Thread 724032039

YOU
BOUGHT
IT
ANYWAY

https://corporate.pokemon.co.jp/PostImages/pokemon_pressreleases_20251023_2.pdf

>Pokémon Scarlet and Violet sold over 10 million copies in the first three days
>Pokémon Sword and Shield sold more than 6 million copies worldwide during their launch weekend
>Pokémon Legends: Arceus sold 6.5 million copies worldwide in its first week
Some people actually didn't buy it.

I didn't.. But I'm really disappointed in humanity. Why does slop succeed?

>>724032039 (OP)
Unless it sells 30M like Palworld pokemon lost.

Based, another victory to pokechads.
Now we just need to wait for Palworld cancellation and EOS.
I fucking love pokemon.

Pokemon is fun niggas

>>724032662
Videogames aren't a serious or even respected hobby, no one cares about what a gamer would call "slop", they just want entertainment.

>>724032662
Because poketards are indoctrinated at an early age to eat slop and they gladly do so unless they manage to break free. Many don't like op and all the poketards that are going to run in here to gloat and defend.

>>724032039 (OP)
>MY INSIDER SOURCES TELL ME POKEMON ZA IS SELLING AT 40% OF ARCEUS

So was this just a bald faced lie?

>>724032039 (OP)
with those numbers, im sure there are enough retards on this site who did indeed bought it.

LITERALLY A THOUSAND MORE YEARS OF POKESLOP SHOVELWARE

THIS IS THE PATH WE CHOSE

>>724032039 (OP)
>all the red flags shown in trailers, gameplay clips and leaks and people still boughted it

Pokefag have zero standards and GF is fully aware of it. At least the hentai will be good.

>>724032606
But this pokemon game looks like the cheapest one yet, so they'll come out ahead

>>724032791
Well I don't mind more pokemon games, it's just that the game could be much better without the cut corners.

>>724033006
It shows interest in the IP waning when there are more Switch consoles than ever but it sold worse than the previous Legends game. A following game will probably perform even worse if it's more of the same and low budget.

>>724032039 (OP)
Of course, they brought it. It's Pokémon. This thing was gonna sell no matter what, even if there was actual shit in the case.

>>724032662
>Why does slop succeed?
That's not quite the correct question you should be asking. The real question is "Why are the things that succeed almost always slop?". Just look through lists of the best selling games each year, almost everything on these is garbage.

>>724033186
I think it's a multitude of factors. Comparing anything to the switch era is difficult since COVID gave a huge boost and tariffs/inflation haven't fucked up the global economy yet. PS5 and Xbox X sales and software attach rate are both abysmal compared to previous gens.

>>724032606
>Pokémon Scarlet and Violet sold over 10 million copies in the first three days
The fact that this is the one that sold the most is fuckign wild to me. It was easily the worst fucking one.

>>724033520
An interesting thing OP left out is that about half the sales were on the Switch 2 so the attach rate for the Switch 2 was crazy. But for the Switch 1, it's obviously surprisingly low. Software sales in general seem to be dropping though for sure.

>>724032606
>>724033186
>>724033717
Half the sales were on the Switch 2, despite everyone and their mother having a Switch already. And they haven't run out of stock for physical copies either.
People obviously want to buy the game on Switch 2, but it's a new console in high demand and Christmas is 2 months away. There is certainly a significant population of consumers who are waiting to get their Switch 2 to buy this game.

>have a famitsu thread to contain sales talk
>Nintendo fans just spam threads anyway

>>724033006
It looks higher budget than Arceus.

>>724034962
Because the game is unplayable on the Switch 1. For all the game's problems it does at least technically run at a consistent frame rate on the Switch 2.

>>724035259
This sales data has nothing to do with famitsu sales data

>>724032039 (OP)
It's inevitable. SwSh and SV are the second and third best selling games in the franchise despite being two of the absolute worst.
I only buy the spinoffs but they haven't made a good one since New Snap...

>>724032039 (OP)
LOL and this is just the spinoff. Wait until the Next Gen Pokemon in development releases for NS2

>>724033631
It came out towards the tail end of the open world trend and the tail end of the COVID craze.
>>724032606
Also keep in mind
>Switch 1 user base is bigger now than when Arceus came out
>This game is bundled with Switch 2 and is technically cheaper on Switch 2 because of that
>Releasing close to the Holidays when Arceus was in January

>>724035394
(It is arceus)

>>724035551
>the game is unplayable on the Switch 1
no it isn't lol
It's significantly better on the Switch 2 but it's not at all as bad as SV was
>it does at least technically run at a consistent frame rate
That's a weird cope way of phrasing the fact that it holds 1080p 60fps

>>724032039 (OP)
lmao they lost sales

>>724032039 (OP)
>When the original GB game had more freedom of movement and choice
>When your company spends more on lawsuits than making your game

>>724032039 (OP)
>/v/ pretending that they didnt buy it
>youtube making their bait thumbnails with angry miyamoto
>social media malding like the sw/sh tree days
It's the best pokemon game + combat hands down, even the online is good, feels great to enjoy it while everyone's pretending to be mad

>>724033631
It's the most fun nupokemon game despite being the least polished and running like shit. In reality as long as the game can actually run(see monhun wilds where it doesn't work on PC) people don't really give a shit about how well it runs. New Vegas gets sucked off every day yet the game is tied together with the dreams of a dying orphan child in cambodia.

>>724035776
this honestly says a lot about the modern pokemon fandom they always use copium terms like (its fun when you don't got bitches yelling in you're ears) or (let people have fun) or even worse (They're haters)

it's genuinely sad how far society would go for most "potential man or series in the case" in the world

>>724036009
>>724035997
>look at us having fun
>that's why every single thread is just wanking sales or posting porn

Real fans buy games

>>724036147
Why wouldn't they, their franchise has a whole board

>>724036260
real fans also criticize games thoughbeit

>>724032039 (OP)
No, I didn't.

>>724036147
Actual discussion will be on /vp/, there are playthrough and wifi generals. Pokemon threads on /v/ are primarily ragebait.

>Around 2 to 2.4m Switch 2 sales already
Fucking nice

>>724032039 (OP)
>YOU
>BOUGHT
>IT
>ANYWAY
no i didn't tranny, i haven't owned a tendoid product in decades and i never will again.

>>724036341
>actual discussion
Porn spam is not discussion thoughbeit.

>>724036417
Oh, you're the Shartyjeet.

>>724036449
>>724036341
Gameplay discussion, you say?

>>724035996
>when you lose and are forced to cope

>>724036349
You replied anyway
>>724036417
>>724036473
r34

>>724032606
That's basically 11% drop which isn't too bad but it shows that gamefreak is certainly starting to lose some people. They'll probably won't notice even if sales started dropping by 50% because as long as it sells more than a million copies it's profitable.

>>724036602
If only there was a way to post without bumping a thread...

>>724032039 (OP)
It’s genuinely so depressing. I wanna rant and bitch about a million things but like it’s just so legitimately upsetting on so many levels. The average gamer just really doesn’t care at all if games are made well or look good or are fun or different; they’re just drawn to brands and popular things like flies to shit, and so much as there is something tantalising in the promos and it doesn’t look egregiously bad they’ll happily drop fuck loads of money on anything. I thought after the 7th and 8th gen of gaming people would be far more sceptical with what they spend their money on but nope, now it’s easier than ever to convince people to play absolutely fucking terrible games because gaming has become so normalised that normies are now the core market and they’ll spend money on anything so long as it’s advertised enough. ZA never looked good even from the promos and teasers, but people bought it anyway. I follow people on social media that said it looks bad but still bought it. There are streamers who bought it just because you can customise your character a little more than the previous game who only did one stream of the game and then dropped it. I have a coworker from work who told me she bought it + a switch 2 because she thought some of the characters were cute and just wanted to look at them and she laughed saying she doesn’t even really like games. We really are at the stage people will just buy pokemon because it’s pokemon; there’s no higher base thoughts beyond that. No analysis. No thinking. Just pure unquestioning brand loyalty and a desire for familiarity, and Pokemon isnt even the only brand that’s like this.

I don’t buy or participate in any of these terrible looking games but they keep raking in money and replacing the things I actually like. I actually spend money on games I give a shit about and try to talk about them /here/ but it never does any good and they always come up short. It just sucks man

>>724037230
>typing all that shit no one is going to read
You have Z-A derangement syndrome

>>724037336
Doesn’t make it any less true

>>724037230
adam sandler movies sell tickets and you don't see film buffs surprised, general audiences don't care about quality, that's why they're general audiences. You and I are like that too towards other mediums we aren't enthusiasts in

>>724032039 (OP)
Nothing will ever change
GF will coast forever
Pokemon games will never be good

>>724037432
Wouldn't know, didn't read.

>>724037230
AAA games have to be abandoned for this reason. Literally guaranteed to be slop

>>724032606
Let’s Go did 3M with 25M Switch units sold. This did 5.8 with around 10M

NINTENDOMINATION

>>724032039 (OP)
B-But muh metacritic score...

>>724038170
5.8M counting Switch 1 sales. It's a number close to 3M on Switch 2.

>>724032039 (OP)
The McDonald’s of video games

>>724032039 (OP)
Dude theres 8 BILLION people on the planet, there's a high chance that people here didn't buy it

>>724032710
Most of those were players and not sales, also it killed Xbox so it flopped.

>>724032606
Pokesisters I don't feel so good...

>>724040230
>2 lies
Just how hard are you coping right now?

>>724032039 (OP)
The game isn’t even bad, the grift failed

>>724037459
"movie buffs" are entirely buck broken by now.
they cant even evade towards independent shit because that scene is much smaller and weaker than with games and they put all of their eggs into the hollywood basket which is beyond saving now.
and because movies are so much shorter than games its also much easier to deplete what is there.

>>724032039 (OP)
I quite like it though

>>724032606
its a start.

Lawsuit when?

>>724032039 (OP)
>>724041225
The sheer lazy audacity kind of makes it based. They just don't care. You still bought it. You will always buy it.

>>724040603
>The game isn’t even bad
What about it is redeeming?

what should i name my shiny starmie

>>724032039 (OP)
Bought it anyways? What's the issue with Z-A?

>>724032902
no it was real, it was just phyiscal and in the uk
ie nothing

>>724032039 (OP)
i pirated it though

>>724032039 (OP)
It's weird how you believe people should obey your constant bitch yapping. Dangerous even.

>>724032039 (OP)
Sad but predictable

>>724032039 (OP)
*units shipped (estimated by AI)
Fixed that for you, faggot

I goomed to these news.

>>724037230
Pokemon is cool, make a better game or get bent.

>>724032039 (OP)
Yeah man I know I did. I wanted to play it.

>>724036602
>r34
Not a real thing.

>>724042348
>please tell me things I will just refuse I have been doing that all year surely you will fall for it and I can post my pepe again to prove my tribe still won

>>724036473
>4 threads total
>from the tribe that post 5 PER HOUR ordering the universe to hate any other brand.

>>724032902
it came from X.com, even lies are more believable that this shit. But e will worship any negative post he can find from there, it's his tribe duty. his holy cult tradition.

I bought it and enjoyed it and you can't make me hate it.

Pokemon is the India of gaming.

its their best game since heartgold/soulsilver. they actually made a change, the battle system. i found it fun.

>>724045373
Ok faggot, keep eating shit then.

>>724032039 (OP)
>same gameplay as ni no Kuni
Studio Ghibli law suit when

>>724036685
>company wouldn't notice a 10% drop
listen to yourself

>>724047103
It's not. In Ni no Kuni you either control one of the humans or one of the monsters directly, each using their own moves. Here you always control the trainer while the Pokémon follows your movements and you issue commands. The positioning is indirect and yes, it makes a huge difference.

Palcuck bros...

>>724032039 (OP)
I haven't boughted a pokemon game in 15 years.

>>724032039 (OP)
might buy it used for 30€
giving my money to Sakurai

>>724036147
I've legitimately tried discussing the gameplay here but so few of people in the threads on /v/ have actually played the game that you can't. I'm so serious. These threads are nothing but shitflinging by people who haven't even seen five minutes of gameplay, let alone played it.

I've been in the /vp/ threads for a week talking about the gameplay, the meta of the real-time free for all online battles, the new mechanics, collectibles, the story, while also playing the game for about 50 hours so far.

>>724037230
It's so funny to me how posts like this write an essay on how absolutely depressing it is to them and then openly end it with "I didn't actually play it btw"

>>724033631
Not to mention how fucking glitchy and unfinished it was even by pokemon standards.

>>724047535
Anon you should know by now pokemon/nintendo games don't devalue in for years or even decades

>>724047697
is the combat better than pokemon Go

>>724033631
It's open world Pokemon

The games have been objectively shit from a quality point of view since gen 6.
It was the first major drop in quality the series saw, especially in terms of support when Pokebank had all that down time with 0 official updates. It was also blatantly unfinished before the leaks came out and we know just how much was scrapped.

I don't know how you people hold onto cope that after several mainline games and spinoffs that GameFreak are somehow going to want to invest more into a series that generates ungodly profits on low budgets. They have literally no reason to.
Your little boycott could work, GameFreak could lose ~70% of sales and it wouldn't be a loss to them. The best part? Most of the faggots who go
>THIS TIME I'M DONE FOR SURE!
Will buy the next generation, complain, and buy again because they 'can't' miss out.

It's time to move on. Your favorites still exist, go play them, or any of the mods that use their engine.
I guess you could complain about them not being on NSO, but nothing about how current gen Pokemon is selling will affect that.

>>724047697
How is the multiplayer anyway? I emulated it so I can't play that shit
I didn't like the combat much playing it myself, feels kind of rough around the edges

>>724047760
30 if lucky tbf, but 35 seems to be the average price for resells after a while and this isn't a game i'm in a rush to play. i got pokemon, zelda, animal crossing, xenoblade, etc. for 30-35 each.
that's EU though, US might be more expensive. everything retro is like 5x the price over there.

>>724047478
Now that I think about it, it's much closer to the first Spectrobes specifically. Origins too somewhat, but you could actually do some damage with the humans themselves in that one.

>>724036531
Can you explain how this is a win for you?

>>724047835
It's extremely hectic but fast paced and fun. It basically pits four people in a free for all against each other, it feels different from the main game since obviously everyone is using fully evolved mons and there's also four people involved instead of the usual two in single player. You can go in with huge mons that go for big damage or try to hang back and get kills by ambushing low health mons. The positioning aspect of the game is VERY important in online.

https://streamable.com/l9137m

>>724036602
>You replied anyway
Don't ask just to get mad.

>>724047835
Not that anon but multiplayer is a nice blend of strategy and chaos. Positioning is much more important compared to the single player's 1-vs-1s since you'll be attacked from multiple sides and your AoEs can hit multiple opponents at once. The arenas are large enough that you can hang back and try to sneak up on others locked in battle, but not so large that you can just camp completely out of sight. You have limited switch-outs per life and have to wait a few seconds before respawning once you're KO'd. Knowing when to switch out, run away and kill-steal is extremely important.

>>724048123
>Focus Miss
>actually gets a kill
Not my Pokémon game.

>>724045176
>Pokemon is cool, make a better game and get fucking sued.

Ftfy poketroon

>>724048360
You gotta unlearn a lot of shit for this. Fly and Dig are so fucking good in this game since they're an approach where you're invisible and invincible and home perfectly onto the enemy.

Bounce Gyarados is comfortably one of the best meta picks.

>>724048382
>better game
>fortnite survival crafting
yawn

>>724048123
>The positioning aspect of the game is VERY important in online
which would be based if you actually controlled the position of your mon more
your Absol whiffed its second attack and there's nothing you could do about it since it happens like 2 seconds after you press it
which once again could be based if the other person was actively drying to dodge your shit but i guarantee stuff like this just happens randomly all the time
i'd rather play turn based at that point

>>724032039 (OP)
He won

>>724048559
I've tried running a hit and run Raichu with Nasty Plot/Volt Switch/Thunderbolt and a big part of keeping it alive is avoiding Earthquakes, which usually means recognising when big shit is gonna attack, not giving commands so the Raichu starts to return to its default position (next to you) and positioning yourself so that your Raichu's path is taking it away from battle. Your position as a trainer ALWAYS dictates the movement of your Pokemon if they aren't currently acting on a command to attack.

The indirect nature of it might be awkward to some, but it absolutely is able to be used fully intentionally. You need to think of the mon as being a seperate creature and that it's acting on commands, not in direct control. Which I recognise not everyone would necessarily be into (if there's real time combat, I get wanting direct control), though I'd argue that sense of "this is a creature I'm commanding" is part of the intention.

>>724047697
yeah its the swing effect from reddit to 4chan. on reddit, people are so retarded and fake that they will praise a huge steaming pike of shit. on 4chan, its one of the few remaining places where people are allowed to be 'negative' or 'toxic' and so they do so at the expense of actual discussion.

>>724047835
I don’t like it personally it’s a kill steal fiesta I win most games by just standing WAAAAY back and ploinking people’s dragonites with ice beam

Pokemon is basically an infinite money glitch at this point. I can't name any other franchise that can get away with making small budget games while selling better than most AAA games.

>>724037230
>Nintendo Derangement Essay
Didn't read, but it's video games. It's not serious. You NDSfags will never understand that everyone else does not take video games seriously nor should they be taken seriously. But you'll never understand because you are mentally ill.

Can Nintendo adults even be considered human at this point?

Can Nintendo Derangement adulta even be considered human at this point? Imagine a grown man getting emotional and angry over video games. Not by playing them and losing, but because some toy sold well.

>>724045176
>make a better game
>get sued
If only it was that easy.

>>724051114
Where's the better game? I don't see it.

>>724032039 (OP)
Nah.
I bought digimon.

>>724032039 (OP)
>YOU
>BOUGHT
>IT
>ANYWAY
They always do.

Who the fuck keeps buying these games over and over again? The plot never fucking changes. Sure, Super Mario's plot is kind of the same in each game but at least the game's mechanics are changed up enough. Every game looks like dog shit, runs like dog shit, it's the same stupid premise, and you're wasting time catching the same stupid shit. How the fuck does this sell 20 million copies a year? And why do people complain Call of Duty is the same fucking game every year when this game has the budget of one-ply toilet paper?

>>724051591
>plot

unless its an rpg i skip through that shit as fast as the game allows. its a game not movie.

>>724051591
You bought it anyway :)

>>724035776
RAT SEXOOOO

>>724036685
>That's basically 11% drop which isn't too bad but it shows that gamefreak is certainly starting to lose some people. They'll probably won't notice even if sales started dropping by 50% because as long as it sells more than a million copies it's profitable.

Nah it's the Switch's 8th year and sales were already declining last year and the Switch 2 is just too new to make up the sales yet.

It'd be like looking at Ultra Sun/Moon or LGPE and thinking Pokemon is on a decline because they didn't sell as well as Sun/Moon or X/Y. Chances are the Switch 2 Bundles and the holiday season sales of Switch 2 will make up for the Switch's decline and it might actually end up beating Legends Arceus in the end.

>>724051591
>The plot never fucking changes. Sure, Super Mario's plot is kind of the same in each game but at least the game's mechanics are changed up enough.
Can you explain what about the plot of this game is like the other games? There's no gyms, no elite four, it's a story about you working on stopping a weapon from going off and protecting a poorly performing hotel. How the fuck is the plot the same as usual.

Like do you people even look at these games for FIVE FUCKING SECONDS before you complain? Literally the smallest amount of research shows what you're saying is FACTUALLY WRONG. Why are you so proudly fucking stupid?

>>724050808
>at this point
reminder that they've been selling 2 versions of each game since the 90s and then made people double/triple dip with a slightly upgraded version right after
and while yes, the games were atleast good back then. it was always printing more money by deliberately removing content

>>724036685
It's not a major new generation, a drop like that is expected. Look at franchise historical sales. Z-A is doing near exactly in line with Arceus sales, slightly better in fact.

>Game Freak is certainly losing people
Scarlet and Violet is literally the second best selling games in the entire franchise, the first being Red and Blue.

>>724051949

So you like eating dog shit and will continue to eat dog shit for your autistic urges. Got it.

>>724052118
Please actually discuss things you know about instead of things you don't know about.

Great news! Congrats to Game Freak.

>>724033631
nobody knew it was when they bought it

#thankyougamefreak

>>724033631
The sad thing about SV is that all of the hate for the visuals and performance is justified, but the game itself is fun. The open world fits the series, exploration felt good since they rewarded you well with rare mons. You're free to do things literally any order you want. You can have your Pokemon follow you and interact with them, even camp out with them. Mechanics were streamlined and made easier to access, and if you want to count the DLC, they added some legitimately fun modes to multiplayer (BBQ farming is basically co-op where you run around the open world doing random tasks and you get rewarded for every task anyone in the lobby completes).

If it didn't look like absolute shit from an ass, it would have been very well received.

>>724052568
Don't forget it ran pretty bad on Switch 1. S/V deserved a lot of the criticism that it got.

>>724033631
>It was easily the worst fucking one.
Gen 5 launched like 10 years earlier though

>>724052661
I literally said
>all of the hate for the visuals and performance is justified
but fair, I should've included that in the last line too.

I bought the new katamari game instead :)

>>724052758
I bought Sonic racing instead.

>>724051949
>Like do you people even look at these games for FIVE FUCKING SECONDS before you complain?

no, is the easy answer. they do not play them, they just think they know everything because they saw some yotubers giving them opinions.

>>724052738
Somehow my old, milky eyes missed that part. My bad.

>>724052568
>You're free to do things literally any order you want.
How does that even work?
I just catch a high level pokemon and steamroll everything? Or I skip something and when I come by later, it's piss easy? How does the balancing work?

6 000 000 x $60 = 360 000 000

Where does gamefreak spend all this money? it's not even from a mainline game

>>724052971
>taxes don't exist

I didn't buy it but I'm glad its success is making people upset.

>>724052860
There isn't level balancing, so yes, if you do skip earlier intended stuff, it will be easy, and if you go to later intended stuff, it'll be harder. You can't easily just catch higher level mons as your badge progress will limit the upper level of what you can catch easily, but it's doable.

Realistically the game is designed that you wouldn't naturally end up at the late game stuff unless you actively go out of your way to do so though. You aren't going to end up at Grusha's gym before the others because he's up on a mountain that you have to go round the entire country for. Once you get through the desert or construction zones, you could beeline to him, but by that point you're already not that many levels behind.

Some degree of level balancing would have been interesting to see IMO, but the static scaling mostly works that you can travel around free form, and the game promotes it by essentially giving you two major open ways to go from the major starting city (western into the grasslands or eastern into the cliffsides)

There's also three seperate story lines you're expecting to complete (Titans, gyms and Team Star bases) that promote you exploring the area. Gyms are typically in towns, while titans and team star bases are in the open nature.

>>724052971
I bought it for 70 bucks

>My first ever pokemon playthrough
I feel sad for these zoomer chubas.

>>724053107
Why?

>>724053113
So the balancing is ass, got it.

>>724032039 (OP)
>Every post, comment, and YT reaction video says the same exact things.
>muh Digimon!
>muh 2d texture buildings
>Palworld Palworld Palworld
>Multiple false sales data comparisons
>Nintendo is evil and greedy! They announced dlc before the game is even out!
>0 actual gameplay or story discussion.
>meanwhile tons of streamers are playing the game and having fun.

Totally organic and not a targeted fud campaign.

>>724053197
>Saw a vtuber whose first pokemon games were SwSh and PLZA

>>724032039 (OP)
need to see this guy doing the gmod dance

>>724053323
You are a soulless bag of meat.

>>724032039 (OP)
Pokemon fans are a hopeless cult addicted to slop. They don’t play other games so of course they have very little standards. The franchise will never improve. Just laugh at the cattle and move on.

>>724052568
I have no words to describe how much it baffles me that anybody could defend this pile of shit, it is with out a doubt the worst game I have played in the last 5 years, maybe even 10.
If it looked good, and it ran well, I could maybe call it mediocre, but really this entire game just needed to be made by a different studio.

I could never understand people being mad about a franchise doing well.

>>724053269
Why not? Imagine the grifters and shitposts who waste their days crying about Nintendo and the like only for this to happen.

>>724032606
Honestlyx considering this is technically a multi console release(switch 1 and 2) this looks bad. A multi console releases almost always sell more

>>724053663
A big part of it is that despite being the most successful franchise of all time, the games have been more and more lacking as hardware improves. It's frankly a bit ridiculous that the games look as graphically bad as they do considering how good a lot of Switch games looked in comparison. Game Freak/TPC just need to get their shit together.

>>724053448
Do you have any criticisms of the game that aren't you just saying "it bad, you shit taste woof woof"

>>724053663
Because I wish the franchise was better. I truly hate Gamefreak

>>724053801
Launch sales of software on a new system are limited by low install base, what it gains is in sales over time as long as the system itself keeps selling.

>>724032039 (OP)
I didn't buy shit, nigga

>>724053663
i'm not mad at a franchise doing well, i'm mad that the most profitable franchise in existence gets a budget of a pack of gum and 2 cool looking sticks for their games, leading to those games being fucking dogshit.

>>724053807
The only comparable open world games on Switch are Xenoblade and despite what people like to say, those look like fucking ass as well. XC2 literally ran so fucking bad that the variable frame rate would reach absurdly low rendering resolution in handheld mode. You damn well fucking know if Pokemon did that it would be getting posted to this day. Look at this pic, if Pokemon did this, the screenshot would be posted for years afterwards just like that tree in Sword and Shield or Scarlet and Violets glitches.

The problem is your answer to this will still be
>they have money
As if that magically solves the problem of the strength of Switch hardware.

>>724053847
Yes, the fact that the exploration is beyond ass, ignoring the fact that you are exploring the ugliest 3D map ever made at 720p 20fps, the entire thing isn't being balanced around you so not only there's little for you to see (physically), all the pokemon you run into are likely going to be multiple dozens of levels higher than yours, unless you play it in a completely linear fashion defeating the point of the entire map.

>>724054203
they could just not, not make it an open world game lmao

>>724044639
Bluewaffle

>>724053847

Yes. My criticism is that it's for autistic faggots like you who like to eat the same dog shit each new release.

>>724054203
Xenoblade X looks great handheld. I know it's a Wii U port but it still looks way better than what Pokémon puts out nowadays. I do appreciate the high resolution and frame rate of Z-A on Switch 2 though, I'll take a gen 10 that runs comparably over much better graphics but at low res/30fps.

>>724037230
>me reading that pissbaby rant

>>724054243
Alright, that's better, thank you. You're absolutely right about it looking ugly and running like shit.

I disagree that the open world isn't balanced around you, as it's very intentionally constructed to funnel you but still let you explore naturally. You absolutely do not have to play it in a linear fashion to get a reasonable level curve, that's literally the point of the three substories being seperate, so you can approach them in any order you want. The level differences only matter meaningfully if you go vastly out of your way. I do however, think it wouldn't have hurt for them to have tried some form of variable level scaling, and think it's a shame they didn't

I'm glad we can actually discuss this now you actually talked about the fucking video game.

slopworldtroons absolutely seething and coping

>>724054325
>STOP LIKING WHAT I DON'T LIKE!
>PLEASE JUST REALIZE YOUR GAME SUCKS AND MY TASTE IS BETTER!

Hey guy, How is wow and Fortnite these days? Having a great time?

>>724054203
Wii U game bee tee dubs

>>724054368
>>724054483
X is relatively good looking, at times, but it's also propped up by landscape shots. A lot of the time the textures in it are extremely ugly, especially on the ground directly around you. It's great at distant landscape but falls apart up close. There's a reason so many of those screenshots intentionally point the camera upwards.

>>724054481

Yes. Exactly what an autist would think folks are playing besides their Poke-shit. Oh well. Enjoy your $30 DLC for an evolution and pop-in if you don't have the Switch 2 edition.

>>724054712
you lost and got raped

>>724035821
>1080@60fps on switch 2
Gamefreak really are on another level, remember this is the same console running Metroid Prime 4 at 4k/60fps, and Mario Kart World at 1440@60fps, both with significantly better graphics and far more complexity within every scene.

[Buy a fucking ad]

>>724055038
Yeah, how dare people talk about video games on a video game board.

>>724054795
>>724035821
Legends Z-A on Switch 2 runs at 4K 60fps when docked, 1080p 60fps when handheld.

>>724054619
They point the camera up because there's an interesting landscape to admire. It's not like it's 8K ULTRA RESOLUTION, but it looks fine. Only complaint anyone ever had about the visuals was the potato faces on some characters which they messed around with in the port.
Pokemon's visual problem seems like some combination of incompetence and no art direction. The latter especially. Plenty of old games look good to this day despite their lacking tech because they had had a visual identity. Pokemon's not very good at that anymore for some reason.

>>724055471
Agreed, SVs god awful visuals were made even worse by poor visual identity. Z-A is a little better about that, colour use is generally stronger and it's somewhat more stylistically consistent, but that doesn't salvage the flat buildings and lack of detail, and lighting could've been used better too.

>>724055471
Legends Arceus has a good visual style, only marred by some obvious repeated textures on mountains.

>>724053847
The graphics are bad
You can take gyms and other bosses in any other but the game doesn't have level scaling to make take any order actually feel like an unique experience
The battles feel slow
La Primera is easily the worst champion in the franchise
Team Star is lame doesn't help the concept art version is so infinitely cooler(seriously why pokemon keeps trying to do Team Skull again?)
The terastallization hats look dumb
Iron Jugulis

>>724055579
My problem with ZA is mostly how bland the city looks. Corner to corner it all looks the same. Makes it difficult to even know where you are at a glance. The trainers don't look that great either, fashion sucks

>>724055642
True, despite the shit textures I did actually like how PLA looked. LGPE also doesn't look bad though I'm not big on the toddler chibi look for the trainers.

>>724032606
Nintendeen won

>>724055817
This
Also the concept of wild areas is so dumb and extremely dangerous
I get small cuddly pokemon but who the fuck thought letting a wild alpha SALAMENCE on the city was a good idea????

>>724032039 (OP)
I didn't buy shit.
I'm broke.

>>724056614
They're only aggressive due to what is happening at the Prism Tower and are supposed to eventually calm down after the events of the game. Still, it's funny to think you're just meant to accept there now being a pack of lions in your neighborhood.

>>724056614
>who the fuck thought letting a wild alpha SALAMENCE on the city was a good idea????
Diversity is what makes Lumiose City so beautiful.

>>724033631
No, it's easily the best outside poor framerate.
>muh cherrypicked bugs
Not an issue for 99.9% of players. I played it for about 80 hrs and the only bug I encountered was falling through the floor in a corner once. 5 seconds of confusion out of 80 fucking hours.

>>724053801
Not when they are the same brand.

>>724032039 (OP)
Damn straight I did. Just caught a shiny Furfrou, too.

>>724053886
>>724054070
But why care when its goddamn Pokemon? Its a franchise for kids.
I'd understand if it was Dark Souls or GTA, but Pokemon is going to be the same unbearable toddlerslop no matter the graphics.

>>724057634
Same and i'm having a blast!

>>724038101
>guaranteed to be slop
>meanwhile, /v/'s favs: Deltarune, Palworld, Marvel Rivals, The Sims and gacha slop
Stop pretending this is about quality, the crap you like is worse than the average Triple A and has way more tranny shit.
You are just mad you can't TORtanic them and refuse to accept /v/'s opinions are irrelevant.

>>724057701
Kids deserve good things too.

>>724057701
Satisfying basic formula, good setting and premise, good designs
They've just been fucking it up for the longest time at this point. Like potential man the franchise but the games were at least fun at a point.

>>724055642
>Arceus has a good visual style

>>724057901
You weren't supposed to post this.

>>724057634
I found one too, also a shiny Magikarp and a couple others. I hate hearing the shiny sound when I'm on a random street and not knowing if it spawned on a nearby rooftop, but they don't seem to despawn even if you go pretty far so it's not that bad.

>>724037230
>I wanna rant and bitch about a million things
I think some break from internet could do you good.
How long/far can you run in one go?

>>724057892
First of all, kids are retards, if they want good stuff give them adult media, less risk of them growing up to be manchildren too.
Second, I doubt people here care about kids, its just we have mentally ill autists here who unironically play crap like Pokemon, Digimon, Animal Crossing and Mario Kart in their adulthood.
If they insist on playing toddlerslop I can only wish they all keep getting worse and worse.

>>724057895
>good designs
Sure, if your goal is making plushies for little girls.

>>724057901
>only marred by some obvious repeated textures on mountains.
Everyone knows the graphics are bad, but we're talking about how it tries to have an artstyle.

>>724055471
Artstyle is a cope for indie studios.
Pokemon earns more than enough to just license an engine like the Cry Engine and push for realism.

>>724058092
Pokemon has plenty of good designs though
Besides gen 7 and 8, especially the latter

>>724032606
I am going to laugh at you when holiday season comes and it outsell PLA. Nearly 50% being sold for Switch 2 is a huge sign that it's a system seller so bundles will be flying off the shelf.

>>724058243
>push for realism
More like push yourself off a bridge lmao this is very much the kind of game that should remain stylized to a degree

>>724032039 (OP)
>That webm

Holy kek

>>724037230
>Made pokecattle seethe
Yep this is a TRVKE alright

>>724057989
IIRC the game straight up won't ever despawn a shiny (unless you trigger its running away animation or kill it) and can save up to 10 active shinies.

>>724058914
I can't wait for gen 10 to lack the sound again...

>>724032039 (OP)
No, but I did buy Palworld