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Battle Plan - Edition

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>Official site
https://warthunder.com/

>Fan created content
https://live.warthunder.com/

>Wiki with info on tech trees, weapon systems and game mechanics
https://wiki.warthunder.com/Main_Page
https://old-wiki.warthunder.com/Main_Page

>Old forums archive:
https://pastebin.com/EyMhsLAJ

>Guides to Air and Ground battles + MEC
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=742852313
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1hgHbWlSjefFhCqOUeGpoKQntdQDPG32X7XQo9EqDF00
https://old-forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/438251-strategic-tips-for-ground-battle-maps-36-maps-90-videos-as-of-28august2020

>Guides on missiles, radars, radar warning receivers
https://youtu.be/Weghk_2Dpf
https://youtu.be/_tQ6JzPWEFU
https://youtu.be/DOGazUgUdsQ
https://youtu.be/wAtTS8xSYEc

>Guides on how to evade missiles and survive top tier:
https://youtu.be/AsmGiyODPuM
https://youtu.be/vUJJ94NwH_g
https://youtu.be/NbKcAdLoWDk

>Guided weapons statistics
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1SsOpw9LAKOs0V5FBnv1VqAlu3OssmX7DJaaVAUREw78

>What tanks have thermals and their generations
https://thunderview.net/thermals/

>Someone sending you runes?
https://translate.yandex.com/ocr

>Dank Bants
https://files.catbox.moe/iufhcc.txt

>Statistics on modes, players, vehicles, etc, etc.:
https://statshark.net/

Reminder: it is a bad plan that cannot be changed

Thread Theme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnvVgp7prOo

They never going to add BTR-3s because only Rashia is allowed fire on the move ATGMs

>team up with krautoids
>A gets fucked from north and south

protoshit bmp horde is now aware of your location
what do you do

>>538140831
GUNNER, HEAT, PC!

>>538140831
commence firing

Game needs more stuff like the wiesels.

>>538140089
I will contat FSB and tell them war thunder stuff are Ukrainian spies if Anton even makes SU-47 or mig1.44 premiums ad not squadron/event vehicles

>>538141689
remove those ghost commanders operating MG's and i'll fuck up half enemy team

AJAX next patch

SU-27P when
SU-27SM3 when
SU-27PU when
SU-27M when
SU-35S when
SU-37 when
MiG-29 (9.12, Fulcrum-A) when
MiG-29S when
MiG-29SM when
MiG-29K when
MiG-29M when
MiG-35 when

>>538142441
Extremely soulless when post.

>>538141689
wtf, how did you get up there and how did they not see you

>>538143041
isnt low tier like this? bridges are destroyed so you cant cross the river

>>538136739
>https://live.warthunder.com/post/1150385/ru/
ziggers got mad and made a banderite flag copy
https://live.warthunder.com/post/1150458/ru/

>>538142152
That other ww2 gaijin game has that, should be a thing for the older vehicles that aren't remotecontrolled/camera.

>>538143393
A few of those piles have smooth enough surface to get up it with enough speed.
Also probably thermalvisioned.

we gaan

>>538144261
I was about to post that hahaha.

what's the best tank

>>538144937
T29

>>538144937
M60A3 TTS

>>538144937
according to Gaijin

>>538144937
T-80-CHUD

>>538144937
IS-2

>>538145328
>tfw only about average by .02

>>538145328
Stats are inflated due to the small playerbase

>>538145328
any difference between the german KV-1 and a russian one?

>>538145612
Doesn't face german guns

the J-10 is a small plane for small men

>>538145891
surprised .ru blog post didnt say Great patriotic war

>>538145891
finally

>>538145328
bro thats player performance

man NA server been kinda shitting itself past few days

>>538146096
they're trying really hard to be inclusive for the chinks now

>>538146387
Silence. Player statistics are talking.

>>538146998
holy shit it's john gaijin

>enemy when I fire a missile
>flare flare flare flare flare flare flare
>enemy when a friendly fires a missile
>let me just do nothing and fly in a completely straight line even though I know there's combat around me

>>538148447
You're not very friendly.

>>538149067
how do I improve my demeanor :(

New patch when?

>>538152191
november

>>538140089
>>538141924
These two should be in the TT after the Yak-141 to give the Soviet tree brand-new answers to the Eurocanards. The MiG-29M and Su-27M should be the premiums/event vehicles since the MiG-29OVT and Su-37 in the TT are the same exact planes respectively but better (TVC) and that's usually how it goes (Mirage 2000C-S4 and S5, Kfir C.2 and C.7, etc).

>>538152191
end of october, more or less coinciding wit the sales and birthday event

>>538152191
Between now and then.

Fug I'm late
Korea for Japan

Why do we care about the new patch again? There's nothing in it.

>KF-21
>KAAN
Man, jap top tier will be fun

Are Sea Harriers good? I need something to grind rank 7

play brazil

>>538155201
I like watching the client update on steam

Does anyone else have trouble with laser guided bombs when dropping from high altitude? It seen like when the bomb locks onto the laser, it super over-corrects to the point where the laser goes out of the seeker's view and it just drops somewhere in the completely different location, not even anywhere close to the CCIP indicator

>>538155558
The Squadron one is quite good at getting high then raining down 9L's on unsuspecting/occupied enemies. Same as the premium harrier but that's 0.3 BR higher.

>>538155558
Why wouldn't you use the FGR.2

>>538155201
nobody is excited
it's the most nothingburger update in recent years

>>538156253
because AIM-9G and Skyflash (AIM-7E) at that BR are complete ass these days

>>538156341
I'm looking forward to the pretty missile contrails

>>538156217
When tossing them sometimes, yeah. It's weird, I don't really know what causes it. If you can CCIP them close to the target I sometimes turn the laser on just for terminal approach, but that's cumbersome. If possible I use relatively steep approaches, those never cause problems for me.

>>538156227
Isn't that the same J-7D does but with worse aircraft and missiles?

LMURape

>>538156635
I've noticed that too, it's just that it has never done this until fairly recently

ty fren

>>538156916
I wonder how well a fairly small HE warhead will do against MBTs
If it manages to hit the roofs most of the time, it should be more reliable than Spikes

>trying to get my 5 kills for my wager to advance
>3 games in a row my team have been literal terminators
wtf...

>>538156834
Pretty much yeah. You have less speed and WAAAY less range on missles but the playstyle is about the same

>>538157123
best fnf right now

>>538141689
Soon...

>>538157304
Actually after looking at the stats, it has over 19KG TNT equivalent, that's not bad at all

Why is it always the 50%-or-lower-winrate blues at the boittom of the scoreboard who complain about the team in chat?

Should i send this do gaijin? So they add the Fenice and make it stronk

>>538157553
it rapes everything it touches

>>538157195
Sounds miserable

>>538157591
>be bad
>be mad

>>538156631
this is something that can be done via hotfix not major update

>>538157682
>ai thumbnail
nigga couldn't even spend 2 seconds in photoshop to put aw249 and apache pics

>>538158046
>AI
Those just look like really bad 3d models.

>>538158046
Yeah i know, it's a shit channel with AI voice and script and "le epix remix royalty free music" in the background. Everything the channel says it's retarded, i don't watch it. But it was on my feed lmao.

This said, about the AW249, i think that helicopters are inherently obsolete in battle right now, but i've got a close friend working at Leonardo and they might be having breakthrougs in drone swarm technology and they are testing capabilities on the Fenice.

>>538157741
Oh it is. At least in the J7D if you miss your shot you go on a straight line and extend away. Good luck doing that with a harrier lol

How should you grind japan's jets? I have the saber now, I figure alpha jet into f-5 into f-15
is the 11.0 phantom worth using over the f-5?

>>538158298
>bad 3d models.
look at the rocket pods on appache
it's AI

love me chieftain mk 10, simple as

>>538158489
A6M5 Ko into finishing RankV, then F-5E-FCU with a talisman into RankVIII, then play every jet you like.
The squadron F-5E-FCU is better than the tech tree F-5T-SCU.
The Phantom can be good if you know how to use a missle truck but overall the F-5E is just broken right now, i'd only use that for the grind.
For the fun, play both the F-15, the F-16AJ, the F-2 and the Jas39C

ZTZ-100 when?

>>538158489
T-2 is pretty good

>>538158489
FCU is literally the best F-5 in the game
also the F-16AJ is actually pretty good at 12.7

Man the TTAAB lore of war thunder is fucking wild.
Not many people play it, so there are 3 top squadrons who recruit every good player into them, and only play by 4-stacking in voice comms. Those people have bad blood against each other (like horde and alliance in fucking warcraft-tier) but obviously the random timmy into the game gets obliterated during their never-ending skirmish.
And then there's a fourth party:
>an incel neet basedguy with a squeeky voice
And he's so good that rapes everything in a lobby, even the 4 stacked sweat teams.

And then those squadron LITERALLY tried to dox him, to false flag his profiles into ruining xhis life or getting him banned (without success until now)
So much that this cuck had to activate the privacy mode changing his name for every match... but the fucking squadron sweatlords literally made a spreadsheet of all the possible names he could have so they can spot him with a fake name and gank him...
and YET this cuck still rapes the sweatlords by hopping squadron to squadron with a fake name to be "masked"

Total AUTISM

>>538158489
T2 Early premium if you can wait a whole year for its anniversary, otherwise what >>538158951 said.

AV-8S if you have the money to burn. Don't try to turnfight with it, just take opportunistic missile shots at flareless jets fighting friendlies.

>>538161437
Holy based demolisher of sweats...

>>538160572
never, chinks will be punished with another copy-paste after their VT4 chimpout

>>538161657
>gaijew
>punishing their chink paypiggies
x fucking D!

>>538161657
delete this. when palantir catches this comment and sells it to the chinese, you might be the one to offend the feelings of 1 billion people

>>538161437
>TTAAB
whats that

>>538161847
>>538161847
Top tier air arcade battles

>>538161521
>>538161225
>>538160583
>>538158951
Thanks anons I will go for the SCU then, and maybe try the T-2 though I do not expect a flareless jet to be very fun at 9.7

>>538161995
You can use ghetto flares.
If you have an SL earner you can easily just grind up by spading trash along the way without wasting money on random prems.
Also a talisman on a good plane like the Alpha Jet or F16AJ is a much better investment.

>>538161437
Should be based, however anyone playing arcade air higher than props is cringe.

>>538161995
Just keep your speed at about mach 0.9 minimum and you are fine. Dodging missiles without flares is fun

>>538161437
oh is it that one youtuber guy

>>538162336
I think so as well, and i ONLY play ARB, but i have to admit something after watching how an AAB match developes:
Playing TTAAB takes way more skill and game sense than playinh TTARB and the skill ceiling is actually higher, even because they get cooler maps.

>>538161995
I wouldnt get T-2 they are just not fun to play
AV-8s can be fine but I still wouldnt get it
desu even SCU is still kinda meh
for the F-5 its either FCU or bust (dont know about TCU yet)

>>538162492
yeah but he didn't buy any ad

>>538145328
>extremely busted T18E2 stays at 3.0 forever
>the AEC Mk.II, essentially the same vehicle but worse, gets moved up to 3.3
I hate the snail.

>>538158951
not op but pls spoonfed me for ground tech tree i got chi-nu II

>>538163269
tracks > wheels

Do commander leadership skill bonuses disappear when he buys the farm?

>>538163460
both of those have wheels you doofus

>>538161995
T2 Early, and the tech tree versions T2 and F1 get Zuni rocket pods which work well as pseudo flares. So long as you're not afterburning, you can fire 2-3 of those missiles 30-45 degrees away from you and misdirect an incoming IR missile. But most of the time, you should be going fast enough to be able to dodge them without needing to fire the rocket.

>>538163628
oh nvm i read it as the A.C.I. from the picture
my bad lol

>>538144261
got deleted. The ukie one remains
Anton's going to the gulag

>>538145328
>A.C.I
So this is why they think the Ram I can go at 3.0

Vehicles for this feel?

>>538164815
Fw-190 with Ruhrstahl X-4

>>538164815
Anything German in arcade mode

>>538163380
Alright, Chi-Nu 2 is basically a PzIV with less armour at 4.3. It's good by you cannot be retarded with it. Basically the same with the Chi-To and Chi-To late. This just shows how handheld the low tier german PzIV truly is.
Other gem is the Ho-Ri, that wagon is a fucking handheld niggerbunker even after the nerf of the model. I honestly HATED the ST-A1, ST-A2, ST-A3 but at least for me this was the only suffering.
Type74 and STB-1 at 8.3 are decent, but when you reach 9.3 you are set.
Keybind your hydropneumatic suspensions and have fun with the Type74 and the Type16 with their handheld rounds that are now decompressed (i used to playto play them against Leo2a4 and Abrams before the decompression, and the Type16(FPS) even had only the shitty M735 round.
You are the king of hill peeking and you can UFP everything.

Their autocannon gokarts are fun if you like the playstyle, then you reach the Type90 and the TKX. They are basically a sidegrade of an abrams (less survivability but faster firerate and good mobility) so you should play it as a light tank and be a master flanker.

>crash jet
>instead of waiting for crew to come back to life to go play another nation
>only reserve planes at br 1
>arkaden
>feels good
>low damage gives more ability to outmaneuver
who knew flying could actually be fun

>>538160572
abrams brutally mogged

>>538165919
you aren't supposed to do that

>>538165983
have fun? yeah, I know

>>538145730
*didn't
you have both italian and swedish german tanks now

>>538165773
into the struggle buss i go ,thx

>>538164815
when you get a full downtier with Maus

Is this thing gonna be any good? Armor protection and reload seem mediocre, can't test drive for mobility.
And does this use the same Iron Fist APS as the Chally, in addition to the one on the front turret?

>mmW radar
>SALH
>IIR
I don't get how they cram all of that in there.

>>538169694
fuck, why didn't it attach the image

Should I bother with Tornado? or just beeline for Typhoon?
the Early F.3 at 12.0 seem nice to play
its seem like better FGR.2 that I'm using now at the same BR

Join LowIQ if you haven't a squadron yet

>>538169694
there is a reason that variant of it didn't enter service, but gaijin is too scared to add MMW radar missiles even though dual spectrum smoke exists so we will just have to deal with protoshit missiles

>>538145328
>e100
only owned by sweets and cheaters, has way better armor profile than the maus at the same BR, even lower now
>t18
also extremely rare, and low tier with good speed, ideal combo for experienced players to dab on newbies
>kv1b
used to be lower and face guns that had a hard time penning it, probably legacy stats as currently it's not fun to play
>is-7
rare event niggerbunker with buggy armor still seeing ww2 tanks, absolutely insanity
>A C I
probably same as the t18 though never played or seen this, most likely a sealclubber

>>538170019
Dunno. The missiles are better

>>538170523
>probably same as the t18 though never played or seen this, most likely a sealclubber
Smaller, roughly the same mobility, 2.8 s reload aced (as opposed to 5 s for the Boarhound). I'd argue it's just as good, even though I didn't play either of them much. Come to think of it I don't even remember what even the A.C.I is from.

>Japan gets the oplot
lol
lmao even

>>538170445
It's not really just about what countermeasures there would be I think. mmW radar absolutely sucks at dealing with cluttered environments. For GRB the seeker would only be able to differentiate somewhat isolated targets for the last couple hundred meters of the approach, and by then they're bound to be nowhere close to where you initially fired at.

>>538171227
>mmW radar absolutely sucks at dealing with cluttered environments
it can basically see straight through trees, though I am unsure with buildings

>>538170019
The early one is same missiles as Phantom but a great radar and AIM-9Ls
The BR might be a bit more tolerable now half the F-16s have gone up, but Skyflash still sucks compared to later model AIM-7s and R-27ER

>>538171341
Not what I meant. It has very poor angular resolution, so it can't differentiate returns until they're very close. At the start of a match there's 24 vehicles on the map in very close proximity, as the match progresses you have dozens of wrecks, all usually very close together. Check the thread on the AGM-114L on the forums, some autist made some pictures for it.

Ah, so this is that new torpedo on the Tu-14T.

It can be dropped from 10 km altitude.

fucking finally

>>538172236
>It can be dropped from 10 km altitude.
Does it have a parachute? How the fuck would that even work?
And is it guided? I don't see how it would be possible to hit anything otherwise with high drops.

>>538172656
uh, what?

>>538173075
I managed to research

>>538173463
But what?

is there no way to silence these retards just spamming air contact
i disabled their radio and it still doesn't shut them up

:^)

>>538139871 (OP)
Why is the aiming in naval arcade so dogshit?
>le just put mouse on target and le click, no need to actually lead or anything lel
>...unless enemy is doing literally anything, such as turning, in which case you literally have no means to hit target! No, there's nothing you can do about it, we literally force incorrect aiming even you you try to correct yourself!

Who thought this was good idea? Even WoWs lets you lead your shots.

I literally have easier time landing my shots in realistic but nobody fucking plays it

>>538172910
Rocket motor

>>538172910
>Does it have a parachute
yes
>And is it guided
no, and not in real life either

It took me awhile, but I got it.

Man J-8B is so much better than J-7E. Why are they even on the same br?

Also, post skins.

whaaat

>>538174697
GigaUFO FM, infinite flares, good avionics, solid missiles - not much to complain about.

>teamkilled by a SARH missile
that's new

>>538174206
Because gookjew are retarded faggots that don't play their game, they just look at "muh le statistics" and do fiddling based on that.

>>538170276
How many days of inactivity do you allow?

>>538176008
There's no hard limit. Unless you play like, once a week, you will be fine.

>>538174697
being forced defensive for the entire game while your team disintegrates around you

>>538173596
you can mod the voice clip to something else

>>538176073
Nigger, I play like 7 times a month.

>>538173619
guess I'll have to grind Japan.........

>>538174697
if this is your very first top tier plane then good job
time to learn how to dodge radar missiles

>>538176930
It's probably just because Thailand's F-16 use them, rather than proofs of Korea going to Japan

>>538173619
ANTON YES!!

>>538176846
That's...more than once a week.

>>538179124
what are you implying

>>538179204
I'm implying that at worst you gonna get fucking kicked out for inactivity. We have like 20 people with 0 activity, and a lot of openings.

>b1ter is 2.7 now
lmao

>>538179570
too many words, your tag isn't going to be next to my username.

KOREA CONFIRMED FOR JAPAN
KOREA CONFIRMED FOR JAPAN
KOREA CONFIRMED FOR JAPAN
KOREA CONFIRMED FOR JAPAN
KOREA CONFIRMED FOR JAPAN
KOREA CONFIRMED FOR JAPAN

>>538179678
I'm just a random passerby, I don't care either way.

>>538173691
Why would you lead? Ships don't do that IRL.

>>538179826
since KF-21 is currently 4.5 gen aircraft, I hope it comes for japan before the gen 5 bullshittery kek

>>538179826
WE'RE SO BACK

>>538180639
more like a 3.5 gen like an F-14A, F-4 KWS, or Rafale.

>>538178000
i thought thai mostly use jewish munitions
the whole F-5 upgrade program were from jews
they were spamming jewish cluster bombs during the border war
and reminder that the whole war start because they were bitching about muh war crime of using land mine

>realistic battles
arcadesissies…

>>538180883
absolute jap cope
kf-21 block 1 is 4.5 gen
kf-21 block 2 will be 5th gen

>>538181198
>they were spamming jewish cluster bombs during the border war
anon...

DEUTSCHLAND suffers. The Tree needs it's EAST GERMAN armaments.

T-54A
T-55-AM2B
BMP-2
ZSU-23
ZSU-57
2K11-KRUG
2K12-KUB
OTR-21 Tochka Scarab
LUNA-M
BM-21 GRAD
S-300PMU

>>538179570
more inactive players = lesser score
you should prune

>>538182010
>>538181427
what was it
did Cambodia even have an ir force

>>538182095
Nope. Cambodia is poor as shit, only has ancient t54s and t55s. Even Laos is richer than them. They have T72 white eagle models.

>>538182095
MiG-21s and some trainers

I haven't gotten a full down tier in 18 battles now at 9.0. Sure is interesting....

>>538182289
it feels that even if somebody does have mig-21 in their fleet these days and even if they can fly nobody actually sends mig 21 to fight anymore

>>538181408
You shouldn't disrespect your colonial master/great grandfather like that Kim.

In order to be a 4th gen you need to have good kinematics and BVR capability. What a draggy piece of shit lmao.

Fake 4th gen just like the Rafale.

No more 4.5+ gen copes. Bring in the actual 5th gens.

>>538182095
i still dont get it
why cant the cambodian at least get a pantsir/tor or two or something before starting the fight?
even if they get an old model that probably would not work in actual fight
but just by having it and showing it off on social media
would already deter thailand from sending dozen of CAS plane to bomb all their shits

>>538169436
thats the one already in game
the 11.7 one is the one that's getting added

>>538182748
not for another year

>UMM ACKSHUALLY ARCADE NUKES ARE LE HARDER!
holy consoleshitter cope

>>538182520
>in order to be 4th gen you need [some bullshit I made up that make my jap obsesseds sissy clit hard]
ok

>>538182764
>pantsir
worse than useless

>>538182764
They are poor

>stealth planes get added
>missile don't work on them because STEALTH
>any stealth v stealth is a dogfight
>russians win every time

>>538140086
That fat south african bus with the triple rocket launcher is supposed to be fire on the move and yet can't. It was in a document they used to change something else on it and just apparently can't read the rest.

>>538183317
stealth will never be properly modeled becasue it hurts the feelings of the russian people

>>538183180
Pantsir nerfed to irl performance when?

>pantsir merely mentioned
>INSTANT pigger melty
you love to see it

>>538183180
but but I keep getting killed by it in warthunder

>>538183571
Gaijin said that war thunder is set in fictional world where there are no maulfunctions and every piece of equipment works just as engineers designed it
makes sense that pantsir works in war thunder and not in real life

>>538183317
anon you realise stealth is a long distance thing right? at the engagement distances we have ingame now stealth wont matter

>>538183571
warthunder?

??? why were they fatal in the first place???

>>538183683
exactly why the f-35 will be bad lol

>you can now land a plane in GFRB, j out, spawn a tank, then hop back into the plane
holy shit

>>538183117
The KF-21 is a fake 4th gen like the Rafale, designed purely for national LARP.

The KF-21 has bad kinematics.
The Rafale lacks BVR capability.

>>538183665
>works just as engineers designed it
lol, lmao even.

>>538183317
thats probably why all the next-gen stealth planes all have fancy super thrust vectoring shits and some unflareable IR missile
16.0 ARB matches will play like 10.7 BR

>>538183180
Most of the time, it's the KA-52 taking down all of these low flying drones, not the pantsir, Are Helicopters better at anti air?

being able to see who is maximum downtier in your game is really funny like that one guy with a jpz 4-5 is fucking you over haahahhaha

>>538183740
true
however F-22 and whatever chinese copy they will add exist

f-22 10k gold eagle price

>>538183180
buggy netcode

>>538183795
She would look better if she was fat.

I will now play China

>full spaa lineup
>sit in spawn
>no enemy aircraft spawn for 5 matches

at what point do i just call bullshit on the match making? there aint nothing natural about this shit.

>>538184298
>same T/W ratio as Su-57 and substantially worse than Su-57M
>only 2D thrust vectoring
>no ginormous LEVCONs
>no LDIRCM for complete immunity against IR missiles
>no side-looking radars for gigaHOBS shots
The F-22A is undoubtedly gonna rape everything else but I'm thinking the Su-57 is wining the dogfight, it has so much going for it in knife fights even besides raw flight performance.

f-22A will be TT
yf-22 will be premium
yf-23 will be event

>>538184981
>>538184298
>thrust vectoring
>good for dogfighting

Have you niggers not seen what happens the moment shitters use their AoA buttons?

>>538185306
shitters use their aoa buttons in the middle of the map on the first person that passes them, in an actual 1v1 it matters

>>538183870
zamn this weeb sure has his sissyclit hard for korean stuff

>>538185306
Thrust vectoring is literally what turns the AoA button from a meme to a menace, being able to keep your nose pointed wherever indefinitely (as long as you have altitude) is a very powerful asset to have in a 1v1 when combined with HOBS-capable missiles.

>f22 killing anything
lmao it couldn't even kill a baloon

>>538185453
1v1 does not happen in top tier
90% of games end while most of the team slings missles at eachothers
>inb4 you're last one alive against last enemy
then he fires missle at you when you're less than 10km away from him

How about larger maps for sim and use of awacs? Or is that too much?

su57 is like a temu ad

>>538185717
>then he fires missle at you when you're less than 10km away from him
Why is this an issue? You can't defeat against missiles being fired by just one guy? Literally just notch, chaff and flare, there are no truly undefeatable missiles and there won't be if they never model IIR seekers.

>>538185717
yes i know it doesnt happen
whats going to make su57 f22 and chinese thingy strong are the good engines and good aoa in general

>>538185916
>defeat
defend*

russians really did take su-35, made it flat and said
>here tovarish, da best 5th gen plane))))))))

finally

niggerbunker kino alert

>>538186148
Got to keep going to 2000 now

I have researched the entirety of french ground, what should I do now?

>>538186252
food for the strv 122b+ alert

>>538186148
>>538186554
so what do you get out of not using them

>>538186565
french bluewater

>>538186945
number go up

fuck you, I am not posting 6 pics in a row
https://www.reddit.com/r/Warthunder/comments/1naab8h/new_leaks_from_olivia/
japanese VT-4 + a lot of infrantry stuff

>>538187469
we already know the jap VT-4 is delayed

>>538187469
So they're doing infantry after all? I lost all hope when I learned the March 31st trailer footage was all Active Matter (which wasn't at all clear at the time since the tanks didn't appear in official footage of that game until just a few weeks ago).

If I show up on the map and there is a magic little icon above my head when I'm scouted then I should be able to have the same witch craft to let me know when I've been scouted.

>>538146096
hey vatnik fact check the US single handedly defeated germany and japan

>>538187987
>Germany
was a team effort
>Japan
was a 'team effort' with USA doing like, 80% of the work

anybody plays bore blunder on steam deck
how is it

>Tiger II 105 ammo nerf
>Coelian gets a new round
>Panther II engine nerf
they are bringing them back in November update/anniversary sale, aren't they

>>538187469
all the infantry stuff is probably not for war thunder but for that infantry battle royale game they're making
it's not unusual for devs to hide parts for a new game in another game if it's the same engine

538187987

Reminder that Italy won WW2

what is the difference between the VT-4 and the VT-4A1? is it being added to just pad out the chinese tree?

>>538188368
APS

why is the dispersion on 30mm cannons so bad? especially the badger ifv

>>538189013
not russian

>>538189013
It's not... if you're playing a russian 30mm bmpnegrowagon

>>538182885
Oh, I should look at that tree more often. Is it any good?

I don't do tasks anymore but 120 critical hits? that's at least ten hours of gameplay right? what the fuck

Holy crap the tracking on the M247 and the M163 is terrible. Aim at the circle, in front of it, behind it, around it, it just doesn't matter. Maybe if the servers were decent, people played on the server closest to them, and people updated their internet it wouldn't be bad but this is beyond painful. I just hope proxy makes the M247 worth it. I'm about 16 battles away from it going at this rate.

>>538190041
like 70% of tasks are designed to be a waste of time to waste your SL on rerolling

>>538189109
>>538189461
its crazy how much of the game is just wrong when you look into it

Mi-28MN, I kneel.

>>538188261
>me on my way to spread lies on the internet

>>538190041
It's why I mostly prefer tasks like the one involving getting Thunderer and 20 base kills.

>>538190449
>>538190153
yeah I just buy the premium vehicles I want on the market for scraps as I am employed but this is fucking retarded
No one should have to do this shit

Using anticheat makes my computer scream even tho I'm not using cheats

>>538188184
>team effort
KEK! BBCCR was on it's fucking knees without lend-lease. They should be thanking their AMERIGOD masters

>>538190549
I can reliably do small + medium in an hour to hour and a half, but I am also top 0,5% of players
How is an average player supposed to do the BP is beyond me, even games like WoT have 4 of "deal X damage", "win X games", "get X kills" and the like, so you are always progressing something at a reasonable pace

Those SPICE 2000 bombs look pretty damn cool.

>>538190102
The M247 with proxy is pretty good. Without it it's awful.

>>538190369
>speculating about speculating is now spreading lies
nigga get real

>>538188234
Would be unfathomably based. Also what BR?

>>538190956
>SPICE 2000
what are they filled with

>>538190921
yeah, I'm sure I could still do events if I rerolled tasks like this but obviously people with jobs aren't going to be able to
this game is first world advantage as fuck, indians will sell me the event vehicles for less than one hour of work

>>538190891
Why don't commies have a dedicated holiday to praising the USA again? They practically saved their ass and allowed them to thrive.

>>538188234
Had to check.
>Tiger II 105 ammo nerf
Increases penetration by 20mm, decreases explosive mass from 343 to like 125 grams.
>Coelian gets a new round
Still the same round but the muzzle velocity has been increased from 770 (AP) and 820 (HE) to 1000 m/s.
>Panther II engine nerf
Still 900 HP.

having collected information and sources on nato 30mm cannons and their dispersion being extremely incorrect and should be closer to 0.4 meters at 2km
what are the chances my bug report will still be ignored because they dont use the sources they want?

xD
guys they're using slow and old planes against jets!!

>>538191003
Shot at this aircraft 500 times and didn't get a single hit. That's just crazy to me. Shooting at the marker didn't work. Shooting behind or in front of it didn't work. Wiggling my mouse like a damn idiot didn't work. It wasn't doing ultra fast evasive maneuver and wasn't a billion miles away. Awful doesn't begin to describe the m247.

>>538191908
>Still the same round but the muzzle velocity has been increased from 770 (AP) and 820 (HE) to 1000 m/s.
The German 37 mm SPAAs have two HE shells, the better one (M.Gr.18) goes at 914 m/s and has more than twice the filler of the standard one. That one should always be used against air. It's not in the mixed belt, which is why you should never use it on those vehicles.
On the Coelian that shell now goes up to 1040 m/s. I only looked at the APHE shell until your post, but this is also a really great change. The thing is already superb against air, but this will make it even better in that role. The shells are now faster than the ones of the Praga, and I'm pretty sure they bleed speed slower too.

>>538192594
It's first order prediction, so if the plane does ANYTHING you end up missing. The firerate and velocity of the US 40 mm is awful compared to other radar SPAAs, so without proxy you're just fucked. With normal HE the thing is about as effective as the damn ZSU-37-2 at 7.7.

>>538192681
>>538191908
forgot pic related
I wonder if this will cause it to go up in BR. It already was arguably the best non radar SPAA (except for the WZ305 of course).

>tfw this skin is 14 GJN

No fair, it's the only actual green skin on the 105 Tiger.

>>538193364
base skins on the 105 tiger are fine, I don't know why anyone would pay for a skin

notching is such a retarded mechanic

>>538193364
>mfw this tank is unobtainable
at least you have it

Just need half a dozen more of these and I'll eventually get the proxy.

>>538193607
If it costs peanuts, then it's fine. For some vehicles buying a cheap skin is actually preferable over playing with a normal skin. See the Japanese Tiger in its default camo.

Why do Russians and Chinks get all of their latest equipment vs NATO which is 15-20 years behind at all times?

>>538190041
10 hours?
bro
an hour
maybe 2
just take your [autocannon nigger vehicle of choice] out and spray

>>538194204
I'm with you I think
Tiger 2 105 doesn't need a paid skin imo, tanks like the german t-34 look like ass on standard

>>538194679
why ask questions you already know the answer to

>>538194796
ragebait

>>538193854
it's fictional

>>538194781
You missed out on the green one when it was cheap. Surprisingly to see how extremely cheap the German Sherman skin is (0,13).

>>538195268
it exists in war thunder althoughbeit

>>538195291
I own the Kv-1B so I don't feel I missed out
I do kind of wish I had the german sherman though..

>spending money on this game
>ever
lmao

>>538195150
you're the one raging round the clock, thoughbeit?

>>538195663
>not yet having realized time is worth more than money
yikes

>>538195742
im not him

when is the oplot getting its aps, armor, vertical guidance, round, and reload fixed?

>>538193854
I have tiger 105
Koelian and Maus
and I NEVER play germany anymore

>Go to divebomb enemy base
>Accidentally hit my own propeller
>Have to glide back to base with a fucked engine
>Still fuck the landing
200IQ piloting skills.

>>538195778
Explain to me how that makes sense when you're buying cosmetics for a fucking video game lmao.

>>538196579
I can get behind not buying cosmetics for a video game if you don't have a bunch of vehicles stocked up from before the chinese entered the market

premium vehicles are 100% worth it if you actually play this game though

>constantly top 3 on my team
>rest of the team is 0-1 kills
>lose streak
very nice

>>538196815
So you spend money to grind faster? Are you playing this game to grind?

We need to go beyond...

>>538197154
No
I bought the Kv-220 to have fun recently

What will trigger the next Chinese melty?

>>538197226
They think they won with no VT-4 this update. They're still gonna have a melty when it's out next update.

TOTAL JAPANESE GLUTTONY

AIR:

>F-15JSI
>F-35A
>F-35B
>P-1
>MiG-25P (captured)

>F-16C Block 52D (South Korea)
>F-15K (South Korea)
>KF-21 Boramae(South Korea)

>MiG-21bis (North Korea)
>MiG-29S (North Korea)
>MiG-23ML (North Korea)
>Su-7BMK (North Korea)
>H-5 (North Korea)
>J-7I (North Korea)
>Su-25K (North Korea)

>SAAB Gripen E (Thailand)

>SU-27SKM (Indonesia)
>SU-30SKM (Indonesia)
>SU-30MK2 (Indonesia)
>Rafale F4 (Indonesia)
>F-15EX (Indonesia)

GROUND:

>Chu-MPM
>Type 96 MPMS
>Type 24 WAFV
>Type 25 RSV
>CCV
>Type 11 SAM
>Type 03 Chu-SAM
>Patriot PAC-2
>Patriot PAC-3

>K1 (South Korea)
>K1A1(South Korea)
>K2 (South Korea)
>K21 (South Korea)
>K30 Biho (South Korea)
>T-80U (South Korea)
>BMP-3 (South Korea)
>K-SAM Chunma (South Korea)
>KM-SAM (South Korea)

>Type 59 (North Korea)
>Type 62 (North Korea)
>PT-76 (North Korea)
>M1985 (North Korea)
>Chonma-ho (North Korea)
>Pokpung-ho (North Korea)
>Songun-915 (North Korea)
>Cheonma-2 (North Korea)
>BTR-80A (North Korea)
>M2010 (North Korea)
>Bulsae-4 (North Korea)

>VT-4 (Thailand)

>PT-91M (Malaysia)

>Leopard 2RI (Indonesia)
>BTR-4 (Indonesia)

>Leopard2A4 (Singapore)
>Leopard 2A7 (Singapore)
>Bionix AFV (Singapore)
>Hunter AFV (Singapore)

>>538193854
I have the Coelian, Panther II, 105 KT and Maus. I'm still anally devastated I don't have neither the M26E1 nor the German Sherman.

>>538197698
>K9

>>538197165
now put an aircraft carrier next to it

>>538198194
The M26E1 goes on sale once per year

>>538198895
It does? I must've missed it every time then.

>>538197698
DPRK will join China.

>>538199464
Was in early July this year and last year. Couldn't find an entry for 2023, but I'm sure it went on sale there too.

why didnt they put the ukrainian tank into the soviet tech tree?

Do commander leadership skill bonuses disappear when he buys the farm?

>>538200237
no, same as for all other crew members. only reload gets slower if your loader is gone

Bundeswehr sky ranger 30.

>upgrade to 9070 XT
>only getting 120-150fps max no RT
>65-90fps RT ultra
>power draw at half
>tinker for hours
>turn off AMD metric overlay
>250-350fps max no RT
>110-145fps max RT Ultra
What in the fuck

>>538200529
love it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yO-Pun-IX6w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdwjcayPuag

>>538198194
German Sherman is a waste of money. The tank itself is good but German teams are incredibly bad at that BR.

Bundeswehr test brand new GMARs.

>>538200667
certain overlays just seem to break this game n dx12 i think
i cant use WTRTI anymore because it chunks my fps down from 165 capped to like 20. its crazy

>>538200529
This would be a nice tech tree boxer for Germany.

>>538200918
Eh I am just thankful it's that easy of a fix. I was worried that my card was defective and that I would have to send it back/exchange it.

please dont fix the x-4, PLEASE ANTON I NEED IT :(

>5 enemies camping spawn
>leave
>4 minutes crew lock
Anything other than a 5 and I'm uninstalling.

>>538202009
>fix
it was just a different model with copy pasted aim9b stats

why the fuck is the m4/t26 at 6.0br?

>>538200768
After years of strenuous research, developement and 16 billion euros spent Germany proudly presents an M270 - now on wheels. Truly marvelous.

>>538200529
What missiles did they end up giving the thing? I feel like that thing is going to face into obsolescence in less than a decade considering how everyone is rushing to field fibre lasers.

>>538203093
The US 90 mm is a great gun, but yeah, considering it has no stab 5.7 would be reasonable.

>maps are terrible
>balance is terrible
>sound design is terrible
>hit reg is terrible
>damage models are terrible
>match making is terrible

Am I missing anything?

>>538204320
Most of the issues listed don't apply if you just play WW2 stuff.

What in the actual fuck is wrong with barrels?
>50 rounds of AP 35 mm
>APDS
>HEATFS
they fucking absorb all of them holy shit

>>538205379
they buffed barrels because gluttony (germany) kept complaining

Yah, proxy fuses make the M247 feel illegal. God bless.

>>538206086
Congrats on grinding it out.
The WZ 305 and Begleitpanzer feel great too.

>>538197698
>>538184542
fatfags cannot be considered human

>>538206610
Took me 55 battles to get it, but it was worth it? It's comical how easy it is to shoot things down now.

>>538207282
7 air kills should have a much higher reward than that

>>538206957
They're ubermench.

I wish this thing had proxy.

>>538208107
I wish it was still at a reasonable BR like 7.3

>>538205875
surely you jest...

>>538208107
It has the elevation, so it's quite frustrating that it doesn't

>>538208005
tall girls are good but there are zero upsides to fat girls, either they're lazy or they have bad genes

well?

What in the call of duty fuck is this map?

>>538210492
leaked from world of tanks

how do you spade helis now that it's impossible to not have an autocannon vehicle in every single BR?

>>538209475
Anything below 30 BMI is fine with me

>>538211000
golden eagles

>>538211000
play jets instead

>m247, imp, and m163 all refused to lock onto his buccaneer
Is it stealth or something?

>>538215043
weakest indian ace

>>538211000
play 1000 rounds of ground assault... per helicopter

Fella needs a chill pill.