Thread 720034354

>>720034354 (OP)
Name 6 gorillion games.

>>720034836
Dragon Age Origins
Dragon Age Origins Awakening
Dragon Age 2
Dragon Age 2 Mark of the Assassin
Dragon Age Inquisition
Dragon Age Inquisition Trespasser

>>720034354 (OP)
Why did he betray Middle Earth to Sauron when Sauron is weaker than the Valar who defeated his marginally powerful master thousands of years ago? Did he seriously think Sauron could ever win? At all?

>>720035018
the ring

>>720035018
Valar fucked off to another plane of existence, they didn't care what happens to Middle-Earth in Third Age

>>720034354 (OP)
>dude named Kain
>betrays you

>>720035018
Hubris and rebellion against god or something like that.

>>720035018
He drank retard water.

>>720034354 (OP)
was literally anyone surprised at his betrayal? Even watching this as a kid, I knew he was going to be evil because his name was Saruman and the bad guy's name was Sauron.

>>720034354 (OP)
>King Dragon sends his regards

>>720035018
in the book he really wanted pipe weed

>>720034354 (OP)
Saruman was never a party member. He would be more like if a Quest NPC was giving you evil tasks then when you confront him he attacks.

>sauron
>saruman
>sauronman
tolkien is a hack, not gonna bother reading his next book

>>720034354 (OP)
>Saruman
Why did Tolkien named him "Monkey-man"?

>>720035018
He planned to use the ring himself and take control of Sauron's armies

>>720035018
Saruman was a tactician who correctly surmised that Sauron would win in the long term. Even if the ring was never found, or dropped into the ocean, Sauron would still eventually overcome middle earth. The elves were in decline and leaving in droves. Dwarves were shutting themselves off and had lost Moria. Men were enfeebled by centuries of peace. Meanwhile, Sauron was pumping out orcs like bacteria, and he was leveraging industry to wage war on a large scale. It was only through the bullshit that was the ghost army did Aragon decisively styme Sauron's main army. Saruman never would have believed that Aragon would have the will to do that.

>>720035073
Iluvatar does though

>>720035295
More like
>Saaaaaaaaaaruman

orc migrants would have made rohan great again

>>720034354 (OP)
>Sharkey

Machinations.

>>720035295
Tolkien watched one too many tokusatsu and tried to strike a deal with Ishimori Pro but he got laughed out of China for it

>>720035018
He thought allying with Sauron would give him a chance to capture the Ring and defeat Sauron and rule Middle-earth in his place. Even if he failed to capture the Ring, he believed that Sauron would win no matter what, so opposing him is pointless.

>>720035569
Why would Saruman think he can get the ring, if he believes the Nazguls would take it from Frodo

>>720035018
Saruman only believed great power could stop evil like Sauron, and he saw no great power in middle earth, so he surmised that they would fall and Sauron would take over. He joined up with the initial intention of curbing his excesses, but he lost sight of that and became corrupted by the idea of industry, as Treebeard said, he has "a mind of metal and wheels".

Bonds of fellowship don't mean anything to him, that's why Gandalf saw a way out and he didn't.

>>720035367
Why would he even care though? Even if they failed and he died, his spirit would just go back to Valinor.

>>720035638
He didn't, he sent the Uruk-hai to try to get it before the Nazgul did.

>>720035638
He wanted to find it first, which is why he misleads the Nazgul that comes to Orthanc asking about it.

>>720034354 (OP)
Gandalf the grey... Gandalf the noob!

>>720034354 (OP)
>all kills are counted the same way regardless of enemy strength

>>720035773
damn, the book really had everything covered

>>720035729
All the wizards were barred from returning to Valinor until Sauron was destroyed, physically and spiritually.

>>720035073
>another plane of existence
You do realize right that Valinor is a real physical place in Middle-Earth? You can sail there.

>>720036031
I guess that explains why all but Gandalf fucked off to do their own thing, they likely all believed Sauron couldn't be beaten

>>720036046
>You do realize right that Valinor is a real physical place in Middle-Earth? You can sail there.
It was until the Ban of the Valar was violated, then it was physically removed from Middle Earth and the world was turned round.

>>720036046
Only if you know the special routes, you could sail there properly in the 2nd age.

>>720035018
>who defeated his marginally powerful master
Morgoth was THE most powerful Valar. It took just about everyone to actually defeat him even with his powers depleted.

Historically, Sauron always said the Istari were nothing more than a glorified crew

>>720036206
It took just one of them to beat his ass.

>>720034354 (OP)
Marius had a hard life. First, he was companion to Diablo in human skin who treated him surprisingly well but the faggot went into the gay hell portal instead of staying behind and doing his Lord of Terror shit.
Also, Marius stood just behind the wall separating him from Mephisto (who has a long aggro range), Diablo and Baal (who no doubt felt the presence of his soulstone right under his nose. All he needed to do is catch Marius with his tentacles, take the stone and march, three of them, together. Instead, Mephisto stays in his gay jungle temple (to be farmed for rare items I believe), Diablo gets his anus GAPED on his own territory, a humiliating loss for the self-styled "Lord of Terror" - more like LORD OF LOSERS. Baal seems the most intelligent, as he goes into hiding, somehow undetected by both Tyrael and remaining mages that could feel a dark presence (like your character does), Marius willingly goes to some place for crazy fucks where beatings continue until madness resolves, stays there with the soulstone that not even the Angel creators can pinpoint, nor can the dumb faggot Tyrael. Unsurprisingly, Marius tells his sobstory, gives the stone to "Tyrael" only to realize he just gave a massive power up boost to Baal, and getting raped by tentacles (Japanese influence in Diablo II). All this just because he didn't enter the portal to get his anus gaped by Diablo - but he'd be far more gentle. And maybe he'd put the Baal's soulstone shard into his head so he'd look cooler and cuck his younger brother out of being a dumb looking spider-thing.

the mines of moria, whatever happened there

>>720036334
The Dwarves dug too greedily and too deep.

I actually thought that Bilbo and Frodo were going to live forever at the end of RotK, that's why it's called the Undying Lands. But it turns out they both die of old age.

>>720036469
Correct.

>>720035993
Almost as if it was written by someone actually competent, huh?

>elves technically immortal but bound to the land until the end of time
>men (and hobbits maybe?) have finite lives but go to "heaven" and chill with Iluvatar when they die
which is better

>>720036576
They will both end up together in heaven, after the world ends.

>>720036469
They're called the undying lands because the natives there don't die, animals, plants, that kind of thing. Going there doesn't make you immortal, much less those with the gift of men like hobbits. Designed and destined to die by god.

Is there a game with traitorous party members where they don't betray you because they had to, or because they were coerced or controlled or any other excuse? There's always some cheesy redeeming/justifying the character later, they are never just a traitor and that's it.

the undying lands are not subject to decay like middle earth does. At first I thought it was a different continent but somewhere in the timeline it was sent to a different dimension accessible only by elves

>>720036576
>but go to "heaven" and chill with Iluvatar when they die
No, they don't. Even Iluvatar can't leave the spheres of the world, only Men can, what happens to them after their spirits depart the spheres is completely unknown.

>>720035367
>Men were enfeebled by centuries of peace.
It's actually the opposite, men in the LOTR world had suffered centuries of protracted warfare and two devastating plagues that greatly reduced their numbers. They were basically slowly chipped away and only Gondor and Rohan remained as any real centralized powers of men in Middle Earth.

>>720036585
>IT'S SARU-MAM !

>>720036715
Lufia the Legend Returns. Your elf waifu and first party member betrays you because the final villain is the last of her race, she had to betray you because she wants to save her race

>>720035018
>>720035052
>>720035073
>>720035325
>>720035367

All of you are wrong. The reason is much more plain - he used the Palantir recklessly, until Sauron caught onto him. They engaged in a battle of wills, which Saruman lost.

From that moment on, without realizing it, he became just another puppet.

>>720036469
>touch a ring for a few minutes
>have to go live with a bunch of immortals until you die
I never got this.

>>720036585
I thought it was Sorry Man.

>>720036649
>They're called the undying lands because the natives there don't die, animals, plants, that kind of thing.

No, it's called that because it was the designated homeland for the Elves, who were supposed to be undying.

It's also one of the few places where their spirits are rejuvenated.

>>720036469
Funnily enough that exact confusion is what Sauron used to eventually convince Numenor to try and declare war on the Valar.

>>720036206
He lost to a dog

>>720036871
Everything there is also undying, anon, just like the elves.

>>720035018
Saruman fucked up because he thought Gandalf was Grey but then he became Gandalfdore the White, swastika (the holy buddhist symbol) shining so hard in front of him that orcs (representing blacks in Tolkien's works) became buck broken, kneeled in fear and awe, recognizing the true Aryan, the last of his kind. Saruman knew he was a filthy poser and thought Sauron can bring a new Wakanda to the Mid Earth (very mid indeed).

Reminder that the humans were about to roll the Elves in their own lands until God intervened on behalf of the fag elves and drowned the humans.

In like 10 years, people will try to recast and create a song of ice and fire tv series once again.
You can never do that with lotr. The trilogy is such a perfected experiment, with so many things going right, and quite literally created through love, blood sweat and tears. Can you ever imagine someone else doing any of these roles. The creative liberties used in the movie are near perfect. There is just almost no other creation like the trilogy that comes close in terms of passion and love when being made. Unironically the first three Halos kind of had that but that's a game

>>720036649
An interesting thing is that in Tolkien's early writings, humans were originally going to be immortal like Elves, but they consorted with Morgoth and got cursed with mortality, like a Garden of Eden type scenario, but Tolkien later changed it to the Gift of Eru thing.

>>720035993
except the eagles

>>720037123
>The trilogy is such a perfected experiment
The experiment- no blacks.

>>720036871
>their spirits are rejuvenated.
Why's that important?

>>720037209
Flying in fantasy always causes plot holes because travelling large distances is basically the core of fantasy.

>>720037123
The LOTR trilogy will never be remade because it's impossible to make it without half the cast being race swapped. This will always detract from the believability of the setting and story.

>>720037247
>Why's that important?

It's the main reason why Elves can't permanently stay outside of Valinor and a handful of other places - they need places of power in order to sustain their spirits, otherwise they slowly fade away, weaken, die, and then are reincarnated on Valinor either way. That's why the Three Rings were forged by the Elves in the first place - to create such places.

>>720035018
He took the blackpill

>>720036814
unbearable trauma that distances you from your peers, elfs have huge traumas as well from being immortal, more at place there

>>720037306
I feel this way is the case with every fantasy and period piece that will be made from now on

>>720037547
There's also the massive irony of the Gift of Men (death and moving onto the next life). Initially Elves viewed it with pity as a curse, but as time went on it turned into burning envy, even for those of Valinor.

>>720036778
>there is a foul smell on the air

>>720036715
I'd count the one unique ending in Tales of Symphonia as doing this. The guy has a loose reason for betraying you and justified it as hes dying that "my life sucked antways."

Gandalf saw the most disgusting dregs when he fell down that pit. Literally rejected, Eldritch like beings that show the most vile aspects of creation. Beings rejected and abandoned by Eru and whatever higher powers forged them. Gandalf still helped humanity after that. We love gandalf don't we. Love Gandalf..

>>720036725
When Arda was flat, they were the same physical place. When Eru made the world round, it removed Aman from the world. Elvish boats still travel "straight" and may reach them.

>>720037123
>>720037306
>>720037578
You now remember Rings of Power

>>720037457
That's because Morgoth permanently corrupted the world, though, isn't it?

>Morgoth
cool name, fitting for a Dark Lord
>Melkor
awful, sounds like a nerd who gets bullied at the lunch tables

Why did tolkien have such a boner for elves

>>720037123
When you watch the BTS, people were literally ready to die during the production of these movies.
People sacrificed entire months to a year doing excruciating shit for the sake of production.
Iirc one guy in his basement spent like 9 months painstakingly perfecting the 10 second long scene where barad-dur crumbles at the end. 9 months for 10 seconds from one guy.

>>720037894
No, that's just how their spirits work. What Melkor introduced was the war, misery, trauma and suffering that would hasten the process.

>>720038019
For me its the guys who had to link each ring of chain mail by hand.

>>720034354 (OP)
Only tangentially related, but as an artist what I like doing is recreating screens from the movies while using the Legend of Zelda mythos. “Somaria” is the name I’m going with in OP’s context, named after one of the Cane items in Link to the Past.

>>720036797
Is this in the book?

>>720038092
Very cool anon. Do you have a twitter or other art site

>>720038019
i bet it feels great to have a purpose in this world and earn a salary doing it. at this point i'll never know for sure

Tolkien would not have been happy to learn the films were shot in New Zealand

>>720038228
No one is happy that New Zealand exists.

>>720038298
Satan is

>>720036987
Best explanation.

>>720036778
>>720037645

>>720038228
They probably could have gotten away with using the UK, but nz was perfect

>>720038094
It's in the Appendix.

>>720038228
Why?

>>720038228
The only place that NZ lacks as far as Middle-Earth is concerned, is a prairie-land for Rohan, which is kinda obvious in Two Towers because in the Rohan scenes there's always hills and cliffs and mountains in the background when book-wise Rohan is flat.

>>720038169
Artstation: https://www.artstation.com/trondei3
DeviantArt: https://www.deviantart.com/trondei
There’s also Redwall art, plus other fanarts & original things.

>>720034354 (OP)
>that party member's name?
>Friendbetrayerman

>>720038530
I feel like you would enjoy dragon quest and its aesthetics. Idk how to explain why.

>>720036715
Pathfinder WOTR. The based retard spider cat girl will try to be betray you on multiple occasions because she's retarded.

>>720034836
>Star Ocean 4
>Live a Live
>Xenoblade X
On the top of my mind

>>720035018
Because Arda has becoming more and more mundane since the beginning of its creation and the Valar haven't appeared in Middle Earth for thousands of years. It is fairly rational to think that, at least in the short to medium-term, one might dominate Middle-Earth through physical might and industry alone, because Middle-Earth was, at the end of the Third Age, losing its magic and connection to the gods.
Could also give more generic answers, the strongest probably being that Melkor/Morgoth was a being of the allfather's own creation and that evil had a permanent place in the cosmology as well as the world itself. It wasn't a sure thing that good would win besides in the very end of the world, which would have seemed impossibly distant to Sauronman

>>720038814
I love my retarded spider wife Wendu

>>720038763
It’s the purple clothes.

>>720038412
Tolkien was very insistent that the Shire was based on rural England. It’s not just the Shire. Tolkien wrote the Lord of the Rings as a mythology for England.

>>720038530
What's with the red Nazgul dudes? I remember them in LOTRO but I have no idea what they are.

>>720039318
They were kings once, the ones that were given rings

>>720039358
That's just the regular Nazgul

>>720039318
Since the idea is retelling LOTR with the Zelda mythos, these ringwraiths are an allusion to Ghirahim from Skyward Sword.

>>720036728
Gandalf seems to know, but won't speak of it. He learned it when he died. This is mentioned in the books when Gandalf informs Aragon's group of what happened to him. Something something "roads of the dead, of which I will not speak".

>>720040009
Gandalf is a Maiar, he doesn't possess the gift of men.

>>720034354 (OP)

>4000 years of wisdom
>black pills the moment evil comes back

What a fucking pussy.

>>720034354 (OP)
Since amazon was taking a dump on LotR anyway, they should have used pre-fall Saruman
He was the previous white wizard after all

>>720039358
Those are the black robed onces, the red guys seem like minor Nazgul or something

>>720035018
>Wizard named sauron man turns out to be a slave to sauron

Who could have seen it coming?

>>720036725
This really toggles my noggin. Because how does the continent work, then? Like what is its soil of not decayed plant and animal matter? Sure, some of these can have died violently, but most plants don't die due to actually being chewed on by a ruminant and shat out.

How would he feel knowing his silly children's stories became the gold standard and template for all fantasy in existence?

>>720036797
also book saruman was batshit crazy

>>720040076
He experienced something when he died like a mortal. Also he told Merry that death is only a beginning. He wouldn't lie about that if he didn't know.

How could Sauronman ally with Sauron?!

>>720035729
He couldn't leave unless Sauron was destroyed, so he was entirely stuck.

>>720036265
After he had been diminished into a pale shadow of his former self, yes.

>>720040583
As a Maiar, he can 'die', but like elves, death is not the same for him as it is for Men, he's bound to the spheres of the world. He was talking about Valinor to Merry. You have to understand that what happens to the spirits of men when they die isn't known by anyone. They leave the universe entirely, the only thing that's said is that they'll come back when Iluvatar is ready to start the second song. It's a deliberate mystery.

>>720034354 (OP)
Why did he dye his hair blue?

>we don't give a shit about middle earth but I guess we should do something
>okay how we send five Maiar, four of whom don't care either, to guide the men and elves against Sauron
>also tell them they aren't coming back until the job is done
are the Valar retarded

>>720040801
he's transitioning

>>720040801
#IstariForKamala

>>720040857
The music of the ainur is basically natural law for fucking everything but men, so not only are they retarded, god decreed that they be retarded.

>>720040926
We must be better wizards. Kinder, gentler, more empathy for Orcfolk.

>>720040860
I mean his mom and little sister were more or less held hostage.

When you think about it, LOTR is probably one of the hardest fantasy series to make games for because of how "low" fantasy it is. You cannot even play as a wizard throwing fireballs and shit without breaking the lore.

>>720041749
LOTRO has two caster classes

>>720041075
Do you know what was her reasoning?

>>720034354 (OP)
>Sauronman
>lives in orc-tank
>his trustworthy friend is Grim Lietongue

>>720041967
Wasn't she tricked by her tutor who had taken the place of her father that she had killed?

It's been a while since I played it FUGA 2.

>>720034836
Star Wars Knights of The Old Republic

>>720042163
he*

>>720036797
>>720035018
Didn't he want to avoid the slow doom of men or some shit?
In the book he keeps saying cryptic shit even after sauron is defeated.

>>720042325
>>720042163

Oh, this sounds so dumb.

>>720041749
No its hard because retards wanna turn it into something its not. See the Hobbit trilogy, Rings of Power, the Shadow of War games etc. The era of people vaguely or attempting to understand Tolkiens word and wanting to properly adapt it is long past. A LOTR game now would have sympathetic dindu orcs and an elf who sits down and goes:
>Soooooooooo I’m non-binary.

>>720036031
>All the wizards were barred from returning to Valinor until Sauron was destroyed
where is this stated?

>>720042408
Read

>>720035052
i thought the point of the one ring was that it had dominion over the lesser rings
does anyone actually wear the rings anymore?

So why didn't the eagles take them to mordor?
Or even to the top of the volcano and drop the ring directly to the crater?

>>720037123
The actors in lotr got paid like $100k-$250k for the three films. I'd be surprised if you can find something like that today.

>>720042540
The Nazgul do, Gandalf also has the Ring of Fire. He'd have to take it off if Sauron got the One Ring back though.

>>720040857
All humanity needed was one wise man in the right place at the right time to advise the right people and guide the Ring to mount Doom. Five was overkill (and in fact one of those five made the struggle much, much more difficult instead of easier, since Saruman drank the Sauron koolaid instead of doing his job). If they had sent only Gandalf and none of the rest it probably would have worked out even better.

>>720040410
only the Hobbit was a children's story. LOTR was very much created with the intent of being an epic.

>>720036797
>he used the Palantir recklessly
I hate that I do a double take every time i read this word in the context of Tolkien now.

>>720042592
what happened to the dorf rings if the human rings are nazgul
i wanna see midget nazgul

>>720042738
it's more insane to me that someone actually believed it was a good idea to name their brand after a set of magical scrying devices that were corrupted to perform unbelievable evils by Satan himself

>>720042575
As intelligent beings they're suspectible to the ring's influence leading into them cracking eventually and trying to take the ring for themselves

>>720042764
Sauron tried to control the dwarves but his attempt just made them even crazier and they dug deep into the mountains and unearthed the Balrog. Maybe that was what Sauron intended.

>>720042575
Sauron has spies in the form of various animals which includes birds. The birds would tell Saurons men who then have the Nazgul send the Fell Beasts to mob them.

So the Universe was created during the Ainulindale. What about Alien life? Are there Valar who are responsible for other Planets? Do they also have a Sun and Moon that are vessels for the essence of the two trees and moved by Maiar?

>>720042764
The dwarven kings that took the rings successfully resisted Sauron's corrupting influence, but Sauron just made them crave gold more instead as a backup plan and they destroyed themselves fighting over treasure and jewels like the Arkanstone
It's also the reason why they got attacked by ancient monsters like the Balrog and Smaug.

>>720042575
>why wouldn't flying sentient beings fly a mind-dominating ring straight into a fortress guarded by flying super soldiers and surrounded by spies of all types
dunno

>>720042575
it's funny because the books bring up the eagles as an option at the Council of Elrond but it's quickly shot down for an obvious reason
>birds love shiny objects, they'd just drop us and take the ring for themselves
Unfortunately the movies didn't include this part of the Council, but it's understandable given how incredibly long the Council was in the book as they discuss options and alternatives

>>720042789
They weren't "corrupted." The problem was that Sauron had one in his possession, and they were interconnected.

Once he was defeated, the palantirs became invaluable magical tools once more.

>>720042981
why didn't they bring a little mouse on a leash to carry the ring

>>720042328
That's because Melkor is prophesized to escape his imprisonment.

>>720043087
the mouse would grow large and infect them with super aids

The only thing he did wrong was that he didn't kill enough Teleri.

>>720043071
They were corrupted by his presence anon, they were magical cell phones except they only had one number in the address book and calling it puts you on the line with Satan himself. They were purified by the defeat of Sauron but Gandalf and Aragorn both acknowledge that the palantirs are accursed due to Sauron's presence and treat them with as much wariness as they would treat the rings of power as, essentially, one way trips to instant corruption. Aragorn only survives his mental duel uncorrupted by Sauron because he has admin rights over the palantir network.

>>720043087
during the stand off at black gate they could actually have catapulted some nigga with the ring straight into mt. doom though. no need to torture frodo with a 13 month long journey alone.

>>720043285
with what catapults? They didn't have the men nor the time to bring siege weapons to the Black Gates

>>720043087
In the original draft a fish goes mad and kills itself from swallowing the ring where Gollum/Deagol discover it. I imagine the same thing would happen to any other animal.

>>720043181
>Your mother is literally the only Elf in existence who refused to be reincarnated.
>You are literally the only orphan in Valinor.
>You are literally the only one with step-siblings and step-parents in Valinor.
>Your father is literally the only divorcee in Valinor, he even got a special dispensation from the gods.
>Your father and trusted servants are also literally the first victims of murder in Valinor...
>Murdered by Melkor...
>Whom you warned everyone around against trusting and releasing from prison...

It's more surprising Feanor didn't just turn fully evil.

>>720043269
You're just needlessly expanding on what I already said. The devices weren't corrupted, it's their connection to Sauron that made them dangerous. After he was defeated they were safe to use again.

>>720043341
>with what catapults?
with one they captured at minas tirith. you're not seriously telling me they destroyed every single one.

>>720043181
Why didn't those retarded beach elves just shut the fuck up and give Feanor his ships?

>>720042789
>>720043375
for whatever reason defense companies with tolkien-stolen names are hip now

>>720043427
>You're just needlessly expanding on what I already said.
You're just being pedantic. The palantirs were corrupt by Sauron's influence, just because they were purified later doesn't undo that. Using the Palantir as the symbol of your surveillance company is like openly broadcasting that you plan to use your powers for evil rather than good.

>>720043563
Tolkien himself would have fucking hated it

I love my retarded spider wife Wendu

>>720037247
Human men can match her lifespan.

>>720042789
>it's more insane to me that someone actually believed it was a good idea to name their brand after a set of magical scrying devices that were corrupted to perform unbelievable evils by Satan himself
Certain individuals believe that they have to tell you what they're doing even if it's incredibly evil shit, and if you don't argue, then it's the same as giving them permission to do it. Being opaque, vague and metaphorical about it so nobody takes it seriously is a loophole.

>>720043375
>>720042789
>>720043563
>be Jews
>identify with the bad guys in a story

>>720034354 (OP)
>Sauron's henchane is called Sauronman
How did Tolkien get away with it?

>>720037547
Look harder.

>>720044705
Did you know that a lot of surnames in europe started out as job descriptions?

>>720044840
Sauron is a job description?

Why do modern white men seen to hate Tolkien now?

>>720044945
Well no, but it's the same principle. He named a guy after what he was going to do.

>>720044947
Are you stupid? I mean genuinely stupid.

>>720045021
This makes sense for civilized societies. Makes no sense for literal gods duking it out and backstabbing eachother.
Gandalf isn't called Manweman.

>>720044840
the Cunnydeflowerer line is a proud and storied family line

>>720034354 (OP)
>gets stabbed by Grima like an old fool after getting buck broken by Gandalf
I wanted a sequel where rock bottom Saruman lives in a shack brewing moonshine and goes insane

>>720045517
I mean that basically is what happened in the Shire when he went Sharky-mode

>>720036814
Parallel to war ptsd. Veterans never fit back in society. Tolkien didn't write a trillion books about fictional tongues and genealogy because he was bored.

>Saruman
>Complains about Gandalf doing pipeweed
>Has barrels of it in his store room
>Complains about Radagast doing shrooms because they yellow his teeth
>Has yellow teeth himself
??

>>720045021
Saruman wasn't given his name by Sauron. He was named by men.

>>720045669
>Tolkien
>PTSD
lol fucking lmao

>>720045823
I mean Tolkien named a guy after what he was going to do

>>720045836
Nta but brother, he was on the front lines of the single most gruesome war in human history. He watched best friends die as their intestines poured out of their abdomen.
PTSD does affect every person the exact same way.

>>720037645
>THEY'RE TAKING THE HOBBITS TO TRANNISENGARD!

>>720045836
The only PTSD Tolkien suffered was when they forced him to stop killing G*rmans and go home.

>>720045996
looks like HRT is back on the menu, boys

>>720045992
He was deployed for barely a year, as an officer, he got trench fever and was sent home for the rest of the war. There are men who were in that war from start to finish. You read their fucking memoirs to get a picture of how horrific it was, not some guy with romantic ideas about english shire life.

>>720039358
They were cucks once, the ones given the cucksheds. Yet, they slowly went mad, as they couldn't find a bvll more fitting for their wives than... Sauron.
See, little halfling, the One Cuckshed is capable of making all your NTR fantasies real... but it will lead you to ruin. You'll beg to suck Sauron's scalding hot cock and balls yourself. In the end, you won't even care about NTR. The One Cuckshed turns you into the most despicable creature, one that lives only to serve the cock of it's master, rimming his crusty, thousand years old asshole. Frodo, have you ever thought about how does a thousand old shit full of hate and anger tastes like? How does it slide out of his cursed asshole?

>>720046031
The vast majority of soldiers never even saw the enemy and just slowly rotted away in a trench.

Ungoliant vs Shelob who wins

>>720042575
I think they should go to the Moria and give the ring to the Balrog to see what happens

>>720046317
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEZsGUqgtHQ

>>720042789
Doing evil plainly in the open gives satanic fags a hard on.

>>720046317
The vast majority of soldiers don't see combat because in industrial warfare only 1 out of 10 members of the military are frontline fighters.

>>720044560
This is a very important post. Lot's of shit is hidden in plain sight. They declassify a lot of stuff in movies too

>>720046317
The soldiers that never saw combat weren't the ones rotting in the trenches anon, they were the backlines/rear support elements. Messengers, medics, supply drivers, command staff, etc.

>>720046429
ungoliant

>>720035018
Point was to step on his skull, he didn't want to be his boy to the end!

>>720035018
>all these retarded replies
Sauronman wanted to defeat Sauron and rule over middle earth himself

>>720035018
Too weak willed to handle the internet is unironically Sauronman's story

>giant talking tree with a long beard
>call him Treebeard
>man who wants to borrow the ring
>call him Borrowmir
>hobbit who has to throw the ring back in where it came from
>call him Throwdo Backins

>>720034354 (OP)
>party members betray you
meh i dont really car-
>they took the items you gave them

>>720048512
wow I hadn't even realized, my life is a lie

>>720048512
Bravo Kojima

>>720037209
>The Lord of the Eagles would not take them anywhere near where men lived. “They would shoot at us with their great bows of yew,” he said, “for they would think we were after their sheep. And at other times they would be right. No! we are glad to cheat the goblins of their sport, and glad to repay our thanks to you, but we will not risk ourselves for dwarves in the southward plains.”

>>720048895
>character is trying to stop the Cold War from heating up
>his name is Hot Coldman
he really is like Tolkein

Why didn't aragon use his ghost army to kill Sauron?

I only ever watched the movies so finding out he originally dies in the Shire was hilarious.

>>720048742
something's strange with your gif

>>720048512
>evil people's base is Mordor (murder)
>big boss is at Mt. Doom (really?)
>place that has a hard time being defended is Gondor (gone door)
>evil sidekick is Grima Wormtongue (ffs)
>Big boss (Sauron) right hand man's name is Sauronman (jfc)
>steward of the throne - Stewart of Gondor (cmon now)
>Character has daddy issues - Fathermir (ffs)
>I am no man - is a woman

>>720046429
Is that a beauty contest? Let's see ungoliant's curves

>>720049763
fuck

>>720049898
>"Christopher, my son, did I ever tell you the full story of Shelob? You know, the monstrous spider - descended from the vile Ungoliant! - which I used to read aloud of in our Oxford meetings of the Inklings? Well what I didn't mention back then was Shelob could also transform into a totally hot babe: all pale and dark and wan like Rebecca in Ivanhoe or what will later come to be known as the goth subculture. In fact she looked very much like the pornographic actress Stoya who will be born 13 years after I die. Christopher, I will be entrusting you with my estate. If there is ever a videogame adaptation of my work you must make sure they get this Shelob right - make sure she is what the Anglo-Saxons would have called a hæða ecge, a real sexy bitch."

>>720050463
I was there when he said that.

>>720050463
...and she was a good friend.

>>720048512
Treebeards real name is Fangorn.

>>720034354 (OP)
>leave Sauron...TO M--AAAACK

>all the bad men are either brown or stand-ins for arabs, mongolians or other less desirable races
What did Tolkien mean by thay?

>>720050463
It's funny that in all the countless words Tolkien wrote, there's basically never once a mention that any character in the world feels sexual desire. Even in Beren and Luthien, it's purely about love and never desire. In fact I think the only time sexuality is featured is when Luthien uses a seductive dance/song to put Morgoth to sleep so she can steal the Silmaril.

>>720034354 (OP)
Betrayal is, IMO, the worst thing one can do. NOTHING hurts as much as betrayal does.

>>720053983
False. Maeglin wanted to fuck his own cousin and betrayed Gondolin to do it.

>>720053983
Don't take my word for it, but I seem to remember that Tolkien explained the orgasm of female elves quite in-depth. Unless my mind is playing tricks on me again.

>>720053983
doesn't Morgoth trick Turin's son and daughter into fucking or something

>>720054337
yes sir

>>720053547
He saw firsthand the thread of the Germanic menace. WWII proved him right.

>>720034836
FF7

>>720054337
That was Glaurung, but yeah. He mind wiped her with his draconic gaze, and Turin had never even met his sister so he had no idea what she looked like. With his dying breath Glaurung broke the amnesia spell, which drove both to suicide when they learned what they had done.

>>720034836
Bully
Tony Hawk Underground 2

>>720034836
The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers

>>720056046
why is this trope so common

>>720045767
Jackson added that for the /reddit/ crowd. They love weed.

>>720059208
kek

>>720045767
>The prideful bad guy is a hypocrite
I don't understand what the issue is.

>>720060652
pretty sure the very first page of LOTR opens with a page about how much hobbits love weed

>>720046698
So....he was bored

>>720044705
>Treebeard
>It's a tree with a beard
Bravo, Tolkien

>>720036814
Kinda related to this but I just showed the movie trilogy to my gf and she thought frodo didn't deserve to be a protagonist because he really doesn't change at all and comes off as a whiny bitch. Now I told her that in the books he's a bit different, but as I talked to her about the chapter of the Scouring, I kinda came to agree with her. Even during the home-coming, Frodo doesn't want to shed any blood and he's scared of fighting to take his home back.

>>720060451
Surprise incest or double suicides?

>>720061676
surprise incest followed by double suicide

>>720044947
only trannies hate Tolkien

>>720052229
About that...

>>720043285
They had to send someone that didn't want the ring. Frodo and Sam had simple desires which was merely to return to the Shire. All the men would be corrupted through love of their homeland and people, like Boromir was

>>720061740
Probably just emulating the Greeks.

>>720042789
You do realize we have SHODAN IRL?

>>720034836
Time to post this absolutely sad chad again.

>>720042789
Palantir as a company is comedically fucking evil, and I'm not saying that in the le reddit star wars kind of way, but the kind of scum fuckery you'd read in some dystopian sci fi novel.

>>720061627
I figure that's half the point. Frodo didn't go on to become a great and wise hero-king or anything. He's a fucked up little fella at the end of it all.
Sam and the other hobbits get to return and be heroes and fuck their waifus, but there's no reward for Frodo. Even if important people like Aragorn say nice things about him, he's physically and mentally scarred for life, there's probably a huge chunk of Frodo that's still longing for The Ring again too.
He's so broken by the quest that the best anyone can do for him is to let him sail off into magicland to find whatever peace he can.

>>720034354 (OP)
Saruman did nothing wrong, without common enemy humans would kill themselves for the lulz in civil war. And that what actually happened in the book.

You get to ME but find out the life of adventure, war and thrills is too much for you. Would you live in The Shire instead? Naturally youre gonna have to pick up a trade and work. No internet, cellphones or modern tech either.

Fuck you Turin

>>720062135
If evil, why winning?

>>720062371
Shire is fucked big time in every outcome.

>>720062371
Do they get vidya in the fourth age?

SARUMAN THE STINKYYYYY

>>720062234
Frodo is practically Tolkien's Jesus. He bears the suffering of the evil ring so everyone can be saved. Valinor where he goes at the end is basically Heaven, so he is rewarded in the end just not with earthly pleasures

>>720059208
YOU HAVE ELECTED THE WAY OF PAIN

>>720062782
Saruman of many colors (gay)

>>720035018
It's not about winning, it's about taking part.

>>720062996
>For I am Saruman the Wise, Saruman Ring-maker, Saruman of Many Colours!” ‘I looked then and saw that his robes, which had seemed white, were not so, but were woven of all colours, and if he moved they shimmered and changed hue so that the eye was bewildered.
>“I liked white better,” I said.
>“White!” he sneered. “It serves as a beginning. White cloth may be dyed. The white page can be overwritten; and the white light can be broken.”
>“In which case it is no longer white,” said I. “And he that breaks a thing to find out what it is has left the path of wisdom.”

>>720063435
What did Tolkien mean by this?

>>720034354 (OP)
Sith Dooku did nothing wrong.

Do you think Gandalf ever called him "sharkie"?

>>720062390
Ted Nasmith's art is so fucking amazing

>>720063758
Naaaa.... he was called that only by his human and half orc/goblinmen henchmen, no?

>>720062390
>dragon picking both young girls AND twinks

he has good taste I'll give him that

>>720035018
Jedi council was corrupt as fuck. What do you mean he betrayed?

>>720042575
>Why doesn't God just kill Satan and make everyone live forever?

>>720063435
Gotta say, really good dialogue,.

>>720062234
Frodo is kind of like gained immortality, because of it he can live only with elves.

>>720064135
Gnostics and pagans had the answer(s) to that (problem of evil). Not sure what Tolkien's take was on it.

>>720038841
>>Live a Live
Oh yeah I wanted to play that, I bet it's cheap by now
>still $75

>>720035018
But if I'm like this about Halo people will tell me none of my book knowledge is canon.

>>720064641
They should rename themselves Elden Bin to stay relevant today.
One tarnished to remove it all ( they use only one employee per truck )

If you pay extra he wears a cosplay of your character.

>>720042575
>babies first plot hole
It wouldn’t work because Sauron has his own air force.

Does anyone still have that Wangs of Power picture

>>720064979
He has a limited air force.

>>720042738
It's because it's a regular noun and should be properly spelled "palantir" not "Palantir", like we don't also talk about "Pipeweed" but rather "pipeweed".

>>720064135
I don't know but it pisses me off not knowing and it'd take God half a minute to tell us. So fuck him.
>it's all a test
fuck him even more you're not testing me bitch
>just kidding it's not a test you're a mean to an end, a currency in the cosmic state of things and your existence, your consciousness has no value to me
there I'd rather this be the truth and for it to be spilled out.


Niggerfaggot.

>>720062390
>no fantasy game looks like this

>>720042575
Nazgul and archers. Real question is why God allowed Melkor to chimpout and cause all the suffering later on.

>>720063758
I don't think Gandalf likes orc language.

>>720036206
no he wasn't. he was the weakest god, which is why he was the only one to ever lose at anything. that still makes him one of the more powerful beings in the universe, but even Sauron surpassed him in results.

>>720065161
The thing you say this, is because you don't what actually happens when shit hit the fan. God is a personification of the good guy like Doom Slayer. God literally won the war against premordial nothing. Premordial nothing is like super hell on steroids.

>>720034354 (OP)
>the main character betrays you

>>720065554
>your own character betrays you
WTF

>>720065527
>but even Sauron surpassed him in results.
Didn't Aragorn in the Fourth Age hunt down and genocide the Orcs? So ultimately he failed just as hard as Morgie.

>>720065442
Eru is a shitposter. He lets the ring finally get destroyed after a demented Stoor Hobbit falls off a ledge. He caused Numenor to sink despite knowing men could be corrupted by the chief right hand of Melkor.

>>720065678
There's no rhyme and reason to the plot and lore of Middle-earth, ultimately it's all a hack to excuse conlang autism.

>>720037209
>Ring is most dangerous when in the presence of the proud and the powerful
>put it near literal divine beings that are so proud that gandalf alone can hitch a lift

>>720038397
Men with orc wives and orc babies that just wanted to live in peace.

>>720034836
Spell force the order of dawn
Not a party member but ally, the betrayal in that game is actually insane

>>720065771
Remember its all one big giant song. All of reality is just a song. An extremely long song full of many themes and beats.

>>720040410
He'd be happy to know how his epic did indeed have incredibly staying power, but he'd also want to hunt down Del Ray and put him through mustard gas for the damage he did to the fantasy genre

WHERE THERE'S A WHIP

>>720034836
The Hundred Line.

>>720034354 (OP)
>betrays you
>betrays you again
>betrays you again
>betrays you again
>betrays you again
>betrays you again
>betrays you again

>>720066047
DOWN DOWN, TO GOBLIN TOWN

Are those Shadow of mordor games just Fanfiction?

>Where was Gon-?!
Gon what? Gondolin? Why would King Theoden son of Thengel ask Aragorn son of Arathorn about the hidden city of Gondolin of Beleriand located in the vale of Tumladen founded by the high king of the Noldor Turgon after the location was revealed to him by the Valar Ulmo and was sacked by the great incel Maeglin at such a time?

>>720065549
I was ranting about real life god. Got carried away.

>wizard class
>can use swords

fucking lame

>>720066469
Since The primordial nothing got it's ass beaten, God stays the strongest hero or Row row fight da power as they say. Fuck primordial nothing it doesn't have a video games.

>>720065329
There's plenty of games like that.

i think Fingolfin was a pretty rad dude. he 1v1'd a god and managed to give him a permanent limp

>>720066286
Yes. Shelob being a sexy lady wasn't enough of a hint?

Why is all the cool stuff in the first age and before? The third one is really boring.

>>720066561
sword + staff is the most kino combo though

>>720034836
Shaq-fu

>>720066561
Gandalf uses his wizardry for wizza's not for Molded "Let's go to the dentist" Barbie dolls.

>>720062390
We all know this is the main character doing an evil play style.

>>720066968
just like real life. modernity is fucking gay and lame and all the cool shit happened long ago in the past. we missed kino wars and exploring the world and shit

>>720066561
You have to make do then literal gods tell you you're not allowed to just throw fireballs at everything you want.

>>720066561
It requires INT to use

>>720036585
>9-11 happens
>immediately put this shit out
9 year old me couldn't comprehend

To think that leftards are the only thing preventing more LotRs to be made.

I always wondered but does the average joe in the third age even know all the history that came before, do they even know about Eru and the like?

>>720036046
You have to use The Straight Path.
Basically you gotta sail through space and shit.

Happens all the time in rocket league. I can't tell you how many times a douchewad teammate bumps you out of the way for the opposing team to score (deliberately) and also they go rogue and hit the balls into your own goal to help the other team and to fuck with you. So so so annoying.

>>720067343
After The rings of power, yeah nah.

>>720062390
How would you lure in one by one in this situation?

>>720034836
jackie chan

>>720067392
Probably not. Boromir and Eomer both talked about how Lothlorien was supposedly super scary according to the lore they knew.

>>720067343
Sorry but people of other races also want to feel magical and powerful. The world isn't just yours.

>>720034836
SaGa Frontier

>>720067392
they knew about the Valar, maybe not Eru, though the Numenoreans worshipped him on the big mountain

>>720067579
That's what concord was for

>>720067579
Anyone except humans just got died out like losers they are. Even The civil war wasn't enough to kill all humans.

>>720035018
It took literal eons for the valar to finally get off their asses and find a final solution to the morgoth probem, nothing sauron ever did would motivate them

why didnt gollum just eat frodo

>>720037306
Pretty much. The reason why it's so good is because they didn't give a shit about "equality" or "equity" and just hired people based solely upon merit.
We'll never have something that good ever again.

>>720050463
>make sure she is what the Anglo-Saxons would have called a hæða ecge, a real sexy bitch."
This part always gets me.

>>720067942
He tried every other day

>>720067942
He ate their ass when they were asleep.

>>720061676
>>720061938
Are you avatarfagging or is there something I should know about these characters?

>>720061991
I'm amused that real ais have the potential to be petty, selfish and nasty like shodan even in this rudimentary form. I always assumed that them expressing traits like that was a strictly fun fictional concept.

>>720068205
>He mistook their asshole for the ring

>>720068306
>>720068205
Stop posting

>>720068256
Long lost siblings who find out each other's identities later on in the game. Despite having this knowledge, certain people IRL still want them to marry each other since they get along well.

>>720067421
>>720036046
It's a physical place in the third age, but you have to reach escape velocity with your ship to get there.

>>720068489
shut up frodork

>>720068263
The funniest thing is that the AI believes this feels intimidating to the human rather than puzzling and annoying.

>>720068791
>believes
>feels

lol
lmao

>>720042789
It's exactly how they work. Rubbing their evil in our faces.

>>720068791
Moron

did Iluvatar create the hobbits too

>>720034354 (OP)
You could say he... hmmmmmm... barked up the wrong ent.

>>720069265
They are offshoot of humans, possible. Or maybe not, but it's not clear either way. It doesn't matter.

>>720068791
The AI is just stating facts to anyone retarded enough to use it

>>720044679
They just can't fucking help themselves.

>>720069016
Actual dumbass.

>>720068724
It's separated from Arda, nigga. Valar is in fucking space.

>>720069303
You can't make an mother of all omelettes without breaking some eggs, memes Jack.

>>720034836
almost every single person not originally in your group in Tales of Symphonia

>>720041749
>You cannot even play as a wizard throwing fireballs and shit without breaking the lore.
He does it just fine.

>>720034354 (OP)
AAAAAAAAAAA NOOO! WHY IS HE ATTACKING OUR PEACEFUL SHIRE?!

>>720065527
Individually he was, the reason why he lost was because he severed himself from Eru. Which is also the reason why he had no way to replenish is power causing him to become weaker and weaker.

>>720035367
>Mordor
>industry
where?

>>720037209
>The ring is a device that uses ones own power and ambition, even for good, against them. It will slowly corrupt even the most stelwart individuals, and the stronger the will the quicker it takes effect. Beings like Gandalf can't even be offered the ring without freaking out because that alone could be enough to corrupt them
>Galadriel nearly becomes corrupted just THINKING about what they could do with the ring while it was within a 10 meter distance of them, without even being offered it.
>The eagles are literal demi gods and more powerful than Gandalf and Galadriel
>On top of this, they directly state how the kingdoms of men don't like them and have and will attempt to shoot them down without question
>Sauron would literally watch them fly to mordor and would essentially be offered the ring on a plate. He's able to press his will on it when needed considering it literally contains most of his soul and will, making it even easier to be corrupted to the point where even Hobbits couldn't handle it, see Frodo in Mt.Doom
>As soon as the ring is destroyed they are now comfortable transporting them, as seen in the after math of the final battle
>People like to pretend everyone that's strong in middle earth can send information instantly. It takes literal demi gods months if not years to communicate information around the continent, including Sauron himself.
This shit pisses me off even as a meme. The same types that have a complete poopy meltie over it taking gandalf 17 years to find out the truth of the ring and hunt down golem and confirm his suspicions about Saurons return. "Bro why didn't he use magic facetime and admin powers to get all the info instantly and win? What a retard" BECAUSE NO ONE CAN DO THAT

>>720066147
He's the main character tho. You're the one betraying the rest of the party.

>>720036568
nah
given enough time I could write a book about an entire world without any plotholes whatsoever

>>720066787
This. For whatever it's worth, for all it's imperfections, reality and existence beats the nothingness of the waters of chaos.

>>720034836
FFIV

>>720034919
iron bull actually betrayed me in Inquisition cause i sent his tranny squad to die.

>>720070712
Based

>>720036232
>Gandalf never had the makings of a varsity wizard

>>720036797
>puppet
He planned on taking the ring for himself and had a much better army.

>>720070778
it seemed sensible to me not to waste time saving nobodies but i guess i was wrong

>>720070425
The movie adaptations do a poor job at conveying how much time passes between Bilbo's party and Frodo setting out for Bree. In fact they do no job of it at all, aside from making an innkeeper say that he hadn't seen Gandalf in months.

>>720070712
Good.

>>720070712
Honestly it's the most kino way to do that quest, qunari are supposed to be super brainwashed so him just turning coat the moment his superior says so makes sense.

>>720070991
>the movies adaptations do a poor job
They really do. It's a weird dichotomy because as a film enjoyer, I can acknowledge these movies are genuinely good films, in fact some of the best movies ever made. But they absolutely do not in any way do the books justice. They unironically needed twice the amount of films to make it work, the first movie alone should have been up until Rivendell and ended there. I know that something along those lines was Jacksons original vision, it's a shame it never happened.

I also hate how gay pilled they made gandalf. The scene of Gandalf the white returning makes me turn the movie off every time, it's so fucking stupid.
>Gay homo man flows down from the sky like an angel in a gay orgy grove in the woods vs. The party at one of it's lowest points shitting it's pants as they slowly watch some clearly powerful being make it's way up to their party from the horizon, making both them and the reader incredibly weary of what it is. He then appears as a beggar, and through the parties own deductions is revealed to be Gandalf the white

No songs was the gayest shit they could have done and shows that Jackson has no balls against retard producers. Such behaviour led to the vile dog shit that is the hobbit trilogy. Anyone who can sit through the river scene and not want to kill themselves watching one of the most tense moments of the book turned into fat man acrobatic video game combat time should be rounded up.

>>720071549
Who hurt you?

>>720071681
>Who hurt you?
My good taste in written media. Sorry I think your movies suck, Peter. The real reason for me to be annoyed is that the vast majority of people now see the films as the defacto piece of LOTR media because brown people and zoomers don't like reading books or listening to audio books even. It's sad. There's people on social media right now talking about how the books got all this stuff wrong that Peter Jackson fixed in the movies because visual slop is easier to consume than high literature. There's now also an army of movie nostalgia fags akin to star wars prequel fanatics

>>720071549
Imagine watching the fellowship become in awe that their brethren miraculously returned from the dead and all you could think about is gay sex

>>720071985
I really don't believe these people exist, and if they do, you're just getting mad at clouds as stupid people are simple a force of nature akin to the weather.

>>720072016
Ian Mckellan has on multiple occasions, with support from Jackson (although to be fair Jackson kind of laughed it off) outright stated his interpretation of gandalf as he played them in those films was a homosexual man. That's why that scene makes me think of that, because the actor playing Gandalf fully believe his character to be gay.

>>720072175
>I don't believe these people exist
I wish I could live in ignorance. I give you props for not engaging with the film fandom anywhere on the internet LOL

>>720072197

learn to separate reality from fiction and actor from character already, jesus christ
i think Patrick Stewart is a massive faggot and i can still appreciate his character roles, having divorced the man from the fiction.

>>720034354 (OP)
>the whole whirl betrays you

>>720072268
I don't know why people subject themselves to the horrors of social media. You do it to yourselves, though,

>>720071549
What the fuck is wrong with you

>>720072307
That works if it was just McKellan being gay. That's not what's being stated, The actor was not playing Gandalf the Gray. He was playing Gandalf the Gray who is gay. If McKellan played Gandalf as a schizo, or as a man who has PTSD or as a man who's lost a leg that would fundamentally affect the character in that film. That's how acting and creating a character for film works.

I love TNG and I despise stewart. I am fully able to separate the character from the actor because i understand what Stewarts fundamental character concepts are for Picard, and being a fucking retard isn't one of them. When you are watching the LOTR films, Gandalf is by design a gay wizard, and every action he makes regarding the actors way of emoting and acting out the scene has him being a wizard, being mysterious, and being gay as fundamental pillars of his character. Nice gotcha though, anon.
>>720072175
>I don't believe these types exist
I'm arguing with one of 4chan right now lol

gandalf the GAY

dont allow the faggot near the hobbit twinks, watching the movies makes me feel uncomfortable

>>720072476
go back please, and read LOTR while you're at it. There's also audio books if reading is too much for you. I'm also not homophobic, tranny.

Nothing about Ian McKellan's Gandalf comes off as gay.

>>720072997
wrong

>>720072741
you don't look like this, and what happened in that show can never happen to you in real life

>>720072997
It's hard to tell when you're gay yourself, anon. It's all good, you guys deserve gay reps in film.

>>720034836
Lisa the painful

every scene between gandalf and frodo is filled with gay one sided sexual tension, that old rapist wanted that young piece of meat and it shows

>party member betrays you
>Over 400 replies
>Ctrl+F "kr"
>Zero results
Fools

>>720073196
>slop wars
Anon.....

>>720073196
star wars is goyslop for retards, begone from the lotr thread, retard

>>720073065
I think maybe you're just projecting your own insecurities? Maybe if you were as open about it as OP, you'd be less angry?

>>720073196
She needed to fuck off!

>>720072997
His giant penis staff. The fact he only talked to the male Hobbits. The stuff he and Sauronman did off screen

>>720073256
>faggot is mad anon pointed out his obvious dick sucking tendencies
>"your insecure"
lol

>>720073196
She never technically betrays you thats why. Its about her educating you and showing you both sides of the force and how they both have faults

>>720073119
>BILBO BAGGINGS
>DO NOT TAKE ME FOR SOME SPINNER OF CHEAP CORNERS
>I AM NOT TRYING TO FUCK YOU
>I'm trying to rape you

>>720073256
When did I say i'm not gay? I'll fuck you in the ass right now you faggot. Everything I've stated about the films is correct, and the endless seethe over mentioning le gays instead of actually countering my points shows i'm factually correct.

And I always will be.

>>720072965
>>720073058
>sees gay shit everywhere
>everyone who calls me out is a tranny
Mindbroken.

>>720073440
you want to fuck little boys

>>720073360
Well. You are insecure.

>>720073440
No amount of seethe will make anything I said not factual, fagnon. Go watch your shitty movies and stroke your quivering dick to Jacksons "masterpieces" and stop ruining the stealth LOTR thread.

>>720073196
>anon turned off his monitor at the end

>>720073420
Nah. I think you're just mad that Ian McKellan decided to jump on the LGBT propaganda train and go, "oh yeth, I was TOTALLY gay as Galdalf, tehee~" that you're actually retconning what the movies were like inside of your own mind.
That's called a psychological break, and it's a sign of schizophrenia.
(i'm very smart)

>>720037645
farts

Movie Frodo sending Sam away was the stupidest shit ever and I turned off the movie right there the first time I saw it.

Also Two Towers and RotK are complete CGI slogfests. I don't even remember any memorable scene from Two Towers. RotK had the ride of the rohirrim which was cool.

>>720073607
>He jumped on the LGBT wagon
He first stated his verison of Gandalf was gay in the year 2000 in response to some hate mail he received where a bunch of people called him out for making gandalf so homosexual. Reality literally raped your schizo anime head canon. If you weren't 14 years old you'd be aware that this has been in discussion and known about for over a quarter century lmao

You prefer the films over the books. You've already lost before any anime gifs were posted, you can stop digging your own grave anon. Look at the see of mald that has spawned from the simple statement that the movies are "Not as good as the book and also gay"

>over a year of filming in New Zealand
>a shitload of practical sets and effects that fit well with the, still great-looking, CGI
Will we ever get something like this again?

>>720074036
No as everything will be computer generated

>>720073951
So basically you've been screaming about this for decades now, and even sent Ian McKellan hate mail because of your raging insecurities.

>>720067421
What happens if you use The Gay Path?

>>720074113
>Movie loving anon says something retarded and factually incorrect to derail the conversation
>I literally rape him with how incorrect he is
>"YEAH WELL UH..... YOU'RE AUTISTIC"
>Still can't prove in any way that i'm wrong or counter anything I said except by implying i'm mentally ill for noticing a gay character in a film was gay (contrary to the source material)|

You're not allowed on this site if you're not autistic, retard. Do me a favor and atleast post good anime in your gifs instead of bad moe slop.

>>720074334
You end up in /v/alinor.

>>720074412
lol

>>720074475
>/v/alinor
KEKAROOO

>>720066441
>not one (you)
I thought it was funny

>>720041967
To fuck human men

>>720074475
Fucking Valar, doing it for free!

>>720074574
Whiter AND more well fed than you, brownie. Read the books, watch good anime, and stop posting here under the age of 18 thank you saaar gangrape goodnight.

>>720071549
You're completely correct but most Tolkien """fans""" are retards who never read his writings.

>>720072741
sexo with mahiro

>>720074950
Note the pizza grease on my middle finger. This brownoid WISHES he was as white and fat as I am. Sadly, not all can be genetically gifted like myself.

>>720074950
>those fat finger and fat hand
holy SHIT fatty go on a walk

>>720074950
Based fatty putting shitskins in their place

>/v/ does lord of the rings
>the eagles take frodo to mordor so he can show the eye of sauron how hard he can piss

>>720075076
Nah, I'm gonna play more video games. I stole Ghost of Basedshitter and am playing that rn

White people also get stronger the fatter we are, when I reach 400lbs i'll be able to pop your head like a grape without leaving my chair

>>720034354 (OP)
>Gandalf the FOOL
Saruman would have gotten banned from the server for being toxic if he did that today

>>720067249
what did 11 year old you think about it ?

>>720070336
That's not why he became weaker. He became weaker on an individual level because he poured most of his power into Arda, rather than keeping it within himself. Orcs, werewolves, dragons, diseases, blights, dangerous weather, choking fogs, and greatest of all the evil in men's hearts. Morgoth wove himself and his evil nature into the fabric of the world and that's why he was diminished on an individual level. And even though he got btfo, he quite literally won anyway. Even if the orcs were routed, all the balrogs slain, and Sauron was defeated, evil persists and the shadow of Morgoth's legacy will never go away until the next Ainulindule.

>>720075169
>Sauron's face when

gay

games for this feel?

>>720074950
God damn, I really pissed you off, huh?

>>720042575
read the book faggot
massive gargoyle statues would've orbital cannon'd them down
suicide mission for both the eagles and the hobbits
maybe if gandalf was a muslim jihadi he would've sent them down that path, but thankfully he is Catholic

>>720036814
I thought it was because he got stabbed by a cursed ringwraith sword and the wound kept fucking him up

>>720075319
there are no games or devs (aside from rdr2-era rockstar) that could make a faithful middle-earth game.

>>720075339
Post hand saars, you won't
Read the books saars, you won't
Stop posting on 4chan underage saars, you won't

>>720065161
fuck you loser
the Bible literally tells you why
Earth is governed by Satan
You don't know whether something is good or not unless it actively chooses it of their own volition. Or you can be a saruman little faggot and choose whatever best suits you presently, disavowing all companionship

>>720075537
>feathers

>>720037209
>>720042575
I swear the eagles are the ultimate midwit filter. The trip to mordor was a stealth mission, which is why they only sent 9 people originally.
Even the big fight at the end is just a distraction to buy more time, hence the "for frodo" line.

>>720075260
>Just Who the Hell do You think I am!
>Row Row Fight Da Power.
Yeah nah.

>>720034354 (OP)
Be honest /v/ have you read the books? I _____haven't

>>720075936
No, maybe I should audiobook them at work. Thats the only way it would happen.

>>720038019
That dude stayed behind when a bunch of the crew left around Christmas time to spend his break working on that scene. On the one hand it sucks that he had to make that sacrifice. On the other hand, that scene is really fucking awesome and it probably wouldn't be nearly as good if he hadn't done it.

>>720065101
I missed the part in the book where there was unlimited eagles, what chapter was that?