Thread 532470136

Not Done Eating Edition
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>Version 1.13.0 is now live!
https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/2679460/view/544472700657074186?l=english
>Metaphor: ReFantazio won Best Narrative, Best Art Direction, and Best RPG for 2024 TGA
>The manga adaptation of Metaphor: ReFantazio will be published monthly in Shueisha's V Jump magazine, with an anime reportedly in the works.
>Live Reading Event with Will, Gallica, Strohl, Hulkenberg and Grius voice actors will take place on 11/15

>Resources and useful links
https://rentry.co/MetaphorRefantaziovg
https://rentry.co/scenicvista

>Metaphor Manga (Chapter releases on the 19th of every month)
https://mangaplus.shueisha.co.jp/viewer/1023739

>How to Make an RPG With Katsura Hashino - Metaphor: ReFantazio (ENG)
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1EivtGe8xwfWrk7TXZbRqTgXmWk_iSnTW

>Metaphor Digital Artbook
https://mega.nz/file/VisTTLhB#G4epdYn-DfoS9QnkDccPaverj_LjwY35_VpCAsj8kTc

>Metaphor: ReFantazio Special Soundtrack
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kT8go1ScWljmvHOjpzywgsnV1fI036Ovg

>MetaphorFix (adds proper ultrawide, things, etc.)
https://github.com/Lyall/MetaphorFix/releases

>A Metaphor in Fantasy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-eFkMJzc6ow

>Metaphor Orchestra Concert
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwXSEndmlj4

>How many hours have you played?
>What day are you on?
>What are your favorite classes?
>Favorite BGM?
>Are you having fun?

>"How should I build my MC?"
Realistically anything works, you won't brick yourself even on Hard or Regicide. Common consensus is a hybrid STR/MAG/AGI is best.
>"What is the best team comp?"
Just about everything works, do whatever you like the most and it'll work on any difficulty.
>"How should I manage my time?"
There's more than enough time in the game to 100%, do whatever you'd like.
>"Which royal virtues should I focus on?"
Prioritize eloquence and tolerance and avoid courage boosts.
>Royal Slash scales based on the higher of your STR or MAG.

let's merge with /pg/

>>532470449
nah

I bet /pg/ wants any reason to not talk about persona at this point kek

>>532470468
/eog/ outlived us, it's over

>>532470818
/eog/ falls off of page 10 literally all the time and has monthlong threads

Moving to a slower board like /vrpg/ could help, less pressure to constantly bump the thread and maybe a clearer headspace for meaningful discussion.

>>532471351
If /vg/ gets any rougher during the usual off-hours here something like that might be meaningful, but /vrpg/ is about as dogshit as /v/ just much slower. Really we just fell off by being ever so slightly less active during an already dead period

>>532471351
It was already proposed before, but the schizos here are really insistent in keeping a /vg/ general even if nothing is being discussed.

>>532471521
really need to get over yourself

too much gachaslop and liveservice slops on /vg/
I don’t see any real reason to keep sticking around

>/vrpg/
ehhhhh the cons vastly outweigh the pros
It's not like last thread was especially slow, it was better than the last few threads actually since the concert happened

>>532472081
what's so bad about /vrpg/?

>>532472176
>what's so bad about the board that Reantacos got banished to

>>532472259
you're saying this while sharing a board with hoyoniggers

>>532472435
they stick to their gacha shitholes though. /vrpg/ is just a crummy community

You don't want Maria to be homeless do you

>>532472974
we're just moving son

I don't trust the opinions of anyone that posts regularly during these hours

https://x.com/stud_zero/status/1948234847505588356
Metaphor got the CEDEC award for Visual Arts Excellence

>>532473835
sir another DEI award has just hit metawoke

>the thread died during the same time window where there's been maybe 5 posts max from 1AM-8AM Eastern for months
Not really shocking

>>532471351
>>532471521
"Discussion" is just a buzzword you guys like using since you hate this game because of some nonexistent DEI boogeyman and don't want to see it on this board anymore
The irony is, if the Persona team ever collects enough testosterone in a test tube to actually show P6 to the world it's going to end up being the most incoherent reddit friendly left wing shiftest anyone's ever seen for fear of losing even a cent of burger dollars. Will love to see how the discussion goes for that

>>532477012
>Persona
You're the one playing the boogeyman card harder than anyone
/meta/ is literally the only reason I even bother with this board anymore. I’ve said it before, right after TGA ended I already knew something like this was inevitable. I’d rather we just move to some slower board, anything to avoid the constant chore of necrobumping.

less hyperaggression more gallibutt

we must gather help from our friends at the Metaphor Discord

There's a limit to how much of this stupidity I'm willing to put up with

/pg/chuds are laughing at us again..................

>>532481348
STOP IT
ITAI.......

All this shitposting about /eog/ meanwhile they're teetering on the edge of page 10 like they are constantly every day regardless of the hour

>>532484301
it’s more about the humiliation of being compared to /eog/ of all generals despite being the new forefront of Atlus

>>532484571
There is no comparison, /meta/ is more than twice as fast as /eog/

>>532484705
we're not fast enough to outpace post raidou demastered /smtg/ and we're nowhere near the traffic of /pg/. The only thing we can compete with is an IP whose latest game came out a decade ago

>>532484705
Do you really think klingerfaggot doesn't know that already

>>532484301
It's literally just the one nutjob posting between here and /pg/

still, idk why we don't just move to /vrpg/

>>532485872
that or we move to 8chud. The latest migration we had there retained a lot of /meta/ posters and it's comfier though the site is a bit laggy to use

>>532486069
>8chud
yeah no way
christ's sake no one is retreating into a hole because the thread got deleted one time during consistently dead hours

what do you guys even talk about nowadays?

>>532486332
louis gloves
fairy feet
the concert
the exhibition whenever a japanese person is brave enough to post concept art that wasn't released yet
mod anon's posts

>>532486332
Nothing. This game's story is an AoT knockoff, but it's too shallow to sustain any discussion like AoT did years after it ended.

>>532486332
this zoomer also recycles all his shitposts on end >>532486474

I remember when /meta/ was getting 200 posts per hour
you kids wouldn’t believe it

>>532487195
not a single one of your posts is funny

I'm just glad that shitty OP is gone lmao

>>532487508
are you scared of sexy women?

>>532487554
Didn't see any

real blackpill: the moment Vesk died was the moment /meta/ died

>>532488079
>Vesk died
???
she's alive though

>>532488079
>the moment someone who actually turned out to not be the only person capable of uploading shit for Atlus games got shitcanned was the moment anything happened to /meta/
I don't follow

>>532488218
All her stuff got nuked and she went back into hiding
I'm still pissed that the Metaphor rips archive got wiped with no backup, at least last I checked. A lot of cool UI designs and visual components from the game and event websites vanished.

Atlus fans don't even consume the kind of content Vesk was putting out anymore
/meta/ is slow because it's 1 game with no news besides marketing events aiming to string things along through the rest of the year

we need the rerefantazio switch 2 version

>>532488423
Vesk’s the only autist dedicated enough to rip and freely upload all the new Metaphor content and book releases, and /meta/ is too broke to afford anything, aside from that one Louisfujo who's well off enough to buy merch and fund the orchestra concert recording.

>>532488949
Wait for the Nintendo direct that will definitely redeem Nintendo's god awful showing for this year

>>532489028
I'll have you know that the future press guide still smells amazing and it still remains unopened

Rui-sama...

Sexembourger

>>532488949
The switch 2 would brick itself because too much Louis

>>532493397
true the re-release will have even more of his glory

bed breaking SEX with fidelio

>>532496747
are you a girl?

>>532497068
nope

Sex with eupha

>>532489028
>who's well off enough to buy merch
The concert louisfujo isn't the same as me who buys merch and doujins fujo. I also already have all the exhibition pictures thanks to a chinese friend who took them without permission but I won't post them because you guys suck

>>532502343
I'm the one who bought the concert and I did get some official and fan-made merch but I'm still waiting for bigger stuff like a scale. At least my canvas should come next week.
Shame you won't post the pictures, I'm still sad there was nowhere to see the archdemon Louis design. If you won't post them can you at least describe some stuff that wasn't talked about much?

Alright that's enough foolishness

>>532502343
post it

>>532503549
Unsure if you mean "wasn't talked about" by nips or ITT, I scoured a lot of nip posts during the first exhibition to know details and some said too much some said too little (and some of them were saying fake things).
Relevant to Louis, I know
>his archdemon/destroyer charadrius form wasn't designed by soejima
>concept art of destroyer charadrius looked more like a biblical angel
>Louis's black heart supposedly has golden veins and he bleeds golden blood (what?)
>Louis's archdemon form actually had gradient hair and deep emo-looking mascara which I thought is cute
There wasn't actually a lot about Louis which disappointed me, I remember hearing a nip post saying that his destroyer form was supposed to have flower petals falling but that was fake (or I didn't see it, I dunno. It's definitely not on his overall description)
Non-Louis things
>eugiefs were deer people which you can see >>532257686 that I had posted as a test
>rhoag were originally based on liches but that was changed, you can also see paripus were just kemono furries
>actually a buttload of tribes were just furries (paripus, eugiefs, ishikia, clemars)
>there are traffic lights and plastic cups in euchronia
Unsure what other things are relevant to people that isn't already knowledgeable or what isn't.
You can see a bit of the concept art wall here in this jp page https://www.gamer.ne.jp/news/202503070037/ and even when looked at directly, there isn't a lot of commentary.
The spoiler section only has the outfits at the endgame, the King archetype design, and a whole wall dedicated to Louis. But aside from picrel, they don't have much commentary about him. I only cared about Louis and More and there's barely anything about either aside from Louis's archdemon design and "proto" design

>>532505685
Oh yeah, I forgot about Louis's extremely slutty looking "4" on his thigh. It's real. This artist also placed the "Louis's own sin is that of Envy" which was also in his character notes. The real "4" on his thigh looks better than this though

>>532505685
yeah some of this stuff I heard before but some also not, so thank you! I would have loved his archdemon form to have more mascara....
I think the only thing I heard but was never sure about, was that there was something about why Zorba was so loyal to Louis. Do you know anything about that?
Not hearing more about Louis and More in relation or even about More himself much, is a shame, too. I'm still coping a re-release might give us that.

I do hope we get an actual artbook soon and they include more stuff. Was your friend in Tokyo or Osaka? I read there is some new stuff in Osaka.

>>532506772
they shouldn't have removed this, it's pretty hot

>>532507543
>was something about why Zorba was so loyal to Louis. Do you know anything about that?
If it was an specific "he's loyal to Louis because (reasons given)" no, there wasn't anything. I think it might have been someone's wishful thinking, but there's only a vague "he's very loyal to Louis" (which is just his regular description).
Some nips were saying that supposedly the Prince's expression sprites were new but they were already in the first exhibition and I guess it's new to them but they don't know they're datamined already.
I wasn't in the Tokyo exhibit and neither did my friend so we can't say for sure what is and isn't "new" but according to some people, what was new was Alonzo and Bardon concept art circa their Re:Fantasy days. So, nothing about Louis.
More's art has him without horns so I think they were really insistent initially to make him supposedly like a "godly" being (that's also how he's described in the pamphlet, otherworldly)
I just want a proper artbook already but I don't know how much they'll milk the exhibition....

>>532507543
Mascara is pretty gay tbqh

Attendance at all these events is pretty high still so expect them to announce more exhibition dates down the line

>>532510639
>Attendance at all these events is pretty high
Not really, you can look at the posts of the exhibition account and most days are pretty empty

>>532510841
I mean that just shows that they're not selling out like the first one

>>532510930
Anon, that IS the first one. The second is the same. Tickets are always available

>>532510639
doing anything but work on the DLC

Persona won by doing nothing

>>532511126
Won the shit game contest sure

>>532511126
>dude muh popularity
god forbid people like something based on it's own merits and not the fact that there's high schooler romance in it

>>532511126
>p3 remake fell off almost right away and needed an entire year to get anywhere near metaphor's sales by March
>surviving entirely off of continued P5R sales
>no new game besides a remake of 4 that will do even worse

>>532511617
A year and a dlc and even bigger discounts*

e33 sold 5 millions in two days

>anon posts things relevant to the exhibition
>/meta/ would rather keep shitposting about sales and flopping

>>532512003
because it's not us, it's still that one guy mad that ffxvi lost at the game awards

>>532511838
>3 million sales in a month with a huge marketing stunt well beyond the means of any JP dev besides maybe Square Enix (doubt they can call up their prime minister and ask him for a plug tho)
Weak

>>532512446
we’re barely scraping 2 million after nearly a year without a sales update and people out here were assuming it already hit 3 million or someshit

>>532512003
>hurr why is there shitposting in the general does this game actually suck??????
Stay on /pg/

>>532512708
>barely scraping 2 million after nearly a year
That's P3R. Metaphor did that in half that time

I'm still at the point of expecting King and Queen variants of the final archetype down the line. Mainly because of the dialogue everyone has if you give them the Prince archetype

>>532488572
https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/folders/1av2ofNwtgPpU6PHeTSzHUjYy18is0P2W
Here's a backup.

>>532513709
holy shit thank you so much
I was wanting to cook up some bullshit with them

>>532514419
Commit suicide

>>532515220
Better than that

Do you think they had plans to do the rerelease before metaphor even came out like P5? We do know from those leaked presentations that SEGA wanted a Netflix mobile game for Metaphor well before release (and before the Netflix mobile thing apparently fell through) so none of the current follow up they're doing is reactive in any way

>>532512003
It's a nice summary but not really anything new
Also /meta/ women are too passive aggressive

>>532522139
lel

El creatura

>>532528079
I've never understood these things

what a dumpster fire of a week

>>532522139
sound: >>>/wsg/5931395

>klingerschizo is a fujo
interesting lore drop

>edrama
I sleep

>>532533515
I reject him as one of us. He desecrates both Louis and Zorba.

>>532541787
Sex

fairy feet

>>532535535
wake up

Persona 6 flopped

>total britbong death
if some of these asian region countries go next this site might actually become usable again

>>532561979
I'm still here though

>>532563407
don't have much time left

>>532564652
nothing ever happens

the manga is too teen focused tbqh

>>532565667
Let's hope the anime is more true to the game then

>>532566112
Atlus had bettter not go with A-1 again because they seem to shit their pants whenever they have to adapt something with a real story in it

accept that this game flopped

Finally glows only pink
Yes I missed an emission color on the material
No I will not apologize

>>532565597
Yeah like on /meta/ lmao

>>532577881
please apologize

>>532585131
No

>>532577881
How do I make the sky look like that

>>532592881
Drive a Ford model T for a couple days

>>532565597
Things happen 25% of the time desu

Chink and SEAs would've liked this game more if they deliberately made it worse

>>532562642
Sex

>>532603608
it's dookie

ngl I lost all motivation to play after getting to the final dungeon/ louis month. everything has dread and anxiety making all fights a slog. and it takes in game days to do anything so essentially any choice I make I am wasting it with something else I could of done. and honestly the more I think about it the stupider the gauntlet runner/ other game mechanics I find are. like you can teleport using it cannonically but you just can't teleport to dungeons? only specifically to where the game lets you teleport so you are forced to waste days doing anything. archetypes are honestly all dog shit as well the only way to get the most use is doing some meta build. the dating simulator mechanic still being a thing for confidants etcs its just all so dumb and gay i never even liked that in the persona games and its present here in the not persona game. I don't think i will complete this game,

>>532610885
play e33 instead

>>532610981
>parry slop

no thanks I installed that along time ago as well. there is pretty much no good rpg now and life is suffering.

>>532610885
This has to be AI generated

>>532611654
He could also just be retarded

>>532611654
Doubtful, AI is more coherent

Originally I wanted to do this to commemorate 100 threads but I will be putting out Archdemon Will likely this weekend. I gave him Louis' sword to swordboard around on, but otherwise he will be about the same that he was months ago.

>>532611946
i am a retard yes.

>>532612698
nah you're good bro. I've been posting in this general for 9 months and I still haven't made past Altabury yet

>>532612640
looks dope mod anon

Our heroes

>>532613781
zorlica

>>532612640
>>532613781
based, looks very good. Everyone should get an archdemon form anyway in a re-release...
Do you still plan to release the Louis protag mod one day?

>>532613781
Gallica jerked off too much....

>>532612850
lol

>>532618806
How would this work

>>532611946
Banking on this

Floppage

>>532617792
It's possible but I couldn't get it to look good even after trying to rig the hair differently
Even on this model the hair rigging still isn't quite right but it's serviceable

type shit

>>532645371
Fairy wife

>>532613781
Jej

>>532657794
I figured there'd be more crossover art with Odin Sphere, but then again barely anyone probably remembers what Odin Sphere is

we should merge with /bag/

I'm merging with eupha's ass right now

>official 4chan notice on brits getting kicked off
it's actually over

>>532664392
>falling for that obvious fake image
snrk

>>532664392
im from cambodia

>>532669762
why?

>>532671121
bad spawn RNG

>>532671581
You don't say

>>532658317
No one remembers this fucking game because it was woke trash

>>532678065
I didn't think Odin Sphere was that woke desu

>>532664392
I love these dorks

Bros I just got this on Gamepass and bros how come nobody told me this is Persona but with different names for things?

Imagine being such a shit game that you couldn't keep a general going for even a year

>>532698502
but enough about expedition 33

>>532693846
we did

fairy feet

let the thread die this game was never good enough to warrant its own general

>>532711596
see
>>532704718

>>532710587
fairy butt*

>>532715789
why are they white

>>532716295
Skin color doesn't matter

>>532719536
it does when being white makes them ugly :(

>>532719791
The only ugly white people are burger women

>the anti-brown poster is brown
i, personally, could never have seen this coming

>>532720549
Anti-brown posters are usually SEA

white is right

>>532721248
>usually
Isnt that like 90% of them

Eupha is a little shorter, but her ass is a little bigger than the actual unironic succubus

>>532743253
ann skin color mogs

>>532743414
that's an actual Catherine model from Full Body actually, most of the character models aren't compatible with GFDStudio or any of the GFS stuff we have really because FB never left consoles and compatibility was never made, but some of them do open including the one used in the scene where Vincent wakes up the next morning after (not really) sleeping with her
Skeleton follows the same bone standard that P5 had so it's actually really easy to load P5 animations over these models. This was the first game that Studio Zero worked on but I am a little curious why they decided to practically start over with a totally different convention for Metaphor. Metaphor's GFS version doesn't have some key issues that P5's did including the fairly low vertex limit per mesh but none of that has anything to do with the deliberate decision to do all the rigging and bone IDs differently.

fidelio love! (sex)

>>532751590
SEA shitposters went pretty hard on this game, shame it amounted to literally nothing

>>532757774
For /pg/ this is the equivalent of this scene

>>532757774
AVRA

Which is more realistic, prequel expansion story where you play Louis or Will's mom?

>>532760170
nobody gives a fuck about the queen

>>532760170
I'm a Louisfag so I'm biased but what even happened much to Alice that would fill a story? She seemed to have lived her life in the sanctum, met More there and then died soon enough. If you would need to change the actual canon. I would like her to become the new Akademia master in a sequel though if More really moved on.
The rumored title of the re-release is still "Retold" so I think we will rather get a new take on the existing story with branches maybe.

>>532711596
this

>>532760170
i'd play will's mom if you know what i mean

>>532783753
...You're going to crossdress as her?

>>532779290
No eupha don't have unprotected sex with junah

>>532801973
where

>>532805149
tardera, same guy that had no idea tactica was happening and didn't know p grand stage was cancelled but along with everyone and their mother knew p3r was happening

>>532806009
I trust him

>>532810762
He did suddenly know what tactica was about down the line, yeah

SEGA insiders seem to know very little about metaphor, they got completely blindsided by it the first time

>metaphor switch 2
>it's exactly the same game with nothing new added
lmeow

>>532812273
it will look shittier than it already does

switch 2 metaphor will be exactly the same but fidelio wears 75% less clothes and "erm actually" lives and becomes a new party member ala royal akechi

>>532806009
he knew about tactica and teased it a lot, didn't seem to know anything about metaphor though since no leaks at all from him about that.

Gup

>>532820265
epic

>>532820265
cringe

>>532839050
sex with mariuh

>>532844727
the strongest character in the entire game

Junah is already set up to become a cat mom at the end of the game kek

fairy feef

Zorba

>>532873781
Gross

>>532859908
lol

>>532863829
Junah is set up to become fat

zorba with a BBL

>>532882247
he doesn't need one, he's got a lot of muscle

>>532880752
Body positivity wouldn't work in euchronia because public transport is still in its infancy and is class based

>>532869813
Giwtwm

>>532890806
> dragging him by the hair
Damn that fairy can be pretty strong when she wants to be

>>532895223
Slapstick Gallica has a higher strength stat than Basilio

>>532890806
Part of me fears the day when the manga puts Louis in one of these bits
At least with Zorba he's schizo enough that it would be appropriate

>>532900973
Are you afraid he'd act ooc? I think it's alright and at most it will happen when they are still pretending to be henchman like with asking about junah or the whole blood sacrifice.

he's right you know

Those who know

>>532900973
>At least with Zorba he's schizo enough that it would be appropriate
Why? Are you faggots so brainwashed by fujo propaganda that you forget that Louis doesn't really want to have zorba slobber all over him like a dog?

>>532911246
he's a tsun

>>532911246
what do schizo funny moments with Zorba have to do with fujo propaganda? You literally mix up 2 different things.

>>532911246
>Louis doesn't really want to have zorba slobber all over him like a dog?
proof?

>>532862680
Disgusting creature

Gallica sex

>>532905296
>got absolutely creamed for saying this
This is what happens when you make a thread like this too close to SEA bedtime

>>532927572
and Mothman

Louis sex

>>532947002
The real question is does she sleep with her students

>>532940363
Louis should have a big beer belly

>>532948825
yeah, me

>>532470136 (OP)
live

Plushes and figures finally shipped

>>532976038
Actually only the orchestra acrylic and the figures shipped, plushes still haven't

>>532980421
ToT

>>532980421
Gallica needs a human sized sex arc

Paripus sex

>>532981934
6'5 Gallica………. imagine…….

reminder

>>532980485
show us

>>532989692
they only shipped I don't have them yet...

>all atlus generals struggling to stay active now
Too much gacha shit on this board

>>532994918
gachaslops should have its own board

>>532995654
Yeah they should haha....

>>532994918
Blame Atlus

>>532995838
For what? Aside from p3r they've been putting out bangers lately

>>532995902
releasing slops too slowly

>>532994918
>the nature of general threads is to be a "live" ongoing place for discussion
>live-service games dominate the board
truly, i'm shocked

>>533004580
gachaslops are not games

None of this would've happened if raidou didn't flop

>>533006921
Raidoubros….

>>533006921
Raidou being the only thing coming out this year was definitely a mistake

Junah's cat mom future

>>532995902
The persona team not being able to put anything new out while hashino just had the best 6 month fiscal year of his career creates resentment

fairy feet

>>533019549
Since 5 years Wada says wait for it, wait for it in each new year interview, Persona 6 will really decide if Persona works with the new team. Anything else before was built on Hashino's vision.

>>533024459
And apart from P5R doesn't sell as well as hashino's current vision
Still unreal to me that reload sold only 800k all of last year when it had an expansion come out

>>533026219
Hashino was still behind P5R during the early planning phases since that occurred before P5 came out and he was well aware of plans they had for Goro for example that he alluded to in the "redacted" part of one of his interviews

>Hackshino dicksuckers ITT
Just because a clock is right once in it's lifetime doesn't mean it's not completely broken.. Hashino's original P5 was garbage and everyone and their mothers has completely memoryholed it thanks to Royal (not written by hashino btw). And despite what the anti-reload schizo says, Reload is fine. Miles better than the garbage that P3P was.

>>533026983
Utter seething

>>533026983
go back to bed Wada

>>533026983
>trannylation: P5R is for braindead zoomers while real P5 wasn't

>social media presence of Reload was 2x what Metaphor's was for obvious reasons
>Reload sold 2x slower

>>533028503
This is really because p3r got spotlighted by SJWs for the English dub and the game came out right at the time all their attention was focused on the Sweet Baby controversy and panic because young men were starting to turn on them

reload was on gamepass day 1

>>533027984
You're unlucky that Metaphor's eventual re:release will rely on hackshino again and you'll get Metaphor's Marie which is a Totally Real Girl from Utopia (isekai'd japanese girl).

>>533031217
>Metaphor's Marie which is a Totally Real Girl from Utopia (isekai'd japanese girl)
plz god no anything but that..........

>>533030146
Gamepass is a nonfactor for both of these games, only P5R had any significant downloads off of there

Would you rather see metaphor be milked to hell to the point you'll see Will's face in your cereal or would you rather metaphor be flopgotten and get "Atlus's abandoned gem" videos within a year?

>>533035987
why not they just use makoto or futaba if they're gonna censor the oufits

>>533035987
Neither
I want it to get new content and then a new game and then a new game after that

>>533035987
I want Metaphor Dancing, Metaphor Musou, Metaphor Fighting game, Metaphor Anime, Metaphor Strategia, Metaphor Q and even Metaphor if…

>the persona fanbase needs people to believe metaphor (a game with real sales numbers and not steamchart autism made public) flopped in order to function
Grim

>>533044098
It's just the SEAs that need that

>>533043869
Metaphor 2…. when?

>>533050192
2040

Louis needs to be reoccuring in every Metaphor game as the Lucifer / Char. I won't accept anyone else, noone will ever be as beautiful and based again....

>>533050610
looks like a lesbian dork

>>533050610
Why would you want his character arc to be ruined just for the sake of needing to flick your bean

>>533053340
I just want more and a good writer can make something in character as his next step, dying is just an easy way out.

>>533053740
You can get more through backstory or mid-game events from his POV, but trying to undo his death is shitty and it's reminiscent of how P3fags somehow still believe Door will be revived (he's been dead since 2006)

No one's tried it since the ffx-3 concept so they can have a character LARP as Louis' son or something

I larp as Louis's wife haha

>>533057276
I hate twitter humour so much its unreal

>>533026983
>p3p is bad
>reload is good
i can literally hear the brain matter leaking from your ears, PLEASE never disgrace my sight with another post again

>>533050117
made for will's cock

Did updates ever make the PS5 version run better or is PS4 still the way to go? I'm finally getting around to playing this.

>>533069273
PS5 was always the better option than PS4, you were basically trading very minor slowdown in two parts of Grand Trad for there being no antialiasing on the character models at all
t. played both versions of the game

>>533067679
Zoomers have to come up with drastic ways to compensate for how their education systems are fundamentally worse than what boomers and millennials had

pushing 40 btw

Sexemburger

Chadshino is the king

fucking fidelio over a table in the gauntlet runner loud as fuck and nobody says anything about it!

>>533032797
I love this little part here

>>533104753
mhmm

Trying to play Monark and it sucks how much all these devs really wish they were hashino's team even when they're going out of their way to pay homage to games from way earlier like smt if...

zorba

she a nine on a good day but 10 on her bday

Metaphor won

>>533122496
..the flop award

>>533078163
They’re compensating what exactly with that shitty fag humour?

>>533113537
cute...

>hashino releases game
>sells a ton of copies
>fans of non-hashino atlus game cope out the ass

>>533141253
i'm genuinely shocked reload didn't even crack 1mil copies, lol. i guess that's the power of the persona newgen

>>533141253
>>fans of non-hashino atlus game cope out the ass
?

>>533141732
It did, it took over a year + a DLC but it made it past 2 million copies. It moved under 1 million last fiscal year

>>533142170
>game needs almost half a decade and a rerelease to get to 2 million sales
You shouldn't have just posted the image with no context it comes off like coping

metaphor sold 3 copies and the company went bankrupt

Finally got my PS4 copy of M:R delivered and I really hate my overly autistic need to play on physical only but whatever. it’s time to see what this Shin Metaphor Tensei is all about.
I’m going in completely blind, I’ve been avoiding anything game related on purpose, so starting on Hard is reasonable I guess, just in case it actually has some challenging gameplay mechanics. I’m not expecting much, but I just know I will absolutely miss demon summoning and complain about it the entire time.
Also the UI reminds me of Dishonoured a bit

>>533150584
play e33, it's the better game

>>533151998
he's right

>>533155863
>he

>>533156707
sorry, they're right

>>533151998
Why? The game's fun so far. My only complaint is that the whole introduction/tutorial part is overloaded with exposition.

>>533159474
just kidding
we’ve needed newblood to keep this general going. please post any questions or interesting stuff you find here

>>533159474
>>533160226
The Protagonist is the Prince's tulpa, More is the King who is the Protagonist's father, Louis is an Elda, Eldas are humans all along.
Now go away and stop playing this worthless game

>>533162010
I don't care about JRPG stories.

>>533162339
then why are you playing a jrpg let alone an atlus game

>>533162010
I am well aware of the fairy plot twist, it was all over /pg/ remember? and I don't care I just want to experience the game myself, so no need to pull a "Nanako is the killer" on me, Anon.
Plus, I really like the gameplay and characters, Strohl especially seems intriguing.

Today is just not klingerschizo's day

This is /meta/'s fate >>531538825

>>533162010
P3 Reload is the worst Atlus game of all time

>>533172868
>Atlus game of all time
I know you hate reload but Soul Hackers 2 and TMS still exist

>>533175112
One has way better combat, the other has way better dungeons

>>533171221
damn that's /eog/ speed

we need more newcuties to keep this general alive

>>533175112
SH2 is not as bad as some portray it to be. I did enjoy playing it.
>>533175137
Also, it’s a shame she’s just a navi. An Airborne Fairy Assault would be extremely effective targeting the (head, eyes). Fairies are really underrated as combat units, which doesn’t make much sense but it’s easy to explain why.

Louis sucks

I feel retarded for brute forcing this Homo Fulquilo thing fight, I probably should’ve approached it from the Magician Archetype angle, especially since it's weak to bufu. It looks like, the MC should’ve had that Archetype levelled up enough but I’m kinda tried and want to go to bed already so I just used three Warriors plus bought five Frost Magatamas to give me the tactical edge for healing and that’s it.

>>533183503
that's slower than /eog/ desu
but it's funny because miside was such a big thing for awhile

Katawa Shoujo still has a general after all this time. With enough autism, any general is eternal.

True Chad game

well you guys have been doing some nice work with the concert. ty!

>>532507543
i thought the zorba thing was "his fanatacism comes from hidden feelings regarding his birth" which could've been taken to either be zorba's birth or louis' because it's put vaguely. or maybe that's something else.

>>532509102
this has all been interesting. ty!
is there anywhere you would be willing to post the rest of the pictures? it's okay if you don't want to though.

>>533111991
it's just grindy.
the best grind spots are the special phone numbers called something i don't remember. just google it.
the puppets you get are decided by your highest sin stat at the time you get a new one.

>>533111991
these ones i think

>>533172868
not when last bible special exists

>>533222142
>>533222846
yeah I've been going through that, I can't tell how to get some of the later numbers to work though they're probably a reward from clearing specific other numbers

>>533226526
idk about that because i still haven't beaten it and haven't gotten very far.
i grinded a lot though so i'll probably be good for a dungeon or 2 before having to grind again.

i also found out about varlet.
https://www.cs.furyu.jp/varlet/en/
it's a sequel or something or just meant to be simliar in some ways .
i should really go finish monark...

>>533230324
Varlet is made by the Crymachina studio with staff that worked on Monark basically, that game is a guaranteed flop though, it comes out in less than a month worldwide, there's been 0 marketing and NISA didn't even do a thing with them for a collector's edition
The only thing I might earnestly be looking forward to from Furyu is another Caligula game since 2 was miles better than 1

how long do you think it would take euchronia to develop plastics based on the kind of pseudo-modern innovations they have already

>>533238307
There already are plastics

>>533239027
They don't have shakes or ice cream cones in the final game tho

Sex and I mean SEX with Eupha

>>533242087
We like that

>buffs are stackable
I'm not sure how I feel about this. Does it mean there is buff skills gradation as well? Interesting.
Also is Strohl the law representative? He has that Jonathan undertone to him, heavily implying he’s law aligned and I saw a church building in the capital, so… I hope he's not. I'm starting to like him, and that would ruin it for me.

>>533247114
Strohl is absolutly not law, don't get ideas like that. Someone unrelated to the party could be seen as that maybe but Metaphor never goes that hard into any allignment ideas beside Louis whole idea.

>>533247830
the church and forden are law aligned

>>533248521
only Rella is true law, Forden is just a powerhungry fag and the church itself is too corrupt for it

>>533248941
law can't be corrupt and controlling? yhvh says hi.

>>533247830
>a noble man with a strong sense of justice and order who wants to change the world for the better
I don’t know, Anon, he really looks like a law character to me. But if party members aren’t being used as alignment reps here, I’m totally fine with it. I just really don’t want to end up fighting him or rather his law themed, angelic Merkabah archetype, or whatever that might’ve turned into.

We must purge the mustari for watching Tokyo's hardcore sex with handholding JAVs

>>533239027
>>533239697
Adding to this, the main cast explicitly has no idea what plastic is when they find it in the dragon temple

>>533251014
Handholding with Gallica…..

>>533255920
Gallica would skip handholding and go right to sex just because she knows Eupha wouldn't

I keep acknowledging my anxiety but it just gets worse

>>533261271
You remind me of someone… do you also hate yourself?

Post babs that can overcome their anxiety. I'll start: >>533261271

>>533265880
>Zorba scene
>"This sounds very gay"

>switch partner direct
It's time

>>533268607
I don't think they would announce anything besides p3r at that. That game is in dire need of another sales boost

metaphor royal coming to switch 2 with swimsuit skins for everyone including both the brothers!

Sex on the berg

Sex with her beloved prince

>>533269670
I wish but I think they know people would shit on them endlessly if a re-release comes under 1 year after release. But one can hope anyway

>>533279279
People only shat on the p3 dlc because it sucked

>>533279279
That's why they should announce The Metaphor Dancing game!

It's so over

what will be the next cope when there's no metaphor switch 2 and metaphor dlc

atlus is a group of bums

Rella and Louis FUCKED

>>533285010
cute and canon

Looks like you were supposed to get some sort of skill at some point during the stat growth section, based on the old kings (Adventure King, Mage King, War King) but this was removed

I just have to say this and don’t get me wrong, I’m not complaining. Not at all. In fact I find this very intriguing. But what exactly was Atlus going for here? What did they mean by this? Am I supposed to blame Marie for being in this kind of mental state, projecting her own desire for a nursing figure or should I say a mummy archetype?
>>533290313
It's a shame they dropped Grius like that. He was a good man, what a tragic way to perish. He deserved a fair fight, at least.
>>533294363
Imagine how long it’d take a fairy maid to do her job. She’d be even worse at it than Kawakami.

>>533267968
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_F6pRMQ72c

>>533267968
Zorba isn't gay

>>533309605
true worshipping Louis is almost like kneeling to a god, nothing gay about that

>>533296025
>It's a shame they dropped Grius like that. He was a good man
rip

>>533314348
thats what a real man should look like, not louis twink

>>533296025
They don't work like personas, archetypes are all embodiments of past kings that failed to make a utopia. The later ones even use the weapons of notable ones from history

>>533296025
This is a side detail from a social event that you can't do until near the end of the game, but Sanctists have written stories about fairies that could disguise themselves as humans to do things like make human clothes. It's doubtful that those stories are 100% fake but Gallica doesn't really comment on it at all either way.

Verge of Life and Death from the concert I think is my favorite of these new song versions
Grand Trad day + night is gigakino but the guys on the violin went absolutely ham in the former

>>533319805
I get it now, this makes sense.
But still why is Maria even aware of this venus-body-type monarch? The most logical explanation is that her barely there reading skills somehow let her get through a history book chapter about this local Catherine II with Wu Zetian characteristics, who was famous for her rather charming shenanigans, love themed adventures and a reverse harem probably too…
Maybe I should just keep playing and let the game answer everything. But crafting theories is one of the best parts of playing big rpgs for me, especially ones I'm not yet familiar with.
>>533322257
As humans? Like full sized humanoid tribe members not the homo demonica things, right? Although, that would be funny. I've never heard of fairies disguising themselves as mortals, so it could be interesting.
What really intrigues me about fairies in M:R is that right at the start of the game Gallica mentions how music was (or still is) the first manifestation of magic. I wonder what the implications could be. Could this elemental nature of music mean something deeper?
I mean what does music actually do? It reaches the mind, maybe even goes deeper than that pouring directly into the soul, stirring something inside, AWAKENING emotions, thoughts, and feelings. So in a way, it SUMMONS something from the depths of one’s being.
And with that in mind… could this magical nature of music be the key to reviving the long forgotten art of Debiru Samana?

>>533326428
>reviving the long forgotten art of Debiru Samana
just have to handhold the cute brown girl to do that

>>533326428
She gets into the guy's house by LARPing as a hot girl and has to undo her disguise to make her magic threads

>>533330207
Sounds cute and all but I just happen to prefer hand holding a COMP for this kind of activity.
>>533330497
Well, that’s certainly unexpected. I wonder what kind of disguise it really is. Shapeshifting, perception manipulation, light redirection? Most intriguing, indeed.

RUI SAMA

>>533352210
Sex

Sex of the berg variety

fairy feet

>>533285010
True

Bardon

>>533372719
Surely there's a Bardonschizo out there somewhere

>>533372719
im ridin with bardon

Etrian Odyssey VI announcing today

>>533385927
lol
lmao

Metaphor would have been an easy port to announce, that just makes me more sure they will actually wait to release on the switch 2 once they have the re-release ready

>>533372719
made for sex with men

>>533388205
>that just makes me more sure
too much copium can kill people

>>533388869
I'm an Atlus fan for over a decade, I'm already past taking disappointment too hard

jerking fidelio off while he's sitting on my lap! him shaking like a leaf and moaning into my neck while i'm bigger and stronger than him in every way!

man that nintendo presentation was a complete shitfest

>>533391698
it had some things i was personally interested in, but that's because i'm a hyrule warriors/octopath cuck. it was pretty shit for the majority of people though i agree lol

Damn, I really love the gameplay. It’s still simple and easy, sure, but it’s also fast and punishing enough in most cases. The animations are great, and the dub VAs did a solid job too. It hits just the right balance for me, feels pretty refreshing.
I really need to stop being so dumb for believing what people say. It’s the same thing that happened with SH2. I wish I had played this much, much earlier ideally at launch. Maybe I feel this way because I wasn’t expecting much from M:R
Also, it would’ve made more sense if the archetypes were genius loci based, but I guess Atlus wanted the player to focus on the characters more than the exploration. And the game really needs a morality system, ideally ME-like one or maybe I’m just asking for too much.
>>533346967
>>533364431
The necromancer guy looks like a FE3H character this is why he HAS to die. The second I get to him I’m HAMAing his ass to death and pierce his heart with an aspen stake so he can never crawl back from his death hole.
>>533388205
After playing SJ and Redux I’m not sure if rereleasing M:R is a good idea.

>>533393867
>morality system
I feel way differently about these than I did when I was a teenager, morality systems often lead to the overall story of the game not really meaning much of anything at all. You can even look at Catherine which sort of did a morality system centered on how one character viewed relationships and whether he was going to take responsibility for his not actually pregnant gf or not, but what that game comes down to in the end is that you can decide whatever you want when it comes to the relationship you want to be in. It's like, okay, but coming into this I don't think I needed someone to tell me that, and that's not a fantasy I think I needed to live out in a video game either.
I feel the same way about Mass Effect and games in that vein because even with rare exceptions like KOTOR1 where the end of the game is actually drastically different despite the final dungeon being the same, the morality system is just letting you dictate the flavortext that comes with an immutable scenario. Mass Effect across 3 different save files with a ton of little flags that influence minor things culminates in 3 slightly different colored variations of the same ending and they all mean the same thing in the end.

>>533394816
I wouldn’t expect the protag’s morality to have drastic implications like completely different endings just because he was a meanie a couple of times. But what it does give you is a way to react to scenes, add some flavour to interactions and create minor consequences. Maybe even slightly influence your party members’ alignment which is why I brought up the ME system in the first place.
You could say it’s mostly cosmetic in terms of gameplay and that’s fair. But that’s exactly why I love SH, it has the Demon Personality mechanic. Is it game changing? Of course not. But it’s fun.

>>533386737
don't laugh when /eog/ is faster than us next week

>>533400896
/eog/ was still twice as slow when our last thread died lmao

>>533393867
There's a translation tool for the glyphs if you want to try it out yourself

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Zos5D4nIVsSCVa2yZ87yUMGjcEcMRX8MGJ8Gy5RIRH0/edit?gid=987344978#gid=987344978

atlus please give us the port release on switch!
this is post 10 year no new game /eog/ we're up against!

Metaphor won't get a port announcement until after sales start to slow down

>>533401178
>Esperanto with extra steps
Why? Because of the whole tribes thing? I don’t hate it, really. I just expected it to be more of a Greek/Roman hybrid for some reason.

>>533404720
Esperanto is a politically neutral language

When are we getting news...

>>533405970
>metaphor
>news
lol. be thankful we even got mentioned on their official twitter for selling 2 million

>>533407719
>we

>>533405101
It's not exactly politically neutral but whatever. That aside, what are the odds that all the tribes developed languages similar enough to lead to the creation of Metaphor ciphered Esperanto of all things?
>>533405970
Soon hopefully

>>533407858
100% because finish the damn game

>>533408004
I'm giving it my all, Anon. Playing it as best I can...

>>533409253
don't mind the chud, he's scaring away newcuties again

>>533407858
aren't the songs all in "esperanto" already?
fake esperanto but esperanto nonetheless.

>invent this moment in SMT3
>history of doing it in the velvet room fights from P3-P5
>originally planned to have a moment like this in Goro's first form fight even
>do not do it once in metaphor

>>533422475
>originally planned to have a moment like this in Goro's first form fight even
really?
>do not do it once in metaphor
good. but iirc the dragon god can get healed a bit.
and rella heals the ice dragon fully after you take her down.

>>533422475
I would have killed myself if Louis (forma de 12 turnos) fully healed itself so it's probably for the best. It'd be fun if it was in harder difficulties though

>>533422931
Sogne's thing is a bit different but yeah thays the closest thing the game has

>>533423252
i agree it's a bit different because it's not a superboss and he goes down quick without rella's magic shield.
but it does still get fully healed.

fairy feet

/eog/ just raped my kids

>>533434084
we know, klingerschizo

>>533445525
canon

>>533426161
cute and funny and canon and stolen, thanks bro

stop being dead

The switch 2 flopped

>>533422931
>really?
Halfway through the fight before he becomes black mask during a point in development where you fought him on top of the cruise ship, he was supposed to heal to full and start using stronger magic. There was working dialogue + camera angles and the AI script was fully written, but ultimately this got merged into the fight with Cerberus and Cu which was originally drafted as a separate fight right before this removed one and both got sent to the engine room.

>>533479976
it would've made more sense if goro didn't have the 2 shadows helping him because he rants about comrades but i guess with them he also gets to show off his berserk ability

>>533480928
He just makes them fight for him which doesn't really go agqainst anything

>>533481446
it also leads to an exploit where you can skip prince goro with an aoa

>>533481821
I don't think that's been in the game for awhile because they made it impossible to knock down with crits I think it was

>>533481907
it was at the very least in p5r's ps4 version

>>533475743
God I wish she would look at me like that

Well, fighting the necromancer guy turned out to be anticlimactic. I bet he teleported right after that dramatic rooftop jump, so I guess a rematch is coming.
Still, the hall scene was fun. This is exactly why authoritarian cults of personality suck ass.
And I do wonder if it’s really the RNG gods smiling upon us thing or if the game just conveniently drops you two Agi Igniters in this dungeon?
Anyway, I guess it’s time to get some SLs done now. Maybe there are more requests coming too. And it’s hilarious how bad Atlus is at portraying racism. Not a single soul called me a filthy N’wah or S’wit. Come on now… I hope it’ll get worse. I want more of that Igniter Shop treatment or how the church bossman refused to bless my stuff just because I’m
>MAG lovin’
>tradition humpin’
>treachery plottin'
>virtues lackin’
>good for nothin’
>ELDA

finally finished monark, was a quintessential 6/10 game and I hope Varlet is better
characters were decent, story was overall pretty mediocre
Furyu has a tendency to publish games that can't put any money into having a proper ending, makes me thankful for Atlus every day

>>533495973
>monark
Is it better than Caligula Effect? I only managed to play about 5 hours before dropping it because the whole game felt awkward and bland. Although, it did have pretty interesting combat mechanics.

>>533496038
Louis gets to have sex with THIS?????

>>533497856
It's better than Caligula 1 yeah, neither are as good as Caligula 2

>>533496038
sex

Flop

>>533503406
>mmmm yes… Filet Sloppeno de la Yukiko Mignon… exquisite….
Why is she like this?

>>533496038
>>533497949
Imagine the ass of their offspring, can't wait to see them in Metaphor 2

>>533493284
>game gets constant praise for not depicting racism like some BLM shitfest
>still gets comments like this from time to time

>>533503263
The E33 thread is
Oh wait there is no E33 thread hehe

>>533505475
>>533496038

forden fucked both of them

>>533511335
2 inches isn't enough to get anything done

>>533505521
>racism can ONLY be portrayed either as some over the top BLM reference or as vague, throwaway dialogue lines from NPCs
Yoooo, DAS RITE! I wanna see Hulkenberg and Gallica yelling Elda Lives Matter every time they open their mouths and where’s my right to loot stores at????
If you don’t get it let me be clear. I think the game should’ve at least went for Arcanum-level racism. Not ideal, I know, but it would make a lot more sense. And no I don’t want this to be the game’s central theme like some current culture reference nagging thing.

>>533513904
There's nothing vague or throwaway about elda racism at all. If there was anything vague it was the competing elitism between clemar and rouissante and there's still an entire character dedicated to that

>>533514746
>there's still an entire character dedicated to that
Hm, maybe this will get interesting after all. Looking forward to it then.

Where are the sex scene or romance mods? Mod anon was showing edited cutscenes months ago but for all the shittalking /v/ does no one's put romance in the game yet?

>>533522127
Can't animate fairy feet

>>533529290
>he did the goborn dungeon after the cathedral
Filthy casual

>>533522127
Mods of that scale require effort and nobody cares about Metaphor THAT much to put in effort.
P5fags are out there making Shimire of all things a character with her own campaign and dialogues while all we have is just "Brigitta's clothes on Will"

>>533530775
This game is such a massive flop

>>533530775
Someone is literally making a multiplayer mod for Metaphor. That's way more substantial than any existing persona mod

No one but a tiny group of people with no skills for modding cares that there was no romance in this game is the real answer

>>533530775
I smell seething of the persona 3 variety coming from this post

>>533530130
Sorry... I only started working on the social stats after I finished the dungeon and I completely forgot about Brigitta too.

>>533531646
Why even though? How do you even multiplayer Metaphor? Does everyone just play a respective character at the same time?

>>533538654
>play as gallica
>sit on the shoulder
Kino….

I really love the current cast’s dynamic, don’t want any new characters but I can already tell more are on the way. I feel that same post-Madarame palace melancholy again.

>>533551584
where are you at?

>>533551584
Metaphor does a better job at keeping party members relevant than P5 did desu

>>533561074
Really it's more a matter of metaphor's story being considerably shorter and not episodic in the same way.
/v/ and the P3 crowd tried literally for years (which I always thought was funny because P3 basically spun a wheel on which character gets more than 3 scenes to themselves across the entire game), but this was always difficult to present as a flaw with P5 to most people because each character more or less getting a single arc dedicated to their character development was well within expectations and a well liked story format, and the arcs in P5 were lengthy with none of the problems the P4 arcs had. Getting rid of the party social links was also a very unpopular view that basically the same people spent years trying to push because as it turns out most people really enjoy being able to engage with the characters on their own one-on-one.

In Metaphor in some ways it feels like they regressed back from P5 to P4 era 30 minute character stories and until you get to the Magnus brothers you never get the sense that anyone besides Louis has more than or even as much going on as the average P5 character, especially Strohl who they try to compensate for by having him take an active role in things the party does, which is I think something Metaphor does do better with the party than any Persona on its face, but in reality his entire character arc is shorter than Yosuke's in P4.
This is a much easier flaw to present (and also imo one of the big reasons why P3's resurgence from the remake heavily waned) because the problem is an inherent lacking of something and it's a lacking that stands out because unlike P4, which could get away with this by being a soulless SOL anime first and a persona game second, Metaphor is something actually worth taking seriously and so it then begs the question why Klinger escaping is basically the end of Strohl's character when he didn't even get a full dungeon focused on him.

>>533565229
A little more I want to say on this -
Another different example is Neuras. Neuras is fucking awesome and his McGuffin quest ends up being both painless and fun because his dialogue is so good, and I do think Metaphor generally does a great job having the Follower events follow a coherent theme like P5 while also being a bit more varied, but he's in the story less than Fuuka is in P3 or Haru is in P5. You can make the argument that this doesn't really matter because Neuras is more of a supporting character and you might put way more focus on the social link structure than someone who absolutely hates it because it's harder to digest, but again setting aside your opinion vs. someone else's, that inherent lacking is something fairly objective

tl;dr I explained why /pg/ regulars are still completely outspoken and metaphor's writing deviated from P5 in some significant not so good ways but also a couple good ways

>>533534287
>he didn't figure out how to optimize the content that was in the demo when the demo launched
Ngmi

you're gonna see less metaphor mods because modding metaphor is less streamlined.
someone here with actual modding skills still has trouble with some things. how is the average person going to mod metaphor?

>>533565229
what do you think of haru's arc in p5/p5r?

>>533561074
>>533568352
It’s not about better or worse, it’s just my autism and personal preferences. I’m not a huge fan of world saving squads. I prefer when the party is relatively compact like a Beatles-style team of four, and that’s it.
As for my Very Important Opinion on the M:R SLs, that’ll have to wait, sorry. I haven’t experienced them all yet. I'll just tell you that I really like Strohl and want to see more of his story. But anyway I’ll probably end up loving most of them, considering I even enjoyed the social interactions in SH2. Plus, every character I’ve met so far has been pretty likeable, except some and...
>Neuras is fucking awesome
Yeah, this. I can see why someone would say this, but I just can’t stand this character trope. I tolerated Mordin long enough in ME and Futaba in P5, etc to finally realise I really hate it. His SL better be so damn good that it changes my mind but we’ll see.
>>533568735
How over is it for me, Anon? Be honest.

>>533583702
>I prefer when the party is relatively compact like a Beatles-style team of four,
i feel you in some respects. p5's party dynamic gets less fun once makoto joins.
i like makoto as a character but i don't like how the party bends over backwards so she can be "smart."
and then haru is barely a character.
futaba is alright i guess.
yusuke is still based.

i don't think metaphor really has a problem with its party getting less fun though.

>>533584392
I really hope you're telling the truth, but I need to experience it myself to either confirm my concerns or hopefully be proven wrong.
As for P5, it's kind of funny how about 70% of the non-party-member SLs easily outshine the main cast's except for Ryuji and Yusuke. But I guess only the rushed development is to blame for this.

>>533585785
you might feel differently and that's fine.
either way, hope you have fun!
the one exception to my thoughts about p5's party is the casino but that dungeon was fine tuned to be the best

>>533588663
Eh, I don’t know, for me the best one is Okumura's palace, but Sae’s casino is pretty good too.

>>533589272
what do you like most about okumura's palace.

i enjoyed everything about the casino.
but i mainly brought it up for the cast interactions.
it's funny seeing everyone toy with goro or egg him on.
they kinda do the same thing with him as makoto but there's a reason for it this time around.
they're just making him feel important but they could've done most of the casino on their own/found their own way to do things.
i think the only time they're genuinely surprised by him is when he cheats the coin bridge, which serves as a reminder to take things seriously.
but mostly, goro falls for their deception because he gets off to being seen as important.

i guess i'll mention the cruise ship for being somewhat neat in that each party member gets to do something important in it but i also hated how methodical it all was, especially from an exploration standpoint where you just do the same puzzle 4-5 times in a row.
but iirc royal fixed it somewhat.

>>533577031
No one here has actual modding skills

Finally came up with a battle select script that actually works. Some of you might've messed with that discord made mod menu awhile ago (or the newer one on gamebanana that stripped all the stuff that didn't work out lol), but if you tried you could get into a fight by calling the ID but as soon as it was over if you tried to go to any new map at all, including if you tried to reload your save, the game would explode.
Turns out the reason why had nothing to do with the battle functions but what they were doing to reposition you on the map after the fight.

>>533610882
Actually there was also a problem with the battle functions they were using and I ended up rewriting that whole part too since the game randomly started hanging on a loading screen permanently but that is now also fixed

>You can actually load field maps in battle mode but not the other way around
What the fuck

Can load event maps too, what the hell
I can probably use this to get around a bunch of the crashes I was still getting trying to map out all the IDs for every field

Yeah this works way too well, the game knows to skip all the NPCs in the layout file too apparently. I think this game still uses the same battle layout files that P5 does so all it would really take is a modified one of those and you could get some kino battle arenas out of the normally explorable areas
Wild, I'm guessing the reason why this doesn't work the other way around is because of what the game has to load to get normal or fast battle mode working

fairy feet

That aside, regarding what I was actually supposed to fucking do today, I started digging into the layout files to figure out exactly how to start changing things that get called in there. With minimal screwing around I enabled freecam in Akademeia, but beyond that it looks like all of the map pieces get called in here which means maximum fuckery (hopefully)

oh fuck

Alright assholes there's your playable Mage Academy map, using the original ENV and layout files the game calls for the cutscene and for the Sogne fight
the whole thing has existing collision but it's pretty unfinished and you can clip through some of the snowbanks, there's invisible stairs heading in the direction of the academy building (right in front of where I'm standing here) but that is literally it. There's nothing else

>>533623589
There's tons more to look at but I'm done for now. More is now homeless. I hope you're happy.

>>533595734
>posts that aged poorly

Let this shithole die

>>533633307
I refuse.

>>533592157
I'll keep it short since I’m on a smoke break.
For me Okumura's palace is the only one in the game that nails the concept, like it actually reflects how he sees his employees and company through gameplay mechanics. The combat feels like a puzzle at times. Like it has that one part where you have to pay close attention to what the shadows say to figure out who to target, and a lot of the fights are timed. If you want the best results, you need to be both fast and strategic, EFFICIENT just like Okumura wants. It all makes sense thematically and mechanically.
Now, take Sae’s casino. Why a casino? She didn’t climb the ranks through sheer luck she got ahead by manipulating outcomes in her favour under the table, everyone knows casinos are rigged but she supposed to represent legal system which shouldn’t be like that. Her palace would’ve made more sense as something bureaucracy themed, like twisting rules, creating loopholes or manipulating systems, casinos have strict rules and control, they don’t change the rules on the fly. But I guess a casino just looks cooler.
Then there’s Kaneshiro with a bank. Why a bank? Just because money is involved? He treats people more like livestock than clients milking them dry, and then disposing of them when they’re no longer useful.
Madarame’s palace looks good, sure, but it doesn’t do much beyond that. It lacks meaningful gameplay integration.
Also, if Atlus had the balls, they would’ve made Shadow Kamoshida a sheikh instead of a king, but I guess the desert theme was already reserved for Futaba.
That’s why I like Strikers. The themes are better. Alice’s jail is fueled by trauma and delusion, so it’s Wonderland, Natsume’s by pride he’s got the protagonist syndrome, and so on. Also it’s nice how Atlus tried to connect party members to villains thematically it was the right step forward too, an awkward step but nonetheless. But still P5S has its issues too. Post is too wordyalready, sorry.

>>533642710
I had the feeling you were going to go full retard one of these days but it's a shame it happened so soon

No one here needs a reminder of why talking to persona fans sucks thanks

>>533645429
Anon… It took everything in me to swallow my pride and come to terms with the embarrassing truth I like SH2 way more than P3(R). I’m painfully aware of how retarded I am, believe me. I’ve been judging myself for it ever since. My opinion is wrong and it’s definitely not the one you should listen to but I was just answering the question, you know?

>>533642710
you make a lot of good points. i hadn't considered the timed mechanics as tying into the themes of okumura's palace but i see it now.

but i think it makes perfect sense for sae's palace to be a casino and you even explained it yourself why it works.
>she got ahead by manipulating outcomes in her favour under the table, everyone knows casinos are rigged but she supposed to represent legal system which shouldn’t be like that.
you just don't seem to like that a rigged casino is being used to represent a rigged justice system.

>kaneshiro bank
he sees people as atms because they're just money dispensers to him.
>madarame's palace
i agree there isn't much gameplay mechanics that tie into the themes. there's the sayuri puzzle where you have to pick the real one.
that being said, the museum is one of my favorites because it feels comfy in some ways. it doesn't have any annoying parts and it's easy to complete optimally because they kick you out so you can't 1-day it.

>Also it’s nice how Atlus tried to connect party members to villains thematically
i liked that about strikers too.

>>533642710
oh yeah, and why:
>Also, if Atlus had the balls, they would’ve made Shadow Kamoshida a sheikh instead of a king
where are you going with this? i don't get it.

>>533646591
die chud

>>533658316
>you make a lot of good points
No he doesn't lmao

>>533653831
SH2 basically is a better game than Reload though, but a broken clock and so on

>>533628914
How so? No one gives a fuck about any of this as you can clearly see. All metaphor mods are flops too. That retard should've modded persona 3 instead because all of this is a waste.

I thought /pg/ was supposed to be the most active general lmao

>>533672865
they are
we're dead last with /eog/

>>533658316
>casino is being used to represent a rigged justice system
I’m not sure that the idea of a casino would be interpreted that way by the CU or Shadow Sae even. Most people know that the odds at a casino are stacked against you, but there's still a chance to win. It’s rigged from the start, sure, but not entirely hopeless. Casinos are usually seen as chaotic and unpredictable.
On the other hand, the justice system is supposed to be a rigid, sacred, lawful machine. Machines don't make mistakes or at least, that's how people tend to see them. Especially in a country like Japan, where the police are largely respected (or even feared), the system is trusted to be right. So even if someone is falsely accused, it doesn't really matter because if the system says you're guilty, that’s considered the truth. And what Sae does is twist that system. She subtly manipulates the data those ones and zeros to get the outcome she wants, and benefits from the illusion that it's all fair and objective. Casino doesn't capture this feel quite good.
>he sees people as atms
ATMs just spit out money and nothing more. But Kaneshiro implies that if you’re not paying up, you’ll be doing something else for him, right? So he shouldn’t just see people as ATMs, but as tools with multiple uses, livestock basically. They're sources of profit, however he can extract it.
>>533658542
Why? I’m not sure… but given how Kamoshida views female students and uses Mishima as a eunuch basically, it would honestly make perfect sense to portray him as some kind of harem having sheikh, don’t you think? It’d be absolutely hilarious.
>>533666789
Maybe so, but I love that game. And it’s a totally irrational kind of love, so I’ll just leave it at that.
>>533677746
This gif reminds me of Toki, maybe because of the oversized mask.

Louis-sama....