Thread 720730526

I finished this for the first time today, going in completely blind. And wow, this made me weep for how low the bar is for more modern survival horror games today. Tying saves to a limited resource, adding more enemies as you backtrack. Just phenomenal. Are the other games this good? The only other one I've completed was RE4.

>>720730526 (OP)
Unfortunately this is the height of classic style RE.
OG RE2 is the only other good one.

>>720730526 (OP)
REmake 3 is so shit that the OG RE3 is now a masterpiece

>>720730739
>>720730828
I'll check em out. Cheers anons.

>>720730526 (OP)
REmake is the magnum opus of the genre and the defining game of what RE is.
Sadly people have become too used to action orientated games with the TPS era and now FPS era.
RE0 is the true tragedy.

It's why many people disliked 4 for what it did to the series.
>Came out 3 years before 4
>Came out 8 months before 0
That's why both of those were hated so much.
0 looked great, but it's mechanics and gameplay decisions were so bad.
4 just fucked everything up, even though OG fans accepted it's a fun game.

>>720730739
>>720730828

Can confirm that OG 2 and OG 3 are the best games in the series

>>720730526 (OP)
>Are the other games this good?
The classic RE1-3 are timeless masterpieces, and absolutely must-play. And replay; that's something most modern AAA slop completely lack.

And yes, you REALLY should play the OG 1996 RE1 as well.
Preferably before REmake, as it was made for the veteran RE-fans, by the OG devs, who then changed things there and here to play mind games on the players. Skip the classic trilogy, and you'll miss all these cool alterations.

RE1 1996 also has way more open-ended gameplay, with more alternative scenarios and endings, and it's overall more fun to play if you ask me.

The recent RE-engine DE-makes are irredeemable garbage. No way around it.
Instead, you should play the older spinoffs, such as Outbreak and Dead Aim.
Continue the vibes with Dino Crisis 1-2 and Silent Hill 1-4 (originals), and maybe Fatal Frame.

>>720730739
>>720730828
Try hard zoomer niggers.
Original RE3 is literally the superior "RE2".
It's the Code Veronica where Mikami went batshit insane and jumped shark.

>>720731210
>me
Crimson heads are based.

>>720730739
RE2 was good but bloated and silly, RE3 was leaner but not in a great way. RE specially the remake is an eternal classic and sadly will never be topped as the prime example of survival horror done perfectly.

>>720731210
-me.

Crimson Heads were a great addition, and the fact that DEmake 2-4 didn't have a similar system, eventhough it was planned, is just one of the many, many sins of those clusterfucks.

>>720731272
REmake 1 already was a significant downgrade from the 1996 original.
Still THE definitive remake in history, and the game that started the boom in the first place.

>>720731175
deadly silence had no business being that amazing
i remember getting it on a discount expecting nothing and being completely btfo by how good that was

>>720731210
Hope they return for RE9.

>>720731210
I liked em. Plenty of tools to deal with them and if you didn't want to / didn't have the resources there was almost always a different route around. I kept a journal while I was playing so I could keep track of where I left bodies and plan ahead.

>>720731690
As an boomer RE fan who was bummed that the Game Boy Color port was canceled, this thing was the next best thing. And I cannot stress how mind blowing it was to be able to play the FULL game on a portable handheld device in the mid-00s.
It was even slightly enhanced AND tiny bit uncensored (the falling head)

>>720731210
*makes your game kino in you're path*

>>720731175
Should probably be updated for the gog version

>>720730526 (OP)
Are you me?
Also I am so disappointed crimson heads were not used more

>>720732593
I took a photo of the map with my phone and kept jotting notes on it with the stylus while I played.Only few games ever made me want to keep journals like this

>>720733835
>I took a photo of the map with my phone and kept jotting notes on it with the stylus while I played
That's honestly damn cute!
We boomer gamers used to do pen + paper all the time in adventure games like this.

Og re1 is better. Not even being a typical v contrarian faggot. I held remake as the best classic re since it came out but I had never actually played the og1 until recently because I just assumed it was just remake but dated and worse.

I was wrong, og1 oozes with style and atmosphere that remake totally butchers. It is a little on the easy side compared to remake though. However I think remakes consistently makes choices that ruin the experience.

Crimson heads are fucking trash and you know it. If it was a couple of them fine but every zombie? That burning thing is designed to just pad(waste) time. Remake has one atmosphere grimdark creepy. Og1 every area, hell even every individual room had its own unique character. Remakes all room s and areas just look and felt the same. No color anywhere. Og1 despite being a horror game was filled to the brim with color and life and vibrancy. Remake went for boring forgettable serious real acting while og1 has the iconic and charming camp.

Remake has more backtracking than the original. Also remake has these various extra play modes OG did not have but all of the extra modes are complete trash. Invisible enemies isn’t really fun niethernis that zombie with grenades you cant kill or whatever, I never see anyone talking about remakes extra modes because nobody plays them.

But it’s mostly atmosphere, remake utterly ruins the orignal games atmosphere. And in horror games atmosphere is king and a ruined atmosphere is the gravest sin.

>>720735703
Congrats, you managed to be wrong on everything.
But this:
>But it’s mostly atmosphere, remake utterly ruins the orignal games atmosphere
You're doubly wrong.

Also:
>Not even being a typical v contrarian faggot
You are.

DEMAKE

>Jill's lockpick is nerfed, lowering campaign differences by magnitudes
>far more linear right from the start, HAVE to go down the arrow hall and get the Sword key right away, can't go anywhere else
>Mansion goes from having a modernish look to over the top candlit halls, someone having lit the candles in the MONTHS the mansion was filled with zombies
>Guardhouse goes from looking like it was actually used (you know, since it was) to dilapidated and old, despite being where all the fucking guards lived
>Neptune's small room is changed from believable to a huge aqua ring where Neptune insta kills you on a time like it's RE4
>we get not-Nemesis, boring piece of shit that barely does anything other than add in explanations we didn't really need
>caves are expanded and made worse with the gay box pushing
>Barry's survival is changed from subtle to a literal "Yes or No" choice
>Hunters are nerfed and censored (no decaps, despite showing them in the trailers)
>Tics are cut instead of being expanded on
>Second Tyrant in Chris' campaign is cut and isn't even present in Hard mode or Real Survival
>Arranged/Advanced Mode is cut
>Battle Game is cut (and with it, zombie Wesker and Gold Tyrant)
>costumes from all the older games are cut and replaced with two of the worst costumes in the series and admittedly decent costumes that reference RE3 and CVX
>the white beretta from Arranged mode is cut
>Minimi and Submachine Gun (PC ver.) is cut
>the Library is completely butchered, the room overlooking the helipad is cut
>MO Disc collection is dumbed down
>Self Defense items are added to make the game easier
>shortcuts are added to make the return trip easier
>the ONLY new modes are just basic 'Turn enemies invisible,' 'Only have one zombie,' 'lol item box doesn't work'
>references to games beyond 2 are locked in a Japanese exclusive pile of text, Wesker's Report II
>no attempt to tie into 0

>>720736027
Yeah nah you’re a fag and you never played the original.

>>720736174
This guy fucks

>>720731690
Being able to skip cutscenes made it such a great way to play. With no cutscenes, I've been clearing this game in like 30 minutes

>>720730526 (OP)
2 was just as good while stepping it up in a lot of areas (in an Alien to Aliens sort of way). Beyond that, they had a hard time finding ways to meaningfully improve without abandoning the core mechanics or identity. More often then not their attempts ended up ranging from questionable to bad.

1 > 3 > 2

4 >>> 5 > 6

REmake >>> REMAKE 3 > REMAKE 2

>>720730526 (OP)
RE2 is better IMO

>>720731175

fag post

>if you finished the game 4 times, you are forced to play with bomb guy
I really hate it.

>>720731091
By the time 0 came out the general audience and even the devs were tired of RE. Mikami himself was fatigued by the series, so he decided to overhaul RE4 after years of development hell and turn it into something completely different.

>>720731175
>retard writing essayshit on RE
>starts talking about Mikami for games he was famously barely involved in
The only RE games where Mikami's contributions would be measurable are
>RE3
For extending the development period and making it a numbered entire.
>REmake
Making it less faithful
>RE4
Actually did the work of a director on this one

>>720740315
>By the time 0 came out the general audience and even the devs were tired of RE.
This isn't true, it's just a common myth spread by armchair analysts.
CV was one of the best selling games on the Dreamcast outside the first party titles, and the DC was a dead console by the time it launched.
REmake and Zero also released on dead consoles, but in Zero's case, that was after years of delays and promising it'd be on N64, and they ultimately launched on a console NO RE fans had because RE4 had, for years, been slated for PS2. Even as late as 2001, you could find fansites going "RE4 is still gonna be on PS2 bros, trust the plan!" so that was the console RE fans were actually buying.
This resulted in Outbreak almost outperforming Zero, because PS2 players fucking wanted Resident Evil.
RE4 itself proves this fact, that people did not want RE on GCN, as it barely did better than REmake, it only sold well when it got ported to PS2.
>Mikami himself was fatigued by the series, so he decided to overhaul RE4 after years of development hell and turn it into something completely different.
Mikami is just a ginormous retard.
Kamiya was already doing something completely different with his BIO4, and Mikami went "Nah, not RE enough", which is what caused the years of dev hell- he took a finished game and said "No, doesn't count".

Original is still better
>less lineral
>mansion suppose to be RECENTLY occupied with researchers NOT faggy ass spooky mansion
>Kino VA
>doesn't have shitty Lisa part that served no purpose other than to pad the game
>best characters induction of the series

>>720736605
>>This guy fucks
Himself.

>>720731091
>RE0 is the true tragedy
Fake nigga spotted. 0 is one of the better REs, more fun than even RE4. Seriously, that's probably one of the most overhated games on this site.

>>720730739
i love re2 so much, I only beat it twice but have been thinking about downloading a ps1 emulator again and replay it a third time
probably after i beat thief 2 and silent hill 3 i will
also the old RE's can be beat in a sunday afternoon, you dont need a gorillion hours like in modern slop

anyone knows if the steam version of RE0 is good? i'm always skeptic of old games on steam, they tend to run like shit

>>720742646
Doesn't have any issues, OG RE4 is unplayable with mouse and keyboard unless you use a fix

>>720735703
>>720736174
They did their level best to strip every ounce of soul from the original game. Don't even get me started on the music. All those cool synth-heavy 90s tracks replaced with generic, utterly forgettable orchestral shit.

>>720743010
i actually had to install some third party shit to run re4 at 60fps
my pc is low budget, the most modern AAA title it can run at +60fps is overwatch, but still it shouldn't have had the problems i had with a fucking 2005 game like RE4
my framerate was absolute ass, like it would be 25fps and go down to 10 randomly, i still dont know why it runs so terribly

>>720730526 (OP)
I still can't believe some people don't like the addition of crimson heads.

>>720741629
this becca is a cute
a cute
im going to kiss her :)

Boy I sure am glad they wisely used their dev time adding stupid bullshit like Lisa Trevor and enlarging the caves instead of fixing the god damn game so it has a coherent scenario with all 5 remaining STARS members escaping that fits with the rest of the series.

Jill and Rebecca are hotter in REmake so your tranny "og" complaints are irrelevant

>>720733308
Are the gog versions good?

>>720744362
You don't really even have to "fix" the game. Just put Barry or Rebecca in another cell down in the lab, give them a couple lines about how Wesker locked them up. Boom. Done.

I see now that the game is really easy, the easiest RE in the classic style by far. But when I played it the first time it was like the hardest shit I have ever played in my life. Because I hadnt seen anything like it. I was a Nintendo only kid and didnt even know what Resident Evil was.

I remember we finally got internet access and I was shocked to see people post on Gamefaqs their short clear times and there were even unlockables tied to this because mine was 20 hours lol.

>>720746352
in terms of difficulty
RE1>>>>>>>>RE:CV>RE3>REmake>RE2

>>720730526 (OP)
Nice try shill but Tankslop was never good, re2 remake is better

>>720746579
And put RE Zero in the front what an annoying piece of shit.

dont reply to him

>>720743161
>>720730987
I hold the lighting and atmosphere of this game in the highest regard you can imagine.

>>720741629
You're the fake nigga nigga.
0 has so many flaws in the core gameplay such as;
Significant area transitions requiring mass item haulage
As above with points of no return or pain in the ass return trips
Most weapons being 2 slots in a game with no box and 6 inventory slots per person
Molotovs
Leech men
Bosses are all pretty shit, both in design/originality and actually fighting them.
Monkeys; an enemy that jumps on walls in a game that you can only really aim in 3 directions.
Oh and the key card in the train that a lot of people missed before going all the way to the back of the train.

I loved 0 at the time as well, it is overhated sure.
But it is nowhere near the top of any list of RE's

will 9 have monsters from throughout the franchise?

>>720745542
They are.
All fixed for modern OS and controllers
Can download any language so Japanese is ready to mod with no fuss (literally just drag and drop classic rebirth and seamless HD in the folder and done)
Door skip coded in.

Re1remakeReloaded when?

I prefer remake art style but prefer replaying og because it's leaner, tighter, more focused
lisa is a nice addition when you experience it once but on replays it just feels like a tacked on detour and distracts from the mansion
and crimson heads are a nice addition when you experience them first because they make it more challenging, but on replays it actually removes challenge, i always end up with more leftover ammo at the end of remake than the end of og

tired of retards complaining about the remake art style when its the peak of pre rendered alongside zero
on that note zero is a top tier sequel and at least better than 3, cv and outbreaks, never understood the double standard criticism it receives over completely minor and trivial issues when it sticks to the core design that makes re good while 3 and cv are complete design messes

>>720730526 (OP)
The best part is getting to the lab and thinking "finally free from those fucking Hunters" and then suddenly the worst, most horrifying enemy in the whole game

>>720731104
https://files.catbox.moe/05646r.mp4

>>720749215
those are easy as hell. they go down in 2 shotgun shells

>>720751485
They are still way creepier than any other enemy in the game, to me at least.

Are there any actually good indie survival horror games?

I liked Crow County

>>720731210
Just burn the bodies, what's the problem?

>>720751842
One of the few times I pirated a game and then immediately bought it. Made by a tiny Chilean team and a sequel is coming out soon, the demo dropped a few months ago and its an hour of content
>You Will Die Here Tonight
>The Mute House
>Hollowbody
>Heartworm
>Daymare 1998 (get it on a discount, its really jank in some places but a fun game, the sequel is trash)

>>720730526 (OP)
I tried to get into a "modern" take on the formula recently called "Hollow Body". Couldn't do it. It was like super jank Silent Hill.

>>720747546
Have any modders stepped up to fix the flaws with RE0?

>>720752285
Hollowbody has a cute joke ending on a second playthrough. Her name is Mina (a reference to SH2's Mira)

>>720751842
Alisa

>>720751842
Looking forward to crow country, playing it in spooktober

>>720752858
I got out of the beginning apartments and was running around town not enjoying myself so I put it down. That's pretty early on though. I didn't uninstall at least so maybe I'll try again later. There were things I found a little interesting if I have to compliment it somehow. The voice on the phone sounds like a retarded ghost robot or whatever it ends up being if I see it through.

>>720752865
This one spoke to me for some reason. I've beaten it three times now.

>>720751842
>Are there any actually good indie survival horror games?
Penumbra Ep1-2
Afraid Of Monsters: Director's Cut
Cry Of Fear
Signalis
Tormented Souls
Alisa

>>720754670
move village, og 3, and 0 to A, and swap where revelations 1 & 2 are and this looks right to me.

I do not trust anyone who prefers 3 to CV.

What about a game called Tormented Holes and its about raping a haunted asshole?

>>720751485
They have more health than Hunters in the original game and they're hard to hit. I dunno why the remake nerfed them so much.

>>720755229
I think more people would say the reverse

>>720755820
Yeah, most people are retarded and have bad taste

>>720747546
>Significant area transitions requiring mass item haulage
This sucked the life out the game for me. Such a fucking slog.

>>720740617
>>RE4
>Actually did the work of a director on this one
desu I'm not sure how much credit he should get for 4. If you look at the older builds, they already had the core gameplay that everyone lives like the aiming system and melee attacks everyone long before he ever got involved. They just kept trying to do things that were way too ambitious for the Gamecube hardware like fog monsters and real-time Otherworld transitions. Mikami's main contribution was scaling it back to something manageable.

for me it's re3

>>720731210
retard filter