Thread 532586971

Arbitestide vs vermintide

Previously on /coopg/ : >>532370675

>Latest News/Updates:

Vermintide 2:
Steam Hotfix 6.6.4 - 30th of June
https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/steam-hotfix-6-6-4-30th-of-june/110130

Darktide:
Free Update: Battle for Tertium - Out Now! (Patch Notes)
https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/free-update-battle-for-tertium-out-now-patch-notes/109117
Hotfix #72 (1.8.4) - Patch Notes
https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/hotfix-72-1-8-4-patch-notes/110661

>Acknowledged but not really discussed
Ready Or Not
Starship Troopers Extermination
Aliens: Fireteam Elite
Killing Floor 2
Barotrauma
Left4Dead 2
SCP: 5K
GTFO
No More Room in Hell 2
Helldivers 2
Space Marine 2
Remnant 2
Payday 3
Back4Blood
Deep Rock Galactic
Earth Defense Force 6
WWZ
The Outlast Trials
The Forever Winter
FBC: Firebreak
and others

>Future games
Killing Floor 3 - 24 July
Den Of Wolves - TBA
DarkSwarm - TBA
Blight: Survival - TBA
Jump Ship - TBA

Build planners:
Vermintide 2: http://ranaldsgift.com/
Deep Rock Galactic: http://karl.gg/
Darktide: https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor

Felinid >:3c

>>532586971 (OP)
I finally got true survivor legitimately I'm fucking free I don't have to care about havoc anymore

Arbites slop in 2 weeks...

>>532587250
Grats, m80. I'm only somewhat envious

Man, the Clandestine Gloriana Rot Armor STG was fucking brutal. This special event's actually a lot of fun. Not seeing through the aids clouds is pretty fucking shit though

>>532588397
Do they have an infested armor type?

>>532587869
It's really just about getting lucky with the team. I had a vet with volley fire and an agripinaa vigilant autogun and he did great

>>532588397
>Not seeing through the aids clouds is pretty fucking shit though

>lights out and queef cloud
>completely blind while fighting

>>532588456
No, it's just Maulers, Scab Ragers, and Crushers that explode in pox gas when you kill them, but the game sends a ton of them at you. There might be more to it, but that's all I've noticed so far. That and the quantity of them

>>532588528
Yeah, I lucked into a team where we'd pretty much all done 40, and the one guy who hadn't did a 37, but we still almost wiped at the start when it put a DH in a place we couldn't (or couldn't figure out how to) sneak around and then threw a ton of fire/disablers/armor at us along that scaffolding area.

>>532588676
Yeah, that shit sucked

>>532588397
>This special event's actually a lot of fun.
Armor spam is always the most fun, but I think it's kind of lame that the aids clouds are massive visual clutter, and also wildly inconsistent. I feel like they sometimes don't damage you at all for some reason. Maybe I don't understand the mechanics fully yet, I've only played like 5 games of it.

>>532588813
Maybe the cloud density matters
>cloud from 1 infested is fine
>cloud from 10 dead infested is lethal

>>532588813
>Armor spam is always the most fun
True. It and monster mash are the only Maelstroms I bother with anymore since the rest are all just dumb special spam (unless I'm forgetting one). I've never paid enough attention to pox gas to know whether its effect is based on the air particles or the ground discoloration. I think it's the latter, but I don't know enough to swear by it. Seems like you can usually safely pass through the cloud once the shit on the floor clears up though.

Haven't played aurics since i got my havoc 40 host and true survive now doing it for the event. Why are giga shitter deadweights rage quitting a free carry? This is like malice for me yet they leave the moment they die to the first enemy encounter. Wtf causes this? Low iq?

>>532589267
Pretty much. It's always been like this

>>532589267
Why weren't you defending them? You're supposed to babysit them to the finish line. If you don't do this then you're a shitter and they'll look for a better teammate obviously.

I'm guessing the arbites gas mask works against infested clouds too

>>532589267
why do you complain if it's so free for you?

brutal

>>532589267
im only h30 but it feels like they legit lobotomised aurics. No horde density, sometimes less than one clump of specials per engagement; and sometimes the trapper/hound/poxbomber congaline putting pressure on the back doesn't spawn for a whole game.

Ever since arbites came out, there are plenty of times were the final objective just has a total of 3 ragers, 3 shotgunners, 2 snipers and then it shits out like 5 poxwalkers every 10s.

I remember it being harder, and there's no way I actually became a better player

Which Chaos God would he serve /coopg/?

>>532591296
Slaanesh

>>532591296
slaanesh obviously, right?
key driving emotion is jealousy, is in a constant state of being high/fucking or looking to achieve either. kills defenseless people because it makes him feel good.

He's not wrathful, coniving, or nihilistic, he's just some sadistic hedonist

>>532591075
a class with double damage, triple ehp, quadruple stagger makes shit easier, who could've guessed?

>>532591579
its easy on all classes, I used to die on aurics as ogryn.
The enemy count is way smaller than I feel it used to be, like the hordes aren't even big enough to max out the cleave on any particular weapon 99% of the time

>>532591579
But enough about ogryns

>>532591782
High intensity aurics has way more spawns than HISTG did before the arbeetus update

>>532591782
I don't feel any difference. But I definitely became a better player in this time because I only started playing like 1 month before arbites. I was playing aurics on all classes even before the patch though.
Go play maelstroms or something. Easier modifiers that give you around 55k ordo rewards feel like regular aurics, but starting with around 85k you get your favorite rager spam

>>532591075
maybe like havoc 20 but havoc 40 my entire pub squad is doing 1000k-1500k damage and the horde packs are THICK and require falling back/ repositioning

>>532592232
aurics were never on a level of havoc 20, they were like havoc 15 but without bosses

>>532592169
I'm mostly coming from playing a game last night on the radar mission, it was maelstrom 85k; otherwiise I wouldnt even bother. The last room legitimately had 2 snipers and 3 shotgunners the entire time, the entire game I kept noticing how the hordes were way smaller than I remember (about the same level that they were around the auric nerf)
Also it feels like maelstrom is now almost always in the 55-65k range, it used to be ~75-95k consistently before (at least thats how I remember). Similarly to you, I came back a month before arbites, I maxxed out ogryn and remember auric hordes that maxed out the cleave on the branx picaxe, they're pitiful now.

>>532592136
maybe I don't play enough aurics nowadays and my directors keep thinking im retarded, but I really don't buy that

>>532587250
>>532588765
>>532588528
When I got true survivor I played with a team a few times, then on the last game one of the psykers went smite build and suddenly we were able to just walk slowly and beat the entire level with no damage. I taunted and lead the bosses to easy positions. It was weird how we lost but got far the last two games, then it was easy mode. Any havoc 35+ you can just down to some random crap, gotta have easy modifiers too. I've had a smyker one other time and he was retarded and the other team members weren't doing enough damage to justify his pylon position.
I've had other games where the team just did really good and didn't die (until at the end they turned their fucking brains off and got sniped in the assassination mission boss room after the boss had died for fuck sake). It's a very annoying penance to try and get so I reccommend no one actually go for it other than just playing 35+ and hoping for the best. One guy I played with was being squad leader over the mic all game then instantly left the game when they psyker went down, the modifiers were hard too, what a bitch.

>>532592813
>Also it feels like maelstrom is now almost always in the 55-65k range, it used to be ~75-95k consistently before
I regularly see 85k and 105k missions, it's random

>>532592305
oh shit I misread, I thought you were talking about havoc. Yeah aurics do seem really easy right now. Like it seems like a normal damnation no modifiers before the update. Boring, even in maelstroms, when someone is just able to be two rooms ahead and surviving.

>>532592813
>but I really don't buy that
It is very obviously true and you can tell by the numbers on your scoreboard from before and after the change

>>532591561
>He's not wrathful
Are you sure? He threatens to stab a woman to death and "play with her blood" in the very beginning and then tries to strangle the gay guy, I could see him throwing his lot in with Khorne

>>532590948
You think this is bad? ths chicanery? now post the KF2 all time peak

should we even take lore power level discussions seriously?
judging from an outsider's perspective on the fanbase's reactions it doesnt feel that consistent?

>>532593348
the stuff he says in the beggining is in relation to his belief that "people don't see him", so he just said outlandish stuff to see if people were paying attention to him, both of those people ignore him proving him "right"

its an attention thing, he's not getting recognized and it annoys him that he doesnt stand out; slaanesh stuff

>>532593348
That's stupid. He is clearly most similar to sigvald who is a follower of slaanesh

>>532593750
Does the nigga really have to show off his thighs?

>>532594116
Just be glad he has a loincloth

>>532593629
>should we even take lore power level discussions seriously?
No the more you try to take it seriously the worse it gets
GW intentionally made the setting this way under the guise of >every book is written by an unreliable narrator

>>532588456
it feels kinda like they have dog's ranged resistance and melee weakness to me, but i think there's something more because my first voidstrike or 2 will do almost no damage but the followups do normal damage

>>532591075
wdym since that hotfix where they had hi intensity brign aurics past what they used to be, histg's have gotten crazy with the ammoutn of special spam they're throwing. Duo's are way more intense and ive had to change strats for certain areas of maps (like final subway of Logistratum) in order to compensate

>>532592980
it's pretty random, but honestly i think HiSTGs are strangely feeling higher difficulty than a lot of Maelstroms rn. I used to always play maelstroms, even the shitty ones. But now im only playing civi's and monstrous/3vegs and HiSTGing the rest and having decent fun for aurics.

Did KF3 flop?

>>532597101
No idea it sold a few ten thousand copies which isn't that much money for big game releases but honestly the game looks cheap as fuck so this might have been enough for them to turn a profit
In the end it all depends on how much, or how little, they spent on developing the game so far

>>532597408
This...
This says it all...

>>532597765
Yeah it says loads.

FUCKING ELVES STEALING MY MONSTER KILLS

>>532597803
>loads
No, it's
L O D S
OF E M O N E

>>532598286
ancient meme

>>532598105
What is this and what does it have to do with darktide?

>>532598105
>posting legend numbers
Lmao

>>532598487
actually this is veteran

>>532598286
probly

Reminder: Tripwire got rid of their CEO because he wasn't against abortion, and now the franchise is going to shit

>>532605092
That's good, killing babies is wrong

>>532606204
>killing babies is wrong
and bad

>>532606204
>>532606784
What if it's baby hitler?

>>532606923
All the more reason to save it

>>532593629
powerlevels are inconsistent.
This is due to the IP being very old, having been through lots of different authors, and is represented in different types of media that push the powerlevels in certain directions. (table top, video games, books, videos).

Discussions about powerlevel imo should be about compromise. Look at lore of inspiration then increase or decrease power until we can actually fit the thing in the game without completely breaking it.

killing children is based, the emperor said so

>>532593750
this nigga is warhammer achilles

Fucking error 2014 has become frequent now

>>532608762
but how is this possible when darktide released in 2022?

>>532608238
I guess it really sie one way gamesworkshop can ever explain balance changes, so the writers can do whatever they want with their dark fantasy lore stories

>>532608829
It has had 3 whole years to get worse

>first a shitter pulls a daemonhost and i lose half of my health to corruption while fighting it
>then another shitter pulls a daemonhost and leaves so it gets dumped on me

Sometimes you bump into someone with a S-Tier name.

>>532614340
what's the reference?

>>532614464
no idea what retarded gen alpha skibidi toilet humor youre referencing

>>532614340
I've definitely been tempted to make a Lowry arbites

>>532614584
it's an older game

>>532614340
mister of battle is still the funniest one

>>532614584
https://youtu.be/8PUCSyIkEus?si=sccAO0e9JORWZ0DH

>>532614584
>Lived long enough that you share 4chan with people who weren't alive when druids were posted on /v/ (pre-Youtubers, even)
Christ alive

ny1 wnt havc gaem??

>>532604747
What is happening here

>>532614626
calling it a game seems a bit generous. more like an interactive visual novel lmao
>>532614874
i would've never played this
>>532615112
im almost a decade older than that game

>>532593629
It’s not “that consistent” because very few people know how to gauge power levels correctly in the first place with even regular franchises, let alone one that’s been around for decades and which applies an “everything is (technically) canon” canon policy and generally get mind broken by the inconsistency even though this is entirely the point. If you’re talking about 40k in general, there’s plenty of ways you can reconcile the inconsistencies, just specify what it is you want and ask for the average, in the case of Darktide in particular it’s a bit more hard because we don’t really know how far GW/FS wants to push the scale on things, but what we’ve seen so far is fairly ease to judge and draw conclusions from.

>>532615421
Brother Demetrius unknowingly making use of his Porn Protagonist gene

Saars..

>>532596679
yeah, they explicitly said that they made histg harder and old high intensity modifier is built into aurics by default now

Is Darktide good yet?

>>532617768
some very avoidable problems got stamped out but replaced with a new one being the annoying grind

>>532617768
yeah it's pretty good
buy it now when it's cheap

>>532617768
Always was

>>532617768
Not good, but ok. Get it on sale.

>>532619224
it's on sale

kf2 negro here, how's 3?

>>532620240
>how's 3?
Bad

can't wait for duelling sword nerf which will make it a better devils claw
it's gonna be funny as hell when more people start using it after "nerf"

It's Fostover...

>>532620240
it's worse than 2 in every single way

>>532621059
And KF2 is far worse than KF1

>>532620838
Sounds more like a rework than a nerf.

>>532621175
well that's what they want to do
slightly nerf carapace penetration, slightly buff heavy attacks on non-mk4, and give them all riposte
and halve uncanny strike
mobility is untouched, so it will still be meta

kino

if you don't
>say 'hi' at the start and 'gg' at the end
>say thanks for unnets
>say thanks for dedogging
>say thanks when saved/picked back up
>say thanks when rescued
you WILL get kicked AND banned, don't test me

>>532621578
I don't do any of those things because I have never even once in my entire life of playing even once been netted, dogged, saved or rescued.

>>532621578
I am the silent hero archetype and i clutch your disaster matches, no thanks needed

>>532621146
>>532620240
Where kf2 was a still workable shooter that slightly missed the point of kf1. KF3 turned the IP into a shitty chinese mobile game that feels utterly devoid of soul, or anything that made KF special to begin with. The sheer drop in quality from 2 to 3 compared to 1 cannot be overstated enough.

Y'know I might be able to deal with havoc boss spawns if the game showed me more than 2 healthbars when there's 3 hex daemonhosts happening while we're already fighting 2 bosses

>>532624259
probably mods for that

>>532624356
Yeah, Recolor Boss Health Bars has that as a feature
Not that I would've known that if I wasn't paranoid enough to check but I'm happy it's there

>Psyker
>Dodge dog
>It visibly flies past my screen
>Teleports sideways and backwards to pounce me anyways
>Chainaxe veteran revvs up axe before hitting it off of me
>I now have 66 HP through no fault of my own
Why does Darktide have so much more forced damage than Vermintide? Hitless runs were so easy in that game and it feels like Fatshart added a ton of bullshit to Darktide because they didn't like seeing people regularly nohit cataclysm.

>>532624539
it just be like that sometimes

>>532624539
Even if I perfectly dodge a dog and the game decides it was a dodge and I don't tske any damage I still get staggered. This shit happens all the time, I hate it. Often happens when you push too.

>>532624539
>be ogryn
>get pinned down by puppy
shit game

Give me the FUCKING HAIRCUT FARTSHACK

>>532624801
>ogryn immune to dogs
>NOOOO MUH BALANCE
>archie gets immunity to dogs + mutants
>*crickets*
fair and balanced, ogryn should have been a DLC class

>>532624975
Skitarii are going to be immune to flamers and bombers because robots. Eldar will be immune to trappers (so thin they can just slide out of the net). Who will be immune to snipers?

Are there any good obscure coop games that people like? Not mentioned in the OP?
Preferably an replace to what KF3 should have been

>>532625340
Indie game called Darktide

any news for me ?

>>532624968
This would be kino thougheverbeit. Farty should really work on giving us new base customization options since the game has shifted away from being about dirty prisoners to being about Inquisitorial Acolytes, but the character customization is still stuck in the past.

>>532620794
Lol
>>532625119
I know you’re joking but it would actually be pretty cool for classes to have certain properties like that. Too bad it’s too much effort for them. Imagine a game where the Ogryn could punch down walls and stuff.

>>532625453
Yes. I killed two of them last night with that ramen flour method an anon here told me about a while back. Hopefully I will kill more of them soon and display their bloated carcasses so the rest of them know to stay off of my turf. Maybe I’ll even order some Ratshot off of Amazon or something. Fuck rats and fuck the cucks who think they’re cute.

>>532592968
It's crazy to me that people have forgotten all the absurdly powerful shit that Psyker holds. Imagine if Psyker was released as a DLC class now. Reddit would whine even more about "P2W".

>>532626554
Psyker also tends to die if he fucks up, so no one looks at it. The average player fucking sucks

>>532626161
Hello Cane Anon

>>532626554
>buy "p2w" class
>take 2 hits from poxies to the back
>die
People would be mad alright

I'm going to log in to my Ogryn and play some Aurics. I shall be using the Shield and a Ripper.

my ogryn >>>>>> ur stinyk ogryn

Why was the previous thread nuked?

I have 600 hours in the game and only now I am finding out that the voidstrike staff exists

nevermind ill just get 2014'd instead

>Dog gently pushing poxbursters off the tiny Oblivium bridges
Cute

I've completed 5 of the new event missions and none of them have counted

>>532626161
>display their bloated carcasses so the rest of them know to stay off of my turf
glad there are fellow rat haters in this general in the art of effigy crafting

>>532627857
Glad I'm not the only one who noticed that
What's funnier is that the one I just did counted it as a mission for my Melk's

So killing floor bros how bad is it?

>>532628340
Consoloid game like SM2

i want a dedicated healer build for darktide. give me a book in the gun slot for zealot that heals people whenever i shoot at them with it

>>532628463
Sm2 is at least better than kf3

sm2 is cringe parryslop

>>532628517
That'll be an Admech ability
>Feed him a heal stimm
>He can now give a heal stimm shot every 60 seconds

Started playing Zealot and FOTF feels so fucking good to use. That 20% attack speed feels insanely good on these slow ass weapons

>>532624975
Dog is the worst thing they've added to this game and they should remove it entirely

>>532628340
it's playable but it's not amazing

>>532626554
If you actually knew how to play psyker it was the best class in the game pre-ogryn rework. Now it's probably the third best if you're not a retard.

>>532624975
Ah yeah, because your dog is supposed to stare while a poxhound is on you for the sake of muh balance. And always remember, nerftroon, you lost.

>>532627687
Become a voidstrike chad

>Shop with 4 SLOT of craneal augmentics
Wasted chance of put helmets and weapons to make extra money, Fatshark

>>532627671
would also like to know

Ninjabros you can't parry with Kunai right? Or is my timing THAT bad?? But I could parry with Kiba so I think it's just not a thing with those...

How do I build the inferno staff for havoc?
Penetrating flame + blaze?

Has anyone figured out why you are intentionally matched with people playing the same class as you? It seems like the game should be doing the exact opposite of that and yet it consistently happens.

>Felinid
Felinigger

>>532629664
voidstrike was good when it was only me and 3 other retards using it

They really should sell cute or sexy cosmetics. I'm not talking full blown gooner stuff like First Descendant, but I would buy some nicer hairstyles if they were in the shop, or maybe some sort of death cult bodysuit, or a fluffy noble dress, or some such.

>>532586971 (OP)
Before playing psyker I thought he'd be my least favorite, after unlocking assail he's my main. When I max him out I'll start playing veteran
Any perk tree ideas for spamming the fuck out of warp spikes? Right now I main them and switch to my sidearm to cool down, trying to use the peril damage perks like with Sienna.
Important to note I'm level 27

>>532628463
How is sm2 console
>>532628691
True

>>532631147
short answer yes.
long answer...
blaze is a must
penetrating is very common but i feel it's overrated because it's still going to take a long time to kill crushers with it. But then again the only alternative would be warp nexus and that's not a complete game changer either.

>>532631208
Sorry buddy the Chinese who model this garbage rarely care about things like looking nice

>>532631185
Before the big talent rework voidstrike was the best thing in the game. Miss those times, especially on archivum sycorax when it freshly released..

>>532631208
you have two forces that fight against sexiness and one force that would implement it in a heartbeat
>anti sexo
Fatshark themselves and Games Workshop
>pro sexo
Tencent would give you SEXOOOOOOOOOO in a heartbeat if that meant more cosmetic sales

>>532631185
Yeah, im seeing it more often now. Same situation as helbore I think.

>>532631234
Something like this. I marked the most important nodes with yellow, but you can make changes to the tree if you want.

Cleave works with assail shards, making them penetrate more enemies.
Having 100% peril gives you more cleave.
The outermost node on Scriers Gaze (F) makes you able to cast infinite spells at 100% peril, so you can unload all of them if you want.
The Keystone also makes them cleave even more targets.

Best paired with the VoidBlast staff, because it lets you dominate Crushers and Bulwarks, the main weaknesses of Assail. It's a staff that gives you a lot of defensive power.

>enemy stuck in wall
>takes minutes until game realizes it and just kills him
lmao

>want to use the mod that lets me customize weapon sights
>remember hourly out of memory crashes
how do i cope using the infantry autogun, cant aim it for shit with the stock sights

>>532632304
either time the memory leaks and restart the game before it happens, or use the executioner stance to make iautoguns steadier

>>532632304
Install eapon customization, weapon customization no sights plug in, and crosshair remap.

Set the infantry autogun to have a crosshair when ADSing, remove the weapon's sights, and disable all the bloat features of weapon customization

>>532632304
>>532632479
Nvm i didnt read, killing myself

Crosshair remap still helps without weapon customization tho

>>532632423
guess ill try to get used to them
>>532632479
>>532632595
i actually prefer the sights on weapons because i cant see the crosshair very well but thanks for the suggestions

>>532631234
>warp spikes
Is this the stealth vet

>>532632237
>no empathic evasion
shit build

>>532632794
You're not gonna get hit by ranged attacks if you have assail. There won't be any ranged enemies on the fucking map because assail takes them out before they have a chance to do anything. With all that toughness from scriers and the top nodes you're already a tank. But by all means take it, I don't care.

>>532628691
darktide is cringe slideslop.

>>532633295
sorry didn't realize it was a malice build

>>532632776
I do construction and them look like railroad spikes

>>532632237
>staff
Eh, I like going gun+sword+magic and spamming the fuck out of each, I stay away from staves because of the overheat

>>532633397
it's an auric build

>>532633431
that works too, no problem

>>532632304
I remember when fatshark said we'd get proper weapon customization, but then we never got it.

>>532633365
correctest answer

>>532633629
This isn't call of duty >:(

>>532633431
>overheat
install skitarius, itll block all inputs until you arent overheating anymore

>>532633745
What about my duty to serve the emperor?
Isn't that a call of duty?

>>532633490
Gonna try that build at lv28 using heavy sword and laspistol
Wish me luck

can I actually do damage with palpatine lightning somehow and not just "WoW anon you're so cool for bringing it for Pox Hound modifier"?

will 10 euros suffice to buy the arbiter duster and face+head combo for psyker?

>>532633779
>install this cheat

>>532633779
How about you learn how to fucking play the fucking game you fucking stupid gorrilla monkey retard

>>532633875
yes, but there is zero actual reason not to play purgatus staff which breaks the game entirely

>>532633875
just bring shock staff

would it kill fatshark to give anything other than a portrait frame as the event reward?

>>532634103
I wanna do the penance
>>532634114
see above

6 more days and we get a new hotfix.

>>532634151
whatever do you mean anon?

>>532633851
good luck

>>532633875
If you want actual damage combine it with the flaming Shriek.
Otherwise, Empowered lets it kill poxwalkers at an acceptable rate, alongside scab/dreg trash. Shotgunners will get grinded down eventually over a use or two, which is mildly useful when you've got a big crowd of mixed stuff.

>>532633995
>>532634075
dont play the staves then and or enjoy blowing up

>>532634340
Weapon skins would be great, it's the only thing on my character I regularly see anyways

I'm gonna need two shields for this one.

Also I love the shot pistol. It's so cool

Does this seem like a decent psyker build for H40 or is ir completely retarded?
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9f79c5e8-c232-4d50-8362-85329db7939b/psyker-build-12

>>532634390
I had fun, the ability I gotta get used to since I mained the force push or whatever its called

>>532634862
i dont like your resolution. how far away from your face, approximately, is your setup anon

>>532634862
wiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiide

>>532633365
That’s why I don’t slide

Hey if the Arbites dog is biting an elite can you guys do what blacks do and jump the guy while he's being mauled? Those ragers are pissing me off and downed me

>>532635238
About 1 meter. Maybe slightly more. I use this monitor, I like it.
https://rog.asus.com/us/monitors/above-34-inches/rog-swift-oled-pg49wcd/

>>532635542
Yes. You can hit them and shoot them while they're getting mauled.

>>532621578
I only say hi if someone else does it first, but basically always say gg, unless it was genuinely a bad game.
I thank for basically any intentional assistances, from pin rescues to getting incoming attackers away if I was doing objectives.

>>532635701
you either have good eyesight or very overpowered prescription

>>532635701
>>532634862

>>532635542
>arbites with the dog dying to ragers
Go back to malice retard

>>532636351
thats a very large screen and at a meter that would fill up your entire field of view, but a meter should be about standard, that should be outside of your arms length

>>532636668
I didnt buy arbites, I got jumped by a pack of armored ragers as a psyker. Kept spamming assail trying to cut through the dregs and the dog was taking forever to kill him.

>>532636198
Yeah I know, I'm asking everyone to do it for tanky enemies

They should do a test for friendly fire on. Imagine if your dog blocked your bullets. Imagine if you had to actually watch what you were shooting. That would be true difficulty.

>True survivor who ping shit with his lmb
Ok I give up. Even retarded mouthbreather can get that title

>>532634862
based gigawide gamer

>>532631208
I don't see what this would accomplish when there are only 1.5 acceptably attractive (5 or greater) female faces and they all have bodies that are somehow scrawny and fridge simultaneously.

Cadia?
More like CACAdia!

>>532637269
try blocking

is there a benefit for charging flame staff to 100 as opposed to 60%?

>>532638319
Doesn't help when there's 4 of them hitting me from all angles

>>532638518
you'd be surprised what you can get out of by holding block and trying to backpedal or dodge away, esp if you have kinetic deflection. Aslo try using the tack axe, it's push attack and heavy staggers ragers

Is grenada spam vet still a thing

>>532370675
where did all the posts go inn last thread

>>532637893
But then how would blind people play :(

>>532615221
Maybe one day little one

>>532626161
i kneel…
>>532631234
kek

>>532635542
My ass looks like that and does that

>>532639418
Jannies have been randomly and periodically deleting entire threads that have reached bump limit for some reason.

So ogryn and zealot are lv30, psyker would be if I didnt waste time trying to find a mortis trials lobby with other players. When does veteran get fun? He's lv8 and I don't like his ability and I like using ones that do damage or stagger

>>532641490
>When does veteran get fun?
as soon as you get weapon specialist and play melee vet with self reloading quick switch ranged weapon of your choice
>stagger
voice of command

>>532641490
never
vet sucks

I hate being a vetranny so fucking much I keep getting mogged by Arbites every single mission and there's literally nothing I can do

>>532643419
true as fuck sister, arbites needs nerf

Arpigter

The emperor himself just beamed this idea into my head so I spent 1000 hours in mspaint to make it happen

There are a lot of good sounding talents that refer to perfect blocking, but I don't trust myself to actually consistently do that during a match.

im kinda looking forward to let it die 2 which should have coop
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1UR4uCFFN8&list=PLSgHfvCDyQ8C9o1VYMSRxExJ70HJYFABZ

it seems like akira yamaoka is responsible for the ost

>>532643854
>Pump action curved AK magazine Mossberg 500 assault rifle
I need a chip in my head to stop me from seeing sloppa

>>532645739
Sounds like an even fight.

>>532644636
blocking is the least used action, you have to go out of your way to make use of them. I have no idea why Fatshark keeps adding these things and giving them atrocious cooldowns on top of it.

>>532641490
Executioners stance basic Vet is peaked and balanced for fun at about normal damnation, before that there's not enough stuff to shoot with to do anything, and past that there's too much shit and you'd have more fun playing literally anything else.
Leveling vet is painful especially because the base F ability is useless and boring. Get to commanding shout and regenning nades and it's more fun.
But also pretty much all the other classes are more fun right now. My vet used to be my most played.

Is the arbites grenade upgrade talent really just holding 4 instead of 3? No damage or radius or anything else upgrade? That seems kind of lame if so

>>532641490
take bolter pistol
power sword for if you want to damage carpace
knife if you want survival and damage carpace with bolt pistol
take stealth, people will call me names, dont mind them
take grenade regen both nodes
spam nades into hordes
bolter oneshots snipers and twoshots most other enemies with 5% crit chance, its amazing
when in danger, surronded or panicking, pop stealth, let the ogryn and arbs deal with heavy aggro situations, they dont care, reposition do objectiives or keep spamming grenades
stay out of melee when possible, you regen hp when not targeted by melee for a period of time making you nearly unkillable when facing ranged enemies especially if you killed 1 or 2 special enemies prior
vet is not brainless but i consider it to be 3rd easiest class to play

>>532647035
It's 5 instead of 4 and a replemishment every minute

>>532645775
I like Yammy but the guy has yet to top what he did with SH2 being frank

>>532648761
we call it power creep

>>532648761
>replemishment
Karl Pilkington?

>>532648761
He's OP so I bet if I buy him he gets nerfed a week later

>>532647278
I don't like the bolter desu, I prefer the semi automatic autogun and lasgun

>quickplay into aurics to do some weapon leveling, cant be fucked to buy a million copies and upgrade them for sacrifiicing
>two pre-game lobbies where someone sits there, looks for a while and abandons
Who the fuck abandons aurics based on teammates
what the fuck

>>532648761
Veteran rework soon. trust the plan

>>532650449
(((they))) said zealot first

>>532648761
>without nodes
it's literally a node

>>532650405
with the recent changes and as discussed in thread, the fact that it's gotten a lot easier in auric, you could just have the chance of not being able to play the game if you're playing a slow build for fun like exec vet. An arbites or high level not retarded ogryn would just be able to solo the level while you spit on your thumb and shove it up your ass two rooms behind. I've moved to havoc CBT because auric was too boring.

>>532650405
Not as bad as bot lobbies where the stupid fucks let me die

Man, all my friends that are playing Abiotic Factor already have servers that are filled to capacity, I can't find a single permanant server I want to do a playthrough on and doing the random shuffle with gamepass jackasses has been a mixed bag of hearing section 8s go "Man this looks like resident evil 4" or the whitest nerd you've heard ackshullay go about trying to steal everyone's shit at base and then leave - not realizing that shit doesn't work in 1.0

I'm just so fucking tired and need to find a retirement home to crawl into and suffer my perfect cozy death.

>>532650884
I'm playing it solo offline from the beginning again despite already having got all the way to the end in 0.7. I don't know why anyone would play this multiplayer. That's just asking for other people to do area unlocks before you and make the progression confusing, and then moving your stuff around while you're not looking.

I am dreading the dam swim once again, though. Last time I just jumped over to the tower and bypassed it entirely. I have never even seen the water entity in person, know it has a very low chance to attack you, know you can fish to make it never attack you ever, and I am still terrified of it.

>>532650707
To be fair the node also gives a lot of other stats.
The real fucked up thing is how strong the dog is with 0 investment, in fact you save points by keeping the dog

>>532608829
hehehehe

>>532624467
hexbound finally got me to install this, should really be a default feature

>>532641490
Plasma Gun, Helbore and Recon Lasgun are the meta
You want Survivalist and Voice of Commando with the left subnode and spam your ability off cooldown
Focus Target to help your team melt monstrosities (useless outside Havoc), or Weapon Specialist route if you want to be a worse Zealot still.
If it's still not fun, the class isn't for you.

>>532631489
penetrating is to help the team out with damage more than yourself, if you have a frontline with brittle you could probably drop it though

>>532650323
i guess you can make every ranged option work if you take the power sowrd

>>532650405
>Who the fuck abandons aurics based on teammates
sissies, you could go in as a level 1 and I wouldnt give a fuck, anything goes in aurics the worse mates the better

>>532654482
I fully agree, the people bitching are those bad players who need to be carried

>imagien wasting skillpoints on a node that insta reloads with 20 conditionals instead of just you know, reloading for the whopping 2 seconds
I dont know how to take you people seriously when you suggest the shittiest builds with the shittiest nodes and the shittiest weapons
like imagine taking a plasma rifle that needs exactly the same amount of shots as a bolter but has the garbage reload or a helboar that has the chargeup
its as if you people play the meatgrinder only

>>532638106
i feel like there is a mod that auto spams for the dog or something, some fucker was driving me nuts yesterday with ping spam and when i asked he said he didn't have it bound to m1. So if it was an arbys it's probably a mod

>>532654845
are you mad about weapon specialist for some reason?

>>532590948
i would seethe at this. but seeing as how they treated killing floor 2. it's completely deserved.

in kf3 wtf does enfeeble do? It's not in the codex...

>>532655645
not mad just baffled, you already hard pressed for skill points and then some anon comes along and says its the only way to play vet. At this point i consider this sabotage

>>532651604
the darkwater beast is more annoying than dangerous but i don't blame yah big fish in water that's hard to see in is always unnerving. there is another underneath the gale reactor but you just ignore that one You can use an xray to scare it off and it's really slow so you should be able to outpace it. I was told it just fucks off at fishing 15 as well but i haven't tested this myself. thing looks like a freaky oversized horshoe crab imo, it's tentacles glow red when it's about to attack you i'm pretty sure, I didn't stick around to find out. One of my friends refuses to touch the water at all, he won't go to Voussoir until I set up a bench for him to tele to

>>532654845
>you people
it's one guy, let's not get carried away

>>532656404
it's not terrible for hybrid play, especially for something like a double barrel where it always gives you a shell back even after shanking only one thng, I personally prefer focus target though

>>532643419
lock in with exe stance heavy helbore and you can mog them sis, trust

>>532656404
>>532656939
revolver or double barrel are the only ones worth that talent. Combine with agile engagement and the kill thing (with 33% crit chance per melee kill), into manstopper double barrell or hand cannon revolver make it a crazy burst damage build (that's pretty bad in havoc without specific teammates since you need to kill things in melee before you can do anything). Fun but a no keystone build would probably be easier.

>>532656939
>>532656818
why do you think we get a vet rework before zealot or even psyker? did fatshark hint at it or is it just speculation?

>>532650405
I have just the cheat for you
https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/395

>>532656939
WS is nice for its own sake honestly. Even on a lot of my Exe Stance builds (mostly with the bolter) I like taking the melee talents on the right just to have good self defense. And from there it's just a 1 point Invesment into weapon specialist, taking it for the extra 10% attack speed for whenever i have to defend myself right after shooting. And I'm able to get Volley Adept anyways to make the reload fast and not kill exe stance.

>>532657414
>>532656939
how many stacks do you need to just reload one bullet of the double barrel shotty?

>>532658145
1 (one)

>>532658145
any stacks, one stack always rounds up. So it always reloads one. Max stacks on revolver also reloads 2 because it rounds up

We live amongst the stars
Countless beauty in the galaxy to explore
Yet there is only war

>>532657892
mods aren't cheating tho

>>532658235
>>532658315
sounds good then. So basically you kill one dude in melee, unload the shotty into the horde, kill one dude in melee and repeat or how do you use it?

>>532604747
>>532616480

Wouldn't fucking an Ogryn be like fucking a giant, fully grown toddler? Mindset wise anyway?

Also in lore don't Ogryn males act extremly protective of the Females? Like you barely see them? (Source, read it on like 1d6chan I think, it was a while ago)

>>532657482
uhh i'm assuming zealot will be next since their tree is the oldest but fatshark did say vet wouldn't have to wait too long... in november...
>>532657950
i really hope they rework exe stance so that ally kills give half the time refreshed or something. I really want to give the entire team wallhacks but it's so counterproductive

>>532617768
It's fun, but wait until they fix the bits of mini lag and the 2014 issues (It's a code of losing connection to the server).

>>532620240
It's not the day 1, diarrhea in your pants shit show, that Payday 3 was, but it's not good either. a large case of "why did this have to be a thing?".

>>532658716
i usually emphasize melee a bit more and try to make my ammo go longer, but yeah more or less
>>532658996
Tbh i just dont bother taking that exe stance node, I'm playing exe stance cause I wanna shoot the specials and elites, i dont wanna make it easier for my teammates to steal my kills.

>>532658716
I use rashad axe or shovel because I really want to kill 3 shitters quickly, because 3 gives 100% crit chance with weapons specialist keystone.
And that triggers manstopper and the flechette keystone. Does a shit load of damage to a mixed hore and gives max bleed stacks after two blasts of that. But yeah it's basically, kill thing in melee, if theres something worth shooting, shoot, repeat. Save ammo tho. You're a melee class now and you use your shotgun like an "oh shit" button. Before the nerfs to survivalist aura that build with revolver was insane, every 3 melee kills meant 100% crit chance on a revolver that one shotted crushers with a headshot.

>>532621578
Don't forget to Cheer often

>>532659310
>every 3 melee kills meant 100% crit chance on a revolver that one shotted crushers with a headshot.
Doesn't it still do this? You just need the crit on melee kill blessing and deadshot.

>>532624539
>>Psyker
>>Dodge dog
>>It visibly flies past my screen
>>Teleports sideways and backwards to pounce me anyways


That was a Tzeencth hound DISGUISED as a Pox Hound. All according to plan...

>>532659272
exactly what I mean, I wish the node was useful lol

what class is the least important but brings useful shit to havoc 40? vet with surivalist/shout?

My game disconnected LITERALLY as I got in the extraction, lol

>>532659525
It doesnt one shot anymore I don't think, they nerfed the hand cannon blessing too.
you could do it that way sure but deadshot is kinda a waste of points , the keystone already gives 100% after 3 kills and if you can get one, you can probably get 2 or 3.
You can make your own build and play however you want, I made this build back when survivalist aura was procing on every single kill and it was insane in melee only maelstroms. And I still like it because I like survivalists aura. If I was playing shotgun I'd get krak for boss damage, and sometimes swap demolition team for grenade tinkerer

>>532660872
I'd assume you can still get it to oneshot crushers if you put carapace and elites (or crit damage) on the revolver, and take this one important skill that every veteran should have and why the fuck does your screenshot not include it?

>>532660872
not him but is there a video seeing this build in action?

>>532661670
I'm strapped for points, taking that means not taking survivalist, or picking krak/smoke instead of frag which I love. Or not taking monstrosity/ ogryn damage. This build is basically a compromise and it's everything I enjoy playing with. If you want to be optimal in damage and you're for sure never gonna play with ammo vacuums save points from survivalist.

>>532658992
>Wouldn't fucking an Ogryn be like fucking a giant, fully grown toddler? Mindset wise anyway?
Depends on the kind of ogryn. Original ogryns only had an almost child-like faith (in that they believed what you told them), but were otherwise caveman dumb rather than dumb dumb, their intelligence oriented towards fighting and survival. This later was flanderized to being a child like temperament in general. But in 40k fashion there are multiple strains of ogryns to cover all interpretations
Female ogryns are basically never mentioned in the lore other than existing; there was also one named female psyker ogryn. Though presumably there may be some female only ogryn squads, segregated to prevent problems

>>532658992
Ogryns aren't really that infantile, it's more of a retarded mongoloid ogre kind of retardation. They're not like babies or something, they're fully grown men and went through a puberty involving as much testosterone as a bull elephant

>>532661671
I have no idea, I made it a long time ago and have honestly never seen any one else use exactly that. But any revolver weapons specialist build plays the same. Mines just cooler and more helpful to the team with shout and survivalist and frag

>russian joins game
>instant lags
How does it work?

I just saw a H40 PS5 player. what the hell

>>532624539
Yeah, dodging dogs is and pretty much always has been broken as fuck. Always push if you can because simply dodging isn't reliable at all.

Morrow's on his period again..

>>532663703
it's definitely more reliable than it was. if there isn't much around me I dodge and swing like 80% of the time

>>532664151
Morrow doesn’t have a vagina he has a massive 25 inch cock that drags along the ground when he isn’t constraining it with a special magnet that keeps it stuck to his leg created by Hadron

>>532662292
>Ogryns aren't really that infantile

Toddler was just the first best way I thought I could describe the temperment. At least play as Brawler Ogryn mostly.

But I suppose Child-Like is a better way to put it. all just to clarify.

>>532662331
I mean they *are* still being sanctioned by the world. It's only the peasants feeling it though, not the Muscovites.

>>532664543
And he's also on his period

>>532665134
I still wouldn't really agree, they're more like ultra construction workers. It's a degree of machoism combined with low IQ, but I wouldn't describe it as child like. They're obviously exaggeratedly retarded I guess which is similar to how children are exaggeratedly retarded

When are ogryns getting power claws, or dusters, or fists

How good is the combat axe for arbeetus?

>>532666117
insane

>>532665805
they're deleting gunlugger and replacing it with ogryn wrestling moves, you'll be able to pick up a human sized enemy (mauler) with your ult and throw them to create a stagger zone similar to the charge ult. It also comes with talents that buff the punch/slaps of weapons, or the new fist weapon.

give me scriers gaze vuild ideas

>>532665805
I feel like that might be the marks, but if I had to pick I want dusters.

>>532665805
Dusters I can get but I don’t think there’s any examples of Ogryns being given claws or firsts, the former usually needing some kind of ‘finesse’ and the latter being somewhat redundant due to Ogryns already being stupid strong

>>532590948
Oh Danny booooyyy the pipes the pipesss are callinggggg

Free high five to the guy that get's what my name references.

GO!

>Oh servants of the Holy Omnissiah! By humble request of this Citizen of the God-Emperor of Mindkind, praise be thy name and of Holy Terra!

I beeseech thee: Translate this gibberish to me!

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>>532668621
Nobody cares.

>>532668621
I only heard that name in mouse detective

I got my entire team killed

Hard to say what my favorite class is. I like vet, psyk, arbite, and zealot. I started with vet because I really like being a simple guy who loves his gun in games that let you be wizards/mutants/whatever. I played zealot second because I love the unga bunga faith characters, I play sob on tabletop and I've played sob a few times in the ttrpg's. Then I tried psyker third and ended up really liking how they have no ammo or grenade usage and I like the bubble.

If I had to say, I think I'd say zealot. Mainly because they have the cutest voice actor imo, the scottish one.

Just lost to the karnak twins because some stupid cunt ogryn wouldn't save me or get out of the gas clouds

So when is the next power boost like red weapons? Other than getting a new class the game feels a bit stagnant. I'm still waiting for chaos waste. We need a new game mode that isn't snortis trials.

>>532666117
Extremely fucking strong

>>532666206
>>532672158
I need a build.

>>532668920
3 classes and 1 golden shower ammo printer

>>532672394
Rashad with Carapace+Flak & Headtaker+Brutal Momentum is what I have on my axe (I never checked breakpoints, so check perks if you want to minmax).
You don't need Street Smarts. I just left it on 'cause I've been too lazy to swap minor shit when I change weapons.
Got me around a million damage in two Aurics yesterday with this.

>>532672734
ty senpai

>>532670096
Bingo!

>>532668881
happens when you alt-tab for too long

>>532671672
>If I had to say
no one is forcing you bro dont worry... you can just chill you don't have to say it you're safe in here

>>532668881
Where in gods name did you see this I think your toaster is shitting itself

>>532672835
I love boobs

>>532675512
Me too dude, me too. (female boobs, of course)

>>532675559
male boobs would be quite gay to behold

>>532675615
>m u
>t b

>gunlugger ogryn
>with the single heavy stubber
>not even the high damaging one
>never in melee
>out of ammo after first horde
I fucking hate quickplay aurics

>>532674367
thats why he said
>if I had to say

>>532586971 (OP)
For me its Psyker>Zealot>Ogryn>Veteran

>>532675615
osha is heresy, that back railing didn't used to be there and i'm upset they added even that much

>look down
>cant see body and feet
cool game nerds

So we can all agree that kf3 is better than darktide, right?
>darktide has been out for literal years and is still shit
>has a dev with a terrible reputation (looking at you, vermintide)
>kf3 just released and is mediocre
>has a dev with an alright reputation if you ignore the paid weapons

>>532678946
babbys first bait

>Enter quickplay lobby
>see arbites name in cyrillic
>leave
simple as

>>532677976
>osha is heresy
i say this

>>532679324
Its not bait if it's the truth. Obese fishing literally just broke their new character and went on a vacation, which would be okay if this wasn't their first time taking a vacation after a major fuck up. So at the very least kf3 has a bright future when you compare it to a dev that can hardly go a year without breaking SOMETHING

>>532591296
I kind of like to think he’d fall under Tzeentch
I don’t really know why but all his scheming is fun

>>532679779
>doubling down after being called out
bit slow, aren't you?

>>532679918
Don't say I didn't warn you. In a year people will still be bitching about some new fat shark bug or other while kf3, while still likely holding a smaller player base, will be better than ever

>>532678317
You need to lose some weight then, fatass

>>532680172
not even reading, absolute bore

>>532680794
Womp womp you're just mad I'm right

our boi dropping some more heretic lore

>marking an enemy increases Fury of the Faihtful's range up to 21 meters and the charge will lightly track the target
why is this not stated anywhere ingame

>>532617768
It's literally pay to win lol, they have added no content besides the paid class which is OP and better than the others.

>>532682112
>why is this not stated anywhere ingame
You could ask this about at least half of all things in darktide. The game does not want to provide you with any information about anything, and even some descriptions are outright incorrect, or fagshart is too retarded to math them correctly and they've been bugged for years.

>>532682112
I mean it says right there you can target them

>>532680472
s-shut u-up you poxhound

>>532682112
Pretty sure it does that so long as you're aiming at an enemy. You don't actually need to mark it. Unless I've been unconsciously marking shit for the last 400 levels and don't even register it anymore

>>532682827
this talent system, if built out, woulda been cooler than talent trees
consider that zealot is meant to be 3 seperate careers but it really just feels like one

Got Darktide
What am I in for

>>532684489
a clunky ass horde shooter

>>532684489
The best horde shooter on the market.

>>532685526
>>532685715
both true

>>532684243
That's got nothing to do with talent trees inherently, just all the keystones are uncreative and don't change the way you play. Ogryn and Arbitrator being the latest trees show how variety is possible.

>>532684489
The best CO-OP shooter on the market

>>532684489
the best horde shooter that manages to make both melee and ranged combat viable

>>532686308
>Ogryn and Arbitrator being the latest trees show how variety is possible.
Forceful and EO from Arby don't really change your playstyle. TW does, but it fucking sucks. Arby isn't a class I'd bring up for this. In comparison, FOTF and Chorus Zealots play differently and are actually both good. Similarly, a WS Vet and FT Vet tend to have different enough playstyles to be noteworthy as well.

>>532684489
the only game with satisfying combat feedback despite it just being spammy shit 95 percent of the time

Is anyone on KF3? leveling up feels waay worse than darktide

>>532686308
I feel like it would've been easier for them to create unique gameplay for each sub career if they didnt have to consider compability and balance between the branches if swapping over

>>532684489
Lazy devs and in-frequent updates.
The gameplay is fun though.

>havoc 40, Magistrati Oubliette
>be zealot, with ogryn, psyker, arbitrator
>pigger uses his dog for safety while constantly kiting forward, playing very aggressive overall, is a pretty safe player
>twins spawn
>pigger keeps running forward
>2 monstrosities spawn
>HE KEEPS RUNNING FORWARD
>ANOTHER BOSS SPAWNS
>suddenly have 5 health bars on the screen that I can only see because a mod uncaps the health bar count
>cornered into an L-shaped corridor with a burgle blocking retreat
>too much shit around, no time to panic
>throw immolation grenade, then chorus
>take health damage, triggering martyr's purpose
>chorus
>throw another grenade
>flamer ti- nope, took damage, chorus
>grenades rape the horde while everyone focuses on the stunned bosses
>nobody even goes down
>end up being completely fine
>only took some ~75% corruption spread across the team, probably would've been more without purity aura
>most of that was the ogryn being mauled by a dog for like 20 seconds because he was around a corner body blocked by a boss (lol)
>win the mission with 55 chorus uses across 28 minutes
>still nearly tie everyone for damage from setting everything on fire
I think I'm beginning to understand the phenomenon of the 20-30 hardstuckie range and their supposed boss spam. They don't pay attention to audio cues or spawns or fucking anything for that matter and just keep blindly rushing forward triggering 5 of the fuckers, but having a meme team composition with zero fallbacks for such situations just causes them to instantly wipe because they can barely deal with one boss, let alone 3+ lol.
>inb4 that retard who keeps whining about boss spam
filtered, git gud

>u
>b
w

>>532689302
not an unga bunga post, you oversensitive newfaggot

>>532689361
>implying I've read your blog post
Lmao

>>532689521
>shitting up the thread over posts you haven't read
Genuinely, from the bottom of my heart, please kill yourself immediately.

>>532688209
By the way, you don't need to hyphenate "infrequent". It's already a word of its own.
inb4 someone gets on me about leaving the period outside of the quotation marks

>>532689181
>still shilling the abortion of a node that is martyr's purpose
No one cares about your blogposts, retard

>>532690704
>>still shilling the abortion of a node that is martyr's purpose
And still winning nearly every h40 run I play with it. Curious how that works. Let's see your True Survivor, anon :)

>>532689302
>>532689361
>>532689521
>>532689701
I don’t understand the argument…

>>532690704
It's a decent node exactly because of situations like anon was describing. If you're going for a Beacon Chorus support build, it's a good safety pick. You give up Sustained Assault for some wipe prevention, but since you're probably running DS + Flamer as Chorus Zealot, SA's loss isn't as substantial as it would be in more melee-focused, offensive builds.

I personally dislike people shilling Pious Cutthroat far more than people touting MP's effectiveness because the former is mostly good when you don't need it and the latter will only be good when you desperately need it. Actually, I guess you could intentionally lose some health when things are a bit sketchy too, but I'm not a fan of doing that. Anyway, it's a node that's bad for Aurics but good for high Havocs in that one particular build.

>>532690242
I still don't know when you're supposed to have the period inside quotes and when it should be outside them.

>>532684489
>Sw*dish jank
>relatively deep mechanics that are unapproachably opaque because they aren't explained anywhere
>virtually zero competent content creators that know how the mechanics work, so don't expect to find anyone to explain how to actually play the game on jewtube or whatever
>most of it is just clickbaiting or basic build advice marketed toward mouthbreathers, or high difficulty content that is obviously cherry picked to show off their one meme win after 10 losses
>the best content you'll find is from some 300 view literal who that is either completely nonverbal, or probably still sounds like xhe is taking HRT
>pretty cool co-op mechanics with some of the most satisfying gameplay, that effectively plays without any co-op because the average player is virtually brain dead
>barely any improvement in player buildcrafting or skill, even as you progress through the difficulties, because every retard expects to get carried
>damn near pay to win DLC class (it's not as overpowered at the top end, but dear god is it retardedly easy), compounding the above issues
>extremely good, distinct sound design that is extremely important because dangerous enemies have their own unique sound cues
>this gets thrown out of the window as soon as you progress through the difficulties, because certain enemies (over)populate the limited sound channels in this aging engine that was never intended to handle this many enemies at once, effectively muting every other sound (including the important ones)
>half-baked gear crafting system that makes no fucking sense without knowing the context that you had to rely on cancerous gambling mechanics before, and that the current state is just a band-aid they never properly finished
I could probably hit the post limit twice over with all the grievances I have, and it's still the most fun co-op game on the market.
I suggest you ask for advice on what class to play.

>>532691496
>I guess you could intentionally lose some health when things are a bit sketchy
There's more to it than that, but it's not very deep. You sometimes take chip even through chorus (think gunners, flames) or just get hit by some poxer if you aren't paying attention, which just gives you a huge cooldown reset every time. Losing health isn't even that big of a deal when you can take the +2 wounds right next to it and just intentionally go down for a refresh.
Intentionally taking damage is nice, fire barrels are your best friend since they penetrate toughness entirely, but all strategy aside it's still an incredibly safe pick overall. It's obvious that any detractors don't even play havoc. This general is notorious for being hardstuck.

>>532691520
>virtually zero competent content creators that know how the mechanics work, so don't expect to find anyone to explain how to actually play the game on jewtube or whatever
>most of it is just clickbaiting or basic build advice marketed toward mouthbreathers, or high difficulty content that is obviously cherry picked to show off their one meme win after 10 losses
>the best content you'll find is from some 300 view literal who that is either completely nonverbal, or probably still sounds like xhe is taking HRT
check kulis guides on steam guides. 99% factual and he corrects the 1% and gives info if you comment

>>532692591
They're not so much guides, and more mechanics explanations that are informed by datamining. Extremely valuable stuff for anyone trying to actually understand the mechanics.
>not linking to them
https://steamcommunity.com/id/kulii/myworkshopfiles/?section=guides&appid=1361210
>datamine
https://github.com/Aussiemon/Darktide-Source-Code

They still don't necessarily explain how to play the game though, and since most jewtubers are the quoted cancer, you can't trust them either. At least mr. Estrogen and rejeetnald's guides are relatively light on misinformation from what little I've seen, but not all advice is good advice either, like suggesting meme blessings or meme dump stats on weapons that are blatantly incorrect to anyone that actually fucking plays that class.

>>532691506
As far as I've learned from previous searches, it differs between American and British English. American English tends to place standard (periods and commas) end punctuation inside the quotation marks even if it isn't part of the quoted material. American English still distinguishes between whether something was a part of the source material or part of the overall sentence when it comes to exclamation and question marks though, so those won't strictly always be kept within quotations. British English (and I'm not British, so this has a higher likelihood of being incorrect than anything else I've said so far) tends to not place punctuation inside quoted material that wasn't there to begin with. How this plays into quotation marks being used to refer to words as the words themselves, I'm not entirely sure, especially when those word references come at the end of the sentence.

I see it as mostly a style choice (even if that isn't entirely true), and so I don't really bother about it too much so long as I remain consistent and keep things sensible within or adjacent to established rules. This isn't something I have an immense education in though, so obviously don't take what I'm saying as reliable.

>>532693076
ill give them a read
am burned out anyway

>>532692186
>Losing health isn't even that big of a deal when you can take the +2 wounds right next to it and just intentionally go down for a refresh.
That isn't something I think I'll ever engage in, but I can see the value. I have been contemplating the +2 wounds node just because it's right there, but it's somewhat counter-synergistic with Beacon, I probably won't actively use it for partial healing, and I seldom go down outside of wipes anyway.
>It's obvious that any detractors don't even play havoc. This general is notorious for being hardstuck.
Yeah, it's painfully obviously when someone's vehemently opposed to something that obviously has use and is entirely closed off from new ideas.

>>532692186
>It's obvious that any detractors don't even play havoc. This general is notorious for being hardstuck.
>just intentionally go down for a refresh.

>>532694067
NTA, but it would be viable with the +2 wounds in premades or groups with good coordination during low-points. I dislike it, and I'd be surprised if it was terribly useful over a span of dozens of games, but it's not entirely without merit.

>>532693765
>I have been contemplating the +2 wounds node just because it's right there, but it's somewhat counter-synergistic with Beacon
I'd argue that this is false. The main reason you take beacon of purity is to help prevent corruption chip from taking you (and everyone else) into the next wound. You want to prevent reaching the next wound, because fucking up while on the last wound might kill you. Having +2 extra wounds removes that problem, but there isn't any direct anti-synergy here because you still help everyone else. The only real downside is that you're no longer extending how much a medkit can heal, and it's rare that this matters anywhere near as much.

>>532694067
Yes anon, I know that being aware enough of what is going to find a safe opening, and calling out on voice to let everyone know, is a foreign concept to you, because you are an eternally hardstuck shitter.

>>532694382
>The main reason you take beacon of purity is to help prevent corruption chip from taking you (and everyone else) into the next wound
True, but +2 wounds also lowers the threshold to reach a new wound, so it will be easier to lock off part of your healthbar, making somewhat modest mistakes more punishing than they otherwise would've been. You're right; I might not've phrased it correctly, and it may not actually work adversely with Beacon or vice versa, but there is a drawback beyond the regular opportunity cost.

>quickplay auric
>True Survivor arbites is the only one who died
How embarassing.

>>532694928
>+2 wounds also lowers the threshold to reach a new wound, so it will be easier to lock off part of your healthbar
I find this to be vanishingly rare, because taking enough corruption to fill a wound takes more than just a minor fuckup. Either you're being pelted by multiple trash enemies, ignored a rager for too long, or you just completely eat shit for 90% corruption from an overhead, with little in-between. Every other corruption related situation, MP bails you out since you can just chorus out of it.
I would always suggest you run one corruption resist perk on your curios when doing this build to extend that window a little.

Guys why don't you gargle fatshark's cum?

>>532693268
>Field Improvisation
fucked up, drains the medikit faster and only heals corruption to the next wound
>Get Back in the Fight!
suprisingly good, he said it allows you to walkt trough patches of fire without slowdown
>Iron Will
this seems messed up with piss toughness, shame
>Shock Trooper
what are guaranteed crit sequences? He said recon has them
>Catch a Breath
does toughness regeneration from curious and talent trees affect this skill?

>>532691506
>>532693268
Thanking you the very much much Saar very good free lesson english exam
Passing for the sure now!!!!!!!!!

>>532696513
Are you quoting the wrong post?

>Field Improvisation
Is quite good actually, don't underestimate it. Will save you in a pinch, and also gives grenades. If you don't value grenades, I don't value your input. Unfortunately many builds still don't have room for it, because you want that one point spent elsewhere.
>Get Back in the Fight!
Directly competes with Catch a Breath which is the better skill, and veteran is cucked for points.
>Iron Will
Is the best defensive node in vet's entire tree, and virtually every build should run it because not doing so borders on suicide.
>Shock Trooper
Guaranteed crit consequences are a significant increase in damage, and some blessings that interact with them (most lasguns have access to Infernus, which ignites the target for big damage)
>Catch a Breath
The toughness regen stat on curios is a an unexplained and misleading Sw*dish ESL-ism. It only ever speeds up the delay, and amount of regeneration, granted by being in coherency. However, increasing your total toughness obviously increases the amount a percentage based skill regenerates.

>>532697248
fuck, i wanted to boost catch a breath with the curio. what a shame.

what i dont understand is the crit sequences what the title implies, guaranteed crits? or just another mechanic to boost damage.

im thinking about taking get back in the fight instead of field improvisation. 4 grenades more per round (not even guaranteed) sounds like a wasted point when i get like 70

>>532699750
>what i dont understand is the crit sequences what the title implies, guaranteed crits?
>>532696627

>>532699750
>what i dont understand is the crit sequences
Wow I misread and completely misunderstood, I'm retarded.
Shock Trooper does what it says on the tin. You get a crit with a las weapon, and that shot consumes no ammo.
Crit sequences are another opaque, esoteric game mechanic that fatshark doesn't explain, where for some automatic weapons (I forget which, but I know ogryn twin stubbers have it), if the game decides you get a crit, it will also fire criticals for the next couple shots. I don't believe any of the lasguns do this.
>im thinking about taking get back in the fight instead of field improvisation
You're likely better off putting that point deeper into the tree, because most of the good shit is in the bottom clusters. It's Get Back in the Fight OR Catch a Breath, you don't take both, it's just not worth it.
Do you already have the weakspot damage in the bottom left? Demolition team? Even the +25 toughness node? Crit on dodge?

>>532686604
The more I think about it, keystones more so accommodate playstyles rather than necessarily change the way you play. Executive Order benefits critical strikes, cooldown reduction, dog damage and situational awareness. Forceful grants sustain, cleave, stun immunity and a massive damage burst. Terminus Warrant is for people that like swapping weapons a lot, the 50:50 players, but it falls flat because it only benefits a very poor playstyle that is unsustainable and unused at high level.
Zealot's all just give you more damage and nothing else. Martyrdom also gives you attack speed but that's really it.

>>532696627
>>532700206
>>532700330
>recon lasguns do actually have crit sequences, but it's only 2
Huh, never knew that. Thanks for not explaining anything ever, fagshart. Fucking sw*ggers.
Now I'm not even sure whether Shock Trooper discounts the ammo on both shots, and I'm not booting up the game to test it.

>>532700403
>Forceful grants (...) a massive damage burst.
Until you run it with BTL, at which point it becomes virtually permanent in every situation that actually matters, and is basically the whole reason to even run the keystone.
>Terminus Warrant is for
retards. The only exception is maybe a ranged focused boltgun build that benefits from the +20% reload, but even that is grasping at straws.

>Zealot's all just give you more damage and nothing else.
Blazing Piety gives you juice toughness damage resist and a +10% teamwide crit aura, that nobody seems to be aware of, and nobody considers taking, because everyone is jewing skill points to the extent of even skipping chorus upgrades, and/or a chronic auric pessimist (correctly) assuming every teammate is a worthless retard who won't put those 10% crit to use.

>>532700206
>>532700330
wait what, you get 6 crit shots per crit trigger on the heavy stubber which has like 30 shots to begin with? Thats kinda nuts

>your skill tree
Im mentally handcaped and take stealth sintead og shout because i only learned how to use stealth and not shout so now im 2 points short to take 25 toughness and 10 melee speed
also i take 10 rending node just because it saves a shot or two on the bolter pistol against carpace enemies,
Also i find it kinda interesting that britelness and rending work against unyielding and maniac. Always though it only works against carpace and flak. Thanks for linking the guides

>>532700840
Martyrdom also gives you toughness damage resist, so it's not even unique to BP. The reason people don't take the shared crits node is because the +10% crits to yourself is more appealing. Inexorable Judgement is just retarded and does nothing but give you more damage for playing, but less than BP does.

Coming from Vermintide to Darktide, how much gameplay will be different and what are bad habits that I should unlearn.

>>532701101
>you get 6 crit shots per crit trigger on the heavy stubber which has like 30 shots to begin with
No, only the twin stubbers. Not the single stubbers.
Also disregard any but the heaviest 20-shot one. It's the only relevant single stubber because it hits important bodyshot and headshot breakpoints in auric, and remains competitive with crit headshots in havoc. The other ones are all basically trash.

>Im mentally handcaped and take stealth
kek
Stealth isn't terrible, but yeah it's in a bad spot on the skill tree.
I don't think the 10% rending is worth it when you can already stack enough damage to hit breakpoints, and/or just build your gun correctly.
>britelness and rending work against unyielding and maniac
Check https://darktide.gameslantern.com/enemies Rending and brittleness are particularly relevant against anything with a damage multiplier less than 1x, but still technically increase your damage even against 1. I forget what the math actually is, I just remember it being pretty inefficient and not necessarily worth focusing on unless it's a gun blessing and you have nothing else available. But even on the boltgun for example, bleed tends to outperform in terms of boss damage unless you're ACTUALLY 2 mag killing with headshots, which is a whole build.

>>532701390
>but give you more damage for playing, but less than BP does
On its own, IJ would have a decent reason to be run since not all weapons benefit from crit enough to warrant taking more CHC over raw damage, attack speed, and toughness regen. The problem is how good Invocation of Death is compared to how shit Pious Cutthroat is. That's the deciding reason IJ sees such little play because spamming FOTF more is better than anything IJ can do for you.

>developer of abiotic factor said "bro you should totally replay the game entirely with 1.0, it's a totally different experience
>about to head into labs and I can count what has changed from my run so far on one hand

>>532694976
if the game was easy enough to always survive every encounter it would be boring

>>532701648
okay i understand to both of your statements.
I take bleed on the boltgun by default, i dont remember what my second blessing is, probably the grenade range.
I always though even minor brittleness/rending can nearly double the samage of bleeds against armored targets. FOr example (bad example because i dont have the numbers at hand) I used the recon laser rifle a month ago with no rending and with 10 rending from the tree on the vet and saw significant increase in the damage done to crushers. be it from the fire dot or direct damage. Similary, i see bigger bleed ticks from the bolter. Also a crusher takes around 4-5 shots from the bolter to the body with no crits with the 20 percent damage against ogryns and 10 rending as opposed to around 8-9 shots without both nodes.
Anyway, after consulting my skill tree i noticed that i have to make a decision between superiority complex and rending strikes. Right now im sitting at 10% crit chance with the bolter and 20 with my power sword. I dont think i hit the needed breakpoint to oneshot elite enemies with superiority complex but it takes one shot less to kill crushers with rending strikes. What would you suggest in my position?

Anyone playing firebug? I've been seeing some firebugs pump 500k+ damage and I'd love to know what loadout they are running.

>>532702991
>grenade range
That's boltgun, not bolt pistol. Distinctly different weapons.
>What would you suggest in my position?
That you please stop shooting crushers unless you're panic magdumping a big boy boltgun into a crowd because everything just went sideways. You mentioned having a power sword, that thing doesn't need brittleness, it cuts through everything like a hot knife through butter. Yes, rending and brittleness actually help a ton with bleed against armor, but this only matters when abusing Uncanny Strike blessing with bleed grenades, or I guess knife also using a bleed blessing. By default, you shouldn't be shooting crushers unless it's a specific crit headshot bolter build, or plasma gun headshots.
I don't remember whether Superiority Complex lets you hit breakpoints for dreg gunner headshots with boltgun/pistol, without needing unarmored perks (you should be using unyielding/maniac anyway). Even then, it helps with melee against shit like ragers, so it's a very useful point to take.

>>532703620
Err, the other way around. Explosion radius is bolt pistol, not boltgun.
Still distinctly different weapons, even if the damage is the same.

>>532703620
>>532703746
going by that logic i dont need crit chance full stop which leads me to believe that i can just ignore the bottom right path completely since i can two shot crushers with headshots with the power blade without crits on auric. I only take the boltgun for snipers and gunners and sometimes ragers and bosses without shield, crushers is just an added bonus but i get your point.
If i wouldnt take stealth and just shout i would have to make any decisions what a shit placement. Anyway thanks for your input,

>>532704341
>i dont need crit chance full stop which leads me to believe that i can just ignore the bottom right path completely
Power sword crits aren't terrible, and the attack speed on the right side (including the keystone) is pretty good with it, but I don't personally think it needs any of that to deal with armor and mixed hordes well enough. Maybe if you're doing a more melee focused veteran build, but melee vet is definitely more of a meme, and if you're doing that, you should just be playing arbitrator instead.

Should I slop out for the Witch Hunter Zealot skin?

>>532705057
I did. Looks sick when I'm playing in third person.

ugh...

>>532705245
>that many levels
Auricshitter, declined

>>532705057
I pigged for it because it's one of the very few zealot skins that doesn't look pants on head retarded and I play the class a lot. It's probably the best complete set fatshark has ever released, and likely still better than any customized combos you can do, short of funny novelty setups like mister of battle or any of the gimp masks.
>Should I
It's just a cosmetic in a first person game where nobody cares how you look, so it's objectively a poor financial decision. I'd default to no just based on that. It's also a bad idea to give fatshark money. If you don't care and have the money to burn, go for it.

>>532704660
true. I cant explain in words why i find veteran appealing. Maybe its the stealth, maybe its the power sword, maybe its the grenade spam but something about it feels more fun and engaging. I dont like ogryn psyker or zealot all that much unfortunately, so vet the only class i can play if i want to feel something. Arbitar i play only to relax or if im frustrated.

>>532705245
>xir doesnt have the team tracker mod isntalled to track his win losses and leaves
ngmi

>>532705245
and let me guess, he was running autopistol or an autogun, devil's claw or a chainaxe?
I have seen this phenotype many times before

>>532705461
For me, it's funny karker voice and making the boltgun's reload tolerable between the two reload nodes + shout. Stealth is more of a sometimes thing for me, depending on the mission, but I also like it a lot. It just sucks that it has too few points to make a good build to still run boltgun with, but at least lasguns are cheap to build into.

>>532706023
care to show me what you are currently running. im just curious

>>532706115
Curios are incidentally identical.
Left one spends most of the time shooting. Knife is only out for running, killing mutants, or the occasional horde situation. Annoying groups of enemies just eat grenades.
Right one also spends a lot of time shooting, but lasgun can't deal with armor so power sword was kind of necessary. Dueling sword is a viable alternative, but I actually think it's worse here because it can't deal with mixed hordes quickly enough. I did use to run kraks and am running frags now, which does make power sword a bit less necessary, but it still feels like the most useful weapon overall for this sort of build.
Yes, I like deadshot quite a lot, thank you for noticing.

>>532705057
Its like 1 of 3 decent Zealot cosmetics.

On all my curios I just get full CDR, full gunner DR and full ally revive speed. The amount of times I manage to save someone just a second off from having my stamina broken, or getting pinned, is insane value. In Havoc everyone goes down eventually and picking them up or not can be the difference between a made or lost run.

>>532707672
It's class dependent, some breakpoints apply.
You don't need more than 1x revive speed perk with shout and chorus, because both abilities stun enemies just long enough for a single revive speed perk to pick someone up without being block stunned out of it by melee attacks.
One day I'll actually test how much revive speed is necessary to get a safe res off with shield maul flashbang.
Psyker might be better off running at least some block efficiency with peril block, as it makes for pretty safe revives.

>>532708039
I never use Chorus because I'm not a faggot

>>532705057
I did. Zealot is by far my most played class, and I have almost 1100 hours in the game. Pigging out a few times to help them keep putting stuff out (even if it is at a fucking atrocious pace with tons of problems) is a price I'm willing to play given how much I have played and will continue to play the game. But if you're a casual, it's probably not worth it.

>>532705730
Chainaxe and Autogun (Infantry) are both good weapons and perform well in Aurics. I can't fathom someone running autopistol in Havocs higher than the teens, so I imagine you aren't talking about that.

>>532707208
your curios are interesting. Ive used to run the same tough health stamina combo but eventually settled back to 3x toughness for unknown reasons.
Damage resistance against gunners i never cared about because the node that regens toughness when not targeted by melee is really crazy, combined with the one that gives toughness on elite kills you are near immortal against ranged enemies imo.
never thought about running the spear boltgun, maybe ill give it a spin of of these days.
boths look like fun, i built recon las always to be versatile with as much crit and rending brittlesness as i could get. obviously it sucked tho against anything armored anyway but endless ammo was fun. Could get 80 shots off before i needed to reload to reactive the trait that gives +10 crit chance.
Builds look interesting, im intrigued that you always take the crit while aiming trait but i guess both weapons can work with it, not that i have much experience with the bolthun just a gut feeling due to surgical.
thanks for sharing, its always inetresting to see what fellow vets are running

>>532709159
Health is pretty much exclusively there because retards will invariably blow up bursters in your face.
Gunner resist is the second best perk anyway, because it applies to reapers, who will just rape you. It also lets you shrug off gunners and win damage trades with them, even if there's three. It lets you survive surprise gunner volleys that would otherwise just down you.
Aimed crits are indeed good. Boltgun snipes very well with it, while the brown recon las is just slow enough not to instantly drain your stamina. Also having upwards of 50% crit leads to hilarious ammo efficiency. I used to run the build without ammo aura, but that also skipped Catch a Breath which I find too important to ditch.

>Killing an enemy
>Teammate finishes it off
>I get 0 (zero) toughness from my efforts
Genuinely frustrating. This might be why people don't bother with melees that don't one-shot trash and why FS felt the need to give Ogryn and Arbites toughness-on-hit talents. Never felt this issue on any class except Zealot with some of their class exclusives.

>>532709513
true catch a breath is just massive and doubles as ooc regen if allies arent in coherency if im not mistaken.
but does health really help? Lets say it blows up in your face due to human error, are you still alive after it or do you have less whatever the violet health is called, build up or what exactly does it help with?
Okay, im considering running gunner now too.

>>532705245
what? are you allergic to fun? high level vets play the weirdest shit because if they play the OP vet shit its literally just a point and click game

Couldn't they throw in some aquilas with these event rewards?

>>532710791
I have frame fatigue.

Any boomere here? were Husks insufferable in KF1 and 2?

Where do I keep track of how many more of the event I have to do to get the frame?

>>532711319
probably press tab and e while in mourningstar

>>532710791
you can always buy more aquilas, these frames are one of a kind

>>532709828
>playing weapons specialist vet
>all talents give buffs on killing a guy in melee
>I'm literally useless if I don't get melee kills
>psyker chooses to follow me around trauma staffing my feet, or venting shriek instakill a horde etc etc.
there are many pathways to that kind of feel

Shit, even on Veteran I can regenerate toughness passively through Catch a Breat, or I can queue up toughness with stuff like Confirmed Kill and Exhilarating Takedown. Even on Psyker I have a dozen ways to regain toughness outside of melee kills. Zealot has none of that, which makes slow attack speed weapons feel especially terrible, because it just means slower toughness regen and it gives teammates larger windows to killsteal, making fast attack speed weapons undisputed. I am guessing this is why I have seen 3 Thammer Zealots in total in my 500 hours of playing.

>>532710791
I just wish the frame rewards in the game were cooler. I'm still using a basic bitch candle frame for my Zealot because so many frames are overdesigned garbage that failed to even look cool.

>>532710791
wish they rewarded penance points instead

>>532711825
I keep hearing mixed things about that game but nice to see it still getting substantial updates

I wondered from the group and got downed alone, I had to leave out of embarrassment. Why am I like this bros?

>>532712847
>wondered
low IQ

>>532712847
>125x125
i dont know man but it all checks out

>>532702517
Lol does that mean it’s a scam

>>532711654
dont forget that your toughness damage reduction is behind a crit and lasts for 5 seconds
vet can get 43 base ontop of 50 for free, just need teammates and gold. I feel tankier on vet than on ogryn at times, especially against ranged. i think zealot needs the rework the most but only because i dont like psykers staves hence why im not touching the class in the near future

>>532705057
Obviously. It’s one of the best skins in the game. Do it.
>>532712847
The plasteel can wait lil bro.

>>532712847
honestly it's fine once but fuck you if you're the guy that keeps doing it and eventually brings the whole team down. it's always an ogryn too

>>532713492
No, it's a fantastic game, I just went to the very end of Dark Energy months ago is all. Could've started from my save that picks up right where the new 1.0 content picks up but he convinced me to start over. The progression only seems to get mildly different in Labs. Everything before that is same as it ever was.
For example, you can craft the new Enhancement bench at the very start of Manufacturing, but it doesn't actually have much use until you hit Labs, at which point you can upgrade the old armor set from manufacturing using the new materials you find in labs.

Oh well, I'm having fun blasting through the early game, and now instead of basing out of the cafeteria for the entire goddamn game I'm living out of a japanese garden with tatami mats.

ASS soon

>>532715268
>queues you straight into the MISSION FAILED screen
Not so fast there, buddy.

https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/573?tab=description

Found this on REDDIT. Mod that tracks the uptime of all your buffs. I want you nogs running this and writing peer-reviewed papers on builds.

>>532715764
>more data
awesome, installed.

What career should I be playing if I still need to be carried through Legend for VT2?

>>532718256
Mercenary or Witch Hunter, got to polish those basics until you get the good.

>>532718256
the bardin one where you're a tank and you get free temporary health being in melee

>>532715764
Oh sick. I was hoping Power DI would do that, but I think it just tracks instances of buff activation/refreshes, which doesn't really mean much on its own. Then again, it's not labeled, so it could be seconds active too.

>>532715385
Lmao that just happened to me

>>532718792
All I play is Kruber...

>>532715764
>>532716061
>87.8% uptime on No Hurting Friends!
kek holy shit
pretty useful little mod, will definitely keep this thing installed

>>532718256
Arbitrator

>>532720115
I'm just bummed it conflicts with better buff management. I guess I don't really need it, but being able to have a buff bar that isn't wasting space with the coherency indicator and auras is nice.

>>532715268
I frankly think that ASS is easier to get than Exemplar

They STILL haven't fixed Arbites crashing in the lobby if you're wearing an eye augment (WHICH YOU CAN FUCKING BUY RIGHT NOW)

>>532720817
Still on vacation, and it'll soon be snowing in Sweden. Fixes early 2026, friend ;)

when are they going to make all these crafting materials useful

why did they only make one event with dark bucks and it isn't even enough to buy anything?

auric is gonna wear out my mouse buttons

yeah psyker is unplayable in aurics

>>532723862
What did he mean by this

>>532723862
I've barely touched Psyker, and I do fine in Aurics on the rare occasion I play it (usually to melee with the Force GS). What build(s) are you using? Could be a build issue; otherwise, you might need to work on fundamentals.

>>532723862
I was playing psyker for the first time in years in some aurics yesterday and I could generally do well but I kept eating shit to bursters and snipers. Apparently brainburst has a massively nerfed dodge and you have to play around cover to use it on them. He is pretty boring to play though since basically all you can do is be a bubble purgatus bot or run a scrier's meme build.

>>532724650
There are less obtuse ways to ask for a shriek build. You don't have to make the bait so elaborate.

>>532724376
>>532724409
>>532724650
sorry I meant havocs, you just get instantly deleted from a single mistake whereas arbies and ogryns can shrug off most things with their infinite toughness

Did you know that only 9.3% of players have the achievement for having 4 classes at level 30? I guess most people just choose the one they like and stick with it.

>>532725134
Oh, I wouldn't know then. I've only played Zealot and Arby in H40.

>>532725465
Just like every other game, the achievement completion rates are completely warped by the majority of players that pick up the game, play ~10 hours then drop it forever.
Easy to see by looking at basic counting stat achievements, the kind of thing that takes no real investment other than a bit of playtime.

>>532725465
cheevo % is kind of meaningless on its own. you have you look at other ones too. for example only 37.2% of players completed chapter 6. so it's more like 25% of people that leveled 1 class to 30 leveled all 4, which is quite a bit.

>>532725465
how many people have all penances complete?

>>532727031
just me

Havoc doko?

>>532728112
in 20 minutes kitten

Is relic blade shit?

>>532729229
It's one of zealots better weapons now.

>>532725134
you can try the deflector blessing and whatever the talent is that lets you take peril instead of damage when blocking. And then just use your melee as a "oh fuck" stick. That's saved me from a few retarded deaths. And don't be afraid to use that block "too" much. You WILL die to a random beast of nurgle tail whip if you're not completely aware of your surroundings. With that block stick you can also infinitely block a daemonhost.
It's annoying playing psyker with some teams, others not so much.

>>532729601
you always take kinetic deflection for rescues and tanking bosses, deflector blessing on force swords will only save you if you know you're going to get shot but a single burst from a random shooter that spawned from a closet behind you will instantly delete your toughness and remove half your health bar so it really isn't much use

>>532729739
>isn't much use
>a single burst
it's better than nothing. Plus it stops shitters from shooting you when you're backed into a corner blocking a boss

>>532729849
point is it doesn't save you from the damage that typically kills you

>>532730005
That blessing spot is useless anyway, I'm definitely not relying on melee to do damage as psyker. Take deflector, be able to move to cover when your bubble is down and your team is dead

>>532730157
force swords have many great blessings and you should not forego melee

>>532730274
then why don't you offer anon some advice on being more survivable in the retarded situations psykers can get themselves killed in havoc. Like versus far away shitter gunners? DEFLECTOR IS GOOD JESUS CHRIST

>>532730456
why would far away gunners be any threat? just take cover? it's like you're illiterate and I have to tell you a third time that deflector will not save you from shooters that pop up behind you and blast you with no indication

>>532730550
>why would far away gunners be any threat? just take cover?
why would shooters from behind be any threat? just have your back to the wall? I've literally never died to that. I'm giving anon advice based on what I've experienced, I don't use melee other than to kill a mutie or to kill a single mauler/crusher whos alone. I don't need to use fucking shred or whatever the fuck. I may aswell use deflector. I don't care that it doesn't save you from what YOU experience and not the person I was replying to experiences. I was offering general help.

>I have never been shot from behind
yeah ok

I just killed a whole wave of the event armor guys solo when my team was dead, and I had a sick flick on a sniper one shotting him in the head with my pistol in the middle of it that would have made a cod player report me for aimbot cheating if he watched the killcam. I revived everyone and we went on to win. Feels good to still have some nice plays in my old age

>run ended by another silent trapper
Final straw. I'm writing a wallhack to auto highlight them. If this faggot game cheats me out of wins, I will cheat the game right back.

>>532730913
> I don't look behind me
> I don't know that guys spawn in the final hallway of smelter complex after the doors open
Literally you should always be skirting the edges if you're not inside a bubble. It's not hard

>>532730938
Shitter.
Get better at the game.

ninja is pretty fun

>>532731537
That's what I'm doing.
I'm developing my sixth sense to sniff out silent trappers that I have no way of knowing even exist behind lines of armor. Through code, instead of psychic powers.
The wallhack portion is already finished. I'll probably code a filtering system (or just lazily filter only trappers I guess) when I find the time and desire to figure out how to actually filter by enemy type.

>trapper
idk man, my penis kind of tingles when one is nearby

>>532732308
Your dick already has the nurglepox just from thinking about it.

Should I buy Vermintide?
I love playing L4D2, but I don't have any mates to play with

>>532734031
Is it because VT2 finally got versus mode to complete the L4D experience? Or just the 4 person co op in general? Because if it's the latter I'd say get Darktide.

>>532725465
I just got vet to level 30. I like swapping classes while bringing weapons I'm leveling up

>>532705245
I played with this one recently

>>532734163
doesn't darktide have jewish microtransactions?

>>532735280
cosmetics, who cares

>>532734859
>value assessment
there's so much to talk about here i don't even wanna start

>>532735280
$12 for the new class, $18 if you want to be pretty
like $13 if you ever want a full outfit, assuming you don't buy it in individual pieces which costs more

so yeah

>>532735572
>he forgor arbeeteez
you can't say this anymore, they paywalled actual gameplay

>>532735749
>catch a breath, an actual S-tier node
>weak/trap
I think that is all that needs to be said.

>>532728112
sorry, i'm on kf3 unironically :)

>>532732246
>Through code
You are a shitter and always will be.

>>532735802
arbites is not microtransactions, it's a dlc.

>>532735820
>survivalist not top tier
>krak > shredders
there's so much more

>>532734859
>COD undervalued
>One Motion not conditionally good
>Tac Reload not conditionally good (many Bolter likely builds want both of these)
>Frags ranking lower than Kraks when, if anything, they should be higher, and Kraks should be conditional
I'm not even past the blitzes and there are many things wrong with this for how early in this is. Not gonna bother looking on. Don't rely on this assessment

>>532735820
Looks outdated since it's talking about no enemies in 8m rather than the way it works now. I still prefer Get Back in the FIght

>>532736231
Oh, I forgot the Charismatic and Out For Blood rankings are off too. lmao

>>532735802
>you can't say this anymore
We are talking about it in relation to VT2, which also has paid classes.

FYI the new event condition changes "carapace" armor into "Infested"

>>532737827
are there any weapons that deal particularly high damage vs infested?

>>532737928
shit nigga I don't know

>>532737928
poxbursters lmao

Teach me how to quickslide Darktide General

>>532738303
dodge -> crouch

>spend over 5000 melkbucks on a pair of 500 rating gold rarity weapons
>hate them both
All sales final I presume.

The boltgun takes 5 years to bring out and fire, and the dueling sword just dances around doing no damage. I'm sure there are tricks I just don't know yet and these are probably like the best weapons ever but my first try did not go well.

I usually want a really fast swap weapon on zealot since I'm usually using melee and just swap for a second to shoot one ranged enemy so the boltgun made me cry since it legitimately takes like 5 seconds between pressing the swap button and being able to fire. So far the heavy laspistol is my favorite since it's pretty accurate and pretty fast.
My favorite melee so far I think is the eviscerator, since it has pretty good damage on the light attacks and I like spamming light attacks and dodges, but has the alternative/active mode for when a heavy armor guy comes.

After leveling an arbites to 30, I really miss the shield. Arbites always felt like he was doing good damage, he was always staggering everything around him at all times (I went down the stagger build path talents), and I legitimately felt like I was rarely going down, rarely low on hp, no real weaknesses. I swap back to playing psyker and zealot and I immediately lose like 3 matches in a row.

I'm ditching the boltgun 100%, I hate it, but I feel like I'm just using the dueling sword wrong. What's the secret?

>>532738412
>The boltgun takes 5 years to bring out and fire
Use knives
Throw a knife during the swap animation
Thank me
>the dueling sword just dances around doing no damage.
Uncanny Strike and a crit blessing of your choosing. Use one of the two marks that has heavy stabs, and use primarily those. Light light push followthrough for horde clear, it's not great at it but works well enough. Make sure you run full crit, with Duelist (left side).
>I'm ditching the boltgun 100%
Not once you find out what unyielding + puncture does to bosses, you won't. But bolt pistol also does that, and doesn't have the swap speed issues, so I generally prefer it when not on vet.

>why i can't i find any ammo
>must be the rumbler and ripper ogryns hoovering it all up
>nope
>it was the revolver zealot

>>532715385
it doesn't matter if you didn't die

>>532735280
>>532735572
>>532735802
Wasn't there something about buying weapons that come in different varieties and stats that you could get by paying, of am I thinking of another game?

I wonder if lorefags are the ones preventing the rejects from getting replicas or facsimiles of their smaller but usable for their size relic blades and evicisorators of spassmarine chapters
I want to pay pig big sword but they dont want my money

>>532738852
wow he picked up a whole single large bag? must be hogging all the ammo!
you can't find ammo cause you're retarded
sweeping remote corners for ammo is what zealots are supposed to do

>>532738412
just use the bolt pistol
>dueling sword just dances around doing no damage
>What's the secret?
do heavy attacks

or just use another weapon that's actually fun to use like a the evicerator or relic sword

I'm tempted to install the scoreboard mod to track my own performance progression but I usually don't mod multiplayer games. Any issues with ToS? Or performance or anything with that one mod? Do most people mod?

I do find it odd that you have to do this, the vermintide scoreboard was totally fine imo. I just want the vermintide scoreboard back is all, basically.

>>532739043
must be another game

>>532739430
If your game runs fine and you have a decent rig go ahead, but be advised the scoreboard mod is a bloated mess that can ruin your performances.

>>532739430
>Any issues with ToS?
Nobody gives a fuck unless your mod somehow affects others. Fagshart are lazy and won't do anything unless it's something egregiously annoying like bypassing voice command restrictions and spamming them, or running around shirtless (that was fixed).
>Or performance
Some mods perform poorly. Scoreboard only has the issue of save bloat. If you allow it to save your scoreboards, and don't clean them out for a year of daily play, things might get fucky. Same applies to Power DI which is another scoreboard mod, and can cause apparently stutters if the history is too large.
>Do most people mod?
Yesn't. I'd be surprised if most of this general doesn't at least use essential quality of life mods, like psych ward, but I'd be equally surprised if many people install more than 10 mods.
Consider that modding the game is already a power user type thing, and a lot of console shitters play this game and they literally can't.

>>532738074
Imagine if they just worked on a heat meter, and the l1 did proper downswing damage like it did in ratclick.

>>532735838
Based

wtf is happenning like 1 week ago people were shitting on kf3 saying it was a horrible game and now it's full of "hey it's not that bad" or "enjoying it actually" did they fix the game just before launch?

>>532739690
>Imagine if they just worked on a heat meter
They'd then lose their signature part of their identity. Thammers specifically have the special activation be 1 big burst because that is how it works in the lore.

>>532740020
it's just to get some (you)s

>>532740020
1 week ago was the open beta where everyone could play for free and judge the game for its gameplay
Now that the game is released the only people still playing and talking about it are those that were willing to pay 40 bucks for it, that's why it seems like general opinion has shifted

>mfw they added a rapier waifu to For Honor

It's over, I'm gone, leaving this general forever