Thread 538392372

Crow edition

>Latest patch:
https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/09-04-2025-update.80693/

>Steam Page:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/

>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:
https://forums.playdeadlock.com/

>How do I git in?
Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be autistic.

>How do I git gud?
Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.

Additional Resources:
>Unofficial Wiki
https://deadlock.wiki
>New Player Guide
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/edit
>Advanced Movement Guide
https://www.dlmovement.wiki/
>Unofficial Stat Tracker
https://statlocker.gg/
https://tracklock.gg/
>Unofficial Voiceline Viewer
https://deadlock.vlviewer.com/

Threadlocked: >>538303140

goon

Seggs with Vyper and filling her up with eggs

Talon is very strong.
Yamato is the weakest hero.
Paradox is useless.

Vindicta owes me sex

I got bored of Viscous and quit playing him but I just realized
>most overtuned character right now is a ganker
>Viscous's gimmick is being ungankable
Maybe I should do a splitpusher Viscous build

She sounds like an annoying teenager in this line. Is Yoshi going to remodel her like Peni Parker?

Nerf Paige please, god damn it

It's a real shame they're going to completely remove 100% of religious references and design elements from the Priest because of China

Kelvin is fucking aids I hate that ginger nigger

Victor is fucking aids I hate that romanian nigger.

>shiv main
>doorman games going up
god i fucking love this guy. i dont care im always having a good time. when i play shiv im always raging.

I have every character in my roster. all are high priority, and I make my builds

>>538393128
McGinnis kinda just is a redditor. She has a like where she acts all smarmy because Ivy looks down on her for basically being a war criminal.
>erm don’t do that okay.

>>538393674
Her hero select render alone puts me off playing her. Literally a tips fedora pose.

>>538393128
She is quite young, was paraded around as some prodigy when she was a teen or so which is why she has the ego

>>538392691
ritualist gods...

>anyone gonna help hello why is nobody helping????
I'M RIGHT HERE NIGGA WHAT DO YOU WANT

>>538394208
I say, look and act like that.

>Haze, Victor, and Abrams are only actually good if the enemy team is retarded
>the enemy team is never retarded
Why does it have to be like this?
Why are my three favorite characters like this?
What is Ice Fraud doing with this game's balance?

>>538394171
you're fucking retard if you believe Talon isn't op

>>538393128
She's a shut-in and a huge ego misanthrope with zero understanding of social cues, what did you expect?

>Russians in my team
I euthanize.
>Be insulted or pinged at any point
I euthanize.
>Someone ignores my ping
I euthanize.
>Sinclair in my team
I euthanize.
>Shiv in my team
I euthanize

Simple as.

>>538394323
ritualist gods...

Do you think Talon is still interested in sexual relationships with girls like Pagie?

>>538394295
Victor is the best hero in the game right now you dumb faggot

>>538393189
Only if you buff her tits and thighs

>>538394149
Doesn't look quite young though

>>538394526
And yet every Victor on my team feeds 2/20, and I've only ever seen a single enemy Victor go positive once.

>>538394295
But these are all noobstompers? Abrams hardcore counters many dishonest heroes like Drifter, Haze is a lose lane - win game hero, Victor is simply busted.
This is a self-report post

>>538394694
>play Abrams in Initiate 2
>literally the entire enemy team has perfect parry timing
No.

>>538394327
Nah. She is normal in other conversations.

>>538394842
parrying heavy melees is not hard

Vortex Web into cart+bell never gets old even if we're getting stomped and it doesn't do anything.

Billy's ult should not be able to pull you around walls

>>538394964
Correct, which is why I used it as an example if why Abrams isn't a noobstomper. He's a retardstomper. When you pick Abrams you're betting on the enemy team being retarded.
Same with Haze and Victor, but fir different reasons.

>>538395105
>baiting parries? what's that?
>using my gun instead of heavy attack? why would I do that?
not to mention that you have a free heavy attack opportunity right after using your leveled charge, you are just shit at the game

>>538395079
It doesn't. You're just a retard that is barely around the corner of the wall from him.

>Win slightly too many games in a row
>INSTANTLY hit with feeders and rage abandons
Just like dota.

Wraith feels like shit to play now. Don't even know what the purpose of this character is now especially with how they RUINED her ult

>>538395864
it's still a knock up, silence, and disarm. sure it's not a free kill on a completely helpless target but they're still mostly helpless if you can aim since they can move now.

Explain this shit Yamafags.

>dudes that are useless feeders in lane but switch on in mid/late game

what is wrong with these dudes

I would like to disarm, silence and knock up Vindicta

>>538395804
love these little niggas like you wouldn't believe

>>538396150
My lane partner held me back

my fps drops to 30 in late game fights

>>538396097
EXPLAIN IT

>>538396150
some heroes are dogshit at lane, some lane matchups are unwinnable CBT, sometimes your retarded lane mate feeds 2-3 times and you are down 1k souls in essentially a 2v1 so you inevitably start feeding too

Why do people even pick Shiv anymore? This hero is doodoo now.

>>538396243
that's exactly what shills were saying about Infernus when the game was 1st playable, kill yourself you worthless brown jeet

>>538396097
>>538396336
source engine when one player has good ping and the other is a retard with 200 ping.

>>538396097
The way Valve's shitty netcode "works" is that your hitbox is extended depending on each user's ping client-side. If Yama is on something like 200 ping then her game believes your hitbox was still there 200ms prior on her screen and it gives her prio for some reason.
Notably, there are also cheats that abuse this quirk to hit you through walls. Small possibility.

>>538394401
>russian shiv player
hangings too good for him! burning's too good for him!

>>538396150
Some people suck at laning but are good at farming and teamfighting/pushing

>>538396658
>Notably, there are also cheats that abuse this quirk to hit you through walls. Small possibility.
Got a source on that or demonstration? I don't need the actual thing, but this fag in the video started their ability in full cover and hit me with the lag of a 1000 African kids.

>>538395804
How is the creep AI so shitty in this game?

>>538396794
he made it up, that's not how source netcode works at all.
he hit you on his screen.

>>538396929
He never leaves cover. How did he hit me on his fucking screen unless Yamatos abilites just go through walls. That makes no sense either.

>>538396243
>Games in 30 minutes!
kino

>>538396336
sorry buddy too slow

Rivals season 4 this week. Ready to be forgotten again?

>>538397221
Who?

How old is Drifter? Is he ancient like "antediluvian ancient" or just 200+ years old? Cuz why does he have a cajun accent?

>>538397136
agreed, not being able to play this slop for periods of time was kino

>>538393545
Victor is Romanian in lore?

>>538396794
>got a source on that demonstration
No, it's just something my boyfriend explained to me a month ago and something he did in TF2 as Sniper. He's been working with videogame cheats for over a decade so I believe him. Doesn't matter if you believe it or not.

>>538396420
monke man

>>538397289
No, I made it up.

What's the worst lane matchups when playing Abrams?

>>538397490
Anyone with on hit debuffs. You are just a big and slow target for them.

>>538397490
probably vindicta but gay talon is pretty bad too

>>538397490
about half the cast. abrams relies a lot on having a good teammate to make up for his shitty gun range otherwise he can't do anything except bet the farm on shoulder charges

>>538397490
Grey Talon/Vindicita
He's similar to Billy in that sense where he's fucking useless if the enemy can poke him at lane from afar 24/7

>>538392614
Extremely unwise decision on all counts

>>538397490
Anyone that's strong from far away, Haze, Ivy because she's much faster and can stone form anytime you get close to her and you'll have to manage your stamina a lot more carefully than she will

>>538396878
Because they need hundreds of them to navigate a 3d environment without destroying the server

>pick Talon
>win 4th game in a row

really makes you think

>>538397490
Vindicta and Mina i'd guess.

>>538397724
Winstreaks happen anytime I try a new hero desu, and then usually it's followed by a loss streak of an equal amount of games

>>538394842
>not going gun Abrams
You did this to yourself

>>538397207
I would blame my reaction there could I see the bitch but I can't even see them charge the skill up. Absolute bullshit moment.

is there a trick to get the buffs from the slots or is it just rng

>>538397867
que your Heavy attack starting on second last dot and you should get the buffs.

>>538396428
>>538397136
Are these bot replies? They have no correlation to the video or text of >>538396243

Speaking of, why does the buff text you got from the machine sometimes not show up?
I like seeing which 4 I got

>>538397792
because the first games of a new hero are in a lower mmr bracket

>>538397207
>>538396097
Poopy netcode or lagging Russian?

>>538398174
just our resident deadlock schizo hater.
could be a bot also

>>538398174
other one looks like a mis-reply but that video used to be posted on the official discord before servers went up along with the message "Games in 30 minutes". my post was referencing that

>>538398174
the other one does, you're just a newfag

>>538398452
reads like a bot, just don't reply and shit on Victor posts
btw he's totally shit now and needs buffs

>quit dota 2 ages ago
>playing deadlock now
>getting people saying the exact same thing such as "HURDUR....IT TOOK 4 PEOPLE TO KILL ME" :))))" or "RUNNING AWAY? PUSSY!!!!"
ahh just like the good old days

>>538398335
it is what it is, game is poorly made.

>>538397986
dot?

>>538398631
>Okayh...

>>538397867
Hit it when the light bar fills at the top, light melee for one buff, heavy for four

FOR THE DJINN

>>538398561
play gun victor and run people down
he's braindead tier and just statchecks people

how come I don't see lady geist almost every game now

>>538399247
I wish the low health lines were a bit easier to hear since they're great

>>538399448
That's what I'm doing but I don't think you can farm or build him as gun from start. I really hate the nerf to his aura size. Even with greater expansion it doesn't even reach 11m. Feels utterly useless to fight people with and has been downgraded to a farming skill and nothing else.

>>538398631
Just gotta deal with it. More of the same Yamato. Luckily I won the lane easily because the Billy seemed wood tier.

>>538399247
BY THE EYE OF AGAMOTTO
I MEAN NASHALLA
FUCK

>>538393128
She’s a cunt that works for a arms company

>>538399874
>but I don't think you can farm or build him as gun from start
cultist is one of his best items on gun build, I've started getting monster rounds even on non-gun builds because it lets you control lane so much easier

>>538397490
Doorman
>charge him
Baroness or cart stun
>use ult
Can cancel yours midair with his ult, it causes the shockwave to come out above his head, no damage
>Try to escape
Portals
>punch him
Lmao parry

Squishy little bastard otherwise

>>538400363
Cultist is great for sure. If I get it I aim to get it around the 8 minute mark. I've also tried Trophy Hunter for a few games, because of the health it gives and the passive souls was buffed.

I also tried Spellslinger in this game and you can pretty much have 100% uptime on it but that means spamming your heal, even when you don't need it. Aura doesn't trigger it sadly. Don't think that's viable but man is it fun to have super fast reload. I've learned the typical cold front + some spirit and spirit resist means you can farm all camps fast and be useful in fights too. Think I'm gonna try active reload next. His gun is super innaccurate and using aura while shooting is a different FOV so I'm not used to it.

Frenzy I pick for every game now. Also Haze got away in this clip. I fucking hate Haze.

>>538397705
Minecraft doesn't have a problem with this, valve needs to hire mojang

>game has 31 kills 12 minutes in
what on earth is going on

>>538394842
>>538395105

>>538394295
maybe (You) were the retard all along.

>>538394559
>that obese
>thigh gap

>victor goes to farm the enemy jungle and almost dies against the jungle creeps
>their only help is trying to shoot the enemies from the side doing minimal damage
>returns to lane after the enemy pushed and gets raped
>builds 0 spirit resistance
genuinely confused on that game

>>538401792
COME ON AND BRAWL
picture hasn't been updated in a year btw

>out of the latest 30 matches, 13 had abandons
>11 or which were on my team
Nice fucking matchmaking

is there a guide on how to use each heroe's abilities together?

>>538402425
Learn how to type, retard.

>>538396785
that's me. how do I stop sucking at lane?

>>538402443
>Seven did nothing wrong
This I can believe
You're telling me big gov is gonna react to well magical geniuses who don't suck their cock 24/7?
Feds were probably on his ass from the beginning just for existing.

>>538395405
>not to mention that you have a free heavy attack opportunity right after using your leveled charge
NTA but they can counter that with debuff remover and still parry, but still a good strat until enemies buy that.

>>538396794
you can start charging in the middle of another animation, like dash, or climb, then barely pop out from behind cover when it's fully charged.
also the hitbox on that skill is very generous. if you ever see true 1-tricks, especially in higher ranks, they will do some real anime shit to you.

>>538402496
No because most characters are straight forward and if a character has a combo or a unique way to use their abilities, you'll usually see it pretty often in high level play i.e. paradox swap combo or or pockets safe burst teleport

still hope they redesign tower and creeps, they still look like shit.

>>538397490
it's more about who your partner is.
every time the game puts me with something useless, like billy or victor, we get stomped. I try to swap out of those lanes.

>>538398181
sometimes playing multiple games without closing your client can cause minor bugs like this, and the chat wheel being half invisible.
reminds me of the old cs 1.5 days when we used to all close the game between each scrim.

>>538402757
i did tell the victor to return to lane but they ignored it
and im not here to wrangle retards

>>538402975
I don't want to spectate the game to find out if they dashed, but they didn't seem to dash at all from that perspective.

>>538398578
it's kind of refreshing to see all these youngsters go through the same copes that I did back in the allstars days.

>>538399874
>yamato ults to run away from his tower
?

You should not be allowed to pause btw

EU lobby?

I think it's really cool that you can use ricochet with inhibitor to make the enemy team's damage complete dogshit
That's really cool and not infuriating to play against at all

>>538404075
disarm them so they can't shoot you with ricochet, siphon bullets, inhibitor DUUUUUUUUUUUHHHHH u stupid mayn

>>538403693
go back to lol or whatever shitty game you came from.

>>538404186
>be multiplayer game
>11 other people are playing
>you can pause whenever you want at the press of a button because reasons
>somehow this is okay

victor and seven alone are going to drag that playercount back down to the dark ages as long as valve neglects putting in an item tutorial for overwatch refugees and keeps sustained spirit damage as strong as it is

>>538404321
>t. never played any sports irl

>>538403687
?

>>538403495
https://youtu.be/ZMGexfXmThM
this guy has discovered even more tech since this I think. the hero is extremely dishonest in competent hands.

>>538404570
>no CC
>relies on cooldowns
not dishonest

>>538399247
I TAKE YOUR WIFE

>>538404665
>hits you from behind corners
>relies on quirky animation cancel abuse
>has built-in unstoppable + fury trance + transcedent cooldown + yasha&kaya

>>538399836
Why'd you post a selfie here anon

I miss the old lighting, it made the game look so clean

There I said it

I just used a paige build with no greater expansion
Is that not stupid or what???

>retards dying solo at 40min into the game not understanding it's an automatic game loss
>retards doing fuck-all on the other side of the map at 40min
>team wins team fight and then does nothing
>one or more teammates doing obnoxiously low damage (sub 20k) after 40 min
This is Dota 2 all over again.

>>538405028
>be shit
>play in shit rank lobbies
>get shit players

>>538404367
>item tutorial
If we're lucky we'll get tutorials 5-7 years after launch that are outdated within two months

>>538404875
first one is the only dishonesty and even then it's for an attack that has a charge time most of the time
the quirky animation cancel is just tech and it's fine and good to have
the ultimate is fine, 90% of her damage is from her 1 ability, she needs to get close to people to hurt and heal which puts her as a highlighted target so she needs the built-in sustain. forcing a yamato into ultimate outside of a teamfight is huge value

>build rat
>my retarded team loses every single teamfight even when they have numbers advantage to the point i literally never have an opportunity to push
>build for team fights
>carry even the most braindead teammates when fighting but my retarded team is literally physically incapable of pushing past our side of the map, like there's a barrier that bounces them into the farm or even into doing fuck all so i always end up with top obj damage despite the fact i suck at pushing
genuinely wtf do i do

I want to add Ivy to my hero pool, tracklock and statlocker both say the only build is gun ivy.
I guess it's because spirit can't solo carry games?

>>538404570
Didn't see a single skill shot of hitting from behind walls without showing yourself.

>>538399874
Nothing happened in this clip. Stop crying over nothing and just play the game, faggot.

>>538405306
no it's just because her gun is busted

>>538405270
It's time for you to go pro since you're so much better and smarter than everyone else.

>>538405321
Yamanigger getting exposed and seething

>>538405308
same reason heavy melee catches you when you dash jump but people can get away from you when they dash jump your heavy melee. just ping gap.

>>538397082
Yamato clearly did leave cover. Enough for the spell to hit.

>>538402186
Yeah, fuck that valley, I'm going to play Victor instead.

>>538405306
95% of ivy players don't understand Ivy's combo and assume a spirit build is just mindlessly chucking kudzu or flinging your ult out and flying away. If you know how to do her actual ability combo, then you just buy vortex web and lightning scroll and win every team fight.

>lane is pushing towards Walker
>I spawn in 3 seconds
>"I'll take green"
>start going to green
>some faggot from yellow ziplines aaaaaallll the fucking way to green to do fucking nothing but halve the souls I get
>meanwhile yellow gets pushed to walker
>now the faggot goes aaaaaaaaaaaalllll the fucking way back to that lane
>"GUYS ZE WALKER"
no shit you fucking nigger faggot why the fuck did you come to this side of the MAP YOU FUCKING INBRED RUSSIAN PIECE OF SHIT NIGGER FAGGOT AAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>538393128
She generally sounds like a fat fucking femcel
And hey, I guess it fits her, I am just surprised some people actually like her character

>>538405532
the average player does not look at the map more than once a minute I am convinced

>>538405470
Show me. Clips there. There's even a slow motion one. Just screencap and post image.

>>538405306
Gun is easier than her Ult combo and is less cooldown dependant

>>538405679
Open your eyes and watch the clip, fag >>538398335

>>538405536
discord troons are really attached to her

>>538405739
Her ult combo is the easiest shit in the world, the trick is just not to be flying is the mesosphere

>>538397563
Knockdown/phantom punch solves this

>>538402790
For me the first thing is that the guardian doesn't do shit and does not block enemy fire.
If your lane buddy is aggro you also should be unless they're just retarded. If they're passive just try and go neutral. It does feel like Infernus players have aimbots or something until 10 minutes pass.

>>538403378
I have gotten the wheel thing too, didn't know it was from playing several games

What makes Paradox so fucking annoying to play against and so fucking annoying to try to play? Every Paradox I face (which is rarely at my rank) just bullies the lane, swap is guaranteed kill, yet whenever I try Paradox the swaps never fucking land and her gun damage is abysmal in lane and bomb useless. What the hell am I missing?!

>>538404075
FOR THE DJINN

>>538405843
Wait sorry I forgot to post the image showing Yamato.

>>538406404
they have 100+ games and you have 1.

>>538406718
its embarrassing how much you are malding over this

>>538406909
its embarrassing how much you are malding over this

>>538406718
at least your melty is giving me a good chuckle. thanks.

Why does Abrams have like 40 fucking second cooldown on his charge and 180 on his dogshit ult

>>538406404
gun has good range and is easy to proc headshot booster with
that and mystic shot gives good poke
swap is kinda designed to have carbine to set it up, makes it easier to hit
if you swap them back into a bomb you can get extra damage out of it

>>538405531
>>538406071
which build am I supposed to use? Len's?

is victors gun dogshit or am i dogshit?

>>538407170
That build looks fine to me, you don't really need rapid recharge though, id swap it out for duration extender.

I CAN'T CONTAIN IT ANY LONGER
*shits pants*
*kills haze and ivy*

>>538407805
yes

>>538407805
no

splitshot seven
think about it

>>538406098
yeah let me rush knockdown on lane

what should I specifically build around Victor? especially if they pick up infuser
he's single-handedly carried so many dogshit teams I need him gone I don't care about the investment

>>538408419
healbane or/and the T4 headshot item

>>538404075
This is what support ivys would be doing if they weren't fucking retards

>>538407170
there's a build I really like called Literal Active Menace, you could try that one

>Haze
>40m game
>750 obj dmg
>2-7-3

How do I win with Haze like this?

>>538408001
>Ivy with purple eyes
glad we dodged a bullet with that shitty chungus ivy skin

>>538408782
hope the enemy team has an equally retarded mina

>>538408419
Capacitor to remove infuser

>>538408835
>>538408782
Quality discussion here
>my teammate dumb
>other player dumb
wow

>>538408983
if you have a retard on the team your only hope is for the other team to have a bigger retard sometimes

>>538406718
kek saved

>>538408419
healbane, toxic bullets and silence wave

there should be an item which replaces hour long stun on getting parried with a slow or some shit

>>538407805
victor has a good gun but you should not build for it

Did she win or lose? The answer might surprise you!

Getting fed on doorman is so much fun.
>pushed up into lane
>two come to kill me
>I send one to the baroness
>the other I fucking rape with my cart and bell and they run away
>letting me focus on the guy coming out the baroness
>put a bell down
>pop it and hit him with cold front
>dead
hell yea

>>538410379
looks like AI

>>538410379
We need to get this game more popular among asian artitsts

>>538410106
parry should be a slow + disarm or something
getting stunned for 3 seconds or whatever to instantly die is just fucking gay
>lol deserved melee nigger!
there are a billion things gayer and more annoying than melee in this game

>>538410379
me taking the picture

>teammate thinks it's ok to ask me to do something even though there has been zero pressure on lanes besides me the entire game
>tell him i can't get shit done because nobody else is putting pressure on lanes just team fighting and losing said team fights
>says "ok bro don't yell at me"
>YOU are one of the people not putting pressure on lanes!
>they just say im crashing out
>we lose because they never did what i said

>>538407863
4 - 1 - web - 3 ?

>>538411254
I just mute all at the start of every match and do my best. Granted, my best isn't very good, but the game is very enjoyable without a russian yelling in my ear.

>>538410668
it's not ai it's very on-model. all of the parts of each person is there. victor's eye colors are right and his markings and wires. paige's hair/glasses/shoes/emblem.
the only thing off the top of my head is she has a plaid green skirt but maybe im wrong.

>>538411417
>without a russian yelling in my ear.
yuros do not interact with me

>>538410874
Mina...

Can Valve force the devs to just start calling Pocket a he so I can watch the official Reddit have a complete meltdown?

>>538411417
>but the game is very enjoyable without a russian yelling in my ear.
but that's the best part of this game you're not playing a slav simulator without the russians yelling at you you're not really playing the game.

>>538412038
valve should just say that pocket is a non binary who uses they/he pronouns to make everybody happy.

>>538411859
does anyone know that cuckquean artist that draws the flat-chested girlfriend getting cucked by the guy's blonde best friend? it's a string of consonants like cmk something

>>538412195
>literally a man
>had a marriage with a woman with thunder thighs
he might be the most hetero man on the entire roster
idk why trannies latched onto him so hard

>>538412120
I don't like being called a dog every game and I don't like their cyka blyating either.

I NEED cuckquean porn of Paige cucking Mina.

>>538412385
>has they pronouns in their bio
>pretended to die to get away from their fiance
>DURR THEY'RE HETERO MALE GUHHH

>>538412571
>pretend to die
didn't he actually die tho
also kys tranny

>>538404321
Anyone can unpause the game. These matches get long and sometimes you have to handle minor emergencies irl. Pauses are a gentleman's agreement not to fuck each other over. Only works in high trust societies.

Some of these team diffs are fucking BRUTAL. They really need to sort this shit out because any moba newfag is going to be on the opposing side of this a lot of the time.
Also for billyfags, vampire burst seems really, really fucking OP. More so for that extra sustain and mag dumps in chaotic teamfights. You just press a button and mow down the entire team if they don't insta cc you.

>>538412686
after 30seconds

>>538412841
they had a whole fucking year to fix the matchmaking
they had 3 whole months to fix it when the game had an actual playerbase
what makes you think they actually give a shit about this pisspoor public """beta"""
you'll be eating this slopshit of a matchmaking until release

>>538393128
Grey Talon's voice lines carry the character so hard right now. Can't wait to see his real model, but something tells me Valve wasn't expecting people to get attached to the wip grandpa model. They didn't learn from Ivy...

When I farm or push they group up to brool. When I join the brool they scatter. When I engage nobody follows. Make up your minds.

>>538412521
>>538412348
mncncr
https://exhentai.org/s/a5b0d05dbf/2168815-1

>>538413087
what if they make him a full on injun with matching clothing

>>538413087
They'll bring back his Mama Coco model as a skin.

>>538412571
No a negress tried to murder him, and he figured it was time to bounce with his frogs.

>>538412636
im a heterosexual male and dying is subjective in this game. if they're still around are they really dead?
mina could technically have died too then if she became a vampire.

>>538413229
wtf it's blank?

>>538413391
that's quite a strawman and you know it
you could argue that his pronoun is a they because of the frogs hidden in his suitcase
doesn't mo&krill have a they too?
never bothered to check bullshit like that

>if I don't play m1 carry I lose
>if I play m1 carry I win
>but I find m1 carry boring

>>538412571
But he didn't fake his death to get away from his fiancée. He faked his death to get away from the assassins someone in his family (presumably his father) sent after him. Mina's only connection isn't based on love anyways, it's based on becoming a Fairfax and going from generically rich and well-off to stupidly rich and influential. That's why she hates Pocket's guts, instead of some hot and cold romance schlock.

Hate wraith now, they ruined her. Nothing more than a towerbot.

>>538413550
mo & krill are multiple ppl and krill has mentioned mo's pronouns as he in several voicelines like when krill asks dynamo to get mo a pottery class to teach at the university. pocket is a singular person and only uses they. therefore their pronouns are THEY. i know it's hard for you to understand this even though you use singular they pronouns in your speech naturally every day.
>>538413694
yeah but it pisses this guy off so it's what actually happened. there's no connection between mina and pocket yet technically anyway. she doesn't reference fairfax.

>>538413275
His actual name is Wesley, so his updated model will probably have mostly regular clothing with some Native American motives.

>>538413945
what's pockets problem anyway? why does he want to be referred to as they? is he stupid? sorry...I mean is they stupid?

>>538413945
i ain't calling a single man a they
they is for a group of people
not a single man
they as in pocket and his ghost frog buddies
because calling a singular person a they is fucking retarded no matter how much of magical schizo you think yourself to be

>>538414120
they might be stupid. doesn't really matter. if you respect someone as a baseline human being you should call them what they want to be called by.
>>538414165
false. you use they to refer to singular people literally every day in your life unless you have nobody else you talk to which is probably the case since this matters so much to you.

why do you niggers care so much

>>538414408
they(you(he)) are(is) fucking retarded
fuck you

>>538414408
I don't respect pocket

>>538414165
"you" used to be exclusively plural too grandpa just play the damn video game

>>538412686
>These matches get long and sometimes you have to handle minor emergencies irl
I don't care, handle your shit before the match

>>538413945
Patron namedrops it. I thought it was in her backstory too, but I guess I'm wrong
>fair fact
this typo would trigger the fuck out of Mina, you just know it would

>>538414408
THE ONLY GOOD FAIRFAX IS A DEAD FAIRFAX FAGGOT
AND HIS CORPSE WILL REMAIN A MAN

>>538412385
To be fair, it was an arranged marriage, nothing to do with love.

>>538412841
>>538413068
there's nothing to fix in an inherent thing about random matchmaking
sometimes some player gets a really good game, sometimes some player gets a really bad one. it depends on so many things both inside and outside of the game.

>>538414673
BASED FAGGOT GOAT

>>538414515
ok(ok)
>>538414519
they are a billionaire's son so it makes sense
>>538414652
ok i'll give you that. she could maybe just might be possibly for a second have been momentarily engaged to a Fairfax TEMPORARILY.
i wanna see what the doorman would do if someone called the Baroness a motel instead of a hotel

>>538414908
they is silly and i refuse to lower myself to butcher the majestic english language to humor they

>>538414652
btw pocket is canonically they/them since even the patron says it
>Once you complete the ritual, Arin (Pocket) will realize *their* folly

>>538414908
Geist talks mad shit to doortards face, he wouldn't do shit

>>538415026
Patron just means both him and the sentient coat grooming him will both realize their collective folly

>>538414673
how'd they release a character that ppl actually hate more than Lash
>>538414978
>not using correct grammar on their post
>many many cases of singular they being used every second by people around them
>i don't wanna butch the english language
>>538415030
idk she barely talks shit on it, if someone called the place a motel i think he'd flip

>>538415226
that'd be the "Pocket" name but here the patron explicitly refers to Arin

>>538415327
>humorless troon

should have figured

>>538415419
I'm a heterosexual man and a lot of people find me funny. I'm also woke as fuck.

>>538413642
I just want to play Seven without him making the game baby tutorial mode easy. He's my main.......... and they NEED to nerf him.

>team brools
>loses every brool with number advantage
>flames you for playing lane janitor against 2-3 players while they lose every brool 5v3
>they get 0 objectives

>>538415583
ok billy

>>538415583
Going by your posts only 1 out of 3 facts are correct

just came back, why did they turn lash into a gay night club enthusiast.

>>538397792
You were right.

>>538415883
i don't need to prove anything you BUB
>>538415718
there might be something about billy's curse that forces him to make ppl hate him so i could see him being not-woke to woke ppl
>>538415940
to piss specifically you off

>create an evasive hero with a hidden identity as a reference to Puck being a genderless dragon
>held at gunpoint to never refer to them by male pronouns or the pronoun police will cancel your game

Mina needs a massive sledgehammer nerf to her sustain, she literally cannot die even with anti heal.

>>538412038
just ask yoshi

>>538414408
>what they want to be called by
I don't respect you as a baseline human. I respect you based on your actions and character. Demanding to be seen and treated as something you objectively are not is entitled, narcissistic and suggestive of potentially psychiatric delusions.

>>538416226
You have already proven yourself, just not in a way that you'd like to

>>538415026
>have you seen my SON
>i thought HE died
nope, still a dude, you can slit your own wrists sooner troon

>>538416447
it's just funny to waste your time im not trying to win anyone over here
>>538416431
>Demanding to be seen and treated as something you objectively are not
>pocket isn't a human
>>538416414
she doesn't have that much hp and she's only really getting health back from her 1. perhaps you cannot aim at her hard enough? she can slip loose a lot but after her bats are out she has nothing to do and you got 30 sec to go into her.

>>538416414
unironically just aim better
i bully her on mirage

>>538416867
neither of us are wasting time writing shit down in a few seconds, fuck you talking about

>>538416729
formerly he/him

*raises paw*

what if all of the pocket frogs are girls?

>>538417181
everytime you refresh the page your life is shortened just a lil bit more. you only get the time on this planet once and you wanna be hateful about a fake character online to people don't really give a shit.
me replying to you is making you spend more time typing out shit when you could be doing legitimately anything else.

I just realized that with the 6 new heroes, Lady Geist was dethroned as the oldest hero in the game. Now it goes:
>The Doorman > Drifter > Lady Geist > Grey Talon > everyone else

>>538417395
you know 4chanx exists right?
the little ! shows up and i know you ""wasted"" your time typing out a paragraph of shit
you got some issues nigga

>>538417435
>Lady Giest is as old if not older than Talon
Huh
HAG FUCKERS LETS GOOOO

>Venator's ult has an execute threshold
Oh god no

>>538417564
we all have issues here
>>538417594
>SHE'S ONLY 98 AND A 9/10THS YEARS OLD YOU SICK FUCK

>>538417435
You retard Vindicta is a ghost from 1300 or something

>>538417751
>venator
literally who

>>538417279
far as i can see he is still there, canonically? a dude refered as male also on the shop
>>538417395
nah, making troons like you mad is a duty, no time wasted in it. watching the cope is also hilarious

The level of polish for the new characters makes me wish they're overhaul the existing cast soon-ish too. There's a lot of things that trigger me like the nonsensical reload animations even if we ignore the unfinished models overall.

>>538417850
priest, ultimate switches his weapon to a 4 shot piercing crossbow that executes enemies if their HP is low enough

Don't play this game if you don't have a team.
Don't suffer. Find a hobby, be happy. Don't be a neet, learn something, educate yourself, spend time with your parents, find a girlfriend. You can do this. MOBA games are killing your dopamine receptors so you can't enjoy real life when you have games.

>>538418070
That sounds awfully similar to Grey Talon's 1 ability

>>538418070
>priest hero
>ultimate isn't a huge FUCK YOU from god itself
>it's a gay crossbow
lame

>>538418254
shills are gonna spam how cool the concept is just like with Infernus/Ivy/Doorman once he is released

Why the fuck do I keep recognizing names....I'm not even at high elo I'm ritualist 5

Anyone got a good Gunbrams build I could start to relearn the items? Haven't played since late last year. From what I read here and there melee kinda sucks in the current state of things.

I also saw a few builds called "Green Abrams", is that a meme or a real thing?

>>538418254
Priests don't have any special powers because they believe in stuff that cannot be proven to exist. If they actually got some powers from verifiable sources, they'd be sorcerers or warlocks.

>>538418414
who even thinks doorman looks cool aside from fags and the occasional 10 iq woman

>>538418254
its a priest, a crazy one apparently, not a paladin

>good hero is actually really bad! (please buff my main yoshi)
why do you people do this you are fooling no one

>>538418541
just pretend i posted that one emoji
your post deserves it

>>538418565
I think the concept if fine but the shilling is as organic as with the new hollow knight

>THEY TOOK OUT VIPER! (Thank God)
Lash is so funny

>>538418878
fair enough

>McGinnis is just shredding through all objectives
>Buy rusted barrel to see if that stops her
>It does nothing
Idk what to do.

I love flowchart retards so much.
>play seven
>no one on the enemy team buys knockdown or silence
>I get to freely fly around in my ult
>forcing the whole enemy team into hiding

>>538418194
I have a gf and love being a 26 year old NEET

>>538418729
ivy is so weak plzzzzz buffffff

>>538415026
they/them/their has been used to refer to individuals since forever but leftist nonsense + right-wing knee jerk reaction to cultural war bullshit has completely ruined this part of the english language and now every time anyone sees it used they have a fit

Is pockets ult just giga nerfed? It used to be like my favorite ability but nowadays I use it and it just does nothing

>>538419006
>Why is my t1 item failing to fully invalidate the enemy player?
Have you tried spending more money so you can actually disarm her instead of mildly inconveniencing her?

>>538419178
Mina isn't your gf

>>538418414
time for your meds

>>538417821
Oh, right, I forgot about Vindicta.
>1300 or something
The Salem Witch Trials were in 1692-1693. In this case, I'm actually not sure if he is older than Vindicta.

>enemy is 5 man deathballing
>but your team is so retarded that their macro is somehow worse
>deathball casually wanders around while nobody counter pressures

>Select Mama Coco
>"Brake lines won't cut themselves"

What the FUCK, grandma???

>>538419751
SAAAAR

I love healbane
I love decay
I love putting Victors who think they're invincible in their place

nerf victor nerf victor nerf victor nerf victor

>>538419782
Talon? he's like 70, not 100+. Dynamo might be pretty close in age depending on when he lost his body too.

>>538420240
No, Drifter. Sorry, I got so caught up in my thought process that I forgot to type the name.

Could someone here please provide the map files in a way that will work in Blender, or point to a download? (Don't have to provide it in a .blend, just indicating what extension would work to import the provided files would be fine.)

Deadlock is fun.

>>538418229
>weapon damage
>fixed ammo count, replaces your gun
>not charge based
>goes on a large cooldown after you put the crossbow away
closer to vindicta but it's different enough imo

I don't think I've even seen anyone use this item.

>>538420524
leavers aren't fun

>>538420187
victor only has a 47% winrate thobeit

>>538420385
Vindicta is effectively younger than grey talon because she didn't come back as a ghost for 200 years

>>538420784
shitlow makes it 100% winrate

>>538419782
>>538417821
if for some reason deadlock takes place in 2025 then vindicta is older but if it takes place in 1920 then drifter might have her beat
>>538419036
>team refuses to buy healbane
>team refuses to buy knockdown/silence
>team refuses to buy spirit resist
>team refuses to buy bullet resist

>>538420590
shitlow type post

>>538419357
You seem to be the only one having a fit

spirit builds kind of ass ngl.
unless it's a burst character, like pocket lash mina...

>>538421286
>spirit is kind a ass
>unless it isn't
bravo
spirit resist is useless because of retards like you

im arcanist

>>538421489
so you think every spirit ability is high burst?

>>538421718
name 1 spirit ability that is used for dps
if you say wraith 3 or seven 3 i will fuck you

>>538421265
you're right, I'm the one making the constant posts about pocket's identity based on one or two voicelines every other thread. people saying its a good thing? me. people saying valve is woke? also me. its all me.

>>538421836
mini turret, kudzu, essence bomb?

>>538421049
those items ruin my build

>>538420141
>presses 2
your response?

>>538421912
>essence bomb
>not burst
mini turret is annoying as it is and you only say it's bad because gun mcniggis is broken as fuck
>huge fuck off aoe that slows
>weeeh why isn't it melting people in 2 seconds

>>538421836
infernus 3

>>538422168
>build full gun
>still does fuck you tiers of damage
not exactly an argument for spirit being weak innit

>spirit Victor
>spirit Infernus
>spirit Paige
>spirit Ivy
>bad
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

How do you counter Vindicta?

>>538422312
>warp stones away

>>538422358
knockdown

>>538422413
>holds W

>>538422305
the argument ppl were doing with you rn was DPS not BURST
infernus will do 70% of your hp but over 4 sec after he stops shooting you from his 3 with his full spirit build.
BURST is when the damage comes out all at once ala mina/GT/Vindicta ult

I can only play Unga, Team Bunga characters like Abrams and Mo. Whenever I try to play a gun character I get raped by the enemy Warden. How do m1 characters work?

>>538422563
I went up

>>538422720
It is burst disguised as dps

>>538422997
I loved my mouse while holding W.

>>538422826
>How do m1 characters work?
here's what u do
queue infernus/seven
shoot ppl in the head
stay back
don't let them hit you
don't be bad
you're going in and being bad
when you feel like "OUUUUU I NEED TO GO IIIIINN" stop yourself and don't
just get souls and plonk ppl in the head
if you're engaging a fight when they're above 20% you're fucking up
>but they're never gonna be that low
they will eventually just farm souls. focus on headshots on minions, focus on having a few bullets left when minions die to secure souls.
shoot everything in the head.

>>538422826
If you don't kill the enemy in 3 seconds then you use one of your guaranteed escape options that all m1 characters have to fuck off and farm until you have a 10k advantage

>>538419724
There a way I can reduce it to it having no cooldown whatsoever so her gun is permanently disabled?

>>538423016
you're the fucking reason why osrs ppl say afk but they mean not needing to click for 5 seconds
BURST is damage applied instantly
DPS is damage over a few seconds
>>538423317
just kill her lmao why are you letting her get farm on you? focus on destroying her turrets so she never gets them built up

i can see myself playing this game more when it has missions like marvel rivals or something to grind for instead of only ranked
i'm not a mega casual but i also don't want to tryhard every match and have russians scream and throw constantly

>>538423417
I'm literally in the endgame and she has so much lifestyle and fire rate that I can't kill her fast enough.

>>538423417
>dps happens over 3 seconds
>does 1k damage
it's bps(burst per second)

It's thematically pleasing how Pocket and Mina mutually hard counter eachother

>>538420590
Every setup character buys this

>>538423450
>wanting dailies to grind
Are you stupid? Those are the most anti-fun mechanic in any game

>>538423494
you need to shut her down at the start. endgame you can get juggernaught/plated armor and tons of other fire rate slow if it's such a big problem but she shouldn't be an issue
>>538423450
have you thought of making friends to play with instead of playing alone and also stop being european

>>538422358
She's the worst character in the game
Also debuff remover

>>538423317
curse + disarm hex + T4 CDR + duration extender

>>538418468 I'll give a quick list starting from cheapest to expensive

>Damage items
Close quarters, headshot booster, restorative shot, opening rounds are all good early lane options. Mid game you'll want kinetic dash and or hunters aura. Be sure to upgrade the previous item as headshot booster goes into headhunter and close quarters to point blank. For late damage items frenzy is good and some players swear by weighted shot but I don't really like it.
>healing items
Early game extra regen, extra stam, sprint boots reactive barrier, battle vest

Mid game enduring speed, debuff reducer/debuff remover and fortitude.

late game juggernaut, plated armor, spell breaker

>Spirit items
I'm not gonna lie I don't really get many of these items and the ones I do are melee items which I exuded in the other categories because It seems like you don't wanna mess with the melee system. I still think melee is useful its just something you don't spam like a ape.
So uhhh cold front and like radiant regen. upgrade to artic blast late game. Honestly experiment in this department if you really don't wanna do any melee and figure out what you can do.

>>538423917
>Spending that much money just to prevent one player from having fun.
Kinda based

>>538423510
>burst per second
this has to be bait or the most retarded post of the year

>>538423494
don't 1v1 a competent McG. Only ever fight her with man advantage or if swhe's on every cooldown. Otherwise, you have to respect her territory and avoid. If she's splitting a lane you have to just break the wave and then poke at her. She can't do shit outside of barrage range

>>538422720
>mina ult
>damage comes out all at once

>>538424049
If there's only one person on the enemy team that's doing anything, your team should be fucking them with actives nonstop so they can't play

>>538418194
Waste of time.

>haze is very obviously using a HE keyboard with snapping enabled and a toggle aimbot
>report her
>banned in before the game even ends
Does Valve actually care now?

>>538424029
I forgot warpstone for green items

>>538424250
i said vindicta ult not mina ult. mina and gt have burst regular abilities

>>538418194
You don't even need a full stack just having one or two friends is enough to tilt games in your favor via basic teamwork

>play Haze
>follow "zergy" build
>lose
>make my own build with tesla rounds, ricochet, ability range, and ability cooldown
>win
Huh...

Sometimes feels like this thread is run by bots.

>>538424695
(((You))) are the bots, anon.

>>538424049
>lose 6 matches to a split-pushing vyper
>all he does is shred a lane up, and then any time you fight him he bolas you and then debuff removers out to safety
>get fucking sick of it
>craft a specially curated build to specifically remove this one vyper from the game
>curse, disarm hex, greater duration, echo shard spectral wall
>all I do is park on the shortest lane, don't push, and wait
>he shows up
>wall the wave
>he waits
>wall the wave again
>he keeps waiting
>curse him
>he keeps waiting
>disarm hex
>he debuff removers it
>use a third wall as it comes off cooldown
>he gives up and leaves
>I haven't lost a game against him ever since

true story

>>538425143
the monday of death

Man, this game is fun. If only I didn't suck ass at it.

Behold; the most useless stat in the game

>>538425143
cold front did this btw

>>538424678
Zergy is an ADHD british guy that floods the public builds page with dogshit to troll

>>538422146
>>538423016
what a coping retard.

>>538425464
>12 deaths
Literally stop walking into enemies holy shit dude

>>538425474
>tfw i use the sound in this game a LOT to locate ppl
this probably goes hard with veil and not clearing camps

>>538425907
4 of your teammates had 0 objective damage and while it was noble of you to attempt to equalize that you likely overcompensated by dying for walkers leaving your team without a proper frontliner for a full quarter of the match

>>538425907
But that's the whole point of Victor, no? My problem isn't that I'm walking into enemies (although there were a few cases in that match where I could have picked my fights a little better), but that I can hardly ever 1v1 anyone. Almost every other player seems to know something about combat in Deadlock that I don't.

>>538426207
>get used to an OP character
>suddenly character is not OP any more
>"these people know something about combat in Deadlock that I don't"

Bitch play better.

>>538426382
>>get used to an OP character
Anon, it doesn't matter who I play. It was always like this. I never got to get used to Victor.

Is my Shiv build ass or is Shiv just garbage

>>538419357
Nah, you know exactly who uses this lingo and why, disingenuous fuck

>>538426176
jesus, i didn't see that. 4 people doing 0 objective damage is so, so much worse than 1 guy feeding kills, unless he's dropping fat bags every time. i know how to win a game with a feeder. no idea how to win a game with overly passive do-nothing-deadlockers

>>538426382
Also,
>Bitch play better.
How? I've been playing Deadlock for 340 hours now. When do I get to start playing better?

>>538426591
You're ass somewhere in your gameplay and gameplan then. Review your matches and figure it out.

>>538420590
It's good.

>>538426207
Are you initiate ranked?
If so: initiate is currently 99% returning players and smurfs.
They literally do know stuff you don't.

>>538422014
uhmm, reapply? It's that easy. Whenever im agains Victor i pick healbane early and kill him before he has his ult.

>>538426889
I'm one of the returning players, though.

fuck is there any way to make clearing the jungle less of a hassle as Lash? It feels like I can only conveniently do it when cold front is up compared to Ivy where I just melt everything

>>538427307
You have 2 aoe abilities

>>538427307
Nigga buy trophy hunter and go to the frontlines

>>538427307
move around and get crates/jars/slot machines if you really have downtime but otherwise you're soaking in lane and harassing looking to get picks

>>538427404
before tank buster they dont do shit

>>538427307
why clear jungle when you can clear enemy team?
i swear to god zoomers these days

>>538424029
Thanks a lot for the detailed reply.

>>538426889
>Are you initiate ranked?
Why did Yoshi think this was a healthy rank distribution?

>>538423290
what does your rancid breath smell like dude

>>538427791
spoiled geist breastmilk

>>538427780
Looks normal to me
>Initiates aka people who tried the game and stopped have the most
>Top end is dead
the only weird thing is eternus 6 having more than the rest of eternus

>>538424029
How is this a gun build when most things are defense options? You will have no firerate, no damage, nd will spend 90% time reloading. This is just another tank build.

vindicta is a fucking troll pick

>win game
>least amount of player dmg on my team by a lot
>lose game
>almost all my fault
Can't the MMR algorithm see I'm getting fucking CARRIED and stop making me climb ranks after a game that might as well have been won without me? I'm almost Emissary now and I play like I have cerebral palsy make it fucking STOP.

>>538428260
It looks like "moba players and people who stuck it out from release" vs "non-moba players" to me. Valve needs to make proper tutorials for how to play the game badly, not everyone sold their childhood to League of Legends/Dota

>>538428267
NTA but kinetic dash provides both ammo boost + firerate. intensifying mag is also a decent pickup with it.

>>538428462
imo it's easier to get into this game as an FPS player learning moba than a moba player who also has to learn fps

>>538426610
He got nerfed into the ground.

What's with the zoomer's obsession with matchmaking systems in team based competetive games being "rigged"? No such thing as fair fights kid. You're always the underdog. Go prove yourself.

>>538429168
i'm tired of proving myself, boss. I just want 3 out of my 6 teammates to keep an eye on lanes, that's all. counting myself. so 2. I just want 2 teammates who watch the lanes.

>>538396794
it's called backtrack and it's used a fuckton in counterstrike cheats, it's literally as simple as setting your ping something stupid and shooting where the enemy was a second ago
no idea how it works in source 2 but i cannae imagine it's changed much

>>538428773
I'm more of a mercurial mag + titanic mag fan myself, but I should try intensifying instead of power surge maybe

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ga9nMjigPWs
>They took out Druid
>They took out Fortuna
>They took out Graff
>They took out Incubus
>They took out Venator
>They took out Sucubbus
>They took out Swan
>They took out Skyrunner
How many of these are upcoming and how many of these are dead in the water?

>>538428267
You should be spamming the fuck outta kinetic dash, and it doesn't take many shots to actually melt people in kissing range. The defense options are so you can actually get close without dying. at least try out before judging anon

>>538429703
I getcha, and that is why I play support. I feel every teammate I get plays extremely aggro or tries to solo carry so I focus my builds in aid or healing in order to be able to have better odds in team fights.

>>538428260
the game isn't actually setting up eternus average matches. If you reach eternus 1, you're just going to be thrown into oracle/phantom matches. So you end up performing well, and then you rank up more than you rank down. So you end up getting funneled upwards into E6 because most of your matches are not against opponents of your skill level.

>>538429168
>What's with the zoomer's obsession with matchmaking systems in team based competetive games being "rigged"?
Because streamers and pros tell them it's rigged

>mina ult spam on objectives
this is actually retarded

>when I quit you could build Haze as either Gun M1 spam or Hybrid Ult/Dagger
>now she's ONLY Gun M1 and really only viable if you're part of the "aiming community" or a 12 year old with ADHD macro-dosing on legal speed
But why though?

>>538430574
It's one of the few situations you even want to use ult as Mina

>>538430574
just curse her?

>>538430673
>>538430687
im playing mina btw

>>538430607
>dagger
dagger haze has always been a meme nigga
ult haze really is dead in the water though.

>>538429168
Unironically blame the china men, anyone complaining about rigged matches is outing themselves as marvel rivals player because they had a huge shit fit over EOMM so they think every comp game has it now.

>>538430687
>sub 60 second cooldown on nostra by the start of the midgame
>one of the most slippery kits in the game for split-pushing
>just farm curse throughout the midgame and then always counter-rotate to mina when she's pushing
>and make sure you have enough vertical height to actually reach her with curse, or go farm for greater expansion
>sub 60 second cooldown btw
>the moment you arent able to curse her the walker is dead
>she can position anywhere around the walker arbitrarily easy

is radiant regen actually a good healing item
I try it on victor and it seems to heal sometimes on par with infuser itself and more than pain battery via stats

>>538431079
>the moment you arent able to curse her the walker is dead
so just like Seven and Warden

>>538431079
I love playing rat Mina in shitlow

>>538430476
In that case I need to spam this pic more often.

>>538430904
I actually played MR for a while, I did not know that meme is actually where it started off from. It went from cheaters, to blaming your teammates, to blaming the matchmaking. The bad player is never them, ain't it.

>>538431208
the difference is you can actually pin down seven and warden prior to their ults going off and prior to them getting close to the walker

>>538430574
Mina's ult isn't that bad, though? It's more of a scare that something actually dangerous (although still more dangerous that Drifter's ult).

>Say nothing all game
>We lose
>Get called a little rat by the raging Wraith at the end of the game
what caused this

>>538431673
Hate for rats, probably.

>>538431673
Your wraith or the other teams? either way really funny lmao

>>538431848
Do people who win also rage? If they are that mad at the game why don't they do something they enjoy and have fun instead?

>>538431848
other team

>>538429876
Defense is for casuls, just kill the enemy before it kills you. It will unironically ruin your games, you're exchanging team impact for the glorious ability to die in 1 second instead of 0,5 seconds. Also i just don't like kinetic dash, I just don't know how to fit it or any stam items in my build and still have the space for counteritems.
Shit I should update and post my build here some day.

Green Abrams?

>>538431437
Most rivals players are brown teenagers now. Its not like they have the self awareness to understand why they are losing games. I am retvrning to deadlock because I have nigger fatigue.

>Every game is a coinflip whether or not Seven gets fed
Icefraud please delete this nigger from the game NOW

>>538431079
Have you tried not letting wave get pushed up like a retard

>>538432637
>have 2 people in lane
>seven uses his only peel on one
>the other pushes and kills him
this confuses the initiate

>Have Seven the nigger skeleton in lane
>He bullies your retard Abrams and Billy
>Gets 20 kills and takes a diarrhea dump on the game
>"If you dislike this 55% winrate hero YOU ARE GAY"
Astonishing.

>>538432637
Uhhh no dude we need to nerf Haze and Vindicta

Seven's electricity sounds are so juicy.
https://files.catbox.moe/w1ynb5.mp3
https://files.catbox.moe/kejlr6.mp3
https://files.catbox.moe/4nlibp.mp3
https://files.catbox.moe/qs8x3k.mp3
I think he might be my favorite electric character in any video game.

why does lane phase exist if you can catch up from a brutal stomp in 2 minutes of farming

>>538429805
none are dead in the water yet because they're recording lines for them, but at the same time only venator is far enough along that he's guaranteed upcoming

>>538433181
his voice is very nice

>>538433131
walk away from this…it won’t get better…

>>538433235
It's just a patience check that 90% of the playerbase fails, losing lane only matters if you're a brooltard and keep holding W

>>538433320
Love how he talks like an autist who just learned the definition of "pawn" and "apotheosis" 5 minutes ago

>middle lane complains about calico missing despite green lane calling it
>start spamming calico is missing all game
>thats our comms all game
lol

>>538432110
>Defense is for casuls
Ok
> Also i just don't like kinetic dash, I just don't know how to fit it or any stam items in my build

You don't like air dashing or jump dashing across the map at Mach five? half the fun in this game is the movement. Well please do post your build I'm more than open to ideas

>>538429168
I just don't want it at all. Get me in a match as soon as possible. If I cared about getting steamroller or not, I'd play a comp mode. Just let me play the game.

>i keep forgetting how much that STINGS!
>says this line 50 times a match
does our boy have dementia?

>>538434285
He's a stitched corpse, so probably.

>>538432340
I'm sorry anon that's a meme from when the new heroes were leaked a while back lol

Speaking of Seven, when did they give him mobility during his ultimate?

>>538432350
>Most rivals players are brown teenagers now
NOW? That game's been like that since it came out

>>538434285
>i keep forgetting how much that STINKS!
https://streamable.com/jl8e1s

>>538428358
>finally get a game where we're getting stomped after a winning streak, I'll be able to derank now...
>two people on the enemy team disconnect
>win the game

>Get put against Viscous/Victor
>Wraith with me does 0 damage and goes 0/10
Closest this game has tempted me to spam slurs.
Useless hero

>>538430858
Why would they do that though?
Why turn her into an aimbot-required character?
What's the fucking point?

>>538434091
I do like it, but I literally never have enough slots to fill it or sup stam in. I'll need to post it once Im back from work

How do I play Calico without feeling like I am a dead weight that should just be playing drifter or haze instead?

I love how everyone in game continues to complain about Drifter and Victor but will constantly fucking downplay how strong Infernus STILL is.

>Duration Extender Metal Skin
>Haze follows me trying to wait it out and gets jumped
Funny stuff

>>538431128
It's bad on victor. It gives delayed healing, and your only ability (aura) that can trigger it reliably also damages you and requires to stick in the mmiddle of combat where you will take even more damage.
It's good on people who can reliably deal spirit dmg from distance (mina/mirage for an example) or who have early AoE (geist, MoKrill, and elsser extent kelvin). Some characters like geist also want it for the tier 3 upgrade rush.

Characters like Victor want heal that triggers from nonheroes.

>15k player peak
hahahaha fucking queerlock deadtards

>>538436730
better than overtranny 2 and nignog rivals doebeit

>>538432350
You get rusniggers here instead, its the same shit

>>538437069
I will take white russaryans over niggers and americans any day

>>538418541
you should kill yourself

cool game

>>538436730
math is hard

>>538437612
Nah you fucking dont, ruskies are just as dumb as they are prone to raging and complaints. You will hear their subhuman screech nonstop only for the cunt to go afk in fountain or smth. Snowniggers, real niggers, there's no difference.

>>538430607
what went wrong with scrubs that they can't just say "wow that guy has good aim" but instead they need cope like "you're an aimlabs rat!!" and "you goddamn fucking aiming community troll!"?
this shit is so weird. why is it so hard to face your own shortcomings and acknowledge you have worse aim than the average person?

theres no point playing this game until drifter and seven are dumpstered

what geist build do i use?

>>538438446
It gets worse. Anon is so brain rotten he looked at the Twitch Stats as the measure of game health.

>>538435550
Because it's not hard to aim in this game, like at all. Plus having a hero that mainly just shoots their gun is a quintessential character design in both shooters and MOBAs. Look at Sniper in Dota, or McCree in Overwatch.

Shiv fucks
>crouch slide shooting for good distance
>fast as fuck boy
>1 for projective
>2 for attack closer + attack getaway
>3 for resistance buff
>4 for kill confirmed
>sonic poses while he does it
>gilf connoisseur
>always fun to use whether going for speed build, high fire rate, glass cannon, and/or all of the above

>>538436717
Radiant Regen is only good on Geist, because she is the only hero in the game that spends life for every spell she casts. Mystic Regen is debatable only on Mirage. Upgrading into Radiant Regen on any hero is the ultimate noob trap, it's such a huge waste of souls. Need healing from spell usage in a fight? Buy spirit lifesteal, it's half the price and 10x as effective

>6 minute queue time and counting to play a first game on mina
hello game?

>>538438446
I still don't get why people pull up the numbers for this game
It's in alpha
It's technically not even announced yet
And there's no progression, monetization, or the slightest bit of incentive to keep playing besides playing for the love of the game
And yet it still has thousands of people playing

>>538439707
>queue as the state mandated loss agent
naturally you need to wait for the right target

>>538435550
Because someone ought to fill that niche. If you don't like it, there's other gun heroes with more depth to them like Infernus and Wraith, so I'm not sure why you would be so loyal to Haze if she's clearly not what you want

>>538439725
>It's technically not even announced yet
"Release Date To Be Announce" means they didn't announce the release date, not that the game itself is not announced. I have no idea how the hell you made that mistake.

>>538439171
I fucking hate Shiv and I also love him. I still think that a character that plays with health in percentages, for both himself and the enemy, is completely absurd design that is impossible to balance, but he's still fun to play for some reason I cannot pinpoint.

>>538433320
>>538433726
>discovered he's nye immortal
>hides in the streets of new york while high off his own farts
>talks down to wagies (miku)
the definition of based, he deserves his own "Meet the" vid

>>538439725
People here take this game seriously, thats why

>>538425474
it's actually really useful if you play Drifter the way he was intended to

>>538440102
Because afaik there hasn't been an official announcement by Valve regarding the game's existence
It just sort of sprung up one day and word of mouth did its thing
Unless there was an actual announcement and I just missed it

>>538440547
game awards reveal

>got doorman ulted 9 times game

Goddammit DOORFUCK, I don't want to go to your SHITTY hotel.

>>538440646
It will get a steam banner upon official release and a youtube promo video and thats it

>>538440646
valve wouldn't waste time revealing it at that shitty event

>>538440652
The Phantom, exterior like fish eggs
The interior like suicide-wrist red
I can exercise you, this can be your Phys. Ed
Cheat on your man-

The insistence that Deadlock is acktually fully released is quite strange.

>>538440652
But he has such a wonderful room for two

>>538436717
but you can trigger the active component almost every time you use pain battery/jumpstart, and it makes you even faster to keep people in your fart cloud

>>538440646
Where?

>>538440185
hes the closest thing Im getting to an armored core 7, vanquish 2 and anarchy reigns 2

>>538441036
>anarchy reigns 2
Motherfuckers should put that shit on PC yesterday ffs

Does Vyper just suck?
>Enemy vyper split pushing
>go meet her
>she is doing her hardest to slither around and shoot me
>I just stand still and track her
>evaporate her while standing still
Is the slide an ability or are they manually having to hold ctrl to slide around?

>>538440857
>acktually
but yes it is, probably the same shiposters, that got confirmed to be troons, that spam the same nitpicks over and over again

>every match is just drifter holding m1 and assraping 6 players at once at mach speed
i thought this was supposed to be a 1v1 character, why is his m1 enough to teamwipe solo

>>538441148
for vyper you have to hold ctrl down, it's extremely retarded and awkward so she used to do extreme damage to compensate but people cried about it so they made her suck ass

>>538440185
>>538441036
What about his design? Is the half man half monkey look he is rocking endearing or awful?

>>538431128
it is good and specially early, there's a reason it was reworked to only work with boons (it's still really good early)

>>538441036
What about pic related?

>>538440652
>Billy comes in to ult us
>Send him to the hotel every time, almost ulting him on cooldown
>He starts bitching 30 minutes in
Genuinely never gets old.

>pick doorman
>turns out to be Kaolin

icefrog never forgotten lvl 3 ES pushing people into towers

>>538396097
secret iaido technique, obviously

>>538441148
She is both weak and physically annoying to play.
Her kit just needs to be redone.

>>538429805
i hope druid has a cool bear

>>538441786
How do you fix Vyper while preserving the core idea of a sliding focused character?

>>538429805
>Incubus
Another hot guy hero while girls remain ugly sigh

>>538429805
Succubus if Cadence please

>>538441919
Make sliding not annoying to do for 30 minutes straight every few seconds

>>538441919
Instead of stamina bars, give her one big stamina meter and you can slither as long as you have stamina.

>>538425464
>0 obj damage on sinclair
Holy shit that's one of the worst players I've ever seen. What a fucking disgrace to the magician's character.

How does 0 object damage even happen? How do you never once accidentally graze a walker with a bullet?

>>538442745

it's basically
>get completely owned in lane
>keep coming back to lane like and keep getting owned
>lose
the end

>>538434604
when you upgrade it to level 3

>>538442745
Never a good spot to push.

>>538443085
You have to make a good spot to push, and you should be getting objective damage during lane. If you end up with 0 objective damage you are actually dogshit

>>538442745
>pwned in lane
>starts playing defensively waiting for minions to come near walker
>...even when the lane opponent is no longer there
>...even when the lane opponent is visibly in other lanes ganking and brooling
>lose game

>>538441036
>vanquish 2
Game's too slow for this, we need movement buffs across the board

>>538441576
So no head?

>>538443193
>You have to make a good spot to push
Some heroes don't really do that well, especially if you're losing. If you lose a lane it's easy to go 0 damage, especially if nobody helps your lane to shove the tower

debuff spreader Viscous with Tesla Bullets

>>538443354
>team is fighting on the other side of the map while you're in a lane by yourself
>push the lane
damn you can do this on every hero in the game

Why does Victor’s ass look so heavy

>>538443449
Yeah and sometimes you're in the team that is fighting on the other side of the map, rather than being in a lane by yourself.

>>538443250
>Buckbroken in lane
>Never cross the map line again
Such Many Cases

>>538441985
We've seen what happens once a conventionally hot girl is added with Mina, fuck that, playerbase got significantly worse

>>538443550
>fighting instead of splitting when you're behind
wrapping back around to being dogshit here

>finally learning to buy counter items instead of 100% flowcharting builds
AGHHHHHH, I'M DOING IT, I'M THINKING, I'M THINKINGGGGG

>>538443460
Makes the STINK worth it

>>538443598
I personally think paige is hotter

>>538443628
Alright, so you go push a lane without fighting and... your opponents that are ahead show up to stop you.

>>538443647
me when i buy disarm against a farmed haze
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3q1UTRKow0

>>538443659
She's a fucking cringe elemental lmao, Mina at least has the sexual appeal going for her, Paige is Mina but worse, her design even targets the same kind of degens.

>>538443717
and you get objective damage or possibly an entire building, advancing the gamestate for your team towards victory and gaining slots for items. if you use your eyes, you can even leave, and attracting enemies gives your team the opportunity to also push a lane whether you die or not
you're dogshit

>>538443717
Being able to identify roughly how much time you have and what are the chances the missing enemies will show up in your lane is an incredibly good macro skill to have. Under the assumption that the enemy team will try to fix a pushed lane, you can estimate from last seen position and death timers when a push will be a walker versus feeding the infernus another kill

>>538443825
how would you get that when your opponents stop you before you even get to the walker

>>538443907
>Being able to identify roughly how much time you have and what are the chances the missing enemies will show up in your lane is an incredibly good macro skill to have
No shit, and sometimes you have precisely 0 of that. Especially with heroes with no escape tools since you're just feeding if you go to scrape the walker

>>538443647
Now start buying Counterspell in every game and you will ascend

>>538444000
>You should never push a lane on the off-chance someone on the enemy team MIGHT come and stop you
People in eternus will suicide for walkers or guardians all the time. You're dogshit.

>>538444000
If you have precisely 0 of that you are putting precisely 0 pressure on the enemy team and it's you and your team's job to do that if you wanna win

>>538444061
Yes, if they get it. They don't suicide for a shred of objective damage because that's not worth it.

>>538434495
wait, we got 6 heroes, so who did we get that's not there?
>paige = bookworm
>doorman = doorman
>drifter = drifter
>victor = frank
>mina = vampirebat
>billy = ?
also there's 14 heroes there in the labs, 14-6=8, which is the projected amount left over.

>>538444136
I'm sorry that you're going to be hardstuck in shitlow forever because you are terrified to do anything that actually helps your team win the game.

there is zero excuse to have 0 objective damage

>>538444185
use your eyes next time anon. see the one that says "punkgoat"?

>>538425474
>procceeds to sneak up on you and skullfuck you with a crushing fist charged melee while busy farming sinners sacrifice

>>538444105
No shit, and sometimes you have none of that and you lose. Trying to solo force it is rarely worth it.

>>538444242
I'm glad you're projecting but you should try something else for a change.

>>538444270
shit I'm stupid. the shiv icon was overwriting the words in my brain.

Please tell me what characters are good for people who suck

>>538443804
>she sleeps you and waits it out
>or she debuff removes it
what now???

>>538444360
Geist 2nds skill

>>538444351
He is rather handsome

>>538444360
seven, warden

>>538425482
Why does every fucking build have buy it now? Is it couse they nerfed torment pulse too hard?

Buff Shiv

>half-a-gigabyte update
>no patch notes
anyone got a QRD or intel?

>>538434495
>Boho
have never heard of her before in my entire life. Looks fuckable though

>>538444578
also give him a melee weapon, the guys influenced by scout in the same way warden is with soldier

>>538444650
she's gonna be the old lady character

>>538444689
press q

>>538426610
He is absolutely garbage rn
The only halfway decent build for him was going melee with maxed out debuff resist but the last major patch removed the ability to resist the stun from a parry so now you get stunned for the full duration no matter what and also take bonus damage from all sources

>>538444578
He was just buffed. And that scares me.

What was the update?

The black wοman of Valve unοriginality.
These are TWΟ different characters.

>>538444481
Lady Geist?

>>538444797
Just how powerful he was to get nerfed this hard?

>>538444989
one of the few heroes that could 1v6 at their prime

>1/10 haze gets carried by smurf talon
COME OOOOON

>>538444930
draft in 2 more weeks trust the plan .

>>538443917
you look at the map to see if 4-5 enemies are visible and/or dead, you test the waters with a few shove to gauge their reaction to your push, you wait for a fight to pop off elsewhere, etc

>>538444797
I came back after not playing for 1 year
Did they also nerf his alternate fire? I remember people doing some cool moves with that

>>538445101
and sometimes these things don't happen

>>538444940
>These are TWΟ different characters.
Yet to be disproven.

>>538445201
your team doesn't get into fights with 4-5 enemy players? ever? sounds like you're a coping nigger or just disingenuous and retarded

i miss 4 lanes bros, those corner fights for the watchers were fun

the single lane doesnt do justice

>>538393128
the wagie is less than the insect

>>538444689
No no, Lash is Soldier, Warden is Heavy

>>538444989
At release you could just build him around spirit damage and you could still gun down people, not that you needed to, since his knives did more initial damage than the whole duration does rn. Also his dash used to have HUNDRED base damage. His ult used to have like 20 meter range on it and don't quote me on it but I swear to god his passive used to let him heal 100% of the deffered damage on like 20 sec cooldown. Also lifesteal used to be way more broken back in the day and stacked 100%.
Before the melee nerf I was able to legit 1v6 on account on being tanky and not really caring much about getting parried.

>>538445147
Only nerfed the damage as far as I know. Also they nerfed express shot purely because of his alt fire Im almost completely certain of it.

>>538445031
>>538445895
Sounds like laning phase was also misery against him if the knife was that powerful. Still currently it doesn't feel like he does much at all.