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Previously on /coopg/ : >>529385493

>Latest News/Updates:

Vermintide 2:
New Map: The Well of Dreams - Live now! Skulls In-game Event - Patch 6.6.0
https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/new-map-the-well-of-dreams-live-now-skulls-in-game-event-patch-6-6-0/108063

Darktide:
Free Update: Battle for Tertium - Out Now! (Patch Notes)
https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/free-update-battle-for-tertium-out-now-patch-notes/109117
Hotfix #70 (1.8.2)
https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/hotfix-70-1-8-2/110096

>Acknowledged but not really discussed
Ready Or Not
Starship Troopers Extermination
Aliens: Fireteam Elite
Killing Floor 2
Barotrauma
Left4Dead 2
SCP: 5K
GTFO
No More Room in Hell 2
Helldivers 2
Space Marine 2
Remnant 2
Payday 3
Back4Blood
Deep Rock Galactic
Earth Defense Force 6
WWZ
The Outlast Trials
The Forever Winter
Firebreak
Wildgate
and others

>Future games
Killing Floor 3 - delayed
https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1430190/view/499441143215293470
Den Of Wolves - TBA
DarkSwarm - TBA
Blight: Survival - TBA
Jump Ship - TBA Demo Out

Build planners:
Vermintide 2: http://ranaldsgift.com/
Deep Rock Galactic: http://karl.gg/
Darktide: https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor

ATTENTION RANDOMS. IF I'M STANDING STILL AND CLEARLY LOOKING AT THE POXHOUND AS IT GETS READY TO POUNCE ON ME, STOP SAVING ME.

I'M CLEARLY TRYING TO GET THE PENANCE YOU FUCKING IDIOTS.

>>529501528
Run off on your own in the middle of a special spawn. No one is going to come for you even accidentally.

>>529501528
>not getting it naturally
>not just doing hunting grounds where getting pounced is almost unavoidable

>>529501528
Just do a MoreSleep Trial game and wait for the dogs wave? why are people struggling with that?

Break the Line or Castigator's Stance

Break the Line seems better for general use, but at minimum it needs two point investment either Distance or CD reduction.
Castigator's Stance on the other hand only requires one point and seems insane as an "Oh fuck" button or a revive button or charging a gunner position.

WOAH

I'm not too familiar with Arbites in 40K as I tend to focus on Khorne units, are there just no different units they could have pulled cosmetics from for the non-cash store or are Fatshark just being lazy cunts again?

>>529501873
Fuck you.

So just to be clear, that’s a no on the Battle For Tertium Campaign, yes?

>>529501528
funny post

>>529501884
Literally nothing. Arbites don't have a ton of art, so they are pulling from the models first.

Why did they add numbers to capes of the Arbites Deluxe Edition cosmetics?

What determines my number compared to another player's number?

>>529501975
Yeah, if you have played through the game before; it's a tremendous waste of time. However, if you haven't? It's a good idea, and executed on a level campaign mode that's better than VT2's I'd argue.

>>529501884
There's not that much to pull from, compared to other factions.
There's mostly weapons they could add. Grenade launcher, revolver with scope, big stubber gun

>>529501492
Cuck :)

>>529502110
Your character background. You know the jumpsuit colors? Well, the Arbites have numbers on their armor that change depending on their background. I'm not bullshitting you.

>>529502110
Your number is determined by your precint choice during character creation.

>>529502110
>>529502234
>>529502317
that’s kinda cool honestly. fatshark does it again!

Aaaaaand the splitfag is back after 6 months, as predicted.

>>529501873
I have several of those on my Ogryn....

I wish I could get one on my fucking Arbitrator.

>>529501859
Depends on the situation and loadout, but I agree that Break the Line is just better in general.
Always take the range increase, likely both. Traversing distance, however short it may seem, is invaluable for running through lakes of fire, running away from enemies, or closing into otherwise bad positions.
Castigator's Stance only functions as an oh shit button for revives, and loses most of its defensive value against gunners and the like if you just learn to slide, or if you're dead out of any ways to regenerate toughness (which you shouldn't be, just invest heavier in the top), just block with your shield and/or flashbang if they're close enough. It obviously becomes better if you don't bring a shield. The cooldown is very long, which makes you more passive and reactive, while Break the Line just causes you to fucking pound enemies to the ground over and over, especially with the CDR in Execution Order.
Castigator's Stance's biggest strength is likely just boltgun sniping. They need to give one of the nodes interruption immunity so you can do hacking puzzles unmolested when you don't have smigger mines and your retards ignore you, and it needs to also remove the movement penalty while carrying barrels. As it stands, it is useless for objectives, and the main reason I avoid it.

real /coopg/ related thread. boltgun is not a fucking coop game you idiots
>>529502105
>>529502105
>>529502105
>>529502105
>>529502105

>>529502407
Who gives a shit, he's already 20 posts behind at it's 6 AM on a fucking Tuesday.

>>529502440
nope, this one was first.

>>529502440
>sperging over wrong game picture in OP
I'm not saying this lightly, you should kill yourself. Your contribution to society is a net negative, and nobody likes you, and we all know you will never learn any etiquette. The general is already made, I am not posting in yours.

>>529502440
kys, splitfag

>>529502234
Neat.

>>529502317
Is the bug that they ARE showing, or is that an old screenshot and the bug is that they weren't showing?

>>529502591
The bug is that they are showing on the cloaks They weren't before. They are supposed to show on the chest and shoulder, IIRC.

>>529502440
>you idiots
Just for that I'll keep posting here. Also kill yourself, splitfag.

>>529502440
>tranime

>>529502440
>tranny pic
No thanks.

>>529502440
Awww you're already samefaggign to keep your thread alive. 20 more minutes and you'll start asking lore questions like "uuuuh what is the Imperium guys? XD"

MY EYES

Imposing Force
>25% Toughness Damage Resistance for 5 Seconds after killing an elite or Specialist
Yes or no?

>>529502440
kek good riddance, splitfag

>>529502234
>Well, the Arbites have numbers on their armor that change depending on their background. I'm not bullshitting you.
I think that's a neat touch.
Though I would've liked it more if they had it effect the armor more besides just the number.

>>529502047
>>529502163
From looking at a 40K wiki (yeah yeah I know I'm sorry I don't know every warhammer fact off the top of my head) there's a decent amount of unique armors and helmets from Arbites that were released as a mini or from a book or edition they could pull from.

I'm going to go ahead and say Fatshark are just lazy and greedy fucks once again. Just gonna post the stuff I found so people can call them out if they claim there's not a lot of source material they could have used.

wich precinct is the ruel 34 one?

>>529502870
Fatshark forgot to add counter strike source into DT.

>>529503001
>default arbites armor but silver
Yeah, that'll be 2400 aquilas, pop.

Jewtubers are saying that the non-shield arbites shock maul (branx mk3) is better than the shield shock maul (branx mk6)

>>529502440
HAHAHA SPLITFAG GOT 404

>>529502440
See you in 6 months, splitfag

/spit

>>529503151
I agree.

>Retard wants maxed stuff for damnation
Fatshark can make it worse just watch

>>529502440
Now you have to post here, cuck :)

>>529503001
No one is attacking you for not knowing everything about Warhammer.

>>529503151
Jewtubers are theorycraft sissies whose practical concerns are warped by being in premade 4 man teams all the time. It's better with a coordinated team, but the shield block + flashbang have incredible utility without.

>>529503282
There's no fucking way. How?

>>529503151
Jewtubers say lot of shit, not all of it is useful.

>>529503151
It does a lot more damage and has a fantastic moveset. It's first charged attack is a head hit, which is pretty much easy guaranteed weakspot hit and it's insanely fast. You also follow up the Charge Head hit with an alternate attack to do a shock dot, which stuns anything outside of bosses.

So yes, it's probably the best Arbitrator Weapon. That being said - this doesn't make Shield less good. The Mk 6 Shield is insanely powerful in it's own right and is definitely meta.
But the Arbites Shock Maul is borderline overpowered.

>>529503334
utterly repulsive holy shit

>>529503150
Well it's an entirely different helmet, chest, greaves and boots. If it were from the cash store like everything else I'd bomb fat shit however.

>>529503405
because it kills everything very easily and requires little to no skill

>>529503151
I strongly agree.

>>529503334
>you need maxed-out guns for Damnation
lol, lmao

>>529503334
where is this? I need to call him a slur

>>529503151
It is powerful. Don't get me wrong, it's probably their most powerful weapon...

HOWEVER -- you should always understand that these Youtubers often play with teams of dedicated and similarly skilled players.
This means they generally don't have to take other concerns into account.
The Shield is better for playing without a good team. The Alt Attack is a guaranteed save for pretty much any team member. That alone makes it meta, but even without that it does insane damage.

>>529503389
You're right, sorry. Too much time on /tg/ made me a bit prickly when it came to discussing 40K I think.

>>529503591
It's the fatshark forums.

>>529502110
they didn't add it. it was always meant to be there it was just broken until now.

>>529503626

>>529503151
>Are you playing with a good team or a pre-made?
Then use the Arbites Shock Maul
>Are you playing with randoms?
Then use the Shield.

But honestly - both are amazing weapons. You'd do good with either one.

>>529503730
Also did they add a lot more cultist types in the new update? I'm seeing a lot of poxwalkers that just look like poor people or guys with a purple cloak rather than plague ridden zombies than I remember last time I played.

How good is the Malocator Talent below Execution Order in Arbitrator????

I'm wondering if I can drop the Cooldown reduction Talent on Break the Line.
I can't test it in the Meat Grinder because Execution Order isn't triggering in here.

>>529503932
These next ones are more for the dogs than the uniforms, mainly because I like the Dredd-like helmets.

>>529502440
What OP pic did he use? Was it at least cute?

>>529502870
thanks, doc

>>529504069
it was some AI slop

Vermintide update wtf

>>529504061

>>529503626
>too much time on /TG/
People still go on there? I thought everyone abandoned it because of an annoying janny or something

>>529504146
Hotfix 6.6.4 - 30th of June
Fixes
Fixed Necromancer’s flames being orange in the Victory screen.
Fixed an issue where poses wouldn’t work at the end screen after playing Weaves

WOOHOO BOYS WE'RE SO BACK

Middle and Right zealot paths need a buff.

>>529504181
I left when they banned quests, came back recently because the Warhammer autism reignited itself and was immediately appalled by how shit the threads there are.

>>529504292

>So much BLOOD!!! :o The oppressor really is good at killing.
Fem seer is kinda cute

>>529504417

That's about all the official Arbites art I found, everything else is just fanart or porn. If anyone has any more it'd be appreciated. If for no other reason than to inform people that there was stuff Fatshart could have done instead of just put 6 items in the cash store and call it a day.

>>529504870
ok rajeesh

>>529504870
This looks like he is furiously masturbating his juicy monster cock behind that book, looks kind of gay

Okay I'll try the shieldless arbites maul for real. Should I build it for carapace + unyielding + relentless strikes or just go flak/unarmored and high voltage + execution

>>529505061
If you're using your gun for boss damage, you don't need relentless strikes

>>529503932
Thats your imagination pretty sure, they’re all the same stuff

>>529503598
How to make it do insane damage? What's the moveset combo against different shit?

>>529505413
Mk VI, push attack follow through into light, into heavy, into light for horde clear. Light spam for single target. Sometimes light into heavy overheads makes for easy weakspot hits, but light spam into head (if you can reliably hit it) is usually stronger.

>>529504061
>>529504169
>>529504292
these just look silly we can do without them
>>529504870
>porn
post it

>>529504870
looks like he's jacking off behind that book, which honestly is kind of fitting.

>>529505041
>>529505649
Anons he's clearly pointing to the words as he reads.

Someone redpill me on the Primarchs. What the hell was their problem? Apparently one of them behaved extremely jewishly and that’s why the Imperium is in the mess that it’s in? Who and what are they and what happened to them? Which one is most likely to make an appearance in DT?

>>529505550
This is a blue board anon. Just look up "Arbites" on Twitter, you'll find it fairly quickly.

>>529505729
Maybe he's pointing but definitely not with his finger.

my insider sources tell me that the onehanded arbie shockmaul will get nerfed with plasma/DS in the next big patch

>>529505729
I recognize that bulge tho

Any one else have the issue with Darktide not shutting down when you hit quit? It closes and there's nothing in task manager but Steam says its still running and wont shut it down. I have to close out steam completely and restart it just to launch Darktide again.

>>529505981
Source: my beloved

Did they make auric harder again? Games felt a little harder today

Hello anons, I am new and want to make a sort of... tanky dog build.

Is this good? I have 1 free point which I was leaning to put into... Shield Plates, Force of Will or Engage. What do you guys think?

>>529505846
Every one of them was EXTREMELY autistic and desperate for validation while having a father that was even more autistic and simply wanted to play with his funny little soldier toys on a galactic scale.

Are Arbeetuses mad that they got shipped to fight alongside actual retard crackhead criminals?

>>529506182
Absolutely. However as these retards are shooting lexbreakers they tolerate them until Automa is freed.

>>529506182
That’s the implication yes. I think they might respect one or two of the personalities but overall they don’t like the rejects.

>>529505876
Segs

>>529506119
High Intensity modifier is integrated as a baseline for auric and later they'll add it back again on top of what we currently have.

>>529506435
That's a maulin'

>>529505876
THE LEGS IS THE LEGS

POXHOUND!

>>529506040
It takes a while to shut down while freezing the screen and blasting my CPU at max for 5-10 sec, the fans go super loud. I suspect it's shutting down the anti-cheat or smthing. Try to add the game to windows defender or other anti-virus exceptions.

>>529501528
I'll just assume that your an run of the mill retard and save you anyways.

SHE LOOKS LIKE SHE BEATS CULTIST MEN

>>529507358
TINY
HEAD

>>529506809
Someone shoot it!!!!!

>>529506178
I think Vulcan and Jaghatai khan where pretty well functioning and content with their roles

>>529507426
That's how you know it's weird fetish content. Tiny head is a fetish thing.

>>529507320
>horsegacha slopposter
Opinion discarded.

>>529507492
Anon the fetish is the big fucking tits.

>>529507510
>Shoots the hound
>You're welcome
>Tips Visor

>get back into the game recently, quit before Havoc was introduced
>try to start grinding my Havoc rank finally after getting comfortable again
>get declined multiple times every time I try to join a group, sometimes taking 10-15 minutes at a time just to get an invite
>mfw this is only in the 20s
I hate this mode for the group-making system alone. I'm not even playing Arby, I've been bringing my Zealot.

>>529507625
No, it's some weird bigness fetish. The small head gives it away. The common thread with every BEEG BEEG fetishism other than giantesses stepping on cities or some other autistic shit, is warped skeletal structure and small heads. When the hand is bigger than the head, the artist has an autistic fetish. Bad artists are bad at depicting tall people without shrinking the head, and from that perspective, I have to assume this bitch is supposed to be 7' tall or something.
The tits are nice but that's completely besides my point.

>>529507625
Imagine having a big tits fetish

>>529507625
>big tits fetish
you SICK FUCK

>>529507358
Those are a fucking weapon bro, goddamn

>>529506359
The funny part is they don't seem to like each other very much either.

>>529507778
>claims the artist has a weird fetish
>look inside
>basic musclegirls

>>529507726
>havoc clearance 21 trying to join my havoc 22? DECLINED.
The 20-30 range is the hardstuck shitter bracket. I'm actually willing to bet that they decline people from their own range because the only reason they even climbed to 26 or whatever, is because they once had a couple 30+ or even true survivors join and HARD CARRY their games, and now they're hoping to fish for more carries because they would never, ever make it themselves or with people on their skill level.
You're late for the party. Virtually all of the good players already have their 100 assisted games, true survivor, and havoc 40, and either enjoy havoc 40 a lot and exclusively play that, or only do their weekly for the crates penance, or worse yet, seasonal games to keep their rank from decaying. MOST players actively still playing in the 20-30 range are there for the simple reason that they fucking suck at the game.
>how do I make this not suck
Host your own games, install a mod that lets you inspect from party finder, scrutinize. But chances are you'll have no choice but to accept shitters because who the fuck wants to join and carry your havoc 23 or whatever where there's practically a guarantee of having at least 1-2 deadweight retards that I wouldn't even want in my aurics?

DID SOMEONE SAY YOU SCUMBAGS HAVE A BIG TITS FETISH?

>>529508226
Yes, anon, that's called making an observation.

>>529508226
Why is her head so fucking tiny?

If you don't have Concussive, how useful is Opportunist on Shield? (25% Damage Versus Staggered Enemy)

I'm pretty bottom heavy with talents and wondering if I should drop it for Consecutive Hits for a little more survivability.

>>529508451
>If you don't have Concussive
I don't understand the question

>>529508226
I wish women like this existed in reality. But Muscle on Women just doesn't work like that. I'm not talking some vaguely fit woman, I'm talking full on muscle yet still retaining fat (i.e. a fat ass and huge, HUGE tits). Which is actually impossible.

>>529508552
it's the talent that staggers on headshots

>>529508451
in my experience i'm able to stagger everything except for bosses without concussy. Some enemies can sometimes have stagger immunity, but not enough to be noticeable across a mission

>>529508552
I can still stagger things. Dog Staggers enemies on pounce, even Ogryn, Break the Line staggers everything, shield alt staggers everything, even hitting a heavy weakspot on an ogryn will stagger them for at least one attack.

>>529508451
It's rending, not staggered.
Lots of enemies should be staggering all the time, and those that aren't easy to stagger, you should be knocking on their asses with break the line.
It's useful because it's one of the only useful blessings for the shield. What the fuck else is it competing with, -30% block cost? That blessing isn't terrible, but you shouldn't be blocking often enough for it to matter. For other blessings, perfect block is a meme of a mechanic. What the fuck else is left?

Also I'd have to test it again to completely verify, but I'm pretty sure that just holding the shield for rending allows DoT effects to bypass enemy armor, similar to how uncanny strike works, meaning you can send in your dog, bleed everything, then swap over to your melee and they melt (because remote detonation staggers, and when that ends, you just knock em over with break the line).

>>529508606
One day we will have the technology and supplements.

>>529508754
>It's rending, not staggered.
Rending, not damage* whoops.

>>529508871
not so easy, is it?

>>529505846
They were seething they weren't the motherfucking Lion

I know Arbite wives are the hot new thing but I still love my wife Hadron...

>>529503334
>Damnation and auric
>endgame
Lol.

>>529508606
what, like jessica sestrem?

>>529507858
I look like that and do that

>>529505846
Emprah made himself 12 demigod ubermensch to act as his generals and governors but all of them came out mentally ill in different ways. Some productive, some destructive.
The more retarded ones turned to chaos and the ensuing civil war ruined the empire eventually turning it into the shithole it is now.
There is exactly 0 chance any of them will appear, but we might get some Guilliman in Spess Mareen 3.

>>529508226
Gross. Muscle shit is nasty
>>529508606
Correct. If she has substantial muscle then everything else suffers. That’s why it sucks and is gay.

>>529503334
>brings a blue laspistol with infernus on a level 15 assail psyker
>contributes more damage in the auric than this retard does with his fully maxed metaslave build

>>529509506
There were 20 primarchs.

>>529509615
You're right. Thanks. I was thinking about the 12 apostles for some reason.

>>529509615
21

>>529509372
nice tits dude

>>529508606
Reverse image search pic related, I can't remember her name. She was a power lifter. This image is about 10-12 years old, so you'd have to go back to when she was in the peak of her career; but she had the body-type you're discussing. She was a gainz mommy, and then would rapidly cut but never to the point of it affecting her cup size. Big tits, big ass, big core, big arms, big back.

I'm glad for the Arbites class. It means now we aren't restricted to fuckup prisoners with rocks. This gives me a little more hopium for eventually being able to play an FPS as a Skitarii

>>529509952
>Big tits, big ass, big core, big arms, big back
and no dick. What's the point.

>>529509253
She has very obvious implants, homie. Just like they all do. The closest to what he's talking is going to be power lifters, not body lifters. Some power lifters will still prioritize aesthetics to some extent though by cutting a lot from time to time.

>>529510081
Can they talk through voice-box or only communicate in binary using integrated vox-caster? I only ever saw them as a unit in mechanics vidya game, don't think they have voice clips there

How I feel while never reading my teammates huds when there's an ammo bag in front of me

HELLO AUTISTS AND RETARDS OF COOPG HOW GOOD IS THIS NEW PEAK GAME THAT WAS RELEASED????

>>529510867
kino

>>529510770
They can talk normally. There has only been one named Skitarii character in and Black Library book so far, and they talk a few times.

>>529505846
Custom made fat cocked super beings. Essentially, they’re a marvel of bioengineering so advanced that even Emps had to turn to Chaos/some unseen entities for help in their creation. They’re Warp entities made flesh more or less. Horus is the one who chimped out and led a rebellion, a sort of Horus Heresy(TM), if you will, after finding out he and everyone were (technically) lied to by the emperor and that was the catalyst for the current Imperium’s state.
Ultimately the rebellion failed but it still dealt wide spread damage that the Imperium and wider galaxy is still reeling from to this day. About half of them joined Horus, and the other half remained loyal to the Emperor. Of the ones who joined him, most of them are now the servants of Chaos as Daemon Princes, but Horus himself was obliterated from existence by the Emperor in their final showdown which was so absurdly massive in scale that there’s canonically no real record of how it happened because it looked different to everyone. The other half vanished one by one, with only one or two that are pretty much confirmed to be dead, but the rest are heavily implied or confirmed to still be alive achieving their various goals. Guilliman and Lionel are the two that have returned and more or less rule the Imperium in the stead of their father (more so Guilliman).

>>529510867
>streamerbait sloppa
nigger

>>529510770
One personality should speak only in binary.
The other Skits understand them perfectly but the other rejects just pretend sometimes.

>>529509952
that looks like a giant cyst
are you sure this wasn’t roids

>>529510081
oh look its that faggot with a disfugurement fetish shitting up the thread yet again trying to get others to push fatshark to add his fetish into the game
fuck off and die much you creepy little weirdo?

>>529511116
>are you sure people who lift competitively aren't on roids?

Anon, come on. They literally are ALL on gear, it's just what they prioritize. Body builders focus entirely on aesthetics, and low BF. Power lifters don't because they train for very different things.

>>529510770
They can talk normally. It's just like how tech priests are entirely capable of normal speech. They'd simply have a filter over their voice and speak in a technical manner like so;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vA6QEpsGnHE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvtsb3FVJz0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjAwQ8VqhOE

>>529510965
Lion El'Johnson has mostly been farting around in his own private magical forest since he woke up.
The other day I played a mission with a hot mic who sounded like 24 from the Venture Bros and was talking about how he's been getting into the 40k lore via YouTube videos.
This is the first proof I have seen that new people have been getting into 40k.
All I can say to the newbies is this is probably the worst time to get into the hobby as GW is in the process of sandinf off all the rough edges to make it more palatable to normies.
Darktide is probably the closest to the old tome of all the new stuff coming out.

>>529510965
Acshually, it was Lorgar who chimped the fuck out. Horus died, and Lorgar facilitated Horus's resurrection in the lodge so that he could be controlled by the Chaos Gods. Lorgar is the guy who fucked up everything. Then the dude who REALLY fucked up everything was Magnus by doing the one very specific thing he knew not to do.

>>529511486
>tone*

>>529505846
>>529510965
In addition to all of them being to a Space Marine what a Space Marine is to normal person, basically all of them had supercomputers for brains that make them super weapons of war, but also extremely accomplished men of science and intelligence, and also had passive abilities like a charisma field that mind fucked anyone who laid eyes on them, but they also each had their own unique abilities and traits. Horus for example was able to view cause and effect extremely clearly as a kind of metaphysical spider web, his analytical mind was able to identify weak points in enemy formations and deliver decapitation strikes like no one else could, which made him a really devastating commander, and the reason why he was chosen as Warmaster. Mortarion has an innate entropy field that actively slowed everything right down to the molecules in addition to being ridiculously durable even by the standards of his brothers. Jaghatai had a weird ability to turn off everyone else’s abilities, as well as enter into some kind of trance that enabled him to move fast as fuck. Corvus can outright manipulate people’s perception of him and remove every trace of his presence from their minds, making the ultimate ninja of the lot. Konrad is the lesser ninja and seethes about it, but is still absurdly stealthy to a crazy degree and has some kind of weird ability to melt into shadows, Vulkan is a perpetual and can resurrect himself from any form of injury and death, Guilliman has a mind for logistics and beauracey, an administrative demigod who ruled an empire of 500 worlds when his brothers were still dicking around with their training wheels, and the extremely rare quality of being a somewhat sane and reasonable individual in the 42nd millennium because he was raised by a loving mother and father, Perturabo had an especially mathematical mind and could learn everything near instantly, but specially know how every piece of tech works and improve upon it instantly.

>>529511148

>>529506170
Tried out your build on a random quickplay auric.
Then edited your build a bit for another quickplay auric.
I spawned in around 5 minutes into the game.
I think this is a bit more optimal. I would have ended it with only around 20 damage, but I started with half health and then right at the end I got hit with a no sound pox burster and combo'd

Seems pretty good. I'd have to try it out on Havoc and Maelstrom to get a proper idea of it. But I think it's pretty good. It's kinda fun having a pet that does good damage.

>>529511486
GW haven't changed anything, and I don't know why people keep insisting that they have. All they do is shriek about SoB models, black dudes, and one (1) FemStodes who isn't even a protagonist. The most honorable dude in any of their recent media was a blood thirsty Commissar (white guy, mind you) who decides to go die in a final stand. Is it the Asian Salamander that buckbroke so many people?

>>529510081
Skitarii are just cannon fodder, only Techpriests will match the level of prestige introduced by the Arbites.

>>529511819
Primaris Marines look like ass.

>>529511721
It's hilarious to me that the reason Guilliman can be considered a saviour in the current 40k universe is because he understands basic economics and paperwork and thinks maybe sacrificing 100,000,000 toddlers in factories for every gun they produce might be a bit inefficient.

>>529505846
>>529511721
Sanguinius could fly at hypersonic speeds and had precognition on steroids and also a kind of vampire curse, Leman was extremely resistant to Warp shenanigans, Magnus was a Psyker of near unprecedented scale and is one of the most powerful characters in the setting now, and so on.
Naturally, they also have the best and most efficient technology the Imperium has available, each with their own unique properties and abilities themselves.
To add onto all of this though, it’s important to note that for the vast majority of their lives, they were actively nerfing themselves due to the Emperor’s philosophy of rationality and trying his best to keep them (and everyone else) from falling to or empowering Chaos by steering them clear of any kind of ‘superstitious’ thought, so even with as powerful as they were, they could have actually been waaaaaay more powerful still, as we’re now seeing with Punished Corvus who beat up his daemon brother as a giant crow warp entity, presumably his true form that was being held back by his mortal shell.

Guilliman is obviously most likely to show up, but that’s not going to happen because the guy is fighting for his life trying to stop his dads empire from collapsing so yeah no BPC will be arriving to slap up Wolfer and the low tier cult that is Admonition sadly.
>>529511486
True enough, that’s why I said mostly Guilliman since he hasn’t really done much.
>>529511554
Also true, but then, if you want to be really technical, you also have to look at Erebus, who is… well, Erebus

>>529511554
Why did Magnus do the thing anyway? Was he stupid?

>>529511939
That has nothing to do with them making the setting more "palatable" to normies. Even the normies like the hot Sisters of Battle, the hot female IG. It's why they keep showing women as being good looking in the expensive media. The models not being hot is a case of one head not talking to the other, and also GW having some truly shitty modelers. Like, holy fuck. Not coincidentally, they're all the greybeards who have been around since 4th Ed and have fallen off hard that GW refuses to fire. A good example of what I mean is the Horus Heresy vs 40k sculpts of the exact same model. Fulgrim is a disaster, for instance.

>>529510867
it's genuinely fun despite being friendslop.

>>529511721
why is bobby so sad here :(

>>529512212
Unironically, yes.

>>529512434
Bobby has been basically suicidal ever since he woke up, lmao. Brother wants to kill himself so bad, but knows he can't since everyone else is fucking retarded.

>>529510965
>a sort of Horus Heresy(TM), if you will
Kek’d.

>>529512434
He took one look at the Adeptus Administratum's filing system and was struck with the urge to kill everyone and then himself.

>>529512212
Magnus was ambitious, arrogant and thought he knew better, so the chance to warn the Emperor about Horus through sorcery was going to be be a "see, I told you you so" moment, except he got played like a fiddle by Tzeentch

>>529510965
Is Lionel even aware that Bobby is alive and vice-versa? I know that they haven't even reunited yet, and it's been like 3 years IRL at this point.

>>529511818
Oh and you can probably get rid of the 50% damage on charge. I'm still not convinced that's worth it. I'd probably get the charge distance or block gives toughness.

>>529512434
his nigger brothers are off dicking around doing god knows what while the culmination of his creators life work crashes and burns despite his best efforts. i would probably be pretty bummed too.

Why are all the mods complete unfun shit?
>lights out
can't see
>fog
can't see
>inferno
can't see
>pox gas
can't see, can't go anywhere

>>529511819
>>529512313
I didn't say a fucking thing about femstodes or woke.

Primarchs are marvel

>>529512896
lights out is kino because I can finally make use of the flashlight
the rest can eat a dick

>>529512896
fog and gas is cancer, please remove from game
inferno and lights out is cool

>>529512993
This just reminds me that I hate the dim head-flashlight the game saddles you with by default, I'd rather have a real light or none at all.

>>529512057
>Punished Corvus
I think this, the shit with Lionel, and more actual "miracles" starting to happen (looking at you Celestine and the Sanguinor) is GW pushing toward "Okay... Chaos bad BUT the Emperor figured out how to control the Empyrean in such a way that certain people can use it without eventually falling apart/turning to corruption/going insane/etc!" Because this new shit going on is like the Force, essentially but all linked back to one guy. Which makes sense since the fight between Emps and Horus has been changed to include that whole "Dark King" bit and more emphasis has been placed on the epithet of "Anathema" for him by the Chaos Gods.

Why are all the mods complete fun shit?
>lights out
can't see
>fog
the fog
>inferno
FLAME
>pox gas
the heretics hotboxed the hive

>>529513151
>>529512896
>lights out
the purest form of kino in this game
>fog
gay because there are no enemies, it's not actually that hard to see
>inferno
same as fog
>pox gas
stop being a pussy and just run through the gas, it only removes your toughness and gives you a bit of corruption, and the map is ABSOLUTELY LOADED with healing stimms to the point of making the game easier if you can stop being a fucking pussy

stop admitting to skissues and git gud

>>529514037
>he thinks we have difficulties with pox gas
lmaoing @ ur assumptions.
It just looks fucking ugly. It's not nice. It's not cool. It's lame.

>>529514170
I always get excited when I get to play fart gas because it means it now doesn't matter when my lobotomized "teammates" shoot 5 poxbursters in my face when I can just use drugs.

What's the point of the Mk VI Shield compared to the Mk XI Shield?

The Mk XI has less damage, so what's the point?

>default helmet
>default greaves
>the coat
Yep, it's Lex time.

>fem-arbitrator with piggy skin starts crying in campaign aurics about damage rates, using mod commands to post stats in chat in victory screen
I bet they watch Tanner.

Based Aqshy constantly shitting on Darktide.

>>529515293
That was tanner.

>>529512712
Lion knows that Robooty is running the show, but they haven't caught up with each other yet

>>529512896
>can't see
You can. Also, equip gun with torch.
>can't see
You absolutely can.
>can't see
Yes, you can.
>can't see, can't go anywhere
You can, and you can. Use relevant builds, also the game literally spams the map full of cleansing stims.

>>529515458
>being constantly stunlocked
???
I don't think I've ever experienced that. Or at least not that I can remember...?

>>529515091
Anyone?
I'm trying it out in the Meat Grinder and the Mk VI definitely seems to kill shit quicker...

>>529515458
I mean she's basically blind in one eye and deaf.

>>529502132
Nah it's still worse than VT2. In VT2 the levels themselves have an obvious progression and the locations are in order and there's a line of events and you end up killing a boss esch chapter, the the final mission
darktide even now just has voicelines after each mission which are still incoherent. The only exception is the 2 karnak missions

>>529516074
idk i think it's just preference

>>529515091
>>529516074

>>529502234
People act like this is a hidden easter egg but you can straight up see in character creation that it changes your decal and it tells you that it does

>>529516290
I know the movesets are obviously different, but it just seems weaker.

>>529516285
I guess...?

I realized why Swagger annoys me and why the story is fucking dogshit
It's because Dan Abnett is writing it

What's the appeal of becoming pic related? I just don't get it

>ACK-she

>>529515458
I'm convinced people who cant see shit on this modifier are playing with sun glare on fucked up gamma or something

>>529515870
I assume they're bitching about how standing in fire means you can't sprint, meaning you can't sprint or forward slide out of it. The solution is obviously to dodge and slide to the side, but have you SEEN how many people complain about being revived in fire? Nobody does that shit.

>>529516451
you wouldn't get it corpse wor-
*hack*
*cough*
*wheeze*

>>529516451
eternal life and you no longer feel pain and your own feces taste really good

>>529516537
I have a slightly increased contrast set on the monitor and still can't see shit. Seems to be no in-game brightness option, so it's pretty much pitch black for me. Figured devs just want us to suffer. Mb I need to try "FPS gamer" mode for the screen or smthng

>>529516578
One thing I hate about flamers is that the knockback on them is retarded, even if you're playing ogryn. It makes no sense.
Just let me walk/sprint through the fire so I can cave the fucker's skull in. Yes, I will take health damage but I am fine that as a trade off.

Is Outlast Trials fun solo?

What about with Randos?

>>529517326
Idk maybe it interacts with graphics settings then. I'm on max settings minus raytracing and it's visually super clean, its all lit up by the fire

>>529516451
It begins with a slippery slope, they were in the shittiest warzone imaginable and literally anything seemed better, but traitor guard aren't called the lost and the damned for nothing.

>>529516451
To its followers, Nurgle is the God of overcoming despair, and there's plenty of despair to go around in the Imperium. When you are drowning in rotting feces and burning industrial waste, you might get eventually tired of the asshole in the boat screaming "Swim harder, you worthless scum!" and when a magical being comes along saying "you know, you could stop struggling and become part of the sea of shit instead. We are all family here, and together we can form a magnificient wave to drown out those wankers on the boat too!", you might be tempted too.

If I have Voltaic Mandibles, is there a gun better than the Bleed Bolt Pistol?

>>529519250
Remote detonation is what causes the bleed, not mandibles.
Bolter can also have puncture, but it's less practical.

>>529507476
This. Although I wouldn't say the Khan was content so much as he realized he had no recourse to do anything else, and he was ultimately planning to just fuck off forever once the crusade was done

>>529519460
Okay, but is there a better gun? Bolter is too slow.

>>529519603
To be fair, a lot of space marines and primarchs were pondering what kind of things they'd do once the crusade was over, they genuinely beleived the space marines wouldn't be needed forever and would oneday need to find peacetime occupations.

>>529509512
HOMOSSEXUAL SPOTTED.

MANDATED EDICT: RAPE

>>529519626
For a dog build using remote detonation? There's nothing better.
Bolt pistol rapes bosses, has a quick swap to snipe specials, and has surprisingly solid DPS against most other things as well. Most other options only do these things partially.
Accatran pump shotgun is a good alternative for boss raping and killing specials, but it has worse range against snipers and doesn't deal with armor as well. Arby's shotguns are just inferior bolt pistols that don't bleed and waste ammo if you horde clear.
Mind that the discrepancy is relatively small, good ranged weapons are still good ranged weapons, and you don't have to be autistic about using the most optimal thing if you don't use remote det. Impact nades are good and don't need puncture.

>>529508768
the blushing visor always gets me

>>529502440
I think the Sassy Nurgling is CUTE!

>>529519809
From what I gathered in the Warhawk of Chogoris novel he just realized the Emperor was literally him but on a bigger scale, and his choices were to integrate or die, but he still longed for the "chill" life he led in Chogoris where he'd just conquer shit one week then spend the next hunting and eating cheese with his pals.

His real primarch super power was being a normal person with common sense.

>when you dodge a mutie and it gives up and picks another target

>>529503334
First two sentences and I can already tell this is a TF2 Soldier main (or Medic Main) wearing a Team Captain that screams at their pocket and the team for not helping, specifically, himself win.

>I'm still seeing players in higher difficulties who shouldn't be there.
>who shouldn't be there.

That's all you need to hear to know how smug and up his own ass the guy is.

>have Unleashed Brutality
>dog just sorta sits around doing nothing half the time and I have to spam tags
????????????????????

Mating Presses for Sefoni.

>>529520909
Anon you greentexted the one thing the guy actually got right. There are a lot of retards that are in difficulties they don't belong in. If you take a knee on every horde and end the mission on 5 deaths, you need to go back.

>>529520909
He is up his own ass, but he is right too.

>>529520973
seems like potential targets gotta be super close for it to work, a couple of steps from melee range basically

>>529520973
I just ignore the dog keystones.
If you want more dog damage take razorjaws, voltaic mandibles and execution order.
And if you're running BTL, take the 50% dog damage for 12 seconds.
Both unleashed brutality and go get 'em are pointless and you're better off just pinging whichever enemy you want to kill.

>>529519862
imagine choking her out and making her your bitch

>>529521117
I keep seeing people with +300 levels who don't seem to know what a daemonhost is and other basic mechanics, this can't just be rust.

How is sloptide now? Is 13 money units too much for sw*deslop?

>>529521476
Just about right I'd say.

>>529521476
It's very, very easy for new players.
Challenging at the very top.

>>529520973
The dog has a really short default aggro range, which is good because that means it usually stays within Man and Cyber-Mastiff range, so it's just a walking toughness dispenser. If you actually went and bothered to get stuck in melee, your dog is going to start attacking, but if you hang back like a pussy, it's only going to come help defend you against anything that gets close.
Unleashed brutality doesn't really do much, because by the time a trapper is readying her net on you, it's already too late for the dog to interrupt. Either drop the point, or take the Go Get 'Em! pill, because that effectively lets the dog off the leash to go maul whatever it wants. Just don't take the toughness dispenser node, it won't be close to you.

>>529521421
>and making her your bitch
Thanks, anon.

>>529521348
I have all of those, but I was kinda hoping that by stacking up so much damage and then getting one of the Dog Keystones, it'd go absolutely insane and just murder everything, pouncing from target to target, but it doesn't...

This seems fucking worthless and honestly, I'm pretty annoyed by it. Without the dog being aggressive with so many points put into Dog Damage, it feels like I'm wasting all these points.

>>529521173
>>529521117
His solution is to add further breaks on good players who just want to get past the boring stage. I had to suffer through 4 difficulties of running simulator before I could actually play the game on Arbites. And this nigga wants even more padding? More gating? Fuck off. My friends already quit the game due to excessive gating. They got bored in malice and quit because they had to go through two extra gates to get to the actual good part of the game.

I'd rather suffer the occasional retard than having to personally suffer through even more difficulty padding every time I want to level a new character. This B guy can choke on a cock.

>>529521476
It's a steal at that price.

>>529521663
The dog is good. It deals pretty massive amounts of damage to monstrosities between shock and bleed, and even its base damage is relevant. Reminder that scoreboard mods lie, the dog deals roughly twice as much damage (if not more) than attributed in the scoreboard. You can test this yourself in the psykhanium, even Power DI thinks it's your melee damage.
My dog averages in the 60-100k damage range depending on the mission, which doubles to roughly 120-200k, or just slightly less than a complete shitter would contribute. Except those shitters constantly have epic battles with poxwalkers, while my dog kills actually important targets.
You should be using execution order. If your dog feels weak, it's because you aren't using execution order, and are forgetting to tag.

>>529521476
Easy to start, fast leveling and gear grind too. For 15$ it's very good. Just don't expect fatshark to fix and add shit quickly. rn it is how game should have shipped like, took them 2 years to get here.

>>529522072
I hate the new mission board shit too. It was a mistake entirely, the old one was genuinely better and this new one is entirely pointless.
But I don't want shitters in my game.

Gating auric off from people who are retards is a good thing. Literally just add in code that prevents shitters from entering public auric if their weapons aren't level 500 and don't have two tier 4 blessings on them.
Both of these are easy to do.

>>529522484
This is a cancerous idea and I just explained why.
You don't want shittesr in your game? Then play with premade groups. No amount of gating will prevent random shitters from appearing. There are True Survivor H40 players who still can't play the game without having dedicated smiggers on the team.

>>529521476
I already have it on Xbox and I'd buy it on Steam if only Fatshart knew what a FUCKING SAVE TRANSFER was.

>>529522902
I don't want any shitters in pubs.
The gating is good because it gatekeeps all the retards and I don't have to interact with them.
If your friends left the game and stopped playing then they are all shitters and they don't belong in aurics.

>>529522951
Fair, I can't imagine leveling uo FIVE characters again.

>>529523161
It actually feels rather fast in Darktide, doing it in vermintide was way worse.

>>529523071
>because it gatekeeps all the retards
Except it doesn't. Retards will just bruteforce any amount of missions. You'd have to implement Havoc style demoting in pub queue and that's a good way to kill your game.

>finish the revamped "campaign"
>the last Rannick cutscene leaves screen black
>game's running perfectly on background
>pause menus and merchants work fine
>going back just returns the black overlay
Svenskt programmatik kvaliteet.

>>529523343
When I say leveling up I mean gearing up as well. If someone would delete my characters and inventory I would just drop the game.

>poxburster ignores me and decides to go for a teammate behind me
>ping the dog to attack it
>it launches the box burster towards them
Tehehehehuheuehue

>>529523369
>Except it doesn't.
It does, I've been playing and I've seen way less shitters.
Reason being that shitters are bad at the game and can't clear heresy on the regular.

>>529523536
Oh yeah gearing your shit is a nightmare, godrolling blows like 100k easily per weapon
I didn't bother to godroll my vets weapons and I'm kinda regretting it now, gives me something to do I suppose.

>>529523343
It feels super fast in Darktide if you bother to spec your curios with xp boost.

>>529523589
Cool, and I have anectodat evidence that contradicts your anecdotal evidence.
And I've carried a bunch of shitters through heresy while I was grinding my 'beetus, you're welcome.

>>529523679
maybe I should make docket farming curios, feels wierd to be giving up my usual combat ability cd, toughness, stamina regen combo though.

>>529503334
>Ummm...*smacks lips* WHY am *I* still seeing shitters in MY games?! You shouldn't be here dipshit! If you aren't max level, *scoffs* if your weapons aren't fully upgraded (like MINE are, loser), you should NEVER be allowed to join damnation or aurics. It's as shrimple as dat! All you're doing is making my autism neurons spark in agitated frustration and giving me irl melties because (YOU) are not as good as (ME).

>IT (CLAP) DOES (CLAP) NOT (CLAP) MATTER HOW MUCH ACTUAL GAMER SKILL YOU HAVE! YOU WILL NEVER BE ME!! Because players who try to

>FOIST!

>their disgusting selves on MY lobbies playing basic content do *NOT* make up for their trying to have a fun time. and beyond that, it's insulting, IN-SUL-TING, to me (and only me). The person who gives so much of a shit about meta slaving and builds that I have the game running most of the day making builds instead of having fun!

>To have a filthy (((FREELOADER))) using non-meta weapons with non-mandated perks/blessings looking for me, THEIR GOD EMPEROR, to carry them? Pfah! Start a private lobby nigger!

>PLEAAAAAASE FART SHARK, I'm having melty! STOP them NOW! NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW! GATE KEEP THEM FROM PLAYING THE VIDEO GAME SO ONLY I CAN BE THE BESTEST GAMER IN ALL DARKTIDE AND NOT THEM! Show them an error message that doxes them IRL and gives me free tendies!

>, WIth love, B.

>>529523728
I don't care. The idea of gating these tards from aurics by gear is a good idea.

Should skaven having glowing eyes be considered a canon trait or just artistic license?

The only gatekeep there shoulf be is for aurics. Should be twice the damnation matches to get that a-word pass.

I FUCKING HATE THESE FAGGOT MUTANTS
Every time I play ogryn, my truck-sized hitbox and matching acceleration causes these niggers to magnetically latch and stunlock me for several seconds if there's more than 3 of them.
What fucking gun can I bring that rapes 3+ mutants fast enough to be rid of them? No, the kickback doesn't fucking work with its 2 business day long reload time.

>>529524098
Well I don't care about your retarded idea then, easy.

>>529524098
I will take my randomly built anti-meta tacaxe and lasgun challenge build to your aurics and your bitching will be ignored.

>>529524163

>>529524140
Anon, they snort warpstone.
glowing eyes are the *least* of what they might end up with.

>>529524342
Now I want a cyber-mastiff wit a gun.

>>529524463
kek
I don't wanna give up my grenades, but fuck me, I guess I might have to. Mutants and trappers are the only fucking threats, and trappers aren't that hard to dodge.

>>529524579
>and trappers aren't that hard to dodge.
neither are muties

Lot of hardstuck malice players here, huh?

>>529524654
They are when there's half a dozen of them. Dodge one, the second one grabs you, then flings you into the third.

>>529524342
>I will take my randomly built anti-meta tacaxe and lasgun challenge build
As long as your gear is max level and you're level 30 it is fine.

>>529501884
>>529502047
>>529503001
>>529502163
They're saving all the nice stuff for the slopshop to be released for 2900 aquilas/costume

fresh brownoid seethe saar!

>>529525249
I feel most of his complaints are more the player being shit than the class.
the unfortunate reality os a new thing coming out is all the people who haven't played in a year have come back to shit things up.

>>529506809
>*CLACK* *CLACK* *CLACK* *CLACK*

>>529525340
It's a hysterical knee jerk to a single match where he was clowned on by some retards. In my games with other arbites bros we're just deathballing through the entire map. I'll give him "rushing ahead but that's because arbys are innately faster and the blessings on their shotties force them to close in.

I wish bosses were strong

>>529502870
I would genuinely pay money to use this

>>529498852
While some classes fold to overheads (zealots and arbites don't), psyker gets deleted out of existence entirely, at least in havoc. You don't get downed, you go straight to hell from full hp.

>>529510770
>>529511439
It's both. The Binary they prefer when talking to each other because they're cyborg nerds. But when they have to talk to others they use the Gothic speak.

>>529525249
Arbites is too overpowered honestly.
And big part of that is the mastiff basically making you immune to 2 of the big threats, mutants and dogs. 1 of which can be a run ending disabler.
The reason why disablers exist in these games is to force teams to work together so they aren't running off to the other side of the map.

>>529506170
Why are you using true grit

>>529525678
No you don't
Well maybe you do, but the game would be unplayable with pubs if that were the case
Imagine a havoc 35+ twins dropped into a normal pub match, it would be a guaranteed wipe for 99% of lobbies

>>529526054
Good to see disabler tard still coping. I will chortle in your honor when fatshart adds ant-disabler stuff to ogryn.

>>529512434
He really want's that Space Elf Pussy. Also his dad's life support is failing and when that goes, the Astronomican goes too.

Then it's End Times in space baby!

>>529526310
>I will chortle in your honor when fatshart adds ant-disabler stuff to ogryn.
They already reworked ogryn, they didn't add any more anti-disabler (he can already be made immune to dogs) stuff into it. If they were gonna tweak the class they would've added it then.

>>529512434
Hey that's my space cop's name

>>529525249
I actually think arbites are the most fun to play along side of, right after fotf zealots.
Psykers deletes hordes, making them insignificant.
Chorus and Shout vets gives the team godmode, making the game too easy.
Ogryns are walking death machines that can carry the entire game.
Arbites just exist.

>>529516451
Because the life of an average human in 40k, unless you're very powerful, is a thankless and shit life where you'll do your one role, maybe get taken from your home never to return, and die at the hands of horrible daemons that want to either murder you, make you one of them, mind rape you, or just outright rape you.

So some people get the idea of saying "fuck it, I'll freedom in Chaos", and then get surprised when they realize it's WORSE on Chaos side, and you're now fully stuck since there's no going back if you go Chaos.

>>529526387
Nah, if the Astronomican goes so does the empire. There will be no end times. Every single world will suddenly be isolated in the darkness.

>>529526501
That was before the arbites, and since they have the anti-disabler measures baked in it would only make sense to give ogryn the similar treatment :)

>>529526310
The Arbites has set a precedent for getting free from disablers by yourself. They might give Ogryn a way to get free from hounds.

>>529494935
but that's precisely why i keep siccing him on trappers

>>529516482
would

>>529526679
It would make sense, but they won't add any because ogryn already got reworked.
At best you'll get any of them in like 2029.

>>529526695
They should.

>>529526695
>They might give Ogryn a way to get free from hounds.
Not saying that it's good or practical, but pained outburst from the middle keystone does that.

>>529526695
They shouldn't.

Pe-rish YEeee~

>>529524140
they're all gay aren't they?
Please say yes

>>529526695
Sure let's make the most OP class even more OP.

>>529524163
>Waaaah I can't dodge!

I can doge em and gun 'em down find on Ogryn.

>>529527263
Arbites is the most OP class.

>>529524463
the rock is extra funny these days due to the current gore bug

>>529524140
Glowing eyes are cool.

>>529527038
My favorite FotF line is
>I SHALL REDEEM THEE

>>529527640
saaaaaar... do NORT reDEEM!!

>>529527693
SAH! DO NOT REDEEM SAH!

>>529527601
More Skaven women pls

>>529527776
Didn't mean to deepfry it whoops.

>>529527943
You did it again, though?

>>529503334
>I'll Gatekeep the Aurics!
>That'll keep any shitters ou-ACK

still this was pretty fun, was laughing the whole way through

>>529525249
despite his blabbering being borderline incomprehensible he's right
malice shitters combined with overpowered class who's also got zealot speed are a menace in aurics (which is the new default difficulty after the board change).
Swedes should've kept aurics on a separate board.

>>529527434
how dare you disagree with my correct statement.
have you no shame?

>>529528139
>completely unreadable default scoreboard tracking useless meme stats

>>529528139
Console ogryn player scoring ass.

>>529528161
>Swedes should've kept aurics on a separate board.
That I agree on, previous mission board was better.

>>529528161
>he's right
about what? Do you want even more gating? Shitters are shitters because they don't learn. They'll still plow through the padding and end up in auric anyway.

>>529528125
Yea...

>>529528139
>ogryn
>only 122k damage
I though ogryns were supposed to be overpowered?

is havoc not played on fatshark servers?

>>529528523
>Do you want even more gating?
Yes. Anything to keep the shitters out of aurics.
Most shitters are so stupid that they don't even know what fucking Hadron is, so they'll never figure out how to upgrade their shit to the max anyway, meaning they are forever banned from aurics that way.

Is darktide poorly optimized. My PC is kind of poopoo but it runs othe things fine

>>529528595
a woman can drive a bugatti chiron and still crash it into a pole before reaching third gear. The car is fast, the driver is slow.

>>529528523
He's right about malice shitters behaving like malice shitters when given op class in aurics
they outrun spawns and make walls of hordes which veterans and psykers have to break through solo without coherency, which isn't exactly trivial

How does havok difficultly scale? Is each one harder than the last or does it go up in 10s? In other words is a 34 harder than a 33 and so on?

>>529528750
1) it's punishing non-shitters
2) it's not gonna work anyway, since all you do is delay the inevitable

>>529527038
THY DOOM COOOOMES

>>529528550
My fellow scarred skaven women enjoyer. Post more.

https://imgur.com/a/npiQ84S

>>529528767
How many worker threads did you set it to?

>>529528920
Basically in 10s. That's where the significant changes occur.

>>529528139
>almost as much pointless damage as real damage on red zealot
Green zealot is a better player.

>>529524773
They cant grab you as long as you are in an active slide
Yes even the tail end of one, stop trying to solely dodge them, you can even sprint slide towards them and not expend any of your effective dodges. That's like 5 full seconds of not being grabbed

what's the highest difficulty i can play before i start running into meanies that bully me for being bad (i am a low skill comfygamer)

>>529529271
you run into them on the easiest difficulty
they rush the missions to level faster

>>529528830
Yeah, like I said in the last thread about retards (who are by my experience all playing arbites) whining about not having ammo but then running past all ammo pick ups and ammo crates is because they are malicetards who never pay attention to their surroundings.
Only reason why they are appearing in Aurics now is because the arbites class is so overpowered that it compensates for their lack of skill. And the class also invalidates like 2 of the main threats for shitters.
Mutants and dogs.

Hell, after having played arbites myself I've had to relearn when I went to back to my ogryn.
He feels extremely clunky now after having played for a week with arbites. And the reason for that is my brain got used to how OP arbites is.

>>529529271
please join my aurics I love carrying overwhelmed noobies

>>529529271
Maybe Auric/Damnation. You'll still find the occasional asshole in quickplay. You know 'em when you see 'em. Bad or non-existant teamplay, passive aggressive chat, wanders off to scour for books instead of sticking with the group AND being huffy if you aren't helping.

Had a Psyker that just ran off backwards to search the train tracks for scriptures, so I had to chase after him to make sure he wouldn't get killed or whatever, and it cost us two other players for it during a horde. Jackass.

>>529529036
>1) it's punishing non-shitters
It won't. Upgrade your gear to max level, retard.
If you want to run challenge runs do it in a private game.
>2) it's not gonna work anyway, since all you do is delay the inevitable
Delaying them forces them to actually get good over time. More time they spend playing, better they get.

>>529528830
Retards gonna retard. Gating is not gonna solve that. The gates will get brute-forced / outplayed / cheesed. There will be youtube tutorials saying "how to quickly get past the darktide auric gates" and all the retards will watch it, then join your aurics and proceed to eat shit.

>>529529271
Anything below aurics is toxic because that's where all the whiny shitters are.
Havoc 20-30 is the ultra hardstuck shitters so they're toxic too. You only start running into alright lads at 35+

>>529528920
there are brackets and you can see them in party finder filters
first 10 ranks is malice, then 11-15 is heresy, and every consequential 5 levels bracket is damnation with increasingly hard (and numerous) modifiers
idk if there's supposed to be any difference between the ranks within the same bracket, but the difference between 20 and 21 is much more noticeable than difference between 21 and 25

>>529529271
Havoc. The game mode with its own difficulty and locked behind party finder.
Everywhere else, literally no one fucking cares, even in auric missions if things get a little dicey, then they are infinitely more likely to disconnect than EVER type anything in chat. Players in this game are ADHD speds who cannot handle things going bad, but instead of lashing out like in other games, they would rather just alt f4 or use the mod to auto disconnect them so they can find another lobby.
But because of the weird ass decision to lock difficulties to new character levels, and made the progression excruciatingly slow, it's currently the low level difficulties that are more toxic because it's full of old players trying to speedrun leveling their arbiter, and don't want to waste any time on the grind.

>>529528550
she looks like she seeks out the company of human adventurers

>>529529668
Wait a second. nta but, are you the guy that made the forum post?

>>529529668
>Upgrade your gear to max level, retard.
I did. Still took me 2 days of boredom to get to auric. That's punishment.
Carrying a retard once in a while is easy. It's a skill issue on your part.

>>529529795
>or use the mod to auto disconnect them
This is so insanely pathetic to even imagine, there's no way this is real

Beastmen class when

>>529530115
How would you make them different from ogryns?

>>529529271
Some people will bully you even on Malice because they're retards. So you can't really escape it. Luckily most people are chill until you reach havoc.

>>529529453
Even on arbites when I change build and use anything besides castigator's stance I have to relearn to not play like a retard
And most people don't even know how op it is and use break the line

>>529529795
>>529530070
>Auto Disconnect

What? Like if it senses you're pinned, downed, or dead people just have a mode that forces them out of the lobby and back to the Hub?

Post a link to this mod, I refuse to believe someone is

*THAT*

Fucking lazy they can't just pause and click leave game.

>>529529271
I don't give a fuck how low skill you are, as long as you are actually paying attention. Don't shoot bursters in my face. Stop spamming I NEED AMMO and then running past dozens of pinged ammo pickups. Respond to pings. Use your ability. Deploy the fucking ammo crate instead of saving it for the next mission. I don't give a fuck if you go down 4 times and die twice, the average retard fucks up all of the above no matter what they do. I see so many stimms picked up and never, ever, ever used. Everyone ignores cooldown stimms when they're the most powerful on half the fucking classes.

>>529530070
I think the Reconnect mod also has an option for full disconnect that you can bind to a hotkey. Similar to the webm, once you get into auric games, seeing players smash the disconnect hotkey on the same SECOND they go down to something dumb like eating a crusher overhead, they will disconnect and not come back. Even if the game is completely salvageable or not even all that bad.
There have been runs where in a single mission, there were 10 different players all cycled through like a revolving door. Only me and one other dude from the start stayed while the other two slots were people that joined in, went down, and disconnected.

>>529530343
I know there's a mod for a chat command or keybind to instantly disconnect but I haven't heard about an auto one.

>>529530037
>I did. Still took me 2 days of boredom to get to auric. That's punishment.
Good. You fucking deserve it.

>>529530208
They rape the heretics! and shit on their altars.

>>529529271
Heresy maelstrom probably
I bet meanies don't even know how to find it

>>529530343
it's been a thing for the longest time, it might not even be public. It's how you'll see speedrunning zealtrannies get knotted and instantly dc so fast. I'm not sure if it just brings them back to the hub or if it forces a DC that allows them to reconnect, though.

i wish people that regularly disconnect after being killed, downed, or hit by a disabler were permanently flagged and labelled as deserters in-game. there's no inherent punishment, other than that you are increasingly disgusting to behold

>>529529271
If you have basic human decency you are welcome in my aurics.

>>529530442
>There have been runs where in a single mission, there were 10 different players all cycled through like a revolving door.
I mean yeah that's basically the average maelstrom that rolled fart or melee only no ammo modifiers, but most of those are just organic ragequits. Retard goes down, either giga copes or hopefully realizes he's out of his depth, and leaves a couple seconds after getting downed. Other retard dies, gets bored, and leaves even if everything is going really well. Retard gets disabled, a boss spawns, and because he's been conditioned by other retards that nobody ever brings boss damage and the big health bar and scary music mean a guaranteed wipe if there's only 2 players, he sees the game as unsalvageable and also leaves.

>>529530590
they actually did add a check so that the person respawns in at one of the holding/revive points instead of with the team

Anons, give it to me straight or bisexual. Which one

>>529530442
your lucky to get replacements, I keep getting games where your stuck with bots after they bail.
the matchmaking seems to have issues at times.

>>529530913
Bisex, it's easier than doing mental gymnastics.

>>529530474
No I don't. Fuck you. And I can't believe you're okay with it either.
Gating doesn't work unless it's skill based.
Retards don't learn. That's what makes them retards. Forcing everyone to grind for X amount of hours doesn't help. Because the retards can play for 500 hours and still be retarded. Retards can have 500 rated gear and still suck ass.

For gatekeeping to work it has to be skill based. If not, it's just delaying the inevitable while also being fucking annoying.

>>529530913
You pick shredder and then the right side of the keystone.

>>529530913
Scourge is better.

>>529530962
Glad I'm not the only one getting stuck with bots after someone rages too

>>529527601
>>529527943
>>529528550

>>529530913
Obviously neither. Since you're making a meme build (as evident by FOTF) you're supposed to take martyrdom

>>529525249
>racing ahead
My knife ogryn is faster than arbites kek

>>529531020
But I do so many one shots but sometimes not but aaaaa

Why am I hear sloptubers now thinking the mk3 executioner shotgun is overpowered as fuck? It feels good to me but not insane

>>529530989
If a retard hasn't learned to play after 500 hours, then you're legally obligated to call him a faggot shitter and tell him to get out of your aurics.
Don't be a pussy.

>>529531514
wtf that's me though >>529529271

>>529531097
>Since you're making a meme build (as evident by FOTF)
How is FotF a meme? It's one of the meta builds for zealot, unless you're a havoctranny.

>>529531480
cleaves like a kickback and can snipe really well, too.

>>529531514
Or if you're not a weak shitter yourself, you can just carry. Like we've been doing for 2.5 years.

What do we think of Ready or Not?

>>529531806
I could carry, but malice shitters don't deserve to be carried and therefore don't belong in my aurics.

>>529529668
Why the fuck do you think shitters don't minmax?
I bet they use meta builds and won't make a step without maxxing out their crutches.
But you will barely notice any difference between 500 weapon and 400 weapon. That's how I level them anyway, I bruntforce mastery to 15, make a power 400 weapon with the blessings I want, and then play the game for the remaining 5 levels. Why the fuck would you lock me out from baby difficulty that is auric? My approach is optimal.

>>529531950
then send them to my aurics and let me carry

>>529531514
I want shitters in my aurics.
If I fail and get caught or go down, I get to see them try to worm their way over to me. If they make it, I thank them and they get to feel good for once. If I die I get to spectate and have a laugh and if I carry them I get to feel good about that.

space marine 2 is the better coop game

>>529532031
>Why the fuck do you think shitters don't minmax?
Because they are retarded.
They never actually minmax, the amount of times I see dumbasses running around with half baked gear and retarded skilltrees is the evidence of that.

>>529532218
How dare you

>>529531708
You can run meme builds in baby difficulty, it's fine
But also you will have more fun with extra melee speed and damage from martyrdom

>>529532245
Do you have OCD? I don't think I ever checked anyone's build outside of havoc party finder.

>>529532245
minmaxing is gay. all gameplay and buildcrafting decisions should be purely vibes based and nothing else.

>>529531708
fotf is not a meme, he's just being silly

>using Arbites Maul build
>finally play with an Ogryn for the first time since the Arbites came out
>he's using a not precisely meta build but he's beaten H40 due this cosmetics and title
>still stuck in Damnation because I haven't played enough games due to work
>HINT Damnation
>Ogryn is using a Mk3b, and just clearing everything
>a gang of shotgunners appears and he kills them all with two light swings before I can kill one in melee

Yeah... I think anyone calling for the Arbites to be nerfed is actually retarded. I literally forgot how strong the Ogryn is now since I haven't played with them in a while due to every game being 4 Arbites.

>>529532610
what we if carefully nerf both ogryn and arby at the same time?

>>529532460
I don't, but when I see a player who's playing like shit I'm interested to see what kind of garbage they have.
And 99/100 I am proven right that they are a moronic shitter who don't even min-max.

Shitters are subhumans and don't belong in aurics, simple as.

>>529532245
>half baked gear
The most egregious part about this claim is that this doesn't even matter, and you're still right.
Meta aside, I want to say roughly half the weapons in this game perform adequately with a single blessing, which might as well be a level 300 blue weapon. Most weapons don't care that much about stats. Most weapons only need 1 decent blessing, and that blessing doesn't even need to be high level to perform well enough. The difference between a gray bolter and a fully upgraded one isn't that big unless you're sniping with it, which most people are too stupid to do anyway.

The actually offensive part is the sheer amount of psykers that don't have assail, and STILL don't bring psykinetic's aura, which is absolute, maximum retardation. Ogryns with 2 wound curios. Zealots that play like they're a fucking ranged class. Veterans with shout that can't find their F button. Arbitrators with dog, but no dog nodes, so the fucking thing is more likely to grief my melee than to do anything worthwhile.

>>529530208
More agile, less tanky. Pain/damage loss mechanics.

>>529532882
Maybe we can finally get dual wielding.

I seriously need to relearn how use weapons in melee. I am just spamming shit even though I know I shouldn't be. It's panicked button mashing.

Speaking of which, what's your favorite Maul build and how are you using it? I will probably spend this evening in the Psyker working on my combos so I don't just turn into a mindless button masher at the first sign of enemies like I have so far. Everything is just vibes.

>>529530913
Scourge so you have disgusting crit rate even without FotF. Without blood redemption because why the fuck would you want or need that? You have FotF for toughness replenishment, and any fire that you take should either get eaten by gunner resist, or be restored by staying in fucking coherency.
Right side of blazing piety is a selfish meme. If you're going into it for the crit rate, scourge does the job better. The damage reduction on the left is very nice, and giving everyone around you +10% crit chance is literally twice as good as an entire psyker aura.

>>529532610
I'm not calling for it, it's just going to happen.

>>529532847
>Veterans with shout that can't find their F button.
Worse, veterans who took shout but they don't have the gold toughness node or even the revive on shout node.
I've met some actually retarded people in this game and I don't want them in my games.

>>529533141
if youre using the mk6 shield and maul button mashing light attacks is optimal so long as you throw out a heavy and a push every 5 seconds (if right keystone nodes)

is it just me or maelstrom has been rotating only few missions

They had to have balanced this class for aurics, because it thrives only because there is so much shit in your face.

>>529532245
My favourites are the people wearing three wound curios.
on goddamn arbite of all classes.

All zealot builds are the same, when it's supposed to be a support class lmao.

>>529532610
>Yeah... I think anyone calling for the Arbites to be nerfed is actually retarded.
The problem is complex and most anons here are too ESL or too retarded to have an actual conversation about it.
Arby's are balanced for havoc 40, and are balanced in havoc 40. If you're actually half decent at the game and have a good build, the class completely trivializes anything below maelstroms, and honestly, it even kinda trivializes maelstroms.
Both ogryn and arbitrator have issues with the skill floor for performing "well enough" being far too low, and thus being too strong even in the hands of a good player, i.e. too easy. This is immensely apparent in the lower difficulties, where THE DOG ALONE can outperform the average retard.

>>529533338
>or even the revive on shout node
It's surprisingly less meme than you might think. For how much piss toughness is memed, if another player is dedicated to it (think support zealot), you don't strictly NEED to use shout for piss toughness (though you should always take that skill anyway), and there have been times where a shout res veteran basically clutched the game in otherwise unsalvageable situations. Now, I'm not advocating for it, and ideally such situations shouldn't even come up, but it's far from useless.
>but anon, what about aurics and below?
It's pretty meme yeah, but I respect the grind if someone is just farming the revives penance. It's still a retarded choice, because stealth builds are better at it, but that's besides the point. I'd rather someone bring res shout and actually fucking use it, than some retard who has single digit ability activations by the end of the game, as per Power DI.

>>529533462
What I've personally noticed is that the moment that my stacks drop off, if I get a gunner(s) open up on me from behind or some awkward angle, I drop instantly like an Ogryn in high Havocs before the buff. It feels like the class is genuinely not that tough if it doesn't have shit to swing on. If it does? You're Gucci. If it doesn't? You're dead. Maybe this could also be a problem that I am not so used to because I normally play Vet and Zealot and whenever I feel even the slightest bit of trouble, I can just blast piss tough and move away from the problem. They can't do that. I can be on my Vet and getting shot up in the same situation, but hit Shout and buy myself more then enough time to navigate to cover and assess where the shooting is coming from.

I only went down once this morning, and got severely fucked up a few other times. All of which came from this exact situation. A lull in the fight with things in front of me, followed up by some gunner(s) deciding to come out of cover from behind or above and melt my ass down to 25% HP in the blink of an eye.

I wouldn't be as pissed off about the cash shop if there were just some way to earn some Aquilas in game. Even if it was just a random drop that gives you 10 or 20 a pickup.

>>529533876
Zealot is only a support class in high havocs. The havoc support build doesn't really work all that well in lower difficulties, in part because enemy density isn't relevant enough for flamer to be a good weapon yet, and in part because nobody ever sticks together for chorus to even do anything. You can't herd cats.
Damage cope zealots are superior in aurics, and actually pretty good there. All of those builds look the same because other talent paths are pointless memes. Actual zealot build diversity only exists in havoc, where damage cope zealots that just bring token chorus so they don't get declined are a cancer and should fucking uninstall. You either go all in on damage, or all in on support.

>>529534096
What class, arbitrator? Sounds like a build issue if you just drop when there's nothing to melee. The top cluster of the tree has such retarded amounts of toughness over time that you should rarely even drop below 50%. You can keep up hyper-aggression with break the line, and when that doesn't work, the class has TWO separate shield weapons that you can use to buy yourself some breathing room if need be, with the melee one being superior for the flashbang. With just 2 skills, the dog gives you more toughness than you could ask for, just for existing. Sounds like you fell for the force of will meme, and/or are running lone wolf with fucking chastity stance lmao

>>529533165
>disgusting crit rate
If I don't one shot, which I do. That's my dilemma.

>>529534932
Using FotF implies that you don't one shot. Why are you using FotF if you do one shot? You won't have infinite FotF to chain one shots with, so it's clearly not what's letting you one shot. If you actually do, you should be running stealth for the immense safety it buys, and shove your weapon up monstrosities' asses.

>>529530208
Speaking both in terms of darktide but also 40k lore/setting (and the tabletop)
Ogryns have big guns, a big hp pool and generally are big
Beastmen are none of that, they are usually depicted wielding both a melee weapon and a gun at the same time, usually a makeshift weapon of sorts.
Beastmen are notable for their bloodlust, and so were recruited often into the imperial guard, but overtime they have been more and more persecuted, and are theorized to eventualy lose their abhuman status, resulting in them being persecuted as most other xenos. Doesn't help they are also often found worshipping the chaos gods. The Fellgore Ravagers >>529532882 anon posted are usually dual wielding weapons (one of the models even has three arms), with one of the beastmen using their claws instead.
My idea is as follows:
Something to use with corruption, some sort of node/tree branch that rewards high corruption with extra damage, toughness damage reduction, etc. think something akin to zealot's martyr wound mechanic but instead it's focused on corruption and how much % of the health it has taken.
Some sort of dual wielding when it comes to their weapons, two knives, a mish mash of weapons perhaps, a club and an autopistol, etc. though the latter could be achieved with an increased swap speed, encouraging the usage of both weapons in quick succession.
A sort of faithful/loyalist branch of the talent tree would be neat, but I worry it might just be zealot++. Something to do with their mutations/animal features would be great too, say a charge of sorts akin to the ogryn's and zealots one, a single target charge that applies bleed and staggers the enemy (though not too large enemies of course, against say ogryns the player is also slightly stunned)
Though I would certainly like to hear your thoughts anon(s).

>>529533893
>The problem is complex and most anons here are too ESL or too retarded to have an actual conversation about it.

See, I'm not a shit player. Rusty? Yeah, absolutely. I haven't played since the first month of Havoc coming out. Well, sort of. I came back a few weeks before Arbites was added to see how strong the Ogryn really was and laughed out loud to myself at it. Rust and all, I was absolutely just decimating everything without even thinking about my build. The Arbites on the other hand feels nowhere near close to that sort of power. Unless someone is saying they are because they have a sustainability to them due to the toughness restore and TDR capacity, I am not seeing it. Zealot and Ogryn are stronger in melee (Ogryn especially), Vet is stronger at ranged, Psyker has better utility and AoE/DoTs for days.

None of his weapons feel "incredible", even though I keep seeing people here say otherwise. That's why I am convinced I must be using them wrong since I know people are clearing H40 with the class using shitpost builds (I saw that vid where the took every node in the first tier).

And I don't want to watch YouTubers because I've never trusted them. My sort of institutional knowledge of the game has completely withered at this point, to the extent I can't even really understand what makes a good build for the Arbites when prior to that I could easily piece together a strong build for the other classes without doing research. Just reading the (true descriptions of) nodes, and thinking about what weapons are strong with what blessings/perks.

Is it a strong class? Sure, but it doesn't feel any stronger to me than the other human classes when they are built in a meta way. That's why I sort of have to agree with the original assessment I saw posted here that the Arbites is stronger than the Vet but weaker than the Zealot, and the Zealot is considerably weaker than the Ogryn.

honestly i just like playing pskyer because i can just chuck bubbles and shock stuff with my lightning staff the whole time and do alright

>>529535128
It's like 90% one shots. Rest are two.
Come on now.

>>529534760
Nah, I am doing neither. Not using the dog seems pointless, although I may for the extra grenade and the Regen to get the "kill 5 guys at once" penance done when I get to it, just to save time. So far I've been ping ponging between EO and Forceful. Neither feels... right? I guess might be the word. And every build I see is pretty different. I have saved about twelve, fourteen different builds from the thread in the last few days and all of them are different in key ways. This thread alone has some really, really different shit. Even in the first section of the tree, skipping certain nodes and taking others. No other class is like this.

please give me a dueling sword and Relic Blade build for zealot

They really have no fucking shame.

>>529535985
IDK, game's better than Ubislop.

>>529501528
Got that one by accident during a hunting grounds map
It helped that my team poodled off

I can't imagine doing aurics without bubble on psyker. Having to charge your attacks at all feels like I'm opening myself up.

>>529535431
Your insights and opinions are really interesting to me, but you said it yourself
>My sort of institutional knowledge of the game has completely withered at this point, to the extent I can't even really understand what makes a good build
In a roundabout way, you don't understand the game well enough to discern what actually makes it powerful, and this isn't a dig at you or anything.

>None of his weapons feel "incredible"
That's because they kinda aren't, except maybe the shieldless arby's maul. A lot of the power comes from the skill tree achieving kinda retarded damage numbers if you fully build for it, and the fact that, even if you aren't building for max damage, a small handful of damage nodes are just way too easy and efficient to get, while putting out far too good numbers.
The shield maul VI for example is actually kind of incredible because it has loads of stagger, a really good moveset for both hordes and single target, has a shield, has a flashbang, AND good blessings that synergize with already powerful builds (bolt pistol puncture on remote det, but also accatran pump shotgun burn/bleed).

Arbitrator does melee differently than zealot. Arbitrator gets stuck in a dense horde and mostly holds it in place while surviving even if there's dozens of armored fucks, zealot kinda needs to weave around it and doesn't horde clear specifically armor as well without crutching on the dueling sword. In havoc 40 they definitely have different roles, because damage zealots there are more single target focused. It just doesn't matter in lower difficulties.

>>529535929
Arbitrator has a healthy skill tree in the sense that it seems to allow pretty good diversity. The class is just a little on the strong/easy side, if not by much. I don't want useless meme nodes added to the tree, but the top especially feels far too efficient to become obscenely tanky with, and some damage numbers warrant toning down slightly.

>>529535985
>>we are in a good place
>ogryn and arbites are so OP that they invalidate the game on anything but havoc
>the balance patch added in this update barely did fuck all to any of the weapons, eviscerators and combat shitguns feel basically the same
>intentionally left out the biggest problems, dueling sword and plasma
>story is still the same and didn't go forward
>no new missions
>no new weapons for other classes
>no skilltree rework for zealot and vet who both desperately need it
>the only actual thing we got is just them fucking up the mission board and objectively making it worse
>wE ArE iN a GoOd PlAcE
I hate the Sweden.

>>529536132
That's not a high bar to reach.

>>529536731
>combat shitguns feel basically the same
You haven't used them, stop spreading misinformation. The combat shotguns are markedly better than they were before.
>biggest problems
>plasma
This is a shitter take. The way that plasma becomes overpowered is if the veteran plays his role incorrectly. It's only really felt when enemies line up in a corridor, or you shoot clown car shotgunners, in non-havoc difficulties. The bolter is a better weapon at doing veteran's job. And don't you start with ammo efficiency, magdumping is an admission of not knowing how to use the thing on vet.

Correct on all other accounts.

>>529535985
fucking cunts all of them

>>529537052
>You haven't used them, stop spreading misinformation.
I have.
Both the slug shotgun and the fire one.
Both feel like shit and not great.
>muh plasma isn't OP
>words words words
Fuck off you chinese bugman.

>no melta gun
>no melta pistol
>no plasma pistol
>no dual wield pistol + melee weapon of any type
>no dual wield weapons whatsoever period either (a fucking shield does not count)
>no power fist
>no chain flail
>no force flail
>no chainglaive
>no heavy flamer
>no plasma cannon
>no human stubber
>no hotshot volley gun
>no hotshot lasguns
>no autocannon
>no two handed chainaxe
>no two handed rockcrete maul
>no two-handed ogryn sword
>no grav weapons
>no long las
>no force halberd
>no pic related

i literally only play this game for weapons. i dont give a fuck about new classes only new guns and swords and shit

So how do you balance classes for havok and normal modes for your actual player base and not youtube troons?

>>529537246
>>muh plasma isn't OP
I'm not being contrarian, I genuinely think the plasma bitching is completely overblown. It has really good infinite cleave and really good ammo efficiency at doing exactly that, but this isn't a problem outside of havoc, and in havoc 40 it isn't the veteran's role and worse at using ammo than a flamer.
It's a havoc 20 player take.

I think plasma primary fire is boring and lame and welcome a rework for the gun, idc if the primary gets nerfed, but you're just parroting what unskilled players say and thus admit to being unskilled yourself. Bolter. is. better.

>>529537491
>It has really good infinite cleave and really good ammo efficiency at doing exactly that, but this isn't a problem outside of havoc
It is a problem and just by this alone I can tell you're a complete shitter who's just scared of losing his crutch gun and then be forced to actually engage the fucking mechanics of the game and the gun itself.

So forceful is easily the best keystone right? Uninterruptible alone makes it worth taking. But what about castigators vs break the line IF you’re using shock mines? I’ve found I hardly have good bash opportunities when using the mines because the cc is already obscene. Castigators is a cozy single point investment that basically lets me take rebreather and true grit for free making me bullshit proof.

>>529536731
The old shotguns are surprisingly viable now.
Psyker needs a talent tree rework more than zealots or vetersans.
Ogryn and Arbites aren't inherently OP, but certain synergies in talents break the game. The problem is mainly in the retarded amounts of toughness they can replenish just by mashing m1. Also, balance isn't some god-standard that should be strived for at all cost, for it does not guarantee fun.

>>529536592
>In a roundabout way, you don't understand the game well enough to discern what actually makes it powerful, and this isn't a dig at you or anything.

This is part of the bit that's throwing me. I could install the scoreboard, record a couple of games, and then switch over to my Vet (who I haven't touched since Havoc's release, like I mentioned) and I guarantee in the first game or two I'd absolutely obliterate my own scores on the Arbites even though that's all I've been playing with during my scarce free time. And I know that to be the case, because I still perfectly understand why my Vet build works, and what I need to do. Would I be squishier? Yeah, in theory, but I can just shout all the time, hurl Shredders, burn everything with my Recon, and DS6 the big shit to death. I saw someone mention once that Recon Vet is so easy, and so powerful that you can just hold down M1+W and not look at your screen for the whole match, and likely come in first. Now, that was before the Ogryn change, but I am still willing to bet that this busted build can clear just about anything short of Havoc solo. And even that's only because of the ammo reductions.

>>529537491
humans will nearly always trade efficacy for ease-of-use

>>529537491
People can’t talk about balance anymore because the go to authorities are man children that make a living playing the game. Plasma primary fire is too strong for how spamable it is while it’s alt fire doesn’t feel great.

>>529537745
>projecting
Take your meds. I don't use the plasma gun, and have observed every plasma vet to be a shitter. I acknowledge that it's strong, but the thing it's good at isn't what a veteran should be doing in havoc. For all of its ammo efficiency, it doesn't even have particularly good DPS even when fully optimized for primary fire, because you have to deal with the stupid heat mechanic.
Try having an actual conversation instead of acting like some monkey ape nigger and immediately flinging shit and projection.

Why do people complain about the plasma gun? it feels balanced to me whenever i've been using it
the charge attack is obviously very strong but i've been having mixed effects with it, sometimes it hits a plague ogryn for like 10-20% of its hp bar, sometimes it just tickles it
I think, maybe
>>529537310
>>no plasma cannon
>>no autocannon
might be too big for a human to carry

>>529538050
>too big for human
is for ogryn
>not smart enough
do not worry friends!

>>529537310
Soon TRUST THE PLAN

>>529519862
holy fuck imagine grabbing her wrists and pressing her against the wall

>>529537998
>Take your meds. I don't use the plasma gun, and have observed every plasma vet to be a shitter.
Even more evidence that you're just a retard who has a stick up his ass only because he has fuck all understanding about what is being talked.

>Fixed the incorrect inclusion of the Radio Operator in the “Elitist” penance.
Oh nice
Now that just leaves killing 6,694 more scavs for 'Cull the Traitors'

>>529537851
>but I am still willing to bet that this busted build can clear just about anything short of Havoc solo. And even that's only because of the ammo reductions.
This made me laugh for how out of touch that statement is. Trust me, recon las veteran couldn't do that in havoc even with an infinite ammo cheat.

>I still perfectly understand why my Vet build works, and what I need to do
With the implication that you don't understand how to make a good arbitrator build, or what the class' role should even be. Which is fine, you should probably experiment more, maybe swallow the jewtuber pill to at least see how other people play and how their builds function, then use that knowledge to formulate your own build. Or use an actually good build from here, and not some random garbage some retard threw together and called good.

>>529535576
if it works it works

>>529538330
what's that on the left?

>>529538381
>has fuck all understanding about what is being talked.
ESL, thanks for conceding that you're not worth having an argument with.

>>529535985
We are in a good place. Game is great. People just love to focus on the negatives.

>>529536731
There's an infinite number of things you can do to improve this game.
There's a limited number of people working on it.

Arby is so strong his iron club can cut crusher in half

>>529538496
I believe it's a longlas, but strangely that it has no scope.

>>529538713
>There's an infinite number of things you can do to improve this game.
Yes.
>There's a limited number of people working on it.
I don't give a shit.
Give me more new fucking maps and weapons. You know, actual fucking content.
Instead rehashing a thing that didn't need to be changed, especially when the change has only just made it fucking worse.

Magdump the poxie that is two meters from me and twenty from you. Yes thank you.

The shock maul vs shield and maul debates feel exactly like the ones people used to have in V2
>why is something super safe when you can use something that does more damage and just play perfectly?
Sure the shield version kills things slower, but everything spends the entire fight on its ass or shocked, making the team overall safer.

>>529535985
Is this the same guy who promised you'll be able to buy items without leftover aquilas at launch and that it was a "honest mistake"?
you still can't

>>529539030
>BLAM BLAM BLAM BLAM BLAM BLAM BLAM BLAM BLAM BLAM BLAM BLAM BLAM BLAM click-click-click
I NEED AMMO!

>>529538442
>This made me laugh for how out of touch that statement is. Trust me, recon las veteran couldn't do that in havoc even with an infinite ammo cheat.

As far as I understand it, they made Havoc easier due to bitching. Max bleeds, Max burns Vet is... nightmarish when smacking shit with a Uncanny DS6, and just hitting Shout every time it comes up. The only reason I stopped trying to run it on Havoc was because of the ammo economy simply being too oppressive. I switched to Plasma because Bolter was a piss poor choice for deletion when the Zealot had a flamer, and Plasma had better economy, range, and punch through. The ultimate point here, I guess I am trying to articulate is that the Veteran has a gun with close to infinite ammo due to Stormtrooper that burns everything, and those burns can hit insane numbers due to the DS6 smacking things. This only falls off because the ammo economy (even with Stormtrooper) wasn't good enough for Havocs with Emperors Dying Light 2 due to the extremely light ammo spawns, bad ammo returns, and drastic ammo pool reduction. If Havoc didn't effect ammo, I suspect that Recon would be the weapon to take as it'd synergize strongly with the Flamer only working in short bursts in combination with it's ability to despatch with ranged specials/elites. What I am saying shouldn't be controversial because I think we'd both agree that there are certain weapons/builds that are really only idea for Havoc because of what Havoc is, but outside of Havoc they are not best in slot.

>Or use an actually good build from here, and not some random garbage some retard threw together and called good.

The catch there is that everyone says what they are using is good. I saw someone critically review another guy's build earlier and made some tweaks to it after experimenting with it. I might give them both a shot later after I catch a couple of Z's.

>>529538998
>Give me more new fucking maps and weapons. You know, actual fucking content.
Don't worry, we're making sure the next event has an event-only map and event-only weapons! You'll love it for the two weeks it's available!

>>529539030
based

>THE LEX IS COMPLEX
>ACTUALLY ITS NOT
>AS A MATTER OF FACT, I AM THE LEX
Um sorry sweety that's extremely problematic and lexnormative not to mention bigoted *snaps tentacle*

>>529538162
>is for ogryn
too fragile for ogryn
>>529538050
>no replies
plasma chuds reign supreme

>>529539905
>they made Havoc easier due to bitching.
Not as far as I can tell. They made ammo economy SLIGHTLY less oppressive because non-veteran compositions could only afford to have one guy ever shooting a gun, but it didn't explicitly get easier. The aids puddle mod just hasn't returned yet, and that filtered a lot of players. Maybe it never will return.
The spawns overall are actually kind of more cancerous, and they made it harder to get true survivor as a result.

>Bolter was a piss poor choice for deletion
Hordes aren't your job as veteran in havoc 40. Your job is to one-tap every gunner, sniper, reaper, and disabler out of existence before they can become a threat. If you bring uncanny frags, that's fine, potentially even catapults you to the top of the scoreboard, but even that isn't necessary. I've had better results with my veterans using kraks or smokes. Horde clear is the psyker's or flamer zealot's job, and usually you don't need to contribute to that, besides maybe whipping out your power sword or whatever. If you are the dedicated sniper, you can even rightfully ask for the support zealot to be your bodyguard if you have one.

Yes, you can technically play veteran for horde clear in h40, but that role is almost always better served by a different class, and most other classes aren't all that good at sniping entrenched gunners, and on some maps basically can't depending on loadout. If you have an ogryn, you'd rather he keep whacking and controlling the horde in melee, even if heavy stubber is good at sniping.

Thoughts on these stats for the bolter?

>>529541125
Mobility is the dumpstat.
Mobility 60%, everything else should be 80%.

>>529541125
Collateral is the dumpstat.
Collateral 60%, everything else should be 80%.

>>529541125
Stability is the dumpstat.
Stability 60%, everything else should be 80%.

>>529538050
>Why do people complain about the plasma gun?
Because it ammo efficiently annihilates dense hordes, and people don't realize that other classes can already do that, and more efficiently.
>how
If you're using the secondary fire, you're basically using it wrong.
70/70 thermal and charge rate with optimized cooling lets you tape down the trigger for a fuckload of shots compared to other builds, and does really quite good damage that just cleaves through everything and kills monstrosities decently well.

I don't agree with it being so centralizingly overpowered that it must be nerfed. I rarely if ever see it in my havoc 40 games, and those that do bring plasma, don't actually stand out. In lower difficulties, it plain doesn't have enough enemies to infinite cleave through for that to be relevant. Maybe some ESLtard is going to pitch in with their retarded opinion, who knows.

>>529541570
>Because it ammo efficiently annihilates dense hordes
can't you just melee

>>529541125
>thoughts on these stats
It's a bolter. Its stats don't actually matter all that much, losing out on 5 damage isn't going to affect any breakpoints. If you're poor and buying a perfect one would break the bank, don't worry about it until you have the money to afford it.

Collateral is a good dump stat if you aren't expecting to hard crutch on pinning fire. If you are using pinning fire, collateral is still the dump stat unless you're in havoc, where enemies are harder to CC.
Mobility is a good dump stat if you expect to use the bolter as a proper secondary weapon, and mostly melee. If you're dedicating your build to it as a veteran, mobility can be useful to have high depending on your build.
Stability feels like cancer to dump and I want to have fun, so I'm not dumping that.

I'd dump collateral for aurics, and mobility for havocs.

>>529539030
>bolter-bitch arbiter shoots my execution target that my dog has already pounced one time
>spend the rest of the map hoovering as much ammo as possible to the detriment of the team

>>529541570
>100 cleave (practically infinite) on non-charged shots and also doing retarded damage to everything, 1 shotting most soft elites, and fucking crusher and bulwark hordes easily, is not OP
>gun that has 100 shots in the mag
>said light shots only take about 1 ammo from the mag when you tap fire
>and you can achieve all of this with just tap firing the gun without having to actually charge the weapon (the defining trait of it) and don't have to interact with its actual mechanics
Plasma is retarded, there's no 2 ways about it.

>>529541125
if you sprint around with your bolter out you're retarded, therefore mobility
all the others have some upside, mobility doesn't, you swap to a melee wep to move anyway

>>529541673
Power sword with sunder and heavy attacks can, indeed, "just melee" even dense mixed/armored hordes. It's just a question of whether you are brave enough to gamble your survival in havoc when there's 2-3 dozen of the fuckers, they all become CC immune below half health, and also regenerate to full when you kill one of their buddies.

>>529542130
>shooting crushers and bulwarks
Well you're not joining my havocs, that much is for sure.

>ogryn with reddit or cyrillic name joins the game

What is the most helpful class (and build) to have on your team with the lowest skill requirement? I wish this game had a healer.

>>529542675
Shout and Ammo aura veteran. No team with any semblance of a working brain will be mad to have you.

>>529542675
ZELOT WITH THE ICON IS A HEALR

>>529541125
you will stop worrying about cash sooner rather than later and you will replace it with a perfect roll
500 with random stats is still better than 350 with proper stats that you would get from brunt, so if resources or mastery are not available, just use anything you can get from melk
and when you're going to make a perfect rolled one, collateral is the dump stat

>>529541125
Oh those stats are random?

>>529542675
>most helpful
A good chorus zealot, probably. Those are unicorns that basically don't exist, and nobody sticks together enough in most difficulties for it to matter tho.
Veteran with ammo aura and shout, and ideally upgraded crates is very good. Middle keystone even becomes a team-wide damage aura when fully upgraded. It can be a little tricky to play though, because the instant you fall below 75% toughness you just instantly eat shit, and unless you're in the gold, a teammate shooting a burster in your face just downs you lol.
Ogryn is as easy as he's useful with a good build, honestly.
Arbitrator with a good dog build and ammo efficient weapons is very useful, and I see a good number of those in difficulties they have no business being in, carried by how easy their class is.

>lowest skill requirement
Probably ogryn because it's the tard class, or veteran because FPS brain works, just pay attention to your surroundings and learn how to melee (or at least block and scream for help)

Sorry, but I just think that the shield shock maul is better.

>>529543131
all stats are random

>>529542337
>two ogryns absolutely covered in slop are on the team
>they have matching names
>they're both rumbler builds
>they intentionally fight daemonhosts

>>529542675
Ogryn charger.
They're THE BEST for getting the zealot who ran in to the crowd and got downed up

>>529535985
Anon it's 2025 and this is just normal now. We can whine all we want, but in an age of digital distribution where updating and fixing games are possible at all.

As long as the team gives a shit and updates and listens to their community. What do you want me to do, knock on their doors and demand their games be perfect at 1.0 every single time, for all devs?

>>529543295
>not intentionally fighting daemonhosts and absolutely shitting on them before corruption can even tick up
You're lame and gay and I bet you're one of those retards who goes WTF??? in chat when someone facefucks a daemonhost.

>>529542337
I can't tell if the dude was lagging or had literal speedhacks, he was strafing at the speed of the combat knife with like 20% movement speed buff, but he was wielding a crusher and although he did have 20% movespeed in his tree, it wasn't active because he didn't take damage

>>529543536
i blame graphicsfags and non-developers bloating the everliving fuck out of game dev costs

>>529531889
I thought it was pretty fun. Played it with a couple friends. You should probably grab an AI mod if you play it though since the AI was very inhuman in its reactions and stuff. I haven't played it solo with the friendly bots, so I can't really comment on how that works.

>>529542675
ogryn taunt with aggressive shield

>>529543536
>What do you want me to do, knock on their doors and demand their games be perfect at 1.0 every single time, for all devs?
It's how this worked in the past.
The game wasn't good? Then it flopped and the devs went bankcrupt and lost their jobs.
Now the natural selector has been taken out and all the dipshits and retard devs get to keep making games despite pushing dogshit.

>>529541125
Damage is a dumpstat
Search your heart, and you will know it to be true.

Fatshark should make all stats on weapons actually random as well.
Like I don't mean the numbers, I mean the actual stat bars themselves.
Like say a bolter doesn't always have a mobility stat and instead has a finesse stat.

>>529544307
That's what different marks are for, retard.
We could've had a finesse bolter years ago, but these lazy swiggers are allergic to adding actual content.

>>529544770
>That's what different marks are for, retard.
Those should have random stat bars as well.

>>529544307
None of the shit should be random so they can actually balance the weapons properly

Not gonna lie, I always forget how short the twins mission is.

Execution Order still good in H40, or should I just run Forceful at that point for extra impact and cleave?

>>529545502
Execution order will always be good for the xray vision alone.
But it's also the only way to make the dog eat up some elites in good time.

>>529545623
>Arbites not eating all the small ammo boxes but not giving a fuck about the large
What? you not using shotties?

>>529545502
>>529545641
Not to mention the cooldown reduction and monstrosity damage nodes.

masteried the plasma gun
what do I do now, what more purpose is there in life

>>529543618
one of them nearly died doing it, at no point did they kill it before it even stood up

>wake up
>SC2 Coop dead
>DoWar2 coop is dead and has only 2 maps
>Wc3 maps are a hassle to play with friends because of reforged
RTShitter bros...

>>529542675
Bubble Psyker, just don't blow yourself up.

>the mauler splits into 9 copies

>>529546119
>if they ever fixed this it actually would make the game harder
lol

>>529546050
>>SC2 Coop dead
>stormgate announced
>hope for more sc2 coop
>stormgate releases
>it's dogshit
I should've never trusted former blizzard devs

Voidstrike staff is best staff.

>>529546119
>OUT OF MY WAY
>BONK
>KNEEL!
>BONK THWOMP
>SUFFEEEER!!!!
>[electric dog noises]
>everything fucking dies
THE LEX IS THE LEX.

mag dumb bolter build when

>>529543536
>and listens to their community
The problem is Fatshark takes years to listen to the community. The community identifies problems day 1 and Fatshark stubbornly fixes things 'their way', often making it worse, until finally giving in and begrudgingly throwing players a bone. Then players whoop and holler that "portulent cacharadon listened the game is saved!" and buy 15 dollar cosmetics to celebrate until a week later they realize the rework still sucks and needs rework 2.0 but it's a snow year in sweden. For the latest example, take the dumpster fire that is the mission select.

>>529546119
What?

>>529546318
Blast*

>>529545641
>>529545829
Right on. Thanks. Today I will get out of the hell that is the low 30s. And if I don't, I'm not touching Havoc again until the next reset.

>>529546243
Classic mistake. Classic fucking mistake.
Anyone announcing they are a "former blizzard when it was good employee!!!" Is a gig grifter that worked on like, cleaning toilets or something.

>>529546812
>Classic mistake. Classic fucking mistake.
Thankfully I know better now
alas, it still hurts

>>529546518
wrongo

Is it a retard move to +10% v Staggered Aura over Dog-Coherency Aura if Im using the dog? My darktide career has conditioned me to thinking damage > everything else.

any male arbi personalities that stand out as good or bad?

>>529547618
yes

>>529547618
Male fatalist doesn't even work yet.
Hasn't even at release. It just plays Male Authoritarian voice lines.

>>529547386
Not retarded. Stagger damage is good both with or without dog.

>>529547045
>why do you like that weapon so much?
>I just do

>>529547891
I hate you.

Mother fuuuuuuuucker

I HATE GUNENRS I HATE GUNNERS
I HATE GUNENRS I HATE GUNNERS
I HATE GUNENRS I HATE GUNNERS
I HATE GUNENRS I HATE GUNNERS
I HATE GUNENRS I HATE GUNNERS

>>529546050
Dawn of war 1 remake will bring us back, trust. If they update the engine properly there is a chance we'll get more custom maps mods, like in glory days.

>>529546504
The glacial pace they move at is insane. It's taken 2 years plus the initial development time and it really only feels like a "complete" game now.

>>529548421

what even are the combos on the mk6 sword and stick
do you just light spam? it feels like you just light spam

>>529549085
>sword and stick
what?

>>529548421
Just slide bro

>>529549085
You mean the shield and stick?
Squishy elites: light spam
Chunky elites: light - heavy loop (or light spam. I don't remember there being a tremendous difference, but light-heavy came out slightly ahead when I tested it)
Hordes 1: heavy - light loop
Hordes 2: push attack - light - heavy

Dog is cute ngl

>SM2 gets a techmarine class
When does Darktide get the skitarii?

>>529549085
>>529549327
Against tanky elites you can just do normal light spam except replace light 2 with a heavy in the chain.

>>529546119
See >>529546507

suggested bolter veteran builds?
I tried using executioner's stance (with counter fire) and marksman's focus, with the plan to use the bolter's high damage to one-shot ranged enemies
issue I had was, often times the ranged enemies didn't spawn and instead it was groaners and poxers, or that I couldn't find a good spot to snipe the enemies from (I love the ogryn's fat ass blocking my view)
any advice?
>>529549714
when mechanicus 2 releases

>>529549714
2027/2028

>>529548806
I wonder what they actually do all day at the studio.
Like ok, making the game from ground up is hard. But no way they have everyone working on console ports for two years, this is a tech job. If you have modelers working on new cosmetics they should be pumping out those every month, not just recolors and remixes. And from gameplay perspective, it's mostly number changes, not like they are adding enemy types and variations. Plus on top of that it's clear they aren't testing and bug fixing thing, every patch adds mind-bogglingly glaring problems.

>>529549786
Pretty sure my Bolter build is something like this. Exec felt like overkill, and I like the survivability/utility of shout more.

>>529520316
>was being a normal person
I don't think that's quite true of someone who clearly models himself off of Mongol warlords. As best as I can tellbthat might have been his intention once upon time but he's pretty aware he no longer has that choice or he wouldn't be on his 10k+ year long Drukhari hunt

>>529549786
>>529550151
Oh, but check your breakpoints. You may be able to drop rending and 15% elite damage and pick up crit stuff from right side. I can't remember if I ever checked those.

>>529550151
honestly very (un-)suprisingly similar to my plasma build, where I tried to focus on the ability to melt down tough enemies (crushers for example are one shotted with a charged shot)

>>529540551
(This post was fact checked by real progressive Chaos followers: true!)

>>529519862
Made for being manhandled by males

Scrier's Gaze staff is fucking edge of seat challenging, but fun.

>>529550539
is it basically edging your perils?

>>529550464
Inquisitor, where is this group getting their funding? ImperiAid?

>>529549786
I think VoC is a little too strong at higher difficulties to pass up in favour of Executioner's, but something fun you can do is take the +30% reload speed node, the +25% Weapon Swap speed node, and then the Weapons Specialist keystone at the bottom right alongside its +20 Reload Speed secondary node. With that, you should vaporize anything resembling a boss/ogryn pack. The ideal playstyle with that is to melee with your team until a high value target pops up, atomize it by magdumping your Bolter, then going back to melee with the rest of the team

>>529549714
Techpriest class in 2 more years and Admech skins for the Rejects to larp as Skitties at the same time

>>529550885
that sounds really fucking funny actually, will check it out

>>529549714
>releasing a new class
>in a game where classes are limited per team
>and matchmaking now prefers to match people who do not having matching classes
l o l
I hope power axe at least replaces the chainsword on vanguard and tactical, but I bet the fags will only give it to vanguard, bulwark, and assault

>>529535417
(you) cause your post was interesting but I have nothing to add and no one else has replied

Who "The Gauntlet"ed better
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MK5pGJZi78
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPhVCcHhqaI

>>529551889
both slap, jespers wins though because it sounds way more unique

>>529551889
Who knew this was the perfect track to start a breach into an enemy barracks or run through a ventilation tunnel full of enemies to stop an alarm?

>>529551734
>All that bullshit
>When Arbitities just came out

>>529550093
I think it's a skeleton crew with a lot of the devs on their secret project. Various anons have been saying the cosmetics are probably outsourced, but I doubt they are paying much for what we're getting. Darktide uses a dead engine so that probably has an impact on workflow. But different teams should be doing different tasks, so map design shouldn't be impacted when the gameplay guys are fixing itemization, nor should any of that impact enemy development. Honestly I would love to see what their resource and team management is like because it's all just slow and disconnected when viewed from the outside

>>529551889
The heretics' printer is broken and needs to be shut down.

>>529552363
Arbites is already boring

>>529550701
oh yeah. Pumping damage into specials and elites so that you recharge Scrier's gaze and keep your perils at 100% most of the time.

Over here one shotting everything but bosses at full charge going sicko mode.

>>529551889
https://youtu.be/Wvya3fvO4vM?t=15

>Archive mission
>Go down in the archive
>Nobody revives me
>Respawn
>Nobody revives me until it's on escape

>>529552693
Skills. Lemme know if I can change things around, but I'm loving the damage.

>>529553036
Equip. I mostly keep my staff out at all times. Sword is just for blocks and trash mobs, but even then I just blast trash mobs by shooting the ground and they all go flying anyway.

Debating switching from 60% charge rate to 60% quell speed, but sometimes you need

>>529552775
dont worry bro if we ever play together I will get you up, I am nice like that

Why is it that Fem-fatalist sounds more like Laezel when she's Fem-Authoritarian?

>>529553248
Now that Im looking at it. I should go for 60% warp resist as dump. And rethink the force sword completely.

>>529553517
>I am nice like that
Yes my beloved

oh hey that's Rannick up there

>>529555856
he's judging you

>>529555884
judging whether or not you can keep railing him from behind a secret

>>529535985
I mean, they’re not wrong? Isn’t that literally true? It did take a while to get here. At least the game is in serviceable state now.

>>529556149
Or that we did this with Vermintide 2 before.

Can we finally agree that the prisoner rejects thing was a mistake and we should’ve just been stock guardsmen from the get-go?

>>529549786
I recommend getting both reload speed nodes at the top of the tree, and the weapon swap node. You've now mitigated the biggest weakness of the weapon.

>>529527038
>>529527640
>>529529047
I get hard when this is said

>>529531063
What was it

No matter what I try to do, it always ends up being me and maybe one other guy against two bosses in Havoc. Last game, one of the bosses was a captain with the healing aura. Fuck my life, dude. I'll bother with Havoc next reset, I guess.

>>529556329
>we should’ve just been stock guardsmen
Veteran is in the game already.
You wanted all 4 original classes to just be 4 different veterans?

>>529556497
3 veterans with set personalities and a psyker

>>529556663
Even gayer and worse.

>>529556149
it is TRUE, but the real issue is
it should have NEVER been a thing in the first place
game studios shouldn't be applauded for fixing the mess they created and released too early in the first place
it's like the server issues during the release of Helldivers 2 and Payday 3
the former was because there were simply way more people than the developers expected, too many for the servers to cope with. People waited in queues to have a chance to play.
the latter was because the servers sucked dogshit, even with barely any players. People waited for the servers to actually work properly.
>>529556663
>3 kerillians
grim darkness

>>529556329
i don't care either way
as long as I get to slaughter bad guys i'm happy

>>529555856
He sometimes jacks off and blows off a load down on the Rejects. Usually it gets cleaned instantly by Zealots rushing to lick it clean.

>>529545623
>BIGGEST
>GETS
>BIGGEST
>AMMO

They should add felinids but make them ugly as fuck. Just make them look like chimpanzees or something (why would humans evolve into cat people when we're apes?)

>>529523834
Kek’d
>>529524140
It can be. It just doesn’t have to happen continuously
>>529527259
No they’re straight and constantly breed like crazy

>>529556329
No. The rejects is a good set piece. That said, if you have completed all content so far, you would be considered more or less part of the warband,

>>529555856
>"I can't get down! Go get a ladder!"

>>529556817
>WE THANK THE BENEFICENT EMPEROR FOR HIS GENE-SEED!~

>>529556663
>3 veterans with set personalities
Seeing that Fatshark made Hallowette and Dukane and Masozi, you really think they would've done a better job with making uberseik 5 but in 40k?
Fuck no.

>>529557015
>No they’re straight and constantly breed like crazy
The few leaders and best warriors only get to breed with females. The common clan rats and lower stormvermin probably rape and rut each other all the time.

>>529556329
Adds a little flavor and immediacy.

So. What are some good Psyker builds?

>>529556939
yes, and then add ratlings but make them hideous with grotesque hairy feet and no way to tell the two genders apart, and the admech should have rotten flesh and pus filled sores all over the skin parts
god, I fucking hate beauty, and white people
t. swedistani

>>529557268
the 6 vet personalities they actually did make don't seem that bad

>>529557436
>noooo the abhumans aren't walking sex dolls
lmao yes that's why I want them to be ugly as fuck. To spite retards like you.

>>529557674
>I'll eat shit just to spite you
oh no, I'm so affected by this

>>529557268
Darktide personalities that are objectively better than any of the Ubersreik 5:
>veteran loose cannon
>psyker loner
>psyker seer
>zealot fanatic

>>529557674
You don't like 40k, you hate abhumans.

>>529557864
Loose cannon and fanatic are funny I guess but you are out of your mind if you would put either of them over the VT crew

>>529523834

>>529556939
Achieved symbiosis with toxoplasmosis

>>529540745
>Your job is to one-tap every gunner, sniper, reaper, and disabler out of existence before they can become a threat.
This is what the Plasma Gun is for. The primary fire is a better version of the revolver, you'd have to be retarded to spam it into hordes.

>>529557415
Spam this, and spam shriek
>good
Well you'll live if you mash dodge and stay mostly in coherency.

>>529556939
The Felnids are theorized to be be the result of unironic genetically engineered cat girls made during the DAOT, as are a number of other abhumans, we already know they’re known for their beauty so no chance of that

>>529557436
>gets this upsetti spaghetti over 40k not being coomshit
>pretends being white

>>529558290
This is bait

>>529558426
It's not havoc proof, but you'll live

Would you recommend darktide if I dont have any friends to play it with?

>>529558341
>40k
it's just darktide that has the obsession with erasing women, troon

>>529558543
You don't want to play this with friends anyway. You want to play with randoms.

>>529558479
It's not anything proof it's just intentionally bad

>>529558329
They should just say they devolved and make them ugly as fuck so we can watch the meltdown when people realize they can't goon to abhuman lmao

>>529558479
I wasn't that anon, but I'm not looking for havoc. Just ANYTHING to work with Psyker. What about melee weapon?

>>529558426
there's hardly anything wrong with it. Wildfire should be Mettle, maybe perilous combustion should be kinetic resonance, but the rest is good.

>>529556817
Sounds like he’s living the life to me! >>529550464
>>529550786
Geg

>>529558671
Did the youtuber man tell you that?

>>529558740
Use what you like.

>>529558543
Yeah, Auric Quickplay is still plenty of fun, even after 1k hours. The main downside of not having (skilled) friends to play with crops up when you're trying to play Havocs, but a lot of people don't like them or don't much like them anyway. I'd like them if I had a premade for them, but playing them with randoms can be fucking awful.

>>529558705
you’re weird

>>529558816
Sure, and what about curios? anything?

>>529558895
>y-you're w-w-w-weird *farts*
That the best you got? Retard.

>>529558740
>Just ANYTHING to work with Psyker
You can build for every staff. So that's 4 builds right there.
You can build for gun.
You can build for melee.
So it depends on what you enjoy. I suggest you pick a staff you enjoy, then build around it.

>>529559025

sloptiders will see this and go
>woah, so much exposed skin, zamn, now that's a womyn

>>529558927
Toughness all the way with gunner resist

please your relic blade builds sars

>>529558760
The point of Wildfire is a starting point for the burn. But I did fuck up and it shouldn't be Warp Rupture but Creeping Flames. The shrieks are for hordes.

>>529558927
I believe in you.

>>529559202

>>529559386
is this a body type A or B?

>>529511721
>and the extremely rare quality of being a somewhat sane and reasonable individual in the 42nd millennium because he was raised by a loving mother and father
I honestly love this about him. The guy is pretty much the closest thing to a Superman the 40k universe has. It does make what happened to his brothers all the more tragic though. Angron, Lorgar, Morty, etc. did some truly heinous shit, but you can’t help but sympathize after hearing about the cards they were dealt. I used to be annoyed that out of every Primarch, they chose the somewhat nerdy and bookish less combat inclined guy to come back and lead the Imperium, but over time and after thinking about it more, I realize they sincerely couldn’t have picked a better guy for the job.

>>529559386
KEK I was thinking of the same image

>>529559498
I don't know, they keep switching the two around.
Check hairline if uncertain.

>>529558567
Nothing erases women from your life faster than having the expectations of each and every one of them having the face of a questionably legal korean fuck doll.

>>529545623
Excellent

>>529559627
good thing my expectations are only that they don't look like meth addicts

>>529558816
I can tell a shit build when I see one
Your blitz and staff do the same thing
You have no horde clear
You have meme nodes and avoid meta nodes like mettle, which is a clear indication of it being engineered to be bad
Your ability has no purpose and is not viable by itself
You avoided gunner immunity and peril block, which could pass as a rookie mistake, but I can't ignore other points that prove it's bad by design

I wouldn't mind more abhumans being added but if the entire reason they're being added is pandering to gooners and furries then don't even fucking bother. Just add a servitor class instead.

>>529559807
>Your blitz and staff do the same thing
no, staff is mid range, bb is infinite range, and provides the passive
>You have no horde clear
F deletes hordes. And he can supplement with force greatsword if needed
>meme nodes
irrelevant
>Your ability has no purpose and is not viable by itself
you're retarded
>peril block
is a crutch

>>529559806
Only half of them look like them in the game, and that's seriously about less than what you should expect in this setting. Go rape the village cow or something if you are that horny, Rashj.

are the gooners in the room with us right now?

>>529559894
Gooners are the ones who fund games. They should pander to gooners.

>>529559807
>Your blitz and staff do the same thing
The staff is anti-elite and anti-special, the node makes it more anti-elite and anti-special
>horde clear
>ability has no purpose
It's the same thing. With a mixed elite/special horde you'll get non-stop Shrieks. Non-stop burn.
>meta nodes like mettle
I just love walking slightly faster
>You avoided gunner immunity
Where's your horde clear anon
>Peril block
I can just uh block, now you're talking about a whole different kind of build again.

>>529560240
I am the gooner

>>529560240
Yes.

>>529559894
Beastmen, with male and female variants. Blessed be the furries and gooners.

What are your fav Zealot weapons right now? I have a hard time deciding what to play.

>>529560240

>>529559807
All of those are literally whatevers EXCEPT the gunner immunity, retard.

>>529560309
Peril block is pointless. You can use the shriek to get out of the meltdown animation if you ever fuck up.

Today I will remind them
>>529560572
eviscerator

>>529559894
That's why i don't want any beastmen. That said some coom is good depending on what it is

>>529560845
which mark?

>>529560228
That's nonsense
>crutch
It's the only defensive layer psyker has for bosses

>>529560572
Relic Blade and bolter for carapace and boss deletion.

>>529560805
He's talking about Kinetic Deflection, I think. Which is two points (eternity) away.

>>529560951
It's also the best tool for getting a res off. Bubble + peril block is nigh impenetrable.

>>529560951
>>529561116
>only defensive layer psyker has for bosses
>best tool for getting a res off
Stamina +5 says "hello"

>>529561116
He already said he makes a build for sedition
A shame it was removed from the game.

>>529560894
>>529559894
I want a thing but I refuse to accept it because someone might like it in ways that I don't.

>>529559058
Fair. I just need confidence in my building ability.

This should have been a Zealot talent.

>>529561284
Correct. Fuck you.

>>529561242
And inb4
>NOOOO YOU CAN'T HAVE AN ANSWER TO A PROBLEM

>>529558829
why dont we play havocs with each other from here

>>529561690
Stop pretending to be Korean.

Wow they really did screw up the gore system didn't they? I'm cutting people in half with thrusts from duelling swords.

>>529561690
Because this is the most malicelet place on the internets

>>529561380
Be retarded. Thinking makes you gay.
Learning by failing is superior.

>>529561861
every cultist has a nurgling in them and if you stab it they explode

>>529561861
Like an anon posted earlier, why am I cutting enemies in half with a revolver headshot

Would you rather Fatshark keep exclusively human operatives or add sanctioned xeno operatives? I think a Tau operative would be cool.

>>529561861
Yeah it's always funny to cleave enemies in half with my rashad axe overhead

>>529562123
I just cut a crusher ogryn in half with a combat knife.

>>529560232
>only like HALF of them are disgusting meth addicts!
>no, I will not acknowledge that player face poll that showed literally everyone is using the only pretty face
>that's what you should expect in 40k!
>meanwhile, in 40k
lol, cope
darktide uses the male model for female cosmetics
you are a tranny if you defend that shit

>>529562363
I'd like to play as 40k xenos and mutants, but I don't think this is the game for it