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>>532182564>WHAT IS HELLDIVERS 2?HELLDIVERS 2 is a 2024 crossplay, co-op, squad-based, PvE 3rd person shooter for PC, PS5 and XBox Series X/S where players fight against hordes of alien insects, robots and squids to Spread Democracyโข. Players wage war on a number of contested planets, each with a different environment, completing as many objectives as possible in a procedurally generated level while constrained by a time limit. With enough successful operations, a planet can be defended or liberated, and the player base must cooperate to try to liberate the entire galaxy by focusing and combining their efforts as much as possible.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/553850/HELLDIVERS_2/
https://www.playstation.com/en-us/games/helldivers-2/
https://www.xbox.com/en-us/games/store/helldivers-2/9mx9wn9dfpgt
>WHAT ABOUT THE FIRST HELLDIVERS GAME?Released in 2015 for PC, PS3/4 and PS Vita, the original HELLDIVERS is a shared screen top-down shooter in the same setting. Its mechanics were based primarily on Arrowhead's first game, Magicka.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/394510/HELLDIVERS_Dive_Harder_Edition/
https://www.playstation.com/en-us/games/helldivers/
>LOBBY HOSTINGhttps://files.catbox.moe/83ixkr.png
>MODDINGhttps://files.catbox.moe/c81ogo.png
>INFORMATION RESOURCEShttps://helldivers.wiki.gg/
https://helldiverscompanion.com/
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/1xA_wuSuV6NORqUCt1aZ203raG4HuUJ85btqmn0ld56U/htmlview
>MAJOR NEWSJul 02 Warbond Token https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/553850/view/516339785321679794
Jul 03 XBox release Aug 26 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTs9VDm4KAU
Jul 17 Control Group https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8FKZG2lPBw
>LATEST PATCHESJul 15 1.003.200 https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/553850/view/601909716088521243
Jul 16 1.003.201 https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/553850/view/516341688493408284
>SC farming
>car flips over
>pack of voteless surround it
>last thing I hear as I return to ship is my femdiver's screams
>end up fapping to the idea of her getting gang banged after I left
Am I a monster /hdg/?
>>532243585worse, you're a retard
>>532243585Yes, after all Super Earth are the real bad guys
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Honestly thinking about shelling out 250 SC for the heavy fire resistance armour just for the absolute insanity of strolling through my own napalm barrages with a flamethrower
>>532243736And then you realize that it doesn't do anything to stop you from getting one-shot by the napalm explosions themselves.
>>532243528 (OP)rare high quality OC as OP pic is based
Please refer to this guide before you join or make a /hdg/ lobby
Or else you will be put in the blacklist
>>532244017glad you appreciate it
making it gave me more fun than trying the new warbond items
>>532242643>>532242772>>532242852are you making sure to hit the head hitbox? aiming too low hits the tentacles
>>532244124nice job op, you're only a quasi-faggot
>>532244228how do you get that weapon menu?
>>532243736>dies to explosion damage
>>532244690Hold the reload button. You've never adjusted during modes or scope settings on a weapon before?
>>532243793thats what the shield backpack is for
>>532244868yes but i stopped playing for a few months and forgot, thank you
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>>532244031>orbital airburst>eagle rocket pods>pacifier>crutches
Warping into bunkers is so wonky. I can warp in 1st try but sometimes it will just not work at all
>put a plasma railgun in it and make it lame and gay
>dumbfuck retard swedes increase bleeding damage
>get hit
>no injuries
>health bar still white
>"teehee but now you're still bleeding how silly"
Crazy how nothing ever fucking works properly in this stupid game
>>532245798what armour were you wearing
democracy protects and the cop armours both prevent menstruation
>>532245798I wonder if they accounted for the healing tutorial. You know, where the spike stabs you and you start bleeding? Knowing AH the spike damage plus the tenfold increase of bleeding damage means you die before being able to stim.
>>532244031>>532245321It's honestly funnier trying to work out what's not on there. The MGs? Flamethrower? Hoverpack? Seems like every red and green is on there too lmfao.
>>532245798I don't like the bleeding damage change.
>get chest injury>out of stims and away from teammates >limping through battlefield while slowly bleeding out>searching for POIs while desperately trying to avoid getting hit>literally fighting for my life >finally find a box of stims when I'm below 10% healthThis only happened to me a couple times in hundreds of hours but it was kino as fuck and it will never happen again, because now you either stim immediately after a chest injury (which you would have done before the change anyway) or die in seconds. I understand why they changed it but I'm not a huge fan, I wish we'd bleed out slower.
>no patch today
actual dead game
>>532245043same but also eradicate
>>532246506>prevents bleeding>but you'll stim instantly anyway because chest injuries prevent you from regenerating staminaOne hell of a useless passive.
>>532244031please clarify if these are satirical or a genuine padded+lib+MG contrarian brainlet opinion
>>532246798Obviously satire, there's like 99% of AT stratagems in there.
>>532246920>no nadejust bring Thermite for AT bro
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Swede will give it to me or suffer the consequences (1 (one) negative review).
>>532247778chill bro it's coming right after the missile silo
>>532247778I already changed my review to negative after the shit warbond, buggy patch, rigged MO and them fucking off for 2 weeks to let the game rot
>>532247778NOOOOOOOOOO THAT'S REVIEW BOMBING
>>532247887based, I changed mine to negative back in January. don't rememebr what part of the game got destroyed at that time but it was pretty bad.
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odst warbond after justice wich is soon retards
>sw*ds on government mandated vacation
>joel not working on the galactic war for two weeks
does that mean we could retake a few planets while they are gone?
>>532248389>monkey's paw curls>it's all shit from after reach
Anyting sadder than bot divers?
>>532248752>cant even take MO planets>actually thinking thislmao
>>532249348>kill squidshere comes another failure boys
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h-huh?
>>532249427not just any squids
>>532249535Kill 10 000 000 what?
>>532249535>kill 3,750,000 LeviathansHahaha how about fuck you
>kill 10,000,000
>kill 10 000 000???
we getting a new faction?
>>5322495356 GORILLION BUGS IN 6 DAYS?! OY VEY
>>532249535>two failed MO's back to back>we will probably get a new week long failed MO next week toowhy THOUGH ever
It's wild how people wonder why we keep failing MOs or how a lot of people just stick to fucking bug planets
>>532248752no, he'll put one MO of capturing 3 planets and then another of holding those 3 planets (will fail due to needing to jerk off 5000000 high overseers)
>>532249535>kill 3.75 million LeviathansHoly fuck lmao
>>532249535dead on arrival MO?
>bugged MO kill count
can't these sw*ds do anything right
>>532249535>vhat should we do before we go on vaction sven?>put in another impossible MO hahaha
>>532249535>Leviathans show up as Unknown Automatons in the companion appThe Stingray and Levi really were just upcoming bot units that got reskinned for squids, weren't they
>>532249535>no patch for any of the broken shit>kill ALL of the leviathans goysCool, we can write this one off and drop where we want. What planets are good rn?
>>532250695more like
>What games are good rn?
I will not play illshitimate, I will not bot dive.
>>532250695>>532250695>Cool, we can write this one off and drop where we want.yeah no shit the MO literally tells you to fight all three factions
>>532251053with that plastic "fur"? fuck no
>>532251053Kill yourself nigger
What the fuck is this MO
Almost 4 million of the worst enemy AH created to date? The only people that can carry this MO are mindless chinks
>>532249535>Kill 10mcant even make a MO before going on a 2 week vacation, and people think the game isn't in maintenance mode.
>>532250668>he thinks the companion app is officialAs if AH was capable of explaining their gaylactic war properly lmao
>>532251151I wish pawdiver mods were higher quality...
>>532251159Sorry, but I'm likely whiter than you.
>>532251053If it has a penis (smaller than mine) yes
>>532249535They can't be fucking serious right? 3,750,00 LEVIATHANS??? Alexus did this.
>>532251278What if her penis is so small that it doesn't actually exist?
>>532251396ugh fiiiiiiiiiiine
>>532249535>about to leave for vacation>realize that the players might progress the galactic war without your permission>shit out an MO requiring an ungodly amount of kills for enemies that are rare, extremely durable, or have limited spawns>thus players will throw planet liberation by trying to farm kills>50 medals>leave for vacationBravo, Joel. Masterful bait.
>two weeks of failed MO since all of AH on vacation and we are not allowed to have any meaningful changes
welp see you fags in two weeks time to logg off for now
>>532251267>admits he browses redditoof
>they can't be bothered to fix a fucking spread number on the Epoch for 3 fucking weeks
Holy shit, someone genocide Sweden already...
>have no patch ready because literally no one at the office is working
>go, purple distraction cape!
masterful
When they reduce enemy count in the Series S patch it really is going to be the final nail isn't it.
>>532251624>not just easily guessing based off of its contents>actually admitting it came from redditYeesh
>>532251757Fixing the Epoch spread would introduce 4 new game breaking bugs and make the Eruptor stop working again, please understand
>>532251803>reduced enemy counts by half>to offset this, we tripled enemy health and quintupled enemy damage
>>532249535Lmao are they on drugs
>>532251803Oh no no no no
*wheeze*
>>532252135>all of the other kill orders will be fulfilled>except this one
Here's your Halo crossover bro
These fucking retards better give us a kill boost for every planet we take cause it's actually impossible, even with boosted player counts we wouldn't make it
>>532249535An MO perfectly designed for anyone who doubts that this shit is rigged.
>>532252294>6% of players on squidslmao no way we're winning this MO
>for the first time in a year and a half I am behind on medals
>a bunch of cosmetic shit in force of law not unlocked
>not even on the third page of control group yet
>AH releases a string of bullshit MOs and cucks me out of passive medal gain
Work harder you niggers. That goes for AH and (You).
>supply pack cuck runs solo
>snipe him with my trusty autochadnon
>he insta leaves
>look up his steam profile
>change my name and join him via steam in another mission
>kill him again
I unironically think they let Alexus play Joel while he's chained at the office, denied his vacation
So we're retaking lost bot planets and then we go back to push bot front some more to actually secure dss planets or what?
I finally reached 1k sc. do I get any of that sweaty anti tank emplacement/democracy akbar hellbomb/warp pack shit or do I give into my inner edgelord and pick viper commandos for the skull helm and muscly man/woman armor
>>532252449are you retarded? MOs are shit for medal collection, no wonder you're so behind on warbonds
>multiple threads on reddit already featuring comments about the 6 million
love to see it. I love to see the growing hate against AH even more on public forums, too
i wouldn't be surprised if they never actually make any changes or fixes to the game and the xbox release is a shitshow where we just get 3 weeks of bug MO's to try to make new divers happy and they're all boring or broken as fuck
>maximum security cities
>will just use the same assets as megacities
>probably only take 30 hours to defend instead of 24
Why should I care?
>same amount of helldivers on claorell and achird III
>same resistance
>one is advancing at 2%
>the other isn't moving at all
>>532252606You will take 1 planet and then Joel throws out 2 attacks to set us back
d10 any steam://joinlobby/553850/109775242847166884/76561198066017633
>>532244031>liberator>thermite >senator>b1>hmg>Eagle smoke>big shield thing>Laser sentryWho stole my layout
New player here, just got to level 5, mostly running around bug sector just getting familiar with the game. Iโve been using light armor since it lets me move faster, but are there any specific stratagems, armor, or weapons I should go after? I purchased the Gatling turret, EAT-17, the Redeemer, and the Punisher.
>>532245798The new bleedout is gonna kill so many people in the tutorial, because there is barely enough time between the explanation and the deployment of the stims for you to actually survive.
>>532253910democratic detonation
>>532252717democratic detonation
>>532253910Just get all of them, medium is better than light, heavy is better than all if you have the warp pack from the newest warbond
I would say get 500kg bomb, since you have EAT you could use a jump pack with it, or even a personal shield pack.
>>532254286Hes talking about literal stratagems not warbonds idiot hes level 5
>>532254428democratic detonation
>>532253910Recoilers rifle.
Machine gun sentry
Eagle strafing run
What ever you like
Use those until you are comfortable enough with game. Ss for armour. Use light extra padding or even b1 med armour.
>>532252945>a third of the playerbase on a single planet?>that'll be 0.8% liberation per hour sir.
>lobby set to public
>pick a mission
>no one ever joins
???
>>532252135Yeah they show up in my nightmares as well, fuck that objective.
>>532253910Quite frankly thats good enough to let you play bugs on the big boy dificulties if you're decent at the game and stick with your team
As for what to get, ship modules, you want to max those as soon as possible since they give very good bonuses to weapons and stratagems
Also Airstrikes are good but you'll learn to love Straffing Run
>>532254617Some summer inter in calculating progerss with Excel sheet
>>532254649Throw sos and stop driving squids or literally who planets
>>532253910>punisher>EAT-17you're ready for d10 super helldive desu, just reload as you shoot to become untouchable. I recommend supply pack
>>532253910democratic detonation, also the community is currently mad with arrowhead so don't participate on the illuminate or bot fronts.
>>532254649should've SOS it, tough luck bucko
>>532254720*with punisher
>>532253910Strafing run and the basic MG turret are very strong. So is the supply pack and the auto cannon.
Orbital failcannon is a noob trap.
>>532253910People have recommended you get Democratic Detonation, and for good reason - it's the best, most meta warbond gameplay-wise. However, I'd strongly advise you consider getting the latest warbond for one item only - the Warp Pack. It doesn't outshine the entirety of DD in the heat of battle or anything, but it completely revolutionizes the farming of the premium currency, which is arguably more valuable to a new player than any single gameplay-related item as it (eventually) grants you access to ALL of them.
What did they add to the water because people have started killing me constantly.
Fuckers shooting at robots through me.
Shooting grenades at bugs next to me.
Dropping orbitals behind me.
Throwing grenades at the point im running to.
What the hell man.
>>532255154It's so bizarre to me that strafing run is better than the other multishot plane strategems that will, for some reason, miss all their shots.
>>532253910As others said, strafing run is your friend. And as other said democratic detonation warbond is good and you might consider this your first warbond along steeled veterans. It has 4 weapons and 3 of them are really good, dominator on bots, breaker incendiary on bugs and senator is a revolver with heavy armor penetration and it's insanely accurate.
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>>532252092You joke but this is exactly what happened to Darktide to a T, and Darktide even runs on the same engine as Helldivers.
>>532255598what the fuck is the dominator
>look it up>there's a literal bolt gun in the gameI know what I'm getting.
I find it really weird that some premium warbonds contain nothing but a single primary and then a bunch of shitty recolors for the hellpods/FRV/mechs
What does "withdrawn in:" mean?
>>532253910If you get Democratic Detonation you're gonna have a good time but you might not enjoy what you get since you're trading off fast-firing weapons for slow-firing hard-hitters.
I never liked the Eruptor for firing once every business week and I would recommend you stick with filling out the free warbond and using anything you come across from other players instead - the Punisher is outright an S-tier gun alongside the regular Liberator and if you enjoy it you'll enjoy all of its brethren like the Plasma/Cookout variants.
If you want success try the Walking Barrage, it's king and beats out the 120/380 because you don't have to wait it out and can simply wait for the first 3 bombs to land before pushing forward, and isn't as punishing if you fuck up and drop it at your feet.
The MG sentry and the Gatling sentry also have the SAME ammo pool and fire the same bullet, but the MG sentry has a lower cooldown.
There's never anything wrong with not taking a backpack weapon, you can clear d10 with just a barrage, EAT, and two sentries.
Mix and match what you like, the default starting armor is actually insanely good for what it is because you get heavy protection but medium movespeed, so if you feel too weak as a light try them out and you might enjoy them a lot.
Keep picking up dead people's guns to try new things out, feel out the warbonds you want and don't make snap decisions. Sometimes you might have to make a hard one and buy a warbond for one gun (like the Senator) other times you might enjoy an entire bond.
Also, question for the thread. I've only played bots for weeks now. Have POI's disappeared for ALL factions? They don't show on the radar blip or if I wave my mouse around anymore.
>>532255980It's just the time before the liberation has decreased to 0.
>>532255980liberation progress dropping to 0%
>>532256121>>532256160oh wow
what the fuck joel
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>>532255867Yeah, some warbonds are barely worth getting. Say Urban Legends has one good armor and one good stratagem, and that's it basically. Except that one stratagem is basically the most destructive anti-tank measure you can get. Chemical Agents is basically useless warbond and Cutting Edge warbond is legitimately truly fucking worthless warbond.
But why are they killing their game?
>>532256187Yeah, over a third of players on one planet cannot beat a 0.6% decay rate
not rigged btw
>>532255985>Also, question for the thread. I've only played bots for weeks now. Have POI's disappeared for ALL factions?No?
>>532255867many retards dont like the Dominator because of its poor ergonomics and thats it. it doesnt matter how strong it is or its ability to overpen and doesnt have damage drop. having really heavy drag is enough to condemn it.
its one of the best guns in the game and universally good against every faction. arguably the only bad matchup it has is against predator strain but not many guns are good against them either. but you can drop predator and pred stalkers in just a few shots reliably.
Viper Commando armor if you need better ergo with angled foregrip for better ergo between shots, but if you like the burst fire mode, take the vertical grip. when you get good with the dominator and dont need peak physique to be good with it, you can upgrade to siege ready to give you more ammo and faster reloads.
>>532256187Keep in mind: Those values don't take into account the impact divers are having on cities.
>>532255482Part of it is AH being afraid to make books big enough. Strafing is just area of bullets. Its very realiable.
Another strengh its away from you. It's so easy and safe to use.
>>532256310>Cutting Edge warbond is legitimately truly fucking worthless warbond.Fuck no, the armors sure but the weapons are all good, the stun grenade is a good training wheel to learn enemies and the booster is ok until you learn how to kill shit quickly
>>532256310chem agents has the best grenade in the game thoughbeit
>>532256310I'm still assmad that the sterilizer and flamethrower are so shit.
>>532256324Who's going to stop them? It's a popular game, it's about to make mega bux on xbawx and there is no real competition to it. What are the majority of the playerbase going to go, EDF? Pic related?
>>532255985>Have POI's disappeared for ALL factions?No, they're there but MO planets are notorious for having less of them. I basically didn't get any SC on Oslo Station but I went and farmed SC today on Phact Bay in bug territory and got 800SC in an hour.
>>532256531I don't like the Dominator because of the weird way the bullets behave, I miss much more with the Jar than with any other precision weapon
>>532256310Cutting edge has localised confusion that breaks the deffence and eradicate missions. Otherwise it's useless.
i wasnt around for when they rolled out gas
does it do anything other than stun/slow
does it damage anything effectively?
also, looks like lasers ignite stuff now? was that always the case?
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>went from 0% resist to 0.63%
Nice "free planet" guys
>>532256838You thought you could liberate a non-MO planet? lmao
>>532256653Why is flamethrower Hollywood style butane torch. Not real liquid based
>>532256823
>>532256823it kills anything non heavy and it's also the only cc that works on fleshmobs that everyone loves to whine about
>>532256838I HATE JOEL
>I HATE JOELI HATE JOEL
>I HATE JOELI HATE JOEL
>I HATE JOEL
>>532256747thats partly arrowheads fault. gyrojet rounds have a velocity of 380m/s, but arrowhead coded all gyrojet weapons to have a velocity of 180m/s because fucking swedes are retards.
also how in the fuck does the Deadeye with its 8mm mauser round do fucking more damage than the Dominators 15mm phoenix round. swedes are truly sent as a punishment for fun.
>>532255985>Have POI's disappeared for ALL factions? They don't show on the radar blip or if I wave my mouse around anymore.That thing is notoriously buggy but if you've been playing megacity maps they have fuck all POIs in them so it could be that
>>532256838post achird 3 rate
>>532256823Gas confuses enemies, makes them wander and attack randomly, also damages pretty good.
It's apparently bugged to shit right now.
As for lasers I think they always did that but fire damage has been buffed recently.
>>532256823>also, looks like lasers ignite stuff now? was that always the case?technically yes but they had that stat turned so far down that you'd kill whatever you were shooting before setting them on fire, they fixed that some 6 months ago
>>532256572>42% of the population on Claorell is on the mega city>which means that a third of the population would be just doing 1.3% liberation per hour, not including the decay rate
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>>532256823gas does DOT damage like flames do, and they stack together. so gas grenades or gas strike or dog breath + torcher or cookout is a really good combo.
gas wont kill anything but light enemies quickly, but it does still do damage to medium and heavy enemies. many medium enemies can die to gas if they stay in it long enough.
Gas DOT damage used to be much better than fire DOTs but then they nerfed its damage when they gave it the confuse effect so it was a fair tradeoff. Gas grenades, dog breath and orbital gas strike are all really good against bugs and squids. its not as useful against bots but still effective against them especially on berzerker constellations.
gas mines are really good on defensive missions too like rocket defense.
>>532257586>joel adds a .62% decay to Julheim right as we start making movesi hate sweden i hate sweden
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>>532249535>assuming 50,000 divers (24hr peak) for the next week>every single active helldiver has to kill 13 leviathans>every day>for the next 6 days
>>532258042>or a few helldivers have to sit in a 40 minute long open terrain mission in some chairs and get to farmingthe issue is, will anyone pick up on this before it's too late
>>532258042I was saying that the developers don't know math the other day due to how they calculate weapons vs enemies. I stand vindicated.
A primary melee weapon should have ammo.
Reloadable fire sword chainsaw with propulsion and ranged attacks that explode in melee range.
>>532259095A primary melee weapon should have anti-tank 2.
>>532255980>>532256187>>532256374>>532256572It's due to the new mega city mechanic, missions on those don't contribute planet liberation but rather city progress, which has its own liberation contributions now
>>532259195>thermal lance >actively generates smoke cloud as you burn things>breaks enemy line of sight
>400 shriekers
>250 impalers
>200 ???
>125 striders
>150 fleshmobs
>75 leviathans
There's your quota for the week, get to work now.
>>532259628ive never seen any of those kinds of terminids
>>532257586>another reddit meme
>>532259797Never seen a shrieker?
>>532256838I was just on that planet wtf
kill all swedes
>>532255310This is the correct take, getting the warp pack SIGNIFICANTLY speeds up your SC farming which lets you get everything else faster. i can easiliy farm 1000 sc in an hour with the warp pack and frv
>>532259797The little bat guys and the tentacle monsters.
>>532259628I ain't doin' that
>>532259628But what is ????????
Is it "rigged"
>cant set enemies on fire unless im the host
thanks for going on vacation you lazy swedish FAGGOTS
>>532259628Your quota is 300 fleshmobs and 150 leviathans because I'm not fighting squids.
>>532260369All they had to do was hold onto the update until after vacation. I have never worked a job where you hand in material that may need changes and then fuck off to vacation.
>>532259804>i am depressed and i hate life
>>532260520>I have never worked a job where you hand in material that may need changes and then fuck off to vacation.Welcome to Europe, professionalism is highly optional here
reminder that orbital gatling barrage will shred leviathans in seconds
>>532260475Why does everyone hate squids just get a mg 43 and a cuck chair and rape everything
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>>532260942Because they're boring to fight, give fuck all weapon XP, have barely any objectives and I'd rather go to work during my free time than fight squids.
>>532260942They got filtered by levis and 'mobs so they cope by saying it's le BORING
>>532260942>just take the most boring weapons in the game and press m1 for, like, 10 seconds per enemyyeah, that's the problem.
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not rigged btw
>>532262049>cant even farm fleshmobs on low diff anymore
>>532259797Play difficulties over D5 and you'll see them
>>532261247I am shooting a machine gun at 850 RPM and mowing down 10 zombies per second, switching directions and looking around constantly while checking my map for niggers trying to rape me from behind, it's either peak adrenaline or peak fun, idk
>>532261673if destroying every single enemy in sight is boring then im the most boring player ever
>>532262210After doing that for 3 weeks on super earth, nah. If there still was the SAM sites or any kind of new shit to do in those missions, it would be different. The repel missions are fun though.
>>532262210Yeah, brainless "mowing down" cookie clicker tier "gameplay" doesn't do it for most people.
>>532262441they nerfed the repel missions btw
>>532262179i can barley solo level 3 dives
im old and bad at games and i hate matchmaking
???? Are probably the new war striders
>>532262708What did they nerfed?
>>5322620496 GORILLION FACTORY STRIDERS???? THEY ARE JEWS????
>>532263431Jews are grilling in Gaza, they are chill.
>>532263309they spawn in waves now and the mission is just easier
why are you people like this?
now i have to either wait for 5 minutes for my stuff to go off cooldown, or i need to walk aaaaall the way across the map wasting 5 minutes anyways.
WHOEVER'S CLOSEST, REINFORCES.
simple ettiquette.
>killfarming MO
WHERE LOBBIE
>>532263786nowhere
everybody has given up already
>>532263701...They always spawned in waves. The game doesn't immediately spawn a new ship the second one blows up, there always was a bit of downtime if you manage to take out a good amount of the ships before new ones spawned.
>>532264124just play the mission you'll get it, the waves take like 20 seconds to start and its like 5 ships per it's not continuous anymore
>>532262049anon, turn on the light
>>532259628Botdivers will have to kill 250 factory striders since unless there is a specific MO for it only HALF of the player base ever bot dives.
Even funnier is that the Squiddivers are an even smaller portion. If you assume 10% of the player base regularly play squids they have to kill almost 700 Leviathans to meet quota.
Hi, I'm late to the party.
Am I crazy or is the Epoch completely pointless garbage? High risk low reward. Something that takes two shots to kill a heavy should not blow up when you charge it for slightly long. I could understand if it had a "safe mode" which was a two shot kill, and you had the option of over charging it for a one shot kill, but as it is now it's garbage.
I get that the theme of this warbond is janky experimental weapons, but come on. It should at least be good enough to make me want to use it. There wasn't a single moment where I felt rewarded for engaging with and trying to master it's overcharge mechanic. Why would I use this when I can just use the Quasar which won't kill me, doesn't run out of ammunition, doesn't make me stop to reload, and simply requires me to manage its downtime?
>>532264330Well that's how I remember the super earth missions. Though if you kill like 2 and you take too long to take out the other ones, those two will get replaced.
>>532264452have you tried not using it as a quasar and instead using it as chaff clear
>>532264452Yes, it is complete garbage
>>532264538the things aoe is tiny
>>532264538>3-shot stationary reload support weapon to clear out chaff
>>532264452I find Epoch to be pretty good on bugs, love how I can snipe alphas and blow everything else around it to bits
>>532264538>chaff clearit cannot compete with GL, or even AC as chaff clear
>>532264452No its hot garbage, don't bother with it until they fix the accuracy
>>532264538if i wanted to poorly and inefficiently take out chaff i'd take the RR and put it on HE mode
Reminder that automatons are not, actually, automatons, but are instead brain-in-jar cyborgs.
>>532264538not even good at that neither because of the fuck all aoe and bad ammo economy
>>532264538>>532264895Or the arc thrower, or even the Airburst, which can clear out whole patrols in a single shot. It really serves no purpose as it is. It needs to be made into an alternative to the Quasar, but as it is, it's useless.
>reprimand was one of the first guns I leveled up because of the big performance changes it got both in the patch and from attachments
>loved the gun
>haven't used it since the weapon customization patch first came out because it's already level 25 and I need weapon xp with other weapons
lmao
>take dominator
>forget it's garbage
>die in situations where even a liberator would have been fine
>>532265848>spitter seedanon are you really trying to tell me that the epoch which takes 3 seconds to fire and 4 to reload (which is stationary) would do better than a nade launcher here?
>>532265848>GL but it only has three shots per mag and needs to charge for 3 seconds for every shotexplain how that's not dogshit
>>532265991And also a bit of AT capabilities, not as good as RR or Quasar, but that's the trade off for that type of multi-purpose function
Shreds charger armor which you can then use the Variable blast to finish it off
>>532265991>spitter seed>using the spitter extra damage from the explosionnow show it using on a non crutch normal bugs
>>532265848Congratulations, you accomplished something that numerous other support weapons can do better and faster. You have many choices already that can do what you're doing here, and better, but if you want a anti-tank solution without wearing a backpack in your support slot, you have only 1 choice. It needs to be improved and offer an alternative solution to the Quasar.
>>532266156I did consider that you can use it to take out a charger but if you try to use it as both chaff clear and anti tank you're gonna run out of ammo in a flash. it has 12 shots.
>>532265915>take the Dominator >try to use it like a liberator>failWhat the fuck did you expect?
Are you the same kind of retard who gets mad when he fires the eruptor or crossbow point-blank and it explodes killing you?
>>532266293To add to that, I don't think Epoch necessarily needs a damage buff, but I think it should have 16 shots. 4 per mag. Would make it much less awkward.
>>532266294I don't use it like a liberator, the point is that even in it's niche role of medium range bot killing, picking heads with a liberator is still more effective.
why the fuck do heavy devastators have better frontal protection than a hulk
why is their shield AP5 and a hulks body is AP4
why are they showcasing the laser sentry on bots and very clearly showing the sentry eat ass against a heavy dev
why are war striders cucked to one seed and not spawning like a regular "massive" enemy
lobby dobby doo
where are you?
>Shriekers already 3% done
>Impalers always show up on high difficulty
>Even striders can be farmed by just taking convoy missions
As usual it's the squid shit that will fuck the MO. I doubt that even 10000 Leviathans die in a week, let alone fucking 3.75 million
>>532267058The braille / white cum dots on the cape make it look bad.
The purple itself conflicts with every other colour available to our armory
>>532267058>braille (french language)>dcon dcon >the idiot the idiotNice cape
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775242860496625/76561198141817078
d10 squidders
>>532267276dcon is the app developer who made the station 81 thingy
>>532267413It's ironic, innit?
>>532266845they're socialists anon
Remember, the war is fair and not scripted
What pairs best with the warp pack?
>>532267413So what was the purpose behind it all? "Community engagement / interaction"?
>Well other game devs do it so why shouldnt we?The Invasion of SE by the Squids was predicted by literally anyone with cognitive functions, so really, what was their masterplan?
>>532267824>minigame to distract you and make you waste time That's it.
>>532267824do you hate fun anon
Im getting a new rig, how well will my game run with a 4080, 64gb of ram and 14th gen processor? Can I use max settings
>>532268056>discordtroons circlejerking>funStop eating dildoes for breakfast, perchance.
>>532267767Railgun or quasar.
>>532268056If I were to hate fun, I'd be employed in the balancing team of AH in an instant!
>>532268526you're right my bad
a little harmless community ARG event? pssssh thats for trannies amirite
>>532268862>ARG>AGPTrooncape status, fellow furdiver?
>>532267824>nooooo, arrowhead should just continue to shadow drop title updates because...>they just should okay!
>>532264452Epoch kills bile titans in 2 shots, chargers/impalers in 1
Like idk man, works for me
>>532269140Bro, the pawdivers and troondivers hate each other.
>>532268862helldivers 2 became a reddit tranny game just like deep rock galactic did
"a game for everyone is a game for no one", is the slogan of arrowhead, catering to whoever cries the loudest.
want to play the highest difficulty? heres your stratagems that will carry you no problem. you dont need skill or understand what makes your loadout good.
enemy too difficult? here, we nerfed them even more, now little timmy has no issue at all.
warbonds have less and less content over time but still charge you the same amount? pff, shut up, you can easily collect premium currency like a third world slave, for the privilege of complaining about it online.
galactic war? player driven? you will win and lose planets if joel wills it.
ill still play this piece of shit game because the COOP market is a fucking joke and theres not a lot of good shit out there where you can hop in, shoot some shit, and call it a day.
>>532269201Maybe It's better against bugs but I was not impressed with it on bots, and I went in with an open mind wanting to like it.
>>532264452No you're not crazy I don't know what the Swedes were smoking when they conceived this. It's like they took all the negatives from all the other AT weapons and rolled them into one weapon.
How is the Sickle?
I'm trying to put together a clone trooper loadout and I'm having trouble picking between plasma because it's blue or the pew pew lasers like the Talon and Sickle.
Also I don't like any of the fire resist armor so the DE is probably right out.
>This dogshit MO.
Well, at least the next festival for Monster Hunter Wilds is coming out tomorrow, which is a better distraction than this game for a week or two.
>>532270274Did they fix the performance? I was thinking of picking up milds just a few days ago but I "only" have a 3080 at 4gay.
Helldivers would sell more if it had sexo female armors but instead it's giving people androgynous at best "lean" diver.
>>532270150>how is the sicklei dunno, why not just try it out yourself and see for yourself?
the chantings on a mongolian throat-singing forum only mean so much when your own feelings towards a weapon matter most.
its alright. has shit accuracy at medium ranges and beyond, but does fine enough as a laser AR.
>>532270465I doubt performance will ever not be complete shit with that game, due to the engine.
>>532270150Sickles' meh, the double edged sickle is hot garbage
Just use the scythe or blitzer
>>532267707Swedes are on vacation. This is just shitty filler, like every other MO.
>>532270150Scorcher, full auto for that blue blaster rifle aesthetic
https://www.gamesradar.com/games/third-person-shooter/helldivers-2-devs-generate-a-bajillion-ideas-a-minute-but-arrowheads-ceo-uses-the-perfect-star-wars-line-to-explain-why-it-cant-bring-them-all-to-life/
>I need more men
Well you're the CEO, get on that.
>>532270274devs are on vacay for 2 weeks, expect another week-long filler MO after this one
>>532244031>Commando is a crutch somehow but EATs aren't
>>532267707>the point>your headwoooooooooooosh
the numbers are absolutely insane and unachievable
and we WILL clear this major order. because it's PROPAGANDA. super earth govt telling everyone we've killed this many to inspire confidence in the maximum security megacities to crack down on "dissidents" not fascist btw
What are the best primaries to bring to bots?
>>532270150>How is the Sickle?It's fun.
The only drawback is the delay that occurs just before you fire, but that's easily manageable. The sound it makes as it cools down amuses me, because when you're in a rhythm keeping it from overheating, I think it would like it's snoring.
*PEW PEW PEW PEW* *WHEEEEW*
*PEW PEW PEW PEW* *WHEEEEW*
*PEW PEW PEW PEW* *WHEEEEW*
>>532271353EATs are the first icon, anon.
The engineer girl didn't disappear because of "le voice actor strike" that makes literally no sense and if it were the case, all the other NPCs would have disappeared too.
She disappeared because she was a dissident.
>>532271583HMG + Supply Backpack
>>532271583Purifier, Eruptor, Scorcher, DCS, Deadeye
Honorable mentions: Scythe, Dickle, Tenderizer
>>532271583Just about anything is viable against bots if you can aim for weakspots. Shotguns are not so good unless its a city map where you regularly are close range.
>>532268454Yes 4080 should do more than fine for ultra settings 1440p but be warned that this games frame rate is inconsistent to put it politely, it basically changes patch by patch, also second by second.
>>532271583Literally anything that's accurate.
If you can pop heads you can dominate bots.
>>532271818I motion to add Diligence lite to honorable mentions because it's an outrageously efficient trooper popper with no recoil.
can i get a bot city that isn't the retarded incel bots please? thank you.
>Some people wanted another planet "plot" MO
This game's general population is retarded.
>>532272189I always forget about the Diligence, it's probably better than the Tenderizer desu
>>532270535I'm 200 creds short of a bond and still need to buy Borderline Justice for the Talon, otherwise I would. Eventually I'll pick up Cutting Edge anyway but I don't have the playtime to farm.
>spoilerAbout what I expected, thanks. I figured the fact it had zero recoil meant there would be some other drawback.
>>532271231I didn't actually know the Purifier went full auto
>300 medals short Fuarking sweeeedes! I'll get there eventually I guess.
>>532270519this but unironically
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775242864520010/76561198026977961
Bots 10, incel or otherwise YOU decide
>>532271583Deadeye if AP3 crutcher, Diligence or Amendment if you know how to click on heads
>>532264452You missed several threads of us trashing Alexis. It's trash that can't even punch a hole in a chain link fence or sheer metal shopping containers.
>>532272189It's arguably better for devastators too since it doesn't flinch them, so you can adjust to aim at the head more easily.
why does the spear exist?
>>532273396>plasma has no demo force because it's "practically weightless"> lasers are actually weightless>laser pistols and rifles have no demo force>stratagem laser cannon, quasar cannon, and orbital laser enter the chatIn a sane world he'd be fired.
Squids and Bots i can see it but what use do Bugs have for a Propaganda tower
>>532273621Easy to use fire and forget without strictly needing to aim it
>>532273621just to suffer
>>532273396nigger i can buy a plasma torch for 200 bucks and it will cut through several inches of steel
>>532273621It's alright for aimlets who play on gamepads.
>>532273763Propaganda isn't from bugs. It's from dissidents
>>532273763Ain't the bugs broadcasting, it's Space Greenpeace or whatever the fuck
>>532273825But what about REINFORCED STEEL DOORS (actually conex shipping container)?
lib, mmg, supply pack, eat, and eagle strafe is a better loadout than what 90 percent of players take
>>532273763They just scream into the webcam while the mic peaks
>>532264452Its a joke weapon. They put the worst traits of the railgun, quasar and recoiless all in one along with one of the wrost ammo economies in the game.
>>532273978Yes
https://www.vevor.com/plasma-cutter-c_10061/vevor-air-plasma-cutter-cutting-machine-50a-110-220v-dual-voltage-1-2-clean-cut-p_010284269266
>>532273762This is even more stupid when you know that the fucking GAS GRENADE blows up the shipping container.
>>532274542steel is stronger in sweden
I take a completely random loadout every game
I filled out this morning's survey just to complain about not having preset loadouts.
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What stopped them from putting a laser pointer on a vertical foregrip?
>>532275253what's up bro?
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775242866606136/76561198023232654
lobby decides
SC farm
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775242866552793/76561198025334742
>>532275175>Vertical foregrip exists in-game to improve recoil.>The scythe has 0 recoil, so the vertical foregrip attachment would literally no nothing for it.Are your retarded?
>>532271254>"I need more men"*imported from India
>join bot game in progress
>it's some lone dude struggling take out even one objective in D8
>run in and start soloing objectives
>he starts spamming "follow me" voice emote
>nah
>just roll through objectives solo
>eventually he starts following me
>2 others join
>one is a 13 year old
>he just starts saying "WHATS UP GUYS WHATS UP GUYS WHO ARE WE FIGHTING"
>half of the map still uncleared
>"I'LL SECURE THE EXTRACT GUYS"
>sits there doing nothing
>"UMMMMMM GUYS, YEAH I'M GONNA NEED BACKUP THIS EXTRACT IS IN NO WAY SECURE"
>keep rolling through objectives
>"UMMMM GUYYYYS YEAHHH IM GONNA NEED BACKUP."
>ignore him
>"GUYS ARE WE EXTRACTING OR WHAT???? IM GONNA GO AHEAD AND SUGGEST WE EXTRACT"
>once map is clear and we're at extract, find an explosive barrel
>throw it behind him
>shoot it
>he starts screaming bloody murder
fuck that kid was annoying
>>532274686>Swedem.gif>Finnish flag
>>532276171Nah, Arrowhead isn't an amerishart rightoid company
>>532275974>Are your>literally no nothing
>>532275175I just need all firearms to have flashlight mods. The new robot mega city made anything without a flashlight basically useless.
>pick mission
>lobby privacy: public/open
>no one ever joins
?????
>>532276903Bro your SOS beacon?
>>532276903>he got blacklisted
>>532276763I hate those things, everything in the beam just turns stark white and it makes it even harder to see.
I'm gonna buy a bunch of SC
Shams needs more men, that must mean he needs more money
you F2Pers can thank me later
>>532276763>turn on flashlight>light reflects off fog>can see even lessI am fucking sick of the swiggers making it so you can't see shit on half the planets
>>532277139>you F2Pers can thank me laterthe game costs 40 bucks up front, nobody here is f2p
>>532277364i got it from a friend
>>53227736440 bucks is like the price of a coffee it's basically free if you're not poor
>>5322756832/4 get in here
>>53227755240 rupees is indeed the cost of a coffee in india.
>>532277684I wouldn't know, but thanks for sharing that fact with me Lil Gurpreet
>>532277684thanks for the input Prakesh
>>532277557If this bothers you, just fucking shoot them. I've killed over a dozen third worlders who were taking 10 minutes on the pipe puzzle with two moving pieces.
>>532277968Why does it filter so many helldivers? What is the IQ requirement?
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>>532277552even if I had 98% of all the money in the world I would only give any of it to those deserving
How about a region filter. Thats the one thing Sony did correct was restrict turd worlders and jeets from playing. The SEAmonkeys and macacos I encounter playing this game all ruin the experience
>>532278193I've watched monkeys at the zoo do harder puzzle to get peanut butter snacks, I'm gonna guess if your IQ isn't over 70, you probably just shouldn't play the pipe puzzle.
>>532278380Doing a mission with retarded low level turdies can be pretty funny, actually.
>millions of heavy elite kills needed for new major order
>get to see everyone's big game hunter loadouts
That said, leviathans feel like a pain in the ass to kill even when you are geared to deal with em
>>532278636>playing with my own feces can be fun actually
>>532278810>People kept saying they are fine because you are meant to ignore them>MO says you have to kill them allAH defenders will never learn their lesson.
>>532278810The hitboxes took me forever to get used to. You have to shoot at the parts that can ACTUALLY break, there's a point between the tip of a fin and the body where attacks just don't hurt anymore. That doesn't explain why I never manage to do any damage to the warp discs, though.
>>532278515Once in a while you get a really unintuitive path that can take a few tries, but in 95% of cases you should be able to complete it in under 10 seconds unless you are clinically retarded
It's another rigged MO you're not supposed to win. Fuck Joel I'll rape him if I ever see him.
>>532279002Are better off with the Recoilless aiming for the rear fins, and shooting the innards once it breaks or packing a Spear and dump 4 rockets into it?
>>532243528 (OP)Itโs never been more over than it is nowโฆ
>>532279279Do 4 spear shots actually kill them?
glad to be rid of the thing
its disappointment has continued from launch all the way to today
>game launches
>primaries feel like shit
>cope is that the top tier warbond AR with MEDIUM PEN will no doubt be GAME CHANGING
>it was actually so goddamn awful it managed to turn people off ARs entirely
>is still a remarkably terrible medium pen gun
You retards, obviously some scripted side objective is going to show up in the last 2 days that makes the requirements much easier. Probably going to be squids again though.
>>532279279The innards aren't as soft and you're led to believe, I've shot them over and over again and the only way I ever get them to go down is by breaking fins and discs.
Somehow people with mechs and AT emplacements can take Leviathans down without causing any dino damage at all, and I don't know what they're doing. Maybe they're hitting the vertebrae somehow.
>>532279496It's criminal how ineffective it is for how pretty it looks. Meanwhile it's worse in every way compared to the hideous adjudicator.
>>532279496We are back to "primaries suck balls". I don't think i've fired my primary in weeks. It's all support weapons and strategems.
>a fully choked Punisher 2shots a warrior and staggers a hiveguard at 50m distance
DEAR LORD. Why hasnt anyone told me?
>>532279496I can't imagine there's anything the LIbPen can do that the machine gun can't.
>>532279516This
It's going to be "Defend (shitty planet) to reduce (enemy kill requirement) by half" or something
X-Com collab with weapons and kit based off the 3 factions from War of the Chosen. Based or Cringe?
i just use the double-edged sickle with fireproof armor it works for everything
>>532279516Doesn't matter. Busy bug diving. Already swore off MOs.
>>532279783>He hasn't been using the punisherI love running it so much, I wish people could let go of the breaker. The punisher is more fan and more effective.
>>532279783>2 shotting warriors and staggering hiveguards is impressiveWhat difficulty are you playing on?
Bugdiving?
Botdiving?
Squiddiving?
miss me with all that
I'm a City Diver I only do helldives in city maps
>>532279984Sickle in general is incredible, I got it recently and I couldn't stop using it for a while. The best automatic primary hands down, says I.
>>532279982>Illuminate are basically xcom aliens complete with gay HP sponges and human zombiesEh... We already have jetpacks and innacurate as shit weapons.
>kill over 3 million leviathans
>I've killed maybe 5 of them since they were introduced
>they are never worth fighting
Homosexuality enforced.
>>532280138Mega city maps are objectively worse than regular maps
>>532279783>two shots a warriordude just let them bleed out
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ku2xqVTXXNY
How are you guys coping?
Interview with Alexus: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEbJMNlnjSQ
>>532279982>95% chance of equipment working>actually only works 50% of the time
>>532279982yes. I want the alloy cannon.
>>532281110I can't handle two hours of alexus, someone skim over it and see if he says something retarded
>>532279783Punisher has always been my default for tryhard gameplay vs bugs. You can't beat round reload + good damage + knockback. Pair it with the GL, a mobility option, and Senator and the bugs literally can't hurt you.
>>5322756833/4 1 spot left, bugs
>>532281110One minute in and I'm already angry.
>>532281370He definitely said that he wants to nerf the Eruptor again
>>532281110>>532281680>light pen weapons are "baseline" of primaries, and where they want most of them to be>he then sucks his teeth as if to imply some aren't>the only things that aren't are the overperformers, there are no underperformers if light pen is the baseline>uses that same old tired "your primary is always with you, so it should be the weakest" line he already got put in the surstromming basement forhow the fuck is he still working there
>>532243528 (OP)Anyone that thinks arc nades are bad simply has not used them. They are the most broken chaff clearing nade
>>532281110>we agree, the epoch having a 3 round magazine when it tends to need two shots is bad>so we'll look at that, and nerfing its damage to match :)I WANT HIM DEAD.
>>532281110How the fuck is this retard still working at AH??
Hell, after what he pulled with hello neighbor 2 you'd think he would never get a job with responsiblity in the vidya industry again
>>532282129The guy can't get beyond the idea that something could just need a straight up buff instead of thinking it needs to be 'balanced' with a buff and nerf somewhere else.
>>532279002Hey man I'm just as confused as you are.
Granted they nerfed the fuck outta them to make them easier to kill.
I wonder how low the Levi kills will be
>Like game
>Buy game
>Everything I like gets nerfed or removed
>Don't like the game, as it is a fundamentally different game from the one I bought
>It's been "too long" can't get money back
Story as old as life service games.
>>532279774Build to compliment your support weapon.
Lib pen is an ap5 compliment.
You pair ap2 with AP4.
>>532282576Nah, I bring an AT support weapon, two chaff clearing strategems and a base assault strategem. Haven't even used my grenades in those same weeks.
>>532281110Oh this will be neat, thanks for sharing.
After the warp bond released, I'm pretty happy with how Alexus balances the game. I hope we get more big thinking weapons and unlocks in the future.
>>532280950I knew I should have added an attention whore image.
Anyways, rip prince of darkness.
>>532282779What grenades do you bring. They're all useful in a lot of scenarios save HE nades.
I've been resisting impacts and they're amazing for in a pinch aoe damage and stagger for groups looking at me.
>>532282838All MOs are rigged. There's only ever been the illusion of a player driven narrative, much like managed democracy itself.
>>532280950>just an image of a wojak with some in game audio and Black Sabbath playing in the background>866k views
>can we get a transmog system?
>I can't comment on that, but I don't know that anything is in the works.
>I think we still stand by what pilestedt said.
>this armor looks like the way it's supposed to behave
>WE STAND BY "BACON FLAVORED APPLES"
bro, arrowhead literally doesn't deserve the success, I hope the mishandle their next game and it flops
>>532280950>>532282910WTF this is how I find out
>>532263760bitch more solonig
>>532280950>>532282910Death comes for everyone, anon. Over this decade we're going to see virtually everyone you grew up with disappear. My parents will be gone around the same time too. Death's coming and all you can really do is have kids and pass the torch.
>>532281110>confirms that the attachment system was something they rushed using existing assets>implied that they won't give non-standard weapons any attachments because it's too much worklol
lmao
>>532282910Fuck, Ozzy's dead?
>>532283012I indeed bring the default heavy penetratig ones. I haven't bothered unlocking any other grenades.
>missed other lobby
fuck it
d10 bugs achird
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775242871916940/76561198027910192
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775242872049478/76561198070044660
d10 bug
>>532283535no way its full already
>bugs
Someone make a good lobby now.
>>532283771it actually is, it filled up in literally a minute
CHANGED TO MOON BOTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>532283535>voynich lobby>crashed instantly upon joining
sorry l4, we got another player, hope you have fun in other lobby
>>532284039I blame sweden for this
>>532283439Oh lol
I'm so sorry, those things are pretty shit and only good for- well nothing really.
>>532281110if we were allowed to kill one person in our lifetime i would kill alexus twice and go to prison
>>532283162The worst part of all of thise is that many weapons and armors cannot perform the function you'd assume from what they look like. Like armors with additional grenades on their chest not having additional grenades.
>>532280093At fifty metres, dipshit. it's a shotgun
>>532282129>if we increase the magazine capacity, then we have to reduce the damage or else its total damage increasesChange it from 4 3-round magazines to 3 4-shot magazines. Done.
>B-BUT THE DAMA-Make the reload slightly slower too, if total damage is that devastating.
>>532284874Shotguns in this game have shotgun-like range.
>>532281110They recently posted a new survey to the Discord. I encourage everyone to write in and request they send this asshole to the gulag.
>>532285030The total damage is already low relative to the risk of blowing up which is actually a factor with the Epoch. He just doesnโt want to buff weapons that need it while not really knowing why.
>>532285327It's crazy how much more leeway you have with the Railgun before exploding compared to the Epoch. Not to mention the Railgun actually has a fair number of use-case scenarios when only charged partway, while the Epoch is utter dogshit unless fully overcharged.
>>532280093difficulty doesn't effect enemy health you massive retard
My only grievance with AH is their insistence on not crushing Alexus' skull with a rock
>>532285520One of the best parts of this game.
Alexus living rent-free in people's heads, yikes. Some kids need to get off the internet for a bit
>>532285602Don't you have some more games to ruin, alexus?
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775242873473853/76561199108851031
d10 whatevs, might be afk for a bit
>>532285602That's not what rent free means.
>>532285602hdg is easily mind broken by the portuguese and serbian
here is how you really fix the epoch EAT damage when fully charged less recoil why is a single shot weapon with such spread is beyond me give the same demolition as the quasar cannon and kill alexus
>>532284859don't worry, alexus says he'd rather fix that than ever give you a transmog system :)
bionic arms coming to those sets with servo assisted that don't have cybernetics on them soon!
>>532285030>-20% total ammo and a reload speed nerf all just to achieve +33% magazine capacity on a weapon that alexus admits should've launched with a magazine count divisible by twoalexus has come to see us!
>>532284069does this count as a chocogaki
>>532285473Honestly keeping the railgun at safe mode and popping mediums with no risk is a perfectly fine use of it.
Epoch doesn't deserve being compared to the railgun.
>>532282046unless they decide to bounce into your squad mate's balls, or africa
>>532285473>railgun has a 3 second grace period, epoch has a half second grace period>both do similar amounts of damage>railgun has a linear scaling charge, epoch really just has two different damage values>railgun has next to no spread, no drop, very long range, and a very high velocity, the epoch is the complete opposite>railgun also has more ammo and a moving reloadI genuinely don't understand what they were going for here.
>>532286727Railgun does 33% durable, epoch does 100% durable, and has a fuck off explosion that doubles the damage
It is not the same whatsoever.
>>532286403 You failed elementary school, didn't you?
>>532285473>Not to mention the Railgun actually has a fair number of use-case scenarios when only charged partway, while the Epoch is utter dogshit unless fully overcharged.Some random YouTuber made a decent point about how other plasma weapons have a spamability to them, and it would make sense if the uncharged epoch shot was equivalent in effect to a fully charged purifier shot that you could just blast out rapid fire. That doesn't help the pitiful ammo economy, but it at least gives you a reason to use it not fully charged.
>>532286951please don't bother with such boring replies in the future
>>532287073Uncharged is good for killing off shit that other nuked
>>532286925Epoch is 800 direct + 800 explosive at full charge, or 1600 total. Railgun is 1500.
The Epoch also has 50% durable on its direct damage, only the explosion is 100% durable.
Hitting weakpoints is preferable for both.
>>532286428no, she's JK and she's no gaki
>>532287458>epoch>hitting weakpointsAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
>>532287325>retard just realized that 4*3 and 3*4 are the same thing
>>532287638it's 5 3 round magazines you fucking dope
>>532287458>1500Annnnnnnnnnnnnd... 562.5 durable
>>532287734Cool. Then reducing total mags by 1 and magazine capacity by 1 would be an overall buff.
>>532287954correct, but that's not what you said, you said 3 4 round magazines
They're gonna add some "uhmm akshually if you manage to kill this amount of enemies first maybe we'll reduce the amount of things to kill on this part" BS to the MO to compensate for the sheer audacity of including a fucking OPERATION MODIFIER-ONLY enemy as a MO target, arent they
>>532283162>things are supposed to look how they behave>big fuck off plasma cannon for smashing tanks>can't scratch a sheet metal shipping containerI'm not letting this go.
>Nearly 4 million leviathans
Theyre not serious, are they? Why do they keep trying to make squids a thing?
>>532288369Durable is the biggest culprit. Most things that are durable look exactly like non-durable things.
>>532288365>Shriekers barely appear when they're part of the modifiers, shrieker nests get nuked the moment anyone even spots them>Impalers fight over a spawn spot with Bile Titans constantly>Factory Striders only appear on D7 and higher>Fleshmobs are the most boring enemy ever to fight and kill>Leviathans.
>>532288562They keep thinking that illuminate are fine, and that people will like them of they give them a go. It's literal cope.
>>532288680No. This is because of the demolition force stat. The epoch has 10 demo force, which means it can break random shit like milk crates, but it can't break chain link fences. It can't open shipping containers. It can't close bug holes.
>>532288012why is there a green crosshair on your seia
>>532289194but it can destroy bot fabs and illuminate ships if fully charged so thats fine
check and black, buddy.
>>532289194I'm saying durable is the biggest "things are supposed to look how they behave" ignorer. Because there is no visual queue that something is durable anywhere.
Ever since Sony put that Jeet in charge of AH, Helldivers content slowed to a cawl and decreased in quality substantially.
>>532289743Indian culture is one of being lazy on top of having the chinese thing where you are a loser if you are not cheating. It sucks.
>>532289743Baskinator looks like THAT?!!
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>>532289889Why is everything I like routinely ruined by smelly shit skins?
>>532289347Fabs have hp pools ever since the bots were castrated
>>532289920more like Bastinator
>try out the Eruptor
>it's dogshit, actually
I know at least part of this is due to my own dogshit aim, but between the low RoF and the fact that the rounds skip off of anything that isn't a dead on hit (and I've had them skip off of Overseers and shit before) I really struggle to see the usecase of this weapon. One of you Eruptor enjoyers explain this shit to me.
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>>532290313>just ignore it
>>532290092Full. Imagine being slow
>>532290583something about heavy AP and the sloptubers saying its le meta good
probably "actually if you level this gun up and get the ergo upgrades, it turns into a GODKILLER gun"
dunno why you wouldnt just use the fucking crossbow and call it a day. faster RoF, easier to use, lets you do one-handed shenanigans, doesnt fuck you over for not letting the bolt-cycling animation finish.
>>532290583it's a utility sidearm in the primary slot
>>532289743>>532289889>>532289920What are the odds the jeet fucked that slampig?
>>532290583Whenever I pick up the Eruptor once in a blue moon I keep reloading it after the 1st shot for some reason. My finger just goes for the R button.
>>532290583When you shoot an enemy with it, they die.
>>532290583the eruptor is actually pretty good against jetpack bots
2 or even 1 shot will pretty much destroy a patrol pack and make them collectively explode
>>532291071anything is fucking good against jetpack bots
just sneezing in their general direction already makes their jeetpacks explode, causing a patrol-wipe
>>532290583Another bacon apple.
>Looks like a high caliber automatic rifle>Fires weird urchins that explode and is manually operated
if you spent less time complaining in /hdg/ you would have completed the leviathan MO by now. just saying.
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>12,500,000 Impalers
>6,250,000 Factory Striders
>3,750,000 Leviathans
This is one of those MOs where we get a random secondary objective that drastically cuts the required amount, isnt it?
>want to play with friends
>they are D6 shitters and won't go higher
Tried to tell them that D10 isnt bad but they won't listen
>>532290583It kills most medium enemies in one shot. Point, click, delete. It kills groups of lighter enemies in one shot. It kill heavier enemies like annihilator tanks, hulks, and harvesters in a few well placed hits. It has demo force utility for destroying fences, containers, squid Tesla towers, and spawners. The projectile's explosion can be used as a sound lure to trick patrols to deviate from their intercept path with the squad and investigate the wrong direction.
>>532291694super helldive if you want to
you can leave your friends behind
cause your friends don't dive
and if they don't dive
well they're, no friends of mine
>>532291694Host the match. Hot drop the squad into the middle of a bot fortress.
>>532291680it's going to be miraculously completed
it's a propaganda effort
>>532291694There is no reason to play d10. It not even hard. Why bother? You need script?
>>532291621ONLY WINNING MOVE IS NOT TO PLAY, JIMBO
Captcha MARRS
>>532291694i recently bumped up to d8 after coming back from a year off
and it's easier than d7 used to be???
thinking about going higher desu but some randos are so retarded that i might be painful
>>532292119If all the bars are half empty by the end, and they declare it a victory without a gay ass "miracle" side objective, then, i will give this MO a tiny bit of respect for being actual lore.
https://rpghq.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3175
is this bannable
>>532292461posting a link to some random faggot forum should be bannable
>>532292285Keep climbing anon. I rose to D9 and D10 and never looked back. You'll get bad teammates sometimes but you'll hit a point it doesn't matter and you can carry
>>532292461Quite literally nothing is unless you get manually reported by some faggot. You can get an anti-cheat bypass for like 2 bucks and spawn SC by the thousands in a solo lobby and you won't get banned. The anti-cheat exists solely to prevent you from hooking hacks to the game and is incapable of giving out or even just suggesting bans.
>>532292461No one has ever been banned for models dipshit
The only people who have ever been banned are people who use straight up hacks that are manually reported by redditors
>>532284030why are her hips so wide
>>532291680>dont care>dont care>dont careKill yourself avatarnigger
>>532291621I can't dive at work.
>>532292285Jump to D10. Retards infest d7, 8, and 9. The only concern is prioritizing closing bile titan holes quickly.
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>run solo 7s
>games not to insane that everything feels like shit
>can still die if I get caught outta position
>nice n slow, all my tools feel functional and I can contemplate how I'm taking every fight
Unless I'm playing with friends I can't imagine playing this game with randos that just take some meta slop that kills everything on screen. I don't know why you'd ever wanna raise the difficulty when half the equipment is useless to the DPS check the game forces on you.
>>532290939Honestly? Knowing Sweden, 50/50.
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>>532293840>half the equipment is useless to the DPS check the game forces on you.Agree.
>>532285856ggz frens
https://files.catbox.moe/d4kkxx.mp4
If a grenade does damage, it should destroy holes, fabs, and ships
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I don't know why, but the way the gun just floats on your hip really throws me off. Whenever I actually look at it, it looks really clunky.
>>532294629>try to hit impalar with the de-escalator>goes underneath it and team kills l4thanks sweden
>>532294895it's supposed to be on a sling but someone was too lazy to model that
>>532294815>I want to make explosive grenades even MORE uselessNo thanks chud. If anything pyre and gas grenades shouldn't close fabs. Should be exclusive to boom nades.
>>532295059Nigga you need reading lessons.
>>532295119arc grenades are the only grenades that don't do this, and they do not need a buff. They are arguably on par with gas right now.
I also think gas and pyre grenades should not do this, again against what you're saying.
Did they break the flamethrower?
>>532295264I dont care about your vanilla ass explosive grenades
>>532295290are you the host of a lobby?
>>532293840D10 isnt hard at all. I don't play Meta loadouts I just bring fun and decently effective stuff. Using even a bit of effort in D10 makes it a cakewalk imo.
>>532295264>Nerf everything so the most boring grenade has a purpose to exist.Fuck off, Alexus.
>>532292285if you make it to d10 you'll just get queued up with slient minmaxing autists that kill everything on the screen, so enjoy it while it lasts
>>532294815>throwing knives are in the grenade section>suddenly they become the speedrunning meta to blitz overnight
>>532291680Throw those papers away. It's time for your getting fucked by big white cock session.
>>532295459What difference does it make?
>Everyone here says pubs are bad
>Whenever someone posts a web here of a lobby theres 10+ reinforcements used
>My experience with pubs is they die 2-3 times max
Noooticed
>>532295815thats because theyre chads using portable hellbombs
>>532295802if you are the host it works if you are not it does fuck all
>>532295870I literally tested this yesterday.
Unironically WOMM. Turn off your cheat mods.
Don't warp inside my butthole again, L4
https://files.catbox.moe/elozjf.mp4
>150 still level cap
they expanded level cap like a month after launch and then nothing for a year?
?????
>>532295779But I already had it
>>532296183Isn't top level something like Grand Admiral of Everything Democratic or some shit like that? Literally where do you go from there?
>>532296183Levelcap doesnt fucking matter when you unlocked all there is to the game at level 25 and everything after that is just fluff titles to call yourself "Nigger Racer"
Literally inflating numbers for no reason or effect, as levels dont dictate how good a player is, but how much time they have wasted on this game.
I've seen level <50 randoms do better than some Level 150 tards that die once and immediatly ragequit.
>>532295997the falling into the hole is so funny
>>532296386The 150 rank is Super Private. Its a Starship Troopers reference.
>>532296406>but how much time they have wasted on this game.but that's exactly why it matters
I want to show people how devoted I am to democracy
>>532296386Max rank is Super Private
>>532296497Then stop posting here and play the game.
>>532291680post robutts butt NOW
>>532296192don't ask me ask AH they made the bug
odds I host a lobbo
evens I finally get a good nights sleep
>>532295415>>532295586>Damn I have to think about my loadout instead of having a single tool that does everything Maybe Alexus was right
>>532296771rolling for sleep
>>532296771sheeeeit
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>>532296771Never free
You should sleep tho chud
>>532296789Nerf Eagle Strafing Run
Not gonna elaborate. You know why it should get nerfed.
>>532295290They broke status effects and the netcode to fix the "status effects multiply by lobby members" bug. The bug stems from the clients doing work independent of the host to help with the host's load. The status effect was being applied by each independent machine helping with the calculation. It seems like they turned off the client's role in this. So, it now works if the host and client are having no communication issues.
>>532296192
>>532292285I started running D10 as soon as I unlocked it and haven't lost a single game since. Randoms are generally competent, and a little teamwork goes a long way.
>>532296838ALICE ALICE ALICE
IM GOING TO ALICE
>>532296963I agree
Bring back demo force on fabs
>>532296789>Picks grenade pistolPhew, that was hard!
>>532295997why are you spanish
>>532296983What does that mean exactly? Fire and gas do 75% less damage?
>>532297097AH needs to add a guard dog that follows you around, has dolljoints and looks exactly like alice.
>>532296789>groups and spawnersEruptor or Crossbow. More than enough ammo to last me for days.
>heaviesHMG. EAT. RR. Commando. Quasar. LC. AMR. Railgun. AC.
Secondary of your liking, grenade of your liking.
Need only 1 stratagem for heavy units, everything else is just to make things more easy than they already are.
>>532296746You get one (1)
>>532291680>>532297587Doesn't even look like a helldiver, just random oc donut steele sloppa garbage
KYS
>>532297780The armour is modeled after the default armour
>>532296789Nerfing grenades' ability to interact with a fundamental mechanic of the game doesn't force you to think about your load out it just cripples your ability to achieve objectives and locks you out of certain builds by making it impossible for those builds to perform a core tutorial game play mechanic.
>>532297489The status effect, not the damage from the stream itself, should apply less often. They specificslly buffed the apply chance for some weapons by 20% after fixing the bug causes it to apply 25% as often in full lobbies. However, if the host is having connection issues to the client, the status effect rolls from the clients will be lost to the ether. Because they seemed to have turned off the feature specifically meant to compensate for that.
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>>532297953Looks nothing like it, if you posted this outside this general and someone saw it, they would never guess it was supposed to be from helldivers
>>532297587Now post her cock and balls
Ummmmm can you guys pick up the pace a little?
>>532298674A highbrow poster, I dare say
>>532297587I liked the asphalt better when it was real 2D girl, not a robot.
Alas.
>>532298708>hello saars, please kill the enemy we told you to avoid saars, please waste your time not completing missions just to use your chair to kill the giant sky snake saars :)I shan't
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>>532298340And they went on vacation without fixing it?
>>532297130Sounds good anon
>>532298935Yeah, instead of having multiple options for grenades, i'm now forced to pick the vanilla grenade and grenade pistol. Great balance, idea, anon!
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HOW IN THE FUCK do I put the flag on my guard dog? I want to see the colors fly.
>>532298515Unironically yes
D10 ANY steam://joinlobby/553850/109775242882886107/76561198066017633
>>532299114Drop the guard dog, once the dog is back on the pack, plant the flag on the dog.
installed the sc arrow mod and did the load tweak in config
when i drop into a map, i can see some arrows very far, but they're basically constantly flickering until i get right on top of them
also, some arrows dont appear at a distance, and only appear when i approach the POI, really weird.
any knowers?
>>532299220goes straight through?
>>532298762You flatter me with words, yet I see not the fembot's feminine penis and festicles.
>>532298864It's amazing! I don't know how you push a patch precisely before vacation hits when the game is currently stable. All they had to do was hold off the patch until after vacation ended.
>>532297392I'm not Spanish
don't confuse me with one of those inbred homos
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>>532299390I never done it mysellf. Just seen videos. But if you hit the dog it should work.
>slop update
>slop warbond
>slop MOs
>>532299678you forgot
>goes on vacation for the 12th time
Update FINISHED.
Warbond FINISHED.
MO FINISHED
...deathdeathdeathdeathdeathdeathdeath...
>>532299678I'm starting to think they purposly fill warbonds with shit but then put a single good item in to make people buy them anyway
>>532299678The MO is the best part. We've been getting nothing but gay ass railroad MOs for months. At least this one is based on total participation and not "whoops, you dodn't get 90% of the players into one city on one planet at a time. You lose"
>>532299678>>532299808>even Alexus is getting too cocky againFucking GRIM
This song plays on my super destroyer 24/7
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwrj_puH6PI
>sorry we couldn't be arsed to correct one number to fix the Epochs spread before going on vacation haha
>>532290092GGs, and remember, safety first.
>>532299440>>532297392hes latinx cmon be inclusive
>>532300461CLUSTER EAGLE NOT EVEN FUCKING ONCE IN THIS GOD FORSAKEN LIFETIME
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>no no no bro you are supposed to use the epoch as a chaff clearing stratagem bro
fucking defend this shit man
Botdivers: https://youtu.be/oZ3iZNA-NwY?si=JsCXpPGe-lInEtEQ
>>532300206>adjust the spread of the epoch>send that hotfix in>whoops, you made that hotfix using a version of the game that is several updates behind, multiple fixes have now been reverted seemingly at random>also all plasma weapons aside from the epoch just had their spread values reversed because the epoch spread value was tied to them somehow>oh, and it broke all mods>time for a two week break!nah, they knew not to rock the boat
>>532301006>AC worse at mobbing than AMRAn actual retard made this
>>532300206>Ha hah! Sorry, our game master has no game master experience and has never read a game master guide.
>>532301232>"Uhhhhh but you all decided to not play the half-baked illuminate faction. So suck it up and accept you lost :)"
>>532264452>Something that takes two shots to kill a heavyfor chargers, impalers, tanks, and hulks it's 1 if you hit their weakspots
>>532301136>3 shots to kill devs as opposed to AMRs 1.5>2 shots to kill medium bugs as opposed to AMRs 1>im not even gonna talk about overseerssorry, "shooting troopers in a dropship" and "killing 3 scavengers as they pop out of the ground" is not mobbing
>Make Epoch explosion visual drastically smaller than it actually is
What the actual fuck is their problem?
>>532301561>What the actual fuck is their problem?they are sw*dish
>>532301561>>532301659I got that mixed up
>Makes epoch explosion visual drastically bigger than it actually is"
>>532301359>he doesn't know
>>532301561Do you like your bacon flavored apple ?
>>532301561because these retards don't learn
the 500kg used to be the exact same, huge visual, no aoe
and now they did it again with the Epoch
AH just can't learn from its mistakes and is doomed to endlessly repeat them over and over and over again
>>532252250The optimizations are gonna be insane bro, pass me some more copium
>>532301953What is that thing on his head
>>532299390only works on the gundog not the lasdog its fucking weird
>MO for all factions, just a kill count
>people still avoid squiggers like the plague
what an abysmal faction
>>532302416Upside down glass of wine being held by an elite from halo
>>532299390you gotta stick the gun, not the backpack
>>532255349Are you in melee range of the enemy constantly?
>>532302529>22k players on claorell>we are slowly losing it>low resistancenot rigged btw
>sorry bro, in order to do transmog we'd have to make servo assisted give you cybernetics on every armor you put it on and make adreno defrib put the little cannisters and tubes on every armor you put it on, and that'd be a lot of work :(
>it's all about the realis- I mean believability bro
>man, that was close, I almost said the version of that word that upsets people, good thing I went to those PR classes...
>>532299968This one is one of the worst railroaded MOs yet because it's literally impossible to win, though. Nobody in their right minds is going to play ayy missions just to shoot leviathans all mission long.
>>532302745cities fuck with liberation at face value, once zenith falls itll spike up
>bring gas dog
>it does nothing
Jesus Christ
>>532303039>he fell for the "gas is good" memedeserved
>>532255349>>532302640>Don't stand in the line of fire.>Callenge rating: Dante Must Die.
>Overestimate the numbers required to win the MO.
>Give players a get out of jail side mission that, if they don't take, results in them 100% losing the MO.
>Repeat.
I'm tired of Joel's playbook. He's such a shit DM.
>Host Illuminate lobby.
>Think about the stratagems I want to pick to actually deal with leviathans for once.
>Realize I actually don't want to deal with leviathans at all - that was literally how they were designed in the first place.
>Turn off the game.
Fuck you, Arrowhead.
>the MO is an extended gutter, and the gutters are clogged with bullshit kill quotas
>the MOnkeys will drown in their failure
>and all the cucks and all the chuds will look up and cry 'SAVE US!'
>and I'll look down and whisper 'no.'
>kill ~4 million leviathans
joel is such a faggot
>release broken patch
>along with broken warbond
>don't fix shit
>issue impossible MO
>go on vacation
>>532270519>sexo >MagAtleast post Saryn or Valkyr
>the MO doesn't matter!
>Every post is complaining about the unfair MO
Hmmmm......
>>532306295those who don't care, don't post.
>>532305958This is the buggiest the game has been in quite a while. The game feels aimless as fuck after Super Earth invasion where the illuminate didn't bring the entire cultist sect of units.
New support weapon can't even fire straight. I'd be uneasy as fuck to put something out like this and just not fix it while on vacation.
>>532305160>Chinese divers hack the MO>Sweden claims "haha lol that's the point, it was propoooganda all along"
>>532306861>"Oh, wow! Look at how many people like fighting Leviathans! Increase their spawn rate and another levi kill MO! This time 15 mil!"
>swedes broke their game for this
>Mfw I see a diver with a filthy squigger/bug/robutt wife
https://www.youtube.com/watch?
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>>532306142>magbro are you blind, that's nova, also saryn is sexo but i don't like valkyr
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>>532296940Now that's what I call Helldiving. GGs.
>>532307501>Doesnt even kill it
>>532300618I get three shots unlike the quasar.
I can kill heavies from the front unlike grenade launcher.
Anyone saying epoch is a chaff clearing weapon is fucking retarded. MAYBE. MAYBE you use it for patrols or like drop ships. I've had some solid one shots on dev drops.
But otherwise you are wasting ammo that should be spent on hulks.
Epoch is great, just needs to be built smartly. Something the community fucking hates, which is fair because the games damage numbers are retarded and esoteric. Really nicely paired with ap4 allies too.
>coop game
>lazy devs
>buggy as shit
>glacial content pipeline
>dead engine
>devs hate their players
why are swedish games all like this?
>>532307770>>glacial content pipeline>New content once a monthYou havnt seen what shitty patch cycles look like.
>>532301359AC one shots every non-heavy enemy with flak
>>532302760>tfw there are already servo armors that don't have robo arms
>>532307861The real complaint about the content is that it's underbaked buggy garbage
I think the swedes actually drop content at a decent enough pace
How many mags does Siege Ready add if the weapon gets 6?
>>532307954he commented on that and said something like
>I'd rather fix those armors with inconsistencies rather than do transmogThat's right. He'd rather get rid of the argument that they can't even maintain consistency already, all so they can stop hearing it instead of capitulating.
>>532307736>blocks your path
>>532307736Will never justify the horrible spread, the barely audible charge chime, the poorly-visible charge meter, or the10 Demolition Rating.
Also the reload animation keeps bugging out visually, with the replacement canister hovering a foot away from your hand, but maybe that's just me.
>>532308653Don't forget that it has horrible range. The projectiles explode on their own after ~100 meters. God forbid you want to take out a bot turret, or some aircraft.
>>532308845Does the damage drop off over distance too?
>>532308845It can consistently one shot gunships. When the insane spreads allows it to at least.
Its still 1 of your 3 shots and you need to charge for 3 seconds beforehand, so it's neither fast nor efficient, but I guess its something
>>532307736There is nothing smart about the weapon, it's just an inferior Quasar/RR/EAT/Commando. Those 3 shots mean nothing when you get so few of them you need a Supply Pack just to make up for its poor ammo economy, and every shot has to be charged.
If they reduce its spread, improve its ammo capacity, give it some real demo force, remove the retarded plasma damage drop off and auto explode, and do something to improve the charge in some way, then it might be worth bringing. Right now, there is a better option no matter what you're trying to do with it.
>>532309060Yes
<Thinly veiled bait disguised as an Inflammatory statement about x weapon>
>>532309060I think it does, but it doesn't affect any breakpoints as far as I know. Hulks and War Striders take 2 shots at any range.
>>532309114>It can consistently one shot gunships.Yeah that's not what I'm talking about at all. If the gunship is too far your projectile won't make it even if the trajectory is good.
>>532309114You know what else can one-shot gunships? The goddamn railgun, with considerably better accuracy and much less risk to the user.
>>532309268Skill issue sweetums, unironically. Git gud. lower the difficulty. Optimize your loadout with more crutches.
Then what would you change about the Epoch to make it good?
I personally like the charge actually being risky as is.
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>>532309268<several sentences of meaningless ad Hominem heavily laced with acronyms simulating hysterical laughter>
>>532309674Should do RR dmg and pen on max charge. That's it.
>>532309674Fix the spread, improve the demolition rating so it can break open containers and destroy propaganda towers, improve the damage so that even when not overcharged it still has some purpose. The railgun isn't useless when "safely" charged, so why is the Epoch?
Oh, and fix the blast radius to match the size of the visual explosion.
>>532309674Fix the spray
Make an uncharged shot spammable like a larger purifier round
Increase the damage so it can consistently one-shot hulks and chargers with a well-aimed shot, but keep the drag so it can be unique as a potentially high-economy backpackless AT with the caveat of being close-range to get maximum efficiency.
Oh yeah, and enough demo force to break a radio tower.
>>532309119>if they just make it so it powercreeps the quasar out of existence and has no tradeoffs whatsoever it'll be maybe kind of sort of sometimes be kind of okay to bringk
>>532310147I will NOT play the squids
>>532309674I would change it entirely.
Make it a portable plasma mortar with no charge, but has to be deployed (by crouching) and remain stationary while firing (though warping would still work). Same damage as a max charge. It'd be useful as a AT solution without a backpack and for firing over cover making it unique and different from your other choices, while bringing its own limitations, like the inability to take out distant targets.
>>532310416Squids are fun. Leviathans aren't.
>>532310235>Increase the damage so it can consistently one-shot hulks and chargers with a well-aimed shot,the damage is more than capable of one-shotting hulks and chargers if you hit their weakspots. it's the spread, not the damage, that makes doing it consistently difficult
>>532310296I think it should only hit as hard as the Commando but have better AoE when charged up.
>>532310235>enough demo force to break a radio towerThat is, consequently, enough demo force to destroy a fence and container door. It is also enough demo force to destroy bug nests, fabs, and UFOs by penetrating their weak holes. Why are all of these things tied to the same demo force value when clearly some are game changing and others are just a mild inconvenience? I don't know, but Alexus likes to think it's intentional and realistic, despite that meaning the gas grenade is a more powerful demolition tool than a glob of superheated gas that can obliterate tank armor.
>>532265848>bringing a 3 shot heavy pen stationary reload weapon to clear chaff that swarms youHave fun retard, I'm just gonna use a grenade launcher
>>532310578If they wanted it to pierce armor but not break objects, they should have made it a microwave gun or something. Not necessarily strictly accurate, either, but easier to justify.
Why did they make the Epoch so shit?
>>532309674More splash damage and big AoE and fix the spray
>>532310814Because they use players as testers.
>>532309674This
>fix the spread>the same demo force as EAT>magazine capacity changed to 5 rounds per magazine, but spare magazines reduced to 2.>the "blue muzzle" flash gets synchronized with entering overcharge state>MAYBE a longer grace period before detonation. My gut thinks fixing the blue flash visual cue may be enough.I think that would make it good enough to be a serious choice without eclipsing other options.
>>532309674Fix the fucking accuracy
Keep the extremely dangerous full charge but make it pen more if you can time it
>>532310814Johan forgot to make the spread scale downwards depending on charge value. The reticle tightens, but it doesn't actually get narrower.
>>532310473I know it can oneshot them with a weakpoint hit, but considering the charge-up and timing needed to put out efficient damage, I think it should kill them from the front as well.
It already can do this inconsistently with hulks so I think it needs just enough of a damage boost to make faceplate and charger head shots a guaranteed kill, say under ~30m
I think they've got a problem of pitching ideas first and then designing their gameplay niche around the concept, rather than identifying unfulfilled gameplay niches and then designing a weapon around that niche.
You want a portable anti-tank weapon that can't destroy bug holes or shipping containers? Make it a radiation cannon rather than a plasma cannon.
THREE
MILLION
SEVEN
HUNDRED
FIFTY
THOUSAND
LEVIATHANS
Lobby, democracy decides.
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>>532311285>squid maps have SAMs now>find map with SAM in the middle>activate it>afkWhat's stopping you from killing a thousand leviathans
>>532311265Expendable spear. It simply can't lock onto holes or shipping containers.
*CLAP CLAP* COME UP PEOPLE LET'S GET THOSE NUMBERS UP!!!
>>5323113453/4 get in here
>>532309674>make the current max-charge damage the fixed damage value>make aoe size scale exponentially with charge level instead>get rid of dogshit spread>+1 to magazine>reduce reload time a smidgeit's literally that shrimple.
>>532310814At some point in the past they decided that the plasma rifles should have shit demo force so that you couldn't close every hole on the map with one scorcher magazine. They never paused to consider if a scaled up plasma cannon should be more destructive.
>>532309674Priority: unfuck the spread issues. Currently unusable in the state its in. Oh and sync the reload animations properly, fucking clowns.
2: demolitions force raised to 30. This is not a huge ask, its equal to a hand grenade. Having an AT weapon with an ammo pool sufficient for some light demolitions work creates opportunities for new and versatile builds, and I can't believe swiggers don't see it.
3: change the magazine capacity to either 4 or 2. It takes an even number of charged shots to kill anything of consequence and having an odd number triggers me immensely.
4: remove the self-destruct feature, have it fire immediately like the QC when reaching full charge. Skill issues aside, the risk vs. reward structure does not support it. You're potentially killing yourself and losing a difficult to replace support weapon, to deal less damage than an EAT/less than half the damage of a recoilless rifle.
>>532243706Fuck your mom bitch
I know I would
>AIIIIEEEEE the leviathan kill order!
we aren't even getting the fucking impaler or factory strider one done either, who cares
I'm convinced Pilestedt was the only competent person working at AH
>>532311793I will not be contributing to this
how is Alexus still employed
what a disaster
>>532309674There is no reason for it to have such dogshit ammo economy
>>532312232Piles literally got smoke up his ass like every other dev when the game launched and when the players rightly called him out on being a fake realism nigger while letting his team fuck the balance he posted sad poetry on xwitter.
>>532311625Do they? Or have you been making stuff up again
>>532312232I'd say the composer was competent. Overall music tracks may not be as riveting as those in HD1 but they're pretty solid.
>>532311625the SAM runs out of ammo
>>532302640>>532303223Im mostly just ahead of the group since i run light armour.
I would clear the bots on turrets and get in only for my teammates to come and throw a 380 or napalm right in the middle of the base while im inside chucking nades into vents.
I bait the bugs and throw some incendiaries or a turret to thin them out and for that i get to eat a grenade instead of them going in to destroy the tunnels because shooting bugs that are about to die is far more important.
>>532312506They used to run out of ammo. They don't anymore.
>>532311006fucking this people defending the current state of the epoch have to be trolling no way people thing this is a acceptable state to release a weapon you to have access to
>>532309674I dont get why people bitch so much about the demo force, it has like 5 other glaring problems worse than not being able to close bug holes.
>>532312841Do you know what patch that change was made? I had a SAM on a Leviathan mission earlier and it took down 4 of them before the missiles stopped launching.
D10
Bots or bugs
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>>532301342You're hitting AP4 weakspots that you can mag dump an AMR into faster, safer, and easier, Alexus
>>532312667Enjoy your purple hearts.
>>532312335Swedish employment laws. He hasn't raped or murdered anyone, so they can't do anything about him. Even if he kills someone, he'll just be held under house arrest and with taxpayer funded food delivery service.
>t. It came to me in a dream
>>532312952While not the worst issue, it is the most immersion-breaking.
>talking about the galactic war in game
INSTA KICK
>>532312952There isn't a single reason why it should have less demo force than other comparable support weapons.
Does the laser attachment actually do anything
>>532312841Not only they still run out of ammo, only one single SAM site can spawn, so you STILL have less objectives to do on squids because FUCK YOU.
>>532314694if you shine it at gunships, automaton police knocks on your door
>>532314228Thatโs fine, wouldnโt want to play with a no fun allowed autistic faggot like you anyways
>>532314724There was definitely a time when they had infinite ammo, because I've got screenshots of Illuminate warp ship graveyards with like 30+ destroyed hulks all shot down by the SAM sites.
>>532314694makes teammates avoid your crosshair/light of sight
Laser
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I have an idea for a strategem:
>orbital laser kaleidoscope
>several laser beams sweep the area chaotically
>do not target onto anything specific
>ignite anything on contact
>leave a burning trail
>weaker individually than the normal laser
I dunno what it would be worth but at this point, what other orbital/airstrike options are left? Apart from EMP stuff?
>>532314927Yep, but they definitely run out now, you will get ragdolled and instakilled by the leviathans and you WILL LIKE IT.
>>532299038Eats, GP, GL, EAS, crossbow, eruptor, auto cannon, commando, 500, 380, 120, OPS, walking.
The fact you don't bother with these tools is exactly why they should keep it like this.
Whats the limit to how far you can fall with the jetpack?
>>532315295>a guy with an AT emplacement can call it down on this cliff and wipe out every destructible objective on the mapdo we like this
>one objective left
>host gets killed by my ac sentry shooting while he's getting rammed by charger
>emote sorry
>kicked
Besides hosting my own lobby, maybe it's better to say nothing for plausible deniability
>>532315295Not that far, clearly.
>>532315563I think it's pretty cool to have as an option, honestly.
>>532297587Putting a human face on a robot is the sign of a coward.
>>532297587built for big brawnydiver cock
>>532315295I've jumped farther than that before and not ragdolled, that's fucking weird.
>>532315057>"The game needs to limit your options and double down on the meta. This is good for the game, actually."
>>532315563Someone with a gaysar, RR, EAT, or commando can do it too, it just takes longer.
>>532310814because I want a challenge and this gun is fun to build around
>>532314018>cant stand this faggot
>>532310592can your grenade launcher kill a bile titan in two shots? :^)
So the MO encourages triggering patrols for bug breach and Bot drops?
>>532316797Don't bother with an unwinnable MO. It's just gay lazy swedish retardation because they're on their summer break.
>>532249535i have lost interest after the last "major" content drop and this is actively making me want to uninstall.
I got a warning on the Discord for saying people should be more critical of Alexus.
>>532316946True, 3.5 million leviathan is fucking impossible.
I'm just gonna help botbros liberate Caorell then help bugbros liberate achrid
>>532317052The gay homo nigger devs will only accept the softest criticism from r/lowsodiumdivers and even then they have an intern collate and filter the top posts further.
>>532317052Did you expected something from a dev team that admitted they ONLY visit r/lowsodiumdivers
>https://streamable.com/jnx3ud
REMINDER: From Alexus himself, the Epoch is supposed to outperform all AT and anti-chaf options once "mastereed" What the fuck did he mean by this?
>>532317467I was hoping it wasn't actually as bad as all that because they somehow made a fun base game.
>>532318095I want to see this idiot show off what a "master" of the epoch looks like.
>>532318095Nobody unable to handle themselves on D10 should be in charge of balancing the game.
>game hasn't been in a worst state in months
>yep, time for a vacation
Hate sw*des so much bros
>>532318789I wouldn't be so upset if I didn't love the game.
>>532316084>ranged weapon shitterPlay melee or lower the difficulty.
>>532318095he's right though. Dead ass it kills 15 heavies per resupply if you know how to use it.
>>532317052I'm kind of loathe to discuss plebbit matters here, but I did start a thread over there about the absolute state of the Epoch and some users that replied were banned. One of them sent me some PM's after the fact informing me that he got permabanned and apparently placed on mute so he can't even appeal the ban. From what I could tell they were banning anyone who mentioned Alexus' name in any context that could be construed as negative (No naming and shaming rule) or people who they deemed to be making low effort posts (largely posts exclaiming that they wanted to post before my thread could be locked)
>>532318861>Play melee or lower the difficulty.what?
do you mean raise the difficulty?
>>532318889By that kind of metric the laser cannon kills infinite heavies per resupply. Probably has better TTK too.
>>532318903I don't understand how it's considered unfair shaming when the guy actively presents himself as the one in charge of balancing. If the balancing is shit, and most players will agree it's shit, the blame should obviously fall on the guy in charge of balance.
>>532318512>D10I would settle for dif6
>>532319089Keep this in mind whenever they say helldivers arnt actually an elite force. Its literally the devs coping and trying to pretend that everyone is as bad as they are.
>>532318903I blame the devs for stating that's where they get their feedback from. It's fucking retarded and obviously any janny on that sub can put 2 + 2 together and realize they are the sole outside influence on how weapons get balanced.
Which means the mods go on a powertrip to keep the sub "clean" or whatever, or the mods go on a powertrip and only keep opinions they want. There is no good faith with a reddit mod.
>>532319089>The video clip that made the devs change the difficulty indicator into a toggle
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>>532318903The main reddit sub has very strict word filters and even saying "game files" is enough to be reported for discussing leaks. To put into perspective, this main sub was not bootlicking hard enough that the faggot rejects went over to make lowsodiumhelldivers. This is the type of niggers that AH is listening too. Bootlickers that thought other bootlickers weren't extreme enough and even too whiny so they made their own hugbox. Fucking grim
>>532319089>Has EAT>"SAAAR I RELOAD YOU NOW">Dies
>>532319523>many of us have thick skin>we mostly real low sodium Pick one, man. The main subreddit isn't even spicy.
>>532319609Holy shit I never noticed that lmao
Grim
>>532319089Trying to use an autocannon against a bile titan is the greatest proof you'll ever have that the devs don't play their own game.
>>532318903And even with all this dev dick sucking they still ignore that sub in favor of the ultrapussified "low sodium" one, so those faggot jannies do it for free for someone who doesn't even know they exist.
>>532319523Didn't see you beat me to it, was still trying to find my cap.
>>532319071I'd say that there is a problem with society right now where there are people that are so desperate for a sense of community that they will pick something and then parasitically attach themselves to it. They start worshiping it in every facet of their lives and treat it as being infallible in some kind of creepy cult-like fashion. You see it with sports teams, people that latch onto celebrities, stuff like Star Wars or Harry Potter, or games like Halo or in this case Helldivers.
You say that it is rational to critique the dev's poor balance decisions. To them that's a nonsensical statement. In their eyes the devs cannot make mistakes. You can argue that there isn't any good reason for why the Epoch has fuckall demo force, and they'll just respond that it's not supposed to have demo force because of whatever bullshit came out of Alexus' mouth about made up weight of plasma. The devs said it's not supposed to. THEREFORE IT'S NOT SUPPOSED TO. End of story as far as they're concerned. To propose that the devs made a mistake, that their reasoning is flawed, and that they should change their decisions is heretical to them.
>alexus interview
>yeah melee pretty much has to be a meme weapon
>we're already pushing the limits on how much damage a sword can do, just swinging it
>and being up close is already detrimental
>rewarding the player for a risky strategy? no, we can't do that, we have realism to consider
>make an energy melee weapon? yikes...seems like you haven't thought this through ;)
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>>532319975>many of us have thick skin>we mostly read lowsodiumhelldiveres>we read report that summarizes the feedback "constructively">>many of us have thick skin
>come back after a long absense
>120 euros to buy all the warbonds
is it painful to farm those super credits cause that's kind of an insane price for dlc
>>532320183This isn't a new phenomenon by any means, it's always been this way. It's just another layer of control.
>>532320571Take this, you're gonna need it https://files.catbox.moe/9zymiy.7z
>>532319975>gets their player feedback from r/lowsodiumhelldivers, after its been filtered through somebody else>thick skin
>>532320571No its actually quite relaxing, plus you get medals along the way one of the fastest methods in the game. Warp pack makes it even quicker and is more fun. Throw on some music, get the arrow mod and you can quite easily complete and buy many warbonds. If you want to dedicate to SC farm only I highly recommend getting the newest first for warp pack so you can solo tele into bunkers (but its still most efficient to run with 4)
the best part about the alexus interview is that he confirmed he knows that he's hated
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d10 whatev
>>532321517>I just liek playing game
>>532321517I like it when the things I like are properly taken care of
>>532321681man is there a mod yet to replace the ugly black lady and ugly black man in my ship
I want beautiful aryan white people on my ship
not these stupid monkeys
>modders will add a million coomer armor mods before letting me replace the gross looking bald NPCs on my ship
>>532243528 (OP)Was there an update for the muh fuggin arrows mod
>>5323212933/4 still, join
>>532321991Its not that simple. The ship's crew models are hard-coded into the game engine, they are impossible to alter.
>>532320571To add on to what the other anon said, I find farming SC pairs great with watching a movie on your second monitor if you have one. As long as you're not watching a movie that really demands your attention then you can just kind of zone out and grind it.
>>532322324and the SC arrows mod has a vicious bitcoin miner
>>532321250What interview?
>>532315020orbital laser swipe (think a eagle strafing run but with orbital laser)
orbital transponder (warps you to the location you threw it to)
orbital democracy deliverance (rod from god with a big super earth flag)
>>532322324>he doesnt know
>>532315020Orbital Dark Fluid Strike
>using the tendie after having used marksman rifles
I LOVE LOSING A THIRD OF MY AMMO CAPACITY FOR THE PRIVILEGE TO DEAL 25 MORE DAMAGE THAN A BASE LIBERATOR
>>532322324lmao dumb fuck
>>532315020>orbital black hole detonator>sucks smaller enemies into it for a short time after which it explodes, dealing damage based on how many enemies were sucked inside of it. if it sucks in enough enemies, it violently detonates early equivalent to a hellbomb.
>>532323601Haha, don't you love having a dozen different assault rifles lacking in unique identities?
>>532321884I just play, i dont get mad
I jus have fun
Sven, make sure our game ships with an intrusive and obsolete anti-virus that can't stop Chinks from spawning SC into matches.
OH MY GOD, IS THAT CHUD TRYING TO MOD OUR MULATTO NPCS INTO ANIME WOMEN? LAYER AND WEAVE THOUSANDS OF ASSETS INTO THEM, WE CAN'T LET THEM DO THIS.
>swedes went on vacation with the new armor passive sound bug still in
good afternoon I hate swiggers
>>532319046Depends, I'd say it has worse TTK tho but ap4 weapons are definitely solid for killing heavies.
>>532318095>From Alexus himself, the Epoch is supposed to outperform all AT and anti-chaf options once "mastereed">lying faggot
>>532307501Since the flag can attach to pretty much anything it should be an AP4 weapon.
>>532326208It like putting it on the gas dog
>>532307709just pick it up and plop it back down again and again until it dies
>>532318095>once you master itDoes he?
>>532327645When he was given full control for Hello Neighbor 2, he removed hiding under the bed or closets because "these mechanics have no place in a stealth horror game" That tells you a lot of how retarded Alexus is.
some one make a new bread
COMEON WHERE'S THE FUCKING UPDATED ARROWS
You guys think they could have donated a little more money to that children's charity? I'm not wealthy, or smart for that matter, but for the creators of a game that had sold over 12 million copies within a year, I would have thought they could have kicked over more than four digits for the children. Even small-time youtubers or streamers can raise more than that.
do you still need to dive forward when firing EATs?
JEGA! WE HAVE REACHED PAGE TEN!
DEPLOY THE NEW THREAD, POSTHASTE!
Im gonna bake and use the robutt in the OP if no one else does.
>>532330376>give charity one-gorillion-and-one dollar>guy running the charity takes one gorillion dollari dont think they shouldve given any charity anything at all
Im gonna bake and use Essex the OP if no one else does.
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>>532326445Little guy loves freedom
Canโt decide if I like the purifier or scorcher more
Also what attachment should I throw on the purifier?
>>532329259In the thread that you can find on google
>>532329259It's literally IN THIS THREAD you fucking retarded gorilla nigger
>>532331184Just use the 2x/1.5x scope. Anything bigger is pointless due to the plasma dropoff and not worth the ergo loss