Thread 725429346

Theres nothing wrong with HFY power fantasy games is there?

>>725429346 (OP)
This is either porn, gore, or both

>>725429346 (OP)
Stop spamming your shitty furry webcomic in tyool 2025

>>725429346 (OP)
what is hfy?

>>725429346 (OP)
reading this shit was such a waste of time but I did it anyways.

>>725429346 (OP)
Stop shilling your shitty webnovel

>>725429346 (OP)
Name 3

>>725429346 (OP)
>decent story to start with
>devolves into "muh heccin gayyy lmao bf"

>>725429569
Nothing, what's HFY with you? Oh, wait.

humans in the role of the advanced space faring species making contact with a less advanced alien race is cool, it opens up a lot of opportunities that you don't normally get in scifi
"Humans are invincible terrifying predators from a death world and no one else in the universe has ever thought of inventing a decent weapon despite a thousand year technological head start" is cringe and stupid

>>725429346 (OP)
HOW MANY TIMES DO WE NEED TO SEE THIS THREAD

>>725429650
So is it porn or what?

>>725429346 (OP)
for me its humans+attractive ayys vs demons+ugly ayys

>>725429346 (OP)
wtf is this shit
buy an ad

>>725429705
>"Humans are invincible terrifying predators from a death world and no one else in the universe has ever thought of inventing a decent weapon despite a thousand year technological head start"
that's not what the story is about, but it's not much better than that either
in general, the grand narrative is kinda shit and full of holes, but the soft humane moments are pretty well written

>>725429468
>>725429750
Not porn.
>>725429650
Part 2 has some okay moments but you could tell the writer was REALLY phoning it in by the end.

>>725429346 (OP)
sorry, by OOP is my kind of furry-adjacent worldbuilding autism

>>725429650
>"the evil aliums are approaching, get ready to shoot"
>paragraph after paragraph of how the way the enemy ships are moving in a very predator way is making their instincts scream to shit and piss and cry
>"...and now we activate the thingamajig that wins the fight"
>oh mah gawd I can't decide if humans are EVIL or not for not shitting and pissing and crying like we would've done

Imagine going out into the vast reaches of space to find aliens and only discover weak frail things you could snap in half easily.

Cruel

>>725430207
also not how it went

>>725429346 (OP)
What about YFH?

>>725429705
>>725430207
>>725430235
there has to be SOMETHING that would make us special in the eyes of an interstellar community, right?

https://arch.b4k.dev/v/search/image/67fY4O4ljLTFOD3x0z6HEg/
I will NOT be reading your masturbatory fic.

>>725430364
Nowhere else in the universe has blueberry inflation porn, because they don't have blueberries, or Willy Wonka.

>>725430178
Based

>>725430479
>the entirety of the human race in an alien's eyes is reduced to blueberry inflation
Grim.

The yearning for extraterrestrial intelligent life disgusts me. Not just because it relies upon an incalculable, hopelessly-small chance of something akin to mankind developing in similar conditions within reach of us— the likelihood of these numerous factors all spontaneously coming into existence is laughably small, as any mathematician will tell you— but because those who pray for such "alien life" to be discovered do so for the same litany of reasons that make mankind such a repugnant species in the first place, one that would certainly repel otherworldly organisms just as reliably as it would any other spectator entity. This hunger for aliens is yet another ignoble consequence of the innate human desire to discover and ruin, again and again, no different from the pig or the locust. You will seldom find any extraterrestrial enthusiast who speaks of their perverse alien fetish without the additional, overt desire to include the other litany of human tortures within the tangle of these alien lives. Not just overt victimization (which would certainly come to pass) but all of it, all the things that contempt inevitably blossoms from. The twisted way in which human beings wish to pull aliens into their orbit of suffering is nothing short of evil, derived from that inherent impulse to want to ruin something so pristine, untouched, perhaps as close to "innocent" as one may find.

>>725429346 (OP)
>HFY
more like HMOAF

>>725429346 (OP)
The true HFY "experience" is if you had the aesthetics of Helldivers but the gameplay of You Have to Cut the Rope.

>>725430921
my alien protagonists are insectoids who have won the evolutionary race and are slowly taking over the galaxy by being impeccable engineers and theorists
now what

>>725429346 (OP)
They're not going to eat or rape it?

>>725430364
Our capacity for certain psychic phenomena and the occult I would imagine

>>725431159
no, but evil alien lizards gladly would

>>725429346 (OP)
I've seen this pic so many times now I've gotta know, is this gay porn? Snuff?

>>725431342
yes

>>725431159
it's wholesome species chauvinism
(just a SFW tip of a degenerate iceberg
why would they spam it here otherwise)

humans are the indians/brazilians of the galaxy.

>>725431365
Yes to which one?

>>725430364
Earth is near the upper limits for gravity that traditional rocketry can escape from. We're unironically heavy worlders, any heavier planet isn't going to be able to leave for centuries later than we could.
But if you want general sci-fi stuff you can either do psychic powers, sheer numbers, or the migration and siege mentalities we have that let us tough out the most bullshit of circumstances. A human ship will have double the number of crewmen than an ayy equivalent because of sheer ability to put up with "unlivable" conditions by their standards

>>725431403
both

>>725431342
No.
just ai lewd fanart posted last thread

>>725431365
>yes
WHAT DOES IT MEAN

>>725431742
that it's gay as fuck and a lot of animals die

>>725431742
this is a (pretty long) webseries about humans ending up one of the few meat-eating species in the galaxy after discovering FTL travel and now they can't look at them the wrong way without making them shit themselves because canines, eyes and all that.
it's kinda okay at the beginning and has a lot of cute (and also very cruel) moments but after like 1/3 the way in it just becomes a slog too focused on character relationships

>THE HECKING HUMANS EAT CHILI PEPPER FOR FUN
>AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH IM GOING INSANE
>SAVE ME NIGGER MAN

What a waste of time this bs was.

All alien women should lust after human dick.

>>725432176
there a good ai chatbot about this

>>725432229
link?

>>725429468
Worse. It's a rationalfic.

>>725429346 (OP)
>Theres nothing wrong with HFY power fantasy games is there?
there is no scientific why the HFY premise is any worse than the usual preachy shit libshits like to push, tranoids getting angry, conflating HFY = white supremacy, should tell you that much when it's just political honry furries

>>725432345
*apolitical horny furries

>>725432273
https://janitorai.com/characters/211ac652-d19b-4b06-a0ab-65f91a3d1900_character-do-you-come-in-peace

>>725431917
What's the name of it if you don't mind? It seems like a spooky read

>>725432345
Ironically, rightoids find HFY as a promotion of globalism since it implicitly includes 'all' of humanity and tells you to respect niggers because they can spit or something equally stupid.
It's just one of those things that sounds corny and out-of-touch that promotes a Pre-Great Reset mindset when there wasn't two irreconcilable worldviews dividing the world in half.

>>725430364
I don't have the pasta but I am reminded of the post an anon made that human males sling the best dick in the animal kingdom due to most other animals being built to just shoot n' scoot due how vulnerable they are while they bang so they make it quick

>>725432482
it's really not, but fine
nature of predators

every time i see this image, i keep thinking it's the kratt brothers

Ahem...
Botanics.

>>725430364
the indomitable human willy and their desire to stick it inside the nearest warm hole

>>725432550
>not sharing the xeno-boipussi with fellow brown bros
c'mon

>>725432608
wtf

What finally snapped me out of the self-flagellation ritual of reading Star Trek as written by Reddit was having the defrosted FBI agent's side story conclude with him being interviewed by a fucking non-binary podcaster.
>inb4 paying for a bonus chapter
I got this shit off Kemono.Party and I can confidently state it's the biggest load of wank on the site.

>>725430364
Why do you start from the position that we are worthless to begin with, that's the classic post WW2 (((liberal))) conditioning that taught you to hate yourself and your culture as a white man.

>>725432682
If my setting has the technology to meet aliens then I expect all brown "bros" to be exterminated decades ago.

>>725432829
and its still one of the better xeno fucker stories out there is the worst bit
utterly ridiculous how shit writers are nowadays

>>725432176
isn't this implying that it's humans who lust after alien woman dick?

>>725430364
The power of the human dick.
>That one series of images where an XCOM Viper becomes addicted and tricks her entire squad into becoming addicted as well

>>725432887
mayhap the blacks, but keep the browns that are just products of being COLONIZED

>>725432887
Okay buddy, I'm still waiting to see your epic science fiction setting where "your" people won the (race) war.

>>725433006
>>725432630
>>725432563
>muh dick
c'mon guys...
to be fair the last guy is getting somewhere

>>725433150
You mean white people? That already happened, the lunar landing crew didn't have any browns in it.

>>725433006
You can't just say that without linking it.
>>725433164
>human supremacy is le SHITTED
Go back to /ptfg/.

Fuck you robot.

o n-

>>725433164
Maybe someday you'll get it.

>>725433365
whats this?

>>725433150
Euros already won the planet by 1900's, the current collapse is from their infighting and losing confidence, nonwhites either adapted to Western (white) standards like East Asians or are just parasites like you.

>>725433201
NASA will probably send black women to Mars, nigs and women can better withstand cosmic rays for various biological reasons, also it's something a pozzed nation like USA would love to do

>>725432345
>>725432550
Is it too much to ask for all of humanity to forget all of our present problems and unite together under the promise of flexing on ET?

>>725429346 (OP)
Is it true that the retard who wrote this turned the goat boy into a retard because he hated him so much?

>>725433486
If the aliens are bad, we can unite to fight them.
If the aliens are good, they can help us rid ourselves of the bad parts of humanity.

>>725433486
not gonna happen unless ET strikes first and fails to go the whole way

>>725433486
irl it'll happen of course
but in current fiction, no
the left dominates the media and demands that everything be seen through an intersectional lens

>>725433521
If, after following these herbivorous cocksuckers (sadly figurative) around for several million words, you don't want to see them suffer, you might just have brain damage yourself.

>>725433521
why the hate, the pussi too good?

>try to read this
>every single line of dialogue is like it was written and spoken by a child
I'm not expecting wonders or anything but this is verging on shounen dialogue with how blatantly they're just saying the next line of the story instead of what a person might say

>>725430178
Zased

>>725433648
Writing in porn is like a story in video games, it's expected to be there, but it's not that important.

>>725429346 (OP)
>sci fi setting
>the United Nations is a world government

>>725431421
>A human ship will have double the number of crewmen than an ayy equivalent because of sheer ability to put up with "unlivable" conditions by their standards

This is how I play my space games. Bigger ships with bigger guns. Fancy lasers and fast ships are for gay aliens.

>>725430364
I like the idea of humans as the high speed vehicle race, running around in our cars at speeds anybody else would crash at

>>725433795
>SF setting
>clearly the dystopia we're all obviously heading towards
too real?

>>725431421
That was even the basis for John Carter. Mars had much lower gravity than Earth in those stories so he was like a superman in their environment.

>>725430364
we're naruto, obviously
and make the xeno species you want to fuck the most be sasuke

>>725430364
I like the idea that we can tell apart shapeshifters due to the uncanny valley. I think it's a neat niche without being OH MY FUCKING GOD HUMANS CAN SURVOVE AFTER STUBBING TOE????

>>725433976
That's a neat one, could potentially expand that with recent developments into being the ai image/video detection race

>>725430235
The worst I've ever seen is OMG HUMANS DRINK WATER?!?

>>725433976
uncanny valley is a result of natural selection filter that lets us judge how healthy other members of our species are
some animals also have it
something as fundamental as this would definitely be instrumental to upbringing of a spacefaring civilization so they wouldn't just breed ten million retards with alien down syndrome who are just functional enough to survive but nothing else

>>725434189
The best i've ever seen is lmao humans boil water

>>725430007
>pic
God, remember when the author had to put a disclaimer about not being pro-Christianity before his religious bonus chapter? Though it is kind of funny he made the priest a predator.

>>725430878
>they like it

>>725433859
The dystopia we are heading towards (well, already in actually) would not be some capable SF polity capable of space exploration, let alone capable of putting up a fight against other galactic empires. It will be a global brazilian favela of 85 IQ total racial entropy goycattle ruled by a totally degenerated elite who are barely sapient themselves. The timeline where we conquer the stars is one where the UN, and every ideology and impulse associated with it, is annihilated.

>>725429346 (OP)
>>725430007
if the thing in the middle doesn't get brutally spitroasted why would i care about whatever this is???

>>725434281
>first contact plays out like blueberryinflationanon meeting the Willy Wonka guy

>>725434389
>first contact is quickly followed by the great commission

>>725430235
Yeah that's the worst side of hfy writings and primarily a reddit feature because they have no redeeming qualities or strong convictions. Actually entertaining hfy stuff is about taking an introspective look at our most outstanding cultural and sociological traits, the ones informed but not defined by our biology, and seeing how we consider those qualities, both the great and terrible, to define us as a people.
Not about wanking that
>bro we can run for a really long time
even when the individual writing it couldn't run a mile but instead
>strong men marched an army of elephants over a goddamned mountain top out a burning need for victory
Examining what drives men to accomplish such monumental feats that we almost normalize because of our familiarity with them and how we would repeat them, in essence, again and again in front of aliens who have no context for it.

>>725429346 (OP)
that drawing looks like shit if it's yours OP you should kill yourself you have no taste or talent

>>725434190
If you want to actually be realistic about it you have to write about weaknesses, not strengths. Most spacefaring races will share roughly the same features, but only humans have their monstrosity of a neck/spine configuration that causes endless neck and back problems and can cause instant death if you fall slightly wrong. Compared to other animals you'd stat it as like an increase to critical damage taken or something.

Like there's no way a race of quadrupeds with no thumbs or eyes is going to make it to space, I'm sorry. Being a biped is more space efficient, you need thumbs to make tools, eyes are absurdly important for tool making too, etc. Every space race is going to be some variety of differently-coloured human with like, ankles that just fucking explode sometimes.

>one of my favorite Nature of Predators fanfics was close to the end
>author made it sound like he was about to upload a bunch of the remaining chapters in fairly quick succession
>no posts in almost two years
He's dead, isn't he?

>>725434672
and octopuses

>>725434808
Yes, and onaholes.

>>725433007
Harry is such an embarrassment, I really enjoyed how the media here rolled out the red carpet for Meghan all because she was black and they kept saying it was going to 'modernise' the modern family only for the entire country to turn against her and for Harry and Meghan to fuck off to Canada and then the U.S. and be exiled there and have their titles removed.

>>725434808
Octopodes are far shittier on land when they lose out on all leverage. The tentacle is a superior manipulator to a hand but comes with loads of downsides of having no bones.

>>725433648
Specifically, all the dialogue reads like children who are either having manic episodes or doing a lot of coke. The only reason to read Nature of Predators is to have context for the fanfics that are much better written, and you can probably just read a summary to get what you need there

>>725434323
Have faith anon, I'm sure the (((UN))) will harness the innovations of the remaining white population to launch a space-faring communist interstellar empire.

>>725434954
you've reminded me of the epic shitflinging on thrive forums about whether theoretical sapient underwater species with fine manipulators could use geothermal vents to extract and forge iron

>>725434951
kek.
Look at his eyes as he gaze upon what they just spawned into the earth.

>>725433648
>>725434964
it's online amateur fiction, you have to give some allowance for people willing to start on their writing journey, professional writers are not born perfect, you have to start somewhere

>>725434785
his mom probably saw his works and sent him to the military.

This is making me want to play a campaign in Aurora 4X with multiple human factions starting from Earth...

>>725435256
>to them the atmosphere is as deadly as the vacuum of space
neat

>>725435256
That does sound ridiculously autistic
>could use geothermal vents to extract and forge iron
Gut feeling i'm going to say no, water would transfer the heat way more to the smith than air does so even if it could get hot enough to work everyone working it is dead or can never leave the vents in the first place
Not that it matters because cooking food is the first, more important step.

>>725435369
There's "not perfect" and there's
>“The aliens are friendly, except for one species. That species is at war with the rest of the galaxy, and they’re quite the formidable foe. They wiped out 62 worlds, and fighting them has cost billions of lives.”

>“They destroyed 62 planets…by themselves?! Jesus Christ. Please, tell me you’re kidding.”

>“I wish, sir. There’s a full brief on the page labeled ‘Arxur’ in your file. There’s also footage of them committing every war crime in the book. I mean, they literally eat children.”

>“Shit. Let’s face it: we’re barely spacefaring. We need to hammer out alliances with the other aliens, pronto. I want every diplomat relegated to this project.”

I would be ashamed of writing this at 14

>>725433795
Worked in Alpha Centauri. Lal's faction maintained the U.N. Charter.

I just finished a cup of joe, am I a cosmic superbeing?

>>725429705
counterpoint: aboriginal tech level vs european tech level before meaningful contact

>>725430178
Agreed

>>725435575
short answer is no
to know the long answer, you'd have to go through about a decade of posts of one of the most discussed topics in the history of the game up until it got officially banned because there are like two dozens of different reasons of why underwater sapient society has a nearly zero chance of ever arising in the first place

>>725434265
to be fair, we DO love boiling water

>>725435351
He's addicted to cocaine, he was caught buying in London on one of his recent trips to London. He dismissed his security and was caught on a Ring camera trying to buy drugs.
Sounds ridiculous right? Yet it's true.

>>725429346 (OP)
Thats the most reddit shit imaginable

Laundered and whitewashed masculine power fantasies, no more icky racism or sexism with aliums
>>725429547
Turns out it was some gay shit as well, in addition to all the gay redditism

>>725435670
It's pretty bad.
But this kind of case is the only situation where it's appropriate to say:
You should write some yourself if you think you can do better.

>>725435945
it's mostly an excuse for porn, I'll allow it

>>725435832
About what I estimated
A sapient species developing primitive civilization in the first place is already a long shot, adding on being completely aquatic makes all those core requirements so much harder its not funny.

>>725435773
counterpoint to what?

So, can anyone recommend decent hfy?

>>725436469
The Last Human.

It's like Camp of the Saints, but in space.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WzZ7pimxjhE&t=2s

>>725436469
I recall enjoying deathworlders for what it was up until it switched to following the story of several tumblr sexuality aliens instead

>>725436096
how did i do?
https://pastebin.com/PtaSHPSZ

>>725432829
You are talking on op novel?

>>725430364
If it would be anything it should be our hands and shoulders.

I renember seeing a hfy video. And unironically flexing humans boundless beast ability to...not die after getting hit with a baseball ball....lol

>>725435670
Wow.

>>725435670
just get ai to rewrite it, lol

>>725436814
No dude you don't understand, we're PERSISTENCE HUNTERS that means we can run for TENS OF MINUTES without being tired. That, on top of our ability to throw things accruately, means aliens would be absolutely terrified of u-

>instantly atomized by relativistic rod entering atmosphere at four fifths the speed of light

>>725437172
Hey, throwing rock gud is a skill that never stops being useful
There's always a bigger rock to throw and a better way to throw it.

>>725437172
cixin liu addresses this
his answer is that the greatest power humanity has is sexism and that giving women power will instantly murder billions

>>725437172
I tanked that thanks to my indomitable human spirit.

>>725436408
>no one else in the universe has ever thought of inventing a decent weapon despite a thousand year technological head start

If humans got FTL, we'd treat the rest of the Universe like Columbus did to the natives, don't kid yourselves.

>>725437354
I maintain that most anti-chinese racism is a cope for them elevating themselves while we flounder and degrade, and while most of them are "bugmen," that applies to every race on earth, including my own. Three Body Problem is one of the few pieces of literature written this century that is worth remembering after the decade it was written. "Savages" is also really impressive sci fi from china.

https://youtu.be/G0UfFNpOsxw?si=bUQ9AnCqpQGXodOa

All my racism for the chinese really comes down to how they treat the environment, really.

>>725437742
Columbus was based and had a superior culture to the savages. The Age of Sail was the spiritual peak of human civilization. What's the problem here, exactly?

>>725437824
get space AIDS and die

>>725437765
>All my racism for the chinese really comes down to how they treat the environment, really.
pray you never have to work with them

>>725437439
that would be the first part, humans in the role of the more advanced species.
The other part was about the common thing where humans get treated like unique and terrible because we are capable of violence and every other advanced species is some herbivore pacifist that invented space travel before inventing a gun.
Abos abosolutely knew what violence was and how to use it, if they ever figured out technology more advanced than sticks and fire they would have been killing each other as efficiently as possible just like every other kind of human.

You're going to drop the title or not? I want to taste it for myself now.

>>725438240
>is some herbivore pacifist that invented space travel before inventing a gun.
Space jews genetically engineered them to be giant pussies with a genetic fear of carnivores
Unironically what happened in NoP

>>725429346 (OP)
>no Venlil bf
[Screams into the void]

>>725430364
We are experts in the occult. This is not a good thing.

>>725437742
>>725437857
that could be an interesting point.
what if alien civilizations were generally scared of each other because of the threat of infection from an alien pathogen, meaning that even a small vessel landing on your planet could mean a planet-wide crisis?

The HFY in Mass Effect is comical. Based on how well mankind has integrated into a galactic civilization that has been around for 3000 years, you would think humans have been a part of it for AT LEAST a century. Nope, they've carved out a large chunk of the galaxy for themselves and becoming an economic power within 25 years. There are trillions of others, and only 12 billion of us, yet you see humans everywhere. Like, for Shepard, the first contact war with the Turians was as far in the past as 9/11 is for us.

>>725438240
The far more important part is that any means to go from one system to another is also a grossly powerful weapon
You don't even have to write your aliums as being particularly belligerent or even violent when by virtue of being capable of reaching humanity, they're able to wipe it out

>>725438354
read the thread, the title has been mentioned

>>725438628
it's just copying Star Trek, down to fuckable alien chicks

>>725438574
The physiology would likely be so different that diseases would simply not transfer. I doubt you could eat any alien food, the structure and chemistry of the cells would not have an earth analog.

>>725433521
Not just a retarded, but so mentally broken and with most of his memories scrubbed that he was basically reset all the way back to his very beginning-of-the-story self and could hardly function. Then Part 2 pretty much offhandedly states he got worse and died, and his human partner went utterly bugshit nuts trying to find a way to "bring him back".

Shit was depressing.

>>725434485
you wouldn't do a hannibal either and it was definitely an idiotic move that exhausted themselves just to sow chaos.

>>725434485
I liked the one where ayylum doctor was terrified how human who lost his arm was saying that his new si-fi prosthetic is awesome.

>>725436469
Wearing Power Armor To Magic School.

>>725429346 (OP)
The best part of Nature of Predators is, instead of humans being a capitalism race who loves annihilating ecosystems for the next quarterly report, our understanding of ecology and love for nature is unique among races. I love the idea of us being space druids who maintain at least one massive wildlife preserve on every planet and moon, and not just as a zoo or a place to farm meat.

>>725430364
No if your assumption is that humans aren't exceptional. You can find animals on earth that outperform humans in anything aside from collective knowledge, which another technological society would also excel at.

>>725438628
Its extremely chauvinistic. And played totally straight

I'm only interested in the Pinwheel Universe

>>725438730
they don't need to be biologically compatible to cause harm, their bodies or ecology can be made of chemicals that can damage human beings... just open an organic chemistry book

>>725438795
>you wouldn't do
So? I'm not writing a story about myself in my average wage slave life
>idiotic move
Hey buddy, hot tip for ya: a lot of famous shit done by great generals/leaders is actually pretty fucking stupid if it didn't work out but it did so it isn't. If Caesar hadn't finished his double walls, or had run out of supplies before finishing the siege, he'd be a gigantic fucking retard.

>>725438730
i mean, would you take the risk, if you were on the planetary UN-equivalent council?
at best, for two civilizations to establish contact they would have to have some sort of controlled lab environment where they test every single pathogen and how they interact with every form of flora or fauna on the planet, which is frankly kinda ridiculous to think about.

>oh yeah, our dog-people can't share pathogens when the insects-people it's all good
>insect people land on the planet
>the give the sniffles to the not-bees
>entire ecosystem collapses

>>725430364
Hear me out: humans are not "rugged individualists" but basically seen as groups of competing hiveminds. Like, our capability to conform to groupthink or fall prey to psychological warfare and do what we are told by our leaders without resistance is seen as legitimately insane. The idea of WW1 occuring, us gathering by the millions to gun eachother down on trench lines, call a Christmas truce for a day, share gifts and play with eachother, and then immediately getting back to industrial slaughter the morning after is absolutely bugfuck crazy. Naturally, once we learn of how the psychology of other alien races work, we should be able to fuck with their minds using a million psyop techniques that they would have never even considered before. Humans are mindfucked, and mindfuckers. Total cognito-hazard.

>>725438908
Oh yeah, there was a scene where teddy bear race was giving hummies a planet to settle and they were like
>here you are guys, we are almost ready to glass it for ya, just give us a minute
And hummies were like what the fuck
Funny stuff

>>725439281
Even as hannibal succeeded in his goal of bypassing the roman forces and occupying northern italy, it failed in the greater goal of using his troops to defeat Rome while Fabius bogged him down until he was forced to retreat because he left north africa undefended. Circumvallation meanwhile is universally agreed as a vital aspect of maintaining a siege.

>>725436469
>>725438826
seconded, though it falls for 'le endurance hunter' myth
Then there's Assignment Risk, They are Smol and Hunter or Huntress, all of which don't do the 'humans are le perfect lifeform' shit

The guys writing and/or enjoying these stories balk at any sort of sexual chauvinism. They have a strong aversion to cultural chauvinism, and especially racism- any sort of white supremacy is a big no no

Instead they write these stories where some reddit factoid about the human body is taken as proof of biological superiority as compared to pathetically depicted aliens who are made of plasticine and broken dreams

Its hack writing. Genuine slop.

>>725439613
Rome was a very hardy society. Very virile and could absorb the costs of war.

The Carthaginians could not, mostly due to political reasons. They had no will to fight a protracted battle - the reliance on large mercenary armies already proves this.

That Hannibal inflicted serious damage on the Romans with all those negative factors surrounding him was the real feat.

You could say the carthaginians didn't deserve his genius.

>>725434384
In fairness the things that Slanek does in this series are way fucking gayer than a m/m/m spitroast

>>725430364
>A weird number of responses are "oh we do the occult"
What is this samefag gibberish? The occult is nonsense for mentally ill people and psychic powers aren't real. Why are we being inundated with retarded spergs from /x/?

>>725439845
I can agree with that. I think Hannibal is overrated when it comes to war but he was a very capable general.

>>725439715
The concept itself is inherently speciest and racist, nice try tran-oid.

>>725430364
it's basically the same as asking "is there anything that makes the french special in the eyes of the rest of the world"
Assuming the other spacefaring civilizations aren't so far ahead of us that any comparison is pointless, like trying to find something chimps are better at than people, there will be things that humanity considers itself to be good at as a culture or a people, that we might develop a reputation for or get value from, and equally there will be negative stereotypes. Frenchies are a bunch of rude snobs that make great cheese and wine but it would be really stupid if you were designing earth as a setting to make no one else ever get good at fermenting dairy and grape juice or be dicks to each other, and it would be equally stupid if every single frenchman was a rude cheesemonging vintner, at least if you're trying to be realistic.

There's nothing inherently wrong with having scifi species separated by gimmicks and specialties, it's basically a staple of the genre that the warrior race is warlike, the space jews are tricky and jewish etc, but usually that comes with humans being the default perspective race that has all the depth and complexity of individuals instead of a species superpower anyway.

is the anon with the hot venlil sloppa around?

>>725439613
>Circumvallation
Is the process of setting up with the purpose of warding off the defender's attempts to shake you loose
The second wall he built around alesia was the purpose of defending himself against relief forces
>failed
Because rome was a society capable of losing tens of thousands of troops and still immediately raising new armies. That doesn't make Hannibal's march and his following actions any less impressive as a tactical feat.
And all this is getting away from the operative point that men can do impressive shit, even just in every day life that gets forgotten about, which could seem almost mythical to an ayy
The idea of some random schmuck risking, or outright losing, his life for some alien he doesn't know and expects no compensation from simply because he thinks its the right thing to do is a narrative opportunity. Same is the reverse, the idea of torching an entire city to the ground in front of our allies for various ignoble reasons scarcely covered up by pragmatism can create interesting interactions.

>>725432275
>>725429468
It's not a rationalfic, it's just the most basic fic about HFY ever. Humans are special because all others species in the universes evolved from preys, and we're predators, so all species instantly believe we're psychopaths who will barbecue them. Our smile sends signals to preys (aka all the species in the entire universe) that we want to eat them for dinner.

It's also furry as fuck, in between sucking mankind's dick. It's all about fucking the cute rabbit girl and how the cute rabbit girl learns that the scary humans aren't that scary.

It's not a good fic, by any measure.

>>725429346 (OP)
>Theres nothing wrong with HFY power fantasy games is there?
Yeah, sure, it's a little bit of spice. If you give me a good reason why mankind is FUCK YEAH, then yes, reading about mankind T posing over all extraterrestrial is a fun concept, and a fun reading. It's not a hugely new concept, but it's a bit of harmless fun.

I've read more than 100 HFY stories. Most of them are garbages, some of them are good.

>>725440263
contravallation* I originally meant to elaborate on both.

>>725430364
earths genetic diversity would be interesting to anyone, there are lots of niche solutions to various survival problems to be found here.
it depends on the nature of those that discover us though. there is a decent chance that alien life is just a brain in a tube orbiting a star, or traveling to others.

>>725440152
omg he's so hot

Grass Eaters is way better than Nature of Predators.

>>725430235
>>725430364
>>725431167
>>725438564
>>725438972
See >>725440254
>>725439310
This is actually a neat concept, and a nice take on "inherent flaw/weakness makes them exceptionally dangerous"

>>725437172
Any dingus with a spaceship can do one of those or be annihilated by one, how does that make anyone stand out?

>>725430364
We're the first one that were able to evolve in the very infancy of the universe, under one of the youngest generation 2 star needed for life. We're basically already the Precursors.

Our Moon is also special and likely one in a billion chance in the galaxy (which means there are quite a few planets with the same moon).

That's it in universal term.

>>725438757
>Then Part 2 pretty much offhandedly states he got worse and died
PHHAHHAHAHAHAHAH
Fucking imagine if in LOTR first book someone said like yea Bilbo fucking eat shit and died hahahahah

>>725440832
imagine going to proxima centauri and finding out that humans are even older than our sun

>>725435670
Please don't tell me this is from an actual, published work.

>>725440602
>Wait, you guys don't tell ghost stories?

>>725438972
That is just gay "elfs are better than humans at everything". Two wrongs don't make a good.

>>725432275
World building kino....what is the first rational fic anyways
>inb4. Space battles

>>725430235
Peak tumblr writing

>>725430364
Nah.
Any other sentient race is going to be just as good at interfacing with tools, keeping off broken legs, mass hysteria and warmongering. Any alien interaction is probably going to end up like the Cortez Conquistador saga, where we get taken for rubes and used as shock troopers by various nations in exchange for cash and pussy, and any real damage is going to be some virus shit we didn't even want to happen.

>>725436673
it's not quite a 400 chapter webnovel so it's quite hard to compare

>>725441325
A Harry Potter fic.

In this Harry Potter loudly mock magic because the Langrangian of Quantum Field Theory doesn't allow for more energy under the Laplace transformation, and also he slaps Hermione because she's just a dumb bitch who is just there for her hypergamy to kick in and be fucked by a real man. Which, I can get behind slapping Hermione, the second concept is appreciable, but I dunno about Langrangians in Harry Potter.

More seriously, it's an absolutely insufferable fic about Harry being absolutely insufferable for far too many words that somehow garnered enduring attention.

>HFY thread did not devolve into 90% offtopic /pol/niggery
What miracle is this?

>>725441653
we can start now if you want

>>725429346 (OP)
i couldnt give a shit about HFY trash which is always gay as fuck circlejerking for retards, i just wanted context for the furshit
just give me good furry star trek please

>>725441653
the tr.0.0n went to sleep

>>725441653
America is in bed for school atm

Sex with Vysith and Isif

>>725441980
Porn is alwasy better with story and lore.

>>725442264
i agree, that's why i want good furry star trek
the OP story was close in concept but HFY and the overall bad quality of writing brought it down hard

>>725440080
Its not racist though, because it has the most basic ass biology differences as the factor to be racist about. Instead of more impactful and real issues of behavior, culture etc. these things are sanitized from the works - a way for redditors to be "safe racist", "safe supremacist" without actually saying anything about how society should be run.

The guys enjoying hfy all disliked the depiction of humans in starship troopers, because it was fascist etc etc

>>725430364
Humans are the most powerful psykers in the galaxy, but only in small numbers or unified belief. Humans have an immense presence in the noosphere, far greater than any other species, and are capable of bending reality from making themselves just strong enough to overcome a challenge or outright fabricating/"summoning" their own gods, but if multiple humans of with different worldviews are close together, the human psychic gestalt weakens because they don't agree on anything and their noospheric presences are in conflict.
This is exactly how humans still remember the name of Alexander the Great and Goliath but names like Patton fail to occupy the same space; because when the global population was like one million, every individual man commanded so much passive psychic presence they were superhuman and heroic despite being less physically fit than modern man.
On Earth with a population of twenty billion, this is a horrible state of affairs because no human has enough space to change anything about the world around them. It's painfully mundane and humanity believes they are worthless. But it's a different story in space. And a horror story for the lone survivor of a destroyed space vessel that was saved by aliens making first contact. He unwittingly psychically conceived and conjured an entire new alien species because he was scared and confused.

>>725435828
kek

>>725442264
The story and lore should actually matter though, possibly be able to stand on its own two feet, otherwise its just wasting time before getting to the smut

>>725440375
>It's all about fucking the "cute" rabbit girl
Trashcanned. Female protagonist slop can go die.

>>725441546
The absolute worst I've ever read. What an obnoxious pile of garbage.

>>725440375
>I've read more than 100 HFY stories.
Give us like 3 bestg ones

>>725430364
Humans are the best when it comes to endurance. We may not be the fastest nor strongest animals, but we can run and use our muscles for longer periods of time over the majority of the animal kingdom. So humans in some space rpg would have endurance as the defining trait.

>>725443978
nta but hoh

>>725440993
>Every other alien species just chills with ghosts

>>725434672
>Like there's no way a race of quadrupeds with no thumbs or eyes is going to make it to space, I'm sorry. Being a biped is more space efficient, you need thumbs to make tools, eyes are absurdly important for tool making too, etc. Every space race is going to be some variety of differently-coloured human with like, ankles that just fucking explode sometimes.

You have no understanding of how evolution fucking works you retard. It is not a process that maximizes efficiency or creates what is the most optimal. Our humanoid form is a product of path dependency that started from our most ancient fish ancestors who happened to be quadrapeds that later evolved into aboreal animals and only after that descended back to ground.

Even on this fucking planet we can see non humanoid animals that posses intelligence, social organization and very primitive tool use. The notion that all sapient civilization building life has to be humanoid is pure athropocentricism and narcisistic thinking that we are somehow the pinnacle of life.

>>725443890
It was made for 14 year olds during the atheist phase of the internet. It was a different time.

What makes humans unique is that they can generate a disproportionate amount of suffering and stupidity.
Basically, humans and earth is an interstellar liveleak.

Humans fuck the longest
Give alien wife

>>725444564
more like earth is haunted

>>725444860
>we are the worst!
calm down leddit
it's just as cringe and unlikely as thinking you are the best

>>725441157
That was the point of my post, yes. If you don't make your humans exceptional they're going to lose to fictional races that are exceptional by their nature.

>>725444915
>humans are interstellar rapefugees
Now we are talking....

>>725432176
This is literally half the premise of Out Of Cruel Space.

At least be honest about it and admit it's just gooner shit

>>725445154
They're coming to us, that makes us interstellar Thailand

>>725445206
Do you see anyone hiding it?

zoomers truly are a joyless generation

I vaguely remember a short story where humans encountered a single member of a hyper individual species that didn't even need others of their own species. The main thing was the humans and the entity trying to understand how the other could develop at all.

>>725445154
Species with open border policies would go extinct on a timescale that is geologically insignificant.

>>725435670
Don't forget the Arxur are literal Dindus, they only eat babies because (((THEY))) engineered their existence to deprive them of proper food, and instead of developing the means to cultivate artificial meat, they devolved into retard space tribes who kidnap and eat sapients instead.

>>725430364
I like how Ur Quan Masters and Guild Wars handle it. Humans are another race in settings where every race is distinct, and treated equally in that context. They aren't all rounders nor are they uniquely special. In UQM, they're defined by being industrialized. Their technology isn't better but they were able to reach the space age very quickly once it became necessary and they were good at mass production compared to other space species. It exaggerated our industrial age. In GW, which is fantasy, humans are defined by their relationship to religion. They're favored by the gods but not better for it, and get the unique ability to channel them to compete with races that were better at magic or could turn into animals.

>>725445529
I get the same sort of deep moral sophistication from the story as I do this picture (and the manga it's laughing at, but that isn't as funny)

>Galaxy is full of alien bimbos with huge tits and ass
>Male to female ratio is 1 to 100 due to space magic bullshit
>Space magic bullshit means newly uplifted species skip explosives/kinetics and go straight to laser/plasma
>Human men are pheromone machines that reduce alien women into drooling puddles needing to get fucked
>Human delegation out of our shithole region of space that doesn't have space magic form their own government because fuck earth politics lmao
>Proceed to enlist/ally with alien goddesses, clans, and warlords n shit via the power of dick
>Spend a worrying number of chapters focusing on slaughtering alien pedophiles in extremely graphic and detailed ways
Out of Cruel Space is the only good HFY story.

>>725445504
I can alwasy clone more humans at the moon base.

>>725445742
Sounds like your average redditard fantasy, especially the thing about killing pedophiles despite owning 3tb of child porn.

>>725445894
>triggered over even xeno-pedos
anon...

>>725445529
no, the space octojews "just" tried to turn them into plant eaters
space lizard hitler used octojew technology to kill all the food on his planet so he could take over the planet and jerk off over how hard being a baby eating might-makes-right psycho made him

>>725445894
Better than OP's dogshit by a country mile.

>>725445995
Close enough.

>the only thing special about humanity is that we're the sugar babies of the dominant military species that was genetically engineered to look like us by the ancient precursor race
It's a shame the glacial pace means we'll meet real aliens before it's finished

>>725430251
That's already the case in our own planet, boring

>>725430364
I like to think aliens would be upset by our cuisine one way or another. Humans eat all kinds of weird crap: raw, cooked, fermented, highly-processed, heavily spiced, preserved, vegan, and sometimes eat each other, too. When seeing a new animal or plant, the average explorer thinks: 'can I eat it?', 'will it be still fine when covered in mold?', 'can I make booze out of it?', 'is this a new aphrodisiac?', 'am I dying or just getting high?'...

>>725446209
You'd have to justify why other species didn't have to solve food storage to let them be confused by human food. Not impossible and could be interesting but not something to handwave away.

>>725430364
adaptability probably, humans are like cockroaches and can survive in absurd conditions

>>725429569
Humanity Fuck Yeah!
A sub-branch of SciFi whose only point is wanking how super-amazing-weird-and-quirky-and-badass humans are compared to all other species.
Yes it's as cringe and poorly written as you imagine, generally designed around the writer learning about some random-ass science fact about humans and deciding nothing in the universe could do the same or overcome it.

i got into NoP from a /v/ thread about a year ago and I thought it was fine. I liked the fanfictions on the reddit better, though.

>>725446468
>Pulp SF of the 50s and before, the Campbell era, with a side of post-modern chungus
it's what the people crave

What if we're the earliest sentient race in the universe??

>>725445341
elaborate why?

>>725446639
we uplift aliens to our level... and fuck them

>>725446639
There's a story like that where a civilization encounters a ship making wormhole gates automatically. It's a leftover from dead humans because we were the earliest spacefaring species and never met any alien life.

>>725446764
...is that not just the plot of Stargate: Universe before it got shitcanned? They dial an 8-chevron address and end up on an Ancient ship that is still in the process of planting stargates on planets as it heads toward the galactic core?

>>725446675
>>725384164

>>725446639
It’s not a question of what if anon.
It’s how it is. We’re alone not because there isn’t anyone else, but because we’re one of, if not the first, to evolve.
The number of factors that go into the first stage of life, the combination of random amino acids into base single cellular organisms, is immense.
Once single cellular life is established, it then has to evolve into a species that can make it into space and doesn’t destroy itself through disease, war, neural degeneracy (our most likely fate), and has to be on a planet with the right conditions (not aquatic, not too high gravity) to make it out of their atmosphere.
Our best hope is that we engineer ourselves into the aliens eventually

I prefer the humanity-evolves-into-absurd-variants plots, a shame there aren't many

>>725446639
We can larp as ancient progenitors of those who will live millions of years after our time and the misadventures they'll have when messing with our old junk.

>>725433402
You mean that NASA will try to send nogs to space

>>725446639
The universe has only existed for a tiny fraction of a percent of its life supporting period of existence. We are most likely the earliest possible time for complex life.

>>725447025
This used to freak me out so much, and now I realize it's probably a weird TF fetish porn for anons.

>>725446962
Not him but I wouldn't say we're the first - simply the only ones currently alive. Life probably flickers out so quickly (relatively speaking) that with how rare it pops up it's pretty much statistically impossible for it to happen twice at the same time, let alone within communicable distance.

>>725446639
most of the long-lived stars are red dwarfs that will last trillions of years, our star only has about ~5 billion years left, so we might just be the first sentient life if life indeed is a common phenomenon

>>725444547
Can you please open the acronym. I am new here.

>>725447574
not him but i just looked up hoh hfy and found it instantly

>>725447679
>Dragons
Is every hfy story is about furry or scaly? Whatever I like lizards, I'll try it thx.

>>725447832
don't thank me, I think it looks like shit

>>725430364
>>725431167
in Sillage our "superpower" is that humans are the only known race that isn't psychic. other aliens arent capable of seriously lying or bluffing to each other and always have a "presence" others can detect. This makes humans potentially excellent spies and infiltrators.

>reddit tier astronomers in the thread actually thinking we're the first life in the universe
Crazy how these people were able to travel through the universe and find that one out.

>>725447990
There was no reason to respond with this, retard, you could have just left it be instead of being a third-world nigger about it.

being a misanthrope does not make you cool

>>725448271
yer back
how was your nap, tr.@anni?

>>725448367
Misery loves company.

>>725448271
>he can't astrally project
You will never see the truth because you lack the ability to sense an aspect of reality.

>>725446639
then at the very least we might make those who come after us feel a bit less alone, even if we're long gone by the time they pick up on our signs and messages.

>>725447120
I forget, which other countries have NASA too now?

Is this the HFY or the monster fucker association thread?
I'm down for either, but I just want to know where we at.

>>725435773
>counterpoint: technological head start stomps rugged survivalists

>>725448565
fuck it it's now a monster fucker thread

>>725448762
>>725448565
SF xenos and aliens aren't monsters, that's derogatory language.

pic rel is my favorite HFY story. it shows we were easily conquered by a dominant race but we eventually prove ourselves to said dominant race.

>>725448762
I'll take it.

>>725436469
"The Howler from the Void"
(Ao3) /works/61103611/chapters/156119680
It's more of a first contact story than an HFY but it's really good. It avoids a lot of the usual HFY cringe. It's not finished yet but the author is fairly active in /xeno/

>*is the most HFY fiction in your path*
And they still get picked off like a flea by the actual strongest baryonic xenos

>humans are soooo good at war and violence! how can we beat such reckless violence? We never battled like them in our history
Is the one that makes me cringe everytime

>>725446639
So what? We'll be long gone by the time any other species that evolves sapience 10 billion years later or whatever. Even if they looked to their own skies and somehow spotted us, our sun would have exploded by then, not even leaving a trace of our idiocy, which is a mercy when you think about it. The first to realize and the first to fall to our own weaknesses and avarice. The first of many.

>>725449570
Why?

>>725448762
>monster fucker
>posts a brown human with a tail
Come on, there's plenty of good vidya ones, pretend you're trying at the very least.

you know what's sad is that the internet wont work that well in space

>>725439972
stay mad magik-let

>>725433521
at least he went out with a bang and got to assassinate the "president" of the evil geneticist octopus guys

>>725432062
To be fair aside from dolphins tossing pufferfish around to get high off their toxins, what other animal on the planet deliberately goes out of their way to make neurotoxins that specifically attack them to be stronger, so that they can release even more endorphins.

>>725449214
This one is a fantastic story, with a great "aliens are actually ALIEN to each other" angle and "figuring out first contact" like anon said. And the human gets to be a little fuck yeah, being bigger and stronger and having more stamina and being more clever than they think and all that. But it's not overblown or dumb in any way. He's still just one squishy, living organism thrown into a space society.
It is not lewd at all in case you don't want that. But it has cute bugs that you can imagine things about, if you do.

I greatly recommend reading it!

>>725449693
It's indoctrination.
They are unable to use their imaginations and can only think in prescribed goodthink propaganda
anything else triggers them.
I mean, the whole thing is silly of course, but he must keep posting against his perceived political enemies, imagine, thinking shitposting on /v/ is "fighting fascism."

>>725445715
https://www.goblinscomic.com/comic/06262005
>this shit is STILL running
webcomic artists are insane and retarded.

>>725450083
mean ;_;

>>725436469
I really liked David adventures in space, although I dropped it when he got back to Earth. I might reread the entire thing again, it's highly entertaining.
https://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/qstarchive/2021/4844220/

>>725446630
>it's what the people crave
Maybe, but the problem with HFY is that it got latched on by writefags of a level even lower than what you can find on /mlp/ or /trash/ AND reddit unironically love it so there is terrible filtering on which story get promoted and which one die.

>>725429346 (OP)
That thing looks like it exclusively has sex with human men like the two reasonable looking chaps beside it in that photo

>>725449693
nta, but a space faring species would have needed to be violent and the scariest thing on their planet to get to that point.
Assuming that only humans needed to reach the apex of the food chain to go into space is retarded when you can see how fucked the rest of nature is. You think the wolves or monkeys are getting out of their cycle of death and violence any time soon?

>>725434190
It's actually much scarier than that.
It's a genetic marker deep within our evolutionary history that allows us to be scared or suspicious of things that look human, but aren't...
Hopefully, we won't need it in our lifetimes.

>>725434265
>>725435834
How else do you think holy water is made?
You have to boil the Hell out of it :3

SSB > NoP

>>725450317
but tell me this, anon, where are the video games???

I have a question for anyone that finished the sequel, I tried to get through it but just couldn't after a certain point

>Author needs to justify Tabula Rasa in the first book
>Does this by pretty much going point for point through the Protocols of the Elders of Zion "Completely on accident"
>Sequel comes around
>Turns out the space jews had an even more shadowy orthodox cabal that got exiled for being too genocidal while the rest of them wanted to be more subversive and subtle
>This cabal was really into cybernetics
>There's a new alien faction that's technically a republic, but there's a shadowy cabal hidden in the background
>At some point, when they realize the war was just a big misunderstanding, leaders start disappearing and getting replaced by robot clones, who then go on to try and escalate a genocidal war

Did he really do the same thing again, or was that just the equivalent of a fake dogwhistle so he could subvert it and own the racists that found book 1 very funny.

>>725450317
The other big problem is that the sci-fi trends it was satirizing just sort of died around 2015. HFY kind of needs to be masturbatory, without the excess it's just normal sci-fi.

>>725440832
This is likely. At least in our galaxy, or maybe even local group.
The universe is a big place though, and it's not impossible something else is out there, it's just so fucking far away we'll never know.

>>725446639
I think we have to be. There's no other good explanation for us not encountering intelligent species by now other than us just being the first.
It's possible there isn't even unintelligent life at this rate. Which is a little sad.

>>725450553
Dunno, ask OP.

>>725450605
>There's no other good explanation for us not encountering intelligent species by now other than us just being the first.
Anon, we've only just in the last hundred or so years gained space travel and knowledge of radio waves and how to use them. We've had no signature out there before then, and space is FUCKING VAST.
This is like screaming "anyone there!?" into a single field and assuming you're the only person on the planet.

>>725445137
Ah fair

>>725450762
That sounds reasonable, but we've already ruled out most of the Milky Way as non-inhabitable with the piddly like 50 years of real astronomical data. And most species are going to have a little more than 50 years of sentience on us, considering the dinosaurs got nuked and all. We know that inhabitable life-sustaining planets are so rare that even dinosaur-era Earth would've been worth keeping tabs on, and that was a while ago.

I don't think there's any intelligent alien life in the Milky Way at least. We're either the first or we're just way too damn far.

>>725430178
Sorry, still not reading your furtranny comic

>>725430007
Christ is a lot easier to explain when you mention *jews* did this to him, and that they are the root of all of evils.

>>725449214
>>725450031
Well your shilling has convinced me to give it a read.

>>725429650
Was there actually any faggotry?

>>725430364
Us, not really.
Outside of "arboreal fruit-eater deciding to get on the ground and pick a fight with actual predators just because bacon is *that* good" being one hell of an evolutionary nonsense. But that's more of a "short bus / freakshow" type of special.
Earth itself however is. Being the orbit-stable product of two planets smashing into each other and still having two semi-distinguishable cores is pretty freaky even by galactic probabilities standards.

So yeah, mankind would easily get at least two spots in the Galactic Trivia Game's question list.

>>725431421
>A human ship will have double the number of crewmen than an ayy equivalent because of sheer ability to put up with "unlivable" conditions by their standards
>Humanities best feature is being able to live in a smaller pod and own less than all the other races.
Grim.

Name a bigger downfall in a series quality than Deathworlders. It flatout ending in hardcore gay muscle porn and then "oh btw everyone lived happily ever after" is unbelievable shit.

>>725450083
I miss 8 bit theater mang

>>725446209
> Humans eat all kinds of weird crap: raw, cooked, fermented, highly-processed, heavily spiced, preserved, vegan,
That's kinda mandatory to happen for any primitive civilization. Food is scarce and precious, conservation is garbage, it's bound to have a bunch of instances of someone eating something they clearly shouldn't and realizing it's actually kinda tasty and nearly not lethal.
Cheese is everywhere where milk exist, because sooner or later a faggot will try to store some inside a calf/veal's stomach - simply because there aren't that many waterproof containers available at that tech level.

>>725450478
It's just used to avoid corpses and diseased people, it's not that deep

>>725433164
>>725430364
How about love being an unknown phenomenon to ayys?
Be it logical species or more primal ones discovering warmth of romance, peculiarities and excitement of courtship, intensity of passion and stability of monogamy and the peak of true love. Making ayys feel something they've never been able to feel before

>>725430007
I really like this image and I'm not even really a christian.

>>725435832
>why underwater sapient society has a nearly zero chance of ever arising in the first place
Nigger, Octopuses, orcas and whales are almost there already.

>>725432404
>Cuckshit out of NOWHERE
They really can't help themselves.

>>725451594
Probably.
I like the theory that it also comes from dealing with other hominids, for most of the last few million years, there were several species of man-like apes living at the same time...

>>725438564
I vaguely liked that one HFY short about all sentient species developing a HELL of some sort and having to fight it constantly, with mankind being the only one who just kinda rolled with the new business opportunities and not-as-bad-as-the-average-politician-anyway shady partners, ending up with both Mankind and Mankind's hell claiming total invasion of the other and resulting in a "warlock is just a job" civilization.

>>725451401
I don't get why being a predator is that special. For every polar bear there's rhinos, elephants, musk oxes, lot of "prey" species are perfectly happy wrecking shit and are very good at it, even if they don't eat them afterwards.
And we're definitely not polar bears. We're barely wolves. More vultures or something, idk.

>>725451770
one might say NTR is inherent in having sex with different species, if not blatantly expressed

>>725430007
very antisemitic comic

>>725450605
The most obvious answer is that anything faster than relativistic speeds is impossible, which just makes sense.

>>725451719
Jesus was just a really cool guy. (Unless you're jewish, then he was the anti-christ)

>>725451973
>anti-Messiah
fiddy

>>725452049
Thanks, Jew.

>>725429346 (OP)
SEX WITH THE GAY LITTLE LAMB BOI.

>>725452049
Like I said, unless you're a kike.

>>725451834
Being a predator isn't special.
Being a non-predator that evolution yeeted into the predator category on a whim is.

>>725449214
>but the author is fairly active in /xeno/
Not him but what's this? It's probably an altchan board for furry/xeno porn, right?

>>725451474
>>Humanities best feature is being able to live in a smaller pod and own less than all the other races.
That just motivates us to board EVEN HARDER
Look at that nice ass ship they have, its gonna be ours!

>>725441325
I doubt there was ever a first.
The biggest I'm aware of are Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality, and The Waves Arisen (a Naruto fic).
Neither is very good. The issue is that they both rely on making up fake rules and then characters that abuse those fake rules and it doesn't really feel meaningful at all. Its like programming your own RPG and then making your character in it that exploits all the bugs or OP strats you knowingly put in the game.

>>725439631
>Assignment risk
>Anything related to Daxy
>Decent
Lol
Lmao

>>725436673
Bretty good Anon.

>Their hyperzealous warmongering males get their asses kicked by a technologically inferior, physically weaker, species
>Home planet full of lonely females who heard the tales of human men and their legendary spirit (and stamina)
Sucks to be a male sangheili cuck

>>725452128
Oh. Idk, even then, we've all seen webms of horses and shit just eating live animals for the hell of it. Just curious maybe, they don't seem to regret it.
Any spacefaring species is probably going to be on equal footing with self-poisoning with alcohol or milk for kicks and trying everything at least once.

You know I bet human cooking probably beats the shit out of alien ideals since we've got fr*nch and mexicans, that's something.

>>725452278
Assignment risk is a fine story in part because the daxy shit is treated as the bad end it is. Its no high art but still acceptable

>>725450317
Imagine writing this post when hacks like Dan Brown and Stephenie Meyers are no.1 worldwide bestsellers, LMAO.

>>725452336
Chickens love the taste of themselves. They undo a lot of attempts to heal because they keep trying to eat themselves and will absolutely cannibalize others if given reason. I mean who can really blame them, but there's a lot of "technically prey but ready to become predators if it's convenient" species out there.

>>725451559
That just p[roves that lactose intolerance is a sign of evolution to a superior being. No need to get calories and fluid via cow juice.

>>725452336
>we've all seen webms of horses and shit just eating live animals for the hell of it
All animals are opportunistic carnivores. We, however, were dedicated frugivores/herbivores that made animal fats and proteins a majority share of our diet as much as possible. We didn't just experiment or occasionally nom on another monkey when it was easy we deliberately went out of our way to hunt.
>>725452423
Normalfags having shit taste is exactly the problem he's pointing out.

>>725430364
Actually, there is. If you want a serious answer.
I would wager that any prospective intergalactic community would gaze with stupefied amazement at our use of the "No Linear Threshold" model of nuclear safety regulation.

They would stare in silenced awe at our ability to say - with a straight face - that any increase in exposure is proportional to an increase in death, while ignoring background radiation levels 200+ times higher in various global locations that exhibit absolutely no increase in cancer, or better yet, LOWER cases overall.

Of course the reason for that is depressingly simple.
You have to exchange your currency for USD to buy oil. You can't do that with nuclear energy.

>>725452610
>>725452079
>>725452105
You think jacking off to bestiality makes you special, do you?

>>725452336
The appeal of fat and proteins will always claim its target. "Herbivores" just have an easier time resisting, no one is fully immune.

>>725452080
That's a girl.

>>725452336
>for the hell of it
food is food
life is a spectrum

>>725452728
Why am I getting replied to? All I did was say that calling Jesus the anti-christ /anti-messiah means you're a kike. I'm literally right.

>>725452794
BUT THAT'S SHIT.
I WANT TO FUCK A CUTE LAMB BOI.

>>725452730
Are any herbivores incapable of digesting meat or is it just a circumstantial designation?

need rakairi gf

>>725452217
>that image
In actuality, Pirates had a far more varied diet because they'd forage andnhunt from islands on the Caribbean as they went. And thanks to the Spanish there were a fuckton of islands with wild pigs in it ready to hunt and eat.

>>725452991
I would imagine anything classified as an obligate herbivore cannot into meat.

>>725452991
it's just a bit of protein
we used to feed cows mixture of grains and dead cows before prions were known

>>725452659
I don't think I've ever had the displeasure to interact with anyone that ever took the non-linear model for exposure as a definitive rule and law
Yeah, hormesis CAN be a thing. But we just don't fucking know. We don't have the data, because Soviets fucked Chernobyl up when it comes to impacts longterm and thus the only proper source is still two-not-enough bombing of Japan. It's just the best thing we have and it sucks

>>725452881
you can rape her brother~

>>725452881
He's lying. That cute yandere little war criminal is definitely a boy.

>>725452991
>incapable
No really such things, but it's gradient depending on the amount. Eating a chick/mouse here and there is pretty much always fine, however that horse's butthole is not going to have a happy fun time after those fishes.

>>725440375
>All other animals evolved from prey
Do dogs not exist
lions
so on
is this a universe where only humans are on earth

>>725453537
Doesn't really stop us...

>>725440476
Man imagine alien ecosystems, the shit we could rip off from them would lead to another industrial revolution, each one would be a 1000 roll gacha box

>tfw want to write sci-fi thing that mixes fantasy races and aliens
>tfw struggling

>>725453886
dude, 40k, lmao

>>725453886
How do you differentiate fantasy races and aliens?

>>725453928
Yeah but 40k mostly has PURGE XENO KILL XENO rather than SEX WITH THE XENO.

>>725454045
>PURGE THE XENOS
>USING WEAPONIZED SEX
Here, you got your billion dollar idea.

>>725454045
dude, Out Of Cruel Space (with the serial number filed off), lmao

>>725454041
Aliens are derived from known scientific principles, intent is more important in that regard.
Fantasy is drawn from myth and folktales from different historical cultures.

>>725454045
uh oh are you implying Girlyman is doing something wrong?

>>725430364
we can eat chocolate without dying

>>725454041
Well that's the thing I've been toying with, about explaining why humanity is going out to the stars and finding these species of beings they always thought to be borne of Earth folklore.
I've got my adhoc explanation but it's focusing on both aliens and fantasy races equally that's hard. There's going to be people that want to read about fucking a space goblin and those that want to read about fucking the 8-foot tall jelly-like mantis alien that has two orifices.
I want both, but that's getting on for too many cooks in the kitchen and too much of an erratic focus.

>>725451131
Yeah, aliens would get that analogy instantly having no knowledge of Jesus. Retard.

>>725430364
Rhythm and music/singing.
Early human & proto-human tribes got hard filtered by their shaman/witch-doctor/etc ability to not fuck up poison preparation. Timing in infusion/preparation are critical for that early medicine preparation, and it was all done by using songs with fixed tempo and length to know how far you were (which is the reason repetitive incantations are quasi-universal among civilization's magic folklore).
And now mankind is among the one who suck the less at music in the entire galaxy.

>>725453087
Obviously, all age of sail navies still fished and had dedicated rations of rum and meat and peas and other such
still a fun image to post
We'd hole ourselves up in castles or holds for months, march hundreds or thousands of miles through frost and storm, wade through chest high mud just to stab a dude, and sail out with no set destination just hoping to find shit all fine and dandy off the prospect that it'd benefit us or our loved ones, not some rich cunt who still wants to fly a private jet.
Apes have an innate sense of fairness.

>>725451792
And the ones we couldnt fuck we killed and probably ate, which isnt that bad because they almost certainly did the same to us, we were just better at it.

>>725448762
Based partially scaled woman appreciator.
>>725449775
Cringe furfag

>>725454306
Analogy?

>>725454402
music is one of those things that feel like they're unnecessary on the path to a space faring civilization.
it just feels like some vestigial remnant or an emergent property of some other crucial thing to our survival.

it's one of the few responses in this thread that I consider entirely plausible

>>725454197
Ah that's kind of the ultraterrestrial hypothesis, where all supernatural phenomena are otherdimensional beings that human mind cannot really comprehend, but with them being actual aliens

>>725439631
>They are Smol
The man who writes that legitimately cares more about the contents of his discord than the contents of his story. I wouldn't recommend anyone interface with it under any circumstances.

>>725453590
>>725440375
I read it a bit. Basically a large number of the sentient alien species were some form of omnivore/predator but were fucked with on the genetic level during the uplifting process. Any non-sentient predatory animals or species where the uplifting didn't take were put to the extermination squads.

>>725454727
And species that weren't uplifted?
I don't get what makes humans special here beyond bad writing

>>725430364
I thought the Uplift series was pretty cool. In it all sentient life in the galaxy was 'uplifted' into sentience by another race. Except humans, or the uplifter of humans fucked off irresponsibly, no one knows. But, before contact humans uplifted chimps and dolphins which was a big no-no in the eyes of aliens. There's supposed to be some bureaucratic process or something I don't recall.
Either way, fun books overall.

>>725453886
I was also doing this
The main race that the setting follows was a parasitic alien race that hijacks creator deities and forces them to recreate them on different planets

OK so does anyone actually bang an alien in this story

Do you think Pierson's Puppeteers give good head?

>>725455030
That is some very 'babby's first xeno' design.

>>725430178
I like the races and wordbuilding but hate thats its all a vehicle for the authors tranny transformation fetish.

>>725455158
Please enlighten us with what an advanced alien designer like you can output

>>725434189
Wait, so they don't drink oil?

>>725455158
it's actually one of the least stupid Puppeteer images I could find (pic related); Abiogenesis made a good one, but it's only good because he just remade them in the image of his Birrin species, and gave it a sufficiently "alien" set of hooves.

So what exactly would a silicon based lifeform be like?

>>725454774
Every space-faring species left in the galaxy outside of like 5 were uplifted. 3 were the founders of the galactic republic that handled the uplifting and genetic modifications of all other species. The ones that evolved on their own and refused the modifications were exterminated, the species that didn't have the modifications take were exterminated. Arxur are one exception because it gives the state an agent to throw at rogue factors while keeping plausible deniability. Humans are the other exception because we were on the uplift list, then WW3 broke out, nukes and EMPs knocked the planet dark for a bit, and the observers were pulled back, assuming the Humans just extincted themselves.

>>725455425
That's a very reductive way of looking at it.
This is said about an author that's had multiple moments in a story to assert that a male turning into a female IS NOW FEMALE CHUD etc, but every single step of the way the main character has constantly reasserted his masculinity or his lack thereof and how he wishes and strives to maintain it so he can go back to normal.
When other characters in non-canon sub-comics TF into stuff, it's about the psychological changes and the hardships of adaption that are the most fascinating, and I think that holds true for the author too.

>>725430364
We purposefully drank milk until we developed tolerance for it.

>>725452730
Never forget. Horses and cows may be cute but if they ever got the chance to eat you whole they would take it withou hesitation

>Orcs - big, strong, dumb, melee brutes - shoot them.

>Dwarves - short, stocky, miners - seal the mine.

>Elves - magic, flawless marksmen, live in trees - start a forest fire.

>Halflings - light weight - toss them off a cliff.

>Humans - big, strong, dumb, melee brutes, short, stocky, miners, magic, flawless marksmen, live everywhere, light weight, heavy weight, middle weight, highly intelligent, inventors, reproduce every two or three years on average instead of one kid per century or at a sorcerer's whim, infesting the planet, and how the hell do you kill them???

The final redpill is when you realize that, as we humans are writing the stories, our bias will consciously or subconsciously creep in and make us the ultimate mary sues. We always dominate the fantasy worlds we write. Not some elf or tiefling or whatever.

>>725437172
>conveniently pretends most aliens wouldnt want to farm and goon the shit out of us

>>725450083
The fuck is this

>>725446359
>>725446209
>>725439310
>>725433847
we would have these in common with all spacefaring civilizations

>>725454718
I liked the other story he (I assume it was the same author) tried to write twice and abandoned twice despite promising to totally not do that. The shark cop one.

>>725450593
Just imagine, even if we could travel at light speed, we would never realistically be able to explore all of just our galaxy. At 10c we'd still take five thousand years to sniff out a single direction and reach the edge, starting from the center(which we're not at). Galactic mapping doesn't even enter the realm of possibility until we can go a thousand time the speed of light or more. And fuck ever seeing another galaxy, much less crossing the gulf between them. It really does boil down to hoping on-demand wormholes or space folding aren't just theoretical, or we're not going anywhere or meeting anyone.

>>725455915
Why is Joel Haver there?

>>725450083
Isnt this guy a loony troon these days

>>725456086
>And fuck ever seeing another galaxy, much less crossing the gulf between them.
That's fine. Andromeda is coming for a visit in a few years.

>>725431421
Yeah, the absolute highest you could go is about 2.4 earth masses, meaning the gravity would only be about 1.34g, which isn't enough to affect evolution in any significant way. If anything, aliens from smaller, lower gravity planets would just be a lot taller than us, and probably a bit thinner.
In other words, humans are short, stocky, hairy inventors obsessed with money and settling multi-generational grudges. We're dwarves.

>>725454827
I really ought to get into that series, all i know about it is that it inspired an artist to draw hot monkey porn

>>725456027
I'm actually not familiar with it. That's disappointing to hear but it tracks. My whole statement come from a call me and some other amateur writers had with him where we tried to grill him on writing, but he just talked about the importance of having a "good" discord community for two hours. Fame went to his head and that was YEARS ago now.

>>725456423
:)
Friends.

>>725456423
>a few
since when is "25% of the age of the universe" a 'few'

>>725457167
at some point along the way you realize that time loses meaning

>>725430364
you know what, thinking about general scifi, you know how pretty much all planets are
the ice planet of hoth
the desert planet of dune
the jungle planet of catachan
just one biome the entire planet over from pole to pole?
an interesting idea would be how earth has every biome imaginable, making humans uniquely adaptable to any planet, while most other species are stuck to whatever biome their homeworld is mostly.

>>725432563
>>725433164
found it
if the ayy lmaos are descended from prey animals then they're in trouble
can't beat the cock

>>725446639
What race? Earthlings? Because humanity only exists thanks to the amazing endurance of countless species that preceded us and eked out a living on this cursed rock. Could you survive snbowball earth? Yeah I didn't think so.

>other species learn to cooperate and peacefully work together
>humans remains as barbaric savages even after reaching the stars
These fucking NINGEN.

>>725457952
It's in our nature. We're creatures born of strife. The more we struggle, the stronger we become, and the greatest foe to test our mettle upon is ourselves.

>>725456086
you don't even need light speed for galactic colonization, just takes millions of years, lmao

>>725450083
Would this thing, otherwise amazingly ugly
Reminds me of that one comic where a guy called minmax beats up le evil rapist and gets the sexy dryad chick or whatever
Or the one where the guy is sucked into a tabletop rpg and his female troops just assume he's going to order them to fuck him because that's just normal in their world (even though its not in the rpg he's supposed to be in, so it makes 0 sense for them to assume this)
Webcomics are very heavy on "rape makes this deep" writing

for me it's the annihilation of humanity being avenged by a vengeful, genocidal, very angry A.I.

>>725458156
Retarded take. Genuinely. Humans have and have had for the majority of time we've been evolved enough the EASIEST lives of pretty much any species on the entire planet.
We don't struggle. We sit in our warm houses with fresh food we just bought and whine online women half our age don't want to fuck us when we haven't showered in 7 days because our lives are so fucking easy that's what we consider "struggle"
Most people literally do not have enemies, just people they dislike but simply politely dismiss

>>725429346 (OP)
is this image really funny to a point that it's worth keep making multiple threads about it
or are you shilling because you're a gay faggot

>>725457684
So /k/ ALSO fucks horses?

>>725458375
You may note every major technological advance has been extremely rapid and almost always during times of war.

>>725456108
adventure awaits

>>725458440
you thought they just stopped at deer?
it's lonely out there innawoods where any holes a goal

>>725458467
And?
Your point is?
Most of human history is most of humanity not being at war
"but X war"
Affected like 10% of humanity. Or less.
Are you at war, right now? Or sat on your ass posting? Is it the latter? You are most of humanity.

Sumikas bday merch, I mean, message. Never noticed the cleavage but she's still pretty nerfed.

>>725458613
Why are you so upset over this?

>>725458375
What you describe is a tiny percentage of humans of the billions who still struggle physically every day AND only in the last ~80 years, within living memory even European remember starving in winter.
Civilization consists of a few privileged aristocratic kings and 95% of people working hard with a large percentage as literal slaves.

>>725458780
I never get why people think there's any actual emotion behind words on this site. I am sat in my room on my comfy couch naked about to have a shower, stone faced and 4 foot 6 inches tall

>>725458785
And those people STILL had it easier than the average animal infested by parasites waiting to die

Why are humans so whiny

>>725458889
suffering is relative
People are silly
like white kids on reddit saying USA is a facist country now OMG

>>725454587
>Cringe furfag
you are cringe for being an animefaggot

>>725458728
wrong thread lad?

>>725458889
Those people also had parasites, most still do ;)

>>725458785
Over 95% of humans struggly by getting fucked twice and dying like a cockroach. Humans are no better than rats. They still do literally nothing as they get slaughtered like cattle.
Struggle my ass. Human spirit is negligible. Human intelligence as shit as it is, is why humans ever got anywhere. And we're getting dumber.

>>725458997
Relative to deez

>>725458467
>every major technological advance has been extremely rapid and almost always during times of war
lel
this isn't even remotely true and you don't have to think about it too hard to figure out why

>>725459090
>humans are le bad
Ah, you were just a Redditor, sorry, my mistake.

>>725458889
The sheer amount of suffering on this planet is astronomical, and just because you're hidden away from it in your ivory tower with your blinds closed doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

>>725459090
Why not kill yourself if humanity is so bad huh?
Quit huffing your own farts, you miserable fag

>>725459196
Ww2 gave us nuclear energy.
The cold war gave us the Internet.

>>725429346 (OP)
I like HFY in general but it's almost never cool and comes off cringy or overly masturbatory.
It's a shame the primary repository for HFY is fucking Reddit. I think that's the majority of the problem with it.

The cold war also gave us microchips.

>>725459090
>And we're getting dumber.
You will never be Type B.

>>725459303
>The sheer amount of suffering on this planet is astronomical
No, the sufferings of a tiny little planet is most definitely not astronomical.
Delusional, perhaps.

>>725459426
>>725459274
Go back

I like Frontier Fantasy but it does fall a little victim to the "trope" where the characters talk about content from their future's past which just so happens to be our current day media and pop-culture (instead of mostly discussing their future's immediate history and events for more world building).

>>725456713
I think even in traditional fantasy, Dwarves, Elves, and any of the 'humanoid' races are just extreme versions of things that we already are known to be as humans. Any time someone tries to create a non-human-like race in fiction it comes off as annoyingly surreal.

>>725430921
They're there, but safely contained by the speed of light that can't be actually defeated.

>>725459398
>>725459465
the theory for both was already established during peace time
only the nuclear bomb needed a significant resource and political investment that would not have been possible otherwise in peace time
as for the internet it's just another inevitability

you can't really see all the other stuff that would have been invented had the economy been more prosperous and knowledge sharing been more free, but it's easy to imagine inventing things is easier in peace time

>>725459812
>inevitability
No.
Wrong.

>>725459274
>>725459375
>>725459484
triggered humans

>>725446962
>the combination of random amino acids into base single cellular organisms, is immense.
I'm guessing you're talking out of your ass
I don't think this question of abiogenesis has even been answered, so you'd have no way of knowing if it's immense or not

>>725440375
>every other species evolved from prey
>humans are the only one in the setting that evolved from predators
Absolutely based and actually believable
But also in truth humans were prey for a big chunk of time.

>>725430364
Just our delusional thinking of the one winner one loser fallacy, as you proved.
Why would be special and not just another swarming mass of our oddly-shaped peers? Would the gleebglorb really be slower because they have 2 extra joints when nature would prioritize the same things that made humans reach space, of course not.

>>725459963
>triggered humans
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_khWy7GAcQ