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Anonymous No.724519043 [Report] >>724519109 >>724520441 >>724520578 >>724521521 >>724521763 >>724521770 >>724521792 >>724522965 >>724523189 >>724523307 >>724528178 >>724528660 >>724529082 >>724530610 >>724531016 >>724531262 >>724531889 >>724534602
>Wilds is now getting outsold by Rise and a collection of 20 year old DMC games

This game is completely fucked isn't it
Anonymous No.724519109 [Report] >>724520050 >>724526054 >>724534912 >>724535050
>>724519043 (OP)
Selling less than Rise is actually really grim no matter how you look at it
Anonymous No.724519185 [Report]
DMC5 is a fucking 6 year old game and it sold more this year than it did on release. Absolutely insane
Anonymous No.724519805 [Report] >>724525486 >>724530437
World sold about 30 million lifetime, they probably expected Wilds to hit *at least* 40 million lifetime, it's gonna be lucky if it hits even half that. Capcom are probably in full panic mode right now because their sales projections are way off
Anonymous No.724520050 [Report] >>724534064
>>724519109
Rise is the best MH game and the second best selling one.
Anonymous No.724520083 [Report]
capcom cycle continues lmfao
Anonymous No.724520441 [Report] >>724530271
>>724519043 (OP)
Kinda what happens when you exclude 95% of your prior playerbase by making the game unplayable even on the beefiest hardware.
Piece of shit turned even me off, not to speak of all the other problems like QoL-ing every challenge and the fun out of it. This is a managers game who huffed their own farts of "accessibility" because MORE players playing means MORE numbers and if number go up monkey doing good job.

Just thinking wilds makes me mad, man.
Anonymous No.724520578 [Report] >>724520863 >>724520972 >>724528525
>>724519043 (OP)
its cuz this game's woke, not like "REEE I DONT LIKE MINORITIES" but like it wont shut the fuck up about environmentalism and natives and whatever and shit when all i care about is killing the giant fucking dragon. it genuinely pisses me off because it wants me to care about something i have literally paid $60 to destroy
Anonymous No.724520863 [Report]
>>724520578
like i remember in the fucking tutorial some monster's trying to kill me and the native dude and the bitch says "THE GUILD AUTHORIZES YOU TO HUNT THIS MONSTER" or something like that like bitch i didnt ask for bureaucracy in my game or YOUR stupid ass to tell me what to do, if she wasn't invincible i would have killed her next
Anonymous No.724520880 [Report] >>724520970 >>724521201 >>724521580 >>724523609 >>724529081 >>724529264
More story content coming soon
Anonymous No.724520970 [Report] >>724522261 >>724533993
>>724520880
Probably the most tonedeaf director in all of gaming. I can't believe this retarded jap thought the story was the reason people wanted the game. At least YoshiP knows why everyone hates his game and him.
Anonymous No.724520972 [Report] >>724521968
>>724520578
Is it pseudo-satirical like World? Where they're going on about how vitally important various monsters are to the ecosystem and then say, "now, how do we kill it?" It annoyed me at first but by the end of Iceborne it seemed pretty self-aware.
Anonymous No.724521201 [Report]
>>724520880
"Most games are pretty simple. You jump on enemies, you die, you have to insert another quarter to continue. Monster Hunter: Wilds changed that."
Anonymous No.724521521 [Report] >>724521640 >>724522205 >>724525537 >>724525698
>>724519043 (OP)
So the numbers for DMC5 in this quarter include those for 5SE, but the lifetime cited is actually those of the base game. (For reference, it was also like this on last report.)

The previous report put base DMC5 at 10.5 million units sold. This means that *at most* the base game sold some 284,000 units this quarter.

Meaning DMC5SE sold around 1.85 million units this past quarter.

What the actual fuck is going on? Do people not have anything else to buy on current gen consoles?
Anonymous No.724521580 [Report]
>>724520880
>more walk and talk segments
Anonymous No.724521640 [Report] >>724522205 >>724522818 >>724526012
>>724521521
And btw these are the previous for 5SE.

It more than *DOUBLED* in a single quarter, FIVE (5) years after release.
Anonymous No.724521763 [Report]
>>724519043 (OP)
Interesting, is this still because of the animated series?
Anonymous No.724521770 [Report] >>724521876
>>724519043 (OP)
Why did DMC5 suddenly sell over 2 million units?
Anonymous No.724521792 [Report]
>>724519043 (OP)
Capcom never fucking learns, don't they?
Anonymous No.724521876 [Report] >>724522124 >>724522674
>>724521770
Because that retarded Netflix show.
Anonymous No.724521968 [Report]
>>724520972
no. not in the slightest. i am riding through an area(interrupting me playing with my irl friend, btw) and the game slows me to a crawl so it can yammer on about insects or whatever. no irony and as obtrusive as possible
Anonymous No.724522124 [Report]
>>724521876
They were also smart and had a very good deal on the entire DMC franchise at the same time, it was an effortless jumping in point
Anonymous No.724522205 [Report]
>>724521521
>>724521640
Maybe there's a correlation between console gaming and people who watch shitty netflix shows..
Anonymous No.724522261 [Report] >>724522409 >>724522724 >>724522902 >>724523423 >>724525905 >>724525909 >>724529256 >>724534178
>>724520970
I haven't touched Wilds yet since it's ugly as fuck and I feel insulted just looking at it, but regardless... It sounds like they did a shitty story and told it badly, but wouldn't you agree if a MH game had an actually good story it would be a big asset? I mean something that doesn't intrude on gameplay, more like ambient storytelling, memorable interesting characters you can encounter in the world and talk to and do quests for, etc. Maybe they join you on hunts and have special abilities or set you up for big attacks, etc.

Maybe it's just me but if a game has no story at all I just bounce off it. I need a reason to be doing the things I'm doing, even if it's incredibly flimsy. Like literally the intro to Bubble Bobble was good enough, one line of text that said basically "let's go on an adventure into the cave of monsters." Great! Let's!

When I tried MH on 3DS, what I was doing felt so out of context I was immediately bored.
Anonymous No.724522409 [Report]
>>724522261
Capcom has literally never made a game with a good story so I don't know why they've been trying to focus on that. And before someone brings up DMC3 or some RE, those games have fun characters but the actual plot of the game is never more than average.
Anonymous No.724522674 [Report] >>724524309
>>724521876
it's funny because the jeet in charge of the show hates that DMC5 even exists.
Anonymous No.724522724 [Report]
>>724522261
>but wouldn't you agree if a MH game had an actually good story it would be a big asset? I mean something that doesn't intrude on gameplay, more like ambient storytelling, memorable interesting characters you can encounter in the world and talk to and do quests for, etc. Maybe they join you on hunts and have special abilities or set you up for big attacks, etc.

No, a big appeal of old Monster Hunter was just how straight to the point it was. It's even in the name, it's not called "The New World of Evengelza" or something like that, it's just "Monster Hunter", exactly what it fucking says on the tin. Monster Hunter was good because you looked at the gameplay and said "Yup, that's a game about hunting monsters".

The more the franchise diluted this the worse it got
Anonymous No.724522818 [Report] >>724527216
>>724521640
Oh and for reference, this means DMC5, now at 14.3 million units, has sold more units than RE8 and the remakes of RE3 and RE4.

The remake of RE2 (16.3m), RE7 (15.9m), RE5 (15.8m), RE6 (14.9m) and original RE4 (14.8m) are still ahead of it.

But you know what else? It's now sold more than Street Fighter motherfucking 2, which sold something like 14.1 million units.

DMC5 is now the most sold Capcom game that isn't RE or MH.
Anonymous No.724522902 [Report] >>724523143
>>724522261
They already had a good story in MH4U.
Anonymous No.724522965 [Report]
>>724519043 (OP)
Rise chads win again
Anonymous No.724523054 [Report]
RiseGODS
Anonymous No.724523093 [Report] >>724523118 >>724523607 >>724523609 >>724530676 >>724534565
So what exactly is so terrible about Wilds anyway? I remember a lot of people complaining about terrible performance issues when it released but surely that wasn't the only thing and they've also presumably fixed a lot of them by now right?
Anonymous No.724523118 [Report] >>724523206
>>724523093
There are brown people in it
Anonymous No.724523143 [Report] >>724529410 >>724534435
>>724522902
And Wilds was clearly trying to be a sequel to it.
Anonymous No.724523189 [Report]
>>724519043 (OP)
they can't stop winning!
Anonymous No.724523206 [Report] >>724523689
>>724523118
And?
Anonymous No.724523307 [Report] >>724523493 >>724523730
>>724519043 (OP)
>mfw all the mainline DMC games charted except 4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJZoP6CPBbI
Anonymous No.724523423 [Report]
>>724522261
Im here for the cool big dragons, the humans can fuck off.
Anonymous No.724523493 [Report] >>724523742
>>724523307
I can promise you at least 95% of the sales of the collection were for DMC3.
Anonymous No.724523607 [Report]
>>724523093
>nd they've also presumably fixed a lot of them by now right?
Anonymous No.724523609 [Report]
>>724523093
>So what exactly is so terrible about Wilds anyway?

This headline about sums it up >>724520880
It's a game made by people who don't understand the appeal of their own franchise
Anonymous No.724523689 [Report] >>724523808
>>724523206
They're ingrained into a completely retarded plot involving tribals who have no idea how weapons work (not even joking) and that's why you have to help them slay monsters. But not the WRONG monsters, because the little jeetling who you have to babysit for the whole story is secretly a scalie who resonates with the big bad dragon and so you have to try and win through the power of friendship first.

This is the kind of shit you're always going to find in these "culturally diverse" games, so it's inherently bad.
Anonymous No.724523730 [Report]
>>724523307
DMC5 is just DMC4 but better so that makes sense
Anonymous No.724523742 [Report]
>>724523493
As it should be.
Anonymous No.724523808 [Report]
>>724523689
Why are you blatantly lying/misrepresenting what happens?
Anonymous No.724524174 [Report] >>724524456
The real monhun pill to swallow is quite simply that monhun is very niche and doesn't actually appeal to all too many people.
For reasons, World reached a much larger audience. But thing is, most people who played World either got their fill, or came to the conclusion that monhun weren't really for them after all or at least not enough to play future games.

But it's worth noting that this doesn't even mean that monhun is bad. It just means that monhun managed to throw a wide, wide net, catching people from audiences that weren't and would never be long time fans to begin with. So with every new entry the monhun audience shrinks and shrinks to its actual true size of actual monhun fans. As non-fans are filtered.
Anonymous No.724524309 [Report] >>724525737 >>724525823
>>724522674
That's not funny, why the fuck they put people that hates the source material in charge of adaptations of the same?!
Anonymous No.724524456 [Report]
>>724524174
Monster Hunter is big niche like Extraction Shooters, people are confusing big niche with mainstream. MH is very successful in its niche, but its never going to be played by chad who just wants CoD and Madden on a sunday night. This is also why Extraction Shooters aren't the next Battle Royale like some people hope, their appeal is limited, even though they're popular.
Anonymous No.724525486 [Report]
>>724519805
21.7 million but World and Rise being so close probably convinced capcom that had this shit in the bag but they forgot that world had the normie appeal and rise had the tendy appeal
Anonymous No.724525537 [Report]
>>724521521
DMC lives on through memes and its general presence in the video game sphere. People around the world are starting to play it more.
Anonymous No.724525698 [Report]
>>724521521
>What the actual fuck is going on? Do people not have anything else to buy on current gen consoles?

Unironically yes, this has been a dogshit gen for AAA singleplayer games. PC gamers are probably more likely to play indies in general but if you're a console gamer and just want like a linear action game with some decent production values and cool cinematics there's geniunely not that much to choose from.
Anonymous No.724525737 [Report]
>>724524309
The creatures who make these decisions hold no love for the source material, the game devs or its fans. Only the money matters and even bad publicity is still publicity. Its apathy.
Anonymous No.724525823 [Report] >>724527263
>>724524309
He said he was disappointed that it did well because he wanted to be able to say he saved the franchise
Anonymous No.724525905 [Report]
>>724522261
>if a MH game had an actually good story it would be a big asset?
no, because it'd almost certainly require even more of the horrible shit Wilds was doing with a billion cutscenes and forced walking sections
the best story a MH game could produce is one that is entirely optional, with every cutscene skippable and no walk-and-talk sections at all; even World had those and they are absolutely mind-numbing
everything you described sounds absolutely fucking horrible, I am here to smack monsters with a car-sized slab of steel and play online with my brother, the more that gets in the way of me doing those things, the worse of a MH game it is
Anonymous No.724525909 [Report] >>724526126 >>724527616 >>724531016
>>724522261
Wilds story is literally
>monster attacks village indian boy is from
>monster leads hunters into wild goose chase, indian boy wants revenge
>turns out monster is from le ancient civilization tm pending
>turns out the monster is an artificially created creature from extinct species
>monster eventually surpasses its artificialness and becomes ""real""
>indian boy for some reason is compelled by this (wtf) and doesnt want it dead anymore
>bla bla bla another super artificial monster weapon threatens to destroy the world bla bla bla you kill it
>the initial monster successfully gets revived as a species (which rapes the surrounding ecosystem because its a super predator) because apparently the first one had an egg somehow

Its so stupid
Anonymous No.724526012 [Report]
>>724521640
The magic of Steam

It goes on sale every other week for 10 aud
Anonymous No.724526054 [Report] >>724526220
>>724519109
Rise is already a complete game. People are holding off on buying Wilds until
A) It gets the hundreds of patches it needs
B) Its expansion releases
because otherwise you'll have to pay another $40-60 for the expansion instead of just buying a $60 bundle for both.
Anonymous No.724526126 [Report] >>724527163
>>724525909
MH stories were better when they was just about a rookie hunter being stationed out in the boonies, constantly improving and earning the goodwill of the villagers, and ultimately staving off a monster that genuinely threatens their livelihood.
Anonymous No.724526220 [Report]
>>724526054
People also are probably coming around to it now that they aren't being constantly told to avoid it like the plague.
Anonymous No.724527163 [Report]
>>724526126
>MH stories
Anonymous No.724527216 [Report]
>>724522818
Glad DMC5 finally outsold that dogshit RE3 remake, embarrassing that such a blatant low effort cash grab sold that well
Anonymous No.724527263 [Report] >>724527465 >>724527498
>>724525823
What the fuck? Also didn't people ended up giving shit because he ruined Lady and made fucking REFUGEE DEMONS?
Anonymous No.724527465 [Report]
>>724527263
yeah I'm pretty sure a ton of people hate the neflix shit. hell I would not be surprised if the normies playing the games for the first time after watching the shitty netflix show end up liking the games way more.
Anonymous No.724527498 [Report]
>>724527263
Correct
https://youtu.be/9dDC1yQL7_k
Anonymous No.724527616 [Report] >>724528040
>>724525909
I could understand what they tried to do with the kid, but it was told very poorly. The idea clearly was to have the parallel be that his life spent living with his people was basically npc tier adherence to strict unchanging ways of living, and he only discovered there was anything new or different by being forced out to see the world with your hunter. So seeing the monster break free of its programming and enslavement to a specific way of living is what triggers his change in opinion.
Anonymous No.724528040 [Report] >>724528462
>>724527616
The stupid kid makes no sense from a narrative point if view. Also the whole game makes a big deal about "making your choices" only to have you literally take the option of choice from the retarded kid at the end, making the whole message the game hammered into your head until then POINTLESS.
Anonymous No.724528178 [Report]
>>724519043 (OP)
ITSUNO CANT STOP WINNING
Anonymous No.724528462 [Report]
>>724528040
In an older MH game, it probably would have been structured instead so it's YOU who is in the kid's place, and the Hunter we play as in the game instead would be your mentor/guide, as it potentially makes more sense that way as it would have been closer to the rivalry/understanding between the hunter and the flagship in older games. But for some reason they decided for our hunter to be this person with an established off-screen history of being a bigshot experienced hunter already.
Anonymous No.724528525 [Report] >>724528630 >>724530376
>>724520578
>environmentalism is "woke"
honestly I can't wait for you genetic dead ends to off yourselves already and stop ruining my hobby
monhun has always been about humans living in harmony with nature, as was its inspiration Studio Ghibli films. that's LITERALLY the fucking point of hunting monsters since the beginning of the series.
god I fucking hate you election tourist faggots.
Anonymous No.724528591 [Report]
The next monhun should be on UE5
Anonymous No.724528630 [Report] >>724528773 >>724529034
>>724528525
>X was always Y chud
suck on a 9mm pacifier
Anonymous No.724528660 [Report]
>>724519043 (OP)
Okay now post the Rise playercount.
Anonymous No.724528773 [Report]
>>724528630
>zoomzoom just discovered video games in 2016 and thinks every game is "woke" for having any kind of messaging beyond "press button collect loot xd"
is there a more reviled type of person in gaming? truly you are the worst.
Anonymous No.724529034 [Report]
>>724528630
Incredible how some people can be so arrogant about being wrong.
Anonymous No.724529081 [Report]
>>724520880
>MH wilds
>popularity
cue to the negative reviews on steam lmao
Anonymous No.724529082 [Report]
>>724519043 (OP)
But people LOVED Nata
Anonymous No.724529256 [Report]
>>724522261
personally I don't look out for stories in games. if they're good or bad I can play a game as long as the gameplay is good. the problem with wilds isn't just the quality of the story, it's the fact that the story is intrusive as well. so you have a shitty story that is being forced on you. think the unskippable cutscenes and and weird story segments in world cranked to 11, that's what wilds is
Anonymous No.724529264 [Report]
>>724520880
Someone needs to fucking fire the nepobaby Ryozo
Anonymous No.724529410 [Report]
>>724523143
and it was so simple that I'm appalled that they completely failed. like ever since world came out you could see that they started using 4 NPCs since they were plenty and a lot of them liked, but they couldn't do anything as simple or compelling
Anonymous No.724530027 [Report]
I hope Wilds is the end of Capcom's failed experiment of realistic open world MH
Even then Wilds isn't open world as people understand open world to mean. It's still fucking segmented maps and the corridors are loading-screens-by-another-name
Risebreak even had better open world traversal because you could wirebug and ninja run almost anywhere on the map compared to Wilds' seikret-taxi-routes
Anonymous No.724530271 [Report]
>>724520441
I have no problem running the game and getting 80-90 fps with no framegen in fights.
but the gameplay is ass. they made pretty much every weapon dogshit and awful to use with so many absurd balance choices, it isn't about power level, its about the usability and feel of them. add in the stupid story and the amount of bullshit you need to do for it and how forced it is.

they made the worst monster hunter game AND its very poorly optimized.
I knew a lot of normies who were giving wilds a try after the other stuff had heard about the series and it seems to have completely turned them off it, wilds was such a colossal fuck up for them.
Anonymous No.724530376 [Report] >>724530606
>>724528525
Times change, letting you choose between male and female in character creation was unremarkable before 2016, now it become a political statement, a rather radical one even
Ditching a long running theme in the series is the same as ditching the longer running notion of binary genders for type-A / type-B, only reason Capcom's doing the latter but not the former is because people complaining about the former are not radical / deranged enough to strike fear into their hearts
Anonymous No.724530437 [Report]
>>724519805
Correct. And the problem is that they almost certainly based future budgets and spending on projected sales from Wilds. Anons here will tell you 10 million is great (which it objectively is), but the fact the sales fell off a cliff is going to have significant ramifications for Crapcoms operations for years.
Anonymous No.724530606 [Report] >>724533673
>>724530376
Man, I don't like a/b shit either but you're a fucking retard if you think a series compromising one of its core themes is remotely comparable to changing one line of text in a menu you only ever see once.
Anonymous No.724530610 [Report]
>>724519043 (OP)
Anonymous No.724530676 [Report]
>>724523093
>they've also presumably fixed a lot of them by now right?
Anonymous No.724530873 [Report]
Capcom listened to Worldfags and this is the result
Anonymous No.724531016 [Report]
>>724519043 (OP)
What am I missing?
I played the demo and I was like 'Oh so it's just world: another one and they didn't even add or change anything' and I just lost all interest entirely.

>>724525909
>turns out monster is from le ancient civilization tm pending
So like all monsters and hunters have been from the start.
Anonymous No.724531262 [Report]
>>724519043 (OP)
Anonymous No.724531720 [Report] >>724532113 >>724533908 >>724533968
>rise add Tsukino
>the cat becomes a sex symbol
>wild allow cats to talk english
>*crickets*
Explain
Anonymous No.724531889 [Report]
>>724519043 (OP)
I'm tired of pretending Surge Slash wasn't the sickest addition to GS.
Anonymous No.724532113 [Report]
>>724531720
Felynes in general have more porn than most of the monsters I'm pretty sure, and that's even before she existed.
Anonymous No.724533673 [Report]
>>724530606
Wilds is precisely when it stopped being "one line of text", for one there's no longer gendered armor sets, every piece of armor now have to fit both the male and female models
Anonymous No.724533908 [Report] >>724534068
>>724531720
Sunbreak's story is actually pretty good, having a cute wife sidekick with you makes everything better.
Anonymous No.724533968 [Report]
>>724531720
>rise add Tsukino
That'd be Stories 2
Anonymous No.724533993 [Report]
>>724520970
>director
Producer, the most retarded guy in the team who said that, Ryozo, is a producer
Anonymous No.724534064 [Report]
>>724520050
This
Anonymous No.724534068 [Report]
>>724533908
>wife
*sister-wives
Anonymous No.724534178 [Report] >>724534527
>>724522261
>Like literally the intro to Bubble Bobble was good enough,
Then even the original MH backstory was good enough. If you don't like the gameplay you won't like it no matter what.
Anonymous No.724534435 [Report]
>>724523143
Yeah and it failed miserably.
Anonymous No.724534527 [Report] >>724534737
>>724534178
>original MH backstory
Nta, but I will happily take ecology intros over Wild's attempt at a story.
Anonymous No.724534565 [Report] >>724534684
>>724523093
Remember the quest in World where you have to follow around a wagon full of researchers in Wildspire Waste which ends with the Barroth fight? The one they jokingly titled "The Best Kind of Quest" because they know how unpopular escort quests are?

They went and made an entire game around that idea. Except, it's worse in every way. In that quest in World, you could fuck off and collect bugs or mushrooms or fight things. You could run across to the other side of the map. You could optionally kill a Rathian. Occasionally you'd have to run back to the escort wagon when it would stop while Handler kept pinging you but otherwise you could do whatever you wanted.

In Wilds's story you get no freedom. If you try to fuck off, you get told you are going too far away from the objective. If you try to kill something before the game wants you to, your guild babysitter tells you that you're not approved to fight that monster.

And that's not touching on the stupid auto-ride to the monster default on your not-chocobo that entails tracking now, the bizarre co-op decisions, the increasingly brown groups of people you have to save in each town while babysitting some annoying orphan for some reason, the lackluster map design which doesn't matter anyway because you auto-ride, the lack of challenge, the terrible wounds mechanic, the dropped inputs, or the piss-poor PC performance. Oh, and everybody has voice acting now, but not in Monster Hunter language.
Anonymous No.724534602 [Report]
>>724519043 (OP)
well capcom intentionally destroyed the monster hunter series so yeah it is they did this on purpose because karen at hr hated how the old games worked so they gutted the entire series.
Anonymous No.724534684 [Report] >>724534814
>>724534565
man when he needs to do a 5 hour tutorial to gain access to full mechanic of the game (weather) so the game hard railroads you into doing it for sure instead of sperging around for 30 hours in unfinished game.
Anonymous No.724534737 [Report]
>>724534527
The barebone original MH, not Wilds shit
Anonymous No.724534814 [Report]
>>724534684
Man when he forces himself to play the newest slop instead of any other game in the series which will every other sane person is doing at this point
Anonymous No.724534912 [Report]
>>724519109
Rise is a good game, Wilds isn’t. Selling less isn’t grim, it’s just expected
Anonymous No.724535050 [Report]
>>724519109
The reason why Wilds didn't sell that much is because the target audience (Japan) is mostly on the Switch.
Rise sold over 7.5M on Switch alone before being ported to other platforms, and it probably ended up selling over 10M on Switch, more than Xbox + Playstation + PC combined.
That's why Wilds flopped, it relied on PC tards who don't actually buy games.
As for Monster Hunter World, that was in January 2018, before Japan had fully migrated to the Switch.