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Anonymous No.723747497 [Report] >>723747894 >>723748167 >>723748283 >>723748646 >>723748978 >>723749862 >>723751053 >>723751694 >>723753041 >>723756405 >>723758057 >>723758435 >>723762870 >>723763257 >>723767364 >>723768684 >>723768970 >>723771691 >>723772545 >>723772587 >>723772665 >>723772765 >>723772907 >>723775573 >>723775794 >>723778382 >>723778810 >>723779189 >>723780389 >>723781448 >>723781567 >>723788771 >>723789170 >>723792390
Final Fantasy Tactics: The Ivalice Chronicles
>Turn-based fans plead for a turn-based game
>Turn-based fans appeased by Yoshi-P
>Turn-based fans didn't buy turn-based game
>Turn-based fans already forgot that turn-based game exists
>Turn-based fans prove Yoshi-P's original sentiment about turn-based games was correct
>Turn-based fans will continue to attack Yoshi-P's integrity

This is the gist of it, right?
Anonymous No.723747894 [Report] >>723748321 >>723761117 >>723761180 >>723789403
>>723747497 (OP)
>only 30 people crying on twitter for FFT
>only 30 people buy FFT
Anonymous No.723748167 [Report] >>723750325 >>723751326
>>723747497 (OP)
Why do people talk about Final Fantasy directors so much? The games are bad because Square Enix has no talent anymore. It's not just one person's fault.
Anonymous No.723748283 [Report] >>723772030
>>723747497 (OP)
>>Turn-based fans prove Yoshi-P's original sentiment about turn-based games was correct
You mean that turn-based fans don't actually buy turn-based games, they are just very obnoxious and very vocal on Twitter, Reddit and /v/?

Yes, you are 100% correct.
Anonymous No.723748298 [Report] >>723748958 >>723773265
>release literally the exact same 20 year old game game except it looks shitter
>expect anything else
Anonymous No.723748321 [Report] >>723748664 >>723752276
>>723747894
Nothing against the game, but why not 8 or 9? Surely there would've been more of an audience for that
Anonymous No.723748646 [Report]
>>723747497 (OP)
>In before "b-but that wasn't real turn-based, bro!"
Anonymous No.723748664 [Report] >>723748856
>>723748321
FFT is just a remaster.
8 received one six years ago.
Anonymous No.723748856 [Report]
>>723748664
8 only got a demaster
Anonymous No.723748925 [Report] >>723749087
No, you don't understand. It has to be a turn-based game with characters of various colours of hair, set in a Japanese high school.
Anonymous No.723748958 [Report] >>723749768 >>723752723 >>723768241
>>723748298
this except it's
>re-re-release the exact same 28 year old game
>it has less content than the last time it got re-released (2007)
>organized shill campaign called anyone a fag if they said they thought this was kinda weird
The QoL shit is nice, and with time mods may make the PC version the definitive way to play, but I wouldn't blame anyone who's already played it for giving Ivalice Chronicles a pass.
Anonymous No.723748978 [Report]
>>723747497 (OP)
Trvke
Anonymous No.723749087 [Report] >>723749465 >>723750947
>>723748925
>JRPG set in high school
>FFT art style
>you can date the teachers
>turn based combat
imagine
Anonymous No.723749465 [Report] >>723749636 >>723751461
>>723749087
You forgot some key ingredients to make it a smash hit:

>misery porn narrative
>sex with mythical creatures
Anonymous No.723749636 [Report] >>723750147 >>723753076
>>723749465
I was going to say that a porn game would never be a smash hit but I bet if there were a high enough budget one, it could happen. Like if AI ever gets good enough for some degenerate coomer to make an RDR2 experience where you play as the Rape Man or a violated heroine.

Future's looking bright.
Anonymous No.723749768 [Report] >>723751492
>>723748958
I mean... wotl had fucking multiplayer (vs and coop) what a fucking downgrade
Anonymous No.723749862 [Report]
>>723747497 (OP)
It's just one schizo on this board who has a hate boner for yoshi p
Anonymous No.723750147 [Report] >>723750202 >>723752080 >>723775862
>>723749636
I was referring to E33 (misery porn) and BG3 (bear bonking).
Anonymous No.723750202 [Report]
>>723750147
Ah, I'm a weeb so that went over my head.
Anonymous No.723750325 [Report] >>723750730 >>723780630
>>723748167
Because honestly Yoshi Piss deserves a bullet to the head
Anonymous No.723750730 [Report]
>>723750325
Hello, saar. Enjoying being brown?
Anonymous No.723750947 [Report] >>723751212
>>723749087
Bro your FFTA snowball fight prologue?
Anonymous No.723751053 [Report]
>>723747497 (OP)
It's the laziest "remake" ever, is anyone shitting on him?
Anonymous No.723751212 [Report]
>>723750947
aren't they like 12
Anonymous No.723751326 [Report] >>723751869 >>723754278
>>723748167
>Square Enix has no talent anymore
LOL this is literally a 1:1 remake of a 30 year old universally acclaimed game, but with voice acting.

Find another excuse.
Anonymous No.723751461 [Report]
>>723749465
>lyrics in half of the soundtrack
Anonymous No.723751492 [Report] >>723767598
>>723749768
Why does the generic geomancer girl seem to get more art than the rest?
Anonymous No.723751694 [Report]
>>723747497 (OP)
They have a habit of censoring their re-releases these days. So even if the graphics may or may not be nicer, you're still buying an inferior product.
Anonymous No.723751869 [Report]
>>723751326
What's so fucking hard to get you dumb fuck. I do not want a 1:1 remake. I do not want a remaster, I do not want a reimagined sequel, I do not want a new FF slop.
Now make me my dream Final Fantasy game! Reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.
Anonymous No.723752080 [Report]
>>723750147
The funny part is a new FF tactics with misery porn and bear bonking could make half a billion if done right. Not by square but somebuddy.
Anonymous No.723752174 [Report]
>BUY OUR PORT OF A 30 YEAR OLD GAME
>SEE, TURN BASED GAMES DONT SELL
>PLEASE LOOK FORWARD TO OUR NEXT GACHA MOBILE GAME
Anonymous No.723752276 [Report] >>723752410
>>723748321
>8
shit game, got a deserving half-assed remaster years ago

>9
got a less half-assed remaster years ago fixed by moguri mod, has a supposed remake coming out which may have been canceled
Anonymous No.723752410 [Report] >>723752893 >>723753969
>>723752276
A good FF8 remake would sell really well but after 7 that'll obviously never happen. And a FF9 remake will never sell well even if it were good kek.

SE is fucking stupid.
Anonymous No.723752723 [Report] >>723773514
>>723748958
I was telling zoom zooms to save 38 bucks and buy war of the loins. For first time players why not.
For vets though, the job patching has made it a completely new game. Magic and guns doing real damage is so unlike the original.
That doesnt even get into the new writing which goes fucking hard. The villian monologues are top tier. The church demon discussing Nietzchie with good voice acting was the best gaming Ive done this year.
Leveling up for hard is FF2 awful, and the 3 man pub jobs are a straight downgrade but overall cant recommend this game enough for oldheads.
Anonymous No.723752893 [Report]
>>723752410
The first 3rd sure would have, not sure about the rest... kek.
Anonymous No.723753041 [Report]
>>723747497 (OP)

They meant they wanted an original turn based game, not a remake of a 30 year old game that already had an upgrade when it released on a portable device 20 years ago. I love FFT but i ain´t going to buy it twice, let alone trice.

The success of E33 and BG3 proves there is a market for both turn based RPGs and CRPGs as long as they are not shameless cashgrabs. Meanwhile FF XVI is a mostly forgotten failure proving Yoshi P was absolutely wrong in his approach. Stay mad.
Anonymous No.723753075 [Report]
Three of my favorite games that I've played this year are turn based (E33, Look Outside, Siralim Ultimate).
Huh. I wonder if its a coincidence that none of them are Japanese.
Anonymous No.723753076 [Report]
>>723749636
How do I find this body type post baby. If you find us pre baby it does not gave a happy ending.
Anonymous No.723753701 [Report] >>723755178
Yoshitpiss is getting raped and gaped by chinks.
Anonymous No.723753927 [Report] >>723754317
Anonymous No.723753969 [Report] >>723754194
>>723752410
t. retard, every re-release of 8/9 after the originals has 9 selling more. 8 sold on the hype of 7 and not getting buried by the ps2/ffx like 9 did
Anonymous No.723754194 [Report]
>>723753969
I'm never wrong
Anonymous No.723754252 [Report] >>723780630
Anonymous No.723754278 [Report] >>723757165
>>723751326
NTA but
>they just copied their work from 30 years ago
is not the best argument for a surplus of talent.
Anonymous No.723754317 [Report]
>>723753927
The funniest thing about Kate is she comes from very rich parents, they live in a mansion in the middle of their own land and yet she's nothing but a commie fuck on social media. It's very much reeks of 'daddy issues'.
Anonymous No.723754459 [Report]
>anooooo
>etoooooo
>we ran out of ze mani
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Anonymous No.723754841 [Report]
Anonymous No.723755021 [Report]
is this the thread?
Anonymous No.723755178 [Report]
>>723753701
Hardly an argument, because most FFXIV players play the game with the Square Enix's own launcher.
Anonymous No.723756083 [Report] >>723756886
Anonymous No.723756162 [Report]
Threadly reminder
Anonymous No.723756282 [Report]
Anonymous No.723756405 [Report] >>723771878
>>723747497 (OP)
I'm simply not paying $50 for ONLY the first FFT.
Anonymous No.723756463 [Report] >>723756984
so does anyone else thinks FFT's story falls apart after chapter 3 (the dam specifically)
Anonymous No.723756489 [Report] >>723756938 >>723772232
>blows budget on gimmick epic boss fights
>20 hours of the game is FFXIV padding
>Gear is like FFXIV where its 'big number'

Damn if only there was a way to gather feedback on a game your making before releasing it.
Anonymous No.723756504 [Report] >>723757176
I bought FFT Ivalice Chronicles on Switch.
Anonymous No.723756738 [Report] >>723756938 >>723756970 >>723759412
Playing FFTactics made me realize that Yoshi P and his team are just Matsuno larpers that just see epic story but when they try to make their own game with a Matsuno vibe to it's just hollow as fuck.

>Hollow combat
>Hollow story
>Hollow RPG mechanics

Peak CBU3.
Anonymous No.723756886 [Report]
>>723756083
Shut your fucking mouth. Well I agree, they are the only reason Square keeps the lights on.
Anonymous No.723756938 [Report] >>723757469
>>723756738
>>723756489
I dunno what autism is required to enjoy Yoshi P games but I don't have it. Tried playing FF14 for 100 hours and FF16 for like 20 and they just do not for the life of me click at all.
Anonymous No.723756970 [Report] >>723757748
>>723756738
Nah, story was peak. Agree with the rest though.
Anonymous No.723756984 [Report]
>>723756463
I think it's pretty much consensus that the further FFT moves away from the political intrigue and towards
>ancient evil awakens, stop the bad man from summoning the demons
the weaker the story gets.
Anonymous No.723757165 [Report] >>723783550
>>723754278
This is about the 1:1 Final Fantasy Tactics Remake though, so the argument about a lack of talent doesn't apply.

Anyway, Remake, Rebirth and FFXVI prove that SE has acquired a lot of talent after a dry spout.
Anonymous No.723757176 [Report]
>>723756504
No you didn't.
Anonymous No.723757469 [Report]
>>723756938
CBU3 are the slowest to react to feedback. Meanwhile Hoyoverse slop gets updated frequently whilst CBU3 devs focus on the graphical update, and even when they do react to feedback they respond in the most retarded way.

>Bozja could be better, got it lets start fresh on the next one and make it retarded
>Criterion Dungeons have shitty rewards, got it we'll slightly move the needle by giving you more rewards
>Instead of using the currency menu we'll fill your inventory with the currency
>Not many people do hard content, aight check this quantum difficulty you can adjust the difficulty but the rewards are ass.

Peak retard studio.
Anonymous No.723757748 [Report] >>723758074
>>723756970
Honestly if you cut all the filler then sure, its like they wrote the story and realised they didn't have enough for a 40 hour game and said, bet; what if we make Clive get badges so people will talk to him or some other BS.

It would've been nice to let you at least play as Jill, Cid and Joshua. The playable Joshua portion got my hopes up but then as the game went on holy.
Anonymous No.723758057 [Report] >>723761009
>>723747497 (OP)
>implying everyone wanted a turnbased STRATEGY game from 30 years ago
Kill yourself
Anonymous No.723758074 [Report] >>723758292 >>723758563 >>723758663 >>723759008
>>723757748
The one man teams go back to the shit gameplay. Yoshi P himself said this was just one big expensive add for FF14, thats why it had an awful single player MMO feel.
The part that concerns me is will the next one be built in the lessons learned, or just a CHEAP add for FF14.
Anonymous No.723758292 [Report]
>>723758074
I think the new Pokémon answers that.
Anonymous No.723758435 [Report]
>>723747497 (OP)
>shit out some ai slop filter of a 20 year old beloved game
>get mad when nobody buys this crap
No, his point wasn't proven at all.
Anonymous No.723758563 [Report] >>723758679
>>723758074
Based on how FFXIV expansions are developed I doubt it. Like the lessons learned should've been learned during development. Like no one stopped and said 'Shouldn't our combat have some RPG-esque elements?'.

I was playing GoW Ragnarok and FFXVI at the same time. Hated GoW's gameplay but the game at least had some decision making on how you built Kratos.
Anonymous No.723758663 [Report]
>>723758074
CBU3 has released like 4 expansions now for FFXIV and none of them were built based on lessons learnt.
Anonymous No.723758679 [Report]
>>723758563
They could've at least given Claude other weapons like a Spear and a bigger Knightsword.
Just copied DMC why not copy Devil Arms and mix with classic FF jobs. Even SoP did that.
Anonymous No.723758828 [Report] >>723772662
>Barely develop enough content for 3 months patch cycle
>Extend the patch cycle to 4 months without providing more content
>FY25 profits down

How could've they known?
Anonymous No.723759008 [Report] >>723759179
>>723758074
I wouldn't trust Yoshi P to make another mainline game. The FFVII Remake series had more soul.
Anonymous No.723759179 [Report] >>723759401
>>723759008
The only thing wrong with FFXVI was the lack of exploration, lack or RPG elements and no party-based combat. It is a very good game, just not a very good Final Fantasy title.
Anonymous No.723759401 [Report]
>>723759179
If you cut out the surface level open world, surface level rpg mechanics and just made it a linear action game I would like it more.

All the bloat they added to it felt very patronizing.
Anonymous No.723759412 [Report]
>>723756738
It's monkey see monkey do without understanding the intelligence and effort put into the original work.
Anonymous No.723761009 [Report] >>723761069
>>723758057
Are you implying that nobody wants a Chrono Trigger Remake either? kek
Anonymous No.723761069 [Report] >>723761356
>>723761009
Not made by the same people so why bother.
Anonymous No.723761117 [Report]
>>723747894
I would have bought but not for that price
Anonymous No.723761180 [Report] >>723771878
>>723747894
>$50USD for an enhanced edition of a niche game that sold poorly on initial release
>No one buys it

Damn.
Anonymous No.723761356 [Report] >>723762747
>>723761069
A bunch of the original developers are still at Square Enix. This includes the director team lead by Kitase himself.
Anonymous No.723762747 [Report]
>>723761356
they're all hacks now
Anonymous No.723762870 [Report]
>>723747497 (OP)
Maybe they should have made a new game or even remade something that hasn't already been remade and ported to literally every console.
Anonymous No.723763257 [Report]
>>723747497 (OP)
Just finished my second playthrough and Midlight's Deep on Tactician.
Great Remaster.
Anonymous No.723765284 [Report] >>723766259
This is really the only Tactics thread up? Lol
Anonymous No.723766259 [Report]
>>723765284
there is another one
Anonymous No.723767364 [Report]
>>723747497 (OP)
The remake looks ugly as fuck. That UI alone is a disgrace. Those character sprites are an act agaisnt God.

You'll never catch me paying money for this.
Anonymous No.723767598 [Report]
>>723751492
A complete mystery innit?
Anonymous No.723768241 [Report]
>>723748958
This, it honestly feels like a slap to the face thanks to the price alone, if it was 19 bucks then I might have considered buying it just for the QoL on its own but I'm not willing to pay 50 bucks for a shinier version of the PSP release with all of the cool new shit cut out, especially since I've owned that version of the game since 2008.

Out of spite, I recently downloaded the PSP version just so that I could replay the game on my chinkheld instead of paying SE for another complete misjudgment of their own consumer base, at best I'll buy it on sale for 9.99 if there are enough worthwhile mods released for it and I recommend that anyone who is even slightly interested in the game does the same thing
Anonymous No.723768684 [Report]
>>723747497 (OP)
we boughted digimon instead.
Anonymous No.723768821 [Report]
I'd really love to know what sparked the hatred this one particular sperg has for Yoshida.
Anonymous No.723768970 [Report] >>723771359
>>723747497 (OP)
They shouldn't have remastered a game that already has a definitive edition on the PSP. Or for $50 at least remaster all of the games in the series and sell them in one collection. They could probably even sell it for $70 at that point.
Anonymous No.723770232 [Report] >>723770278 >>723770408
So did they add anything worthwhile to play it over PS1 version?
Anonymous No.723770278 [Report]
>>723770232
voice acting
that's it
Anonymous No.723770408 [Report]
>>723770232
Not really
Anonymous No.723771359 [Report] >>723771536 >>723771756 >>723771775 >>723771901 >>723772325
>>723768970
>Ask for turn-based games
>Complain when you get them
There is no group more entitled and obnoxious than turn-based fans.
Anonymous No.723771536 [Report]
>>723771359
retard
Anonymous No.723771691 [Report] >>723772157
>>723747497 (OP)
I'll get it during a steep sale, but fuck paying full price for a stripped down port of a PS1 game. Cutting the WotL content was a major blunder on Squeenix's part.
Anonymous No.723771756 [Report]
>>723771359
Go easy on them, anon. They're an old, grumpy and brown bunch.
Anonymous No.723771775 [Report]
>>723771359
i ask for games, not remasters
Anonymous No.723771848 [Report] >>723780630
Reminder: Every anti‑YoshiP post is made by Barry and his bot army. Don’t reply, don’t engage. Just spam sneed and watch him seethe.
Anonymous No.723771878 [Report] >>723772497 >>723773235
>>723756405
>>723761180
>Gaming when FFT released
500,000 Americans and Japanese asking for games, devs listening
>Gaming now
700,000 Americans and Japanese asking for games being drowned out by 20 million poors asking for games they wont buy
Anonymous No.723771901 [Report]
>>723771359
i bought this game in 1999 though
Anonymous No.723771935 [Report] >>723773024 >>723789358 >>723792063
>looking forward to new Agrias’s new dialogue
>it’s just a 30 minute rant about subverting gender norms
>in a world where men and women have routinely fought together on the battlefield since time immemorial
Um, okay.
Anonymous No.723772030 [Report] >>723772162
>>723748283
Expedition 33 outsold both FFXVI and Rebirth thoughbeit
Anonymous No.723772072 [Report]
>shit up game with dogshit uoscale, rewritten dialogue and added woke shit
>didn't keep anything good from wotl

Yeah no fucking shit I'm not going to buy it. I won't buy another fucking thing from SE until yoshit, Kate and co are shot canned
All they had to do was rerelease wotl but for pc, with bug fixes and maybe some concept art pack, not this slop
Anonymous No.723772157 [Report] >>723772819
>>723771691
If you want Final Fantasy XVII to be turn-based, then you had better buy it... which you won't, because turn-based stans don't buy turn-based games.
Anonymous No.723772162 [Report]
>>723772030
Not FFXVI but they are very similar saleswise.
Rebirth it outsold 2x over, yes.
Anonymous No.723772232 [Report]
>>723756489
>20 hours of the game is FFXIV padding
That's being insanely generous
Anonymous No.723772325 [Report] >>723772691
>>723771359
>Ask for turn-based games
>Don't complain. Just don't buy it because that game was already remastered with more content
Anonymous No.723772497 [Report]
>>723771878
>20 million poors asking for games they wont buy
Check out Steam forums. The browns are complaining non-stop, because the game has Denuvo DRM. kek
Anonymous No.723772545 [Report]
>>723747497 (OP)
>>blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah
>>blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah
>>blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah
>>Turn-based fans already forgot that turn-based game exists
>>blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah
>>blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah
>This is the gist of it, right?
Yeah, I guess so. Shut up, fag.
Anonymous No.723772587 [Report] >>723774074 >>723775394
>>723747497 (OP)
HOLY SHIT, HE'S REAL!?
Anonymous No.723772662 [Report]
>>723758828
>Pretend to make an MMORPG by copying WoW just really lazily
>It has all the drawbacks of being an MMO
>It has none of the advantages of being an RPG
>It has none of the advantages of being a story focused Final Fantasy game
>It doesn't get updated or upgraded in over 12 years.
How could they have known this would happen?
Anonymous No.723772665 [Report]
>>723747497 (OP)
Yoshi P caused it to flop. Nobody trusts him after Dawntrail and XVI.
Barry was right again.
Anonymous No.723772691 [Report]
>>723772325
Hopefully they release DLC for Final Fantasy Tactics. The endless whining will be fun to watch.
Anonymous No.723772765 [Report] >>723773146
>>723747497 (OP)
Casuals aren't turn based fans. Turn based fans did buy the game, problem is turn based is a niche market. I actually hadn't realised just how niche it is, but I should have known considering people pay out the ass for garbage like souls games and soulslikes.
Anonymous No.723772819 [Report]
>>723772157
I'm not a turn-troon, I like all kinds of games.
Anonymous No.723772907 [Report]
>>723747497 (OP)
They bought DQ3HD though. Final Fantasy is a dead franchise.
Anonymous No.723773024 [Report] >>723773364 >>723778997
>>723771935
>oh cool, Agrias and Wiegraf have dialogue now. I wonder what they talk about.
>"I HATE YOU BECAUSE YOUR FAMILY HAS MONEY!"
I would like the new dialogue more if they actually did more than just read their character sheets to each other. I already knew that Agrias was noble and proud, that Gaffgarion was a chauvinist, and that Wiegraf resented the aristocracy. Problem is, they cut the WotL cutscenes out, and there's only so much they can do with a few new lines stuck into the middle of battles.
Mustadio's interaction with Alma was kind of cute though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGVXkittEdg
Anonymous No.723773097 [Report] >>723773157 >>723773207 >>723773305 >>723774559
Hope you realize the devs are working really hard on a the graphical update (it's still not finished).
Anonymous No.723773146 [Report] >>723773249
>>723772765
"Casuals don't buy turn based games." -Yoshi-P, probably.
Anonymous No.723773157 [Report]
>>723773097
soul / soulless
Anonymous No.723773207 [Report]
>>723773097
Impressive Yoshi P however...
Anonymous No.723773235 [Report]
>>723771878
I never thought about it but you're right.
Gaming and the Internet have become much shittier since the poos got access to social media.
Anonymous No.723773249 [Report] >>723773361 >>723773574
>>723773146
He's right, Pokemon sells well in spite of being turn-based, not because of it.
Anonymous No.723773265 [Report]
>>723748298
>expect anything else
I expect there to be a resurgence in fanart/porn and I'm not disappointed even tho it's mostly AI. There's no 3D models to rip.

Nier Automata needs a remake, so we can get higher quality porn.
Anonymous No.723773305 [Report]
>>723773097
Love all the LL's where its yoshi p trying to sell poeple on the graphical update with these screenshots.
Anonymous No.723773361 [Report] >>723773610 >>723774021 >>723775457
>>723773249
Even if that's the case your cope does not explain the success of so many other turn-based JRPGs.
Anonymous No.723773364 [Report]
>>723773024
Reis and Beowulf have a really cute dialogue together in the final battle.
Anonymous No.723773421 [Report] >>723773471 >>723773476 >>723774474 >>723775753 >>723775964
So is there a good reason why they didn't add an option to make JP boost permanent, or just buff JP rates entirely?

I'd love to spend my time in the early game actually playing the classes I have, instead of making everyone throw rocks at eachother - they rebalanced Chemist to have better passive Treasure Hunter rates, surely they could've done something for Squire, right?
Anonymous No.723773471 [Report]
>>723773421
I'm 90% sure they did buff JP gain by increasing the spillover your party gets from each other
Anonymous No.723773476 [Report]
>>723773421
It's a short game already. Enjoy the grind while it lasts.
Anonymous No.723773514 [Report]
>>723752723
War of the Loins is a great fucking title. Would check it out if it existed.
Anonymous No.723773574 [Report]
>>723773249
Square's tried everything but a turn-based Final Fantasy, would've thought CBU3 being the most unimaginative dev team would play to their strengths and make ff16 turn based but instead we got 40 hour devil may cry with mid combat.
Anonymous No.723773610 [Report] >>723773780 >>723784884
>>723773361
What success? Metaphor Refantazio hasn't even cleared 3 million copies sold.
Anonymous No.723773780 [Report] >>723774784
>>723773610
How about Dragon Quest? Square has announced the latest mainline entry sold over 8 million copies. Will XVI ever reach half that? I doubt it personally.
Anonymous No.723774021 [Report] >>723774053 >>723774292
>>723773361
You really think the combat is what gets people to play Persona?
Anonymous No.723774053 [Report] >>723774292
>>723774021
Since the combat apparently doesn't matter for any franchise why did FF have to change it
Anonymous No.723774074 [Report]
>>723772587
What am I going to do with a Yoshi Piss statue?
Anonymous No.723774292 [Report]
>>723774021
I don't think turn based combat is that important either, and I think most people like action combat. People like JRPGs for the whole package but mostly the non-combat related things.

>>723774053
It was a great idea to change it when they had Versus on the table but we all know how that turned out. FF with KH combat would still be great but alas.
Anonymous No.723774474 [Report]
>>723773421
Anonymous No.723774559 [Report]
>>723773097
lalas won the graphics update. the biggest change is that you now have lips even if you don't have dark lipstick on
Anonymous No.723774784 [Report]
>>723773780
>Will XVI ever reach half that? I doubt it personally
Yes? It sold 3 million copies in its first week, so it has almost certainly sold half as much as DQ11 by this point in time.
Anonymous No.723775394 [Report]
>>723772587
Does it come enchanted with a piece of Yoshi-P's soul?
Anonymous No.723775457 [Report] >>723775949
>>723773361
Metaphor actually didn't do very well, despite the rave reviews. It seems to be missing high-school teenagers and horny MILF teachers.
Anonymous No.723775573 [Report]
>>723747497 (OP)
Bought and enjoying it but lets not pretend people meant spinoffs like tactics when they asked for turnbased FF to return
Its not a mainline, it was never going to get mainline numbers
Anonymous No.723775615 [Report]
Some people here for sure are obsessed with yoshi-p.
Anonymous No.723775695 [Report]
tactics games are so fucking boring
Anonymous No.723775753 [Report]
>>723773421
>man_standing_up_in_a_crowd_to_announce_an_unpopular_opinion.png
I liked that the original game had the JP scroll glitch, so that I could master jobs quickly if I felt like it, and the only thing keeping me from moving on to another job when I wanted to was whether or not I had enough of the right job levels, or the job I wanted to master wasn't scrollable.
I also like mods that include innate JP Boost for all units. I'm sure they will make those for IC eventually.
Anonymous No.723775794 [Report]
>>723747497 (OP)
FF16 was dei slop
Anonymous No.723775862 [Report]
>>723750147
The druid should had shapped into a loli instead
Anonymous No.723775949 [Report] >>723776769 >>723780630
>>723775457
>New IP's initial sales figures are similar to industry titan FFXVI
>This means it 'actually didn't do well'
Anonymous No.723775964 [Report]
>>723773421
It's your own fault for doing that. Never grinded a single bit and finished the game without problems. Maybe stop using guides lol
Anonymous No.723776769 [Report] >>723777160 >>723779058
>>723775949
3 million copies of FFXVI were sold in a week on a single platform. Metaphor performed substantially worse.
Anonymous No.723777160 [Report] >>723777535 >>723777647
>>723776769
>40million PS5s
>3 million copies sold

There's many ways to define success I guess.
Anonymous No.723777535 [Report] >>723778067
>>723777160
And Metaflop had access to considerably larger markets and still underperformed, so what's your point?
Anonymous No.723777578 [Report]
E33 and Baldur's Gate 3 prove turn based isn't the issue. It's a developer skill issue.
Anonymous No.723777647 [Report]
>>723777160
>150 million monthly active users on Steam
>50 million PS5 consoles
>120 million PS4 consoles
>30 million Xbox consoles
>only 2 million copies of Metaphor sold in one year
Right back at ya.
Anonymous No.723777679 [Report]
>avatarfagging in a tactics thread
never doubt how bored this niggas is
Anonymous No.723778005 [Report] >>723778392 >>723788504
Metaphor sucked shit and still won.
Anonymous No.723778067 [Report]
>>723777535
The point is random new ips almost sell as many copies than the biggest franchise because the gameplay and setting is so shit
Anonymous No.723778382 [Report]
>>723747497 (OP)
Go woke go broke.
Anonymous No.723778389 [Report]
I bought FFT a couple weeks ago and barely played it, but I've been hooked on indie game recently so I'm just disappointed that I gave SE money on a blind purchase hoping that DLC or modding overhauls actually come out to make it interesting
Anonymous No.723778392 [Report] >>723778505 >>723778749 >>723778832 >>723788504
>>723778005
You lost.

Square Enix is even considering a fourth game, after the trilogy is completed.
Anonymous No.723778505 [Report] >>723778660
>>723778392
Sold so well they cancelled the Vincent DLC and still haven't announced how many sales they have. Meanwhile DQ3 gets heaps of praise from SE for a measly 2 million sales.
Anonymous No.723778638 [Report]
Looking at the plebs bickering amongst themselves about who flopped less...
Anonymous No.723778660 [Report] >>723778807
>>723778505
You failed to mention that the DLC was cancelled long before Rebirth even released.
Anonymous No.723778749 [Report]
>>723778392
is that not what the unnneded crisis core remaster was already?
Anonymous No.723778807 [Report]
>>723778660
The CEO saw an internal build of the game and knew it would flop so they precancelled the dlc.
Anonymous No.723778810 [Report]
>>723747497 (OP)
>Denuvo
sorry im just not gonna buy it on principle
Anonymous No.723778832 [Report]
>>723778392
>Square Enix is even considering a fourth game
HOLY SHIT IT IS REAL

A fourth game would be freaking awesome.
Anonymous No.723778997 [Report]
>>723773024
>"I HATE YOU BECAUSE YOUR FAMILY HAS MONEY!"
Just basic commie things
Anonymous No.723779058 [Report]
>>723776769
And only 500k additional sales since launch. Negative word of mouth has sealed Barry's victory.
Anonymous No.723779156 [Report] >>723779634
>re-release game in state that has less content than previous re-release
>nothing new for fans
>not a sequel where you get to go on grand adventures and slowmance agrias or a generic of your choosing
>no happy ending for your chars where they are all happy and their stories are conclusively wrapped up instead of a fucked up tragedy

literally why would i ever bother
Anonymous No.723779189 [Report]
>>723747497 (OP)
is this something to do with game of the year being E33? some sorta cope, seethe?
i don't get it.
Anonymous No.723779634 [Report] >>723780372
>>723779156
>nothing new for fans
What about for the zoomers, that have never played it?
Anonymous No.723780372 [Report]
>>723779634
Zoomers don't play turn-based games. It is a genre for boomers and women. lol
Anonymous No.723780389 [Report]
>>723747497 (OP)
I don't like the artstyle and while it is turn based it's also like Fire Emblem which I don't like
Anonymous No.723780630 [Report] >>723781382
>>723750325
>>723754252
>>723771848
Yeah the anti-YoshiP threads are getting annoying.

>>723775949
I think a spinoff collaboration with Spirits Within would be nice to have. Think of the cool glamours, minions, and mounts.
Anonymous No.723781382 [Report]
>>723780630
I think they're fine
Gonna cry?
Anonymous No.723781448 [Report]
>>723747497 (OP)
Final fantasy is dead
Anonymous No.723781567 [Report] >>723781808
>>723747497 (OP)
>I want a turn based game
>here's a re-rerelease of a 30 year old game for 50 dollars!
>no, I played that ages ago
>SO YOU DON'T ACTUALLY WANT TURN BASED THEN
Anonymous No.723781808 [Report] >>723782269 >>723789542 >>723795559
>>723781567
>I want a turn based game
>here's a re-release of a 30 year old game and several new DQ and SaGA and Bravely and Triangle and Octopath games
>NOOOOOOOOOOO NOT LIKE THAT
Anonymous No.723782269 [Report] >>723782327 >>723791782 >>723792584
>>723781808
These games are mostly boring and lack sauce. When people say "oh we want turn based" they don't mean literally "make an SNES game in 1920x1080", they mean make a game that looks and feels modern but have it be turn based which is what Persona and E33 did and look, they were successful just fine, but not because of being turn-based, but because of being high quality. ATLUS didn't literally just take Persona 1 script and look and did it again but Team Asano and DQfags seem content with just that.
Anonymous No.723782327 [Report] >>723783315
>>723782269
Isn't E33 Super Mario RPG made with ugly Unreal store assets?
Anonymous No.723783315 [Report] >>723783869 >>723787390 >>723788547
>>723782327
Store assets may make most UE5 games look similar, but they are not "ugly". Same for excessive particle effects.
Superlatives shouldn't be taken literally.
Anonymous No.723783550 [Report]
>>723757165
You'd be onto something if you dropped FFXVI.
Anonymous No.723783869 [Report]
>>723783315
they are ugly
Anonymous No.723784884 [Report]
>>723773610
So it's sold almost as much as FF16 despite looking like a PS2 game? Sounds like action games have no appeal either. Just look at Ninja Gaiden.
Anonymous No.723787390 [Report]
>>723783315
There are many reasons, why UE5 looks like vomit. The asset store is probably one of them.
Anonymous No.723788504 [Report]
>>723778392
>>723778005
both games suck
Anonymous No.723788547 [Report]
>>723783315
I think they're ugly. I guess most people don't since I often see praise for new unreal trash from normies but I would probably be able to argue that these people don't actually think.
Anonymous No.723788771 [Report]
>>723747497 (OP)
>remake I already played twice
>pay 50 bucks for less content than the PSP version
not buying
Anonymous No.723789170 [Report]
>>723747497 (OP)
Can someone explain to me why the team for this remaster is so touchy about what WotL content they want to preserve and stuff? Like aren't they all square enix? Did whoever was in charge of WotL get into their bad books over the years or something? The whole thing just seems dumb to me like why would you even hand off a title like this to someone you don't trust in the first place.
Anonymous No.723789358 [Report] >>723792187
>>723771935
The funny thing is their special snowflake changes that try to memory hole the PSP version only entrench gender norms even harder in gameplay
>dark knight doesn't exist so female characters can't access move+3 at all
>this was balanced by the op perfumes and ribbons only being female equippable - but now they are unisex so males are just strictly better
Anonymous No.723789403 [Report] >>723791542
>>723747894
>ai upscaled garbage at premium price with DLCs
Yeah fuck this fuck square
Anonymous No.723789542 [Report]
>>723781808
>and several new DQ and SaGA
aren't those also just ports of 30 year old games?
Anonymous No.723791542 [Report]
>>723789403
the sprites are not ai upscaled, nothing in the remaster is upscaled
Anonymous No.723791782 [Report]
>>723782269
SE still makes tons of turn-based games. They might make an RPG in Atlus' style one day, but I don't think that RPG will be Final Fantasy XVII.
Anonymous No.723792063 [Report]
>>723771935
>Routinely
Agrias isn't just the only actual female knight besides Meliadoul, she stands out if you have enough historical knowledge to know that female knight 'knights' wasn't really a thing. Women did defend themselves and some noble females fought but this was usually due to them fighting alongside their husbands or due to extremely stressful situations such as men being away at that time.
Anonymous No.723792187 [Report] >>723792470 >>723793245
>>723789358
>but now they are unisex so males are just strictly better
this doesn't really matter because you were already using males for melee jobs and females for casters
Anonymous No.723792390 [Report]
>>723747497 (OP)
No, I just won't buy a turn-based game from yoshida. I know he sucks and I hate remakes. yoshi-p is a failure
Anonymous No.723792426 [Report]
FFT 2 soon
Anonymous No.723792470 [Report] >>723792626
>>723792187
there are basically no relevant casters except for geomancer/samurai, though even that is kind of ramza's niche since that's a dual scaling setup and he's the only character with both male and female scaling perks. So now not only are female characters bad they're further hobbled with only move+2.
I'm not counting arithmeticks because that's basically on an entire tier of its own and more like a fun cheat code than something the game is balanced around (for what little balance there is).
Anonymous No.723792584 [Report]
>>723782269
>but not because of being turn-based, but because of being high quality
You call high school slice of weaboo life with waifus and QTEs with dollar store assets and subar platforming "quality"?
Anonymous No.723792626 [Report] >>723794747
>>723792470
>there are basically no relevant casters except for geomancer/samurai
???? black mage is one of the best jobs in the entire game what the actual fuck are you talking about
Anonymous No.723793245 [Report]
>>723792187
Speak for yourself
Anonymous No.723794747 [Report] >>723794836
>>723792626
too slow, only good for bullying the ai on.
Anonymous No.723794836 [Report]
>>723794747
well youre just wrong
Anonymous No.723795559 [Report]
>>723781808
I was never going to play SE slop regardless of it being turn based or not. But I would atleast look at it if it were turn based.