Thread 725303417

I like this game because it unironically take the position that the Emperor is the highest power in the 40k universe

i also think the reddit fans of 40k, whether they be old fans or new, are wrong about the appeal of grimdark being that humans are the evil aliens-like race of conquerors and despots. 40k is cool because humanity is the best faction. Despite its faults humans are still the good guys because thats just how evil the setting is and desperate measures must be taken.

Rogue Trader taught me that all Xenos are scum. They're the least trustworthy companions in the game, outside of the chaos space marine.

>>725304130
You can have CSM as a companion, wtf is this game?

>>725304434
you can embrace chaos and even corrupt a c'tan shard

>>725303417 (OP)
>hire devs that live in the real life imperium
>they make a good wh40k game
shocking

>>725304130
Somehow Heinrix was a good inquisition companion too

>>725304746
do not tempt me to turn this into an Orthodox /v/ thread

>>725303417 (OP)
IN THY LIGHT I STAND AND THY LIGHT I CRAVE!

>>725305043
I WILL BATHE THIS BATTLEFIELD IN RIGHTEOUS FURY!

IMPURE XENOS
I WILL DROWN YOU IN YOUR OWN SCREAMS

When is the game done with all the dlcs so I can finally play it?

>>725305929
somewhere around Q3 2026

>>725303735
>40k is cool because humanity is the best faction. Despite its faults humans are still the good guys because thats just how evil the setting is and desperate measures must be taken.
You're saying this as the uppermost most unfathomably beyond reach section of the population who can only be bossed around by Inquisitor Lords with leverage because of esoteric liberal interpretations of contracts written 10,000 years ago, making you wholly immune to 99% of the problems plaguing the Imperium.

>>725305929
theres a second season pass and we know nothing about those dlc's yet so it won't be soon

I'm looking forward to Dark Heresy.

>>725303735
Both are true. 40k is cool because humanity is like the Combine from Half-Life or the aliens from Independence Day, AND 40k is cool because, despite that, humanity is still ultimately the good guy because their enemies are just that fucking evil

>>725306468
Your options:
>get soul raped by demons
>get genocided by aliens
>live under tyranny
What do you choose?

>>725306893
Go to Tau space and get an assigned wife.

>>725306618
>have warp-travel capable spaceships
>still use guns that look like they were juryrigged with scraps
weird race

>>725303417 (OP)
Siege of Terra basically confirmed that
Emperor is Dark King, final Chaos God

>>725306468
I'm saying this because if you do the dogmatic path, literal miracles happen, proving the Emperor's power isn't just "ambiguous" or whatever the redditors say. So that means normal people are right to sacrifice and die with faith in this setting because obviously it is well founded, and if everyone did this there would be no heresy.

>>725307147
Bro you're following the teachings of a Chaos worshipper

>>725307080
The Empire embody those ideals pretty well. Destroying everything in its path.

>>725306950
>die of space aids due to incompatible physiology and foreign germs
actually incorrect, because before you die the inquisition WILL find you

>>725307080
I thought it was something something warp fuckery something both options of dark king and an order outcome are viable something something emperor's plan and shit

>>725307191
don't badmouth the anchorite

>>725307075
>have warp-travel capable spaceships
They don't there is a warp portal in the sector through which ships from Tau space can get there. Yeah it's a cringe plot convenience.

>>725307191
baseless slander and historical revisionism, the Emperor obviously protects, I've experienced it in game

>>725304953
here's better version

>>725306950
If every human defected to the Tau, then every human would fucking die, because their souls are still susceptible to Chaos, and without the Inquisition and Imperial Cult repressing it, we would all be easy pickings. The Tau can exist the way they do because Chaos doesn't care about them. Humanity is under different circumstances. Sure, individual humans can get lucky and have decent lives under the Tau, but it's not a valid alternative for the species as a whole

>>725303735
Orks, Craftworld Eldar and Tau are objectively less evil than humans in 40k.

>>725307291
The Inquisition will find me, a mere cog in the vast Imperial grinding mill. Doubt it! There are too many Imperial deserters in Tau space already.

>>725307484
fucking why?

>>725303735
>100 million slaves work and die over 100 years only for a noble to forget the shipment in some factory and lose track of it completely
>has [pic related] reaction
>life goes on and they do it again
>if you say this is bad you get blammed by a nun

humans are only """goood""" on an individual level, as a collective race were are not so great. In 40k this is magnified by 1000x

sisters of battle owe me sex

>>725307147
Not really. Your soul is still going to get chewed up by the warp no matter how much you prayed to some fedora tipping retard trapped on a giant toilet.

>>725307557
coomers and gooners

>>725307685
Isn't Seraphim Rose suspected of heresy in certain RO circles?

>>725307528
>niggers, jews, and, communists are less evil than white people
Ok then why are they literally the cause of all the world's woes?

>>725307528
>orks less evil than humans
and you call this bait?

>>725307619
And that's a good thing. Honestly makes me miss the Sensei/Starchild lore.

>>725307360
>the anchorite
The very existence of this character only shows show modern 40k writers have utmost contempt for the history of the setting. Naturally the author who made him is some priss from 2014.

>>725307748
Orks are beyond morality
they are pure and innocent

>>725307528
>CWE
>Tau
Arguably correct
>Orks
Bro lay off the memes

>>725307557
it's based

>>725307397
Kroot spheres have warp drives you stupid nigger

>>725307737
They're not. Orks and Eldar stopped Necron from wiping out all life in the galaxy.
>B-But Slaanesh! But muh eye of Terror!
Tiny compared to the cicarix maledictum that is entirely the fault of humans.

Calth was an act of self-defense

>>725307803
they indulge in turning humans into cattle for cage fights and nutriments when they don't just kill em

>>725307869
it was more like the ctan that caused them to slumber after losses
eldar are fucking dicks too and orks are surprisingly sadistic

>>725307803
I don't know if you're baiting or just fell for some Reddit propaganda, but Orks are basically Dark Eldar but funny. They are extremely sadistic, malicious, and genocidal. They want to kill every single thing that isn't them, including babies. There's multiple instances in the books where they violently torture POWs for days on end. Not for interrogation of course, just for entertainment. They are not le wholesome chungus football hooligans. They're even more evil than the Tyranids, and the Necrons, I would argue

>>725303417 (OP)
just picked this up for another play through and was quite surprised at the new GEAR thats in the game since when I first played it. I guess you can find power armour in a random box as early as chapter 3.

Argentia is more OP then ever with each hit hitting over 200 on a 10 shot gun. At least some things stayed the same. All the plasma gun stuff blesses pascal with multifuntunality beyond being a box opener so thats nice.

looking forward to the new game

>>725307519
Wrong. Tau have no presence in the warp and it took hundreds of years of using a Khorne artifact to ALMOST corrupt Farsight but he just locked in and shrugged it off. Tau can travel through the warp without gellerfields and not get corrupted or go insane and not a single one of them defected when a large scale Deathguard invasion hit.

>>725307619
>100 million slaves work and die over 100 years only for a noble to forget the shipment in some factory and lose track of it completely
>This noble is responsible for millions of shipments like this
>There are millions of nobles like that
>Without these deliveries humanity would simply go extinct
>Noble will be the first to lose his head if someone on Terra doesn't receive their shipments

Sisters are pretty cool in (moar liek on amirite? hahahaha) my book.

>>725307854
>coptic
genuinely fucking disgusting
hammer the whore to the fucking cross

>>725308129
Can't wait for more xenos romances catered to femoids where the men put out while the women are sexless prudes.

>>725308129
dark eldar and eldar are far more alien and ugly they don't look like this

>>725307862
Better check again where the expanse is and where the Tau are. No ship can jump to it and they would have to fly through the entire galaxy of Empire systems AND pass near Terra which is so outrageous it isn't even funny.

>>725307728
only heretics say he's a heretic.
And I don't mean that to play semantics. In Orthodoxy if you separate from the Church you are a heretic, it's that simple. The only people who propagate this are terminally online "genuine orthodox" or "true orthodox" who follow one single "bishop" who left the Church to dodge canonical penalty and punishment for sexual abuse. and they then have to proclaim that one single "bishop" is actually the true church. Laughable if it wasn't so tragic.
Orthodoxy encourages the spirit of peace, and those terminally online schismatics only spread paranoia and elitist purity spiraling. I hope that helps explain it, it's a very complicated subject that goes back a hundred years

>>725307748
For orks, it's not a matter of right or wrong, or good or evil.
It's just us or them.
It's like how Quark is technically the most moral person in Star Trek if you take ferengi morality into consideration.

>>725308283
Interesting

>>725303735
Imperium fags are the most obnoxious niggers on the planet. What a gay post, holy shit.

>>725308303
Shave the head and we'll talk.

>>725308283
I can appreciate in spite of the split, Catholic institutions acknowledge Orthodox saints and Orthodox institutions acknowledge Catholic saints

>>725308131
...How the fuck does that contradict anything I said, you retard? WHAT??

>>725307147
>literal miracles happen, proving the Emperor's power isn't just "ambiguous"
I don't know what redditors say but from what I know about the setting belief and thought, especially from humans, directly influence the Warp and can manifest in reality and the game directly reinforces this. The biggest miracle I can recall in the game is killing the huge demon controlling that one planet, and that's powered by tens of thousands directing their prayers at it with thousands dying in the process

>>725303735
traitors and heretics are xenos hating humans too

>>725308396
Blue hands typed this post.

>>725308439
Who is the badass in the hat

CWE are objectively the most 'moral' faction in the setting. Before the Great Crusade they even tried helping out some of the Humans scattered by the DAOT and in some cases went so far as to co-habitate with them. Even now Eldar still don't enjoy fighting Humans when it can be avoided. Even Biel Tan is open to negotiations so long as Maiden Worlds remain safe, and has actually sworn oaths of frienship with Human forces before.

>>725308275
Owlcat does this to sell their DLC, look in your heart you know it to be true

>>725308493
>Tau just don't get corrupted because chaos doesn't care
>Tau are basically immune to corruption
>"HURR DURR THAT'S THE SAME THING!"
Okay retard.

>>725308439
Man I love Ordo Hereticus

Reminder that Tau has a genestaler ethereal among them now, which they've failed to sniff out.

>>725308527
One of the 3rd edition witch hunter inquisitor models basically.

>>725308439
Actually indistinguishable from a chaos cult.

>>725308512
You can pray the gay out of Abel.

>>725308737
The real Tau are the genes we collected on the way.

>>725308769
Absolute based look. They remind me of the witch hunters from Warhammer Age of Reckoning.

>>725308737
Most tau can't find their own buttocks with two hands and a map.

>>725303417 (OP)
No SoB romance no buy

>>725308737
Anon there's Genestealers in Terra.
Hell there was even a Craftworld that got overtaken by them.
Those thing are almost literal roaches, can't keep them out.

>>725308452
The Orthodox Church acknowledges Orthodox Saints, that is, those in the West roughly before the Schism. Such as St Alfred the Great, King of England.
But Orthodox don't recognize people like francis of assisi or loyola. Orthodox would say they are in prelest. Weird stuff like wanting the physical wounds of Christ (stigmata), having a vision where someone claims to have drank the breastmilk of the Virgin Mary. This stuff is so... carnal. It is not like antying you find in the first 1000 years of the Holy Fathers. Orthodox Saints are basically the exact same spiritually and theologically as any first, second, or third century AD Saint.

>>725308545
This is more so why CWE shouldn't even be in the setting. They're entirely pointless. If we needed psychic seers to warn us about the future, humanity already has their own. It should only be Dark Eldar being turbo rapist ass pirates. Incubi are pretty much everything cool about Aspect Warrior.

>>725308896
>There's genestealers in Terra
Any books on this?

>>725308737
>>725308896
stupidy sexy genestealers

>>725308396
whatever dude (xir) you probably play Chaos and unironically morally align with it

>>725308908
nta, and I'm neither catholic nor orthodox but interested in both, but that seems sensible from an orthodox position. Especially if you look at Loyola's stigmata, very suspicious all in all.
Then again I'm not comfortable with Theosis either, so I lose either way.

>>725308852
Supposedly when they were designing the faction for that codex one of the top guys walked into the design studio and slapped down a copy of malleus maleficarum and told everyone to read it for inspiration.

>>725308963
"Shadow Throne" campaign book for 9th edition. Basically there was a genestealer cult operating under the imperial palace and the custodes had to clear em out.

>>725308557
>monk dip mention

>>725308276
>is official gamesworkshop cannon art in your path

40k is best when its 50% cannon and 50% fanon. People who want rigidity in 40k lore have no idea what makes the setting good.

>mother gullet
This is the author's thinly veiled fetish right?

>>725309161
Awesome

>>725309215
I guess that's fair, GW do make dumb decisions here and there every now and then, and then, and then

>>725309215
BACK IN MY DAY

>>725308956
The problem is that Eldar are never written intelligently to utilize their position and skills. Valedor is pretty much the only modern book that portrays them well, and that ironically made the main Eldar writer mad because he prefers them to look like idiots. Some other novels include them and even do them well (Ciaphas Cain even had one), but rarely as a focus.

>>725309312
fuck is that?

>>725309215
>40k is best when its 50% cannon and 50% fanon
This.
GW is decent enough at worldbuilding to make 40k an interesting setting. They are not, however, good at character writing, and the increased focus on named individuals exposes this weakness.
It's entirely better to take the background knowledge provided and make your own OCs within it.

>>725304746
proof that we need more miserable europeans making 40k games

>>725309416
One of these chomping a beakie.

>>725304746
They live in tax haven Cyprus now

>>725309460
you're saying they are good at macro writing but not micro writing so to speak correct?

>>725308303
tattoos are so disgusting

>>725308580
How does that disprove what I said about how humanity defecting to the Tau wouldn't work though? It doesn't? Okay, so you're just a retard wasting my time then, glad to know

>>725309563
Side note: even for the time all those "strengths" are a lie.

>>725308545
It's pretty clear that exodites were on Terra at some point, which is why we have elves & dragons in our mythology/dead religions. I can only assume the only reason they left was because Big E impregnated them all, including the men.

>>725309114
There's a lot of stuff that you can't just purely interact with intellectually. You have to experience it and it takes a long time to understand. Or if you interact with someone who actually does radiate peace it becomes easier to understand. Theosis is union with God, which is what Holy Communion is all about. I don't know what your specific hangup with it is, and I know my unworthy words won't help you given what I just said about not intellectualizing things, but I would encourage you to actually go in person and attend services instead of just interacting with ideas online. That goes for roman catholic and Orthodox. I never had to wrangle with roman catholicism because from my point of view it was a non-starter, but you really do need to actually be in person to experience things in Orthodoxy. We have this western concept that faith is just what we choose to believe and accept in our minds, which is not the case, it's more experiential and some things become obvious the more you are exposed and interact with it. Anyway I know this is a meandering comment too but God bless you don't give up your journey

>>725303417 (OP)
The only reason I'm not trying any 40k video games is vecause I don't want to read a 50 book series just to understand the subfactions of the setting.

On the topic of orthodoxy I am fascinated how people who religiously parrot the idea of separation of church and state find themselves captivated by the russian orthodox church that is the merger of church and the state's secret police.

>>725309328
Another huge problem is the issue of "Fun". Eldar lore takes itself way too seriously. Every other faction is full of nonstop hijinks. Part of enjoying a faction is being able to stop and take the piss out of themselves now and then and Eldar just don't have that.

>>725309642
Are you a fucking idiot? Obviously I'm specifically responding to the "Chaos doesnt care about Tau" part. Why do I need to spell this out to you?

>>725309749
I sure there is a codex or two that are enough

>>725309805
damn the dark eldar are a bit beefy compared to the others, unless it's just the armor

>>725309851
You are a low-functioning autist if you don't see how literally no one in the fucking world cares and how your pedantic correction is completely irrelevant to the discussion. At that point, you may as well be calling out a fucking grammatical error

>>725309745
Thank you very much, anon. It's nice of you to type it out, and it gives food for thought.

>>725309749
Rogue trader is good because you honestly need to know nothing about 40k to enjoy it. It subtly introduces you to concepts for future forays into the setting

>>725309953
shit never mind forget what i said

>>725305929

Not over yet, however the DLCs available are pretty good and game's mostly bug free... or at least it was when I was still playing (before 1.5 revamp)

>>725309953
Visually it is because most eldar armour is rounded whereas DE use sharp edges, which cuts a more defined and bulkier profile.

>>725309972
You made a retarded statement that was wrong. Do you think if you ignore or downplay it that's gonna make you look better?
Since you're not trying to actually contest and just sweep it under the rug now you're at least acknowledging that you were wrong and Tau don't just exist the way they do because "Chaos doesnt care about them".
That's all I wanted.

>>725310092
Dark eldar tend to fight a lot and inject themselves with shit, a lot of them even the homunculi are buff

>>725309801
Well what I can say is, Orthodoxy is not just Russia. It is Greece, Romania, Bulgaria, Serbia, Alexandria (Egypt), Antioch (Syria, Lebanon), Jerusalem, etc and all of those now have converts in their parishes throughout the world in North and South America, Europe, Asia, Australia, etc. who are not ethnically those original people, but converts. Alaos Orthodox wouldn't promote the idea of Church and state, but maintain that all things should be to the glory of God and God should be everywhere in our lives. As for the Russian Church it has problems but there are a lot of positives too, no one and nowhere is without problems, and problems have crept up in the Church at various places and times in history. But the Orthodox faith always prevails even if one Patriarch or one council becomes worldly or even heretical.
For example this is St Paisios from Mount Athos, Greece

>>725310167
It's not even incorrect though. Chaos doesn't care about them because their souls are too weak to detect. No amount of mental gymnastics will make that sentence incorrect, any attempts at "correcting" me will literally just be rewording and expanding upon what I already said. You're wrong on two different levels. Why does this fandom attract such lolcow retards?

>>725310208
The haemonculi models are chunkier yes but the wyches and kabalites are the same proportions as guardians and a good chunk of the aspects. Incubi are bulkier because of the 3+ save which in GW's design language for eldar factions is the cut off for being sleek (like how incubi back in the day could not use fleet of foot due to the heavier armour and nor could the 3+ aspects like warp spiders and reapers).

>>725309749
>read a 50 book series just to understand the subfactions of the setting
Good thing you don't have to, the HH books are barely relevant. just pirate a post 8th edition general rulebook and read the fluff inside

>>725309805
They're not as funny as orks or admech but most factions arent. Space marines, custodes, sisters are all pretty serious for example.

FUCK ORKS

>>725310587
>Leagues of Votann
Not fucking interested. Get this faction out of my sight. I spit on them.

>>725309953
I mean Incubi are pretty much just the best aspects of each Aspect Warrior path, the Striking Scorpions in particular, diluted into a single edge lord sect.

And they're funny because they're just the bodyguards absolutely sick of their own races shit and just want to murder things.

>>725310587
FUCK THE WORLD

>>725303735
The greatest argument against the Imperium are the complete and total faggots like this which support it.

A birthday present for me? Oh Vect, you shouldn't have~

Man GW is really going all in on Necrons currently. Glad Owlcat finished up with them in RT, honestly.
If we get a Leagues of Votann companion in DH I will burrow underground in pure rage.

how do they get oxygen in these absolutely fuckhuge ships? do they have giant oxygen tanks that get replaced?

>>725310774
>jobs to Captain Titus

>>725310331
Is that why there was a massive Death Guard invasion of Tau space? Because Chaos doesn't care? Keep doubling down. It's funny exposing you for a secondary retard who has only played a handful of 40k videogames and read a wikipage or two.

>>725310492
Dark Eldar are just as funny has Orks. Same goes for Necrons. The IG is a ludicrous institution due to it's scope.

>Space marines, custodes, sisters are all pretty serious for example.
Space Marines are supposed to be the straightmen who mostly cut through the shit and have to deal with the nonsense, which is itself comical that SPACE MARINES are the sensible ones in this universe. Eldar aren't cool enough to play that role.

>>725303417 (OP)
He is. Dunno what makes you think he wasn't.

>>725303735
I like the setting because they believe computers have spirit and do weird rituals to please them and it actually fucking works implying whoever built them were ritualistic beings, or there actually is machine spirits

>>725311250
>is entirely correct about being suspicious of the infernus guild

>>725310092
Lore wise Dark Eldar are bulkier because they're an overall more martial culture than CWE and they require more manual input since they've stifled their psychic powers.

i get that this is a 40k thread but i like the new AoS nurgle stuff revealed

>>725311431
AoS models are honestly really good now. Their design team is great, and I wish some of those inspirations were transferred to 40k.

I hate the commissar rework desu
The stats are even more awkward now andyou just end up being shit at everything besides officer cheerleading

>>725311264
a lot of them do have "machine spirits" in the form of sentient AI. That's the whole thing in 40k Rogue Trader, your ship has an AI and the tech priests have to commune with it, calm it, rub oil on it and incense to be nice to it, so it cooperates. They of course don't make the connection but nonetheless

>>725311141
that thing lost to a named...never mind of course

>>725311542
i mean festus finally got to become a daemon prince that's gotta count for something right

>>725311257
I think Eldar are pretty cool

>>725311264
Machine spirits are a real thing. My landrover has one.

>>725311120
They have some vaguely described "scrubbing" machines, but eventually they need actual replenishment from an agriworld willing to supply. Hope you have good connections if you're a pirate.

>>725311325
Sh-She was accidentally right!

Best portrait

>>725311945
not him but they're a bit boring, I mean the other factions have shit like rocket launching pipe organs, death genies in pokeballs, bio-guns and daemons shoved into machines to make em turn to abominations
They don't have anything of that goofy yet cool type

>>725311670
>>725311264
What's really weird is that they can be corrupted by Chaos. So there is a genuinely supernatural, Warp-connected element to them, even if they have scientific basis in AI

>>725310975
>anon reads "The Imperium is bad but everyone else is worse"
>starts crying
lmao

>>725303417 (OP)
is this game fun? pathfinder kingmaker was kind of not fun after a while.

>>725303417 (OP)
>because it unironically take the position that the Emperor is the highest power in the 40k universe
But.. he is. At least in the current lore. The Emperor is an insane schizo that barely has any of his former humanity at this point, but the psyker banquets and endless trillions of humans zealously believing in him has given him huge warp powers. He is not stronger than all 4 Chaos Gods but on an individual level from a psionic perspective Emps is currently the strongest thing out there. Problem is that so much of his energy is focused on just holding everything together that he doesn't have a lot of juice left for doing standard god stuff.

>>725312298
For some reason all the female portraits have the best backgrounds too. The female psyker one has a great backdrop, for example.

I only accept artwork done by john blanche.

>>725310587
Squat the squats please

tempted to start heretic playthough

>>725308439
how are these freaks different from a chaos cult again?

>>725307803
>they are pure and innocent
oh so the final result doesnt matter at all, only the intent? smartest philosophy fag award

>>725311670
It depends on how advanced the object being tended to is. The process of Machine Priests operating or repairing machines are just religiously ritualized forms of operation and maintenance procedures. The "Machine Spirit" is simply the functionality of an item. For a simple fire arm, oils and cleanings appease the firearm because it maximizes it's performance. For more advanced tools like Titans and Warships this means interfacing with what is essentially an AI, but for the Mechanicum what typically makes AI abominable is because it acts on it's own intelligence without input from an operator.

>>725311250
what? half the point of the dlc was that her heavy handed tactics were brutal but effective and ultimately targeted the right people (in that they targeted everyone)

>>725312669
They don't worship Chaos

>>725307528
Orks are not deliberately evil the way dark Eldar or Chaos are, but they express themselves solely through violently destroying everything that isn't ork. That's pretty evil.

Tau and Eldar aren't evil though. GW's pathetic attempts to do the "no no, we swear they're actually bad too! here's some flavour text about it!" is weak. Tau are a plucky but small and naive fish in a huge ocean of nightmares who have yet to experience the worst of the galaxy, that's their appeal. Craftworld Eldar are just space elves enslaved by their haughtiness in the present and endless hubris from the past.

Why *should* I listen to the strikers in the loading bay. What gave them the right to so-called strike? They're replacable, get back to work.

>>725311664
That's what it always was, it's a class you pick for the cool hat and that's it

hmm i should play again

>first playthrough was 150 hours
>never finished

>>725312669
>Insane people who worship cosmic horrors that want to rape human souls
>Insane people who worship the master of humanity (even though he'd prefer it if they didn't) and want to murder the above people
I CAN'T TELL THE DIFFERENCE!

>>725312302
I like the harlequins for that

>>725312934
Wasn't this guy finally sentenced to prison?
I had the same problem as you though, until I finally sat down and played through the entire game, but my total amount of RT hours in total are over 500 hours now.

>>725312470
Yeah, I noticed that too. The female commissar has that awesome burning cityscape while the male one just has a battlefield, female navy officer gets a ship's bridge and the guy just some random railing, etc.

>>725303735
All the seething replies from the exact redditors this post referred to.

>>725312980
they have the kiss, some mech thing and a goofy hover bike...what else?

>>725312904
>Let them have weapons, just to see how hilarious the results would be
>Everything turns out better than expected
huh

>>725312298
You know that's not even remotely true so why say it

>>725312379
yeah, very if you're into turn-based tactics and lots of reading

>>725312635
It's uh...it's a playthrough. I'll say that.
Heavily underbaked. The only upshot is you get to keep a Forgefiend later on.

>>725313069
The inherent concept of them being murder clowns putting on a show?

>>725307191
>nu-lore

When the daemon hunters turn up you rejoice, for they shall smite the evil that is preying upon you.
When the xenos hunters arrive you rejoice, for that shall quell the alien threat who have been eating your babies.
When the witch hunters turn up you say nothing and do nothing for while they may have come to capture greg who has been attending some suspicious meetings late at night they equally might have come for YOU.

I own this model btw and if I put it in a sock i'll kill anything on this planet that gets within arms reach.

>>725313208
that works

>>725313069
They have bullshit of the highest order.

>>725304130
>They're the least trustworthy companions in the game
That's why the Emperor has a no xenos policy.
Humanity had dealings with aliens when they reached the stars.
But during the Age of Strife the xeno scum shwed their true faces.
Some turned their backs on humans when they need their help.
Others tried to seize the moment to conquer human worlds.

So how does the Rogue Trader CRPG play compared to Owlcats other stuff? I found WOTR very frontloaded but the actual gameplay quite tedious with needing to spam buffs before boss fights even on lower difficulties.

Is it purely real time with pause or does it have a turnbased mode? Because with owlcats encounters I honestly do not like turn based in their games. I'd rather see my party slam into whatever we're killing.

>>725313298
It's a shame Dark Heresy won't let us flaunt our inquisitor like this

>>725313471
>fell for in-universe propaganda

>>725312298
>Kino hunting and trophy backdrop with a nice dusk and planet
>>725313501
>Some boring huge tree roots

on average, how many armies does a 40k player have? like 3 or so?
because you know money

>>725304953
>>725307484
Here's the best version.

>>725307075
Caveman with nukes is a gigabased trope thoughever

>>725313540
To be fair the throne is meant to be a one off special.

>>725303735
I mean they're better than most of the things they fight but they're not really good, and some factions are probably better. Idk how it is elsewhere though but in Rogue Trader they still all act like people. I feel like life can't be that bad if people still have friends and gfs and tell jokes and don't generally act like they want to die. I'm not sure 40k's ethics are all that different from those of really ancient civilisations, which are the ethics humanity has had for most of its existence after progressing past hunting and gathering.

Maybe I am sugercoating it a little, if there's no reason to fight there's no appeal. But the ambiguity is a big part of the appeal as well, the difficulty in trying to assess if there is anything worth fighting for in such a shitty setting.

>>725313669
I've got 5 (not counting refreshes of the model range) but i've been playing for nearly 30 years.

>>725307803
>>725308335
Despite what you've been told, fighting is not an ork's only hobby, comedic torture is also on that list
Just because it isn't a hate crime doesn't make it less evil, or the jonkler would be fiction's greatest hero for loving his job so much

>>725307528
Orks literally brutally slaughter billions of people because they think it’s funny. Eldar aren’t any less xenophobic than the imperium and view everyone else as pawns to be manipulated at best. The tau are a totalitarian empire that frequently uses mind control and sterilization on its subjects

>>725313669
Personally speaking I have an army of Chaos from Warhammer Fantasy. Then I have several sets of Thousand Sons, both resin skit and proper models.

>>725312904
Because the excuse about established regulations is bullshit.
Enforcers were clearly overcompensating after the organized mutiny that just happened & wanted to look/feel less guilty about it. They absolutely SHOULD come down hard on those fuckers looting & stashing shit off the bodies of literal heretics, but you're not going to find that shit if all the people are fucking dead cuz you froze them all.
That's why there's an option to turn the heat back on, but tell Abelard that he's convinced you that this was an exception, and there's no reason to change the rules.

>>725313537
It's turn based only, but it's quicker than Pathfinder games. You don't buff pre-battle.

>>725303417 (OP)
>>725303735
The entire idea about mankind being bad guys is just a marketing ploy by Games Workshop. They want their products to sell equally, so they do not want to project an aura of superiority around a singular product line. The humans can't be allowed to just be the sole moral force in the galaxy because a lot of people and players are RETARDED and can't separate their own selves from the characters that they are playing with, and because they are good people, they don't want to play with bad characters. Games Workshop has to make all of the sides equally appealing, because in the far future there is only war, and if the vast majority picks the same fucking side, they should have won the war tens of thousands of years ago. They need muh fascist human sacrifice empire, so that the torture skeleton robots, rape elves and murder party fungus wouldn't look less appealing to cretins with disposable income.

Craftworld Eldar seem like decent beings.

>>725313073
? What happened?

>>725313537
Rogue Trader is Owclat's best game so far. It also has a problem with the game falling apart towards the end but it's not nearly as bad as Wotr and Kingmaker.
Gameplay is purely turn-based and quite fun, although sometimes a little too easy. I honestly hope they add a Roguelike mode because the classes, gameplay, and itemisation are good enough that I wouldn't mind playing it. Encounter design has also improved, with far more unique encounters and less trash fights (although there are still plenty of those)

>>725303735
Most often lack a brain capacity for this setting. Like the civilised worlds cope. No no maybe ine in 10000 planers is decent and its mostly North Korea tier hell holes. Most imperial world are Hive cities or Agriworlds That make Congo Free State look like summer resort.
Relly most should treat Imperial worlds as a canvas for making their own evil regime. Like i do

>>725313785
you fight for the Emperor, for the good of mankind, for the survival of your people, and so that evil does not win. I know this is a foreign concept to postmodern IRL dystopia where nihilism is the programmed worldview.

>>725313984
Kill Team has been great for this honestly. Fun variety of models, not a lot to paint or construct, quick games. You get the best of everything.

>>725304746
>eu is tau
>Israel is eldar(both kinds)
>africa is orks
>India and china are tyranids

>>725313669
If I told you your head might actually asplode

>>725314104
If Israel is Eldar, then what is America?

>>725313570
Die xeno scum.

>>725308279
The root live beyond the tau in many parts of the galaxy and are more advanced than the tau in some aspects

>>725307658
Big e protects you in the warp.

>>725313828
but he is

>>725303417 (OP)
Is he not? Even in his mostly-dead state, he can single-handedly maintain the entirety of the astropathic network across known space. I thought the whole reason Chaos reached out to Horus was because his status as the Emperor's favorite son meant he was the only creature that the Emperor would hold back against - at least until he killed Ollanius Pius, at which point the Emperor accepted that his son was gone, and annihilated Horus in an inferno of psionic wrath.

>>725314042
Kinda cheating to post one of the most interesting fights in the game.

>>725313175
Just don’t like flamers desu
>>725313501
Overexposure to this one and he just looks too tryhard

How cool are the nids

>>725314013
When "they" came up to them & tried to convince them to join the mutiny, their response was blowing their fucking heads off with said guns.
Danrok pleads with you to never make a decision like that ever again despite how well it turned out for you.

>>725307854
It’s jewish is what it is

>>725313649
>XX
>XY
the deciding factor

>>725314336
>he can single-handedly maintain the entirety of the astropathic network across known space
Anon, that's because they sacrifice 1000 Psykers every single day.

>>725303417 (OP)
It actually portrays very well why all the dogmatism, xenophobia and extreme prejudice are widespread in the imperium
The prologue by itself should make you automatically click dogmatic options every time

>>725314569
To keep him alive, yeah.

>>725308092
NTA - their actions are certainly cruel but "evil" in my opinion implies a level of intent I don't think their intellect allows them to rise to. They're literally space-mold.

It's like if I got drunk, lost control of my car, and ran over a sidewalk full of kids. Or, alternatively, if I groomed and manipulated a single child to distrust her parents, meet me at a deserted intersection in the middle of the night, then tortured her in my basement until the end of time.

In the first one I'm being a retard while in the second I'm being evil, even though I clearly caused far more harm in the former than the latter.

Not saying greenskins are "innocent" or worthy of some kind of pardon, more that they're like pitbulls. Fit to be exterminated, not ascribed attributes they aren't capable of.

>>725309161
>trying to genesteal under the golden throne itself
Even if they managed to start an uprising lol lmao
They likely didn't even knew of Custodes existance

>>725314104
Nah. Russia is orks. Africa is just random undeveloped xenos shithole death world.

Horus sits on the throne

>>725314361
I took very few screenshots while playing. But basically all the important fights and boss battles are at least decent. It's the first Owlcat game where I wanted to start a new playthrough after finishing it and wasn't exhausted.

>>725307869
>stopped the necrons
The necrons won they just didn’t want to rule over a destroyed galaxy
>the great rift
Wouldn’t have happened if the eye never existed

Time for EXTREME HERESY!

>>725314582
You're a Rogue Trader, though. Your entire deal is that you're a generational robber baron who plunders the galaxy with Imperial consent, and they don't ask a lot of questions as long as you keep the kickbacks rolling in.

>>725314827
wow they drew the anime pose but with 40k characters, quirky

>>725314827
>gay
>dead
>lording it up like it is M30

>>725314729
>Flat plane
>Few obstacles
>No environment interaction

Pass.

Necrons became gay the moment GW decided to make them talk and shit. They were better as unfeeling silent automatons.

>>725313997
Uppity niggers, Slaanesh and the Eye of Terror are their fault and they act like if they are better than the other races.

>>725314961
I hate grey knights. They're supremely gay.

>>725314967
They are still 99% unfeeling automatons.

>>725308784
Horseshoe theory is in full effect for the SoB's faith in the emperor being that high, it loops back to chaos. Big E's only moving muscle right now is his eyebrow he raises as he senses a sister say "Blood for the emperor of mankind, skulls for the golden throne" that it gets him ask Khorne ''is this your girl?''.

>>725314972
Craftworlders are the ones who didn't birth a chaos god out of sheer fucking degeneracy, though. They're still a bunch of assholes who constantly lie and fuck with other people's shit, then whine that no one cares they're going extinct.

>>725314508
Depends. Do you like horde armies?
Or with the recent mini do you plan to paint an army of dark coloured chan?

>>725314967
Then play them that way. For gods sake Anon it's been 20 years since 4th edition dropped and you're still whining about a change that only effects the Lords of the faction.

>>725314967
>t. anon who will ignore flayed ones, destroyers, and all warriors and immortals: WHY DO THEY TALK NOW??
it was the best thing to ever happen to the faction and with the range refresh it's easily the best faction in 40k now, seethe another 20 years

Someone at Owlcat has a fetish for this. Literally 1 in 1 that scene with Nenio

>>725314967
Necrontyr are more interesting as a race trapped inside machines.
Nids are already mindless terminator like creatures.

Someone recommend me a build to finally finish the game with.
Tried mostly sword plus pistol AMs and operative snipers before, neither ended up being that fun.

>>725315175
no it's just I think they look cool but a little underwhelming in terms of designs
look at this one for example, it's just the same thing as usual but one of the bigger ones and with the same blades and tentacles/whips

>>725315224

Warhammer needs way, way more "evil vs evil" fights

>>725314967
>>725315224
I like how Nephrekh Dynasty in both versions was bassicaly like Goldmember from Austin Powers 2
>I love gooooold

>>725315147
Craftworlders are the ones who escaed in the last minute.
Exodites are the ones who weren't involved in the degeneracy.

>>725314104
If anything i'd argue Orkz is the balkans.

>>725315396
Well i guess it's the conceptual issue, how do you make space bugs interesting? Maybe that's why people prefer Cults to tyranids.

>>725315531
exodites are out there slaying dino pussy but apparently that's fine

>>725314198
Dark Eldar

>>725315330
I wish there were more companion synergies in terms of dialogue instead of them reacting to the situation once in isolation.

>>725315330
What does Yrliet say there?

>>725309749
All you really need is a few codexes and some rulebooks which give a general overview of the setting and various factions for a basic understanding of the setting

>>725315617
Did Eldar Genestealers ever exist?

>>725315617
>Tallest Becomes Leader
still the funniest shit

>>725315779
Nothing I believe.

>>725315779
I have no idea. That was before the patch that added more reactions to companions, and she was dead in my playthrough.

Felinids when?
Matter of fact, when are we getting more abhuman stuff for the guard in general? They gotta bring back squats as imperial guard support, with leman russes with big drills that dig out of the ground and fuck shit up from down below.

>>725314913
except, surprise, the rogue traders who aren't dogmatic end up literally becoming chaos servants

>>725314280
That only applies to imperial saints like celestine, primarchs and maybe the legion of the damned. Your average hive worlder won't get to see atheist heaven as their souls aren't important enough to save in between keeping the astronomican working and playing yugioh with tzeentch.

>>725315617
well bugs come in variety
they are one of those things that can be milked for so many designs yet with tyranids it's almost always the same creature but with small differences like wings or snake body

also cool irkin

>>725315920
>Felinids when?
Neverever the last mention of them was in a book that like 5 people own and...it's a kroot hunter telling a rougetrader how they had claws the lenght of an forearm. That's it.

>>725315829
Yes. In the Ynnari books, Yvraine and Co. find a drifting Craftworld which they contact and board that has some odd but not overtly threatening Eldar on board. Said Eldar then try to subdue the Ynnari and infect them, revealing that they were infected during their time adrift and accepted the Broodmind in an attempt to escape Slaanesh. They even went as far as to summon their Avatar of Khaine which looked more like a Genestealer Patriarch rather than Khaine.

The Adepta Sororitas owe me maledom sex.

>>725315617
>Metroid but no X
God, i once saw some silly video about Halo's flood in 40k and to that all i can think of is what the fuck is anything in 40k doing to the X parasites from Metroid Fusion

>>725316078
genestealer supremacy

>>725304130
Nah, my alien son is a good boy and we and we made a comfy slice of the galaxy away from all the other autistic factions

>>725314913
A lot of good all this plundering will do when your worlds get raped by ork waaagh/chaos incursion/eldar slavers/tyrannid hive and imperium doesn’t send aid because you aren’t playing ball

So what's the plan?

Bros is Rogue Trader finally "done"? As in finished, the definitive edition?

>>725316319
No it still has at least two DLCs. More might come out if these to sell as well as the original two.

>>725316319
two more dlcs coming in 2026.

>>725316117
>t.

>>725316407
What does the spiral mean

>>725316392
>>725316405
Jesus Christ.

>>725316497
I dunno the warband in this is more druidic then knightly so...I dunno a flower or some shit.
All i know is that im kitbashing him as slaaneshi champion if I ever get my hands on him.

>>725316607
yeah, sorry.

>>725316312
Hot sex with the mon'keigh Rogue Trader for a week so she doesn't notice the Eldar fleet passing through her system. Impregnation optional. Many leg-locks foreseen.

>>725315617
This pic is blatant bullshit. Hrud aren't real.

>>725314637
The car example would fit more if you intentionally ran them over. The orks know full well what they are doing they just don’t have the concept of not killing people

Hope DH will be good.

>>725303417 (OP)
That's been the case in all 40k lore for like the past 10 years where have you been

>>725316810
>Impregnation optional
Its Super cannon(tm)

>>725316893
Around eldar
Guard your purity

If only playing a noble wasn’t so boring…

>>725316928
Anon maybe 3 people ITT get that reference.

should i be a psyker? i kind of want to just shoot things like argenta

>>725306618
>looking forward to heresy

>>725316928
Ultramarines were always so progressive!

>>725317134
I DIDN'T MEAN IT LIKE THAT INQUSITIOR, I SWEAR

>>725317190
you're a heretic

>>725314961
>>Flat plane
>>Few obstacles
>>No environment interaction
NTA but most fights in game are not taking place in flat featureless planes
Cover is a very important mechanic that's found in every fight, and while not every fight has elevation and interactive environments, many do
Boss fights especially will almost always have some sort of interactive environment or special gimmick that you need to play around

>>725315617
Fuck, now the song is playing in my head. Fuck you.

>>725317004
O cmon i kon average 40k fan barely goes beion der current Edition but i they ever bother checking Rouge Trader Nastase is the first thing they hear abaut.

>>725317436
So, where are you from anon?

>>725316047
Cassia mentions them.

>>725315684
There was a Jae and Argenta synergy that made me giggle where Jae predicts Argenta is about to accuse someone of Heresy and then Argenta immediately does so

Do guns work on demons? I was reading the Horus heresy black books and they say that demons are almost immune to guns but I have also seen numerous examples of demons getting harmed by being shot

>>725317479
Sh...Shudddup I just have large fingers.

>>725317518
Guns do work, daemons are just resilient to conventional weaponry because y'know, warp juice fuckery.

>>725304130
>They're the least trustworthy companions in the game
Was this your first time engaging with 40k?
Elfdar are compulsively treacherous to the point of being suicidal about it, Tau are subversive Jews (or communists for you Americans) and Orks will only stick to any deal you make with them until they run out of enemies and come fight you just because.
Ironically, the fucking ORKS are the most trustworthy and reliable of them. It's always been this way.

>>725316951
>Go to freight line
>The thought of being near poor people actually debuffs you

>>725317518
>GW
>Consistency in Powers or scale
Lol...XD even

>>725315617
A lot of these would just end with the genestealer getting eaten

>>725317518
Yes but their effect is diminished. Only actions that carry great personal significance are able to hurt daemons. So in the end conviction is the most important. Melee is so effective because you put your life directly on the line which has a stronger resonance with the warp than just pulling a trigger. But if you pulled the trigger while being charged by a warp entity it would work well enough.

>>725317518
Daemons are damaged by belief. If you fully believe your gun should harm them, then it will. If you become panicked or scared and lose your bearing, the gun won't do anything to them as you don't fully believe that it will.

>>725317518
In Warhammer Fantasy an Imperial sergeant stabbed a Bloodthirster to death with a halbred

>>725317882
An edgy elf beat up the greater daemon N'Kari in the warp and a ginger manlet fought off an infinite army of daemons also in the warp. FantasyCHADS are just built different, Gotrek would easily solo any of the daemon primarchs.

>>725317882
Chaos is super weak in Fantasy. The warp power level drops from 40k levels on the poles to nothing on the equator. Daemons can't even exist for long anywhere outside the polar regions in Fantasy.

>>725317873
until you use Eldar or Necron bullshit to get past that

>>725315920
They’re not wearing underwear!!

>>725317882
because of the great vortex making chaos super weak

>>725318141
malekith and gotrek are the exceptions not the rule
saying fantasy characters are "built different" because of them is like saying everyone in 40k is super strong because the emperor is super strong
also gotrek was literally a god when he fought the daemon army

>>725318182
Isn't that because A.) there's trillions more intelligent lifeforms in 40k, contributing vastly more energy to the Chaos gods, and B.) the Great Vortex of Ulthuan is constantly siphoning the excess energies that Chaos feeds on away from the world?

>>725318540
it's entirely B, A was proven false even before end times
we just don't get to actually see any of the other planets besides mallus
but we know they exist

>>725318351
wild to think a girl like that even would

>wych companion in DH
Please make it happen, owlcat
Also make it so that she'll humiliate and cuck me, and can't be fixed

>>725318798
I bet we are only getting two xenos this time around too. Certainly some kind of retarded GW mandate. Enjoy the male eldar and female kroot. Because that's all there is.

>>725318540
It's mostly B with the Slann also actively doing actions to make Chaos Weaker in Fantasy

>>725318798
>wych companion
yes
>make it so she'll humiliate me
yes
>can't be fixed
yes
>and cuck me
no anon no

>>725314336
That's old lore now
Ascended Horus was legitimately more powerful than E-Money and beat the shit out of him. Emps holding back is not a thing anymore in that fight

>>725314569
On the new dark angles book (the one where the fallen dude infiltrates into the samctum) there is a mention of thpusands of psyker souös churned there by the minute...or sometjing like that, cant remember the exact quote.

Also the new scouring series will habe some heavy revelations to come about the emperor situation.

>Bro! The sisters of battle are so cool and hot!
>Ignores the fact that they only care about the emperor and killing chaos
>Ignores the fact that they can and will kill you for basically anything because they think that everything that doesnt involve wanting to suck the emp's dick is chaos worship

>>725318995
That doesn't make sense, if the Emperor was weaker than Horus, how did he immolate him, flesh, bone and soul?

>>725319301
Still angry that Argenta got away with killing a Rogue Trader, facing no reprecussions.

>>725319301
>ignores
why would i ignore the best parts?

>>725318540
>there's trillions more intelligent lifeforms in 40k
Liber Chaotica makes Abbadon's Black Crusades a canon event of Warhammer Fantasy which Archaon knows about. It's not entirely clear whether or not the Black Crusades happened in the same universe as Fantasy, but they happened *somewhere* and Archaon has had visions of them. Sometimes Chaos Space Marine equipment like bolters and chainswords also finds its way into Fantasy
So it's pretty clear that on some level, the Chaos of Warhammer Fantasy is the same Chaos as 40K. Other lore makes it very unlikely that they're literally the same universe, but they do in some fashion share the same Chaos Gods. So Fantasy's Chaos can't be that much weaker that 40K's Chaos, at least without the Great Vortex around.

>>725319301
yes yes, the SoB's superpower is BPD. you cant fix them.

>>725319525
>Liber Chaotica makes Abbadon's Black Crusades a canon event of Warhammer Fantasy
WF does not equal the 40k universe, but the Warp/the Realms of Chaos are the same I think is the standard answer

>>725319301
That's fine
I will rape them into submission

>>725303735
More or less. But personally, I just always bet on humanity in any setting. They're my home team. I don't see why I should care about different flavors of elves.

>>725318995
He still was holding back it’s just that if he went all out he would’ve become the fifth chaos god

I just started playing a few days ago, am I bad at the the game or is Argenta completely useless? This bitch fumbles every shot I need her to make. Hopefully I can sacrifice her ass to Nurgle later down the line.

>>725303417 (OP)
>>725303735
Blessed posts

>>725320271
Argenta is extremely powerful so you are likely building her wrong, and her starting bolter sucks. Equip her with a heavy bolter, boost shots per round, crits per shot, free reload, have commander buff her.

Stupid sexy dark eldar.

>>725320271
>am I bad at the the game or is Argenta completely useless
You are bad at the game. If you play normally and don't fuck around with minmaxing she's the best damage dealer.
Her starting bolter is deliberately shit just so it gets you through the tutorial and then you get another one.
There's supposedly a flamer build for her but everyone just goes all in on bolter bitchery which is the obvious thing to do.

Why is she so smug?

>>725303417 (OP)
I'm surprised that Owlcat or whoever hasn't really made a Fantasy CRPG. There's plenty of strategy and tactics games, a midass Diablo clone, and Vermintide, but I don't know that Fantasy Roleplay's gotten any sort of adaptation.

>>725320572
She knows how many lusts after her and how they can do nothing about it.

>>725320572
Must have burned a batch of heretics and laughed as they died screaming again.

>>725320667
What a shame. And there's also nearly 0 art of her.

>>725320635
Because Fantasy is dead and is now Old World.

>>725320271
she eventually gets like infinitely stacking crit damage and hits 50 times an attack. probably the easiest character to bust wide open like that.

>>725320667
Is rape against the Codex?

>>725303735
There are no good guys in 40k

For me its the Dark Coil series

>The black-coated ghoul staggered to a halt before the cathedral’s gatehouse. As its master raised a hand to corrode the gates, the slave shivered in sympathy with the entropic blessing, aching for the transformation that had claimed its brothers.
>No... the ghoul thought, staring up at the burning sky. No!
>‘Feisss,’ he gasped, fighting to say the words as he wrenched the pin from the metal orb he had found. ‘Feisss… look… me.’
>The pale herald turned to regard its thrall impassively.
>‘Blood… tight…’ Ichukwu Lemarche hissed, raising the orb.
>‘Void… sealed,’ Toland Feizt responded automatically from the apparition’s core. ‘Locked to–’
>The grenade detonated, incinerating them both in a flash of heat.

>>725320769
They just announced a new edition of WFRP for its 40th anniversary next year anon, it's still been the most successful TTRPG system that GW ever produced

>>725320991
There are no guidelines regarding rape in the Codex, which means that that it's technically not against it.

>>725321017
What the fuck.....

>>725321049
>they can do nothing about it

>>725320769
That didn't stop the Vermintide or Total War: Warhammer games. All of them came out after AoS' launch, if I recall.

>>725321017
40keks btfod

>>725318351
Featureless crotch (fluff acts as pants), also i now kinda want to kitbash a beastman into sybil

>>725311264
Machine spirits are actually real. Not in the 40k universe but in our universe. Anyone who works with tech often knows this.

>>725321097
What are you surprised at?
that WFRP is still around, or that it is more successful than the AoS RPG or the two new 40k RPGs?

>>725321256
I wish this wasn't true, but it is as it is.

>>725321367
Still around. Feels kinda strange that GW markets a franchise they shelved on purpose.

RIP penis hat guns.

>>725321256
>There's a reason tech heads always have incense on hand
I just thought they were smoking weed.

>>725319301
The SoB are not big bitches torwards the guard, mainly because they see the strong dedication in regular humies than the astartes, does that mean a sister would fuck with regular white shields? No unless it's an unsupervised Repentia. But an SoB would see a lonely guardsman in a trench and smother him with a warm hug that'll get him back to the fight.

>>725321693
aaahhh i'm so jealous.....

>>725321501
4e came out in 2018 and had a ton of books printed in that time, way more than Soulbound, the AoS RPG or Wrath and Glory, the 40k RPG.
Also ,Rogue Trader and Dark Heresy not being in print were not factors in those systems getting CRPGs

>>725321616
They don't need weed where they're going my dude.

>>725311141
WELL DONE TITUS
WELL DONE
HOWEVER...
THE STAIN OF CHAOS IS NOT EASILY CLEANSED

>>725321803
You're definitely right

>>725321501
WFRP has a certain pedigree to it, so it's got a decently sized fanbase in the TTRPG space, which contributed to more writers wanting to make books for it.

>>725321832
>That one Neuralink patient who used it to start playing Dawn of War
I believe it.

>>725313679
>note the reflection
????

>>725322073
They photoshopped out his obscenely expensive wrist watch

>>725321862
Chaplin Leandros model when

God I wish I could be a Great Unclean One

>>725322343
sir flabulous

>>725322343
I used to be pro-grandpa nurgle until i read deeper and realized Nurgle is just keeping your ass in a morphine-inducing leash and if you ever dare to fail him or go against him, the morbillion infections in your body would start to hurt you in an extremely painful way that it makes Slaaneshi tortures look like a trip to a spa.

>>725322343
Still frustrates me how Total War Warhammer censors the guts and adds big stupid maws on their stomach.

>>725322668
fucking lol

>>725322142
ah russia never change

How do you flirt with a sister?

>>725322831
>You look cute today?

>>725322491
Yes? No one suffers more at the hands of Chaos than Chaos worshipers, anon.

>>725316497
Carcosa

>>725322831
like this

>>725322831
Tell her you sell propane and propane accessories.

>>725322491
>God of evil is... LE EVIL
Waow

>>725316497
some obscure pagan shit. I don't like AoS but GW hit it out of the park with the new Maggotkin models

>>725322938
THIS SILENCE DISPLEASES SLAANESH

for me it's assassins

>>725303735
The Imperium is not just the way it is due to demands of the wars it has to fight, and it is not just accidentally bad. Huge amounts of resources the Imperium produces go to rich people or other disloyal self serving power centres just dicking around and making things worse if they make any difference at all

>>725322491
Yeah, Nurgle is an abuser whose main emotions are spite and hate

>>725323296
never liked their bug eyes and skin tight suits honestly. Which sounds mega faggy I know, but I'll take a naked Repentia instead.

>>725322910
At this point i think only Khornites get the better end. Sure you'll be a punching bag, but at least there's room to climb up the ranks if you're swole enough.

>>725314967
Then just play Destroyer Cult. They are literally Oldcrons and GW just revealed a bunch of new models that are Destroyer Cult.

>>725323394
>Hates skin right suits
You are gay

>>725323490
Any new Tau models?

>>725308256
Could be worse, at she isn't Protestant

>>725313830
The imperium slaughters billions of people because of a typo on a 500 year old document.
The Imperium views everyone else as abominations to be put down.
The Imperium is a totalitarian empire that frequently lobotomizes people and uses them as door openers.

Only doing 1/3 of them makes you more moral than the Imperium. That doesn't mean the empire isn't unironically sick as fuck and all of those things are cool and fun but let's not pretend the Empire isn't evil as fuck.

>>725323306
Well, yeah, the High Lords of Terra are utterly corrupt, and nine-tenths of Planetary Governors are either incompetent or actively traitorous. Problem is, attempting to rectify this stuff just opens new conflicts, and the Imperium can only afford so many while simultaneously fighting every other intelligent species in known space on top of the deluded psychopaths worshiping dark gods.

>>725323557
yeah two new models

>>725323557
two

>>725323630
>it's evil to be the best guys in the universe
They are based, you are debased. Simple as. I don't love me sum heresy.

No pet tyrannid
No buy

>>725303417 (OP)
she's such a fun character and goated party member
genuinely wtf was gw thinking by ordering owlcat to not make her romanceable?

>>725323705
I can't fucking take this setting seriously.

>>725323807
A lot of the best guys in fiction are evil.

>She [Skane] now serves in the Ordo Hereticus and has become a Recongregator, who dreams of a future where justice in the Imperium is a rule rather than the exception
Recongregator are a Radical subfaction in the Inquisition, as opposed to the Puritans. But wouldn't wishing for more heavy handed rules in the Imperium make someone a Puritan? Is just wishing for any form of change, even stricter change, make someone a radical?

>>725323959
>Is just wishing for any form of change, even stricter change, make someone a radical?
Yes

>>725323457
Join Slaanesh for the promise of pleasure and perfection. Ger tortured to death for eternity.
Join Nurgle for the promise of healing. Become plague zombie.
Join Tzeentch for the promise of knowledge and sorcerous power. Become mindless tentacle monster screaming in torment.
Join Khorne for the promise of fights. Get fights. Die. Fight forever in the afterlife.
This is not exactly a hard choice.

>>725323762
>>725323764
ALL OF THEM HAVE TACTICAL ROCKS!

>>725323884
does she even act different from sister of battle numro 5 trillion?

>rogue trader and his retinue beat a lord of change
This is bullshit right?

>>725323896
From a macro viewpoint, it's pure comedy. Hence why more dramatic works usually narrow the focus considerably.

>>725314735
Humans wouldn't have happened without the old ones.

>>725317518
During the heresy bolters were still mostly just bolters, tools. In the modern day a bolter is a holy symbol of the church with 10,000 years of reverence attached so it hurts demons more

>>725324013
I think Perturabo's goons are the only place where chaos won't fuck you to timbuck two but i digress, all sides of chaos are just lame shit anyways.

>>725324028
Tactical rocks are based you fucking white male chud

>>725324059
Given RT's can get all kinds of bullshit gear in the fluff it is possible. Not likely though.

>>725323912
>best
>evil
de fucking based
simple arse

>>725324098
CHURCH
TANK

>>725324028
Every new character model these days has a mandatory tactical rock. This right here and Grimnar were probably the stupidest examples

>>725324059
Not really, no. You can have a Magos, a psyker, and a space marine with you, that's adequate firepower for the task.
Or just say "Abelard, smack his nuts" and get your pet primarch to style on him.

>>725324059
For an RPG group, it's something a high-level party could do, but it was basically an end-of-long-campaign type of boss fight

>>725324241
>eagles attached to the rock
Do they take the rock into combat? Or is it like winged hussars?

>>725324008
hm!

>>725323896
The amount of wars going on in this setting are actually overated.
90% of the Imperium citizen actually live their entire life like shit but never see xenos or chaos cultists for their entire life

>>725303735
fpbp, the faggots and even the writers are just in denial, humans are the obvious protagonists and they are in the right

>>725324241
But that looks sick as fuck.

>>725324321
You have to kind of understand, the Imperium is generally incredibly averse to change. One of the gods of chaos is dedicated to change, and even without that, change brings radical thinking and a break from tradition and the Imperium is steeped in tradition because they know it works, even if it doesn't.

>>725324406
Good point

>>725324352
>90% of the Imperium citizen actually live their entire life like shit but never see xenos or chaos cultists for their entire life
They still probably live shitty lives that would be considered dire living conditions today

>>725323896
You shouldn't. The setting as a whole is a giant marketing ploy to sell overpriced toy soldiers. It's cool, over-the-top and ridiculous, but you can tell some decent stories within the setting. Just don't think about it too deeply. Also keep in mind that the setting isn't really set in stone, it's full of retcons and contradictions with each of few dozens of authors having a different view on certain things.

>>725319397
Emps casted an illusion where Horus was standing victorious over him and fake-Loken comes up and tells Horus that he should cast off the Dark Gods' power before finishing the job to prove he isn't a slave to chaos, therefore appealing to Horus' ego and sense of pride. It fucking works and Horus gives up his power so he can finish his daddy as a normal (evil) primarch. The Emps launches a final assault on Horus and stabs him with an athame blade which is how Horus gets immolated.

Retarded, I know

>>725324241
ENTER

>>725324058
It’s not so much about acting different as it is about actually having enough time to get to know her. Battle sisters are people too, they can have as much personality as anyone else you meet. Only hacks make them blandly identical.

>>725307528
Tau are just as fucked up as humans and possibly punish failure harsher
Their ((((Greater Good)))) is a lie

>>725324352
Rogue Trader actually makes an excellent point by illustrating this. When you first encounter a daemon almost all of your companions have never seen one and reacts to it. Even Pasqal has never seen one.

>>725324401
yeah it does but then so why does fucking Dante get this shit but literally who gets a whole fucking mountain to sit on

>>725304746
happy cake day, brother

>>725324487
>They still probably live shitty lives that would be considered dire living conditions today
The most common type of planet in the Imperium is the civilized world, which is very much like modern day Earth, just with more conventional wars because the Mechanicum doesn't let random nations have nukes so there's not much stopping from going at it.

>>725323896
Why are you trying to take something you clearly don't like seriously. Its not for people who don't like it.

>>725324774
How come we never see one!

>>725321006
What a low IQ reddit post.
Humans are the good guys. Even if we're the worst and terrible.

Why? Because we're humans. Our side is always good and right. Fuck xenos.

Rogue Traders controlled spaces are probably the best imperial provinces one could live in if you think about it if you are ok being more exposed to xenos

>>725324824
>fuck xenos
Yes please, I'm trying every day.

>>725324824
>Why? Because we're humans. Our side is always good and right.
But what if humans are serving an alien-made undead Lich who is in all practical terms not human?

>>725324819
You do. Your capital, Dargonus, is one, it only has like one or two hives. The rest of the people live in normal cities and villages.
Actually the first planet you show up to is a civilized world which also has like one or two hives. Then they get their sun stolen and all that shit.

>>725321017
I don't really know anything about WFRP, is it compatible with The Old World or is that an entirely separate setting from Fantasy Battles?

>Play 40k game
>Start with a threat that is an interesting faction (Eldar/Orks/Nids)
>It devolves into chaos wank
EVERY
SINGLE
TIME

>>725324856
The correct answer is Ultramar.

>>725324819
how do you set a wargame in a location that has no War?
A lot of Inquisitor campaign books were set in civilised worlds, but those were pretty weird, like a giant forest planet that had become polluted, so all the cities were in domes of fresh air underneath a massive canopy that blocked regular space travel.

>>725318141
Using Gotrek is cheating, he's the only character that can beat ultrasmurf plot armor.

>>725325040
Rogue trader starts with chaos and ends in necrons

>>725324784
I didn't even care about 40k until I started playing Rogue Trader, and then I kinda started liking it until I tried getting into it more, and it just sounds dumber and dumber with every new thing I learn. When I like something I tend to get invested. Not like I want anyone to take it to heart though, not everything is for everyone, I was just mildly disappointed and these threads are too much for me most of the time.

>orks are in dark heresy
ork companion when??????????????

>>725324059
A strike team of Primaris beat one in Space Marine 2 - though there's a lot of metaphysical bullshit going on, as is often the case with the forces of Tzeentch. Presumably there's similar bullshit going on in the RT fight.

>>725325016
Original WFRP was sort of compatible with WFB3e at the time, but these days they are not really compatible.
WFRP is rather low-powered and grubby.

>>725325124
RT goes on for too long. Act 5 and 4 should have been cut.

>>725325051
>Plague Wars
>First Tyrannic War

>>725325192
I'd say a bunch of primaris are way above a rogue trader

>>725311141
What's Captain Titus' statline anyway?

>>725324059
Im personally upset about the Hive Tyrant fight in SM2
No way three ultraniggas are taking down a Hive Tyrant

>>725324059
It's a video game and not lore accurate.

>>725325206
I've heard that in at least one edition of the game, attempting to mount a horse is the quickest way to get your character killed.

>>725325016
Same setting, more or less. Second edition of WFRP took place after Storm of Chaos campaign, the final Chaos invasion that failed. Later of Storm of Chaos was retconned to never have happen. Then The Old World takes place 200 years before previous editions of WHFB.

>>725325219
Arc 5 sure but act 4 is great, second best in the game

>>725325325
might be the third edition since that had a pretty different rule set from the others

Why didn't horus exterminatus terra and call it a day

>>725314967
Sentient necrons were always a thing, even before the c'tan retcon. The retcon was the c'tan being shattered.

>>725317736
Fr?

>>725324535
I've wondered where the Eldar keep getting these webway arches to stand on, aren't those supposed to be rare

>>725325587
Yeah, it's a debuff for those with the Noble archetype

>>725325430
Because Horus wanted to conquer it and rule the Imperium and also you need orbital superiority to do something like that.

>>725321693
the average guardsmen is fucking terrified of the sisters

So, would me masturbating in the trenches to the deployed felinid unit get me executed?

>>725324774
Yes but the population density of hive worlds and cities means the average human lives in a hive, which is a pretty shitty life.

>>725325430
You don't just press a button to exterminatus a world, it requires preparation, time and naval superiority

>>725325818
In private and caught? Depends on your commissar.

>>725325981
Did it on the get-go in Rogue Trader though.

>>725325847
The imperium doesn't know anymore how to make hives so no, they are not that common but each hive can host a couple of billions

>>725326037
Not in my playtrough which is canon

>>725326048
>The imperium doesn't know anymore how to make hives
That is false.

>>725322831
You ask her out to go burn some heretics together.
Alternatively you ask her to help you oversee the crucifixion of various xenos races.

>>725323630
>the imperium slaughters billions because of a typo
Doesn’t happen. The worst that happens is necessary resources get sent to the wrong place or guard regiments get sent to the wrong battlefield which is still not as bad as slaughtering billions for fun
>the imperium views everyone else as abominations
But everyone else are abominations though
>lobotmizes people for door openers
They lobotomize criminals and heretics. Not to mention orks mind break populations into being literal cattle.

>>725326048
Hive worlds have 100-500 billion people on them, but also, 85% of Imperial worlds have at least one hive city, which will have billions there too. Even if hive worlds are the minority, most people still live in hives.

>>725326089
Apologies my liege.

>>725325818
>deployed felinid unit
No such fucking thing unless your commissar is feeling lazy that day and wants the enemy to kill the mutants instead.

>>725323296
They're not based enough to give us a temple assassin romance in DH are they?

>>725326208
Of course not. Enjoy the Kroot.

>>725324593
when's the new space marine 2 update dropping? i NEED tha sanguinary guard armor

>>725325818
You are not seeing a guard cat girl ever.
These mutants if deployed would be in specialist assasin units

>>725326208
You'll get a male Eversor to romance and you'll like it.

>>725325319
Did you miss the part where it was heavily wounded from having a bridge blown up on it? Besides ciaphas Cain took out two of them in one battle

>>725326324
or just meatshield fodder

>>725326310
>sanguinary guard armor
It's based on the Blood Angels Captain not Sanguinary Guard.

>>725326197
They're a stable abhuman strain and are used in IG auxiliary units like ogryns and ratlings - the only difference is that they have a travel ban, so they're not encountered off of their homeworld of Carlos McConnell.

>>725326324
>specialist assasin units
lol
lmao even
They'd be meat shields at best

>>725324059
A team of 6 peak human (Superhuman, Xenos, Psychic) individuals equipped with top of the line Wargear, Archaeotech, Xenotech, and Psy-tech absolutely can and will beat a lord of change. Functionally every companion is the equivalent of a tabletop HQ with all upgrades and named character stats/unique abilities.

>>725326197
They're sanctioned anon.

>>725326456
They have a travel ban!? The Imperiums is so cruel!!!

>>725324667
The true final boss is the jews

>>725326456
>their homeworld of Carlos McConnell.
Why is the planet called that?

>>725323296
imagine the FUCKING SMELL

>>725326393
Ogryns are not considered meatshields and so aren't cat men that can move fast quiet and sneak in everywhere

Falling to chaos feels good right?

>>725326575
Not in my regiment

>>725326785
It's contextual

>>725325847
Some hives seem pretty alright like vervunhive

>>725326785
For about 15 seconds

>>725326712
It's named for the Rogue Trader who reclaimed the planet for the Imperium. /tg/ has long amused themselves by pondering what manner of man he was.

If I was a Rogue Trader I would head straight to Carlos McConnell and get myself some felinid servants

>>725326978
Based

>>725325430
The defenses were too powerful

>>725326978
Same except I would kill them for fun

Medieval World are the best

>>725327412
You are right

>>725327412
I find death worlds to be rather interesting

>>725327619
What about Medieval death worlds

>>725327619
feral death worlds

>>725327661
What, like Fenris?

Fenris Hjølda Ættvater

>>725326715
Bet he's sweaty af under all that metal.