Thread 720079379

Unironically the hardest game I've ever played, and I finished Castlevania 3 without save stating

>>720079379 (OP)
Castlevania 3 isn't that hard.
Now Ninja Gaiden 3 (NES)...

actually don't play that, it's legitimately not a good game. 1 and 2 (NES) are god-tier though.

>>720079478
did you play cv3 or akumajou densetsu?
because the latter really isn't any hard

Its not that hard its just annoying to play.

>>720079646
NES Castlevania 3. Never owned, rented it 2 or 3 times from the local video store.

The runback to the last judge is fucking retarded. It was insanely unfun and soured an otherwise great boss for me.

That runback isnt even hard, its just fucking awful, one mistake and your taking 2-3 fucking points of damage right before a boss that does 2 damage of EVERYTHING. What the flying fuck is this retarded shit.

>>720079658
no, it's hard

>>720079878
>use tool
>win boss fight easily on first try
Why are frog posters so retarded

>>720079975
I don't mind hard if its fair. But the level design in Skong is just annoys me with constant backtracking while evading flying units chasing you everywhere.

>>720080054
its not the fucking boss. Why are you so retarded?

>>720079379 (OP)
Castlevania 3 isn't that hard, you have to at least be Battletoads level masochistic for that to be a decent claim.

>>720080251
But it takes 15 seconds to get to the boss from the last bench, there are like 4 whole enemies in the way. This is what happens when you waste all your time playing shitty rpgs and piss easy "retro games" instead of real video games.

>>720080054
where did you get the boomerang

>>720080481
There's a hidden wall in the moss area with a vendor behind it if you break it

>>720080408
again, not the issue, its the fact those enemies are fucking retarded flying faggots that shoot more retarded flying faggot shit while the stupid faggot worms do x2 damage.

Leading to a boss that you really cant take many hits from after phase 1. Its a great boss, a SHIT runback. remove the fucking faggot fly faggot shooters and its perfectly fine, or just get rid of fucking x2 environmental damage.

This isnt even a git gud or pissing contest thing, its legit just not great level design because the game was playtested by 3 fucking people for SEVEN YEARS.

>>720080684
You can just dash past everything. You're just bad lol

Im ok with the difficulty but i hate the soulslike run back to bosses. Every boss should have a bench on the room immediately before.

>>720080738
>just don't play the game
fantastic game design

>>720080481
The vendor's in hunter's march

I really want to like this game. But everything is designed to annoy you. Every single design choice. All of them. Even shit that is cool conceptually, is ruined by the stupid fucking design choices. Take the Clockwork Dancers for example, this fight is really cool conceptually and is mostly executed well. The problem is, like all bosses, running back is miserable depending on your bench. Not only that, but every attempt requires you to watch them wind up 4 times and they take a lot of damage in every phase. This causes a pretty cool fight to become a slog and miserable if you have to repeat it. Why? For what? "Difficulty"? Decisions like these plague the entire game, and it's getting harder for me to say I like it.

>>720079379 (OP)
It's the shitty kind of difficult. Not the fun "learn the fight and you're good" type of difficult. The "execute flawlessly during a 5 minute stretch or waste hours" type of difficult.

The only fight I had remotely any fun doing was Widow. That fight looked super hectic but was actually incredibly fair and rewarded you for learning patterns.

>>720080573
>>720083495
he's dead

>>720079878
I didn't like the runback for last judge either but it was not as shit as you're making it out to be.

>>720080684
It's really not that bad you should be used to everything being ass and doing 2 mask damage at this point.

>>720083056
And not punish a player who is already struggling by wasting their time? I think not.

>>720084964
Still in act 1 and Widow was very good. Chorus was alright and Lace I'm sort of mixed on but that might be because I lucked out instead of learning it maybe. I think every other boss is a thing that brings in a bunch of other things, very shit.

>>720085079
rip

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>>720087186
is there srsly no way to get the boomerang now

The difficulty isn't that bad, but the boss run to the Last Judge is inexcusable.

>add an earlygame charm which disables most if not all double damage, but reduces your healing to 1 mask
There, at least half of the backlash goes away.

>>720079379 (OP)
It's too hard for me, I'm not enjoying it. Almost feels like one of those troll games that used to be popular back in the day, like boshi etc.

>makes you take damage before reaching the boss
fuck hornet gon' do?

>>720087386
I always did that super fast, maybe I played too celeste

Like 95% of all platformers back in the 90s were harder than silksong
You couldn't cool pogos and air dashes and parries and shit to dab on the enemies
Zoomers are way too coddled, their brain has been rotted by challenge-less AAA games that play themselves like assassin's creed and uncharted, it's sad to see that the competency crisis is even reaching video game players now

>>720087386
Man y'all are ass at video games that runback isn't that bad

>>720079878
Bad news is its not even the worst runback.

Sands of Karak and Bilewood even WITH shortcuts are horrendous. I had to look up the hidden chair which is bullshit by the way.

>>720087793
There is no point for a long runback before a challenging boss. It's always been the dumbest part of soulslikes.

>>720087758
not really, silksong is easily one of the hardest games i've played and i've played a lot of NES and SNES platformers in my days. you're so fucking cringe

>>720087959
Nice try lil zoom

>going from 5 masks to 6 changes nothing because everything deals 2 damage and you still die in 3 hits regardless
seven years in development

>>720088276
Literally all they had to do was make contact damage 1 and not have every single boss regardless of importance do 2 damage. The tutorial bosses in HK didnt do 2 damage its bonkers.

two points of contact damage award

>>720088276
The problem with people saying git good is they don't understand that it's literally shit design and not just that it's hard
It's like a shitty rom hack

>>720087758
>Like 95% of all platformers back in the 90s were harder than silksong
Lmao. Either you never played them or you were a retarded 6 year old back then so you don't remember them well. Not even NES were that difficult on average, let alone SNES and PS1/N64 games.
>their brain has been rotted by challenge-less AAA games that play themselves like assassin's creed and uncharted
90% of /v/ hasn't played either of those, most of the people complaining are probably Soulsfags if anything. And Uncharted on the highest difficulty is actually hard as shit, although in a bullshit way.

>>720079379 (OP)
Bro Castlevania 3 is the ONLY retro game I've beaten without savestating.

>>720088845
liar

It's wild how many people are just shit at video games. The last judge sequence is a bit of an obstacle but the fact so many people are complaining non-stop about it just really shows how absolutely casual the typical video game enjoyer is in 2025. I'm glad the game had as much hype as it did because it's fun seeing this many people get absolutely called out.

>>720087758
you can tell its true based on the seethe generated

>>720088930
Unironically they will patch Bilewater by reducing enemies or adding another bench. The 1st game had patches that drastically changed its gameplay. They could patch any zone in Silksong.

>>720088930
I'm also glad it's so over hyped too because it's fun seeing people cope about how shit the game really is when they were treating it like the second coming

>forces you to stay at a distance
>does an attack you can't see the startup of from offscreen

Why does every boss take 50+ hits

What does that do for the greater good

>>720088831
Go play ghosts n goblins then try silksong again and tell me which game is harder fucking retard
Besides babby's first platformer (mario / sonic), all the ones made in the 80s and 90s were designed to aggressively waste your time and/or coins at the arcade by throwing complete bullshit at you and having you restart the whole level if not the whole game for the privilege of trying again
Don't speak to me when you've never touched an old school platformer without save states faggot

>>720089473
Dont worry even with a level 3 needle that i busted my ass to upgrade i still cant one shot the armored bug roly polys. What is the point of damage upgrades then.

>>720088930
This holy shit, never seen so many shitters before. Most of them are from dumbasses missing obvious shortcuts like the one in Karak

>>720089473
im in act 1 but the only boss that felt like that was the vomit one at the top of bone bottom, but that is an exceptionally slow boss

>>720089624
>ghosts n goblins
That's a game from 1985, you brain rotted retard. And yeah, it's not that hard. The only hard enemy in the entire game is the red devils and you get checkpoints every minute.

>>720089635
>can't one shot
fucking good.
i was sick of enemies in hk1
turning out to be just obstacles in the endgame, made me zone out when grabbing every last grub/collectible

>>720079379 (OP)
you need to play more genres

so I just finished sinner's road - I got the npc, the simple lock, both benches, and I freed the tall bug... am I missing any secrets or am I good to leave?

>>720089952
skull tyrant takes way too many hits for how simple of an enemy it is

>>720080408
>tranny who tried to brag about shitclears in batrider and fucking mushi
begone shitter faggot.

>Have to switch to White Palace parkour mode just to fix Sinner's Road shitty bench
Why are there so many damn spikes and swinging spiked chains in this damn city??

>>720090753
the sequence isn't too hard and it was pretty novel imo

>hurr its good because its difficult.
>hurr difficulty is the only measure of a game.
Christ you lot are insufferable. Difficulty is not a good thing on its own. You want a reflex challenge? Go play the original simon toy from the 80s(?). You want a game that requires you to be precise? Go play that meme "simulator" game where you flick solo cups onto eachother from across the room. They're both way "harder" than sliksong is, and you can waste as much time as you want playing them.

Difficulty is used by good games to create escalating challenges that reward the player for engaging with deeper mechanics with a sense of accomplishment. Those games have to earn that difficulty by having those deep mechanics in the first place. Just having every other enemy deal double damage right out of the gate isn't deep, its not complex, its lazy. Making enemies require twitch reflexes early enough in the game that your only options are jump, attack, and jump then attack isn't either, and making them take 3x as many hits as their equivalents in the original is a fucking joke.

>git gud
I'll git gud when the reward for doing so isn't just more fights and platforming that are even more of a chore than the current one is

>>720087758
Now watch you won't name any because you don't actually play them so you have no idea.

As someone who has dozens of no death runs in retro games, and regular beats them on original hardware, no, retro games by and large are nowhere even near as hard as Silksong.

>>720087381
I just went up to the northmost room in hunters march and it was in there behind two flying ant soldiers.

>Forcing the player to do delicate flower 2.0 to upgrade your weapon damage
>This is only 1 part of the quest too

Its comical that my tool damage is 4 right now while my needle damage is 3 so im spamming poison kunais and poison drones. The devs are retards for making mask shards and needle upgrades so sparse.

>>720090824
It's un-novel when you have one life leading up to it because you took a dip into maggot city getting up to the thing.

>>720090627
There's two NPCs in a room that give you a sidequest to collect roach guts

>>720084137
>fight sister splinter
>has a gorillion hp
>doesnt do anything
>summons two heatseeking blenders that can parry everything you do
>fight suddenly becomes hard
>fight beastfly
>barely does anything
>summons flying blenders that can parry you
>fight suddenly becomes hard
I swear to fuck if widow starts summoning ads I'm uninstalling this shit

>>720090629
which one was that again? the ant thing?

>>720090835
filtered

>>720085079
If he's dead can you no longer get the boomerang or the tool for an extra mask? What the fuck.

>Shortcut in Sands of Sarak doesnt make the boss runback any less tedious

Team Cherry really liked dark souls 2

>>720084137
The runback to the Cogwork Dancers is a single hallway you tremendous faggot.

>>720089952
>>720090629
I just ran from him, do you get anything for killing it?

>>720091243
The charging bug in the marrow that you get a quest for in bone bottom

>>720091101
any idea where it is on the map?

>>720090895
You can get one pale oil without doing the courier delivery.
But it really isn't that hard, I do suggest finding the super dash charm first though.

>Mottled Skar is dead
>you can no longer get Fractured Mask but you can get Curveclaw
Team Cherry is a bunch of retards.

>nail upgrades
first one, bought it
second one, found it in the clock area with the pushing blocks
where are the other two?

People are pissed about beastfly meanwhile the enemy gauntlet in High Halls is just total nonsense cause they forgot to design bosses for this game so lets spam gauntlets.

>>720091439
It's at the top of the oddly shaped room to the right of the narrow one with the key cage in it

Honestly the biggest gut punch for me in this game is the one thing I know they're not going to change or fix and that's the music. HK was filled with bangers and beautiful music. This game is either silent or just AI background noise and its sadly gonna keep it at a 8/10 permanently even when they fix the difficulty.

Dung Defender is still rent free in my head and the City of Tears song is when i realized HK was very special. SS is just a soulless boss rush with artificial difficulty up the ass. I remember I used to purposely lose to bosses and the original game just so I could hear the song more, in this one once I beat a boss Im never going to fight it again because it was insufferable.

https://youtu.be/lkgHqBl12Cg?si=3cYH-NTkFtxgYZ3T

>>720091547
i thought you needed double jump to get in there or something? the hole looked like you couldn't get up it

>>720091439
In the top right corner of the bigger room that's to the right of the tall middle room.

>>720091537
That one is difficult if you go there immediately, but it's one part of three melodies, so just do other stuff first. Upgrade your needle, find more masks and silk...

honestly at this point i'm fucking done with hard games. i've beat enough souls games now, not every game needs to be a pointless sweatfest, let's have some actual game BALANCING now please

>>720091589
I think you're thinking of a different spot, you can get to the quest NPCs with just the dash and float

>>720091530
Third one: Get the food to the guy in the food hall of the capital.
Fourth one: Fleas.

Theres no protection against maggot poop water in this game is there

Unironically if there isnt then it will be patched in cause its insufferable

>>720091796
There is, you can find charm for it.

>>720079379 (OP)
why would you need to save state in CV3

>>720091845
So where the fuck is it ive been in every zone except memorium.

>The second Savage Beastfly fight
Holy fucking shit that was bad, fuck those flying shits.

>>720091887
I believe it's close to the Organ? So the other entrance to the maggotshithole.

>>720091914
Hot take. I think the second fight (over the lava) is actually easier since there's more room to maneuver, and the boomerangs don't get stuck in the wall as easily, so you can get bunch of multi-hits in.

i'm thinking its better than the original

>>720087758
There are a few famous ones like Battle Toads, NES Ninja Turtles, NG, etc, but the fact that they're so famous implies that being difficult wasn't that common.

>can grab you pin you and take out 2 points of life
>has better reflexes then most sentient bugs in the actual game
>can lunge fifty feet towards you, climb up walls towards you and run 100 mph
I hate these bastards.

>>720092096
Time to start jumping white boy

>>720091283
Sure am. Game is bad, and I stopped playing it.

>>720092096
It's all about the poison traps

>>720092096
Honestly dont even engage them and use tools especially kunais and drones

>>720091691
>flees
where do you even get the next quests after the group moves the first time?

>>720092035
It absolutely would be if it wasn't for the little lava spewing shits, the part where summons two on opposites sides was infuriating.
The funny thing was that just like the first fight, my winning attempt was just going ham on the boss as much as possible and using all the thread I could on attacks.
I don't understand why people have so much trouble understanding his charging attack, it's just him aiming at you.

>>720079379 (OP)
Really? I tried the first one and it was so easy it seemed like it was made for kids. Maybe I should try this one

>>720091626
fr fr

>>720091537
>beastfly
Was hard for me since dealing with the adds were a pain in the ass. Needing to hit them 3+ times to kill them while dodging the boss and any other adds makes for a hectic time

>>720092418
>drones
bro this isn't the ukranian front, what fucking drones are you talking about

>>720079379 (OP)
This game is not hard, all of you are so unbelievably fucking bad.

>>720092490
Citadel has a hidden drone tool that costs 1 craft metal

>>720091392
anon... you've doomed them all

>>720092431
You don't actually get a new quest, rather you just need to keep finding them. Fleas moving third time is required for the Act 3, by the way... but you don't need to find anywhere near all of them for that.

>>720092443
The way I handled the adds was by immediately getting rid of them with the silk attack that strikes all around you. It comes out quickly enough, and expending bit of silk is small price to pay to stop them from making the fight miserable.

>>720092629
i keep finding them all over the place, not sure how many I need.. I must have found at least 10 since it moved initially

>>720084137
This. The fight for the Widow had you playing fucking Mario literally every time you ran back to her room. Even Shart Souls wasn't this retarded with its bonfire placements.

Fourth Chorus was my favorite fight cause I liked that spectacle of it. I rank it:
Fourth Chorus>Last Judge>Widow>Sister Splinter>Morrowind>Bell Beast>Lace

So what does saving the Green Prince do?

>>720092818
Kek. This was literally me during the prison escape when she was naked.

>>720092879
He shows up later in places and talks a bit. I haven't seen anything else yet.

>>720079379 (OP)
Yeah this game is hard as balls but I'm still addicted to it.

>>720079878
The runback is only that long because the last judge is a easy fucking boss. Like its incredibly easy especially if you equip the Magma Bell.

So someone said if you want the cursed ending, you have to not have the curse cured. What does that entail? Where do you even get cursed?

Is it too early to say this is the game that exposed /v/ babies the hardest? Even elden ring wasn't nearly this bad.