Final Bosses of Deltarune Edition
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>>530130821Spoilers ahead, proceed at your own Frisk.
-DELTARUNE CHAPTER 1-4
>https://store.steampowered.com/app/1671210/DELTARUNE/-The Old Game
>https://undertale.com-The Old Game's Demo
>https://undertale.com/demo-The New Game
>https://deltarune.com-The New Game's Progress
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>https://www.fangamer.com/collections/undertale>https://www.fangamer.com/collections/deltarune-Books
-Undertale Artbook
>https://pastebin.com/1MRmU0Gk-Legends of Localization - Undertale
>https://pastebin.com/DkZaXMpi-Extra Content
>https://undertaleqa.tumblr.com>https://undertale.com/alarmclock>https://deltarune.com/sweepstakes/>https://toby.fangamer.com/newsletters/-Undertale/Deltarune Text Dumps & Screenshots
>https://pastebin.com/WG9u1fvH-Undertale Image Collections
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>https://utg.vidya.pics/-Recommendbin
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FRAUD KNIGHT AND FRADULENT VESSEL
Soul Solos
The roaring knight and Kris won't be the final bosses
>>530159631there's no proof to suggest Kris is either male or female, that's just how you personally see them as
>>530159971Another anon has fallen to obvious rage bait
I feel like the thread quality always goes to shit around this time
>>530159808>>530159670 (OP)>>530159691We really need to do something about making multiple threads
Cuckelle is a fan term in the Deltarune community, blending "cuck" (from cuckold) with Noelle's name. It refers to memes where Noelle is portrayed as sidelined or third-wheeling in Kris-Susie (Krusie) ships, often controversially implying cuckoldry. Many fans criticize it as inappropriate for teen characters.
>>530160152many fans are gay and lame
>>530159971there's no proof to suggest Kris is non-binary, either
>>530159971Gender presentation is subconscious. You don't think about whether or not to call someone "he" or "she". It happens by default. To act like the majority of people are "selfish" or "bigoted" because Kris is clearly masculine to the point of being seen as a boy is literal delusion. Furthermore, because Kris never actively states his/her/their preferred gender identity, the act of enforcing the idea that he/she/they is/are non-binary as fact is both oppressive and reductionist. They don't even understand how hypocritical they are.
>>530160360kris is too small and long haired to be a bio boy
>>530160240>whiteknighting for Kris of all people
>>530160523Kris is cyber boy
>>530160523Small relative to monsters, which we don't have an actual frame of reference for the height of. And... Hair? Really? That's the most retarded possible point to stand on. Is Russel Brand a girl to you?
>>530160542>resorting to virtue signalingmisgenderbros we are winning so mvch...
Kris is a female, she will never be a man.
what are some male things about kris that don't apply to susie
>>530160339...other than every character referring to Kris as "they"
>>530160684Uh... Did you reply to the wrong post, Anon? Are you okay?
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hmm... not enough
>>530160778she's a human in a hmofa game
/utg/ not beating the almost all bad posts are made by one retard on multiple devices allegations
Kris is male because I like him while I hate all women
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BcSMaGoNVO0
where my sonic adventure fans at?
>>530160789No i replied to the post i intended to reply to
Why do people ask if i replied correctly so much, it looks like some people are too retarded to follow an argument
>>530160778I know this is insane, anon, but Susie is this special thing called a tomboy, who happens to have masculine qualities despite being a woman. In fact, tomboys are an endangered species because the troons keep hunting them
>>530160853Susie if she dessed
>>530160917that's not what he asked
>>530159971Why would Kris be sleeping in the same room as Asriel if he was a she?
>>530160664>it's normal to gender kris because sociology>nooo it's impossible kris is a flat chest girl, stop misgendering my fantasy self insertliterally every time kek
I think it would be funny if it was implied that Kris and the Knight were in a homosexual relationship, negatively impacting game discussion as most people are uncomfortable with an abusive romance in the main route and try to ignore it if they don't drop the game, while those who don't ignore it have to consider what it means for the story, why it was included, and what it means for these characters' sexes/genders
>>530161053The knight is a they/them?
>>530161019they're siblings, tf are you trying to imply?
>>530161053kris is fucking papyrus???
kris is either male or female depending on which gendered version kris is currently that makes me horny
>>530161187You either are retarded or never had friends with siblings if you think that's even remotely normal
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The eggs are issues because they're children.
>>530161275I don't think you've ever had siblings?? It's not uncommon for siblings to share a room
>>530160787Y'know it is offesive to assume someone's gender based on pronouns alone? Non-binary people can use "he" or "she" as preferred pronouns, or vice versa.
>>530160917so how do people know that kris is definitely a guy and not a tomboy or something else
>>530161346It's entirely uncommon and in fact disgusting for a brother and sister to share a single room for numerous reasons
>>530158147>gaster wrote entry number 17>mystery voice is first introduced with what is explicitly gaster's theme playing>mystery voice consistently uses identical language and word choice as seen in entry 17>mystery voice talks in all caps just like entry 17>mystery voice talks slowly in short fragmented sentences broken up with line breaks like entry 17>mystery voice uses the same typer value 666 as entry 17>entry 17's text sounds are made from the same text-to-speech voice that says "DELTARUNE" in deltarune's opening>but there's NO evidence the mystery voice in deltarune is gaster speaking!HOW VERY,
VERY
AMUSING.
THIS ANON APPEARS
TO BE
...
GASTERBROKEN.
WHOM MIGHT THEY PROPOSE
THE LIKELY SPEAKER TO BE?
>>530161317Knight is either Papyrus directly or it's a Gaster piece who becomes Papyrus after needing to reset its memories
>>530161346Only if parents live in the same room.
>>530161346Not when puberty starts.
>>530161450Are you okay? Do you need help? Blink twice if you're being held hostage to think that way
>>530161525>Knight Lmao I meant the forgotten Man, though it's not impossible papyrus is the Knight either
>>530161019Kris is a vessel, they have no genitalia.
It's ok because Asriel is gay
>>530161401Because they either self-insert as Kris or they want to insert themselves into Kris's bussy. There's no reason to have circular arguments about this shit every other thread, no one is going to change their minds and there's no need for them to.
*slams emergency button*
New lore clues have been found
The master organ, the one where Kris plays, the design has two shapes that look like the horns of the Titan we fight.
>>530161474toby could be such a dick with secret endings
>>530161474Your save is bricked if you didn't get the slippery gloves
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>>530161474i swear that fucking dog puts so much random shit in places you don't even think of checking
>>530161346>>530161450>>530161613It is entirely normal (and legal) to have sex with your twin sibling while your parents are away. Just make sure to use condoms.
>>530161864>IP grabbing link
>>530161687...Yet. We need to "color-in" them.
>>530161923I think regardless of what Kris' gender is, they were fucking. But Kris is definitely a guy so it's gay not-really incest and that's hot
Who is the Roaring Knight?
I saw videos of Dess, Asriel, Rudy and Kris's knife. Carol is the unpopular option and she is set up as a red herring for being the phone caller.
>Dess
Narratively a cool choice, I love it and got lots of fanart, but it's too overhyped and I wouldn't surprise me if she wasn't the knight at all.
>Asriel
Knows about Dess and Kris wouldn't want to hurt him.
>Rudy
Talks like the phone caller, but it's awkward how he uses the same poses like Kris.
>Knife
Kris puppeteers their knife who turns into the Roaring Knight and trolls (You). Rudy is the phone caller and Asgore kidnapped Undyne. Kris turns the Roaring Knight into a knife to knock down Susie and Ralsei.
Pros:
SWORD route confirming that Tenna is an accomplice to Kris.
Kris working with Carol and Asgore.
Cons:
Needs another bullshit theory how Kris's knife fused with Dess's dust or some bullshit to open a fountain.
Why would Toriel let a stranger she met two days ago do this to her?
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>>530161474*sigh* time to restart from chapter 1...
>>530162040>knifePlain wrong. The roaring knight has to be a lightner because they traversed through the light world to get to the bunker. Think harder
>>530161864why does this feel lewd
>>530161401Doe that fatty look like a tomboy to you.
>>530161450It's another anon can't comprehend the existence of multiple cultures episode. Will anon learn about standards besides their own or will they spill spaghetti and dither like a retard? Only you decide!
>>530162209I'm so sorry your culture is wrong but that's not my problem nor do I care
>>530162115Sans needs to have his head knocked off.
>>530162143>rape
>>530161474Can this even be considered a "secret"? I think everyone interacted with a chest there in their first playthrough.
The house only has two bedrooms
>>530162040>it's too overhypedstill the most ridiculous reason to say it's unlikely i've seen
toby doesn't swerve just because people predict shit early, you'd think people'd understand that after we had the SWORD route in chapter 3 long after we all figured out how to do snowgrave on our own, but people STILL disregard the most obvious suspect just because other people expect it
I love Tenna more than life itself.
>>530162365Asgore should have built a doghouse for Kris to sleep in so Asriel would stop raping them every night
>>530162143>>530162371Is Undertale Toriel as much of a whore as Deltarun Toriel? I've never played Undertale.
>>530160152"Many fans" I don't know about that one. Most people are very interested in sex with at least one of the main characters.
What room does the fallen star text appear in?
>>530162391The sword route telling someone about snowgrave has nothing to do with the endgame narrative. I have no idea why you think that being kept in as a vital part of the chapter 3 experience and the knight being an obvious choice are tied in the slightest, but they aren't. And just because snowgrave was discovered early on doesn't mean someone playing through it for the first time will know about it, so the mantle game still serves a purpose. It's not about "swerving". It's about being a good twist, and Dess being "lost in the code" to mysteriously show up as the roaring knight isn't that.
lightners have both humans and monsters
darkners have only, well, animated objects
what if darkners had a second counterpart too, as if all the idiots stuck in the void are their own secret fourth thing
>captcha WNG 2 WM
>>530162391Imagine Dess hiding behind that door haha
>>530162620The room on the other side of the egg room window. Not the egg room itself, the room with the Organikk with jumbled up dialogue.
>>530162564She's a massive bitch but the fandom liked to gloss over it.
In a post-True Pacifist Q&A/story time thing in one of the Newsletters, it's shown she still can't handle her drinking so Papyrus just puts her in his shed after she blacks out.
Actually none of the cast are the Knight, it's a character that hasn't shown up yet and won't show up until at least Ch6 and won't have any connection to anything that we've seen so far.
>>530162659Wrong eye color
>>530161401We don't know for sure. Anyone asserting with 100% certainty that Kris is a tomboy is just as bad as They/Them only reeee!!!!
Well maybe not quite as bad, tomboy certainists are less aggressive about it.
>>530162564Undertale Toriel is, in fact, not a virgin. That was confirmed.
If you're asking if she had sex with Sans, then no. She never opened a door to the Ruins.
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Toriel is not a pleasant person.
Too bitchy.
>>530162703You mean beings of pure darkness like Ralsei and the Titans?
>>530162040It's very obviously carol
At minimum it's clearly a holiday because of all the very obvious motifs. If that was just a bait with no explanation that would absolutely fall flat
The knight also can't be a darkner, both because they can open fountains and because they can exist in the light world
>>530162801younglings tend to have blue eyes that slowly turn a more natural color as they age
>>530162835I'm still so confused bro. What angle are we supposed to take her from?
What the fuck was up with this attitude?
>>530162890>it's obviously carolSHE IS BUSY SCOLDING NOELLE
>>530162825>ut/dt characters age 18 and plus based on wich are still virgins, and how good would they be at it at all
>>530162559There's no rape in wholesome, (step)brotherly love
>>530162882yeah that kind of stuff
i'm surprised that there's a whole 4th thing with the titans actually, they're darkness itself becoming alive yet they're so, well, fucking insane
I think I would mind all the gay shit here a little bit less if you were all well adjusted rather than fat fetishists
>>530162978To be fair, Carol is a bitch. She woukdn't take Toriel's disapproval without retaliating tenfold.
>>530163106>if you were all well adjustedThat's boring though
>>530162649you're failing to see the point here
toby didn't remove mantlle just because we figured out what it was meant to tell us, in the same way he won't change who he wrote the knight to be just because we figured it out early
it's the same thing: you expect dess to not be the knight not because it doesn't work, but because it's "the obvious choice" - much like if you'd known bits and pieces about mantle before chapter 3 came out you never would've assumed it was about snowgrave because it would've been 'too obvious'
it's just a shit way of digesting stories to expect them to NEVER be predictable - a good mystery allows you to figure out the solution before the end, not for 100% of readers to go "WOW! I never could've expected that one!" because that's just showing you didn't make a solvable mystery
>Lanino and Elnina
>La Nino and El Nina
>The Boy and The Girl
Why the fuck did this take me so long to figure out
You think you're clever, you stupid dog? By using other languages for your jokes? Is that it? Are we gonna have to learn how to speak esperanto to figure out the next secret, huh?
>>530162040>Dess, Asriel, Rudy and Kris' Knife>D.A.R.K.FUCK
>>530163106I prefer twinks, we're not all cubby chasers here.
>>530160917And whatโs stopping kris from also being a tomboy?
>>530163234They're named after the weather phenomenon that everyone learns about in grade school
>>530163234it's weather phenomena
>>530163234>You think you're clever, you stupid dog? By using other languages for your jokes? Is that it? Are we gonna have to learn how to speak esperanto to figure out the next secret, huh?don't tell this anon about guei
>>530163234La is feminine, and El is masculine, so thatโs another joke.
>>530162835It's interesting to wonder what might have led to Toriel not even being willing to say Carol's name.
>>530163178You take multiple diversions before you get to the knight encounter, retard.
there's also multiple times where you have to suspend your disbelief in the dark worlds and assume that there are other paths between places or the geometry doesn't make sense.
>>530163334>>530163339...is it some weather phenomena in America or the UK? I genuinely don't know, I'm not from there. First time I hear about it being that.
>>530161453>666Weird. It's just a coincidence, but today while browsing /utg/ and listening to the ost on Youtube, I saw several comments with exactly 666 likes.
>>530163346Did you just call me gay?
>>530161019THEY
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>>530163317Three tomboys in the main cast is too confusing, how am I supposed to know which one to jerk off to?
>>530163308monster twinks look like cubs, tho
>>530163372He has a pussy
>>530163372he's average, enough to satisfy elnina
roulx is bigger but he has to announce every time he goes in our out before making any move and kills all momentum
>>530163334>everyoneamerican detected
>>530161864Now that's a jolly lad!
>>530160963Whereโs my boy ramb?
>>530163589in the void of irrelevancy, fuck you.
>>530163441>>530163550American developer, American game, American weather. Cope and seethe.
>>530163106Not my problem
Don't forget to take your TV out for a walk. Make sure to keep him on a leash so he doesn't get lost!
>>530163674when this happened during the feacher presentation i was shook
>>530163470>susie>krisWhoโs the third tomboy cause it certainly isnโt giga bottom noelle
>>530163651You got a loisence for that take?
>>530163419Yeah, the deal between Tenna and Spamton and Spamton's call does not make much sense unless we assume Brave Little Toaster/Osmosis Jones/Toy Story mechanics.
the weather always stays together
>>530162772One on the right
>>530163651bait used to be believable
>>530163779>Brave Little Toaster/Osmosis Jones/Toy Story???
guys Toby needs to release Chapter 0 so I can play with DESS instead of stinky susie
I reckon that you can plot people's personality very well based on whether they think Toriel is great, a cunt or neutral on one axis, and the same for Vriska on another.
What kind of play styles do you think the other humans should have if they get their own fangames?
>>530163781irrelevant characters. what relation do lanino and elnina have with dess?
>>530163775Do you guys think Ramb's involvement in the sword route is an allusion to the British knife crime epidemic?
Dreemurs, meet the dreemurs
they're the 201X family
from the, town of HOMEtown
they're losing way to many kids
let's ride, with toriel down the street
while asgore, sits down a comfy seat
>>530164053Lanino and Elnina are a reference to Toriel and Asgore's relationship.
>sans has nothing to do with dess
>in order to regain story relevancy he fucks the mother of dessโ friend
sasugaโฆ
>>530163441It's pacific specific. Loads of weather (hurricanes, tornadoes, monsoons) is pretty rare when you're far away from the equator.
The pacific is so big that it gets its own unique stuff too
>>530163912And Veggie Tales, Cars, etc. Inanimate stuff being sapient and having facial expressions and stuff.
>>530163978I think Toriel is a recently divorced single mother who has a slight issue with alcohol and an adopted, special ed child with mental health issues. She's caring and tries her best, but she's still a person that makes mistakes.
>>530164097All I know is that Toby should have asked an actual English person to help him write Ramb. There are many ways he could have been made more authentic, and there was a missed opportunity to say "have a butchers" in a sinister tone of voice.
>>530163451no, i said guey
guey looks like the chinese character for ghost
and the chinese character for ghost can be pronounced as guey
>>530164268Also she is sad over DESS being missing
Dess is the key to all this. If we can Dess working. 'cause she's a darker character than we've ever had in any of the chapters before.
>>530163978what's the deal with vriska anyway?
I've never seen anything from homestuck besides porn
>>530164161Ah, so Sans will bring them all together. Asgore, Sans, Toriel. Happy ending.
>>530164161imagine how fucked up would it be if elnina and lanino had a child on chapter 3 to make it as onn the nose as posible
>>530164339I donโt know why people arenโt discussing Dess instead of whatever irrelevant characters. Dess is the only person we should be talking about
>>530163587He's so cute, I can't stand it.
Today's gonna be a good day.
Toby's writing needs more critique
Imagine sans asgore toriel throuple
It would fun if toby did it
>he didn't no hit the closet section
sorry chud, that's the bad ending
>>530164182>>sans has nothing to do with dessYou fool.
deSs
After
Not
Surviving
>>530163732if you interact with the fridge enough times at the end of chapter 2 there is a very small chance of Tenna turning fat during the chapter 3 introduction, allowing you to skip through the whole thing without even needing to fight the Knight (whose attacks would just bounce off).
You can still do an alternate version of the gameshow if you're not speedrunning, but there will be significant changes to many scenes. For example, if you trigger the Spamton foam scene, Tenna will now spray whipped cream at him instead, which Spamton will eat and use to turn fat as well. This will affect the Dealmaker stats.
The "Mike" encounter will also include the green Pippins (Battat) speculating on what happened to Tenna's diet and if the real Mike was involved.
You will need to find an extra secret chalk to give Susie the strength to lift Light World Tenna to move him to Castletown or Mettaton's house, or the save will be bricked.
>>530164413Hmm, can darkners breed? Well, Titans can, so surely regular Darkners can too. What about Darkner/Lightner hybrid? Is that what Ralsei is? We know that Asriel had at least 3 lightner lovers, so having a darkner lover is not out of question.
>>530164448Whenever dess isnโt on screen all the other characters should be asking โwhereโs dess?โ
>>530164402Imagine if the shitposts about everything revolving around Susie and/or Dess were basically true, and you can more or less imagine what Vriska was like
>>530164841did vriska fuck tavros or was that just formality
>>530164514What's the maximum damage you can take in the closet? I want Kris to suffer
>>530164773>Asriel fucked a plushie
>>530165047>Asriel is a plushiefuckercute
>>530163412is it that Toriel won't say Carol's name or that Rudy doesn't refer to Carol as his wife?
>>530164984She forced her tongue down his mouth while mind controlling him and she also crippled him. No rape, sadly(?)
>>530164402she's outright written as a bitch for the sake of being a bitch
to give a small example, she crippled a guy during a LARP session because he surrendered, then she proceeds to antagonise him throughout the main story through shit like giving him stairs instead of ramps
then she kills him later in the same animation that uses megalovania funnily enough
of course homestuck trolls are technically in such a way that being an asshole to someone for 'no real reason' is in its own way an attempt to be a relationship thanks to hatefucking being its own 'quadrant' in their 4-way relationship system, but vriska's generally just an asshole to everyone anyway
>we missed Asriel's harem romantic comedy
DAMMIT
the endurance test:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRkkERLPzaI
I am STILL here.
Post funnies AGAIN.
>>530165247gonna play this on full blast to fuck with my neighbors
>>530165414please donโt
>>530165414Sing along as loud as you can
>>530165449It's already happening. I'm 3 minutes in
>>530165528what have i done
>>530165247>lurking /utg/, /utg/, /utg/
>Ralsei becomes a real boy in chapter 7
>Fangamer discontinues Ralsei plushies forever and destroys any remaining stock
Worth it?
>>530165117>>530165331It causes me actual distress to try to imagine how anyone could look at that dialogue and get the participants backwards, but somehow people do. Even on the wiki!
>>530165601I considered turning it off after 3 and a half minutes but I'm too invested now, I think I'll just keep it playing. The 5 minute mark was hard to endure too.
>>530165709>Even on the wiki!fucking really? it's not even that far into chapter 4, you could start up a new save file and get to it within like 10 minutes at most
Whatโs kris and the knightโs relationship?
>>530165247I thought this was going to be the lady gaga one
That one made me want to kill myself
>>530165952The Knight is DESS so Kris is allying with her so players donโt forget about him
Would Susie's egg be a darkner or an consumable in the dark world?
Screenshot this post. I'm going to try to shut up the Dess theorists.
December Holiday is NOT the knight. She is lost in the code. Kris is responsible for whatever happened to her, and is guilty about it, thus is working alongside the roaring knight to save her. This is likely tied to the hand situation, but that's speculation for now.
Chapter 3 is the most discussion we've had about December in the entire game. Dark Fountains are a reflection of their creator, and Kris' guilt over what happened to her is evident in Tenna bringing her up, the gacha machine secret, and the deer appearing in the backstage game. Something similar happens in chapter 4 with Susie's dark fountain, where the prophecy only displays the parts she's interested in (primarily "the girl"). Contrast to the dark world where the full prophecy is present, only someone who knows the prophecy would be able to create it.
Asriel IS the roaring knight. He and Kris are working together to save Dess, and require the player to do it. Unlike the armor that manifests when entering the dark world, the roaring knight's armor is distinct, and we know the helmet can be removed. It's armor made from darkness that grants the ability to morph. We also know Asriel and Kris worked together on their projects (the angel doll, drawings on the PC) and this aligns with their poses being the same. They have the same interests. This also explains why communication with Asriel is mysteriously impossible starting from the day the player arrives.
For the hyperanalyst autists who need further evidence, Toriel specifically says at the very start of the game that Asriel will be home next week. Chapter 4 ends on a saturday night, making Sunday morning the start of chapter 5.
We also know the voice on the phone isn't any character we've heard yet, as Carol calls at the end of weird route to confirm if Kris is going to the festival.
Dess is important, but not in the way the "Dess is the knight" crowd think. It's deeper than that.
>why did tenna enslave the blackest darkners specifically?
>>530165683>Ralsei becomes a real boyI love to think of the aftermath of this. He's not a citizen, he has no papers, he has no parents, he has no money, he has nothing. Where would he even live? I know the obvious feel good answer is "haha Toriel adopts him :)" but what if that falls through? Little fluffball is all on his own.
What are implications of Gaster Followers not being gone in Deltarune? Do you think they do some stuff in the background to keep things running?
>>530165992the one that has started at least two house fires
>Dark Fountains are a reflection of their creator
That's why Tenna is also into puppyplay
>>530166158Sex work would be easy for him
>>530166102always welcome :p
>>530166043the winglades in chapter 4 can both be held as a weapon and be found as a darkner, tenna's special ??? starts chirping after a while so it's probably alive, but kris can eat pipis
i'd say susie's egg would be a KEY item, and if you try to eat it with susie on your party kris loses 15 hp and gets yelled at ''DON'T EAT YOUR SON DUMBASS, WE'RE NOT MAKING A NEW ONE''
>>530166145He's a /pol/tard
>>530166339no matter what world itโs born in that thing will be an unholy abomination
>>530166295Imagine the happiness of being real, the slow realization of how horrible reality is and the eventual downfall to prostitution just to survive.
>>530166192Aside from the weird bird guy who blocks the library in Deltarune, the other two Gaster Followers also had normal counterparts in Undertale.
>>530166086>we know the helmet can be removedWe know that Kris imagines that happening, not that it's actually possible
>>530166415Hardly an issue for him. He exists to serve the lightners and it wouldn't even make him upset if he were seen as just an object to them
>1 upcoming year of people arguing and screaming about headcanon versions of Dess
>people already mindbroken and thinking she is Vriska
>chapter 5 reveals fuck-all about the Knight
Dess is guaranteed to derail every Deltarune thread and general.
>>530166417Clam Girl directly tells you in Chapter 2 that you missed something "Yesterday" (yellow text) on the shore, so she's the same as the bird guy.
>>530166158Gaster will forge the necessary documents to adopt Ralsei so he and Susie can be siblings
>>530166447No, we know it's not Kris' imagination because he immediately switches to thinking about jockington instead. He purposefully distracts us from seeing the truth. If it was imagination, he wouldn't have to prevent us from seeing it. Just like he does with Asriel's room in Chapter 2.
i never visited onionsan and i never will
>>530166086>Asriel IS the roaring knightwhy is it whenever someone tries to pull this whole "dessknight theorists are so stupid!" thing they either say something even goofier or even more fanservicey?
i mean every fucking time someone says "dess is still in the code!" they immediately proceed to make an entire different presumption like "papyrus is just wearing a helmet with antlers" or "everyone's just lying about asriel being at college" or "if you fuck around with FRIEND's smile a bit it kinda looks like the knight's visor"
it's just kind of exhausting at this point
>>530166027Happy birthday?
>>530165247Finished. It gets particularly good after about 10 minutes in. It grows on you. The burgerpants part gave me a chuckle. I give it a 7/10.
>>530166705why did my post make you erect
>>530166608Kris panics because he knows Knight's real identity. If the imagination continued, it would likely reveal it.
>>530165247i'm too scared
>>530166413WRONG
the union of a monster and a human in undertale leads to one of the most powerful beings in-lore, if deltarune is anything like that, were a human and a monster able to produce a child through sheer determination with the powers that both worlds give, we'd have the master race in our hands.
>>530166671I can't wait to see Ralsei's tail. Tail reveal when???
>>530166647At what point would it have to be a lie? Nothing would stop him from coming home early to handle a world-changing event without telling anyone. You sound retarded when you try to boil it down this way.
>>530166158does ralsei have any valid education or would he have to start from the 1st grade of primary school
>>530166859hope you like your totally real monster wife having a mess of weird goo that resembles a monster come out of her pussy, or maybe it would come out normal since you have low DT you fucking graysoul
>>530166609onionsan makes you miss some of the cute kris and susie interactions, so it might be for the best
>>530166608That just means Kris knows (or thinks they know) the Knight's identity, not that they've actually seen the Knight remove its helmet before.
>>530166609your not playing the game right
>>530166909okay, now you make the Asriel Knight theory sound like pure garbage and "le subversive"
>>530166909okay? your presumption's now "asriel came home early without telling anyone and this isn't mentioned or hinted at all"
still a fucking presumption at the end of the day
>>530167030jealous darkner hands wrote this post
>>530166786> Kris> heincel loser detected
fuck off back to /pol/
>>530167041how are cute kris and susie interactions a bad thing (hard mode: donโt say anything about Kriselle)
>>530167106>yourJackโฆ
>>530166982I'm sure he has a basic grasp on things like math, but he has no proof of education. Plus anything like geographic information would be completely missing, so he would have massive holes in his knowledge.
>>530165247I've already listened that shit a while ago.
10/10 fucking masterpiece.
It makes me laugh how Gaster starts
moaning for no reason.
>>530160274give her a bowl of studge
>>530166982His literacy is higher than Susie's.
who is sexier, asgore or rudy?
Toby will ruin Asriel and asrielcucks will seethe hard, I can't wait
>>530167198NTA but you read that post the opposite way
>>530167310heโs winging his ding
>>530167061>game spends every chapter directly revealing (you)r ability to astral project to see things you normally can't>astral project to the knight and see it removing the helmet>"n-no way guys this is totally just kris imagining things"nta but someone finally offers something other than dess with a decent argument for the first time in fucking weeks and you can't handle it lmao
The knight MUST be at least part Dess.
>>530167298that would be kinda sad
>ralsei becomes le real boyo>still has a lot to learn, so he's held back many grades compared to kris and susie>by the time they go to uni or otherwise, he's still having to catch up to them>probably will have to do 3-4 more formative years before he can be with them more often
>>530167410It's like he's in some king of... Trouble Dingle
>>530167414The knight's armor is Dess???
>>530167598>Ralsei caves in and becomes a lolcowthe only real ending for autistic characters
I think the Onionsan subplot will just end in a major hint about what you need to do for the good ending rather than being required for it. It doesn't seem load-bearing.
>>530167638>YoshiThank fucking god Asriel became a fiery magician girl main
>>530167701The game already has one too many twink gotes
>>530167414>nta>but anon presented a good argumentX
Anything calling Asriel the knight is not a good argument no matter what
I'm not a strict helmet denier, but I will say that if the knight is wearing a helmet then some of the only clues to their identity gets completely fucking removed and it could be anyone, including Papyrus (probably the worst candidate)
>Kris is canonically a manlet
I reject this vessel
>>530167673ralsei and his super cool oc frisk that he made for his comics, he even wears a medallion of its face at all times nowadays
>>530167678Onionsan will save you when Riverperson's boat sinks.
No Onionsan= save file bricked
In normal circumstances I'd say I feel for Kris but GET FUCKED HAHAHAHAHA
>>530167880imagine if noelle had to hide susieโs eggs to keep them safeโฆ where would she put themโฆ?
>>530167414Why would you "astral project" to the Knight at the exact moment they decided to randomly take their helmet off in the middle of a dark world? So far the imagination thing only works with Susie and Noelle (in the weird route), who are both linked to the SOUL in other ways. There's no reason to think that you can do it with the Knight. I'm not even a Dessfag, I just dislike the helmet argument everytime it comes up.
>>530167310He got his asshole stretched across time and space
>>530167886WHAT THE FUCK???? SUSIE IS TAKING DESS TO THE FESTIVAL?!?
>>530167867i feel like he has a good chance of becoming one of those chaotic good ones like ulillillia- oh wait thatโs gaster
>>530167846He's not short, Noelle just have a long head.
>>530167886after chapter 4 i'd say fuck kris but i still feel bad about not knowing who do they truly want to go to the festival with
>>530168016Dess is not a pedophile.
>>530167846The vessel is shorter than Kris by like a single pixel, so your only choice for a backup option is Noelle
>>530168074Kris is asexual you freak. Stop being such a bigot
God I wish this fluffy tummy existed for me to rest my head on
post art of noelle with an accurately long head
>>530167886*Kris will ride with me
>>530168091>''carol we understand that you're the major and everything but just denying it after we found the 2 hour homemade video of your kid bouncing on kris's lap ontop of asriel's bed until he's crying isn't gonna cut it''>''oh, it actually did, well time to cuck asgore''
so the theme is chapter 5 is going to be festival themed, right? What do you predict the NPCs and enemies are going to be?
>>530167986yeah that's what i don't get with that argument, why would the knight coincidentally be taking off their helmet at the EXACT moment kris goes to look at them?
and plus, how does interrupting it with a thought of jockington mean it wasn't also a thought? if anything, disrupting a train of thought with a different one makes it sound MORE like you were forcing kris to imagine the knight 'taking off their helmet' than kris being able to disrupt a projection with a simple bit of imagination
>>530167886When you think about it Kris is destined to be the third wheel if he keeps hanging around Noelle and Susie, who are his only friends. Poor fuck.
>Kris appears to be working with the Knight
>Everyone here hates them now and wants what's worse for them
>Even though if both Susie and Ralsei get SWOONed, they start doing more damage to the Knight
>And triple trucies are foreshadowed in Chapter 2
i love my kris
>the sound when castletown, or some other dark worlds fade in after jumping in, is snd_him_quick
What the fuck does that mean?
>>530168301I want to see ghost mettaton and papyrus.
>>530168301lots of fattening foods and all of the characters will get really fat and stinky
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>>530168142i'll bite incase you're about to say this is bait, but even if it's not a romantic thing i still want to know who does kris want to go with
maybe hang out with susie or noelle specifically for whatever reason kris has, or after mellowing out to ralsei kris wants to bring him one way or the other
i'm curious about that, specifically
>>530165247It just keeps going
>yellow stars (save points) appear in multiple spaces in every timeline (across time and space)
>appears in a room with a WINGed enemy after DINGing a bell
Gaster is Starwalker
https://files.catbox.moe/4c4ntz.mp4
>>530168301Bell strongman with a huge hammer is a 100% lock
>>530168503BUT WHAT DOES IT MEAN
>>530167638>*Sigh* not even home five minutes and she's already barking orders at me.
>>530168373anon... that's a general mechanic... if a party member croaks, the others deal more damage...
>>530168480These theories are Pissing me off
>>530168436i donโt know if itโs any better or worse than the Baldiโs Basics one that gets trapped in the pre-chorus for like 10 minutes
>>530167886Iโve seen multiple posts from Krusie supporters about this but thereโs nothing that suggests Kris is jealous of Susie and Noelleโs relationship at all. Kris is too preoccupied with helping Carol/the Knight and fighting off the soul
>>530168353>Kris finally connects with someone and his life regains happiness and meaning.>Noelle, seeing that Kris finally opened up her crush she never dared talk to, uses him to get closer to her and makes sure she's with her only and doesn't make time for Kris.
>>530168373Can't wait to kick the knight's ass and break their truce. I know Kris is being manipulated but he's still a dumbass for getting entangled in their roaring bullshit.
>>530168301i don't think we can open up a dark world outdoors (light fucks over darkworlds and all that, must be why it's only done indoors) but knowing toby that may change soon
i expect there to be a festival section followed by a darkworld section, or maybe vice-versa
the darkworld may be on asgore's flowershop, specifically the back, we know that there's a backdoor to asgore's shop, so maybe we enter through there and the last stretch to the bossfight will end up being the 7 flowers he has saved up?
i missed starwalker on my first playthrough
>>530164607Girls that stink good
>>530168301I predict that the other holiday decorations that bullied Jackenstein for being too scary will show up. They'll look like the cute head under Jack's mask on a much smaller body, and their personalities will be so utterly fucking heinous that Pippins will look saintly in comparison.
>>530168589https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEdoMoV4D6k
Noelle HAS to hear by Susie how her friends are cool.
That will be their date.
>>530167638he looks like a bearded loser named Alex from an indie RPG (and not the cool old guy)
>>530168146Soft, slightly plump gote tummy ...
>>530168353>who are his only friends
>>530168301i hope the TV in asgore's bedroom becomes a washed out version of tenna
fat and smelly
And also wearing nothing but slippers, underpants with red heart patterns, and a wife beater
>>530168301Realistic theory: some kind of winter wasteland, it's been hinted at since the wolf is hanging christmas shit and we have already gotten a peak when the dreemur front porch becomes a snowy land at the end of chapter 3.
Schizo theory: the whole town gets enveloped and it just becomes a mirror version of Undertale with every old character in their classic costume. Chapter 6 and 7 might be the flower shop or the Holiday manor and then the shelter.
>>530168618Kris reacts a lot to the Susie and Noelle talk. Enough that the SOUL escaped him.
>>530168618>thereโs nothing that suggests Kris is jealous of Susie and Noelleโs relationship at all.The lines that make Kris react during the Holiday mansion scenes indicate that, at the very least, Kris hearing Susie talk about their flirting is something particularly positive, and hearing Noelle throw them under the bus to get with Susie hurt in particular.
There is no spinning this positively, anon.
>>530168618doesn't he cringe a little when noelle starts talking shit about their friendship? suppose you could argue that's not necessarily out of jealousy but it definitely implies he's not above it all just because he's got other shit to worry about
isn't it that kris was thinking of the knight and they imagined the knight taking its helmet off, something it can do in reality, and kris stopped us from seeing what it looks like under the helmet? it's not that (You) actually saw the knight before kris cut us off, but that kris was imagining what they remember the knight actually looking like and cut us off before we could see what it looks like under the helmet from their memory
>>530167638>You are just like your fatherโฆ>HOW COULD YOU!? YOUโRE JUST LIKE HIM!
>>530168589>him_quickIt's probably just a version of one of the "him" tracks condensed into a second or so to sound spooky. Dark worlds are already associated with Gaster so it's not exactly news. Toby reuses assets all the time in inventive ways, sometimes they mean something and other times it means nothing.
>>530168910>mama why do you hate me im 5 i love you
>>530168874to be fair that's something you can skip if you move fast enough in the soul minigame, so i don't know if it will mean anything in the end
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHMHng7w1hQ
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>>530164268I think Toriel is a slut who jumps on the cock of a stranger she's only known for 2 days.
>>530168642Dark Worlds don't give a shit about sunlight. The issue is, darkness manifests as smoke. Smoke naturally fills the entire volume. It can't do that outdoors, it just dissipates.
>>530168910>HOW COULD YOU ASRIEL?>MY OWN SON SUFFERING TWINK DEATH!>*runs out of the room sobbing*
>>530168596All game mechanics definitely have lore involved. If a party member gets downed, the others deal more damage because they want to protect the downed party member.
Kris is dealing more damage after Susie and Ralsei get downed because they want to protect them.
>>530169042robocop.mp3 makes me cry to this day
Don't forget to kiss your tv today
>>530168301>Festival hanging around with lightners>Crucial shipping moments for Suselle/Kris Berdly whatever>Asgore's dark world family drama, potential plot dump about his and Carol's scheme>Potentially revealing the Knight's identity>Maybe something for Ralsei in the dark world>Possible crucial no going back moment in Weird route with an conclusion to all the Noelle mind breaking>Breaking point where Susie may discover Kris' betrayal>Premature end of the prophecy (Gerson never finished chapter 6)>Last shadow crystalAm I the only afraid there's way too much stuff going on in Chapter 5? All of this can't be fit in a single chapter
>>530169042why would kris do this
Noelle will seethe hard when she hears Susie only talking about Ralsei and she leave her, then Susie goes to CastleTown and pass the entire day with Ralsei.
>>530168871>something particularly positiveThat reaction is called "cringe" and it's the same one used for the ferris wheel part, so it doesn't seem positive.
i wonder if Mulberry Lane will be the name of an area in the flower shop dark world
>>530169115>deals more damage from Kris nerfing their own damage (the Knight also deals less damage to Kris)kek pranked
>>530138150necropost replying to soneone from 2am, but if toby does something like this, i would be completely and utterly fascinated. this is something that would begin to go into the realms of christian mysticism (ie the works of meister eckhart von hocheim - "...if you're frightened of dying you'll see devils tearing your life away. But if you've made your peace, then the devils are really angels, freeing you from the earth,") and also has truth etymologically/historically ("devil" and "divine" both sprout from the same root, "diva"; in many cultures, demons were just the gods that the people we fight with over there worship).
however, it would also go against a lot of what we can understand metaphysically/narratively about the real world, light world, and dark world - that being that light is synonymous with truth/realness (the brightest thing is the soul, which is YOU; truth is also synonymous with god in abrahamic tradition), and darkness is the removal of light so that you can begin to see things under a different lighting/perspective (fictionality - remove aspects of what is truth/real, you get a work of fiction, a lie that tells the truth a different way). the real world is the truest layer that interacts with deltarune, the light world is the second truest layer, and the dark world is the least true layer. beings from below cannot see that which is above without divine revelation (ie shadow crystals), and beings from above will always be capable more control over their existence and being more than beings from below. if the titans are spawned from darkest dark, and are also divine as (You) are divine, that would totally shatter this way of understanding this work (and fiction in general), which would be VERY, VERY INTERESTING
>Everyone always theorizing "When will Susie find out about Kris's plans?" "What will Susie do when she finds out?" "Will she be able to forgive Kris?"
>It actually won't matter because Susie is just going to ignore and turn on Kris on her own before that just because she'd rather spend time with Noelle.
>The friendship between Susie and Kris lasted a grand total of two days before she decided it was enough and she'd rather get some doe pussy now.
>The time when Kris finally has to decide between new friends and old promises won't even actually be a dilemma because Susie and Noelle will have pre-emptively ruined it.
Anyone remember the guy who posted his hairy butt last week
>>530167598That's a neat idea, real-boy-gone-wrong, but that angle doesn't work. He's clearly getting darkener retroactive knowledge same as anyone else.
you guys REALLY want Kris to kill himself
>>530169436Let's not remember that
>>530169202>Am I the only afraid there's way too much stuff going on in Chapter 5? All of this can't be fit in a single chapterlet's see
>Festival hanging around with lightners>Crucial shipping moments for Suselle/Kris Berdly whatever>Asgore's dark world family drama, potential plot dump about his and Carol's schemethat can fit all in a first light world section
>Potentially revealing the Knight's identityif it does happen at all
>Maybe something for Ralsei in the dark worldyeah, that and the dojo if we get anything there, some flavor text, but it shouldn't be awfully long
>Possible crucial no going back moment in Weird route with an conclusion to all the Noelle mind breakingthat can fit in the weird route instead of the main one, right?
>Breaking point where Susie may discover Kris' betrayalif at all, could work as a cliffhanger
>Premature end of the prophecy (Gerson never finished chapter 6)wouldn't that be for chapter 6?
>Last shadow crystalif we can even get to castletown post-darkworld
>>530169436I had moved on peaceably and had completely forgotten until I saw this post and remembered.
Thanks, cunt.
>>530169202>potentially revealing the Knight's identitylol no
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>>530167806This design plus queen's actual personality, with like some extra circuitry design mixed in would be great. Of course, Queen's design is still really good too.
>>530168373I don't understand why no one takes Ralsei's dialogue after that fight into consideration. Either Ralsei saw Kris stab Susie before stabbing him and that's why he asked "How could you", in which case the dialogue about it next would mean that once the excitement passed, Ralsei AGREED with Kris that it was necessary, Ralsei the single person most invested into sealing fountains, or... it just wasn't Kris.
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>>530169371>>The friendship between Susie and Kris lasted a grand total of two days before she decided it was enough and she'd rather get some doe pussy now.noelle aren't you a bit young to be on these kind of websites? i'm gonna tell your mom
>>530169202>All of this can't be fit in a single chapterYes it can
Weird route will just truncate events from the main route like it did back in chapter 2
Shadow crystal boss is just an optional sidequest
At least a few of the plot points you mentioned will be intertwined rather than competing for screentime
>>530168301The festival, Asgore's depression house, the whole town, or maybe the Holiday house.
>>530169334or, or, hear me out, Toby just put a bunch of cool looking visuals in his weeb game.
Jokes aside it's an interesting writeup. I've long noticed that the main party is associated with Darkness (with Susie's spells being categorized as Dark between Chapter 4 and beating Gerson, Ralsei being a darkner and Kris being generally shady) so there's clearly some sort of greater theming going on. After all the only act of light
no one will shed a tear for him
>>530169505I want him to do a triple gainer off the hospital roof
>>530169786just wait until tricky toby gives me a cliff to throw him off of
>>530169436i won't forget about the anon that edited it to look like a very shitty nude of tasque
>>530169785*after all, the only light-based attack the party can produce is born of (You), not them.
>>530169436>t. guy who posted his butt
>>530169786Toriel will be so much happier when that little creep is gone.
>>530169786That's why he'll cause the Roaring, and it will be justified.
The light world is real as our world. The Spamton value network happened in this world.
>>530169505He's siding with the knight and possibly endangering the world, is known to have violent thoughts and a desire to kill. He's a danger to everyone.
>>530169643People saying "how could you" wouldn't make sense if Ralsei said it to the knight, but Ralsei was JUST trying to reason with them and will continue to plead with them in the next chapter. It's a natural response for an emotional person who is already pleading, begging, and bargaining with someone to also have an emotional moral outburst when they potentially just killed someone.
chapter 0 leak (real)
https://files.catbox.moe/hsbi41.mp4
>>530169505Not while I'm in control of him, but yeah at some point that would be appreciated
>>530169841Right game because Tobert doesnโt have an original bone in his body.
>>530169952why can't i open dark fountains then anon
>>530169042Toxic yuri has nothing on this.
>>530169584i wont let you forget numbers
>>530170101You're not in hometown
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>>530170101you're just not believing hard enough.
>>530168910>The Binding of Asriel
Undyne moments after emptying an entire capsaicin cartridge into Alphysโ face
>>530169436More brave than any of you no-butt-pic-posting posters
>>530169785don't get me wrong, i don't think tobias foxworth XIV is trying to make deltarune some kinda of theological thesis, but there is still something fun to read out of all of this.
Take a body, dump it, drive. Take a body, maybe
your own, and dump it gently. All your dead,
unfinished selves and dump them gently. Take only
what you need. The machine of the world--if you
don't grab on, you begin to tremble. And if you do
grab on, then everything trembles. I spent my lamp
and cleft my head. Deep-wounded mind, I wasn't
doing anything with it anyway. And the birds looking
for a place to land. I would like to say something
about grace, and the brown corduroy thrift store coat
I bought for eight-fifty when you told me my
paintings were empty. Never finish a war without
starting another. I've seen your true face: the back
of your head. If you were walking away, keep walking.
>>530169436I won't forget you, buddy
has this site been shitting itself for anyone else in the past few days
like sometimes images just won't load
>>530169584did you shave yet?
>>530170375this but they're both 30 years older
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>>530170449why would i, i love being a hairy man
Has anyone paid attention to what is Susie's status at the end of Chapter 4 if she doesn't fight Gerson and become the Axe of Justice?
>>530170406Might just be you, I've only seen the site fuck up like that once and that's cuz I had dogshit signal
>>530170384that is awful why would you do that?
>>530170406yeah it's done that a few times for me too
>>530170530post it again i missed it
The Fun gang meet a new friend!
>>530168301>dark worlds in chapter 5ICE-E Pizzeria and QC restaurant both having fountains and the fun gang has to split up to close them asap. The last dark world is Flower King.
>NPCsCatti, Catty, Bratty, Jockington, QC, Berdly, Asgore and Alphys. Noelle is back as a party member. Potential of Berdly, Catti and Jockington joining as well.
>FestivalSusie got permabanned from the festival for vandalizing the church and Carol is pleased to present the Gerson note evidence. Normal route you comfort Susie and party with Ralsei. Weird route lets you enjoy the festival while Susie is seething at Kris and Noelle.
>>530170619>itโs another โonly good design is a guest contributionโ episode
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>>530170639sent, check your DMs
my boy pussy longs for meaty asgore gote cock
The thrist for Knight Dess is real
Kris will ruin everything he should've just let me take control and fix everything with my player smarts why are you like this broooooo
Reminder that Toriel has a history of partying and alcoholism, and Sans is a piece of shit for enabling her.
DUDE THIS CAR
THIS CAR KICKS ASS
AND MADAGASCAR
IS SO FUN
>>530170786I want him to be happy
>>530170795>the knight helmet was a darkified biker helmet all alongI see the vision.
Ralsei will get Stronger.
Dess is going to be furry Haruko Haruhara and you will like it
>>530170819Took a whole extra game for people to realize Torielโs always been a piece of shit and CHADgore did nothing wrong
>>530170807Teenage angst is a hell of a thing.
>>530169905Ralsei paradoxically can make the SOUL glow brighter during TP-restricted fights.
>>530170795>dess is actually completely fine, she just decided to hang out in the shelter for a few years in full black biker gearthese fucking reindeer, man
>>530170924You say that like it's something I'd have trouble liking.
>>530170935UUUUUUGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHH
UUUUUUUGGGHH MY FAVORITE GIRLS
UUUUUUGGGHH MANTLE FEET
MANTLE FEET UUUUUGH
AAAAAAAAAAA
>>530170924With pleasure.
Reminder that Asgore jumping out of the bushes and offering Toriel flowers right in front of Kris and Susie would be very reasonable grounds for a restraining order in real life
kris was the knight but took your position as the cage vessel, trying to derrail the prophecy and paint itself the first hero
doing weird route is (you) the angel undoing all of kris's progress and making sure the original prophecy is fullfilled
>>530169786Hmm, so Kris felt like he never fit in with anyone, his attempts at jokes fell flat, and thinks no one will miss him if he just disappears.
what happens when he comes back?
>>530170935KRIS GETS RAPED BY THEM AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH
>>530171210Prove it, I don't believe you
>>530170183Belief does not matter. Only determination does.
>>530170928So aside from the obvious well-meaning (but still crazy) kidnapping, what else makes her so bad in Undertale? I know the alarm clock dialogue, but what else happens in game?
>>530170795must be real fun squeezing those ears in, huh
>>530171210suck my nuts or false
>>530170928Asgore did some bad shit but Toriel as his wife (and ex-wife) is just as guilty. I don't know why this is even a discussion when they were in a RELATIONSHIP.
Toriel in both Deltarune and Undertale just noped the fuck out and chose to pretend everything was fine.
If Rudy is the knight that makes the post fight scene super erotic.
>>530171298She abandoned her people.
>>530166086>"next week">chapter 5 is sundayYeah that sounds exactly like something tobert would do actually
>>530171107Yeah Asgore is a cucked idiot who is asking for trouble, we know
Eggs-husband is still funny and Toriel is a cunt so who cares
>>530171273I'm an undertale fan
>>530170546it stays the same, no?
https://deltarune.wiki/w/Title
>>530171351I hope it is so that people scramble to justify all of the knight x kris art because they thought it was dess
https://youtu.be/ZHMHng7w1hQ?si=iE3Mw2y-5B1wZMBp Trip.
Sometimes... you have to FIGHT.
>>530171354Sent humans to die or become a murderer by not telling the whole truth about the barrier.
>>530171208>start of Ch5 all-recruits pacifist if you tell susie ''yes, games are fun''>you go to the king's cage and there's a pippins next to the lion cages>''we found this thing roaming around, we finally managed to catch it before it prickled anyone else''>inspecting it gives you the flavour text ''it seems agitated''>moving kris and pressing z makes the minikris move too, but it can't get out of the lion cage or hurt anyone>completing ch5 in pacifist with all recruits gives you the flavor text ''it seems remorseful''>not recruiting everyone leads to the pippins mentioning how it escaped and dissapeared, you can find a slashed controler next to the cage
>>530170935MY DIIIIIIIIIICK
>>530169436that week was back to back schizo meltdowns and all sorts of goofy shit, that shit's gonna be engraved into my mind for a long while
>>530171553ralsei if he had aura
>>530171298>quuen of world that is in the shitter>fuck off to a cottage forever
>>TOP 5 MOST RETARDED THEORIES
1. Friend Inside Me
2. Papyrus Knight
3. Goner Hand
4. Abusive Dess
5. Deltarune is a prequel (or sequel)
>>530171539whats the point of this
>>530171504That's not scrambling you retard, everyone does thing it's Dess. They think it right now. In the present time.
>>530171684any theory that does not center around the location of Dess is just wasting everyoneโs time
>>530171107Explain how meeting up by pure coincidence at a public space like the towns church while he happens to be carrying objects from his profession that he is always carrying and giving I mean selling to people would qualify for a restraining order?
>>530171609y'all got any of them pixels?
>>530165247The only good thing that came of this was British Susie. Otherwise, fuck you.
>>530169436His flabby disguising pathetic attention-whore butt? Nope, never saw it.
>>530171587Mini kris is literally (you) though
>>530169334I am that anon. In my opinion, the intermingling of fiction and reality is the key theme of Deltarune. I am not sure where exactly this theme will end up going, but, for example, Susie's character development happens because she sees the dark worlds as "real," while Noelle and Berdly both regress from their chapter 2 character development because they saw the dark world as "fake." The story seems fixated on the idea of integrating fiction into your life specifically as a means of connecting with others in reality: playing games together to make friends, watching TV to bond with your family (or to find your personal identity, as with Mettaton), attending church for the sense of community even if you don't personally believe in it. But it also takes this idea in a somewhat odd direction. For example, chapter 4 is not just themed around church, but around books too. Gerson based his books around something that's a blend of both "real" and "fake," and he's now literally inside of the story he was telling, or at least a version of it. Gaster also obviously connects to the idea of real people becoming fictionalized. The first and second sanctuaries have each other as mythologized ancestors, and then they blend into one in the third sanctuary. And of course you have the sword route, where a game character enters the next layer of reality while Kris enters the game reality, using the increased freedom of being a literal "big" shot to do things the game character couldn't, but Kris still views the game character as a serious threat. There's a lot more I can say about this stuff and how it relates to the heaven/hell and light/dark dichotomies, but suffice to say, this shit is all really interesting and I'm curious where Toby will take it in the end.
>>530171852>it's some form of you
>>530171609>andrew depicts his own mom as the hottest piece of ass in the universe and ultimately a kind soul with an alcohol problem>toby depicts andrewโs mom as a grinch-faced megacunt
Is there even a single hint in the game about Dess actually being the key to the plot? Or are we still on "Something important happened and we don't get told or shown where Dess is so obviously it's about her"?
>>530171783Harassment. He could get away with it one or two times, but it's implied that he's frequently "bumping" into Toriel to offer her flowers, if you judge by the state of her trashcan, which has flowers even if you never brought her his flowers.
Do you think toby "hypercuck" fox self insert as Noelle?
>>530169505I want to talk Kris out of suicide so I can get my angel wings
>>530171107People have been complaining about how writers portray Asgore for ages, Anon.
>>530171972wich one has more porn, andrew's mom forma de homestuck or forma de deltarune
>>530172038I want to make Kris suicidal and then prevent him from being able to ever do it.
Why did Toby patch out "degenerate"?
Susie went from calling Catty a "furry degenerate" to a "furry freak"
So the hand is the soul is the delta rune, right?
>>530171972If you donโt think Queen is just an expy of Roxy, I donโt know what to tell you
>>530171609y'know this theory may seem like an absurd meme and all but there's no reason why toby couldn't have subconsciously crafted the holiday and dreemurr family dynamic after his experiences as a young adult fresh in the creative business
for sure it was a very significant time in his life
as 714069345 put it
>4chinz is basically toby's therapist (...) considering how much we dissected (...) and connected it to his life at the time
>>530171973to be fair, if she wasn't relevant she wouldn't be lost, same applies for asriel at a greater degree
>>530172104If you count Roxy, Mom.
If you only count Mom Lalonde, Carol probably, and definitely will in short time if not already.
Fave real but they emit 50 tons of CO2 emissions every week.
>>530172278climate book schizoboss
>>530171176>One day, your mom's gonna get sick of you, you little freak. And as soon as that happens... Someone might make you disappear. And she'll finally realize how happy she was without you.>I know
>>530172278I'm pretty sure you would literally die in their presence in any closed environment
>>530172228Degenerate is a dog whistle
>>530172278we'll just increase their front and back size and classify them as a light fave
>>530172228The self-censoring is hella gay
>>530172257carol might even beat roxy too to be fair, it's not like homestuck's getting much more porn nowadays considering its current state doesn't exactly owe much to the idea of eroticism outside of getting dog dicked by jade i guess lol
>>530171684All of these?
True.
>>530172278Wouldn't that be enough to literally suffocate you even if you're just standing close to them outside
50 tons is a lot
>>530171176Damn, he just like me.
I LOVE TENNA!!! I LOVE TV!!!
>>530171208He doesn't come back. One of the cutscenes shows he disappears when the controller is unplugged.
fave but
but
...
i don't know man i don't FUCKING KNOW ANYMORE
>>530172494In time, yeah
But even normie porn sites have more roxy than carol atm by a few magnitudes
Ralsei is Asriel and Dess' love child theory.
>>530171504Knight x Kris art is too good already, it will just make people ship Krudy
Undyne is real and my wife theory
Oh wait theories are unproven
>>530172560there's a reason the toilet in the bathroom isn't seen as a darkner in chapter 3. they're gonna be the final boss
>>530172375>>I knowI am 99% convinced that was what Kris did say and what made Susie leave.
>>530172561Ralsei is Asrielโs and Krisโs shared cumsock theory
>>530172526Fave but they have fat greasy balls and HUGE sweaty asscheeks
>>530172560Hehe poopy theory
>>530172579God I hope so. I want to see Kris drink the darkness leaking out of his cock
>>530171973>lost, not stated to be dead>still receives multiple mentions or references each chapter>shelter code hidden in her guitarGoing outside the game,
>FINDHERShe's pretty obviously important to some degree. I'm not saying she is the knight, but anyone who denies Dess will be relevant just doesn't understand story setups worth a shit.
>>530171684Ralsei is Asriel's dust is easily in the top 5
>>530172715Dess is so relevant that Iโve already forgotten everyone elseโs name
>>530172390isn't whistleblowing a good thing?
>>530172228big word for the soozmeister
>>530172506Air is about 1kg/m^3, so they'd displace about 5 m^3 of air every minute.
Outside I think you'd probably be fine, especially if you were standing upwind of them, but you'd feel a noticeable breeze coming from them the whole time
In most closed rooms you'd be dead within an hour
>>530172228Too many syllables for Susie
>>530171502>Sheath>Breath quickens around swords.What did Toby mean by this
>>530172715Toby is truly Andrewโs child in that dess will either not matter at all or obnoxiously eclipse everything else
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>>530171973We are told by MKid and Snowy that something happened involving Kris and the Shelter, something that terrified Kris.
The Art Therapy room could infer that Kris has experienced something that requires therapy.
We are shown that Dess's guitar has a code for the Shelter.
We know that Dess is missing as Noelle's search history involves trying to find her.
This leads to the general idea that Kris and Dess entered the Shelter, something traumatic happened and only Kris managed to escape.
People want a motivation for Kris and the most obvious candidate would be something to do with trying to save Dess or bring her back.
Then there's all the allusions to lost children and a tail belonging to something bad.
"Lost where the forest would grow, the children followed the pointed tail"
"The tail which must not be followed."
"THEY'LL SEE THE TAIL OF HELL TAKE CRAWL."
Which may add to the theory having Kris and Dess be lead astray by something with a pointed tail.
>>530172806Noelle is already a homo, tragically
That Man on the Internet World Revolving cover has been stuck in my mind for years. I still can't remember the lyrics to Don't Forget unless I think for a few seconds, and whenever I hear that leitmotif in any other song I immediately think "YOUR WORLD'S A FANTASY"
That guy made only terrible covers except for World Revolving and Death by Glamour
>>530172000They live in the same small town, of course they would bump into each other frequently in public common spaces. He's the flower man, and offers flowers to everyone. You can't prove it's targeted or excessive behavior
>>530173008Kris killed Dess.
>>530172228Yeah, like the others said
Susie wouldn't use a word like that
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>>530172715she won't be relevant in normal route (not weird, not pacifist, not no-mercy)
>>530171973In game? No. The whole ARG centered around finding Dess though
>>530173008(You) are the sword and Kris is sheathing you. It means you traumatized Kris.
>>530173040The canon lyrics to The World Revolving are now about merging without looking.
>>530173008Kris is a "sheath" for my "sword" and starts to breathe quickly whenever they see it out of fear
I'm talking about the SOUL, by the way.
>>530173026This is art of the soul forcing Kris(girl) to rape Spamton, except that she seems to be into it
>>530173008Either kris is gay bottom, or Kris is female.
>>530172579barely related but krudy is such a shitty ship name
>>530173040By the Angel, keep that door closed or you'll kill us all
>>530173205You're the only one who saw it for the buttfucking joke it was and not a prompt for theorizing
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>>530173242yeah, it's pretty krudy.
>>530173026>unprotectedis this kris gonna give live birth or lay fertilized pipis
>>530173242there's not really a lot of good ship names for utdr tbdesu
i wish the community would be more like what the homestucks did back in the day and would give every ship a fitting name instead of just combining the two character's names
>>530173026how would tenna react to this?
>>530173265Damn, the one time I don't immediately think about sex with Kris, I get it wrong.
>>530173081Neither Susie would teach Ralsei OwO/UwU language, and yet that was not removed.
>>530173031Doesn't Noelles search history just have calendars of 1225? If she was searching for Dess, there are multiple holidays in December. If she was searching Krismas or imagining she married Krismas and they took her name she'd also get a bunch of calendars of 12/25
>>530173008It means he knows his role and will fulfill it the moment I have my vessel
>>530173375Algore is a pretty good one
Best UTDR ship, btw.
>>530173026The only good FemKris depiction.
>>530173238Hey that's my fetish, you can't just post that like that without any warning
>>530173457Susie is a closet cringelord which is why she gets along with Noelle. Her friendship with Kris will be destroyed once Kris finds out she likes anime.
>>530173410>HAHA...YEAH...UH...KRIS! SHOW THAT LITTLE MAILMAN WHAT HAPPENS TO THOSE WHO DON'T KEEP THEIR PART OF THE BARGAIN!...AHA...HA.... PLEASE DON'T HURT HIM ANYMORE HE HAD ENOUGH...
>hit my funny bone really badly
>arm hurts alot
>cant help but think of that one sans pun
this fuckin dude
>>530173306Rudy would make that joke
>>530172375You think she regrets this now?
>>530173489>but doesn't this argument stop making sense if I ignore the subtext and make some shit up?Well yes but they why should we bother talking to you?
>>530173375Like in Pokemon? AltoShipping, BodyslamShipping, PokeShipping, etc.
>what if the fungang & friends played spin the bottle?
>>530168874Incelle being a thirsty bitch that doesnโt care about their friendship was just hurtful in general.
>>530174059I'll use my SAVE powers to get the specific results I want
>>530174001You speedread the subtext
>>530174139would the game be rigged so berdly always kisses someone or so he never kisses anybody
>>530174059Susie would stop the bottle on Ralsei manually to tease him.
temmie is like 32 years old why is she in highschool
>>530173928She already regretted it when she saw Toriel with Kris. She got over it.
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he's a baaa
>>530174043nah man there would be names that describes the ship or at least stands for it like "rosemary" for rose x kanaya and "grimdorks" for john x rose
>>530174385Keeps failing the grade
>>530174362see this wouldn't be hot if ralsei tasted like doritos
>>530173278>>530173108>>530172592>>530172036How do I uninstall the Twitter extension from 4chan?
>>530174001who is "we"? you're on your own here, dude
>>530174252Everyone will kiss me
>>530174578now everyone has bumpy limps, congrats anon
>>530174578>You're blue now for an AMAZING REASON
why are all of you so gay? not insulting, just curious
>>530174129Noelle's feelings on her current relationship with Kris doesn't really have much to do with Susie though. She genuinely feels this way even in her own inner dialogue in Chapter 2 and on her private blog. We don't really know what cause their relationship to end up like this yet, their relationship is complicated.
>>530172901Is interception not a big word?
>>530174531Why... would he?
>>530174678Girls have cooties.
>>530174578what made the red man red?
>>530170185>Heโs so destructive and disturbed, just like his father! Look at who he has to look up to! Youโre drunk again, arenโt you?>Shut up Toriel, just SHUT UP! You just keep pushing me like this, Iโm leaving!>Good, LEAVE! Weโll be fine without you! Abandon us like you abandoned yourself!
>>530174678Being in this thread infected us with the gay. Now that (You) clicked on it you're infected too. It's terminal. Condolescences.
Why everyone hates sans now?
>>530174001>Toby Fox subverting your expectations with things that can be read in multiple ways? No way that could ever happen!
>>530173457>>530173712Total plot hole, we've seen how Susie lives, and we know the only videogame she's played is one she managed to snatch easily, she shouldn't have easy access to animes.
>>530174798That's how Nubert will look in the live action adaptation.
>>530174876because he's happy and all the negative nancys in the utdr community can't stand seeing someone be happy
>>530174535Hey it's toby related, it's more on-topic than a rando anon posting his butt.
Also thanks to twitter stalking we knew toby had ideas about a player character defy the player commands (kris) at least from 2014.
>>530174678i love men and i want a boyfriend
>>530174876He was always a jackass but in this game he no longer has the excuse of being the sole schizo aware of being in a game.
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>>530174678because asriel just looks different, anyone know how to describe asriels looks?
>>530174678fake news, i'm only a little gay
>>530174043>AltoShippingHuh, I somehow completely forgot that Ash once got it on with a Latias.
>>530174929She watched it in 240p on Youtube in the library the way god intended
I will never forgive toby fox
>>530174798He's worked at UNDERTALE for 10 years!
>>530175050This is a picture of Carol's haggy naked body.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRae3TyEFes
AWW FUCK
FAVE JUST PULLED SOMETHING IN THEIR NECK
GOD FUCK DAMN SHIT
>>530174710he doesn't, but imagine if he tasted like doritos instead of marshmallows or anything sweet
>>530174929Anon anyone can watch pirated anime much easier than videogames, it's like how third worlders engage with media
>>530174876because their parents are divorced
>>530174678but i am a biological female
>>530174876He's a total asshole to Kris for seemingly no reason and then goes and fucks his mom and eats his dinner.
>>530175154Looks like fave will have to be euthanized.
>>530175036What a coincidence. I too love men and want a boyfriend (monogamous, we will be a domestic dream couple with mutual physical abuse tendencies and get married after 6 months)
>>530175008He's trying to date the yellow Addison as rebound after the divorce
>>530174692Sheโs still shit talking Kris so she can get pussy. Sheโs scum.
>>530175154He's pulling out his wires
>>530175239Then you are a lesbian. No one is straight in this thread.
>>530175263okay but only if you take estrogen
I can't believe Toriel is canonically a whore in Deltarune. It's just insane to me
Imagine if Tenna did this in the game
>>530175394I'm canonically bisexual, Toby confirmed it
>>530174876Because he has been an asshole to Kris and Susie for no reason at all. Even in Undertale he was at least having a good laugh while kind of supporting the player. In here he nothing of those traits and seemengly exists to be an asshole.
>>530170819This is not the first time this has happened. Krisโ reaction speaks volumes.
what if fave offered you a cookie
>>530174692admittedly though there's a difference between 'not sure how to properly describe their relationship' and 'the whole thing was just because they were F O R C E D to be together by family'
no matter how i look at it noelle definitely feels like she's purposefully putting at least a little more of a negative spin to it so she looks more 'available' to susie
>>530174678I was molested as a child
>>530173238Oh that's
That's milking art of my comfort character
>>530175421You know what? I'll do it. I've already considered it (not because I'm trans but because I want to look like a girl)
>>530174692You guys keep bringing up how that opinion is genuine as an argument for why Noelle totally wasn't being an asshole for saying that and ignoring that she still didn't have to say it like that. If Noelle had regard for Kris as a person she appreciated on some level, even if it might not be friendship, her tone would have been different. She could have even, get this, just been sincere and told Susie that she knows Kris well but is just not sure if she'd call them a friend.
>>530175263>mutual physical abuse tendenciesNice try, dyke. I'll be escorting you off the premises now.
>>530175559>there's chalk in it
>>530175559I'd accept it and break it off into little pieces to see if there are any needles before eating
Little do I know that Fave simply poisoned the cookie
>>530175659Replace queen with spamton here
>>530174678I don't know I just like cock
also this
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>>530175537He straight up said he wouldโve murdered Frisk himself if he didnโt make that promise, and he didnโt really do anything.
>>530175678I can't be a dyke!!! I'm a guy!!!
I just really want to have someone I can randomly pin against the wall (with force) and tackle without warning
>>530175809https://files.catbox.moe/gygfqy.jpg
>>530175724If Gaster is so powerful why didn't he delete all the gay people from deltarune
>>530175559Not sure if I would trust to eat a cookie from Spamton, but will happily take it
>>530175892The last time he tried it only worked on him
>>530175841Oh you mean when he dines with you? I treated it as a joke especially if you are doing pacifist. Then again he did make a promise to Toriel so there's that. But yeah he has always been an asshole and it's only more apparent in Deltarune.
>>530175470Imagine if Tenna eats a really shrunken-down Spamton but Spamton crawls up into Tenna's head and starts controlling him like a mech.
>>530175491I actually met Toby Fox in a convenience store recently, where he just so happened to witness me being asked out by a cute girl. In response to this, he interjected that the girl should take care not to assume that I am a heterosexual. That's right. Toby Fox has confirmed me to canonically be queer. I didn't even know this beforehand, but I mean if I wasn't queer then he wouldn't have said it, right?
Anyway, I was incredibly weirded out by the interaction and left promptly and without a word.
>>530174678Girls are gross, GROSS and their cum is literally mostly piss, PISS
>>530176025i was the cashier and i witnessed this
>>530175970>Gay and homophobicLike clockwork, when will there be a straight homophobe out there?
>>530175612okay meet you in wisconsin within 5 days
>>530176025Please understand anon, Toby Fox was just trying to save you, since he knows every single hetero relationship in existence falls apart spectacularly and messily (unless it turns into a bisexual throuple).
>>530175981Oh, would Tenna try to get control over himself again while Spamton do various stuff?
>>530175659Queen WOULD be the one teaching Tenna all about the new technology
I kind of want someone to draw gaster and <my> vessel doing a waltz together
>>530176187Idk but I'm also gay and I hate fags, but I hate everyone in general
>>530176025i was talking to my friend once at my local bar, and toby fox came over
my friend was like "my friend here, he's a pretty cool dude" and toby said "yeah they seem nice"
so uh guess i'm canonically an enby now
>>530176187only a faggot would be this obsessed over gay people
>>530175980That definitely wasnโt a joke. He let the mask slip for a second, and backpedaled to save face. He was never a good guy.
i like when susie is drawn with canon proportions
>>530175809I really liked Queen telling King Lancer is ok, it's shown as a cutscene for us, but I like to think there's more meaning behind it we don't understand yet, like Queen is REALLY telling King, hey, don't worry about the Lightners, you know I know about certain things, don't worry, ALL things considered, I'm watching Lancer
Or I could be autistic and reading too much into it so *glitches and clips through thread*
I like when Spamton is drawn with a huge cock
i don't hate kris and company that much but if i had to kill a character as the only way to get my vessel back i'd do it, they gave me an offspring and they've only known the darkness of the void? get them outta there ASAP
>>530176413Geno route is what Sans deserves
>>530176325Kris is shorter than Ralsei. Why do artists consistently get it wrong?
>>530176529The vessel is not your fucking offspring anon, it's a meat suit. It's not alive. It has no brain. It's a fucking mannequin.
>>530176571short ralsei is cute
>>530176595why is rape 7 stars?
>>530176529I love my vessel so much I spent all night making out with him in my head, I wish Toby would stop cucking me
>>530176571cuz cute uwu femboy gote :3 i want to suck her gock lmao
>>530176540Heโs not even worth the effort it takes to get there.
>>530176505>y-yeah uh susie's snout would actually fit BETWEEN noelle's antlers so clearly she fits toby's idea the most and my ship is the most important andman i can feel the desperation just looking at the image
>>530176413I find his threat cute considering he should know that we would mess him up.
>>530176516i like that castle town isn't (very) static, citizens move between buildings, the castle keeps getting updated, new residents come, the relationship between characters grow (like that swatch that wants to work for roulx or the werewerewire and headhatty doing online dating) and if you leave and come back late at night lancer is having fun on his own while everyone else is either inside or at the cafe
>>530176667Are you questioning Pegasus' game design?
>>530176759No? Susie just hangs out with three friends.
>>530176637It has a mind, shaped to be a replica of our own.
Gaster asks us how we feel about it.
And yes, it may not truly be alive, but it is still our WONDERFUL CREATION. It is something we made. All authors, all creators, they should love their work, remember the joy of creating it. I will do anything for the vessel, as it would do anything for me.
>>530175559i would consider it an act of touching generosity, since fave is for all intents and purposes a gluttonous cunt
>>530176540>>530176752Kill Papyrus and spare anyone. You'll leave an ass blasted skeleton and he can't do shit about it.
>>530176637yellow human hands wrote this post
>>530176882...and only blushes when her head is on noelle's? come on man
>>530176732damn i fucked something up hang on
>>530176889>And yes, it may not truly be alive, but it is still our WONDERFUL CREATIONIt's not though, it's Gaster's. You just gave your opinion on what finishing touches to add. You didn't even make those finishing touches, you just picked from a bunch of pre-selected pieces.
>>530176916killing papyrus rigs you into queen undyne ending, right?
so either kill papyrus & undyne or just go for the dog ending at that point
>>530176745i don't know why, but this asgore reminds me of jack black
so there's 0 chance these two will show up in deltarune right
Bald vessel is worth 100000 krises
>>530176845I'm more questioning the ancient egyptian gods of card games, I suppose
>>530177138they already did anon, they're a 2 in 1 specil deal package
>>530176745Susie would say yeah but Kris would say Tch... Banjo is so LAME... Tch...
>>530177056I'm executive producer. I'm not here to micro-manage each individual hair.
(And you're contradicting the game itself)
>>530177138yellow and pink
Fave On
Apply directly to the Fave head
Fave On
Apply directly to the Fave head
Fave On
Apply directly to the Fave head
Fave On is available without a prescription at retailers nationwide.
>>530177110The more clear it becomes to me that Sans is just a straight up asshole the more wierded out I am by Papyrus in comparison being the most wholesome and sincere character.
>>530177138They're busy sucking my dick (Chara keeps biting my balls)
>>530162147Since Susie got lost for a second during the chase in the dark world, it's possible there was a handoff and the knight might be confined to the dark worlds with a lightner accomplice that opens fountains.
>>530177056chocolate covered hands wrote this post
>>530177327>he doesn't appreciate the chara nibbleshorrible partner, put your cool cowboy hat and gold locket in the nearest garbage can immediately
>>530177138there's zero chance they DON'T show up
toby was simultaneously planning deltarune while making undertale and he left the first game's lore vague voluntarily so he can fill the remaining questions in deltarune, chara or frisk WILL be asriel's roommate and will appear one way or the other
also she's not called anus
>>530177138* Despite everything, it's still you.
>>530177056And yet, Gaster himself calls it our creation and us its creator. It is our wonderful form, not his. Even if he made the templates, we're still the one who put it together, who gave it a name and purpose, who gave it a mind shaped like our own.
Even if Gaster helped us, he doesn't want the credit, he wants us to see the vessel as our creation, our wonderful body.
All that matters in the end, is that the vessel is ours. And I will do anything for it, as any creator would. No creator would abandon their work if they had the choice.
>>530177447everyone likes the chara nibbles until it punches its own jaw and pops both of your testicles
>>530177090dead toriel is what gets you an undyne military dictatorship. the state of papyrus only affects major neutral branches if every single other boss is dead (undyne, mettaton, toriel) as well.
>>530177447Friend inside me
>>530177312He has a strong frame of reference of how NOT to act. The funnier thing is how Sans seems to have a ton of friends around Snowdin, and Papyrus is incredibly unpopular.
>>530176745WHEN YOU'RE DUELING WITH THE KNIGHT-
>>530177327>chara>obedientShe is a whore. I would take Kris any day.
>>530177327Kris is a terrible partner.
>>530177138You're forgetting that "Chara" is just a placeholder name.
Kris is basically Chara if he was adopted much, much earlier, Asriel was much older, Holidays existed to patch the holes in Dreemurrs' parenting, and he got therapy.
>>530177728enjoy getting your dick biten off
>>530176813Same
>Lancer doing the conga>Susie carrying Lancer around>people just decorating the mannequin
>>530167182At this point I don't know if people pretend to be pissed about it for the memes or they genuinely see red when someone calls a boy "he"
The Dreemurrs are terrible alcoholics. Toriel will attend the festival with a hangover only cured by getting drunk again. Asgore will throw beer bottles at Kris during his boss fight. Asriel will die in a drunk driving accident on his drive home.
Why is this general just full of anons who take every plot twist and every character reveal like a personal affront and the dev attacking them irl?
Why are you even playing something like Deltarune if you hate this kind of stuff so much?
>>530177456part of me thinks undertale is a sequel and frisk and chara are just the split personalities of kris
but i also think i'm retarded and i just wanna see frisk and chara watch scary movies with asriel in college
>>530176759 Why do you fucking care so much about the fact the artist ships suselle?
Tenna bouncing on my cock
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>>530177647Asriel take off that silly makeup
>>530177138>Kris, why don't you ever talk about that hole you fell into...?
if kris is a boy he lost the vcard with dess
if kris is a girl she lost the vcard with asriel
simple as
>>530177902Kris is already a teenage drinker
>>530178050Kris takes after Toriel
>>530177928People on here are generally mentally unwell in some way. Even more so than the people they claim to despise. Itโs all projection in a way.
>>530178050Kris lost it to Asriel either way
rudy is the knight, he bathes himself in sharpie ink every time he has to go into the dark world and that's why he's stuck in the hospital most of the time
>>530178050This but both asriel
>>530177930it will happen someday if you desire it hard enough
>>530178050This but both Asriel and then he pimped Kris out to his gf
>>530175154Are you my dad?
Church has juice because it's part of the Eucharist.
Why the hell does the monster religion have it for some reason?
>>530177928IDK what rock you've been under, but rabid fans are nothing new in any part of the internet.
As for your second question, it's because people care so much that they get so mad. Kinda stupid I know, but if they didn't care, they wouldn't get mad when stuff like that happened.
>>530178050This but both dess
>>530178182you already know that susie would think sharpies give you cool ass dark powers if she learned that and start doing it too
>>530178167>>530178196>>530178240first asriel, then dess
there was blood in both scenarios
kris still enjoyed it, but deeper down, hates itself for it every day
>>530177873ERAM's comments about the knife growing dull make me wonder if he isn't secretly Chara after actually "moving on to the next world". It would be pretty neat if it was them after being free of the player's control for a while and realizing he doesn't like murderhoboing after all.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h65b74Pn128
>Chapter 6 will be about the festival, and everyone in town is gonna be there
>Sans goes with Toriel and they both have fun, much to Kris' discomfort
>Asgore sees this and is quietly heartbroken, but says nothing
>Festival shit happens, Kris ends up going to Asgore's shop because plot (and to get some breathing room)
>Sans shows up and starts talking to Kris, initially seeming sympathetic to the fact that Kris is upset that he and Toriel are together...
>...until he blatantly says he doesn't care and calls Kris clingy and pathetic for not being happy for his mom, capped off with an extremely harsh "you aren't even her real kid" (which serves as a metanarrative jab at the audience getting mad at Sans for the dancing scene, but also as an incredibly cruel statement in-universe)
>Just as Sans is about to leave to get back to Toriel, Asgore comes out from the back room, head down and obviously furious.
>"I heard everything."
>Cuck sadness quickly morphs to fatherly rage as Asgore finally decides to kick the ass of the skeleton who stole his eggs wife and hurt his son.
I know we're still at the HALFWAY POINT with deltarune but I feel toby hit more often than not with the original undertale ost while deltarune has a lot of misses
it's not that they're bad per se just forgettable background music
>>530178332No. Just Asriel. Kris never did anything sexual with December.
>>530178332>itselfI thought we had already pinned down that Kris ISN'T the Knight
>>530175583Its just like like my kris fanfictions!
>>530178379>>Chapter 6 will be about the festivalwh
where did chapter 5 go
>>530178269Yes, son.
Bring me more ibuprofen and the massage gun.
>>530178050terrible terrible take
>>530178515No shit Sherlock
>>530178584Never happened
>>530178050is it crazy to say kris and dess might've done some 'exploring' while they were exploring? i don't think so
azzy though? ya gotta put your dick away, anon
>>530178526Chapter 5 will be a solo Dark World in Kris' bedroom at night.
>>530178381Chapter 5 is the end. The "halfway point" is a subtle foreshadowing for chapter 5 being 14 hours of content
>>530178379Jeez sans really is an asshole, isnโt he
How much you wanna bet after dark world stuff sans is gonna start acting be more like his UT counterpart (if he doesnโt dip to UT entirely)
>>530178515That track plays everytime I prove an anon wrong, so it's meta and general canon
>>530178739hey that actually sounds nice
>>530178921>snowgrave gives us two wivesCan we STOP winning?
>>530178568And Kris was so terrible at it they only had him one time?
What a useless piece of shit, I hope he hangs himself.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSxjaG5HN9o
>>530178379Toriel would continue to defend Sans if he did this.
>>530172330i am perhpsa too drunk to be in this thread at this time of hour
>DARE to DREAM
>>530179028God you people are awful.
Reminder that Toby Fox is as chronically online as you are and will ALWAYS find a way to subvert your expectations
>>530178921torn by Noelle's doecock
>>530179028vessel posting from shelter wifi
>>530178886Fanfiction thoughbeit
>>530179109yeah, i sure am
>>530179109>do you think even the best /utg/ poster can change?
>>530178568When everyone kept talking about the tea greentext, I thought it was going to be something absolutely horrible. This is some simple stuff, all things considered.
>>530179067the black knife part is pure schizophrenia, the absence of the motif there is obviously deliberate
>>530179109Imagine getting traumatized by funky funtimes lmao
>>530179241people really love to overexaggerate when it comes to moldesster shit
>>530178568Why is Azzy +10 while Dess is +180
>>530179332I would do this and then come to learn that I gave my french virginity away to rudy or the embodiment of fear itself
>>530179332What do its lips taste like?
>>530178153That reminds me of one of the sentences I first read when I started to browse 4chan (and that was before the 10s so shit wasn't even that bad yet) that has stuck with me forever, which was that "Autists hate nothing more in this world than people who also have autism but express it slightly different from them".
I've seen that take validated so fucking frequently and consistently throughout my life that I feel I should print it and put it on a frame.
>>530178921Why is Noel dressed like that did Kris convince him
>>530179332oh yeah come here bby
imagine if kris was anxious about asriel coming back not because kris misses him but because they dread asriel being with them again
then again, asriel is a good brother so i doubt that's the case
I genuinely think the angel has to be the player because if the player isn't the angel it means the final boss is going to be "Noelle God of Hyperdeath" or some shit even thought we already had a fight based on Asriel God of Hyperdeath (Knight)
Not to say the knight is asriel but that they are similar enough that I'd be disappointed if the final final fight is just... God of Hyperdeath for the third time.
>>530179414Kris's favorite booth!
>>530179109You haven't even seen my final form
>>530178568>>530179148>>530179414Please, don't do this. Kris doesn't deserve this
Kris will only get happy if Asriel and Dess came back.
>>530179320The difference is lack of consent and differences in age, though given how this general acts I wouldnโt expect (You) to take that into account.
>>530179109That's what makes it so good
Kris will only get erect if Dess came back.
>>530179710hey now, there's nothing inherently rapey about kris getting fucked by noelle's big doecock
>>530179782You are such a noble soul. Please continue defending these fictional characters
>>530179710yeah kris doesn't really deserve it and i'm one of the ones you just mentioned, i'm just jerkin' people's chains over here because i'm bored at work
>>530179710I agree. He doesnโt deserve to be loved by anyone.
>>530179710If Toby didn't want to invite the abuse fetishists, he shouldn't have made the player canonically mind control a fully aware Kris the entire game
>>530178381There is such a thing as an artist reaching their peak and not being able to match it again. DR's music is still nothing to scoff at.
>>530178756It's Act 6 all over again....
>>530179564The angel's identity really depends on whether the prophecy has people in mind for each role or if it's a "first come, first serve" situation. Well, that reminds me, Undertale also has a prophecy and I'm curious how much Deltarune's prophecy can map onto the setting of the former.
Mettaton definitely could count as a lord of screens, for instance.
>>530179893i can't believe you're yankin chains in /utg/, i thought we were all serious all the time!
>>530179880Anon if you just did this in private I would have no issue, however your bring very annoying about it and shutting up the board, so stop.
>>530179563i coukd see kris not wanting asriel to be back because of the feeling of being in asriel's shadow, but not because kris dreads asriel's presence. if that makes sense.
>>530179782Consent is already a liberal construct bro, consent for fictional characters from a wacky wahoo furry rape RPG is a SUPER liberal construct
>>530180226Kris being jealous of Asriel could count for the second part of Gerson's chapter 5 tease.
>>530179318It's not schizo when they're showing their reasoning, but you're right, it's more deliberate than coincidental
>>530179935That's not love.
>>530180276>Consent is already a liberal construct bro.Wtf are you talking about? imagine saying this to any normal person.
> consent for fictional characters from a wacky wahoo furry rape RPG is a SUPER liberal constructItโs not a wacky wahoo furry rape RPG you fucking tourist, but fair.
>>530180278Asgore is literally raping Kris by not respecting their preference to not be hugged.
>>530180278Wait 'til this guy finds out he's a boss in Undertale!
>>530180276>>530180423Youre both trolling right?
Really organic discussion we have going on today
>>530180351>chapter 5>Asriel comes back>everyone likes him>even Susie thinks Asriel is cool >Kris just looking down the whole time
Imagine fucking Tenna up the ass
>>530180276What If I touched you without your consent, what then?
what faves u got BTICH
havels fave
fave of favor and protection
ANYTING YOU COULD EVER WANT
>>530180516>>530180506its funny to think that the asgore truck memes effected someone this bad
>>530180542Between Spamton and Tenna, which one would is more likely to shitpost about how grooming is good, and which one would shitpost about how the other is problematic for posting about grooming?
>>530180407Of course it is. Azzy and Dess are just showing how much they love Kris. They wouldnโt do that for anyone other than their little buddy.
>>530180535I honest to god wish I was. But some people on here are beyond rape fetish people are straight up mentally broken enough they think consent is made up by โda wokesโ instead of just, you know, a normal ass part of human experience
>>530180506it's weird to me Asgore says
>I forgot if you don't like hugs like that.instead of
>I forgot that you don't like hugs like that.
>>530180276No, quite literally every society has a concept of consent. Unless you create a legal system where personal choice literally doesn't exist, the concept of consent will continue to persist.
>>530180789Never in my life
>>530179457>the embodiment of fear itselfthta's hot
Maybe Ralsei's response when you solve the piano puzzles without finding the notes isn't a "I know you know," but him thinking the player is replaying the game and is glad they're spending more time with him.
>>530180856If toby didn't like it, he'd stop writing them to be so compatible
>>530180673If the cuck king improved your mental health, you have some serious problems.
Susie will kill Dess and set Kris free.
>>530179949stop posting that dess picture it's so fucking ugly she looks like a black hag
this is why you don't want a fanbase of raped or with divorced parents.
>>530180941Or maybe Kris really is a prophecy-knower
>>530180278Is King evil? Is Queen evil? Is Tenna evil?
>>530180939>the embodiment of fear itselfthat's cool as shit though man, why would you NOT want to be able to say you hit first base with an embodied concept?
>>530180969I'm annoyed with how the word "cuck" has changed from meaning someone who gets off to their wife emasculating them to any guy whos ex dates another person
>>530181045You mean Susie will kill Kris to set Dess free because Noelle's sister's life is more valuable.
>>530180791Good lord that's vile. Well done. Seek help and God.
Come to think of it, why would Ralsei be prophecy-aware?
>>530181131brother this is friendly fire
>>530180535Couldn't be me
>>530178921>female KrisCanon
>>530181264ah shit i clicked the wrong post
>>530181131meant for
>>530179457
>>530181045>>530181236damn, there really is no happy ending
>>530181082>Is King evil?Unambiguously yes
>Is Queen evil? Not really
>Is Tenna evil?More yes than no
Toby goons on vtubers with underage appearance, we should cancel him
>>530180774spamton and tenna respectively, kind of a dumb question though. we know which one of them incited a kid into mass cryocide
>>530181348There is. Susie, Noelle and Dess live happily ever after. Kris dying is not a hamper in it at all. Even Toriel will be happier.
100% convinced that these flowers are from Toriel's wedding bouquet, 90% sure that the "climate" line means the Dreemur family lived somewhere else before Hometown.
>>530180928Nah that's not true
>>530181372tenna is far less evil then queen
>>530168146Is rubbing a monster's tummy sexual for them? Or relaxing/soothing?
>>530181045this battle NEEDS to happen if dess is the knight, the tomboy of kris' past versus the tomboy of kris' present
>>530181448He should start grooming teens
>>530181603Monsters aren't mammals so no
>>530181603Y'all need CONSENT for that kind of discussion, y'hear?
>>530181474Why do you hate Kris so much?
>>530180914>yeah, i know he murdered a bunch of children and burned some alive with fire magic, but he's really helped me out with my mental health, bro
>>530181743fish reptiles birds and even some insects have all been recorded enjoying being rubbed and pet so i dont know what your talking about
>>530181081I don't think a tween could remember everything that happens in the prophecy, including the puzzle answers.
Inputting the parental lock puzzle answers in chapter 3 doesn't elicit a response from Ralsei,
>You entered the numbers knowingly.so in that case he might assume Kris knows it from figuring out the parental lock in the light world.
>>530181743A lot of monsters are certainly mammals. It's easier to list monsters who aren't mammals
>but dustWe know Susie and Noelle bleed, therefore they have internal organs and crap. It's just that monsters' substance reverts to dust when they die, while humans remain flesh
>>530181541The queen literally just lets noelle do whatever she wants
The moment noelle stops being a complete fucking pussy and actually tells the queen what she wants she's allowed to leave
Tenna traps the fun gang entirely for his own attention, and keeps toriel as a hostage to force them to stay.
The only plausible defence for Tenna is that he was clearly blackmailed into doing that by Kris/the knight, but he was clearly also acting in his own interests as well
>>530167806This works really well in a different context to the Librarby computer suite. Maybe in Catti's basement where she keeps her DnD manuals and LARPING gear, plus bdsm stuff and black magic grimoires - this would be her snake-themed dagger brought to life as a gorgon priestess.
>>530181261he is something special, as he's a darkner related to the dark fountain that's in the THE ANGEL BANISHED SHALL FINALLY MEET WITH ITS DESIRE slide
>>530182000the queen also forcibly shoves plugs into peoples faces and disfigures them, shoved spamton into acid,
both tenna and queen where really just trying to make their respective lightners happy but queen was defiently more sociopathic about it
>>530181994How long would it take a monster to realise if a human died?
>>530181626Bitch think she Nero
>>530181884I don't hate Kris. I'm just being consistent with what the game shows. Toriel is happier without Kris. Asriel is happier without Kris. Susie nailed it completely on the first go, Kris dying will make everyone happier. If Kris died and Dess came back, it'd be a net gain for Noelle. Kris wouldn't get to do any plans separate from the others as well. If they killed Kris right now, the story would reach a happy ending, and faster, only practical reason not to kill Kris right now is that there is a chance to just exchange them for Dess a bit later on and get something worthwile.
The question is if the characters will actually be willing to just completely finish fucking over Kris in the most definitive way for their own convenience.
>>530181476Maybe Asgore moved the family to be closer to the Holiday estate?
The Holiday marriage is pretty interesting to me.
Noelle implies Carol takes charge on the decorating which makes me believe she is the moneyed side of the family. Noelle also describes "Holiday family ninja style" in newest girl girl, and Carol is a ninja, so it seems like Holiday is Carol's maiden name? Which means Rudy took Carol's name.
So with that all in mind, what did Carol see in Rudy?
Is his sack game just that good?
Did she envision him as a stay at home dad?
Did Carol have parents or other family who were concerned about Rudy as a marriage candidate? That seems to be a thing more often in Old Money families. Non-old-money guys fight a very uphill battle to not be scene as a bum. How did Rudy manage, or did Carol just not give a fuck? How deep is her love for him then?
Many questions that will probably never be answered.
>>530182161>the queen also forcibly shoves plugs into peoples facesThey deserve it
>shoved spamton into acidalso deserved it
>both tenna and queen where really just trying to make their respective lightners happy Tenna only cared about making lightners happy if he was relevant to their happiness. Queen didn't care whether she lived or died so long as noelle was happy
>>530182245Ya know with the theory that Dess was the og prince in the prophecy, I could totally see Kris getting trapped in the bunker and becoming the knight instead, this leads to dess and asriel falling out. And in her shame dess goes to hide in the dark worlds, namely the castle town one. Much later vessel comes to town to save the world and along with Noelle they both fall into the closet and meet dess again. Cue ALPHARUNE
>>530168480>>530168598I love you guys so much
>>530180551>chapter 5>Asriel comes back>He's a literal God of Hyperdeath, floating with rainbow trail and stuff>Single-handedly stops The Roaring by One-Shotting all Titans>Goes back to college like nothing happened
Asgore = Toby's father
Toriel = Toby's mother
Kris = Toby himself
Asriel = Toby's brother
Susie = ???
Ralsei = ???
Sans = ???
Noelle = ???
Gaster = ???
>>530182406Noelle have a wallpaper depicting "a picture of a far-off, snowy city.", so that's a hint from where Holidays come from.
Man I wish I could draw outside of sprites
>>530185606just practice. most of learning art is just grinding.
>use 4chan for the first time to see Noelle rape posts
>It's all fucking Kris genitalia discourse
you people are useless. WHERE are the true doe rape freaks
>>530184641The Holidays are the Hussies
>>530186148It ebbs and flows
If someone posts some fanart or something it can start up again
Most of it is boring erp though
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>>530182603That wouldnโt happen, because Dess would be charging in head first without any regard for her safety to save Kris.
>>530159971Who cares, I like Kris booba
>>530173039She's totally straight.
>>530167182Look we've been treating you nicely but you'd make people happier if you just stop.
>>530172390My dad uses that word all the time, and so do I, no one ever had a problem with it.
>>530165247It seems almost an insult that it saves the best jokes for past the 10 minute mark.
>>530165149I wonder how many abusive relationships have had their start from Homestuck giving nerds a really bad idea of what makes a relationship work?
>>530180583I'd get over it the next day.
>>530159670 (OP)Just popped in to say I thought the OP image had giant nigger lips in the thumbnail
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