the bosses before it were all first try so this was a big jump.

>>719936083
The "train station" below the pilgrims rest has a secret exit underneath the right platform. Enter and go up. It loops back around. There's a trapped flea, and a horned beetle that's ramming against the door. You can either kill it on sight (it's a small room mind you, and it turns into a ball and bounces off the walls), or open the door to let it out (I don't know the consequences of letting it out yet).

>>719938090
I thought the rent-a-benches in the Citadel were annoying but then I found some kind of robot confessional that asks you to tell it your sins and you say nothing and it replies "what you just told me sounds pretty messed up...you should probably work extra hard and eat less food as penance" or something.

>>719938206
How many hours do you have now?

>>719938148
geo was never an issue in hk unless you were going for the big ticket items like fragile charm upgrades into permanent charms
here you can't afford shit if you just play the game throughout the entire act 1, but can trivially afford things if you just spend an hour or two farming rosary enemies (which are only in a few locations). it's bad design.

>>719938151
>now come back for the shittiest boss fight in the entire game and your reward is the worst crest in the game

it's like poetry; it rhymes

how the fuck are you supposed to speedrun the whole 2 acts and finish it under 5 hours?
literal impossible achievement or what

>>719935112 (OP)
hmmmm

>>719935951
Wreck the house

YO
Is that a fucking Spider-Thread-Magic AI? Thats cool as motherfuck.

>>719938243
25 but Half of that was legitimately just sort of aimlessly wandering around once I reached the room before the final boss as I've gone back to paint the map.

>>719938305
>silksong is shorter than hollow knight

Its actually over.....

>use a nearby enemy to bounce up to an area in the west of Shellwood that would otherwise need unlocking wall jump, chuffed with myself
>Can't get past the next room anyway
>wall jump is unlocked in the area anyway

Alright, now I can finally have fun with the game again

TROBBIOOOOOOOOOOOO

RIP

I'm up to blasted plain and I have no idea who's up there at the citadel but I will wholeheartedly say Pale King's the better ruler. FUCK FARTLOOM

>>719938323
I finished HK 99% completion in 17 hours, I am not a good frame of reference.

honestly this game is at least 100 times harder than anything fromsoft has ever done
this game already has decently hard bosses which is not the norm for metroidvanias
and they somehow made exploring itself cause you to die, as platforming and normal enemies and arena/room fights are quite hard
honestly fromsoft is just a meme company where you cant really ever die exploring

imagine if elden ring you had to buy shit ton of souls to unlock graces and you had bunch of fucking enemies + touch damage
LMAO

>>719938021
To be honest HK had the same issue.

The amount of times I feel smart for wall jumping to a brekable wall, do some platforming, then see FUCKING BEADS as my only reward is infuriating and killing my desire to care in act 2.

>>719938265
Once speedrunners get going five hours will be nothing I'm sure.

>>719938271
the issue isn't the existence of double damage, the issue is double damage on every piddly attack imaginable instead of on the big ones
>moorwing unleashes her blender on your stupid face for 2 damage
fair
>moorwing touches you when slooowly moving, body has zero pointy bits
why the FUCK is it also 2 damage???

fuck this fat fuck with his cheating dice.

>>719938151
Dont worry that part up top, you know the small section you cant quite get to but see it on the map.
Well what if I told you 12 hours later you can FINALLY get up there and its just like 20 rosary.

Seriously fuck this game sometimes

>>719938427
the biggest difference is that souls games are easy to cheese if you want to, but here you just have to git gud

>>719938427
You already forgot the dark souls runbacks... Youre getting old grandpa

am i "supposed" to do sinner's road before last judge? i've heard they're the last boss of act 1, not sure if i get locked out of anything. sinners road sucks ass and i really don't want to back now unless it matter

>>719938467
Yep. the consistent 2-mask contact damage is nuts

>>719938467
this. even environmental damage shouldnt be this punishing

On the one hand I'm feeling pretty good that I've done several difficult challenges today, but on the other hand the challenges in front of me look so daunting. I will get to the end of this game, though.

So The Cradle is defo THE final area, right

It's weird to see something as big as a charm that betters your healing be locked behind an 880 Bead purchase at a shop. Wouldn't such a thing be more befitting a boss fight reward, something to make the player go 'oh fuck yeah!' And some of the better tools as exploration rewards, and more mask shards/spool in the early game...there's apparently 20 mask shards in the game and I finished act 1 with three. Rosaries are important for so many character progression things but I think it would've been far better to just keep them as being bench/spool refills/map things instead

>>719938542
Youre doing Sinners road in act 1?

>>719938576
cradle is the end of the tutorial

>>719938583
>betters
Makes it worse*

Maybe this game is just not for me. I'm more of a cerebral gamer.

>>719938583
devs did a really weird decision in that in act 1 you're starved for anal beads and almost EVERY exploration reward is anal beads
act 2 shits out beads everywhere and you actually start to find the good stuff
this makes act 1 exploration wildly unrewarding, especially since everything costs a shitton and isn't even all that good

Anons I'm honestly not having that much more trouble in silksong than I did in the original Hollow Knight. It feels equal difficulty honestly, just a bit more chaotic. i only played through Hollow Knight once, many years ago so I can distinctly remember my woes.

>>719938605
kek
honestly I can't even judge him this shit is insane

>>719938687
Play music to the butterflies
Then follow them to the exit they fly to
Repeat this a few times

>>719935112 (OP)
>protagonist is a chick
Yeah, I'll pass

>>719938681
Can you send me some of your adderall please I can pay you in nudes

>20 hours to get double jump
has any other metroidvania been this fucking stingy with that upgrade? jesus.

So is reaper for shitters?

Platformings way more fuck you but I honestly enjoy the combat way more in silksong.
Hollow Knights combat was fucking awful

>>719938589
i found a path up there from greymoor a while ago thinking it was the intended route, got walled, then saw the one little path i hadn't found in shell woods that led to the blasted steps. i assumed sinner's road act 1 was intended since it's accessible

>>719938712
Does a NPC tell you to do it?
Because I tried to play music but I stopped too early.

>>719938542
I didn't find sinner's road until after the credits.

>>719938741
Sorry anon, I do have adhd but i dont take adderall

>>719938770
hk gave double jump kind of late too. not 20 hours late but i want to say it was the last movement upgrade i got other than the void dash

>witch moveset is fucking great
>its heal is absolutely unusable
FUCK

am i supposed to have a nail upgrade before the last judge or no?

>>719938776
Its just wanderer fags trying to do HKs retarded bounce attack spam shit talking it and not realizing the bosses will slap your shit if you try it.

The real EZ mode baby crest is architect it makes your tools refill via silk

How are we feelin about the new NPCs, by the way? I haven't heard much about them aside from the new map lady and the dead kid walking.

>>719938809
I have no idea how you are supposed to learn it on your own.
Some anon said to do it and it worked for me.

>>719938852
you get a free needle upgrade from the bell city after you save it, so yeah probably. it doesn't feel like it makes a huge difference though

>>719938852
Yes, did you not talk to the smith dude in belltown?

>>719938781
The first Lace fight is probably one of the most fun fights in either game, but god DAMN I hate platforming with the new down slash.

>>719938868
Were all probably missing 90% of their storylines because Im pretty sure the games copying elden rings schizo NPC stories.

>>719938809
Maybe but I found it out when I thought it was the only way forward and realised my last upgrade was the song, just don't do it when there's a ghost on your ass

>>719938852
Seeing as it's free and in the area before it I would say yes

Anybody wants to trade me a Nuu card for my Lace card? I wanna complete the badge.

>Error: Maximum allowed video duration is 120 seconds.
fuck you too

>>719938868
they're fine, i didn't really care about any hk npcs besides quirrel so this feels about on par. the one pilgirm girl with the cymbal on her head is my daughter-fu

I found it weird how Team Cherry added a section of the game where you lost all of your power like in RJ01360185 and had to suck and fuck big stinky men to find your way out of prison.

Why the fuck is Needolin on a face button?
You barely use it at all, meanwhile you have to press 2 buttons at once to pogo or use tools, makes no sense at all to me.
They don't even allow you to remap pogo or tools.

>>719938913
You need to ditch the default crest and go to reaper/wanderer.
They have normal downswings

>>719938868
I like the creepy root lady. Don't know whats going on with her but I hope to find out soon

Is there a boss rush in this game on launch like pantheon or nah?

>>719937758
sounds fun, right now i'm trying to master using the rebound into a bounce attack off the monsters head with down swing. I don't know what the other anon was talking about when he said the spring attacks were clunky.

Any point to the relics or is it just worthless lore?

>>719938868
Shakra is based.
Sherma is based.
Don Quixote is based.
Bone Bottom was meh at first but the Tyrant attack was hilarious so it gets bumped up to semi based.
Lace is sex.
Grindle is semi based.
Fleas are based.
Bell Beast is fine but Stag was KINO.

I'm warming up to them as much as the HK NPCs. Nothing tops Quirrel though because he encapsulates the appeal of HK and the genre. He loves exploring and discovering shit.

What's the fastest way to get bone shards? I'm spending hundreds fighting the Phantom

>press down right stick
>do that aoe move from when you fought Hornet but it’s shit
so I’m gonna assume this becomes good again later on?

>>719938229
i let it out because i was at 1 hp so i tried to leave first to heal. it just disappeared. i assume that had i broken down the 30 beads door, it would kill the npcs inside. but since i didn't, nothing happened.

>>719938990
She really likes you too!

>>719938903
>>719938895
i dont know, there are 2 retarded bugs that serve no purpose
shop with no wares
and some dude that calls me a slave cause i breathe

>>719938971
I used Steam input + my dualsense for a few things

>1.
I remapped Needolin to left trackpad press
>2.
I remapped Down+RB (AKA tool 2) to right trackpad pess
>3
I remapped Up+RB (AKA tool 1) to Triangle/Y face button

This is far better. I get why they mapped it as they did, because most controllers have fewer buttons, but this annoyed me as well. If you don't have a Dualsense, you can remap Needolin to Start Button or something and just use KB esc key to pause.

Why arent village music any good as citiy of tears?

>>719939082
Jump up anon

>>719935472
step 1: get good RNG so he never spawns the tanky types
step 2: get good RNG again so he slams a lot instead of flying from side to side
step 3: get good RNG so he slams into the monsters, killing them
that's all there is to it. inb4 you mean the other beastfly

>>719938868
the simp who immediately pledges himself as your slave was funny, singing pilgrim is great, the dude who helps you against moorwing and yells ZAZABAAA is based, and i like the architect lady (?) in the underworks, she cute.
but map lady is the best character so far and it's not even close.

>>719939105
dude..
>>719939082
i thought the platform top side of the shop was not a platform but part of the building...

>>719938510
I spent two hours doing it before I even had the parachute, thinking I was "sequence breaking". Herding flies into just the right spots to pogo off of with the shitty diagonal pogo. Doing image training for the miniboss fight because I only got one shot at it every 10-20 minutes. Finally succeeding with one hit left, feeling elation. Running into the next screen, thinking I was about to find some charm or tool or maybe even a new area. And my reward was rosaries. Not even a lot of them.

The game has some huge issues.

This game really looks like shit on a VA TV. The walls are all black and the backgrounds are grey which is a nightmare for smearing. All of the walls leave traces behind when you're moving.

>>719936393
the game hasnt had much parkour so this will be fun. im too fuckin spoiled by the pop lost crown game

>>719939082
go to left of the room and then go up the ladder for two more shops, retard-kun

boomerang seems to be the strongest tool so far

>>719937448
this thing really like to do a micro movement and change its trajectory slightly every time it attack. one of the most annoying and hard bosses for me.

>>719939108
reward for this sucks btw

>>719939108
If you stay near the wall when he charges he always crashes into them

Why are the throwables so deceptively weak?

I've started using them and they're so damn strong actually.

Any other weaver gates I am missing? So far I got the far forest one and the moss one

Has anyone figured out the shaman crest yest?

>>719938467
absolutely, they should make it one or better yet do dmg only after a bit of time, the same way that walkable lava works

does fire defense trinket help with last judge's fire attacks or just environmental fire?

>bilewater
guess I found this game's deepnest

>>719939376
kill yourself

>>719939054
uh, she doesn't rape me, right?

>EVA tells me to come back after Hornet has grown stronger
>come back after 1 upgrade
>says the same thing
>randomly come back after 5 hours
>gives me an extra reward, is still asking for more
What triggers the rewards?

>>719939496
I think it might be number of crests collected since all her upgrades are crest related.

>Pale King wanted to make a pure being with no thoughts or will
>Void is outright stated to be a culmination of willpower
Is he just stupid??

Okay.
Goodbye money, it was nice knowing you.

>come on man it’s 2AM, I gotta go to sleep
>tell myself the last thing I’ll do is report to Nuu for the 100 monster quest, farm a few mobs in Greymoor on the way to Bellhart because I’m like 30 beads shy form the 880 bead item that I want, then turn it off and go to sleep
>tfw I get fucking abducted on the way to Bellamy and now I’m naked
I just want to go to fucking sleep man.

>Team Cherry's favorite games of all time are Faxanadu and Zelda 2
>Silksong is the game they wanted to make when left to their own devices
>they made the modern day equivalent to a fucking autistic CBT NES game

Silksong's difficulty makes so much damn sense now, /v/. It makes so much sense.
The devs are actually just wholesale autistic.

>>719935112 (OP)
This game has really terrible amateurish art

>>719939251
Caltrops have been carrying me

>>719938770
How did you do the lake portion of Mount Fay? I have no fucking idea how to tackle it and I think this is the last obstacle before I get to this upgrade

>>719939290
I found another in the Worm Tunnels but it needs double jump to reach

I can't find the last Pollip Heart, help...

>>719935112 (OP)
Any beast crest enjoyers? Is it good against bosses?

That''s... not actually the runback for bilewater's boss, is it? Please tell me it's not.

>>719939623
>form the 880 bead item that I want
Its shit

>>719939601
Void is a void, it absorbs everything, it was only incidentaly the medium PK used to mass produce vessels, the real emptiness was giving him autism and ptsd from doing 100 reps of saw blade pogo a day

>>719939614
>money cannon

>>719939626
i am honestly exceedingly glad that one of the most popular indie games of all time hearkens back to NINTENDO DIFFICULTY plaformers

this is going to inspire a new generation

>>719939695
I got 5/6 then gave up and looked up the last location on youtube

Those god damned exploding ice bugs in Mount Fay can get fucked. I miss Primal Aspids.

>The fucking Bliewater runback
>The 'fuck you' fake bench

>>719939626
Silksong has so little QoL and assfucks you so much that I definitely see them styling it on such archaic games.

>>719939724
It's more of a gatling gun, actually.

>>719939720
I swear to god it’s intentional. They got so fed up with the fan whining over the last 7 years they decided to just fuck with us

>>719939752
I don't wanna do that, though. Can you give me a hint?

>>719939703
The closest one is the secret storehouse bench

>>719939696
Good against bosses, ass for everything else

>>719938841
How get witch

>>719939806
I can’t, I don’t know which of the 6 you’re missing

>>719939802
The heal charm right?
It does increase healing by 1 but the increase in heal time annoyed me

>>719939838
I just ran from the fucking bell beast, okay, guess I'll look for this secret storehouse.

>>719939601
>Void is outright stated to be a culmination of willpower
Source?

>game has parry if you just hit when enemy hits
what the frick!!!

>>719939601
The Pale King had the power of foresight but was also a desperate manic retard who wanted to avoid it at all costs. Void is described as Malleable because the Pale King needed it to be. When in actuality, for the Knight to fully destroy the Radiance he needed to recognize that it was his own will that wanted it, not the Pale King

>>719939695
The last one is on a secret shortcut to the bell city boss, go reach the boss and look around

>>719939614
Wheres that from?

>>719939887
The fame has an actualy parry too

>>719939108
1. mash buttons like a monke
2. miss half your attacks
3. make fight take so long it doesn't fit into one webm
4. ???
5. profit!

>>719939887
Hollow Knight had it too

>release day
>"I better try to avoid spoilers"
>two days later
>"just tell me where everything is, please"

>>719939896
Of course it is, so I've been doing laps around Shellwood for nothing.

?????

Widow wasn't as difficult as I thought it would be. I just didn't realize you could sit in the corner.

Is anyone using the faster sprint charm?

>>719939920
faggot pussy goes in with the op crest and 2 tools and posts this webm without shame. nigger moment

>>719938371
Result of emptying his stock?

>>719938427
I haven't really found it that hard. Not as hard as Order of Ecclesia.

To the anon who told me to stand in the cauldron
Ur gey
I thought there would be a fun secret but you just take damage like a fucking dingus

>spend hour fighting boss
>get a white screen with some text as a reward
this is really starting to get on my nerves

so which is harder?
last judge or the road to last judge kek

>>719939971
0:24 peak satisfaction

>>719940023
>implying there are other crests
>implying I have brain capacity for more than one tool

was struggling with widow for a few lives then no hit the entire fight out of nowhere

>>719940049
It annoys me that bosses don't drop bone shards and rosaries

>>719939670
what part of the lake are you struggling with? it's pretty linear and it's just a lot of using the grapple dash and the glide.

>>719940039
where u at currently anon?

>>719940007
There's not much else to use. Sprint, Steady body, and Compass

I LOVE GETTING 3 TAPPED BY EVERY SINGLE BOSS.
I LOVE BOSSES WHO SUMMON ADS THAT ALSO 3 TAP YOU.
I LOVE ENVIRONMENTAL HAZARDS THAT ALSO DO 2 MASKS OF DAMAGE.
I LOVE THAT EVERY SINGLE BENCH COSTS MONEY TO UNLOCK BUT ONLY 5% OF ENEMIES ACTUALLY DROP MONEY.
I LOVE OBNOXIOUSLY LONG BOSS RUNBACKS.

>>719940093
I struggled with him because I started spergraging. Once I stopped I beat him and realized his patterns.

High Hall fight was nothing considering what people were saying, is there really no boss either

>>719935112 (OP)
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i see the bullshit now with sister weaver
iframes being half a second enough that if you get hit by one slam you can immediately get combod into the other if you dont know about your invul iframes from being hit

also adds lmao fuck you

Kind of confused by the crossroads shape of the tunnel that you get to from the right side of the Bellhart station. From what I can tell it only leads directly down to where the angry doomer lives and the resulting tunnels, but no right or left paths.

Serious question.

Do we think the devs will nerf the game a bit? Just curious.
The inmediately replied to the chink translation issues but I don't know if they'll ever relent to their fans bitching.

>>719940118
Just past Trobio

>>719940106
seriously, you don't have to give me the gigaraper 9000 but would a few coins be too much to ask? I'm not even going to get the true ending so what ever the FUCK these retarded spiders are telling me doesn't matter at all. The boss in the picture I posted was really fun though, maybe that was my reward :)

Ey yo Golden Kamuy reference?

>>719940179
sorry, only your moves will get nerfed if anyone finds an abuse

>>719939092
Because nothing can match that place.

The Widow was an incredibly fun boss.

>>719940134
I'm fine with the difficulty, but I've never been a fan of meatboy platforming

>>719940179
I hope not. The only nerfs I'd be ok with would be making some of the runbacks better because some of them are just retarded. 2 mask damage from bosses should have been in the first game.

>>719940023
>faggot pussy goes in with the op crest and 2 tools
it's either this or
>fucking casuals think the game is too hard when it gives you so many tools
kindly confine your Soulschud faggotry to its appropriate threads. thank you for your attention to this matter.

Just beat the Last Judge. By far the most fun I've had with a boss in this game so far. Satisfyingly challenging and felt less frustrating that Widow too. It felt like I was dancing around Nightmare King Grimm again. I loved staying up close when she threw the ball out and jumping over on the sling back, or hitting her with a silk spear while she did the ring attack.

>>719940134
I have yet to encounter a single painfully long runback
Gitgud also
And the reason you're lacking in beads is because you're not exploring properly. If you explore everywhere and kill every enemy once per screen (the canonical way to play) and don't die so you preserve your beads, you will have enough for everything. Saving them by turning them into rosaries is also an important strategy

I just got to far fields and Im stuck in the fucking house with the ANNOYING AF BIRD MONSTER GAUNTLET SOMEONE SAVE ME NIGGER MAN AIIEEEEE I cant even leave and fuck off without giving up 500 rosaries because THERE IS NO WAY TO LEAVE THE HOUSE ONCE YOU GET IT

The widow was an incredibly easy boss

I don't know why people are complaining about the difficulty, I'm finding it a lot more fair than, say, lies of P.

>>719940023
lmao someone spent a few hours on this boss

>all the bosses from Act 2 onwards
PLEASE TELL ME THIS GAME HAS A GODHOME OR HALL OF GODS

SOME OF THESE BOSSES ARE SO KINO AND I WOULD SEETHE IF I CANT REFIGHT THEM

>>719940269
the change to invuln frames on hit is whats causing most damage anyway.
needs another half second added so you dont get combo'd to death by bullshit

Hornet covered in sticky substances, naked and stuck

>>719940293
Bench warp?

>>719940356
there isnt
it will come as DLC 100%

>>719939909
The vault in High Halls.

>>719940179
>fix the runbacks
>make a bunch of benches free
>make bosses drop a lot of shards so if you run dry from getting filtered you can easily recharge them
>having a sign in front of the ant area saying "WARNING, THIS ARE WILL FUCK YOU UP, TURN BACK UNLESS YOU ARE READY" so idiots get the idea
>add iframes(to different attacks so you can't get combo'd, multi-hit attacks are fine)
There, the game is now perfect

Okay I admit it.
I admit okay?

I find Silksong harder than most Souls games. What the fuck is this insane shit.

>>719940171
Yeah I'm confused about that, too. I can only assume there's going to be some later discovered extra area under bellhart, like maybe basements of houses or something? Idk. Maybe it also has to do with the entrance being the bell beast hub, which you go into a building for. Ususally "indoor" areas don't appear on the map, but I think that leads directly into the maze. Idr if there was a screen transition?

Wish me luck bros

>spotted the cymbal girl sleeping in Bellhart as I was entering the station
>immediately returned to the city area
>she's gone
FUCK

whos idea was it to have adds on a boss fight that deal 2 masks worth of damage?

Flea brew + Wanderer Crest seems like it just tears through bosses.

>>719940368
I'm pretty sure some of the multihit moves are coded to go through invuln to punish you for getting hit on purpose. The actual invuln frames are pretty long, like a second or close to it.

>>719940134
This, but unironically.

>get killed by last judge for first time
>sherma shows up at the bench

>>719940428
Well you had to wait until the fight was done before you could post your screenshot, so how did it go?

>>719940445
Its basically the nailcuck build from the first game

am I supposed to have any fucking weapon upgrades, health upgrades or crests by the time Im in far field. because I fucking dont. and it really feels like I should. these enemies take 20 fucking hits to kill.

Any tips for Widow second phase?

>>719940093
For me, it's because I realize you should just not fuck with the bells. They bounce and if you just wait, you can hit her.

>>719940045
cute

>>719940179
I made this post in a previous thread, but I'll post it here cause it's relevant and I'm hungry for (You)s
Anyone got a gif of the taunt btw?

They won't nerf shit dude
This is what they originally intenteded hollow knight to be
They designed the game around 3 masks from the beginning. They only upped it to 5 as a last minute decision. Back then, it was probably the right move as the lessened difficulty probably helped it go mainstream, but now that they've made it they have no need to pull punches at all. You start with 5 masks but it may as well be 3 because every enemy that matters deals 2 pips right out of the gate. I just got my fourth mask shard, so I'm up to 6, but that still means I die in 3 hits from every boss lol. Only the fractured skull is able to act as a crutch, but even that isn't enough most of the time. Also, it's basically garunteed that by the time you have something like 8 masks, you'll be dealing with 3 pip damage enemies and bosses lol

I just barely started and I´m already stuck...
I reached the place where the singing kid? is singing in front of a big bug surrounded by webs that quickly respawn after cutting one. I guess you need fire or something to go through there? also there is another place with those webs that cant pass..

>too tired to keep playing
>too wired to sleep
I'm gonna dream about platforming challenges and enemy gauntlets I know it.

I feel so fucking fast now.

team cherry introduces pantheons as part of the dlc
there is 1 single bench in P5 of Silksong
the bench is payed
it costs 100 rosary beads to rent for the run
honestly i can see it happening
you run out of beads and need to farm before redoing P5

>>719940508
You won't get a weapon upgrade for a long time, you can maybe get one health upgrade in act 1 if you explore everything.

>>719940293
Wrong moron, just die by the door and you can grab it and reload your save.

>>719940459
im noticing it on weavers fight
you get hit by a normal hands, the invuln frames end just enough for a second hand to hurt you
not to mention the adds spin bullshit. theres no invuln there and meant to eat two hits, but also means you can get hit by other shit during it too.

its honestly obnoxious what they are doing with the game

>>719940278
Just wait until you get to Lace 2
Unironically feels like a fencing match where you need to stab her before she can riposte you and spacing is everything

>>719940510
She's basically always comboing that fucking charge with everything else so just constantly expect it.

When should I go to Hunter's March?

>>719940539
just go play something else if you're asking questions like this that early

>Needolin
>look inside
>harp sounds

>>719940428
Just dodge, don't attack when he sweeps.

Beast should be doing twice as much damage as other crests when you get the worst pogo in the game and you cant heal without dealing damage but you still have to deal with the same shitty healing animation.

>>719940484
It took me four tries honestly, glad to have help

>>719940372
dont know what this is and dont have it but it wouldnt make a difference. have to go inside the house to get my money and then Im trapped.

>Love everything
>Still FUCKS UP THE MAP SYSTEM IN A METROIDVANIA
>Its mix of requiring actual skill vs progression isnt paced well at the start, the first 8-10 hours are a mish mash of fun and serious frustration and not in a good way
>some runbacks are cancer and seem to be a leftover of a 7 year long dev game
>the rest is kino

Its getting better, im not bitching nearly as much as I did and my past bitching is lessened, but this game def needed like 1 legit game designer on par with the rest of the devs.

I cant praise fully because its lacking in its actual genre. Metroid Prime perfected how to do it when lost, all based on time and progression, if you are pacing well and always advancing, you wont really get the alerts that theres an area you SHOULD check out but not guided on exactly where, the HK version would be like "Hey, Deepnest is really in a tizzy, maybe go here" after you spent 2 hours finding other shit in areas you already did, it lets you explore but also give guidence without saying exactly where, just, "its somewhere in this massive biome". Super Metroid and SOTN perfected the map, having to fucking BUY maps after you get the quill is fucking retarded. Maps should be a bonus that show you a guide, but without a map that also is the guide, the quill and automap is useless.

I think most of my issues with Silksong can easily be fixed in a patch. Im loving most of it, just the shit im crying about im still not a fan of, and 2 damage platform hazards need to go ASAP. Its so cancer.

>>719940557
Pair it with flea brew and run through the room again.

>has an animation putting on her cloak
>can go in a hot spa, sit in there long enough and the bug outside stares and perves on you
>naked when she's in jail
Glad the devs are also horny for Hornet.

>>719940510
Pick a corner, dodge her slash. Then when she repositions in the center, go hit her before the straight bells fall. You can't get hit in the corner unless the bells roll to you which they can so just hit them away.

>>719940601
im going after killing widow, it seems right

>normal attack, pogo
5 dmg
>fast throwing knife
5 dmg
>triple knife
4 + 2 + 1 dmg
>pollip pouch poison on tool
2x 2dmg.. I think?
>silk spear
15 dmg
>thread storm
5x 4dmg

>>719940510
>dodge the balls
>keep in mind they will bounce
>be ready for the slash attack she does while you are distracted
You can do it anon, it's just phase 1 but faster.

>>719940565
didnt know I could do that, thanks anon.

Wait a second. If you do the pogo jump and go into Sinner's Road early, then go through the mist and kill Phantom, it opens up right into the Underworks.
Is this a Last Judge skip? Not that it's useful to me now, but...

>>719940634
If you just save and quit to menu you'll go back to the bench after you recover your shit. Even if you're in the middle of a boss fight or enemy gauntlet.

>>719940624
yeah that shit is trash I don't know what they were thinking. It should have lifesteal baseline at the very least.

>>719940684
Is that with reaper?

>>719940023
The reaper isn't OP
It decreases the speed and reach of your swings. It's "easier" to use because it feels more like hollow knight does, but it's not an instant win button. The game is still hard and there are cases where the speed of hunter crest is better suited. It's absolutely necessary for platforming though

>>719940510
Anon ignore all advice.

You can volley the balls with your needle. After 15 attempts I noticed this and 1 shot her, great fight.

>>719940709
You'll be needing it a lot to save trips when you climb later.

Does anyone know the lore yet?

>>719940661
>AUS has a saying 'We're not here to fuck spiders' along the lines of 'No shit idiot'
>Team Cherry took this literally

>>719940039
That's bullshit Ecclesia is piss easy even going for no-damage

>>719940734
Nah, Wanderer does the best damage and is the best for platforming. Its only weakness (flying fuckers) is fixed by a weaver skill

>>719940734
Reaper has absolutely no downside
And after you get five spool upgrades, you're basically immortal as long as you can keep getting your healing off, stabbing the boss five times and collecting the pips.

>>719940763
slowfall?
actually whatever you're probably actually retarded nevermind buddy yeah thats so unfair

am I the only person who likes the new (default) pogo? at first it seemed shitty but now Im having a lot of fun bouncing off niggas heads

havent gotten any other crests yet but Ill probably just stick to this one

Did I just cuck myself out of content?
The beast slamming at the door in Far Fields, next to the jew pitstop.
I went around and found my way to it, but after opening the door I just escaped.
Now I went back and it's gone.
What the fuck...

>turn in spines for cloak
>screen goes black
>sounds still going
>nothing is happening
I never get the animation for riding the Bell Beast either. It works like 5% of the time

>>719940763
How did you not learn by now to never fall without seeing what's down there? The game tricks you all the time.

>>719940658
Motherfucker I'm gonna have to backtrack there again huh.

>>719940510
Always expect her to follow up her ball summon with an attack, basically get 1 attack in after the summon and wait if you have to dodge.
You can easily heal by jumping over her after an attack and using your heal in the air.

>Harpoon isn't omnidirectional
WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
WHY DON'T THEY WANT ME TO HAVE ANY FUN

>>719940823
It's too late...
They are coming...

>>719940821
I like it, only thing I don't like is when it can't decide on what you're targeting and you bounce on the wrong one.

>knock weaver down
>body floppin down hurts you
lmao

>>719940861
That would make it to easy to deal with bird flying away whenever you get close

How do you get back to the first half of the game once you get to the second part? I have so many beads but I can't find where to fast travel back to places like bellheart.

>>719940786
a bunch of pretentious cryptic mumbo jumbo slop not meant to be taken seriously at all that will be dissected by jewtubers for hundreds of hours just like dark souls

>>719940798
>Wanderer does the best damage
No way, Hunter+ hits extra hard when you max the focus meter.

>>719940821
I like it too, the platforming sections feel designed around it.

>>719940823
You should have killed it first. Now your bonfire buddy is gonna die.

>>719940786
It's basically they want her silk, but there's another badass in town too.

really dumb not having invuln during your aoe spindle attack lmao

>>719940889
EXACTLY
WHY IS THIS GAME SO ANTI-FUN
EVERY TIME I THINK I GET TO DO SOMETHING FUN THE GAME IS LIKE
NAH THAT'D BE TOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO FUN FUCK YOU

>>719940926
fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffuck

>>719940959
yeah I went back to the spear because the range is too good

>>719940763
Slowfall or use rightstick

>finally beat last judge
>that wasn't too bad
>next room is a map (?) that costs money
>i have none so i move on
>next area is a bench that costs money per sit
jesus christ i'm ok with progress being a reward but the the fucking begging for money at every step of this game is fucking ridiculous. been a while since i played hollow knight but my memory was that a few of the benches cost money, not 90% of the benches in the goddam game

i don't think the combat difficulty needs to be nerfed, i'm enjoying that (though some boss runbacks are annoying) but the money route absolutely needs tweaking

>>719940921
On paper Hunter does the best damage, but Wanderer does like 5 hits in 2 seconds where other crests dont

>>719940907
Silksong is way more in-your-face with its narrative and has very involved NPC interactions compared to HK.

>>719940786
Uhhhh Capitalism or something

>go through the long quest for witch crest
>it kinda sucks actually
damn

>>719941074
They made wanderer too good

>last judge second phase
What the hell

>>719938963
how do you get here?

Oh damn they took me on a journey

>>719940730
crests only change movesets, not damage
>>719940684
ahkshually damage isn't constant, it depends on the mob. early game rosary mobs you hit for 7 instead of 5
sprint -> attack also deals 'base' damage (usually 5)

>>719941132
Protip: don't blow your load (read: subweapons) on the first phase
Also, poison boomerang

>>719941043
Act 2 shits out rosaries at you dont worry about it

>>719941049
>Wanderer does like 5 hits in 2 seconds
If the boss stays still maybe, you rarely have enough time to attack for 2 seconds straight outside staggers.
Hunter hits hard enough that it competes with the theoretical max performance of Wanderer with less hits connecting to the boss, if you can keep up the stacks then it's better(pogos aside)

>>719940786
The people of pharloom get fucked by mother silk since they were injecting silk into themselves for immortality and resurrection, becoming puppets. Not entirely sure why mother silk is doing that or who she is but I'm guessing she's one of the original weavers and according to her entry is trying to fully wake up. Also seems she desperately desires a child, going so far as to weave lace purely out of silk as an imitation

>get to greymoor
>map slut tells me not to go right cause its tough
>i go right
>am now stuck in flying enemy bullshit hell

I shouldve listened. will going back and getting the wanderers crest help you think? Im still base stats everything

What the hell were they thinking when they made the Beast crest pogo??

where do i find gilly after hunter march statue?

>pay money for bench
>it's fucking jammed
Whoever maintains this piece of shit city should have their pay docked.

>>719941167
My friend told me about the poison.
Where can I find it? Is it the purple plant quest?

>>719941110
An area I missed earlier after I already traveled so far, thanks anon.

>>719941303
>jammed
you mean the sinner road one?
you can fix that by the way. Explore that room

>>719940716
how do you get through the mist zone?

>>719941295
You just found out about this game two weeks ago

>>719941295
Qnd in loving every minute of it lmao

Except the spine quest fuck that quest is ginna suck on repeat playthroughs

>>719938206
I also have everything else...abyss is probably via the bell in deep docks but I have no idea how to activate it

btw there's an achievement for fighting the coral king boss but when I go to the coral temple there's just a statue of the guy. Anybody fought him?

t. ~30 hours logged

>>719941295
>that is almost entirely the exact same
I must've forgotten when Hollow Knight had a diverse selection of ranged weaponry, buffs and movesets you can choose from.

>>719941326
Yeah.

>>719940821
No, it's super annoying having to reorient after every hit and also not being 100% sure if it'll reach or not. It's usable, I just prefer not to

>>719941303
top left of room hit wall
I fucking hate that zone and the one after it and everyone at team cherry should be raped by niggers for making it

>>719941235
hunter's march bench room
then i dunno that's as far as i got

>>719941378
>spine quest
the one where you get your glide/float dress? that look like 3 minutes for me anon...

>>719941396
>almost

lmfao
>even mocking it, sounds like "Oh look at meee, I'm HORnet, bluh bluh"

>>719941364
Play music in front of the glowbugs and follow them to the correct exit. Do this a few times. Yes, you're gonna have to swim in maggots for a little bit after.

>>719940821
I like it. Better than this shitty beast crest I got after beating addsfly

>going up blasted steps
>the wind blows
>fucks you up
>you take damage because you can't control yourself out of it
Very cool.

>>719941220
Idk this shit looks unusable. Into the bin it goes

great, got a wall jumps so now i have to go through every fuckin level again

>>719940763
Do people actually not press down to look down in dark areas?
I thought we ALL did this.

for anons who beat the game, how does the length compare to HK? spent a good 30-40 hours in that one (not counting all the pantheon shit cause nah) so Im hoping its similar

>>719941426
the sinner road bench -> bilewater bench route is fucking retarded. It's probably my fault exploring these places in act 1 but still

>>719941198
No, just go get the traps and learn how to deal with the small birds as soon as possible. The trick is to jump over them and hit them. Only takes 4 hits so count.

Is the Beast Crest good for boss fights?

>>719941149
gimme a sec to share images, here's text

Warning: there's a "bagman"/snatcher like enemy in the game, like from Bloodborne. And yes, same thing, if he "catches" you it's a unique death with a teleport to a new location

after like midway through hunter's march, the red ants area. There's area with air currents going upward. Go down and to the left, go down the first hole you see, and then move rightward. There should be an entrance to an area that I think you need the climbing ability to reach.

>>719941495
I’m 7 hours in and only have two mask shards. It’s Long.

>>719941517
Nope. Pogoing is vital and that crest has an atrocious pogo.

>>719941454
>Play music in front of the glowbugs
nigger are you fucking serious? I guess the game tells you later or something
actually while you're here can you tell me how to get to the map in picrel? I just gave up on that zone and the mists and went to judge

>>719941526
thank you!

>>719941516
>traps

uhhh what traps??

>>719941551
I have 3 in 2 and half hours

>>719940658
neat

>>719941517
You don’t do more damage with the fury mode, but you can use the mode while at full health and just tank attacks and regen it back through hits. But your range is shorter, your down attack is shit, and your up attack sucks too. Hell even your dash attack is a fucking JUMP.

>>719941396
silksong variety is 1. what pogo do you want 2. what skin do you want on your throwable. HK genuinely had more build variety

>witch crest has a sick moveset
>but it's trash tier like beast crest because it fucks with your heal
sad
i really like the agile spinny shit

>>719941665
You could just git gud

>>719941526
>>719941149
How to get imprisoned in Silksong

>>719941665
It's only downside is the heal. It's easily the best moveset.

>>719941596
Does that include the one you can buy at the start

>>719941414
Time to find my way out of the Citadel then.
I don't think my beetle friend is going to transport me.

>>719941149
>>719941526
>>719941695
oh right and note you need wall jump/climb. You can't access this otherwise

>>719941594
The one from the smith in the lava area.

>>719941743
(double jump works too ofc but wallclimb is earliest)

>>719941665
beast also fucked up diagonals

>>719941695
uh. he respawns, right?

I finally beat this fucker, I suck at this game.

>>719941743
I have never revisited this area after obtaining wall jump, never would have figured this one out with you anons,thanks a lot!

>>719941695
not sure if i got to this area, hope ugly bastard is still there

>>719941790
I don't know. I would hope he respawns!

I reloaded since I killed him and realized "wait, what if he doesn't respawn?"

Im not too far into the game but I really dont like how youre limited to one charm of each type. I liked HKs system much more of just having universal charm notches you could upgrade.

>>719941831
Memory shards.

>>719941831
>youre limited to one charm of each type
you aren't

>>719941831
That’s only on the first crest before you buy more slots but I don’t blame you for not knowing that cause you’re early on in the game

>>719941665
When do you get to start the witch crest quest?

>>719941810
np, I saved the ant area for a while since I wanted to explore other places first

>>719941831
I'm about 3 hours in

Nap time

>>719941495
I'm 30 hours in and I've still got a good chunk left. Just did the white flower delivery equivalent, basically at the point where I've explored everything that's obvious and now I need to figure out how to get into the weird rooms and unlock the areas that are clearly missing.

>>719941893
deserved
they could make the pull back an instant kill grab and it would still be fair with how long it takes

>>719941831
I'm fine with how it works in this game. In the first I thought it was fucking stupid to have your compass charm directly competing with your damage charms right off the bat.

>>719941885
after getting the grapple, i think. pretty sure you need it to access the area where you get the item that "starts" it.

>SEVEN YEARS
SEVEN YEARS
>SEVEN YEARS
SEVEN YEARS
>SEVEN YEARS
SEVEN YEARS

>>719941993
instead it competes with your currency and movement speed charms. very epic. hell, even if the slots were universal it'd be the same thing because those 3 are the top 3 now that there aren't any damage charms or anything.

>When you get your stuff back in the prison, Hornet fucking BREAKS THE GUARDS NECK and backflips off of him, dressing midair
JESUS FUCKING CHRIST

PLEASE

HOW DO IGET RID OF THE GUCKING BABY I CAN'T TAKE IT ANYMORE

I ALREADY BEAT THE GAME AND I JAVE BEEN EVERYWHETE BESIDES THE RIGHT NOST BIOME NEAR FAR LANDS AND THE SOUTHERN BIOME UNDER DEEP DOCKS

PLEASD JUST 1 HIT IS ALL IM ASKIMG FOR

New thread doko?

does anywhere remember where the spider doors you unlock with music are? i forgot to mark them
>>719942119
hornet says "total tranny death"

Does this game have a hidden final boss like radiance

>>719942224
do people think threads can only be made by jannies or what? post it if you want it

new bread?

>>719942349
Threads are made by hitting enemies and then using silk arts idiot

>can't unequip clothes/needle for melee only mode
Awwwww

>>719942349
>do people think threads can only be made by jannies or what?
It's just a link request if someone already made it anon, also it helps to avoid double threads.

>>719942282
there's one in the starting area, near rocks and spikes

Did I miss something by taking the caravan to Greymoore?

go with fleas? y/n

>>719942775
Yes.

>>719942282
You don't have to, they have special lines on the map

>find random out of area secret
>shard bundle
come the fuck on

Hornet can keep her junk

>>719943042
>here is your ovipositor, madam