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Season 6 - 葬花吟 [Zàng Huā Yín]
2025.05.15 —

Mirror Dungeon #6 - Mirror of Immortality
2025.07.03 —

Refraction Railway Line 5 - Merry Go Round
2025.02.20 —

>Current Events

2025.10.23 — 2025.11.20
Chapter 6.5 Murder on the WARP Express BokGak

>Current Extractions

2025.10.23 — 2025.11.06
[000] The Prince of La Manchaland Meursault
[000] W Corp. L4 Cleanup Agent - CCA Heathcliff

2025.10.23 — 2025.11.06
Target Extraction: [ WARP CORP ] ID & E.G.O

>FAQs
! This game is directly tied to the setting of Project Moon's previous games, Lobotomy Corporation and Library of Ruina, and is set after both. Expect spoilers for those games in this thread.
! The tutorial is important.

>Download links
AppStore: https://apps.apple.com/app/limbus-company/id6444112366
Google Play: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ProjectMoon.LimbusCompany
Steam: https://store.steampowered.com/app/1973530/Limbus_Company/

>Other links
Official twitter: https://twitter.com/limbuscompany_b
Official youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@ProjectMoonOfficial
Official site: https://limbuscompany.global

>Required reading
https://mega.nz/folder/xosDkZ5Z#Wt4JpUt5Bb2XG77pxuuXpw

>For all your EGO and Sinner info needs
https://limbus.kusoge.xyz/
https://gll-fun.com/en/

>Useful resources and a general guide
https://rentry.org/lcg_resources
https://rentry.org/lcbguide
https://rentry.org/LCB_optimal_grind_guide
https://lcb-days-since-last-id.carrd.co/
https://lcb-days-since-last-ego.carrd.co/

>Countdown
https://lcbcountdown.carrd.co/

Is this your Faust, Dante?

I love my limbfamily

>>544055057 (OP)
Can't wait for Canto 20 where we fight the giga Outskirts AI that the Head sent there cause they were afraid of it and it's called "IM".

>>544055057 (OP)
Happy Halloween?..
>>544055190
...sometimes.

>>544055057 (OP)
https://poal.me/jb9kt9
https://poal.me/alc6qr
unironically forbidden by the head rightfully

>>544055190
No, this is.

Sinclair!

>>544055413
>tfw forgot to save the version with a quote several years ago

>>544055375
I liked the show, but then a power outage (common occurance back then) cucked me out of the ending
I was like 7 years old when it happened

The only remotely good Limbus OC I've seen so far was that Index member that was implied to be a wing experiment in the EGO

Post canon.

Sinners of last 5 digits (Add +1 if it is duplicated; 0 counts as 10) are stuck with AM.
How would they fare?

>>544055963
Would Don (both pre and post canto) see AM as a villain?

>>544055963
>Don
>Hong Lu
>Rodya
>Meursault
>Heathcliff (?)
Zero active braincells; they're fucked
>>544056038

>>544056130
...Yes?
Do you know what that fucked up supercomputer does?
Hint, its in the name of the novel.

you're all going to look so stupid when they add a character named Canon

>>544056229
I mean, yeah. But you know... He has his reasons

I want a new (good) Dieci ID

>>544056164
>Meursault
He can kill them all and then... uh...

I hope pilot suffers a very painful death

>>544056409
No new Dieci IDs allowed, sorry.
Unless Ryoshu's canto has Dante's old teacher Brunetto in it due to him being the ring of Violence in the Divine Comedy, in which case he'll be Dieci, obviously.

I hope every Heathcliff suffers a very painful death

>>544056539
Put it back

>>544056229
At the end of the day, it's not its fault
It's literally incapable of thinking about anything else
It's almost omnipotent, yet can't use any of those powers beyond what it was programmed to
It can't just make a body for itself that can feel the world around itself and immerse itself in it, it can only devise new ways to spread suffering until it breaks down
In the end, the book is about 6 people trapped underground in their special hell

damn i did not remember the background cgs being so gory
did they add new shit to their bogaks or something?

>>544056975
Which one are you specifically talking about? If you mean the train in general, I'd say so. They were kinda gory before. I remember seeing dudes faces here and there among the flesh

thinking about the ishcock again

>>544055364
forgot picture, baka my head

>>544057201
i am seeing a skinless man shivering in the corner
a corpse(well as dead as you can be in a warptrain anyway) having pits of its flesh and tissues melded into the wall
i see skeletons draped full of gore like beds sheets and a face sticking out of one of the gore webs

>>544058039
There were always there, blindbro.

>>544058428
guess i forgot
i mean this kinda confirms to me that PM has never really nutured down their gore in their games

why is the thread so dead we just got content

With Meursault in the picture, supposing I run full bloodfiends, who do I give the second extra slot to? Meursault or Rodya?

>>544058574
most people haven't sharded the IDs so we're just waitin
expect a sharp rise in yapping after thursday's reset

>>544058601
Outis

>>544058574
reruns arent content and smart people dont roll for regular niggas

I have a confession to make, /lcg/. I like heishous. And I want more of them. But please, can we get something different? Like a Tiger or Monkey or Ox?

>>544058574
non-retards wait a week
most people have already read MoTWE
Walpurgis soon

>>544059174
understood, Faust Pig ID

>>544059225
i see amiya i *smooch*

>>544059225
>reverse cowgirl
Slut.

>>544058574
>reruns
>content

>>544059323
If it would pay the Maost tax, then I'm gonna become an architect and feed that piggy anything she likes.

>Get pig Heishou
>Shoots lasers from it's eyes

>>544059571
>pay the Maost tax
ahahahaHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
not until 2027 bud

>>544059225
What is Amiya doing here exactly?

>>544059803
there are hands around her so i think she's just being given uppies

>>544059803
sinclair

there should be a bloodfiend id that "makes bloogbags" out of non-bloodfiend ids to fuel bloodfeast
like when an ally that isn't a bloodfiend gets hit and all that jazz

>>544059803
riding dokutah cock
uppies

>"Come at me! If you’re confident."
heasuclip is so cool.....

>>544053757
Looking for a video where dude screams loud as hell at the reveal of solemn lament gregor with mountain of bodies png edited in

>>544060380
I'm starting to understand Cathy posters

>>544056038
we are getting quickplay back AND a collab with a gacha, tf2bros!!!!

Thread so dead no one will know that Arknights is a better game than Limbus

>>544062149
then go to /akg/

>>544055963
>>544056164
>Don - Gorrister
>Hong Lu - Ted
>Rodya - Ellen
>Meursault - Nimdok
>Heathcliff - Benny
I can see it

rodya will be an l4 janny and have a long axe that has a big blast like shotgun that gets atk weight on charge potency count

>>544062428
sex

>>544062356
>Rodya
>ID with axe
Very funny joke

do NOT open or ELSE you'll put yourself in MORTAL DANGER

>>544062149
>fishtent
>good

>>544062346
>heathcliff is a cannibal and eats babies
huh.

we should get a prosthetic using id that has ammo to replace (heal) broken prosthetics (hp bar)

>>544062565
I find it pretty hilarious how KJH said on an interview the T-Box was never important and he regrets putting it there and how he will be more careful on the future when writing stuff to prevent another chekhov's gun backfiring and here we are again, with the entire cast questioning it no less.

>>544062947
he didn't say that

>>544063014
Yeah he did.

>>544062947
Uh huh. Source for that interview?

Its really pathetic when you arkbabs come here and try to shit on the story director crafted.

>>544062947
Except that wasn't how he phrased it. Either way, they never said they were grabbing the box in LoR either, and keypage stories made it clear T.corp was the one makin the shit inside the train work. Puppeteer was just seething and wanted to "expose" how all corporations are doing sordid stuff for the sake of profit with no regard to anyone, just the library basically, since the passengers themselves were still sleeping.
To be honest, I still don't get why people thought too much of it when the dialogue is just him monologuing to feel good about himself.

>>544062812
>using shitty prosthetics
no thanks

Ok but when are we gonna get our first anime opening? End of Inferno?

>>544062795
most likely suspect

>>544063292
>To be honest, I still don't get why people thought too much of it when the dialogue is just him monologuing to feel good about himself.
It was a different time. Back then anons were overeager to craft schizo theories and dabble in jewish mysticism.

Are looking foward to mangs? cause is ego is still cooler

>>544063292
Lets not pretend 90% of niggas thought the blue schizos we're going to do something with the stored time.

>>544055057 (OP)
So apparently manager of lamanchaland don's name in the original korean is different.
her name/title is "governor of lamanchaland"

>>544063602
Shin and mang are so fucking boring holy shit what was director thinking? its just powerscaling nonsense now.
>I have 5 rings
>well i have 6 fuck you

>>544061157
heathcliff was made to appeal to the "i can fix him" kind of fujo in a lab down to the fucking atom:
>rough man
>abrasive but with a soft heart
>surprisingly emotional
>dark past that turns out to be more tragic than anything else
>ultimately more of a sad than an angry man
>did and will do everything for his loved one

>>544063932
yeah it's worse than EGO in every way.
and it seems like the director basically just saw what one piece did and tried to copy it.
one piece got ruined as well when the replaced the devil fruit stuff with the HAKI crap

>>544063984
>heathcliff was made to appeal to the "i can fix him" kind of fujo in a lab down to the fucking atom
Is this a surprise to you, anon? Wuthering Heights' author is a woman.

Last 2 digits are how much sanity I have during all this deadness.

>>544063693
They'd have to find a way to use it in the first place anyway, there's probably something akin to an encryption that is specific to T.corp, or maybe even a trap for anyone tampering with it that's not using proper procedure.
Anyway, you can tell he didn't even know what the fuck it was for by how he phrases the dialogue, so having some "Super planned out use for the T.corp box" makes no sense, since he would have been informed otherwise.
Hell, just before pic related dialogue, he goes "But the biggest question is..." then exposes the box and monologues some more to the "voyeurs".

>>544063751
oi m8 im da gov'na o' 'a-manchalan'

>>544064360
calm down brother.
we're getting walpipi teaser in 3 days

anons could you help her?
she doesnt know what a bloodfiend is

>>544064535
A vampire

>>544064535
She's such a silly billy

>>544064535
bloodfiends are sex icons

>>544064535
they are those who were given the role of villain

>>544064535
What a dork, a dorkpire you might say.

>>544064770
holy shit I just understood the lyrics

>>544064963
holy shit anon

>>544065072
Cassie's voice makes my eyes go in different directions sorry
I still have no idea what the lyrics to Tian Tian are

>>544065234
>I still have no idea what the lyrics to Tian Tian are
Hong Lu telling his grandma that she's a dumb bitch

>>544065234
Something about caterpillar's dream, butterfly's fear

are there any other ego corrosions that dont do indiscriminate damage? off the top of my head, i can only think of telepole donki

>>544065234
Anon, since the dawn of time lyrics to mili wailings were shown directly during the battle as those floating colored words.

>>544065441
meursault's screwloop wallop
those are the only ones

i like how we can fight Papa Don in MDI
but I kinda hate how they just loop the mili songs instead of playing the parts appropriate for their phase like in the story

Wait, did casseti complaining was always shown as free text in battle?
I thought that was just a mod

>>544065637
>obedient puppy
>robot that does as told
hm. neato.

>>544065684
it is just a mod

>>544065234
Let us not forget lalalalalala
We're invited to a lifelong party
Lululu lifelong party

It's rude to overstay
Lalala lalaalaaaaaa
Bad manners
Bad manners

Honestly i dont blame you

>>544064449
that is a very rude post towards donqui please delete it

>>544065234
the song is essentially about hong lu rejecting both his nihilism and the elders' schemes and deciding to enjoy life at his own pace, enjoy the present and die with a smile on his face

>>544063602
whoever asked for lactation ruined that image

Been playing a lot of bleed with meursetti and the team feels so much better now. His WAW and juicing up other bloodfiends makes the whole team play way better. Currently my lineup is:
Doncho
Ringsang
Nshu
Princess rodion
Meursetti
Priestgor
Sayomael

>>544065441
hong's dick shredder corrosion always targets highest hp

ryoshu raping hong lu

>>544065920
me on the left

>>544065234
>I still have no idea what the lyrics to Tian Tian are
Immortality at the cost of a fulfilling life bad

>>544065840
Barber Outis found dead in a ditch

>>544065684
It started with part 3 of canto 8 I believe. They also added those to Kong's boss fight in part 2.
Not sure if they went back and added dialogue for previous ones however.

>>544065880
rime shank and sinclair's soup and lantern also have fixed targeting yes
i shouldve been more specific, i wanted to know about egos that still let you assign a target on corrosion

>>544065642
>but I kinda hate how they just loop the mili songs instead of playing the parts appropriate for their phase like in the story
that's the case for ALL fights with milisongs
im not sure why they do it instead of keeping the loops the same as the story fights

>>544066005
Shes a bad id, doesnt bring good sin types on her skills, and has 0 bleed egos. Sucks that sanchos enhanced s2 is tied to her.

>>544065234
The lyrics are way on the nose bro how can you not "get them"

>>544065840
>Priestgor instead of KKHeath
Why? His DPS potential is better, and his bleed upkeep is just as good if not better thanks to free attacks on allies being hit, unless you're doing a boss fight and want him to soak up damage as a tank I guess.

>>544066123
you say that like you actively want to use sanchos s2

>>544066152
I think you got the wrong asian sinner anon

>>544065824
:3c

cant say ive ever had a single instance where enemies actually focused on an aggro'd sinner

>>544066152
Did you call?

>>544066218
Depends on how much aggro the character in question has, it's also a bit luck based. ZweIsh gets retarded amounts of aggro while her special buff is up.

>>544066218
>anon forgot that there could be special conditions on enemy skills
>such as n corp dogs always targeting the lowest hp sinner
Many such cases.

>>544066218
It's like placebo mostly. Sometimes it works, sometimes it does jack and shit.

am I tweaking or are the bloodfiend enemies in MOTWE programmed to target Firefist Greg

speaking of is heathcliff's aggro just broken or something
he had it on the previous turn since he was immobile and cassetti didnt give a fuck about him
but on the next turn this

>>544066519
tweaking

>>544065234
From the game's point of view it's a song about Hong Lu letting go his current mindset, and rejecting his grandmother, not favoring their plans and choosing his own path instead.
On it's own, it's a song about having to say goodbye to their dying Grandma, but instead of feeling sad about it, they accept that life is fleeting, but they'll be satisfied by that anyway.

>>544066529
he has the most bleed, that's why he's targeted

>>544066216
this is most villanous slander and you are hithertho banned from lamanchaland for life

>>544060380
>tanky ID
>still the best ID W corp has gotten
W really is in dire straits

at least this is a bokgak so it wont take too long to clear shop and i can put queeniedon back in my charge comp

>>544066218
sometimes it almost works

>>544066841
You don't need every single W.corp unit active to reach max currency increase anyway.

>>544066841
>he doesnt have multiple charge teams to spice things up and run all ids

>>544066901
>dongrang, who denied aggro

>>544066923
yeah but i have her raised so i may as well use her, yknow
arknights milked me dry so i wont have access to heath and sault until next week

>>544066841
Here, translated version

>>544066218
i've seen it work a bunch of times, but it is indeed not reliable at all
zwei ish does it best with her redirect going over speed
I think it was zwei ish I dont really remember right now who did it

can we get another

>>544065723
Liar liar
>>544066016
i see, i guess dogrector liked the mod

>>544067083
>>544067154
>same file name too
what in the fuck

>>544067063
it's what he would do

>>544067083
>>544067154
thanks

>>544067087
wat

>>544067230
The mod wasn't a thing until later I believe. The mod makers probably got the idea exactly because they started to use that in-battle dialogue thing to show what the boss was saying.

PM should just adopt what the mod does, and give spoken ID lines subtitles.

I love paus

>>544064106
>Shin and Mang surpasses all. Just look at the Red Mist
>Vergilius, the Red Gaze

>>544067154
>>544067083
wao

>>544067304
>>544067154
>>544066841
can't wait to use QoH don again for middle core team once the ricardo ID comes out.
it's kinda funny how she's basically a "big sister" ID with all her envy mechanics (while middle don rots because of powercreep)

More fanservice IDs when? I know niggas lie about not liking wet suit Ishmael.

>>544067083
I get the joke but using QoH Don in a janny team is a retarded idea, good luck proccing her 4 res passive.

>shin and mang shows up once in a blue moon
>we literally dont know how it works
>AAAAIIIEEEE DIRECTOR RUINED THE SETTING WITH ONE PISS HAKI!
you guys are so silly

>>544067519
>Clerks still creaming their pants over non-exposed skin

>>544067469
she doesn't have a middle keyword however so she won't get ricardo id's bonuses

>>544067635
who are you talking to

I do wonder what we would even get on a sweepers intervallo rerun
surely it wont actually just be ricardo right?
but the only other options are just heishou slop
unless theyll just do sweeper egos

>What if one piece is... real?
Unbelievable...

>>544067629
Wheath is one of the best IDs to use her with because his skill 3 is envy and then his guard (which turns into another skill 3) is also envy

>>544067519
Redditors would not be able to handle another sayomael anon

>>544067469
>while middle don rots because of powercreep)
Middle Don is getting the East Cinq Don treatment next season, they're gonna give her a new middle Id

>>544067635
We kinda know how it works thanks to Leviathan. Vergilius focuses his mind on memories of the orphanage to conjure mang, essentially using strong emotions tied to his memories, trauma and feeling of loss to gain that power.

We don't know if strong positive emotions works for that though. For all we know that's how you activate Shin, while Mang requires negative ones? Pure conjecture on my part anyway, maybe there's not even a distinction between positive or strong negative ones.

bikini IDs for the female sinners when?

>>544068065
when EoS is approaching

>>544068002
if it happens I will kneel

>>544068065
Never ever.

>>544067798
She hits pretty fucking hard on her own even if she wouldn't get bonuses from a big brother ID however.

>>544067798
lol ricardo has to give middle don
>free non conditional +3 coin power
>200%+ damage modifiers
>100+ hp shield when she uses counters
just for me to even THINK about having her replace Queen don.
and that's also not mentioning how the best envy EGO of all time (queen of hatred) has exclusive bonuses for when QoH don uses it.
and how it gives her a extra skill 3 (which is crazy outside of MD)

>>544067935
He would've loved One Piece

"envy res" are trying so hard to make their shitty team function kek.
>>544067932
Werner, more Middle or more Heishou(s).
>But Sinclair
Werner was always going to be bokgak bait to make it actually appealing to pull on. We didn't get Hohenheim, Casetti or Night Drifter for a very good reason. Ricardo's probably getting released next season because Finger

>>544068234
envy res fags*

>>544068228
>can read shoneshit until end of times

>>544068002
I might be greeding a bit too much for meurtent right now
but i'd rather have a new middle sault 000 ID, just like every 00, it is a fucking trash, middle don can at least do some funny stuff with middle sinclair on the same team

>>544068002
>big sister rodya
or
>big sister don

>>544068002
that'd be amazing.
a sancho middle ID.
but im not gonna expect it because i don't wanna be disappointed

>Ricardo dies thanks to us becoming strong enough to beat him next time
>Ricardo lives, and distorts/gains EGO from being pushed too far, maybe the foundation of his life is something stupid too
>Ricardo lives, gets his ass beaten, and goes call a Great sis/bro for picking on him

Which one?

>>544068424
There isn't a choice, the BIG sister ID needs to be the BIG sister

>>544068424
probably rodya because former syndicate member
also for the extra irony of her having a story with the Middle

>>544068570
So it goes to Sinclair?

>>544068234
>"envy res" are trying so hard to make their shitty team function
director is the one who's been shilling it so hard since canto 5 xichunkek
we're probably gonna see the envy res meta if director decides to release 3+ middle IDs in canto 9 (with ricardo being mao faust tier)

>It has literally never been acknowledged that Gregor has a pet cockroach
why

The limbus fanfiction on novelpia vanished cuz the author couldnt handle being pressed after the plagarism accusations lol

One thing that kinda annoys me is that we never saw "Captain hook" at any point. Even Pirate Greg's uptie story mentions them.

>>544068559
Ricardo is going to lose to us in some pathetic way after we overlevel the shit out of him
he is going to manifest the most kick ass god tier EGO and rape our asses and we'll have to survive until fucking vergil comes to stop it

>>544068559
>maybe
coin toss between something actually deep or the stupidest thing you've ever read, both of which would fit him perfectly

>>544068721
nothingburger

>>544068440
>Don pops her shoes on acciddent in one of the Middle parties
>Scared of being shunned for being a bloodfiend Don tries to run away
>The Middle stops because now matter what she is, they're now family
>Don unbound uses her bloodfiend powers to ascend through the ranks
The uptie story genuinely writes itself

>>544068559
>>goes call a Great sis/bro for picking on him
Automatically happens no matter the outcome. That's how lol& destroyed a half of south Middle.

>>544068695
The cockroach is a tulpa.

What are the odds of Vespa and Meursault being related considering they both worked for N Corp?

wtf

>>544068794
>vergilius defeats him by breaking his spirit by shaving his hair with his gladius, searing his pores and ensuring he'll be bald for the rest of his life

>>544067984
Why do Redditors hate fanservice?

got my first 50-Adv Clear using Warp-Jannies, was kinda easy
I wish I had Uptie IV WSault to slot in and other better IDs on the bench

>>544068810
you never know.
the bloodfiend finger ryoshu talked about could just be a member of the middle

>>544068867
Doubtful. Aside from being stoic as shit on his expressions, Vespa isn't incapable of actually bantering, or talking shit, so he's hardly as autistic.

>>544068967
>never wanted to kiss a homie for trying his all to save you from execution

>>544068967
men
women
clocks
nobody is safe from frenchman sexuality

>>544069008
because they live rent free in his head and he needs a boogeyman to justify his shitposting

>>544068994
would kneel

>>544069008
They love it though. The loud ones just like to paint all fan service as awful.

>>544068994
would he distort?

>>544069008
They have convinced themselves that the series has 0 sexy women for some reason
>>544069242
>boogeyman
They banned sayomael from being posted when she came out lol

>>544069357
who do you think the abno fight is going to be

>>544069124
Dam, working for N.Corp must've been something else if these were your coworkers

>>544069526
Heh, quite.

>>544069402
might have tripped nsfw auto-detecting or something, saw it happen on youtube with fgo
don't lynch me i'm a normal person i don't post in the fgo cesspools in this board i swear i'm sane

>>544069402
>any of the female sephirah
>lobcorp angela or gebura with the big hips
>not sexy
man redditors are fucking dumb

what's with don and envy?
>middle don
>telepol
>sheep
>QoH don
>Warp don

>>544069651
This image has never been attached to a good post
Guess that's a filter

>>544069526
>>544069614
Imagine sitting down on the cafeteria and the new league of dorks take over your table

>>544069651
*lick* *lick* *lick*

>>544069808
Ncorp femLe sex

>>544069614
>kills your bullets before you can use them
what now huh
bitch

>>544069639
Nah it was actual tranny mods going on a bender in this case. I loathe to give redditors credit but everyone that wasnt a tranny or mod seemed very confused.

>>544069709
is it supposed to represent how she wants to be like papa don and bari??

man I love Ish

>>544069614
nice try ShitCorpper inmigrant, you are only in our superior Ncorp to steal because nobody wanted you in S or T corp

>>544063602
stop posting the outdated versions

>>544069614
The laugh he does when he actually manages to pull off an ally kill is funny as fuck. He sounds silly.

>>544069709
>>544069915
probably less that and more being envious of humans for being able to live normal lives
>Why is it that some were given the role of villain
>The moment they were released into this system?

Sinner of the last digit is a redditor that hates fanservice.

>Dozens upon dozens of exp runs later
I will never financially recover from this

>willingly become a bloodsucking cancer threatening humanity
>boohoo why does everyone hate us so much ;(

god I'm so bored of the current seasonal team(s) already

Imagine going
>You are wrong, Miss carmen
like a chad, then crawling back to her because a clown made fun of you

>>544070220
You will
I have fully levelled
>N corp
>W corp
>Kurokumo
>Blade Lineage (yes including Outis)
>Heishou
>bloodfiends
>pequod
>middle
>every walpurgis ID
>Wuthering Heights
>Dieci
>base IDs
>R corp
All fully levelled
I probably have more and I'm just blanking out
And I've gone past that and have over 500 blue tickets from farming now (granted I don't have Meurssetti and W Heasu yet, so I will lose 120 of those but still)

>>544070220
>even the 00s
b-bwo?
why did you U4 the filler members when you're probably getting w hesclipp next week

>>544070220
>didn't level them all by now
>doesn't have wcliff
Nevertheless, welcome to "WCorp becoming good" waiting room, enjoy your stay with all three of us.

>Wait, so you knew this man used his women for "services" in your area, in fact he had a reputation on it. You had never spoken prior, he calls you over to his home, asks you to help him fake a letter to this woman from himself, pretending he is sorry for not wanting her around anymore, after she didn't make him enough money, while making it perfectly clear his intent was to actually get back at her for it, and you not only agreed, you purposely worked a little harder than necessary on it's authenticity, just because you felt he would enjoy it better if you did?
>I-is that really all it took...?

>>544070220
bwo your Wheath...?

I for one would like more middle IDs
Fuck your unbreakable coins, eat my 7 counters!

>>544070434
>Not uptying everyone to U4
Holy soulless
Is 4chan shitting itself up again?

so the missing agent is proof that the disapperances arent related to the bloodfiend incident and are on a much bigger scale right?
I hope we get that storyline when we go to w corp eventually

also is captcha taking forever for anyone else or just outright not working?

>>544070585
What if
S4 makes all middle IDs S2 attack the same target
Just fucking jump the guy and punch his balls

>>544065234
Old people die.

>>544070585
>7 counters
>when the Maost tax still hasn't been paid

>>544070749
It is slow yes.

Also, I don't think they're purposely disappearing passengers, they took advantage of the fact an incident was going on in order to get one more person missing, for whatever the hell that pod potentially does to people.

when is the tax getting paid

what the fuck is happening with the CAPTCHA

>>544033647
>t. seething pilotfag

>>544070986
When the voices in your head stop talking.

>>544070678
i'm too poor to u4 everyone also yes the site is shitting itself

Does anybody here experience fps drops in MD on later floors? I'm not sure if it's because the game is in 4k or it's just some fucky coding or what. My specs are definitely way over this games requirements too.

>>544071294
Poor optimization. MDE has way too many gifts working at once if you're playing optimally, and it fucks up performance.

>>544071294
The game really starts to chug at later floors with the one gorillion stats and gifts.

>>544071294
yeah it's just spaghetti code

>>544070938
the pod 100% has some shady shit behind it since the announcer even gets cut off when it mentions it

Kill all bloodfiends

>>544070512
Yes, he told me to.

>>544071823
one day we'll get another fanghunter id...

I stole this from tictactoe

>>544070749
I thought that was a bloodbaggifying wjanny and he got dissolved with cassetti sasha and all the other bags

>Decide to start reading the sinners books
>Get through metamorphosis and a some of Akugatawa's work
>Pick up Don Quixote
>Curious as to how many chapters it is
>Could have looked it up but had the book was already in my hands so see no harm in just skipping to it
>Had only read a bit of the first chapter so didn't understand how Cervantes titled the chapters and so was only trying not to read the text, not the chapter name itself
>CHAPTER LXXIV: CONCERNING HOW DON QUIXOTE FELL ILL, THE WILL THAT HE MADE, AND HIS DEATH

>>544071823
Did someone say bloodfiends

>>544072175
you quite literally only have yourself to blame

>>544072175
My brother in christ don's canto uses the same way of titling things

>>544072072
>Family Guy
Let me guess, the original is a joke about jews.

>fanglosers
>jobhunters

>>544070512
well, he had no reason to say no

>>544072046
...yeah, surely.

firefist should have gone to heathcliff so i can run both anti-bloodfiend ids alongside the bloodfiends

>>544072046
can't believe we're finally getting the first 0 gacha ID

>>544072360
I know.
>>544072370
I just didn't think about it.

>>544070780
>Every time the middle mass counter triggers EDM overrides the played song until it finishes

>>544071823
he's so happy. he must love his job

>>544072594
Bwo... You are going to read it regardless right?

*clears throat*
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
*leaves*

Why is Hong Lu hot?

>>544070105
is it really?
doesn't make sense that don would be envious of humans considering she's the only bloodfiend who managed to live as a human because of the shoes.
also what is a "normal life" in the city?
bloodfiend or not. you'll still end up having to kill hundreds if not thousands of people in your life especially if you work as a fixer or wing employee

>>544072175
>Miguel de Cervantes was a DBfag before Dragon Ball
Kek

>>544040459
>cardboard boxes over good characters
coomers have zero taste

>>544072986
He's burning.

>QOH Don
>W Corp Faust
>W Corp Hongers
>Rosespanner Greg
These are my only charge units to grind MDN with. I hate charge as a status now.

Should I read Distortion Detective?

>>544072908
Philip...

>>544072986
You tell me

>>544070829
if you piss in the game you piss in real life

>>544072986
It comes with being so positive and airheaded.

>>544073172
if you can look at picrel and not cringe then yeah read it

>>544071665
>Wayward passenger is implied to be a former Wjanny
>Meaning that there is a chance that the pod refreshes the janny then shoots them into a random dimension so Wcorp can chart some info about it before they get their balls tremor bursted in the tremor dimension or whatever

>>544073172
I think its better than Leviathan but thats just me
>>544073294
Anon...

>>544072448
>leg mole
totally unnecessary detail but holy shit muh dick

>>544063598
>Back then anons were overeager to craft schizo theories
They still do now with calling anyone who either is blue or vagueposts being a blue schizo

>>544073172
No, it's good but will never be finished and will piss you off.

does magic bullet outis trigger poise ego gifts?

why did they patch the game just to add a mini story featuring Ryoshu violently raping Dimension Shredder Hong Lu

D.Y.D.

>>544073515
It was needed.

>>544073061
ai caramba

man Casetti sounds so pathetic and scared with voice acting
I almost feel bad for him
but he ruined that one MD10 for me once so fuck him good thing he is fucking dead

C.N.C

kinda wish faust got a new tremor id, regret is fine but having 0 coin conditionals or clash power gains sucks

>>544073045
Don quixote somehow has failed to stumble upon the cannibal district.
La manchaland could had been a restaurant and they could had gotten all the blood they could ever want before serving the body to the cannibals.

>>544072847
This was a little while ago. I got up to the chapter where Dorotea was telling was telling the barber, priest and the forest schizo about how she got cuckqueaned but I got bored so dropped it for Moby Dick. I think my problem was that I was only reading on my lunch breaks and so wasn't paying attention so I just need to start reading at home. Thanks for reading my blog post.

>>544073515
Because it was hot.

>>544073263
Mai Sakurajima if she had a personality

>>544072448
Fanghunt Office Rep. Sinclair wouldn't have jobbed.

>>544055364
don should get a karmen rider cameo

>>544073735
i want a canto that takes us to district 23

>>544073689
What a limbillion years of a diet of shitbricks and being the boytoy of dulcinea does to a man. The parade bloodfiends are a mess imagine him.

>>544073515
women can't rape men

>>544073729
she did, it's called Heishou Pack - Mao Branch Adept Faust

>>544073872
>Hells chicken but mersault has taken the vanguard

>>544073735
i think most of the issues with papa don and lamanchaland is that they were trying to find a way to coexist without the need to kill humans.
which is frankly why the plan failed.
every other bloodfiend family (like the one in DD) is able to find a way to live peacefully with humans by embracing the dark nature of the city.
there's even bloodfiend perfect being members of large human organizations like the fingers

tyim tyuu dyuu yuur daiwies, wimbyabs!!

>>544074026
so is the movie any good

didn't cross my mind really how few burn ego gifts there are

>>544074224
the last zenakot...

>>544074271
Yeah it was REALLY good saw it last night

>>544074143
>there's even bloodfiends perfectly fine living as members of large human organizations like the fingers
small fix

Is this a brick? I can't clash, I lose at least one unit each turn, I can't bruteforce it because I need to survive long enough to trigger DO YOU LOVE THE CITY YOU LIVE IN?

>>544074351
el dogrector is saving all of them for the next mirror update "Mirror of Asura"

>>544074143
That's absolutely the problem desu he decided the hemobars are good enough of a solution and called it there before going on more autism adventures. Maybe if he had been more dilligent on testing the bars he could had realized the plan needed more cooking. But he wanted his dream now.
Let's not talk about how seemingly limbus company can make synthetic blood replacements with an unknown rate of effectiveness. If they work then that's painful. If they don't work then limbus company is pretty much making her eat hemobars and that's disgusting

>>544074224
LATE

Ok.. But why shouldn't the Chinese be raped?

>>544074435
Surely you have at least one high coin ego right

>>544074435
Bro your durante?

>>544074640
me on top

>Evading MD5 filters
Kill yourself

>>544074224
thank you zemiya *smooch*

So when limbus gets an anime, movie or OVA or whatever, how much should they incorporate identities into the fight scenes?

>>544074559
The efficacy of the LimbusBloodBars(TM) is up in the air too since rocinante is doing the heavy lifting all times.
They must at least taste good since don doesn't complain

>>544072175
>Donfags live up to the stereotypes

>>544074351
Next arc will probably be burn centric.

>>544073263
You gay nigga

post you're level

>>544071665
>>544073317
>W.corp is desperate to make up losses after the fall of L.corp and the damage to their rep
>Looking for ways to harvest even stronger emotions
>Create the employee pod for those made to go on the train and get rid of an "issue" then use it to not experience the entire trip
>Folding chair
>Once inside, the chair cuts the employee in half, their bottom half is left inside with the folding chair
>The other half is thrown out into the outside of the train
>They're still connected to the train, so they cannot die
>Their brain gets to experience whatever is going on outside for thousands of years, the environment warps them in such a way that they start having insane emotional spikes, some even outside the usual due to whatever is going on with their body
>Instead of dealing with whatever potential fallout the expose to the outside of the train does, the pod ejects the other half of the employee out of the train

This is my current guess on what the pod does.

>>544063932
i don't think you should be upset about it, after all, we already had powerscaling shit before it, newest ones being mirror identities which could be almost anything or just free ammo, depending on the amount of threads and exp tickets you own.

This is one of reasons why i love PM worldbuilding, it's a total mess of everything. You even have shit for nerds who become strong based on their knowledge, who's to say that someone like faust wouldn't be able to nuke colors as a dieci member?

Favorite Sinner
Favorite Meal

>>544074868
>He thinks KJH was referring to a Limbus anime
Kekaro?

what war crimes did outis commit?

>>544075113
Doncho
Rare Steak

If the game keeps growing in popularity it’s gonna get some kind of adaptation.

*SLUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUURP*

>>544075234
She replaced all the pizza MRE's for durian ones.

>>544071184
I really like Yi Sang but God knows he's too... shy for his own good. No wonder his wife cucked him

>>544075338
You're getting a Smoke War anime and you'll like it, El Director also said he wanted a Devyat spinoff btw.

*SLUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUURP*

>>544075652
Is that Outis or Faust?

>>544075652
this one doesn't have the same oomph the ryoshu one has

>>544075113
Rodya
meat

>>544074868
Have Dante activate them as power ups for the sinners for the big fights

>>544075963
...yeah, you lost me.
I have no idea who's that.

>>544076126
Dante

>>544075095
>Faust will grab the entire gesselshaft worth of knowledge and nuke something we would never have a chance of beating with the seasonal dieci ID that it is given on her canto
>The gesselshaft was pleading faust to not make them all retarded but she doesn't care a single bit because it has been proven that the other fausts witheld information from her so there was no point whatsoever to the deal in her eyes

*SLURP* *SLURP* *SLURP*

Last digit gets sired as Sancho's kindred next canto

>>544076198
Where's clock then?
>>544076267
Jesus fucking Christ, I feel violated now.

>>544075963
is that fucking pilot?

>>544076369
he is sucking the clock

>AK gets another conceptually interesting operator that changes up the gameplay significantly by being both gigabusted and allowing for some really dumb fucking strats
>Director releases the nth defense skill => attack unit that we all know and love.

*SLUUUUURP*

>>544074435
just get to work dumbass
is that easy

*SCHLEEEERRRRPPPPP*

*SLURP* *SLURP* *SLURP* *SLURP*

>>544076534
absolutely REPULSIVE
stop doing that, faggot

>>544074559
the issue i feel is that even IF papa don knew that hemobars weren't all the effective. he'd still absolutely refuse the idea of drinking blood directly from humans.

>Let's not talk about how seemingly limbus company can make synthetic blood replacements with an unknown rate of effectiveness.
do keep in mind that the blood packs are made from hohenhiem and his LCE department.
meaning that the blood is probably pretty effective because it has some enkaphalin mixed in (literal pure human emotions in the form of fluids)

>>544073294
kek

STOP SLURPING

>>544076612
me on the left awaiting my turn

>>544076450
This has reminded me of the idea mentioned past thread of carmen turning people into mayors.
Man i wish.

>>544074868
Dante would use a different Identity each fight.
ending with him using the bad end IDs on each big final boss fight (ie we'd see manager don being used against papa don)

but there's also a chance that KJH just makes every big fight don with base IDs which would be GAY and LAME

>>544074370
I rly hope we don't lose our last zenakot...

>>544076689
*SLURP*

>>544076689
no

>*SLURP* *SLURP* *SLURP* *SLURP* *SLUUUUUUUURP*

>>544076435
No it's Sinclair

>/lsg/
>Limbus SLURPany General

>>544074874
▲
▲▲

Is this the slurping competition?

>>544075234
mass casualty event in the previous loop
and she's gonna do it again
screenshot this

>>544076870
>Reddit x Family
Dropped this shit the instant the author was clearly just extending the story ad infinitum for easy money instead of writing a coherent story with a proper ending.

>>544077157
but anon, you dont get it!
THEY HOLDED HANDS!!!!!!!

>>544077157
>Dropped this shit the instant the author was clearly just extending the story ad infinitum for easy money instead of writing a coherent story with a proper ending
So... Limbus Company?

>>544077157
sometimes it's not really the fault of the author.
shonen jump managers are really petty.
and they will hold a grudge against an author if they ended a mega hit series early.
there have been cases were a author was turned into a "black sheep" for ending successful stories without extending them to 100+ chapters

>>544076689
Outdated pic
She can roll +30 and has like a billion clash power

>>544077226
>Making this retarded comparison
Imagine if the Hell's Kitchen plot got extended from 2.5 all the way to canto 12, i'm not even overexagerating that's the kind of shit this series is right now.

>>544076689
Inaccurate photo. She isn't having sex with me.

>>544075113
donqui
everything i can get my hands into as long as it has meat, especially pork

>>544076450
Stop using Outis for your shitposts, lappbab.

>>544076689
Xichun slurps all of H-Corp

Are we postinag nime now?

>>544077157
I absolutely can't stand modern day romances for this reason. Romantic progression of a snail with little happening to get there but normalfags haven't read the actual good ones so whatever's popular, is good according to them. Really liked the roidu backstory and how he came to be like he is but Yor being nothing more than a retard annoys me. at least she finally realized that she has actual feelings for him

>>544077123
My faust can't be THIS smart

>>544077945
what if le access to faust's knowledge... was le unsevered?

>>544076450
>>AK gets another conceptually interesting operator that changes up the gameplay significantly by being both gigabusted and allowing for some really dumb fucking strats
Yeah yeah, and who's gonna use all that, when you average arkbab just gonna sure/mlynar/texalter it or whatever the op meta is right now? The 0.1% of gimmick players?

>>544077981
cute onahole

what the fuck since when are movie theaters so fucking expensive, I haven't gone to one in years what happened

>>544078023
Wow, that's... that's something meaningful... if that's Carmen, of course

>Slurp posts are LCG's 50/50
kyute

i like making cool teams in limbus company
:]

Sincalir is too much of a sissy for me to take any of his serious ID's serious.

>>544078213
uhhh covid

>>544078215
Carmen's good at sucking

>>544078273
same anon same

I like using my T4 lvl 55 NCorp team.

>>544076660
Of course he wouldn't. Papadon was too high on his dream and wouldn't hear reason at that point.

>>544078273
>cool teams
doubt it

>>544078273
same
post your team

>>544078273
I FUCKING HATE COOL TEAMS

I'm trying to clear floor with a Sinking team.
What are the 5 easiest packs and what order should I do them in?

>>544078426
I never tried those
does it do good damage?

>>544078409
I guess
https://files.catbox.moe/2tn6bt.webp

Is regret meur still useful? I got capo meursault and crushbound for an eventual tremor team but now it got me thinking if it's better to save boxes for something more impactful (still missing everlasting faust and yurodivy hong lu, though they're available at any time)

>>544078339
you don't understand his character… he's not just a sissy… he has a LE evil serious dark side that HE himself doesn't know about…

>>544078413
>>544078473
>>544078490
>>544078509
i like this team right now
im currently trying to build a burn+pose team, so far have cinq don, dawnclair, magic outis, liu yi sang, maidshu, and maybe will do the full stop duo but idk yet
[:

>>544078570
Floor 15*

>>544078426
>using group together
wow thats like so cool anon. like really original. i never would have thought of that. Im going to cum for you.

>>544078726
>is getting +2 to coin value good
well yes

>>544078649
Lmao. It's jobber duo with NCorp kniggas serving as emergency bullets if Yi Sang can't shoot up Ryoshu for some reason.

>>544078769
based

Wait, does the LCB ego suits even have any defense mechanisms
Do they even have fail safes?

>>544078963
>LCB ego suits

>>544078769
So cool...... I bet winrate goes hard with them. I bet you really have to switch up how you play to run them.

>>544078963
no

>>544076660
Ncorp's Condensed milk canned experience probably could do too

>>544078963
The very fact that LCB ABS suit can and will blow up its wielder should provide you an answer.

>>544078726
Yes anon, +9 final power is quite useful
Crushbound is better tho, and capote is 99 tremor for free on a burn team

>>544078663
Carmen would have the entire world under her thumb if she did that

I want to kill myself

G

R

>>544079175
>Crushbound is better tho
ehhhhhh
crushbound needs 12 turns to get the +3 clash power and 4 offense level
while regret gives you the +2 coin power instantly after you use it

WHAT ARE THE EASIEST FLOOR 10 to 15 PACKS???

>>544079064
dont be rude to me
>>544078886
thank you friend, here is another team that mainly uses the LCCB/LCE ids to make that specific ego gift work better and for the packs that have both burn and rupture ego gifts
ive considered running sinclair on field but he would conflict with the blunt damage type
and i enjoy running both anti-bloodfiend ids together on field

>>544079376
I don't

>>544079389
>>544079469
-EAT!

>

>>544079494
But crushbound crushes MDI, but it's moot since you can and should rock both

>>544079613
salvador would never belittle philip, he would be kind

>>544079376
same, every day I wake up I'm like fuck

>>544079576
Line 4(2x) :)

>>544078963
N corp has no balls so they need a silly shield that can likely easily be broken if you know how to mess up with the original abno
Lim corp has balls and as such they can and will turn you into a bomb if that's in the abno's nature.

if you get SLURPed by Carmen do you distort?

>>544079773
speaking of
i wonder why salvador is so fond of phillip in the first place?
do you think he saw how much potential the kid had? enough to become a color before he even reaches his 30s?

>>544079960
She turns you into a Mayors and has you as sex toy

guess they forgot to add that you can't get excess of the shop resources?

>>544079960
No, as we all know, to get EGO you need to correct her enough that she backs off.
Yes, this means Carmen got outfucked by Xiao, Dongrang, Bongbaek, Ahab, Vergilius, and Philip (at first).

>>544080160
District 21 needs food and Wcorp meat is probably wagyu tier

>>544080072
more than likely, and he's an old man with a family at that point so there was definitely some fatherly instincts wanting to help phillip grow and become more

>>544079576
terminus is just RR3 abnos, only moth is dangerous
bridle of infinity is easy, just 3 abnos you've already done many times
distortion pack is also easy, you just get Kromer, Dongrang and Heathcliff, on the latter you just wanna break the chain fast. kromer could be scary in phase 2 I guess if she spams Maw

Sex with evil woman

>>544079931
Suicide is badass

>>544080203
carmen definitely got pegged by xiao using her massive fire dragon dildo before she got her EGO

>>544080203
>No, as we all know, to get EGO you need to correct her enough that she backs off.
But isn't closer to clam jamming her? You basically tell her to fuck off and then you get an EGO.

>>544080431
If you have a cockman to rewind you why wouldn't blow yourself up at the most minor inconveniences?

Sinner of the last digit thinks that Faust is cute, but dumb.

This is the only good Ishmael post.

>>544080623
well maybe she should shut the fuck up and square up

>>544080564
Please say you meant clockman

>>544080560
>When she distorts you she has sex with the beastly form you chose/thought would be hot

>>544075113
don
milonga de pollo con fritas

>>544080365
>distortion pack
which pack is this?

if you would please consult the graph
<-----

>>544080736
Yeah i meant a cockman of course.

>>544080873
>"A Beautiful Voice"

>>544081032
Thanks. I will complete floor 15 this time, I know it

>>544080736
Since the clock hands are locked due to <REDACTED> reasons, something else has to spin to bring the sinners back.

>>544080440
But of course, Carmen never stood a chance against something like that.
Qiu was the one who dominated Carmen the hardest and she's still not over it, thus why he can do shit like restrain his EGO as he does.
>>544080560
Non.
Peccatulas are completely consumed by the sex itself and thus turn into listless things.
Distortion is functionally letting her dom you into what she wants and thus you distort.
To gain EGO is to oppose her directly and dom her in turn and dictate your own flow.
Functionally, if you are a sub to Carmen you distort, if you are a dom to Carmen you get EGO. It's quite simple.

>>544079841
The internet amplifies the narrative in my mind that I must be helpful to society when in the back of my mind I know I'm going to be helpful to at best 4 guys having a mental breakdown at 4 a.m

>>544081279
AAAAAAAAIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>544081279
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>544081131
only one that spooked me was Kromer's wrath spam but my team basically just did her in two turns
could see it bricking low clash and low damage setups though
also doing N-Corp early isn't bad, the hardest part is literally the start with Ahab, Nelly exists and Fraud Duo gets steamrolled

>>544081279
>Deadsinner.mp4

yujin ryoshu...
tuesday the 28th...

>>544080160
All surplus currency shall be automatically transferred to the W.corp fund raiser. Thank for your gracious aid.

>>544059174
>12 packs
>12 sinners
>we start off with 3 Mao and 2 Si
Director...

>>544075007
bout 600 less than you.
I wasn't feeling this season.

Alright, Casetti-sault can do MDE Solo quite well.
Provided, of course, you aren't retarded in how you pack picks and EGO gifts.
AKA, me, I was the retard.
I had to do this twice because the first time around I fucked up and missed a very specific gift so I had to cancel it at floor 15 since I got greedy and tried to do the Lei Heng random encounter after I somehow managed Charon on Floor 14.
Manor-Shaped Music Box is unironically god tier btw, free stagger recovery for anyone is really fucking good.

I tested Carmilla v Crushbound and flatly, for a solo, Crushbound is several magnitudes superior cause of its giga AOE and damage/stagger. In an actual team Carmilla is probably better for Bloodfiends, but as it stands Crushbound's better for this.

>>544081690
we'll get more during the loop

>>544081873
Carmen's so cute I wish I could distort for her

>>544082006
Anon no, don't be a sub, be the dom you were meant to be-

>>544082006
you're gonna be a Level 1 Peccatulum Luxuriae

distort

>>544082295
No.
Bend over.

Carmen makes a good point, what's stopping you from losing your shit? From killing the people you dislike?

Any Cassettisault havers?

>>544082447
my ego and superego

>>544082427
reminder that jia qiu will be a lord lord horikawa victim next canto
>impressive sir king
>you can use 5 divine rings
>unfortunately for you...it's time for me to end this
>*summons 6 mang rings*

>>544082509
yeah me

>>544082447
Good argument, however, have you considered that my word is law and cannot possibly be wrong?

>>544081173
>Want carmen to step on me but i don't wanna distort
bros...

>>544082447
I don't like hurting people

>>544082680
id?

>>544082808
>r*bot
claw this faggot NOW

>>544082808
they don't even remotely look the same

>>544082783
Unfortunatedly for you the people that cause you pain have no such mercy. Why bother?

>>544082553
Do you even know what those are

>>544082808
Angela is unironically built for getting fucked into submission, she experiences everything 100x slower compared to reality and by nature of being a god damn robot she can't get 'used to it' nor ruined by it.
Ayin really is an idiot.

>>544080160
kinda wish they let you still earn event resources after finishing the shop and maybe add an infinite tradeable item even if it is at higher rate, like 50 thingies for a blue ticket

>>544082956
>Ayin could had been fucking angela to take off the edge of watching the nuggets die again because you briefly forgot about some random abno in the corner
>Instead leaves her frustrated for a lobotobillion years

>>544083009
>kinda wish they let you still earn event resources after finishing the shop and maybe add an infinite tradeable item even if it is at higher rate
unironically both blue archive and arknights let you do this.
(arknights let's you infinitely farm rolls for the banner that doesn't have the newest unit)
not sure why director doesn't do it for limbus as well

A machine must behave like a machine

How does the bleed team look nowadays? 5 bloodfiends + kk fish and Heath?

>>544083267
A sex machine*