Thread 724487487

So true

day 20124031 of faggots excusing gamefreak's laziness

i always fucking hated dragonite
my beautiful boy, ruined

>nowadays

That game is 15 years old

>>724487639
True, i mean, why are arbok and blastoise so damn lazy?

>>724487487 (OP)
bottom is clearly overdesigned but that's nothing compared to the ugly shit they make now

Top row good bottom row bad
Except Carracosta, he gets a pass

>>724487713
animal fuckers need the rope

>>724487487 (OP)
>Nowadays
>15+ year old pokemon

>>724487487 (OP)
I hate modern pokemon game and have several things against them but the designs of the new mons is not one of em.

>>724487713
Based, Dragonite is an abomination. Same with Goodra while we're at it.

>>724488069
>bottom is clearly overdesigned
the gold lines on Serpirior's body and the purple lines on Hytdreigon's could be removed and it would make them look much better

>>724487713
> no Dragonair evo alt that looks like a cute Gyarados
> no Magikarp evo alt that looks like a ugly Dragonite
gamefreak could have actual fun with designs but instead we get Starmie but with long legs only saved because of memes

>>724487487 (OP)
I wonder what the world would have looked like if Pokémon had died early like so many other 90s collectible fads

>>724489230
Like Digimon

>>724487487 (OP)
>nowadays

>>724487487 (OP)
SOVL
CRINGE

>>724487487 (OP)
I love Carracosta's design, but he sucks to find and use in any of the games.

Serperior (and all the starters of that gen) and Hydreigon are pretty bad designs. Hydreigon specifically is really bad in 3D.

>>724489102
Look up Milotic you retard

>>724487487 (OP)
I remember posts like these complaining about genwunners and how whiny they are being literally everywhere back in the early 2010's, but actual genwunners were almost never seen.
Unovabortions have always been the most insufferable type of pokemon fans out there, and that's really saying something.

>>724489490
Milotic fits nothing I mentioned, read my post slowly this time I'm sure you'll get it if you do

>>724489506
Genwunners were prelevant and were easily one of the most obnoxious parts of the pokemon fanbase. Gen 5 being dogshit and it's braindead fans being annoying too doesn't change that.

>>724487487 (OP)
Kanto slop is so fucking lazy and souless

>>724489903
No they weren't lmao. I remember browsing the internet and being into pokemon between 2012 and 2014. Literally 90% of all discussion online was just unovaborts pissing and moaning about how genwunners don't like the ice cream pokemon. They were genuinely parasitic, and they only started fucking off once XY were announced and people stopped caring about gen 5.

>>724490445
>This amount of delusion
Sure thing, faggot.

>>724490445
Nice headcanon. Wish I could find the screencap of retards having a meltdown at tamashii because she didn't like Charizard.

>>724487487 (OP)
what gay ass faggot thought dragonite was ok for the ONLY dragon in the game

>>724487487 (OP)
Gen 5 killed Pokemon. Fuck off zoomie. Only Charizard and Pikachu matter

>>724489451
>Carracosta sucks to use
doesn't it get shell smash?
that move can make any 'mon usable

>>724487487 (OP)
its funny that the gen5 turtle thing is way less excessive than blastoise

Dragonite is BEAUTIFUL

>>724490103
how big are his cocks?

>>724489102
That Mega Evolution Victorybell gotta be the ugliest shit I ever did see. You know it's bad when you can't even visually tell what you're looking at.
It's so bad that I'm writing in a thread for a franchise I haven't played in 15 years, to express how fugly it is.

Behead sophists

>>724487487 (OP)
>nowadays
Faggot that's from gen 5, that was 15 fucking years ago

>>724496357
>gen 5 was 15 years ago
SAY IT AINT SO

>>724487487 (OP)
Gen 5 was 15 years ago.

>>724487487 (OP)
Fuck Op, Post them

I see you noodle poster and I appreciate your taste.

>>724496542
>started with Fallout 1
>so old that I don't even register on their oldness ranking

>>724495953
>You know it's bad when you can't even visually tell what you're looking at.
Because you're mentally challenged. It's literally just a Victreebel too full of poisonous stomach acid so it vines its mouth to not spill it out.

>>724497870
And this image was made in 2018 :)

>>724487747
There is more time bewteen today and black and white than between red and blue and black and white

>>724500412
Did he have one damaging move on that absol or what?

>>724487487 (OP)
VGH... they don't make them like they used to...

>>724487487 (OP)
what is the point of bringing up beloved and extremely popular new pokemon?

nobody has a problem with those pokemon on the bottom.

>>724500908
looks like choice item

>>724501036
There are no new Pokémon in OP's image

>>724500942
now without filters

>>724502208
>filters
Not everything is a phone zoomie

>>724502208
>filters
Zoom zoom's too stupid to get the point.

>>724487487 (OP)
Is that one on the right an actual pokemon? Looks like a yughioh card.

>>724487487 (OP)
Gen 6 and 7 are only gens that most Pokemon had genuinely dogshit designs. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 8 and 9 are all great.

>>724487487 (OP)
Everyone knows Bulbasaur, Squirtle, Charmander but I bet you guys never noticed this hidden trio!

>>724500942
>>724502208
Both of these look like trash.
Nidoking, Tyranitar and Aggron eternally mog this wannabe.

>>724502812
>>724502752
>millenialtranny so mad he replied twice
btw it was your generation that ruined this website with /pol/shit

except now they're overdesigned

>>724503173
Don't add johtrash to the discussion

>>724503127
>dogshit with superior evolution
>eviolite exploiter with dogshit evo
>dogshit with dogshit evo
I don't get it.

>>724503127
>electebuzz and magmar get a resurgence in usage as support pokemon
>scyther has literally never been usable
it hurts...

>>724503214
>seething zoomer tourist seethes to me about /pol/shit while screaming amount imaginary trannies
You must be 18 or older to use this website

>>724488396
This nigga gets it.

>>724503127
Jinx is the third in thst trio, Scyther's counterpart is Pinser.

>>724503356
Mt. Silver is in Kanto thoughbeit.

>>724503356
Johto is an apology for Kanto. They remembered to add soul the second time.

>>724487487 (OP)
>15 year old game
That gen was fine. Everything past that was actual garbage however.

>>724500412
I don't play Pokémon anymore what's happening here?

the pokemon were FAT

(aka CHIBI). that's the missing ingredient.

>>724503419
>millenialtourist babble
>inspect element
ISGDG

>>724503573
Gen 5 was not fine. There was a reason it had the lowest sales. 6 was a bit of a disappointment but it was way better than 5 and everything after X & Y is inexcusable.

>>724502970
Every gen has hits and misses, Gen 6 has some real standouts but a lot of mediocre stuff and there's only like 50 real Pokémon in the whole gen
I think Gen 7 was the worst, I actually really like the Ultra Beasts but a lot of the actual Alola mons are really ugly
Gen 8 and 9 have been moving back in the right direction

>>724487487 (OP)
>Top: simple, iconic, SOVL
>Bottom: lazy, overdesigned, trash

>>724503394
>Scyther dogshit
Hey fuck you buddy, you wouldn't have S-tier Scizor without an A-tier foundation

>>724503593
Nothing in particular. Run of the mill game.
Suckerpunch only works if the opponent attacks. If you predict well you can set up easily against retards. If you set up you can sweep easily if the opponent doesn't have priority, focus sash etc. Right player is just bad.

>>724500942
tone down the retarded spikes and whatever that thing on the back is and you might have a good Tyranitar copy

>>724503515
Johturd is dogshit made solely to cash in on the pokemania craze. Dogshit anime, dogshit games designed by retards, awful Pokemon aside from a few standouts

What Pokemon would you change in design or just get rid altogether from Gen 1?

>>724503870
>literally the same base stats, but hard carried by type and ability

>>724503753
Gens 8 and 9 have a lot of gimmick Pokemon but the gimmicks are done well. There are also a lot of just good Pokemon played straight e.g. based Lokix.

>>724503394
These dudes still get used in official tournaments even after years of power creep. Scyther actually won a whole tournament a while back

>>724504001
>awful Pokemon aside from a few standouts
that aren't even available in their own region lmao

>>724504001
>anime
Was always trash. Only the games matter and the games got progressively better until gen 5.

>>724503995
>saying to "tone down the spikes" on something that has basically none while "appreciating" overspiked king

>>724504260
Ok then I take it back. I kneel Scyther-sama.

>>724487713
You will never be a real chillet

>>724504472
Tyranitar wasn't even that bad aside from its back sprites. Aggron makes for a bettter Godzilla clone anyway.

>>724487487 (OP)
Pokémon fans have lower standards than Call of Duty fans

>>724487487 (OP)
Modern games are fine, you've just gotten old and depressed.

Surprising they still haven't made blastoise water steel in gen 2 and onwards

>>724504109
>change
Dragonite to look more like an actual evolution from Dragonair.
Golem to look more like an actual evolution from Graveler.
Get rid of Machoke and Machamp's belts.
Make Hitmonchan look less like an actual boxer and more monster-like with a focus on punching like Hitmonlee does for kicking.
Replace the Seel line with the Spheal line.
Change Weedle to look better. It looks so silly compared to Caterpie.
Fix the Butterfree and Venomoth lines to look more consistent, too.
Fix the Zubat line, mostly Golbat.
Fix the Shellder line.

>get rid of
Jynx, Magmar, Electabuzz, Mr. Mime, never liked them.
Gengar. Haunter is cooler.
Diglett line sucks.
Exeggcute line sucks.

>>724505626
Oh and fix the Poliwag line to look less cartoonish and more froglike.

>>724502034
And you’re not posting any yourself either, fag

>>724505626
I'd get rid of the Drowzee line and take the spoons away from Kadabra and Alakazam, that always felt a bit too much for me.

>>724500942
This looks cool. Too bad baxcalibur is another "looks bad on purpose" mon so it'll never actually looks like this

>>724506334
>"looks bad on purpose"
Explain.

>>724504109
Don't know if it counts, but I would make Kangaskhan's baby an actual Pokemon that evolves into Kangaskhan itself. It's always bothered me how it's the only people that physically grows into it's current appearance. They could either use the juvenile(?) Kangaskhan from it's Mega Evolution or make it a second stage evo while the actual baby is the first stage ala Elekid, Magby, Pichu, etc.

>>724506440
>how it's the only *Pokemon that physically grows into it's current appearance

>>724505626
Bro thought they could remove Gengar and we'd just let them slide

>>724506334
>so it'll never actually looks like this
outside the quills becoming hand spikes that's how the pokemon looks like retard , it's just drawn in another style

>>724505626
>Dragonite to look more like an actual evolution from Dragonair.
Is this really what you want

>>724506724
>changing it means it HAS to look like the ugly mega
Are you stupid?

>>724506784
I mean you’re the one making stupid remarks, not me

>>724506362
I remember posts saying that frigibax and baxcalibur look the way the way they do because they're based on ugly kaiju suits from old movies and tv shows

>>724489903
"genwunners" are just most of the people who played Pokémon when it first came out. It's the default opinion for millennials. It's not reflective of the Pokémon fanbase as a whole.

>>724506847
>Yes, I am stupid!
Thanks for clarifying.

>>724487487 (OP)
>gen 5 is now older than gen 1 was when this meme was made
CHRIST
Either way we can all agree gens 3-5 are the apex of Pokémon designs (and game quality but that's a different discussion)

>>724506784
maybe you should be specific then faggot it fits the criteria

>>724506959
>Either way we can all agree gens 3-5 are the apex of Pokémon designs
No the evolutions of older gen Pokemon Gen 4 added were hideous even back then

>>724506962
Maybe you should get some reading comprehension.

>>724507017
Some are ugly as shit like rhyperior but many of them like roserade/gallade/Gliscor/porygon-z are 10/10 designs

>>724507017
>xhe doesn't like sneedvile

>>724507197
Gallade fucking sucks dude is wearing a diaper

>>724506959
No. A lot of Gen 4 and 5's designs are still fucking garbage, mostly 5's.

I don't play pokemans.
The top designs are simple and to the point. The bottom designs are a mess. I could look at this picture for a minute and then draw the entire top row from memory. I don't think I'd be able to draw anything in the bottom row correctly.

>>724502970
The only gen 9 designs I actually like are Tinkaton, Grafaiai, the megaman brothers, Gholdengo, and Roaring moon + Iron bundle (don't count them because they're basically forms of old mons). Gen 9 has the worst dex ever imo, most of the designs look like mid-stages rather than fully made mons.

>>724487487 (OP)
You guys think my nigga Snorlax is getting a Mega in the dlc?

>>724507645
Oh yeah I forgot about the box legenadaries and the few apple dragon evo they're pretty cool
>>724507837
Sadly no, here's the leaked dlc roster

>>724507837
What kind of mega could you even give him? Only thing I can imagine is some sleeping giant-type shit with nature growing on his belly cause he’s been sleeping for eons or some shit like that

>>724508406
So basically the gmax form lol

I could imagine a mega snorlax where he's "wide awake" and is fast and skinnier. It would be meme potential like mega starmie.

>>724506362
Some schizos think that new Pokémon have to look bad on purpose because of 3D, somehow

>>724487713
The entire line is easily my favorite in Gen I, Dragonite included. Even though it's a clear break from the Dratini > Dragonair evolution I just love the way Dragonite looks for some reason. I like that they're always portrayed as being friendly and amicable but also extremely powerful, it's neat.

>>724503946
Right Player isn't bad, it's a 50/50 coin flip every turn and he just happened to pick the wrong one every time.

Can't blame him for only having one priority move on his team outside of Mamo, It's a randbats mode so you get what you get. Basically his only chance at not getting 6-0'd on matchup by Gorebyss was to land suckerpunch.

>>724503445
Retard, Jinx doesn't work as the third member of that trio because neither ice nor psychic are weak to electric, so the type weakness triangle doesn't work the same way as Scyther > Magmar > Electrobuzz > Scyther does.

>>724508067
Faggy as fuck. Why does Lucario need a 2nd Mega? Is he really as popular as Charizard

Some of the Pokemon now are pretty fucking wild.

>>724504260
>Eviolite Scyther
Kinda based...

>>724504260
>infernape and scyther
Huh?

>>724510378
Look at tri attack and the legendary birds both are ice, electric and fire

>>724510516
>216 base Special Attack with STAB Nihil Light (200 base power damaging Dragon type move with no downsides and ignores Fairy types immunity to Dragon)
I know this thing needs to be Mega Evolved only after reaching half HP, but that's still such a comically ridiculous stat spread and move.

>>724509916
Didn't say anything like that

>>724504109
Vileplume is extremely similar to Venusaur in terms of both design concept and gameplay. I wouldn't say it's redundant or needs to be changed but I never realized how similar they were until now.
Onix is an iconic Pokémon but its design famously doesn't match up with its gameplay. "Gigantic rock serpent" doesn't really convey "extremely sturdy physical wall that dies instantly to Bubble and also deals no damage." Maybe if it was coiled up?
If I was ever going to cut a Pokémon Mr. Mime would be high on the list. Mime Jr. is the only good thing to ever come from it, honestly just start over from there.
Jynx could have and should have been redesigned, as it is now they're just never going to touch it again.

Charmelon is probably the first example of "awkward middle evolution starter." I don't know how you would "fix" this since making it orange like Charmander and Charizard would just make it the most boring "just gets bigger" starter of all time, so perhaps there's a reason for these things.
Wartortle and Blastoise also obviously don't really line up but it that case I would rather change Blastoise, I've always liked Wartortle more.

>>724506440
Yeah if anything there ought to be MORE "Gen 1" Pokémon, where's the Shellder/Cloyster alt evolution that becomes Slowbro's tail?

>>724487487 (OP)
What kind of pals are those?

>>724510516
>>724511450
>takes your Mega slot
>has to actually hold a Mega Stone
>conditional on your opponent hitting you to <50% HP in base form (losing at least 200 HP) and not OHKOing you with an Ice move or just setting up on you
>has to run an unoptimal Special set when Zygarde has much better Physical options
>only 100 Speed
Unironically way more balanced than some Legendaries (and non-Legendaries) we've been getting that are nuclear bombs right out of the box
Unless it gets another crazy Ability when it Megas I don't see people running this over other Mega options that are arguably just as strong and way more consistent

Guys, is it normal to hate ZA? I’m only 10 hours in but I keep comparing it to Arceus

Does it get better?

We have pokemons based on a cute thing

>>724487713
I hated dragonite because he looked like Walmart Charizard

>>724515010
it gets good at 70 hours

>>724504260
>carried by meta slop
Yeah okay fag

>>724515010
We have no idea what you dislike about it so how the fuck are we meant to answer that.

I liked Arceus and I liked Z-A. They're not the same game and both are fun experiments for the series, and I especially like Z-As experiments with the battle system and the setting is unique for the series (wouldn't want it to be a regular thing but I do like the idea as a one off for a single larger and denser city instead of a region with multiple small towns) and curveballs are always nice in that regard. Arceus fit more interestingly into the lore stuff it did but Legends Z-A does eventually pay off on lore stuff, even if it takes longer to than Arceus.

>>724487487 (OP)
the monsters on the bottom look like crap lmao.

>>724506959
We are all fucking old

>>724515545
>he loves Gardevoir just like I do!
My nigga!

>>724515550
>Walmart Charizard
Kek!

>>724515550
same, i thought it was some kind of split evo for charmeleon or 4th evolution lol

>>724487487 (OP)
Pokemon really fell off after gen 1

>>724487487 (OP)
Besides the plant snake, the ones in the picture aren't bad looking, there are way worse examples from newer generations. Still, simple designs will always be superior to forced "complex" designs that end up looking retarded.

>>724502208
looking at this, why isnt it more spiky?

>>724487487 (OP)
I genuinely think Gen 1 is the only one with soulful designs. They all look ugly cute, like they were designed to be actual monsters in the world - inoffensive because it's a kids' games, but not pandering. You might call them ugly-cute. Later on, they just became ugly or cute. The mascot-pandering is especially noticeable, like they realized young girls were a major audience for them.

Why are they posting illegal shit in the thread?
>>724520131
I dunno I still find Voltorb and Electrode to be stupid as fuck but I love them anyway.

>objectmon hate thread
Not on my watch.

>>724487487 (OP)
love hydreigon
shame that fairy-troons fuck him over unless you use tera

>>724520489
Honestly something was gonna happen eventually since they kept making every psudo after Tyranitar a dragon type.

>>724520489
or you switch to your poison type

>>724520421
video?

>>724500942
Whoa I never knew baxcalibur could look like not shit. >>724502208 is just so ass

>>724521053
post it

>>724520646
>what is metagross
I am sick of pseudos always being dragons. Goodra was especially egregious because it's bad on TOP of being a pure dragon type. Do something unexpected. Make a bug pseudo.

>>724502208
>>724520024
I don't know. Its stupid head makes it look like Homer Simpson. You could probably easily fix this thing by splitting its back spike in two and make them look like wings, and putting some kind of backward spike on its head.

>>724487487 (OP)
best part is that all 3 of them are beter than the older ones