>Hard mode Darkdrift Knight
https://x.com/ELDENRING/status/1937694856970928568

>Hard mode Nightlords information
https://en.bandainamcoent.eu/elden-ring/news/the-everdark-sovereigns-have-emerged-elden-ring-nightreign

>Nightreign official wiki and guides, beginner/advanced tips and tricks
https://en.bandainamcoent.eu/elden-ring/elden-ring-nightreign/wiki

>Latest Nightreign patch notes
https://en.bandainamcoent.eu/elden-ring/news/elden-ring-nightreign-patch-notes-version-1013

>Nightlord resistances chart
https://files.catbox.moe/e24o74.jpg

>Main Information Document
https://rentry.org/erpasta

>Character Planners
https://eip.gg/elden-ring/build-planner/
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/19Op36P7gdVMkPzFQX6OsjZcfyUjdGOj7Cjk9qFAVj-U/edit

>Interactive Map
https://mapgenie.io/elden-ring/maps/the-lands-between

>Group Password
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>Touch Bloodstain: >>528849873

I love my doll wife

>>528873449 (OP)
>duchess doesnt exist if you beat the game
bros..

highest ive got is level 13, how do you get up to 14 15? just rush down bosses with dps?

>>528873449 (OP)
I hate how easy Wylder, Raider, etc. are when all I want to do is play Executor well :(
>>528873549
Whoa. Haven't seen that.

>>528873549
What does the meteorite even do?

>>528873595
>>528873549
>>528873661
it spawns a fallingstar beast field boss, I've never seen one myself but I've come across the crater it leaves behind

>>528873572
Prioritize the castle and open field bosses or put on the crutch relics for increased rune gain.

>>528873560
>bros..
If Duchess stops existing, you are a F-tier brother

>>528873721

yeh, one time we just killed all of the crucible knights in the middle and got tons of exp

is that standard play still?

Pretty sure I just out-tanked our birdman while playing as Ironeye, excellent game

if the executor on my team misses even a single deflect on any enemy, i will afk

>>528873812
Your english isn't good enough for me to parse what you are trying to say, sorry.
Do people still do the castle for the exp? Yes.

>>528873812
yep, half of castle day 1, go in at level 5 or 6

I actually got a relic that increases frenzy flame incantations, how cool is that? Also is there a way to start with a different seal plz

>>528873572
The general play is
>get to level 5-7, opening 1-3 evergaols
>head to the castle, kill the bottom boss and farm the trolls/crucible knights/banished nights until night 1
>circle the map killing field bosses and evergaols until the circle starts closing
>head back into the castle and finish it off

fulghor fucking runs over recluse

Yeah I'm not fighting EPO Fulghor ever again
got win on first try, through sheer luck and a good teammate

Wait so are the siblings twins or not?

>>528873993
kek

>>528874024
No. The links they have are intentionally done outside of their physical appearance for a reason.

>>528874024
They are siblings, twins, step siblings and Duchess is imouto and oneesan all at the same time.
Why? Time is convoluted, lmao

>>528874024
miyazaki is such a fag that wylder is most likely prettier than dutchess

>>528873993
Lol.

Do people not like slow restore? You get more health out of it.

>>528874024
Duchess is androgynous enough that you can assume they are twins.

>>528874183
>boss nukes you
>sippy
>slowly regain hp
>get nuked again at 50%
yeah, it's shit unless you're on guardian

Bunch of whiny manchildren getting way too pissy when they can't get carried to instawins with /erg/. I will be playing with randoms until you babies calm down

>>528874183
are you certain its more?

>>528874292
it's reasonably fast now tho

>>528874183
i take it on 1000+hp classes only.

>>528873993
nice

>>528874183
It is a midwit filter because midwits play like midwits and sip right after being hit and then die while sipping.
If you can control your sippage it is good.

>>528874292
If you don't recognize safe healing windows, no amount of heals will save you

>>528873463
Maybe he was always planning on using Radhan as a consort from the start, but the original plan was for Radhan to die in battle "organically". Then something happened which shocked Miquella to his core (the attack by the hornsent?), making try to activate his plan earlier, by forcing Radhan's death and his kidnapping by Mogh before the Haligtree was full grown.
Whatever event shocked him into action might have made him slightly unhinged, as Yimir siggests, making him abandon Trina, his compassionate part, transforming him into a full own sociopath

>>528874313
its just not fast enough, especially when dmg negation at full items drop like candy
being able to take an attack, heal quickly while enemy is mid attack and negate the next attack is just too valuable
>>528874383
yeah but we're talking about panic situations. obviously if you already know the boss and windows it's less efficient but at that point it doesn't matter

game is pretty unbalanced too often the whole party dies when the boss has 5 hp left

>>528874024
I don't think they are twins. Probably very close in age, if at all, but it's unclear. I'd personally believe Wylder is the older brother, given how much he cares about Duchess. But that's just my opinion.

Reminder to all Raiders: If you have the Noklateo shifting earth, you can use your Ult to skip everything and go straight to Astel. This is great if your team is ahead (lvl 10-ish at start of day 2). You can also kill a few bosses inside the city and then go for Astel since you skipped the most time consuming part.
All you need to do is go to the north wall (to the right of facing the entrance). There's a cliff just close enough to the wall. Then you just call your big rock and jump from there.

>>528874387
>Maybe he was always planning on using Radhan as a consort from the start, but the original plan was for Radhan to die in battle "organically". Then something happened which shocked Miquella to his core (the attack by the hornsent?),
Like I said, I like my fiction when I have to write the script less for the writers. From Software games always have a degree of that of course, but it's the worst it's ever been in Elden Ring. I don't have to infer too much that Vendrick loved Nashandra, he speaks longingly of her and has a nickname for her. I don't have to infer too much why Gwyn gave his body to the First Flame, we're shown that he was the first guy to throw lightning spears at the archdragons. He earned his kingdom with his own strength, of course he didn't want to see it go. Over a year since the dlc, and the amount of inference required to make sense of Elden Ring isn't my cup of tea.

>>528874024
>>528874553

>>528874387
He was raised with the understanding that he had divine writ in a One True Faith religion and then the things he attempted keep failing.
Its easy to see where it was going.

>>528874605
Can you do it to go up to astel grace from dragonkin warrior?

>we are at middle east on the map
>i ping the centre castle
>guy pings church top east corner of the map
>It looks like a shorter distance to walk to the church than castle, but will be way farther from castle from where we are now so i decide to ignore the church and just hope he follows, nope he goes north
>there are so many hills and stepping stones between us and north church that i actually get to the castle before he gets to his church even though it looked like i had twice the distance to run from a birds eye view
>he now has to run twice the distance from church to castle than where we started, from a birds eye view, but also has to navigate the terrain on the way as well
and people wonder why they are having a hard time getting higher than level 12, there you go.

>>528874147
wylder is definitely a pretty boy (straight)

>>528874619
>Young sister
Oh hell yeah, I was right. Nice.

Giga Furlgor is ass for Recluse 80% of your spells won't hit him, Giga Adel was fat so it wasn't that much of an issue.

I am a useless doll, please carry me.
Just need +stamina for allies and I will be complete.

>>528874773
Try him with Executor, holy shit. I felt like such a useless shit with two Wylders.

Make your choice

>>528873925

k

>>528873937

>day 1 check castle basement boss, its fuckin billy mc grab cunt
>we all die, run is rip

sometimes we see his ass down there and just go nope and try him later or just ignore

is he weak to a particular element or something i can try to bring?

>>528874812
cant u sekiro parry the AoE to stagger him?

>>528874773
You know what must be done
DING DING DING

>>528874581
basedbasedbasedbased

Man you guys were heavy

>>528874836
no but seriously any other /x/ cross posters wince when first saw this baphomet mother fucker?

>>528874836
Mating press the goat

>>528874853
pierce and lightning do relatively well vs him. hes resistant to everything.

>>528873449 (OP)
I love my sister!

>>528874896
Are people still not smacking smaller mobs? Like surely everyone is getting at least 70-80 kills per game?

>>528874864
Kill yourself bellringger

>go to basement at level 10
>it's BBH
>the guardian is spam pinging us to not do it
nigga we're already geared and leveled just fucking kill him

>>528874896
kys faggot you kept leaving your teammates behind and ignored our pings

>>528874784
Tell me when to queue, im guessing giga centaur?

>>528875025
I only play with randoms and everybody ignores smaller mobs.

>>528875025
I think most people know to kill trash on the way now. I see it a lot more even with randoms now. Even saw an Ironeye that was killing trash for us grind the jellyfish at a zamor camp to get us the jellyfish shield.

>>528874864
I really hope they nerf the bell

>>528875025
It I have hoarfrost stomp of some other aoe attack then yeah, if not then no

>>528875025
Depends on the match and f they are on the way.
When the circle closes and there is nothing else to do, it's definitely murdering time

>>528875151
They won't because they won't nerf the crossbows and they function as the same day 1 crutch intentionally. People are supposed to be leaning on those tools to make troublesome things on day 1 easier. Its intentional game design.

>>528871621
I don’t know why you’re replying with shit that looks like the script for a vaati video. Miquella sent Malenia to kill Radhann since he refused to be his consort at some point, probably because of his star autism or just holding the stars to outright reject his fate as consort. He believed Malenia would get the win and when she doesn’t his plans are obviously up in the air. He put too much faith in Malenia but probably expect her to nuke Caledid and Radhann to eventually come to him

>>528875025
its annoying as fuck when tanky char runs past everything and helps kill boss then immediatly leaves and you cant use grace or pick up loot until you finish solo clearing them out which overall makes the run slower. even worse when its guardian because one of the perks to having guardian on your team is easy trash mob clearing with their winds

>>528874856
Likely.

>>528874784
>that pose
I see what you did lmao

>>528874608
It's not that much of a stretch, we're told throughout the dlc that Miquella's tale is a tragedy so it wouldn't make sense for everything up to the final boss fight to be going as planned, we're told he was very shocked by the whole gas the hornsent thing, his representatives that we meet are a cast of ragtag associate, all but one of them have murderous tendencies, we're told one became charmed after the trauma marika inflicted caused him to attack Miquella.

And maybe the helmet that removes emotions for when you're whipping numens has less to do with not getting a boner and more another way to remove compassion and love, paralleling Miquella's ascension

>>528875025
Those 2 raiders were sharing 1 braincell, I had to do the entire crater gauntlet solo while they fucked off to god knows where.
>>528875084
Yeah I got the the most kills, runes, died the less, soloed every prelate, soloed the magma wyrm, where the fuck were you?

>start expedition
>immediate fucking lag
>scammed out a boss reward
>get Stars of Ruin on day 2
>it doesn't work properly due to lack.
>it doesn't nothing to teammate bars.
>it does way less damage than it should.
>still get to Fulghor.
>still get him to 5% HP again despite the huge damage nerf.
>he targets me instead of the revenant because he magically knows who has the best chance of killing him.
On top of that, it's two runs in a row of teammates running off on their own without even pinging anything. I stayed up late for several scuffed runs in a row.

>>528875151
they wont because its damage isnt even that great. it stomps some of the day 1 content. hoarfrost stomp is way better and can scale to lategame. i havent really used the bell since i got better relics

>>528873449 (OP)
can someone explain to me why Dutchess in the night outfit isn't real and my wife? did I commit great sins in my past life or something?

>>528874120
Duchess doesnt have the body to be an Onee-san that's Recluse's title
>>528874212
How do you look at her thighs and not see a woman??
>>528874619
>it was a promise to ever fight side-by-side
that's hella ambiguous, I wonder if its on purpose

>>528875285
Goes like this
>mike is a GO believer
>falters, moves to GO fundamentalism to cope
>falters, abandons GO values entirely
>in the void of direction becomes a sociopath
The only thing holding him back was his GO taught compassions, the only thing fucking with his mind were his GO taught mores. He was never taught any other system so when he decides to abandon what he knows he is left rudderless and aimless.
Him being 'eternally young' and his life path going down this route is his entire character.

gradual estus restoration is good actually

>>528875285
It could have been a tragedy if not for the fact that we're supposed to believe everything was going as planned, yes. The charming of Mohg, sending Malenia to Radahn, resurrecting Radahn, etc. It's a retrofitting because like another anon said, Miyazaki wanted more Radahn. Miquella's cut storyline had everything to do with dreams. I'm not interested in continuing this conversation man; I wasn't satisfied with the dlc story. If you enjoyed it, good for you. I won't reply any further.

>>528875374
man I noticed the quality of games had gone downhill in the past couple hours too

>>528875430
masturbation causes hormone receptors to down regulate testosterone absorption. yeah blood serum levels are somewhat of a red herring, they are only half the issue and a misleading factoid overall. jewish porn companies tricked you.

why did executioner redeem the sword

>>528875501
Upon closer inspection it isn't the same attack, but I still find it a bit dumb.

>>528875592
trope in weeb culture.

fuark bros this boss was a letdown... or did we get too good...

>>528875501
you guys were great, good run

>>528874812
I’m personally finding him piss easy with executie. He can’t resist any status and has large windows for me to apply it. Plus you can parry his jump slams, I haven’t tried parrying his twin blade yet

>>528875025
Honestly building ult for every engagement is the true meta and people looking at me weird for killing crabs are fools

>>528875501
>webm name
It really is the most filler attack in his new phase lmao

Good game Rev and Recluse. Kinda went unga bunga there and almost threw good thing Helen got the last hit.

I didn't expect Fulghor to be so easy, Adel took me like 9-10 tries to get down and Fulghor just got smashed, I think I finished with 6 flasks up or so too. Everything he does is very easy to dodge and he has no big problematic move like Adel's tornado.

>>528875501
dsgtroon post

>>528874836
I'm not a furry but...

>>528875501
it's not even close to Aldrich's rain of arrows.
I wish it was; it'd still be far easier to dodge since it's a large arena & surge sprint exists

>>528875696
>I’m personally finding him piss easy with executie. He can’t resist any status and has large windows for me to apply it. Plus you can parry his jump slams, I haven’t tried parrying his twin blade yet
I'm a retard so I just want to parry everything.

Is the loot pool bugged for anyone else?
three games and not a single staff drop from field bosses

>>528875660
I've been playing with randos and honestly playing with erg is easy mode, everyone here is at least good

>>528875708
i had a wending grace, hence why i tried to take out the boss's last bit of health instead of rezzing the recluse lol

I queued with erg once.
Both picked Revenant, so I just Alt-F4'd

>>528875729
For me it's the opposite lol Adel was never threatening but i can almost never get a hit on Fulgor

there needs to be a dragon communication class

>>528875783
>good
as if it's hard to fuck up playing wylder or raider. try taking him on with duchess, recluse, revenant, guardian, or exe.

>>528875745
Yeah, I realised after posting the webm. It's kind of like his 1st phase rain of arrows except it splits into 3. I was thinking of his 2nd phase attack which is entirely avoidable if you stick close to him.

>>528874608
Elden ring's lore is simultaneously the one I was by far the most compelled by while also the only one that I have completely had to jump ship from and not care about anymore. The base game had so many unsolved mysteries that require more than just leaps in logic, they require basically drafting your own headcanon if you want to pretend that some things have answers. And now with the dlc only really marring a lot of the compelling aspects and dilluting the intrigue of others (marika's backstory, the fingers) it feels like it's been retroactively ruined, like when a series you've been keeping up with ends on a trainwreck. It's common knowledge how unfinished and revised every game in from's library is but elden ring is a unique case where it's so much bigger, raised the bar for success so much, and required having a similarly big expansion that so much potential to amend the story in the name of business was reintroduced back into the game. It's the first time a pontiff sulyvahn level of rewriting and repurposing of assets was used on a game that was already out.

It sounds lame to some but I easily considered elden ring my favorite game of all time after it came out and how it was botched so heavily is something I don't think I'll ever get over.

>>528875549
>we're supposed to believe everything was going as planned, yes.
We're flat out told his tale his a tragedy, how would that make any sense if everything went as planned????

While most of the dlc was probably written after elden ring's launch (especially since there were originally two dlc that were fused together), the constant dick riding Radhan gets in the base game means Miyazaki might have always wanted him to be even more special.

If you're deadset on hating the dlc's story I can't stop you, but it's a stupid choice

>>528875905
ez

>>528875905
I play duchess exclusively so I can coom while fucking up the horse

>>528875953
Its my favorite game. I can get someone throwing their hands up at it and having to not care.

>>528875992
you're doing what to the horse?

>playing night reign on steam link in bed on my phone
kino why dont you buy a used razer kinshi?

>>528874773
Nah, this shit is still easy as hell. Unless you have a bird shaped anchor weighing your team down. Lol

>>528875992
You like trying to take a peek under his tail too?

>>528875857
All rev runs vs giga adel are honestly the most fun I’ve had in NR

>>528875550
>man I noticed the quality of games had gone downhill in the past couple hours too
Today has been absolute shit.
>first try win with Guardian and some randos against enhanced Fulghor
>next expedition, disconnect on day 3 before I even get to fight the boss
>stop playing for a few hours
>come back and get terrible retard teammates.
>switch to Recluse and this shit happens >>528870309
>few games later, good run marred by terrible lag, then this shit happens >>528875374

It's like trying to find kernels of corn in shit.

> hornsent nightfarer
They don't belong in the RH
I will never team up with a dirty hornsent gypsy

>>528875806
I had a lot of damage mitigation passives so I kinda never looked at my HP. I gotta stop plaing Raider it's tuning my brain to mush.

>>528875953
This.

Executor is the highest still ceiling and player expression character
You need a minimum of 200IQ and 25 years of age to play him

hey guys I havent tried the new boss yet so have mercy on me im already selfconcious enough about being in C-tier, dont spoil me on the fight im gonan waste a relic slot putting lightning on starter wep

>>528876037
>>528876059
you could call me Mr Hands for how much I've fucked this horse tonight

>>528876103
>mash guard
>oh no i missed a bunch gotta turn into a furry
>go back to mashing guard
most skilled class please understand

>>528876079
>think I'll look like a casual saying raider is invincible while doing retaliate since he technically isn't
>never get checked
I want to say raider players have it easy but they play like kings so I let it go.

>>528875660
it was always my least favourite boss because of all the AoEs and as a caster you lock on to his torso and spells would miss him half the time.

Thanks for the carry revenant and duchess, I suck at Fulghor's second phase and had no idea what to do in his new phase

>>528876104
I beat it first try and i'm d-tier, if you don't beat him too then I'll be taking your spot as c-tier

>>528875037
Recluse is a mixed bag, some are spells and some incantations. The one thing that doesn't matter is your weapon though, so they only get affected by weapon effects and terra magica.
Triple magic: spell
Triple fire: incant
Triple lightning: incant
Triple holy: N/A

Magic/lightning: incant
Magic/fire: incant
Magic/holy: N/A
Lightning/fire: incant
Lightning/holy: N/A
Holy/fire: N/A

Magic/fire/holy: Incant
Magic/fire/lightning: Spell
Magic/holy/lightning: Spell
Fire/holy/lightning: Incant

Easy rule of thumb: if it leaves a magic remnant it's a spell, anything else it's a incant.

>>528876129
Mr. Hands got fucked to death by the horse. He did not in fact fuck it.

im noticing alot of raiders not using the best raider skin which is havel the rock
what the helly???

>>528875953
I personally never like the lore of Elden ring. I think my friend hit the nail on the head first time we played it when he said the boss rush at the end summed up the biggest issue with ER that it’s just cool looking things that you feel zero connection to just happening one after another. I feel like the “journey” in ER just feels disappointing

>>528875783
>everyone here is at least good
except me btw

>>528876293
They probably like raider and not the memberberries part.

>>528876293
havel the rock gets boring, the best skin is remembrance

>>528876210
I main recluse and I think I'm just going to have to play wylder anytime I random into fulghor.
It's miserable casting spells and then the fuck just decides to run 30 miles away.

>>528875953
To me the main issue is less the lore being wrong/botched and more that the dlc took so long to came our we were left to marinate in our own kool-aid for two years, and while we were discussing how many angels could dance on a pinhead, the dlc showed a lot of basic "common knowledge" to be wrong, which threw people off. Also it didn't help that almost all writefags+drawfags were driven away by ryonaposting and nox

>>528876293
I am using the best Raider skin though? Same with my beloved doll wife

Sweet baby birds I have no idea wtf you were doing that run.

>>528876412
You also had people that were right the whole time.

>>528876351
basedbasedbased.
>oh hey first elden lord i guess
>oh hey elden beast i guess
>oh hey metyr i guess
>oh hey gideon i guess you were an asshole anyway so get out of my way
>oh wow the camera work as melina is burning to death is so intimate it's a shame i don't give a fuck about her
>miquella wants me to yield the path forward to him even though we never had a conversation once about how we see the world
it's such shit.

>>528876293
I like his dark skin and making pig noise when I’m going ham on a boss

>>528876414
dawn >>>> literal shit >> darkness
that skull looks retarded af

>>528876293
I like the new skins more than the older ones. The only DaS skins I wear are Artorias and Llewellyn. Dragon School is also good

Is it lagging for anybody else? I want to do one more run (without retarded teammates).

just picked executor for my first time against gigadrift knight and probably died like 5 times, but me and the wylder both had a wending grace so it was ok (we used neither though)

>>528876293
if I were an unga bunga bonk player I would only use the Siegward skin

>>528876505
My wife hangs on to the horns while I standing fuck her

>>528876523
Relics? I've been on a quest for days to find the optimal Executor build.

>>528876483
its never boaring thats for sure

>>528874024
isn't it explicitly said that the duchess was adopted
>>528873993
LMAOOOOOOO

>>528876521
it is lagging a bit but not nearly as bad as earlier today. at least enemies weren't clipping around and items weren't taking 5 seconds to spawn from chests

>>528876625
>isn't it explicitly said that the duchess was adopted
Yep! After she got separated from her tribe she gets adopted into some fop's family and she pretends to be a thief to pay him back.

>>528876584
i actually forgot to swap off of the statusmaxx (poison+bleed+frost) build i was using for gigadel and it was not useful at all against him, was praying i'd godroll into something good as soon as i touched ground and i ended up having to choose between the wending grace and a RoB

>>528873993
>That fucking dash at the end
Kek.

Genuienly what is the point of revenant when Recluse gets free fp charge and has the same S scaling in FTH lmao

>>528874853
don't go to the basement dog...do the top

bellbearing has the metal armor defense profile (weak to pierce and lightning)

first time, first try gg guys

>>528876815
if this is the way you look at it, there's no point in elaborating

>>528875239
If you can read that and write it off as vaati bullshit then you clearly never cared that much about elden ring's story to begin with, which would explain your retarded stance on it. You don't remember the events from the game, how the characters were portrayed in these scenes. You can somehow take being told that malenia needed to march to caelid with a full on army just to kill radahn to revive him as a slave without questioning it at all or how it results in a chain of strange and incomprehensible actions for every party involved, including when the player character is put in the mix. You can't fathom how the character who most wants to ascend to the throne in the traditional way that plays into the status quo would be at odds with the characters who most want to uproot the whole system at any cost. These games are traditionally enjoyed by people who love to speculate and question findings, yet you are content to accept whatever is the newest and latest explanation without a second thought as to how everything fits together as puzzle. That's literal vaatidrone behavior.

>>528876815
Recluse is for Int style mage gameplay while Revenant is for faith style missionary (position) gameplay.

>>528876815
nothing
revenant is a grief pick

>>528876584
NTA but hoarfrost/new horse relic or moth relic/golden seed heal on roar relic are probably his meta.
You can build dog 50 times over and don’t have to rely on weapon luck

>>528876834
>do the top
>skip basement entirely
>BBH at the top instead

Best skin for each, this is factual so do not bother refuting it.

Wylder: Lion Knight
Guardian: Wayfarer
Ironeye: Sellsword
Duchess: Darkness
Raider: Remembrance
Revenant: Dragon School
Recluse: Darkness
Executor: They all suck

Additional free tip.
Instadodge skins:
- Darkwraith Duchess
- Artorias Wylder
- Solaire Guardian any Guardian desu
- Darkness Rev

>>528876815
Animation lock. Optimal Recluse play is ignoring her skill completely and munching shards like a Revenant. Also Recluse struggles getting seals in her loot pool

>>528876728
>>528876876
Thanks lads
>>528876924
I hated Executor's dawn skin at first but it grew on me a lot.

wow that was dogshit
i guess for all nightlords the weakness will no longer do anything

>>528876924
>Revenant: Dragon School
People who don't love rev don't deserve to comment on what's best for her, what pure hearted rev fan DOESN'T love the sound of her tippy tap doll feet??

>>528876924
Recluse has no bad skins they're all godlike. The worst one is Emerald and mainly because it has a lot of overlap with Dawn but Dawn just looks better.

>>528877007
at phase 1 it still interrupted his ground spears shit so lightning helps

>>528876920
not the top boss, the enemies on the middle 2 floors, jeez. the ones that give a million fuckin runes

>>528876941
>Also Recluse struggles getting seals in her loot pool
You have to be That Guy and take the seals from the churches and shacks that the rev or guardian might want to get the ball rolling. You'll still get shitty seals.

>>528876941
still better than Revenant in literally every single way though

kek

>>528877014
Rev looks good in her school uniform. Her hair is done very nicely.
All her outfits are great and I say this as someone that gets weirded out by the gothic lolita doll look.

>>528877063
all you need is 1 lightning pot or somethin. he's only 20% weak to lightning so it's not a big deal what you bring, just no holy. he's properly weak to EVERY normal status so bleed away

>>528877157
yeah i was wondering about that one

>>528877182
Yeah, Revvy is better than every other class because her outfits are all unique and cute

>>528876815
experimental character concept for the secret horror game fromsoft is working on

>>528877154
Read my post again

>>528877157
he shoots like a black man

>>528877182
you're supposed to get weirded out, she's a horror character

>>528876941
i don't get this optimal meme
the game doesn't even record how long it takes you to kill
the content is more than easy enough that every character playing somewhat decently can clear it
like if you want to just bring a bunch of starlight shards and find one spell and cast it all the time to be 5% faster do it but at that point i wonder why people even play this game

>>528875549
>Miquella's cut storyline
Just another retard that thinks cut content invariably means "original, perfect vision" and not literally anything from any stage of development that was revised, retooled, repurposed, or just plain left out for literally any reason.

>>528876867
Huh I guess the soul of cinder is an idiot because what if he had a bunch of jobbers go on the quest for lord souls. I guess frampt and kaathe are idiots because what if the chosen undead couldn’t beat the Capra demon. The moon presence couldn’t have become an outer gif if the hunter was a shitter. DaS2 protag was a chad and forged his own path.
Radhann was maybe holding the stars in place to avoid becoming Miquella consort. He believed Malenia would’ve got the job done or atleast gave him cancer. Miquella theoretically does just rot in the Tower of Babel if you don’t fight radhann or mogh, which is why you need to beat them to trigger his dlc. You simply have to accept the protagonist of souls games typically does cause massive changes in the world and a lot of things hinge on them achieving their goal. Otherwise Miquella honestly beloved his allies could’ve got the job done

>>528876351
I don't think it's as weird as you say. Elden ring's story is ultimately about conquest and starting a new era under the ideals you've come to develop over the course of what you've experienced in your journey. Those who paid extra mind to the land and people they were assigned with conquering can come away with enough of a perspective and knowledge to mend the order or abandon it. It differs from dark souls in that way, and I think it makes sense that the closer you are to finalizing your conquest the quicker you dispose of the final few rivals. It can come off as a little boss rushy, but the final people you take out are the ones most immediately in the way at the end. All rivals have to be disposed of before you can take the throne, and the remnants of the previous order have to be thoroughly stamped out.

>>528877284
It better be Bloodborne 2.
>>528877317
Meds
>>528874024
They’re fuck buddies is what they are

>>528877278
A few characters have mostly good outfits. Raider has all unique outfits, Recluse has mostly good ones and some top tier ones. Ironeye sucks because he stands like an incel for his heavy quiver on all outfits. Wylder gets all great outfits. Guardian gets amazing normal outfits and trash throwbacks. Duchess seems meh. Executor has great dawn/dark outfits.

>>528877329
it does record expedition time tho, scroll down on the timeline

I only beat gigadel 3 times

>>528877460
Wylder's outfits all look the same with recolours to me

>>528877329
>he game doesn't even record how long it takes you to kill
It does though?

Sometimes it's just faster/safer to eat a shard and continue spamming instead of getting locked into a long animation for minimal gains,,,

>>528877460
>Raider has all unique outfits
raider's outfits are recolors with different hats.

I ship Wilder and Duchess
>but they're siblings
even better

>>528874147
Miyazaki is the not the one responsible For those designs pretty sure
>>528874302
Based
>>528874608
What an incredible way of putting it. Couldn’t agree more. Well said.
>>528874836
It’s still gay.

>>528877406
It feels like how a chess game (the game of kings) is played out in an actual game
>early game based on pure theory - no one is thinking for themselves yet
>middle game - theory abandoned, new game happening you have to adapt to
>end game - flurry of captures and gambits ending in a checkmate

>>528876815
Makes it easy to spot griefers and memelord shitters

>>528877565
Japs wouldn't specifically make duchess an adopted sibling if they didn't want to seriously imply that they would fuck (ethiclly)

>>528874906
most people wince at the sight of satan yes
>>528875581
what

>>528877489
>>528877523
that changes nothing, you aren't getting anything for beating it 1 minute faster
>minimal gains
casting a fun spell is a gain in my book
casting a spell that is good for a certain situation like flamethrower when both melees are low or iceblock to clear a camp or warming light to trivialize wormface's death buildup is fun and makes you feel the mage fantasy of finding a spell in your toolbox for a given situation
FUN

>>528877329
It's not even just being "optimal" it's more so just more fun if you don't have to mess with cocktails all the time. I find it way more fun to spam out moons as fast as possible without needing to farm out the FP for it. That inherently means that the skill is going to be a limiter for how I wanna play the character. Nothing wrong with cocktails I just find them more annoying to manage over just using shards like Rev

Just like gigadel, there's been a ton of people today i have never seen or played with before on the rrg pass.
Are these people the one-and-done type who returned just to kill it to say they did, or are these lurkers who play with friends/randoms who couldn't kill it without erg?

>>528877565
turning yourself into a zombie doesn't seem like something you'd do for someone who's just a sibling desu

>>528877519
They do but the dawn one being kind of majestic and the darkness one being pretty dejected has some flair to it.
>>528877535
They are but the helmets are pretty cool looking. His remembrance pops for him the most, it changes his look entirely and has cool lore relevance.

>>528876073
Good post with good image of my frustrated wife

servers fixed yet for PC?

>>528877723
if you don't like cocktails then there really is no reason for you to pick rev over duchess

>>528876815
so this means Revenant does need a buff, right?
she is "fine", she is "functional" but definitely lagging behind

>>528877814
haven't had any issues today
also that's me in the picture btw

>>528877814
they're okay, much better than earlier today

>>528877516
Im 38 and I killed him so much I cleared the entire shop and start gambling on the gatcha. Who do you play?
>>528877867
do you like old fat men?

>>528877814
Works for me

>>528876351
>>528876475
Finally, some good points made.

>>528877815
Nigga when I play Recluse I want the fantasy of playing as a big hat lady chucking blue shit at people. What does Duchess have to do with this?

>>528876412
A new player can take a look at the dlc and feel something is off so that is not the case. Before it came out there were leaks multiple projects were condensed, many things in the files have names indicating they were meant to be used for something else, they drop new revelations like messmer and melina are siblings then patch it out later entirely. Messmer is ultimately inconsequential to miquella's plotline and has nothing to do with him, and likely doesn't even know he is there. Countless players have already commented on all of these things and more for so long that it's long been a dead horse. We've also played these games for over a decade now and are accustomed to this kind of thing. At the end of the day the lore is secondary, everything working as intended is something that is more convenient to say than having tangible weight. These games have never released with everything being as it was intended. The new lore revelations aren't really meant to fit into the story seemlessly at all and they pose countless problems once you begin nitpicking.

>>528877831
Not really. People play her as a pure caster or as an unga bunga when the middle ground is probably where her failings get shored up the most.
If you take smaller melee weapons and a medium shield to hold when you aren't spamming your spells you will probably end up with some decent FP regen on x actions that your blocking and attacking will proc.
A rev slapping something with a sacred celebrant's cleaver and FP regen on successive attacks isn't going to be crying about FP management as much.

>>528877702
>make claiim
>claim is refuted
>that changes nothing
OK

>casting a fun spell is a gain in my book
What if you were just collecting shit for FP and the cocktail result locks you into a five second animation for a situationally useless spell?
And then you get combo'd to death because you couldn't dogge.
That's not FUN

>>528877461
gg, shielding his shit is peak cinematic mode experience

to beat nu-libra you will have to denounce the talmud

>>528877461
>Wyler and Duchess playing 'I'll show you mine if you show me yours' while Executor is none the wiser

>>528877405
>Huh I guess the soul of cinder is an idiot because what if he had a bunch of jobbers go on the quest for lord souls. I guess frampt and kaathe are idiots because what if the chosen undead couldn’t beat the Capra demon
Not the same thing anon. The Soul of Cinder gets fed ashen undead because of Gwyndolin/Lothric's scheming, and Londor always manipulating undead to try and take the First Flame for themselves, only to lose to it. Frampt and Kaathe waiting for an undead strong enough weeds itself out, and is necessity of circumstance. These were plans enacted after the fact to make sure the status quo lives on.

Miquella's plan requires him to have thought so far ahead that the Tarnished would indeed return, requires him to have always had in his backpocket the plan with Radahn, requires him to have always figured Mohg would cum for him and that would be his in to the Land of Shadow, etc. It makes Miquella's character go from sympathetic to just unbelievable. He was always ahead of everybody, but not in a cool way that interacts with the player.

The best point by far however is what >>528874581 said about Miquella, instead of rejecting the whole of it, just follows in his mother's footsteps completely by using Enir Ilim to become a god. He's supposed to realize it's ALL bad, and it should ALL be uprooted, but Miyazaki and the gang had a product to ship so they hamstrung their imagination.

>>528878160
Don't bully my doll :(

>>528877086
no one is that guy, pal

B in arcane means 12
A means 13
S means 28

>>528877461
Executor player, relics plox.

>>528878069
nu-Libra's new 2nd phase will be committing false flag attacks against America to get them to declare war on you

>>528878035
You didn't get the story it looks like. You think everything is routed into miquella which shows a fundamental misunderstanding of most of your issues.
>melina's link to messmer was to solidify the eyes and demigods being an indicator of something
>messmer was used to show that marika had yet another keikaku plot revolving around conquest set up that worked

Structuring your defense around vox populi is weak faggot stuff. Argue for yourself not as a mouthpiece for an imagined "countless players."

>>528878213
just put fucking numbers i hate japs

>>528877326
well then they did a shit job the only horror part about her isn’t even usually visible

>>528878223
All you have to do is make it in limveld

>>528877934
I main executor because I like sekiro but melee was too much for this boomer against him so I switched to recluse. Got my first kill on executor and I basically just spent the whole fight deflecting and reviving people because I couldnt keep up with the boss.

>>528877814
They finally seemed to fix the network errors about 6 hours ago. Still noticing some in-game lag though, but no longer anything crazy.

>>528877814
>kinky but you would never guess
>dressed like a litteral whore
ye who would have guessed

>>528878029
recluse's entire character design is the magic cocktail
if you don't like the magic cocktail what is left? visual design and her ult which is kinda middling compared to cocktail

>>528878042
yes because my claim rested on "there's no way to time runs" and not "who cares if you're a bit slower or not", c'mon dude
>What if you were just collecting shit for FP and the cocktail result locks you into a five second animation for a situationally useless spell?
you're a bit more careful or you wait until downtime to burn your cocktail, or you chuck a starlight shard because that's why you keep both. most of the time if you're just regenning FP you're going to get three of the same element because either someone is wailing on the boss with an affinity, so you're gonna get a triple of the affinity cocktail which are the ones that cast the fastest

>>528877814
>>528877945
I exclusively go after women who talk and look like that
>>528878069

>>528878035
>messmer and melina are siblings then patch it out later entirely
After looking into this uou fell for a fake it's still in the game.
Also no shot newbies have trouble understanding the dlc it's a from game.

>>528878069
That's so.ducked up we need to declare war on japan NOW

>>528878375
Only need 1 win to have the achievement

>>528878223
>he makes 2 stele if you have a Raider on the team then blows them up when the party thinks they were made by your Raider

>always played strength builds in souls games
>put 150 hours into NR
>my most played character is recluse
what is going on

>>528877934
Get off the internet gramps.

>>528878137
>Miquella's plan requires him
What if his plan was to go all in on the Haligtree?
Then the shattering happens, he's trapped in the tree egg, Malenia fumbles on getting Radahn because the situation changes, nuking Caelid in the process and Mohg using the opening for abduction.
Then nothing happens for quite a long time and the DLC events are just Miq panicking and throwing a half-assed 'plan' together last second to salvage things.

>>528878519
same but Revenant
I barely even used summons in ER

I would have let Miquella become my concubine after marrying Ranni and becoming her consort eternal.

>>528878571
It wasn't though. He recognized his tree wasn't growing pretty early on. Thats why he decides to have people pilgrimage to it to feed it power and that still doesn't work.
He ultimately never figures out the problem the same way the Hornsent never figured out theirs - they never cared.

>>528878437
>Sometimes it's just faster/safer to eat a shard
>you aren't getting anything for beating it 1 minute faster
>or you chuck a starlight shard
I see...

well done mister Negru

So far according to /erg/
>Guardian sucks
>Revenant sucks
>Recluse sucks
>Executor sucks
>Raider('s ult) sucks
Which nightfarer is next on the list to be slandered as Actually Bad? I vote Wylder, he doesn't get enough hate

>>528878684
>He recognized his tree wasn't growing pretty early on
Was this before he entered the tree-sack-egg for hibernation or during?
Can't be after because he technically never leaves

>>528878519
I used to go to my friend's house to play drunk bloodborne on his ps4. The skill translation turned out decently on my duchess.

sorry sens & mush, first time
I couldn't see the mobs for the night invasion event

>>528878571
>What if his plan was to go all in on the Haligtree?
That's what the base game seems to be going for, but the dlc makes it so Radahn was always a factor in Miquella's plans.
>The shattering happens, he's trapped in the egg
He saves Freja after the Caelid nuking so he wasn't entirely trapped.
>Then nothing happens for quite a long time and the DLC events are just Miq panicking and throwing a half-assed 'plan' together last second to salvage things.
That would be great. But we don't feel that desperation or panic, nor do we see it. Miquella is said to be in control of himself the whole time. He's not shedding parts of his body and soul in a panic, see what I mean?

>>528878807
I hope the rev saw what you were doing and assumed it would work

>>528878839
Before. He does the tree sac hibernation as the last thing to attempt after the people he shepherded to his tree didn't help either. Like with the castle sol situation there Miquella lied to people about why he wanted something done so the magic that would produce the results for him wasn't there.

>ironeye sword and shield build
Was it trolling or a 10000 IQ move?

>>528878702
the original point was that using her skill is a waste of time, not that you should never use starlight shards

>>528878775
how could you possibly make the argument that wylder is bad? every one of his skills is at least good and he has the most hp

>>528878927
He got stupid amount of endurance and dex to pull that off just fine

>>528878863
You this guy? >>528876104
Hand over your c-tier

>>528878775
you sound tilted, all of those except for recluse arguably, is true

>>528878863
np bro, I couldn't see them either lol

>>528879013
>>528879051
Oh, you won
tch

>>528878748
thanks

wylder is so busted, he can solo pretty much everything
btw this is the everdark version of the boss

>>528879013
>>528879051
Build was mega scuffed, was hoping lightning would still stagger despite poison not working on Adel
I had +30 lightning damage on a shortbow with rain of arrows, then ended up just swapping between buffing Scepter of the All Knowing, charge attacking with godfrey axe to give me the atk buff, rotting with rapier then spamming rain of arrows

>>528879163
What language is that?

>>528879163
Wylder and Raider are ez modo.

>>528879206
baron de la nuit

>>528879206
Italian

>>528879163
>he died
do it again

>>528878137
It is the same thing. In a lot of these game the whole plot balances on the player achieving their goals. It’s not unreasonable to assume Miquella knows about the roundtable and its avengers assemble nonstop nonsense.
His plan isn’t perfect but honestly what else could he do, Malenia seemed to be on her last legs and radhann was stopping fate from occurring. He needed to throw caution into the wind and go and do what he needed to do in stripping himself of everything in the shadow

>>528878863
I was wondering why everyone ran away from the night horde. It's so rare I can't imagine skipping it.

>>528879206
Pizza language

>>528879163
AIEEE EL CAMPIONE DEL BAGLIORE NOTTURNO!
kino language

>>528879206
italian or spanish
t. european halfbreed mutt

>>528874292
It's pretty good on Raider too.
Specially since you can use his skill to not die.

>>528879180
That sounds so complicated. My start was dodge and r1

>>528877405
Miquella performing 5d chess and requiring a tarnished player to kill both radahn and mohg for him right when his allies were ready in the shadow realm for it (miquella divested his body long before the tarnished returned to the lands between in the midst of the shattering btw) is so incomparably convoluted compared to the undead prophecy from dark souls 1, don't be so willfully retarded. The prophecy is so straightforward in fact that dark souls 1 ends with giving you only two choices, that's how simple the core dilemma of the game is. Miquella is not only relying on a third party he has no control over, but he also is not even trying to influence control over it before getting killed by the end. This also doesn't explain things like why malenia would be back at the haligtree, or why she fights you with the ferocity of a mother bear and is willing to fight until her own destruction to annihilate you the moment you enter. And you can't say it's because she knows you want to kill miquella because she'd be defending the coccoon instead.

>>528879263
omw

NEVER QUEUE FOR A HARDMODE BOSS EVER AGAIN YOU ABSOLUTE TURBO SHITTER
>I'm just going to abandon my two casters to fight BBH on top of castle
>I'm just going to die to absolutely every fucking trash mob in the game
>spend half the game at stage-3
Don't come back until you can actually solo the base centaur shitter

>>528879163
>he can solo pretty much everything
Everyone can solo everything, solo is easy mode.

Wow le dude trying to be le funny meme revenant big sword but dies in one hit because she went melee range with 300hp XDD
I love normie memes XDDDD!!!!!

>>528879330
kek
idk if Duchess even benefitted from the all knowing

>>528879357
steam

>>528877814
If thats literally you in that picture, you should date me

>>528879354
he's fun to get that on desu

>>528879357
Quit having a melty

gg revenant and guardian
darkdrift's new phase seemed way easier than Adel's

Well I've cleared out the shop of every item, 150~ expedition hours, 95% + winrate with erg, all remembrances. Guess I'll see you guys next week for the rotation.

>>528879357
imagine unironically getting this mad that someone isn't as good as you at videogames

>>528879357
Lmao, of course it's a guardian. *fart noise*

>>528879357
>Revtard with meme weapon thinking it has any right to complain
>two casters
cool catalysts you got there

>>528879418
yep, gonna hit fulghor in the head with me big smashy 'ammah.

>>528879515
he just puts the blender on in melee

GG Executor and Recluse, We were a little underleveled but its okay we did our best, nice job carrying executor

>>528879708
desu the only dangerous attack is the tracking star rain

>>528879271
>It is the same thing.
>It’s not unreasonable to assume
There it is. Not the same thing. We don't assume Gwyndolin or Frampt are party to the conspiracy of the Chosen Undead, Frampt guides us and Gwyndolin props up Gwynevere. We don't assume Londor are party to a Lord of Hollows gambit, she tells us what's happening.
>His plan isn’t perfect
>He needed to throw caution into the wind
I agree it's not perfect, but we don't see that imperfection. When we meet Miquella, he's already made his choices and is in control. We never see or hear how he feels directly about his failures, and that makes him this enigmatic force instead of feeling like a character we can relate to, sympathize with, hate, or anything.

I don't have a problem with the dlc story conceptually. It's the execution that's fucked up. Like I said before, Miquella betting it all on the Haligtree, only for it to fail and he wakes up dead, and he goes fucking nuts maybe and throws caution to the wind and sheds his body in a desperate attempt at godhood? Awesome. But instead the dlc has it so Miquella wakes up in the Land of Shadow and he likely went
>Oh SHIT I can bring Radahn here now everything is fine :D

>>528879357
stop bullying people!

>>528879823
i dunno if i'd say that is his ONLY dangerous attack... he has a twinblade combo that goes on longer than any amount of stamina bar could possibly roll out of. it's quite rare that it he uses it but it is absurdly lethal if you're anywhere near him when he does.

>>528879708
I hit one of Raider's "fuck you" buttons whenever a boss starts doing anime shit so it's not a problem for me

>>528879848
bros i just want to tell morgott he did a good job

>>528879921
that one is more dangerous than it looks, it's really flashy but half the attacks go behind him, you just roll 4? times and it's fine

>>528879813
i was hoping i could survive long enough until my ult was ready to revive you two but alas...
also really should've given me that poleblade man but whatevs

tho i should say you can stand on raider stela and the entire thing misses you

>>528880023
i didnt know you wanted it lol mybad

fuck... i lost to the mega darkdrift knight..... i guess i gotta pick raider and stack damage negation passives again

>>528880023
Relics anon?

>>528879418
I make sure she gets her "15% FP on Spell Cost" giant crusher every time I see one. I swear the weights are skewed towards it.

>>528879271
His plan specifically is relying on malenia not killing radahn, he needs his followers, some of which like leda are tarnished, in the shadow realm and specifically led them there. He also apparently stopped a redmane's rot after she was killed by malenia somehow despite having divested his divine body and abducted by mohg. Iirc messmer also needs to be killed by the tarnished too to burn open the tree. It was never the plan for malenia to fully kill radahn in this version of events the dlc is trying to tell us, unless she was also needed to kill both mohg and messmer. In which case why do you need to charm mohg to take the body in the first place.

>>528879813
Nah my bad you saw me forget how to dodge and try to make use of accidental cocktails, also that ult should have landed idk if it was because of the elevation in the sand but still bs

>>528879163
true

>>528880172
oh yeah that was fucking stupid, i targeted you specifically how tf did that not rev

>>528876156
Yup, says the lot about the rest of them

I think I'm realizing the best way to play Exe is to never use the R1 or R2 of Suncatcher. Just attack normally with a weapon of choice, swap to Suncatcher when you can since it auto deflects when you swap as you're getting attacked, and only use the L2 when it's glowing, swapping back to your regular weapon when it's done.

>>528880171
>His plan specifically is relying on malenia not killing radahn
Could you elaborate on what led you to this conclusion?

im about to queue with the smol doll with big weapon

>>528880315
get the erdtree staff it has fth scaling

>>528880315
Wait for me!

>first run of gigahorse
>raider
>phase 2 starts
>use ironjar aromatic for whatever anime bullshit is about to happen
>it was all holy damage and i take 2k damage in about 1.5 seconds
welp

>>528880315
I'll be right there cutie!

>>528880080
i mean, executor is the arcane/dex class so it seems obvious right
i got shit for rng too my best weapon was a moonveil
>>528880089
i swapped from starter weapon setup to this

>>528880171
I don’t think he thought malenia would survive much longer beyond her march to radhann. I don’t think there is enough evidence to state with confidence that Miquella just seen malenia as a tool or if he pitied her. One thing I do feel is certain is that he wanted radhann dead, like how does what malenia said to him make any sense otherwise?

>>528880429
Damn I don't have these two. Thanks.

I'm glad I did one more run. Sorry to that Wylder who dc'd, but a win's a fucking win. Don't let the Ironeye know that my Godfrey Axe had the less likely to be seen by enemies attribute.

I'll say this, the dlc needed more custscenes.

>>528880380
this isnt DS1, never use ironjar

>>528880550
Read that in Phil's voice.

Help me beat the jew, erg 1/3

>>528880706
*lick* *lick* *lick*

>>528880587
it was literally the first time i ever bought one lmao

>>528880706
not sure who that is but I want to sex her

>>528880380
You could have just face tanked it with his skill.

2/3 sovereign PC no shifting earth

best shifting earth for horse?
Crater or noktaleo?

>>528881052
Idk what noklateo has to offer, but you can't do wrong with a legendary that the boss is weak to.

Samsung smart fridge 1/3 all bosses

>>528881052
Horses live in woods, man

>>528881052
you can't go wrong with noklateo
>great bosses
>free rez
and outside you have a guaranteed loretta and agheel

>>528881153
>and outside you have
>people always forgetting the trench hippo

>>528881249
i kill him before entering the city

>>528880313
What other way to take it is there? Each of the miquella followers are fairly recent arrivals in terms of events and haven't figured out that much by the time the player gets there. With the player included these people are entirely responsible for carrying out the ritual to revive radahn in mohgs body and opening the path to miquella's godhood. Nothing besides incapacitating Radahn, charming mohg, and miquella divesting his "flesh", which he somehow has despite having that body be necessary to access the shadowlands, has happened to progress this process. All three demigods he needed killed were killed by a tarnished. It's very dumb but it stands to reason that malenia was just meant to severely cripple radahn to be later finished off by a tarnished and miquella needed time to journey in the shadowlands on his own until he was ready. Which would make it even more dumb that malenia brought an army with her and chose to sword fight first before scarlet rotting him, and especially that miquella would ever ask malenia to use her scarlet rot for his purposes.

What would the alternative be? Malenia failed but was intended to go march to mohg afterwards and kill him next, then go to the shadowlands with her cleanrots and kill messmer? Why even charm mohg in that case then, he'd be hunted down and killed immediately. Miquella needs time for some reason and has to rely on the tarnished for some reason, and there has to be a reason his followers have to conduct the ritual and malenia can't.

>>528879357
>bird didn't even pin the camp
I don't know what's in the water today, but I've had numerous teammates run off on their own without pinging anything. If they want to play single player, they should just play it. The enemies won't have 3x the health, either.

For me? It's Malenia, True Consort of Miquella
https://youtu.be/cfxT0hDXyZc?t=66

idk who gave me the bolt of gransax but I missed like every shot with it
gg rev and duchy

Why does the game have a two player scaling but no two player mode

>>528880934
if you're point blank the vfx for the arrow rain starts outside of the FOV

>>528881768
We already have duos confirmed for a later update.

>>528881685
I once missed 3 lightning bolts on zamor, then 2 radagon's rings of light when he got knocked down and it went right over him. Just stopped attacking and let the others take care of it.

>>528881685
now you know how it feels to use Lightning Spear against him as an incant user

my first everdark fulghor run went great, thanks erg <3
>>528881685
I'm guessing that was the rev
gg!

>relics set up with lightning damage on ironeye, though im prepared to switch
>randoms lock down wylder and FUCKING GUARDIAN
>game starts, guardian doesn't even have duration on skill relics, struggles to do damage at all
>i mostly follow pings
>at some point i need to hit the mines to upgrade my lightning bow to +2
>i ping it, they ignore the ping even though it's on the way
>lose time because i need to do it alone
>they ping-spam me, and push into noklateo by themselves
>find them stuck on astel because neither of them can damage him
>wylder gets mindbroken and starts using the reddit bell while the chicken holds his shield and achieves nothing
>im here so we can finally do damage and we kill him
>we go to night 2 boss, me and wylder kill him while guardian just blocks against solders he can never kill
well, we made it this far. let's check out what they have that i missed
>wylder has Dragon King's Cragblade, nice even though a thrusting sword would go better on guardian
>guardian has a fucking blue halberd with nothing
>wylder gives him a blue lightning greatsword he had gotten before
that greatsword could've been a purple if you guys followed me 30 seconds into the mines. and you could've given guardian the cragblade. whatever.
>we go into fulghor
>no one does absolutely any damage but me
>i get focused all the time because im the only one doing damage
>i tryhard and sweat and actually manage to do lots of damage, and we always break the boss holy spears from the ground
>guardian just holds shield
>wylder gets completely mindbroken and starts spamming the reddit bell again
why me?
>they go down multiple times, i'm alone
>i hold on but go down too, boss has little health left
>we have noklateo's buff, we get back up
>they both ult and we win
they must feel so proud for doing the last hit on a boss i whittled down by myself
anyhow, got everdark fulghor first try
guardian players, don't @ me

>>528881768
Does the game have two player scaling? >>528880547 is an example of two players. Seems like the bosses have waaay less health with two players instead of three.

>>528880283
The guard counter is also useful for the stance damage, and you can use it after a Unsheathe parry.

>>528881802
me when I'm power stancing great hammers on raider and miss all my jump attacks because the range is so ass
I just want to lay down and not do anything for a while

why doesn't wylder just use the sharp side of his sword? is he stupid?

>>528880451
I don't think malenia originally said something like that there at all regardless of what from says now. It was changed like the rest of it. You'd think you'd be immediately sending someone their way if you delivered a message like "Your promised lord awaits you". Instead he gets left alive being rotted and mindless for several millennia and will just forget the message. Maybe it's meant like a taunt, they secured him by rotting him despite his defiance.

>>528881986
he's just a wandering nightfarer...

>no desert sorceress recluse skin
>no silver knight ironeye skin
>no ornstein guardian skin
>no priscilla revenant skin
What are they doing

>>528881920
Every time a guy disconnects on me the following bosses become piss easy

>>528881978
Good to know.

fulghor is too easy
what now bros
you can tell they saw people were struggling with adel and they casualized the hell out of this one

SHE FUCKING WON

>>528880283
Using the regular attack is nearly always bad, but the guard counters are solid and fast

wow that was some gay shit man

>not moving out immediately after looting Night 1 boss and touching grace
Why are randos so afraid of the reign?

>>528881920
It does. The immediate thing you will notice is that the enemy will stagger pretty easily.

>>528882270
the night is scary

>>528882270
to the reign, I say neigh

>>528882218
>black knife on Duchess
Easy fucking win. L2 > Triangle + L2. Rinse & repeat.

>>528879163
Minchia

>>528881876
Guardians are dogshit. I'm willing to bet that 90% of the time I actually fail an expedition it's because there is a bird faggot on the team. It's gotten to the point where I won't even queue with them anymore. I'd rather restart the game.

>>528873449 (OP)
Alright buddies, time to post em

>>528882459
lol

>Think Adel is the hardest boss and Fulghur is most unfun
>The past 2 weeks
Wheres my Gnoster.... Wheres libra...

1/3 giga darkdrift knight, pc
have yet to beat him

>>528882467

>>528882459
this, except executor.

>>528882459
this, except revenant

>>528882136
adel had better presentation and the tornado gimmick made his moveset harder

my dream / nightmare last night was an improvement over my actual life
i think earth is cooked.

>>528882459
yeah, literal dead weight.
the night 2 boss was outland commander and i got everyone aggroed on me at first.
i finally managed to free myself and kill the boss.
and then i saw guardian just guarding against 2 banished knights without ever killing them.
he literally just needed to grab the long duration skill relic and it would've been ez, but no. he had guard counters that he never used because he just takes damage when he does.

he can't keep aggro without doing damage, and with no aggro he's useless. they need to give him A or S on strength.

>>528882136
He was inherently casualized because he has that move where he raises his weapon and can be immediately staggered out of it. That's definitely his weakest aspect. Adel lacks such a move, so there was more time spent evading his attacks and sometimes difficult to read grabs.

Overall Adel was definitely the better superboss. What a fun week that was.

>>528882798
adel's double chomp was such bullshit

How do I consistently cast spells as revenant or duchess? I always run out of FP way too fast and I don't want to use starlight shards until the nightlord.

>skill issue
Absolutely agree. Are there relics that help manage FP or are a "must" for both of these classes to cast spells?

>>528882903
nom nom

>>528882903
Lol, get fucking nommed on

2/3 giga darkdrift knight

>>528882903
Fucking thank you. Exact same thing happened to me. I was playing Recluse, too. Those 2 piece downs are bullshit.

It's also bullshit when the player rolls backwards into AOE spam that they cannot possibly know is there.

>>528882903
nigga looks and feels like a monhun boss

Random hand of Malenia with holy negation in a chest in one of those singing ancestor people camps
GG

>>528882940
one fp bar is more than enough for most boss fights. and you can carry something fp efficient for the last half of your fp bar.

You're supposed t use melee on weak shit and save your incants for harder enemies, don't think that you're a mage, you're a hybrid as revenant

>>528882940
I just don't
I use spells until I run out of FP then I use melee

/r/ing 200% MAD on mad Libra. There's a distinct lack of shitposty content for Nightreign.

>>528882903
>the larger boss simply eats the smaller nightfarer
rules of nature, yo

like, have you guys never played a half caster in d&d or one of the 100000 games that copy it?

Darkdrift Knight is kind of a pushover lads........

>>528883214
>only resistance is holy
>weak to ALL common statuses
ezmode

>>528883204
in modern dnd, every class gets like 30 spellcasts and they just refresh every encounter

>>528883204
F/M/T Multiclass owned!

Given the obsessed retard just can't stop talking about bronies, I decided to check it out.
The obsession in question doesn't even own Nightreign.
Obsessed faggot is really just obsessed because he was btfod by the "russian brony" he can't stop taking about.

I don't understand how anyone had more trouble with adel, he was already one of the easiest nightlords and the phase 3 barely changed him
is it just meleecucks?

>>528882940
just manage your FP between sites of grace
you're free to go full blast on any point of interest boss, evergaol, or otherwise. really, the only thing you should avoid going full throttle on with your FP are things like the minibosses in the castle.
one weapon that rolled a FP reduction on spells is also often enough to give you more than enough FP for literally any fight in the game, so long as you don't use the particularly FP raping spells.
sometimes, particularly on day 1, you just won't have enough FP to make it through a fight purely casting. it is what it is, literally nothing you can do about it.

>>528883309
that's still only warlock dumbass, 5e 2024 didn't change thnigs that much

>>528883368
you come across as more unhinged than whoever this person you're schizoing is with these posts.

>>528882940
+10 mind for 3+ staves relic
+18% FP for every mage rise opened relic
dont really need more than that.

>>528883416
I only play 3.5, unlimited cantrips unironically makes me ill

>>528883214
True, almost locked down seven wins in a row against him but it ended up being...

>3 wins
>cocksucker who switched to guardian at the last second in the queue and threw the game
>then 3 more wins

Oh well

>>528883271
i'm waiting for best grill

>>528883402
Adel's only real threat was the random lightning bolts stunning you at awkward times, or even chain stunning if you got unlucky.
>>528882940
>duchess
>spells
if you're not spamming her dagger combos with the relic unique effect, you're griefing.

>>528883204
Yeah, why?

We still won despite me embarrassing myself twice in the fight.

>>528883430
You have been shitting this general up ever since you have been banished from /v/.

I've never seen anyone die to the giant arrow.
For an ultimate move, it kinda sucks.
He should shoot out three arrows at 3 different locations at once and you have to avoid all 3.

>>528880547
You're not supposed to use the R1s with that weapons.

>>528883581
All good, the twinblade flurry is a blender on squishy nightfarers if caught in it.
I also missed my ult because sometimes during his twinblade attacks it's like fulghor loses his lock-on and starts attacking and advancing in some random direction no one is in.
gg, he still died really fast.

>>528883638
I'm not whoever this person is, and i'm not reading any of these images you keep spamming, just someone who sees you doing this every single time I open the thread.

uhmm what strat is this? recluse sisters?

>>528883402
Raider destroys him with his skill though

>>528883640
it has always managed 1 kill every single time i see it unless it is targeted on me in my games so far, including my wins.
i play with randoms though, so it is to be expected.

>>528883640
>He should nuke the whole arena

>>528883402
ir*neye players aren't allowed to talk about the difficulty of anything

>>528879357
You sound fat

I have like 50 clears on adel now but I can’t imagine getting that many on centaur man. This fight is kind of easy but it’s not very fun.

>play with duchess
>turn around
>see this

explain yourself duchess players

>>528883725
The not paying attention and accidently running out of FP strat

>>528883725
big hat smol weapon

>>528883789
i have nothing to say..

>>528883714
Your behavior pattern didn't change at all.

>>528883581
>>528883694
lightning go brrr
but I had to do the most asinine routing to finally get that after ~12 seals

>>528883725
don't talk smack about mommy

>>528883204
yes and it sucks in bg3 and Pathfinder

>Fight horse man as Ironeye
Man, i never realized how busted his marking skill is with how much bullshit you can get away from
>>528883725
the "ah shit, i forgot to use cocktail, and i don't have a melee weapon" strat

>>528883828
crystal shards at start of expedition are one of my favorite things to run on recluse now because of this.

>>528883725
It's the "being based asf" strat

>>528883789
were you using wylder?

>>528883725
>what strat is this
passive aggressive call-out on you using a meme build

>>528883841
but you're too distracting...

>>528883951
>meme build
so do you want her to just sit back and cheer you guys on after she runs out of FP after the 2nd knight kill

>>528874723
>wylder is definitely a pretty boy (straight)
Wylder is definitely a pretty boy(female) (straight)

>>528883951
i think that would be pretty based of her but sadly i think she just forgot to user her skill and ran out mana..heh mana issues? never heard of them.

>>528883897
I just pick up an elemental pot at the starting camp, can just chuck it and collect residue in case I fuck up like this

>>528873549
KINO

>>528883789
I'm sorry anon.... I just cant help it... I... its just that.... *pisses all over your shoes*

>>528884039
>after she runs out of FP
Your bar is like 75% full and you already started griefing at character select

>>528883893
>sucks in Pathfinder
lies, at least in WotR

>>528883725
>>528883828
>>528883831
>>528883875
>>528883894
>>528883939
>>528883951

Everyone's so focused on the Recluse that no one noticed the "not so vengeful spirit" above her head that simply refuses to attack anything at all.

So, how's polearm centaur?

>>528884206
that's her hypeman

>>528884235
he is secretly the greatbow centaur

Does a shifting earth event prevent you from getting sentient pest/demon merchant raids?
I've been doing exclusively shifting earth runs after the update and have not seen a single raid except for Morgott.

>play with randoms
>chinese players with no relics equiped
sovl

>>528884164
>*pisses all over your shoes*
that escalated quickly, we are here to slay bosses.

>>528884235
A pubstomper and I keep getting matched with high ping chinks

do I spend my 260 sovereign sigils on gamba

>>528884285
no, one of my friends kept forgetting to use the bed, so we kept getting Mountaintop, and we got cursed day 1 on one of the runs

>it's another noklateo map with a party that severely underestimates how time consuming it is to finish episode
ah.... fighting astel in the rain.... this shit happens to me too much....

>>528884285
nah i've been doing noklateo nonstop and libra always invades me when i enter the city

>>528884314
Duchess is a pissy girl

>>528884285
I don't even get sentient pest anymore, are these events just more boss related or complete random?

>>528884398
Sure why not, I already bought everything in the sigil store so theres nothing else to use them on anyway.

>>528883204
no they haven't I have to explain dnd stuff all the time like how wizards and clerics used to buff for 5 minutes before starting combat and how simply running straight to the boss fog while you're doing that is not only wrong but insulting.
especially when I watch the 15th host of the day run head first into radagon and die when they could have just waited for 1 second for the resist holy BY SIXTY FUCKING PERCENT buff + golden vow + why aren't you using crab its the final boss retard.

as for hybrids I KNOW you all ain't been using them because you insulted me for 3 years for doing so myself, "hur why aren't you just spamming one ash of war on one stat?" because im not a metafaggot one trick pony.

>>528884465
Nobody knows how to path when the crutch castle is taken away

>>528884398
>>528884527
bro? your Shifting Earths?

>>528884690
I prefer random shifting earths. It still seems like I get one every other expedition anyway.

>queue with erg pw
>someone takes damage
wtf i thought you guys were good?

>>528884534
crab and Lord's Divine Fortification don't stack. fake buff fan confirmed

>>528884839
thats because other people ur grouped with are paying for it you fucking leech

>>528884465
>>528884639
You just keep going left and run past everything.

>>528884639
Which is funny because you don't even need the castle to get level 15. Prioritize the camps that are likely to have Stonesword keys, do evergaols, grey and red field bosses and/or whatever shifting earth event you happen to have and you get to level 15 easily without having to even go in the castle.

>>528884639
i prefer the city desu, but yesterday i got a goated castle: black knife- crucible knights and erdtree avatar

>>528877460
>Ironeye sucks because he stands like an incel
fuck you, that's the best part of his character

>>528884915
musta been one o them outsider kin Is be hearing bouts.

>>528884978
but the castle has more loot, each spear Crucible Knight / Troll / (whatever the loot pinata Banished Knight is) drops an orb that can have a blue/purple weapon or decent passive

I fucking love my Recluse relic that starts with the small pouch. Then I buy 2 more pouches from merchants during the mission and roll up on the nightlord with 14 starlight shards. I never need that many but I just like to blast everything with reckless abandon anyway.

>>528884962
Isn't the totally optimal path through the rooftops?

I already thought super adel was too easy but I did not expect super fulghor to be even easier. I liked the original version of him and was looking forward to how beefed up the everdark would be, maybe I'll feel differently if I find some bad randoms to try carrying but idk, the danger just doesn't feel like it's there and he's squishy.

>>528884957
It's always randoms, and I always carry them hard so..... Fuck eeeet.

>>528885163
>slot a Small Pouch relic in two slots
>Starlight Shards x6 relic in the third

>>528884924
im generalizing, golden vow then crab then opal (opal order doesn't matter) or for final boss divine protect
my POINT was they don't wait for any of the above, at the end of the game. you missed it, as usual.
its also been two months since i've played ER

what are some signs where you know you already lost

>both teammates run past the merchant without buying the small pouch
>no one breaks the wooden crates in flask churches

>>528881565
>Garden of Eyes Mod
Bitch have some god dammed standards

>>528884527
>>528884690
I mostly got poopy from 50 rolls, kept 17 leftover for shifting earths since they tend to be more interesting and less painful to path than rng default

>>528885428
someone fucks off immediately to do his own thing

im getting hard tunneled by the gigafulghor like im playing dead by daylight

so chat told me last night evergaol power up is the best one, what is the actual %s for the attack ups?
and do they effect casting? which ones? is magic attack up different than sorc up or do they stack?

I need to know everything about relics now.
apparently "start with stonesword key" three times does not stack, sadge.

>>528885428
>somebody picks revenant
>somebody pings the very church you drop in

>>528885505
that's me, I do that

>>528885428
but how do you know they didn't buy the pouch, you can't view their inventory
also
>doesn't hit every buffing bush for more runes / defense / resists
saving the healing berry bushes for runs through the rain is OK

>>528885428
Someone picks guardian in the character selection

>>528885630
lol

>>528885550
gg wylder and executioner

>>528885560
5% per gaol, affects all damage

>>528885505
Listen, my starter bow has lightning damage on it and I'm going into a mine to get the smiting stone whether you like it or not.

>>528885560
>what is the actual %s for the attack ups?
5% per evergaol, stacking multiplicatively
see other ones here: https://eldenringnightreign.wiki.fextralife.com/Relic+Effects
>and do they effect casting?
yes, attack just means damage, translation bad

>>528875905
>try taking him on with duchess, recluse, revenant, guardian, or exe.
I feel like 90% of my erg runs contain at least 2 of these, me being one of them a lot of the time.

>>528885471
You stopped right before the godroll relic

yay he's dead now ggs wylder and ironeye, I think we should've tackled noklateo sooner but I guess it worked out in the end so it's fine

>>528885689
Just ping it and we'll all do it together

>>528885765
perhaps, but I was the one who got the wylder relic earlier despite being a revenant
and I got a super good rev relic earlier specifically for memeing on fulghor

>>528885428
the two randos zip around the map so fast you could play this sound track https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LntDLGKXAFI
but you end up higher level than them with better gear because you actually kill some mobs, open some boxes, find a stone key, press triangle on the gold trees for more runes instead of you know running passed literally everything except bosses.

thats usually my indication to assume we lost.

or, player dies once, leaves. we need an "ok fuck it I quit, restart" option for when that happens within 5 minutes of the start. asap.

>>528873449 (OP)
h

>>528885713
>>and do they effect casting?
>yes, attack just means damage, translation bad
i was pretty lost on this one assuming some stuff between NR and ER, thanks for clarifying, i figured it might boost casting tools but I assumed it meant just elemental melee, because thats how it worked in elden ring.
glad its not how it works, I need to stack 3+ 3x seals, madness/blackflame spells and fire+ and evergaol up and anything else good+ all together on rev for huge damage.

>>528885630
That's not unsalvagable. There is still time for the guardian player to disconnect.

>>528885428
if you need the small pouch or some shitty greases from churches in order to win in this childrens game for babies then im worried for u

i sandbag and goof around for the first 2 days and then lock in for the final day in order to keep things interesting

>>528885568
>>somebody pings the very church you drop in
i do this and i have a 41 winstreak

Every other character gets cool skills, meanwhile revenant gets an ability that just summon retards you can't control and an ultimate that practically does nothing and feels boring.
Executor's abilities and ultimate are practically suboptimal in most cases and the ult really only works for reviving.

>people love to run evergaols
>I am the only fucking one to use a bewitching branch
They drop everywhere and make the gaols so easy

>>528885886
I think it wouldve been better with inproved initial attack instead of post damage. Since the follow up attack would stack with that buff and the physical +2 for one massive hit every time you used it. Not bad though

If your VRIL field is WEAKER than mine i will not gift you any fp shards

>>528885630
>>528886105
guardian has the highest skill curve i've only seen one good one and he solos.

>>528886148
Why? So you don't forget to pick up the sippy you literally land on?
What's the point?

>>528886170
executor's ult is useful for more than reviving
summons are good and her ult is the literal best
wtf are these takes

>put the aggro scene on guardian
>hold guard and try to tank
>the boss barely even notices my existence
why is the aggro one so shit while the less likely to be targeted one is so good

>>528886198
they work on the jail bosses? wtf?

>>528886217
don't upset the sisters let them have their little moment.

1/3 giga darkdrift knight, pc

>>528886256
its to indicate to my two minions that IM the ping commander

>>528886217
Said guardian soloing: *blocks for 45 minutes*

>>528886131
pouch is just more space for 5k, and church boxes always have gold and silver feet for free rares or more runes if you're skipping them you're wasting resources, if you're insulting people for not skipping them you are a retard. sorry not sorry.

>>528886279
Yeah, it makes the mob jails a breeze

>>528885428
Imagine bothering with those crappy consumables ever.

>>528886268
>her ult is the literal best
>worse than Guardian for revives and damage negation
>worse than Ironeye SKILL for damage multiply

>>528886342
yea im not gonna do chores since we guarantee win the run anyway lol

Relic says "attack power" not magic attack power, are we sure it works for spells and incants?

Omg I forgot I had melee weapons to revive people as recluse and I just spent so long plinking away with spells
I am so sorry ironeye

>>528886391
braindead anon

>>528886457
Yes or else it would say physical damage

2/3 giga darkdrift knight

>>528886457
yes
magic attack power is specifically (all) magic damage

>>528886170
What's what you niggers and simplifying things down to base parts? I play Executor because he's fun. That's all that matters.

>>528886489
What, no cope to refute?
Not bringing up Sebastians meme laser for 40 damage that misses 90% of the time?

>was stacking lightning negation against FULGOR
>he only deal Holy damage
wtf! what about his name!

I really genuinely despise Revenant players for refusing to pick a better character
this shit makes me angry, it's like that type of faggot in a MMO that makes your raid worse because he picks the griefer job that does shit damage

That was pretty tough actually.
It must be very annoying to deal with his giant twinblade as a melee character.

>>528886591
his name is his weakness, like achilles

>>528886620
Satisfies me to know I can make you upset from thousands of miles away.

>>528873449 (OP)
When are they going to release bloodborn on pc

>>528886591
Dark Driftking?
Would imply Dark (doesn't exist in ER) or Fire from shredding tires
Where do you get Lightning from?

>>528886723
it already is on pc

>>528886730
Yellow spears he throw at you looks like they were made of lightning or something

Me and my futa mommy and futa daughter wives after destroying the horse
we fucked after that

>>528886730
based retard

>spam like there's no tomorrow
>win
It's that simple.

Stone of Guranq is such a good incant but it flies right over the heads of mounted enemies thanks Miyazaki...

>>528886256
It gets everyone into the rhythm of how you'll be pinging and what to expect. It shows your teammates that you know what the pings are and can be relied on to communicate with them. It shows your team that you aren't asleep at the wheel and that you don't aim on meandering when you get to pathing. Some people will get confused and run off immediately if you start by pining a building.

>>528886620
you have no idea just how good faith casting is mate.
and I won't be playing recluse again for a while after getting two ironeyes canceling my cocktails in a row.
"get the fuck up" is a nice ult too.

>>528886395
you're one of those people who already have YOUR route mapped out in your head do us all a favor and play solo thanks. tired of trying to chase people like you around THE WHOLE TIME.

>>528886591
anon...

>>528886589
I think you're the same guy who brings this up everytime, and you just ignore all the numbers and use cases, what's the point lol, live in your own fantasy

I asked chatgpt for a build and strategy and I beat him first try.

Thanks for the carry Wylder and Recluse, sorry I died so much.

>>528886982
This is an RNG game, what build?

>>528886620
It can be charming and even endearing to carry a near useless big bonker Revenant through an entire expedition and watch her excitedly jump around like a retard when you kill the Nightlord. There's no joy in watching yet another furry adjacent bird faggot slowly plod forward with his shield raised doing .001% damage to anything, not holding aggro, and making everything feel like it takes twice as long to finish. It's cancer.

There a spreadsheet or doc that has the best things you can roll on relics?

>>528886873
I was laughing when fulghor decided to do two entire twinblade combos on the rev's skelly at the end there.
He had to have been missing with a bunch of those for it to live that long, yet it's clearly dangerous as hell trying to go behind him to get in melee hits during it.

>>528886315
I-I kneel, Rev-sama

>>528887041
lol

>>528886860
?

>>528886589
no rev player uses the ult for the beam, the only time its actually good is if you have TWO revs and they both happen to be out when you rez, you get a nice budget comet azur for a moment, its still not good.

use it for 3 bar revives and immortality ONLY.

>>528886946
i can sorta tell them apart by the fact that the holy one has a circle on it and the lightning one doesnt

lets fucking go revbros
>all in a different skin
god run inc

>>528885630
>open steam
>Singapore, Indian, or Vietnam flag/name

>>528886217
If he exclusively plays on easy mode then he's not as good as you say. Even I don't think guardian is that shitty in solo, he's maybe a B tier there. In a team he's an F tier, he's cancerous and the whole time you'll be praying he leaves so the boss' health scales down to a level easily handled by the two remaining characters that actually pull their weight.

>>528887114
I use it for damage unless I think the run is sketchy

>>528887105
google translate is dogshit try DeepL instead.

>make it to the final boss near perfectly
>2 bosses on night 2, smooth sailing
>someone doesn't skip door cutscene
>game now stuck on infinite loading bar
Stolem

>>528886997
Np bro. My heart is thumping out of my chest at that ending. Thank God we won.

>>528887105
aha but you forget that george GRRM martin wrote this game so the names are messed up as a joke
>wtf why is it jaime not jamie

>>528886968
>live in your own fantasy
I'm not claiming Rev Ult is
>the literal best
when it gets outperformed by a different ult and a fucking skill with 100% uptime

>>528887105
he might be an esl out of his depth cut him some slack.

>>528887105
retard
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/fulgor#Latin

>>528887062
1. More runes
2. Shared items
3. Shared flask heals
4. Class specific passives
5. Weapon status/element change (if you plan on upgrading to exploit boss weakness.

Everything else is garbage and anyone saying otherwise can be ignored.

>>528886170
Executor's Ult is a full heal + iframe + stagger on the finisher if you don't want to use the dog form, and that makes it charge back quicker anyways.
With the roar relic it's also an AOE heal + damage.
It's by far the strongest Ultimate in the game, probably so Executor has something to deal with status immune enemies.

>>528883789
>>528883841
>>528884028
I think I want to have sex with my sister

>>528886620
The few experienced Revenant players I do see these days always carry, and can go on solo without dying. Don't know whats wrong with Ironeye players though

Can someone, in detail or with a video that they agree with 100%, provide me info on why Revenant is considered so bad? I didn't touch her until I finally did her remembrance, which was the last character I did because I had no interest in her. But I loved her story so much I started playing her often and I don't really get why she's bad. I mainly play Recluse and Duchess before her, if that helps any.

>>528887407
>+ stagger on the finisher if you don't want to use the dog form, and that makes it charge back quicker
EH? It doesn't drain the whole gauge when you transform and just use the L2?

>>528886217
Agreed on the skill curve part, a bad guardian is fucking useless. His skill cap is still very low though.

When does the centaur drop?

>>528887364
What about Improved Initial standard / taking attacks improves attack power?

>>528887585
in 2 hours except that was the wrong date and he's actually up now

>>528887585
Uh
Luke -12 hours

>>528887513
Nope.
You should always use the finisher.

>>528887062
depends on character a lot of the time, like skill cooldown is incredible for duchess but doesn't even work on anyone who has a form or stance with it (rev, executor, recluse)
start with key is always good
everyone rune up is good in coop
weapon starts with X, and element/status is good depending on boss (my fave is poison on start + poison rot boost, from pest relic, like rot exultation in ER)

fp/hp on crit/successive/on taking useful for different characters

there are a lot of things you can do with relics for builds

>>528887407
Okay, at least birdfags and revfags can agree that we aren't as delusional as this guy

>>528887452
recluse has the same faith scaling as revenant. so you just use Recluse and play her as revenant but better.

>>528887452
Homos like to minmax instead of just having fun.

>>528887407
I think executor's ult is amazing with so much versatility but I still think ironeye's is the best. You're right though about each of the dog's positives.

>>528887452
She's a straight downgrade from Recluse in every single measurable way. That said, play who you want - the game is easy.

>>528887452
Rev isn't bad per se, but she is definitely worse than half the cast. She is squishy af, doesn't have reliable FP recovery and bad stats for melee. Her summons are mid against powerful enemies, and her passive is non-existent against bosses.
I'd place her higher than guardian and at the same level as Duchess. She does great damage with faith spells and her ult is strong

>>528887570
i wouldn't call learning how perfect blocks work for max optimization very low skill cap but sure, he is a tank if you are tanking you should* have a lot of room to work with

sadly if you get unlucky with stamina regen you are going to get stomped on either way. if you're still just blocking, and don't know about the dodge blocking. or block frames, or that two handing shields is incredibly busted.

>>528887642
Holy dicks thank you.

>>528887452
shes not, she is easily the most powerful character if you build right
>>528887762
unless ironeye is reseting your cocktails with every arrow then she is useless. her ult is trash aswell.
oh she gets int as well as faith too bad int spells have always sucked.

>>528887917
>too bad int spells have always sucked.
Stars of ruins will literally do more damage than the two other players can do combined lol.

>>528887917
If you can't time your cocktails off of your own hits then maybe guardian or ironeye are more your skill level. The rest of your post makes sense after realizing you can't do the most basic of things required to play her.

>>528876104
tfw D tier and goated
>>528886529
you're the one simplifying things here. They are making it complicated

>>528888038
Stars of Ruin is good but it's not THAT good. Comet Azur and Meteorite of Astel are the spells that do that.

>>528888103
Fuck you.

>>528888119
>Comet Azur
*jumps around*

>>528888038
if you said collapsing stars or rykards i might have taken you seriously, just spam blue is why I hate pure int casting, you don't know how.
use ghostflame and magma for real damage.

The world record speedrun team is literally 2 revenants and an ironeye

>>528888189
mb will do

What are the limitations of Duchess's restage? Will it restage Ironeye's mark damage? Can I restage a restage?

>>528888260
>Will it restage Ironeye's mark damage?
Yes but if you did that you'd be stupid.
>Can I restage a restage?
No.

>>528888087
its nothing to do with timing, the randos ironeye arrows hit faster than it shows the element changing so by the time you suck its the wrong element. they are an anti synergy and you are why im casting blue lines instead of infinite fp field or gravity explosion.

I can cocktail just fine just not with ironeyes around because they ruin it every fucking time.

dont call me a low skill player again ill burn your house down.

>>528888236
Do you have any source to back that up?
https://www.speedrun.com/Elden_Ring_Nightreign
keeps getting delayed

>>528888038
>>528888119
Comet>>>Stars of Ruin>Comet Azur>Meteorite of Astel

Regular Comet fucks hard, plus a single charged cast of that or Stars of Ruin will revive a downed single bar teammate.

>>528888236
is it actually
last I saw it was ironeye/duchess/recluse

>>528883893
half casters actually do suck in bg3 that's true

>>528888119
Comet is a noob trap, no boss will stand still for that long, it requires too much setup and manaconsumption so it's actually bad dps/fp.
Stars of ruin is strong because it's fast, cheap and high dps.

Any hidden changes, nerfs, etc with the Nughor addition? I heard they changes the Nok shifting event, anything else??

Who is lurking in the roundtable??

>>528887652
>>528887762
Sure, that makes some sense. But Recluse cannot have big skeleton to tank, she can't heal her two allies with her ult, she can't pick up two people who are already level 3 down. Cocktails take too long to cast and almost all of them are a DPS loss. FP isn't an issue on Revenant, for me at least so not being able to suck FP isn't really helpful. Recluse ult is good, but I think Revenant's is better. So why recluse over rev for incants?
>>528887798
She is squishy. So is Recluse and Ironeye, but like both of them you shouldn't be in melee very much anyways. Reliable FP recovery? You know every mage tower gives AT LEAST 2 shards? I've never had a Rev game where I didn't have 6 shards that I got on my own, no relying on others at the pre boss room. Bad stats for melee? I mean her STARTING weapon is one of the best at rezzing people, has an S scaling for Faith. The only downside it has is no passive, but honestly it's her second best in slot melee weapon after the light sword, the name I forget. Coded sword? Her summons aren't the best, but honestly I think they're better than almost every cocktail the recluse can make. Her passive isn't great, it's good against night 1 and 2 bosses as they always have adds before they spawn, but ironeye doesn't have a passive but he's considered the best character in the game.

I'm not some weird doll creep fanboy who wants his waifu to be good. I like her remembrance and I enjoy her playstyle, but I don't care about her enough to pretend she's bad. I'm a tittymonster enjoyer, but even after these posts I still struggle to understand what makes her bad. Like every character, I think the game gives you everything you need to make them strong. Except maybe Guardian, and I only say that because I have like 10 games played on him and I hate his broken wing clipping through everything so I don't really understand him like I do Revenant.

>>528887246
Correction, it loaded eventually and dropped me in mid fight watching our wylder solo the boss for what I con only imagine was an impressive length. However the boss and all extra assets other than him and the map+skybox were not loaded so I had watch him ghostbox until faghor loaded. Holy kek what a game

>>528884534
but fth build in ER is literally the same playstyle as revenant because all the best dps comes from skill instead of spells; at least, in base ER. knight lightning spear goes kinda hard

>>528888548
>Comet is a noob trap
Comet Azur is the trap
Comet fucks shit up

>>528888412
Stars of Ruin is pretty much the perfect spell for Recluse considering how her abilities work.
It also works extremely well with the rally relic, which makes her way tankier than she has any right to be.

>>528888548
>caring about FP consumption on recluse
duchess main detected

>>528888579
No anon, you see, if you don't play EXACTLY like me then you suck.

>>528887452
She is good, probably upper echelon of characters if you can utilize her strengths well enough
Pretty rough in solo though overall because a number of incants become too clunky to utilize effectively, so you have to change how you play a decent deal and work a bit harder to overcome rng and of course actually know a lot of enemy patterns since you will be the target
Can still rely on summons to get periodic big incantations off though, the nightlord is the least of your worries in a solo rev run

>>528888617
>ER is literally the same playstyle as revenant
ER FTH build is having maxed vigor and full heavy armor because your equipment weights 0 units, walking into the boss fog with 60%+ negations to everything from buffs, and skullfucking the boss to death with whatever element it's weak to.

Revenant is running around like a headless chicken for 40 minutes and then using the bell against the Nightlord.

>>528888579
>Recluse is better if you need a tank and your team keeps dying
yeah that's a skill issue
>cocktails suck
again that's a skill issue, use the ones that don't suck
>fp isn't an issue on rev
it's not an issue for any character

>>528888843
>Revenant is running around like a headless chicken for 40 minutes and then using the bell against the Nightlord.
Yeah, thats the meme that doesn't exist in reality

>>528888617
>all the best dps comes from skill instead of spells
giantsflame, "tempest", red lightning, and swathing are all about on par with silluras tree actually and then black blade.......man whatever if you want to spam l2 in current year go ahead, I have shit to do. I don't need to explain faith caster good I know already.

>>528888869
So by your comment, the reason Revenant is bottom tier is because Recluse can shit out 3 or 4 good cocktails and that invalidates the other character entirely.

>>528888975
What a bully

>>528888947
BFT, blasphemous blade, doot horn (medium), coded sword spam, especially the first 2, cost way less fp and do way way more damage than incants. i did an incant only run. tho spamming dragonclaw has good dps.

I don't know how to dodge anything Fulghor does in his second phase and I breathe a sigh of relief when he goes into everdark mode

>>528888646
I dropped both phases of Heolster combined in under 2 minutes with Stars of Ruin. My teammates were just standing around like wtf. They didnt even get a chance to do anything.

But I've seen two Recluses using regular Comet absolutely shit on Heolster so hard he barely even had a chance to fly up into the air for his big attack.

>>528887830
it does drain the whole gauge but you don't need the whole gauge to cast it

>>528889070
stop talking to me like I didn't use all of that shit I know what does what.
faith casters are broken. ashes of war in NR aren't that good. i've HAD fucking coded AND spells on rev at the same time, spells are better.

>>528887643
Guess I'm wondering for wylder. This is what I got going on though was hoping to change the blue to something more party oriented like flasks heals allies.

>>528889165
comet is the best dps in normal ER too so that's not surprising, you need to take stamina upgrades or else you won't be able to spam as much

>>528889182
i'll stop talking to you like an idiot when you stop being wrong

deal with it

>>528888978
That's not what I said at all but you beat up that strawman little buddy

I am a revenant
what the heck is going on

>>528889305
fuck you

>>528889446
>what is happening post
why do discord sisters do this when they get upset at the situation they made? I've noticed it happen ITT for months.

Executies biggest issue is that there is literally only 4 Dex weapons that are better than the starting katana that aren’t rot procers and one Dex weapon that is only better for if you have all your passive dedicated towards it. Even then you probably want to keep it in your bag for the art. It makes runs too formulaic and makes picking up non status Dex weapons pointless for the most part

>>528889446
midwit melty

>Character asks recluse if she'd be capable of killing her own child
>next quest step is to beat the night aspect
Headcanon: supported

>>528889508
what discord?
>>528889508
I see some crazy misinformation

>>528889508
im from the steam group not the discord

>>528889612
your discord, sister.

>"damn my team so ass they just stand around"
>"why am I fighting this boss alone?"
>"are they fucking afk right now?"
My current situation:
litter.catbox.moe/q3w9yphn2iwg2jp5.mp4

I wish sleep and madness were more relevant

Queue up for Hard Fulghor bros

@zdrada and Endless GAWDS!

>>528889520
it depends on this skill, if you get impaling thrust, piercing fang, giant hunt, etc. you're in business

>>528888975
do you think Guardian gets jealous seeing other birds fly?

Just got on and ready to try Everdark Fulghor. How are his spam moves in Phase 3?

>>528889612
>I see some crazy misinformation
that's just revcope

>>528889520
making frost scale on arcane was a mistake

another ez giga fulghor run done well done bros
wylder, what happened? you left right before we fought him, it's good you came back though
>>528889718
my favorite recluse :D

>>528889860
significantly easier than adel

>>528889172
It doesn't, wtf are you talking about?
You can test it both in the training area or during an expedition.

>>528889859
Surely.

do you have to jump the delayed ground thing when he's charging or something? can't roll it for shit

>>528889648
My discord is yys
how is that relevant though, I dont like to socialize in group places like that, too shy
>>528889070 as someone who has used just about every thing on every boss, I assure you the weapon arts are generally worse than premium incants in their respective affinity, they are a sorta I have to use it cause I got nothing better deal

>>528889979
if you use it without infininte super on it'll end the ult

Bell bearing hunter is absolutely retarded

>>528890024
sprint to the side then roll last second if you have to
>>528890043
thats nuts!

>>528890024
Either run up to him so you have more time to sprint away after rolling his charge, or run so far away that he doesn't charge into you at all

>>528890043
>retard is discordtranny
Sad!

Is no one playing or are the servers broken? I've been queueing with erg password on Everdark Fulghor for 10 minutes sitting at 1/3.

>will never be as cool and tall and as handsome as wylder
why life? i just want to be a cool knight guy

>>528890024
surge sprint out of it

We're shitters.. aren't we, can't win with rev a class that requires actual skill to be good at... I deserve D

>>528890043
wanna hold hands?

>>528890192
>and tall
you're not 5'7"(+)?
bro...

>>528890142
it's not primetime yet for EU and NA is waking up

>>528890070
But the gauge isn't depleted. It's left about 15 or 20%, which is awesome. I hadn't known that before. Super useful to know.

>>528890192
Wylder is a manlet.

>>528890257
>and NA is waking up
evident by thread quality tanking

Estocs, whips, twinblades, curved swords, reapers, flails (this one tied with Wylder), daggers, all with or without any status do the most damage in terms of raw AR with Executor

>>528890227
I am werkin... out
>>528890117
totally

>>528890249
I'm exactly 5'7"
I look like my mother

>>528890372
Eww

>>528890142
oh no

>>528889446
I love Revenants

i just seen the 4th guardian in 100 games, he rage quitted

I have heard rumors that the centaur is not hurt by lightning damage.
Is it true?

>>528890249
nta but 6'1 and I'm a shitter who runs enjoys ES runs with my fellow sp/erg/s

fuck you mari

>>528890460
*meowri

>>528890453
you can stagger him still but once he enters phase two he won't do his channeling stance

>>528890453
i think you need to look a little closer at the element icon

>>528890369
werk out your butt on my lap

>>528890423
lol
>>528890453
no

>>528890346
What about heavy thrusting swords and spears? They both also have a b/c split like twinblades.

whats ur problem 60

>>528890454
ES runs?

Did stars of ruin get nerfed? Or are people here just shitposting. Haven't gotten to try it against Nughor yet

perish

>>528890453
His resists are the same.
t. just raped him with a lightning bow

>>528890540
It's not hip thrusts day anon..

Adel was not hurt by poison
Ergo Fulgor is not hurt by lightning

>>528890453
No if he does his charge attack where he chains you up and sky lasers you then lightning will stop the attack and stagger him

i know u guys are here
>>528741128
>>528741128
>>528741128
>>528741128
please come home
i dont want to interact with ergites anymore

>>528890701
hit me up when it's hip thrust and/or squats day

>>528890540
>>528890227
kys mush, groomer

akira is sex
you are not sex
end of discussion

>remove all resistances and give them one op move
>call it hard mode
bravo, C team

>>528890805
thats nuts bronybro

Apparantly Faghor is resistant to holy but that didn't stop him from getting absolutely shrekt by 3 Redditbells at once. The Duchess and Recluse I could understand, but we even had the Raider ringing a bell too. Kek

dont reply to me again

>>528890995
AHHHHH THE BELL NOT THE FUCKING BELL!!!

>528891001
ok sorry

i will reply to you whenever i feel like it BITCH

>>528890995
bell deals magic damage in nightreign

>>528890302
oh, really? that's cool

>>528890661
still good

>>528890821
>>528890856
Take it easy anons

>>528889805
Nope, starting katana with hoarfrost and poison status is better than any of them.
Only weapons better than purple starting katana is hand of malenia, grand snacks spear, holy dagger which shoot holy rings and rivers of blood. Only Dex weapon that is better if you build towards it is red braid with massive passives.

>>528891282
I love butts

from yesterday

Had the craziest fight earlier with a wylder and a recluse
>mohg after night 2 boss
>Loading hell after gate
>2 man fight hars fulghor, recluse in loading hell
>less than half hp left
>DISCONNECT
>Load into game
>Lose a level and team is toguether
>After 2 minutes, Fulghor appears again
>Beat it
Coolest fight I had so far

get 6 times more duchess, guardian and revenant big gems than recluse...while playing recluse 95% of hunts.

fuck the rng

>>528890563
Same as Flails, Executor is better than Wylder for most of the game until like around lvl 14-15 where it evens out, still better on Executor most of the time.

I don't know why am i posting these that i noted yesterday when i couldn't play cus i was too sad. I still am and will most likely be forever so i won't feel like playing ER:Nightreign ever but i guess it can be helpful for other ppl, might do an actual chart some time instead of vague hypothesis

>>528891561
>mohg after night 2 boss
Nani?