Thread 720026404

>6 clans (technically 7), Gangrel and Nosferatu got cut, Banu Haqim and Lasombra were added, Malkavian is “playable” for all
>2 of them (Toreador and Lasombra) are locked behind $20 day 1 DLC, Paradox got shit on so much they said they’re changing it
>Fabian is Malkavian, whenever you “sleep” you play as him in the past to regain his memories
>Fabian is a 1920s Malkavian detective and you explore his memories as him to figure out how he got murdered
>Part of the reason for the delay was Fabian got completely rewritten, before he was a lot “younger” and more “modern”
>Cannot customize face, but can change makeup, hair, clothing, piercings, and so on. This is because Phyre is Middle Eastern and that has story relevance
>Phyre’s background and how NPCs react will change depending on dialogue options over time (the devs acknowledged that players may lie, too)
>As Phyre you can unlock powers from other clans by harvesting their emotional resonances from feeding on them
>Phyre has some powers, like telekinesis, unlocked by default because they are an Elder
>More work was put on mobility, like climbing, gliding, and a “vampire run”
>No inventory, you can use weapons like guns and knives but you don’t carry them permanently
>There is a Seattle version of “Deb of the Night” called “Bet of Night”
>No skills like lock picking or hacking. Part of this is story (it makes no sense for Phyre to know how to hack) but part is also direction (more action oriented)
>There is “Persuasion/Intimidation/Seduction” but it’s not a skill, it’s based on dialogue options you choose combined by things like clan, what you’re wearing, your reputation, past interactions, etc
>Game starts off linear, then opens up and you do different missions for different clan leaders
>Initial impressions are overall positive, although there’s acknowledgment it’s very different from Bloodlines 1, feeling more like Dishonored or the Darkness

you know, paradox might be in luck that the development for this game was such a public shit show. I completely gave up any hope that it'd be a good vtm game years ago, so I'm honestly perfectly fine with it being a decent vampire flavored dishonored like game. once it's heavily discounted of course

please please PLEASE buy our slop we've sunk so much money and time into this the investors will be furious if it doesn't do at least okay on release

>>720026404 (OP)
A literal redditor wrote the Bet radio show by the way. Explains why it sucks so much compared to 1.

>>720026404 (OP)
They would have gotten much better reactions if they didn't call it Bloodlines 2, tho I do understand that the initial intention was to actually make a real sequel
>Being a sand nigger has story relevance
I was already not going to buy it, relax

>>720026404 (OP)
Let's be real for second. Nosferatu implementation in Bloodlines 1 was hot garbage. You'd have to make dedicated Nosferatu game to do the clan justice. Couple extra "oh no you had an accident?" dialog lines won't cut it.

I cant help but notice you shills stopped posting gameplay webms after that first day because everyone shat on it

>>720026404 (OP)
based shill making doomers seethe, keep it up anon

>>720027928
it sucks? have you played it?

>>720029213
They showcased a whole radio episode on a stream recently.

>>720029308
so no

>>720026404 (OP)
>dishonored yet AGAIN
and interest dropped to 0
look dishonored was an okay game (just OKAY it wasnt great) but fuck me i am tired of games aping it because theyre creatively bankrupt or too much of a bunch of fucking cowards to just make a good linear game

>>720026404 (OP)
>release in a month
shilling approved. go.

>>720029404
?
One episode is enough to judge something. Deb was amazing from the first second.

Everyone keeps bitching about no guns, but all I see from the gameplay videos is people using Phyre-arms.

>>720026404 (OP)
Why are shill posts so fucking obvious?
You would think they would at least attempt to imitate genuine posters. But it's always just blatant, in your face marketing. Should be a bannable offence, imo.

>>720029683
they face difficulties when there's just literally nothing positive to say about a product so they have to list negatives and try to word them as positives

>>720026404 (OP)
>what you’re wearing
but i don't want to play as posh /fa/ggot just to impress bitches

>>720028954
I'd post webms if these youtubers could aim straight.

>>720029525
Bet is a lot better than Deb, to be fair. But it's really a case of nostalgia.

>>720026404 (OP)
>Gangrel and Nosferatu got cut
watch as they add both later on as fucking DLC.

Also the reason why MC is named “Phyre” is because they just saw a random poster of a musician named “Phyre” after waking up called themselves that after Fabien asks. MC’s “real” name is unknown

Why it's so hard to make a sequel to the first game? Literally just copy the gameplay completely with a new story

>>720031175
well for one you're probably forced to use new world of darkness vampire lore and uh good luck with making that slop feel like it has any stakes the way the original setting did

>>720027850
This is an ad.

>Pajeet shill leveled up and is now using greentext
Why are you brown though.

>>720030170
This statement is all the proof needed for
>>720031476

>>720026404 (OP)
>6 clans
>1 character
Yeah, no.

Next assignment: learn to use different ChatGPT styles. No actual human would write "More work was put on mobility".

>>720026404 (OP)
>no stats
>no inventory
>no weapons
Sounds awful

>>720031615
No no, it's just trimming the fat, you see.
You've been spoiled. Also simultaneously nobody even liked VtMB1 for real.

>>720028954
Thanks for reminding me to post some awesomesauce.

>>720026404 (OP)
>you have to figure out how fabian got murdered
>is a voice in your head
Let me guess you the player diablerized him before the game. Wow. How incredibly deep and well written...

>>720031476
You’re an obsessed loser. How many times are you going to spam this shit. On the catalog, there is one other thread taking about this game that is just a bunch of shitty buzzwords (Reddit DEI slop) that literally advertises for an e-celeb has zero discussion about what’s in the game. Meanwhile, there are 20+ threads screeching about Silksong, and the one thread you obsess over “shilling” is about this. Take your meds

>>720031829
So do all vampires just have telekinesis by default? Since when?

>>720030997
That stuff is pretty obvious misdirection in my view. It's not an accident that Ysabella calls you "little flame" and the game's villain calls you "It bought you here, my Phyre. My fire." Most likely Phyre/Fire/Little Flame is some kind of "Would you kindly..." style trigger phrase.

>>720031935
No, MC is an Elder

>>720031956
I have never seen such a blatant and open shill before yet trying to deny it all the same. Holy shit.

>>720031175
>Literally just copy the gameplay completely with a new story
There's a few reasons. One, the gameplay is bad. Two, the gameplay is severely overscoped and Troika should never have been allowed to fuck up development they way they did. Three, they spent 4 years and something like a hundred million dollars on a shitty, broken, vaporware version that tried to imitate the first game.

>>720031956
Maybe. They also could’ve rewritten a bunch of shit, it would be very obvious if the villain somehow knew your made up identity before introducing yourself. Or they may have been using Fabien as a mole

>>720028089
i played Nosferatu for the first time 2 years ago and it was not so bad. you can easily avoid losing masquerade by simply running past npcs or just run on the street. Having to learn the Swear system this time was also fun.

>>720032003
It's funny because it doesn't even matter whether he's doing it for free.

>>720031881
I post it because guaranteed it gets you to start frothing at the mouth and reveal that I’m right and it’s you spamming these shitty shill threads. You have been doing this for months. You trying to deny it yet getting this fucking mad at being called out just goes to drive my point home further. I can’t wait for this shit to flop and you to have a full on mental breakdown given you wasted months forcing conversation and talking to yourself for nothing.

>I post to reveal I’m right blablabla
Didn’t read, have zero idea what you’re talking about and stopped caring, take your meds schizo I’m ignoring you now

>>720032089
I think I mostly see retards complaining about Nosferatu because you actually have to do a bit of sneaking (which was broken in pre-release Source, good luck not tripping on the props). But maybe he meant that it's too easy to not break the Masquerade? Which I would agree with.

>>720031476
at least half the threads on this godforsaken board at any given time are fucking ads these days
I'd like to say it wasn't always this bad but that only really means it used to be a down to about a quarter of the threads during the late 00's

>>I post to reveal I’m right blablabla
>Didn’t read, have zero idea what you’re talking about and stopped caring, take your meds schizo I’m ignoring you now

>>720029565
thread so bad nobody cared about your joke

how dare people discuss the sequel of one of the most popular videogames of all time on a videogames board

It's going to be so funny when this game flops and shills like OP melt down.

>>720032003
The best part is he’s in another thread doing this but also shitting on the VTMB at the same time here a post he made with the same fucking image, he even changed the file name in the most obvious way.
>>720009682

>>720032203
It a very simple issue. The site needs revenue and companies know that. So they pay Hiro to let their tards spam threads advertising and he tells the mods to look the other way. Some of them even join in.

The game has no DRM so you can just pirate the special edition.

vampires blow can we get a game about fallen angels n shit instead

>>720032262
Oh look the shill is starting his passive agressive hissy fit where he cries about people calling him out but is too much of a pussy to actually directly reply to anyone.

>>720031859
https://youtu.be/3hP7dCvHpKo?si=-QRpn2lTvZhxP558&t=2294
No, there's something more to it. I think the plot is inspired partially by the movie Motherless Brooklyn, which is why Fabien is a Bruce Willis lookalike. There is something wrong with the sequence of events as presented to you. There's clear gaps in the scene where you attack him. He did something that caused a big smear of blood on the floor. Notice the cut between opening the box and Fabien glancing behind himself. There are things wrong with Fabien's constant, "I remember..." statements. For example, he claims that he remembered waking up on a cold December morning, and answering the door to Officer Wheeler.

This is all well and fine except he's obviously ripping off The Raven by Edgar Allen Poe, a poem about a guy who goes mad because the woman he loves died and he starts ranting a bird demanding it tell him if there's an afterlife and shit. Also, he keeps insisting he's a detective, while also telling you near constantly that you shouldn't mention his existence to anyone. Now to be clear, the members of the Camarilla clearly know of Fabien. He has at some point pretended to be a detective and been indulged in this fantasy. But there's more to it. He has a position in the Camarilla that isn't clear. As Lou says in the truncated flashback. "What will you do for this court?"

My theory? He's a serial killer that kills people and blames it on the vampire hunters. He's the one leaving those crosses around. He disassociates by inventing this detective persona, possibly because he had to kill the cigarette girl in the 20s and couldn't handle it. I'm just spitballing here. It is way too suspicious that the mysterious cloaked hunter appears the same decade that Fabien is embraced. I think Fabien worked for Lou as her unofficial assassin, and the vampires he killed were attributed to hunters.

>>720032390
So, how much do you get paid per post, or was it per thread?

>>720032371
two words: devil maycry

>>720032203
The one other thread for this game is literally advertising for an e-celeb yet you don’t care about that. You care about the one thread actually trying to talk about what’s in the game and obsess over “shilling” for that, meanwhile the catalog is literally just a bunch of threads whining about Silksong
>/v/ - video games

>>720031859
who cares? gonna sell him out the first chance i get.

>>720032339
I think OP will get it for free, and no one else would care to
>>720032371
Was Constantine good? I'm a Max Payne fan yet never played it

>>720032203
I'll be honest, it's gotten so bad lately that the shill threads are legitimately the only places you can actually see SOME game discussion. Most non shill threads are usually just ragebait or /pol/ threads or bait that devolves into /pol/. I prefer the shills.

>>720032329
I wouldn't mind if it was just shills and faggot moderators shitting up the board because then its simple clean fun making fun of it all
but there's legions of reddit niggers here that legitimately eat this sort of shit up and muddy discourse and they're not even paid

>>720032430
Yep this. /v/ hates talking about video games but loves e-celebs. The ironing

>>720032472
The reddit cucks come with the jannies since they all are in the same circles. Not to mention the shills do double time on subreddits as well.

>>720032430
>>720032526
Stop talking to yourself, sissy faggot.

whens the hunter the reckoning game where im a paranoid nigger who shoots some other ppl and then encounters what i think is a vampire but its actually something completely different and horrifying and i get my shit pushed in

>>720032390
What a god awful game you have to shill.

>>720032578
>didn’t deny it
The ironing

>>720032390
Nice attempt to mislead me but I've already seen the ending where she jumps out and kills him lmao.

>>720032253
Sissy faggot can’t even reply directly , he just has to cry and cope.

>>720032690
Stop acting as if you're mentally ill. You might be more pathetic than gachaposters, and those have no brains.

Game-design wise, there's some elements that make me wary:
- the minor collect-a-thon aspects, which seem sort of aimless/meaningless. We'll see if/how they all tie to story and overall interactions, but for now, it feels like padding.
- XP per act (kill/seduction/finding stuff etc)....
- the apparent focus on presentation over gameplay (for a nitpick on that, that one scripted punch when you awaken makes for a fun scene... but then your normal punch never lives up to that in play)

The main street/backstreet and upper level/lower level double dichotomy has potential, from a level design stanpoint.Gameplay probably a bit too simple to accomodate it properly, but worth watching for another iteration.

The comparisons to Dishonored are skin deep and ultimatly going to do the game a disservice. TCR was, I think, wise enough to stay away from emergent gameplay and systemic complexity. They don't seem to have the studio talent for it, it takes time to build. Focusing on simple but robust was probably for the better. But people are going to come to the game unfullfilled if expecting Dishonored.

The thing that is going to define the game is conversation interaction complexity/granularity. Trouble for the studio is that it is something one only notices after several playthrough. See how it worked for Alpha Protocol.

>>720032690
So you are talking to yourself again. It every fucking thread with you. You get btfo and then you start talking to yourself to try and make it look like you have support. An army of one pathetic retard and his endless number of divergent personalities and people he pretends to be and talks to.

>>720032747
>calls someone else mentally ill while having a psychotic breakdown over a thread
The ironing

Also every time you reply with your psychosis you bump the thread you hate
>more ironing

>>720032796
No one talks like this.

>>720026404 (OP)
Without the early 2000s atmosphere, mentality and sensibilities it just doesn't work. We will never have that weird, bizarre time back

>>720032747
>Stop acting as if you're mentally ill
>acting

>>720032258
right?

>>720032816
Yeah, I'm already pretty certain you're not getting paid for this.
Enjoy shilling the inevitable flop, while entertaining the crowd in a sad clown attire.

>>720026404 (OP)
>6 clans (technically 7)
no, 6, because you´re not allowed technically to disable the gaybien parts.
>>Cannot customize face, but can change makeup, hair, clothing, piercings, and so on. This is because Phyre is Middle Eastern and that has story relevance
which makes the clan choice irrelevant, her coming from middle east is more important which clan does it belong to.
>>Phyre’s background and how NPCs react will change depending on dialogue options over time
empty marketing talk. it´s a flair you get depending on the npc you´re currently talk to. the content won´t change.
>>As Phyre you can unlock powers from other clans by harvesting their emotional resonances from feeding on them
which means, that the clan you pick, is only for flair in dialouge and your starting equipment/skills. other than that, you need to progress the story for certain skills/upgrades
>>Phyre has some powers, like telekinesis, unlocked by default because they are an Elder
these are the powers you will need to use to progress the story
>>More work was put on mobility, like climbing, gliding, and a “vampire run”
to make traversing the empty open world not as sloggy as it is.
>>No inventory, you can use weapons like guns and knives but you don’t carry them permanently
too much of a hassel implement a inventory system with check if the necessary items are obtained.
just scrap it and make a checkbox when essiant item has been aquired.
>>There is “Persuasion/Intimidation/Seduction” but it’s not a skill, it’s based on dialogue options you choose combined by things like clan, what you’re wearing, your reputation, past interactions, etc
The mass effect/nu fallout dialouge wheel is back! rejoice gaymers!
>>There is a Seattle version of “Deb of the Night” called “Bet of Night”
you remember Deb fellow gaymers? We got Deb at home!
the rest is, "please understand, we only make walking sims" babble.

>>720032876
He’s most likely an intern at paradox of the chink room that they have doing web campaign shit. All the time he’s been doing this has driven him deeper and deeper into desperation.

>>720032821
subhumans copy pasting marketing instruction sheets do

>>720032876
>finally acknowledged his own psychosis
I accept your concession.

Also, thanks for bumping the thread you hate again, retard

>>720032839
Now I want a VtMB with the COVID lockdown setting. I wonder if at least some VN did this already.
How is COVID not a Camarilla conspiracy?

BetDSI use promo code cum town

>>720032936
Every time you obsess over “shilling” that doesn’t actually exist you bump the thread. Ironically, you’re the greatest shill here, lmao

>>720032968
> bumping the thread you hate
The projection is palpable. Why would I hate a sad clown? Have all the bumps, this is still better tha

>>720033018
Keeping all the kine indoors? What good would that do.

>>720032968
No one here is crazy here except for you given you have to talk to yourself just to promote the shitty game.
>Also, thanks for bumping the thread you hate again, retard
It’s fun to watch you seethe since you can’t leave and have to just take whatever anyone says like a good little faggot.

Saars please do the needful and pre-order Vampire: The Masquerade 2 - Bloodlines™ it is a very good game, I assure you, looking very forward to it myself!

>>720033018
Everyone being locked up at home would be horrible for kindred though, almost all of them rely on intermingling, normally-functioning societies to leech off of

>>720033087
Masquerade protection, breeding kine in Australian "health" camps.
>>720033063
Oh fuck sniper in t

>>720033018
the only good thing about covid was that i was in nyc at the time and the entirety of manhattan was deserted except for hobo niggers chasing down the occasional commuter for their money underground. Shit was a wasteland. Walk down the middle of the road for an hour no cars

>>720033057
I’ve given proof that you’re shilling and all you ever do is just have a breakdown and cry “nu uh” while talking to yourself. So far you have done nothing but act exactly how I said you would and will only act like that since you have to be here and you’re mentally unstable from the constant abuse.

>>720033092
I don’t even read your posts now, I just think it’s funny how every time you whine about shilling, you bump the thread, and I reply, also bumping the thread, meaning you’re actually the greatest shill here.

>>720033145
Sounds more like a Second Inquisition ploy so they can perform all their covert raids more openly as all clubs close and whatnot.

>>720032692
>Nice attempt to mislead me but I've already seen the ending where she jumps out and kills him lmao.
There's missing memories. You can see them in the 30 second teaser trailer. He has his hand out over the coffin with blood dripping from his palm. And then Phyre lunges up and starts drinking from his arm. (So Fabien was intentionally waking Phyre up. This wasn't some innocent gosh shucks detective stumbling onto the coffin.) The flashback we see cuts from him opening the coffin to him several feet away from the coffin. The ground behind Fabien is absolutely slathered in blood. This is unexplained.

>>720031432
Is this game using New World of Darkness as a basis? I haven't been paying attention that closely.

>>720033163
See
>>720033170

>>720032796
>but then your normal punch never lives up to that in play)
I think you can hold the punch button for a stronger punch.
>- the minor collect-a-thon aspects, which seem sort of aimless/meaningless. We'll see if/how they all tie to story and overall interactions, but for now, it feels like padding.
The crosses are supposedly important but no idea what collecting them all does.

>>720033170
>I don’t even read your posts now
Spoken like someone that’s seething and has no actual rebuttal. I know it’s hard being a spic that’s forced to shill a shit game, but at least take this like a man and stop acting like a fag.

>>720033242
See >>720033254

>>720033254
See
>>720033242

>>720026404 (OP)
>the Darkness
Lmao what? It's been a while since I played it but wasn't it an ultra-linear fps? Did they seriously turn Bloodlines into a shooter with dialogue options? Looks grim, so far.

>>720028089
Just set it in the current year, Nosferatu don't look any weirder than some of the people I have to try to avoid noticing every day.

>>720033308
Spic can’t even type out a coherent reply anymore.

>>720033305
See
>>720033170

>>720033057
>shilling that doesn´t exist
keep on denying reality but we can smell you shill-kun.

>>720033404
See
>>720033385

i'm going to shove vtmb2 up my ass

>>720033193
Yeah but I've already seen the ending. Nice try. Let me guess you're a retarded dev who didn't think people who realize what a retarded story your game has right?

>>720026404 (OP)
eww why are you playing as a named character

>>720033385
You are reading them since you know they’re for you and you’re mad about them. Unless you’re the kind of retard that gets mad at just seeing he has replies. Also you mindbrokenly quoting the same reply is exactly what i expected from you. It’s like a child crying and repeating the same thing over and over.

>>720033340
a brawler, see >>720031829
the guns cannot even be stored into the inventory

>>720033362
See
>>720033170

Why haven't there been more leaks? The last set of leaks said that Damsel is in the game, Fabien is the bald guy, and Safia is an imposter. There was also someone claiming that Ysabella is a secret anarch. Who is The Gardener? That's the more important question.

>>720032821
Rarely, though I've known a couple. People do write like this though. Academia is a hell of a drug.
That said, you mind want to consider that this is what constructed (not necessrily good, mind you) thought looks like.

>>720032951
So your theory is that I'm a "shill" for posting mostly negative criticism about the game?

>>720033487
See
>>720033446

>>720033501
Mindbroken

>>720033305
>>720033308
>>720033385
>>720033446
>>720033501
Shill-Bot is broken, please restart.

>>720026404 (OP)
>Phyre has some powers, like telekinesis, unlocked by default because they are an Elder
>Phyre
>Middle Eastern
>they
is this a joke?

>>720033514
Literally no one cares.
Tell your superior you need a better assignment.

>>720033340
The Tremere powers wher you turn you blood into floating knives and fire them at people are absolutely The Darkness inspired.

>>720033534
Deplorable and conniving post.

>forced to play as an arab
Dropped so fucking hard

>>720033579
He’s got nothing else. He’s been taking abuse for months. The best he can do is shit his pants and throw a temper tantrum.

>>720033496
Holy shit - why not just make an action game set in the world of darkness universe? This will be a tremendous flop.

>>720033626
Dishonest post, you never picked it up in the first place

>>720033467
>Yeah but I've already seen the ending.
Oh, tell me more.

>>720033579
>ran out of pre written responses
>resorts to self quoting to keep "engagement" up
shills used to work a lot harder for their rupees
very sad

>>720033661
Wrong. I buy most vampire games because I have a fetish so I was giving Bloodlines 2 the benefit of the doubt. I didn't know your character's race was chosen for you though

>Prey 2017 style slop but with vampires
It's so over

>play as john vampire
>first quest is to steal a relic
>ghost in relics possesses you
>it threatens to take over your body
>need to find a way to drive out the evil spirit
wake the fuck up, nosferatu

>>720033246
>I think you can hold the punch button for a stronger punch.
You can, but I don't remember seeing even a strong punch on civilians sending them flying like that. That said, minor nitpick, as I said.
The issue is more that the game seems to care more about the story it wants to tell than the one the player wants to make. Obviously we'll see.

>>720033765
This game is also going to be an abyssmal failure.

>>720033534
>Academia is a hell of a drug.
Hah, I'm an academic and I write in exactly the same style. I would say something like:
>It's strange how some people struggle to wrap their head around the game's combat system given how comprehensively it has been explained, shown in gameplay footage, and how it is ultimately a refined version of what Hardsuit Labs was attempting. I have no idea where this fixation on wanting to play VTMB2 like a generic FPS is coming from because it was never a thing in any version of this game. It's like they can't wrap their heads around the game not being a generic FPS.

>>720033758
Yep it’s chosen for you.

However Bloodlines 1 was similar, you could only customize some of the clothing you wore and all of the characters had a predefined appearance

It's so sad the only good Vampire The Masquerade and Werewolf The Apocalypse games that have come out have been Choice of Games CYOA text games. At least those are good though.

I get mad watching youtubers play this game because they're all too fucking stupid to pick up the dropped guns. THE PISTOL IS RIGHT THERE ON THE FLOOR, PICK IT UP YOU STUPID FUCKS.

Why are two people in this thread with bachelor degrees at most say that they're academics.

>>720033765
I was already forgetting this game existed while I was watching its reveal footage

2 won't have Venus so what's the point?

>>720033892
I have a Bachelor’s degree too, I’m not either of the two people you’re referring to and I’m not an academic.

>>720031476
>>720032203
>>720032449
They got rid of IP counters when everyone started using them as evidence of actual engagement. When that 700 post thread had just shy of 50 IPs it told you everything you need to know about said thread. When that half hour 300 post thread had 160 IPs it showed you what the real engagement was. It got really bad in December 23 into January 24 so they got rid of it. Strangely the hack shutdown happen just after people found ways to look at IP engagement again and it got patched out. Traffic here is taking a hard dive since Twitter and Facebook are now open wide to nearly any sort of discourse without censorship, thus I would expect the idea now is to try and make this place look active with certain narratives

Remember: Propaganda isn't making you believe in something, it's about making you think everyone else is believing it.

>>720033892
I'm a doctoral candidate but fuck doctorates are hard.

>v rising
>code vein 2
>bloodlines 2
>dawnwalker
>blade's own game and in marvel rivals
shiieet

>>720033765
So my choices in new Vampire games are cancer or AIDs?

boy oh boy.

>>720034067
What are you doctoring in? And what makes it hard?

>>720034031
I remember when they took the IP counter out. It was right as the SBI shit was starting.

These threads are going to be so embarrassing in retrospect. This is an exceptional game. Paradox are so confident in its quality they have been allowing numerous youtubers to post raw footage and allowed them to speak openly, including allowing them to shit on Paradox's DLC policies. They know they have a banger on their hands. They've basically crafted the anti-Veilguard.

>>720034172
Shill-bot has been rebooted to default settings it seems.

>>720034124
A very specific machine learning topic involving a rare kind of data. Needless to say, it's one of those topics where there's a small number of researchers and none of the fuckers share their code or models because they don't want anyone else realizing how flamed their research is, so you spend so much time recreating their work and realizing how full of shit they were.

>>720034248
He took a smoke break

where are all the werewolf fantasy games?
do i really have to make them myself?

i'll make a prototype clone where you play as a lady who turns into a large hot wolf lady and destroys everything

>>720034031
it was really funny when you could jump on a shill thread as it was just starting and post that there was only a single IP in the thread despite there being 20 posts responding to each other
removing the IP counter is the most blatant show of endorsing the paid shilling that goes on all over this site they could have pulled

>>720034347
They made a werewolf game and it was shit. Great soundtrack though.

>>720034278
Nice, good luck with the research

>>720034248
he called his supervisor to do the needful

>>720026404 (OP)
With all due respect, why are you even still following this game?

>>720034404
Thanks, anon.

>>720034439
Put simply, it looks like one of the best Arkane-style games ever made. I watched the footage, and it looks basically flawless. I can't find a single thing to complain about. The sheer level of polish is almost Valve-like. It looks amazing, sounds amazing, and according to everyone I know who has played it, it feels unbelievable to play.

>>720033567
See
>>720033561

>>720034523
no game is flawless, you are untrustworthy

TO THE PARADOX EMPLOYEE(S) SHILLING THIS GAME, please remove women, faggots, and non-whites (in that order) from ALL positions of story/setting design. Thank you.

>>720034347
they did make one a little while ago but nobody remembers it for good reasons
I wouldn't hold your breath on getting a WoD werewolf game because they're stupid, overpowered, and gay beyond belief
the best you could hope for is awful whinging furfag wank about a vague notion of the environment which is what it was written as originally

>>720034576
"Basically" flawless.

Put the og Lou back in the back and unpaywall Lasombra and I will consider buying this game when it goes on sale

>>720034608
Aren't all the creative leads white guys? I know Alex Skidmore and Ian Thomas are both middle aged British white dudes.

>>720026404 (OP)
>Fabian is Malkavian, whenever you “sleep” you play as him in the past to regain his memories
>Fabian is a 1920s Malkavian detective and you explore his memories as him to figure out how he got murdered
Oh, so they're not even considering actual Malk implementation. I'm not enjoying anything I'm playing now so I was actually considering buying this for some reason. Thanks for the info, it made me reconsider.

>>720033579
See
>>720033561

>>720034743
Fabien's sequences were originally a standalone Malkavian DLC. There was never a scenario in which Phyre was a Malkavian.

>>720034031
>>720034356
It really fucked over the slower boards too because when you had all these threads claiming to be full of girls that 5 IP count out of 50+ told you what the game was. Right after they ditch the IPs their was a fucking explosion on many of the slower boards making "girl threads" where it was clear the goal was to either shill the dating apps advertising on 4chan and/or just the usual phising lonely guys out of their info/money. Luckily most didn't take the bait so now they are much more rarer and only come in waves but it's still fucking crazy they ditched IP counters and tried to tell us it was a good thing.

>>720034743
this is at least partially a shitty requiem game so the clans barely matter anyway

>>720032390
I like that theory, by the way.

>>720034374
Trouble with WtA is that it's a hard sell for people that just want the common werewolf fantasy. Edgy metal Captain Planet with a pop culture shamanic bend isn't exactly what people expect in a vacuum.

>>720034278
>none of the fuckers share their code or models because they don't want anyone else realizing how flamed their research is
That's the one thing I don't miss. Spending days working on something only to realize the paper you thought was opening a breach for your own work is actually cooked happens way too often.
And yeah, good luck anon.

>>720034743
>>720034861
Clans matter about as much as they did in 1, which is to say "eh..."

>>720034695
I mean ALL positions where someone writes/draws ANYTHING to do with characters, dialogue, environment, or lore. EVERY TIME a women, faggot, or non-white touches ANY creative outlet, it becomes whiny garbage designed to soapbox pet issues

>>720034523
>this game that has been stuck in dev hell actually looks perfect and free of all the issues that every dev hell game has always had!!!!
Yeah I believe you buddy.

>>720034979
The two most significant clans in Bloodlines 1 were probably Malkavian and Nosferatu. Malkavian for obvious reasons and Nosferatu more for how it forced you to play

Aside from that though I think the only other major perks besides dialogue were with Tremere and Ventrue, which both gave you new player homes

>>720033627
See
>>720033501

>>720034439
NTA, but: I'm not in it for the Bloodlines part, I'm in it for the VtM part. Bought Redemption day one (hated it), bought Bloodlines day one (glorious broken mess), same for Swansong (typical Cyanide, heart, I'll leave it at that) and I'll get Bloodlines 2 day one.
Got the interactive fiction too.
As a perma DM, that's my only way of being a player.

B2 so far looks like a game I will be able to enjoy if taken on its own terms, with potential of actually being good *if* the conversation system live up to what TCR promised. Unlikely, but we'll see.
In the meantime, I'll wait for the game.

VTMB2 looks really good, and people wanting it to be bad or fail are being daft.
https://youtu.be/3hP7dCvHpKo?si=zcmFYiDy8Zv2-s42
https://youtu.be/UKvWJc5v4Ts?si=uP3aMGe4NyxTGnSF
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYMJYOXECwo
It looks great. It's that simple. I have yet to see a convincing argument for this being anything other than one of the best games of the year.

>>720035048
There's literally hours of footage online. Every person who played it in August noted how slick and polished it felt. The previous version was a mess. It was cancelled, and its assets were given to a new company who made a different game with them. It has had a fairly straightforward 4 year development cycle.

>>720035362
>has tried very hard. multiple times to “falseflag” as a shill
>likely because you’re the same mentally ill schizo from earlier
>and now once again you’ve ironically bumped the thread

>>720033694
See
>>720033561

>>720034439
Because even if it isn’t a perfect sequel to Bloodlines it’s still VtM and I haven’t had a chance to play more games like it. If it’s at least decent I’ll check it out

I haven't been following these threads because they're full of shit but I gotta ask. You play as either Phyre or Fabian and you cannot make your own character? Did they seriously remove skills? If those two are true I'll forget this game exists even before release as I was under the impression it'd be an RPG

>>720035809
>skills
Sorry did you actually want to build a character?

>>720035809
Yes you play as Phyre or Fabien, Phyre is a name MC made up after looking at a random poster

And yes they removed skills. There’s no lock picking or hacking. There’s still some kind of persuasion or intimidation system that has to do with dialogue choices, clothing, reputation, etc but it isn’t a skill anymore. You can also still use certain disciplines in dialogue. But no more skills

>>720035904
Yes? If it's an action adventure where I'm playing some dyke non-binary self insert of some developer then I don't care.

>>720035809
>Did they seriously remove skills?
You have le talent tree and that's it. You suck people to get resonances to put points into the tree and unlock abilities.

>>720035987
The MC literally isn’t non-binary though? Like you literally select if MC is male or female in the beginning

Why are you so asspained about this game anyways? You obviously don’t know anything about it. Lol

>>720034439
I'm just gonna play it so I can complete the holy trifecta of dead games whose sequels came out despite all doubts and still sucked, joining STALKER 2 and World of Goo 2. I'll be very impressed if it turns out good, though.
>>720033892
I'm neither of the two and I've received an increased scholarship for my academic efforts though I write like complete shit in my articles, sentence-takes-half-a-page-tier shit. However, I actually use this style when talking to a prof who taught me because it's just the optimal way of talking to someone who isn't your "Dear Anon, I've come to inform you" mentor but isn't your "haha check this shit" close friend either. Concise and short points so they don't get bored, proper spacing to segregate your topics, maybe throw in a couple of emojis too so that the tone isn't too grave because Internet. Had to figure it out myself, but it's just a good way of talking.

>>720034347
>>720034614
literally all you have for good werewolf TTRPG games is Book of Hungry names and that's text only.

>>720026404 (OP)
>Middle Eastern
If I didn't already have 100 reasons not to play it, this would do it alone.

What’s with all the academics and people with degrees in this thread anyways

>>720036089
Nobody knows anything about it until it's out and no I will not trust faggots on the internet about anything. Hopes of it being good are slim.

>>720036112
world of goo 2 was funny because the entire game was literally just the first game copy and pasted with a chapter literally just about how they were forced to make a sequel and hate the game with some retarded hour long point and click thing

>>720036245
There’s gameplay footage out already and yes one of the first things you do is select if Phyre is male or female

>>720036348
So it's a preset character like in mass effect?

>>720036470
Skidmore said that Shepard in Mass Effect was a reference point, yes.

>>720026404 (OP)
Yo marketer, are skills like Potency and Fortitude passive or do they just let you unlock passive skills like in V5 or is it like the old game where they just made up some stuff for them.

>>720036470
Aside from clans, yeah. Although in Mass Effect you determine some of Shephard’s background in the very beginning while in this game details about your background are gradually built up based on your dialogue options. Like you can tell people you were a pirate captain in the past and the game and the NPCs take that into account

>>720032371
>vampires blow
They actually suck xD

I actually prefer a defined character you dress up over a blank slate. I never got the appeal of that. Videogames can't replicate the roleplay freedom you get in something like tabletop games.

>>720036208
If you're in
> humanities
, especially
> language studies
, you're gonna encounter a serious RPG bias that goes deeper the older you get/the more professional you become. I'm fresh off my master's, going for the local PhD equivalent next year and half of the group I was in was just a bunch of RPG freaks. One's playing Persona and Xenogears, the other is a fan of Pillars of Eternity, Pathfinder and Tyranny, the third completed BG3 like 3 times in a row and my prof is a fan of Planescape: Torment. All of them own Dragon Age books for some reason too. I feel like I'm the last person who hasn't played Morrigan's game. One also was a fan of Pathologic, but dropped out, unfortunately. Naturally, I have to represent Troika Games in the equilibrium. Also all the freshmen are fans of Disco Elysium and do their works and conference entries on it, whether it's stylistics or literary studies.
Before you ask, you can get a job easily even with such a degree: one is a school teacher, for example, the other is a university teacher, the third works for the government, the fourth does business communications for the local ammunition factory. I translate furniture catalogs. It's a living.

>>720036898
There are pros and cons to both approach. Not a fan of how they've written Phyre in the same gender neutral style as Dead Island 2, though. Not anywhere near a deal breaker, but I find it a little irritating because men and women are treated differently in social interactions, and acting like there's no difference is lazy and retarded.

>>720036898
It depends on how it’s done.

If the game gives you a lot of freedom for building your character or has a very open-ended or less conventional story (ie something like the first Fallout game, or Dwarf Fortress) then a blank slate makes more sense, since there isn’t really a “predetermined” character to begin with, it’s more you creating a character to interact with this world

But if it’s a game with a more conventional storyline, which necessitates a main character with a predetermined role to begin with, that happens to be have some “open” elements for exploration (Witcher, GTA, Deus Ex, Mass Effect) then having a predetermined character makes more sense. It wouldn’t make any sense to play as a hobo in Mass Effect, for example, or someone who can’t hunt monsters in the Witcher. But a game like Fallout or Arcanum is designed specifically so you, yourself determine what role you are and the story is meant to be open ended enough to accommodate that

vampire the butt pooplines poo

>>720036970
Currently doing a PhD in history and this is quite true. Many of my peers are quite interested in the older RPGs.

>>720036970
>I translate furniture catalogs. It's a living.
I hope you don't get replaced by fucking awful AI translations anytime soon.

>>720030170
>>720029213
I have no idea if this is shitposting or Paradox sending in shills. It's retarded either way, though. And it's happening pretty consistently in Bloodline threads.

>>720035809
new to modern vidya?

>>720037227
This but with Lou's big butt

>>720037176
Generally I would agree, but in the case of elder vampires talking to one another, in the context of that setting? I think it makes sense, and I'm at the very least willing to let it slide. though I liked Bloodlines 1 having a few conversations/quests options tailored to PC gender.

>>720037295
I was listening to Deb's radio show, and it's good, but I can't hear any substantial difference in voice acting or writing quality between the new show and the old show. I personally think there is quite a bit of people clutching at straws. There's so much nostalgia around VTMB1, as good as it is, that people are always going to claim that aspects of it are better than the new game because... well, they just are, okay!

>>720037205
In that regard Bloodlines 2 seems to fit more in the latter, where the story necessitates some kind of predetermined role to begin with (you are an Elder, so you can’t be a true “blank slate” since there are connotations and expectations tied to that role). But again it will depend on how it’s executed. This game seems to flirt with a “quantum backstory” element where the player determines what is or isn’t canonical to Phyre based on dialogue, similar to how in KOTOR 2 you determined whether or not Revan is male or female based on a conversation you have with Atton. If the “Elder” role brings something to the table that is different or unique from the fledgling status in Bloodlines 1 it could work. For example, an Elder would have a long history of experiences that could both help and hurt, they may be able to take advantage of their status to secure power, and so on. But if functionally you are basically the same as the fledgling in 1 (where you’re an errand boy who gets led around the nose by everyone else until perhaps the very end) then the question becomes - why be an Elder at all?

>>720037640
Fabien exists to provide the errand boy stuff. The other vampires are all sucking up to Phyre because they want things. You're the sheriff once you depose Benny.

>>720037176
Another thing that bothers me is that I've seen a bunch of people complaining about the facial animation and lipsync in VTMB2. Yet I'm looking at the first game, and the first game has the EXACT same style of jerky head movement, and the animation overall seems way better than the new game. The people claiming that 1 had better animation are either high or completely delusional or lying through their teeth.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZo0V53Rf70

>>720037890
>and the animation overall seems way better than the new game.
yeah i agree

>>720037640
One thing I thought was interesting is designers mentioning that your early choices defning character history can then later be made to have been lies, if you so will, with the reputation having no link to truth.
That has potential.

>>720037890
There were people complaining about the animation and voice acting in Silent Hill 2 remake right up until the game came out. People complained about every single aspect of it.

Wishlisted. Looking forward to a comfy playthrough in a few years at $20.

>>720037176
I’d say yes that normally is true, but it gets weird with vampires. Generally the differences in social interactions and expectations when it comes to interactions of men versus women boils down to influences from broad, general biological differences. Namely, men are generally physically stronger than women so that lends itself to different social dynamics (it would be strange, for example, for a woman to walk alone at night in an urban area, and not that abnormal for a man to do it, there would be certain expectations for men to show more restraint around women, men may generally be treated as more threatening, the idea that a guy could overpower a woman may color her interactions with a guy, and so on)

However these conventional dynamics are tossed out the window with vampires, mainly, when vampires interact with each other because it isn’t biological differences coloring the interactions anymore (vampires are physically stronger than others more due to generation or clan, not because they are male or female). They may exploit the conventions of above to fit in with humans (a female vampire may pretend to be more vulnerable, to lure a male target in a private area to feed off him) but the dynamics are fundamentally different

>>720026404 (OP)
I'm already not buying it. You don't need to keep listing reasons why it's shit.

One thing about the Fabien segments, I do hope what you do in those has some influence on the present. Otheriwse, they're going to be the bane of replays.

>>720026404 (OP)
>feeling more like Dishonored
oh so half the powers cause a bad ending?

>>720029683
>You would think they would at least attempt to imitate genuine posters
people do what they are paid to do and deviating at all is a great way to lose a job

>>720038685
There are going to be limitation, logically, but I'm sure they'll have some impact.

>>720031881
>20+ threads screeching about Silksong
oh you're a "people discuss the brand new, actually released game so my shill thread for a development hell investor-em-up is fine, too" shill.
post discarded

>>720038685
2 dialogue lines changed max
>'this is like the time that theatre burned down' / 'there's the rebuilt theatre that is borderline identical'
>'this is like the time the theatre almost burnt down' / 'look, there's the old theatre there'

Reminder that we saw essentially ZERO RPG mechanics that actually worked in the Hardsuit Labs version. We never saw a single example of the game actually responding to a choice you made or the game changing in response to stats you had. I can't believe the degree to which they were overselling and underpromising.

>>720038304
for good reason

>>720039192
you must understand our pajeet damage controller needs to work overtime in order to help paradox recoup the massive development costs of this trainwreck
the 50 dlc packs for all their other games just isn't going to cut it

>>720026404 (OP)
>There is a Seattle version of “Deb of the Night” called “Bet of Night”

>>720039426
and it sucks

>>720038685
>>720038843
lol, lmao even.

He's STILL posting.

>>720039782
he needs those rupees

Does the shill even realize that every thread he makes make people more annoyed and less likely to even pirate this shit?

>>720032390
he has the cross-dagger thing lying next to his dead body when you find him

>>720026404 (OP)
Who is "they"
Why is a single person being referred to as "they" ?

>>720040450
Phyre can be either male or female, there’s no canon gender. It’s easier to write “they” than “his/her”

>>720039565
You disagree? For example, consider that Dale is... missing in the present day. They can have Fabien decide his fate, in theory.

>>720026404 (OP)
why are niggas doomposting this game so much when it actually looks gemmy? white male protag option, tons of hot vampire bitches, gameplay looks fun and janky instead of movieslop, has a lot of dialogue options, graphics look pretty solid. Is this another tortanic astroturfing moment?

>>720040629
Because it's been six years, and they've lost track of what they were mad about originally. It's been one goalpost shift after another.

>>720040629
You fucked up my game

>>720040574
Writing "they" makes normal people think that you're referring to a group of people.
Which in turn makes you look retarded.

>>720040450
its a troon game

Just say "she" like a normal person.

>>720040837
I swear anybody who says this shit is fake outrage baiting. If you've ever used the English language in your life you'd know it's perfectly fine to refer to somebody whose gender you don't know as "they"

>>720040213
Yea, but he was carrying that back in the 1920s. He found it on the body of the murdered cigarette girl. Pandora also had one on her. Whoever sent Pandora knew about the cigarette girl, hence the "Would you kill... for a cigarette?"

>>720040837
>Medieval literature (14th century): The Oxford English Dictionary documented the singular "they" (including "their") around 1375 in the romance William and the Werewolf. The text uses "they" to refer back to a singular "each man," demonstrating the early use of the pronoun in a neutral context.
>The Oxford English Dictionary cites this example, and the phrase is translated as, "Each man hurried . . . till they drew near . . . where William and his darling were lying together".
https://www.oed.com/discover/a-brief-history-of-singular-they/?tl=true

>>720040574
So what.
How does this justify "they" ? its either the person or the character still. Get your tranny new speak out of here.

>>720040968
Okay troon but it looks and sounds retarded and makes it look like you're talking about a group no matter what you think is "correct English".

>>720041137
And these days "they" is only used for groups and for trannies.
So which one are you? Multiple personality schizo or a troon?

>>720026404 (OP)
>rpg
>you spend half the game playing as some preset character in a detective noir

this is why design by committee sucks
half the people on this team are busy making some completely different game from what they were assigned

>>720026404 (OP)
Wait this is a shill post?
I thought this was talking shit about the game, this can't be a shill post it doesn't say anything that would make people want to play the game.

>>720041165
So? “They” has been used as a gender neutral term for an ambiguous/unknown gender, for individuals, as far back as 1375
>>720041137

>>720040629
>gemmy
kys

>>720040837
>>720040968
To be fair to all involved, back in the Jan 2024 warehouse footage, Willem said, "She's still under." The current version of the game never has characters refer to Phyre as male or female. Even enemies don't say "Get her!" or "Get him!". It's a subtle thing, and it's to be honest not that dissimilar from the first game (I don't think they even bothered making enemies refer to you properly there and just reused the male lines for everything), but it does give the game a little bit of a whiff of "this is made by people who use the term 'female presenting' unironically." The reality is that 99.9% of players are going to say "Female Phyre". Nobody is going to say "Fem Phyre" and "Masc" Phyre. That shit is universally seen as retarded. And Paradox know it. I highly doubt they will allow official interviews to use that kind of language. There is a renewed awareness that this sort of language paints a target on your back.

>>720041170
>it looks and sounds retarded and makes it look like you're talking about a group no matter what
Yeah maybe if you're a fucking 80IQ ESL retard from the third world, but if you're a native speaker you're used to using "they" in a way that doesn't refer to a group of people ever since you were a child.

>>720041310
They were working on a Malkavian story DLC from fairly early on, and decided to make it part of the main story, which required them to push release back a year.

>>720041307
>Former Chief Editor of the OED Robert Burchfield, in The New Fowler’s Dictionary of Modern English Usage (1996), dismisses objections to singular they as unsupported by the historical record. Burchfield observes that the construction is ‘passing unnoticed’ by speakers of standard English as well as by copy editors, and he concludes that this trend is ‘irreversible’. People who want to be inclusive, or respectful of other people’s preferences, use singular they. And people who don’t want to be inclusive, or who don’t respect other people’s pronoun choices, use singular they as well. Even people who object to singular they as a grammatical error use it themselves when they’re not looking, a sure sign that anyone who objects to singular they is, if not a fool or an idiot, at least hopelessly out of date.

>>720041350
And in the exact same way, there were times that gays were sent to insane asylums for being faggots. Even though we stopped doing that just like we stopped using "they" to refer to one person, I think having once been the norm justifies putting gays back into asylums where they belong now.

>>720041453
>if you're a native speaker you're completely indoctrinated by troonspeak
I fucking laugh at you for only knowing English and being completely at the whim of leftists telling you what words mean when they change them to suit their agenda. You are so far below me that you barely register as an animal. If all you speak is English, you need to shut the fuck up because you can't lecture or talk down to everyone when you're already the lowest creature in all of creation.

>>720041350
Thing is, nobody sane would ever question which of these is a man and which is a woman.

>>720041117
oh yeah true

>>720041593
We haven’t stopped doing it though
>>720041557
There’s also no grammatical justification to not allow “they” as a singular antecedent. “You” is the same thing, it was supposed to refer to a group with “thou” being singular but “thou” is gone now

>>720041557
At least the bot stopped talking about the dogshit game. I guess protecting trannies at all costs takes priority in the programming.

>>720041835
both look androgynous and have the "my facial bone structure was stung by bees" problem with poojeet games

>>720041810
>he actually admitted to being ESL
Everybody point and laugh, he's probably from Venezuela or some shit LMAO

>>720041835
Why did Dale buy so many clothes

>>720041835
Nice that women get two faces to choose from in 2025, but when are they showing the male character?

>>720041923
Norway.
A country better than yours in every single way.
I'd tell you to feel free to cry, but you already are.

>>720042039
They showed the male character already, multiple times
>>720026404 (OP)

>>720041810
Yup, ESL. Never tell me how to speak my language ever again, you troglodyte.

>>720041942
Having seen that haven, I don't think he "bought" much of anything.

>>720026404 (OP)
Wait so can you play a male or not? I saw a lot of stuff about there being on option fir Phyte to be "transmasc" or whatever but watching a video it mostly just seems like a straight up dude.

>>720042128
oh good another faggot vampire game

>>720041810
well at least we know you're probably not indian

>>720042175
Uhhh yeah one of the first options in the game is picking if Phyre is male I or female

>>720026404 (OP)
>Part of this is story (it makes no sense for Phyre to know how to hack)
This makes no sense if you know how hacking actually works in VTMB

>>720042175
Didn't you get the memo? If you do not look like a roïded to death double Y chromosome dickwad phsycho, you don't look like a man.

>>720042238
Yeah I know but I saw mountains of stuff saying it's a female or a trans male, was that how the game portrays it or is that all just shitposting?

>>720042175
Literally the first screen in the game.

>>720042298
Phyre is an Elder who went into torpor in the 1920s. They don’t know what a computer is. One of the first conversations you have with Fabien is him trying to explain what a cellphone is and Phyre doesn’t get it

>>720042131
Your language is retarded. English is a mark of room-temp IQ. Humans are multilingual, animals like you only speak "they/them" troon gibberish. Enjoy your HRT, subhuman.

>>720042340
looks like a sterotypical gay boyband member mixed with a korean popstar

white people definitely aren't the target audience

Is there a character creator in VTMB 2?

Can you be male? (I refuse to play as a female in games, ever)

Can you make ghouls or embrace human companions like Heather Poe in VTMB1 and have her dress in slutty clothes while she calls you master in a weird BDSM dom-sub dynamic?

These are the only things I care about. They are what I liked about the first game.

>>720042440
Wow that must have been a committed shitposting campaign because I don't think I've seem any discussion about Gender without someone bringing it up.

How's the Voice Acting for the dude compared to the chick?

>>720030997
someone should be Phyred for that decision

>>720042482
>they
Literal babies can use tablets, but your troonpyre badass Elder can't figure it out from context?

>>720026404 (OP)
>Cannot customize face, but can change makeup, hair, clothing, piercings, and so on. This is because Phyre is Middle Eastern and that has story relevance
so middle easterners are only allowed to be certain skin tones with a specific look now?

>>720042342
The only real indication is people from Paradox using language like "Masc" or "Feminine". Typical dumb shit that everyone ignores. The game itself doesn't have anything unusual beyond the insistence on calling your character by gender neutral pronouns. (There's no pronoun selection or anything like that.)

>>720042482
I retract my statement that actually makes sense. I was going to follow up that almost al hacking is just finding clues in the environment but if this character can’t even navigate windows explorer then it’s a different story altogether

>>720042650
Yeah lmao the developers are exposing their racism with this. I've seen middle easterners with red hair and green eyes.

I think as a general game this looks fine. But as a sequel to the 1st game it fails. Kinda somewhat like how I think Deus Ex HR was a good game but it didnt really feel like the og Deus Ex and just felt like its own thing.

>>720042652
Come to think of it didn't the first game kind of do the same thing, outside of dialogue that was specifically related to the players Gender?

Mostly because pronouns don't really come up in one on one dialogue.

>>720042568
>How's the Voice Acting for the dude compared to the chick?
He's fine. I think both actors are solid enough, but I do personally prefer the female one.
https://youtu.be/B5BDK0w_muU?si=vi1gRNjTv5io_CNQ&t=1222
I can't really fault any of the casting or acting.

>>720042440
Wow, what a HOT hababibi

>>720042905
“Fledgling” isn’t really a gendered term in English.

So will the 2 clans be free now instead of dlc?

Will this be worth a pirate or nah?
I'm thinking it will be SO FUCKING BAD that it will retroactively taint Bloodlines as an experience just by existing.

>>720042941
Every time male Phyre opens his mouth, this image pops into my head.

>>720042785
You can change Phyre’s hair and eye color though?

>>720043061
Idiot, the entire game is free.

>>720043072
That's impossible as bloodlines was a self-contained story. It can only retroactively ruin something if it is a story continuation.

Mass Effect 3 ruined Mass Effect 1 and 2 because it is a direct continuation of a story that ended on cliffhangers.

>>720043072
I don't think it's possible to taint Bloodlines, Paradox has already released a lot of VTM slop games in the last few years that were either meh or actively bad.

>>720043154
no denuvo?

>>720043139
MURICIO
MURICIO HELP ME
I CANNOT AHH
I CANNOT MOVE IT MOVE IT ANY MORE

>>720043140
Facial features are also different

>>720043061
Probably but nothing confirmed yet. TCR said they'll give details on the 17th. It was moronic to lock a core clan behind thirty extra dollars

>>720043227
I liked the interactive novel

>>720043072
It can't ruin something nobody played.

>>720043072
Someone said the game has Denuvo but I've checked and it doesn't. I'm gonna bet on a Watch Dogs 2 situation where a game that doesn't look like anything good is suddenly pretty enjoyable, but I don't have very high hopes. It's free anyway, I guess.

>>720043227
Yeah but nobody cares about VN slop and those that have played them know how disgusting that shit is about forcing trannies, homos and American politicial correctness down your throat with every line you read. It sure as fuck ruined the vampire setting for me as a whole, knowing what it is and represents now.

>>720043176
>Mass Effect 3 ruined Mass Effect 1 and 2
But Mass Effect 2 ruined Mass Effect 1?

>>720043404
Hard disagree. As a big fan of ME1 that preordered ME2 it blew away all of my expectations. ME3 however crushed them.

>>720043364
>nobody played Bloodlines
>that's why we we're so insanely adamant about calling this clusterfuck "Bloodlines 2" and including as many memberberries we possibly can for all the people who didn't play Bloodlines
I need some of whatever retard juice you're sipping so I can become the target audience for this shit.

>>720043139
Yeah the accents will take a bit to get used to, but I like both VA tone of voice which is good. Nothing worse than hating voiced protags voice.

>>720043538
Are there a lot of memberberries besides the stupid fucking Bet of night?

>>720043538
>self-report
uh oh

>>720043760
"Why did you open the box, Fabien?"

>>720043760
The entire original preorder pack was nothing but shit like Damsel's beret, the ICONIC funny stop sign and Smiling Jack's vest. It doesn't matter if thru cancelled that along with the Mitsoda commentary that they sold, that was always the way the game was pushed and sold. One giant nostalgia trip banking 100% on the VTMB community to buy it. And fact remains they won't change the name even though it would make every dumb shitty decision much less egregious as it would no longer be trying to ape Bloodlines or trying up step into shoes it cannot and never will be able to fill.

I hope Ventrue get a feeling of Specialized Dominate in Dialogue. It annoyed me at first in the old game when playing Tremere but playing again, given it's Ventrue's only "Active" skill I like it being something they in particular specialize in.

>>720043760
Honestly, I think the new dev have tried to keep things a lot more subtle than the old dev.

>>720043495
>As a big fan of ME1 that preordered ME2 it blew away all of my expectations
I'm so fucking sorry for your horribly taste, that you'd idolize the game that soft rebooted the franchise and killed everything ME1 built up and threw it out the fucking window in exchange for a filler arc and the chasing of the Gears of War audience, while building up no narrative connective tissue of its own.

>>720043394
>Yeah but nobody cares about VN slop
>It sure as fuck ruined the vampire setting for me
This is the definition of rent free

>>720044519
Too long, didn't read, lol

>>720044424
It doesn't matter, you're the chosen elder who can use every single power from every single clan. Even having a clan choice is ridiculous because it doesn't matter in the story.

>>720026404 (OP)
>we love VTM and you can see that in our game!
>no you can't customize Fabian's clan since him being a malk is relevant to the predetermined story
>no you can't edit your character too much because her being middle eastern is relevant to the predetermined story
>can't hack or lockpick because despite phyre being an elder vampire she's never heard of these new fangled electronic devices or locks because it's not relevant to the predetermined story
>no persuasion, intimidation, or seduction skills because they aren't relevant to the predetermined story
>game starts off locked into the predetermined story but then you can do some quests like helping a vampire find their lost kitten before returning to the predetermined story
this game sounds like it's going to be as much an RPG as the official call of cthulhu game that I'm sure everyone here also played.

>>720044763
Your Clan skills ate cheaper but you unlock other clan abilities by drinking their blood or being taught. Which is how it works in the table top so I don't really get the issue.

Dialogue is specifically where most Clan differences show up.

>>720044424
It is confirmed that certain disciplines can be used in dialogue so I’d be surprised if that wasn’t the case

>>720026404 (OP)
SHILLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

>>720044634
>not only has bad taste in games but his brain is also fried by ADHD tendencies
Figures. I'll accept the concession.

>>720044764
>>no persuasion, intimidation, or seduction skills because they aren't relevant to the predetermined story
What's the point of those skills? If I want to seduce Safia, I'll say seductive things to her. I'm 400 years old. How many stats do I have to put into intimidate?

>>720044763
You can get the other powers but from the sounds of things to get everything you have to basically grind a shitton for the resonances, you also have to get the approval from certain clan leaders to teach you some of the disciplines

>>720044764
Hacking and Lockpicking were two arbitrary skills picked out of a dozen that were cut from the first game just because the developers had ideas of how to tie them into the game while they couldn't do so with others. They also largely amounted to an annoying skill tax for accessing random stuff.

I won't really miss them.

>>720044764
You can still do things like persuade or intimidate in dialogue it just isn’t tied to a skill. It’s more based on the dialogue options you pick, your past interactions with that character, your clan, what you’re wearing etc

Aside from that Bloodlines 1 did not allow you to customize your appearance either aside from clothing. Depending on your definition of “predetermined story” you also basically always have to do what LaCroix orders, the difference is if you do it with a smile or a frown

>>720045112
>I'm 400 years old of course I can intimidate at command!
>I'm 400 years old of course I can't understand computers and have never needed to pick a lock!
hmmmmmmm

>>720045086
You should value your time more instead of getting mad about 15 year old games.

>>720045375
You literally just wake up from torpor and the game starts, Phyre is from the 1920s they don’t even know what a cellphone is let alone a computer

Phyre has never seen a gun before either thats why xer uses telekinesis on them

>>720045375
That sounds like a pretty reasonable character limitation, yeah.

>>720044982
>Which is how it works in the table top
No one.
Fucking.
Cares.
About the tabletop.
You dumb fucking nigger.

It does not translate well to a video game and your CONSTANT insistence that it's great because they do it in the tabletop just shows two things: You're the most moronic Chink Room shill imaginable since you genuinely think there's ANY overlap between VTMB and tabletop players (there isn't and never has been, which of course you as a marketer don't understand), and secondly that the tabletop is dogshit for retarded troons.

>>720045484
You have made this exact post nearly a hundred times.

>>720045650
Hes not gonna stop until you buy the game!!

>>720045342
>hey bro, how's it going?
>*TAUNT SKILL SUCCESSFUL*
>did you just fucking assume my gender you piece of shit chud?!?! HAVE AT YOU!
you really and truly have faith in these devs to make intimidation, persuasion, etc satisfying dialogue options?

>>720045650
>hundreds of times
No? Objectively speaking I posted this twice, not “hundreds of times”, maybe if you didn’t post the same shit over and over like a boy I wouldn’t have to repeat myself once

>>720045563
That doesnt make sense at all. Handguns have been present in Europe since the 13th century at least. The Middle East used it even more in the coming years.

>>720044982
>>720044992
>>720045141
>>720045290
>>720045342
>>720045484
>>720045565
Break time over, huh shill-kun? Do you get to stop at a set time or do you get paid per post so it's in your best interest to keep going all night?

>>720045758
Thats what the shill said. Phyre is the smartest vampire.

>>720045751
>like a boy
What did paradox mean by this extremely odd and nonsensical choice of words?

>>720045563
I actually like the idea of guns being an area pick up, used, and quickly disposed of, because I like area based brawler/stealth combat, but I do find the Telekinesis kind of an awkward catch all for "grabbing" animation.

Thematically it works for Tremere but a Brujah doing it feels a little off, even though I there are sone Potence skills that let you push stuff without actually touching them. So I suppose it's not the end of the world but I would find it funnier to see Phyre actually physically throwing guns at people.

>>720045713
I don’t know for sure because obviously the game isn’t out. What else do you want me to say?

The part about Bloodlines 1 not allowing you to customize your character and basically giving them a predefined look is objectively true though, as well you basically being forced to work for LaCroix but you probably skipped over all that because you didn’t play the first game

> post the same shit over and over like a boy
What did she mean by this?

>>720045914
So you concede then that you were wrong, I posted that twice. I accept your concession. I can’t help repeating myself one time, if you keep repeating the same posts over and over like a bot.

>>720045576
Holy shit kid take your medicine.

>>720046227
Not an argument, girl.

>>720046096
>I can’t help repeating myself
Of course you can't, that's literally what paid shilling is.
Moron.

>>720046269
Neither was yours? You just had a meltdown. Even the first game technically had it, it was just limited to Gangrel getting Celerity.

>>720028008
Being a Sandy shouldn't be, wouldn't they not worship Muhammad? They've been alive and shit longer than his religion has, so being a Muzzie with a wrap and praying shouldn't exist....right?

>>720028008
Were you this upset that you had to be black if you wanted to play a Brujah?

>>720046494
There are 100% autists on this board who probably won't play Brujah for that exact reason.

>>720046482
Vampires are not immune to indoctrination and are just as retarded as any shitskin muzzie.

>>720046298
No, it’s because stupid people need to be told the same thing twice. Stupid people also can’t count, btw

>>720046482
Look up the Lasombra and Banu Haqim. Big on religion.

>>720046661

Assamites got into religion after Hakim was asleep, after Ur Shulgi awakens he makes his personal mission to purge the ones who hold Allah higher than Hakim, and makes the clan adhere to the path of blood.

>>720046905
It's really funny

>>720046905
Behead those who insult the Prophet. Hakim is God and Ur Shulgi is his Messenger.

>>720046661
Lasombra mostly just used the corrupt institutions of the Church as a Land Power, to parralel the presence of Ventrue within the Nobility. There weren't typically what you'd call Christian Lasombra the same way you had Islamic Assamites.

There were exceptions of course, what do you expect when your recruitment pool consists of Priests, and sometimes you had Lasombra worshipping Obtenabration itself like a Deity. But generally I would think Vampires are a pretty cynical and wordly lot.

>>720026404 (OP)
Based b8-master.

>>720047574
There was a kindred who witnessed the crucifixion of Jesus, I believe, and became deeply religious as a result. I cannot recall who that was.

>>720047574
>>720048673
I think there was a (very) small subsect of Lasombra who were actually straight up catholic.

>>720031829
>DLSS
Okay, now show us real footage.

>>720048673
>>720048824
Personally I love religous vampires, either genuine believers or those who cope with their nature by inventing a pro-vampire heresies. Trad Cath Lasombra are my preferred way for the Clan to behave. I just know that's not the Clans "Default". The same way Ventrue are a bunch of mostly a lot of Stock Brokers and Politicians when I like Noblesse Oblige

>>720049128
Same, I love the concept too.

>>720032273
I really hate how the shills are trying to rewrite history and claim that "actually bloodlines was always bad" now. I mean, everyone predicted they would do it, I just hoped to be proven wrong. It's so fucking scummy.

ChatGPT shill bot, why do we say "unexpected" and not "nonexpected"?

>>720049727
Bloodlines was good despite its technical shortcomings, you're insane if you don't think Bloodlines was a janky mess with some terrible level design near the end of the game.

>>720049727
>expecting the kikeswedes at Paradox and the chink room to not be as scummy as possible
First day, huh?

>>720050060
See, you saying that it was good is still more than the shills will say. They are trying to force a narrative that there's actually nothing good about it.
>>720050108
That's literally what I said I WAS expecting. I said I was hoping to be proven wrong.

>>720050193
I'm one of the guys who was having that conversation. No one was saying that. The gameplay was weak, the atmosphere is amazing, it did a wonderful job introducing people to the setting. Not at all a controversial take about the game.

>>720031476
This is what I noticed with Nintendo games and it's the reason I don't come on here. It's just advertising with extra steps.

Like super Mario Odyssey was like oh you can get 1000 moons and you can go here and here and here.

No one in the thread was like oh do you work for Nintendo with that knowledge. What's going on there. Why is there a shill thread for Nintendo games. And when I started to talk how weird this is and it does the opposite of making games desirable I got banned.

This website is corporate

>>720050716
Very stylish and polite gorilla

>>720050716
I wanna slap those cheeks so bad.

>>720026404 (OP)
>2 of them (Toreador and Lasombra) are locked behind $20 day 1 DLC
Is Paradox legit tone deaf? The first attempt crumble and shit the bed, hype around second one doesn't exist. Yet. The sheer confidence they can jew out some sucker.

>>720050952
Theyll definitely remove that given the negative press I feel

>>720050952
For Paradox it works every time and makes them a ton of profit. I guess your Imsim/action game audience is less retarded than 4x players because there's been enough backlash and pre-order cancels that they might change the DLC to be cheaper or even free but I don't think they said anything yet.

>>720032390
just stop, please.

>>720051013
They better. I just want to play with obtenebration

What they've shown of Brujah phyre looks like trash compared to other clans. We need greasier hairstyles or some piercings or something.

Skinhead Brujah > Antifa Brujah. Damsel was a mistake.