Thread 724733303

What's the appeal of Disgaea and how does it compare to something like FFT or Fire Emblem?

pedos who like grinding are the target audience

>>724733506
I don't like grinding... I guess I will look for something else to play.

>>724733303 (OP)
Makes me wonder if Etna has large nipples to balance out her flat chest

>>724733303 (OP)
Disgaea games are on sale on steam. Honest question, which do I get if any? I've played Tactics Ogre, Langrisser 1 and 2 and FE 4-8 before as background of grid based games.

>>724734239
the first one

>>724733303 (OP)
I wouldn't compare it to FE at all.
As for the appeal it depends, some like the exagerated number scaling, some are into the humor and weeb stuff, and some actually like it as part of Trpg genre.

>>724734239
get disgaea 1 and disgaea 5. 1 is literally three (3) dollars right now and while the mechanics are improved by later games it has the best story. 5 is by far the best one in terms of mechanics and gameplay, and its 75% off.

there's more charactere customisation in Disgaea imo with the choice of spells/weapons/evilities. + weapon grinds and innocents. And unlike fft where combos make the game too easy and unfun, in disgaea you are required to break the rules to progress.

>>724734427
tummypilled series

>>724734427
Ok.

anons will look at this flat stick like body and say sex

>>724735140
sex

>>724735140
sex

>>724735275
Too bad this protag has the most shit taste in waifus

>>724734787
just checked steam

>>724733303 (OP)
flat

>>724735140
sex

>>724735641
Kinda sucks how after 4 they stopped re-subtitling updated releases

>>724735860
Fucking hot.

>>724735140
>>724735860
Do flat girls get upset when you say you like their chest the way it is

>>724735641
Is Disgaea PC Steam a good port? Does it add anything compared to the PSP version?

I've been having a fun time being Metallia's lackey while putting my space heater 5 to use.
Combat isn't really something to write home about, but the 3d models are rather nice for what I've been told was NIS first 3d game.

>>724735965
PC is the best version. it is the DS version but is better in just about every way from graphic to Music and content. The PC version is missing the prinny commentary that is exclusive to the DS version

>>724736249
Is it the same with Disgaea 2 PC? I only played those two and checked out of the rest of the series. I'd like to replay them.

>>724735947
Yes, they think you're laughing at them.

>>724735965
>>724736249
It's worth noting that technically the "definitive" version of D1 is the D1 Complete mobile port, since it has a couple of extra features over the Switch remake. That said it comes with the downside of having to deal with touch controls, so maybe use a wireless controller.

>>724733303 (OP)
She fucks prinnies BTW.

>>724733303 (OP)
For me, it's the story, the charming characters, and the game's sense of humor. Playing it is fun, since I like Tactics RPGs, but the real appeal to me was these guys.

People go on and on about the endgame grind and maxing out numbers on a spreadsheet to one shot God or whatever. But I honestly, HONESTLY couldn't care less about that. I got partway through the postgame in virtually all the NIS titles I've played before eventually getting bored due to the lack of cutscenes and story elements to keep me invested. That's Hour of Darkness, Cursed Memories, and Phantom Brave. And technically Makai Kingdom but even sooner because the gameplay is so completely removed from the plot in that game it's almost like two separate entities for the most part.

I feel like I'm in the extreme minority because Disgaea and related games have this massive looming reputation of being all about grinding for bigger numbers, but I just like how cute they are. So whenever anyone talks about playing Disgaea, I always tell them not to be intimidated by the endless grinding, because it doesn't have to be what the game is about. You can enjoy these games casually with very little exp grind, they're not hard, and the story and setting (at least in the earlier entries) is great.

>>724734239
first 2 games i guess

>>724734160
She's just got a chest and nipples like a 10 year old girl, to match her figure

>>724733303 (OP)
it's an anime fan series

>>724736669
>remakes don't have HD sprites for based cyclop and based manticore and completely misses the SOUL of the regional look of older classes
YIKES DOOD

>>724733303 (OP)
my own reason is that I have more fun routing out how to beat levels with minimum turn counts than trying to figure out how to beat the level at all.
this also extends to the grinding in da grindan game, where the fun is in routing out the fastest way to whatever goal you're chasing.
finding out that prinny/prinny team explosions in 7 give EXP to the unit that exploded felt like the monolith scene from Planet of the Apes to me.

>>724734160
She doesn't, but she should.

IF Etna is so good
why did they never make Etna 2?

>>724738693
Someone post THAT

>>724737034
>I always tell them not to be intimidated by the endless grinding, because it doesn't have to be what the game is about. You can enjoy these games casually with very little exp grind, they're not hard, and the story and setting (at least in the earlier entries) is great.
sounds good, does it have the shit reinforcements mechanic like fire emblem?

>>724738693
They did, and Raspberryl > Etna

>>724738753
nope, the enemies on the map when you start are all that shows up, except when there's enemy bases but those are also clearly marked when you load into the map.

>>724738907
Only her tail is better because is FAT

>>724733506
Not really. You can play the games for like 80+ hours without grindan much at all.

>>724738693
They did.

>>724738907
It's not Raspberyl, dummy

>>724739208
This. You might have to hit up the item world occasionally between stages but that's pretty much it. The need for big level grind doesn't come up until after the main plot is completed anyway, until then it's just a normal tactics RPG not THAT much different from FFT or Tactics Ogre. At least in terms of doing side shit for more exp. With regards to flavor and mechanics it's quite different

>>724739231
Does older Hanako ever come back in games past 2?

>>724738753
NTA but if you only ever play story mode, these games indeed aren't grindy (or hard either if you're into that, certainly not like FE can be in certain games or difficulty modes). In fact I'd even say that unless you have literally never played any number of other srpgs before, then they are almost laughably easy.

You don't quite play Disgaea for the mechanics imo. You play these games because of the whacky characters and animations, or because you enjoy grindan. Grindan is optional side content, story mode is where the characters shine.

Any game other than 6 is good. Older games might require some fuckery to make them work probably, idk, but 7, 5 and 4 at least are really easy to get into.

And like that anon said, other than some niche situations in the Item World afaik there are typically no reinforcements on the map at all.

>>724739374
>succubus

>>724733303 (OP)
Its the only Tactics JRPG with actually quirky humor (Due to being self aware of how stupid and inane the plot is and not reddit tier bants quirky/trannified localization.) One of the cute girls is a cute boy actually type of humor and its played straight in Japanese and English.

>>724739497
Not sure but I'd assume so. Later Disgaea games like featuring cameo appearances from other titles. Laharl, Etna, Flonne, Axel, etc. So it wouldn't surprise me if Hanako (and Taro) popped up here and there

>>724739374
look at that tail.

>>724739231
How do you call this body type?

>>724739861
bowling pin

>>724739861
Kid starting puberty whose shorts are starting to feel tighter for some reason. Fortunately, her idol Etna will never have that problem

>>724739497
>>724739820
I've never seen Future Hanako show up again, which is unfortunate

>>724740182
Surprised they didn't use her in the gacha.

>>724740182
That is a pity

>>724734239
>>724734787
If you have a Switch or PS4, get Disgaea 1 Complete. It has a bunch of QoL compared to Disgaea 1 PC. Only thing you lose is old school sprites, if you care about those.

>>724740285
>>724740169
>>724739374
How many flat redheads are there?

>>724740383
A bunch. None can beat the OG Etna though.

I wish Disgaea was an H-game series like Rance or something. It's already more or less an ecchi comedy, I wish it had gone all the way in that direction.

>>724740528
I see you're a man of culture!

>>724740549
Jennifer was too much for young me during this whole chapter.

>>724740549
I think the self-referential and comedic strategy h-game niche is already well-filled, much moreso than Disgaea's own niche

>>724739728
Somewhat related to 'trannyfied localizations': I also find Disgaea to be the ONLY series with a passable EN dub, and I'm a turboweeb. The VAs really own it.

>>724733303 (OP)
The appeal is game-play, Harada art, and Sato music. I like making parties that only consist of cute, flat female generics for example. The strategy element is good if you set restrictions for yourself like not allowing ally deaths but this is also a series where you can just grind until you're absurdly over-powered. Heavy grinding isn't required to just go through the main story chapters and is optional post-game stuff. I wouldn't really say it's an easy or hard game, the level of challenge really comes down to how you play it specifically and what you want out of the game. The earlier entries were a little harder to break though but eventually the series added things like the cheat shop to allow custom balancing. The first game had memorable story/characters but I wouldn't really say story is the main appeal of these games outside of 1. PS2-era NIS was just a different company and they had a certain style that gradually became lost over the years. I still love all the games but I don't really play them for the story, that's all. Like 5 was designed for a wider audience and has the most cliche cookie cutter shounen story known to man but it's still a good game if you're just playing it for the game-play. The games don't really play like FFT or FE at all. You have a player phase and enemy phase where each side performs all it's actions at once. You've also got lift/throw and geo symbol mechanics which are some of Disgaea's more unique mechanics. Liking FFT and FE won't guarantee you like Disgaea but it's possible to like more than one thing. I like both Disgaea and FFT but I don't care about the FE series whatsoever.

>>724740764
I think Etna's original VA from the PS2 game was leagues better than her replacement though.

Disgaea's appeal over other games in the genre is that it has a focus on broad ways to increase your characters strength. As the game progresses you get more and more ways to make a character strong and you can pick and choose what you want. Leveling your item? Go for it. Leveling your characters specialisations? Got it. Reincarnating for better growth and stats? Sure. Evilities (passives) that play to that units strengths? Yep.

During the main story this is a fairly gradual escalation, that ends with units feeling pretty unique to each other thanks to their individual gimmicks. Post-game it then becomes about how hard you can break the game by putting all these together and making a super fuck-everything unit.

The moment to moment isn't very challenging, but by foregoing that it manages to have a very broad number of ways to level and that's fun in its own way.

>>724734036
You don't need to grind in any Disgaea game for the main story content. You only ever need to grind in post-game. You can absolutely enjoy Disgaea by just playing the main story like a normal TRPG and then stopping there.

>>724740892
To be honest I've somewhat gotten used to her new voice by now. But yeah, I'd have to agree.

>>724740823
>Sato music
I wish we could post music here, even as someone that doesn't pay attention to OSTs it is incredibly good.

>>724733303 (OP)
Compared to FFT:
- Story you can beat with between zero and minimal grinding that has some emotional, cute, etc moments but also doesn't take itself too seriously.
- No accuracy/faith checks on buffs landing.
- No cast time nonsense with magic.
- Up to 10 units at a time that you spawn/retreat freely from a base panel.
- Entire team turns instead of individual unit timelines. Lets you treat turns like a mini puzzle where you use synergies and combos to take out units you otherwise couldn't have.
- Systems to make grinding more efficient if you decide to do postgame stuff. Instead of "spend hours self buffing your units until they cap XP," you'd spend some time setting up items that give you huge XP boosts, and then be able to hit max level within a couple minutes per unit. Things like that.

nin nin~
I am American ninja desu~
Cow and burger, dood!

>>724691164
>Disgaea PC or 1 Complete if you want the higher res graphics (some things were removed in this version, but has some QoL)
>Disgaea 2 PC
>Disgaea 3 Absence of Detention
>Dsigaea 4 Complete+
>Disgaea D2 only has one version
>Disgaea 5 everywhere but on PC since they removed the online stuff
>stop there
is this true?

>>724741121
This was the only miss, like fucking rice donuts. in Pokémon dubs.

>>724741062
People embed MP3s sometimes but I don't know how to make that work.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0HpfxrnO2e8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvrDel14q_I

>>724739374
Why is this not getting deleted?

>>724741418
Janitor is busy jerking it off to CP.

>>724733303 (OP)
what were they thinking abandoning the sprites for 3D chibis? It completely killed my desire to play the games.

>>724741121
>I am an American ninja desu~
Teme..! We are rivals now. Sayonara! Sushi janai!

>>724741184
Pirilika was based though, rich morons are always the best characters.

>>724741540
>We must progress(re-gress) with the rest of the industry! That is what the players want!
>Huffs copium.

>>724733303 (OP)
>>724734036
newfag here who started the series a couple months ago after marathonning a bunch of srpg's this year (Triangle Strategy and 10 Fire Emblem games) and was already a longtime fan of FFT/FFTA
i played the stories only of Disgaea 1 and 2 and just finished the story of 5 and started the postgame
D1 and D2 were both worth playing for the story alone imo, D1 much more at least. both were about 20-25 hours or so each. disgaea 5 story took me 60 hours. the grind doesn't start until the postgame either. i'd just play the story of D1 which is $3 on Steam atm and see how you like the gameplay
it's really quite different from FE for many reasons but the big difference for me that was actually a great change of pace after playing 10 FE's back to back is just how "loose" the combat feels. long range attacks, crazy abilities, monster taming, typical HP/MP and spell types, throwing (which adds a lot more to the game than it seems like), the sheer amount of customization available to you, no permadeath so you can sacrifice teammates and such, etc.
FE is just very rigid in comparison, attacks from 1-2 spaces only, permadeath, and it just feels much more samey. that's not a knock against it at all, i love FE combat, but going to Disgaea after so many was very refreshing
the story, characters, and humor in D1 just made it a treat to play and it really helped me ease into the metric fuckton of mechanics 5 throws at you. after 65 hours of D5 i'm still lost on most of the mechanics

>>724741418
She's a succubus, so it's only natural for her to do that. We don't believe in discrimination here on 4channel.

>>724741795
I don't mind her but what is the trash in power doing?

>>724741730
>Triangle Strategy
Great now that song is playing in my head again. Triiiiangle strategyyyy lala laaa

>>724741335
Great gems.
https://youtu.be/1UQqPYZvluM?si=anbcw4Q0sq_NePER

>>724741178
>>Disgaea PC or 1 Complete if you want the higher res graphics (some things were removed in this version, but has some QoL)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJ7YhfWVXpE

>>724741921
>what is the trash in power doing?
Not receiving very many reports, that's for sure

Her name was George Flonne
Rest in Power
*kneels and raises fist*

>>724741418
it's censored enough to not be considered nudity :)

>>724742045
This is a hate crime!! Wait, no, since it's Flonne, that makes it a love crime!! Wait...

>>724742045
St. Flonnetanyl

>>724742167
>>724742130
>>724742084
I LOVE NAIZURI

>>724742084
>>724742130
>>724742167
When Etna said she was going to grind Laharl I didn't know this was what she meant.

MR ADVERTISER GET DOWN

>>724733303 (OP)
As you can see, 80% of Disgaea's appeal comes from its (admittedly S-tier) scantily clad, flat lolis.
Not that the other 20% can't stand on its own though.

>>724742178
How could hate crimes be real when you can just buy the court system?

I just ignore the cummy posts and enjoy instead :)

>>724742516
Its only Texas-Kun/Ireland-Kun that should worry about having Disgaea on their PC.

This thread needs more Rebooblican representation.

>>724742534
Bribing the dark assembly with bubble gum doesn't make it okay to choke Flonne. It makes it legal, yes, but not okay. Though knowing her she might actually be into that sort of thing

>>724741963
https://disgaea.fandom.com/wiki/Disgaea_1_Complete
The video's missing a ton of quality of life stuff. Check the comments.

>>724742672
Nekomata and Succubus are the first big tits generic i think of.

>>724742751
Hey! That's spoilers! OP might not know about Red Flonne yet

>>724742672
Rebooblican officials are the only ones who have canonically won, just saying.

>>724742751
Laharl is so lucky...

somewhere in america a pencil pusher sends a fax to a japanese office telling them to censor the US release of a videogame because it has girls in bikinis.
he then goes home, and turns on the television, switches the channel to HBO and watches two men have gay anal sex

>>724742938
Only for about an hour and a half per night, for the rest of the time he has to deal with those two's crazy antics and constantly driving him crazy

>Disgaea PC has screen tearing
>try to use a mod to fix it
>game sometimes shuts itself down between room transitions or while trying to load levels
It's a shame, I don't want to play Complete. I want my space demons. Guess I can emulate PSP.

>Disgaea 4 Complete+ finally on 70% sale again after a year of 50% sales despite them doing 70% before that
Finally jumped on it and now I own it four times (PS3, Vita, Switch and now PC)

It's peak I'm afraid

>>724742996
>and watches two men have gay anal sex
Just american things.

>>724733303 (OP)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yW97hg2pYQg

>>724743090
i love this silly shit

This is a good thread. I needed this

>>724743064
Have you checked your graphics card control panel/monitor settings? Might be worth a try

>>724743210
Disgaea 4 has some of my favourite animations mostly because some of them are just so batshit insane.

I'm glad we all understand the appeal of Disgaea, dood

>>724734427
Yeah, mechanically 5 is the the best, I'd agree.

the thread that saved /v/

>>724743374
Yeah.

>>724743064
>Disgaea PC
does it have auto battle or speed up?

>>724742751
but anon, little girls are not allowed

>>724743604
I'm pretty sure it has speed up, not sure about auto battle

what is your favorite team in Disgaea 5 for postgame? i haven't touched any generic units since there's so many characters and dlc characters. i'm just starting the postgame and need to figure out who to really invest in
>>724743604
nta but i used cheat engine for the speedhack, i wouldn't use autobattle so i don't care about that

>>724743361
I might have to see if that's the problem. I remember I got pretty mad at it continuously having different issues no matter what I did.

>>724743604
Auto battle is in 6, 7, and the mobile gotcha game. Meanwhile a lot of the other games have settings to make the game faster.

>>724743612
Moot? the guy that filtered the word "cuck" in all caps and then sold the site because he couldn't handle the banter?

>>724743779
the very same ferry prince

hows the story in D7?

>>724743779
i wonder what the fuck he is doing nowdays, is he still working at jewgle?

>>724743863
>another moot pic I don't know
>2 months ago
From when is this?

>>724743863
Have we heard anything from moot ever since he left? The only thing I've heard is he's working at Google.

>>724744000
probably getting aids in a californian AI pajeet scam tech firm

>>724743863
LITERALLY
WHO

>>724743612
>fuck anyone who wants [loli]
>not gonna add a million niche boards
Truly his legacy is one of total failure. I only wish he'd actually succeeded at reigning in all the political activist cancer and feelsfaggotry, but such were the limits of his influence. And now he's fucking gone. Oh well. Crazy how time and relationships can make people so goddamned lame

But enough about that self-exiled traitor, this is a Disgaea thread after all

im buying disgaea only for the tf2 items

>>724743779
I still don't know why onions is still filtered. Same with Ninten.drone that is flagged as spam

>>724744046
gg, 2014
his connections and simping for that whore were uncovered by /pol/, to which he reacted with removing captcha and reducing post timers

>>724744430
>2014
>/pol/
That unlocked a memory. I remember the HUGE shitstorm that was happening on there. I also remember the constant /v/ threads about FNAF

>>724744430
That site is trash.

>>724744430
ok rapeape

is there a link to the art book?

>>724744430
>eightchan()co
imagine living in the world where mark was less autistic and didn't add a "totally legal pictures of kids" board

Personally, I am a fan of flat chested females.

the one feature that could save the 3D models is costumes swaps

it's actually insane that disgaea had a shitty phone gacha that no one played and it has hundreds of original harada designs that are now in the void never to be seen again

>>724744963
Yeah.

>>724744963
Surely there's a way to have saved them and someones hoarding.

>>724742045
Flonne choking on Etna's horse cock.

>>724744963
I believe that one day we will be free.
I played it and made a monster team with DESCOs, but it is a pretty bad game.

>>724744963
Funnily enough, my favourite work from him in recent years has been his Fate/Grand Order servants. Wu Zetian and Beni-Enma are insanely good designs.

I love the comment from an interview where Nasu supposedly approached Harada with the job to design Beni-Enma and basically just said "she's a demon loli inn proprietress, you know what you're doing with that", gave no other guidance, and, unsurprisingly, Harada nailed it. Pic related.

>>724744963
>harada
hasn't been really involved in a while. the gatcha is mostly done by a copycat. he's really recognizable because his anatomy is really poor at time.

>>724745454
Desco is a bad girl

>>724735140
sex

>>724745467
rape

>>724735947

My gf looks like the mermaid in SMTV, in the first few years of me saying I love her small tits she thought I was messing with her, and acted anoyed but now she likes it

>>724745596
Artist?

>>724745467
Yes, I too enjoy the Chinese Majorita.

>>724744778
Look at how they massacred my boy...

>>724745657
Adding to this: Those wings are fake, by the way. They're attached to the top. Laharl's real wings are t e e n y t i n y little things.

>>724745542
That's wrong, idiot. DESCO is a good girl.

>>724741418
rasp is too strong for jannies

>>724745467
>>724745702
How DOES he do it? Man is a literal god.

>>724746171
delete this

>>724745662
stop spamming your off topic AIslop, avatar tranny

>>724733303 (OP)
made for BWC

>>724746475
Did someone say AIslop?

>>724733506
>>724734036
Just use the cheat shop like a proper netherworld demon

>>724746475
RUDE

>>724735947
yes actually they think you're lying usually

>>724746541
Honestly, that looks pretty nice. I can't be mad

>>724746909
They keep shrinking her clothes with every new entry.

>>724745542
>>724745995
You are both wrong, Desco is BEST girl.

Disgaea is like FFT with forty more hours of dungeons and a post game. Fire Emblem is baby shit please stop

>>724746967
As god intended

>>724746995
Shut up faggot.

>>724746973
Most based post ITT

In all seriousness, Desco is one of my all time fave characters. Absolutely unbelievably immensely cute

>>724747168
Can I pet the bunny?

>>724743520
All right ill play your series, which game do i start with first annons?

>>724747168
Honestly, modern Disgaea games have more character choices and optimization than FFT.

Based Desco Enjoyers

which game is more fun 4 Complete + or 5 Complete?

How is 2 PC?

>>724747396
If you want Etna and the "core" original experience, play Disgaea 1. Either via Disgaea PC or via Disgaea 1 Complete. Both versions have advantages over the other.

If you don't intend to play the whole series and want to jump in at the strongest gameplay, try 4 Complete+ or 5 Complete.

>>724735646
My god, everything in that image is objectively correct.
Please play Symphony of War: War of the Nephilim and Unicorn Overlord.

>>724747396
Disgaea Hour of Darkness. Honestly you could stop there, I still think it's got the best story and characters. But if you like the mechanics and you enjoy the setting, you could play 2, 5, 4, spinoffs, etc. I don't think they need to be played in any particular order, they're all pretty self contained

>>724747550
5 has better gameplay
4 has better story
nuff said.

>>724747406
Why look sad? She's 1400 years old, she should be able to take it.

>>724747550
that depends
do you want to fuck desco or usalia the most

>>724747550
Get both 4 and 5, and play them in order. You will appreciate the differences more then.

>>724747723
I see who desco is from this thread but who is usalia?

>>724747651
>and Unicorn Overlord
(On emulator).

>play disgaea 1 and 2
>like them
>play 3
>story and characters are cringe as fuck
made me drop the series
don't know if I should try 7

>>724747396
You start with the first one retard

>>724747550
Gameplay wise, 5 is 4 with a couple new mechanics added on (Revenge meter and the ability to have multiple Evilities with different values etc.). So purely from a gameplay fun perspective, 5 edges 4 out. However 4 Complete+ is probably the single most amount of content packed into a single game in the series. Two major post-game expansion stories (one from the original DLC, one from the Vita port) on top of the mini-character scenes from their individual DLCs, and then the main games post-game itself.

>>724747396
Disgaea PC or Disgaea 1 Complete
5 is an insane overload of mechanics, 1 will ease you into it and the story only takes about 20 hours
it also has the best story, characters, and humor

>>724747773
rabbit

>>724747773
The rascally rabbit posted earlier

>>724747773
the wabbit

>>724747651
Symphony of War was decent, I hope the sequel turns out ok.

>>724747618
>>724747653
Gotcha, i dunno if the vita/psp ones are any good, but I have a modded one and saw some of the disgaea games on the download list there so I'll look there first right now. Thanks annons!

>>724747813
How cringe a Disgaea is will vary from person to person, so no one can tell you. I personally liked the cast of 7 though.

>>724747651
UO was peak like everything Vanillaware does and I need to replay it.

>>724747651
Might as well recommend Conquest of Elysium and Dominions

desco desu desu desco desu

>>724747938
>>724747910
>>724747878
looks like I am going with 4 Complete + Desco looks better... also better story from what was posted.

>>724748049
Wasn't Dominions a 4x? Or am I thinking of a different god game?

>>724747813
3 is famously shit. they didnt even bother porting it to pc

>>724747986
The Vita version of 4 Complete is great. 4 Complete+ on modern systems is basically just that with very minor convenience enhancements. I absolutely love 4 and own it four times and the Vita one is probably the one I played most.

>>724747651
I liked Symphony of War. It was a solid little game, glad I stuck with it.

Dev definitely had a giantess/muscle girl fetish

LAS LAS
BERI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgqtR_l9b-s

>>724748113
kind of but not really it just has 4x-lite elements like total war

>>724747847
Man those attack animations are so stupid overkill in the new games.
I liked the ones in Disgaea 1 where it was shit like, swordsman does a dash and nicks multiple people on the side. Higher end attacks were crazier but even those had 1-2 moves to them, not a minute long improbable chain of events with extra bonus xxxplosions at every moment.

Disgaea 1 still feels the best of the series, it is far more serious and the humour is more whimsical, instead of the entire cast being utter fucking retards (Gordon and Flonne notwithstanding, and they have storyline reasons for it).

demoflat or rebooblican?

>>724748114
They should reboot 3 and toss the entire plot. Shit was a total mess.

>>724748501
demoflat for life

>>724748410
you can just skip the animation

>>724748501
Demoflat turned Rebooblican

>>724748501

>>724748410
In D1 you had to watch those animations a million times. D2 onward have had animation skip and more elaborate animations as a result.

>>724748757
Many such cases.

>>724748093
Good choice. I love the 4 cast besides prinny tsun especially val and fen-fen. Shame 5 complete is so much fun to play because the story and cast are pretty shit.

flonne's budding perkyflat breasts > etna's third world poverty washboard

>>724748093
Both are excellent and I genuinely think you can't go wrong with either, but I've always found it funny when people trash the story in 5 and imply the one in 4 is better.
The main antagonist in 4 is certainly better I guess, I can say that much.

>>724748501
Rebooblican for life
>>724748757
Same brother

HA, I thought I had a Disgaea Book and it turns out I have The World of Disgaea art book

>>724735947
very

>>724748410
Kinda crazy to hear that opinion about attacks when anons have been complaining about them going back to being simple since D6.
Also I would say that D4 and D7 were as serious as D1 was.

>>724749372
Different anon here, but I'm so far behind on Disgaea games that the last one I played was Dark Hero Days. Before then, I only played 1, 2, and the first Prinny game. I really need to play the rest, and both of these characters make me really want to get to 4. Their dynamic and story is compelling, and their alts in that mobile game that had a shit launch are fun designs.

>>724748049
Neither of those games are really in the same vein as anon is talking about. Dominions is the closer of the two though since you can at least program battle tactics.

>>724749372
There's been a contingent of people who started bashing on 4's story more often lately (aside from mocking the pink thing which always happened), at the same time anons are finally coming around to 5 actually having a good storyline.

>>724748139
I too bought and played the game because of that one image on the Steam page. You know exactly which one I am talking about.

>>724749668
Fuka and Desco are great, yes.
My post was more a defense of the story in 5 than an attack of any kind on 4
Like I said, I think they are both great and I love them.

>>724749829
The Axel chapter was fucking awful, that's the one genuinely bad part of the story that I remember. The main antagonist in 5 is kind of lame but the story is decent overall, and some of the other antagonists are great.

I really want a Disgaea spin-off where the scenario is essentially you're post-game and you're getting together with a bunch of other overlords to discuss how to deal with the issue of constantly getting summoned and enslaved in other netherworlds.

>>724749372
I recently played 5 after hearing so many people trash it for the story, especially compared to 4. It wasn't anywhere near as bad as people make it out to be. Sure it isn't fantastic but it felt in line with the series.

>>724749839
I had literally never heard of this game before today but I got curious so I looked it up.
All I can say is HOLY...

>>724749586
Good taste. I was at a con years ago and regret not getting it when i could

>>724750158
Fair warning if that is tempting you to play it. That is just one singular character that you get midway through the game, and that is only on one specific attack animation for a ranged attack that you won't do that often for her character. That being said decent game but will feel under baked for a while until you unlock most of the unit types.

>>724733303 (OP)
There are some whacky actions you could do with other characters to change the map or attack in group, and every one of those actions fell like a dumb joke, wich is good.
Aside from that theres also a lot of pedo bait for the loosers.

>>724749110
This is true.

>>724750351
Thanks for the heads up m8
I'll keep it on my wishlist and maybe get it some time in the future then.

>>724750271
Recently started a D4 playthrough and I've always wanted to use one of these cowtit magic knight girls but never do. This time I will.

Also how are you guys feeling about that new game they announced that is basically a Disgaea musou?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OeiijXYpkrM

I'M GOING TO DO IT
I'M GOING TO BUY AND PLAY THEIR GAME

>>724750590
You're not allowed to enjoy the 3D games.

>>724750681
Am I missing out on much if I didn't finish Hundred Knight 2? I absolutely loved HK1, 100%ed both the original and PS4 release. But I tried HK2 multiple times and kept falling off it.

>>724748501
I'm usually a rebooblican but I go demoflat for Etna, valkyries, and shamans

>>724750787
I don't know but I've only ever heard bad things about it. Like it isn't made by the director of the other witch games.

>>724747813
You should try 5 or 4. Many say 5 is the best in the series. The story looks like it sucks tho

>>724750871
Valkyrie and Gunslinger are my genericwives

Alright the posts ITT have convinced me to give this series another try. Am I buying the PC or Switch versions? Fully intend to at least play through the stories of 1, 2, 4 and 5.

Also what games have girl laharl in them

>>724751092
Personally I'd say switch because if you really get into them these are triple digit hour grindan games. So its nice to lay back with the switch.

>>724750489
I like seeing them try new stuff with disgaea but I'm more concerned with the 3D games catching up in quality to the 2D ones before they start experimenting with other stuff. I'm also not much of a musou guy admittedly but i don't dislike them.

>>724749647
There's a time and a place to have simple and complex attacks

>>724751092
I put in like 100 hours in 5C without even realizing on switch so like other anon said just relaxing and playing is very comfy. Hell I'd like to play it again when i have enough time.

>>724751092
Laharl is the MC of the first game although he appears in other games as a girl sometimes for whatever reason. The first game is a bit barebones gameplay-wise since it's the first in the series, many drop the series because of that, so I'd advise you to play the second first, then 5 and if you enjoy it, the first game.

>>724751335
It's a plot point in disgaea 2 where he's turned into what he hates most. A woman with big boobs. Obviously super popular as a character it then is a mainstay.

>>724751445
disgaea d2*

>>724748501
The older I get, the more demoflat I become. It's kinda creepy.

>>724751545
those are the fatherly instincts kicking in

>>724751654
Is that Desco?

>>724751951
I didn't play the gacha so I don't know the context I just like the alternate costumes

>>724751634
But it also extends to hags

>>724751068
I would like Valkyries if they didn't have the weird, Scooby-doo flesh colored sclera thing going on...

>>724752430
it's moe

This was a bizarre and fun thread

>>724753417
...was?

What about 2 pc

>>724753545
I personally don't know but for $4 I just bought it to try it out.

>>724753545
Yes?
What about it?

>>724753787
I think he is asking is it enjoyable and worth the $4 bucks

>>724753545
It has all the DLC, Axel mode, etc. Basically a "Complete" edition except without the HD art.

>>724753545
They never released a game called Disgaea 2, anon.

>>724744963
For the 1000th time, the gacha artist is not harada, like the other anon said, it's a copycat. You can tell it's not him because this artist actually gives his characters noticeable hips and ass (>>724745173) while every Harada drawn girl is a stick top to bottom since around Disgaea 4.
The only art Harada contributes to DRPG are the Plenair alts.

>>724747692
she's actually still a virgin

>>724756153
>every harada design is a stick
How do you explain characters like Felyne, Succubus, Seraphina, Melodia, Higan, Explosion Angel I can't remember the name of, etc?

>>724753545
2 is overall my favorite game
PC is the best version of it to play

>>724756153
If it's not Harada then how come the Danbooru tags say it is?
heh checkmate atheist

>>724753545
why do you need 2 PCs?

>>724757565
LE MONTY

>>724757595
so I can play vidya on one and shitpost on 4chan on the other without having to alt-tab.

>>724757732
Hackerman

>>724757732
Anon is too powerful...

disgaea was one of the reasons i turned into a lolicon bastard

>>724757682
!!!

>>724758547
Is she a lewd maid in the game? Or just fan art having fun.

>>724758689
She's more cute than lewd.

Not like nekos or succubi

>>724757035
>Felyne, Succubus,
Not designed by Harada. Harada redesigned the succubus in D3 and made her much skinnier.
>everyone else
Harada has always drawn titcowns but even then Harada's women are all extremely skinny on their entire body, almost Oda tier if they have boobs, while the DRPG artist goes out of his way to add curves and overall much more thickness on characters that never ever had them.
Compare >>724747938 to >>724740945 and see how much wider the DRPG Usalia's hips are vs Harada, or how absurdly skinny the legs are on Seraphina here >>724734427 but Piriko here >>724741121 is plenty supple in the lower body.
There's other smaller things, like how the imitation artist has outlines on near everything while Harada is content having his stuff look much more painted and rough, Harada has better color contrast in his work and is skilled at using a lot of white, etc, but I don't expect the average person to pick up on that kind of thing. Still, I do feel like it should be obvious DRPG is not Harada just putting any piece of DRPG alt design artwork next to the original.
>>724757384
Because Danbooru is incorrect, the imitation artist hasn't been named anywhere I don't believe, or he has been named and no one can read JP to correct it.
And yes, it's very annoying to go see the Harada tag flooded with DRPG stuff.

When will they add d2 on steam it’s been stuck on ps3 forever i want to play as fem Laharl

>>724759121
Fem Laharl is in 6 and 7 so there is no reason for D2 to exist.

>>724759158
I never played the new ones I only played up to 5

>>724759158
pure flonne.

>>724759106
>the DRPG artist goes out of his way to add curves and overall much more thickness on characters that never ever had them
Bros... I think I like the fake Harada more than the original...

>>724759386
Revenge Mode form in D5.

>>724759450
Is 5 the one that had everyone, even the generics, get a limit break type move?

>>724735965
The PC version basically is the PSP version. Just spruced up and less bugs, same for Disgaea 2.

>>724736356
Don't know why that anon keeps shilling that shitty version in every thread. Its like a super gimped version of D1. Less party size, no vocal music, fucking tiny as shit resolution. Only thing they added was a shitty map that was never really been needed for the series and some useless commentary.

>>724759537
Yeah, most unique characters had their own and you could transfer a generic one to generic classes. Some of them were pretty cool, you could go True Zenon Rozalin for 3 turns, Tyrant Valvatorez, ect.

>>724741178
>>Disgaea 3 Absence of Detention
Just say Vita

>Disgaea 5 everywhere but on PC since they removed the online stuff
What fucking retarded troll told you this?

>>724741178
>>stop there
Skip 6 sure, but 7 is great.

>>724743612
Fuck luggage lad.

I fucking love the girl character designs in 6, is it really THAT bad?

>>724759879
Don't tell anyone I said this but 6 actually has a very enjoyable story and characters, but it's reviled because muh 3D bad and autobattle. The gameplay does suck but I'd put it in the upper half of the Disgaea plotlines.

>>724759879
the main things to dislike about 6 are more gameplay-related such as no valkyries, the characters and designs are still at least decent enough.

>>724759759
>7 is great
maybe... but.
>you want pleinair, the mascot character that was in like every game before, playable for ""free""? well, buy the 120 bucks version
>btw, we don't even give you the updates that the japanese version gets
>buy the "complete version" to get everything

>>724759948
GOD she just ticks all the right boxes...

>>724759929
>>724760047
Fuck it, for 15 bucks I might as well.

>>724759879
>is it really THAT bad?
Nah. The main plot involving the villain is by far the worst ever in the franchise, worse than that guy from 4 even. The game balance is pretty wonky and it feels like it's missing a lot of things, also the boss of every chapter is the exact same every time but with higher stats for reasons I hope someone was fired over. However the characters, music and antics are all as lovable as ever.

>>724760050
>>buy the "complete version" to get everything
That's always been the case with the series. You people are literally .cucking yourselves buying these games on release.

>>724760223
>However the characters, music and antics are all as lovable as ever.
That works for me.

>>724760223
wasn't the controversy around this because of the auto battle?
i also think some people didn't like that it went to "infinite and beyond" with the leveling system.
that's why these things were changed in 7

Etna wants to be what she can't be.

A sex demon.

But she cant without tits.

But pulls it off anyway.

>>724760370
>3D
>tons of cut classes
>autobattle
>bloated numbers (you hit lv.1000 in like 40 minutes)
It was just a big step down from D5 in terms of gameplay/content and the whole game felt rushed and lacking because of the jump to 3D, they basically fixed every issue people had with 6 in D7 though.

>>724760280
i mean, sure, but this one was just brutal.
and i was looking forward to this...

>>724760370
>wasn't the controversy around this because of the auto battle?
Part of it, but mostly it was a combination of things and new bad. Which is why people don't care about auto missions in D7 or why people always used to say they'd watch shows while grindan item worlds.

>i also think some people didn't like that it went to "infinite and beyond" with the leveling system.
Some people said this, but I don't understand their argument. There's no functional difference from my perspective, it's just a matter of subjective taste.

>>724759106
can confirm, nothing in Japanese credits the artist, whoever he is

>>724761054
What if the artist... IS Harada?
Pretending to be someone else to try out different things.

>>724760524
Isn't like there's anyone that'd take her up on the offer in universe.

>>724759106
>>724761054
I can't be fucked to fact check this, but I heard once it's the same artist as Witch and the Hundred Knight 2. Gelbooru credits a Hanashiro Madoka for the official WatHK2 art.
https://gelbooru.com/index.php?page=post&s=list&tags=hanashiro_madoka

>>724759398
I'm a big fan of AI Harada.

Usalia full nelson DP
Discuss

>>724762016
Will Majorita be forced to watch?

>>724762268
Marjorita is the one doing it.

I HATE Majorita

>>724761361
This. A very underappreciated facet of Etna's character is that she's all talk. She loves to act like she's this super hot shot beauty queen but absolutely no one ever acknowledges it. The closest she's had to anyone showing the slightest attraction to her is Aramis. Fucking Aramis! Most of you who've even played the game barely even remember who Aramis is. And he likes her not because she's hot, but because she was nice to him. Oh and he's a small child, he looks like he's barely eight or nine (relatively speaking)

>>724762735
But... but... Sexy Beam...

>>724761430
kys

>>724762735
I will always remember Aramis because his chapter was a bit of a pacing killer in D1. But also because I will never forget Donkey Wiener.

>>724763342
horse wiener

>>724759879
IDK but I heard it doesn't have Felyn so I'm not touching it until that's corrected

Is disgaea 3 worth playing

>>724743863
I forgot about luggage lad

>>724764235
Its alright but only the vita port.

I want to grind with Usalia
If you know what I mean

>>724765578
make sure you max out statisticians first

Do not the cat.

>>724766425
I will the cat. No one can stop me except for her.

>>724766425
Someone did the cat and it only made things better

>>724766425
I'm still relatively new and unsure if it's felynn or nekomata

>>724766737
it's cat

>>724766626
MASHARU AHTSU-NYA

>>724766626
>>724766797
>only vitachads get to have her
Its not fair

>>724766425
you gotta squish. that. cat. squish that cat.

>>724766737
Felynn is the race/class. Nekomata is the first tier of their race/class. You can use them interchangeably and people will know what you mean.

>>724766827
You can get her 4 at least via DLC or post game, can't remember which.

>>724766827
>>724766908
Yes, you can get her in 4 too.
I don't remember how exactly either but I do know it's not post-game.

>>724766868
I'm partial to using Bastet

>>724762735
Because we all know that Etna is made for the player for daily impregnating mating press, and Japs go gaga when their girls are canonically paired

>>724767183
What is Netherworld society's view on anal sex?

>>724767305
D3 seems to go with opposite day morals. So anal is preferred by demons.

What is your honest opinion about Emizel?

>>724767641
He would make a really cute girl, like a superior Fuka.

Why was 3 so bad? Mao was so insufferable.

>>724751545
That's natural
Boobs are a young man's obsession.

>>724768064
Are they?

>>724733506
>He actually grinds
>He thinks someone like him who throws pedo word around so casually would shield him from being seen as pedo himself

>Demoflat
>Rebooblican
Is this real and thus your usual shitty muhrican translation or is it just a meme?

How many of the games have Etna as a main character?

>>724768843
None of them.

>>724768843
>>724768901
Disgaea DS has Etna Mode.

She doesn't need to be the "protagonist" to steal the spotlight every time anyway.

I last played 2 back around release on the PS2, and having picked up the PC version in Japanese recently after doing the same for the first game, it's a little funny how all the DLC characters swarm your roster from the start. I'm not sure if I even want to use any of them though, or if I'll just stick to the "real" cast.

Are the memory leaks and crashes for 5 on PC as bad as steam reviews make it seem?
I have 5 complete on the switch already, maybe I should just play it there.

>>724769660
Yeah, they are all a bit too much desu
I only used Eclair because she's hot as fuck.

>>724759879
>TWO cute girls with big tits in the main cast
>subpar gameplay when all they had to do was copy 5
truly a monkey paw moment

>>724759879
It's barebone which is a problem when your mechanics are so overwhelming. I felt like starting the game in the middle of a chapter4. Nothing feels well introduced

>>724769825
That's a terrible and stupid outfit, but I'm immediately convinced she's best girl just by the pose and expression.

>>724769805
you need to use task manager and tell it off from using all the CPU cores.
this can be done by finding the processes for disgaea5 under Task manager's details, right click and set affinity to take away it's access to some of your CPU cores.
My system has 24 cores and I take away 0,23,22 and 21.
Hasn't locked up the system since doing that (on every start of the game).
when it does slow down in a way that used to lock up the full system I can see it spikes the CPU usage for a brief moment. but since it doesn't have access to all resources, the OS and game recover.
if there is a different, RAM and not CPU, issue I haven't encountered it.

suprisingly long lived thread considering how it started....
Also Disgaea 8 better have great collabs.

>>724769805
I played it through recently and didn't experience any crashes. And pretty sure at least some of the sessions were 6+ hours so if there were memory leaks I should have run into them.

>>724770823
>>724770868
Thanks anons, maybe I'll get 5 on PC and do another playthrough.

>>724768420
personally, I'm an athighritarian

>>724770714
>thong leotard
>terrible and stupid
You and I are now enemies.

>>724771103
What political leaning is "Cover the world in swamps".
Eco-swampism?
Swamp-terrorism?
just The Green Party?

>>724759121
diablo 2 will never be on steam

Should I replay 4 or 5 first?

>>724773564
when's the last time you ate fish?

SARDINES dood

still waiting for my Kart game NIS

>>724769797
why would demons celebrate Santa? if god exist in their world doesn't that mean that somewhere a Real Santa overlord exists too?

>>724744424
because of fit

>>724776562
satan claus

>>724744424
My guess it the mod that drinks it still is in power.

How does she do it? Etna is packing NOTHING,but is the most erotic of everyone.

>>724741178
Nah 7 is awesome. Play that too.

>>724759879
i enjoy quite a lot
nowhere near bad as anons say it

>>724759879
6 is overhated, but the reasons it got backlash are understandable. The series' whole appeal is specifically the sheer breadth of options you have of building a unique unit, and prior to 6, this is something to series constantly expanded on, making it broader with each game.

The move to 3D necessitated multiple cutbacks on freedom with unit creation. The new models meant they weren't just reusing sprites again so they had cut back on they limited each class to one gender instead of having a male and female variant with mild gameplay differences for each class. You could no longer transfer skills on reincarnation across classes, because attack animations weren't able to work with every class and unit anymore etc.

As a result, it was the first time the series actively gave you LESS options in unit building, and since variety in unit building options is its core appeal, it understandably disappointed people. Despite that it still has the core of what makes the games fun and the main story and cast are fun if you're the type of person who plays Disgaea for those specifically too.

7 ended up addressing a lot of these issues which is why its reception is relatively warmer than 6s. However most of what it did still amounts to just bringing back stuff that 6 didn't do, which is why 5 is considered the peak gameplay for the series.

>just want to make lots of characters, level them up and equip them
>try new ones, do the same
is the last disgaea good for this?

>>724776938
>attitude
>has nothing to show off therefore nothing to hide and can get away with wearing almost nothing

>>724761430
What's the prompt anon?

>>724779504
Yes

>>724778097
>>724777263
Incredible how 7 complete still isn't on PC and I assume this is NISA's fault somehow.

>>724779908
It is
It's been over a year since JP players got the patch, there is no excuse for it to take this long to translate when it is a fairly small in terms of new text
Apparently they signed an exclusivity deal with Nintendo to be a launch title on the Switch 2, so switch and specially PC players get fucked
It's so retarded, in fact, that they broke the PVP on the Switch 1 version because it shares the same servers and is not compatible with Complete version

>>724779908
You would actually be correct.

Disgaea 7 Complete was released for PS4, PS5 and Switch in Japan last year. It released this year in the west as a Switch 2 exclusive. NISA/NIS somehow decided the best option would be to force people to get it on Switch 2 if they wanted it.

That said D7C is literally just D7 + all DLCs, no extras beyond that, so technically all that content IS available on other consoles and PC. Just not in one pack.

>>724780119
Not true anon
The patch JP players got, and that is included in D7C, has one more Baal fight, Asagi, and revamps item reincarnation to make it actually enjoyable

Don't care about the cunny give me the shota demons

>>724781160
Well you have Laharl and...
Thunderlord Laharl?

>>724781160
>shota demons
sorry but they're exclusively for big breasted demons

>>724781310
you forgot the best

>>724781521
does he lactate

>>724781521
bandaids means they are willingly to engage in risky activities and are not afraid to get hurt

>>724780119
>That said D7C is literally just D7 + all DLCs, no extras beyond that, s
new scenario, asagi, etc

>>724781521
I can understand Emiziel, Suisen and perhaps even Zed...
But Taro? Really?

>>724781856
you will never be a mother.

Any tips for enjoying these games? I like nisa games in general, anime etc. But these games are so fucking complicated between the innocents, the block puzzles etc.
I miss soul nomad and zhp

>>724781964
You don't have to dive especially deep into the mechanics if you just want to clear the main story.

>>724781584
shota oppai art soon of em

>>724781964
I have beaten half of the series and I still have no idea what the fuck innocents are.

>sequel to phantom brave is out
>it's 3D chibis
Them abandoning 2D sprites will never not make me mad as fuck.

>>724782493
Its a good game though.

>>724782548
Ash and Marona hook up? They only teased it in the original game.

>>724781964
If you are doing the main story to credits, you don't need to and actively should not engage with every mechanic. Engage with the mechanics that are fun to you. Do you have a unit you like and did you see an Evility that you think would have synergy with that? Then do that. Want to push your characters item level a bit to buff up the raw damage? Go for it. The charm of Disgaea is that you can make units your own and run whatever you want.

You only need to care about things like Innocents and making use of every mechanic when you enter the post-game where the goal is to become comically OP by putting everything together.

Im about to sacrifice seed for my goddess Etna!

>>724782591
no.

>>724782789
Imagine how much stronger that attack would be if she had breasts to store more energy.

>>724733303 (OP)
Etna sex thread

I need etna to jumbofy herself into a giantess and sit on me like she sits on her prinnies

>>724783025
your goddess is a demon

>>724783053
>spoilers
Well that's a hard pass then.

>>724783458
she's a loud mouthed perma virgin, she will never EVER put it out.

>>724770864
Thanks for reminding me, I should use a Necromancer and my current D4 playthough. Never used one before, which is such a shame because her design is so good. Kuroboshi is amazing.

>>724767641
He is the only one that feels like he changes due to character growth. Everyone else more or less behaves the same from beginning to end whereas he starts a a brat but becomes capable of standing on his own two feet in the end.

>>724781160
I want both

>disgaea 7 is in mostly negative recent reviews
why?

>>724784838
This >>724780012

>>724784838
probably because how they handled this game's content/updates and now just release the complete version with everything in it.
i mean, the people who bought this in the west didn't even get the patch from japan

>>724784969
>>724785045
what's in that jap patch?

>>724785097
asagi

>>724785097
New difficulty, Asagi, and a few other little things.

>>724785097
from what i heard, you could get asagi from it.

>>724785045
not really, most of what you complain about wasn't part of the game at release. You are release impression and a year late port.

>>724785097
Not sure on all the details, but basically Asagi, one additional Baal fight, revamped item reincarnation, boosted some evilities and added some QoL like faster pulls on the hospital gacha

>>724785097
Item growth has been reworked, now making 1 LP = 1% kept. This allows up to 90% kept each gen with Mao (78% without), making items have a hair short of 10x stats when maxed (42 or 45 143 consecutive perfect reincarnations, slows dramatically after 68 or so). Previously, this was around 2.3x
Item Kill Bonus is now 1000 (from 400).
Items can now choose to stay the same item or go up to four generations backward, on top of the Origin option. There's also a new option to force gold traits rolls for the next gen (and it works with the reroll).
Create-a-Treasure: Any unit can choose from any Hell Mode on your team (effect and gain type are linked), attach it to any weapon type they want, and then choose a model for it. So if you wanted Fuji to have Higan's Hell Mode on an Axe, you can!
Aptitudes now cap at 500 base, with an unknown way to hit 999. Requires over 250 reincarnations per unit.
Base cap 50M, Extract Cap 50M, Seal Cap 90M, new HP/SP caps for each are 3B (you'll never reach Base HP cap, though).
Overall unit stat cap is now 10x what it was before.
EX Baal maps added. Good luck.
+1 Unique Evility Slot, +6 Generic Evility slots. Likely tied to EX Baal fights.
Enemies in Item Worlds now have a cheat shop toggle to break old stat caps.
New Netherworld Tournament enemies.
Gacha increased to 999 pulls, kinda chugs slightly on Switch.
Wickedhancement count increased to 999
More PvP maps/topics added to the rotation.
Numerous QoL changes, example include units already having an evility greyed out in selection, and item IP spending now removing options when maxed allowing for spam. Some UI has been reworked or added for this.
0-HP bug fixed, Shogi Equip bug fixed, Lonely allowing Lifting bug fixed. Other bugs fixed in WW were also finally brought to the JP version.

>>724785446
kek
and there are people who bought the 120 dollar version

>>724785446
>Requires over 250 reincarnations per unit.
jesus fucking christ

Outside of the mid story and art direction, D7 also hugely suffers from its terrible soundtrack. No Tenpei Sato = utterly soulless. Like this is the hub theme https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfl-Tnb9oTQ are you fookin shitting me.
For as much as people shit on D6, its art and music were far, far better than D7.

>>724785953
To be fair you can just make a macro to hit level 9999 with the juice bar and reincarnate in a few seconds

>>724786097
Oh, so it's not the Disgaea 1 version of going into a map 10 times in a row, getting to 9999, and then passing a bill to reincarnate

Bump

>>724787502
I want to bump into a succubus's boobs.

>>724789213
imagine being the overlord and reincarnating everybody into bimbos

>>724789213
I read that with her English voice.

>>724789213
That poor succubus is going to have it rough being a slave and losing her nice body.

>>724787502
Etna doesn't have those

What are some other good NiS SRPGs that aren't Disgaea?

>>724791443
Soul Nomad
Makai Kingdom
Phantom Brave

>>724791498
Thanks!

>>724791948
To elaborate
Soul Nomad is a tile-based SRPG similar to Ogre Battle, you build squads and each unit in it has different attacks depending on the position

Makai Kingdom is basically Disgaea but not tile-based, instead movement has a circular range and attacks have area hitboxes. Also unique in how all your units are generics, but you can unlock the unique story characters by beating them in postgame

Phantom Brave is similar to Makai Kingdom, but you need to summon your units in battle by confining on stage items, they stay for a limited amount of time, and unit turns are speed-based instead of being player -> enemy -> player like the other games.

Uuuuuhhhhhh

>>724789213
>I will sit on you for the next 5 hundred years and god is my ass sweaty

>>724792995
SEND THEM BACK

>>724793943
send them back
send them back
give them one big mac
and syrup ipecac

>>724794425
Is this a Lil' Abner reference?

>>724794345
Puffier!

sicily sex
sicex

>>724779751
here's two others, I think you just prompt his name basically.
https://files.catbox.moe/pjvagy.jpg
https://files.catbox.moe/f4k2xd.jpg

left or right?

>>724794862
both at the same time

>>724794862
Personally i prefer Angel Flonne but Fallen Angel is good to.

I started to play 3 last night. Mao is really annoying. I like Beryl though she is a cute delinquent.

>>724795515
Sub Mao is a lot less... that than dub Mao. I don't even hate dubs but I would play 3 subbed anyway to spare myself from the Vato bros. Get used to them by the way. At least once a chapter. That theme is like a spike in my brain now

>>724795515
Mao is honestly the only time a Disgaea characters gimmick has pissed me off, but I think its because he's an already hard to like type of character (loner nerd that insists he doesn't need friends) combined with D3s really heavy use of "bad is good" opposites, just makes him extra abrasive. His character arc is good, but god, early he's such a cunt.

On that note, you know I'll never get tired of? Valvatorez. What a fucking gigachad

>>724794345
Usalia's head on Flonne's body

>>724794345
Sexy Usalia.

I picked up Disgaea 2 and I'm enjoying it (first Disgaea game) but I'm at 2-4 right now (Sealed Room) and I want to grind up some of my party members that are still level 1.
-How do I get them better equipment outside of the shop? Just grind earlier maps?
-Do I also just grind earlier maps for levels?
-How do I get them XP without them dying? Is there a good way for the high level members of my party to carry my low level ones? Is that what lift is for?

>People saying 5 is the best for gameplay
>They don't bring up the Chara World Aptitude grind

4 is the best, and you know it.
It has the best story hands down. 5 has a story as dogshit as 6.

>>724797215
4 had the stupidest grind for LoC the fuck are you on about?

>>724797606
A single character doing constant chara-world runs on overlord in 5 takes about 80 runs to max aptitudes if you're being efficient about it.
That's over 7 fucking hours for ONE character.
4's grind is cute compared to that bullshit.

>>724797215
1 has best story.

>>724797107
Team attacks. Any unit participating in it will get exp, regardless whether or not it did damage.
I'd recommend against early grinding until you get felonies, better gear and better maps. Gear shop is fine enough until you max it out. Afterwards you will get better/best gear from stealing.

>>724797107
Lift is for a lot of things, mostly the item world and geo puzzles. You can stack up units on top of one another and attack, giving experience to all units in the tower. Another way to level units is to just deploy them on maps and soak exp with the exp or cast buffs. Team Attacks also share exp.
>>724797730
You're really bad at Disgaea 5. Are you trying to max stats or just make numbers pretty?

>>724797867
Excuse me, I wasn't aware I was replying to a literal underaged retard.

>>724797638
if they fucked would it result in a genetic clone

>>724740764
I think it's because NIS keeps them on a tight leash when it comes to disgaea

>>724797730
First that you don't need to max aptitudes on anyone
Second, it takes maybe 40-50 runs to max aptitudes in D5 since you should be getting 3-5% per run
Third, aptitude grind on D4 also sucks a lot, it's easily 50~ runs of chara world too for how rare the aptitude event is

>>724798004
You literally do not need to max every aptitude for every character. You are not using every stat on every character nor will you need max aptitudes to stat max anyway with absorption and other tools. The cap for stats is lower than the maximum you could theoretically attain. You have wiggle room.

>>724797730
Isn't limit in D5 10m base stats and 10m from gear? You don't need aptitues maxed for latter.

>>724798197
No, D5 caps at 10M base stats, 10M from extracts, and equipment you can get between 30M-50M depending on how autistic you want to be
You are right that aptitude grind is unnecessary besides just grinding because you want prettier number

>>724789371
>imagine being the overlord and reincarnating everybody into lolibabas
yeah
imagine

>>724798353
That's a lot of waiting. The age resets on reincarnation, after all it's reincarnating.

>>724797638
Wonder how hare it is for a demon to conceive.
...have we ever seen a pregnant demon?

>>724797638
I only played Disgaea 1, what's the context of fem Laharl?

>>724759879
Play it just for the plot grinding the least and it's decent.
Try to play it like any Disgaea and suffer because it has too many things wrong by design for the post game.
Making a grindan game about auto-battle is silly.

>>724799017
Inferior version of Laharl from a one-chapter joke in a spin-off that fucks up canon and makes no sense. There is a reason they did a direct sequel once and never again.

Do I play with English or Japanese voices?

>>724799223
>inferior version
The Dark Assembly disagrees

>>724799359
jap

>>724799359
What game are you playing and how old are you? If you grew up with Mighty Morphing Power Rangers and are playing Disgaea 1 or D2, English because Rita Repulsa wins.

>>724785178
Literally unforgivable and I'm not kidding

>>724735947
Depends. 99% of the time they get mad because they don't believe you. For them boobs = muscles + height in men. Then there the supreme pettankos that never ever had any hope they would have tits since they were girls and didnt even play that game.

>>724737034
That's not an unpopular opinion. The chemistry ands gags between the characters hard carries Disgaea, the artstyle too. It's not the game play. Because sure, you could play Final fantasy Tactics but it won't have an Ex Overlord Vampire turned into a parole officer, obsessed with sardines, with a Werewolf bro that has a massive bromance crush on him and an Eldritch horror lolidaughterfu whose dream is to became a final boss in a videogame.
Laharl, Flonne and Etna are comedy gold.
Valvatorez and his posse.
Adell Rozalin, Tink and the rest.
Mao was meh. Raspberyl carried him.
The rest was very lackluster with a few cool ones here and there like Usalia.
Disgaea is a great deconstruction of Anime culture in general and Shonen in particular. 3 is a deconstruction of Student Council shenanigans but still.
I love them.
Also play the new Katamari game. It's basically Katamari 1 and 2 with power ups. It's good

Here's another post to bump the thread.

>>724799532
1 and I’m a zoomie. I have no idea who you’re talking about. I guess I’ll go jap

Speaking of languages, I don't really plan to play an English translation of a Japanese game again if I can help it, but I will say that "dood" will nevertheless always be the iconic Prinny tic in my heart as opposed to the generic ッス.

>>724802145
Imagine how much shit like that is planted deep in our minds from years of translators making a bad call

>>724761430
basedbasedbasedbased

>>724802504
That looks terrible though. Nothing about this says Harada

>>724802145
I love how in the early games Etna actually had a body definition and small cupcake boobs, instead of being two lines for the sides of the torso and that's it. The original Disgaea is still the best in so many ways, and all the sequels just fucked it up more and more (they only changed the gameplay to be easier and more grind focused; D1 wasn't even grind focused, it was just optionally possible - you could finish the game easily at level ~100 and even most postgame content at level ~1000).

What do you guys think Etna smells like?

>>724802801
a faint perfume that gets overtaken by her sweaty exposed armpits as she fights

>>724802801
prinnies

>>724798881
I was disappointed with Pram.
I thought she was one of the strongest overlords in MK, but then the PSP game came out, and we find out she is canonically weaker than half of the cast.
Loser fake oracle, who actually has boobs.

>>724803014
She is disappointed in you.

>>724802264
From what I remember Disgaea translations were pretty good overall at least, especially compared to some other ones of the era like Ar Tonelico which I've also been playing in JP and which is a way better experience that way. They'd probably make the "purist" crew upset nowadays though since they ran relatively freely with things like Thursday, but that's a dificult crew to ever please anyway.

>>724803014
She's the fastest growing. She beat King Drake's ass when she was 3 years old. IIRC she's younger than even Salome and Seedle, who were humans. Brute force unga power and "I read the script and know how to deal with your bullshit" are different types of power and one is a lot harder to deal with than the other.

official cannon tierlist (undisputable)

>>724802264
I wouldn't really call "dood" a bad call. The intention with their verbal tick in Japanese is that its meant to be an informal, delinquent-esque way of saying "desu", which means they're all taking like they are or were delinquents (which makes sense, since they're the souls of criminals).

You can't exactly localize that directly, there is no english equivalent to "desu". So the question is how does a delinquent or otherwise non-responsible person speak? Putting "dude" in every sentence like a stoner is a relatively decent way of representing that. There's probably some other options but "dude" is universally applicable and if it's every sentence, that's what you need.

The spelling is a matter of flavour and I think sells the informality too, so it works.

>>724803409
Nekomata's tits look so good and over-perky in that new game, hope we get to see some of the human classes. Imagine Mage Knight.

>>724803148
She had a quicker change of heart then Larharl, after seeing a single act of love.
Deep down inside, she is actually a good girl who wants love too.

>>724754238
>Very resistant to Elements
Too bad they didn't bother to fix the translation. Original text makes it plainly obvious that her ability is increased elemental damage.
>精霊の加湿により属性攻撃に威力がUPする。

>>724803154
I really like how Thursday's voice was rendered in English, the added filters and SFX added a lot compared to the original's dry read.

>>724804557
NISA fucks up ability descriptions quite often for whatever reason.