Thread 538298904

Super Saiyan 4 Paragus edition!

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https://youtu.be/BPfh7-8Bdlc

http://youtu.be/v_8qBd-K7SQ

https://youtu.be/WYNsTMcQBg8

https://youtu.be/Vi4FYzp4GZ8

>Useful links:
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XV2 news:
>Future Saga 3 DLC on the way, release date TBA
>Festival of Universes 3 ended, both Universe 6 and 11 won twice between 4 platforms.

SDBH News/Resources:
>SDBH has ended...We are all Heroes! RIP 05/09/24
>SDBH Database: www.carddass.com/dbh/sdbh_mm/cardlist/
>Deck Autism: rentry.org/sdbhdecklist

DBSDV news:
>SDV3 leaked: More Frieza saga, SS3 Goku (Mini-Daima), and Gomah as notable GDRs and Giants returning as an Action Skill
>You can have a team of up to 8 characters (7 cards and an avatar)
>3 card types: Impact, Rush, and Boost
>CAA/TAA have been renamed as Action Skills
>If you collect all 7 dragon balls in-game and summon Shenron, you'll pull an guaranteed Super Rare card
>Avatars can also be Namekians or Fridges
>Avatars can also equip accessories and level up a skill tree
>If you max out your SDBH avatar's level and transfer them over to Superdivers, you can unlock default SDBH avatar skins for your Superdivers avatar

>HOW TO FIND YOUR XENOVERSE 2 SAVE ON STEAM guide:
steam > userdata > [your steam id] > 323470 > remote > DBXV21
DBXV2.sav should be there, which is your savefile
If you wish to delete it to try reimporting or for other reasons, disable steamcloud on both Xenoverse 1 and 2 first.

Kakarot:
>Daima DLC Part 1 will release on July 17th 2025
>Daima DLC Part 2 will release in early 2026

DB The Breakers:
>Season 9 launched with DBZ Broly Raider

>XV Booru: Upload drawfaggotry here
http://xenoverse.booru.org/

Rest in Peace, Akira Toriyama (3/1/2024)
Thank you

LAST TIME ON /dbg/: >>537931605

>>538298904 (OP)
Our HERO!

>>538299468
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Drj1ZhDzAP4

>>538298904 (OP)
>10x Musko Crush

I drew my Time Patrollers previously, so now I drew my Time Breakers

>>538301665
What's Madara doing amongst them.

>>538302442
He wants to get revenge against people making fun of his Ki Susanoo

>>538301665
Very cute evil team

>>538301665
Okay, but is there any character in the Time Patrol who can possibly even touch Uchiha Madara? Let alone defeat him.

>>538304189
By the end of Naruto, Kurama was talking about 10 tails' power, saying it's powerful enough to destroy mountains... Something Roshi did by accident in chapter 14. Naruto characters are rather low when it comes to raw power.

I'm going to host another tournament....
Need 16 fighters (no mods/card capture from PS2 with a cam link)

>>538306772
Pikkon

Super really should have ended with the Broly movie. After the finale of the ToP, it would've been a great high to go out on

>>538306772
Goku END.

>>538306772
Majin Vegeta

>>538306772
Kid Gohan

>>538306772
Perfect Cell

>>538307050
So you're essentially seething bout existence of a single movie? You can't even argue the movie ruins anything aside from the infamous meditation scene as it barely touches previous Super plotlines.

>>538307916
>infamous
Literally nobody outside of internet autists care about it or even remembers it.

>>538307652
>>538307584
>>538307451
Should I ask /v/ too to fill in the list?

>>538306772
kid goku
16
Frieza
random x8

>>538307916
I wasn't even really thinking of that in particular, just most of everything that came after DBS Broly like the Moro and Granolah crap has felt more and more derivative and uninteresting. Like the Super DBs that Super is named for haven't been fucking used since the ToP or even mentioned since. The premise of Super was the larger cosmology that was introduced, yet the stories just became smaller and smaller in scope, with bigger and bigger asspulls for stupidly strong GoD tier villains to show up

>>538306772
Pan

>>538308923
If you wanna

>>538311586
>like the Moro and Granolah crap has felt more and more derivative and uninteresting.
That's your mistake, taking the manga into account. Might as well judge DBZ based on Garlick Jr.

>>538313515
I tried in one thread... only got 11/16 at the moment need 5 more picks

>>538311586
You can direct all of that criticism toward Broly as well. Also, who cares about the ppeomotional fanfic?

>>538306772
Raditz

>>538313740
I nominated Freeza soldier so you only need 4 now

>>538313740
Base Broly

>Entire previous thread got deleted, only the OP archived
WTF?

>>538315140
Idk what happened.

>>538315065
Cute Zangya

I guess Piccolo didn't want to fight...

>>538315483
He was tired after winning the last one

Twitch dot tv /goseb90

>>538315840
Can't you just post the link directly like that?: https://www.twitch.tv/goseb90

Cooler needed to cheat and fuck up the stream to beat OUR HERO

>>538316053
The stream isn't fullscreen anymore, anon

>>538316053
Nice tits

I'm doing tests. Mid stream.
It's a PS2 game, what's the highest a PS2 game can capture without losing some quality with a cam capture?

>>538316668
Here's a tutorial: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9s6R8Gp2Is&ab_channel=MrBob

in case he missed it before the thread got yeeted

>>538296393
Zamasu is kinda twinky, ain't he?
honestly I used Z Goku as a reference for Black, because Goku (and Black) are really twiggy and lame looking in Super

>>538313829
Broly's asspull power is at least excused because he's fucking Broly, his whole appeal is his absurdly huge power and he's the LSS

gokubros...

>Sparking Zero finally has their own PedroTX tier remodeler
>he even makes sure the expressions sync well with the new model
yay

>>538317865
RIP

>>538318229
Why is he so obsessed with Gohan?

>>538318229
which one is the new one

brolybros... we lost a a gurl

>>538319401
Just like Z Broly loses to Kale

>>538317150
That explains it, Black was even slimmed down compared to Goku.

>>538319663
lol nope

>>538317150
It's okay, don't feel too constrained by being on-model. It's your interpetation, you can mix and match.

>>538320761
Goku should be cool, even when it isn't actually Goku.

18 got brutal with Pan at the end

>>538321489
Yet another 'Kill Pan to motivate Gohan' moment.

>>538322209
It's called flexing

>Vegeta reached the finals
>Jobbed
>Lost to 18 again

>>538322902
Those tournaments are really lore accurate so far

>>538323090
it's a coincidence

Casual reminder that the Dragon Ball game China made (despite flopping) was still the first Dragon Ball game in like 8 years (and the last for like 7 years) to *start off* with early Dragon Ball and it made its way to Cell Saga before closing.

What does this tell you?

>>538323613
>What does this tell you?
That Chinese game publishers have bigger balls than their Japanese counterparts and also that the next DB game needs to be made by them, hopefully with higher quality production

>>538323613
>What does this tell you?
Nothing about the gameplay

>>538323613
>What does this tell you?
It makes me wonder how a game about early Dragon Ball would do. Would it make as much money as a normal DB game?

Whenever the gachas have early DB banners during big celebrations people froth at the mouth at the thought of other players wanting something else, and it makes me wonder, is this just posturing to make themselves look better, like "real fans"? Because you would think with how often this happens, there'd be a Bandai exec and/or a studio that would try their luck and greenlight an early DB game

>>538324447
generic low budget 2010s ARPG
So like DBO but slightly better, or worse depending on what you're into
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uchrgF_b9AY

The mischief is now switch 2 coded! finally found one!

>>538326239
Based, congrats!

>>538315140
>>538315247
Topics here will occasionally have all of their posts purged when they archive, probably to save on server space. You can still view everything in a 3rd party archive
https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/537931605/

The FighterZ news turned out to be a flop.

If we really are getting nothing at all next year then I hope we at least find out early, I can't imagine waiting until April of next year only for them to make this panel about something that could have been announced on the official site or a tweet like a DVD set.

Zamoku

>>538332746
Looks neat

>>538327224
The sparking zero trailer being delayed indefinitely, the xenoverse 2 future saga chapter 3 having absolutely no futherr news after the tease and the daima pack being extremely bare bones to the point they don't even have english dubbing tells me the writings on the wall that shueisha is planning on starving this franchise out while they duke it out with bird studio or rather starve them of their ability to keep legislation going, Shueisha is this massive corporation, bird studio is basically Toriyama's shell company and none of his family members have any passion for the series outside of it being a thing their father,husband did to keep them taken care of, yeah Sasuke worked on super hero with him but as far as we know Toriyama's son has no plans to entire the field of manga, anime or even entertainment in general he's probably a salary man

Honestly, look at how Dragon Quest is doing, they lost Toriyama and their iconic composer in the same year to the reaper and the franchise has been stagnate ever since the 1 to 3 remake came out and people didn't care, 12 is vaporware at this point and there's been no talk of spin offs, further games or even trying to keep the franchise going.

>>538333021
>Goku/Vegeta snipe Zamasu's potara before he and Goku Black can use them
>out of sheer desperation they do a mortal fusion technique Goku Black/Zamasu learnt about during his travels across the universe slaughtering mortals

>>538333205
Oh yeah I forgot about Sparking Zero. A little over a week until we hit mid July.

Capsule Corp Tokyo is credited in SZ though, AFAIK it's the only game that has them in the credits, so it's weird that they're sandbagging. Maybe the last DLC did bad so they're bringing in some surprises, like a story or maps.

>>538333205
>tells me the writings on the wall that shueisha is planning on starving this franchise out while they duke it out with bird studio or rather starve them of their ability to keep legislation going
Does Shueisha have that much power? Shouldn't Namco be the ones who decide what games to make without their interference, as long as they use the right characters and forms?

>>538334143
>Sparking Zero.
What are you guys mostly playing? is SZ really dead now?

>>538333205
>vaporware
I forgot that existed until you mentioned it.
https://youtu.be/KpttA6zUGzQ?si=E4HuZ754CBwFEjD-
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GyNpG8E9PCE
Semi related but I like ambient noise videos and this series has a bunch.
>>538334143
>Having any hope for sparking zero
Kek. Insane how even the brainless hype mob started regarding that game as a waste of money.

>>538334681
I don't play Online mode in any anime game I play so I'd have no idea, but I don't intend on buying the game until I find out what the plans are for it after this last Daima DLC.

>>538334703
>?si=
Anon...

When exactly this whole ship of Goku and Videl start? It doesn't look like a ship that's taken seriously, but lately I'm seeing Goku plapping her ass on occasion. Did one artist have that ship and a few others picked up?

>>538334681
right now, Tenchu and NCAA Football

>>538335046
Ehh what about it?

>all the gacha games dropped Daima and went back to cashing-in on GT characters
So this is more confirmation Daima flopped, huh? DBL tried Daima SSJ4 Goku, it wasn't a hit, so they went back to the classics because they actually draw money. Dokkan didn't even bother trying – they just went straight back to Gogeta and dropped one of the most beautiful units in either mobile game. I LIKE THAT! THAT'S WHAT I LIKE TO SEE!

>>538336465
>right now, Tenchu and NCAA Football
i can tell you hella black

>>538336775
college football is for whites. the NFL is the negro league.
and what black dude plays Tenchu?

>>538336406
>When exactly this whole ship of Goku and Videl start?
I don't know, I just saw a few doujins with them that were good and now I like it.
The most convincing theory I heard is it's a 'turnabout is fair play' reaction to all the Gohan fucking Chichi stuff.

>>538336710
It isn't really fair because of how ugly Daima SS4 is. Don't fix what isn't broken kek.

>>538318229
hurray! only 181 character models to go!

>>538323613
that they probably would've made it further than Cell if they hadn't wasted everyone's time with OG. LOL

>>538334483
It's the retarded doomposter, don't mind him.
And no, Shueisha doesn't have that power, once they give the license, Namco can do whatever the fuck they want.

>>538337035
Why is he so mad at the fact everyone loves DB games and that the franchise is literally making billions?
He's even spamming right now.

>>538337003
>wasted everyone's time with OG.
Dragon Ball really does start at the 21st Tenkaichi Budokai. Skip Pilaf and Red Ribbon.

Bait used to be believable.

>>538336536
That part of the link is an identifier, it associates the link with your account so they can know who shared the link. It's another corporate way of getting data at the cost of privacy.

>>538337361
I shared the link from incognito. Still really gay. Can anyone here get my account from the link?

>>538337216
/dbs/ refugees in general ruined their own threads, got kicked out of /a/ and seem to have taken offense that our general wasn't pure seething and incoherent screeching.
Just post actually funny japanese shitpost and they usually disperse like a crowd of cockroaches exposed to light.

Sad RTH dude.

>>538337518
>Can anyone here get my account from the link?
No, youtube will just know that whoever comes from that link came 'thanks' to you.
Also the average /dbg/ poster is tech illiterate.

>>538336908
>The most convincing theory I heard is it's a 'turnabout is fair play' reaction to all the Gohan fucking Chichi stuff.
Yeah, I've heard this theory, and it does make sense.

I would also assume Videl being a martial artist tomboy is another reason, but that's only if the ship exists for more than just horny.

>>538336879
>and what black dude plays Tenchu?

>>538336908
I've seen Goku x Videl in the background for a bit now. Goku x Videl works about the same as Goku x Chichi which is good for a non official pairing.
Chichi and Videl are more or less the same btw.

>>538337913
mirin

>>538337839
Do DB fans even really do any shipping outside horny stuff? The only one I really know that's just not a relationship from canon is Goku x Vegeta.

>>538337518
>I shared the link from incognito.
If you're logged in, it doesn't matter.

>Can anyone here get my account from the link?
It's not other people getting your account, it's youtube tracking down that you shared the link, and others seeing the video from the link you shared.

>>538337913
shieeeeet

>>538336946
yep. turning Goku into a red rocket undermines a lot of the strengths of original SSJ4. namely, that characters still had unique eye and hair color combinations which produced organic visual diversity. now, if you slap all the Daima 4's in a row, they all look the fuckin' same. even the Heroes artists knew better, because Limit Breaker Super Saiyan 4 retains their unique eye color, even if it gives them all glowy red hair.

>>538338085
>Chichi and Videl are more or less the same btw.
Videl is more of a city girl and into martial arts tho.

>>538338173
I ship Goten and Caulifla

>>538338289
>*downgrades your look*

>>538338173
Most of the Goten and Trunks ships are non horny. Since Goku and Videl are both married it's horniness.

>>538338408
I meant beyond individuals liking specific relationship on their own. Like do they have communities, discord, fanart, fanfics and all that stuff just for shipping?

Wow, one anon is very upset that Daima's SSJ4 is actually good and canon.
GT fags are such a lonely kind.

>>538338289
my FUARKING heroes...

>>538338173
>Do DB fans even really do any shipping outside horny stuff?
I'm not sure, maybe only official ships? I remember Goku/Caulifla having some popularity because she's a fighter like Goku, but I'm not sure how many wrote it/drew it as a "serious" ship.

>>538338561
>Most of the Goten and Trunks ships are non horny.
As long as their kid versions aren't included.

>>538338289
Yeah I did appreciate the different colors. Gogeta having the swapped hair and fur colors gave him a sense of mystery. It added to his already incredible "aura" as the kids call it.
Daima SS4 spits all over that and gives them a paint bucket blood red everywhere. Not even to mention the weird way the fur looks on the chest. And the arm tumor arms...
>>538338535
How horrendous.

>Most of the Goten and Trunks ships are non horny.
The shitposting/shipping war while the manga was coming out was fun. I miss the classmates. I hope when the manga gets animated they'll get the fanart they deserve.

>>538338619
hell no, nigga. this franchise barely has enough active women at any given point to pair anyone off. there's nothing particularly charming or endearing about any of the DBS romance dynamics, either. how are you supposed to swoon over the Goku & Chi-Chi ship if he never kisses her? Vegeta's a tsundere fucking house husband. Android 18 and Krillin are pretty cool. Caulifla and Kale are pretty cool. Broly and Cheelai are pretty cool. that's it. Goten and Trunks haven't interacted with anyone on-screen but their parents or each other for like 30 years. Yamcha and Tien have effectively been written out of the story, and the Trunks and Mai stuff is super forced. lol

>>538338876
>As long as their kid versions aren't included.
Kid Goten and Trunks are exclusively straight shota hentai.

>>538339087
Imagine Chi-Chi's face when Goten brings this home.

>>538339445
>One son married a rich lady
>One son is dating a black woman
You win some, you lose some...

>>538339087
>The shitposting/shipping war while the manga was coming out was fun.
There were none here because nobody cares about the manga.
> I miss the classmates
I hope we never hear from them or anything from Toyotaro's version ever.

>>538339445
>I'm such a happy mother!

If Goku was in DnD, he'd be an illithid, no? They are the closest to Saiyans I can think of.

>>538339445
Chichi would support it and spoil her grandchildren!

>>538324582
>is this just posturing to make themselves look better, like "real fans"? Because you would think with how often this happens, there'd be a Bandai exec and/or a studio that would try their luck and greenlight an early DB game
Sounds like a loud minority. That isn't to say that OG isn't popular, but its fans or "fans" overrate how popular it is, specially in comparison with Z.

It's even weirder when its "fans" talk about OG things that frankly aren't true, such as "Remember when Yamcha was relevant in OG?", even though Yamcha never amounted to much. I remember TFS' season 1 having Bulma talk about OG events like she and the others were there to help out to deal with Red Ribbon, when factually Goku crushed it by himself.

>I remember TFS
Run.

>>538340707
I used to be a fan of it. I was young and had shit taste. Nowadays I find it unbelievable I ever thought it was that good, specially season 1.

>>538340505
Kakarot sold less units than Xenoverse and Sparking because it doesn't feature Super. Shueisha and Toei have inadvertently trained their audience to care more about and pop more for gacha banner worthy characters and events. most fans aren't buying Kakarot to fight Dr. Gero after Goku returns from Namek, they're buying Sparking to fight Super Broly as Blue Gogeta.

plus, if we're being completely honest, MOST of the memorable OG fights take place in the exact same location, the World Tournament stage, and i think people would get bored of that pretty fast. the lack of map variety is one of the most commonly cited critiques about Sparking.

>>538341282
I remember when I was watching the series and I was too impatient to wait a week to see the next episode so I watched ahead via TFS a few times.

>>538338858
>Multiverse missed out on the obvious Vegito v Gogeta showdown

>>538340707
>there's a longrunning drama over takahata being a sexpest
>the one guy who actually tried to do something outside of TFS shit
it's almost kinda sad

>>538339445
>rural Asian woman
imagine the slurs

>>538341690
>You now remember there are black women who get turned on by being called a racial slur

>>538324582
they've made several, and no they don't perform well (despite being pretty good). Advanced Adventure, DB Origins, and Revenge of King Piccolo were all attempts to revive the kid saga fanbase.

Most OG DB games sold very well, just like most Z games, the main difference is most OG games from when OG was airing never got an international release

>>538341849
well all the ape related ones are off the table
that's THEIR word

PANTS: SHAT
BINGO: DANCED
GOKU'S WIFE: KISSED

IT'S JOBBER TIME!

>>538339948
Goku would basically be a male version of Gith. Destroying the Illithid Empire that enslaved her race is kinda like Goku beating Freeza, especially since Githyanki and Saiyans are both evil despite their enslavement.

>>538342443
KBC Bejitard really does this

>>538341371
>Shueisha and Toei have inadvertently trained their audience to care more about and pop more for gacha banner worthy characters and events.
It's not just that, fans also want to play with the most recent thing ASAP, and that's normal among fanbases. It's why Naruto had games where their story take place during the Ninja War, before the war ended in the manga. All so players can play as new characters like Madara early.

>plus, if we're being completely honest, MOST of the memorable OG fights take place in the exact same location, the World Tournament stage, and i think people would get bored of that pretty fast. the lack of map variety is one of the most commonly cited critiques about Sparking.
Yeah, the most popular non-WT fights are Grandpa Gohan and King Piccolo, and Grandpa Gohan's takes place in another tournament... There's also Tao Pai Pai who's an odd case, he's a popular enough character, but his fights kinda suck.

>>538342906
Goku utterly demolishing the Red Ribbon base is also up there. but that's not really a fight, unless you count him smashing General Black's mecha suit

>>538342906
General Blue was fun.

>>538339948
Protector Aasimar
>Darkvision so he can sense foes without his eyes
>can radiate light and glow
>knows Healing Hands for Senzu Beans
>has some innate damage resistance

then you take Monk 1, Divine Soul Sorcerer 19.
Monk is self-explanatory, Sorcerer is all your ki attacks. yes you could play Sun Soul Monk 20, but the Sorcerer build will out Spirit Bomb you EVERY time.

Sacred Flame is your ki blast, Guiding Bolt is your first big ki attack.
at Level 3, you get the DS Sorcerer's Radiant Soul ability, which gives you the ability to fly and add your level in Radiant damage to one of your attacks per turn. this can be any sort of attack; melee, unarmed, or spell. this is KINDA your Super Saiyan, but we'll get a better form later.

at Level 4 you get Metamagic (namely Quickened and Empower), and you learn Misty Step, which is your first Instant Transmission. when we learn Dimension Door later at Level 7, we can grab a friend by the shoulder to bring along.

at Level 5 you learn Haste, which is your Kaioken. you become faster and can attack more often, but when the duration is up, you can't act for one turn.

at Level 9, you learn Dawn, which creates a giant vertical beam of Radiant energy and deals a bunch of damage. that's the move Gogeta does to Broly in the movie, with the big pillar of blue light. remember, you can use your action to attack – then Quicken Spell to cast Dawn with your Swift Action in the same turn. after the initial blast, the pillar continues radiating for one minute.

at 10th level you learn Death Ward, which lasts for 8 hours and let's you miraculously survive lethal damage with 1HP one time per casting. Goku does this a lot. lol

at Level 11 we learn Sunbeam, that's our Kamehameha.
at 14th level, Divine Sorcerer's gain permanent fly speed that you can enhance further with Haste.

>>538343312
Goku was a musou protagonist during that, and that's surprisingly rare in DB.

>>538343378
He was, but I don't remember seeing his fight among popular ones. Thinking of it, there was a poll like last year of every Goku fight, I wonder how high Blue was...

>>538344613
Sounds like a good build but is Goku really the type to take a dip?
Goku with metagmagic sounds like a crazy combo, it's the kind of stuff Goku is gonna combo in the most bullshit ways.

>>538344613
at 18th level we learn Sunburst, that's our Genki Dama. giant sphere of Radiant energy that deals megatons of damage. i think we can hurl two of them per turn with Quickened Spell.

at Level 19, we learn Foresight, and this will sort of be our Super Saiyan Blue or Ultra Instinct. it gives you advantages on basically all your rolls (means you get to roll twice and take the best result) and you cannot be surprised or caught flatfooted. it's not a Concentration spell, either, so you can stack it with Haste.

i forgot that earlier we could also have learned Polymorph if we wanted to become a Giant Ape.

here's the video i used to write this. i really fucked with this guy's channel when i was in College making D&D builds while listening to lectures. lol
if you don't like this build, he's also done ones for Vegeta and Trunks you might be more interested in.

https://youtu.be/iicGaL_6Pfs?si=qNPlQAgmgKe0pDzF

>>538345310
I knew that build reminded me of something, I watched that video before

>>538344613
I was asking more from a story perspective but cool stuff.

>>538344613
I think Kid Goku could work as an Hexblade Warlock, just make his pact weapon a special staff that can extend.

>>538336908
Videl as a ntr couple works because videl being a tomboy means its in her dna to fuck and cheat and goku being a himbo causing her to make the first move is a fun twist

>>538344613
i forgot that Haste can also be interpreted as "temporarily going beyond your limits, with some recoil" if you don't wanna think of it as Kaioken.

>>538345225
he does seem very open to training different disciplines under different teachers. he started learning from Roshi, but he dipped into Korrin, Kami, and Whis. :bigthink::bigthink: lol

>>538345404
ayyy! i wondered if anybody here would recognize that. i could've sworn the build included Tenser's Transformation, but i forgot that the big catch with Tenser's is that you can't cast any spells while using it. Haste + Foresight ends up being stronger because you can still cast with both of them up.

your brain is porn-rotted

>>538346147
>>538344613
i also forgot Haste adds +2 to your AC and gives you advantages on Dex saves, so it has defensive benefits.

>>538346147
>he does seem very open to training different disciplines under different teachers.
True, that make sense

Eh?
Chapter was a big nothing.

>>538346843
That's After for a while now. Piccolo isn't even defeated for good since that last page has one of the mirrors shooting an SBC to snipe Goku.

>>538336406
I think it started with one of Galaspek's works

>>538347789
Oh, and I just found two on Kemono from Gokhan.Art that has been uploaded to sadpanda yet

>>538347789
I read that one, it's a good one

>>538348232
Nevermind, they are on Sadpanda

>>538347789
Was this before Thewritefiction's Goku x Videl?
https://kemono.cr/patreon/user/9906814/post/40801833
2021

>>538347789
I can hear their voices

>>538349190
That one is so kino another dude did a redraw of the same plot

>>538347789
Goku's bicep in that first panel is so big. Bigger than his head even.

Videl uses a nice shirt later.

>>538347789
>Did Ox King train you too?
KEK

>>538337003
So far he's done
>MUI Goku
>UI Goku
>LSS DBZ Broly
>Base, Super Saiyan and Super Saiyan 2 adult Gohan
>End DBZ Vegeta
>Super Vegeta
>Mid Vegeta
>Mid SS Goku
>Base, SS, SSB DBS Gogeta
>Goku Black and Rose
He had a vote and for whatever reason the fags that voted decided on another Gohan (Ultimate Gohan).

>>538349190
If we go by the dates posted on sadpanda, Thewritefiction's came first. FunsexyDB did make a short story in 2015 about a drunk Goku mixing up Videl for Chi-Chi and fucking her, and Gokhan's is very obviously inspired by it since it has a drunk Goku fucking Videl too.

>>538351264
Are all of those decided by voting? It would explain why only saiyans got new models.

>He had a vote and for whatever reason the fags that voted decided on another Gohan (Ultimate Gohan).
Ultimate Gohan is rather popular... I guess the next Gohan model will be SS2 Cell Games Gohan.

>>538351638
I now kinda wish we saw Goku do some Drunken Fist stuff

>>538353297
At least we got the mad dog and mad monkey styles.

I'm thinking of archiving a bunch of db doujinshi lewd and non lewd.
>>538349319
Send here.

>>538353987
Archiving is always good

>>538353987
https://exhentai.org/g/2688598/d92c90310a/

>>538354361
Oh wow TWF got mogged hard

>>538355114
Idk there are some panels twf did way better in the expression department

>>538355446
I don't like super exaggerated expressions and genitalia. The lineart is nice and gives much needed clarity.

>>538355446
I burst out laughing when I saw this panel. Suddenly kid Goku's face! In adult Goku's body!

Posts in sadpanda point out the other guy traced, which explains why some pages look off. Young Jijii had the same problems.

I found an all in one computer at a garage sale the other day and Sparking Zero actually works on it. I was thinking of creating a modpack for this thread we could all work on or something.

>>538358990
Sound cool. Also damn, a garage sale that can run Sparking 0? That's pretty crazy.
Only mod I really know is the Pokemon one.

>>538359210
It was only $20 too! It runs Sparking 0 on the lowest settings with no lag or jittering during battle.
I was hoping the modpack could be more or a community things for us. I've been following along with the scene and there's a tool that can be used to export modpacks.
https://gamebanana.com/tools/20617
>Modpack Creation and Export: With Zero Mod Manager, you can now create your own modpacks with your favorite mod collections and export them to share with your friends or community. This feature was designed for content creators.

>>538360725
>I was hoping the modpack could be more or a community things for us.
Why not, we already made a bunch of /dbg/ custom scenarios for Sparking 0

>>538360725
>>538361191
Maybe a pastebin to include in the next OPs? It can be a little difficult since OP is near the character limit, but should still be possible.

>>538361854
We can probably re-organize the OP to have all the infos with less text, no?

>>538362084
Oh sure, I just don't wanna risk removing something that should've be removed.

>Daima DLC Part 1 will release on July 17th 2025
This part from it can be removed though, DLC is already out.

>DRAGON BALL Z: KAKAROT -DAIMA- Adventure Through the Demon Realm Part 1 Launch Trailer
And this one could be shortened. Considering how short pastebin links are, character limit wouldn't be an issue.

>>538362383
>removing something that should've be removed.
that shouldn't be removed*

>>538361854
I think plenty of stuff can be reformatted or erased from the OP, the "Latest" section doesn't really need to spell out things that are in the youtube video title when the youtube video is linked, and some of these "latest" stuff is already pretty old. Super Divers section is too long, which isn't warranted now that it's been out for so long, you don't have to perpetually remind people Heroes is over, XV2 news really doesn't need to mention a DLC that doesn't even have a release date, and Kakarot doesn't need to mention a DLC that has been released months ago and is already in the latest section.

Thoughts on Broly's new dub voice?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJG0C_4Lzc8
https://youtu.be/CL04EmJYSWo?t=5

>>538363402
>dub
>>>/co/

>>538360725
congratulations, bro. that's a signficant come up. i hope you enjoy the PC and that it lasts as long as you need it to.

>>538363402
Did Broly really need a new VA?

>>538339087
>when the manga gets animated

>>538364769
Given time infinity I doubt they'll stay unanimated forever. Whether official or fan, it will get done someday.

>>538339087
>when the manga gets animated
i could think of few worse fates for DB than for them to just pick back up where they left off and keep animating the same slop story.

>>538351264
i was kinda hating earlier, but that is pretty cool. this Broly is definitely an improvement, even if he's a little smaller.

>>538363840
Vic is never getting work again so

>>538369415
Moro was better than most of super except the ToP. Unless someone really talented leads dragon ball, it's just going to be average like that.

>>538371071
but the Tournament of Power was the only half decent part of Super. the only other arcs were poorly animated retreads of the movies, and the disastrous Goku Black arc where two 10/10 villains are trapped in a 3/10 narrative, animated at about the same quality level as an above average SDBH episode. and MORO is a also a 10/10 villain trapped in a 3/10 narrative. the only reason you think it's better than the Black arc is because more of the Z Fighters are involved and it's the first arc in the whole series with gore. but you know they're not gonna animate the gore, so what do you even really wanna see? Gohan get beat the fuck up by Moro? lol

>>538371734
Moro is absolutely not a 10/10 villain, he's 5/10 average at his absolute best. Like everything Tracertaro makes he's massively derivative of shit we've already seen before. He really feels like a generic Z movie villain like Slug or Bojack, but in a plot that's stretched out over multiple years

>>538371734
>and MORO is a also a 10/10 villain trapped in a 3/10 narrative.
With how much of a Z villain derivative he is, I wouldn't call him even a 6/10 villain. Specially by the end when he basically became Cell with horns.

>>538298904 (OP)
Crazy that if Wheelo had just been a little more patient (and emailed Gero for some tips) he probably could've put his big ass brain in Nappa's Oozaru body. Assuming he could reanimate his corpse and make him an android.

>>538374151
I imagine you need an intact body for that kind of stuff

Kino is underway. Holy fuark there are a lot of issues all the time. Half of the mods I download don't work. I had to fuck with the mod loader dependency thing.
>>538361191
All of those should be put in a pastebin. Someone compiled them all a while back.

>>538373920
>>538374132
i should've elaborated more. Moro starts off as a 10/10 villain, but because of narrative mistakes, he becomes a 6/10 villain. that early panel where he "sees" Goku while he's trying to sense his energy was peak villain aura. i feel similarly about Fused Zamasu. the second both 10/10 villains of that arc got turned into a single one-note character, Zamasu also dropped to being a 6/10 villain.

>>538374360
>my whole bit falls apart because I forgot for a moment that Vegeta vaporized Nappa
Fuck. You're right.

>>538363402
z broly is such a miscast with JYB. They really couldn't get someone better??? JYB is at his best when he's voicing people like Adachi or Ichigo. Broly was not the character in his range.

HOW is Dragon Ball KAKAROT like the only game without BROLY in it. It's named friggin' KAKAROT!

>>538375432
canon autism i suppose. Theres no movie villains in it.

>>538374421
Merged Zamasu was still good though, especially when he goes full final boss JRPG villain. Just not as good as Black and Zamasu separately, he's like a 7.5/10

>>538376275
i actually agree with that take, but isn't he only like that for an episode or two before he goes all Bio Broly and starts melting?

Can't wait for gekishin to release so we can transition into a proper MOBA general

>>538376725
Yea, helps that he didn't outstay his welcome too and made a pretty big impression in that time. He has a regal refined form, a deranged bersersker form and an ethereal bodiless form where he consumes the fucking universe. You can't deny he was a memorable villain at the least. And he's got his own nippon rap https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vhk9IBsbGLI

>>538376725
It's the same problem as Baby. Baby turning into an Oozaru and Zamasu becoming ugly are both really good thematically (Baby becoming what he sook to destroy and Zamasu becoming ugly) but they look so much worse.

We excited for Gekishin Squadra?

>>538380448
Yeah, I had fun during the playtests.

>>538378432
Were the lyrics for this rap ever translated? I figured out most of the first half ages ago before I left it in a word doc and forgot about it

ポタラ Potara (Potara)
ポタラ Potara (Potara)
使った ra Tsukatta ra (I used it)
合体最強 Gattai saikyō (Strongest combined)

ザマス Zamas and ゴクウ ブラック Goku Black

高い気位界王神の見習い Takai kigurai kaiōshin no minarai (Apprentice of a supreme Kaioshin)

人高嫌い 過去現在未来
Ningen-girai kako genzai mirai (Hates mortals past, present and future)

人間0計画 Ningen zero keikaku (zero mortals plan)

ポタラ Potara (Potara)
ポタラ Potara (Potara)
使った ra Tsukatta ra (I used it)
合体最強 Gattai saikyō (Strongest combined)

見た目を捨てた ra Mitame o suteta ra (I gave up my appearance)

むやみやたら Muyami yatara (Unnecessary)

強いキヤラ Tsuyoi kyara (To become stronger)

不死身 だから Fujimidakara (Because I'm immortal)

切られたら Kira retara (If it gets cut)

増えるから Fuerukara (It will increase)

宇宙 そのもの Uchū sonomono (The universe itself)

無限ザマス Mugen Zamasu (Is Infinite Zamasu)

無限に増えて Mugen ni fuete (Increasing infinitely)

人間滅ぼす Ningen horobosu (Destroying all mortals)

神 Kami (God)

>>538380561
Neat, I missed out on the betas but a moba DB has potential

>>538380820
I hope it won't be too greedy once actually released

>>538376250
I don't think so, there's are noncanon inclusions in the story. It's probably that they just left out the movies as potential DLCs (even if in the end they opted to do something else, but they obviously never planned Daima when the game was created).

>>538381603
Looking at how many iconic characters are missing from the base roster, they're gonna milk the hell out of this game.

lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKdW-kqKlIw

>>538381784
Assuming they plan to support the game for a long time it would be beyond stupid to put all the big characters front and center from the beginning. There's a difference between being greedy and being pragmatic.
This isn't a game like Sparking Zero, this is a game that presumably the devs will keep working on for years and years to come.

>>538381603
>Toshi is producer
Well the game was fun while it lasted. I give it till 2nd anniversary before he destroys it

>>538381789
Kek

>>538382439
>that presumably the devs will keep working on for years and years to come.
Bleak...
These devs deserve handling a console game. Put Spike instead on P2W crap.
Why is this world like that.

>>538380448
It was pretty fun. I played it to the very last minute.

>>538385982
I didn't get the impression that the game was p2w from the beta. The things you buy with money are cosmetics (fucking gacha) but you can't power up the characters themselves in any way with money.

>>538389102
Yeah the gacha rates for some of the cosmetics are brutal. Even with the free cash they gave out it took a couple of tries to get the ones I wanted from the gacha. I definitely won't be spending money trying to get them.

>>538390034
I genuinely think this shit is just counterproductive for a game like this. I would happily just buy all the Frieza cosmetics with money if they just let me but I'm not going through the gacha. Is the whale money really compensating missing out on people like me?

>>538378845
godlike take, i completely agree.

>>538380448
after the Perfect Cell and Kale trailers, i've come around and will give it a shot. my expectations are pretty low though since there's no gold or item progression.

>>538390034
wait you have to ROLL for costumes? you can't just buy exactly what you want from a shop with RP?

>>538392457
That was what it was like in the network test. There were rare and ultra rare cosmetics/animations in two different tiers of gacha, the free ones and the premium ones.

I think there was also a cash shop where cosmetics also rotate in and out. I remember there being unique pity cosmetics you get from getting currency from duplicates.

>>538392457
There were some things you could buy but others you have to roll for

>>538338173
I've read ones that've mixed horniness with sincere shipping, often to very strange results. There's one author (that HAS to be a woman) who wrote these slow burn/kidnapping/pedo Goku fics that have him shipped with Bulla and Pan. I remember their Bulla fic being oddly romantic in a fucked up, stockholm syndrome kinda way. Their Goku was just weird. He had an innocence to him still, even though he was planning and carrying out these horrible things.

>>538338762
>crying about GT out of absolutely nowhere
>canonfaggotry
Predictable.

Daima clearly flopped and it's really funny some desperate people pretend it didn't

>>538393898
Why the fuck did Toriyama draw these creepy ass pics of Goku like this? I get the impression that towards the end of the manga, he was sick of DB and how much people loved Goku all the time even though he tried to portray him with dubious morality and selfish tendencies and didn't like him being seen as a hero, so he just thought, "Fuck it, I bet I can draw Goku looking like a creepy fuck pedo and these people will still love him"

>>538395383
>Creepy
?
It's just Goku holding out a hand and asking you to come closer
Nothing ominous about it

>>538393898
>Their Goku was just weird. He had an innocence to him still, even though he was planning and carrying out these horrible things.
How?!

>NOOOOOOOOO YOU DONT GET IT IT FLOPPED IT FLOPPED SO MUCH THEY SHILL IT IN ALMOST EVERY GAME
What causes a man to become this?

>>538397284
That is indeed the most tragic thing about this whole thing: now we have to go through the contractual releases of every on-going DB game having to release failed, flopped DLCs of a flopped show, because they signed on it thinking it would be profitable.

At least Gekishin is simply giving out Daima Goku for free to every player, instead of pretending anyone would want to buy this.

>Gekishin actually uses the normal and beloved first form Frieza design instead of that bobblehead shit from Sparking Zero
Thank fucking GOD

>>538393898
Women shouldn't be allowed access to the internet without a male guardian supervising.

https://youtu.be/BAYgY_tO-iE
Vegeta wonned the argument btw

OREO
OREO
OREO EE OO REE

>>538397259
It's honestly hard to describe. He's somehow a selfish rapist while also being the gentle and casual Goku everyone knows and loves. Even when he reveals his true colors, he still acts like a simple, carefree guy. Like, yeah, he's gonna rape you, but can you not scream, attack and curse at him while he does. Chi-Chi says that kinda language and behavior is bad, and if you and him are gonna be together, then you really should try and make an effort to get along, y'know. Anyway, here's a list of locations that're safe for you to go. He doesn't wanna take away your freedom per say, but if the other Z-Fighters try and take you away from him, that'd be bad. You need to go where he can protect you, because his friends just don't get it yet, but he's strong enough to overpower them without hurting them, so you'll just have to live like this until everyone's accepted how things are now.

He's sorta like that. The description to the sequel of their Bulla's fic, set after Goku put his plan into motion, sums it his dynamic with whatever girl he's being paired up with pretty well. "It was so twisted. He was twisted. Sometimes I was his daughter. Other days, I played the role of the hostage. But every horrible, gruesome night, I became a woman."

>>538405101
this is every woman's fantasy, by the way

>>538405404
No we don't.

>>538405747
usoda
I know what books you read, you just wished Daddy lovingly molested you when you were 8

>>538405747
>we

>>538342443
Vegeta should be reddish like it's Super/GT counterpart forms

>>538346843
>After

>>538363402
Deadweight

>playing Tenkaichi 4, excited for the changes and additions
>discover they didn't add some of the lesser but still-important fights like Vegeta vs Ape Gohan, or Vegeta vs Zarbon/Dodoria, or Trunks vs Mecha Frieza, or Piccolo vs Imperfect Cell, or Ultimate Gohan vs Buutenks
is there any mod that does add all the major fights?

>>538407685
something about that 21 looks off to me...

Damn they are actually doing stuff Heroes never covered too
https://x.com/DB_SUPERDIVERS/status/1964961959167868982

>>538351264
>>538318229
I thought the vanilla models were kind of rough looking, but just like with Xenoverse, propping them up with better versions really highlights all the flaws. It's crazy.

>>538405101
>Even when he reveals his true colors, he still acts like a simple, carefree guy. Like, yeah, he's gonna rape you, but can you not scream, attack and curse at him while he does. Chi-Chi says that kinda language and behavior is bad, and if you and him are gonna be together, then you really should try and make an effort to get along, y'know.
Kek. That sounds funny.

I'm surprised a fic like that was posted on fanfiction.net though, they at times get bitchy about porn. I also see she wrote a few Goku/Videl fics before going Pedoku.

>>538410380
Heroes didn't cover this? But they made a SS1 Kaioken Xeno Vegetto...

>>538363402
>dub
No thanks I'm not israeli

>>538411172
Nope. And like you said, it was SS (Kaioken), not Super Kaioken.
They also never included grade 2 SS Goku

>>538410947
ff.net only takes down smut when the copyright owner threatens to sue. most notably with Archie comics.

Has Super Trunks even be in any game ever, other than Budokai 1? The REAL Super Trunks, the Trunks equivalent to Super Vegeta aka SS Grade 2 Trunks, not SS Grade 3 Trunks

>>538412123
burst limit kinda does though i think they treat it like it's grade 3 despite not being massively buff

>>538408661
No pants?

>>538410380
>Damn they are actually doing stuff Heroes never covered too
Well there isn't much.
EoS by 5 years confirmed

>>538410947
FFN is full of porn. The owners nuked a bunch of NSFW in 2002 and 2012, but the site's been on autopilot since the mid-2010s, so there's no one around to enforce their rules. A militant group of wannabe jannies called Critics United used to patrol the site for them, reporting any and all rule breakers, but they pretty much died out around 2020. Two of them seem to be keeping up the grind, but their influence has lessened.

>>538410947
Link to the videl x goku ones?

>>538363402
Anybody else think Bryce Papenbrook should have been dub broly?

He's the only dub actor I can think of that could nail Bin's screams
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4oKRJN0YLhE&t=15s
https://youtu.be/qEo-n6Gz01E?t=128
There was also this scene in the current season of demon slayer where his character (Inosuke) had to move a boulder and I definitely would have put that scream up there if I could find it dubbed.

>>538373920
Epic youtube thumbnail kek

>>538411845
I see...

>>538414441
Oh yeah, from a few years back to now, porn was allowed no problem, but she posted the Pedoku fic in 2013, which I think around that time it was still deleted, specially given what's going on in the story.

>>538414829
https://www.fanfiction.net/u/1803634/Malevolent-Reverie
It's last three fanfictions, at the bottom. From the descriptions, she had Darku from the start.

>>538394146
>>538394238
>Still mad he's inferior and non-canon.

>>538397284
Sheer desperation as shown in the reply here >>538397603
He had a retarded shit take given to him before Daima's release and has been having his mind torn apart by reality not conforming to it for months.

>>538415691
Right?

>>538414415
>From 'It's gonna EoS any day now!' to 'It's gonna only last half a decade!'
Lol. Lmao.
>>538393898
>>538405101
Sounds based

>>538418550
Obviously they won't give up on it that soon. Adding Time Breaker Bardock however already shows they're begging for their CHADroes Audience to come back and save the Super Sinking ship.

FUCK YOU KUNSHI YOU FUCKING CUNT DIE DIE DIE

>>538418946
/dbs/ is that way.

>>538418946
>Obviously they won't give up on it that soon
That's not what you were saying when it released and DB sure has fuck has 0 hesitation dropping a game when it doesn't sell fast, just look at DBO. THAT went EOS fast due to failing.

>>538333205
The 22nd Tenkaichi Budokai arc is the beginning of the best stretch of the story, which goes until the Freeza arc.

>I liked adventure more, but it seemed at the time a road manga just wasn’t what people wanted.
>Though I was reluctant to do it, the series’ popularity did indeed start to pick up around the Tenka’ichi Budōkai… And despite my reluctance, it still felt pretty good.

And after Freeza, he was pretty much phoning it in:

>Interviewer: How did you feel as you were drawing the final portions of the series?
>Toriyama: The Artificial Human and Cell story arc was pretty rough… I guess you could say I did all I could with Freeza, so I was burned out, and figured I couldn’t pull off a better battle than that. I thought, “Do I really have to keep going?” Even when Cell ended, it still didn’t feel like it could end. So before the Boo story arc began, I said “Once this next thing wraps up, I want to end it no matter what.” Because I thought there was no way for any stronger guys to pop up, or for Goku to get any stronger than he already was. So my starting point for the Boo arc was, “This is the end, so I’m going to draw whatever I want!” I always liked dumb gags, so I made things comical, with the Great Saiyaman and Gotenks and whatnot. It wasn’t until immediately before the final chapter that I thought up the ending. I needed something that would signal this truly was the end, so I jumped forward ten years… But I didn’t count on the series continuing in anime form, so I bet it was really rough on everyone over at the anime company. (laughs) When the kanzenban came out several years later, I added a bit more to the ending. I thought that somehow it just didn’t click. I wanted to make it more clear that Goku’s battles were over, and that a new generation was taking over.

Toriyama was drawing the manga chapters, supervising the anime, designing movie characters, etc

So what's the bet on the battle hour? Would be nice if we at least got an update about who owns what now.

>>538420775
Everyone start kneeling as Sasuke Toriyama descend a golden staircase and receive the Dragon Crown and succeed his dad as DB's owner and mangaka.

>>538420775
>latest news on Dragon Ball
That's like the only hope for it. It'll be slightly higher if Akio hypes it up given that he's been missing since Daima ended.

But Japanese suits are needlessly vague and they'll hype up anything. This panel could easily be a big fat waste of time, like most of Battle Hour usually is.

>>538420775
They aren't using the event to do a copyright diagram, come on. I think it's a tad bit too early for XV3 unless they speed up the DLCs for XV2. Probably just updates on existing games, maybe some DLC trailers.

>>538419224
We did have arcade owners complaining about it and talking about selling the cabinets, but I haven't heard of any further complaints in months, so Super Divers must be doing well now.

>>538422302
I guess it goes to show folding under headwinds might not always be the smartest business strategy.

>>538422302
>>538423932
Card arcades are always slow to start because big players need time to build up their collection and deck.

Hot take: Raging Blast 2 is better than Sparking Zero

>>538425454
Sparking 0 is just BT3 and RB2 mixed together with a bigger roster and better textures. I don't know what kind of autism you need to like one but not the other.

>>538426061
S0 is more like a Unity asset flip with some DBZ characters modded in, and an amateur attempt to recreate the game mechanics from Tenkaichi.
(I do like the flash step move they added in S0, when you hit A and X at the same time)

>>538426061
>Actual single player content
>Galaxy Mode which is better than the barebones "Story" mode in SZ
>Good roster for the time
>A lot of new characters
>Improved gameplay compared to its predecessors
>Includes the remake of Plan to Eradicate the Saiyans for free
>Netcode was decent for the time compared to the shit Spike did in SZ
>The best DB opening ever made
>Soulful OST (both versions)
>TAKE YOUR CHANCE BEAT IT NOW
Unironically the only problem with the game is the lack of GT characters and I'm sure that would've been fixed in a third game if RB2 didn't flop

If Goku was in DnD, he's probably be the monk equivalent of Elminster, where he somehow has the maxed out bonuses of multiple styles despite it not being possible.
I'm surprised DnD hasn't made an expy of him yet.

HAYA

>>538428830
Based

>>538428830
SNIFF

>>538429365
How the fuck do you always post art like 5 minutes after I saw them on twitter?

>>538429446
i'm a bot

>>538429446
I've been trying to think up a relevant post with this image for an hour before I gave up and just sent it randomly

>>538429802
It is frustrating when you want to send something but there's no good context in a conversation for it.

To bring back the balance to the franchise, we need to relegate women from fighting but instead add more old school fanservice.

Need more space conquering content

>>538435191
>comfy musou where you're an evil kakarot conquering planets

Errr....... Bandai Namco you only have 22 days to post a new Sparking Zero trailer

>>538439527
Delayed to 2026. The trailer will either pop up at Jump Festa or Battle Hour, where they will reveal a Daima storymode, maps, costumes, and 3 extra characters, including base gomah, Degusu and Anrinsu

What rule did any Dragon Ball villain break here?

I'm so cooked, chat. I look at art like this now and just go, "why isn't anyone blue? they can't fight like this."

July 2019*

>>538439527
You will NOT get a new trailer and you WILL enjoy it.

>>538440325
Degesu broke rule fucking #1
What a loser fruitman.

>>538425454
there is no universe in which i'm choosing to play a Dragon Ball game without any Super Saiyan 4 characters in it, over games that feature the sum total of all the lore. i don't think i even tried the free demo of that shit.

>>538420775
gacha announcements, maybe a DLC trailer for Kakarot, Sparking, Xenoverse, or Gekishin. that's about it. i'm hoping the rights dispute will last until One Piece ends so Oda can stop hogging the studio's animation budget.

>>538441093
>there is no universe in which i'm choosing to play a Dragon Ball game without any Super Saiyan 4 characters in it
Where were you in the PS3 gen? Because the only Dragon Ball game with GT characters at that time was Ultimate Tenkaichi

>>538441549
i was crying in a corner like a bitch

>>538441549
not him but i unironically completely skipped almost all of it. Like after BT3 the only DB games i played were the origins games on DS, infinite world and then basically nothing until XV1 came out

>>538441549
He was playing all of it because all GTfagging is just bullshit contrarianism.

>>538441549
I didn't play any Dragon Ball games between Tenkaichi 2 and Xenoverse. I was playing the Naruto Storm games and watching it week to week.

The CHAD FREEZA
>goes from Namek strength to Super Saiyan Blue tier with training and hard work (he did 100 push-ups)
The VIRGIN PICCOLO
>peaked against first form Cell then ran out of Namekians to absorb, so he wished for Shenron to make him Super Saiyan Blue tier
Piccolofrauds... how do we cope...?

>>538443347
That's your retarded headcanon lmao. I genuinely enjoy GT more than all of Super and all of Daima combined.

>>538426061
Then show me where I can customize the character attacks in Sparking Zero like I can in RB2.

>>538446186
Sure, buddy, you totally just responded to laugh and not because you felt called out.

>>538439527
Genuinely who cares about Sparking Zero, huge disappointment of a game

>>538447738
>Genuinely who cares about Sparking Zero
The overwhelming majority of people. It's a best seller on all platform it's on.

>>538446186
don't give him attention.

>>538446186
Why do you have shit taste? How do you genuinely enjoy Goku throwing ki blast at Super 17 like a retard for 3 episodes straight?

>>538447738
>Genuinely who cares about Sparking Zero
people who had realistic expectations of a Bamco anime game and knew it wasn't going to be *that* great without mods. the only place it fell short of my very reasonable expectations was the number of stages and alternate costumes, but fortunately, fans have already started putting the costume and accessory settings to better use than Bamco did. so it'll all probably work out in 2-5 years. that's about how long it took for fans to drag Xenoverse 2 over the finish line, kicking and screaming. lol

>>538448336
> How do you genuinely enjoy Goku throwing ki blast at Super 17 like a retard for 3 episodes straight?
He doesn't. Nobody does.

>>538448348
>the costume and accessory *system

>>538448336
Krillin's death and 18 confronting Super 17 made me feel more than literally anything from Super.

Modders who delude themselves into thinking they are improving anything are so funny.
>>538448336
>>538448481
Is Super 17 even in Sparking 0? I don't think he's even in Gekishin and they really went out of their way to have a varied roster.

>>538448685
>t. sour grapes console kiddie

>>538448654
I guess if you count boredom as a feeling. Did you also clap when Super Saiyan 4 Goku just kept walking around doing nothing against Baby until Baby got a power up and SSJ4 Goku jobbed?

>>538448812
Yes, console players, famous for talking on 4chan a lot and using computers, not a cope at all.
We're not interested in your patreon btw.

I remember that anon that kept posting modders who put their stuff behind a paywall and like half the modders or their teams were trannies somehow.

>>538448348
i still can't get over them only using alternate movesets on costumes for TWO characters, and one of them was a preorder bonus
such a random idea to only get used for goku and fucking 18 of all characters

>>538449281
I'm surprised they aren't doing more with the concept.

Your mistake was believing Spike could make another good fighting game after a decade of failures (UT, OPBB, OPM, JF) . Most of their talented staff is long gone at this point, only Dimps still have the sauce to deliver good games.

>>538449809
I didn't make a mistake, I got a game I liked and had fun with.
My only problem is that the DLCs are just more rosterfagging like most of XV2 when frankly it's the thing I give the least shit about, I'd want more stages and more story.

>/a/ thread is over 3 days old
>only JUST reached 500 posts
>and it was 18 mintues ago
bro...

>>538448654
All it makes me feel is disappointed.

I don't like how the tutorial fight in DB games is almost always the fight with Raditz. Raditz is supposed to be extremely strong, and Goku can't even keep up with him. if it were me, I'd use the 23rd Tenkaichi as like a tutorial level. the first fight being with Goku vs Chichi, so you can learn the defensive techniques against an opponent who can't hurt you. then you are taught the offensive techniques in the Goku v Tien match. and then vs Ma Jr to combine the two lessons and also be introduced to transformations/giant characters.

What's the stupidest reason you ever dropped a DB game?

>>538450693
What happened to /dbs/? They used to be the Kings of /a/...

>>538451176
I cancelled my preorder for Sparking Zero when I realize neither Botamo nor Magetta were making it into the game.

I will never not be butthurt about it. Especially since the first response I always get is how I'd play them once and get bored with the or not at all, and it irritates me more because I'd very much like to render them speechless and retarded with clips of me plaiyng them in seperate DB games but no DB game has them apart from 2 or 3 turnbased games that have no way of actually making use of any of their techniques or skills.

Xenoverse wrote them both out like coward
Legends has gone over the ToP like two dozen times and STILL refuses to add them and will probably just reuse Frost and Cabba again when they loop back to U6/U7
And Sparking Zero just straight up skipped the arc and it pisses me the hell off. Out of all the DB games out right now, Sparking Zero has absolutely no excuse to skip them

>>538451176
my 3DS decided to not place the hex data for my Advanced Adventure save in the correct place so even though the game said it saved, when I booted it up again the save was gone. I had gotten about halfway through in one sitting and I just didn't care to go through all of it again

>>538451641
They are probably skipped because they'd need custom rigs that probably can't be re-used for other characters.

>>538451438
Anime died
Manga was very boring and only ever good for Toei/Toyo shitposting, and then it died too
There was a retarded Jirenfag there that'd report video game posts (that's where the term Videotoy came from) if a discussion actually started
Daima offered nothing discussion or shitpost worthy after it ended

>>538451070
Kakarot had Piccolo Daimao be the tutorial fight for the 23rd DLC

>>538451641
you don't even need to argue that you personally liked them, the entire point of the Tenkaichi games is to include every notable fighter in the series just so players can recreate every single fight. Sparking 0 dropped or otherwise skipped a ton of characters who absolutely should have been in like King Piccolo, Tao, Chichi, General Blue, Great Ape Goku and Gohan, Grandpa Gohan, Pikkon, Super 17, Shadow Dragons, Tarble, and Botamo + Magetta as you said.

>>538451958
that's the same issue with making Raditz the first fight, King Piccolo was the toughest opponent Goku had ever faced at that point. he nearly died. having that be the intro tutorial fight cheapens the narrative weight that battle had.

>>538452427
I think you're forgetting how hard Goku overpowered Piccolo Daimao after drinking the divine water. He basically had Piccolo corned while taking almost no damage until Piccolo took an hostage.

I can see why Toriyama forgot about Launch, she has no personality outside of a gag

>>538452582
and proceeded to get his arse beat to the point he only had one functioning limb.

>>538452885
Yeah, because Piccolo had an hostage, not because he was tough.

>>538452634
>why Toriyama forgot about Launch
...

>>538452885
>he only had one functioning limb.
Which he used to one shot Piccolo Daimao

>>538453382
after getting beaten to within an inch of his life. Piccolo one-shotted Raditz but that doesn't mean it was an easy fight for him.

>>538453563
>after getting beaten to within an inch of his life
After easily beating Piccolo Daimao while taking 0 damage.
>Piccolo one-shotted Raditz
He did not, it took 2 tries AND hitting the spot Gohan had already broken.

>>538453860
>zero damage
except for, you know, when he crippled him.

>Special Beam Cannon wouldn't've worked if Gohan hadn't headbutted Raditz
ah you're the thread troll. no more (you)s

>>538454340
>except for, you know, when he crippled him.
You mean after Goku beat him with 0 damage and he needed to use Tenshihan as a shield because he couldn't do damage otherwise?
>I don't remember them literally saying Raditz was weakened from Gohan's attack so you're muh troll!
Yeah, shut the fuck up, retard, that's what you should do.

>>538454340
Hey man, I just wanted to say: You got absolutely mauled, what the fuck were you thinking?

>>538451834
>one of the few things actively changing and growing involving dragon ball in the current time
>and a fucking jirenfag decided to report all of it and tried to slap a silly label on it
if that doesn't sum up /dbs/ in a nutshell, i don't know what else could

>>538454881
>Be retarded
>Get blown the fuck out
>Say you'll shut up like a bitch
>Get mocked for it
>T-t-too easy!
What were you trying to even accomplish? Beyond derailing a normal discussion with your autistic shit take I mean.

>>538454973
/dbs/ was the unholy child between 4chan autists and twitter hood weebs. Thus terms like 'moeshit' and 'videotoys' which started as ironic jokes and then got taken seriously by the socially retarded exposed to it.

>>538454340
>>538454881
>>538454973
Trying really hard to change the topic, uh? Explain with actual human words how Piccolo losing the fight, taking an hostage and getting one shotted makes him 'tough'.

>>538455452
i'm a different anon having an entirely different conversation, dumbass

>>538318229
damn that does look amazing, I thought sparking zero mods were just gonna be a bunch of memes like ssj5 broly with the same moves but this shows promise

>>538451176
I dropped Infinite World when I was a kid because the first Vegeta fight filtered me

>>538454340
Kill yourself.

WYD?

>>538455526
Would be more convincing if you weren't the only retard around who can't use capital letters.

>>538453860
King Piccolo did use laser eyes on Goku's knee, plus Goku wouldn't be capable of dodging that beam without Tien's help. Since the second, explicitly weaker beam, hurt him. Goku mostly had the advantage, but King Piccolo hurt him a few times.

>>538455556
more and more modders who actually feel like putting in the effort to add new moves are starting to appear, so i have faith the scene's gonna start picking up soon

>>538455726
How the fuck do you still not have Mecha Freeza unlocked?
>>538455630
Which one?

>Moeshit
>Videotoys
Gentlemen...

>gets called out
>starts samefagging and violently lashing out at anyone and everyone
every single time

>>538455556
that's how mods usually go. in the first few weeks or months it's bandwagoners spamming low-effort trash just to pump engagement. once they all get filtered out the only people left are the hardcore autismos who take over the game and basically become a second unofficial dev group.

>>538455947
The Saiyan Saga fight

>>538455680
that hit made it so goku could hold him
if the special beam cannon hit him it still would've one shot him regardless of condition

>>538455920
That and the big beam that does hit Goku are the only times Piccolo dealt real damage in the entire fight tho. The rest of the time Goku kept going 'Didn't hurt'.
The scratches on his clothes even disappeared from one chapter to another.

>>538455937
ESSENCIA is NOT stupid meme shit! It's ESSENTIAL
>>538455947
I just got the game yesterday

>>538448685
>I don't think he's even in Gekishin and they really went out of their way to have a varied roster.
Bro, Gekishin is launching tomorrow with 22 characters total

>>538455995
The fact you regularly have entire threads turn on you should be a hint that you're the problem.

>>538455995
Are you the redschizo or is this guuy >>538456483
the redschizo?

>>538456340
don't bother. he absolutely will fight tooth and nail to try and argue that Gohan did damage to Raditz' armour and made it so the SBC could penetrate or some nonsense, for as long as you continue to acknowledge his existence. Reminder: he once argued for nine hours straight that Red is the strongest character in Pokemon. zero life whatsoever.

>>538456340
>that hit made it so goku could hold him
So it wouldn't have worked otherwise. So you were wrong and retarded. It's that simple. No Gohan hit, no Raditz dying to that attack thanks to being held by Goku.
>if the special beam cannon hit him
Already hit him earlier and only hit his shoulder so that's not a one shot no matter how you slice it. Piccolo should work on his aim if he wants to claim he one shotted someone.

>>538456635
>Don't bother, me, I'm totally not just giving myself permission to give up the argument after trying to claim 5 time I was leaving
>He's totally gonna use that random argument I made in my head
Or you could look at >>538455680 , realize you're wrong and kill yourself.

>538456683
>So it wouldn't have worked otherwise
It would've worked if raditz had let it hit him
You clearly were not arguing from that position but if you're going to keep being disingenuous then there's no point
(You)
there you go

Audio For You: https://files.catbox.moe/j77fjw.webm

>>538456895
Kill yourself, redschizo.

>>538456352
Yeah, King Piccolo didn't hit him much, bit when he did it was noticeable. Goku even had to compensate for his hurt knee by using Nyoibo.

Tien was a weird equalizer. He helped Goku by saving Goku from the first beam, which did waste King Piccolo's stamina, then he used Tien as a hostage to get the advantage again. Goku was the stronger one, you can see, and Tien points out, that Goku was pushing him back, little by little.

>>538456970
>It would've worked if raditz had let it hit him
Most desperate cope ever.
>Fuck, that's not the argument I prepared myself against and it does show I'm wrong, I'm leaving again!
Get on your knees and apologize for being wrong about Toriyama's manga.

Redschizo needs to go back to /DBS/

>>538457281
>M-m-my bully needs to leave!!!!
Good luck finding a place where you won't get mocked, buddy.

>>bully
/DBS/ awaits you

>>538456635
>Reminder: he once argued for nine hours straight that Red is the strongest character in Pokemon.
Wow, you got mauled for that long on such an obvious topic?
> zero life whatsoever.
Fitting for you, given that you're still mad about losing a 4chan argument months later.

>>538456989
>No u
How do you feel when you see >>538455680 ? Does it make you want to put a barrel in your mouth and press the trigger? It should.

(You)

>>538457448
Little tip of you want to fit in better and be less obvious: We write it as /dbs/ here. Hope that helps.

>Retard who can't use capital letters interrupt a normal discussion with his shit take
>Proceed to shit up the thread while screaming about some boogeyman when told to fuck off
Is it the same /dbs/ reject that randomly start screaming about Mario and Luigi from time to time?

>>538454973
Jirenfags themselves are also a result of the drought. You see, whenever an arc ends, half or more of the characterfags for the then-villain migrate over to the next antagonist. NuBroly sorta did the trick, but not only did he not really have a character to fag for since he was just pure strength and a hulking tardo (most of it at that time was literally just movie 8 Brolyfags since he's the one with all the dialogue), but it being a movie caused the drought to come back faster.

And Moro and whoever the main villain in the Heeters arc was supposed to be simply weren't interesting enough. So the Jirenfags that would have migrated to a hypothetical anime retelling Broly or Moro stayed on Jiren and they ended up overflowing with shitposts.

>>538457906
>Characterfags
Sounds like /dbs/ was just a barely disguised RP thread.

Discord is your humble abode, Redschizo.

>>538457885
>Is it the same /dbs/ reject that randomly start screaming about Mario and Luigi from time to time?
Who knows. That one generally uses capital letters tho.

>>538458064
Most shounen battle anime threads have characterfags. Some for agenda wars and some for shipping faggotory. Thankfully we never have to worry about the latter.

ToaLuigi
Redposter
/dbs/issy
Rukiafag
Nulyfaggot
Tienrus
Blindbro
Zlybro
Halposter
Marksissy

>>538457695
>>538458175
That's right, bitch. Eyes on the ground and don't you dare reply to /dbg/chads ever again.
Red won again.

>>538458198
Sounds like those threads are also barely disguised RP threads. Why even bother using trash like that? RPG forums exist and are probably more your speed if you're into that stuff anyway.
>>538458220
Fuck off back to your containment board.

ironic shitposting is still shitposting
you should kill yourself and save the thread the space

>>538458348
>Fuck off back to your containment board.
We already tried, the Pokemon guys said he was our problem now and they refused to take him back after his last crying session over his waifu getting beat by Red.

>>538458373
>you should kill yourself
You mean like you want to when you see >>538455680

>>538458373
>Keep screaming about his boogeyman
>Is upset when someone start pretending to be his boogeyman to laugh at him
How new are you, faggot?

>>538458348
>Why even bother using trash like that?
Because DB is the only anime that basically gets two boards lol. If /DBS/ is shit then you can just go here. If /OP/ or /Nart/ is shit then you're out of luck.

>>538458198
>Some for agenda wars
I don't even wanna know what that is.
>>538457002
Small stuff like how Toriyama used Tenshihan during that fight is so interesting. A lot of other manga did similar stuff but never quite how Toriyama did it.

>>538458220
WHO ARE THEY?

>>538458373
RedGODS: 8.
Coping schizo: 0.

>>538458826
/dbg/ has pretty long dead periods tho.

>>538458348
>Fuck off back to your containment board.
We already tried, the Pokemon guys said he was our problem now and they refused to take him back after his last crying session over his self insert getting beat by Cynthia.

>>538420775
>"Thank you everyone for joining us this weekend! We *may* have more announcements later in the year so stay tuned!"

>>538458484
You won
>>538459101
You lost.
Now move on.

>>538459143
The Daima panel with the casts was cute and fun at least last time.

>>538459143
The marketing guys who invented that type of bullshit should be executed, so frustrating.

I now have an appreciation for Caulifla after playing Sparking Zero and some Gekishin during the beta

>>538459383
GRANDE TETAS!

>>538459383
>Anon finally stopped being gay
Congratulation.

>>538459383
I'm annoyed nobody has made a mod for her or Kale that gives either a bit more meat on them. There's one for Kefla, but that's it. and it's only for her SSJ forms, too.

>>538459383
>We actually have a spic here
GRIM

>>538459480
Keep your fat fetish where it belongs. Which is /co/.

>>538459383
That HAS to be edited.

>>538459480
True. They are so skinny it's gross. Anorexic type shit.

>>538459772
Sausage fingers typed this.

>>538459383
This character has like 0 figures and merch.

>>538459621
I said meat, not pudge. I want them to have Fasha's physique.

>>538459848
Actually I am underweight as fuck. 6'0 140lbs

>>538459896
I've got a few. I like the one where she's doing a combo move with Kale.

>>538459736
I got it from twitter a while ago

>>538460073
>Female without eyebrows
MOLD

>>538459945
>3 figures weight
Morbidly obese.
>>538459904
Fasha is skinnier than this pic outside of a few specific shot.
Fasha has the default Z women physique, literally the same as Bulma. It's an artstyle thing.

>>538459604
>spic franchise
>"There are spics here!"

>>538460153
don't care. it looks better than Super beanpoles.

If you were to draw all the new girls introduced in super's era in Z's artstyle they'd probably be pretty curvy through even then Chi Chi, Bulma and Launch all had the same body back in the early days you can see in that color page where they're all dressed up as a PIT crew

>>538460153
>It's an artstyle thing.
and Z looks a lot better than Super most of the time. Less ugly designs and the color palette is better.

>>538460073
Cute

>>538460153
The U6 saiyans don't even match Super's general art style (being a shittier Buu saga style), they match modern Toriyama's style and get smashed next to designs that're stylistically from a different era.

>>538461604
imagine if they offhandedly revealed her dad is a saiyan named Kakarot

>>538461803
Modern dragon ball could never

>>538461803
That would be dumb

>>538461803
Should be named Rhubarb

>>538451438
Ignore the agendaposts. There's just a militant janitor banning everything even a little shitposty the threads can barely get going.

>>538462902
Step on me queen

>>538462902
BUILT for ryona

>>538463613
>>538464007
The duality of man

>>538461803
That would destroy me. The vast majority of writers and artists would abandon ship and leave me dry.

>>538464776
good

>>538460153
this is what I mean
some beef but not full roidtranny like Kale when she's in SSJ.

>>538393898
This one? https://m.fanfiction.net/s/8678878/1/A-Walking-Shadow
>>538395383
EoZ Goku is fucking creepy. We call him PSYCHOku for a reason
>>538397032
You have autism and can't read facial expressions well.
>>538415149
>Bryce papenbrook
No definitely not. It would be intensely funny if adrian, Eren, meliodas, Kirito, and most other <Cs shared Broly's VA though.
>>538440382
Chat is this real?

>>538381784
>Looking at how many iconic characters are missing from the base roster,
Aside from Super 17 and King Piccolo, the game isn't really missing much in terms of "needed characters".
>But muh BT3 roaster!
Frankly aside from Future Gohan, the only other characters that felt like actual additions where the Shadow Dragon twins, Blue, and Arale.

>>538449281
I hope Goku (Z-End) has Daima's outfit so he can take off his clothes showing his muscles in SS3 to become SS4

>>538465941
Gold. Literally everyone wants this.

>>538464776
What do you mean?

>>538465951
>Clearly make a joke about Goku acting psychotic
>The joke flies over his head because of his autism and then he goes on to call someone else autistic
Now that's funny

>>538466438
I woke up 5 minutes ago mb

>>538464776
Goku is a pure and loyal man who loves his one and only wife STACYchi

Imagine if super saiyan 2 grade 2-3 were a thing instead of the retarded super saiyan 3.

>>538466051
and Kale

>>538467249
the various forms should been unique to the individual saiyans. like, it's 'their' refinement of super saiyan. Grade 2/3 is about pure horsepower boost over the regular version, SSJ2 is like becoming 'one' with saiyanhood, and SSJ3 is "burn every drop of energy right fucking now for the immediate killshot". different paths for the different approaches for what being a super saiyan means.

>>538467425
Something I've always pondered is how do you fix kale while keeping the Z Broly influence? Also on your drawing the left bicep is fucked up.

Imagine if 21 used sex to tame her evil side

>>538467768
yeah I kinda just shot from the hip and was mostly focusing on her legs, her hands are a lot worse. I detest Kale's little noodle legs so god damned much its unreal.

Z Broly is still a big dude even in base form. even untransformed he's like 7' tall, and broadly the same physique as Nappa but even more cut, an absolute grizzly bear. You could easily have Kale be big for a girl without her looking like a man in a dress.

>>538467393
Yup yup

>>538458348
Gottem

>>538468091
like, one of the hallmarks of the 'fit woman' physique is the focus on the lower body. thick powerful thighs and a pair of bowling balls for glutes. Chun Li is like the gold standard for super-idealised 'fit woman' physique. she's got fairly big arms, but yo don't even notice because she's got bloody sequoias for legs. Kale could've looked like this and fit right into the DBZ universe. and when she transforms into full LSSJ she just gets broader everywhere. her arms get big, and her legs get MASSIVE. Female saiyans should be distinguished by their lower body.

>>538468656
I see your point but less Chun-Li but someone that looks teenager-ish.
(Unless, they do timeskip/reboot designs for the U6 saiyans that looks more adult or something)

>>538468656
honestly i'd say chun's physique should be where she's at in her controlled state, because if she looked like that in base her legendary form's gonna be bordering parody-tier

>>538468091
My thoughts are make Kale small (4'8 like Caulifla is and be slightly thinner than her) while untransformed and have her be grow to around 6' and give her a bit of muscle definition when SS. Beserk would be characterized by the blank eyes.
>>538468656
That aint a bad idea actually. Just give Kale massive tree trunk thighs kek.

>>538468919
Kale IS a parody THOUGH

>>538468919
her controlled state should be like any other saiayan, where it's just like her normal base state's physique. maybe a little more definition.
remember, the Hulk form doesn't exist in the manga, the 'controlled' state from the anime is what her berserk form looked like in the manga. in the manga she never gains control of her super saiyan form.
the distinction should be her ponytail, like how Future Trunks' normal SSJ form maintains the pony but when he goes Super Trunks the hairband burns away and his hair goes wild. in her controlled state, she should still have her pony.

>>538449275
Why are you writing Early Life sections for Wikipedia about modders? LOL

>>538469414
>Tracing Son Bra

>>538469414
base kale with her hair down would be pretty cool...

I saw a fanfic one time that reversed the two. Caulifla had the ponytail and kale had her hair down.

>>538467768
>how do you fix kale
there's nothing to fix. she's perfect. Caulifla needs Super Saiyan Blue, tho.

FighterZ Kefla is the perfect physique for base Caulifa and Kale.

>>538469938
She shows up with her hair down after her first berserk outburst with Cabba and Caulifla.

kale and caulifla are absolutely terrible characters

>>538469739
I mean... I'm not gonna sit here and pretend I don't like her design. but that isn't who I was thinking of.

>>538470068
It was ugly. I thought it was interesting though. Something something character development.
Caulifla ended up dying

>>538470796
>t. homosexual

>>538470852
It was mostly a joke. Salagir likes to pretend he invented a lot of things that are either super basic or Toriyama had already done.
In /dbs/ he would come sometimes (it was with very broken English so it was either him or one of his cronies) and claim caulifla copies sonbra.

>>538471039
>Projection

>>538471114
>Salagir likes to pretend he invented a lot of things that are either super basic or Toriyama had already done.
Apparently he talked in a post tournament stream (After Goku jobbed) that DBS copied from DBM, but Shueisha/Toei will never admit it for legal reasons.

>>538471039
>I only like Caulifla and Kale because they're female
Weird admission. Doesn't make them not shit.

>>538471114
the ToP is eerily similar in concept to the multiverse tournament, but none of the characters were all that similar.

speaking of FighterZ, they really played up the goofball aspect of Kale Caulifla and Kefla

>>538471587
The concept of a multiversal tournament is just an upgrade of the otherworld tournament which itself is an upgrade of the Tenkaichi Budokai. It isn't that hard to come up with.

>>538471768
Not to mention, what DBM itself does is nothing special. It's just "Let's bring all of these villains and have them fight the heroes again!", a very video game plot. Fact that 90% of the universes are just "Villain won lmao" shows how basic DBM as a concept is.

>>538471449
One of the things he said DBS copied was the concept of all namekians fusing into one. As if that isn't the first thing kids on the playground came up with after the Namek Arc.

>>538471546
Dragon Ball Super characters aren't exactly know for their great personalities or tangible growth. whether you like any of them or not is pretty much exclusively up to who you think looks cool and does cool shit. i think Cabba, Caulifla, and Kale look cool and do cool shit. i feel the same way about Goku Black. they're pretty much the only 4 DBS characters i give a fuck about. well, Moro also, but he doesn't even really exist. he's a manga myth.

>>538472564
By that logic, cabba is the most anticool antihype characters imaginable. That's why the SS4 Gogeta vs cabba meme took off.

>>538472174
And then Salagir pretends SS Oozaru isn't something he copied from GT... He also says he came up with Goku's new form before UI debuted, this despite the form being Gohan's Ultimate, functioning like UI Sign, and even having that brighter shade around his hair...

In other words, if an idea DBM more or less did first, debuts in an official series, they copied from Salagir. If DBM did something after a series, Salagir claims he came up with it independently. Lmao.

>>538467768
I'd just make her taller to have some presence, she can stay relatively skinny in her base form. She would have to look down to eye contact Goku. Her head in base form right now looks kinda big relative to her body so I'd change the proportions to look better.

>>538472564
I like Caulifla and Kale in concept, not in execution. Goku Black was a totally wasted opportunity for an alt reality evil Goku. Personally I only actually liked Beerus and Broly.

>>538472984
>I like Caulifla and Kale in concept, not in execution.
DBS has characters like that...
>U6 in general
>Jiren
>Moro

>>538472984
>Goku Black was a totally wasted opportunity for an alt reality evil Goku
I hear this all the time but nah. Try to sell me on an evil Goku.

>>538472730
Cabba has a cool dynamic with Vegeta and Sadala is (and i say this with the utmost confidence) better in my imagination than it would be if Toriyama actually wrote an arc about it.

>>538472984
Beerus has a cool character design but he and Whis both neutralize pretty much any potential narrative tension unless Zeno is around to bully them into letting Z Fighters die. when Whis rewound time at the end of the Freeza movie, i knew we were cooked. i agree that Caulifla, Kale, and Goku Black could've been executed better – but, again, that's Super in a nutshell. pretty much everything except the Super Broly movie could have and should have been executed better. Heroes Goku Black is way, way, waaaaay cooler than Super Black.

>>538473290
Goku except didn't take a knock on the head.
or alternatively, he went full 'waku waku' and started fighting people who didn't want to fight him, and realised he could draw more strength out of them by filling them with fear and anger

>>538473618
>Goku except didn't take a knock on the head.
Thats Turles

>>538473290
NTA, but best evil Goku I've seen is Sai Kakarot. He feels like a proper take of Goku's warrior mentality, but given to an evil character. A little silly he decided to recruit Vegeta though, since he callously forced Nappa to fight to the death though...

>>538473452
>Beerus has a cool character design but he and Whis both neutralize pretty much any potential narrative tension unless Zeno is around to bully them into letting Z Fighters die.
And Z fighters dying means little since this is an interquel... Plus Zeno himself was used to solve the Zamasu problem.

>Heroes Goku Black is way, way, waaaaay cooler than Super Black.
He does feel more unhinged than Super Black. Like he can barely control his body's desire for a good fight.

>>538473452
I like Beerus as a character, not as a narrative contributor. I like how he isn't deliberately evil, he's just doing his job which just so happens to be destroying planets. He's like the grim reaper. He doesn't go around killing people out of hate, it's like when you take a shower and kill billions of microorganisms in the process. They're on such a lower level of existence that you don't think about them at all, and that's how he thinks about mortal life. Then Goku comes along and piques his interest, like if you were about to smash an ant on the counter and it suddenly started reciting Shakespearean sonnets to you in a bid to save its life.
I think he should've made it clear he has no intention on stepping in to save Goku and Co from their mortal issues, and he should've stuck to the claim as well. because, he doesn't really care if any of them die outside of Goku and maybe Vegeta personally. like, if Gohan or Bulma keeled over, he'd shrug and say "not my problem".

Resurrection F should've just had Vegeta end Frieza. finally get his revenge for Frieza making a fool out of him.

"Evil Goku" isn't really all that fun. Black and Turles are fine but only because they're reflections OF Goku, not "What if GOKU but EVIL?!!?!?!" Just doing that is lame.
The only other way you can make a less "good" Goku work is by going literally all the way back to his roots: Sun Wukong. Powerful, arrogant, trickster, quick to start shit, LOVES a good fight, will still fight for his friends, generally has enough presence of personality to be the focal point of a story.

>>538473696
yeah, a canon Turles.

>>538473756
you can justify that as Kakarot being able to sense battle potential, and he could tell Nappa was at his peak and wasn't going to develop further. he was fully prepared to kill Vegeta if he didn't cut the mustard. His goal was to find someone he can rely on in his revolt against Frieza, because he knew he couldn't do it himself. But with the assistance of the Prince of Saiyans... That's what sets him apart from Goku; that coldblooded shrewdness. He'll work with people who can be of use, and he'll cut them loose when they don't. Honest, driven, committed. Lawful Evil. a noble demon.

Black was a good take on an "evil Goku" especially considering how well he fit into the narrative at the time. Utilizing characters from U10, the Super DBs, mortals being close to the gods and he had his own take on a godly Super Saiyan form. Instead of doing the thing where Goku somehow turns evil you had a different character becoming Goku and slowly learning the body but also having the Goku-isms come out. When Zamasu and Black were together you had that classic Toriyama trope with a duo that can bounce off each other.

Do we know how you unlock characters in the full release version of Gekishin yet? Looking at the roster it's kinda hard to ignore that they intentionally left out all of the "gacha banner" characters (Blue, Blue Evo, SSJ4, UI, MUI, Fusions). Are they going to make us roll for characters & costumes?

>>538471449
Literally nobody at either companies knows about his shitty fanmanga, if they did, he'd be gone.

>>538474332
>Canon
I will strangle you.
Canon = worse and lame

>>538471587
DBM's multiverse is literally just Fusion / Legends / Heroes / DBO's 'timeline fuckers free for all pseudo tournament'.
>>538472839
While the concept of the form is just Ultimate but used by Goku, the look and how it fought was basiclaly copy pasted UI Omen.

>>538474219
Turles is a way better character than Black. He actually had a pretty good reason for being an evil bastard and his personality and voice are great. Evil Goku that is evil for the sake of being evil with a weird posh british accent is super retarded. I'd like Turles be made canon as literally evil Goku from the multiverse.

>>538475141
>Do we know how you unlock characters in the full release version of Gekishin yet?
No. If it's like the tests, it will be bought with the same currency as everything else.
>Are they going to make us roll for characters & costumes?
In the test, you could buy the characters and clothes directly but intros, animations, alt colors and all that stuff were Gacha rolls.

>>538473452
>Sadala is (and i say this with the utmost confidence) better in my imagination than it would be if Toriyama actually wrote an arc about it.
100% absolute golden truth. Really think about what they'd do with it and you realize it'd be shit. It's better left for imagination. It WILL disappoint.
>Cabba has a cool dynamic with Vegeta
I like the idea of Bejita taking a student, I really do. But almost nothing has been done with it. I want to see Cabba man the fuck up, then I'd like him a lot. But as is he's dogwater. I see the intention but it's not happening any time soon.
>>538474210
>Resurrection F should've just had Vegeta end Frieza. finally get his revenge for Frieza making a fool out of him.
>Namek - Goku kills Freeza
>RoF - Bejita kills Freeza
>Black Freeza - Gohan defeats Freeza so soundly he never fucks with them again and is allowed to remain alove
>All three Saiyans on Namek get to defeat Freeza
Would've been Kino...

>>538475459
doesn't Goku Black talk that way because he's actually Future Zamasu in Goku's body? therefore, it's supposed to be like Zamasu talking just with Goku's voice. Zamasu has that sort of posh transatlantic voice from what I remember.

Tien feels like he could’ve been a character like Vegeta if he didn’t get written out.

>>538475696
>>538474210
Anyone who thinks Vegeta should have killed Freeza in Fukatsu no F is a worthless retard who has never watched DB and just knows it from memes and online takes.
Freeza doesn't give a shit about Vegeta and Vegeta's issue with Freeza was purely based around not being the biggest bully in the universe, which is irrelevant now that he's redeemed.
It would be an utterly soulless confrontation and only 'satisfying' for people who have literally made up a plotline in their own head.

>>538475459
>Judging a character based on dub trash

>>538471449
>DBS copied from DBM
That's a funny thought. DBM is kind of worthless for ideas though. Its most unique and passable idea is Normal Super Saiyan which is just Ultimate anyway. Every other idea is either blatant favoritism (this guy is the biggest King Cold fag on Earth, also hates Trunks for some reason) or outright shitting on the setting with magic.

>>538475349
Non-canon cope.
>>538475032
Black and Zamasu were a lot of fun. The whole 'They aren't listening' 'Doesn't matter, I was just getting off the sound of my own voice' moment was perfect.
Even Fused Zamasu had fun moments like when he randomly start crying like an Evangelion character because he's THAT high on his horse.

>>538474634
I think Nappa's case isn't him having reached his peak, but Kakarot not having the patience/ interest in seeing it develop. Like you said, he was planning to kill Vegeta, despite Vegeta having a power level of 13000, which's stronger than most beings out there.

>>538475961
Anyone who thinks Revival of Freeza (I am not a retarded wannabe Kanzenshuu pseud like you) was anything except mindless shitty poorly animated CGI filled fanservice doesn't deserve to speak in any manner.

>>538475961
Vegeta literally cried out of anger over how Frieza killed the saiyans and then led him to believe they had died from a meteor strike, all the while the rest of the Frieza force thought he was an absolute chump as a result
Vegeta also makes it very clear in RoF that he has wanted to take a shot at Frieza for years

>>538476212
>or outright shitting on the setting with magic.
It's not even the fun kind of magic, it's the retarded 'I'm so smart but can't call my rule lawyering 'Science!' so I'll call it 'magic'' kind of magic.

>>538475768
>Zamasu has that sort of posh transatlantic voice
Zamasu doesn't have a transatlantic accent but he does speak quite poshly.

>>538476286
>No u, please use my shitty fanname
No.
Fukatsu no F being bad isn't an excuse to make it worse with your absolutely dogshit fanfic.

>>538476409
Vegeta cried because he got stomped and had his pride as 'muh super saiyan' got crushed, it's not something he should be rewarded for. He should be pitied like Goku did and that's it.
>Vegeta also makes it very clear in RoF that he has wanted to take a shot at Frieza for years
Vegeta wants a shot at everyone, that still doesn't make for a good confrontation.

>dogshit fanfic.
But enough about Dragon Ball Z (Anime), Dragon Ball GT, Dragon Ball Super (Manga and Anime), Dragon Ball Heroes, Dragon Ball Videoganes, and Dragon Ball Daima

>>538476286
>I am not a retarded

>>538476851
>Reddit meme
Go back to /V/eddit.

>>538477042
I got it on Ifunny, faggot.

>>538476212
>also hates Trunks for some reason
Which is really weird because Trunks fights to kill quickly, not unlike the "smart" DBM characters.

>or outright shitting on the setting with magic.
While DBM Magic being so overpowered and boring was always bad, Neva showed how a completely overpowered magician would work in DB (Although him giving Goku SS4 was like DBM Buu giving other characters power ups. That was lame).

>>538476418
Either that or instant win button kind of magic (The Namekian's capacity to imprison Buu and shut down super saiyans, and that time stop).

>>538474210
>Resurrection F should've just had Vegeta end Frieza
The "goku is the main protag and therefore must kill the baddie" problem. Vegeta should've gotten a lot during super since hes nowhere near as much of a shitheel as he used to be. Not every big bad, but at least one should've been his, especially since he's the butt of a fair amount of jokes with Beerus around.

>>538477067
>ICHADnny
Never mind. Please, roll out the red carpet for this distinguished gentleman.

>"Bulma will lose interest if I'm gone for too long"
Which character said this line?