Thread 720498503

We discuss the game

First!!! :D

Act 2 is anti-comfy so far

Did Hornet actually get her rags taken off?

contact damage is so beyond retarded

>>720498687
Yes, there is an event where that happens, but you will not necessarily see it, it's kinda random.

Homosexual Bug Dancers is unironically my favourite boss fight so far. Fucking brilliant theme, balance, pacing, and even has a bittersweet ending. Second so far is Widow, then Last Judge. There are some fucking bangers in this game.

Glad I'm done with this piece a shit. What a slog and an overall downgrade to Hollow Knight in every aspect, including combat.

>>720498503 (OP)
how the fuck am I supposed to save sing bug in act 2 sidequest with the stupid morticians and little to zero space to move around them? Im dying there more than on judge and dancers

>>720498762
It would be fine if enemies didn‘t also randomly dash or jump without wind-up

Can i die in the dream bosses on steel soul like i can in hollow knight or not?

>>720498890
>58 hours 100%
Bro, I am at 47 hours in act 2...

>>720498869
Everyone was too busy seething about the fight(idk why desu) but I really like Moorwings theme.

Widow's second phase is breaking me
might be the end of me playing

>>720498921
>Get hit for two damage
>Dash away to reposition
>Enemy/boss jumps to the exact position I dashed to with no warning and does two more damage

>>720498503 (OP)
wish double jump cloak actually changed hornets cloak to resemble the menu pic

close enough

>>720499251
It's the exact same moves as before but now she can attack you while bells are still dropping, it's hectic but not as hard as it seems

EAT SHIT SETH
>Still have two more to go
Fuck

>>720499584
Bounce is probably the easiest one because you can't get as fucked with rng and getting impossible patterns as the other two.

>>720499563
bells are coming from all angels, you move a little a bell hits from an angle and then she does her scissor move and another bell hits

Jesus christ shaman crest is broken but there's no bosses to use it on by the time it's unlocked.

I loved the first sinner, it was a kino fight, and I almost missed it.

>>720499708
The juggle one is fucking impossible. you need to get at least 56 and I never got more than 40

What do I need to start Mount Fay? Finished the Slab but the ledge to get up and continue into it is too high.

Anything I should go out of my way for in act 3 that quest boards and main story won't take me to? Don't feel like scraping the entire map again to see if anything new appeared.

>>720500105
The grapple hook

>>720498503 (OP)
>Comfy Silksong Thread
Not on my watch

I hated lost lace, literally the boss that took me the most attempts. Great game though, a few things were annoying but as a 33 year old boomer it's not expected that I can blaze through games anymore

>>720498909
overdose on lifeblood via architect crest
spam tacks
spam cogfly
every arena fight is now fucking trivial

>>720500105
Clawline. Go beat Trobbio and take the elevator after him.

Tacks are now my favourite tool. Incredibly fucking good, this plus Sting Shards and Pollip feels busted. Zero downtime on damage for every single room.

>>720500248
how do you guys 100% so fast, it took me like 70 hours, I'm just bad I guess

>>720500287
You don‘t need to fight trobbio to get it

>>720498921
i was just about to mention that
keep fucking getting hit because enemies and bosses jump without fucking any fucking tell

>>720500240
Is Hornet a mom?

I got a pristine core from the corpse of the architect robot.
I'm probably not ever using it for the scales, but I'm curious if he really is the last one.
Getting Old Stag vibes.

Architect life blood regen is such an overpowered build yet I haven't seen anyone talking about it.
Like you get regen forever , any bosses that give you breathing room is trivial , arena can't stop you , even bosses you arent suppose to heal in can't you.

sinner's road was a nightmare and at the end there was only some kind of creature in the ceiling. what do i do with him?

>>720500240
Hag bug erotic…

>>720500374
But I want him to die

>>720499717
You can actually hit the bells away from you, and if you have the silk storm move you can use it in a pinch as a shield because of this.

>Died to another enemy gauntlet in Steel Mode
I swear to god, those are ten times harder than any boss in this game.

>>720500428
wish there were more interactions between crests and charms and tools

TROBBIO!

Can I do normal ending, then cursed ending, then true ending, or do I have to do cursed before everything else?

Whoever came up with this nigger enemy and this series of rooms is one sick FUCK

>>720500240
>Listen close, listen hard
>The tale of Hornet Silkregarde
>This public bike, she sees no wrong
>In takin', takin', takin', takin', takin', takin', every dong!

>Takin', takin', every dong
>Takin', takin', every dong
>Takin', takin', takin', takin', takin', takin', every dong

>Her blown-out butthole flaps away!
>Her cunt gets wider every day!
>'Til, when she tries a human dude
>His BIG WHITE COCK rips her in two
>And that is why we plow her arse
>What's left of Hornet Silkregarde

>(Who's) Takin', takin', every dong
>Takin', takin', every dong
>Takin', takin', takin', takin', takin', takin', every dong
>Takin', takin', every dong
>Takin', takin', every dong

>>720500895
That's a valid way of getting the endings.

>>720500896
I agree this enemy sucks but you didn't even try to avoid or deflect that

>>720500896
you'll have to fight 3 of them in a tight arena next , good luck anon.

>>720500896
It gets worse in Act 3. :^)

start min maxing your build now if you want to have fun , there is no place for casual in silksong.

>>720501171
True. Once i got the wanderers crest the game became much more fun because i could actually get easy hits in

>>720501035
Yeah I reached the arena and takes a fuckload of time on its own because it takes too long to kill these fucks without taking damage

Mah

Most crest are good for something , I'm on act 2.
Architect -> regen
Wanderer -> classic hk/dps
Hunter -> also dps gl with diagonal pogo tho
Beast -> dogshit don't use this

>>720501324
Those are fine. It‘s these pieces of shit that are annoying. Thankfully they die to 1 silkspear

trying to have fun with my flea friends
grandma keeps having a fucking melty in the hole
shut up bitch, I'm bouncing on fleas

>>720501324
She cute

>>720500896
The worst part about these is that you can't see shit after their bomb explodes, it feels unintended

>>720501171
>min maxing
This isn't an RPG, just change out your loadout whenever you want.

What affects how much the moss druid pays for berries? Is it when you find them or how long it takes to deliver them?

>>720500848
if you combine multibinder with the mirrors you deal AoE damage twice, not sure if the damage is also doubled tho

>>720501516
Fuck these cunts.

>>720501419
>Architect
>regen
Architect has character without the gimmick
it's the crest that is able to do double damage using charged attacks (including the pogo)
people are really sleeping on it's regular combat

I ran out of shards wtf. Where is the preem shard farming spot in act 2?

>>720501324
>>720501516
harpoonbait

dying in two hits and having to the entire runback to that judge cunt is ruining the flow of the game

>>720501704
treat it like one or you're going to suffer alot.

>>720501848
You guys actually use tools?

>>720501848
don't ever try to farm shards, farm beads and buy shard bundles

>>720501890
What does this even mean? I already beat act 3. What are you on about?

>>720501802
Architect does 20% more damage , with lvl 2 nail it does 10 + 1 + 1, the big ass drill is good for poking bosses though but the main gimmick is recharging tools by extension allowing you regen and play like a summoner with 500 rapefly

>>720501885
Just jump over the enemies. It takes less than 30 seconds.

I've posted the following to the official website as well as the forums so hopefully this gets patched in soon.

PSA: [ and ] are secret binds for next and prev menu.

>>720502059
those fucking fly niggers that shoot the red spikes keep fucking sniping me

I ended up entering act 2 through the hidden route, do I miss out on anything by not going back and killing Last Judge?

Nigga playing on keyboard

Last boss for 100% steel soul completion.
Even - seth
Odds - verdania

is the rosary cannon still bugged?

>>720501971
Okay then, where's the preem bead farming spot in Act 2? I got one that's decent in act 1 near the Marrow bellway station but if there's better options now then I'd love to hear it.

>>720502025
>play like a summoner with 500 rapefly
You're gonna run out of shards in like a single fight or two if you actually do this.

>>720502152
oh no

after playing so long with only the float, the double jump taking priority over floating is REALLY fucking up my muscle memory for platforming

>>720502234
I hate the hover ability. It‘s kinda awkward to use

>>720502180
I do this route

>>720502171
In what way was (is) it bugged?

>>720502194
I set up a macro to farm rosaries
it is now at 5000
I will never suffer again

>>720502276
it's great for floating over or down spike paths or onto platforms with more control than dashing. I'm trying to do the timed platforming in the red sand area and I'm constantly eating shit because I'm trying to extend my airtime by floating but the double jump going first is throwing me off

>>720498687
Yes. After a certain point (wall jump I think), an enemy spawns in a few regions with a cage weapon. If they hit you with the capture move, you get sent to prison and lose your equipment. You miss the scenario if you kill all of them or find a key in a late area.

>>720502438
They should have just assigned it to lb since you can‘t open the map in the air anyways but what do i know

I think bosses where you take most of your damage from contact damage via them randomly jumping or sidestepping rather than from their actual attacks are badly designed.

>>720502485
I want to lick her tiny black body :(

>>720502171
Nope in works for me now.
>>720502409
It wouldn't reload and the bench. I'm about to be using it for the first time right now.

>>720502125
Bait the first one out and then run past it. I don't even remember the second one.

>>720502347
How many beads/minute? I'll give it a shot and time if if you don't know.

>>720502485
When Hornet jumps down and breaks the neck of the big fly wearing her dress

>>720501885
Just do this, anon.

>>720498595
It's just a lot. There's like 2 or three spaces between Last Judge and Clockwork Dancers where they could've put a boss, and the entire thing is so massive and sprawling that they may well have and I just missed them.
The wish system is what's killing me here. Fucking spent two hours running around greymoor because I thought the shit piles were for tracking the savage beastfly. Turns out they were for pill.

>>720502234
It took me a long time to adjust and every now and then I still get fucked by it like when you have to drift through a spike corridor and end up jumping into the top spikes. I can’t really think of a better way to have both options without something else becoming frustrating though. Being able to bind float to a backpaddle would be nice but honestly with how rarely it becomes a big issue I understand why the devs didn’t worry about it.

>>720502409
Same. I just dash attack + followup hit and Counter their attack. Melts them with max focus on Hunter

>>720500019
Anon I got like 70 on my first try, didn't you play Fire growing up?

>>720502636
Sexy as fuck move

>>720499272
everytime. i dont fucking get it

>>720502552
Your dash is super fast and almost instantaneous and can distance you from pretty much any boss movement in the game if you're not in their face mashing like an ape.

>>720502574
>in
>and
*it *at
What am I dyslexic today?

>bad swamp level
>into worse swamp level
>into the most sadistically designed sewer level ever

I was going to start playing but I see they made the game easier, is there a way to download the first version of the game?

>>720502768
The bosses jumping or sidestepping is actually instantaneous.

>>720502794
>but the ledge to get u
The entirety of the right side of the map can fuck off, literally nothing good happens in that part of the map.

>>720502089
Godspeed anon. Thank you. That is pretty fucking annoying.
>PSA: [ and ] are secret binds for next and prev menu.
Oh motherfucker

>found 4 spells thus far
>all of them have been shit
>parry is probably the best of them but it's still shit, barely does any damage and just serves as an expensive panic button
eh i hate what they did with magic and the entire healing/soul system
complete downgrade

is rosary cannon good ?

>>720502868
I haven't even found the map for the ducts yet.

>>720500896
>the reward for all this trouble is one fucking flea

can't believe you guys have beat this already when I'm 50 hours in and still in act 2

>>720502649
This is how I've been doing every runback for this boss and I was wondering what everybody's issue was, what path have they been taking?

>Unravelled stagger scream "freezes" Hornet and makes her fall to the ground where she is
>I was mid dashing over him so I fell into his staggered body and took damage

Fuck contact damage

>>720503015
Architect supremacy
>Hive heart(but better)
>3 tool slots (to rape anyone that dare to look at hornet)
>Big ass drill (to further expand the raped hole)

>>720503110
Go at your own pace, Anon.

>>720503070
requires double jump and a hidden entrance from another hidden entrance.

>>720503076
>gauntlet rewards you with a fucking flea
>boss battle against brothers gives a memory conch or something
Terrible segment

>>720502843
Bosses have tells whenever they're about to move. Stop whining and pay attention.

>>720503110
You gotta rush all the movement upgrades first and you can clean up areas much faster

>>720503110
I finished act 3 with over 60 hours. Don't worry about it. Hope you're enjoying the game.

>>720503203
Actually adding to this, don't be like me and not going to the Mt. Fay the moment you get the grapplehook. I wish I played the majority of the act 2 with double jump.

>>720503015
Nigga I was hard carried through half the game by silk storm, the fuck are you doing?

>>720503201
>Bosses have tells whenever they're about to move.
If only that were true. Bosses have tells for attacks, not for moving.

>>720502829
Find the unpatched GOG installer. You'll be missing some bug fixes too though. Game is still much harder than Hollow Knight even with the (minor) nerfs.

>>720503110
Doesn't matter, I am also at 47 hours, I could have finished 25 hours ago, but I want to see as much as possible, since I will probably not revisit the game for a long time.

>>720503364
Silk storm is a complete GARBAGE compared to what tools can do
Lighting rod deals huge aoe damage and can be used diagonally from range for example

Do I need to do all the bullshit courier side quests for the 100% completion? Idk why they decided to turn this idea into an entire subtype of quests when everyone hated the one you had to do in HK.

>>720502649
>40 seconds wasted

I want to see what a 'good' Nyleth fight looks like because I just pogoed her once whenever she crossed the arena. It took like 10 full minutes but was the easiest and safest fight in the game.

>>720503194
I found the hidden entrance, I need more details

>>720503545
you can cheese those garbage quests by killing all enemies alongside the trail without resting and then coming back
absolute and utter unfun slog

>>720503463
>Lighting rod
Doko?

>>720503626
>killing all enemies alongside the trail
All three of them?

>>720503578
She has a massive hitbox so any multi-hitting tool should end the fight pretty quickly. Conchutter (the red horn projectile) hits her like 12 times.

>>720503647
It's in the memorium or whatever it was called
Shoots a rod into the ground, explodes in a vertical aoe shortly after
Can be thrown into water so it instantly triggers and electrocutes everything in range
You can also change the mode to bolas but i didn't play around with it

>>720503578
I did the same except instead of a pogo I drilled the top of her skull, it did not take 10 minutes I'll tell you that.

Holy shit I did it, now only the juggle shit is left. Gimme your energy /v/ros

>>720498503 (OP)
makes me wonder how many of you are leftist antifa faggots that need to be purged from society

After playing both hollow knight games i still don‘t understand the point of having no map until you buy it from the map dude

Is the skill you get from beating the first sinner even good?

ok, I give up, how do I access shaman crest?

WHERE IS IT!!!!

>>720504168
It's probably the worst skill in the game.

>>720504259
Super jump in snail cave

>>720504286
There are 2 in whiteward

>>720504259
In the shaman den. You have to be in act 3, just making sure you know that at least.

Has anyone found sharp yet or is he really not there?

>>720504393
where's the harpin the whiteward

>>720503565
If it works, it works.

>>720504524
the one you're missing requires the ability to go straight up

Okay bros, I need some spoiler free hints
I just made it to act 3 for the first time. I made my way down to Verdania, somewhat by accident. I have already visited plenty of npcs to hear their dialogue, like Shakra, The Architect and Vaultkeeper, and have fought the Bell Eater.
Is there any other major area I should revisit before heading down to Moss Grotto?

oh ok. I guess fuck me then. No enemies in a square mile drops rosaries. I have to walk two zones over, just to grind some rosaries.
The flying enemies in this zone suck too. Some of the most infuriating flying patterns yet. And that's saying something in a game full of infuriating fliers.

How many of you use the Snail crest?

>>720504668
Nuu can nudge you somewhere, if you want to know directly or she doesn't give you the dialogue: something stirs in Wormways.

>>720504691
I was in the same position
There should be enough in the zone if you havent explored it all already

>>720504832
There's only one spot I haven't checked. I'm going there now on my way back out.

>>720504691
Brosis, your necklaces? Your anal beads?

>>720504828
Ahh, thank you
But I also meant if there was any area I should revisit besides the "important stuff" just to see changes
Like I have checked out High Halls, The Choral Chambers, Greymoor, The Slab, etc

>>720498503 (OP)
I beat the whole game and I still don't understand why silk was trying to bring all the weaver spawn to pharloom or how that lightfly manages to temporarily break the seal on hornet's cage at the beginning of the game

>>720502607
When I tried it, it was around 100/min, but it depends on how fast you kill the big dudes.

Physical release when

I killed Groal the Gay with poisoned cogflies and the cheese-strat.
And I am not sorry.

You have the worst runback in the game, even including the hidden bench.
You have the mandatory arena fight just before him.
And you have the potential to be blocked from healing at any point.
This is not a boss that deserves the effort of beating it fairly. This is a boss that in all honesty deserved me simply downloading an invincibility mod and killing it at entirely at my own pace, and not doing that was more respect than it deserved.

What an absolute pile of shit of a boss, in every way.

>>720504832
>>720504904
ok, I found a 30 string. In addition to the 30 string I'm already carrying, that will put me over. But no cash for the bench. I'll still have to travel out and grind.
Though it really feels like I'm missing something in this zone.

>>720498503 (OP)
got the first act 2 ending after 23.5 hours. didnt find any bosses hard yet (everything but savage beastflys first fight took me 5 tries or less). that high halls arena people complained about was so fucking fun

>>720504691
This is what it feels like to be a troglodyte who smashes their bead necklaces the second they pick them up.

>>720504410
thank fuck you told me, I'm still in act2

>>720498503 (OP)
game is dogshit

i'm playing hollow knight and have no one to discuss it with

>>720505124
>hidden bench.
what hidden bench?

>>720504691
>This far and still doesn't have bead necklaces saved up for emergencies like this
RETARD ALERT!

>>720505306
The one that is hidden.

>>720505271
just write here, nobody cares about the distinction

>>720505271
Everyone here played hollow knight. Just post the stuff you wanna talk about

Is there a point to play against loddie after winning the neckless throwing pins, or is it just an endless mode?

>>720504660
i have that just tell me the exact location

>>720505041
You can definitely do faster than 100/min with the thief's pin which makes each big dude drop 50+

Do these guys even spawn anymore in act 3?

>>720505487
It's exactly 55 and if you fight all 5 of them it's easy money
t. grinded 3k+ there today
With the wanderers crest + grindles charm + the thorn ring for bonus damage and the parry you can kill each of them in like 5 seconds and make 1 trip at minute

How do I get to Act 3? I've killed Silk and the game just ended.

>>720505487
Yeah, I didn't have that equipped, but looking at it as an early act 2 run, the rate is still pretty good.

>>720505685
You've been too uncaring, be a better bug.

>>720502552
>stagger a boss
>it sends him upwards, dealing unexpected and unavoidable contact damage
some shit is really lame

>>720505604
yeah you have to beat their boss first

>>720505604
just finished their entry, for me it was here

>>720505685
Do more content.

>>720505181
Not true at all. I only broke them when I wanted to open a bell way, bench, or buy something from a shop. I had a 30 string on my already, but that only puts me up to 90.

>>720505308
I spent my last big necklace on the item that amplifies the playing of my needolin. I've been so desperate this whole game for the needolin to matter. To do something special. There were a few spots I wanted to try the amplified needolin on. But unfortunately, the amplification didn't change anything. If I'm guilty of anything, it's wanting to discover some interesting secrets. But I guess I'm not far enough for the needolin amplification to matter yet.

where this nigga spawn?

Are Shadow Creepers the only reused enemy from Hollow Knight in this game?

>>720506034
marrows

>>720505960
Wait, there a fucking transition from Sinner Road to Greyhome there all along?

>>720506036
theres also wingmoulds

>>720506034
Bonegrave, west of Bone bottom and the ruined chapel

>>720506168
oh I was hitting bonegrave, he didnt show up

Barbed Wire doesn't seem to boost your damage that much for the demerit to be worth it. Feels like you're better off using longclaw or whatever the name that makes your harpoon move do more damage instead.

>>720506235
I think near the chapel theres a random chance for any of the basic pilgrims to spawn

Who's the hardest boss in the game?

>>720506235
Maybe it only happens in Act 3, they change what enemies spawn where from Act 2 to 3.

>>720506235
The enemy set is randomized.
They spawn more reliably in Blasted Steps in Act 3.

>>720506235
you have to keep entering and exiting to the bench, the spawn in the graves is random kinda

I am going to eat my fucking controller. I seriously can't seem to kill void Lugoli. He has so much HP, almost no punishable attacks (unless I want to get AIDS) and I also can't shake the feeling I should've done him in act 2 but now I have made the fight much harder and I also need to kill him to upgrade my nail. Holy fuck I hate this game. Even my cogfly cheese doesn't work on him because he annihilates the fucking flies. Please help me.

>>720505604
I hate how insane the number of kills to complete the journal is, you will never hit that number for 75% of the enemies playing naturally.

>>720506291
the final boss probably, the only one I struggled on, even a little bit. honestly the triple air healing makes every boss in the game way more manageable than in hollow knight.

is this the indie tranny fotm game now that everyone's forgotten about deltatroon?

>>720505271
Well anon, you have me since I started to play not a while ago.

>>720506423
You can cogfly cheese him harder if you have Architect Crest and the poison tool, just burn though your shards.

Alternatively, if you get the flower, you won't get void AIDS even when you get hit by void enemies.

>>720506423
Wait why is the same fight harder in act 3? I‘m still in act 2 and was going to do everything i can before going to act 3

you guys keep saying several boss names with such reverence it feels like I'm not even close to the true ending at all.

For anyone who has done 100% completion, is there an "inbetween" state where the world is free of the act 3 things, but still right before you finish the game?

I'm trying to do 100% and I forgot to do a bunch of things in act 2 and now they are much harder because the enemies take 3x the hits to kill.

what are the rewards for the throwing pins minigame?

I just beat Fourth Chorus.
Been farming rosaries since I heard certain merchants like the hidden one in Hunter's March disappear soon.
Am I wasting my time by doing this?

>>720506882
nope, better break out those tools

>>720506948
15 = tool upgrade, 25 = rosaries.

>>720506948
pouch first, then money.

he's literally me

>>720506951
yeah, you could have gotten their stuff for free by just waiting

>>720506951
Kinda, you'll find better farming places later and you can't miss out on any item.

>>720506968
Goddamnit.

>>720506769
I'm guessing spoiler is a story progression item? Because I'm kinda trying to kill him in order to upgrade my nail so I could have a better time fighting the story bosses. I might try architect but holy fuck he seems to have so much fucking hp.

>>720506783
It's story spoilers but just take my advice and kill him (and everything else for that matter) in act 2. You need to kill that nigger in order to upgrade your weapon and if you postpone that shit to act 3 that means you'll be fighting a harder enemy with a weaker weapon so you're double fucked essentially. Act 3 (in my opinion) sucks balls and everything turns into cock and ball torture so you should mitigate that shit as much as possible.

>>720504691
WOAH BUDDY RETARD ALERT

>>720507263
Even bosses get upgraded in Act 3?

>>720507263
>I'm guessing spoiler is a story progression item?
yeah, it's basically your second to last main quest.

I don't think any bosses should be nerfed, but I have many ideas of how they can be adjusted so they're more fun.

-THE BIG ONE:most humanoid "bipedal" bosses shouldn't have contact damage. I think Khann having contact damage ruins the spirit of his fight. His fight is all about avoiding his summoned crystal spikes, but it turned out I took all the damage from him just jumping into me LOL
-(First Sinner doesn't have contact damage, but strangely does when she's stunned. lol)
-the little firemen from the lanterns should not be able to turn into fireballs while off-screen, since the entire wind-up of their attack is hidden. A fix to this could be to make them transform into fireballs faster so they're clearly transforming on your screen
-the horizontal side-blades that Grandmother Silk spawns should glow at the end of your screen to clearly indicate their height since there are times when you cannot see them flying out to the sides
-Trobbio shouldn't be able to go straight into Tornado attack after popping out of the floor, he needs more times when it's "SAFE" to attack him. Because he can always go straight into Tornado attack and because you can't avoid it when he starts it while next to you, it's only truly safe to chase him when does Tornado attack. both Trobbio bosses
-I have the same critique with Lace. It's only truly safe to attack her when she does the dive-kick. She needs more openings because it's boring to be forced to wait for her dive-kick because she can use counter or immediately go into a new attack with any other move
-You have to play cautious against Karmelita or risk taking damage. The "fun" way to fight her is to hook to her after her attacks, but you can get punished if she immediately rises up into that circle-spinning attack. You can play boring and this isn't a problem, you can beat her without taking any damage, but it would take a lot longer. She should be adjusted so being aggressive doesn't result in guaranteed damage

Does her needle eventually get an upgrade? I am sick of fighting low level enemies and having to hit them more than a couple of times.

>>720499251
It looks much scarier than it is. Her moveset is reduced to scuttling across the screen, which is clearly telegraphed, and popping out to pull down bells. Keep calm and move out of the bells' way while jumping over her scuttle. She's very vulnerable to slashes when she pops out to pull down bells so don't chase her down, just bap her when she's near you.

all that for a just one tool, huh

Objective boss tier coming through. Mind the spoilers.

>>720498890
>playing a game nonstop once it releases so you can shit on it
maybe take a break champ
>downgrade to hollow knight in every aspect
Movement is infinitely better
You likely got filtered by 45 degree angles

>>720507450
There's another boss and tool near you.

>>720507368
>remembered to slash every wall and jump against every ceiling
>forgot to run into each boss to check for contact damage
I'm not gonna make it

>>720505124
wait, people fought groal without the anti-maggot charm? My condolences brother i would have just cheated.

>>720507594
Where's the anti-maggot charm?

I just fucked myself over by having cogflies out during the abyss escape they killed the bugs i had to pogo off of and i just died in the lava over and over that was bullshit

>>720507647
I did the exact same thing

>>720507368
>because she can use counter
Her using counter is actually good for you and gives you either a small opening if she does the aerial one or a big one if she stays grounded.

>>720507647
bzzz bzzz bzzz

>done with almost everything act2
>find weaver nest Murglin

>>720507646
At the end of the aqueducts, which are also full of maggots.

FUCK YOU SETH YOU CHEATING FUCK

>>720507450
o7

>>720507646
somewhere in Putrefied Ducts, but unless you found the secret way in, i think you cant get there regularly yet? Honestly not sure, i got in via a secret.

>>720507450
Coral Tower has a boss in Act 3

>>720498890
It's better than Hollow Knight in every way except music. Maybe the currency system is a bit worse, but it's a shit aspect of both games.

>>720507454
I don't think Karmelita deserves an S rank. Her mechanics basically makes it so that there's only really one way to play against her, and it's a fucking boring way.

>>720507839
>except music
Act2 saves it on the music side but its a bit too late. High Halls, Songclave and Choral Chambers are all amazing.

>>720507839
idk man hollow knight is the greatest game ever

>>720507547
no contact damage is very satisfying, you can dash/hook into them and just wail on them before their next attack. needing to mind your distance or getting hurt because you hooked and they decided to jump after the hit is bogus. I think contact damage makes sense for a lot of regular enemies, especially flying enemies, since they're supposed to be obstacles, but the humanoid bosses shouldn't have that.

>>720507864
she has a goated song that bumps her a spot.

>Hornet gives contact damage in HK
>Hornet takes contact damage in SS
Explain now.

Beat the game twice now (Act 2).
Now working towards Act 3.

Act 3 kind of sucks huh

>>720506290
>>720506315
>>720506329
>>720506345
thanks bros, funny enough i found shakra fighting one to the west of bellhart that would respawn every time i hit the bench

>>720507901
Sands of Karak and the Cockwork Core mog all of those

>>720507368
>>720507694
Exactly, her counter is her safest move to counter. You can always double jump and pogo both her counters(even the jumpy ones) and get at least one more hit during the landing.

>>720508034
from the 50/50 of people praising/hating it and accounting for most of the praise being ego-driven, it's probable shite

>>720508049
cute nuu

fuck me this may be the saddest thing I saw in this game so far

>>720507991
That's true. Don't get me wrong, I like everything else about the fight, it just feels weird that it's like one of the only bosses in the game where the devs were like "you HAVE to play this way otherwise you just lose".

>>720508006
I'd take her contact damage if you know what I mean

How much stuff is there to do in Act 3?

just went back to hunters march 25 hours later with the double jump just to continue getting my ass beat by savage beastfly. it's fine i dont want more crests anyway

>>720508172
Make sure she isn't using Witch crest.

Lace 2 is RAPING me what the FUCK
any tips anons?

>>720507347
Apparently. All the normal enemies get super aids and turn more powerful, not sure if all the bosses but certainly this faggot.

>>720507348
I guess that option's out then. I just lured that fat cunt into all of my poison tacks AND sent all my cogflies after him and it still didn't die. I am beyond tilted because I'm dying to some random side area boss that I thought I would just melt and get my weapon upgrade but nope, turns out this shit is my hardest fight so far. I absolutely LOATHE act 3 and I wish I would have just stopped after act 2 because up to that point I loved the game. Now I just want it to be over but before that can happen I have to drag my balls through AIDS covered void glass. I can't believe the game turned from a 8-9/10 to a 2-3/10 with a single fucking act. I just can't do it anymore bros, I want to have fun and enjoy the game but I simply cannot, everything is just such a fucking drag. I'm not the best player to begin with so I had to git gud for some parts of act 1 and 2 but that was ok since I was excited to see what's beyond. Now I literally don't care anymore and can't imagine a payoff that would be worth all this shit. Sorry for ranting, I'm just so upset that it turned so unenjoyable so fast.

>>720508230
it added 20 hours onto my file but i went for 100%

>>720491465
Thanks anon I just needed to poke around more.

>>720508281
be far away and jump whenever she does something and you'll be able to react appropriately

>>720508034
>>720508110
Act 3 has balancing issues, that's its main problem. It just doesn't make sense that the same mob from act 2 that took 3 hits to kill now takes 8 or 9 hits, depending on your nail. It also feels a bit lazy that they all get the same annoying and boring void attacks.

>>720508230
Quite a bit. Excluding the changed world state, you'd get like 3 whole new areas, 1 multi gauntlet arenas with boss, and more wishes.

Did you find it?

>>720508281
Bait her parries then land a hit. Her jump + down attack give you 2 free hits. The end of her sphere AOE on stage 2 gives you 1 free hit.
If your reflexes are fast enough you can trigger her parry and jump away for an easy punish.

Oops wrong reply. I don't even know what weaver locations are.
>>720491276
Meant to reply to you.

>>720506423
do what I did and just spam clawline

>>720508281
My no-brainer strat was just to wait for her to dive kick and then attack. It's safe to punish. That's literally all I did.

>>720508107
>>720507694
These guys told me about countering her counter, but I didn't do it.

should i do the seth quest or call it here, i did everything else in the game

so.. is it better than the first game?

So I love the game. I loved the first too. The art style, the cute lil bugs, I even like challenging bosses. Thing is I know I am not good enough for what's coming as I just cannot handle when there's too much on screen at a time. Are there crests, tools, anything that can help me push through? I have gotten as gud as I am going to get. Like for example Widow was a really fun fight for me, despite dying several times, during the first phase. The second phase however destroyed me until someone said just hug the far right side and pogo when it dashes. I'm not very far into the game so when things start getting crazier beyond this, and I know they will, I really don't think I'll make it far. Any equips, crests, quests with good rewards to help, would be appreciated. I don't care about beating the worst the game has to offer. Just enough to finish the story. Also would like to save the little singing door bug if there's anything like that for him.

I'm not asking for an easy mode toggle or anything. Just whatever will get my subpar ass the edge to hopefully beat the game.

>>720508359
sounds like a case of it being hard to "upgrade" everything in an interesting consistent way, so it's a lot of awkward copy/paste

>>720508382
nah, I knew I'd miss at least a few secret areas by using the final upgrade in random spots around the map

Bros
FUCK
FUCK
FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK
RAPE THE LIQUID LAQUER

>>720508643
You can find that one without the Super Jump.

>>720508359
the boss fights don't really seem rewarding to do a second clean up of the map, there are some cool though but I feel like the best fights were clearly in act 2
don't get me started on the final fight which felt like a reused boss but worse, and holy shit what did they think about when making grandma so weak? Speedrunners that come to the boss with 0 upgrade?

>>720508535
might as well, it's honestly not so bad if you got the hang of the games to get the high score the first time

>>720508535
Call it done, it would be a shame to end it on something that will make you hate the game.

>>720507263
>It's story spoilers but just take my advice and kill him (and everything else for that matter) in act 2
when will I know I'm about to finish act 2?

>>720506951
You shouldn't need to farm rosaries in this game if you're killing enemies in your path, not dying twice in quick succession, and saving necklaces. Even when merchants disappear or die, chances are their items will drop nearby. Equip a Magnetite Brooch as well.

>>720508539
It would be if it wasn't ridiculously hard. Casuals need not apply.

>>720508581
all the soul skills do AoE problem is they all suck lmao

>>720508230
its mostly bosses. 10 new ones in total I think +/- 1 with only 5 of them being necessary (4 if you want to never fast travel I guess?). 2 new areas but I dont think the abyss really counts, every zone in the game gets a makeover for the worse with some passages being blocked off and ordinary mobs becoming more tedious to kill. a few new wishes, some of which are just breadcrumbs for optional bosses.

overall def less than act 2

>>720498595
act 3 is reverse comfy
it's just hard boss fight after another

>>720508717
95 flea dodges according to that other guys post in here seems excessive tho...

Is the spider strings charm good for anything except stunning more enemies with music?

>>720490262
I think I reached that spot and you just need to hit their corpse to get their ass to pop off.

>>720508281
It's basically a dodge and punish fight. Just keep at it and learn her moves and you'll get there. I used Reaper crest for the added range and easy pogos.

>>720498503 (OP)
>ALL THESE GOOF FLASH TYPE GAMES LATELY
Ender magnolia
Enders lillies
9SOLS
How is this compareed to the 3 above.
I been playing these games since the start of 2025 and my reactions and reflexes are craving more.

Would i like Silksong like the 3 above?
Bare in mind i never played the 1st silksong so this will be my first experience

>>720508820
contact damage ruins fun fights that could end up being fun, they could just reduce its hitbox by 20-30% and it'd be fine

>>720506951
any merchant that disappears gets their stock transferred to perma merchant im pretty sure

>>720499584
Who the fuck is Seth

>>720505124
>Groal
I know how you feel. I really didn't like him either. He's a weird boss to fight and I got my own way of handling him

-I'd stay on the sides, it's easy enough to pogo off of the guys he spawns and you have ample time to avoid the spike ball
-When groal came out, he's the only boss in the game that I used Charge Attack on. I'd wait for the big suck attack and then Charge Attack after it's over.
I tried to pogo him, but he's awkward to do that with because he can go up, moves erratically, and does an obnoxious upward dive before going down into the swamp. Just going for a single swipe on his face wasn't worth my while. I was tempted to bring him up in my post about fixing bosses, but I honestly don't know what else you're supposed to do. Staying in the middle of the arena feels out of the question because those type of enemies that spawn are DIFFICULT to hit and trying to stay on those swamp platforms when he sucked is a scary proposition.

But yeah, my stat makes him consistent to kill.

>>720508869
I thought so too, but I did it today with minimal tries, it helped to learn that you can actually get hit by a flea so long as you recover to a platform.

>>720509008
Yep, the thief merchant will pilfer everything and sell em to you. That's why you're seeing some of his lackeys around ded merchants area.

Gimme a (you), this was really fucking hard. Eat shit Seth fuck you

>>720509029
The guy she tells you not to worry about.

>>720508529
You mean clawline the boss? Because that void AOE saw attack is really painful.

>>720508758
You will most likely finish act 2 first and then go back and do all the remaining stuff to enter act 3. Finishing act 2 normally is fine and after that you can go back and do all the shit you missed.

You will set a trap for the act 2 boss. If you fight the boss and activate the trap you will start act 3.

you can still play act 3 after finishing the final boss right?

I wanted to go for 100% but im honestly just burned out and want to grab my ending and come back at a later date

>>720509029
The beneficiary of a trust fund band.

>first run complete act 3 at about 26 hours, 77%
>second run already got double jump at hour 5
It definitely helps to have a general sense on which areas are important and which ones should be avoided until you get later movement upgrades. Also knowing how to control Hornet well has made the fights a lot quicker. I still think act 1 can have too many difficulty spikes instead of a gradual curve especially when the game gets easier in act 2 because of how much shit you can find.

>>720508968
magnolia beats silksong for me

>>720509174
Thanks anon

>>720509175
You can, you just have to go back to the diving bell again if you save in the abyss.

>>720509175
yes

wait do you actually have to carry the meat from bellhome to the gourmet by yourself without taking damage?

yeah fuck that

>>720509123
wait. I got the oil and I only needed to beat the 3rd place in your picture. I didnt even see seth. is there another reward for coming back later and doing it all over again?

The spines keep dropping onto the spikes. Kill me now.

>>720508968
havent played those games you listed but silksong has made my palms sweat on numerous occasions from boss fights to a heinous platforming section with no checkpoint, though I am a boomer and mostly like RPGs. I fully cleared Silksong and consider it a great game thats probably autist adjacent with some of the optional stuff in it.

>>720509306
yes
I wouldn't bother until you get double jump

>>720508968
Much more bloated than those three but better imo, though nine sols is close. Also recommend prince of persia lost crown if you‘re new to the genre

>>720509332
you get a memento for beating seth's scores

>17 hours in
>(mostly) fully explored every area besides Wisp Thicket, Verdania, Sands of Karak, Bilewater, Putrified Ducts, Whispering Vaults and High Halls
I think I can get the sub 30 full completion cheevo

>>720509306
You can take damage but only around 3ish hits if you're fast. The real kicker being pre-patch once you got to Blasted Steps most things started doing 2 damage

>>720509306
It was worth it, but I wouldn't recommend it till way later.

>play the needolino after garmond's death
fucking end me bros

>>720509332
After you beat Seth you can find him in the world, eventually he comes to the Fleatopia and if you beat his scores you get a reward

>you hit the spines to collect them
OH.

>>720509175
yep and your file will have the added benefit of a hunter journal entry of the final boss

>>720509306
It's timer based, hits (or impacts against wall, falls...) make you loose time. I did it in 4-5 attempts, only barely winning with 2-3 hits (actually hit her head against a wall).
Protip: be sure to know how to get to the guy in his room

>>720509427
nobody tell him

>>720509240
You're welcome and I hope you have a better time with act 3 than I am having. Maybe if I had upgraded my weapon and masks before act 3 I wouldn't be struggling this much but as it stands act 3 really took the wind out of my sails. Even basic bugs do double damage in act 3 so I went from feeling very strong at the end of act 2 to very weak at the start of act 3 and that just feels wrong.

>>720508968
Yeah but play Hollow Knight first. This one is a connected sequel and also more difficult and punishing. Plus HK is terrific so you might as well

>>720509471
deep down is this a tutorial about pogoing on spikes or am I high

So, Pilgrim's Rest door.
How?
Still in Act 2, I want the flea behind the door.

>>720509375
>I wouldn't bother until you get double jump
this. I did it without double jump and it was tough. With double-jump, the route is trivial.

>>720509517
Surely someone doing that wouldn't do it on his first playthrough.... right?

>>720509601
who the FUCK would play Silksong.exe two times, who??

>>720509556
check the fast travel room very carefully

I've been taking my time taking in the game and also spoiled on several things here just because i can't find the things i need to progress...

>>720509637
That Steel Soul run isn't gonna clear itself.

Playing this makes me want a MapleStory that doesn't look like ass.

>>720509306
i waited until i had double jump and did it first try with some time to spare. was a lot easier than i expected.

save pilby

>>720509637
I would try it with a checklist without act 3, too bad it's not a 100%

>>720509539
No it's the creatures you kill so you can make a thing that's essential to progress anywhere in the Far Fields or whatever it's called.

I thought my heart was gonna explode after beastfly 2 and the rising lava challenge close by. This game throws so much bullshit, but so far it's not unmanageable

>>720501324

sex voice

>>720509693
You can get access to Steel Soul without beating the game by using the Konami code.

>hear you can gamble with pilgrim you find in blasted sands
>"Damn, I should've talked to him twice, I'll come back later."
>Come back later
>he's dead
Damn, I thought he was gonna make it.

>>720509835
I said fuck the lava one I'll do this later. What did you even get for it?

>>720509949
A mask fragment lmao.

so who's stronger at the end of silksong (end of canon timeline)
the knight, or hornet

>>720502485

>you'll die of old age or disease instead of being grappled by Hornet's thighs

it's not fair

>you don't have to be over a gust of wind to hover
this is going to be so helpful

I'd like to thank my friends Quit and Load
And huge shout out to my poison cogflies with the steel soul exclusive charm.
30 hours is way too generous i didnt even go for that achievement but once u know everything the game plays itself

>>720508581
Please respond.

>>720509674
Where you at bro?

Sands of Karak can eat my ass

>>720498503 (OP)
I have made it to cog dancers.
How many areas and bosses stand in the way between me and the first ending?

>>720510078
What's the actual cheese strat?
I was about to give up and try and cheese dark lace. But even with poison cogfly and wanderer crest I felt like they didn't do enough damage themselves and I had to still kind of play teh game

also if you didn't cheat that's crazy, last I saw there were 0 people on steam with it

>>720510023
The Knight and it isn't even close. Hornet is still just a demigod. Meanwhile what is left of the Knight is in control of the Void Entity a no shit full on eldrich god.

>witch crest
holy shit this is so cheesy I'm dying how funny it is

>>720510078
Fractured Mask trivializes Steel Soul too much

>>720510152
You are about halfway to the end of Act 2

So is Architect Lifeblood OD the most broken combination in the game?

>>720501419
>Beast
>dog shit
I love it, the only issue is the total lack of blue slots until you expand the vesticrest. I'm probably going to use my one blue slot on the injector band so I can go into BEAST MODE faster and more frequently.

>>720510125
no more wishes on the wishwalls
can't find shaman or witch
got the cogheart, shakra's master, 4 silk spells and 2 vesticrests, I think I have to do more courier tasks but those are just for farming right?

>>720508581
You want the mask and dice charms for sure. Both are bis for their colors for survivability. Dice is gamble and may not proc all that much but when it does it makes the pp become the big pp
Mask is possibly the best charm in the game

>>720510179
Follow the way of the maggot and become one with the filth

Oh shit. I knew I didn't like the look of that giant.

>>720509668
Thanks.
So many impossible-to-see paths, fucking hell.

>>720510179
Idk if there is a cheese, i quick loaded even before fractured mask in case game does something wonky.

You do get good in this game even if u think u dont, i pretty much shit on lost lace right now.

So what are some insects the games haven't touched yet that you'd like to see HK's take on?

>>720510179
Literally just sit in the shitwater with Architect and take potshots with the boomerang. He can't hit you.

>>720508382
I felt so smart.

>>720502485
Her poor vagina. :(

This makes the ranged-flying bossniggers seethe

>>720510109
Just use the certified "you didnt beat the game" build.
And pop 4 cogflies then bench so you have extra before the fight.

I doodled bugs.

>Fay

Please tell me this is The platforming level in the game and that nothing worse will come later

lore question
why doesn't the knight just solve everything

>>720510363
Witch is fairly involved, but in case ya really want it...
Whispering Vaults, there's a secret passage visible by its door hanging open
Have fun.

>>720510583
magnifique (I'm the bug with the french moustache)

>>720510618
he's dead :(

>>720510482
That would be pointless, anon. Half the time they look nothing like their namesakes.

>>720510078
I'm gonna take a lil break from the game before I go for this but I shouldn't wait too long or I'll start forgetting boss strats.

>>720510583
very good

>>720510580
whats the bottom one? I never got that one

>>720510605
Yes it's just platforming, very comfy once you get into the swing of it. There's only two proper enemies in the area and both are fairly easy to dispatch. You'll probably want to bring a few rosaries since one of the benches is paywalled, although once you get to the second bench the rest of Mount Fay is easy as.

>>720510583
I approve.

>>720510653
he's not, we see him in act 3
like what's stopping him from shadow tentacle slapping everyone real quick and solving the problem

>>720501885
>entire runback
It takes 30 seconds and you don't need to fight a single enemy

>>720506034
There's a chance that he spawns among the 4 pilgrims outside of the chapel left of Bone Bottom. He'll be the 2nd enemy from the left if he does spawn. Yes, it's retarded.

>>720510605
Sands of Kazak might be worse but it's a lot shorter. Mount Fay is probably the hardest platforming level in the game though yes

>install boss retry in act 3
>have fun again
fuck this game

>>720510710
steel soul exclusive, gives more tool uses

>>720510737
fay is literally the most chill segment from start to finish, wtf

Is Mt Fray just getting the double jump or is there more?

>>720510618
Silksong is kinda not his problem anon
also it's likely he's bound to the void without a shell

Normally I don't enjoy the boss fights but Fourth Chorus gives you silk and the lava rocks aren't too distracting. It's a good challenge... so far.

So between Cogworks Core, Mount Fay & Sands of Karak which did you enjoy the most for the platforming heavy areas. I guess you can count Bilewater's vertical ascents with those big acid spewing guys too if you want.

>Finish Broodfeast wish
Oh fuck yes now we are cooking

>>720510728

Even that runback had some ''waste'', you can skip the final bell by just cliff jumping higher and floating to the edge before boss room.

>>720510827
def more but for later

>>720510860
Bilewater because it's been years since I've actually seethed at a game

took me 38 hours and i finally got an ending, now to figure out how to get into act 3

>>720510827
It's just Double Jump, there's no bosses, one flea that you can get on the way to Double Jump and has like one other minor thing in Act 3. You can also fix the Broken Tool in Mount Fay although from what I understand it's not the preferred location for that.

Decent fight, I got filtered for like 5 minutes. Looks like she input reads?

I just beat one of the Conchflies. Do I really get nothing as a reward? The area to the left seems to require double jump which I don't have. Fuckin sandworms.

>>720510951
There IS a boss thoughever

>>720510857

You'll get to see plenty of good bosses later on

>>720510942
jokes on you no one's figured out exactly and precisely how to get into act 3

>>720510741
about to do this too

>>720510867
What's the best way to get Seared meat?

Please no spoilers except the very specific one I want to know
Does our knight show up

>>720502234
I thought holding down meant you could hover instead of double jump but I just tried and apparently not. It's fucking with me too, especially for blade/spike filled halls. I only got double jump after doing pretty much everything you can do without it so I'm fucked.

>>720503135
You don't have to hit the first fly if you're springing on enter you can just run past.

It's better to jump off the first platform after the one that has the shield enemy on it to the left. not right, there's a tunnel that goes up.

>>720510971
Most bosses don't give anything.

>>720511013
Yeah we did, literally talk to the NPC in settlement 3

Everyone in this game wants Hornet

>>720510964
all enemies do which is why is spam a/d so they dont know what im actually gonna do

>>720510985
Isn't Pinstress Act 3 though?

>>720510857
>you can just drop a big rock on it
Yep, this is peak.

>>720510618
No mind to think

>>720510727
The Knight is basically a ghost. He isn't the VE, but his memories and soul are what is giving the VE a sense of self. So what you see isn't actually him, but an echo of what he was. It's not enough of a factor to control the VE and make it do shit, but for the sake of the Knight's big sister it is enough to make the VE stir and interfer, if just for a moment

>Running through Cogworks
>platforming requires hitting off of gears.
>Hornet's hurtbox still gets clipped even when you do it perfectly

>>720510727
because hes not in control, void beast isnt knight and knight isnt void beast
the fact that knight saves hornet and even cares about her despite only meeting her 3 times is kinda idiotic from team cherry
void beast showing proves that godhome is canon which means they never met in black egg temple and hornet never helped him

>>720511062
got the necessary and sufficient conditions?

>>720510881
But I like the ding

>Pale Stag

FUCK THIS DEER WITH A RAKE, STOP TELEPORTING ACROSS THE ENTIRE GODDAMN STAGE

HAVE 500 POISON DONUTS YOU JACKASS, THAT'LL TEACH YOU

>>720510727
He's a powerful being but only a part of the void, he doesn't control it.

I did Karak and Cogs before I did Fay, big mistake.
But overall I thought Fay was the best, followed by Karak and the most boring being Cogs.

Currently doing Sands of Karrak and hating it.
I really enjoyed Mt Fae but here seems like similar demanding platforming but on a whole stage, at least i found a bench, cause i had to do some runbacks from the blue pindress before this

>>720511082
She is but anon made it sounds like there's just a "minor thing in act3". I wouldnt call that "minor"

>>720510971
You get the charge attack as a reward

Team Cherry needs to remove S and W to interact and make it only W.
It's interfered with some larp bows and most egreigiously is pic related where I can't do the final movement ability without triggering the fast travel

>>720503110
Plenty of anons used guides, plenty went blind, so don't feel bad, unless you used guides and still got that time.

whats the deal with these gibs? i keep seeing them pop up from time to time around the shaman area.

>>720511016
I just went to Greymoor and ran between the nectar inn bench and the bench east of it
Used flintslate to burn things to death

Right now I'm just farming rosaries to buy a shitton of equipment and bands

Dumb question but is the mapgenie map decent? I kinda wanna begin to mark everything before going crazy trying to find some forgotte mask or spool shard. Also is there a complete list of the hunter journal?

>>720498503 (OP)
That was a really fun fight, but not as hard as people have been saying. From the way people were acting on here I thought it was going to be some Eigong shit but it only took me an hour or so

>>720510964
>Looks like she input reads?
i think parries definitely input read but since there is delay every parry just turns into free dmg as long as u dodge properly
second sentinel is the biggest cheater

FUCKING NIGGER FUCKASS SPRINT JUMP WITH THE STUPID FUCKING WINDUP ON THE FUCKING SPRINT BEFORE YOU CAN FUCKING SPRINT JUMP.

If I EVER do Steelsoul in this game, which I probably won't because the delay on being able to sprint jump is the worst thing I've ever experienced in a video game in my 35 years of life, every run will end due to not being able to FUCKING sprint jump with any degree of responsiveness. 90% of my fucking deaths are due to sprint jumps not activating. I fucking HATE the sprint jump and I fucking HATE this stupid fucking lava section. Fuck you Team Cherry, one of the reasons HK was so well received was because of its immediate responsiveness to all inputs. Needing to "run up" to sprint jump is the worst fucking thing you could have done. You not only did it, but you included dozens of areas where it fucks you up or requires you waste time taking a steps back on every platform so you can gain momentum. I cannot sufficiently express how much trying to sprint jump without having enough momentum pisses me off in this game.

>>720511212
GOTY GOTY GOTY

>>720510605
fuck no lol there's a bunch of other hard platforming sections in act 2 you better buckle up in fact you can't even face the "final boss" until you do a whole obstacle course to get to them

>>720510497
I"m talking about in general for steel soul not the bog frog, that guy was easy

>>720511212
Yeah it sucks how much money you need in this game compared to HK

>HUE HUE HUE
>MURDERER

>>720510964
>realize Lace 2 reads my moves and responds accordingly
>bait her diagonal jump attack and pogo her for the rest of the fight

>>720511123
Should probably compile a list of things you don't need to have done. I saw a guide that said you need to have fought Second Sentinel, and although I'd given him the Cogwork Heart, I was able to do Silk & Soul without fighting him.

>>720510951
Even from my very basic testing the silkshot repaired at mount fay with only 2 tool upgrades does more damage than a fully upgraded silkshot repaired by the architect. Plus the projectile is an instant line when it fires instead of a ball, what could be considered a better use for the broken tool?

>>720511062
Lots of people have done it but there's conflicting information on what exactly the requirements are.

>>720511256
your "sprint jump" can just be dash into jump for the same height
you are bad, i never played a game with smoother movement and i was extremely scared when they showed first trailers

First sinner was such a good boss rewarding all-out aggression. Very fun fight. Though a tad too easy as I first-tried her.

>>720510580
whats the rational behind using fractured mask over druids eyes or reserve bind in the late game? seems like you would get more mileage out of those than a tears of denial unless you were never using silk to heal

>>720511035
play the game and find out

>>720511210
Flintslate?

>>720511229
Can't attest to it 100%, but when I was cleaning up for my 100% completion I found everything I was looking for right where the map said it was.

>>720511289
You get insane amount in act 3 but people prefer to get everything before triggering act 3

>>720511035
yes

>>720511372
>phase two is just phase one but much faster and overlapping attacks
kino

>>720511195
I had the same issue, it was really obnoxious

>>720511123
What people do know is that the fleas have to be at the pale lake, and I believe this requires finding 20 fleas.

>>720511346
Actually yeah I think I got my broken tools confused, Mount Fay's the rail gun isn't it?

Okay so who would do better, gameplay onliy
Hornet in HK1, or our boy in Silksong
Both have ALL upgrades

>>720511212
I still don't understand why they made only a minority of the enemy types actually drop money. In Hollow Knight you didn't have to farm at all unless you wanted to upgrade the fragile charms, here you basically have to farm if you want to buy anything.

>>720511378
for me personally knowing that I have the fractured mask active, it adds a lot to my confidence and how I play, just like having a stim available in helldivers. That mask is gone, my playstyle changes. I imagine lot of people use it same way

>>720511406
Behind the Simple Key door in Deep Docks, alternatively there is a way up there by going in from SW Far Fields and using the Clawline on a ring

Is there a way to get all the fleas I haven't found marked on the in game map?

>>720511491
hk has not enough space for hornet moveset
knight in pharloom would shit on every boss and never get hit because they are not balanced around shade cloak, movement wise you would probably pogo like there is no tomorrow

>>720511508
Cause for """lore""" reason. Notice anything that drop rosaries are all either pilgrims or part of the church.

>>720510964
only barely, she read your positioning and tries to hit you, which you can use to your advantage

>get to phase 2 of a boss first try
>die again
>tilt off the planet earth
>stuck for 2 more hours until I become numb to the anger
>beat the boss
Anyone else /weakmental/?

This might be my most hated regular enemy, even with Clawline they're annoying as fuck

>>720498503 (OP)
why does this guy look like a giant sprinting penis when he attacks and he breathes like he's fapping

>>720502089
Just use a controller you cretin

>>720511586
yea you'll come across it when you get most of the fleas and move enough times imagine paying for wiki information

>>720511586
Yes actually, go to purified duct but from citadel.

>>720511370
>dash into jump for the same height
Yeah, at the end of your dash on the frame your sprint begins, which is exactly what I was complaining about. It is not responsive and it feels like shit compared to all other movement in the game. This game would feel so much better if it did allow you to input both jump and dash at the same time to get a sprint jump from a standing position.

this might be one of the most padded out games ever. why is this shit 80 hours long? its like i went to find ciri and sidetracked myself for 200 hours, except this game doesnt have any engaging content. its the same map with a different skin and barely any story or dialogue or quests or anything. even the boss fights are boring because they repeat the same 3 tracks. i'd have expected millionaires with infinite budget to have made something more ambitious, but no, they rather waste that shit on giving retarded singing npcs when you play the flute

why does the wanderer crest sometimes give me an attack with extra damage

>>720511212
If you're still in act 1 DO NOT FARM rosaries because it becomes much easier in act 2 so you'd just be wasting time. In act 2 you'll be able to get a fuck ton of rosaries quickly and clear out all shops in one go

>>720511482
Mount Fay is the railgun, architect is the single projectile that shoots forward, and the forge daughter supposedly is a multishot. From what I discovered in this playthrough is that it's best to immediately get the double jump after clawline, sit at the bench by the place where you can repair the silkshot, then go all the way to bilewater to pick it up and bench warp back. If you took the phantom route into act 2 you'll have the bilewater stag opened up for sure making it a fairly quick trip. Though I suppose it might be easier to pick it up on the way to fighting phantom, I don't remember if you need the double jump to access it or not.

>>720511565
Ah ok, there's so much of Deep Docks I missed, I know there's that double boss against the worker brothers that I missed.

>>720511586
yes. there is a flea merchant named vog hidden above the bellway in putrified ducts that moves to the flea caravan and then sells pins showing you where the remaining fleas are

>>720511640
putrid aspid

>>720511714
Has a crit chance when your silk is maxed out I think
Very weird mechanic and not a very good chance

>>720511685
yea but if you click D on a few random rooms you'll get a few words about bugs moaning, so it was all worth it

>>720511461
Yeah the trick is to go away from the interact trigger then jump on it fast and use the ability before it can load in

You know that one secret area which you enter in clever way but there is nothing there but some silk.
Took me 70 hours to realize what it does.

>>720511652
They were inspired by Mara

>>720511685
Nigga, this shit is like barely 20 hours long if you know what you're doing, can be speedrun to be under 5, and most normal people playing the game blind would hardly hit 40 hours.

i kinda love hornet because she reminds me of my sister

I just got my 2nd simple key, where should I use it next? I know there's a door at the bottom of Deep Docks and that green NPC at Sinner's Road but fuck that place honestly

>>720511640
>This might be my most hated regular enemy
For me, it's these cunts from Bilewater that pop out, throw darts, and disappear.

>>720511857
shes a horny slut but looks 14?

>>720511637
My approach to frustration in games is:
>get pissed
>"I'll come back later"
>turn game off
>wait two minutes
>"fuck it this thing needs to die"
>relaunch game
>repeat until victory

>>720511794
Legit, I think the more direct Primal Aspid expy in this game (the Squatcraw) is way easier.

>>720511586
Find the flea warrior in ducts. You need grapple and I think double jump to get to her

>>720511857
Your sister talks in stilted faux archaic courtly manner and was kidnapped and raped by a bunch of fat niggers next to a mountain?

>>720511876
wormway/deep docks > green prince (you get a simple key in this zone so i wouldnt use it on him) >>> high halls

>>720511876
Deep dock first.

>>720511896
no she's 24 but she's 5'11 and I'm 33 and I'm 5'9
and we both love each other

>just fought the ant dancer queen
absolute kino. need more bosses like this and less like the shitfly and the unraveled

>>720511848
you care about speedrunners almost as much as the devs

>>720511759
>sells pins
Is there anything in this game that doesn't cost money?

>>720511886
I don't mind them too much, although both enemies are an issue in the short tunnels, at least you can pogo over Stilkins that jump out of the water

>>720511886
These guys can't throw upward so they're weak to the pogo. The other guys that only show up in the Groal gauntlet can only throw downward so they're weak from the sides.

>>720511652

>TWO of these guys to save Sherma

I'll do it for him but honestly jesus holy fucking christ

>>720511640
Just pop a few cogflys out and they kill it in seconds

I HATE THE MIST
I HATE THE MIST
I HATE THE MIST
I HATE THE MIST

>>720511848
>and most normal people playing the game blind would hardly hit 40 hours.
Only if they're beelining towards reaching an ending ASAP. I'm playing it blind first time and I'm still finding new areas at the 37 hour mark.

>>720511201
seconding this. I first saw it after exploring blue cum infested wormways so I thought some mutant worm escaped for a bonus bossfight, then I reloaded and nothing happened

>>720500896
This series of rooms gave me a lot of trouble too. Didn't help probably that I was about 8 hours into a session and it was late as fuck, but sometimes you can't go to bed til you show the damn game who's boss.

>>720512083
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DaaPlMJBfTo

>>720512035
Yeah that's usually what I end up doing is just spamming whatever tools I've got to get rid of them. I wish they weren't in Putrified Ducts cause otherwise I'd really enjoy the area between the Pharloom Moss Charger and HL2's Barnacles it's a pretty cool location.

Which crest is your favorite? Mine is Wanderer because Hollow Knight-mode just works. I respect anybody who stuck with the default Hunter crest. I was happy to ditch the angled dive kick as soon as I possibly could.

Is there any other way to damage those shield carrying cogwork robots other than pogo?

>>720508281
Trying this again, and I think my big issue with this fight is that she sometimes follows up attacks with frame-perfect parries and sometimes doesn't. Mind boggling design choice. Pls just give me a reliable opening.

What new areas get added in Act 3 besides the Abyss?

>>720512013
honestly I just bit the bullet, bought thieves mark, and then grinded the 3 big guys to the left of first shrine for 30 minutes and cleaned out every vendor and fully upgraded my house and then promptly began pretending rosaries didnt exist.

the only rosary sink in act 3 is your last needle upgrade which is like 700

>>720512165
I bet I would like Wanderer if I tried it but they gave me Reaper, I said "this feels fine," and I never considered switching for the rest of the game. Same with Silkspear as the default spell.

>>720512165
I really want to like Architect but the angled drill really fucking me up for platforming. on the other hand, I really want to like Witch but no enemies during long platforming sections means it's back to the bench for me.

Thank god I got the Mist ghosts journal entry fully unlocked. Didn't know that it clears after doing it once. Do I need to stay inside Verdania to complete the entries from there or I can enter whenever I want?

>>720511637
I'm definitely the "run head first into the wall until it breaks" guy, but act 3 changed me - I didn't get angry, I just got depressed and closed the game. I'll probably return to it for a few days with increasingly less motivation until I finally call it quits and uninstall. I'm too old to be finishing a game I don't enjoy. Christ the retarded seething about acts 1 and 2 is so hilarious because you just KNOW they haven't reached act 3.

>>720512165
I'm a basic bitch, I take Reaper Crest and refuse to change, I unlocked all the slots on it before even touching any of the other crests.

What do I need to do to get into Act 3? These are the only things I have left (as far as I know)
>Coral Tower
>Voltnest
>Cogwork Core
>Father of the Flame
>First Sinner
Yes, I have
>all fleas found
>all quest boards complete
>restored cogwork heart
>trail's end complete

>>720512243
just double jump when you hit her parry, you'll dodge both versions everytime

>>720511857
>i kinda love hornet because she reminds me of my sister
t. pic related

>>720512252
Lost Verdenia
a huge part of Hunter's March

>>720512178
Tool spam, fortunately there aren't that many of them and the one you find in the Upper Cogworks in the platforming section you can just stand on the platform underneath him and attack from below and he doesn't react, stupid robots.

>>720512281
I absolutely love the witch moveset but hate the bind. It's heartbreaking.

>>720512298
when you leave verdania everything in the journal auto-completes

>>720512243
The parry is an opening in itself.

>>720512279
>>720512310
>Reaper
The down-slash is cool, but I hated the alternating up/down normal slash and the upward slash sucks ass

>>720511637
I have the opposite problem with these games. I can learn bosses pretty quickly. I don't think radianting any boss in HK took me more than half an hour. In Silksong I often lose early into phase 2 my first two tries and then either hitless them or only get hit once. But path of pain took me four hours, fixing the bench in Sinner's Road took me an hour and a half, and I'm also >>720511256 bitching about Whiteward's lava platforming. I get tilted on the platforming and start making mistakes trying to rush through, rather than the bosses.

>>720512165
I stuck with Hunter and only changed when forced or when I had to do the Flea Bounce. Dash attack into an instant dive kick is just pure sex with this crest for me.

how can i into parrying

>>720511896
>>720511959
/v/tards are really not funny these days

>>720512432
you attack their attack. attack the white-streaks of their attack and you'll tink off of it

>>720512312
I can tell you that Voltnest, Father of the Flame and First Sinner most definitely don't cause I didn't do any of them before Act 3. I don't think there's any reason Coral Tower would be required since it's meant for Act 3 anyhow. Not sure what you mean by Cogwork Core, it's part of the main progression of the game you have to go there for the Architect's Melody.

You do need to kill Groal in Bilewater though

>>720512275
I really really liked the Rosary Cannon.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=2_JTzEppKy8

>Eva gives the last upgrade
geez, thanks, too bad I only have only have one boss remaining

>>720512530
>>720512530
>>720512530

>>720512083
Diagpogoing the ghost's charge is easy though. Very telegraphed

>>720512502
Yes I haven't done Upper Cogwork Core because I didn't want to trigger an early ending if there's a normal ending. Groal is dead, got the weird soul item in his hut.

>>720512432
Kill Phantom, Silk Skill is literally the counterattack.

>>720512165
I think when I get really good at the game and learn all the enemy patterns and boss patterns, I'll move on from Reaper. But when you're first timing a new area, Reaper's reach and silk generation and generous pogo are too valuable to pass up.

>>720510530
How do you even get the shaman crest?

>>720512328
>>720512394
don't worry boys I got here

>>720512312
The thing that unlocked the quest for me was getting all the fleas but you already have that apparently so maybe it's just cogwork core. Did you fight grandmother silk?

>>720512586
If you get the normal ending you can just reload your save and so the stuff for the true one. You won't miss it

>>720512586
Talk to the robed guy who was at Songclave from the start (the one that never shuts the fuck up with his "hoi"). Also don't worry, even if you get Normal Ending it'll put you back right before the final boss afterwards and there's nothing in doing the normal ending that blocks you from getting to Act 3 afterwards.

>>720512679
Thanks for the help anon

>>720510605
The fucking platforming challenge above cradle in act 3 is far, far worse than mount Fay.

>>720512178
Attack shield, they counter, pogo. Basically the fastest way to kill them.

>>720512643
*her

>>720512623
act 3 only it's in the ruined chapel, you need to use the super jump to get it

>>720512623
You use the act3 movement skill near whereever you find some SHAMANs
incredible charm btw, have fun

>>720510618
>>720510727
My theory is he Because he didn't know where Hornet was until she was stuck in the void without the flower, the moment the flower fucks off he shows up to save her ass from the feral parts of void. Ghost doesn't actually give a fuck about whatever falls into the void, but it's different with Hornet.

>>720510964
Doing consecutive dash parrys against her was some anime kino

>>720512165
I've tried beast, hunter, architect, reaper, and witch all for an extended period and wanderer still just feels the best. So fast and fluid and versatile. It only struggles with flying enemies and you can just equip long claw or use tools or double jump and pogo them

How many Everblooms would it take to wipe out the Abyss?

>>720511637
I am a stubborn cunt and will grind a boss/platforming challenge/gauntlet for hours upon hours until I finally beat it.
The fucking coral tower bs probably took me like 10 hours over the span of 2 days. I'm fueled by my anger and I won't let a fucking videogame get the better of me.

So you're telling me the bilewater guys have an entire biome filled with silk eating maggots and they never successfully mounted an attack on the citadel.

So, how would you rate the tribes and kingdoms of Hallownest & Pharloom, during whatever peaks they had (I'm not going to ask about the Ancient Civilization since not enough information was given)?

> Mantis Tribe
> Moth Tribe
> Deepnest Weavers
> Mosskin & Unn
> Pale King's Kingdom
> The Hive
> Colosseum of Fools
> The Grimm Troupe
> Godseeker's Home
> Khann's Coral Tower
> Karmelita's Hunter's March & Far Fields
> Green Prince's Verdania
> Silk's Kingdom
> Flea Caravan

>>720512936
It doesn't remove it?

>>720512936
Well one Everbloom is able to ward off the Abyss and seems to be able to contain it at least to the degree that we see in Godhome. It seems like as long as an Everbloom is fully functional it can wipe out a source of Void so I guess it depends on just how big the Abyss is really.

>>720512396
I feel that Reaper is only regarded so highly because people here did Godhome and still have pogo muscle memory from intense HK battles. The diagonal pogo, for a while, feels alien when compared to the muscle memory and it also has an issue of the hitbox ending before the animation which takes some getting accustomed to. This game is absolutely designed around the diagonal pogo being a repositioning tool rather than the catch-all counter and DPS (pogo into a backslash) tool that HK's pogo was. Silksong wants you to use diagonal pogo as an evasive tool whereas the Pogo in HK was used for offense. Reaper seemed intended to give you the HK playstyle if you wanted it, but it really doesn't work against Silksong's enemy designs compared to the diagonal pogo if you can move past the muscle memory.

>>720511113
She saved his life from the collapse at Kingdom's Edge.
And if Godhome is canon, that means they met at least 4 more times in the pantheons.

>>720512983
I mean they were planning on it, they were spurned by the Shaman to study Soul which is how Groal learned Vengeful Spirit. However it's also important to remember that thanks to the Cogworks, the Citadel has access to an army that is able to function without being puppeted directly by Silk. Also it seems that no one in Bilewater had figured out a way to properly carry the maggots around, the closest we get is the Chef being able to scoop them up and hurl them in globules, but like you'd really want some sort of Maggot Bomb or something.

>>720513228
I read it slightly differently. I think Hornet's default moveset is the way it is because that's true to her characterization in HK, but TC is aware that it's troublesome in a gameplay capacity so they approach the problem in two ways: First they offer alternative movesets including very familiar ones. Second they give the Hunter crest TWO upgrades to make it stronger to reward people who stick with it. Ultimately there's no wrong choice though. If you just don't like Hunter and find Reaper or Wanderer more comfortable that's why they're there.

>>720513592
>Second they give the Hunter crest TWO upgrades to make it stronger to reward people who stick with it.
That's not really true though, it's more like the others start in an upgraded state. The hunter starts with no gimmicks and gains them through upgrades, but all the others just have gimmicks to begin with, like Wanderer's equivalent is its crit chance, for Reaper it's the extra silk gain.

>>720509346
>>720509382
>>720509535
thanks /v/
Ill pick it up next month

>>720512578
Yeah, until you miss and get your silk sucked out of your ass, or cause you to fall into the bottemless pit

>>720498503 (OP)
The criticism surround this game reminds me of that Mario webm

>>720513980
what

>>720514158
The one where he swallows giant yoshi eggs like some kind of duck while Wario has sex with Jill from Resident Evil in the background.

I first tried this, what even was the point of this fight? It took literally 30 seconds of just attacking.

>>720506448
Genuinely any of the dozens of medium to large enemies that only spawn in two locations should only require like 5 or 6 kills max, it's bullshit that they want you to kill like 16 or more sometimes which is incredibly boring and tedious to farm, especially if they're far from benches

is there a map for the mist?