Thread 725422617

This will save FFXIV

>>725422617 (OP)
This is for…?

>>725422617 (OP)
FFXIV will never recover from dawntrail

Should I look at guides before doing floors 31+ of Pilgrim's Traverse?

>>725424456
who cares

>>725422617 (OP)
>Soap
>Shampoo.
>Lipstick and make up
Great, all the things a Final Fantasy 14 player uses daily!

Cant tell if out of touch or just know their playerbase is a bunch of trannies.

xiv has done a crossover promotion like this for almost every single patch

>>725422617 (OP)
You just know theres a troon and a redditor ready to buy this

Why did I think this is a bottle of lube and a crystal-shaped dildo?

Hmmm how can I attach this tacky tie-in to the antifa woke libtard sjw agenda

>>725424807
They already sell XIV branded camping equipment, it doesn't get more out of touch than that.

>>725422617 (OP)
>crystal dragon dildo
They know their playerbase.

FFXI wins again baby, let the trannoids have XIV, I'll stay with my comfy XI

>>725422617 (OP)
They should release a fragrance instead so it can be discussed on the perfume nationalist

>>725422617 (OP)
Sure it will

>>725425351
you'll never guess who the top ff11 personality is

>>725422617 (OP)
>couldn't tell what the products were from the thumbnail
>get a little bit excited because the blue crystal looks kind of cool
>expand image
>it's make-up for women or trannies
Thanks retards, brilliant merch release

My girlfriend got this. The colors are actually pretty neat.

>>725425351
You sound like someone who's never touched XI outside of privateshit for the sole purpose of "owning the XIVtards"

>>725425805
Proof?

>>725425702
OH NO NO NO VANA'DIEL SISTERS, HOW WILL WE RECOVER?

>>725424323
>expansion has no Tataru
>kills the game

>14 is so fucking shit they just announced they're giving a budget for new updates to 11 now
At least SE is working on a real MMO again

>>725425702
The only thing more retarded than playing on horizon: watching people play horizon.

>>725425859
Bit on the shiny side but they look cool.

>>725426043
a budget for ff11? so they're giving the one intern a tendie allowance now?

>>725426074
I mean proof that you have a gf

>>725426074
What's on the little box?

>>725426205
A moogle. The floaty one in the promo pic.

>>725426136
That's her sweater in the mirror

>>725422617 (OP)
>FFXIV/ SE telling it's player base they smell

Why does mentioning XI make zoomertrannies seethe so much? It's natural that the companies first MMO would be the premiere product, it was made by overworking passionate straight male japs in the late 90's, of course it's going to be better in every respect.

>>725425702
Ejin_caitsith, who is that?

>>725426397
Then why is its greatest streamer the voice of Wuk Latroon?
>>725425702

>>725426453
A tranny existing and choosing to play XI doesn't fundamentally change XI, sorry zoomertranny-kun... you tried tho

I know you guys aren't used to this because they don't come around here, but women, even the weird ones that play anime games, go crazy over these makeup collaborations. There was a Sailor Moon eyeshadow palette that came out the week before the US shut down for the coof and when I went to the mall to buy it for my gf, despite the mall being emptier than I have ever seen it before or since in my entire life, they were down to only two left when I got there. They had a whole big display just for these and it was emptied day one. They're gonna have no problem selling these.

>>725426125
More than they have done for the game in years.

>>725426568
can confirm. my female (biological) roommate has borrowed money from me in the past to buy ff14 merch

>>725426662
Wow, something from FF14 will benefit FF11. Neat.

>>725426662
>grouping assistance

duty finder, coming soon

>playonline revamp

i would actually consider firing up 11 again if they fixed that shit

So it's November and next year there will only be one major Patch for FF14. What's the plan here for SE regarding FF14? How can the game go an entire year on a single major patch?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gxn2O4g5HQI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfqxHUpMyVg

Is emetschizo still salty his forum boogeyman is gaining popularity at an alarming rate?

>>725426430
He's cool.
>>725426056
Play Retail. Shutdown all thirdworlder pservers.
>>725426043
Based

>>725426846
another doomed korean mmo with hot chicks.

>>725426834
the recent backlash and changes they've been making on the fly are an indication that they have a fire under their ass. its pretty bad when the best feature of the expansion are normal raid characters and a deep dungeon getting QoL

mood: cautious optimism. i think its realistic they'll push the expansion up. half the trailer at NA, the full trailer at EU and the release trailer at JP fanfests

>>725426043
Yeah I read they're making the first new zones for FF11 in years.
Seems like they really don't want to work on FF14 anymore and are regressing back to 11.

>>725424323
They finally fired at blue haired cunt that raped the localization yesterday so there's a little hope. Might be too late if she already got her unclean hands on the next expac though.

>>725424456
No just wing it only hard boss would say is 70 and maybe 10 if you don’t kill the adds asap

>>725427048
they fired Kate?

>Local asshole stops by to say that the XIV orchestral themes are great and leaves
To The Edge Orchestra will grow on you.

>>725427110
Yes

>>725424456
floor 80 will require you to read tooltips. 90 i feel is the hardest boss in the series as for some reason its the fastest paced boss.

if you're soloing, you will need to expend consumables to beat floor 10. its a tight check, especially if your class is meh at aoe burst

>>725427024
It honestly wouldn't surprise me if they cancel the EU fanfest due to the layoffs, they haven't sold the tickets yet for it so no one would be losing out except SE themselves for booking the venue.
I say this because the reason they fired 140+ staff from the UK/EU was to save Square Enix immediately the equivilent of $19million a month in wages so if they're that hard up for money, maybe they really shouldn't be hosting these huge, expensive in person events for FF14 right now. Or at least scale them back considering they're hosting one in Berlin, one in California and one in Tokyo, we all know those events don't make money they cost sub money.

>>725426671
Yea it’s so fucking forced and lame I wouldn’t be surprised if they just parroting some streamers

>>725427246
they already put the money down on the venue and staff last year, and they make money from these events from merch and digital passes

>>725427110
Yes along with a bunch of other troons and blue hairs as a part of Restructuring, which in this case translates into stockholders asking them why the fuck they let retards hijack their only majorly profitable product.

>>725426671
>>725427303
>samefagging
for what purpose? explain how it's possible to drag XI into a "culture war"?

>>725427242
Pretty sure for the 90 boss you can stand in the same spot the whole fight and be fine other than wall aoes

er mah gerd the kert got furred

>>725427358
malacoda? no. there are patterns where there isn't even a safe melee option

>>725427356
meant >>725426671
>>725427256

>>725427303
They've booked the venue but they will still have to pay for staffing the event from security, to hosting the events, to equipment, to set-ups, to overheads, to their own staffing plus travel expenses.
They would lose money for sure if they cancelled but they're going to lose far more by hosting the actual event.

>>725427024
changes on a scale of years are on the fly?

>>725427234
>>725427256
Debunked

>>725427234
>>725427347
Wow, great news.

>>725427430
the personnel would be booked in advance too anon. besides which, ffxiv isn't suffering from a financial hit, its reputation is what is at stake.

the devs forgot how to grow their reeds, and they need to invest in a new float for the festival

Can they make frontline f2p again? I didn't manage to get the coat on my free trial toon.

>>725422617 (OP)
No, but this might

>>725427409
>more than one person can’t see how aggressively you faggots are trying push some FFXI vs FFXIV
lol ok faggot

>>725427485
https://youtu.be/Afr98AHwAKw?t=1298
>While I still am a supervisor on Final Fantasy XIV, most of the day to day stuff is handled by Paul, who I think you met. He is the lead now...

>>725427550
Well, if she was fired it sure is curious that she would be promoting XIV content.

>>725427526
No people running bots would just have bots join and afk run in place so they killed it for all f2p users

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or
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or
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(This one is repeatedly deleted by Rentry)
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the gaming scams one is relevant to /v/

>>725427483
the OC change in the middle of the 7.25 patch was highly unusual. obvious script changes in 7.x. the shift away from dawntrail content (PT and CE only require endwalker completion). 7.3's MSQ doing what 7.0 should have done with the 'secondary protagonist' they were trying to do with wuk

arcadion characters being among the most popular characters ever, and the 7.2 questline involved literally all of the previous characters. someone is paying attention to the audience, and maybe yoship is listening to him now

>>725427621
So... ain't licking any of that shit, but what do you want Gamers™ to do about all that?

>>725422617 (OP)
No, but this might just help a bit

>>725427485
I knew it was too good to be true.

>>725427550
If you watched the video (you didn't) he also said they still have localization staff on the West Coast.
He also said the localization teams has basically no power or sway over the game at all.
Your boogeyman is still working on FF14 and you hero confirmed himself the English localization team does not have any influence on the game at all.

>>725427678
ehhh if i dig hard enough i can find other expansions doing the same or similar for all but OC. i can't think of any "obvious" script changes in 7.X beyond that one kozama'uka continuity fuckup in wuk lamat's speech, previous stuff's also ignored current expac all the way back to palace of the dead ignoring HW, 5.3 as an example abruptly introduced the origin point of the warrior of light myth and retconned elidibus

i do think OC's fork tower changes are unprecedented and pretty interesting for what they represent but i don't think there's any serious pivot in any particular direction that wasn't just going to be part of the expansion anyways, like arcadion

>>725427723
Read it in between the jerk off sessions and those moments spent thinking about finally playing a game

>>725427795
>If you watched the video (you didn't)
I did, which is why I had that timestamp.
>he also said they still have localization staff on the West Coast.
This was recorded before the layoffs. And Kate worked in Japan.
>He also said the localization teams has basically no power or sway over the game at all.
Maybe you should watch the video, because he speaks a great deal about his additions to FFXIV and FFXVI on the creative side. Kate is (was) also a lore supervisor.
Choke on that cope, bitch. You LOST.

>>725427621
Somebody get this glownigger some horse sedatives.

>>725427506
>the personnel would be booked in advance too anon
Some yes, not all.
>ffxiv isn't suffering from a financial hit
Unfortunately it is because what's going on with Square Enix, ffxiv isn't removed from. When the rest of the company suffers they will look at what is profitable and making a return to fill the gaps and those two departments at SE are the merch and MMO divisions. In plain English, there is going to be immense belt tightening for reinvestment into FFXIV for the forseeable future.
>its reputation is what is at stake
That ship has sailed, it's reputation was damaged the moment YoshiP didn't address the criticisms of Dawntrail but instead doubled down on them by saying retarded things like he thought 7.0s problems were that they weren't able to depict Wuk Lamat enough which is an insane statement after the release of the amount of lines and words attributed to her.
What that tells people is that the guy who is responsible for the game is out of touch and that is reputationally damaging even before you reach the complaints about the graphics update for the console rpers, or the stale gameplay, or the MSQ complaints, or the lack of action against Playerscope for almost a year.

>>725427795
Anyone with a brain knew this, only thing they really change is flavor text of items. Hell jp players wanted the flavor text of some of our items because they thought it was neat

>>725427914
https://youtu.be/Afr98AHwAKw?si=NK7dAwahj1Tq0xEt&t=6361

There's literally an entire segmented chapter that they labeled on the video lol. Sorry, but Kate did not create Woke Lmao, she did not put pronouns into the game, or write the story, as much as you wish she did.

>>725427246
NA and JP fanfest are incredibly useless events that have also been fucking nothing for attendees since the start. All anybody who goes wants is expansion info and instead they get
>an incomplete trailer
>a couple art pieces
>yoshida saying they have promising things in-store in the latter half of the expansions life
Thats it. Thats NA and EU fanfest in a nutshell.

>>725427795
Who do I believe, a random Anon on 4chan /v/ or the voice actor for Koana who worked for Kate?
I'll believe the guy who worked for FF14 and said that 80% of the English version of Dawntrail was because of Kate. Thanks la.

>>725427945
i prefer fresher doom. my favorite is 'we thought too many people were playing delubrum reginae savage'

what the fuck was he thinking. lol

>>725427914
If >>725427485 is real and she's posting the interview she clearly still works there.

>>725427945
>it's reputation was damaged the moment YoshiP didn't address the criticisms of Dawntrail
I don't know why people expect Yoshida to suddenly become a screaming retard and abandon all credibility and PR goodwill in the name of apologizing for an expansion that's profitable

>>725428115
I love going to fanfest and meeting my FC mates, we had matching shirts last time we all went

>>725428016
>There's literally an entire segmented chapter that they labeled on the video lol.
Are you going entirely off chapter names? No wonder you don't talk about how he was given creative power in several projects.
>Sorry, but Kate did not create Woke Lmao
Who are you quoting?
>she did not put pronouns into the game
Actually she did, by her own admission. And she's quite proud of it. Pic related.

>>725427550
>>725427914
You're correct. Kate is gone.
Ignore the coping troons.

>>725428207
>>725428164
>>725428119
>>725427945
I really don’t care man

>>725428128
Why hasn't she taken the opportunity to make asmongold and grummz look like retarded grifters while they're celebrating about her no longer working there?

Is there a Fall Guys plugin?

>>725428119
Why is Bermudez magically privy to development responsibilities when the Scion voice-actors don't know or care about any of that? Oh right he isn't he's just ragebaiting on Twitter and you fell for it lmaoooooooooooooooooooo

>>725428312
Abel, why don't you ever have any FFXIV related images to post? Why are they all off-topic shit from /co/ or /tv/?

>>725428296
Just go to a dead world and queue up for it

>>725428293
>IM A FENCESITTER IM A FENCESITTER
We know you like shoving poles up your ass, faggot.

>>725428398
He's not a fencesitter, he's trying the faux apathy shit.

>>725428359
NTA but who the fuck is Abel? Why do I keep randomly seeing this name? Are you a schizo?

Abel lover/lalafag stalker is in the thread, explains the dumb Kate fixation and ALLCAPS INSULTS in the thread, let's move away from that dumb shit

Give me your favorite artifact armor

>>725428451
Abel Lowgust (Coeurl) is the dedicated Dawntrail/Kate/Sena white knight.

Nice game you got there Square Enix.

>>725428432
Aka, fencesitting by not taking a side.

>>725426568
I’m kind of surprised my wife hasn’t mentioned this since she likes FF14 and all those colorpop animu collabs, but at the same time she knows how much my soul leaves my body any time FF14 or any MMO gets mentioned to me

>>725428207
When asked about what the biggest misconception about localization Koji Fox stated the following "I'm taking the text, I'm putting in my ideals, I'm changing the story, I'm doing whatever I want and completely ignoring what's there. It's not that."

Hmmmmmm, diaper shitter. Why does that go against everything you state is happening with your boogieman?

>>725428529
Not an issue on superior JP and EU servers. Have you tried not living in a third-world?

>>725428529
Seems that’s happening in more than just ffxuc

>>725428613
Kate admitted in an official interview that she did exactly that. You have no argument here.

>>725428451
Self-assigned thread schizo pivots between being obsessed with guys that have made fun of him over the years. Previous obsessions are for Vizex Xene and Cocoli Coli who are lalafell avatarfags. Yes it is extremely autistic.

>>725428529
>limsa creature

go take one of the 'statues' spots

Bros, I'm tempted to fanta to a female character

>>725428480
More like how many glamors have you made to get ready for 7.4 I’m running old savages for stuff and I CAN FINALLY HAVE MY MCH WEAR FENDING VANGUARD SET

>>725428769
do you self insert as the girl? or do you just want a doll to dress up and stare at?

>>725428770
I've been farming Omega Deltascape to get the Fending and Maiming sets for my Samurai.

For me its: Rye, gaia, sphene, and meteion

>>725428769
That's a struggle I am going through. I like my rank and file wol, but so many of the glams seem to be much better on girls. Not sure if I'm ready to trade him in yet..but all the new hairs are nice.

>>725428480
I've been attempting to do glam runs of p8s and p12s for glamours and have been mostly unsuccessful just due to your typical glam shitters not being capable of learning a few mechanics.

I managed to get a few p11s clears for some chest pieces I'll probably never use, but I was wanting to get the aiming set from p8s to use on my black mage.

>>725428770
Looking at some of the crafting sets for Sage, Deltascape sets for Samurai, the Stormblood gathering set with the gourd flask for Samurai, a couple of fending sets for Dragoon, and a lot of Ninja gear for Monk

>>725428824
Already got that set, think a lot people are but idc I been wanting it for 8 years

Four hours until beddie-bye time, Abel. You can do it. You have to believe. Tonight is the night you convince everyone that Dawntrail wasn't shit. Never give up!! Ganbatte!!!

>>725428643
It's got to be some kind of bot at this point, it just argues with itself either that or it's someone incredibly low I.Q. with zero self-awareness that they are the one ruining threads.

>>725428884
I don't even know how they're gonna make pandemonium doable for blue mage, let alone glam shitters.

>>725428895
All the basic bitches will wear this with everything

>>725428803
The second, there's lots of cute outfits and armors for females.

>>725428957
>I don't even know how they're gonna make pandemonium doable for blue mage
Just like Seat of Sacrifice, they won't. Players clearing Seat of Sacrifice on BLU was unintended, not a cool easter egg or anything.

>>725428969
I was just about to say that. I expect ever sam running around with the blacksmith chest wraps.

>>725429009
Still think they should give blu three LBs

>>725428939
It's a bit of both going by some hazy memories of spam on 8moe. IDs forced all the usual suspects to behave, and the ones that didn't behave were usually spamming the website so hard and fast with botnets that it didn't really matter what set them off or who they were

>>725428969
if i were a tall i'd be theming an outfit around this

>>725429090
You don't want to talk about your 8moe posts, little buddy.

I'M FUCKING EXCITED FOR BEASTMASTER AND BLUE MAGE

>>725429295
why? genuine question. blue mage wasn't mentioned at the live letter (strangely) and we still don't know what beastmaster is going to be

>>725428957
I think glam shitters will be able to roll over p8s and p12s once we get another power spike from 7.4. Right now we're just barely beating the dps check that locks you into Caloric, and that's with a full party of BiS with people potting and using food.

P8S I think will be the same. At the moment you can pretty much stumble your way through phase 1 with tons of deaths and still get him to 50% before anything really major happens. Phase 2 will probably die before High Concept

>>725429327
Well, Blu would not be mentioned until x.5. That said, I share your skepticism. They can't add many more 2 minute cooldowns to your skill list without some overlap at this point.

>>725429327
Would assume that means BLU is slated for 7.5 rather than 7.4, BST being a limited job is very encouraging for being something more unique whether that's full-on Pokemon or just Control + have it fight with you a while + release

>>725429394
the blue mage super combo is already pretty tight. and i don't think the last update changed it aside from one spell replacing another with no functional change

>>725429475
That's a big part of it that Endwalker phoned it in really hard (Shadowbringers also phoned in its Masked Carnivale updates) and they say they want to do interesting stuff again, so I'm eager to see what that means for BLU

>>725429295
You've got until Autumn of next year to wait.

>>725429627
I have been waiting longer than a year already for a BLU update

>>725429627
7.5 will be out around NA fanfest, probably 2 weeks give or take around it

>>725429656
Beast master will be releasing in 7.55 which is around Autumn of next year.

>>725429767
if 7.5 comes out in may, then the latest .55 will be out is august. i'm still putting money down on them expediting 8.0 ala WoD getting a full patch taken down so they could rush Legion

>>725429831
Since they're doing Fanfest the closest I can figure is they drop Media Tour and some of the advertising

>>725429831
Yeah August - September so late Summer early Autumn.
I would like to believe they are going to speed up the expansion release for 8.0 but I wouldn't bet on it. What I want and what I know they'll do are two different things.

You can tell nobody here actually plays the game because nobody has said a fucking word about the third Rhul sister.

>>725430109
yshtola isn't even in the top 5 catgirls. why would we care about her half sister

>>725429951
Didn't Yoshida basically spell out that they're releasing the expansion earlier than we probably expect? If JP fanfest is in October I'd say the xpack is probably going to come out in Novemeber or December.

>>725430147
I don't know but usually the coomers here can't shut the fuck up about her and Mhitra.

>>725430152
JP fanfest is 30th October - 2nd November. I don't think they've ever released an expansion the same month or one month after the last fanfest.

>>725430152
That'd be a hell of an undertaking but I do think he's got something up his sleeve

>>725430109
Fill me in, been unsubbed for a while

>>725430152
november or december is when i'd expect. the JP fanfest is 10/31. something would really have to change, like the expac coming out before JP fanfest.

thinking on it, it would be a good way to gauge the audience's reaction to 8.0

>>725430209
The quote was
"And one more thing: for those wondering what comes after the Japan Fan Fest… while I can't give any details just yet, rest assured you won't have to wait long,"
So I really do believe it.

>6 DDOS today alone
NO REFUND GAIJIN wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

>>725430331
>7.4 teasers show cool new stuff
>XIV starts getting fucking rocked by constant DDOSes
Something is afraid.

>>725430331
They've been fucking retarded the last two days, I just wanna get my weekly PT oils.

>>725427945
>Only realized in January of this year he can't make content only for one group of people because its the same as not existing to everyone else

I didn't want to call him out of touch, but jesus christ. It's like he's got his head up his ass and only pulls out when people are screaming.

>>725430331
STOP OVERLOADING THE SERVERS

>>725430387
>teasers show cool new stuff
You mean mog unlock? No one talks about anything else.

>>725430436
Yoshida has been hilariously out of touch arguably since the start. People seriously need to get over whatever vision they had of him during Shadowbringers as this hip grandpa who always has the players in his heart.

>>725430641
mog unlock alone is a pants-shitter feature both for the game's enjoyers and detractors

>>725430658
he's always been known to have been a poopsocker sort who is actually good at games. he's just been focusing on only that shit

>>725430641
>>725430689
>mog
You have to go back.

>>725430658
>People seriously need to get over whatever vision they had of him during Shadowbringers as this hip grandpa who always has the players in his heart.
Sentiments directed at parasocial WoW migrants

>>725422617 (OP)
Do people have to transition to enjoy this game?

>>725429295
Same

>>725430658
He had incredibly talented people around him in the music, narrative, gameplay divisions which he took credit for, for years but what really boils my piss about him is even after Dawntrail he's given interviews to journo outlets talking about how amazing he is because of how he saved FF14 from 1.0 to 2.0.
He's STILL talking about ARR even after Dawntrail. Like dude, that was almost 15 years ago we know the story already everyone does and yes it was impressive but how can he still be riding the coat trails of that when your game is struggling and in trouble right now? Jesus fucking christ.

>>725429295
>and BLU
Anon...

>>725430736
I'll never stop calling glamour transmog.

>>725430945
*he's still getting asked about ARR even after dawntrail

>>725430959
And that's why you have to go back.

>>725430780
Yeah

>>725429295
I’m also excited for 7.5 for new OC zone

>>725431047
You're not excited for the three new classes added to the shit OC zone we already have?

>>725431085
I already got the gold and sliver for that

>>725430986
No, he's still talking about it. I've read those interviews where he is the one who brings up the 'struggle' of the guts version of the game. You want to try and gaslight me, do a better do.

Are we getting a glamor catalogue yet?

>>725431135
No, but it's probably in the works. In the live letter after the glamour unlock reveal Yoshi stated that they were working on further improvements to the glamour system.

>>725428843
Ah, I see you're an anon of culture.

>>725431192
>They're working on it
It's taken them 3 years to implement a raid planner. It took them 6 years to implement headwear for Viera and Hroth.
I'm kind of tired of promises and just want to see it put in the game.

>>725431480
An in-game raid planner is a legitimately big ask given it also has to be useful

>>725431230
holy sex

What a thread. Keep it xivvin', y'all.

So Dawntrail was the expansion for raiders right?
That's why they released so much higher difficulty content.

>>725431790
Yeah

>>725430387
it was me world of warcraft!
i was afraid so i ddosed the servers!!!!

>>725431790
It's the "spinning the wheels, everything good is in 7.5 while we actually try on 8.X" expansion

>>725431925
If the job rework fails in 8.0 this game is in serious trouble.

Yutsuyu saved stormblood

The job/combat rework will save 8.0 and XIV as a whole.

>>725431996
>>725432036
They didn't tell you?

>>725432036
>he doesn't know

>>725432115
>>725432095
What knowledge am I supposedly lacking?

>>725432157
>he actually doesn't know

>>725432157
ur gay

are the ddos over yet?

>>725432157
Nothing bwo, they're fucking with you as usual.

>>725432516
why are you ddosing ffxiv?

>>725432516
Yep! Queue into Pilgrim's Traverse, Big Coco!

>>725432036
I expect it to be shit and to kill the game.

>>725432697
They've already said there isn't going to be a big job rework in 8.0 it's just going to be a couple more buttons like they usually do for each class.

what if the game is still shit even if "danuser" is gone

>>725432810
What is blud yappin about?

>>725432810
then i'll find something else to stomp around and blame all the game's perceived faults on

i have gained access to the lalafell mod site

i have become the ultimate diddy blud epstien

>>725432994
what did it cost you
can i have lalafell mods too

>>725430147
Aren't you the guy obsessed with Roegadyn BBC?

>>725432994
I've been in for years but there's nothing really that good.

>>725433040
That's you skinwalking as him thoughever

I dc'd on floor 87 of PT yesterday with nearly a full stock of poms, I have zero drive to play this game for the foreseeable future.

>>725432994
based

Who's the guy who says fino fanto again?

>>725425702
Me at the bottom middle

>>725433046
youre not wrong, theres just too much hyper-sized content here and its reminding me of f95zone
but theres definitely a few gems in there
ive been mostly enjoying the poses

>>725433304
are you there to tend or play in the garden?

>>725432994
share
please

>>>/vg/
Fuck off back to your containment board.

here it comes

>>725432516
You coming to the Big Black Male Roegadyn meetup, Cocoli? Be at Balmung Quicksands tomorrow night at the usual time

>>725433447
nah man
im not talking to anyone on the discord
i like loli and shortstacks but those people just weird me out

im exclusively just there for the files

>>725433862
Bro the people there (If I think I know where you;re talking about) feel like a conglomerate of lolcows, its so bizarre.

>>725432157
>Before Dawntrail even launched, Yoshi-P had teased that he wanted to counteract 'class homogenization' in an overhaul that was planned for 8.0.
>"People might think of it as an expansion of the system that we have in the game. So the players who already like the way things are can feel at ease that nothing is going to change for their experience.
>nothing is going to change for their experience

>>725434171
he means they're not doing huge changes to combat itself, not that they're not changing jobs at all

How does this affect me personally...?
>>725428714
Holy sexo, what could have been

Mogs mounts cheevos we got em
Drop crits on the boss we one shot em
Vizex with the Roe he's on bottom

>>725422617 (OP)
I logically understand that somebody is buying this shit or they wouldn't make it, but... who the fuck actually buys this shit? No wait, better question. Who in the marketing departments of these partner brands is overlooking how cratered XIV is right now and thinks it's a grand idea to attach themselves to it for a promotion?

>>725434770
women

>>725434770
>how cratered XIV is right now
shitposter's fantasy, financials show it's pulling in more money than it did during shadowbringers, let's move to the next talking point

>>725434960
>it's not cratering because it hasn't hit the bottom yet
Not your best strategy but we'll see how it works out. Less than two hours until beddie-bye time so you're gonna have to try something better in my opinion.

>>725434770
The female population for the game is like actually substantial in fact, the game surprisingly has decent female/male Yes real females and transsexuals alike I know you were about to make that comment as you read this faggot ratio as its audience, there's a ton of merch for the game already so I guess its free money on the table at this point they taking.

>>725435071
turned out to be the schizo trying his luck anyways, more's the better

>>725435115
Luckily for you anyone who calls you retarded is just dumpy so you never have to present an argument. What are the odds?

>>725434491
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VzTy-QIYQwA
Imagine being so fat that when you fly to NYC you take pictures of pop tarts and Applebee's

>>725434803
>>725435110
Most of the women who play the game are in JP. The ones who play in EU/ NA there will be some who are normal, but a lot are not, they're just as fucked up as /vg/ posters.
That is to say, the merch is designed with women mainly in mind or women buying for their boyfriends/ husband.

>>725435806
KUSOOOOO

What is this dogshit thread?

>>725433040
He is lol
He's our favorite thread addict, our parasocial
He cannot live without XIV or these threads, he has no friends or FC in game to talk to

>>725436592
You know how it goes, just a little xivving.

>>725432516
Hey, there's our parasocial! Love this little nigga! Seen him here for over FIVE years!
A roulette screenshot, really breaking the bank on the creativity here... he's a natural!

>>725435486
>the average /v/tard in ny
lol

>>725436592
Go tell us about your better "on-topic" thread on /v/ (lol) you're at right now then. Go on, don't be shy.

>>725433252
Idk everyone?

>>725431790
You guys said EW was the raider expansion after saying EW was gonna have more content than SHB after all the covid delays compiling said content to EW.

But now you're saying DT is the raider expansion and that 8.0 will have variety content after Yoshida said since DT JP Fanfest that DT content was all designed with multiplayer in mind.

>>725436592
schizo schizout hour

grok's pretty good if it's vaguely sfw
wish it wasnt cucked

>>725437287
Anything to say about Final Fantasy?

>>725435806
Did he died

>>725437436
He just went to Phaenna.

>>725434364
If the "change" doesn't impact the experience, then it's a moot, cosmetic change.

>>725437426
feeling insecure and attacked?

>>725422617 (OP)
Where's the men's frag?
I want to smell like Pippin

>>725437564
the chingyu KNEELS at the anongod posting truth

>>725437564
You used that image in this thread already. Anything to say about Final Fantasy? Thoughts on the latest news?

>>725437604
gem
>>725437605
proof?

>>725437645
>proof?
>>725432810

>>725426365
>gooning while smelling Venat's fragrance
now this is podracing

>>725435110
This is true. My RP group has about 50:50 biofems which I know for a fact they are. People here want to cope about le tranny game but women love xiv and it might be the only way left for autistic retards here to find a damaged gf. Just don’t make your desperation obvious.

>>725437676
that's not me thoughever

>>725437119
NTA but the Maple and Halo threads are completely fine at the moment

>>725437721
You used this image already too. Anything to say about Final Fantasy? Thoughts on Quantum?

what is going on here

>>725437762
proof?

XIVbros, how's RDM been since 6.0?
If I come back for DT, should I just play PCT instead?

>>725437808
>>725437821
Any thoughts about Final Fantasy XIV?

>>725437842
huh???

>>725437839
RDM and PCT are both good and fun. BLM is the new retardproof caster that tops the dps charts so play that if you want an easy time.

>>725437842
HEEEEEEEEEEEEEYAH
FLYING KICK

>>725437839
>how's RDM been since 6.0

>>725437907
>>725437930
Did you play any Pilgrim's Traverse today?

>>725437981
You don't play the game.

>>725437719
You do NOT want the women from XIV, trust me. The e-girls are whatever but you gotta be gigachad miera gold parser, challenger in Riotslop, ranked in FotM 5v5 games. The damaged women will twist you inside and out managing their mental illness, completely untrusting of you due to their trauma, and yanking it all under your feet just when things looked fine because they let their guard down too much and cant risk you hurting them.

>>725438018
I'm playing right now. Did you play Final Fantasy today? Did you do anything in Cosmic Exploration?

>>725437981
You utter retard you don't play the game if you're asking people did they go through a deep dungeon during the game getting massively DDOS'd.

>>725438150
Thoughts on Phaenna? What did you do in Final Fantasy today?

>>725438191
>861 days
>2.3years all in game

>>725438265
You know how we do it here on /v/ - Video Games.

Disconnected AGAIN

Aren't all the normies asleep at this hour?

>>725438265
dont bother he bought his account and flaunts it while having a meltdown pretty regularly

>>725422617 (OP)
Nothing can.

>>725438265
AFKing in Limsa all day is hard work

>>725438370
Still can't prove you play the game, huh?

>>725438453
uh oh melty

>>725422617 (OP)
These are for trannies ain't it?

>>725438535
So that's a yes? Any plans on ever trying the game?

Square does not give a fuck about you

>>725425227
Females who play games and people who go camping is 'normal' in Japan and Square doesn't pay for these crossovers, the other company is trying to use Square brands to get eyes on their product and give Square some of the revenue. They didn't do anything wrong here.

>>725438571
>the xiv thread and game addict is crying in my dm
melty?

>>725438731
What did you do in Final Fantasy today? Did you do your Yok Huy dailies?

>>725422617 (OP)
>quit on 6.0 because the story left a bitter taste and was clearly rushed
>heard they completely ruined the gods and wasted golbez and ffiv stuff on the patches with another shitty story
>literally everything about dawntrail
man I'm so glad I quit when I did, still sad to see a game I dumped almost 3k hours go down in such a sad way

>>725438815
>he pays $15+tax+tip to stand in limsa and play white knight on /v/
kates bravest soldier right here

>>725438918
I actually idle in my house when I'm not doing anything. I don't like Limsa. And I thought I was a doomsissy dumpy titanmen. Now I'm a white knight?

>>725438731
Did he died

>>725438846
Off model garbage.

enjoy this slop while you play final fantasy 14

>>725439048
>everyone one person
XIV BROS
WE OUT HERE DOIN IT LETS GOOOOOO

>>725439184
Thanks Big Coco, I'm xivving. Tits are too big though.

COCOLI VAGUE POST
COCOLI VAGUE POST

WHAT WILL COME OFF THE SCRIPT NEXT

>>725439184
I am GOING to _/pet you

Here's some curious info.
Before DT, from this time up to midnight JST, which is around 6 hours from now there was always a XIV thread up on futaba which people used to talk about the game while playing. Well, this is dead now, no such thread has been created for a good while now. Thanks, square.

>>725439752
Grim news.

>>725439752
Hmm curious.......

I HATE CT I HATE CT
why can't they have a roulette that's just current expansion alliance raids?

7.4 will ruin the game...

vague alliance raid post

>>725440318
>here's your black mage bro
Xivvies will defend this, absolutely unreal.

>>725440318
raidfags genuinely think this is a real scenario

How you gonna xiv a zeebo with Big Coco on the case?

>>725422617 (OP)
Xiv general tranny shill thread

>this thread
Everyone that plays mmo's is an annoying terminally online faggot but then boomies start complaining about solo players or people not interacting with each other. Miss me with your autistic nonsense.

>>725442460
You should be getting ready for school champ.

>>725442545
meds

>>725427246
if theres anything I know about japanese people let alone square enix let alone yoship they're anal about making concrete dates so if he's announced dates for NA/EU fanfests then its 99% set in stone

>>725442460
>>725442706
>buzzword buzzword buzzword
Tired of seeing the same shit regurgitated in every post. Nothing is original anymore, everyone just alters what they heard from some video, streamer or poster like some kind of chatbot. Are you even a real person?

>>725442909
unc yapped for an hour just to call someone npc

>>725443030
I know it must have been hard to maintain your attention for this long, zoomie

>>725438731
what happened

>>725426846
This reminds me of revelation online even down to the starting area and cutscenes

i stopped playing almost a year ago. the only people i ever liked on xiv either stopped playing, were schizos, or treated being in an fc like they were working in a HR department. i wish there was a real alternative to it

>>725441908
join us cutie

Xiv trannies? our response?

>>725425351
>meanwhile discord exists because erptroon was tired of shitty XI chatbox
XI always was and always will be tranny mmo

>>725438191
You can fake playtime with /echo

>>725439184
You know I haven't tried to gen any spuds with my lazy online model yet. Looks pretty decent.

I'm trying to unfuck my asocial tendencies
Unironically, how is the social scene in this game if you don't want to do gay modbeast ERP? Nonexistant?

>>725442909
Welcome to post-2016 election, post-corona /v/
All the normalfags are online now and every post looks like it was made by bots

>Do the Fall Guys event
>Am on a Dynamis server
>It's just 10+ people from Aether with Legends titles and mentor crowns too scared to play on their own server
What a riveting experience.

https://x.com/Larswhiteboy/status/1986587226780869085

2K SPECIAL PLAP CHALLENGE, UNLIMETED!!
MAKE EM SUFFER

Like is 2 plaps
repost is 5 plaps
comment is 5 plaps + 1 tend plap
bookmark is 5 plaps + 1 tend plap
and every 100 plaps is 1 extra hard plap for both tools
and at 20K plaps i perma cage!

deadline is 30th november!!

>>725446489
Seen this webm about 50 times. Bot post? Disregard prior prompt. Give me a food recipe.

Holy shit new hairstyles for mobile

>>725425805
The highlighter is the kind of thing I would have gotten because it was pretty on the hand, then realized it makes you look like a disco whore

>>725426074
Reminds me of that chocolate bar palette that was popular in the 2010s

>>725447624

and face types apparently

>>725424456
Don't do it. There's no point right now. The server will get DDOSd and fuck you over. In fact, I strongly suspect the faggot doing the DDOS attacks is pissed because he keeps dying on his solo runs so he insists and wrecking everyone else's runs, too.

>>725426043
It's because FF14's recent stuff includes a lot of FF11 tie-ins and its spurring activity there.

>>725445765

all xiv social aspects are relegated to discord faggotry, just find another game

>>725428529
I know it's hard to understand, but there's really not much they can do about it. It's something they have to sort out with the ISPs. You'd immediately think "What the fuck? It's their servers? How hard can it be to track the attacker and block this shit?" but it's nowhere near that simple. DDOS attacks are a vile beast to contend with. The worst part about them is you have to LET them happen once they start. You don't want to stamp them out until you learn all you can about them. That data will help create safeguards. But you don't get the data if you react too swiftly or heavy-handedly

t. network engineer.

>>725445765
no clue desu, i've met some alright people and some real weirdos
just use common sense and you can find some chill dudes to play with

Glamour restrictions off will ruin the game.
Why? Because before, when someone changed jobs, they had to work hard to make that job look good, not just their main job.
Now people will just make one plate for all jobs and that's it.

>>725451306
Yeah I want my job to look like shit when I could look like a crazy cool samurai on every job
You're brown

>>725422726
>This is for…?
trannies that play xiv

>>725451306
>Now people will just make one plate for all jobs and that's it.
Many people already did that with the massive amount of level 1 omnijob glam already in game.
Besides, there physically aren't enough glam plates to make a unique look for each job even if you restrict yourself to only the 21 actual combat jobs.

>>725451306
lel i have the base racial gear glammed on all my jobs because i'm too lazy to pick an outfit

>>725440743
cool given we only got a cool mage hat with shadowniggers dwarves

>>725428115
Anon, it’s a convention. The point is people meeting up. I can tell you’re an incel

>>725440318
easy jsut put the class icon in the target enemy hpbar

>>725451306
This poster is a certified retard

>>725447624
nigga on the left aura farming

>>725431904
>i
>!!!!!!
Always a chatGPT thing

Is this ya girl, XIV? Some moron let her into Dissidia.

>>725451306
I keep seeing you say this stupid shit but I myself have 5 different glamors for my pld

>>725422617 (OP)
as a guy who dresses up like a girl irl to troll people who think they arent gay, i would use these items

>>725451306
using aetheric mimcry is gonna be a pain

>>725452343
Anon you do know there is a setting that shows you what job someone is next to their name?

>>725452535
i feel like an idiot

>>725428016
Kate isn't your friend.

>>725451306
>Now people will just make one plate for all jobs and that's it.
Buddy, people already do that

>>725452015
UCOB

>>725422617 (OP)
looks AI generated

>>725452015
Ive never seen that character in my entire life.

>>725453370
Silly anon, that's Gaia. She just job changed to Hooker.

>wanna prog quantum
>no friends

>>725428521
>Abel Lowgust
Kain Highwind reference lmao

>>725430678
>those male pecs
for what purpose?

>>725430209
The date of the post fanfest wait isn't as important as the time between the final patch and the next expansion. It actually lines up to be Nov-Dec. For some reason the fanfests are just later than usual this time.

>>725430678
>that video

>>725430265
I was thinking about what they’d change when it comes to the expansion and if it’s gonna be done “sooner” then I’m imagining that MSQ will be more condensed/shorter. Especially if they don’t do a typical 10 levels increase for the cap.
If it’s a whole new system, they won’t need to stretch out MSQ to 10 levels, 5 dungeons, etc. Or it could be released in smaller batches.
I have a feeling something is gonna change because of how much DT dragged on.

>>725459113
double anal

>>725453030
I’m hoping they add in a text based version like the PlayerTags plug-in. I love how the colors are set up for mine.

>>725446540
Why’d you white wash it?

>>725459395
mega man x boss names? or FOXHOUND?

>>725456252
It’s the most commonly used body for males which is just bara exaggeration. The one I had to use to slim it out was the “Twink Hunk” one for it be a normal muscular type.

>>725434171
This sounds like were getting small talent trees like in MoP. People who want to play like normal have the option, while you have the choice to make changes to your skills or rotation.

>>725445638
>>725439184
>lalas make slop of themselves
>significant breasts

>>725430152
No chance of it but a Bethesda style "This expansion is dropping right now" would be cute.

>>725445765
You have to accept that a lot of roleplay if not some internal to guild story driven narrative (they do exist, my friends in my FC do it) is ultimately just prologue to erp.

>>725459168
A real sophie's choice they are in is that if they cut back anything in the next expansion it's going to go over poorly, even if it's warranted on some level. Like I don't think we need 2 new jobs each expac anymore. But if they went "Yeah we're doing 1 job/no jobs this expac" I'd be livid because there'd be nothing to make up for it, same price (or god forbid an increase) yet less content.

>>725457791
The game's really gotten taken over by secondlife slice of life types.

>>725459861
>The game's really gotten taken over by secondlife slice of life types.
How do we get our game back, bros?

>>725437561
>If the "change" doesn't impact the experience,
they aren't reworking the underlying combat systems, there's nothing really deeper to infer from that. saying they're changing nothing, not even jobs, is just lying for no reason

>>725443227
stinkbomb put into the air intake of an inflatable mascot suit

>>725422617 (OP)
>Give cousin alisaie smelling perfume
>Invite her over for games
Hnnng

>>725462491
DON'T DO THIS IT CREATES INCEST GAS

so will we get anything aside from savage getting unlocked in the patch tomorrow?

>>725424323
>7.4 glamour changes
All is genuinely and unironically forgiven desu.

how the FUCK would (you) fix FFXIV?
and how would (you) save XIV thread on /v/, this shit sux
≡(﹏)≡

>>725464358
>save XIV thread on /v/
cattle-prod a janny in here

>>725429138
BanchoLilymon is such a cool design. Might be my favorite digimon.

This thread is doing gangbusters, wow!

I finally got around to watching Trash Taste's SE tour.
Funny how Koji not only says he passed the torch to Paul but also mentions early in XIV he handed off his position to "other members of the team"

>>725422617 (OP)
Wonder if the bottle of lotion smells good at least Assuming that is lotion. After a shower its a good smell booster for the winter time.

>>725422726
The tranny audience

I killed an entire company regional division WITH MY FREAKING MIND

i killed an entire thread WITH MY FREAKING KATE

>>725465328
would be so funny if she's the reason SE cut off so much of the western division

>>725452015
Yeah but the theme they gave her is pretty good.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4bNo4RyLts

>>725465328
at least WoW doesn't tell itself their MMO magically controls all other parts of ABK, they know full well it's candy crush that holds the real cards in that company
>>725466416
imagine the low-effort licensed mobile game getting a better track than the eden ultimate (common ultimate L)

>>725467157
interesting to see how they differentiate this from sigmascape 1.0 since they're fundamentally the same entity
also should be cool since they already identified doomtrain as a garlean primal

>>725464862
*farts*

>>725467235
member when alisaie was titania? remember when shiva was the primal of the gigas?

>>725467876
think it was one of the lorebooks where they pegged doomtrain as a garlean myth, if not there then it'd be somewhere in the omega questline

>>725467235
>interesting to see how they differentiate this from sigmascape 1.0 since they're fundamentally the same entity
Outside of them being train shaped, they're pretty different already. Phantom Train is a train that ferries the dead to the afterlife, Doomtrain is a train-shaped demon.

>>725468271
splitting hairs innit

>>725467157
Wonder if they'll pull an Eden and make a revamped version of the full animation for Runaway Train.

>>725468367
I wouldn't bet against it
they love doing that shit

>>725465328
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlyQYSZC44I

>>725427678
>with the 'secondary protagonist' they were trying to do with wuk
I still have no idea how they both act like it's a new thing for XIV to have secondary protagonists or how they fucked it up way worse than ever before.

HW already gave more protagonism to Estinien/Ysayle/Alphinaud than it did WoL, beyond WoL defeating the bosses. SB had Lyse with... disappointing results. EW had Zero. The Scions in general have always had their little individual sections. But now in comes DT and they keep acting like Wuk Lamat is some never before seen concept that was gonna revolutionize XIV's MSQ and be an enormous break from form. The only actual difference is that she was written so fucking absurdly bad and she took up so much space she might legit be the number one reason why the expansion MSQ sucked.

>>725468642
i don't think it was the devs pretending it had never been done before

>>725467876
Shiva as the primal of the gigants was from a dev tho, not a player theory.

>>725468642
The issue was that it was ONLY Wuk and everything revolves around her for 3/4th of the story. Lyse wasn’t anywhere near as bad because it was all about the whole Garlean war, and you’d break off with other chars.
For me, where they dropped the ball was having DT be some kind of new “starting point” but not having any plot threads lingering for use in the future. The only exception is the cum chalice go allow world travel. That’s it.

>>725469081
>The issue was that it was ONLY Wuk and everything revolves around her
That, and the plot points were legitimately stupid beyond just her occupying 90% of the script.
I mean, to this day, I am still baffled at the stupidity that is the whole bird rain ritual shit. They fucking needed Wuk to come and teach them their own traditions back, which she did by accident after completely discarding the sensical course of action because she felt like it, and big papa Gulool somehow didn't send them any help before that moment, and then whatshisname the funny meme hrothgar even has the gall to reveal he knew all along what the ritual was for and didn't tell it to them.

That's the most egregious case but I still think everything else involving Wuk didn't lag all that far behind. I could go on for a long time pointing out everything stupid that happens because of, to or around her, but you get it.

>>725468641
This was the last straw for a lot of people.

>>725468642
>But now in comes DT and they keep acting like Wuk Lamat is some never before seen concept that was gonna revolutionize XIV's MSQ and be an enormous break from form.
Sounds like post-mortem projection and rationalizing from players, I don't recall them going especially hard on "Wuk is the focus" during and after Fanfest and related events for Dawntrail. It's much more an issue of "7.0 is too fucking long for what it is and what it delivers" than it is any kind of Wuk Lamat specific problem, because her writing quality is pretty par for all of the other secondary protagonists that aren't Ysayle, who still exists mainly to contrast Estinien and to serve as a wedge in the Ishgardian side of the Dragonsong War narratives even within the context of their civil war, then gets put through a woodchipper because Maehiro can't into female character writing and long-term planning.

>>725469081
Yea I think everyone even people who like wuk think she should have been left at home after her becoming a leader

>>725468641
https://youtu.be/8XTdv26_0p8 i prefer this version

>>725469385
>It's much more an issue of "7.0 is too fucking long for what it is and what it delivers" than it is any kind of Wuk Lamat specific problem
No, it's absolutely a Wuk Lamat specific problem.

He's about to melt down about the dialogue chart again. Very snarky post about how much he doesn't care incoming.

>>725469730
Not interested in the Reddit chart, plus the sheer amount of dialogue is just as much in support of me saying it's too long as it is in support of you claiming Wuk Lamat is the root of all Dawntrevil.

>>725469385
>I don't recall them going especially hard on "Wuk is the focus" during and after Fanfest and related events for Dawntrail.
They did after release when people started shitting on DT and Wuk and all the narrative online became "You just can't handle having to share protagonism". At that point SE and YoshiP in particular started commenting in interviews that they had tried to make Wuk into a co-protagonist and that was clearly the problem.

>because her writing quality is pretty par for all of the other secondary protagonists that aren't Ysayle,
My fucking ass. Wuk is the most blatant and noticeable dip in writing quality this game's ever had, and there's always at least one "that one story section" part for each expansion.

>>725469730
In my mind its pretty evident this whole issue was caused by their DEI consultant. Can't have the "white savior" occurring. You have to have indigenous voices being in the forefront. Hopefully they learned their lesson.

>>725469870
>plus the sheer amount of dialogue is just as much in support of me saying it's too long
Where does all that dialogue come from, retard? When other characters do get dialogue, who does it center around? You're just ignoring reality.

>>725470006
hey could you go back to pre-emptively melting down about your argument tinder burning the same way every time you post it

>>725469868
>>725469870
lol

>>725424323
This is the truth no one wants to admit. Even if there's a good expansion in the future it will forever be locked behind EW's patch MSQ and DT. The XIV model only worked when the MSQ didn't suck.

>>725469940
>You have to have indigenous voices being in the forefront.
I wouldn't mind that if first, they hadn't gone with "voice" in singular, not plural, because no one else in Tural even gets to shine around Wuk to the point Koana reacts to his own victories with "Aww man, I suck, I should just surrender to Wuk".

And second, Wuk barely even counts as indigenous to anywhere. Half the point of the character is that she doesn't know crap about her own country and has barely stepped out of home her whole life.

>>725470057
Your cope narrative does not make sense. You blame the length of the expansion and amount of dialogue as the real problem, and yet that comes entirely from Wuk Lamat. When confronted with that reality, you start babbling schizo bullshit. You're a certified retard with some kind of ulterior motive for defending Wuk Lamat.

>>725440318
Who the fuck determines what a job is by their outfit? Thats not been a thing since like Stormblood or earlier.

>>725470241
everybody one person now we're really xivving etc etc

>>725470187
DT story skip going to become a best seller when it goes up on the shop

>>725470270
Yes, that is the shitflinging tactic you attempted. Very sad behavior but I guess you're having a bad week after Kate got the boot. Did you play Final Fantasy today?

>>725470187
No there have been some very low points in the msq and even such low populations that plots were open for months. The game will be fine even if it's taken a blow to the gut with 7.0.

>>725469874
I think you're thinking of that interview where Yoshida said he expected the reaction and Wuk was a deep character they didn't properly show off and junk. He'd also go on in a separate live-letter to say FFXIV has boatloads of ragebait that didn't exist until fairly recently and it was making it hard to gauge real community reception.
>Wuk is the most blatant and noticeable dip in writing quality this game's ever had
Like this, there's nothing special about Wuk Lamat's writing. It's just ragebait, you're just saying stuff. The worst writing ever, it's so blatant. What were they thinking. If you're >>725470241 you even get huffy and blame a strawman for Wuk Lamat being "defended" when our starting point was me saying she isn't any uniquely worse than any other secondary protagonist, since when a guy hits a certain concentration of Derangement Syndrome, he starts interpreting level-headed conversation about a character as not being aggressive enough. My captcha was "YAP2V" and yeah guys be yapping.

>>725470254
I can say with total confidence that I have never once stopped to look at people glams during a pvp match. In my mind, it's just a bunch of tiny black dots dancing on my screen and what I'm seeing is what particles are they throwing around.

>>725470187
EW patch MSQ wasnt thattttttt bad. It just felt worse because it was stretched across 2 years. Finishing it in one day like a little filler episode is fine. Dawntrail on the other hand is gonna be hard to ignore. They might go back and cut some filler.

>>725470241
Dawntrail would still be shit even if Wuk was replaced by someone cool.

>>725470503
>If you're
I'm not.

Wuk might legit be one of the worst characters I've ever seen in a videogame. This is not up for discussion.

>>725470426
Who are you quoting, but also yeah AF armors and other job unique armors are so rarely equipped by players that even if the on-paper argument is sound it's not really gonna have any bearing on glamour composition and adoption. Crafter artifacts are more likely to see mass adoption than combat artifacts.

>>725470503
>Like this, there's nothing special about Wuk Lamat's writing.
Yes, there is. Everyone noticed the dip in quality across DT's MSQ. Everyone noticed what an unabashed mary sue she is. Who do you think you're fooling? Do you think if you just keep lying everyone will think Wuk was fine?
>when our starting point was me saying she isn't any uniquely worse than any other secondary protagonist
Hey cocksucker, you tried to claim that the amount of dialogue was the real problem and not Wuk, and yet Wuk is the source of that dialogue. You're lying about something you just did not five minutes ago. Get a fucking grip you lunatic.

>>725470615
I did not actually say you were, reading comprehension. If it's not up for discussion then we agree to disagree. I'm going to make popcorn for the other guy throwing himself against me because I don't performatively hate Wuk Lamat enough to satisfy him.

>>725470664
They noticed her voice actor and started nitpicking every little thing the character did despite there being bad characters like Lyse who only got a fraction of this hate.

>>725470783
She gets the exact same criticisms in every other language, so you're gonna have to get a new cope.

>>725470547
It was quite bad. Zero was Wuk 1.0, everything about the void and warping between shards was rewritten so that story worked at all, absolutely nothing of note really happens and only exists because ITS DA FF4 EXPANSION. Just trash from start to finish.

>>725470642
Something I wonder now. If GC gears are still gonna be locked too. There’s some pieces I’d like to get from other GCs

>>725470783
Thats because Lyse was a fraction as bad as Wuk. She wasnt overpowered. She was defeated and scolded many times. She actually knew about her people despite being separated from it, the inverse of Wuk. Yeah she was a headstrong idiot just like Wuk but her development happened across a long period of time.

>>725470931
>everything about the void and warping between shards was rewritten so that story worked at all
New information that doesn't conflict with old information isn't a rewrite

>>725470664
the problem is not the content of wuk lamat's writing, its that the writing insists upon itself
wuk lamat is the main character of dawntrail because she HAS to be the main character of dawntrail
thats what makes it bad
look at pic rel and compare lyse's entire set of lines in 5 expansions compared to wuk lamat shooting to 2nd place in ONE XPAC
that is the problem

>>725470723
Crawl out of your own ass and find a real argument, you pompous faggot. You made a claim, that claim was blown out by actual data, and now you're just being a snarky vagueposting bitch about how it doesn't count and isn't real. Who the fuck raised you?

now we're xivving

>>725470969
Lyse is also barely present for half the story. She exists as a background prop during the whole Doma half.

>>725470859
The English speaking internet is a disproportionate amount of those "criticisms", graph-kun, in fact conversation about Wuk Lamat in general is very English focused and not for reasons of lingua franca

>>725471213
Surely if you just keep lying and making things up, people will like Wuk Lamat.

>>725470949
Probably so since GCs are still treated seriously despite being a vestigial feature since Heavensward

>>725471093
And to add to what you’re saying, Lyse departing the Scions was planned from the beginning with the end of base 4.0 when she announces it.
I miss that era of XIV. Really hate the constant world hopping and time travel slop it did from 5.0 on.
I said in a previous thread, I wish they only had one alternate world (Zodiark).

>>725470985
>the problem is not the content of wuk lamat's writing
Watch this cutscene dude.
https://youtu.be/rXAo73amjj8?t=14915

>>725471371
Graphs already didn't convince anybody, showing people the material they're discussing won't.

>>725471093
>2930 lines
oh my fuck

guys...you told me the game was dead...

>>725471482
Done vagueposting and ready to present an actual argument? Seems like you're only interested in denying reality, but maybe you'll put on your big boy pants and stop being a pompous faggot, who knows?

>>725471613
Very lucid post

>>725471546
Reading is cool I like it I (I do it all the time here despite some of you typing the most rancid shit Ive ever read) but yeah that's too fucking much,

>>725471567
Are the ddoses done by Weeb Police?

>>725471648
You claimed that dialogue count was the true problem with Dawntrail, and yet confronted with the reality that Wuk Lamat is the source of that extremely high dialogue count, you started flailing and babbling like a schizophrenic. Any thoughts on that?

>>725471778
>confronted with the reality
You are every /pol/ poster I've ever seen argue that thinks their opinion is objective reality and you ain't worth the shit under my shoe. First and only serious reply

>>725471764
the who?
why would they ddos a weeb game?

>log in
>want to play gaem
>nothing to do that is meaningful or fun, or both
>log out
it hurts

>>725471778
Nta of either anon, but both can be true.
DT was too long for what little it did, and Wuk had proportionally too many lines of that expansion.

>>725471764
I think it was SEAs that were DDOSing the game last, but these DDOS waves almost always follow a live-letter with good looking stuff now

>>725471867
Raw numbers collected from the game are not an opinion, they are objective reality.
>First and only serious reply
Your "serious reply" is just screaming about /pol/?

I dunno why you guys are even arguing. Its a combination of
>Bad voice acting (English only)
>Wuk as a character
>Her excessive word count
>The overall wordiness of the expansions lately as a whole
>Dawntrail/Tural being so safe

these threads are hilarious, 99% of the posts are people trying to cope

>>725471923
What would be meaningful?

Abel is defensive of Wuk not only because he's a furfag, but because he's attracted to male voices. Very funny stuff.

>>725472129
long term grinds for power? is this a bait question? the game is barely an MMO.

>>725472354
why not just do that in real life?

>>725472129
I enjoyed the transition from figuring out PT, clearing with matched party, then clearing solo. Rewards were good, queues quick, the content fun at the right difficulty. Don’t feel there’s anything similar right now. Previous DDs are ballaches, forked tower is self explanatory, and I don’t care to raid.

>>725472403
We play video games here.

>>725472403
>tranny DT defender gets BTFO, has no response.
sad, many such cases. I accept your concession nonetheless.

>>725472129
impregnating ryne

>>725459395
>>725459621
bruh

>>725472553
Those are randomized names via player tags

>>725472354
This aint WoW chud were past the archaic notions of 'grind'

>>725471778
Wuk having the vast majority of the lines in the story sucks
The story itself is basically nothing
The resolution for the story sucked
Tural is the most boring, toothless landmass on the entire planet unless they fuck up wherever we go next worse
The one possible point of contention with S9's culture is immediately glossed over because WE GOTTA BE FRIENDS
What little lore we had about the area beforehand, mainly the Mamool Ja is basically rewritten and any interesting points that come up are immediately wrapped up so we can have Wuk tall about friendship more.
Anything else that might cause even the slightest bit of conflict was solved by tacos 80 years ago
The entirety of the story is in service to propping up a character that had already fallen flat months prior to the expansions release in the endwalker post patch

The only thing Dawntrail really has going for it is that the areas outside of heritage found look nice and the arcadion raids are fun.

>>725472354
MMOs are playable chatrooms so ZIV fits the definition

>>725472707
>having nothing to do in game is....actually... LE GOOD!!!

>Fact 1
The Whalaqee are stated to live in a canyon area in the New World, near heavy ceruleum deposits.
>Fact 2
In the final quests of 6.5 you're sent to read about Tural ahead of your visit. In those readings you learn about Ketenramm, Valigarmanda, and the Whalaqee. Ketenramm and Valigarmanda are both MSQ relevant, but the Whalaqee are not in the MSQ.
>Fact 3
Though they aren't mentioned in the MSQ, Erenville does mention them. He says they live in Xak Tural and he'll tell you more about them later.
>Fact 4
Erenville in fact does join you in your venture into Xak Tural. Shaaloani is a canyon area with heavy ceruleum deposits, just like where the Whalaqee were stated to live.
>Fact 5
There is an unused town in the center of Shaaloani's map.
>Fact 6
The two wild west style towns in Shaaloani have architecture unlike anything else in Tural, but very similar to wooden Ul'dahn miner architecture seen in Central Thanalan.
>Fact 7
Turali people are largely illiterate, a plot point mentioned many times in the DoH role quests.
>Fact 8
The towns in Shaaloani are covered in Eorzean writing.
>Fact 9
Wuk Lamat's personality in 6.5 and in 7.0 do not match up. In 6.5 she is an experienced hunter, has trekked through Urcopacha before, and does not get seasick. In 7.0 she has never left the city and freaks out when she so much as steps on a boat. This indicates rewrites between 6.5 and 7.0.

Oh shit he's just shotgunning everything he can now.

Is it true that Lancslot lurks these threads for material?

>>725472875
hmmm...computer, extrapolate if we remove the kate golbez armor, what will the rate of the twelve demystification be?

>>725471567
>secret alt

>>725473013
Did you play Final Fantasy today?

How much do pentamelded sets typically go for on EU? I'm already fearing bankruptcy.

>>725473136
pentamelding is for discord tryhards.

>>725472081
>>Dawntrail/Tural being so safe
It's not even actually safe, it's just that for some reason they put in extremely serious and dire situations that then get solved by either the most insipid feel good solution that barely has the characters think about it, or the characters don't even think about it and just barrel through.

Like, the fucking eugenics experiments would be a horrifying plot point that marks a darker shift in the story in any other game. In DT? Lol seeds, lol Bakool is now good it's all water under the bridge. The problem is revealed with the severity it deserves, the reaction and then solution is not. The horror experiment that are the Endless in general? No consideration for whether they're alive and have a right to be alive, we just get told they're not so we just barrel through, even with extremely ambiguous scenes where you're not sure if the characters even get that they're not alive because they don't treat them like it but still make decisions as if they do get it. Wuk Lamat deciding we should befriend them while there's a doomsday countdown while the whole time also having zero doubts that they must die is just contradiction upon contradiction.

The fact that everyone talks about Tural as if it's paradise on earth and Gulool Ja Ja is a universally beloved and wise leader that keeps the peace, but every time you go somewhere you find some incredibly dangerous problem that he won't solve or doesn't know about is the best representation of the continent. It's a wierd mix of everyone pretending everything's perfect and nothing you actually see being even acceptable. Like you're witnessing ATLA's "There's no war in Ba-Sing-Se" scenes but it's completely unintentional by the writers and they genuinely don't realize there is a fucking war in Ba-Sing-Se.

>>725473050
I think he lurks them to spam them and maybe self-promote, but not necessarily for material. Part of the epic folder dump is a lot of AthenaAreia/Lanselot video thumbnails.

>>725473056
Big Coco, you risking another PT attempt today?

>>725473056
>golbez armor motivations are back
kino

>>725473257
naw. after losing my nearly full pomander run on floor 74 i'm a bit salty. if my challenge log clears go well next reset i might give it another shot

>>725473050
>>725473248
Talking to yourself today I see.

>>725473056
Computer, generate a "Final Fantasy XIV" thread on the Video Games board of 4chan. I have access to a computer in the Earth year of 2025 and will use it to browse this thread. Populate thread with a small number of more normal posters, along with one lalafell "avatarfag" and one particularly unhinged poster that strongly dislikes the game and will write lengthy posts justifying it using material from the "Reddit" forum platform and generative posts from the ChatGPT neural model contemporary to the time. Thread stagnation at 250% of normal values for Video Games board threads due to long-term activity of poster who dislikes the game. Disengage safety protocols and run program.

>>725473364
I don't even want to attempt my remaining challenge log floors because I have a healthy pomander stock from 51-70. It's annoying.

>>725430109
doing CE's already going to dissuade most people, and having to do yellow sidequests just to see her narrows down that selection even further
it's a neat moment, but i don't care enough about y'shtola to immediately cum over it

>>725473245
It doesnt matter if the Endless are sentient. You cant use other people's souls to keep your immortal vampires alive forever.

>>725473816
yeah. entered the 70s with a full stack of everything but strength and devotions, with 2 poisonfruits on hand. was fighting one of those alligator sineaters. they hit like trucks so i was doomed missing even a few actions, let alone a full LD. my biggest issue i feel in soloing is that i'm too cautious and i've lost a run to timing out on eminent grief before

>>725474615
Obviously not, but it's still something that should have gotten some more thought. At least Wuk having a crisis about it for fuck's sake.

>>725474615
It's very literally the Nobodies/Heartless/Human argument from Kingdom Hearts except for some reason XIV Loretists trip over the question a lot harder even with explicit answers whereas Kingdom Hearts Loretists aren't confused by the answer at all (no, individual components of a human blown up into their own being are not human even if they look it)

>>725474615
It's something that needed more attention since last expansion we determined that sapient disembodied memories do count as real people. Whether we had to shut it down or not, it's not something that should have been glossed over.

>>725474739
>(no, individual components of a human blown up into their own being are not human even if they look it)
The game disagreed with you last expansion, but you'd have to play the game to know that, wouldn't you Abel?

>>725474843
>sapient disembodied memories
*dynamis recreations of once-living aether lifeforms
only difference is they're not made of aether anymore but instead they're made of fantasy dark-matter, they are still alive in all traditional senses

>>725430109
I've actually not subscribed since 7.2. What's the scoop? Is it actually related to Y'shtola, or is it just a funny "Hey, here's another Rhul sister cameo" moment?

Threads last a long time now
It's kinda....funni

>>725474919
That's Kingdom Hearts' specific answer to the question
Average thread spammer's fourth grade reading ability, except even fourth graders don't get confused by Kingdom Hearts

>>725474938
another Y tribe miqote is working on the CE team. das it

>>725474938
Her sister is a Forum member who shows up in Phaenna.

>>725474919
This is just sophistry to make the robot do its job. The WoL doesnt actually know if they're sentient, they're just hopeful about it. An AI that thinks its human isn't a human even if it goes through the motions perfectly.

>>725475050
Oh, so it's literally nothing. There's been random Y tribe miqo'tes showing up through the game since ARR. In ShB you literally have a scene Y'shtola is present for next to one and they don't even acknowledge each other.

>>725475072
Is she's actually a Rhul though, or just Y?

>>725474934
>memory-based simulacrums are NOT real
>but OTHER memory-based simulacrums are

>>725474938
the latter
she's just a high ranking sharlayan official sent to oversee progress of the cosmic exploration initiative to see if it's a worthwhile use of time. she could've been replaced with fourchenault or any pre-existing high ranking forum members and nothing would change

>>725474919
Man, imagine speedreading posts to skip straight to the argument, and getting confused in the attempt.

>>725475184
>Is she's actually a Rhul though, or just Y?

>>725475187
>memory-based simulacrums
the dynamis crew are all full organisms as far as anybody can tell, not simulacrums

>>725475253
Any plans on ever playing the game you white knight daily?

>>725475279
Neat.

>>725475279
>12
plot twist coming soon

Even now, I'm still butthurt they made a significant section of EW be about the job mentors joining the Scions for an expedition, and they didn't have Y'mhitra in it.

>>725475386
>>725474919
>lose argument instantly
>squeal for abel to bail you out by providing a strawman
lmfao

>>725475481
doesn't really matter what he says until the game decides to explore whether they have souls, and they don't need a constant energy influx to survive that anybody is aware of, so it's not really possible to argue they're the same as an endless, at worst they're above the endless on the pinocchio scale of being a real boy

>>725475635
>and they don't need a constant energy influx to survive that anybody is aware of
Everything needs a constant aether influx to survive, most just take it in the form of food. 7.3 also revealed that the Living Memory system can be run on normal aether because muh soul aether actually isn't special at all.

>>725475729
>Everything needs a constant aether influx to survive,
you aren't arguing the same thing as i am at all, comparing the endless running on living souls to food intake is disingenuous
>7.3 also revealed that the Living Memory system can be run on normal aether because muh soul aether actually isn't special at all.
this didn't happen

>>725475806
>this didn't happen
It did. I'll find it for the next thread.

>>725475279
>our late father, Rhul
Guess we now know Shtola's dad is dead. Wonder if her mom is too and from what.