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>First Card Set: Legends Rise
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>Gacha Leaders: Daria, Albert, Cerberus, Orchis
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this game is gonna be so fucking dead in a couple of sets

>>530002015 (OP)

>>530002130
>started the game off with nu dshift
ye

The meta is complete dogshit

Do you keep Bayle in Forest?

Don't open

>>530002301
if I'm against something like sword and I have a lot of fairy generators yes

https://poal.me/3oog1c
https://poal.me/3oog1c
https://poal.me/3oog1c

I fixed the poll from last thread and added forest because the anon forgot Forest. Now we can properly get an idea of who plays what without an entire craft being missing.

>>530002258
By Shadowverse 1 standards right now we have the healthiest and most fair meta we can possibly have.
If you think it's dogshit now oh boy, bettee strap on the seatbelt

>>530002130
It's already on a sharp decline sadly.

>>530002378
I can finally pick my own craft

anyone else laggy as fuck for no reason

>play rune
>stuck in topaz
>can't figure out anymore the fuck i am doing wrong with this deck

>>530002378
didn't read but sex with sexka

>>530002568
Pay up

>>530002378
It'll be interesting to see if people will change the decks they main after the second card set drops. If there's more dirt support I'm swapping to Rune.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

STOP HEALING

WHY THE FUCK DOES PORTAL GET EVERYTHING

>>530002301
Yes.

>>530002726
I play forest but if aggro abyss becomes viable I will main that while playing forest on the side

>>530002568
Are you playing a budget deck? The best rune decks run a lot of leggos

>>530002761
I find Rune's healing much more annoying because Portal's healing is attached to big bodies while rune can just plop down a bunch of 0-cost followers then sagelight twice to heal for 8-12

>>530002726
the rng gods will decide my next main...

>>530002568
Draw half of your deck, then play AG t4-t6, then Kuon, then Satan into dclimb into win if you somehow haven't won with Kuon

>>530002795
I don't have all the 10 legos used in it

>>530002761
Just had a game where I had to sit through Sylvia and 2 Olivias and still won because they never drew Olivia. Honestly I probably would've won sooner if they had played Olivia.

>>530002726
If there's puppets support I'll play Portal
If there's bats/vampy I'll swap to Abyss
If neither of the above are true then it'll likely be me swapping to Sword

>playing against my first diamond as sapphire
>think im going to rank up soon
>win
>get raped by 3 highroll rune in a row

>>530003023
>I had to sit through Sylvia and 2 Olivias

>still won because they never drew Olivia
>I probably would've won sooner if they had played Olivia

Is it worth going back and getting any classes to level 100 in the first game other than forest for the superior fairy?

>>530003096
Never drew Orchis. Tired of all of these O bitches.

I want to see Eudie's O-face

>>530002726
I'm picking whatever available deck doesn't result in a T10+ evolve-less slugfest based on top decks

kyWq7Kd
Consider using my code if, by some chance, you haven't used any yet

>>530002878
The worst is when they're at lethal range and you survive their waves of threats only for them to play dclimb, clear your board and heal up for 8.

>>530003242
Yeah, honestly fuck rune. Easily the most frustrating deck to go against.

>>530003065
same but continuing with forest

i deserved that top deck

>>530003406
anything that fucks rune over is based

Still can’t beat my mom I’ve tried every deck but Forest is Op

>>530003406
KING...

>>530003515
>Still can’t beat my mom
Uhhhh....

>>530002726
I'll play dirt if Dirtrune gets more support, and Abyss if Abyss gets more good cards that actually use necromancy or Bloodcraft-esque stuff.

I will never play Portal because Portal is the developers' pet and deserves to be bullied.

>>530003406
Kill Rune

>>530002726
all of dirts gold cards are crazy if they good some more support i can see them being really annoying

its over

you now remember shadowverse

When can we stop pretending that portal is good?

what killed the hype?

>>530004512
we're free

isnt it crazy that my entire experience of the game is determined on the first cards i open

Did anyone bother to do the Android emulator, reroll accounts until you get 100 packs from park chest strat?

Is there any hope the next set will save Haven?

How powerful would a legendary portal 5 drop be to be a better choice than Alouette?

>>530004571
The gacha bandwagoners have mostly jumped ship and that's a good thing.

>>530004591
I had planned on playing Rune cause of my SV1 experience and I pulled zero (0) (zilch) (nada) (nil) rune legendaries

>>530004668
4/4 that summons a beta without using an evo point :^)

i realized im a runetroon i just like casting a billion spells

Bros, what's a fun aggro Abyss deck? I suck at deckbuilding and want to be pointed in the right direction. I have 2x Aragavy, but no Medusa and no Cerb. Don't want to use vials to make them until after seeing what's in the next set.

>>530004628
You could spend weeks rerolling and never get that 100 packs, the chances are apparently incredibly slim

Choose: Summon an Anne, Belle of Mysteria or Grea the Dragonborn.
Enhance (5): Summon both instead. Evolve them.

Enhance (8): Give Storm to all allied Mysteria followers.

wtf release this card next set pls pls pls

>>530004513
I just played it actually! It was very fun
Daily ranked matches were 3 rune 1 sword and 1 portal mirror
I won all but the sword match because that barrier bitch that restores play points is so good. It's crazy how you can be in control whole game and then this bitch drops, then the other that spams 3 ward knights super evo and you can't clear them all albert for the finish

>>530004513
sexo

>>530004628
https://x.com/musasingogogo/status/1938996006177382454
It is obscenely unlikely. This person opened 3600 chests and didn't get it once.

>>530004681
How is losing players a good thing? Threads are slow as fuck, lobby is empty and ranked takes longer to find people 3 weeks into game launch

>>530004783
Aggro abyss is shit as well. Wait until next set

What card balances do you think are necessary? No bias

>>530005139
I didn't ask for a good deck, I asked for a fun one

SV oldstinkies know the feeling of a dead thread, this isn't dead.

I've been trying to keep track of opponent hand, but it doesn't make sense. It seems like the cards played from hand is shown at random? Like I can see the puppet being added to the left side but when played it's not the same card.
Can anyone confirm this?

>>530004628
>>530005013
Kimura-san of course knows which are the reroll accounts and removes that item from their chest pool to waste their time.

>>530005304
I saw old threads here and on /vmg/. It was pure misery and despair

is litterbox down?

>>530005356
>It seems like the cards played from hand is shown at random?
yes always. so it's never possible to track spellboost number

>>530005007
>I won all but the sword match because that barrier bitch that restores play points is so good. It's crazy how you can be in control whole game and then this bitch drops, then the other that spams 3 ward knights super evo and you can't clear them all albert for the finish
just means you didn't have orchis for it brother that's rough

I missed otk lethal
roach is too hard

>topazGOD gaming
>enemy played orchis and had lethal
>i emote, he emotes
>he doesn't kill me
>and he just misplays the rest of the match
?????? do people get off to knowing the could beat you but lose?

Greetings, friends.
Today I present you a match where I had a successful hand read.
I noticed the awkward way the opponent went about dealing with my Alouette/Ward play so threw down a gambit that they had no Orchis in hand and thus Utilized Olivia to create an unbreakable board.
It paid off most satisfactorily.
https://litter.catbox.moe/2chtrtip1jgscvg3.mp4

Please use my invite code if you are able.
yxd7ZuJ

>>530005559
I've never gotten an actual 20 dmg OTK

>>530005559
Same, I regret spending my vials into forest. Next expansion I'm just gonna hit the face (maybe)

>>530005549
True, not drawing Orchis is the biggest skill issue. Also I forget that bane goes through ward since other games don't do that.

blud is usable guys....

Weekend tournament today, what are we bringing

>>530005869
forest so I can kill myself

>>530005869
forest!

>>530005869
roach

>>530005869
Waiting until Sunday and playing Haven

>>530005869
3 copies of aria's exposed tummy

>>530005869
forest

>>530005894
>>530005903
>>530005918
Everyone is a forest player here...

>>530005869
Face Dragon so I can play soccer while others spend an hour playing their matches

>>530005626
>portal
doesn't count

tourney in how many hours?

>>530006116
>handreading doesn't count
silly anon

>>530005869
roping with stall heaven to keep people hostage

>>530006146
6

>>530005252
Off the top of my stupid head:
>Portal
Nerf Orthis' main body down to 3/3
Nerf the "at end of turn" 5pp artifact effects of Portal down from 3 to 2
>Rune
Nerf DClimb to a base cost of 20pp before spellboost
Nerf Anne/Grea body down to 3/3, only spellboost 2 times, no 3 damage on evo
Nerf Kuon's summoned Divine Shikigami to spellboost hand 2 times instead of 3
Nerf Sagelight Teachings heal to 3 points, and make it require Earth Rite (2)
>Sword
Nerf Luminous Magus' summons to 2 knights instead of 3
Nerf Amalia's summons to 3 knights instead of 4

>>530005869
control blood

if anyone cares
i went 10-13 getting my chests today

Three days of chest events left

I have gotten all 5 chests every day. My guild better thank me for the GRP contribution

>>530005761
Post dick

>>530005869
face dragon because i lost all cognitive function after getting 50 wins on sword

>>530005252
At worst they nerf like 2-3 cards tops and it's small nerfs like +1 pp or -1/-1
Anons begging for entire crafts to have all their cards gutted are in for a rude awakening

>>530005869
The same bug everyone else in this general apparently plays now.

NYOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>530005869
I now have confidence in my Haven deck.

>>530005869
I queue tomorrow
Rune
Because my other deck is Face Dragon and i am guarantee to see Swords and Portals

>>530006393
https://youtu.be/FNLs1cloTIg
Im running this guys deck

>>530006335
1-7 sword
2-1 rune
1-2 portal
1-2 abyss
2-0 dragon
2-0 haven
1-1 forest

fuck sword

>>530005869
>>530004683
I hate her, but I want to have sex with her

>>530005869
I brought face dragon last week and went 1-3 because the first 3 matches were against the swords instead of the 8 people playing rune. I only got a win because the last person quit the lobby and I faced nobody.

So I'm roaching.

I need to know, when you go in a winstreak, the craft that you lose to, do you immediately get matched with another of the same craft as well?

>>530006669
sword rapes roach though

>>530006278
The artifact itself is not a problem, Alouette bringing a real copy of it is.
Nerfing base DClimb cost does literally nothing, it needs to have a minimum cost so you can't use it again right after using one.
Amalia need to have the Ward effect tied to Evo, her being able to shit out literally every single one of her effects without it is crazy.

>>530006656

>>530006576
Hey, thanks, bro. Maybe with this I can
>Satan
Nevermind, fuck that. Satan's a cop-out.

Nice got a Legendary from the park chest.
Is Garyu good?

>>530006278
>Nerf DClimb
>Nerf Anne/Grea
>Nerf Kuon
>Nerf Sagelight
holy shit. I should make rune deck asap and get full refund from my legos

>>530006937
no

>>530006937
Yes he's good, now play dragoncraft

I still have no idea how to beat sword in a fair matchup

>>530007104
aw....
why not?

>>530006607
what did you play

>>530006937
worst 8pp leggo in the game

>>530006937
He's the worst of the big late game legendaries. He might be decent if ramp gets better shit next expansion.

>>530006937
Worse Kuon for Dragon.
Literally the only midgame tempo controller you have if you're playing Ramp Dragon though.

>>530007126
draw glade or you lose

>>530007126
Me neither roach bro. I played fairy beat down and prayed that he didn't have the 8 drop

>>530007145
roach

>>530006937
He's better than Amalia

>>530007113

>>530007126
keep lily and glade

>>530007190
I drew 3 glades and still lose

>>530007353
skill issue

>>530007405
Damn D:

>>530007126
When I get to late game I'll let the swordbab keep his followers on board and bug alert the roach back to hand when I soften him up, so he gets semi-board locked.

He'll only be able to summon like 2 ward followers. Its tricky but that's how I'm playing around Amalia and Amelia/Magus late game that basically wins the game for them.

Why is Sword's win rate so high for such a simple predictable deck?

>try forest demote down to ruby
>not even clear what I could have done differently against portal.

>>530007126
Its already an impossible fight. You need to high roll and sword need to brick hard

>>530006937
In Aggro? No. In Ramp? He's a 3 of because simply there's no other good endgame cards than him. He is bad when trading a full board, he can't clear a full board, he can't clear Kuon for example, dragons can't even clear blaze destroyers. Orchis is also very hard to clear.

He shines when clearing small boards. You don't use him to stabilize mid game, you use him after clearing the enemy board with Burnite or Twilight. The barrier dragon is incredibly sticky when you can keep the effect. And the 5 damage he does is usually enough to get the enemy in range of Genesis along with another Garyu or a Forte.

>>530007524
you can predict kuon dclimb kuon but can you stop it?

>>530006443
>small nerfs
>like +1 pp or -1/-1
delaying a card an entire turn or giving you less options after you play it would be a very significant nerf no?
a 6 cost alouette would eat infinite shit since it folds to jeno or medusa immediately and if sword goes 2nd portal would need to fuck over their lategame by raw dropping a gamma to counter a raw oogabooga magus drop and they would straight up fold to zirconia
portal would also be open to eating shit to albert if orchis was a 9 cost
1 less cost on some abyss minions wouldnt be so bad especially since they tend to obliterate your face when you play them which is very dangerous against decks like forest and sword and if portal isnt favored against sword then sword would start multiplying like cancer

>>530007524
because it has the best 2 drop, the best 4 drop, the best 5 drop, the best 6 drop, the best 8 drop, and the best 9 drop in the game

>>530007598
Yes, you drop wards.

WIGGLE WITH YOUR WINGS
TWINKLE WITH YOUR TOES

>Sword is unusable in top level play
>Thread still complains about it
Conclusion: Sword farms shitters in low elo

>>530007741
But im a master diamond...

>>530007650
>0 cost 3/3 rush enters the room

>>530007741
sword has the most winstreaks in master diamond

the base forest deck

>>530007650
then they just need to play something first, drop 7 kuon clear your ward with 2 shikigami, then dclimb into 10 kuon otk

>>530007598
I dont think even rune player can predict it, its a straight up rng shinenigans

>>530007781
If they're dcliming with Kuon it usually means the OTK setup, 2 wards or a ward higher than 0/6 really screws them over.

>>530007741
Thread complains about it because Sword can farm shitter runes and other decks that can't handle early aggro

i forgot gm 0 was a thing, i thought it started at 1

>530007773
>530007798
Post rank and group or you prove my point.

>>530007741
Its the current t1 no matter how hard swordnigger try to downplay it

>>530007650
lmao

>>530007741
Sword is the most consistent deck in Master Diamond because it rarely bricks and punishes decks that do brick.

Also enchanced Albert should be 10pp

>>530007741
Im AA0 shappire, am i a shitter

Did i fuck up playing DClimb here or somehow i could have still got lethaled?

>>530008126
Yes, you literally need to do your entire climb again to get to Master. That's the RP gap, you're halfway there.

So is there conclusive math that I should be pulling on only one expansion to maximize vial? I'm no f2p but I'm no whale either.

>>530008184
It's over..

>>530008172
you fucked up playing rune

>>530007798
>Sword downplayers when the facts come out

>>530007741
Sword counters face dragon, the most abused by local shitters deck. No wonder they are seething.

havenbros...

>>530007126
Theres no such thing such ad fair matchup for forest againts sword, you're at massive disadvantage no matter what

>>530008172
>everyone blew their evos by turn 10

>>530008205
if you are only interested in 1 or 2 classes, yes

It's that time again

>>530008338
>She only does 3 damage? I can survive th--

>>530008383
>he doesnt evo his 1/1 knight to ram face
ngmi

>>530008383
rune still have advantage vs swords without evos, Sword can't do shit anymore turn 8+ without any evo
Any sort of board to lock out big rune bodies was getting wiliamed so bad with no Super evo Ame

>>530008435
just themis bro

>>530006761
no

>>530008574
Just play around it

>>530008574
the only way this happens is if that william got dclimbed shuffled 3 times right?

>>530008435
it's just 3pp do nothing bro

>>530002015 (OP)
>>530002212
I am still SEETHING that KMR didn't migrate my "Luna's Doll" sleeves and profile icon to Shadowba 2.

>>530008574
>40/40 runeblade beaten by an even bigger nuke

ALOUETTE IS MY WIFE

>>530008745
honestly kino

im done with wb for now, throwback is so much better
i did my dailies in solo mode, waiting for set 2

>>530008791
your wife is as flat as a board

>>530008723
keep seething pedophile

>>530008791
Thats a boy

I like lolis
which craft is for me

If stormy blast starts at -2 and William divided his spellboost by 3 Rune wouldn't be that bad to deal with.

>>530008745
>ward shield
That is NOT a runeblade

GIVE ME VAMPIRE SHOTAS AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

someone share a forest pro stream.
I don't feel like I'm doing anything wrong but it feels like sword/portal always beat me.
heck everything feels like it can beat me if my draws feel sub par.

>>530008907
shadow or blood

>>530008907
all of them

>>530008435
>Played Jeanne on Kuon turn and spellboosted the hand 6 times not expecting anything would happen.
Literal skill issue.
What were you doing up until T8 with the cards in your hand?
Clearing a golem with Ronavero?
Throwing cum chalice on Grea?
Rune can only start doing damage from hand on T7 for an entire 4 damage. Where are your clears as T8 haven in the 11 cards you've drawn since the game began?

When Dragon becomes T1 next expansion you're not allowed to complain about it.

>>530008980
>heck everything feels like it can beat me if my draws feel sub par
what 0 roaches turn 8 does to a man
what 3 roaches turn 1 does to a man

>>530009059
ramp is a cheating nigger mechanic on the same level as spellboost when it gets too much support so I will regardless

>>530009059
as long as they stop playing otohime face dragon

>>530008879
>>530008832
Sex

Reynad isn’t playing this game anytime soon.

>>530009090
Honey it's time for your turn 7 godwood staff into staff drawing another staff into turn 8 godwood staff

>>530008980
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lF-ehnrQyEQ
Here's two good players running 20 games of forest vs sword.

>>530008980
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETG-9y2RWQ4

>>530008574
Just don't let him Spellbost William bro

>>530009181
Glade drawing two godwood staffs on turn 5 when you already put one down turn 3, just to shit up your 9 card hand.

PLEASE understand

yeah I think I'm done with this game

>>530007126
the top ranked swordgod while going second in 10 games lost 1-9 against Roach in a scrim against another top rank forestfag, then lost again 1-9 going second against the top rank artifactfag
/svg/ is simply filled with d-ranks that can only pilot their decks on curve so their meta takes are abhorrent

>>530009059
It won't be anywhere near T1 unless they change dragon sign. Skipping turn 3 is so bad.

>>530009303
make a face dragon player kill themselves in these 5 simple steps

>>530008907
Every craft has a whole lot of lolis and underage girls. I think the crafts with the least are probably sword, haven and rune. Abyss and Portal would definitely have the most.

All the trannies and normalfags that moved to this from Hearthstone or whatever gay garbage they played before are in for a very rude awakening because KMR doesn't give a shit about those subhumans.

It's rough out here

>>530009303
wait what? rune plays olivia now? for what purpose???

>>530008574
Balance btw

>>530008980
https://www.openrec.tv/live/2p8vv43038y

>>530009303
What's wrong? A little too healthy for you?

>>530009325
Rune skips turn 3 all the time with their pot of greeds and that isn't an issue

>>530008849
Has anyone ever explained why being a pedophile is a bad thing ever in these threads?

>another Eudie pee pic has shown up
Senpai...

>>530008962

There will not be nerfs for next expansion.

>source?
I didn't make it up

>>530005626
sex with dreizehn

>>530009483
Rune can skip turn 3 because they get a full board clear the moment Grea comes out.

I’m a hearthstone refugee and the anime weeb shit definitely is the worst aspect of this game.

>>530005869
Puppet Portal since it's my only complete deck. Unless I somehow get more legendaries for Abyss, Rune, or Artifact Portal.

>>530005869
Stall abyss.

>>530009631
cool go back

>>530008574
unc thought he ate with that 40/40

>>530006576
>>530006936
>Satan
Reminds me of the olden days where Control Blood would lock you into a staring contest and you'd wonder if they're going to deck out or drop Satan at the last moment

>Pick up anime card game
>wtf why is it anime I hate it

Thoughts on new rune card?

Ginsetsu coming back next expansion means I will switch to Abysscraft

>>530005869
>a lot of forestchud
It make sense now, its not that sword is OP, theres too much fairyshitters we counter

what beats sword?

>>530009631
>he doesnt think an old ass man screaming about kungfu while throwing an endless onslaught of small fish women at your face isnt peak

>>530009750
it's a magic illusionist when evolved

>>530009778
Portal beats them really easily.

>>530009750
Cute

>>530009881
how? unless you're in topaz it's not happening

>>530009749
You'd be surprised how often you see this exact genre of post in /dng/

>>530009778
Forest if you know how to play it.

why is sapphire so fucking annoying god damn
tempted to just constantly quit so i can go back to topaz holy shit

>>530009750
how does he know

>>530010016
>>530009908

>>530010016
it says on the announcement that the follower will also be implemented in WB
no guarantee that they'll keep the Shadoba Evolve version effects intact

>>530009990
Losing isn't fun yeah. That's why people sandbag to play against worse players for those easy winstreaks

>>530009967
/svg/ used to get a lot of the dubcucks that vehemently hated anime and thought themselves better than anime watchers because they played with EN voices
They all quit pretty quickly honestly

>>530005356
That was a change they made pretty early. When the first game originally came out doing what you tried worked but they didn't want playing optimally to include having your eyes glued to your opponent's hand during their turn all the time.

>>530009960
the jap just had a pro vs pro, portal vs sword match, portal win 13-7 even with several misplays

>>530005869
Sword bec I don't feel like using my brain this weekend

Kagebrciksu is getting buff

>>530010135
There are no subs in this game unlike anime. How the fuck are you supposed to understand what your cards and leaders are saying?

>>530010287
idk by knowing the language?

>>530009960
the top sword autist and portal autist, who were also sv1 pros, did a 20 game scrim where they each go second for 10 games
sword only won one game during the 10 games it went second hence the 9-1
you should watch it if you actually care about the match-up
https://www.youtube.com/live/AUCctLUQEg0

>>530010179
13-7 with literal pro piloting doesn't sound like "beating easily" retard

What's the pattern for the battle pass leaders? Do they actually give out cute girls on it or is it always undesirable dudes

>>530007126
you ditch twinkletoes and aria for more carbuncles and the 4pp 3dmg to 3 random followers on combo

>>530010496
Is Nio a dude?

>>530010496
it's usually the dudes nobody would get otherwise

>>530007126
>board spam the fuck out of them
>buff your board
>pray that they dont have apollo

>>530010268
Big if true

>>530010107

I don't even mind losing, it's just that stupid event requires winning. Rather just demote myself so I can do dailies faster. I play FGO on the side and somehow this game respects your time even less than FGO.

>>530010652
>>530010651
It's over. I don't wanna whale for cute girls...

>>530010398
you're fighting against drooling retards piloting sword in the ladder so why does it matter unless you're also one

>>530010496
usually story related leaders so we're probably getting the flaming homo robot
but they've added some weird picks since then

>>530010764
UOOHHHH ANISAGE

>>530010764
wait there's a castel leader wtf
i've never seen her

>>530010496
we know the next two one right? the next is the dragon girl and the one after is a guy, idk who tho

>>530010764
>terra is battlepass
how to know that you are really the unlove sibling

>>530010764
>just have to wait until EoS for them to add cute girls to the BP
I wasn't expecting much but that's something else

how long till we get leader related cards

>>530008574
>42 spellboosts

>>530010861
Dragon girl? You mean Filene? She's 100% going to be gacha, way too popular for a craft with two male leaders

>>530010904
the earliest possible time is after they have release all of their stories

>>530010749
drooling retards on the ladder always draw perfectly though

Believe in your cards

>>530010092
It literally can't be the same because Assail doesn't exist here (the digital game doesn't have tapped and untapped). The damage and revival will probably be there though

>>530010764
I feel like that had both child Itsurugi and adult Itsurugi, but I might be hallucinating that

>Only draw one of my 3 Razory Claws vs Rune
>Cant even use Mino as fodder for Soul Predation to get them because lmao enhance
>Die
I'm actually just sick of trying to make Abyss work. I think I'm just going to switch to Artifact Portal or something.

Next set is going to have Haven, Forest and Dragon leaders since the first set had Sword, Portal, Rune and Abyss leaders.

>>530011053
who knows
Evolve version of Alouette only summons a drain rush artifact and doesn't even have evolve
her effect could be massively different in WB

>>530010764
We need that spooky robot last boss from Drei's story instead! He was cool

>>530011038
bro, sword not trading the knight into phil before magus is criminal

how do play blood

>>530011206
just kill yourself

>>530011206
Don't

>play in diamond
>sword sword sword sword sword sword
>the odd portal/rune here and there
the sword agenda is real

Holy fuck, why am I facing almost exclusively portalniggers today?

>>530008574
literally halve spellboost NOW

>>530011206
Remove anything with a cost above 6, go face.

How do I fix it? It's basically face harassment and survival until Falcon/Griffon.

>next set we will probably get the rest of the gladiator
>so wilbert is coming back
>we will probably also get more bahamut card
>so elana is coming back
ward/heal haven sounds fun to fight into

>rerolled for Cerb
>haven't played a single game of Abyss yet
Now that's time well wasted

I have been playing the game for over a week now on both PC and mobile. I am not F2P as I paid $200 for my first deck. Initially, the economy seems to be very bad (500 gold pack price, lower vial from liquefying silvers, and, critically, no liquefy first 3 copies). I thought it would sucks so bad as a F2P player or a low-spender. One week ahead, I changed my mind. The economy is fine and I can enjoy many good decks. In my current opinion, the only thing that need change is the no liquefy first 3 copies rule.

I am not the luckiest player (no 100 packs key jackpot) and neither I do any reroll. Just straight up normal player that buys all crystal package, plus battle pass. Currently, I have 2 top tier, pretty much fully upgraded decks (puppet portalcraft and artifact portalcraft, 3 if you include hybrid). I also have enough vials from extra cards to upgrade my half-baked decks into good viability (ramp dragon, midrange sword, aggro abyss). The only classes where I don't have enough resources to even make half-baked decks are runecraft and havencraft, in which both have very expensive top tier decks (I am absolutely fine with this, F2P players and low-spenders aren't supposed to have everything). Finally, I have around 7000 gold that I save for next expansion (that is still growing everyday) as I am satisfied enough with my current collection.

So far so good. I am having a blast with this game and I have variety of viable decks. So, what happens that suddenly change my mind and my perspective on the economy? It turns out that the economy is REALLY supported by the freebies that Cygames give (Daily packs, park keys, events, events, events (many of them), bonus packs from here and there, and recently, 3 free legendary packs). So, as long as Cygames keep pumping up these freebies, I think the economy is going to be fine.

As much as I hate the no liquefy first 3 copies rule (and expensive cosmetics lol), I can't give the game negative review anymore.

Honestly I’m just having a lot of fun with this game and wanted to post something positive about it after seeing all the negative reviews.

I’ll freely admit that I’m not a FTP player, but I haven’t spent a ton (only $200) and I’m really enjoying the fast-paced experience and play styles so far.

I’ve never played the original Shadowverse so I’m not doing a direct comparison here. I will say however that compared to the CCGs/TCGs I’m used to (Hearthstone, MTG including physical) the cost here really doesn’t seem out of line from what I’m accustomed to with this genre. Again, not comparing to the original, just the experience of a totally new player.

I was going to wait longer to write a post like this so I could speak with more gameplay experience, but I have a few decks built with reasonable success and am having a ton of fun, and because I almost didn’t start this game because of some of the negative posts I wanted to write from my experience to encourage other new players to try it out!

Good luck out there all!

>>530011038
Why the fuck he just ignored that phil lol

>>530011382
>wilbert back
>ginsetsu back
a bad day for forest players

>>530011313
Nah bro sword is shit and loses to portal and rune easily frfr

>>530011401
>>530011415
What is the point of posting this retarded shit every thread after launch?

>>530011351
>2x salefa
that's your problem right there

Finally my opinion matters.
My favorite craft is honest. My least favorite is dishonest. Simple as.

I actually have not seen a single Abyss player using Diawl after like week 1
He really is THAT disliked

>>530011426
>>530011196
That's just the average sword downplayer

>>530011508
Should I up or remove?

>>530007126
I just watch dayan's stream and his solution is concede

runebros do I mill or do nothing at 3 or 4 mana turn?

>>530011401
Pro tip: you want to cycle through at least a dozen copy pastas if you want them to be at least semi effective and edit some pics and words here and there so that filter schizos see it too

>>530011623
Yuuri wins this

>>530011539
He's a big monster that just fucking roars, what did they expect? Nothing they do aside from completely humanizing him or giving him a meme va would change that.

>>530011539
I paid super premium for the BP so I can get rid of him a few days earlier

sword works without Amelia? it's the only thing I don't have...

>>530011539

>>530011560
You should stop playing haven until the next set.

>>530009319
Post it

>>530011534
List?

>>530011686
heavily crippled without the board barrier but you replace her with olivia in the mean time

>>530011206
remove satan and soul predation from your list, you have enough lategame bricks as is, you don't need to brick even harder

>have to answer magus or you lose
>have to answer dogs or you lose
>have to answer invisible cunt valse or you lose
>have to answer jeno or you lose
>have to answer amalia or you giga lose
>have to answer amelia magus or you lose
>lethal range is fucking 12 damage on turn 9 with flexibility if they have you at or below 6
>most of their cards dont even need evo to do their diabolical shit

>>530011623
He's a shitter, real pro can 9-1 sword

>>530008004
>>530007773
>>530007798
Here bro I got you, you need two of them to reply

Abyssbros, the sword matchup seems really tough. Do you tech anything for them?

>>530011791
I only have 3

>>530011560

imo, leave 1, she's really good against something like sword for a 5 board clear on occasion but two in hand is a brick since you're better off doing grail
she MIGHT be really good if we get something like Elana again but we'll have to see

>>530011843
just hope you draw all your Aragay and Medusa bro

>>530011313
Lies there are only portals and runes in diamond

>>530011539
I like Diawl but I don't play Abussy

>How dare these zergs post any threat
>They should be killed for sports

>two games with double Sylvia cheating me out of a win
>two games with rune bricking hard while I punch their face
Balance in all things, I suppose

>>530011313
Ehhhh annegrea ehhhhh orchis ehhhh sword bad

>climb to diamond with sword
>face only portal
>get kicked back to sapphire
That was fun.

>>530011843
It's just a bad matchup.
I have x2 Apollo teched in for sword and face dragon, but usually he's only good really early in the match against a on curve Luminous Mage or if enhanced Guard Dogs get on the board and aren't protected.

>>530011791
and swordniggers have the audacity to ask for buffs to Kagemitsu

>>530011791
it's so fucking tiring
meanwhile the only board the opponent has to answer immediately is medusa
everything else can be shrugged off

>>530011791
>most of their cards dont even need evo to do their diabolical shit
more like most of their cards don't even have evo effects so if they ever fall behind on board they're fucked

>>530011843
i used to tech apollo then i realized apollo makes no fucking difference and took apollo out

>>530011904
what do either do against amalia

VALUE TOWN
I know it's genuinely infuriating to deal with a class that just shits out 3-5 bodies per card.

>>530011539
Nio > Diawl > Cerberus
I actually do like Diawl and think he looks cool but we also know jack shit about him and his emotes are generally indistinct from one another. It doesn't help that playing Abyss is generally torture because the class is full of terrible, over balanced cards.
t.Abyss player

Me?
I played a ton of SV1 and am enjoying SV2
Yes I am a dubkek.

>>530011848
not this shit again
literally everyone runs 3 copies for a good reason

>>530011623
>3 uncleared knights from a previous turn
He literally bricked for the board to even be in that state.

>>530012408
neutral no bonus evo is better from behind than doing 3 to your own face

>>530012360
Because he's almost a liability.

>>530012686
>He's almost on par with a haven card
Bitch shut the fuck up.

>>530012587

nah it's shit

>>530012583
same except didn't play sv1 but played lots of other card games

I have 0 gold saved up for the expansion it’s over for f2p players like me my account is bricked now…

is the chest event bugged? just got my 4th chest but the counter still says 3

>>530011661
That was an insane clutch desu

>>530012795
I don't save up gold because I'm f2p++

>>530011539
I bought urias

>>530012823
I think the first one can be a leftover from the day before.

>>530012621
More like he ran out of resource, this is avg forest vs sword midgame if enemy got that last word 1/2 2x

What’s a good replacement for Olivia in puppet decks?

>>530010135
I just use the dub so I know what my cards are saying. I didn't realize some of them had certain interactions until I did so it's worth it to me unless they somehow give subtitles for it.

>>530012823
If you had one available yesterday but didn't claim it it carries over to the next day.

>In the first week the threads full with excitement and discussion about cards and deck building
>Now the thread fill with doomposting and complaining about specific class.

What went wrong....?

>>530012934
idk add whatever the fuck you like ie lewdie or that 4/4 ward mech

>>530012934
Sylvia is Olivia Ultra Pro Max

>530011815
>Giving retards (you)s
I'm good.

>right click by accident
>INSTANTLY USE AN EVO POINT

>>530013090
We returned to our natural state.

>>530010287
I don't really need to know

>>530012940
it's still funny that the explanation for the SuperEvo ping is that it's the dead follower getting smacked into their leader

>>530013145
>right click on purpose
>INSTANTLY USE AN EVO POINT
based qol

>lobby tournament
>same emblem

I miss the old days of Shadowverse when no one was net decking it was all organic decks…

it keeps going up...

>>530012729
And Haven cards are designed with Haven play patterns in mind. He is nowhere remotely close in the comparison you're trying to make. He costs way less than Lapis, sure, but he requires a more limited resource to gain Storm while Lapis just gets it. She's a finisher that provides inevitability in your grind game while Kagemitsu ends up clogging your board at times and is anti-synergy with some of Sword's most valuable cards. Luminous Magus hates him, Amelia hates him, and Albert is a far better Storm piece that would rather get your s.evo.
You don't know what you're talking about if you want to draw that comparison without considering the context within the craft it belongs to.
Sword has no problem dropping body after body. Kagemitsu coming back isn't nearly as valuable as your other options and I'd rather have a copy of Indomitable Fighter in my hand most of the time than a Kagemitsu. If I'm using a s.evo to give him Storm, then my opponent really fucked up or I'm scraping the bottom of the barrel for things to spend it on.

>>530013303
Are you trying to say that those path to purgatory bullshit decks are organics...?

>>530013090
Reality

>>530013303
People who cplain about netdecking are retarded.

>>530013090
People hot fed up with facing the same broken class in 60+% of their games.

>>530013256
what happens if you have both types of evo available

>>530013090
People doesnt like the idea of fighting same shit that kick their ass and doesnt like the idea that they were carried by their class rather than their own skills(especially rune and sword ITT)

Which card or leader are you the most sexually attracted to?

>>530013303
Anon, the card pool is crazy limited right now and the meta has shifted several times. People are going to test out and come to consensus on ratios over time. Netdecking is largely pointless right now because people will just collectively come to an understanding as they tech one way or another in accordance with what they play against and with. I don't even think a "best deck" has been found yet because no one has enough reps in the game. People have spent most of their time laddering, which creates an inherent bias towards decks that ladder well. You can only go up, so decks that go up quickly and easily are favored, but that doesn't make them the strongest decks.
Decks are still largely organic anyways as people adjust their shit across games.

>>530013303
You could netdeck from gamewith on day 1 in 2016. I remember Merlin being at the top top their reroll tier list, maybe Cerberus too.

desu dollfuckers are more honest than swordfags

>>530013685
this one
I want to rape her while her stuffed animal watches

>>530010372
>>530009189
does hearthstone have autists like this

Sucks that replays don't save the emotes from the match

The bazaar has had several expansions

>>530013876
Fuckk off reynad, i aint playing your nftcrap

>>530013685
Doggo no contest

>>530013595
popup where you can select either

>>530013785
hearthstone is big in china so probably, though afaik they have tournament support because of blizzard digging its own grave in the past several years

>>530009189
thanks! im learning

This game is too laggy on my iPhone. If they don’t optimize it properly I’ll go back to racing horse girls.

>>530013685
Forte, Galmieux, Cerb and Ralmia in that order.

>>530014145
>iPhone
lol

>>530014119
they don't have*, oops

>>530013685
Nio

>your constant whining won't get orchis nerfed
>but this will

>>530014276
>nooo I can’t auto win with aggro sword slop

>>530013770
Not on his watch

>>530014145
works great on my 16 pro

>>530014276
The puppets shouldn't get storm. It's as if Jannu did 6 face damage as well.

didn't sword go like 1-9 against portal in a certified sweatlord showdown?

>>530013685

>>530014145
works great on my poco

>>530014512
>one autist that gets paid to play can win that means everyone can

>>530014512
1-9 while going 2nd. 6-4 while going first

When's the lobby tourney?

>>530014617
Stop downplaying portalniggers

Even that avatarfag who can't stop posting anime seems to be gone now.

>>530014645
forest had similar metrics in the sweatoff
/svg/ is way off the mark when they said 2nd was OP

>>530014760
and thank god for that

>>530014512
does portal lose to anything?

>>530013685
Orchis.

>>530014509
technically she can!

>>530014806
bricking, thats it

>Enemy is dragon
>Its aggro
>Actually its ramp
>Its aggro afterall
What is up with dragonbabs

>>530014806
abyss

>>530014716
hold on bro let me play this kusoge 12 hours a day then I'll be able to win easily

>>530014654
have you tried looking it up in game?

>>530014617
It's an autist playing against another autist sis, which means you should be able to do the same against people at your skill level

>>530014864
I've been seeing this two.
SOme sort of weird hybrid.

>>530014358
he can watch too

>>530014873
matchup being roughly 50-50 is not losing

>okay time to get 5x wins with haven and sword
>look at legendaries
maybe next expansion

>>530014617
How do you outplay jeno jeno amelia jeno amelia amalia alberto?

>>530014617
you can easily do the same if you put 2x cannon into your deck

>>530013145
You can turn evolve confirmation on, then use right click to evolve without it fucking you up. I do that

>>530014950
i can guarantee you can get 5 wins with sword just by spamming some squirrels and catching people offguard

>rank up to diamond
>can't survive past t5 anymore
It's so fucking bullshit, please tell me I'm not alone in this.

>>530014950
This post gave me PTSD from when the daily missions were like that in SV1.

>>530013685
Maybe this smug little slut

>>530014276
>swordbab complaining about Orchis
Cant make this up

>>530014950
you have 10 years to complete that
dont worry

>>530014950
5 haven wins is viable with those

>>530014950
haven is doable, rodeo is so ass you need 0 copies. you can cobble together storm amulet haven with 2 jeanne and salefa.

>>530015059
forest eats your lunch bro

>>530014894
I have no idea if that's in my timezone or not.

>>530015059
i meant, do you really expect them to play slow againts rune ?

>>530014956
bullet bullet doomwright bullet ralmia ralmia ralmia gundam

Alouette my boy wife

>>530015193
it is

another thing I dont miss about hearthstone is the buggy ass client

>>530011539
They did it on purpose.
Dunno why KMR has such a bone to pick with Abyss players but the malevolent intent has been transmitted clearly.

>>530015103
>8pp card that spawns 2/2 tokens is OP
>8pp card that summons 3 8-stat bodies, clear board, immediately heals and damages enemy face is completely fine
portalkeks honestly think they are good at the game while playing the most blatantly broken shit

>>530014864
Some are experimenting with putting Dragonsign into the deck as a way to shit out Forte or shark faster.
Tried it, it just makes your early game way worse while giving you a little bit leeway on midgame. You're still dead on late game.

>>530008574
What exactly am I supposed to do when they when it's less 1 giga will, and more 2-3 erasing any attempt I have to set up a board? I can sometimes avoid tall followers getting sniped wiped out by it, but they can at worst SMASH will into something, and spell-boost their hand further. Now they have a pretty huge body that I need to deal with, or I will lose the game if I can't end it right there.
Does he really need to get 1 damage per spell boost? After just 1 Anne and Grea and a few spellbosots from early game spells, he can wipe out nearly any board. Does he really need pretty good stats on top of his effect? The spellboost evo effect as a backup plan?
He's not their most OP card or anything, and ideally you don't need him at all, but he's pretty stupidly good to just further shut down anything but raw face smashing storm .

no fucking way youre crying about lalmia

>>530015272
Are you dumb or something

Why is anybody playing artifacts? Compared to puppets it feels unwinnable vs sword. By the time you can even start clearing his board you’re already half dead.

>>530014509
>it's okay sword and dragon have fuck load of storm card but puppet only having 1 card getting storm is no no.
>it's okay forest can have magic face deleter but puppet cannot.

>>530015381
>losing vs sword as AF portal
Bro…

>>530015195
No, but I expect to get a single fucking card I can play to even try and counteract their aggro. The opponents just played by themselves there while I passed.

>>530015381
it's the exact opposite, artifacts (with 3x puppeteer 3x orchis) destorys sword starting in the midgame. puppets cant keep up, and is also fully reliant on keeping 2-3 evos for turns 8 9 10 to actually kill

>>530015381
If you can't win playing robot portal against sword the issue is probably on your end...

>>530015501
So I hardmull for puppeteer then? Man I guess I’m just bad, dropped down to Ruby trying out this deck

>>530011843
Abyss is honest, and unfortunately KMR made this first set a dishonest one.

so is japan going to get tsunami'd today for cy crimes?

>>530015580
just put in cannon and autowin

>>530015580
Nigger it's 9:1 if you're P1, and 6:4 if you misplay three games in a row as P2, it's not rng, you're just literally that bad.

>>530015490
Maybe learn how to make a move that isn't do nothing for 4 turns until it's time for Grea you whiny fucking faggot

>>530015620
why today?

>>530014864
The life of the dragon is riddled by conflict

>>530015668
>manga comic published in 1999 has intensified public anxiety. Japanese artist Ryo Tatsuki’s manga The Future I Saw predicts a catastrophic earthquake and tsunami on July 5, 2025, said to be three times worse than the 2011 disaster. Despite repeated expert and government denials, the prediction has gone viral, fueling fear across Japan and East Asia

>>530015749
Get out Kiryu.

>>530015580
I play both and the only way for sword to win against arti portal (no bricking) is hiding an evolve valse/jeno/amaria behind multiple ward and hope not to eat a bullet/sylvia, just make 2 gamma for your free win

I just beat the last two portalbabs with my sword deck. I guess sapphire portalfags are equivalent to topaz of the other crafts.

>>530015817
>just make 2 gamma
lol
that loses to a singular amalia and means you wont have enough for gundam

>>530015817
Nah the way for Sword to win is to out grind. If you can survive the mech and 2 SEP..

Give me a single reason why your Gem rating against people who have played the game literally 10% as much as the people in Master should carry the same weight.

Nightmare mode: Don't rely on ad hominem

Is Godwood Staff on turn 3 the right play against non-aggro (so everyone besides face dragon)?

>>530015950
Why are you trying to argue with d rank morons?

>>530015902
holy shit! two of them?? that's crazy bro

>>530015580
Puppeteer is a good tempo control early, you also don't need to keep the puppet since Orchis isn't your sole wincon.
You really want to hard mulligan for Alouette though. If the sword is actually good they will count the number of your mats and after you have 2 on hand they won't throw Magus on T5 since they will just be cleared by Aloutte + Gamma. You can use that to pressure early and midgame.

>>530015967
yes, why wouldnt you?

>>530015663
Oh, yes, of course, let me learn how to draw better, you dumb fucking nigger. Half of my games I don't have anne until after t5.

>>530016014
Tempo loss leading to less early game chip damage was what was causing me to hesitate

https://youtu.be/BSdD1Q4bdFc
I've been seeing Legendary Fighter in Puppet, is this a meme

>>530015389
>What is class identity
Sword has like 2 cards with storm. Dragon has always had storm but doesn't have the endless value generation of puppets.
Forest is a combo deck.

>>530015967
Ideally yes, and then hopefully followed by a combo play involving twinkletoes, may, lily or cairn.

>>530015984
stay mad portalchud go jack off to a doll or something

>>530016116
>go jack off to a doll
i will do that later thanks

>>530015938
portal wont drop the mech if they cant lethal, and you cant outgrind ralmia board after you both run out of evolve point

>>530015967
It depends, if you see portal and sword curve on you and you have no follow up you really shouldnt

>>530016116
stop making them sound based

>>530015967
Depends on the matchup, you already have the right idea with face dragon. It's a matter of believing you have the tools in your hand to recover the tempo, or if you need to play proactive and force them to control you instead.
For instance if you're expecting a T5 Alloutte, might as well prep your board. If you're playing Rune, you need to be slapping face as hard as you can before their tools come online.

>>530016103
It's an Enhanced 4pp 5/5, and pure puppet doesn't have anything to play on curve on T4.
No idea whether it will be good though.

>going to sleep
>have to hope I don't oversleep and miss tourney again
I hate this retarded schedule

>>530016036
WAAAAAAHHHHHHH WHY DOESNT DECK THAT AUTOMATICALLY WIN ON TURN 10 ALSO WIN ON TURN 1 ITS NOT FUCKING FAIR I HAD THE CARDS FOR WINNING I SHOULD HAVE WON

>>530015924
yeah the only way to out sevo amaria is bullet/sylvia, delaying gundam doesnt mean much when you clear their board anyway

>>530011038
drooler match

>>530016286
I missed the previous one
Can you join at any point during the tourney hours or am I really going to suck up 6 hours from beginning to end?

>>530015924
>amaria
doomwright 2 gamma + 2pp deal 3

>>530016058
It's a combo deck, you'll be on a tempo loss conserving combo pieces anyway. That doesn't matter.
Best time to drop godwood is on t3 or t5+extra pp when second/t6 with Lily + 1pp. It also depends on the board state/matchup so you can squeeze it in on other turns with experience.

>>530016368
You can unless you try joining near the end and the lobby doesn't fill up in time.

i've been out the whole week. what the fuck happened to meta discourse

are people seriously playing puppets over artifact now? has sword replaced forest in top 3 or something?

>>530011791
Are the dogs really that good? I've been running 2 copies of that chick that heals you every time an officer comes out, and one copy of that cheapish ward knight that buffs someone up with +1+1.
I've found the slightly stronger early game and healing as pretty useful, but that dog enhance clears shit and threatens obscene damage if they don't somehow clear it.

>>530016036
mathchads wya

>>530016368
You can queue up at any point within the window, but you'll need time for you and the 15 other people to finish their 4 matches.

>>530016446
Cool, thanks for the info anon

Yes I just got matched with 3 Runeniggers in a row.
Yes I lost to all of them.
Yes they all dropped Anne Grea on curve.
Yes they all had Sagelight to heal out of my reach.
Why do you ask?

>>530016468
puppets are worse but completely braindead to play in comparison

BP gender change cards better get us the ability to turn the skeletons and bats into cute skeleton girls and bat girls.

The ghosts are fine.

>>530016468
From what I can tell, some head honcho jap sperged out about artifact and the japs followed suit like the herd animals that they are.

>>530016483
>Are the dogs really that good?
yes
it's a 6pp card with 3pp emergency option

>>530016573
You'll get a regular bat with a cute bow on it

>take out sylvia
>immediately matched with forte and jeno behind amelia'd wards
right, you need sylvia to counter literal cheating, forgot about that

>>530015924
Making 2 Gamma is actually a viable choice if you see them still conserving both of their sevo deep into lategame since that means they gonna Amelia + Magus to try stopping Gundam. Never combine into 2 Gamma unless you have Resurgence or multiple Ralmia though.

>>530016103
If they can't answer it, you can smash face for 5, or otherwise force removal or painful trades to get him off the field.

>>530016468
top ranks are still playing artifacts, they just also run Orchis and the 2pp puppet guy
second best deck is roach, then sword
rune died in high MP but svg is still complaining since it's popular in d rank

>>530016685
SHIT GAME

How many wins can I get in the tournament from this deck?
Full legos rune only gives me 2 wins.

>>530016747
around 0 to 4 wins imo

A deck that wins on turn 10 and builds a near unbreakable wall starting on turn 5 should be getting absolutely assfucked the first 4 turns. Stormy literally destroying any follower played on curve at any turn shouldn't be a thing

>>530016036
>half
Stop fucking lying runenigger. Even if you don't use any draw spell and only mulligan, you have more than 50% chance to ge AG by turn 5. Your dishonest piece of shit of a deck also run 154 different draw cards so you can stop lying now, and admit you are just bad.

>>530016747
>Ramp and Satan
>In aggro
Sorry bro but you are unironically mentally challenged. Rune carrying you to 2 wins is the max you will ever get.

>master sapphire
>it's all forest
what the fuck happened?

>>530016837
winning 2 turns earlier is good, who would've thought

More legendaries should be like Ralmia. She's not a braindead overstatted ungabunga card that you just super evo every time, and you can use her in different ways.

>>530016747
>Full legos rune only gives me 2 wins.
0

>>530016746
>>530016573

>>530016747
>ramp dragon without any high cost units or Forte
ngmi...

>>530016832
It's not an aggro deck though?
>maxxing playpoint
>Keep healing and clear the board until Cocy is ready
>drops cocy, drawing purgatory, 4 last pp for healing
>Nuke orchis and kuon before they are ready

>>530016823
Oh, yes I fucking love that half my deck does nothing but draw because I have infinite pp and can just draw into draw into even more draw until I finally get the few cards that do something.

>>530015785
oh for crying out loud its the sky falling again

>>530016837
Forest is too difficult so none of them can make it to diamond

>>530016573
the only time that ever happened in sv1 i preferred the original art

>>530016679
Guess I'll run him then, at 3? Or can I just run 2 copies?

>>530015785
The Mayans told me we'd be dead in 2012. I trust them more than the Japanese.

Mayans could build pyramids (unlike the Egyptians pretending that the aliens' work is their own). Japan could not.

>skipped turn and board locked him
>lethal'ed him
I fucking love topaz

>530016837
>Larping as a Master despite being B
Cringe

>sis this JAPANESE PRO won that means PORTAL is GOATED and UR BAD

How do I even join tournament?

SwordBABS

>>530002130
The events takes too much time, I'm not taking a second job.

>>530017189
forgot my blog pic

It's funny that all the advanced ai are running shitty decks. Except sword which is literally just running the meta deck and playing exactly the same way you see someone play sword in master

>>530015950
What’s the deck bro I play sword too but I feel like I struggle in the early game

>>530002015 (OP)
bros... why did kmr do it?

>>530015967
Forest plays like aggro early to get in some chip then cedes the board around when evolves come out.
Then you hold fairies in hand and control the board until around turns 6 and 7 where you'll hopefully have a roach.
Then you do a 2 turn death combo where you use the godwood to bounce roach on the first combo turn then end them on the seoncd.
Sometimes you'll need to wait a bit to do the combo if they are threatening lethal that you can't ignore.
THis is why rune is vulnerable to forest as the can only ever surprise you with 4 dmg from hand which often isnt enough so you can safely combo.
Sword on the other hand can threaten a high lethal but that's not until after your combo turns.
The bigger issue with them is getting in chip as they dominate you early and chip is key to being able to kill them before Albert comes online.

>>530017376
it has no top end besides a single albert

>>530017274
I mean if he won against other pros wouldn't that be exactly what that means

>>530017376
>me when I lie

Anyone else having problems with ranked chests spawning? I had 1 spawn at the beginning of this reset and have played 17 games since and none others have appeared. I played through every game, no quitting win or lose. Normally I get this done in an hour or so.

>>530017435
>Then you do a 2 turn death combo where you use the godwood to bounce roach on the first combo turn then end them on the seoncd.
This is what probably gets me. You actually burn your godwood on Turn 6/7 and then single roach kill on the next turn? I'm always trying to preserve the staff until I kill them with a double roach play.

>>530017376
I dont even need to check to know that cygame put all 6 of sword 1 drops in

>>530016737
can I manage in master ruby with rune at least.
my animated kuons will go to waste!

>>530017424
You win before T8 or lose, it's that simple, Valse is a 6pp card, if you play him before ambush, you lost anyway. Trade kage on powerspike turns so he'll be there for the sEvo. Lens makes Rune 10:0, and most importantly, have fun.

You guys wouldn’t have sex with Luna right?

>>530017619
>crown
>squirrel
>6pp valse
>tentacle
no wonder you get full raped by portal

>>530017619
Ahh interesting I’ve been running the more too heavy one but I only have 1 kagemitsu reeee

>>530017663
Nah, I would She's cute and funny.

>>530017768
You can try running Dogs or the 3pp spell but you're losing out on a shitton of value as a 0pp body that can clear or face depending on the evo.

>>530017376
I wish that we could make the AI use decklists that we don't own all of the cards for. I know it's not the same as a real pilot behind the deck, but I still want it.

>>530017619
rubyGOD

>>530017581
double roach was more of a thing with SV1 when it cost 2.
it being three cost makes it a bit clunky to try to do all in one go outside of extreme late game setups.
plus you really don't want to be waiting until endgame sword and portal shenanigans as forest anyways.
so a good general strategy is, get in some early damage (don't be shy to evolve for damage if you get the oppurtunity)
then use lilies and bayles and whatever other tools you have to control evolve turns.
then once super evolve comes online begin running calculations for roach kill in two turns.
ideally you can threaten lethal by turn seven but sometimes you have to wait till turn eight.
this is why you see stuff like olivia used as she helps you deal with stuff like orchis coming down on you without losing too much damage by super evolving her (try to get two pings!)

>>530016468
People are trying to climb, so easier, faster decks are taking priority over more comprehensive decks that play the field better. Tempo Sword, Aggro Dragon, and Puppet Portal play out faster.
>Haven
Has trouble stabilizing against the fast decks if it doesn't see certain removal cards but its late game isn't as explosive as Rune, Forest, or Portal's. It can still do big chunks of damage with a little setup.
>Dragon
Ramp Dragon is cold at the moment because early pressure is too strong for it and it lacks the ability to hang in against it. Its late game has less inevitability. Aggro Dragon isn't great, but it's fast and is basically a coin flip.
>Sword
Tempo Sword is definitely a solid deck, but inflexible. It just wants to curve out and score hits. It can't dump damage to face out of nowhere aside from with Albert/Centaur, but it can control board space and demand removal/trades like nothing else.
>Abyss
Midrange Abyss is in a weird place because it has an awkward play pattern and has to forgo one-drops to not brick your Cerberus turns, but if you survive to Cerberus then you've probably got it. Aggro Abyss is basically a worse version of Aggro Dragon because it loses to opposing aggro decks.
>Rune
Spellboost Rune can high roll like a motherfucker and steal games, but it's weak in the early game while it builds up and it wants to see Anne & Grea as soon as possible to maintain control while turning the corner into their big turns against the various aggro decks. Dirt Rune is ass right now because it lacks payoffs. People have tried a Dirt package in Spellboost to mixed results.
>Forest
Big baller combo deck that can high roll earlier than Rune, but doesn't have as good control tools. Very one-note at the moment, but effective if harder to play.
>Portal
Artifact is better into the field, but takes longer to play out and requires slightly more thought. Puppet Portal controls the early game while applying pressure and Orchis is one hell of a wincon.

>>530017897
Yeah I think I’ll try the spell ty bro

>>530017968
Okay I think I'm getting a better idea, I always end up winning games on like T9 and T10 which seems to be quite late compared to what's expected. And I have to deal with horrific shit like Amalia, Orchis, etc over multiple turns

>>530017968
you have to draw pretty well to be able to burn a roach early, you need enough roaches or a bounce spell, and still clear the board.
your lategame reach is not bad at all with just cairn as a 0 cost generator, turn 7 kill is extremely highroll. your early game just isn't strong enough to do enough damage for that, and of course as turns go by you're more likely to actually find your roaches

>>530015950
Why should I listen to a low ranking master when everyone can reach that point

>>530017979
>Its late game has less inevitability.

It's fucking baffling how ramp dragon just has nothing waiting at 10pp. Rune has Dclimb and Kuon. Portal has gundam. Sword has Albert. But dragon sacrifices board presence to rush to 10pp then they do and nothing happens. They have genesis dragon losing to any ward in the game and their PP costs are incredibly awkward so they have no real 10pp combos other than Zell+Mammoth or Forte+Marion.

Garyu would make more sense as a fucking 6pp card for how little he does and is paying an extra tax because dragon will have more pp so they should have to pay more pp.

>off by 1
you hate to see it

>>530018291
right, but if dragon did have something waiting at turn 10 it'd be fucking broken.
games are already making it to turn 10 for most decks, so its not like they need to ramp to get there.

>>530016541
>completely braindead to play in comparison
It's a single stair drop of difference but go off sis

>>530018251
Well yes that's why i mentioned we run certain cards to help deal with the turn 8 shenanigans that other crafts start dishing out.
However its important to be looking for lethal earlier if possible.
There's only so long you can stall until you start to sacrifice kill pressure.
It's not always possible to kill by around turn seven but you should be thinking about it around that time and adjust accordingly based on damage needed..

>>530017979
>>530018291
They need to let dragon's ramp spells accelerate the evo clock. Stuff like Gary is cucked because you can potentially ramp to play him early but all his power is gated behind super evoing, which you can't do ahead of schedule.

>530018269
>Begging for my attention
Then don't listen, it's that simple

>>530016679
is it worth dropping on turn 3 if you have no other option?

Getting x50 vials from a chest is a literal slap to the face

>>530018498
i mean you are going to know by your hand and how much chip you've done if it's even possible. like if your opponent isn't at 10-12 hp you shouldn't waste your time thinking about it.

>>530018458
>even lower than artifact portal
>not completely braindead
thats a funny one

>>530018361
this is lethal in 10 million ways

>>530018601
it's a bit over 2 cards in a minimum pull
1/4 pack value

>>530018450
If dragon has to spend 3 turns playing the shittiest moves possible then they should absolutely have something fucking waiting at 10pp. It doesn't have to be Satan dclimb automatically win the game but a 10pp card should at least be as strong as a 7pp+super evolution.

>>530018510
i dont think this is true like i think ramp is more held back by the rest of the deck being bad than garyu being bad.
like ramp that draws multiple garyu is still pretty scary if you can't ward out the genesis dragon

>>530018601
>BBC (big black chest) appears!
>200 rupies

>>530018223
No problem!
I'm also (re)learning forest and am far from perfect.
Here's a Rune match I had illustrating some of the ideas we've been discussing.
https://litter.catbox.moe/yl4xvhwszvt2d9nz.mp4

You'll notice at the end I did not fear their board as they could only ever do 19 dmg on their turn which wouldn't be enough to kill.

>>530018695
but garyu already is as strong as a 7pp super evolution...
its just not strong-er, and also the 9pp guy who gives -9 to everything is pretty mid too. he should probably have ward, healing, or draw (without needing to super evo)

>>530018579
just passing turn 3 is generally pretty game losing

>>530018450
>games are already making it to turn 10
Found the topaz

>>530017361
>forest boardlocked
a bit risky since they can bounce

Wtf is assail?

>>530018762
oh here's your biggest mistake (sorry not trying to sound rude)
instead of popping godwood, you should've just left the roach on the board. having 2 roach in hand is not better than having 1 roach in hand and godwood on board.
the only time i would pop godwood is if i only had 1 roach and was planning to bounce roach with bug alert for the final turn (bunc isnt enough because he's needed to hit through wards)

>>530014276
how the turn tables...

>>530019094
hmm good point.
godwood is effectively 2nd roach cost wise.
presumably the idea is to conserve hand space?

>>530018361
Isn't it lethal though?
Heal > Heal > take back rock > put rock back > Heal > Fairy > Roach > use rock > Roach hit for 8 > Carb take back Roach > Super Evo Carb put Roach back > Roach hit for 10 > Carb hit for 1

>>530019082
Evolve mechanic, physical card game, cards from Evolve getting ported here will have different effects
I bet my ass that Dirt card with assail here will be
>2 Dirt: gain storm

Do people really watch vtubers? I don't know how anyone watches Pekora shes so whiny

>>530019273
also keeps more board pressure and lets you continue to draw cards with godwood. hand space can matter too but it wasn't the main thing I was thinking of.

>>530019350
If chinese as a language can exist, you can't complain about her voice

>>530019350
I only know Kojumbo

>>530019082
In Evolve you tap followers to attack.
You can't attack untapped followers.
Assail followers can though.

>>530017979
>but if you survive to Cerberus then you've probably got it.
only if you got enough chip damage and didn't take much yourself
cerb or even cerb spam alone won't win games

>>530019304
should be able to just play 2 fairies, bounce, then another fairy instead of bouncing cairn
that should get you to a full 20 as well

>>530019082
in evolve, you must tap your follower to attack
and you can only attack player or tapped follower
assail let you attack untapped follower

I tried reading the sv1 story and wow these characters are all assholes aside from Arisa and Rowan

>>530019363
good point.
I'll keep that in mind.

>>530019273
you leave a body they have to deal with even it's frail as fuck
it's generally better to let it stay on the board after hitting face when you already have another roach on hand and godwood on the board

>Peko isn't playing sv anymore
Nooo...

>>530019502
They get better

havin too much fun with portal

>>530019502
Yeah isn't it interesting?

>>530019502
hey Urias is cool ):<, the later protags like the guild leaders and the robosis are much better

What the fuck is Marie’s problem?

>>530019502
Huh, kind of like the new cast!

>>530019304
you're adding +2 on a buffed roach, second roach hit is 9

>>530019651
who?

imagine playing sword, the most fujo/homo deck in the game

>>530019304
After carb roach only hits for 9

>>530019502
Luna is a good girl!

guys
his winrate improved after he cut his balls
https://youtu.be/ri_CnGo6jes?si=bILtnFb-_yX0BvOg

>>530019493
Cairn adds +2 to combo anyways

>>530018650
no

>>530019740
>cutest girl leader
>fujo/homo
this is your brain after getting pegged by a wooden doll for 20 hours straight

>>530019814
Aria...LIVES

>>530019884
enjoy your signature legendary being a dude lmao

>>530019680
fuck i messed up too but i just counted wrong

>opponent has EP/SEP available
>leaves baby buncle on board
huh

>>530019048
he did it twice but it was for fay kek, I as expecting a roach somewhere since his title card was challenge master

>>530019651
pussy too dry

>>530019502
they all get better besides erika

yoo

>>530019930
>reeeee males fucking homo males god damnit fucking males fuck off with these males oh my god another male fucking god damn males so many males i can't stand these fucking homos fucking faggot males faggot fuck males

I quit SV years ago, heard it was being EoS'd and then just found out they released SV2 but these screenshots look pretty much the same as the old SV. Mechanically, what's changed?

>>530019502
>wow these characters are all assholes
As if that wasn't the case in WB...?

>>530019514
Kmr should have emergency nerfed orchis for her.

I miss my beautiful wife...

The secret is to trust in the heart of the cards

>>530020245
They made every rune and portal card overstatted and killed bloodcraft

>>530019502
They have actual character development aside from the raging lesbian. Urias even gets a cute robowife.

>>530020185
>As Portal
>In D2
>Bragging about Sapphire
My sides are moving on their own.

>>530005601
Ive many times missed lethal forgetting about SEVO ping

>>530020245
Its the same game but wiped player collections and 10x more p2w lol

>>530020324
looks like a low class prostitute

i wish a very good death to all abyss downplayers

>>530020245
You can literally still log in and play SV1 rn, retard bro

>>530020364
>>530020419
Sounds about right.

>>530020245
There's SUPER evolve now

>>530020372
>As Sword
>In AA3
>Bragging about Sapphire
My sides are moving on their own.

>>530019502
Luna is fine.

so when does this game get good

>>530020546
next set

>>530020546
after you spend 200 bucks

>>530020546
when you make a good deck just like every other card game

>>530007524
Swordniggers will downplay their S-tier deck even though it has a favorable matchup against Portal and Rune.

>>530014509
It's the puppet wincon but it should have a "If you have played 8 puppets" requirement so Artefact doesn't use it

>>530020426
It's not tier 1 no matter how you want to cope about it.
Meanwhile, portal and sword downplayers exist and are much more deserving of your hatred.

puppet mulligan guide?

>>530020426
no abyss is shit

>>530020796
mulligan for your artifact generators, if you dont get enough of them you won't be able to curve into a 5 drop for alouette
even spending a single turn dropping a puppet card will stop you from being able to clear the board on curve

>>530020796
Orchis+curve

>>530009189
>plays 2 Aria
you guys lied to me, she's good

>>530020796
depends on matchup, but if you open orchis, keep it

>>530020873
bwo?

>>530019814
>Turn 6 evolve Sylvia
>Turn 7 super evolve Sylvia
>Turn 8 super evolve Sylvia
>5 free kills
>12 healing
>big body left on the board

Jesus fucking Christ

>>530020796
keep 2 drop then mull hard for Orchis
>>530020873
he's asking about puppets bro

am i legitimately retarded or is the dlc not back up on steam like the news says it is

>>530020973
i dont think it is, what do you do if amalia super evo's over her and trades into every fairy?

>>530020206
Nta but is this supposed to be self mockery...?

>>530021042
Both can be true

>>530021007
>lost because you're puppet without any ep

>>530021062
? the point of the fairies she summons is to go face and bring them in roach range mainly

>>530020426
I have nothing but respect for pedobyss

>>530021062
>what do you do if Amalia
This always made Forest cry

>>530021137
right, so what do you do when the board she leaves behind isn't able to clear a single amalia ward
>>530021131
but they never had to use their regular ep so liam kills you
again puppet has a bad matchup against control decks but fucks over anyone else

>>530020546
That's the best part, it doesn't.

>>530021229
>yeah but what about amaliaaa
bro amalia is broken, the end lol what would you put that clears amalia instead? I use the 4 cost dudes but they're bricks

>>530021229
bro they use 3 evo point on not hitting face, a liam is at max 8 damage, you have to be giga losing on board (which you didnt cause they have to triple sylvia to even deal with your board) to lose to liam

Haven is the second most satisfying deck to use after forest

>>530021309
olivia. the sep'd fairy tanks two wards and thats pretty good. bunc + 2 fairies can easily take out the rest.
sadly this can be countered by ambush valse on turn 6 trading into it for free. you'd think it's a waste of valse but it ends up being worth it for them

>>530009189
I've never seen people do ft10s or something in fucking card games, what autism is this?

>>530021336
ok but liam is also a 10/10 behind 3-4 wards which fucks you up if you aren't a control deck
also sylvia doesn't leave them behind on board at all

>>530021423
he also plays olivia in the same list, they have two different purposes. also olivia doesn't do shit for amalia really well anyway unless you're willing to use bayle or have a good hand etc. amalia is just a very good card vs forestcraft with little counters

>>530020713
>>530020861
>>530021206
>infinite healing
>infinite evolve free board wipes
>can do damage outside of two expensive cards that need evolves on top of their cost
fuck off

>>530020973
>he barely use aria
>when he use aria he lose anyway
Pure roach is better for many reason

Tournament in 2 hours

>>530021229
bro the puppet nigger lost in the match where he healed thrice with Sylvia, which the anon quoting forgot to mention

>>530021539
>infinity heal
Gee, lemme guess, swordie / puppet losing againts mid abyss lmfao

>>530021553
this whore needs to get RAPED

>>530021539
but enough about haven

>>530020973
There's a growing list of things /svg/ said is bad that pros run, they include:
>Ralmia/Cannon
>Kage/Crown
>Aria/Thorn
>Dirt Rune
>Abyss
>Forest
This is the issue when anyone is allowed to comment on the game. The half the people in the thread, by definition, are worse than average, and they shout louder and more confidently than the experts.

>>530021596
by the looks of it that's because they were stupid and left bayle alive for no reason, and forest committed/was forced to commit early bayles that would not have survived against orchis

>>530021553
I want to wait until tomorrow so all the good players who are addicted to shadoba are out of the way but I'm addicted too and really really really want to play immediately.

>>530021539
Anon, you just described haven

>>530021639
The only people worth listening to are those in 21488, they actually have the experience to back it up and will play you to demonstrate. The rest are shitters that disappear the instant you ask for rank/group or to play in person.

>>530021639
>cannon
>5pp do nothing
>crown
>4pp win more
>>>>>>>DIRT RUNE

>>530021720
Addict

>>530021435
what it happens all the time in all sorts of games

>>530021752
LobbyGODS...

>>530021639
too much bait

>>530021307
fucking love these images like you wouldn't believe

>>530021752
>listening to erp trannies

>530021770
>530021819
Thanks for proving my point.

>>530021752
I looked at the profiles of everyone in the lobby yesterday and most of them were actually in diamond. So this is actually, surprisingly, true.

>>530021732
haven's amulet doesn't leave a 'kill this or instantly lose' legendary on the board

>>530021512
what deck out there that cant deal with a liam at 10pp? as long as you dont die to the puppet popping
>sylvia doesn't leave them behind on board at all
she also doesn't win you the board at all, every decks worth their salt can clear a big body during evo point turn, so no face damage, and no lethal with liam

I don't know anything about the Shadowverse pro scene

Is Dayan a good player or just a ladder memester?
Who do I ste- learn the Forestcraft MUs and decks from?

>>530021874
are you seriously having trouble dealing with medusas

>>530021873
By definition the only people showing up are those confident enough to believe they belong there.

Just because a pro is playing a deck or running a card doesn't inherently make it good. Show me stats and winrates. Show me the card in question being used in an impactful way.

Fanfare: Spellboost your hand 3 times.
Evolve: Select an enemy follower on the field and deal it 3 damage.

They fucked up and posted the new forest card early

>Thieving Fairy
>4pp 1/1
>look at the opponents hand and select a card. Take it from their hand and place it in your own

>>530021942
individually no of course not
on top of every other b ullshit thing they have yes

>>530021873
>>530021948
damn I should join the lobby more then
when is it the most active?

>>530021884
well...
forest can't...
puppet is really good against forest...
sylvia doesn't win you the board, but she doesn't leave you behind far enough to matter. Like she isn't failing to clear the board

>>530022013
fake and gay

>>530022046
6 hours ago

>>530021952
The big issue with "a pro did it" posts honestly. A lot of them time they're trying out things that they know is probably bad for testing or evaluation purposes. This is less of a big deal in Shadowverse but in traditional card games it's very common for tournament format decks to be very different from decks used in regular play too because they're designed with very specific functionality in mind like sacrificing overall win rate to answer a particular match up.

>>530022012
Now delete the other one too and I'm sold.

>>530021927
Dayan is forest autist theorycrafter

>>530022046
around reset, people do their dailies and then hang out after

>>530022012
Anne?!?!

>>530021952
you don't get it sis, my fave streamer said it's good! he's japanese! did you know he's japanese???!

>>530022098
>American hours
it's over
>>530022117
I see thank you

>>530021948
That's not what by definition means retard and also no lol I go daily and I'm trash

>530021853
>"t-thanks f-f-or proving my p-p-point"
you just fling shit on the wall and pretend its art
it's not

>>530022050
at 10pp, forest can probably kill you through 4 wards if I'm being honest
>Like she isn't failing to clear the board
it is not that she's falling, it's that she eating off your precious resource, all of puppet wincon is tied to evo point, being forced to spend on sylvia just suck

>>530021952
>>530022103
>pro boots up abyss
>immediately falls to ruby or topaz

>>530022050
>well...
>forest can't...
>puppet is really good against forest...
lol
it's not getting to t10 unless forest bricks

>>530021639
>the problem is that people can have opinion
lol

>>530022301
oh yes you are
with puppet early game and sylvia healing, yes you are.
it's not if forest bricks, forest needs to giga highroll to stop you.

>530022364
>all opinions are equally valid
Participation award generation

>>530021639
Nice bait but what kind of retard said ralmia bad

>>530022364
oops, meant for >>530022364
sorry this is my first day here.

>>530022464
you would be surprise, a lot of mouthbreather was genuinely shilling about cutting ralmia for a more hybrid portal

>>530022464
I see you're new here.

>>530021927
dayan is a hack. he's ok but not good compared to an actual pro player; he's only known because he's entirely devoted to forest since 2016, getting 40k ranked wins for it in sv1 and having arisa's va herself congratulate him for the feat during the final sv1 channeru.

>>530022050
At 10pp Forest doesn't look for anything else but a way to OTK you. They won't even care about your board since they will most likely have enough in their hand to even remove 4 wards.

>>530022171
meant for >>530021853

>>530022453
Kinda wanna play Abysscraft now...

>suddenly 3 runes in a row
WHY

>>530020423
Don't you dare say such things about my wife, anon.

>>530022706
>has lethal
>still complains

>>530022605
right but this isnt a case of going to 10pp because forest wanted to go to 10pp
this is a case of forest was completely unable to finish the game any earlier and had it's aggro gameplan completely denied, and now is forced to draw the perfect combo pieces in the right order.
most roach games that end before 10pp would not be winnable if the game made it to 10pp with their opponent at full health. Assuming that roach will draw well just because it's turn 10 is a big mistake, otherwise roach decks would be way more geared towards doing that

>>530022706
please tell me you won anon

>530022646
>Licks my attention off the floor of the thread
>So desperate, he lasted 8 minutes before using a proper reply
Kill yourself. This is rock bottom.

>>530022758
what do you mean I lost next round

>>530022706
Nigga, you saved your evos because you thought you could beat rune in a long game?

>>530022520
Cutting to avoid brick make sense, cutting ralmia because she's dogshit is a completely different case
>>530022563
I've been here since sv1 but quit after wonderland and come back here again since wb release.

>>530022782
oops, haha, meant for >>530022646

>>530022807
>pop both shadowcrypts
>play cerb, giving all ghosts +2/+0
>sevo ghost
>razory claw face
that's 18 damage

>build wall against gundam
>he just plays two of the direct damage robot
i hate this game

>>530022807
Smartest rune hater.

You're not fooling anyone you lonely faggot.

>>530022807
>>530022706
Lmao

Since Orchis still wasn't nerfed, we can safely assume that it is, in fact, a fair and honest card.
And portal is working exactly as intended. In fact, it needs a buff.

>>530022779
Actual capable Forest players never throw out any of their combo pieces unless they're sure they have the exact lethal. They will always bounce back roach or Beyle and try chipping at you. Either they die holding 9 cards or they kill you with those 9 cards.

>>530023103
t. rune shitter trying to deflect

Now to take it easy until the next set

>>530023103
it is, yes.

>>530016103
This vindicates me so fucking much, because I put fighter into my puppet deck about 5 days ago exactly because Puppet otherwise doesn't have sticky things on the board that are good face threats.

wait is Fighter Amelia's father

>>530023103
>still wasn't nerfed
I don't think we got ANY balance changes yet, have we?

>>530022807
Now thats just pathetic

>>530023261
game is perfectly balanced

>>530023168
right but that's assuming we drew them in the first place and also we're out of evo's which we need to clear boards, and also our lethal range goes way down if we can't sep bunc, and holding 0 costs in hand makes it even harder to clear boards with the rest...
i'm not saying it's impossible but its really tough.

>>530009547
Legendary doujin