Thread 545830074

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>Demo Days
HAPPENING NOW: https://itch.io/jam/agdg-demo-day-65
Previous: https://itch.io/jam/agdg-demo-day-64
Older: https://hackmd.io/LhEB6VCZSx-oBalI2cWWoA

>AGDG resources
https://hackmd.io/dLaaFCjDSveKVeEzqomBJw

>Helpful links
New Threads: >>>/vg/agdg
Archive: https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/search/subject/agdg/
/agdg/ Steam Games: https://made-by-agdg.vercel.app/
Steam Games by AGDG: https://agdg-steam.netlify.app/

>How to Screen Record
https://getsharex.com/
https://obsproject.com

>How to Webm
https://github.com/argorar/WebMConverter
https://github.com/michaelmob/WebMCam

>Previous thread
>>>545744378

>>545829870
dude, no way...

>>545829765
actually i think that would have been manually set verts and drawn with GPU commands, I've done something similar where I took the AGDG logo like above >>545830074 (OP) and I just clicked points to set verts, and then that let me bring the agdg logo in engine in like, <100 bytes, verse a .png that would be much bigger game resource. in n64 days I'd assume they'd do that, like give the image to a coder and he makes a new .cpp file with a statically defined array with a list of XY coords and he just pixel peeps the edges in photoshop and compiles it into code to draw it like a hard coded vector, save much more ROM space. but anyway the original was probably done on texta + paper and scanned in I'd assume

Yea, i think wagie run wont make it this DD.
I found some nasty bugs, the level is not yet done, and ironically i'm still waging to meet this year's corporate quota kek.

Im just gonna play other people game instead

>>545830678
Better luck next time. Your image could use sharper masking

Desert zone pause menu

>>545830518
sounds like glyph keeper, depending on what engine (unity/godot you can do this) you should be able to create a "3d text" object, specify the .ttf, type the words, and it procgens a mesh. That way you got resolution independence and lighting interaction, but of course the font has to be large size. Else you can use some asset that does "sdf font texture generator" it will come with a custom shader to render it, that is a step better than regular .ttf -> .png font texture atlas generators, tho I don't know how the maths works but it helps keep the text sharp

>>545830551
>actually i think that would have been manually set verts and drawn with GPU commands
Hmm I'm one you're replying to and I see what you mean. But I think the easiest and fastest way to achieve this in modern games, since we have basically no limitations, is just a square with the "game over" texture on it. But I get what you're saying.

>>545830678
>sharper masking
how? render it at higher res, threshold to 1bit, then convert back to 24bit and interpolate scale it down to native res?

boku makes things from cubes
fygoon makes things from spheres
my gimmick will be..pyramids..pyramid heads

>>545831220
Stay sane and make things from quads and triangles like a mentally sane game developer

>>545831220
nah man jump on the sdf modelling bandwagon, everything a union or boolean of some parametric ass shit like donuts and toroids n sheit

>>545831810
if there was a tool as good as PS4's Dreams on PC I would. I've seen some but they suck

>>545830908
Spooky zone pause menu


>>545831220
Bokube 2 will not have cubes as the main art style. Only boku and the bunny-cubes will be cubes but enemies/other characters and the environment will be any geometric shape.

>>545830908
what's wrong with the other design?

>>545829910
Kek. They do seem to be in the up and up. If they keep improving I think theyll be the next Sokpop. Marnix is way too nice to his subscribers games tho, so many Ive seen that are just ngmi. 50 reviews is also ngmi territory while he seems to treat it as a good thing lel

>>545832403
https://itch.io/post/14732161/reply

updating based on demoday feedback scroll down to see the players requests

>>545830903
>>545831152
Thank you for the feedback m8. Ill try to met yer expectation on next year's DD

>>545829910
Kek. They do seem to be on the up and up. If they keep improving, I think theyll be the next Sokpop. Marnix is way too nice to his subscribers games tho, so many Ive seen that are just ngmi.

>>545830074 (OP)
Today I worked on a serviceable title screen.

I use chatgpt for world building does this count as ai game?

>>545735552
>inb4 they cause a stampede to web gamedev just like how programming got saturated

Second Life but india

>>545832182
Substance 3d modeler? I haven't tried it myself, but if I was a piratechad I'd give it a chance

I DIDNT DEV TODAY

FUCK ME IN MY NO DEV ASSHOLE

GOD DAMN IT

What's the gender ratio like at GodotCon? How's the party scene? Are there GoBaddies at GodotCon?

What went wrong?

>>545832506
Released BOKUBE DEMO 005 update; https://bokudev.itch.io/bokube
Here is a change log

-Removed lore ghosts for now from the demo the full game will have them with better audio and sound levels.

-Removed GET GOOD voices completely

-Fixed bombs so they instantly kill you

-Pressing ESC key on the main menu, once to open the quit canvas and again to confirm quit; quits the game

-Pressing ESC key on the cat shop menu closes it now.

-Made Bokube Tutorial level 1 easier by deleting some of the landmines in the instant kill teaching section.

-Made Snow Crystal Cave level 2 easier by removing some traps and enemies.

-Made Desert Target easier by adding more safety wood floors, removing some enemies, and traps.

-Made Spooky_3 easier by slowing down the oinky ghosts, editing the oinky enemies

-Made Easter Boss easier by slowing down the second arena attack of the big bird boss

-Made the cannon enemy firing better and not when the game is paused.

-Bomb explosions ((should)) kill instantly now.

-Made the Water Ice Death warning be 7 seconds long instead of 3 seconds long. I changed it font to the menu's font and added a speech bubble similar to the OUCH text so it fits the game more.

-Turned down the noise level of the windmills in the tutorial level.

-turned down the noise level fx of enemies on the ground in the 2nd level.

-Redid the cat shop menu to be more similar to the pause menu.

-Changed the background of the pause menu and added concept art to it so it fits the game style more. I'm gonna do something I guess where the art changes the concept art depending on which zone of the game you're in so its more charming.

-Changed the Settings canvas art so its not concept art anymore but its boku upside down and gave it a better background thats similar to the pause menu so the style carries through.

how do i get good at character design

poasting in the real thread
now I will play more DD games and not return

Can someone give me a hand?

>>545833724
its a mix of indians, south americans, fat neckbears and dudes in drag with pronouns. zero biological females

>>545834794
sorry bro, AI can't generate them properly yet. ask again in 2 weeks.

does anyone need an artist?

does anyone need a sophist?

>>545833724
Its like 63% women and 37% men. Lots of hot babes in the godot community!

does anyone need a programmer?

>>545830551
>dude, no way...
Auradev can't really talk to everyone about his job. "So what do you do for a living?" "Oh, I develop porn games and make a living from Patreon" "Uh huh, well, nice to meet you, uh, bye".

>>545836229
>Auradev can't really talk to everyone about his job. "So what do you do for a living?"
>I enjoy what I'm doing and can sustain myself off of that.
I don't see the issue

>>545834323
CHILD ! ! !

>>545836427
"Do you work in sanitation or something? No need to feel embarrassed! It's OK if you don't want to talk about it. Anyways, I have to go, bye."

>>545837673
Super cute post i made

The organization is working overtime to make you procrastinate. Are you letting the organization win, anon?

>>545838164
Hey, rotate sis. How's your game coming along?

>>545835741
May I see a picture of one of their meetups?

>>545839816
No.

>>545838164
you're that alcoholic pedophile I keep hearing about right?

What's with all the grifters on youtube regarding games and gamedev?
>This one thing ruins indie games, I fixed it
>Is there an edge to (insert popular AAA game)?
>Fixing (inserts popular indie game)
If they're so good at it, why don't they make a game and mop the floor with AAA and III game's raking in 10k+ reviews? Even from a non-game dev perspective I wouldn't want to watch these video's. The consooomers might not get it but little by little this erodes the mystery and appeal of a game.

Does anyone have experience with mobile ad mediation? If I want to use ad mediation do I need to add sdk's of other ad networks in my project? I'm checking the documentation and it looks like I do need it. I don't understand, if one ad network doesn't handle it and I have to install multiple sdk's why would I use mediation?

What can I do for a health bar that isn't just a bar or numbers

>>545840094
you answered your own question
their goal is to make a quick video with clickbait and make money

>be me
>make a ton of code
>need to reimplement this one feature
>it's part of this ton of code i finished over a month ago
>there's left overs in various scripts since i wasn't sure where to put it
I screwed up!!!!!

>>545834190
Updated BOKUBE DEMO to version 006 based on feedback and more here is a changelog

https://itch.io/jam/agdg-demo-day-65/rate/441850


-Gave logo scene, anime opening scene, the code scripts required to keep the games settings menu data for screen res so if you edit the games settings from any scene in the game the splash logo scene, and FMV opening scene should stay true to your settings.

-Added a alt-tab pause game C# script to the whole game on every scene so the games state will pause if the user alt-tabs out of the program at all.

-Slowed down the sprint roll a bit. (this is suppose to feel fast enough though)

-Pressing ESC in the settings menu now closes it just like the pause menu

-Pressing ESC in the controls help closes everything then you reopen pause and its just pause menu.

-The tutorial text ((Should)) fit your screen now.. I think?

-Pressing F for the cat shop at the start of the snow cave level is impossible to kill the player now.

-Deleted the upper spike log in the theme park pool I didn't like it anyway the level needed to be a bit easier i think.

-Fixed the tile walls in the pool right of the checkpoint

-Removed the theme park level from the BOKUBE demo and swapped it for another early game easier easter zone level. This new level is untested new content though and will probably need to be updated based on feedback as well...

-Fixed the WAIT here collision sign from the theme park level despite it not being in the demo anymore.

-Added enough coins at the start of the tutorial to let the player buy at least 3 health cakes so they can learn how to use the health cake shop with enough starting money.
The removal of the theme park level and swapping it out for another level from the full game... if you have not played the demo yet I recommend this one for posting feedback as il need it for this new level. Hopefully it wont filter people with the difficulty like the theme park level did.

>>545841035
>I screwed up!!!!!
and that's where growing begins sis, refactoring can be annoying and sometimes demotivating, but it's part of the learning process
if you don't fail you won't learn

>>545840094
>If they're so good at it, why don't they make a game and mop the floor with AAA and III game's raking in 10k+ reviews?
They are a specialist for a single or a few limited aspects of gamedev, and it takes far more to release a game. Many have already worked as a part of a larger AAA/AA project.

>Even from a non-game dev perspective I wouldn't want to watch these video's.
Yes because they are very technical and would only interest developers.

For example, this recent video from Acerola is in that format, and it was very informative, and Silksong did end up fixing their game in this exact way.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=au9pce-xg5s

>>545840397
An Orb.

>>545841082
and crabs always say boku doesn't listen to feedback lmao

>>545842460
Boku listens to all the wrong feedback while ignoring the right feedback.

oh you motherfuckers, listen: steam revenue calculator says trainwiz made 43 fucking grand net from 366 reviews at $19.99. HE is fucking saying that he has fucking netted 300 fucking grand. now use your retarded brain and wonder for yourself for a moment, how in the FUCK, could he possibly net 300 fucking grand off of a review estimation of 43 fucking grand? riddle me that one, retards. we're talking 7 fucking times difference

>>545841082
boku do you currently have a girlfriend?

>>545842460
The time to listen to feedback and change the game accordingly was 7 years ago when his game could have still sold on steam!

>>545841436
i cant stand this guy

>>545843073
such as?

ludd*te xisters we got too cocky

>>545845117
bypassing filter nigger

>>545844920
I've seen this pasta before.

>she doesnt know the only trajectory tutorial id made by an indian with a thick accent
https://youtu.be/ok4MIUbXc3I

>>545845117
that game looks shit though

>>545844970
yes why

>>545845052
he is insanely reddit. can't wait for AI to be good enough to summarize his shit into a full article that cuts out all the retarded 15yo behavior

>>545847202
Would you win the 'Worst game of Demo Day 65' award?
I know I would.

>>545844970
2 (or more) patches released in the same day ... definitely has a gf. yep. for sure.

https://youtu.be/ZwmdEISK4bk?si=_kx_4apMWi58_wEb&t=500

How important is re-inventing the wheel (in your scripts)? I just implemented headbobbing in my project, and because I liked how it was calculated in [RETRO GAME] with (pretty much) just a fancy sine wave, I used the same math in my project. Am I a fraud now? Should calculations be unique (from other titles)?
Wouldn't it coding quickly become unwieldy if every "solved" piece of math must be changed just so the code doesn't resemble another game?

>Surface Breaker
I got some animations done for the character. I've updated the project with a number of fixes from the 2 people who left comments.

>>545848091
shes addicted to the SIMS 2 and wont play through fucking dark souls co-op seamless co-op with me when we already made it halfway through the game so I have a lot of dev time right now.

Would you win the 'Worst game of Demo Day 65' award?
I know I would.

>>545845245
that's the only thing he can do, he fell for the meme and now the only thing he can do is cope about how doomed indiedevs are because of AI-ACK

I think I might have pissed off a loser, half-witted moderator around here.

>>545848745
What are your plans for her? Her hanging around, or putting a ring on her finger and doing SIMS 2 except in real life?

>>545845117
This looks like shit!

>>545848745
What about your game? Did she play it?

>>545841035
>it's implemented
>random error regarding something else that's part of the system
ugh really? why can't it just be easy. why is my life mostly one difficulty after another?

>>545830074 (OP)
>ask for good unreal engine C++ tutorials/online courses for people who don't know C++ yet
>just get a bunch of links to learncpp.com and when someone points out that I'm asking for help specifically with unreal C++, some smartass replies "yeah you're right, instead of learning C++ properly just ruin your understanding of the language so you don't actually know C++!!!"
why do retards think that asking for help learning programming to make games means I have even the SLIGHTEST bit of interest in programming for ANYTHING else? why do I need to learn how to use a fucking library to define a fucking window when the game engine I'm going to use handles all that skullfuckingly-boring and unrewarding backend slop for me? I am never ever ever going to use C++ or any programming language for anything other than developing games in unreal engine. I'd rather kill myself by drinking draino than do any non-game-related programming work. this isn't even getting into the "well I had to go to college to learn" replies. fucking hell software devs are pretentious shits. and then next they're going to tell me that I need to spend 5 years making platformslop retro game clones before trying to make a real game.

>>545849542
oh and I forgot to mention the worst sort of replies to this question, even worse than "durrr learncpp.com" or "go to college," it's "make the use of the ChatGPT saar"

>>545835109
Unfortunately, that sounds like what I expected.
>>545835741
I sincerely doubt that. But of course, I had to ask; there's no way that I'd pass up the opportunity to work my magic on some cute Godot-loving cheeks.

>>545835741
>women

>snimate 3d model
>import it into godot
>no wait you need code
>ask chatgpt
>code fails
>look up tutorial on youtube
>it talks about weight paint on blender
Looks like im stuck

>>545848343
I steal entire blocks of code from guides/tutorials. So do other game devs, including aggydaggyers.

>>545848335
you've got to be shitting me

>>545850115
>ask chatgpt
>code fails
that does tend to happen when you ask ChatGuPTa any real questions. it's designed to imitate human communication, not to understand programming. it is literally just a more advanced Cleverbot. you have to be a pajeet to be dumb enough to use it as anything other than a chatbot, because that's all it is. it's just cobbling together a bunch of words from stackexchange in a way that looks like it might be written by a real person.

>>545850130
Are you people not afraid of someone making exposé videos and having your personas/games branded as code thieves/frauds?

>>545841436
I actually prefer the look of the banding.

>>545850710
That will only happen if you let people see your code, or if you do something REALLY obvious like copy a game mechanic.

>>545848759
no because i didn't submit anything :)

THE CONJUNCTION
My game must become a new game in many ways, retaining the soul of the few elements that really work. A complete redesign of the core loop.

>>545830551
dumbass knitter just explains vector art in gpu primatives

>>545851293
My game is a supernova that will destroy the conjunction. you have 4 months.

>>545850737
this is like saying "I actually prefer the look of screen tearing"
colour banding looks like ass, and always will unless the game has been designed with a very limited colour palette in mind. but the kind of banding you get in games that use full colour is just a disgusting visual artifact.
we should have switched to 10 bits per channel 15 years ago.

>>545850560
I cant go to stack overflow from something that should be simple like snimating a 3d model. Its not on the docs either.

>>545851585
how about you use fucking google like every other person who learned gamedev in the last 25 years before ChatJeetPT was released. if that fails, post your own question on a forum. I was doing this shit when I was 12. there is no excuse for you being incapable of it.

>>545851754
And yet youre the one with a shitter game. Really makes you think.

>>545851531
limited color palettes are usually better
an given area should have a limited number of colors
clarity > detail
helps with the gamefeel too in an imperceptible way

>>545849542
There might be things for which UE doesn't have some specific implementation and you're expected to be able to look up basic C++ methods in documentation. If you ask people how to do array functions in UE they're going to tell you to look at C++ documentation.

>>545850130
Using code from tutorials or guides isn't stealing wtf, most likely you need to repurpose it and rewrite it enough to fit your use case that by then it is your code.

>>545851825
>saar your game is shit!!!!
no ranjesh, you can't smear it on your body to bless yourself
>>545851845
they're "better" if you prefer the aesthetic they create. it's fine in a game with a retro or very cartoonish look. but if you're going for anything resembling realism, then limiting the colour palette will make it look worse. if you want ANYTHING in the game to look smooth, like lighting for example, then it will look like ass with a limited palette.

>>545851531
>color banding
i prefer to call it "limited Posterization"

i wanna work more on my game but its 12 am and i worked on it all day, should i not to prevent burnout ?

https://itch.io/jam/agdg-demo-day-65/rate/441850

Had to reupload version 006 to FINALLY fix the tutorial UI to get it to finally display correctly.

Returning tomorrow its 2am here so ima sleep and then work on more updates based on demoday feedback when I wake up.

>>545852260
>but if you're going for anything resembling realism
why would indie solo/small teams ever do this? You either buy assets and have it look generic (and also have the headache of having to find the perfect assets that fit your game and are cohesive with each other) or have to have a team with godlike art and modeling skills, or spend a fortune outsourcing that.
Not worth it for the production cost/time and skill requirements and even then it's usually not as appealing as cartoony/retro/abstract styles, so I'd say realism is riskier too. Exception is if you're purposely going for generic asset flip look.

>>545852451
it's a sunday dude

WTF, there are 62 games submitted to the demo days? I thought no one here made games...

>>545851887
that's fair. I just don't really want to spend months learning a bunch of shit that will never be relevant to me.
for what it's worth, I do understand *some* things about programming - I know what an array is and what it does, I know what if/else statements and loops are, I know what functions are, I know what a class is, I know what a header file is, I know the basic operators (though I struggle to understand what the actual difference is between . :: and -> and where I would use one over the other) etc. I also know the basics of the formatting (which lines to not end with semicolons, where to use parentheses and curly brackets, etc). it's just the specific keywords, functions and syntax that I'm not familiar with.

>>545852785
do you not work on sundays or something

>>545852648
BokuDev giving feedback when?

Okay it seems that the new implementation isn't causing the error, must be something else. I only have one potential clue and if it's not that I'm screwed, this is many, many of lines across idk how many scripts. Just cause the error activates there doesn't mean the cause isn't elsewhere. AAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!

>>545852714
>why would indie solo/small teams ever do this?
because they don't want to make toonslop?
>You either buy assets and have it look generic (and also have the headache of having to find the perfect assets that fit your game and are cohesive with each other) or have to have a team with godlike art and modeling skills, or spend a fortune outsourcing that.
you don't need godlike modeling and art skills to make something on-par with a 2000s realistic-looking game. yeah you aren't going to make modern AAA quality 3D assets, but you don't need 20 million polygons per character or individually modelled skin pores
>even then it's usually not as appealing as cartoony/retro/abstract styles
speak for yourself. I'd rather play a game that looks like it was made in 2007 than another generic indie cartoon/retro game (that is probably a platformer)

>>545852925
sunday is the day of rest as declared by the lord

>>545850710
Legally distinct code, pretty easy to make a small amount of changes. As long as it's not hundreds of lines that are 1:1 I doubt you'd get sued. 5 lines here, 20 lines over there, and then slight adjustments to variable names, oh your game has something the other does not and suddenly there's a new line in between where their's had none. Easy peasy. And if it's very simple code it'd be pretty hard of them to even sue. As if there isn't many people who've got similar code for things like character movement.

i got it

>>545852451
Stop working on it. having something left half finished is a great place to stop as you are going to be very driven tomorrow to pick up where you left off.

>sunday is a day of rest
>you must get up early to make sure you are at church on time
>terrifies me (church on time)

>>545853330
the movement feels backwards, like hes swinging it away from what he's meant to be mining

>>545852872
nobody here makes games. the demo day games are from the discord.

>>545853445
day of rest (from work) (to then spend on praising the lord)

Late night thread theme
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=piGLpwBPfE4

I hate python so fucking much.
I hate how popular it is, even if I'm not using C then I'm using fucking javascript.
I see zero purpose in python.
Even in terms of useless but philosophically interesting programming languages I practice APL, there's no real value in being proficient in APL but it's definitely interesting.
JS + HTML5 gives you so fucking much with such common shit.
Python produces inferior retarded kitten programmers with downs syndrome.
It's not even worth learning for the sake of learning.
From the computer level if you don't understand memory then what they fuck are you doing? Just use JS then you stupid fuck.
who the fuck actually uses python? it's not game developers. It's not embedded systems programmers. It's not industrial machine programmers. It's not software engineers (I mean real ones who get paid to make software that's used by real people). Even econ and finance guys use R for some god forsaken reason, not python. It's not serious computer scientists who actually contribute to the field (retards with BS degrees don't count). Even most indians are based enough to use Java.
Python is a status quo only because being a retarded brainlet is a status quo.
fuck if you're going to rape your ass learning the bullshit known as programming either give yourself the best start with javascript + HTML5 or just become a big dick developer and learn how to point with pointers. You're cucking yourself pretty hard just cause you're scared of learning HTML with JS cause that sounds like learning two things. Or you're scared of pointers and memory and primitives and compiler flags and make files and cmake. Well what the fuck are you even trying to do with computers then dumbass?
JS+HTML+CSS is literally how I started when I took a programming course in high school and then I became a big dick programmer with C and my testicles finally descended.
only things worse than using python is using C#.

>>545850710
>>545851169
>>545853329
forget copying code or mechanics, there are real faggots that take your game, put their name on it and that's it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bCJ7BieUss
that's the risk that you take when you put something online
if you don't like your mechanics being copied, do as AAA studios and patent them

time to hit the gym
>ugh I'd so much rather work on my game, I'd implement the world's best progression system right now if I didn't have to go to lift stupid weights

day off from the gym
>yeah! today I can work on my game all day. just not right now, I'm a little sleepy/hungry/behind on discord drama.
why am I like this?

I imagine having a job you have to go to is even worse.

>>545854042
getting up is work

>>545854402
>he goes to the gym
you couldn't pay me to go to the gym
unless the payment was in the form of enough knowledge in programming and art to make my game
but it wouldn't be

>>545854378
This will only happen to promising games, so no worries here.

>>545854402
The gym gives you nothing. The job gives you a raging drive to dev.

>>545854402
just do push ups and pull ups at home while your goons are rendering.

>>545854113
I was looking to contact you sis, take a look at this thread
>>>/wsg/5971747
I think you could find it interesting or inspiring, or maybe not kek

Why does /agdg/ hate me?

>>545854185
I agree.
Forcing indents to make code work is just blasphemy.

>>545854185
this brings up an interesting topic: what's the most useless and generally trash programming language?
I've never heard anybody say anything good about Ruby

>>545855017
because you are beautiful

>>545854185
>only things worse than using python is using C#.
I have 0 complaints about C#

>>545854660
I don't know how to react to this

>>545854402
When I worked in an office every day was a chore, an atmosphere of "you're not good enough", earning minimum wage and being too tired and annoyed with programming to work on my own ideas.
I had more fun working in a factory.

>>545854973
>sis
troons get out
>>545855104
i hate the entire concept of whitespace-sensitive languages but anyone who doesn't properly indent their code just for readability is a huge a faggot

>>545855115
You're new then. Ruby is still used for older RPG Maker games.

>>545855484
Who cares you doof work on some impressive physics within an engine. Bragging about pointers is toaster whisperer shit.

They didn't FUCKING buy my game bros... THEY FUCKING DIDN'T!!!... ...please help me /agdg/, PLEASE!!!

>>545855649
I'll buy it right now, just drop a link

>>545854378
I remember this happening to one anon, Stygian Flowers dev

First comment I got was disappointing, but at least it helped me find some bugs. New builds are up!

>>545855530
>RPG Maker
people still use this? i can't think of an engine that's a bigger waste of time to learn. you can make turn-based JRPGs... and essentially nothing else. or at least that's how it was the last time I cared to look into it, 15 years ago. I ended up going with Game Maker (it had a space between the words back then. also FUCK YoYo Games) instead because you could actually make any genre with it.

>late night saturday night
>play a few minutes of vidya
>suddenly just want to dev
>already been devin all week for demo
>just want to keep devin
We are so BACK

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFo-Fp2eJWQ

Stream part2 in 6 hours 17 minutes
10AM EST/3PM GMT
Will post a list of games a bit later.
If you'd like your game to be streamed - let me know.

https://www.twitch.tv/brimstonewalker

>>545855115
That's just the thing though, shit like ruby and go just make the case for python even more ass blasted. Cause if you're not doing a fullstack with JS using node then you're using whatever your company is like ruby or go.
Python is a a tragic disease left over from the now gone "just learn 2 code" era. Which was always bullshit.
>>545855259
GET THIS KNITTER OFF THE THREAD!

>>545854973
Some of those make me miss 2004-06 v . v

>>545856089
wait does my game have to run on mac

>>545856203
Yes.
Don't worry, I run games on a Windows PC

>>545856152
Python is great for doing math. Just not in real time.
Python saves programmer's time.

>>545855594
all I'm saying is that if you don't indent your code, then its illegible slop
seriously imagine writing an if statement like this

if (OP.isFaggot == true){
if (cock.hasCummed == false){
OP.suckCock();
}
}

instead of
if (OP.isFaggot == true){
if (cock.hasCummed == false){
OP.suckCock();
}
}

>>545856089
Play Ash

>>545856152
>GET THIS KNITTER OFF THE THREAD!
AI writes my boilerplate

>>545856380
Yup, will do

>>545856371
nevermind. fuck you 4chan for making me look silly.

>>545856371
???

>>545856854
I forgot that 4chan deletes extra spaces
just pretend that the second example has the nested if statement indented with another indentation on the function call inside of it
and I suppose if you wanted to be extra tidy you could put all the closing brackets on one line like }} instead of
}
}

You are stuck in 4chan until you make it. Case snd point. People who make it never come back.

I'm a steamie, I make slop!
I don't care if all my games will flop!
Gabencunt has took his pay...
My profit's gone, that's the steamie way!

>545857039
Who are you talking to, retard?

>>545857106
you WILL give 30% of your revenue to (((gaben))) and you WILL listen to all the redditors and youtubers (none of whom develop games) who tell you that steam is NOT A HECKIN MONOPOLY!!!!

>>545857106
https://suno.com/s/da81RB4dppBa36GV

>>545857504
https://vocaroo.com/17jnN65NLWrQ

>>545857312
https://vocaroo.com/11jYBCa7a2Pg

>>545858829
this pleases my zoomer ears

>>545858952
this is real talent, cris finally has a competitor

Noob question, but can you see list element's number from the inspector in unity?

>>545858829
>>545858992
Okay last one for the day
https://vocaroo.com/1eHLwWc0FDTm

>>545852219
Unironically ive seen two devs sneak stuff into their description on youtube stating you owe them attribution lol. Im sure most people just assume its free to copy. It gets edited enough that its likely not easy to get sued over anyways

>>545860269
What game?

my ideas are so good that they cause me physical pain

>>545858992
>>545860458
And they said AI would never make soul
https://vocaroo.com/1dGDya8q2Yta

>>545860514
I'm just joking, I got a couple of downloads and some useful advice. I just wish I had gotten a few more when I woke up today.
It's all good tho.

>>545860962
Early 2000's Fast and Furious era gem.

>>545860962
Unironically kino

>>545860962
Trapped demons can soul too

>>545860976
Ah ok, so what game?

>>545860962
I'm a STEAMIEEEEEEEeeeeeeeeeee

>>545862139
>Ah ok, so what game?
https://itch.io/jam/agdg-demo-day-65/rate/4021273

It's only a prototype and there's not much you can do. If you want to, you can give it a try.

>>545860957
same
the worst part is that theres maybe one or two of them that I could actually make if I wasn't too lazy to put in a few months of work learning shit without a guarantee of success ("success" in this case meaning "being able to execute the idea faithfully without having to massively cut it down to make it doable by one person with minimal experience and a $0 budget")
and every time I do feel motivated to start trying to do something to make these ideas real, I pretty quickly end up talking myself down from it because I can't help but overthink all the challenges I have to overcome

>>545860962
Petition to make this the official anthem of /agdg/?

>>545862619
share the load

i have too many youtube videos to watch and forums to refresh, and games to want to play but not actually play, to make a game, im a busy man

looks like I'm going to end up with about 70 reviews. it's ok... I should be grateful. but... slop gets so much more! Waaaaaaaah

>>545862680
I don't want to be an idea guy parasite though, even if i work with other people I need to learn how to do something.
also I would like to sell these games at some point which seems like it would complicate working with an unpaid team (and I'm not a richfag so I can't pay anyone).

>>545856029
Omori beat your shitty game

>>545862938
>looks like I'm going to end up with about 70 reviews
You're gonna end up with 0.

>>545862680
open your mouth

>>545863134
thats just because it has twinks
seriously though that doesn't refute my point, which is that RPG Maker can only make one genre of game with specific mechanics. If you don't mind spending time learning a new engine and language, or if you only ever plan on making turn-based RPGs, then I guess it makes sense to use it.

respect muh authoritah

number goes down?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8TMTiw1LZo

>>545863963
I need a moloch shrine and anime lolis 3d models

>>545858952
here's your loading screen

>>545864215
that's the game's ending.

>>545864293
>final gameplay is 2nd person view of the celly coming in to strangle you, while you try to flipflop around the cell to escape but your legs are jelly

why
Why
WHY
WHYY
WHYYYY IT DOESN"T WOOORK
WHAHAHAHWHWHHWHAHAAAAAAAA--
oh, that's why
teehee, fix'd :3

>>545856029
Even 20 years ago people made action games, racing games and strategies on rpg maker.
15 years ago, there was pixel fighting game on rpg maker
The fact that you think that engine(even if that's rpg maker) limits what genre you can make on it, just shows that you don't understand shit

I need $3000 so bad bros...... I have to move out from my alcoholic parent home

yesdevving?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKh-oN6vonk

>>545864942
gay4pay

>>545849302
>>545846686
>>545845245
post game

>>545854378
Use the well known engines. They properly pack up the project and nobody will be able to shit.

Not sure if this is the best place to ask. I'm an artist looking for a programmer to work with on a concept I have planned out. What would be a reasonable rate to offer and where should I go to recruit them?

>>545863239
impossible. I have 100k wishlists in my head.

>>545862938
maligndev?

>>545865254
to do shit**
Kek

>>545865585
programmers are more expensive than artists, they are also faggots, just use AI

>>545866279
kys artnigger, you are the lazy fucks never doing anything

>>545865585
>>545866279
>>545866327
all fake

>>545866279
>programmers are more expensive than artists
...huh
No
Literally never were
Codders always were smallest part of budget for any game since forever.

Thoughts on this?

>>545866485
Bitch get on unity and make mario walk around in a sphere you retarded faggot

>>545866409
bait

>>545830074 (OP)
Is Dingo gone?
I still have the file of Slam Dingo.
Also how can I open up a Godot game so I can see its files and shit?

I used AI voice acting in my game. I don't understand why /agdg/ hates me so much for it when there's no voice actors here.

>>545866740
>>545866602
Have you made a single game as a part of a team who you pay money? 2d art and 3d models are literally insane money sink in any budget

>>545867029
I am a voice actress tho.

>>545867029
reddit told them how to think

I’m thinking about limiting my online only game to 15-30 minutes of playtime each day, so people without jobs can’t cheat by just grinding away all day.

Most people put their pants one leg st the time. This includes programmers. Not everyone is meant for greatness. Some people are meant to make s dashboard and glue apis for the pointy haired boss.
Im not expecting my car mechanic to make a custom vehicle i expect him to fix my car.

My gamedev company will be listed on a stock exchange within the next 10 years.

>>545867146
>

>>545867251
So what have you been playing all day?

>>545867171
which leg first though?

I’ve been playing Cooking Crabs all day, I’m not sure I want to release the demo without a limited playtime do people don’t spam the leaderboard. Maybe, I’ll make it so you can only submit one score a day.

>>545867592
Also, it’s funny. It’s impossible to beat my high score on the board because I changed the algorithm, but I’m not gonna delete the score.

>>545866659
qrd

>>545866485
I'm sub 100iq and very pro AI. in this general I'm AI's biggest cheerleader

>>545867783
Oh no yeah youre do high iq bros you can deduce hundreds years of progress without hitting the books.

>>545867737
I think a counter on the title screen showing how many crabs have been cooked by all players over the life of the game would be cool.

>>545867783
Checks out

If youre impressed by the opengl triangle youre low iq anyways. Youre a a basedboy with no pattern recognition.

>>545867741
I don’t vote, bro.

https://www.reddit.com/r/gamedev/comments/1os6bfm/i_made_a_low_effort_tiktok_about_my_game_and_it/

https://www.tiktok.com/@niktendog7/video/7570061474773749014

>>545867768
The qrd id knowing trigonometry. Something 99% of programmers dont understand.

>>545868105
>he doesn't realize this is why tiktok is massively popular. Every new user gets a small boost in the algorithm to convince them their content can go viral.

>>545868448
i can just use ai

Actually yes, I DO have a problem that the videogame equivalents of Blade Runner always flop. I DO have a problem that the only way to make any money is to make worthless throwaway games that are fun only for 15 minutes. I like and play long games that have actual value to them, like Deus Ex Mankind Divided, and that's the kind of games I want to make (or at least the low-budget indie equivalent of it)
But the industry and gamers don't value them. And yes, that DOES upset me.

>>545868607
Okay then make mario walk on a sphere

>>545868623
You like its slop and it keeps you from thinking about life.

>>545868768
>incomprehensible retard babble

You have to upload a picture of a made up bed to play my game. Obviously I can’t fully check that its your made up bed, but if you lie, you’ll be knowing that you were lying to me the whole time you were playing and I don’t want you to play my game until your beds made.

You have to prove your virginity status to play my romance VN

gamedev is so hard it makes me miss working as a janitor
i took the stable income and low stress work for granted

The cool thing about making your games free, is that if it is fun, you can be as mean as you want, and people will still want to play it.

>>545867737
#justbrownthings

>>545869165
So based. When I ban people from my free MMO, I make up fake chat server logs about the users and leak them around the community.

>>545869356
Idiot the white people these days are the sons of jocks. There is nothing special about the white race. Theyve reverted to their colorful clown complexion novelty of the roman days.

>>545868105
>went viral for the "comedy" aspect and whackyness of the video
>thinks people are actually interested and would buy the game
many such cases

Do I have to install XINPUT1_3 DLL to play the latest Ctesiphon version?

Alright, I have 27 hours left to add a high score board, title screen, game over, possibly fix the animation when chaining YEET!s.

It's impossible to build a team together for a free game anymore. Like, people just don't want to come together to make cool stuff just for the sake of it. Even if you have proof you can lead a project to the finish line nobody still does anything.
I hate being a solo dev but it's the only thing that one can do today.

>>545869165
I don't want to be mean tho.

>>545869658
a similar phenomenon happens frequently on twitter too

>>545869951
People are going to walk all over you. Be mean to some people. You’re a good person, you’ll know who deserves it.

>>545868105
was his game portrait aspect? if not then this is impossible because landscape (normal) games can't fit into tiktok's portrait orientation.

>>545869882
https://store.steampowered.com/app/3454610/Poco/

>>545870219
The normal aspect ratio of games is and has always been square or near to it. Widescreens are new, board games are almost always square.

EVERY SCREEN CAN FIT A SQUARE! EVERYONE HAS A SCREEN IN THEIR POCKET WITH A BROWSER ON IT THAT CAN PLAY YOUR GAME! BUT YOU WANT TO LARP AS SQUARESOFT!

>>545870282
Was this made by a team? How does it relate to my point? I was talking about how many people don't want to team up anymore because they only value money, so even if you are upfront about making a free game they still won't do it. They'd rather do it solo and release flops than work together to make a good game.

>>545868105
hmmm maybe if I also buy a lottery ticked I will win the lottery?

>>545870537
it was made by a team

>>545870537
0 ad is s good game but its server rooms are empty you might ad well charge $5

>>545869160
>Janitor application acceptance emails are being sent out. Please remember to check your spam box!

>>545869160
I would unironically quit gamedev for a janitor job if I could get it.

>>545870537
I think it’s less about value and then the fact that most Americans are struggling to survive right now, and game dev is a skill that pays well, so if you can do it, and it doing it for free on the internet, theres probably something wrong with you.

>>545870758
>$0
i don't know why they do it

>>545870686
Sure, but that's just ONE game. It's an exception, not the rule, so I don't understand why you brought it up. My point is building a team is impossible, no matter what you do. The rare exceptions only further prove this.

>>545870875
>My point is building a team is impossible, no matter what you do
maybe

>>545870875
Just help me make epstein at the popcorn mine theres your team

>>545870875
>impossible
>exception to the rule
Are you seriously this retarded? Have you been snacking on lead paint or something?

https://swordsquid.itch.io/ocean-in-the-cold-sky

i haev don et. I made it. It's actually reached the point of being fun too. It often feels like you're going nowhere, but I found an old demo on a flash drive and was surprised how much it had improved. I think creation is just inherently painful, like that part of Hat World New Testament. Speaking of it's still really depressing how many amazing games are also free yet completely unknown.
>>545840397
Have little cards representing injuries float in the air next to your character and stack up with color-coded borders and markers on the side to represent injury level, with different scaling effects that can lead to game over.

>>545870537
>don't want to work for a year for free
>they only value money
goodlifer genocide when?

It’s not that nobody wants to team, up. It’s that nobody wants to team up with type of person who spends all day posting on a Mongolian basket weaving forum. I showed my ex-girlfriend my level editor, all the sudden she wanted be a game developer too.

>>545871012
shhh

>>545871012
>impossible
It's a rhetorical exaggeration, retard. Obviously it's not literally impossible but the amount of effort it takes to actually build and maintain a team to its release is retardedly insane because for some reason everybody things it's better to be a solo dev with a 0 review flop than to make a good game and build a reputation and a loyal fanbase.

>>545871182
You look like a dumb jock

>>545871038
It is, because if you’re doing it correctly, you are writing well documented large scope software projects. Adding assets to your Unity build isn’t game dev, its level editing.

A bunch a level editors and asset creators in this thread posting progress pictures and status updates for their Unity demos pretending that they are game developers.

i am willing to sacrifice each any everyone of you to achieve my dream
i would be honored if youd do the same to me.

>>545871521
It looks good man. It’s a buy from me. I liked the Nosferatsu video you posted the other day.

>>545871617
>>545871521
samefag

>>545871521
This isn't Hollywood, success in gamedev doesn't require ritual human sacrifice.

>>545871664
I’m sure he won’t mind testing Cooking Crabs and giggling for a whole a 2 minutes.

it's not worth it man

>>545871806
>>545871664
samefag

>>545871271
The mind likely experiences an explosive and incomprehensible sensory overload—a blinding white flash coupled with a deafening internal roar—that instantly shatters any capacity for coherent thought. This catastrophic moment is immediately followed by a complete and irreversible cessation of consciousness as the neural structures that create awareness are annihilated before pain or understanding can register.

It’s totally worth it, only 4 days of crunch time. I really like how the colors on the UI pop, and the steam animation I made ended up looking really cool. I’ll just reuse that stuff elsewhere.

your game doesn't need to be good
it just needs to be easy

why is vibecoding bad? the AIs are only going to get better at coding, why even bother learning programming when you can offload it easily? you only need to learn the engine and then whatever else you need for the game to be complete and polished

>>545872158
it's only as bad as the developer doing it

I just got a new high score, I was completely zoned out thinking about programming, completely unconscious action.

Name one reason (you) as a Demo Day participant, are not sending your game to /v/3 after it's done. You have all the shit ready already what's stopping you?
https://thev3expo.com/submit

>>545872158
>>545872215
>as bad as the developer doing it
Pretty much, you guys also underestimate the number of bad devs in game dev. They’ve been shipping slop code for 40 years.

>hire genius mathfags
>the game is still shit
Its shit
https://youtube.com/shorts/TlZEnRuWnWU?si=NcKHgHMO9Ei8o0Sj

I'm the funniest poster in this general. Peer reviewed and confirmed by international experts.

It’s simple, if you can’t imagine the complete program in your head, you can’t vibe code it. You need to learn how to read source code before you can vibe code. Hammer, nail gun.

>>545872310
That's for full games, and you need a trailer.

>>545872467
>posting shorts on 4chan
retard

>>545872403
>>545872467
the idea guy is king
always
a technically sound game with a boring concept will flop
a dogshit slopcode game with an appealing concept will succeed
ideas are everything

>>545872541
true

>>545871061
Looks depression-coded

you can't even get people to play your game for free, how are you going to get them to pay for it?

by making a better game

>>545871521
>he doesn't know I hired bots to boost basedland farts

>>545872706
Looks like programmer art. Thats what a lot of games look like before you ever see them.

>>545872830
a promise

the anti AI posters are not even gamedevving, just here to crab and make you worse at devving, AI is a tool same as a game engine, fuck all of you anti AI posters, post your game in your reply to me or fuck yourself

>>545873014
that's obviously not programmer art.
programmer art doesn't mean just bad art, it means simplest possible art to test gameplay

>>545873108
>you must doxx yourself if you disagree with me

>>545873316
>doxx
>game

What I really need to be working on are some simple 2D layout tools to export to JSON, to quickly move things around rather than asking the AI where the fuck it hid the entity initializations.

I tried to use cos() to programatically animate my prototype character and it made him run like an F-word...

>>545873202
You’re autistic, aren’t y

I guess that's it then.

what's your fantasy game if you could complete it?

>>545873414
just use tilED, moron

i have completed less than a dozen singleplayer games in my life

>>545873472
>he’s just a happy little dude.
>Put a smile on his face you have a winner.

>>545873370
yeah? I post about my game on social media. there's also my name and face and family and friends there.

>>545873537
>doesn't know what programmer art is
>seethes instead of learning
you will never make a successful game.

>>545873653
ok i understand, 4channers are still sadistic

>>545873564
No. It’s overly complex for quick things that aren’t grid based.

>>545873776
Okay, witch. Nice curse. Are you done?

>>545872939
n.. no.. it cant be

>>545873914
you have cursed yourself with your fragile ego.

>>545874068
I don’t really care that you have a narrow definition of the word programmer art. It does not greatly affect me.

>>545872310
I need a trailer v3man, and the requirements are insane!

What is programmer art in German? Artichprogrammenkomputat?

i am beginning to learn that the average indie dev productivity session is just spending the majority of their day tweaking visual assets

>>545874267
Those aren’t devs, those are asset creators. Devs put on their diapers and get it done.

you do know you need to work on your actual game right
not just the art
right?

Lately, I've been watching mansion tours as motivation

third person or top down

Like i need tinder i can just go to the club and spear fish my bitch nigger hacker

what is the pharmacodynamics are of your game?

You fucking streamers need to learn to archive the VODs so we can watch and you should also tell us wtf you gonna play.
PrettySober is the only fag in these threads who used know how to stream demo day even though he was a massive gay fag.

>>545872706
If it gives off any vibe at all that's an improvement. I do really like the feeling of freedom that comes with hopelessness, the vibe in games like FEAR or Drakengard Demon's Souls.
>>545873014
Some of it is unfinished, but in all the psuedo-1080p pixel art is really hard to market with since it gets crushed to death by any filtering or resizing. Like this guy whose colors wash out. I see myself as an artistic bottleneck half the time and try to go around it, but the other half of the time I'm trying to get the tendons of the knee right and I know noone's looking.

>>545874398
Notch, now thats a dev who doesn’t mind leaving his dev diapers out in public.

>>545874616
>psuedo-1080p pixel art is really hard to market
Yup, if it’s a good game though and if the dev can isn’t too committed to let someone else to graphics, it could be worth something.

>>545874398
why even have a mansion if you're not filling it with whores? just live in a comfy one bedroom with your security guys on the same floor.

i feel lazy for not working for longer periods but doing so destroys my productivity due to the fatigue accumulation and i accomplish my best work with just a few highly concentrated hours of work per day
i guess the down time is what causes this feeling
gotta stay busy, 24/7

>>545874616
Marge?

I’ve contracted some former Blackwater security friends to handle all my security needs when I make it big. You better move out of the way of my indie game convoy when we drive through your town.

>>545874195
How insane? All we ask is that the trailer be at least 30 seconds and have the title in there. Hell, we even said we'll squish it to 4:3 for you.

>>545875134
Bitch lll walk around with a goldchain whats timmy going to do?

>>545874435
ring door cam

>>545875252
Timmy put 180 rounds of 5.56 into a vehicle filled with American Citizen contractors in Iraq and got away with it.

>>545875225
You will squish it...?

>>545874524
Brimstone was making separate vids for streams on twitch, branno did the same, uploaded some of separate vids on youtube with proper caption and DD version. Is there anybody else?

>>545874472
it's like crack for seekers of the specific fantasy I give them access to

>>545875323
you can't make a roguelike ring door cam perspective game

Ill hack the club ill show you

>>545875572
Trick or treating, the monsters come to you. You’re retarded.

Look, it’s just me and the Iranian Aerospace engineer testing Cooking Crabs! With /AGDG/ right now, and all you hackers can just fuck off.

>>545875572
I can
>>545875696
yeah, not bad. or swat, robbers etc.

>>545875817
*and helicopter helmet cats

>>545830074 (OP)
nortubel 2 when?

Stream in 90 minutes
Will stream:
1: Ash the Cat - https://itch.io/jam/agdg-demo-day-65/rate/2345838
2: Kludge: Non-compliant Appliance - https://itch.io/jam/agdg-demo-day-65/rate/3085094
3: FISH - https://itch.io/jam/agdg-demo-day-65/rate/3791390
4: Void Crawlers - https://itch.io/jam/agdg-demo-day-65/rate/3861801
5: WIP - korttiPrototyyppi - https://itch.io/jam/agdg-demo-day-65/rate/4021273
6: TRPGv3 - https://itch.io/jam/agdg-demo-day-65/rate/4021464
7: UNDYING: Kowloon in Red - https://itch.io/jam/agdg-demo-day-65/rate/3580978
8: Dead God's Descent Prototype - https://itch.io/jam/agdg-demo-day-65/rate/4017094
9: PaperPlaneMakeover-:::mental_breakdown_update:::(alpha0.1) - https://itch.io/jam/agdg-demo-day-65/rate/3693098
10: Queue Queen - https://itch.io/jam/agdg-demo-day-65/rate/4021414
11: Leap Galaxy (demo) - https://itch.io/jam/agdg-demo-day-65/rate/3222073
12: Dark Grace - https://itch.io/jam/agdg-demo-day-65/rate/3262646
13: blockout of demo heavily inspired by spyro: part 2 v0.5 - https://itch.io/jam/agdg-demo-day-65/rate/4021165
14: Cubism - https://itch.io/jam/agdg-demo-day-65/rate/3986089
15: Office Sirens Hard at Work - https://itch.io/jam/agdg-demo-day-65/rate/2753376

Play order will be randomized, unless the dev pops in the chat.
https://www.twitch.tv/brimstonewalker

My high score is programmatically impossible, so I’ll know anyone who beats it is cheating.

>>545874257
They call it spielensoulen, and they call proper art soullesstrashenspielenartlich

I still have a full 24 hours. That’s like 4 days if I’m programming.

quality over quantity
always
always
always

>>545876164
Quantity has a quality of its own

>>545876135
2 hours of sleep, 4 hours of work in a cycle, and you get much as work done in a full 40 hour work week.

>makes mobile game as a marketing tool for Fallout 4
>finances it from marketing budget
>game earns over $100M
Even big studios have no idea what will take off. They're guessing just like the rest of us.

efficient software system design is difficult
very difficult

Oh you guys eat while you’re making games? That’s why your NGMI.

>>545875975
My game is in the list, thanks.

>I’m gonna full on Christian Bale in the Machinist, then put a picture of myself on the title of my game
>If you don’t buy this game, I will starve to death

>>545876526
When you buy an in game boost with real money, theres a machine that dispense me food.

>>545876659
This is the coolest dev studio I have ever worked at.

>>545875414
MARGE

>>545876659
And theres a feature request feature in game, where you can instant message me with change requests and I’ll send you a new custom build.

>>545876960
That’s called the “Let’s see what you have to say when I have your IP and home address feature”

>>545877092
I’m going to offer computer defense and security products and analytics to indie devs, including information on known trolls and stalkers purchased from data brokers.

>>545877246
The security tools I offer to devs are ONLY FOR DEFENSIVE PURPOSES though.

>>545877351
is this your game?

I’m going to buy discords conversation history from Microsoft and tell them its for AI training purposes. Business to business transactions are fun, I was the reason nobody could buy the Raspberry PI for almost 2 years.

>>545876391
Important difference is that they got more money to guess.

Peep this number. What does this number represent?
Times up, it represents the number of sales since my last review.

>>545875975
Removed TRPG from the list cuz it's android-only (sorry man, I didn't notice it at first)
Added Ocean in Cold Sky to the list
>>545876485
Np man I hope you are not the TRPGdev

>>545877547
That was crunch time. 6 months of making sure the code was completely bug free, because in order update each Raspberry Pi it would cost us $200 dollars in technician time x 8000. So a having a single bug would have cost me $160,000. Ran for 4 years 24/7 in every Best Buy and Target.

>>545871061
>>545875975
Please consider playing mine at some point, if not in this life then the next. I promise you the joy of a fish flopping on the deck, trying desperately to return to a world that makes fundamental sense.

>>545875975
Will be there to see you play Ash for sure. Would appreciate it to happen sooner rather than later as I'm in an European time zone.

>>545878034
>>545877953
Will do

Do you know any indie x-com-likes?

>>545878235
into the breach + tactical breach wizards

>>545875975
do you also stream multiplayer games? thinking of submitting my game. It has bots but i havent worked on the bot ai so its pretty dumb

>>545877990
I made this display. Custom arch Linux distro, microcontroller, C and Python tying everything together. I even got to help with the physical design and manufacturing. The hardest thing for me to not do in my life, was leak the Sklyanders encryption keys so all the kids could play their toys however they liked. That shit was predatory.

>>545878235
Xenonauts and Xenonauts 2.

>>545878342
How did Into the Breach survive not only the tactics game curse, but the mech game curse? Or do these curses only apply to agdg games?

>>545878218
Sure thing, will either do it as a second game or if/when you pop in the chat.
>>545878407
It depends on if it'll run for me. I haven't had any luck playing games that require steam api to run multiplayer (Shadow Stalker was one of those games), but I've played Maid Cafe Coop online and it was fine.

>>545878631
actually releasing puts it above 95% of daggy mech games

>>545878460
I did however leave the key in a plain text python script, and one called it out. So if someone wants to buy the newer version of that display with the crystal traps, you can completely hack any skylander toy with those displays.

>>545878235
Invisible Inc.

>>545879083
Damn, I don’t see any of those ones on eBay. They probably did a good job of recovering them since the mini-pcs were still worth something.

>>545876202
https://store.steampowered.com/developer/Laush_Studio

maybe his 153rd game will blow up

A horror game where you are being stalked by JD Vance.

>>545879330
>scroll through
>80% of the games have exactly 15 reviews

Hey gabe, I gave you 100 dollars to fucking make sure the store works, when thousands of vote botted games are clogging the store, it doesn't work. The contract we signed is being broken, and I'm sure the courts will be happy to have you again. :-)

>>545879484
1.4 million in 8 years. His kids are set for life if he’s smart, which guessing by his release schedule, he is.

>>545879693
i doubt that's an accurate number
but if he lives in a cheap eastern european country then he's probably still fine

>>545879757
He might be getting paid by someone on the front end to be shoveling all that slop too.

>dev spams shovelware on steam
>all of his top performing games were released before the 2019 algorithm change
march 2019 was before the change
interesting

I’d totally be some rich autistic investors dev slave cranking out their retarded demands for custom games.

this guy actually buys and gives indie games with very low review counts a fair chance and reviews every one he buys. imagine if all steamies were like him. we wouldn't have such a problem of games with less than 50 or 10 reviews never getting a proper chance. it's not even that hard to leave a steam review. yet steamies don't do it, that's how subhumanized they are.

>>545879484
The reviews are either botted, or from people who buy shit just to review it and get the number on their page higher. Either way, the review ratio is probably 1/4 as much as the site thinks it is.

>>545879757
Ubisoft has a MEDIAN revenue of two million dollars per game? I thought it was all luck? Surely their advertising strategies aren't reliable enough to ensure such a high standard?

The fun part is making them, I don’t really play them much or care if they are popular.

>>545880114
the issue isn't a lack of reviews, it's the revenue requirement for algorithmic promotion being too high

>>545880252
What game are you doing research for?

>>545879982
>quality control? nah let's just fuck over all devs!
Why is fatfuck gabencunt like this?

>>545880252
>the issue isn't a lack of reviews
steamies won't buy games if they don't have a specific amount of reviews either. this is completely independent of the algorithm but still an issue.

JOEY
FYGOON
thats it, thats the xeet

>>545879982
>2019 algorithm change
algorithm changes every week. there was no big change in 2019.

I argued with the AI that I was clicking correctly in the bonus zone, and there was something wrong, and it told me I just sucked and added a highlight feature so I could see it more clearly after looking at the logs.

>>545880542
I’m dev crabbing my own AI. In a game about dev crabbing.

>>545880686
from this graph could you not find the ~35th percentile of games by initial revenue to discover the breakpoint of how much revenue your game needs to make to trigger the algorithm?

>>545880130
>just have Ubisoft's marketing budget and you won't depend on luck, bro

>>545880686
now show the same metric from 2017 to to 2018, from 2016 to 2017, from 2019 to 2020, from 2020 to 2021 and so on. there's always variation because the algorithms change all the time.

>>545880993
not on steam

>>545881043
proofs?

>>545880993
Unless you know the algorithm, and have compiled a bunch of evidence. It’s pretty useless speculating about it a on Mongolian image board game dev thread.

$10,000 is the breakpoint value

generate at least $10,000 in total revenue within the first two weeks of release and your game will be successful

>>545881118
exactly, so no one should be sharing that unsourced graph that shows change year over year as if it's meaningful.

>>545881118
>>545881395
it's $10,000 in two weeks bros

I'm a steamie, make that slop!
Publish button, let it drop!
Patch notes longer than my rap,
Who needs pride when there's a money cap?

>>545881342
>be successful in the first two weeks and your game will be successful

>>545881342
>if your game is a success
>it will be success! Guaranteed!
Any other wise advise from you, oh sage of game dev?

https://x.com/DevGAMM/status/1986867253225386371

vile tranny eric schizo wont like this

>>545881523
makes sense to me

Well im kind of high eh ngl… carry on

>>545881523
>>545881530
You jest, but that's literally how it works, Anon. You got a problem with that? Take it up with fatfuck gabencunt.

>>545881530
>>545881523
$10,000 total revenue wouldn't be successful if it was the total amount you generated
but on steam, $10,000 in two weeks is required to trigger promotion, leading to further success

>>545868105
people still using places like reddit to shill their games are borderline retarded

tiktok, facebook, instagram these places are insanely high potential for advertising lol but but millennials hardly use tiktok for some reason

>>545881530
>Successful games succeed
This is what analysisfags come up with after having pseud debates here daily for years.
Then someone drops an autism nvke by asking
>What defined success?
And we get another two months of existentialism until the cycle finishes with an explosive visit from the gorespammer.

>>545881632
That’s because you’re dumb, and you think words actually mean things as long as they form a complete sentence.

TOO MUCH COPE!!!
WAY!!! TOO MUCH COPE!!!

All the ones that have made it, made at least one game.

They didnt let me in the club yikes. Well im an oldfag whatever.

>>545881748
I'm thinking of making a tiktok about my game when it goes on sale acting as I am a random user who found it and post some bait with it, but idk if it's a good idea.

>>545881949
That’s true bro, if you look at the statistics, EVERY SINGLE TIME. I think it’s a conspiracy.

>>545881801
I don't get this one.

would you find it in yourself to masturbate to something like this

I still haven’t beat 15960.

If ypure reading this and youre austistic. Go smoke a joint. Its s joint. Do it faggeeet kek.

>>545881686
>>545881709
so I just spend $5k to buy my game by paying $10k and getting $5k back and that's the key to success?

>>545882345
It is when you convince the people who buy your next game that your last one sold 2000 copies.

>>545882302
I'm 33 years old I've never been offered a joint by anybody and I wouldn't know where to get one. only normies get offered drugs.

>>545882345
Within the first two weeks of its release, yes.

>>545882015
Forgot your bocchi avatar.

>>545882345
People will see a shitty game that sold like 2000 copies, and be like, fuck people payed money for that? The new one looks 20 times better, it must be really good.

>>545882469
Just buy it from the shop.Didnt amerikek made weed legal?

>>545878692
i submitted the game ski royale, if you do play it and people cant connect to you its probably due to needed port forwarding

>>545882569
Quite the opposite. Marijuana is still a federally controlled substance. Trump could arrest most of the state governments for trafficking and taxing drug money if he wanted to go hard.

>>545882569
In Japan you get actual prison time for weed even for first offense.

>>545882714
>>545882769
Theres somewhere geographically where you can smoke weed. Shit idk seattle? Las vegas? Lol

>>545882714
It is still illegal in the United States for banks to work with medical an recreational cannabis companies.

Going live!
https://www.twitch.tv/brimstonewalker

>>545882616
Added to the list

>545882906
>545882863
>545882769
>545882714
>545882569
>545882469
>545882302
samefag offtopic spammer

>>545882863
Jamaica, mon.

>>545882863
Only terrorists smoke weed. I support ICE.

How do I stop giving up

>>545882439
>doesn't know how herd psychology works

Psychos cant create art :p

>>545883371
I was being serious. I know how it works, ooooo shiny!

>>545883673
this but ai instead of head

>>545883673
it really do be like that

You all suck the fun out of anonymously posting on the internet, advertise your sloppily programmed work, then get mad when anonymous won’t play your game.

>>545883873
I'm just crying man I haven't even posted my game
I'm sighing and crying because no one loves me and life is pointless

>jblow loves elon/trump
>twitch name naysayer88

>>545883740
You still have to tell the AI where the plumbing and wiring goes and know how to use a hammer.

>this this and that
Youre the one fretting over money sonny boy

>>545883995
>I'm sighing and crying because no one loves me and life is pointless
love is a psyop anyway. it was created by some marketing department in the 1950s. it's a carrot dangled in front of us to keep us going and producing.

>>545884052
wrong. I just tell AI make a pong game and it does and it's better than 95% of this general could make.

The reason I am able to make progress fast isn’t AI, its that modern computers are so fast I can compile 10,000 lines of C in 2 seconds to web assembly, alt tab to the browser, and change how my protype feels and plays every 15 seconds.

>>545884457
not that anon but you are both in agreement lol, why the fighting, 4chan.

>>545875975
You should try out my game too. It's much more substantial now than it was two years ago:
https://itch.io/jam/agdg-demo-day-65/rate/2345141

Sorry I didn't post as much in the last few days. I've been lurking in /int/ and playing vidya.

>>545884457
You have almost 24 hours to submit. See if you can beat this. I vibe coded it in C in about 12 hours.

Fuck hitler got good reviews in steam. That was 2022 though but meme wave is still valid.

AI just put a skull emoji in my code after a comment // :skull:

>>545884676
I missed you, Pomaodev.

>>545884808
you should add in the reddit crab from v3

Why did some literal who just post his weird 3D deviantart thing? Do we need a password for this shit now, so many fucking leeches uploading.

>>545856339
>Python is great for doing math
it really isn't
C++ is still the best at scientific computing. And even then many mathematicians and will prefer programming languages that are faithful to mathematics like APL, Julia, mathematica, maple, etc., assuming performance isn't their priority (otherwise C++ is still kang). And engineers will use MATLAB.
Python is fucking garbage, no sure where you heard mathematicians love python. Completely propaganda. Python is used by indian AI """researchers""" or data """scientists"""

>>545868623
A game like this is almost guaranteed to succeed if done right, there is literally no competition

>>545884823
Oh yeah, I need to add something to the pre processing prompts in Copilot. Every single fucking markup file gets filled emojis.

>>545884996
Based whiteleks protesting skynet. Anyways.

>>545885041
Games don't succeed if they're done right. They succeed if they're properly promoted to the correct audience and said audience is convinced that the game is good regardless of its qualities.

>>545885080
I told it document Cooking Crabs, and it put little crab emojis in my code documentation. I got crabs in my code about my gam

>stayed up all night fixing obscure netcode bugs
>see random on tiktok go viral for unfinished mobile slop he did literally in a day
why work hard in slopera why live lol

>>545885174
I got genshin impact advertised on my way to 711 well duh but you dont have that kind of budget

>>545885174
Name a game that is actually good and flopped

>>545885387
Perhaps he had 20 years of learning behind that one piece of slop he did in a day.

the numbers
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3569474876

>>545885524
he said he's just been learning godot for a week lol

>>545885557
Have you thought about taking the code and porting it to another engine legally license for sale with a reskin?

>>545885514
This question kills the crab every single time

>>545884592
KWAB

>>545835741
> babes in the godot community!
debug error: sex conversion is invalid. Please leave the children alone.

>>545885653
So. If I make my next project in Godot, I will have learning Godot for a week. I’ve still been writing in C for 20 years. You have no idea what that person has been actually doing before you became aware of them.

>>545885685
yes but i want it to be perfect first, i made the mod for myself because all the other mods were total trash shit

>>545885838
Oh no yeah been coding since forever :/

>>545885514
Concord

>>545885514
Prey
Deus Ex Mankind Divided
Blur
Blood

>>545885514
>>545885709
m-a-r-m-o-r-e-a-l
The game made by the bocchi poster who posts about his goon sessions every thread.

>>545885557
joshua FVARKING WON

>>545885960
I’ve heard of all those. They didn’t flop.

DEY STEAL THE CRIS STYLE
THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE NIGGA

I’m 40 years old, if your game isn’t Hollow Knight or a rip off of Harvest Moon, you might as well give up, because I’ve never heard of your flop.

That little shit Toby tried to play games with me, I just pulled out the hex editor. His game sucks too.

>>545886107
mandkind dividid flopped so hard the franchise dieded.

>>545886242
based unc

>>54588583
shut up dude this is what his game looks like actually he doesn't have any coding experience. good for him but making effort in slopera is stupid

>>545886208
What is this game?

>>545886406
There is a difference between being milked and flopping.

>>545885838
this is literally what his game looks like dude he said he has no gamedev experience. if you're making effort in slopera you lost

>>545886517
it was only the 4th game in 16 years of the franchise.

>>545885514
roody 2d
banquet for fools

>>545886726
Yeah, and only the first one was any good.

>>545886826
proof that the other games weren't good?
no proof. you've been proven wrong.

>>545886483
https://store.steampowered.com/app/3372060/Hell_Maiden/

cris's secret project while he shitposts in /agdg/
also cris is secretly nortubel, as a joke

>>545875957
>nortubel 2 when?
Not for a while because after Hirdrih, I want to give Bonka her own game.

>>545886726
They should have tried making the first one again but better, like how Bioshock was better than System Shock, instead they made it worse until nobody wanted to play it anymore.

>>545886208
did the east asian who procured this game think homer and dante are at all related outside of being poets

>>545884052
Not true anymore grandpa, just use gpt-codex-5 on high thinking and you can shit any game you want (programming wise ofc)

>>545886826
the others were good enough to keep the franchise afloat. the first did the heavy lifting sure. HR was excellent.

But we all know why they killed Deus Ex
>Hey guys, they’re gonna start a pandemic and sell the cure! Tell all your friends!

>>545887059
What pandemic…

>>545886968
I’m using copilot pro, it’s like having 2-3 junior engineers for $200 a month. You guys are cooked. Just put the fries bag, okay?

>>545886107
>I’ve heard of all those.
I'm 100% certain you didn't know what Blur is before I mentioned it.
>They didn’t flop.
So by your definition of a flop, any game that is "well known" is good? I suppose FIFA games are the best games in the world then.

>>545887116
play blue protocol and you will get it

>>545886930
MD was good, the flaws(unfinished feeling ending) would have been forgiven if the atmosphere around the game was different. but nope, the publisher forced them to do the AUGMENT YOUR PREORDER shit and put microtransactions into a single player game and destroyed the good will of the buyers.

>>545886373
It's a not so good and benign game if the monsters in reality represent pedophiles, and the player is conditioned to accept them.

>>545886957
its a bunch of portugese women and one bald faggot weeb

>>545887217
Is that what it’s supposed to be? I was high as shit killing everything, I couldn’t have spent more than 2 hours on it.

>>545887213
Anon, you're talking to a retard who doesn't actually play games and judges them purely based on their financial performance or some other arbitrary metric that makes no sense. There's no point in arguing with him.
Almost any actual human being will tell you that Deus Ex Mankind Divided is a flop and it's a good game that deserved better.

>>545886957
yeah like wtf, and homer and dante weren't even anime girls either. 0/10 not realistic

>>545887442
it's some weird Clerks-Simpsons crossover

>>545887413
>except everyone who grew up in the 90s and actually liked what Deus Ex was about

>>545887524
You can go back to /v/ with your retarded bait now.

Im not trying to make pedophiles likeable ff

>>545887524
They literally took every schizo conspiracy story from the 80s and 90s off the internet and turned it into a game. It was great.

>>545887524
>except everyone who grew up in the 90s and actually liked what Deus Ex was about
when I played it in the 90s I just liked cyborgs.

>>545887413
>and it's a good game that deserved better.
Pacing was terrible and didn't made any sense right after second half hit
Dubai at the start was worst moment in franchise history

>>545885729
A bitch move is making a new thread after one was already made because your thread enemy made it then spamming illegal trash so the other thread gets purged.

>>545887674
You’re only allowed to do that once before the big noses in accounting get ahold of your game franchise.

>>545887771
>and didn't made
Good morning saar

>>545887893
Suck my big brown cock, dude

how to fix?

I’m sure the new Deus Ex games are competently made, but are lacking what made Deus Ex great, because the first one was made independently without any large outside corporate influence, then published.

>>545888060
Says right there to use another engine :p

>>545888069
human rev was good minus the ending, the sequel was cut in half because of [thing i forgot] but had potential

>>545888069
It was a small core team with a vision that they only compromised on due to technical and budget limitations.

Imsims were never great. You just used to be more retarded.

>>545888069
Mankind divided was like 60% finished when it launched.

>>545888278
Whats imsims

>>545888245
We don't get these anymore because of capitalism, back then you could make a cool game and expect some money since competition was low, but now you need to min-max your friendslop/vampsurv/meme game or you have no chance.

>>545888278
they had lots of.. verbs

>>545886910
what is it with portuguese and yuri?

>>545886742
These do look pretty good, I wonder if they did any marketing or got buried by a bigger release

>>545888374
he meant the sims

>>545886919
what the fuck is this?